Three things I learnt on this trip to Pattaya (22 - 30 Aug)
Now I am no newbie to the mongering scene in Pattaya, but every trip brings a new learning. This one was no different. I want to share my top 3 learnings with my fellow hobbyists.
[B]Learning 1 If you are booking a condo unit for your stay, make sure you know the owner and you have personally checked out the unit in a previous trip[/B]
I booked an 8 day stay at City Garden Pattaya Condo through AirBnb. The pics looked good on the website and the reviews were positive. The person managing the booking was also very responsive and pleasant. They also offered a very relaxed cancellation policy. So I took it. When I arrived the manager welcomed me, showed me the unit and walked me through all the formalities. Frankly, I was far from impressed at the unit. It was shabbily maintained. The aircon in the bedroom was not working properly, there was dust all over the furniture, quite a few lights not working, creaky handles and knobs, a basin that was not scrubbed for weeks and a leaky water jet in the WC. The living room was sparsely furnished, a lumpy sofa with a rug thrown over it. A TV whose remote would not work. Just 2 pillows on the bed and a very thin mattress and an old duvet with a cover that had seen better days.
I decided I cannot let such poor accommodations ruin my trip, so I went online and found a good deal with LK Residence on Soi Diana. Called them, made my inquiries about the facilities and amenities and then booked it online. It was a snap. I cancelled the rest of my stay at City Garden and got a refund for 7 days. Well, at least the cancellation policy came good.
I have written a report about my stay at LK Residence in the hotels thread for those who might be interested.
[B]Learning 2 The more the merrier[/B]
In my past trips I have either mongered alone or I have been with a close friend (who isn't on this forum). And it's been fun. This time I had the honour and pleasure of meeting a few BMs on ground. Fortunately we got along pretty well and had some really memorable times.
We went around to nearly all places of interest. Gentlemen Clubs all over town, Discos, Beer Bar Complexes, Soi 6, etc. We even caught up for drinks and dinner on a couple of occasions. I had a great time and I would look forward to catching up with these gentlemen again. You know who you are. Thank you for everything!
[B]Learning 3 There is something for everyone in this city at every possible price range. So dont complain. Find your segment and enjoy there. Live and let live. And this is the meaty part of the FR[/B]
Needless to say Beach Road offers the best VFM for budget mongers. Prices can vary from 500 to 1000 for ST. Sometimes a desperate lady might even take 1000 for LT. YMMV. This is a segment I strictly avoid. I have my reasons.
A lot of Freelancers have moved online and this is great VFM source as well. But I noticed on this visit that apps like WeChat and Badoo are full of ladyboys. However, I had good success with TF. Got 3ST's in my 8 days. MO is simple, Send interest and an introductory line asking for Line contact. Shift the conversation to Line and get the girl in your room in less than 2 hours. Paid each of them 1000 + 100/200 tip depending on quality of service. All 3 were in no hurry to leave and offered 2 shots over an extended 2 3 hour time period. I also got one on WS at 4. 30 am at a Pad Thai stall. I was leaving Insomnia after witnessing a sausage fest on one of the days and stopped for some grub. Saw this cutie at the stall and offered to buy her food for her. And we wound up in bed. I paid her 2500 though as she left by 1 pm the next day.
Next on the list for VFM for me will be Soi 6. Tons of girls here, some really cute ones too if you can snare them before other customers do. The place gets going later these days but you can drop by as early as 2 pm or 3 pm and cool off with a beer. You can even get a bottle of water if you please. I don't understand why no one has mentioned about the "no alcohol before 6 pm" rule being completely ignored. There is no compulsion to buy a lady drink. But it's a good idea to get the girl one drink, then you can inspect the goods before you decide to take her upstairs. Many of the girls here have significant body damage from excessive drinking, babies, etc. Almost everyone in the trade has tattoos these days. A small one is OK but ones that cover the entire arm, or back or leg can be quite repulsive. This is my taste. Yours might differ. Prices are the same as before 300 barfine + 1000 for the girl. I went out with 3 girls during my trip. All of them solid performers so I tipped them each 100. Tips are optional.
Newbie Tip: If you really like the girl and sense some chemistry do not hesitate to ask her for LT. With the change in operating hours here, a lot more girls on Soi 6 are open to LT.
The fourth spot for VFM goes to Gentlemen Clubs. Now there are several all over town. IMHO Heaven is the best of the lot, as drinks are cheap and you get free food for a bill over 300 baht. The girls are fun and the rooms are very good. They could change the damn sofa though in the main lounge area. I had one session here and it was just what the place says it is Heaven. Prices same as Soi 6. The Den has fantastic ambience, very comfortable interiors and a good pool table. But the ladies are quite rough and they charge more. Also, they do not have rooms onsite. Club Excite on the adjoining road can be a lot of fun too. The clubs on Soi Full Love Inn (Pirates, 007 and J Club) are a hit and miss as each of them have few girls and on a busy days you could find yourself nursing a drink alone. I had a total of 4 chicks from an assortment of these clubs. All of them very good in bed. Prices same as Soi 6. I also peeked into clubs like Velvet, Booze, Pacha, Kik and a few others. Entirely forgettable.
After this at number five comes the innumerable beer bar complexes all over town. My personal favourite is Simon Complex at the northern end of WS right opposite Annabelle. The girls are fun and much less hardened. 6 of my 8 nights I have picked LTs from here for 600 barfine and 2000 3000 for the girl. And only 1 turned out to be a dud, where I cut my losses and sent her away with 1500. I was also surprised to learn that some bars here have a differential barfine system 1000 before midnight 600 after. WTF.
The other Simon Complex at the South end of WS, just after Insomnia is completely dead. I will never go there again. On 5 of my 8 days I walked around to check it out. On each day at least 50% of the bars were shut. The other 50% had very scant attendance of only mature women. Ugghhh!
There is the beer garden just outside the start of WS on the North end where I spotted a couple of cuties. Likewise along Soi 7. Nothing on Soi 8. Nothing on Soi Made in Thailand. Drinking Street always holds promise but the one time I went there I had a girl in tow so I could not really assess the place. The music there really sucks though. Walked along Soi Buakhaow a couple of times but nothing caught my eye. Ducked in small lanes that had some bars, but to no avail. Checked out the small complex of bars on 2nd road near Soi 10, spotted just one cute girl who seemed totally engrossed in her phone. So this route can be very rewarding but it takes solid legwork and patience.
Some might argue that Discos like Insomnia and Lucifer offer the best picks and are great VFM. But the prospect of staying up till 4 am or 5 am to pick a drunk chick to bang is not my idea of fun or VFM. No judgement on those who do. More power to you. You have one monger less to compete with.
I did go to the discos on 5 nights out of 8 but each of those nights I already had a girl from Simon Complex in tow. So the time spent in the disco was just fun, no pressure of picking up anyone. But there are indeed some really hot chicks here and anyone who fancies the game should come here. IMHO for picking up chicks Lucifer is good between 1 am and 3 am while Insomnia really gets going after 3 am.
Next on the list of VFM options (now this is veering towards the steep side) are the semi-Gogo bars. These are bars like Papagayo, Shooters, Tim's Bar etc. They charge 1000 barfine and the girl can ask as much as 4000 LT. They usually settle for 3000. Perhaps some BMs can get them at lower prices, good on them for their bargaining skills. I went to Shooters but the place was packed and I left soon as I was feeling claustrophobic. I picked a girl from Lisa Bar near Korea Town up North on 2nd road. One of the best performers on this trip.
And finally worst VFM option are the Gogo Bars that Pattaya is so famous for. Now if you want to buy a couple of drinks, ogle at tons of naked girls, grope a really pretty chick and get a HJ (or even a BJ on a really slow night), all under 1000 baht then these places can be fun. I visited a good number of Gogo bars this time and had a lot of fun with the girls and bought them quite a few drinks.
There are differential barfines for ST and LT at some Gogo bars. Almost all of them have a time differential pricing that normalises after midnight. The quality of girls are clearly a notch or two above any other venue. Among these, Sensations on WS stands out as a jewel. On any given day at any given time you can walk in and rest assured to find at least 8 to 10 girls worth shagging. Bachelors on LK Metro was awesome fun too. Ninja usually has decent talent but the time I went they were quite sad. Paradise simply did not live up to the promise while Crystal, Office, and Champagne were lukewarm. I had crossed off Sugar Sugar, Destiny and Queen from my list after the last trip. On WS Fahrenheit, Ginza, are Baccara are worth peeping into. Also looked at Windmill, Electric Blue, Wildcats and Sugarbaby. I really wanted to look at Tantra and Runway, but could not find the motivation. I still think What's Up has the most gorgeous girls in all of Pattaya but the place is clearly out of my league. Someday I will have that 20 K baht to blow in one night and I will have a good time there. On that note maybe Sapphire too.
I did not bother looking at the massage shops along Soi Chaiyaphoom or Soi Honey or other random streets and corners. Neither did I visit the soapies. I simply do not fancy these places.
So in summary, I had another fabulous trip. Can't wait for the next one. Songkran 2018 here I come.