I think you went in with preconceived attitudes and noticed things that seemed to confirm these attitudes.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]I understand that most humans are driven to P4P scene by their lack of either companionship or satisfaction of sex fantasies. Or both.[/QUOTE]This statement is an over generalization. Some older men are drawn to the P4P scene because it's an easy way to have uncomplicated sex with a young woman. I'm in my early sixties and I still have opportunities to date and have sex with women ranging from my age to less than half my age. I have no desire to have sex with a woman older than forty; and the younger women I find are among the best looking in their age group; so naturally I'm inclined to gravitate towards them. Obviously, these are not young women looking for a guy their age to marry, at least not at this time. Some are drawn to older men because they are financially and socially secure; and they find men younger than forty dull and immature. They are tired of dating boys their age and are looking for a mature man with a wealth of experiences whom they can learn from and who has the means to give them a taste of the good life. The fact that older men have had more sexual experience with a wider range of women thus making them better lovers is also a factor. Some are gold diggers looking for a meal ticket. Rather than wine, dine and bed these women, and then sort out which category each falls into, it's simpler, easier and cheaper in the long run to just hook up with an SW. Also, by figuring out which women are sexually adventurous and cultivating their appetites, it's not too difficult find women who are not pros who enjoy acting out rather kinky fantasies. Personally, lack of companionship and the fulfillment of sexual fantasies have nothing to do with why I enjoy P4P.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]I went to many of the best-regarded soapies, go-goe bars and clubs in both cities. To my astonishment, most talent there did not surpass free options available to me in the West. The were barely ok, at best. And no – nothing is wrong with me, aside from high standards.[/QUOTE]Anyone who has spent any time on ISG should know that in these venues the best you're going to find are 7's and 8's, except the big MP's on Ratchada do occasionally have 9's and 10's in their model category. Often these are women who appear in lingerie, bikini and nude photo shoots. However, it's not likely the papasan would introduce you to one of these women.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Some even didn't want to go to my hotel, but preferred for quickie upstairs in the club. I can only immagine their attitudes towards less young and attractive![/QUOTE]You have a funny imagination. Generally SW prefer older men. High end escorts often state on their websites that they will not see men younger than 40, preferring men in their late forties and older. In general, SW don't like to have to deal with immature kids. As for your experiences, of course they just wanted a quickie upstairs. Time is money. The age of the John has nothing to do with it.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]The freebies from DIA were the most refreshing in my opinion (and not less good looking that P4P options). But, the scene overall left me unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Do you really think a highly desirable young woman anywhere in the world wants to have a short time dalliance with a guy from half way around the world? You will find either: women who have no good options and foolish hopes of finding a guy who will give them a better life; women who have given up that dream and now just want to hook up with a guy who will spend some money on them; or pros who market themselves on the internet.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Are there astonishingly beautiful ladies in Phils / Thailand – of course. But, similar to beauties anywhere, these beauties are not P4P and require long-term investment (I. E. Not for tourists).[/QUOTE]When I was spending a lot of time doing business in East Asia I was 'introduced' to 9's and 10's by Asian businessmen. You are correct tourists are not likely to meet these women, but plenty of Asian beauties are available. These ladies were most definitely P4P, and I was paying for them rather indirectly.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Post-mortem: Unless you are A) over 45, have months of time to spend (dating, spotting talent, G-clubs, follow ups, translating quantity into quality etc) , and / or B) you are extremely unattractive to Western ladies – consider for your sexual needs German FKKs (the most effective P4P option in the world in my opinion) or investing in your home options.[/QUOTE]Again age has nothing to do with it. I've met young men pursuing economic opportunities in Southeast Asia who have learned the language and social customs and are dating smart, beautiful young local women; and we all know there are older men living in Bangkok who are in relationships with younger women. Also, the man's physical appearance per se has nothing to do with it. I've known several unattractive men with very attractive wives and girlfriends. Some offered status and money; others were just great guys and an excellent partner. It's common knowledge that a man's physical appearance is not the most important quality women look for. And, one of the things I find endearing about SW is that some will provide an opportunity for men with physical disabilities and disfigurements to have an enjoyable sexual experience with an attractive young lady.
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1418626]Disclaimer – this is my personal opinion and does not represent a judgment or criticism of any of the esteemed members of this forum. &61514;[/QUOTE]Enjoyed your post. Glad you learned a few things on your trip. Keep traveling and keep an open mind. In another twenty years you may start getting a little bit intelligent. I laugh at myself when I think about how stupid I was when I was in my thirties and forties.
