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Marius I must thank you for the video.
Very intresting thing, specially since it's Al Jazeera... quite a curiosity indeed.
And you were say about "Why is the USA government ignoring this?"???
[QUOTE=Marius 67]I was there yesterday..All the refugees were still there..I even talked to some of them..and they said the Mexican Army went from house to house warning them to leave or else..Death!..No sh*t BOB..What do i have to do...film the people taking about the horrors going on.. The state Nuevo Leon is about enter this phase. We had scores of Mexicans fleeing Mexico into Starr county this month. Reports from the Media estimate that illegal crossing has jumped 500% the last few months. I don't know how to put in in words. For now stay away from Mexico, unless you are familiar with the area..!
Bob did you not see in the video I just posted of a man being interviewed stating "I'am terrified to go back to my town." Stop accusing me of exagerating stories. The reality is; It's actually worse than what I'am reporting here![/QUOTE]
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Great investigative work Monterreydude...Al Jazeera indeed!!!! HAHAHA, comon' Marius. How do we know you aren't in some rat hole in Beirut?
Let's see Marius, you are deathly afraid of being anywhere near the danger, yet we are expected to believe that you were right along with the refugees yesterday, talking to them, right in the thick of things, right there in the snake pit itself. You didn't hurry on your way so as to avoid further exposure to the potential danger you claim exists in the area, but instead you stopped to "interview" the refugees.
Uhmmmm, doesn't sound like you're that frightened to me Marius.
It's like I've been saying all along. There are those whose sole purpose is to hype and exaggerate the circumstances in Mexico, and for who knows what kind of personal gain.
Oh, and Marius, you forgot to add something about half of the refugees also being transvestites. :-)))))))))
[QUOTE=Monterreydude]Marius I must thank you for the video.
Very intresting thing, specially since it's Al Jazeera... quite a curiosity indeed.
And you were say about "Why is the USA government ignoring this?"???[/QUOTE]
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Violence in Monterrey
Is hype and bs mainly for the American Audience.
I will tell you this. I lived in Reynosa for the last year. And If you are American- yes. Stay out of Juarez and Reynosa.
I have traveled all over the world. And Monterrey is about as dangerous as any large city with what 4mill peps?
The most dangerous part about Monterrey is driving. These people drive like in Seoul or Egypt but actually a little worse.
If you want to come here and buy drugs and roll like a Rap star. Well then you may end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. But try doing that in MEmphis and see how fast you get in trouble.
My former profession is in military, intell and security. Monterrey is Safe. And its getting better.
Peace
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Heading to Monterrey
I'll be traveling to Monterrey in Dec. or Jan.
Can anyone recommend Girl friendly Hotels and the best places for a full service massage.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Nobu7]
If you want to come here and buy drugs and roll like a Rap star. Well then you may end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. But try doing that in MEmphis and see how fast you get in trouble.
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AHA! You've arrived to the crux of the argument.
The thing to understand about UnospongeBob and MonterryDude is that they are daytime, low profile mongers and are under silk sheets by 23:00, and have very fixed, relatively conservative itineraries while they are out and about (going to places where they are known). OF COURSE, any city can be made safe if you never take any risk and just repeat the same thing over & over. But you can also argue that it's dull & boring. How fun can it be?
Guys who are pushing the boundaries and are out exploring and high rolling into the wee hours, are going to have a totally different perspective.
Last month in an international city (not Monterrey) I bar-fined FIVE ladies at the same time and took them out to expensive night clubs, in somewhat high roller rock star fashion, center of attention everywhere we went, until the sun rose - no trouble whatsoever, and a spectacular night which will be pretty tough for me to ever forget.
Could I do the same thing nowadays in Monterrey? Let's not forget that there are tons of places where this is perfectly safe.
Or can Monterrey only be safe if you stick to the known paths, don't raise any eyebrows, and monger quickly and discretely?
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Excellent points...just as I have said many times...remain low key, and you will be perfectly safe in Monterrey. I advise mongers to plan your activities, think before you execute them, and watch your back at all times.
I used to stay out until 4-5am every night only a few years ago, sometimes taking two girls at a time, three girls a day, walking between the clubs until the wee hours, my head not hitting the pillow until 6am, etc...
I have, shall we say, slowed down a bit. But, 23:00pm??? Please Blourghas! :-)
But, you're right in this regard, Monterreydude and I have relatively similar routines, out only until maybe one-ish or two-ish in the "AM" at the most these days. We need our beauty sleep afterall... ;-)
I had begun to think, in the light of the deteriorating circumstances in Mexico, that my routine was becoming relatively careless, too predictable, pushing the boundaries, which I actually began to see as a potential security risk in and of itself.
So, I made a conscious decision several years ago to domesticate my activities, to frequent only familiar surroundings, etc...In doing so, my activities could easily be construed now as boring by some. And, at times, I do feel that my activities could use some rejuvenation.
But, about the time I am feeling bored, I also remember that my life is infinitely safer, especially in light of the circumstances in Mexico these days. And still, even as they are boring by International Standards, my activities, even as they are now, are significantly more exciting in Monterrey than back in the US.
[QUOTE=Blourghus]AHA! You've arrived to the crux of the argument.
The thing to understand about UnospongeBob and MonterryDude is that they are daytime, low profile mongers and are under silk sheets by 23:00, and have very fixed, relatively conservative itineraries while they are out and about (going to places where they are known). OF COURSE, any city can be made safe if you never take any risk and just repeat the same thing over & over. But you can also argue that it's dull & boring. How fun can it be?
Guys who are pushing the boundaries and are out exploring and high rolling into the wee hours, are going to have a totally different perspective.
Last month in an international city (not Monterrey) I bar-fined FIVE ladies at the same time and took them out to expensive night clubs, in somewhat high roller rock star fashion, center of attention everywhere we went, until the sun rose - no trouble whatsoever, and a spectacular night which will be pretty tough for me to ever forget.
Could I do the same thing nowadays in Monterrey? Let's not forget that there are tons of places where this is perfectly safe.
Or can Monterrey only be safe if you stick to the known paths, don't raise any eyebrows, and monger quickly and discretely?[/QUOTE]
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Right On!!!
MD
No one could have said it better.... The problem isn't as much the cartels & assorted assholes, it is the Americans that are using the drugs.
No demand, No supply. If americans stop using & buying drugs the cartel and their violence goes elsewhere.
What the American government needs to do is stamp out drug use in the USA.
END of STORY!
IMHO of course...
Chica Luv
[QUOTE=Monterreydude]You are over stating, over exagerating, even contradicting your own link.
Read the description: "The raging drug war in the US-Mexico border region has forced hundreds of residents to seek refuge in neighbouring towns."
No where in the video does it mention "was totally evacuated by the Mexican goverment two days ago", but it does say hundreds.
But sorry to tell you that there is another news article published on-line today saying this:
EL NORTE
Afirman que terminó éxodo en Ciudad Mier
En Ciudad Mier y Camargo, en Tamaulipas, se desarrolla un operativo de policías locales, federales y soldados
Whatever happened in Ciudad Mier is over and the people are going back. Plus the army has made camp in Mier.
And please pretty pretty please, please explain to me where do you want to go with this:
"Why is the USA government ignoring this?"
Please tell us WHAT must the US goverment DO????
Declare war on Mexico???
Invade Mexico???
How about a much simpler thing... curve the appetite for drugs in the US.
How's that for starters???
Naw!!! will never be done.[/QUOTE]
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CA Traveler...
Girl friendly hotels: Sheraton Ambassador or the Hamtpon Inn Galerias.
Depends if you are coming for mongering or work, need to know the general area where you'll be.
Full service massage as in a massage with a happy ending or just the sex???
Massage as in a real massage, that is going to be a little hard.
Ask your questions... will help you out
[QUOTE=CA Traveler II]I'll be traveling to Monterrey in Dec. or Jan.
Can anyone recommend Girl friendly Hotels and the best places for a full service massage.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Heading To Monterrey
i will be going to monterrey for work and a bit of mongering. usually i'll stay by the airport but i would like to stay closer to the action. looking for "massage" similar to when i am guadalajara, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or high class. so the "girl friendly" hotels would be nice if the general area of the massage parlors.
thanks
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a hotel in the general area of the mps is the sheraton ambassador in the hotel distric zone since there are no longer girl friendly hotels in the madero ave area.
but in the general in the sense the sheraton has every mp in a 5-10 minutes riding a taxi and once there, there are areas where you can find 4-10 mp's of all prices and quality in a 4 block radius.
that could be an option.
[quote=ca traveler ii]i will be going to monterrey for work and a bit of mongering. usually i'll stay by the airport but i would like to stay closer to the action. looking for "massage" similar to when i am guadalajara, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or high class. so the "girl friendly" hotels would be nice if the general area of the massage parlors.
thanks[/quote]
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Where and what
Long standing member here.
I've been to Monterey a few years ago and find myself heading back in a few days. I don't have time to do as much research as I'd like so I was hoping some fellow mongers could help me out.
Length. 2 days.
Hotel. Sheriton?
Chicas? I prefer salidas and value based girls. I'm not afraid to hit the lesser know places with the hope of finding girls with more of a non-pro attitude.
Favors? Vitamin V still OTC? Also what about pain meds like vicodin? Will a pharmacy have a doc on staff to write a script?
Thanks and feel free to Pm me.
Gracias
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[QUOTE=Blourghus] OF COURSE, any city can be made safe if you never take any risk and just repeat the same thing over & over. But you can also argue that it's dull & boring. How fun can it be?
Guys who are pushing the boundaries and are out exploring and high rolling into the wee hours, are going to have a totally different perspective.
Last month in an international city (not Monterrey) I bar-fined FIVE ladies at the same time and took them out to expensive night clubs, in somewhat high roller rock star fashion, center of attention everywhere we went, until the sun rose - no trouble whatsoever, and a spectacular night which will be pretty tough for me to ever forget.
Could I do the same thing nowadays in Monterrey?[/QUOTE]I believe that it is much safer to do that here than on Beale street in Memphis.
It is a safe City if you put it in terms of millions of people compared to the amount of violent acts committed. The ratio is negligible. Most people here love foreigners. And EVERYone here loves a good fiesta.
I get out and do a lot of stuff man. A lot of it alone too, at least till I meet more friends.
I dont think of Monterrey as dangerous at all really. But I guess I am more accustomed to being in danger. I don't know.
Good luck,
Nobu
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a lot of business guys are stuck out near the airport due to arrangements made by their travel departments or their corporate travel agents, often because they have corporate contracts with certain hotel chains, etc...many of which have located hotels out near the airport.
but, if you let them stick you out there, you'll literally be about 30-40 minutes from the action, depending on traffic. the sheraton ambassador, and now according to blourghas, possibly the crown plaza, both downtown, are much better options, and much closer to the action. they're just as secure, maybe more so. the taxi ride will cost you exactly 260 pesos to the sheraton ambassador (less than $26us).
if you can swing it, get your people to change your reservations to the sheraton ambassador first, if not the sheraton, then the hampton inn-gallerias, second, then the crown plaza, third. i recommend them in that order because blourghas has just recently reported having no problems at the crown plaza, but it has not been tried numerous times like the sheraton-ambassador, and the hampton inn, which have been tested more frequently with success by greater numbers of mongers over time.
tell your corporate travel department that with the dangers going on in mexico, you feel much safer in the downtown area. and, literally, that isn't too far off base. when you stay out near the airport, you're staying in a more remote area, an area closer to the outskirts of monterrey, in areas where there are much higher incidents of drug gang activity at night, and closer to where the bodies are buried, literally.
if your corporate travel department agrees to put you downtown, but they insist on putting you in one of the gringo hotel chains that isn't girl friendly after all, i would still rather be downtown rather than up around the airport. i would rather be staying in a gringo hotel chain downtown, and take a girl to one of the hourly hotels for fun, and return to my nice cushy hotel to sleep at night after having fun, than to be stuck out around the airport, wasting 40 minutes commuting back and forth. besides, just because our experience demonstrates that most of the other gringo hotel chains are not girl friendly, doesn't mean you can't catch a break, and slip the girls in with some luck. there are always exceptions, bribes, etc...
the premise that it is more dangerous out near the airport isn't necessarily true. that is, i am not particularly convinced that the criminal element isn't active in all parts of monterrey where it suites their purposes, their having complete mobility, and virtually running a muck inflicting their assaults on people without any particular statistical predictability. but, you can use that claim, that downtown hotels are more secure, to get your corporate travel department to buy into your demand that they locate you in a safer environment (ie: downtown/el centro monterrey).
usually, the gringos will buy that argument if you insist for your own safety's sake. with all the hype about mexico in the news media, you can use that hype to your advantage to demand they accommodate your wishes...because, after all, you "fear for your life," right?
should you fear for your life? nooooooo! but, all americans believe that traveling in mexico is akin to being in beirut these days, so why not use it to your advantage so you can be closer, logistically, to some tail. if you let them stick you way out near the airport, you'll find that you're at a huge logistical disadvantage...trust me. the only exception to that might be were you to call upon escorts only, and not plan to visit the mps, or take club girls on salida. the escort girls will come to the hotels near the airport without any fuss, and i believe in that instance, you'll encounter few obstacles with respect to logistics.
[quote=ca traveler ii]i will be going to monterrey for work and a bit of mongering. usually i'll stay by the airport but i would like to stay closer to the action. looking for "massage" similar to when i am guadalajara, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or high class. so the "girl friendly" hotels would be nice if the general area of the massage parlors.
thanks[/quote]
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Heading to Monterrey
Thanks for the information. Ok so if I choose the Sheraton or Crown Plaza, do you have any recommendations for MP's close by. I saw the map but there seems to be quite a few.
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"Hotel": Sheraton Ambassador a good option.
"I prefer salidas and value based girls.": The answer would be Infinito.
1000 (depending on the girl 1500 tops) plus 350 bar fine.
My question to you Mark: Would you like in-call escort services options???
All EDs medicines can still be bought over the counter.
Original and generic.
Vicodin in Monterrey has never been available without a script.
Nor are antibiotics available OTC anymore.
The pharmacy chain Farmacias del Ahorro have free medical consultation, but I just don't know if they will be party to write a script on certain medical pharmacuticals.
[QUOTE=Mark]Long standing member here.
I've been to Monterey a few years ago and find myself heading back in a few days. I don't have time to do as much research as I'd like so I was hoping some fellow mongers could help me out.
Length. 2 days.
Hotel. Sheriton?
Chicas? I prefer salidas and value based girls. I'm not afraid to hit the lesser know places with the hope of finding girls with more of a non-pro attitude.
Favors? Vitamin V still OTC? Also what about pain meds like vicodin? Will a pharmacy have a doc on staff to write a script?
Thanks and feel free to Pm me.
Gracias[/QUOTE]