Sosua Reports

OK, you guys are all correct! Nobody did anything wrong. Nobody got arrested. Nobody will get arrested for anything.

No probs! Everything is all cool! Just keep doing whatever you were doing!

It's all good! Nobody is going to do anything!

It's all just a stereotype! People are just making things up! Everybody is being good and acting nice!

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1694104]OldKool is 100% right on this. WTF. If there's been any problems with "bros" firing shots and engaging in all-out brawls then we would've read or heard about that! NONE!

How in the world can a Dominican policeman or a local businessman or land developer know I may or may not have a felony criminal record? What about a misdemeanor charge? Are they okay with that instead? Until someone breaks the law and gets arrested, how do they know? And again, we seldom, or almost never, hear about "bros" getting arrested. Otherwise why would this incident be news? We'd be accustomed to this shit by now.

There you are again. "Loud, obnoxious, physically aggressive. " Have you witnessed any of this in Sosua? "Used to a life of violence and guns". WTF does that even mean or are you just projecting the worst stereotype. Can you name one incident within the last year a "bro" was arrested for having a gun in Sosua? I highly doubt that a tourist, especially the weekend warrior type "bro", (in and out, no local connection, English only) can bring a gun into the DR. And WHY would a "bro" need a gun in Sosua? Is he dealing crack? He has to protect his turf, I mean his sand? In case his nemesis from the hood bumps into him on Pedro Clisante and it's high noon at the OK corral? Oh wait, he needs his gun to do a drive-by on Dr. Rosen in his rental Kia?

There are pictures of the actual raid, or the aftermath, here:

[URL]http://www.noticiassin.com/2015/03/apresan-a-16-norteamericanos-y-siete-dominicanos-por-trafico-de-personas-en-puerto-plata/[/URL]

Pretty sure it happened here (notice the pavers on the driveway and the similar architecture):

[URL]http://www.villasaguadulce.com/site/home.aspx[/URL]

So this looks like an upscale development. Could be that too many people were having too wild of a party, Or too many women coming in and out over a few days straight, and the neighbors complained. Pretty much the same should this happen in my neighborhood in the suburb with a homeowners association. Certainly not where "bros" were simply being "obnoxious", showing folks their criminal record "rap sheet" and shoving people outside of Rumbas. This has zero impact on a NY "bro" coming down to have fun on the strip, going to Classicos and whoring-while-black.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1693941]...http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/12/dominican-republic-police-question-16-from-us-7-dominicans-after-prostitution/
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Below is the article, just in case people are having problems with the link:

Dominican Republic police question 16 from US, 7 Dominicans after prostitution raid near Sosua.

Published March 12,2015.

Associated Press.

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic Police in the Dominican Republic say they questioned 16 USA Citizens following a raid on a home that authorities say was being used for prostitution.

The raid took place in Agua Clara near the beach town of Sosua on the country's north coast. A statement issued by local police on Thursday says seven Dominicans were also held for questioning after the raid the previous day.

Police say 29 prostitutes were found at the home and some were younger than 18.

Authorities have not identified any of the people who were detained and prosecutors decline comment because the case remains under investigation.

Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic, but anyone hiring a prostitute or running a brothel can face charges of sexual exploitation. Arrests, however, are rare.

I appreciate Haven123s input since I am always interested in crimes that occur in other countries, that involve Americans, whether it involves the death of Brent Lewis, the owner of Perla de Sosua; the death of a DC lawyer, who used to travel to Santo Domingo; or of an expat, who was killed by a Haitian women, several months ago, while the expat was living near Boca Chica. All this is good to know but I have found Sosua quite tame. I mean, when you have a group of guys all drinking and messing with women one would think the worst yet, for the most part, the mongers are quite well behaved. At most I've heard of complaints of mongers blasting music in the hotel area yet even with this things have calmed down. To tell you the truth I've seen more chicas act out than the mongers. I'd trust the tourists before I would ever trust the police. for the most part if one stays in the tourist areas it is quite safe. If one keeps away from the drugs and sex with minors one is even more safer. And don't get too drunk and you will not be a target for pickpockets and other crime. Stuff that people on this board, with any experience, should know.

Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.

[QUOTE=Revere;1694058]I am still trying to find out more but the USA Embassy was involved so this was a planned sting. The USA Embassy is not going to just show up in Sousa for nothing. This should let everyone know check identification. i am just trying to be helpful with updates so people can make good decisions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1694143]Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.[/QUOTE]I believe that having a felony conviction does not automatically disqualify you for obtaining a USA Passport. I did some homework. This is what I found:

Convicted felons may apply for a passport but acceptance is subject to compulsory or discretionary denial based on certain disqualifications. United States federal law automatically disqualifies anyone convicted of international drug trafficking.

Other things that can disqualify you:

Felony drug convictions.

Certain other drug convictions.

Child support cases.

Unpaid federal loans.

Being a minor who does not have parental consent to obtain a passport.

Under federal law 22 USA see. 2714, the USA Government will not issue you a passport if you are convicted of a felony federal or state drug offense while using a passport or crossing international boundaries during the commission of that crime. They would also revoke any existing passport in these cases. This disqualification is in effect throughout the duration of your imprisonment in a jail, stay in a halfway house or parole.

The USA Secretary of State may also disqualify you if you have been convicted of a misdemeanor state or federal drug charges, except in cases of misdemeanor drug charges that involve only a first offense possession of a controlled substance. The Secretary of State can grant exceptions in humanitarian cases.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1694066]
Data is handed to the DR govt and local policia within 72 hours after arrival only when there is a prior US felony conviction involved with a US passport holder. [/QUOTE]What a fucking plan let the felons arrive for 3 days then tell the police. My friend the USA pounces on your ass when they have enough evidence they don't give you 3 days to get to sabana del Mar. Or Haiti.

The USA knows when a felon books his\her ticket.

Well put. I'm south asian and the aspect of my trips that I look forward to is to hang out with other mongers and celebrate our shared, most primal of passions.

Any cynical ploy to inject prejudice here is pathetic.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1694143]Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1694143]Pure fiction. If you are a convicted felon the chances of getting a pass port are slim to none. Havan is talking out of his rear end.[/QUOTE]My buddy is a convicted felon and can not get a passport. He also has a job as a fireman. I would think there would be something against that as well but evidently not.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1694094]You should have zero issues or problems! They want tourists, they need tourists. The hotels need the business, the resrtaurants, bars and vendors on playa Sosua too!

The chicas also need dineros and some simply want to enjoy and have some fun times while they are still under 30.

The FOCUS is SOLELY on those that do not behave themselves and / or conduct themselves well. And particularly focused on those who, ALSO, have a felony criminal record in the US.

They are simply tired of this increase in guys with felony criminal records in the USA coming to Sosua and behaving like thugs. Simple as that!

Because that is affecting the real estate developers with the major dineros for the politicians and the policia.

The tourists, individually speaking (meaning 100 or 500 per year that they may have to arrest, and confiscate passports and deport back to the USA), are irrelevant from the standpoint of dineros, for the local government versus real estate development.

And it puts the USA Embassy in an embarrassing position, exactly where the DR government wants them![/QUOTE]I sometimes hang with locals down there, spend a lot of time on the street.

I can tell you, they complain about a lot of things, the mafia (government) controlling the services, water, roads, gas, electricity, and the lack of tourist business (that's the big one) and petty thievery by local perps.

Nowhere in all my years have I heard them complain about bros from the NE fucking up the place, or seeing them causing trouble. and I'm a Canadian "paleface" lol

I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.

Ironically, the biggest complaints about the "weekend warriors" comes from other mongers, even on this board, who don't approve of their spending habits. LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1694314]I sometimes hang with locals down there, spend a lot of time on the street.

I can tell you, they complain about a lot of things, the mafia (government) controlling the services, water, roads, gas, electricity, and the lack of tourist business (that's the big one) and petty thievery by local perps.

Nowhere in all my years have I heard them complain about bros from the NE fucking up the place, or seeing them causing trouble. and I'm a Canadian "paleface" lol

I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.

Ironically, the biggest complaints about the "weekend warriors" comes from other mongers, even on this board, who don't approve of their spending habits. LOL.[/QUOTE]I would imagine the overspending of the "weekend warriors" makes them more tolerable to the locals.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1694135]Below is the article, just in case people are having problems with the link:

Dominican Republic police question 16 from US, 7 Dominicans after prostitution raid near Sosua.

Published March 12,2015.

Associated Press.

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic Police in the Dominican Republic say they questioned 16 USA Citizens following a raid on a home that authorities say was being used for prostitution.

The raid took place in Agua Clara near the beach town of Sosua on the country's north coast. A statement issued by local police on Thursday says seven Dominicans were also held for questioning after the raid the previous day.

Police say 29 prostitutes were found at the home and some were younger than 18.

Authorities have not identified any of the people who were detained and prosecutors decline comment because the case remains under investigation.

Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic, but anyone hiring a prostitute or running a brothel can face charges of sexual exploitation. Arrests, however, are rare.

I appreciate Haven123s input since I am always interested in crimes that occur in other countries, that involve Americans, whether it involves the death of Brent Lewis, the owner of Perla de Sosua; the death of a DC lawyer, who used to travel to Santo Domingo; or of an expat, who was killed by a Haitian women, several months ago, while the expat was living near Boca Chica. All this is good to know but I have found Sosua quite tame. I mean, when you have a group of guys all drinking and messing with women one would think the worst yet, for the most part, the mongers are quite well behaved. At most I've heard of complaints of mongers blasting music in the hotel area yet even with this things have calmed down. To tell you the truth I've seen more chicas act out than the mongers. I'd trust the tourists before I would ever trust the police. for the most part if one stays in the tourist areas it is quite safe. If one keeps away from the drugs and sex with minors one is even more safer. And don't get too drunk and you will not be a target for pickpockets and other crime. Stuff that people on this board, with any experience, should know.[/QUOTE]I would take the following from this:

1. There were 16 Americans arrested and 29 Dominican prostitutes. About 2 for each guy. This suggests that someone was involved in recruiting the correct number of women, rather than that each guy picked up 1. 9 ladies himself in bar or on the beach. Hence the charges of proxenetismo.

2. Some of the young women were [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. When there are raids, they always seem to claim this, but perhaps it was true. In any case, it is a huge aggravating factor even if it turns out there was one 17-year-old who came along to chaperone her older sister.

3. The US Embassy organized crime squad was involved in some way, so there was some kind of intelligence or tipoff involved. Most likely this was not the first time one of these large meet-and-greets was arranged-or was this place operating as a kind of unlicensed all-inclusive resort for lonely single men?

No one here knows anything much about the background to this raid, and the press release, like those released after the closing of Passions, is pretty terse and contains little information other than what information the authorities have chosen to release. The information they have chosen to withhold would probably be more interesting.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1694282]My buddy is a convicted felon and can not get a passport. He also has a job as a fireman. I would think there would be something against that as well but evidently not.[/QUOTE]If he had a conviction for arson or using his lawn sprinkler system on the wrong day, he might be disqualified.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1694314] I've seen more violence down there than I want to, but it has always been between locals, and sometimes between police and locals.[/QUOTE]I am completely with you on this. Unless someone on this board is a felon or into stuff that regulars are not, let's not get into a pissing contest. Reading the links, apparently whatever happened, transpired with the knowledge and assistance of the big brother and at least for me, who has yet to figure out the distinction between felony and misdemeanor, this does not even wind up on my radar screen as a blip. Rumors are best left elsewhere.

Convicted Felons can get a passport.

[QUOTE=JimJames;1694332]Convicted Felons can get a passport.[/QUOTE]Certain convicted felons like those who were convicted of child pornography or child sexual abuse cannot get a passport.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1693947]I've been staying there on occasion for over 6 years now. They went through the resort and renovated the entire place. The food is basic and plain, but for me it is ideal and healthy. I genuinely like the place and a guy that I brought with me one time loved it, and he was used to high end stuff.

The washrooms are clean (you may have to do your business while the chica is mopping the floor in the next stall Lol)

I can more or less pick my room location once I get there, and we get extra special service in the restaurants from Francesco and Fabia.

Oh yeah, then there's that sweet deal!

When was the last time you saw it?[/QUOTE]Thanks, Oakie (and Frannie).

My information is clearly out of date and I was out of order posting it without checking further. Apologies to all here and to the new management at Casa Marina. Based on Oakie's update it does become another option for Jjbee.