Rio de Janeiro Reports

Greeting from Moscow.

I am going to travel to Brazil in one week for business.

I would love to know where in Rio I can get more white Brazilian booties, in Russia most our women don't have curves like Brazilians.

Yesterday and today I received two whatsapp solicitations for money from 2 different "associates" that work at Tier 1 terms. One claimed she twisted her ankle complete with photo of her foot saying she would have to be out of work for 15 days and need $500.

The other claimed she had a car accident and needed 2000 reais to pay of the damage. Coincidently 2000 reals is now $500 USD. Please becareful of this scam clearly both are great liars with nothing to lose but everything to gain. Carnaval is coming up please do not encourage these GDPs. We may have ISG or our own small whatsapp clicks but do not underestimate the HNN (ho new network).

Peace.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1830682]Yesterday and today I received two whatsapp solicitations for money from 2 different "associates" that work at Tier 1 terms. One claimed she twisted her ankle complete with photo of her foot saying she would have to be out of work for 15 days and need $500.

The other claimed she had a car accident and needed 2000 reais to pay of the damage. Coincidently 2000 reals is now $500 USD. Please becareful of this scam clearly both are great liars with nothing to lose but everything to gain. Carnaval is coming up please do not encourage these GDPs. We may have ISG or our own small whatsapp clicks but do not underestimate the HNN (ho new network).

Peace.[/QUOTE]Girls have been trying this as long as I can remember. Technology just facilitates the scam.

Ha! That's happened to me a couple of times, a few with girls I knew pretty well and somewhat trusted asking for $ with some sob BS story. Never answered them back and I cut those ties immediately! Man, they'll try to take you for everything they can get, don't let them take advantage guys!

[QUOTE=Vladirdo;1830587]Greeting from Moscow.

I am going to travel to Brazil in one week for business.

I would love to know where in Rio I can get more white Brazilian booties, in Russia most our women don't have curves like Brazilians.[/QUOTE]Hi Vlad,

Can you private message me?

Just landed Rio, got the guides, know the places to get the pussy. Just wondering if anyone is around for a beer? Could do with a wingman, though I'm 28 and a Brit if that's not an issue LOL.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1830682]Yesterday and today I received two whatsapp solicitations for money from 2 different "associates" that work at Tier 1 terms. One claimed she twisted her ankle complete with photo of her foot saying she would have to be out of work for 15 days and need $500.

The other claimed she had a car accident and needed 2000 reais to pay of the damage. Coincidently 2000 reals is now $500 USD. Please becareful of this scam clearly both are great liars with nothing to lose but everything to gain. Carnaval is coming up please do not encourage these GDPs. We may have ISG or our own small whatsapp clicks but do not underestimate the HNN (ho new network).

Peace.[/QUOTE]I haven't received any emails, calls, or whatsapp messages requesting for financial help, yet, I guess. However, with the Brazilian economy in the dumps, this is to be expected. If I do get one of those requests, I will simply inform them of a quick solution to their crisis. Use their (ass) ets more efficiently. Lower their price of bunda, and sell in volume. That being said, this sales strategy goes against Brazilian business mentally, regardless of products for sale. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Vladirdo;1830587]Greeting from Moscow.

I am going to travel to Brazil in one week for business.

I would love to know where in Rio I can get more white Brazilian booties, in Russia most our women don't have curves like Brazilians.[/QUOTE]In the south more.

In Rio everywhere.

[QUOTE=LiveLaughFuck;1831176]Just landed Rio, got the guides, know the places to get the pussy. Just wondering if anyone is around for a beer? Could do with a wingman, though I'm 28 and a Brit if that's not an issue LOL.[/QUOTE]I'll be in rio on the 21st Feb, for 6 weeks. I'm a brit, 27 years old but live in USA at the moment. Never been to Rio before, don't speak Portuguese but started to learn very recently. Let me know if you'll be around. Could you please PM me all the info you have, guides etc if you don't mind.

I'm looking at hotels at the moment, best I see in centro is Hotel Atlantico business center. From the reviews it seems a good choice on trip advisor, My only questions are will I have to walk ages to find public transport? And more importantly is it chica friendly? It's a huge hotel so I'd assume so, but the fact it states business in the hotel title gives the impression that they may be strict.

Where would you guys suggest to stay in rio for a first timer? Not interested in the beach, just looking to pull from Brazilcupid and go to prives, so wouldn't centro be ideal?

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1831475]I'll be in rio on the 21st Feb, for 6 weeks. I'm a brit, 27 years old but live in USA at the moment. Never been to Rio before, don't speak Portuguese but started to learn very recently. Let me know if you'll be around. Could you please PM me all the info you have, guides etc if you don't mind.

I'm looking at hotels at the moment, best I see in centro is Hotel Atlantico business center. From the reviews it seems a good choice on trip advisor, My only questions are will I have to walk ages to find public transport? And more importantly is it chica friendly? It's a huge hotel so I'd assume so, but the fact it states business in the hotel title gives the impression that they may be strict.

Where would you guys suggest to stay in rio for a first timer? Not interested in the beach, just looking to pull from Brazilcupid and go to prives, so wouldn't centro be ideal?[/QUOTE]Air B & B apartments.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1831475]
Where would you guys suggest to stay in rio for a first timer? Not interested in the beach, just looking to pull from Brazilcupid and go to prives, so wouldn't centro be ideal?[/QUOTE]IHMO avoid a hotel in Centro, it is dead after 7:00 pm (I never had any problem, but theses empty avenues look scary).

You will be much better in Copacabana.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1831389]I haven't received any emails, calls, or whatsapp messages requesting for financial help, yet, I guess. However, with the Brazilian economy in the dumps, this is to be expected. If I do get one of those requests, I will simply inform them of a quick solution to their crisis. Use their (ass) ets more efficiently. Lower their price of bunda, and sell in volume. That being said, this sales strategy goes against Brazilian business mentally, regardless of products for sale. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I would ask them if they would accept payment in tubes of mosquito repellant. Should be worth something these days.

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1831533]IHMO avoid a hotel in Centro, it is dead after 7:00 pm (I never had any problem, but theses empty avenues look scary). You will be much better in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]In areas between Zona Sul Copa and Centro there are viable options that do not at night "look scary". Catete, for example.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1831464]When you are in Rio?[/QUOTE]I'm in Copacabana right now, trying to get my Claro working.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1831475]I'll be in rio on the 21st Feb, for 6 weeks. I'm a brit, 27 years old but live in USA at the moment. Never been to Rio before, don't speak Portuguese but started to learn very recently. Let me know if you'll be around. Could you please PM me all the info you have, guides etc if you don't mind.

I'm looking at hotels at the moment, best I see in centro is Hotel Atlantico business center. From the reviews it seems a good choice on trip advisor, My only questions are will I have to walk ages to find public transport? And more importantly is it chica friendly? It's a huge hotel so I'd assume so, but the fact it states business in the hotel title gives the impression that they may be strict.

Where would you guys suggest to stay in rio for a first timer? Not interested in the beach, just looking to pull from Brazilcupid and go to prives, so wouldn't centro be ideal?[/QUOTE]Hey man,

Unfortunately I will be gone by the 10th, it's a shame I could have done with some company! Check out the bubba guide, it's got all the info you'll need, I don't even know where to start yet ha.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1831475]I'll be in rio on the 21st Feb, for 6 weeks.[/QUOTE]Hey man, I fly in to rio on 3/2, and I guess I'll be there for at least a week. I'm in Brazil for 3 weeks, but I may not stay in rio the whole time, I just don't know yet. Its my first time, and I'm still in the planning phase! If anybody has any suggestions about other cities and stuff, please share!

[QUOTE=LiveLaughFuck]Check out the bubba guide, it's got all the info you'll need[/QUOTE]Link please! - thanks:0).

[QUOTE=Troyster;1831554]I would ask them if they would accept payment in tubes of mosquito repellant. Should be worth something these days.[/QUOTE]Political scandal, protests in the streets, a falling economy, rising crime, and now this. The zika virus ravaging the land! Just what Brazil needs in the run up to one of the greatest televised shows on earth! Well the exchange rate for reals to dollars is 4 to 1. Works for me!

Hi,

I am planing my first trip to RIO but I don't know if its to hard to get pussy for me there?

I want to stay at a nice and safe hotel with a good location close to a lot of sexy and not to expensive pussy.

Please help me guys couse I fumbling here.

Where do I stay?

And what places should I gp to that are safe, easy to go to and have nice girls and good lineups?

I know its a lot of demands but I am use to places lika Bangkok were I have good cheap pussy everywere. .

/ P.

[QUOTE=Puttex;1832394]Hi,

I am planing my first trip to RIO but I don't know if its to hard to get pussy for me there?

I want to stay at a nice and safe hotel with a good location close to a lot of sexy and not to expensive pussy.

Please help me guys couse I fumbling here.

Where do I stay?

And what places should I gp to that are safe, easy to go to and have nice girls and good lineups?

I know its a lot of demands but I am use to places lika Bangkok were I have good cheap pussy everywere. .

/ P.[/QUOTE]Try reading up a bit that might help. Search Bubba's guide.

First time in Rio, for a couple of days. I've been to Colombia about 8-10 times now, but wanted a different scenery. Stayed at an upscale hotel in Copacabana, right across the beach (posto 5). FYI, I was able to bring up a girl the first night, but when I tried 2 days later, the front desk enforced their no visitors policy (plenty of motels in Copa, about are are 120 BRL for a few hours).

On my first day, I went to 4 x 4, and session with one girl twice (her name was Jennifer, 27 yo). Total cost for her was 680 BRL, plus drinks (its 340 BRL for one hour session, including the room). Entry fee (forgot how much) is waived if you take a girl before 5 pm (perhaps its 6 pm, but I didn't inquire). Everything was on the menu, including anal, BBBJ, DFK, and DATY. Great start to the trip.

At night, I went to Mab's and picked up Eliza. 25 yo, flacca body, great natural T&A. 500 BRL for 3 hours, did everything except anal. Steak-sauce BBBJ, best of the trip!

One of the benefits of RTFF is knowing which places are open on which days. On my 2nd day (Saturday), I went to Centaurus as it was close to my hotel. Got there around 8 pm, and left around 12 am. Front desk guy spoke English and explained the programa, its 160 BRL entry, and a 40 minute session with a garota is 460 BRL, including the cabine. So 620 BRL if paying cash, and I think by credit card was either 720 or 750 BRL. I only paid the entry, but in hindsight, I probably should have paid the entire amount upfront so I wouldn't have to go back downstairs to pay.

RTFF so I knew the garota that helps with the robe is one of the lower tier girls and I would agree with this assessment. Being a newbie, she still was able to corner me for a drink, but at least I got some tugs under the table. Finally dispatched of her, and about 15 minutes later, a tall blonde introduced herself. She had a great body, long legs and an awesome bunda. After some foreplay in the boate, headed downstairs to pay for the progama, and up to the cabine. Service was great, but no anal (finger play allowed). Only 1 shot, which took maybe 20 minutes total (she took about 5-10 minutes to get ready). She gave me a body massage to finish the clock.

Took a shower downstairs and back to boate. There are some nice girls there, but nothing worth another are 460 BRL and I wanted to save a load for a FL at Mab's.

Got to Mab's around 1 am, all the seats were taken. While I agree with previous posts that a lot of the girls are either old, ugly or both, there is some decent talent. I do suggest moving quick, since the good ones are usually not alone for long. This night, it only took a few minutes to find who I wanted, her name is Paola, said she was 25 yo. As with most girls, add a few years to get their real age. Since this one looked more like working girl than my girl from the previous night, I suggested we go to a hotel nearby. She knew of two in the area, and we walked hand in hand about 4 blocks (this was probably the only time I did not take a cab at night to get somewhere). Always be on your toes, but fortunately, everything was fine and we had a great session. She had a great thick body, fake tits and ass, nothing too outrageous. 300 BRL for Pao and 118 BRL for the room.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1832481]Try reading up a bit that might help. Search Bubba's guide.[/QUOTE]The link. Can we haz eet? .

[QUOTE=LiveLaughFuck;1831592]I'm in Copacabana right now, trying to get my Claro working.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1832547]The link. Can we haz eet? .[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2191-Bubba-Boy-s-Rio-Guide&p=1259369&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1259369.

It's in the main Brazil index page with its own topic.

I lived in Rio from 1989-1995, the glory years for mongering. It was the best 6 years of my life. I returned to the states when everything got really expensive when the real got really strong versus the dollar. After returning to the states I would go back 2 or 3 times a year. I was staying in the green building near Meia Pataca and help. The last time I was in Rio was a few months before Help closed. The worst feeling in the world is when you lived in a place and know so many people and then through the years you go back and everybody you know has either passed away or left. I felt like a complete tourist. Now I am thinking of going back and I really know nothing about what is happening now. My first question is what hotels are reasonably priced and girl friendly. Is that green building still a decent place? After Help's demise where do you pick up girls? Are any termas's decent? This really sucks that I feel like a complete newbie again.

I go to bloco Ipanema today with locals, dance for hours, sit at beach, try to kiss the girls, and get a kiss on the cheek, after several recoil. Sith Lord Eric Cartman sits holding his head for the headache of ED generics which go down in efficacy after 60 minutes, I told her 14 h, the negra wench a distraught Sith Lord Cartman whines into his storm trooper commemorative popcorn mask. While meanwhile Obi Patmarbeleza, the good jedi, does 3 hours of cardio a day to keep his rock hard eminem like pysicque toned for the bitches. So we go to VM at 22 h, fuck a hot as little loira Tamires for 75, then wingmen and I take back Tamires and another negra for a tag team 2 on 2 at the pad. Tamires and Tamires are friends, which will make the dupla that much better soon. I bang Tamires the negra twice, with one condom (slipped it on a second time, as it was all I had, yes, I'm a horny bastard). After a day of smoking reefer madness on the beach and banging and blowing 3 loads in two hot ass 19 year old Brazilian women, I am quite satisfied. Paid 150 each for the two pretinhas, plus 50 for cab. An efficient allocation of resources.

[QUOTE=Carioca34;1832887]I lived in Rio from 1989-1995, the glory years for mongering. It was the best 6 years of my life. I returned to the states when everything got really expensive when the real got really strong versus the dollar. After returning to the states I would go back 2 or 3 times a year. I was staying in the green building near Meia Pataca and help. The last time I was in Rio was a few months before Help closed. The worst feeling in the world is when you lived in a place and know so many people and then through the years you go back and everybody you know has either passed away or left. I felt like a complete tourist. Now I am thinking of going back and I really know nothing about what is happening now. My first question is what hotels are reasonably priced and girl friendly. Is that green building still a decent place? After Help's demise where do you pick up girls? Are any termas's decent? This really sucks that I feel like a complete newbie again.[/QUOTE]Girl-friendly hotels include the IBIS chain-remember to check out the girls personally at reception.

Termas are all there still-depending on your taste! If you want to get that plastic factory vibe go to MC, Centaurus or Solarium.

4 x 4 can be factory too but you can find a gem.

Cancun is hit and miss-I prefer diggin in the crates of VM and Tier 2/3 termas personally for ghetto gems-they are more sincere and real.

Apartments through Air BNB is easy too.

[QUOTE=Carioca34;1832887]I was staying in the green building near Meia Pataca and help... Is that green building still a decent place?[/QUOTE]
In the nineties I stayed in the green building many times, while looking for apartments. It was great value and top location. It's still a decent place, but it cost way more than USD10 today.

Today I was very lucky. I went to Angels massagem on RB185 at 9 AM. Only one girl had arrived and she wasn't interesting. I went downstairs and had a suco. When I went back up the elevator guy was totally excited. A new girl, a morena, had just arrived at Angels massagem. He was kissing his fingers and telling about the wonderful "carne fresca". It sounded interesting to me.

I entered Angels and was presented to the new girl which I chose. Bruna, 22 years, morena escura, very cute and innocent, fit, small tits (2 kids), strong legs and a wonderful firm and round ass. This charming girl studies at UFRJ and has never done programas before. Today was her first day and I was her first customer ever. She said "You'll be the man I'll never forget", i.e the first guy to buy her p*ssy. She hadn't received any instructions on how the procedures work in a privê. First she was very shy when undressing, but relaxed when I flattered her beauty. Her BBBJ started slowly but soon she showed good skills. The f*cking was excellent, very GFE, without any fake moaning or hardcore tricks. I did my best to be gentle with this sweet girl and I enjoyed myself very much and popped just two minutes before the session ended. Enough time to take some pictures of her.

Bruna will only work a short time at Angels so now is the time to enjoy her.

R$90/30 min.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1833363]Today I was very lucky. I went to Angels massagem on RB185 at 9 AM. I entered Angels and was presented to the new girl which I chose. Bruna, 22 years, morena escura, very cute and innocent, fit, small tits (2 kids).[/QUOTE]Only 2 kids! What a catch.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1833365]Only 2 kids! What a catch.[/QUOTE]
Some people doesn't change. Golfinho, you were just as boring before you changed your alias from Zingadoon.
If you have problems with me sharing information, then just put me on the ignore list or press:
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[QUOTE=Sperto;1833513]Some people doesn't change. Golfinho, you were just as boring before you changed your alias from [/QUOTE]Before changing my alias from Prosal.

After the closing of HELP (moment of silence).

I've been mainly a termas guy with occasional beach or balcony or even a Barbarella girl sometimes. I've never tried the escorts here in Rio. Generally speaking I'm not a big fan of choosing a girl based off some probably photoshopped pics and a paragraph write up. Also not a lot of reviews here so I thought this week I would devote myself to exploring what [URL]hotside.com.br[/URL] has to offer.

About 2 weeks prior to landing in Rio I began to look over the girls and try to send them whatsapp messages. I filtered the English speakers who were in Zona Sul and messaged those I liked. About 50% of the girls had phones that were using whatsapp and I concentrated on those. The girl that responded quickest and with the most messages was Antonella from Argentina.

Weird she took her profile down today (day after our session) So no link now but I'm sure it will be up again soon as she has plans for veterinary school so a lot of bills to pay. A pic from her whatsapp is posted.

So I was arriving on the all night from Bogota at 730 am and I wanted some action right away and Antonella was the easiest to get a hold of. She quoted me 600 real for an hour! Fuck I could probably escape out of Solarium for about that price! But then I thought fuck it I've got two retirement checks to spend and I like to spend it on myself.

After enduring rush hour traffic, I stored my bags at the hotel and got to Antonella's apartment by 11 am. She looked exactly like her photos both in body and face. Not gorgeous but nice looking. Her apartment was decorated nice and the living room had a flat screen showing naked pics of her. We went into her bedroom that had some candles lit, low red romantic lighting and soft music on. Very classy. We talked for about 10 minutes and her English is quite good. She then asked for the money upfront and I paid even though I hate doing this. She undressed me and then laid me back on the bed and began kissing my neck, chest, stomach until she got below and she stopped and got a wet towel and cleaned my junk off. She then continued with a slow BBBJ from below. Then she turned sideways and washed my balls with her tongue. I was reaching around and playing with her pussy but she didn't take the hint and slide around more for some 69. She then put a condom on and began "riding" me. It was one of the slowest most unenthusiastic cowgirls in a long time. After a while of this we switched to missionary and I began to pound her as best as I could. Whether she was fake moaning or not I couldn't care less. She was also avoiding all kinds of kissing. Her pussy did feel amazing though and I felt the urge to cum. I resisted the urge as I wanted to cover her in cum to make up for the lack of effort. I did my best to cover her tits and stomach with as much cum as I could choke out. We then got cleaned up and talked a little before I left.

Overall- very nice girl, good English, not bad looking, classy. But WAY overpriced! A perfect example of paying top price doesn't equal top service and frequently paying top price ends up with below average service. But I still had a decent time and I walked back to my hotel via the beach.

Later that afternoon I was reviewing the pics on hotside when I came across a new profile.

[URL]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/robertagaucha/1130[/URL]

Her name was Roberta Gaucha and I liked what I saw so I sent her a whatsapp message. She replied quickly and we set up a date for 930 pm. Her place was very close to my hotel probably only about a 9-iron away. She opened the door in some white lingerie and a weird sun hat. She was as cute as the pictures I'd seen and a banging hot body. She shares a small 2 bedroom with another girl and we headed back to her room and she began hugging me and kissing me. I already knew this was going to be a much better experience plus her rate was half that of the last girl. She has some English so communicating wasn't difficult. She told me " I like you, you my first person". I replied " I like you too, huh? She explained she put her ad up today and I was her first customer here.

We continued with the kissing only interrupted by her stopping and showing me her body. "You like my tits?" I did like them very much even if they were silicon. "You like my ass? I did and showed my appreciation by fondling it as we continued to kiss. She stopped the kissing after 5 minutes and asked about her "gift". I gave her the 300 real and she thanked me and took off her little night gown revealing her really sexy body but she put her sun hat back on. She then pulled my clothes off and I pushed her down on the bed and got on top of her kissing her and sucking her tits. Her hat fell off and I thought well that's the end of the hat but no she put it back on. I kissed lower on her body until I got to her pussy and she started in with the "gostoso and safado". We switched positions so she could blow me and after awhile I turned her around so we could continue in 69 with the hat on of course. She then put a condom on and threw some lube on my cock and we began with her on top. She stopped us after maybe two minutes and pulled off the condom and began putting a new one on and said "you like ass baby?" More lube on and we began standing and her bending over the bed. The next half hour was spent with me fucking her in the ass in every position we could think of all while she wore the hat. Finally I was on top of her missionary and going very deep and I asked her where she wanted me to cum. She said "no! Fuck me more I want to cum first" God I love Brasil! I love Colombia, Thailand and the Philippines too but damn it is hard to top Brasil. So she rubs her pussy while I explore part of her colon. She finishes and I stand up and pull off the condom and she grabs oil and gets on her knees and tits fucks me. As pleasurable as this is I won't cum like this so I take things into my own hands and begin cumming on her tits at which point she grabs my cock and starts slapping it on her cheek as I finish cumming. God I love Brasil. She then leads me to her small bathroom and shower. I shower and then return to her room and she says "now I give you a massage". I lie face down and she puts some oil on me and gives me about a 10 minute massage and then she slaps my ass and says "OK finished". I get dressed and we hug and kiss and I leave.

Overall- WOW, Roberta is a little sexy porn star in the making. Half the price and 5 x the fun of the morning girl. OK more escorts tomorrow.

Hard to re-size the pics on my iPhone that I typed this on but first pic is Antonella and second Roberta.

My history was similar to yours until my most recent trip. I also tried going the escort route for the first time there. Antonella was my first choice as well mainly because she communicated well in English and was responsive / easy to schedule. My review would be similar to yours. She was pretty, but not gorgeous. Friendly, but not affectionate or passionate. She advertises anal, but should probably put a disclaimer on that service. I am pretty average in size and she was so clearly uncomfortable that she quickly showed relief when I offered to stop. On the plus side, her pics were accurate, English was good and she must have recently increased the price because I went in for are $400.

Having said that, I am headed back this weekend and would love to hear any suggestions for other escorts. I will almost certainly test drive the one you recommend below even though I strongly prefer natural over silicone. If it is one weakness in this forum I would day it is solid reviews of the escort niche. I am committed to doing my part to remedy that. My plan is to experiment with at least four on this trip. I am going to try to test at least two just randomly based on good looking pics and profiles from reputable sites and would like two solid recommendations.

Hopefully, some of you can point me in a good direction. Either way, I will let you know how it went in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1833843]After the closing of HELP (moment of silence).

I've been mainly a termas guy with occasional beach or balcony or even a Barbarella girl sometimes. I've never tried the escorts here in Rio. Generally speaking I'm not a big fan of choosing a girl based off some probably photoshopped pics and a paragraph write up. Also not a lot of reviews here so I thought this week I would devote myself to exploring what [URL]hotside.com.br[/URL] has to offer.

About 2 weeks prior to landing in Rio I began to look over the girls and try to send them whatsapp messages. I filtered the English speakers who were in Zona Sul and messaged those I liked. About 50% of the girls had phones that were using whatsapp and I concentrated on those. The girl that responded quickest and with the most messages was Antonella from Argentina.

Weird she took her profile down today (day after our session) So no link now but I'm sure it will be up again soon as she has plans for veterinary school so a lot of bills to pay. A pic from her whatsapp is posted.

So I was arriving on the all night from Bogota at 730 am and I wanted some action right away and Antonella was the easiest to get a hold of. She quoted me 600 real for an hour! Fuck I could probably escape out of Solarium for about that price! But then I thought fuck it I've got two retirement checks to spend and I like to spend it on myself....[/QUOTE]

Overall- WOW, Roberta is a little sexy porn star in the making. Half the price and 5 x the fun of the morning girl. OK more escorts tomorrow.

OMG--makes me miss Rio, Brazil--plan to go back next year for sure!

I strongly suggest that nobody, even short-term visitors to Brazil / Rio, pay GDPs up-front. Nobody (really *nobody*) does this here. It's so weird to see it being asked.

My sense is they know you are a gringo and are trying to get away with things.

Once you pay up front, you lose a lot of leverage over the girl's performance. Quite frankly the best way to handle it, if asked, is to just smile at the girl like she's retarded, laugh, and say 'Depois, querida. " Or something similar.

I had a girl at Centaurus try to give me a covered blow job once. I laughed at her and told her she wouldn't be the first girl in a Rio termas in 5 years to blow me with a condom. She relented.

No Brazilians or even long-term visitors like Good Jedi Patmar put up with this stuff. Please don't encourage bad behavior, as a favor to your fellows. Also as a favor to yourself.

Also please be advised that for Hotside type escorts, a reasonable rate is going to be in the BRL 300 - 400 range. PLEASE read gpguia. Brazil is in its worst economic crisis IN DECADES.

There is no reason a girl should be charging BRL 500 + per hour unless she is doing unbelievable things (and +1'd on gpguia for such). Patmar is laughing because he gets better service for BRL 70 from VM girls. I'm cringing because even though to you, the visitor, it doesn't seem like a lot (especially at current FX), it does definitely create unrealistic expectations in the girls which affects us all.

Yeh, I know. "Fuck you, Cartman. I'll spend my money how I want. " It's like the guys in my office who leave the air conditioning on in meeting rooms after using them -- they don't have to stick around and pay the bills at the end of the month.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1833843]After the closing of HELP (moment of silence).


Her name was Roberta Gaucha and I liked what I saw so I sent her a whatsapp message. She replied quickly and we set up a date for 930 pm. Her place was very close to my hotel probably only about a 9-iron away. She opened the door in some white lingerie and a weird sun hat. She was as cute as the pictures I'd seen and a banging hot body. She shares a small 2 bedroom with another girl and we headed back to her room and she began hugging me and kissing me. I already knew this was going to be a much better experience plus her rate was half that of the last girl. She has some English so communicating wasn't difficult. She told me " I like you, you my first person". I replied " I like you too, huh? She explained she put her ad up today and I was her first customer here.

We continued with the kissing only interrupted by her stopping and showing me her body. "You like my tits?" I did like them very much even if they were silicon. "You like my ass? I did and showed my appreciation by fondling it as we continued to kiss. She stopped the kissing after 5 minutes and asked about her "gift". I gave her the 300 real and she thanked me and took off her little night gown revealing her really sexy body but she put her sun hat back on. She then pulled my clothes off and I pushed her down on the bed and got on top of her kissing her and sucking her tits. Her hat fell off and I thought well that's the end of the hat but no she put it back on. I kissed lower on her body until I got to her pussy and she started in with the "gostoso and safado". We switched positions so she could blow me and after awhile I turned her around so we could continue in 69 with the hat on of course. She then put a condom on and threw some lube on my cock and we began with her on top. She stopped us after maybe two minutes and pulled off the condom and began putting a new one on and said "you like ass baby?" More lube on and we began standing and her bending over the bed. The next half hour was spent with me fucking her in the ass in every position we could think of all while she wore the hat. Finally I was on top of her missionary and going very deep and I asked her where she wanted me to cum. She said "no! Fuck me more I want to cum first" God I love Brasil! I love Colombia, Thailand and the Philippines too but damn it is hard to top Brasil. So she rubs her pussy while I explore part of her colon. She finishes and I stand up and pull off the condom and she grabs oil and gets on her knees and tits fucks me. As pleasurable as this is I won't cum like this so I take things into my own hands and begin cumming on her tits at which point she grabs my cock and starts slapping it on her cheek as I finish cumming. God I love Brasil. She then leads me to her small bathroom and shower. I shower and then return to her room and she says "now I give you a massage". I lie face down and she puts some oil on me and gives me about a 10 minute massage and then she slaps my ass and says "OK finished". I get dressed and we hug and kiss and I leave.

Overall- WOW, Roberta is a little sexy porn star in the making. Half the price and 5 x the fun of the morning girl. OK more escorts tomorrow.

Hard to re-size the pics on my iPhone that I typed this on but first pic is Antonella and second Roberta.[/QUOTE]Best part of your report was the fact you kept noticing her hat. Hilarious. Good stuff.

[QUOTE=Troyster;1834319]Best part of your report was the fact you kept noticing her hat. Hilarious. Good stuff.[/QUOTE]I couldn't help not noticing her hat! It fell off a minimum of 3 times and she put it back on every time. Quote "baby my hat". Me "is it necessary?" Her "baby me hat".

Day 2 - escort review.

Just finished a 2 pm appointment with Fabiane. On hot side I thought her pics were smoking hot, incredible body. However the face was blurred. When she opened the door to her apartment I could see why. Not near as cute as I hoped for but by no means ugly. Her body though was just as hot looking in person.

[URL]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/fabiane/2059[/URL]

She was in a small 1 bedroom apartment in Copa and she had a roommate crashed out on her couch. Back in the bedroom she began kissing me, some serious DFK. Maybe should be called SDFK. Her tongue was down my throat almost to where my tonsils should be. She then asked for her money and I paid her the 400 real and she began taking off her clothes and the girl's got it going on body wise. We are then on her bed and off and running with the foreplay BBBJ & DATY. Then it's time for the main event and she jumps on reverse cowgirl and begins destroying me. The destruction continued as she pivoted around to face me. It was also hard to breathe as her serpent tongue was down my throat again. We then switched to doggy, first me bending her over the bed, then with her one leg on a chair and finally her ass in the air and face down. After this she got up and went on her knees and pulled off the condom, "leche give me now " So being the nice guy that I am I unloaded in her mouth and some on her chin. Shower time and then back to the bed for a fairly lame massage until she turned me over and began sucking me. I tried to tell her "baby I'm too tired" but she didn't listen and kept going until I got hard again and she put a condom on me and started riding me again. Our time was running out so she told me to cum. I tried telling her "baby that ain't happening 10 minutes after the last". Her response? She got me to stand and she took the condom off and began blowing me again. Sure felt nice but impossible for me to cum again so soon. Again I tried to tell her. Again she said "them mi boca". Finally I had to just pull my cock out and head to the shower. I hear behind me "leite, mas leite". After showering me got dressed and she told me to write her again so I can give her more leite.

Overall- amazing body and a real machine in the bed. Just average looking face though. Also speaks very little English despite what her profile says.

Left her apartment and went to get me an Acai. After the garotas, the beaches, the churrascurias, the caipirinhas, Acai is one of my favorite things about Brasil. I end up with 2-3 per day here. Back to the hotel to pick the next escort to review.

A couple of the girls I wanted to try are answering slow so I headed over to MC. It's definitely not the best terma by any means but it's less than a 10 minute walk so it's my Plan be. I do the usual steam-shower-boite routine. Once upstairs I'm greeted by a very so-so lineup. For all you guys with the profile names: ilikebigbutts3, bigbuttsinmyface2, phatassfreak4, you won't be disappointed at MC. Absolutely 4 x 4 and other places are better for sure but there was big ass aplenty tonight at MC. My intention was to drink some and sample the scene however fortunately or regrettably I saw a semi-cute blonde named Priscila that I did on a short layover in November. I tried to avoid her line of sight but I was caught and she pounced! She moved with lightning speed and was on my lap her hand under my robe and saying "baby I missed you" and the kissing began. I should've been stronger and sent her on her way empty handed but 1. She was a decent fuck last time 2. She was above average in tonight's lineup (I'm not into asses pumped so full of silicon that they are literally the size of horse's ass). So after a drink for each of us and some serious making out we headed to the cabina. Once in the room she was very kissy kissy and she demonstrated way above average cowgirl riding skill but the blowjob and other stuff was very average. It wasn't great but certainly wasn't bad it was just another pretty decent fuck with her. We said our goodbyes and I went downstairs to shower and the paid my bill and went home to answer messages from hotside girls.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834260]I strongly suggest that nobody, even short-term visitors to Brazil / Rio, pay GDPs up-front. Nobody (really *nobody*) does this here. It's so weird to see it being asked.

My sense is they know you are a gringo and are trying to get away with things.

Once you pay up front, you lose a lot of leverage over the girl's performance. Quite frankly the best way to handle it, if asked, is to just smile at the girl like she's retarded, laugh, and say 'Depois, querida. " Or something similar.

I had a girl at Centaurus try to give me a covered blow job once. I laughed at her and told her she wouldn't be the first girl in a Rio termas in 5 years to blow me with a condom. She relented.

No Brazilians or even long-term visitors like Good Jedi Patmar put up with this stuff. Please don't encourage bad behavior, as a favor to your fellows. Also as a favor to yourself.

Also please be advised that for Hotside type escorts, a reasonable rate is going to be in the BRL 300 - 400 range. PLEASE read gpguia. Brazil is in its worst economic crisis IN DECADES.

There is no reason a girl should be charging BRL 500 + per hour unless she is doing unbelievable things (and +1'd on gpguia for such). Patmar is laughing because he gets better service for BRL 70 from VM girls. I'm cringing because even though to you, the visitor, it doesn't seem like a lot (especially at current FX), it does definitely create unrealistic expectations in the girls which affects us all.

Yeh, I know. "Fuck you, Cartman. I'll spend my money how I want. " It's like the guys in my office who leave the air conditioning on in meeting rooms after using them -- they don't have to stick around and pay the bills at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with King Cartman.

Paying that type of money is affirmation to them that THE GRINGO still exists! I have had better service taking a latina Rihanna out of Florida Bar for 100 reais- VM for 50-150 for 36 hours- mv30 for.

A filet mignon, drinks and cab fare to!

Read up and don't be shook-don't be scared to hold your own and never part with the money upfront-they already won then.

Escorts always are hit and miss like everything else-as photos / age / body don't match alot of times.

At least in person at VM, MV etc you can inspect the goods!

Cartman is right so pago depois.

Still the force is strong in this one half hour anal Gaucha hat funny.

Now may your red saber wilt from obesity and neglect of princess Kamila.

Obi wanmarbeleza blue saber burns brightly yet unrequited for Kamila held captive on sampa by fefao solo.

Solo into ice you go as my saber slides up Kamila's asshole.

I will become more powerful than you ever imagined sith Vader.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834260]I strongly suggest that nobody, even short-term visitors to Brazil / Rio, pay GDPs up-front. Nobody (really *nobody*) does this here. It's so weird to see it being asked.

My sense is they know you are a gringo and are trying to get away with things.

Once you pay up front, you lose a lot of leverage over the girl's performance. Quite frankly the best way to handle it, if asked, is to just smile at the girl like she's retarded, laugh, and say 'Depois, querida. " Or something similar.

I had a girl at Centaurus try to give me a covered blow job once. I laughed at her and told her she wouldn't be the first girl in a Rio termas in 5 years to blow me with a condom. She relented.

No Brazilians or even long-term visitors like Good Jedi Patmar put up with this stuff. Please don't encourage bad behavior, as a favor to your fellows. Also as a favor to yourself..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1834417]I have to agree with King Cartman.

Paying that type of money is affirmation to them that THE GRINGO still exists! I have had better service taking a latina Rihanna out of Florida Bar for 100 reais- VM for 50-150 for 36 hours- mv30 for.

A filet mignon, drinks and cab fare to!

Read up and don't be shook-don't be scared to hold your own and never part with the money upfront-they already won then.

Escorts always are hit and miss like everything else-as photos / age / body don't match alot of times.

At least in person at VM, MV etc you can inspect the goods![/QUOTE]"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know.

I also knew good and god damn well when I wrote my report that some of you wouldn't like it and would start butchering me for paying too much and paying up front. But, that didn't stop me from reporting the truth. I paid the first girl 600 reais and up front. I very easy could've lied and said she opened with 600 and I bargained her down to 300 and then told her you get your 300 baby after the deed when I'm happy with your performance. Then I would've looked cool and you wouldn't have told me to read and don't act scared. But my reports are 100% honest even if it makes me look bad because that's the info people need. Both the success stories and the mistakes / failures are all learning points.

My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write. All you guys give out very valuable useful information and without you guys the board would be almost useless. However what you guys experience here is different than the guys that come for a short time. You've invested the time, learned the language and built up contacts and so you get girls for 100 reais for all night and day. It's the same thing I get in Medellin where I spend most of my time. Girls charging $100 or more per hour to new guys and they come see me for free on days they aren't busy. But I let the Medellin tourists run their game while I run mine. Just like the Rio ex-pats here continue doing what you like and the Rio tourists like myself will continue doing what pleases us.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834345]Day 2 - escort review.
..... She then asked for her money and I paid her the 400 real and she began taking off her clothes ....[/QUOTE]Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.

Everyone keeps asking about the hat. Well here it is. Believe me when I say it was bigger in person.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1834522]Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.[/QUOTE]I always pay in advance, I don't have trouble don't forget you will be alone with the lady in the room if there is a problem you can always get the money back just be clear about what you want.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1834522]Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.[/QUOTE]I've said that to many guys in Colombia before but now I think more about it I am starting to change my mind. Sure I prefer to pay after but I don't sweat it now. This is a trip to Brasil for me not a Brasilian vacation. The difference is I'm not here for 7 days and then going back to the States to work. 90% of my life is a vacation. Last 6 months I've taken two trips to Thailand / Philippines, 2 to Brasil and 6 to Colombia. So if I have a bad session or two because I paid up front it's not a big deal like it is for some guy here for a week and then 6 months back in sexual purgatory.

I've paid in advance and gotten bad service and I've paid in advance twice this trip and got fucked crazy porn style. I've paid after and gotten bad service before as well as paying after and getting great service. For me paying before or after isn't making much of a difference.

And what's your play if you are a pay after guy and she was below average? Not pay her? Pay her less than the agreed on fee? Then what? She's immediately on the phone threatening to call the police, security, her pimp etc. Then just to avoid the attention of the police you pay her the agreed on fee to get the fuck out of your room and life.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834500]"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know.

I also knew good and god damn well when I wrote my report that some of you wouldn't like it and would start butchering me for paying too much and paying up front. But, that didn't stop me from reporting the truth. I paid the first girl 600 reais and up front. I very easy could've lied and said she opened with 600 and I bargained her down to 300 and then told her you get your 300 baby after the deed when I'm happy with your performance. Then I would've looked cool and you wouldn't have told me to read and don't act scared. But my reports are 100% honest even if it makes me look bad because that's the info people need. Both the success stories and the mistakes / failures are all learning points.

My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write. All you guys give out very valuable useful information and without you guys the board would be almost useless. However what you guys experience here is different than the guys that come for a short time. You've invested the time, learned the language and built up contacts and so you get girls for 100 reais for all night and day. It's the same thing I get in Medellin where I spend most of my time. Girls charging $100 or more per hour to new guys and they come see me for free on days they aren't busy. But I let the Medellin tourists run their game while I run mine. Just like the Rio ex-pats here continue doing what you like and the Rio tourists like myself will continue doing what pleases us.[/QUOTE]I respect what you're saying but from now on play it our way and get double the trouble for half the pay. We don't report to look good, we just report to show a different way.

Jedi Obiwanmarbeleza thinks of wearing his hat, which is underrated, to go see the gaucha's hat in person, a rail thin wraith in a long cloak in the desert.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834523]Everyone keeps asking about the hat. Well here it is. Believe me when I say it was bigger in person.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834500]My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate your reports about escorts and find them interesting (I've only tried one escort ever). It's good to read something new on the board and learn from others experiences. Your escorts reports are valuable. I couldn't care less what you, or someone else, pay your escort girls. I'm happy as long as nobody starts to overpay the privê-girls. Paying GPs upfront isn't wise or expected, but you propably change that habit the day some girl tries to fool you.

Btw, there is a thread, "Rio de Janeiro - Escorts":
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1782-Rio-de-Janeiro-Escorts[/URL]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1834636]. I respect what you're saying but from now on play it our way and get double the trouble for half the pay .[/QUOTE]Many of the things I do are not me making rookie errors but me running tests to keep myself entertained. I. E. Paying up front-- hypotheses would say I've lowered my chance for a high quality session: true or false? Paying extra-- better performance due to the premium or worse performance since you are viewed as a sucker?

Last 4 escorts average was 350 reais and performance has ranged from very good to lights out superstar helping to prove that paying extra is more likely to decrease performance.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1834636]We don't report to look good, we just report to show a different way.[/QUOTE]That's probably one of the reasons this is a much more useful thread than many of the other ISG threads.

As Senor Sperto has said there is a separate escort page so if the mod wants to move all the reports there fine by me. I thought here it just gets more eyes on the info as so many people miss those other threads. An example from everywhere in the general thread not the hotel thread "hey I'm heading to Medellin / Bogota / AC / Pattaya / Rio are there any girl friendly hotels close to the action?

Next up to review. Lara Fernandes.

[URL]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/larafernandes/2046[/URL]

So I set up an appointment tonight at 8 pm with Lara. She says on her profile she's a Dominatrix and her pictures show her in leather and chains. Not really my thing, it was her body that caught my eye. I did ask her what she meant by "chuvas" (showers) on her profile. She explained that if guys want she showers them with liquids out of all three of her holes! Definitely not my bag but for those of you who are. Hit her up.

So I show up to her apartment at 8 pm and she is dressed in black leather outfit with holes where the boobs are. Hello there. We got acquainted first by kissing for a minute of tongue action then we said our "hellos and nice to meet yous". She is a tall girl and the pics of her body are spot on. Fit, firm and tight but sadly that comes with fake boobs and likely some fake ass. Her face is decent again not gorgeous but she's an attractive lady. Her profile claims she speaks English. Ummm not really. I suspected as much from her whatsapp messages they seemed very Google translator-ish. But she's a nice girl and we used her phone when needed. I'm tired of writing all this penthouse forum shit on my iPhone. So the short version we kissed, she sucked, I licked, we sucked / licked together and we fucked in 4 positions? Maybe 5. Fuck it. Then a grand finish in her mouth and we were done. Then we talked her in Portuguese and me in ol' Espanol. I probably understood 20% maybe just kept on nodding yes. Here's my key to talking to a brasilian. Just ask them about what they think about their government and the World Cup / Olympics. They will then go off on a tirade and you just nod yes occasionally. Works best during the day outside because then with dark sunglasses you don't even need to maintain eye contact. Works on hookers, taxi drivers, hotel staff, girls at the beach, dudes at the gym, old couple sharing a safari with me and the g / f in Zambia. Try it.

Overall- Lara has a killer body (enhanced though) and is a good fuck. Cool girl to "talk" to. We also spent 20 minutes with her showing me her USA vacation pics. She also has a friend she does duplas with and for you sick fucks she will crap all over you if you want. All for 350 real. Oh yeah afterwards she gave me a beer. I'm only here a week so won't repeat but will stay in touch so when I am back this summer I will give her another shot.

It's now 11 pm and feeling tired but will head over to Barbarella to enjoy two crazily overpriced drinks with the goal of collecting 3 phone numbers.

I appreciate the reports. You are correct that it is a different demand for the occasional visitor and the resident expats. I really value the input of the regulars here and try to model their patterns, but it is challenging in a short time frame and with limited language skills. Hell, even the termas are a challenge without speaking Portuguese. That is precisely why I have experimented more with escorts lately. Clearly, the prives are the best value I have found for good quality. However, I think an escort with a good location and English skills is worth the extra money on occasion.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834500]"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know..[/QUOTE]

One thing that first-time or occasional visitors to Rio / Brazil often are not aware of (and that even some seasoned veterans sometimes refuse to believe) is this: the vast majority of GDPs (girls) are connected and either know each other directly, or know each other indirectly.

They all join each other's facebook pages, accumulating "friends" from their co-workers over time in termas, in privees, as escorts etc. They also *all* -- and I mean *all* -- participate in What'sApp groups. For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10. So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.

If you think the girls are not talking about you, you are wrong. I gave a Victoria's Secret gift bag to a favorite the other day, and noticed she immediately posted it to a What'sApp Group along with another similar bag of goodies that another client gave her.

I saw this because another GDP, in the same group, showed it to me even though the doesn't know the girl I gave it to, or that I gave it to her. (Or so I think. I'm probably wrong LOL).

My point is this: the girls *do* share stories and talk. This is one reason that GPguia is such a powerful tool for guys (along with other forums), but GPguia in particular because of its rating system and tons of reviews on indepedents / escorts. It gives you a powerful tool to understand "market price" and how girls behave. Obi-wan Patmar has poured over forums here in Brazil like a viagra-laced Yoda reading Jedi holocrons, and look at him today -- he is the top take-down artist operating in Rio, IMHO.

Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" or "please feel free to keep overpaying (GDP type x) as long as you don't overpay (GDP type y)", you are missing (or worse, willfully ignoring) the fact that the girls will end up sharing all your behavior and it can hurt the market for the rest of us -- whether long time residents or newbies.

Yes, one person's overpaying will get shared to a What'sApp group with 300+ GDPs. It will. Probably with an "rsrsrs" or "kkkkkkkkk" at the end of it. Can I guarantee that such sharing will encourage other girls to ask outrageous things as well? No. But it sure is more than likely.

Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it. Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc). I'm not saying only pay BRL 70 for girls you pull out of VM. I'm trying to orient you to the market and not overpay -- you're certainly welcome to pay less.

I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board. You are helping (at best) only yourself.

I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years.

More than 1. 54 million people were fired in 2015 as companies tried to cut costs to stay afloat, with many more expected in 2016: [URL]http://g1.globo.com/globo-news/jornal-globo-news/videos/v/com-154-milhao-de-demissoes-em-2015-brasil-registra-o-pior-resultado-desde-1992/4754061/[/URL].

Bear that in mind when some GDP has the audacity to ask you for BRL 600 or 700 or 800 for an hour or 2 of her company. Just because you're thirsty doesn't mean you should fork over USD 25 for a bottle of water, even if you think it's Evian or Perrier. I guarantee you it's not the only, nor the best tasting, bottle of water in the store. (Sure, Disneyland will try to charge you some crazy price -- but that's scarcity value, you're trapped in their park for 8 hours with screaming kids. There is *no* scarcity value in Brazil for GDPs. Literally. It is the definition of abundance mentality).

Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to get Trump to give up the comb-over. "Your reasoned argument and clever Facebook posts have convinced me to change my opinion" -- said nobody on the internet *ever.*

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834700]One thing that first-time or occasional visitors to Rio / Brazil are not aware of is this: the vast majority of GDPs (girls) are connected and either know each other directly, or know each other indirectly.

They all join each other's facebook pages, accumulating "friends" from their co-workers over time in termas, in privees, as escorts etc.

They also *all* -- and I mean *all* -- participate in What'sApp groups. For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10.

So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.

If you think the girls are not talking about you, you are wrong. I gave a Victoria's Secret gift bag to a favorite the other day, and noticed she immediately posted it to a What'sApp Group along with another similar bag of goodies that another client gave her.

I saw this because another GDP, in the same group, showed it to me even though the doesn't know the girl I gave it to, or that I gave it to her. (Or so I think. I'm probably wrong LOL).

My point is this: the girls *do* share stories and talk. This is one reason that GPguia is such a powerful tool for guys (along with other forums), but GPguia in particular because of its rating system and tons of reviews on indepedents / escorts.

It gives you a powerful tool to understand "market price" and how girls behave. Obi-wan Patmar has poured over forums here in Brazil like a viagra-laced Yoda reading Jedi holocrons, and look at him today -- he is the top take-down artist operating in Rio, IMHO.

Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" or "please feel free to keep overpaying (GDP type x) as long as you don't overpay (GDP type y)", you are missing the fact that the girls will end up sharing all your behavior and it can hurt the market for the rest of us -- whether long time residents or newbies.

Yes, one person's overpaying will get shared to a What'sApp group with 300+ GDPs. It will. Can I guarantee that such sharing will encourage other girls to ask outrageous things as well? No. But it sure is more than likely.

Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it.

Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc).

I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board.

You are helping (at best) only yourself.

Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to convince Trump to give up the comb-over.

I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years.

More than 1. 54 million people were fired in 2015 as companies tried to cut costs to stay afloat, with many more expected in 2016: [URL]http://g1.globo.com/globo-news/jornal-globo-news/videos/v/com-154-milhao-de-demissoes-em-2015-brasil-registra-o-pior-resultado-desde-1992/4754061/[/URL].

Bear that in mind when some GDP has the audacity to ask you for BRL 600 or 700 or 800 for an hour or 2 of her company. Just because you're thirsty doesn't mean you should fork over USD 25 for a bottle of water, even if you think it's Evian or Perrier. I guarantee you it's not the only, nor the best tasting, bottle of water in the store. (Sure, Disneyland will try to charge you some crazy price -- but that's scarcity value, you're trapped in their park for 8 hours with screaming kids. There is *no* scarcity value in Brazil for GDPs. Literally. It is the definition of abundance mentality).

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]I don't think its just Brazil. Women talk a lot period. They have the same Chica Network like in Sousa Dominican Republic, Columbia and or when you go to Asia (Philippines / Thailand). They all discuss there clients, Who has a big dick, who is cheap, what happen last night in the bedroom, they all talk and share pictures.

But its no different from the average monger, We do the same thing, we go on Forums / Blogs and discuss working girls, Who is good in bed? Which ones to avoid, its the same thing they do we also talk a lot too, So it goes hand and hand.

I arrived at 1130 with the intention of enjoying a little striptease and trying to get a few numbers. I entered and it was a meat market in reverse. At least 80 girls and less than 10 guys. There were actually a few catcalls or whatever it's called when girls call out to guys as I was led to my table. The price of admittance is 80 reais and for that I got two caipirinhas. Additional caipirinhas were 25 each.

No matter what your taste you would probably find something to your liking you might not like the price though. Be prepared for sticker shock. But there was everything available short girls, tall ones, fake tits / natural tits, black girls, white girls, morenas, and even a few fat ugly girls for you chubby chasers. Very pressured sales approach though. As new guys entered a small pack of hyenas would surround them and have to literally be beaten away.

I had a girl who didn't leave my side for two hours despite my best attempts to ignore her. The first hour I tried ignoring her to no success. I should've just told her to get lost but I didn't. The second hour I thought I would change tactics and start groping her without buying her a drink. Weird thing was she never asked for a drink the whole night. We then began some LFK and I continued with groping her ass. Still wouldn't leave. I finally decided to be nice and I bought her a drink 55 reais for vodka / red bull. I had already asked the waiter about the prices so I knew ahead of time how expensive it would be.

She brought up the prices and said girls get maybe 600 reais and sometimes up to 1000. I gave her a quizzical look and she said again, "yes 600 maybe one thousand maybe two thousand" that got her the "are you fucking kidding me look" and she answered "no 2000 me like make joking" I kinda doubt she was joking. I also couldn't hear her well to understand if Barbarella gets a fee too. The only chick I've ever taken from Barbarella was a real hot and would spend the night with me on her night off Tuesday.

Overall a lot of talent at Barbarella but be prepared for big prices. Attitude of girls hard to say since I spent 95% of my time with the clingy one but my guess is most will be a bit mercenary like.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834700]Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)"

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc).

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]First of all, I've never said fuck you Cartman I will do what I want. It's not my style. You have valuable insight and guidance and I consider it before I make my decisions just like I consider other people's opinions and advice too. I then however make up my own course of action. I've never even argued with you or said you are wrong because you really aren't. I just choose to walk my own path in life.

Second of all if you bothered to read the subsequent reports I paid 300/400/350/350 so quite in line with market rates.

Next up-- Thai.

[URL]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/thai/2145[/URL]

First girl that I had over to my hotel. All escorts have offered but I've gone to their places so far. I liked her natural little spinner body online and thought it would be a nice contrast to several of the recent silicones. Face also looked cute trying to deduce between the blurred out images. When I answered the door I was ecstatic. She was in fact really fucking cute beating the top girl from Barbarella and her body looked delicious in jeans shorts and a top with the top two buttons undone showing small but perky little breasts. I wanted to maul her right away but I decided to "Pull a Patmar".

Of course there are huge differences since I am in my hotel and not cooking a nice fish dinner for the lady but the concept remains the same- Make the girl comfortable, make her enjoy herself and she will stay longer. Same idea world over. In Medellin make the girl happy by taking her dancing. In the Philippines take her to Karaoke and she won't leave you alone. Now with an escort this was dangerous as an hour for 350 reais was agreed upon but game on.

I had room service deliver prior some kind of appetizer plate with some empanada like things fried cheese and a couple of other weird things. Offered her a drink, she choose a Guarana and I had a red bull and we started talking and showing pictures from our phones and eating / drinking. Time for music, I gave her my iPad after I opened YouTube and told her to pick the music. At this point we are past the 35 minute mark and two things could happen 1. She asks for more money since she stayed longer or 2. She enjoys herself and stays longer.

The kissing begins slowly and goes on for two songs without any clothes coming off. I'm thinking we are definitely going to go way over an hour and good thing I hit the ATM. Both our shirts come off and I'm all over her little perky breasts for another two songs. Shorts come off and I'm on top of her and we are making out again and dry humping each other with the underwear still on. I kiss myself down to her little pink panties and pull them off and feel them. Yes a little wet. I then started licking her and she was either enjoying it or was prolonging the session so she could collect a second hours payment because I was eating her for way more than 5 songs without her initiating any changes. She orgasms once, twice perhaps? And she starts blowing me. Not good. Very toothy. Had to cut that off after a few minutes. The condom goes on and despite the painful BJ, I am still rock hard and she goes for reverse CG. Very nice beginning, love the view of her tan little ass then instead of leaning back towards me she moves forward so her head is by my feet. Definite no-go with a fully erect penis. I thought she was going to break my shaft for sure. I am wincing and in pain but still staring at her ass. Thank the lord we switch to cowgirl and then when she tires we head to missionary. At this point I'm ready to cum so I ask her where. Sadly she answers tits and not the slutty in my mouth answer I like. Oh well. I cum on her tits and she then proceeds to play with the cum for a couple of minutes swirling it all over her left nipple.

We showered separately and then back to bed to talk and look at more pictures. I then asked her if she wanted to go to the Sambodrome tomorrow night because I have tickets. She smiled and accepted but was just worried about taxis and how will we get home. I assured her I would get us a driver so no worries. At this point we hit the two hour mark and although I enjoy her company especially since she is still naked. I'm itching to hit the beach to run and do pull-ups so I start getting dressed and she does like wise. We had agreed on 350+ taxi so I hand her 400 and she sticks it in her purse and off she goes.

Overall- very attractive girl with all natural body. Skills in the bedroom a little behind the others but still a very good time. Was able to swing some extra time with her by Pulling a Patmar albeit it was a very scaled down version.

It's what I tell guys clamoring for GFE in Colombia. If you want GFE give the girls BFE.

Spent 3 weeks in Rio in January. Stayed at 2 airbnb apartments in Centro to be near the prive and termas action (one was around the corner from MV 30) and have somewhere to go back to in between sessions rather than have to go back to Copa each time, as well as they being significantly cheaper than ones in Copa.

Casa 14, VM 72 real /30 minutes.

Ruiva, 21, redhead, very cute, great ass and tits. See my previous VM reports.

Room 1708, Rio Branco 185 90/30, 140/60 (cannot extend from 30 minutes to 60 minutes by paying the 50 real difference, have to pay 100 for another 30 minute session).

Patrizia, Brunette, 22-24, little chubby, nice face and tits, great ass. DFK as soon as she entered the room in first session, OK with dry humping from front and rear, digits OK, loved massage and DATY, good BBBJ, enthusiastic fucking, came or very good fake, CIM included in service but anal +50 and AO +2000 (as in "no way, Jose"). Sessioned 4 times with her; would have sessioned more but she left to visit family at end of my second week.

Room 1439, Rio Branco 156 100/30, 150/60 (can extend from 30 minutes to 60 minutes by paying the 50 real difference).

Sabrina, 18, pixie face, perfect petite body, DFK, digits OK, anal +50, CIM free first session, wanted 30 the second session.

Renata, redheaded mulatta, pleasant face, rolls her eyes when she comes, DFK and digits, loved anal (+50), CIM included in session, very accommodating to what you want. Saw her in November and sessioned with her 4 times this trip.

Room 725, Rio Branco 185 70/20, 90/30, 120/60.

Poliana, Blonde, 28, beautiful face, soft but great body, DFK and digits, loves anal (included in hour session, otherwise extra), BBBJ but no CIM, DFK, loved massage and DATY. Four great sessions, very nice woman.

Room 707, Rua do Ouvedor 130 70/30, 90/40, 140/60 (can extend session by paying difference between the shorter and longer session).

Made the mistake of not going to this place until the end of my second week there. Very friendly and accommodating prive (the older woman who runs the place seemed to love me and invited me to stay at her place for free the next time I came to Rio, although I think it was because of the chocolates I gave her and the girls during my visits). Some fat girls, but a few good ones.

Kelly, mid-20's, Brunette, 5'10", nice face, perfect (fake) tits, unbelievable ass (big and firm). DFK, anal, digits, and CIM included in service. Fantastic sessions.

Miuki, Blonde, OK face, nice tits, great ass. No anal but DFK, CIM and digits included. Very nice session.

Duda, brunette, bit of a belly but nice face and tits, very nice, big, ass. Anal, DFK, digits, and CIM included. Very nice session.

210 Rua Uruguaiana 45/15, 55/20, 80/30, 90/40, 140/60 (can extend session by paying difference between the shorter and longer session).

First night of my arrival, I went to Rua the Quintanda 81, where I had two nice girls in November, but no one interested me, so went to 119 Rua the Alfandega (which is owned by the same people as Rua the Quintanda 81 and, as I discovered later, 210 Urugaiana). A fairly attractive black girl set her sights on me and spent so much time grinding me trying to get me to go to the room with her that I finally went with her just to end it. Session turned out OK.

Next night I went back to see who else might be there and saw a slim, pretty blonde, but she was with a guy all the time I was there so I gave up waiting for her and went to 210 Rua Uruguaiana. Lots of girls, some fatties and uggos, but about 5-6 surprisingly attractive ones (a couple of which I sessioned with), especially a slim blonde (Alicia) who was with this black guy the whole time I was there but never went to the room with him. Around midnight, the blonde and some other girls from 119 Rua the Alfandega showed up, so Rua Uruguaiana seems to be the late night spot for some of the girls at 119. Went with the blonde that showed up from 119 for 40 minutes and had a very nice session (could not repeat as she left for her home town the next day).

Alicia, blonde, 21, very pretty, slim, flat hard stomach, perfect small be tits, small squeezable ass.

Went back late on Monday night and Alicia was there again but was busy dancing and hanging out with the other girls. Finally had the room assignment guy call her over to chat with me. After some chit chat asked her about her services. Was told no kissing, no anal, only CBJ. Somewhat disappointed with this, but still wanting to fuck her, I went with her for a 20 minute session. Session was very nice and GFE despite no kissing (she was more of a neck nuzzler) and I really enjoyed her body next to mine.

Went back the next night and had a 40 minute session with her, which was even better, with her being very affectionate and caring, and my having a relaxed, comfortable feeling just lying there, her on top of me with my dick in her pussy, nuzzling my neck, and with my arms wrapped around her or massaging her ass. Since I had not been impressed with the talent at Cancun and 4 x4 in November (Alicia being as good as or better than the termas girls at less than 1/2 the price), I could get my porn fix (anal, BBBJ, CIM) at prives during the day, and I really liked her body and sweetness, I basically decided to end my weekday nights with a session with her, and thus had a total of 10 sessions with her, each getting better as she got more comfortable with me. If you want an excellent evening session (even with her service limitations) with a really sweet girl with a slamming, slim body at a very reasonable price, I highly recommend Alicia (although she will be gone this week and next week to recuperate from sinus surgery).

One tip to get the girls and receptionists to really like you showing up is to bring some candy from overseas. I brought some chocolate bars I got in Germany and some bags of chocolate covered nuts from Costco and would give out some to the girl I went with, who would then share them with the other girls there. They really loved the chocolate and would eagerly ask when I showed up if I had brought some more, which I always did.

Hey amigos,

Nnew to the Forum but not to the game.

Hit VM the other night, I believe it was a Tuesday.

I've grown fond of the place, though it's certainly not for everyone.

I've made my share of friendships with some girls there, over time, as well.

The usual fare of garotas, from butt fugly to pretty damn hot, with the majority of the girls somewhere in between.

The point of this post is actually a heads up to guys.

While in a room with a garota the other night, a cute one I've never seen before, I caught her trying to rifle through my belongings to rob me.

I called her out on it, she denied it, though I caught her red handed.

Funny though, I was pretty horny and she was hot, so I still did the deal. Afterwards though, I badgered her to she finally admitted of her attempted thievery, and then she cried.

And begged me not to tell the dude in charge of her little bar area.

Keep alert guys, I know it's obvious to say, but they can be tricky in their thievery.

Sith Lord Vader Cartman has grown authoritarian now in his 6th straight year of whoring in Rio.

Soldier has sent jihadis to their 72 virgins, lacking dicks entao, welcome, I offer my private reserve by email and zap.

Send us your whatsapp to ho with the pretinha attached; pretinha, such a nice Portuguese word, avoiding a pejorative, and with it stupid arguments.

Sith corrupted Jedi Cartman is right, obi wan Patmarbeleza pores over gpguia like grunts pores over buttman mags in the desert combat jacking.

GPguia may be an offensive information operations weapon too.

The best ones are from prives, 18 yo, new to business, they become pernoites at 400 r, 6 days a week; 18 yo morena clara anal.

Cartman Vader, we'll meet again; we should buy Soldier a working girl for sending jihadis to virgins without their balls; thereafter, intergalactic war again.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834718]First of all, I've never said fuck you Cartman I will do what I want. It's not my style. You have valuable insight and guidance and I consider it before I make my decisions just like I consider other people's opinions and advice too. I then however make up my own course of action. I've never even argued with you or said you are wrong because you really aren't. I just choose to walk my own path in life.

Second of all if you bothered to read the subsequent reports I paid 300/400/350/350 so quite in line with market rates.[/QUOTE]

Pretinha, pictures 2 of 3.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834700] For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10. So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.


Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to get Trump to give up the comb-over. "Your reasoned argument and clever Facebook posts have convinced me to change my opinion" -- said nobody on the internet *ever.*

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]WhatsApp is one of the best apps every created. I use it with friends at home and GDP abroad. All the girls use it. I even noticed they all used it on a recent trip to Amsterdam. All the window girls were communicating. Anyways, thanks to guys like Cartman who have the local knowledge we all wish we had and are willing to share. I will be down next month but won't make it to Rio. I would love to meet you guys one day. Either way you look at it, this site is incredibly valuable. Keep up the good work gents.

After today propably no privê will open before earliest Wednesday at noon. Wednesday will be a bad privê-day. Many girls will be missing work and many mongers will visit the privées to get laid.
The coming days are perfect days going for regular girls.

P.S Don't miss the largest bloco in centro tomorrow, Bola Preta. About one million people partying, dancing, drinking, pissing, pushing and fighting in the streets. Leave nothing in your pockets. Put everything inside your underwear and you'll be fine.

P.P.S Be careful on the buses when sitting next to the windows. I've seen several robberies lately. When the bus stops at a red light a guy jumps up to the bus windows and snatches bags and phones.

P.P.S My guess about this years Carnival hit is Metralhadora:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzCoZGsod0c8[/url]

Happy Carnival to everybody!

You are right on the mark!

Thanks for sharing. I wish hundreds of other guys would pay attention. Life would be better for all of us fuckers.

I remember this one guy I met in Rio (back in 2008) who was paying 400 reals for TLN. I was telling him I only pay 150 to 200 max for all night. And I showed him and introduced him to a few of the girls that I already had for that price. He just didn't care because he was on vacation for a week. Whats worse, he claimed that he negotiates contracts for work on a daily basis! So I don't really understand WTF was wrong with him other than the fact that he probably can't get ass back home.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834700] ...
Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it. Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.
But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc). I'm not saying only pay BRL 70 for girls you pull out of VM. I'm trying to orient you to the market and not overpay -- you're certainly welcome to pay less.
I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board. You are helping (at best) only yourself.
I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years ....
-Cartman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;1834791]Hey amigos,

Nnew to the Forum but not to the game.

Hit VM the other night, I believe it was a Tuesday.

I've grown fond of the place, though it's certainly not for everyone.

I've made my share of friendships with some girls there, over time, as well.

The usual fare of garotas, from butt fugly to pretty damn hot, with the majority of the girls somewhere in between.

The point of this post is actually a heads up to guys.

While in a room with a garota the other night, a cute one I've never seen before, I caught her trying to rifle through my belongings to rob me.

I called her out on it, she denied it, though I caught her red handed.

Funny though, I was pretty horny and she was hot, so I still did the deal. Afterwards though, I badgered her to she finally admitted of her attempted thievery, and then she cried.

And begged me not to tell the dude in charge of her little bar area.

Keep alert guys, I know it's obvious to say, but they can be tricky in their thievery.[/QUOTE]Yes I've stated this before! I know a couple of thieves amongst the gdps there-I will get names.

I keep my shorts around my ankles-don't take everything off! This is VM. Someone can pop in and snatch shit-some of the doors have no lock left! LOL.

I had to get an Iphone 6 back for a norwegian tourist friend who was careless. It cost 100 reais in the end. Down from 1000. Shit got very heavy but its been worse there! Still love it-always have more joy on the righ side of the front line road as opposed to the alleyways.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1835031]After today propably no priv will open before earliest Wednesday at noon. Wednesday will be a bad priv-day. Many girls will be missing work and many mongers will visit the prives to get laid.
The coming days are perfect days going for regular girls.

P.S Don't miss the largest bloco in centro tomorrow, Bola Preta. About one million people partying, dancing, drinking, pissing, pushing and fighting in the streets. Leave nothing in your pockets. Put everything inside your underwear and you'll be fine.

P.P.S Be careful on the buses when sitting next to the windows. I've seen several robberies lately. When the bus stops at a red light a guy jumps up to the bus windows and snatches bags and phones.

P.P.S My guess about this years Carnival hit is Metralhadora:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzCoZGsod0c8[/url]

Happy Carnival to everybody![/QUOTE]Hell yeah-there are so many girls at bloccos everyone will have a chance.

Hey guys, yall don't know me yet, but I've been lurking on these boards doing research for my upcoming Brazil experience. I'll be there 3/2-3/23. I'm not new to ISG, as you can see from my post count. I'm also active on the Argentina boards under a similar user nm.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1834786]Spent 3 weeks in Rio in January. Alicia, blonde, 21, very pretty, slim, flat hard stomach, perfect small be tits, small squeezable ass.
[/QUOTE]I'm jealous soooo bad! Great catch, my friend hehe.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1834700]Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. [/QUOTE]Yes sir, its MY hot body, and I'll do what I want. Which is to listen to your sage advice good sir. As somebody who has yet to go to Brazil, thank you so much for that post. You help to clear the path for your brothers behind you.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1835044] I was telling him I only pay 150 to 200 max for all night. And I showed him and introduced him to a few of the girls that I already had for that price. He just didn't care because he was on vacation for a week. Whats worse, he claimed that he negotiates contracts for work on a daily basis! So I don't really understand WTF was wrong with him other than the fact that he probably can't get ass back home.[/QUOTE]From my observations there are a number of inter-related factors behind this. Its not complicated, but it is complex.

So I have a question for my forum brothers. Is there anywhere else worth going to other than Rio, or should I just spend my entire 3 week stay on Ipanema? Outside of sexin' in the bedroomz wif strange wimmin, I want to surf, yoga, and indulge café culture on the beach. The other amazing experiences Brazil has to offer are probably better enjoyed with company, if I can find someone to share long term time with. What other places have sex, surf, yoga, and restaurant culture? Should I even bother with anywhere else? Help!

The more I read on this forum the more I understand when friends tell me better not to share too much detailed info on this forum.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1834884]Pretinha, pictures 2 of 3.[/QUOTE]Very nice Patmar!

Thanks for the photos!

Bom trabalho!

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834626]I've said that to many guys in Colombia before but now I think more about it I am starting to change my mind. Sure I prefer to pay after but I don't sweat it now. This is a trip to Brasil for me not a Brasilian vacation. The difference is I'm not here for 7 days and then going back to the States to work. 90% of my life is a vacation. Last 6 months I've taken two trips to Thailand / Philippines, 2 to Brasil and 6 to Colombia. So if I have a bad session or two because I paid up front it's not a big deal like it is for some guy here for a week and then 6 months back in sexual purgatory.

I've paid in advance and gotten bad service and I've paid in advance twice this trip and got fucked crazy porn style. I've paid after and gotten bad service before as well as paying after and getting great service. For me paying before or after isn't making much of a difference.

And what's your play if you are a pay after guy and she was below average? Not pay her? Pay her less than the agreed on fee? Then what? She's immediately on the phone threatening to call the police, security, her pimp etc. Then just to avoid the attention of the police you pay her the agreed on fee to get the fuck out of your room and life.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way. My buddy who is a 10 Year Monger vet and goes on South America Trips 2 x every month gets pissed when I tell him there were times when I paid up front. Yes I understand most don't get money up front. But I do understand why they would want it upfront. They are giving up their bodies to someone they know 5 minutes. The first time I didn't pay up front the girl got pissed and thought I didn't have it. We then compromised and I pulled the money out and set it on the dresser to take "after" sex. I would say in Rio only 1-2 girls out of 10 ask for it anyways. And when this has happened and I've given them the money they are very happy to see that wad that's more than most make in a month. When I have paid up front the experience has been kick ass. The last girl I was with in Colombia was on par with a supermodel and one of the best all time lays ever (see last field report). She asked for the money up front. I paid her for 2 hours -she stayed for 4 hours and fucked my brains out and would of stayed the night but I wanted to sleep and kicked her out. Do you think that would of happened if I said "no"? Well with me probably because I'm ridiculously good looking. So unfair question but you get my drift. I think many times the experience you actually have comes down to the chemistry and attraction that is created regardless of when you pay. Think about it. Your a hooker and walk in and see some old fart out of shape safado who has zero charisma or charm. Your going to want the money up front too so at least you can feel happy about something before you let that Viejo stick it in you! I think ultimately one should make a judgment call. Feel her out first. If she asks then make the call. Like my man says here. "What are you going to do -short change her for performance and then let her make a scene and call the cops"? Will her performance "really improve" by holding back? If she doesn't like you it won't matter and she will be out of there in 59 minutes anyways.

She was the first girl after all these years that squirted upon orgasm while I was licking her pussy, which is a new sensation!

Soldierb11 and I mongered over to Solarium after hanging at Leme beach yesterday with local wingmen; got two numbers out of 4 attempts; the force is strong.

Solarium generally sucks in performance though. Last year I banged Brenda, my only terma girl in the whole year of 2015 that I went upstairs with, and she turned out to be pretty bad in performance after maybe one good session in the terma; another loira with huge double the tits from Solarium was about the most boring bang at the apartment, though watching her walk around naked was nice scenery.

Went over to Bloco in Ipanema afterwards with a local wingman, nice to see carioca couples together after 13 years, and what real 33 year olds do, IE hook up with real 31 year old non pros with banging bodies; blocs are great fun, and the whole city is in a party atmosphere. Even at the pool in the apartment, everyone is pretty happy.

Sith Jedi Cartman fighting an injection of Zika from Princess Kamila sits in his copacabana deck, alone, writing constitutions while Obi Wan leads the rebels to climax!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1835129]Very nice Patmar!

Thanks for the photos!

Bom trabalho![/QUOTE]

For the Capt sav-a- hos.

No matter what you say, it's understood that you pay after. If she doesn't want to work, next. Go find another one. When I am in Rio, or Colombia, or Asia, I always pay after. And yes, when the girl reneges on the deal, I have held back some money. I had one girl in Rio back 2007 or 08, that I knew for at least a year. She had always been around but I never took her. One night we went out for drinks. Then we agreed to all night and sex in the morning before she leaves. We went drinking and all that jazz. Got back and had decent sex. She woke up a few hours later, must have been about 8 am and she HAD to leave. Yeah right. I said I need my morning sex, that's why you stayed here overnight. She said she had to go. OK. Here is 100 reals. Bye bye. Oh no, its 200! No, now its 100. You owe me another fuck. You agreed to sex at night and in the morning before going home. She says, that she will come back in a few hours. OK. Go and come back. When you come back and give me some more sex, I will give you another 100 R. She was all pissed (because she couldn't get over on me), but she got the hell out.

Funny thing after that. She calls me after 2 days asking for 100 R. Sure come give me another round like you promised me and I will give it to you.

Few more days pass and I see her at Meia Pataca, and she is acting all pissy and talking shit with her friends. I told a few of her friends, who I also knew from previous visits, what happened. They agreed with me. Why, because they about me and whole bunch of my other buddies. They knew that I have never had a problem and would always take care of the girls. Plus it was obvious knew that the girl in question was WRONG.

When you run into this crap, you have 3 choices. You can pay up front (maybe you will get lucky), show her the money, or show her the door.

IMO, Showing her the funds is the best alternative if you want (or need) to fuck right now. Then if she is not cool with that, then she is leaving with only taxi money.

[QUOTE=MikeysHouse;1835315]I feel the same way. My buddy who is a 10 Year Monger vet and goes on South America Trips 2 x every month gets pissed when I tell him there were times when I paid up front. Yes I understand most don't get money up front. But I do understand why they would want it upfront. They are giving up their bodies to someone they know 5 minutes. The first time I didn't pay up front the girl got pissed and thought I didn't have it. We then compromised and I pulled the money out and set it on the dresser to take "after" sex. I would say in Rio only 1-2 girls out of 10 ask for it anyways. And when this has happened and I've given them the money they are very happy to see that wad that's more than most make in a month. When I have paid up front the experience has been kick ass. The last girl I was with in Colombia was on par with a supermodel and one of the best all time lays ever (see last field report). She asked for the money up front. I paid her for 2 hours -she stayed for 4 hours and fucked my brains out and would of stayed the night but I wanted to sleep and kicked her out. Do you think that would of happened if I said "no"? Well with me probably because I'm ridiculously good looking. So unfair question but you get my drift. I think many times the experience you actually have comes down to the chemistry and attraction that is created regardless of when you pay. Think about it. Your a hooker and walk in and see some old fart out of shape safado who has zero charisma or charm. Your going to want the money up front too so at least you can feel happy about something before you let that Viejo stick it in you! I think ultimately one should make a judgment call. Feel her out first. If she asks then make the call. Like my man says here. "What are you going to do -short change her for performance and then let her make a scene and call the cops"? Will her performance "really improve" by holding back? If she doesn't like you it won't matter and she will be out of there in 59 minutes anyways.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1834626]I've paid in advance and gotten bad service and I've paid in advance twice this trip and got fucked crazy porn style. I've paid after and gotten bad service before as well as paying after and getting great service. For me paying before or after isn't making much of a difference.

And what's your play if you are a pay after guy and she was below average? Not pay her? Pay her less than the agreed on fee? Then what? She's immediately on the phone threatening to call the police, security, her pimp etc. Then just to avoid the attention of the police you pay her the agreed on fee to get the fuck out of your room and life.[/QUOTE]As a general rule, I don't like to pay upfront. It's the principle of the thing. I mean, in "real life" how often do we pay upfront for personal services? Services are to be satisfactorily rendered, and then the customer pays. So why should things necessarily be different when dealing with a tute? In my view, they shouldn't be. Not at all. But Soldier Boy, I must concur that you make and draw some very astute observations and conclusions that get to the very heart and practicality of the matter.

Now the truth be told, in virtually every instance where I may have paid upfront (rarely), things have turned out fine and I've been quite satisfied with the outcome (not all of the time but virtually 100% of the time). But as you so adroitly note, the exact same thing can be said for paying afterwards! In other words, this all works the same both ways. At least it has for me. When I've paid afterwards (routinely), things typically have been fine and I've been satisfied with the outcome virtually all of the time, but not 100% of the time. Exact same result as on those rare occasions when I paid upfront! So why do people get all amped up over this subject then if outcomes typically are equivalent when paying for sexual services upfront versus afterwards (again this has been my personal experience)?

Well, because there's always that ingrained resistance to paying for most anything upfront. From a haircut to some cunny! You see, most of us have been taught from a very early age about "caveat emptor". Let the buyer beware being ripped off and burned by foolishly parting with his cash to acquire something, whatever it is! So, that resistance impulse to paying upfront for goods and services is nurtured into us when very young and becomes a "natural" part of who we are as human beings and consumers over time. And with good reason too I might add. After all, there are far too many crooked people in this world. So, even if things are more likely than not to turn out fine when making a "transaction", why take unreasonable chances that expose you to getting little or nothing for your money? Right? Save that for playing the lottery LOL!

I guess what I'm saying is that I see where you're coming from, and what you say holds much logical and practical validity. But I see the other side of this debate too, which also holds water. As I tend to be less trusting of people (they've given me plenty of reason over the years not to trust), I still will always prefer not to pay upfront, and will stick to not doing that as much as possible. Regardless, you are an analytical and thoughtful man Soldier Boy who is capable of grasping and acknowledging the reality and practicality of the facts as they present themselves. Soldier on with your good reporting!

Fantasypimpleague.

Jedi Patmarbeleza and soldier boy have a working girl wars idea. To be added, PM me.

Sith Cartman attempts to stop us, weakly complaining impotently whining.

Pictures not words vader you are grown pathetic and officious, get laid, and send pics not of your palm hahahahaha.

[QUOTE=MikeysHouse;1835315]I feel the same way. My buddy who is a 10 Year Monger vet and goes on South America Trips 2 x every month gets pissed when I tell him there were times when I paid up front. Yes I understand most don't get money up front. But I do understand why they would want it upfront. They are giving up their bodies to someone they know 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]When you go to work does your boss pay you up front? That is the quickest way to get someone NOT to work. Shit I got my money now I can lazy the day away. When a person is looking forward to getting paid they will put forth more effort working toward that pot of gold.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1835399]Now the truth be told, in virtually every instance where I may have paid upfront (rarely), things have turned out fine and I've been quite satisfied with the outcome (not all of the time but virtually 100% of the time). But as you so adroitly note, the exact same thing can be said for paying afterwards! In other words, this all works the same both ways. At least it has for me. When I've paid afterwards (routinely), things typically have been fine and I've been satisfied with the outcome virtually all of the time, but not 100% of the time. Exact same result as on those rare occasions when I paid upfront! So why do people get all amped up over this subject then if outcomes typically are equivalent when paying for sexual services upfront versus afterwards (again this has been my personal experience)?[/QUOTE]You left out a very important part of the puzzle: setting. WHERE you are getting the service from makes a hell of a difference. If it is a random street chick or VM girl then paying up front you are more likely to get a raw deal. But if you are in a reputable establishment such as a termas or privee your chances of getting fucked over in a bad way after paying up front exponentially lessen. Even at places like VM when you pay the money goes to the house, and the house holds the money and pays the girl after the workday is over. This way the girl sticks around. If not, the money would likely burn a hole in the girl's hand and she couldn't wait to get out of there to spend it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1835688]When you go to work does your boss pay you up front? That is the quickest way to get someone NOT to work. Shit I got my money now I can lazy the day away. When a person is looking forward to getting paid they will put forth more effort working toward that pot of gold.

You left out a very important part of the puzzle: setting. WHERE you are getting the service from makes a hell of a difference. If it is a random street chick or VM girl then paying up front you are more likely to get a raw deal. But if you are in a reputable establishment such as a termas or privee your chances of getting fucked over in a bad way after paying up front exponentially lessen. Even at places like VM when you pay the money goes to the house, and the house holds the money and pays the girl after the workday is over. This way the girl sticks around. If not, the money would likely burn a hole in the girl's hand and she couldn't wait to get out of there to spend it.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls at VM get their share when you pay the house!

Where you have a bit of leverage is if she refuses BBBJ / CIM and you can show a cash incentive in the so-called rooms there!

Once after hittin 2 out there I went for round 3 in my drunken state and found negra gostosa but she refused BBBJ / CIM so I showed her 50 reais and she sucked furiously for 45 minutes with newfound enthusiasm!

Just one experience.

I know this is the oldest "controversy" in the monger world but one thing you're not taking into account is the point of view and experiences of the working girl. Almost every single girl has had a nightmare experience with a flaky and / or creepy guy who pays less or nothing than what was agreed on. These kinds of stories also get around fast on the chica network and scare the girls.

It's true that in the normal economic world, we pay after the service is rendered, although there are many exceptions. Plus, it's just plain unrealistic and silly to think that paying for sex is exactly like paying for a hair cut or restaurant meal (examples I've actually read here in the past).

For example, that airline that got you down to Brazil, if the flight was late and misrouted your luggage, you still paid in advance and didn't get anything back for the lousy service.

So the guy doesn't want a lousy lay or get short-timed; and the girl doesn't want to get cheated out of her money. Both sides grapple for the psychological advantage. How to get out of this quandary?

First off, with the agencies and escorts, these girls almost always ask in advance but don't often cheat you because otherwise, they start getting a bad rep (gpguia, etc.). Also I suspect the people who run the agencies strictly train the girls to get the money first.

For you guys out there reading this who are successful in business, if you were running an escort agency, after dealing with a couple of angry girls who didn't get paid (if she didn't get anything, you don't get anything), you'd be training your girls as well to get paid first.

Freelancers working in clubs and bars are a different story. Be careful paying in advance; if you do, more often than not you'll get mediocre service or worse.

Anyway if a chica asks to get paid in advance, I usually now give a short spiel about respect and trust and how I live that way and expect the people I work and deal with to live that way as well. I show her the money, put something on top of it not too heavy, and tell her it's hers once she completes her promise. Then I get her to say she promises to do what we agreed.

If she has any trouble saying it or agreeing, insists on putting the money in her bag, I ask her to leave (after paying her a small go-away fee). Sometimes, they change their mind and get with the program, and it works out OK (or even great). For other girls, it's an ego thing; they'll actually walk away with less money to pretend they're still superior to you in some way. This type can also have serious trust and hatred issues with men in general.

Some girls are sociopath liars, they have no problem promising anything and then totally renege on it. I don't know what the answer is for these types, these girls will lie and betray even the closest family if they had to.

But your average working girl is just a bit flaky and lazy. I'm surprised though that with this type, just getting them to say that they promise to keep their end, makes them a bit less flaky. It's like a little magic (psychology really) that usually works on this personality type.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational]You left out a very important part of the puzzle: setting. WHERE you are getting the service from makes a hell of a difference. If it is a random street chick or VM girl then paying up front you are more likely to get a raw deal. But if you are in a reputable establishment such as a termas or privee your chances of getting fucked over in a bad way after paying up front exponentially lessen.[/QUOTE]Yes, the "where" is extremely important. I thought about that as I was writing but left it out since my post was already long enough, and given the fact that the point you raise should be obvious common sense. As for me, I only patronize reputable establishments. I don't deal with random street tutes or VM hood rat types ever! So whatever their "swindle" might be doesn't concern me because those types will never have a shot at my wallet. I don't seek or want their services. Those guys who do need to be extra careful yes.

I got burned one time paying upfront in 2008 and I vowed to never do it again. Here's the deal, without a doubt it is customary in Rio for the girls to get paid afterward. EVERY GDP there knows that and if she says she doesn't then she's lying. If she asks for money upfront the likelyhood of her being trouble down the line skyrocket. I always kick them out if they even ask upfront even if they relent and agree to take it afterward. Just the fact that she even tried that bullshit says to me that she's running a game that I want no part of. I tell them we're done and I show them the door. Here's the bottom line, if she asks you for anything upfront then she's saying to you,"I think you're a fuckin idiot and you might just give it to me". I'll pass.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1835812]I got burned one time paying upfront in 2008 and I vowed to never do it again. Here's the deal, without a doubt it is customary in Rio for the girls to get paid afterward. EVERY GDP there knows that and if she says she doesn't then she's lying. If she asks for money upfront the likelyhood of her being trouble down the line skyrocket. I always kick them out if they even ask upfront even if they relent and agree to take it afterward. Just the fact that she even tried that bullshit says to me that she's running a game that I want no part of. I tell them we're done and I show them the door. Here's the bottom line, if she asks you for anything upfront then she's saying to you,"I think you're a fuckin idiot and you might just give it to me". I'll pass.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct. Too many women in Rio to get suckered. Just see them to the door and hold the HARD for the next one.

Lonzof.

[QUOTE=Phunluv;1835749]I know this is the oldest "controversy" in the monger world but one thing you're not taking into account is the point of view and experiences of the working girl. Almost every single girl has had a nightmare experience with a flaky and / or creepy guy who pays less or nothing than what was agreed on.[/QUOTE]Actually, the oldest "controversy" would be paying too much, followed closely by paying too much upfront hahaha! And I for one absolutely do take the point of view of the providers into account. But what about all the honest mongers out here? Almost every single one of us has had at least one nightmare experience too! And prostitution is absolutely much more like getting a haircut than it is shipping your luggage with an airline, since it's a "personal" service. Getting a haircut, a massage, a pedicure. Getting your pipes cleaned is "personal" to you the "consumer" just like getting your teeth cleaned is! Paying for sex is paying for a personal service, and it absolutely is not common practice (at least where I come from) to pay for personal services upfront! Maybe the guy before me ripped the tute off, but I'm not that guy and will not accept being treated with disrespect by having to pay for what he did! It's like the antidote to racism. Judge me as an individual based on the content of my personal character and my personal character alone. The bottom line is that it's our money, not theirs. And despite what some may think, it's money that makes the world go around, and not pussy!

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1835812]I got burned one time paying upfront in 2008 and I vowed to never do it again. Here's the deal, without a doubt it is customary in Rio for the girls to get paid afterward. EVERY GDP there knows that and if she says she doesn't then she's lying. If she asks for money upfront the likelyhood of her being trouble down the line skyrocket. I always kick them out if they even ask upfront even if they relent and agree to take it afterward. Just the fact that she even tried that bullshit says to me that she's running a game that I want no part of. I tell them we're done and I show them the door. Here's the bottom line, if she asks you for anything upfront then she's saying to you,"I think you're a fuckin idiot and you might just give it to me". I'll pass.[/QUOTE]When I'm in a 3rd Country like Brazil Rio, There is no way I can pay a working girl up front. If she ask for money up front, I will kick her out and just look for the next girl, The only place where I paid a working girl upfront is in the USA. I can understand if a escort in the United States where technically its illegal for you to be selling your body. So she has to ask for money upfront, to avoid scams, or guys that will run out as if your a escort. You cannot run to the police, because its illegal.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1835993]When I'm in a 3rd Country like Brazil Rio, There is no way I can pay a working girl up front. If she ask for money up front, I will kick her out and just look for the next girl, The only place where I paid a working girl upfront is in the USA. I can understand if a escort in the United States where technically its illegal for you to be selling your body. So she has to ask for money upfront, to avoid scams, or guys that will run out as if your a escort. You cannot run to the police, because its illegal.[/QUOTE]Well said and great logic. Over the years, I've learned to never pay upfront. If the girls pushes the issue, I show her the door.

Amazing, the Carnival in Rio is going on and all the reports in the Rio de Janeiro thread on the last 3 pages are about paying upfront or not.

Paying upfront is not a big problem, those girls also have bad experience with some clients I always pay upfront when we are in the room I've never had bad experience you just have to be clear about what you want, many girls I went with they wanted to stay more I wanted them to leave when I pay a girl I just want to fuck her until I'm tired then I go back home.

Don't forget you will be alone with the girl in the room, just show her you are not a jerk but also not an idiot, show the clock before starting, ask her which service is included, if it all night just be precise what time you want her to leave because morning means many things, 6 am, 7 am, 8 am, 9 am 10 am.

I never dealt with street or VM girls most them are ugly only few are average.

There are many services you have to pay upfront, hotel, monthly rent, plane ticket, entrance to the night clubs, train ticket, takeaway food, supermarket, technology products (phone, computer, TV etc) internet, gas, water, subscription, season ticket, entrance to the museum, park, school, university, etc.

Prostitution is not illegal in Brazil but it is also not recognized so if there are some trouble those girls can't do anything because the police doesn't care because those girls don't pay any tax it is not because it is illegal in the USA girls can ask upfront payment even in the USA prostitutes rip off and steal.

In Brazil the police just cares about people that pay.

Had a buddy come into town, and he wanted to check out Mabs and Barbarela.

Not normally my thing, but went along anyway.

I actually had never been to Barbarelas, so I though, WTF, I'll check it out.

Mabs cracks me up really.

More so the guys there than the girls really. No offense to any Mabs regulars here.

There are really some strange characters that hang there.

While there at Mabs, I went inside the restroom, there was a fairly hot blonde girl nearby, so of course I was checking her out visually, when a total unkept, loud, obese goon pops up to me and says, "Sorry fella, she's mine, taken".

I said, "Congratulations, I'm sure she's thrilled", LOL.

The girl had that, my life sucks, look on her face.

Anyway, as most guys know already, Mabs is a mostly gringo hangout, with mostly either over the hill, around the block a gazillion times, type garotas hanging about, Yes, with an occasional hottie that pops in.

Didn't like it the first time I went, I like it even less now, LOL.

More on Barbarrlas later.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1836212]Amazing, the Carnival in Rio is going on and all the reports in the Rio de Janeiro thread on the last 3 pages are about paying upfront or not.[/QUOTE]There are those who do and those who talk. Certainly being in the first group is more fun than being part of the latter.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1836212]Amazing, the Carnival in Rio is going on and all the reports in the Rio de Janeiro thread on the last 3 pages are about paying upfront or not.[/QUOTE]Maybe most people either got out of Rio or didn't come so as to avoid the high prices and ripoffs during Carnival. Besides, aren't the prives and termas closed during this period, so why hang around?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1836447]Maybe most people either got out of Rio or didn't come so as to avoid the high prices and ripoffs during Carnival. Besides, aren't the prives and termas closed during this period, so why hang around?[/QUOTE]
Considering the large amounts of gringos in Rio now there should be some good reports. Why hang around in Rio when the brothels are closed? Maybe because there is the largest party in the world going on in Rio. If somebody isn't interested or capable of going for regular girls there are lots of working girls along the orla in Copacabana. Regarding prices, the Carnival days are the days when I spend less money. Mainly just costs for beer and food.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1836501]Snip. Regarding prices, the Carnival days are the days when I spend less money. Mainly just costs for beer and food.[/QUOTE]Hotel and apartment prices are through the roof during Carnival if you don't live there, are they not, even if free pussy is easier to get? Also, how many of those gringos are ISG members and not just tourists?

First, people take themselves too seriously on a board for sex. Hence, my running feud with Sith Vader Cartman, who is a friend and wingman. But for the life of me, I can't understand why 3 pages get filled up with whether to pay upfront, when all that needs be said is don't.

Carnaval sucks from my perspective. It's hot. Most of the girls are unavailable. The ones that are, like at Solarium, are not happy because they're tied up working during carnaval.

Of course, I got a girl, that pretinha; and the day before a few pretinhas from VM with local wingmen. Most of my regulars are traveling or partying (not with me).

Generally, it kind of sucks. I am waiting for things to settle out to a more normal routine. I've got a nice apartment, and I like the pernoites, 3 - 6 times a week with hot new younger (18,19 yo) girls mostly from prives.

The Brazilians are not happy due to the economy. They pretend to be happy for carnaval, but most don't really get into it. I have a few local wingmen, guys in their 30's, who are great, as they are cariocas. They are unhappy because of no money; and no money, even being Cariocas, no girls, at least not the higher end hos I've been doing.

I've gone to three blocos. The best thing you can do to fit in is to buy a JBL Flip 3 bluetooth speaker, and put it in a bag, something like a 5-11 Tactical Moab6, and play a list of hip hop, 50 cent, jeremih; then you don't need to worry about speaking Portuguese. The blocos are really for Brazilians, singing their Brazilians songs, all of which I imagine go something like, "We have 14% inflation, and negative GDP growth, but we are Brazilian, so we like to be miserable together. " But that's just me. I guess I had a few chances to hook up with drunk women late at night here in Botafogo, girls from the bus stop, or whatever, but I really didn't want to take some girl I didn't know, who was falling down drunk up to my apartment (sex with a really drunk girl just isn't much fun, for me). Last year I had a mini relationship for free with a girl during Carnival, and we did Buzios for half of the party, which was good.

This year has just sucked during carnival. It's hot, muggy. I don't really like the blocos. My wingmen are really broke dudes who don't have anything to offer the women I'm after. I had one of my prive girls meet me at the metro, but she brought a friend who she wanted to have come up to the apartment with her when we banged, and I didn't want that, so we called it off, which pissed me off.

Wish I could say that Carnaval has been a great experience, but quite the opposite. I just hope now that it has passed, things will settle down a little.

The posting about paying up front etc is really overdone. My basic rule is if a girl starts to argue about money, I just block her and move on. I did that just today with a new gaucha, who turns out to be the same one that Soldier reported. Generally, if a girl is arguing about money, it means it is going to suck anyway. There are more than enough girls out there.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1836501]Considering the large amounts of gringos in Rio now there should be some good reports. Why hang around in Rio when the brothels are closed? Maybe because there is the largest party in the world going on in Rio. If somebody isn't interested or capable of going for regular girls there are lots of working girls along the orla in Copacabana. Regarding prices, the Carnival days are the days when I spend less money. Mainly just costs for beer and food.[/QUOTE]Well, Monte Carlo is still open, though it looks like nothing else is. Now that it's Tuesday, will some of the others open? Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Junior;1836291]There are those who do and those who talk. Certainly being in the first group is more fun than being part of the latter.[/QUOTE]And here I was beginning to believe that its because Brazil might just be antipersonalitydisordered as all phuk. :/

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1836578]First, people take themselves too seriously on a board for sex. Hence, my running feud with Sith Vader Cartman, who is a friend and wingman. But for the life of me, I can't understand why 3 pages get filled up with whether to pay upfront, when all that needs be said is don't.

Carnaval sucks from my perspective. It's hot. Most of the girls are unavailable. The ones that are, like at Solarium, are not happy because they're tied up working during carnaval.

Of course, I got a girl, that pretinha; and the day before a few pretinhas from VM with local wingmen. Most of my regulars are traveling or partying (not with me).

Generally, it kind of sucks. I am waiting for things to settle out to a more normal routine. I've got a nice apartment, and I like the pernoites, 3 - 6 times a week with hot new younger (18,19 yo) girls mostly from prives.

The Brazilians are not happy due to the economy. They pretend to be happy for carnaval, but most don't really get into it. I have a few local wingmen, guys in their 30's, who are great, as they are cariocas. They are unhappy because of no money; and no money, even being Cariocas, no girls, at least not the higher end hos I've been doing.

I've gone to three blocos. The best thing you can do to fit in is to buy a JBL Flip 3 bluetooth speaker, and put it in a bag, something like a 5-11 Tactical Moab6, and play a list of hip hop, 50 cent, jeremih; then you don't need to worry about speaking Portuguese. The blocos are really for Brazilians, singing their Brazilians songs, all of which I imagine go something like, "We have 14% inflation, and negative GDP growth, but we are Brazilian, so we like to be miserable together. " But that's just me. I guess I had a few chances to hook up with drunk women late at night here in Botafogo, girls from the bus stop, or whatever, but I really didn't want to take some girl I didn't know, who was falling down drunk up to my apartment (sex with a really drunk girl just isn't much fun, for me). Last year I had a mini relationship for free with a girl during Carnival, and we did Buzios for half of the party, which was good.

This year has just sucked during carnival. It's hot, muggy. I don't really like the blocos. My wingmen are really broke dudes who don't have anything to offer the women I'm after. I had one of my prive girls meet me at the metro, but she brought a friend who she wanted to have come up to the apartment with her when we banged, and I didn't want that, so we called it off, which pissed me off.

Wish I could say that Carnaval has been a great experience, but quite the opposite. I just hope now that it has passed, things will settle down a little.

The posting about paying up front etc is really overdone. My basic rule is if a girl starts to argue about money, I just block her and move on. I did that just today with a new gaucha, who turns out to be the same one that Soldier reported. Generally, if a girl is arguing about money, it means it is going to suck anyway. There are more than enough girls out there.[/QUOTE]I have my own carnival for 2 (or 3) everytime I'm in Rio. The real one is claustrophobic and I prefer to come when its over and the everyday routine is back.

No more Carnival tourists and the opportunists who came for that have retreated.

Looking forward to diving into the dark with PatmarB and King Cartman as we've been contributing side by side for quite some time.

Visiting Rio from NY, mainly came for Carnaval. Pre Carnaval enjoyed a hot masuist from Delirio Oriental. After that was just having fun with the Blocos and the whole Carnaval experience. Today I wanted to do some mongering and hit up 5 massage places, they were all closed. Didn't realize Mardi Gras was going to shut down the city! Any suggestion where a guy can get some action around here today? Haven't been to Mabs or Barbarella yet, are those the only bars with possible action? Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1836578]

Carnaval sucks from my perspective. It's hot. Most of the girls are unavailable. The ones that are, like at Solarium, are not happy because they're tied up working during carnaval.

Generally, it kind of sucks. I am waiting for things to settle out to a more normal routine. I've got a nice apartment, and I like the pernoites, 3 - 6 times a week with hot new younger (18,19 yo) girls mostly from prives..[/QUOTE]I totally agree PB1!

Look forward to arriving again on Friday, post Caranaval weekend!

After checking out Mabs for a bit with my buddy, he wanted to go check out Barbarellas.

I've been hanging in Rio for about a year now, and still hadn't been there, as I'm much more of a diamond in the rough seeker at lower end joints.

Anyway, we walk over from Mabs, get a table, and check out the scene.

It's about 1130 pm on a Saturday.

My first impression is, way too much falseness and plastic, and I really don't see any girl that attracts me.

It's like a Mabs quality plus one, maybe.

There"s probably about 30 girls in there.

As I sit there and sip on a caipirinha, a few girls approach me to talk, none of them I'd even consider if they were free of charge, LOL.

I shoo them away.

I finally spot a sexy garota that I'm attracted to. Nice!

I wave her over, she comes and sits down, we chat, I get her a drink, which was actually my second drink that comes from my 80 are entrance.

She's cool and nice, pretty, from Minas Gerais.

I tell her that I normally don't come here and ask what price is she looking for if I take her out.

She replies that 500 are is her normal price and she'll stay at least a couple hours and all night if she's feeling the love.

I nod and continue to jibber jabber and joke with her casually, while also help translating for my buddy.

My buddy finally decides on a girl and leaves with her.

I was going to split and catch a cab to VM, but since I liked this chick, I offered her 300 are to come to place to hang and sleep till morning.

She said OK.

I was happy, she was happy.

So I thought anyway.

She goes to tell her amiga working there that she"s going to leave with me, and when she comes back, she says her amiga told her some other guy wanted her and was willing to pay her 1000 are to leave with him instead.

She said she'd rather stay with me, but that was good money, and I could match if I wanted, blah, blah, blah.

I told her, that's great, I'm happy for you, go with him. Ate mais!

I usually read these girls well, I thought I had her digging me, however, I was fooled.

So I pay my bill, I see it's about 1 am, a get a second wind, I'm going to hit VM after all.

Now get this, as I'm about to leave, she comes zipping up to me and says, hey that other guy was lying, he"s not going to leave with her, and now she'll take the 300 are deal with me, hahaha.

I say "Tarde demais baby", "Too late baby", with a smile, and wish her luck.

I'm off to VM to find me a mulatinha!

(most likely never to enter Barbarellas again).

[URL]http://www.agenciafelinas.com.br/html/yasminsoares.htm[/URL]

So, I took one for the team, and tried this agency. Verdict: good bang for the buck.

Went to Malaga (73 r, for 4 hours), and whatsapped this agency. The deal on the site is $170 r for 3 hours. Plus taxi 30 r.

Girl wasn't beautiful, but for the price, she was great. Came twice, once after a on off fuck and suck for an hour. Then had some pizza. Then mutually sucking for an hour or more, followed by a pop, thinking of my most beautiful Rio working girl and I double teaming the most beautiful university student I've met in Rio, impregnating both of them, while watching some anal fucking on a boat that looks like Arrail do Cabo.

Off she went after 3 hours, would I repeat? On a day when it is tough to find my regulars, and for less than $300 all in for motel and the chick for 3 hours all you can suck and fuck.

Monger on fellas.

Hi guys,

I am visiting Rio March 12th till March 16th.

Anyone wishes to hook up let me know as this is my first time in Rio and I could use some expert guidance. Cheers SG.

Just like the swans to Capistrano.

Had Raissa over for a 3 hours massage of my private parts, using her three holes, and her hands, and we watched evil angel, Ana Foxxx getting ass fucked, and listened to 50 cent.

Probably pay her 200.

Prive girl texts, I say prefer pernoite.

Other prive girl coming at 16 h.

Other freelancers texting me, new mulattas, fellas!

Today I went to Angels massagem. By now I've tried almost all of their girls. However they had one girl today I hadn't seen before. A girl that used to work at 4x4.
Núbia, morena clara, 32 years, fit, slim, 300 g silicon tits (which I'm not fond of) and a quite small ass. The ass was the way I like them. Relatively small pony-ass, bubbly, round and very firm.
She gave an excellent BBBJ, tit-f*ck and f*cked very well. Finished with BBBJCIM.

Extra plus for good posing for pictures and a minus because of too many tattoos.
R$90/30 min.

I have been to Rio a few times and my last trip was five years ago. March 3rd through the 11th I am back and can't wait! I was hoping some of the hard core regulars would give me the inside scoop on terma pricing and also the best massage parlors. Any and all intel will be greatly appreciated! I have a couple of newbies making the trip and I want to point them in the right direction while making sure they are not overwhelmed LOL.

Many favourites who quit are flooding back to mv30 and Florida and other reasonably priced spots.

The economic crisis is real.

Ill be there waiting soon! LOL.

I have no problem sessioning again with a girl once in a blue providing she also comes over and hits me off-namorar.

All understood and above board. Got to balance it out.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1837638]Just like the swans to Capistrano.

Had Raissa over for a 3 hours massage of my private parts, using her three holes, and her hands, and we watched evil angel, Ana Foxxx getting ass fucked, and listened to 50 cent.

Probably pay her 200.

Prive girl texts, I say prefer pernoite.

Other prive girl coming at 16 h.

Other freelancers texting me, new mulattas, fellas![/QUOTE]Your life is a movie beyond (X) rating! LOL.

Catch you soon champ.

[QUOTE=SilkySlim;1837815]I have been to Rio a few times and my last trip was five years ago. March 3rd through the 11th I am back and can't wait! I was hoping some of the hard core regulars would give me the inside scoop on terma pricing and also the best massage parlors. Any and all intel will be greatly appreciated! I have a couple of newbies making the trip and I want to point them in the right direction while making sure they are not overwhelmed LOL.[/QUOTE]
You've been to Rio a few times and never made any reports. Only one post which is asking for inside scoops and the best massage parlors. How about you and your friends RTFF?

Hello all,

I'll be headed to GIG in a couple of weeks, 24th Feb to 1st March. If there's anyone one that's going to be there during this time and don't mind a wingman PM me. I was supposed to be there last year and hit a snag so needless to say I didn't make it. I have been reading the forum and my excitement is 100 fold. Can't wait to be able to tell my stories on here.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1838141]You've been to Rio a few times and never made any reports. Only one post which is asking for inside scoops and the best massage parlors. How about you and your friends RTFF?[/QUOTE]LOL. Good one Sperto!

Lazy non-fuckers asking for a handout.

Hi guys,

Does anyone about this website.

[URL]http://www.acompanhantesmariasemvergonharj.com/Acompanhantes_RJ.html[/URL]

The girls look amazing and I do not know if they are for real?

I am visiting Rio next month so any help, advise would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

SG

Hey guys so I mentioned before I'll be traveling to rio in Feb., well I just booked my tickets from 20 Feb. Til 20 March, so now I have to find somewhere to stay. I'm looking at airbnb since VRBO seems a little risky since you pay by bank transfer. I'm really confused by where to stay, I mentioned before I would stsy in centro but someone on the board said to stay in copa. Well obviously I chose centro as it's cheaper, but also it seems better since most prives are in centro and I don't want to commute lots in rio. Also aren't most of the women who we find on brazilcupid living further north of centro too? Because of those three things I thought it would be best to stick to centro. I have just discovered that santa teresa is like poblado in medellin, lots of hills? Is that true? I can't be dealing with walking up and down hills to be honest, especially in hot weather. Can somone guide me to the best areas in centro to stay? Obviously the closer to a metro the better I guess? How much are cabs in rio? I know the metro is cheap, I just want to avoid having the urge to rent a car. My budget for the rental is <=1000 USD.

Thanks folks.

P.S. I'm looking for specific borough information like lapa etc please expand on your suggestions, much appreciated as always.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1838781]I have just discovered that santa teresa is like poblado in medellin, lots of hills? Is that true?[/QUOTE]I stayed last time in the Hotel Santa Teresa. Relais & Chateaux, and it was indeed on a hill. You could have a nice view over the town. Streets are going up and down there.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1838781]Hey guys so I mentioned before I'll be traveling to rio in Feb., well I just booked my tickets from 20 Feb. Til 20 March, so now I have to find somewhere to stay. I'm looking at airbnb since VRBO seems a little risky since you pay by bank transfer. I'm really confused by where to stay, I mentioned before I would stsy in centro but someone on the board said to stay in copa. Well obviously I chose centro as it's cheaper, but also it seems better since most prives are in centro and I don't want to commute lots in rio. Also aren't most of the women who we find on brazilcupid living further north of centro too? Because of those three things I thought it would be best to stick to centro. I have just discovered that santa teresa is like poblado in medellin, lots of hills? Is that true? I can't be dealing with walking up and down hills to be honest, especially in hot weather. Can somone guide me to the best areas in centro to stay? Obviously the closer to a metro the better I guess? How much are cabs in rio? I know the metro is cheap, I just want to avoid having the urge to rent a car. My budget for the rental is <=1000 USD.

Thanks folks.

P.S. I'm looking for specific borough information like lapa etc please expand on your suggestions, much appreciated as always.[/QUOTE]Centro at night is shit.

Lapa is fun and hectic-I prefer staying in Copa-girls will come anywhere for $!

Cabbing to and from Centro is cheap as well as metro.

Need some sea as well.

Pat Marbeleza had three girls in his Botafogo apartment. Raysa, a 19 year old mulatta, and his current top girl, was sleeping in the bedroom, while her two friends slept on the front couch with a mattress, listening to Capital Inicial, MTV acoustico on Chromecast. They were supposed to have a dupla, but after an hour of fucking Raysa before the bloco came past on Rua Bambina. Pat Marbeleza fucked Rayssa right out of the shower while rap was playing I like from the shower when its fresh and wet, where the Mulatta sucked my cock, while I slapped her face with my dick. Then took her in the air conditioned room, and banged her face again for 15 minutes, until she asked for a condom, and I suited up, fucked her in two or three positions. We relaxed, and joined her friends, watched the parade of the bloco past the window balcony of my awesome Botafogo apartment.

Making up for a well behaved youth is how Pat Marbeleza thought of it. He had banged 350 Rio working girls since 2007 or 2008, he forgot which. It had been during the crash when he was trading, and made money, and came to a business event for an alumni group. The spy game behind the two best of those 350 working girls is what this novela is about, they were Alexia Belucci, and one who came later, but started in the same year that Alexia Belucci retired, when Pat Marbeleza had a pernoite with Alexia Belucci, high above the Copacabana night, only to invite a second girl, just 18, up to fuck Alexia Belucci in the ass with a large strap on dildo, that unnamed girl would go on to be a sexual secret agent, who gained a porno contract in LOS Angeles, where she became a CIA operative, who used the secret weapon of sex to reprogram Al Qaeda members, to literally give them 80 virgins in a perverse way of torturing a jihadi to become a Catholic Latino. It was devious, really. Pat Marbeleza was the finacier to came up with this little offshore company, a deep undercover consultant not to the CIA, but to a hedge fund with onshore and offshore accounts.

Tomorrow, Milla Villa a new Mulatta is scheduled, new girls all week. Marbeleza remembered the new girl, 6 years ago, 18 years old with a 12 inch dildo, lathering the tip of the dong before fingering Alexia Belucci. The new girl gave it to Alexia in one long thrust, making Alexia, whose real name is -- can't say, the Brazilians will read it -- scream and beg. Then, Marbeleza knew that the new girl would be his real love for 6 years of whoring in Rio, on again off again, as she rose in Freelancer stardom after fucking at many of the city's termas. Yeah, Marbeleza still loved her and she was texting him now, suggesting she might again be interested. Marbeleza sent her shots of joints -- that was always a winner on whatsapp. Marbeleza decided to ask her for a few days to bang her tight Meier ass again, falsa magra, meaning lean and athletic, a whiter Carioca, a morena clara.

Yesterday I did a thorough privê-tour in Centro. I concentrated on Avenida Treze de Maio 33 and 47 and also on Av Presidente Vargas 490 and 582. I passed by about 50 privées. What surprised me was that so many privées were closed. It's normal that some privées get closed or moves to another location. However yesterday I noticed that many privês that were working in Dezember now where closed, even the door-bells were removed.

Still there were plenty of privées open to keep me happy. Prices between R$30-170. The quality varies a lot. The most beautiful girls are not necessarily found at the more expensive privées. I made notes so I know where I want to return or not. If somebody else wants check out these buildings many of the sala numbers can be found on Gpguia.

Finally I headed to Emporio do Banho. The presentation was really good. I instantly fell in love with Mikaela. Morena clara, 20 years, Spanish descendant, very beautiful, perfect teeth, long nice black hair, sweet, innocent-looking, petite, slim, fit, small but nice firm tits (even though one kid), shaved tight p*ssy and a wonderful ass. A round and excellent small-sized ass (not for horse-ass-lovers). IMO she is 9 points. If she had large natural tits I would propably have proposed. :D

Very GFE, great BBBJ and f*cked with a lot of enthusiasm. It was a 40 min session so I had time for a second pop, this time in her mouth. Extra plus for good posing for photos. Very good room with a large bed, mirrors on three walls and a large f*ckfriendly shower with a bench.

R$170/40 minutes. In my book it's a bit costly but I don't complain as she was worth every centavo.

Hi guys,

I'm hoping some of you regulars can give me some advice. I've done my time in Dominican Republic and Mexico, and the Far East (Thailand and Philippines) and the odd mongering pocket here and there, but I'd like a little information on Rio.

What I'm looking for is somewhere like Remulos in Manaus, where I spent a good few weeks a couple of years ago. Remulos is a strip club with rooms onsite. I won't be able to bring girls back to hotel and don't fancy the motels. I like the spontaneity of find a diamond, taking her upstairs, having fun and repeating an hour later with a few beers in between. I gather I can get this at the termas but don't fancy wandering around in a robe. I particularly like strip clubs with action, like Hong Kong in Tijuana etc. The atmosphere and flirting.

Does Barbarellas meet this need, albeit pricey? Or any non robe wearing termas? I'll be there mid March for 6 days on work.

Thanks in advance for any help, and I'll post a newbies report on my findings no matter what.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1839684]A round and excellent small-sized ass (not for horse-ass-lovers)[/QUOTE]Where are the big butt beauties at? Which prives? I just booked my apartment in copa from 21 Feb. To 20 March will you be around??

[QUOTE=Sperto;1838141]You've been to Rio a few times and never made any reports. Only one post which is asking for inside scoops and the best massage parlors. How about you and your friends RTFF?[/QUOTE]LMAO at Sperto. But he is telling the truth. I'll be making my first trip to Rio this week. I have RTFF, I have made other trip reports and I hope to have energy to make a trip report when I get back.

[QUOTE=Crossfire1;1839834]LMAO at Sperto. But he is telling the truth. I'll be making my first trip to Rio this week. I have RTFF, I have made other trip reports and I hope to have energy to make a trip report when I get back.[/QUOTE]And where have you been to the DR! That's a shit hole. Ie. A hole in the ground where you go to take a dump.

You are going to lose your mind in Rio. In Rio, the girls (garotas) fuck you! In a good way.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1839759]Where are the big butt beauties at? Which prives?[/QUOTE]
Big horse-butts you'll find at most privées.
Check out:
[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/massagistas.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=GoonerMan;1839749]Hi guys,

I'm hoping some of you regulars can give me some advice. I've done my time in Dominican Republic and Mexico, and the Far East (Thailand and Philippines) and the odd mongering pocket here and there, but I'd like a little information on Rio.

What I'm looking for is somewhere like Remulos in Manaus, where I spent a good few weeks a couple of years ago. Remulos is a strip club with rooms onsite. I won't be able to bring girls back to hotel and don't fancy the motels. I like the spontaneity of find a diamond, taking her upstairs, having fun and repeating an hour later with a few beers in between. I gather I can get this at the termas but don't fancy wandering around in a robe. I particularly like strip clubs with action, like Hong Kong in Tijuana etc. The atmosphere and flirting.

Does Barbarellas meet this need, albeit pricey? Or any non robe wearing termas? I'll be there mid March for 6 days on work.

Thanks in advance for any help, and I'll post a newbies report on my findings no matter what.[/QUOTE]Non-wearing termas / boates with rooms are t502,t81,mv, vm,t31,americas, subsolo, Florida, cancun downstairs,119,black / white,22 etc.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1839759]Where are the big butt beauties at? Which prives? I just booked my apartment in copa from 21 Feb. To 20 March will you be around??[/QUOTE]Thats like asking where's Burger King in any city in US.

Dude big bundas- that's the majority of working girls here in Rio LOL.

Excessive leg-days in gym, implants, diet, genetics. Enjoy-won't be hard to find.

[QUOTE=GoonerMan;1839749]What I'm looking for is somewhere like Remulos in Manaus, where I spent a good few weeks a couple of years ago...[/QUOTE]
Remulos in Manaus is unique. There is nothing like that in Rio.
The only strip-club in Rio that reminds slightly of Remulos is Florida Bar at Praça Mauá. They have rooms one floor up and there are motels close by. At Remulos you can find 50 girls a good night, but at Florida propably less than a dozen. Not to forget the difference in prices, Remulos is much cheaper.

Pat Marbeleza was sitting and waiting for Bruna, her real name, who until a few weeks ago was a prive girl, earning 70 reais (about 20 dollars) a throw for her half of an hourly income from fucking whoever came through the door. He now paid her 600 reais a night for pernoite, at his safe, fun Botafogo apartment. Santana was playing, This Game of Love, into the rainy Botafogo night, a sexy night like any in Rio, for a sexy girl, 18, loves anal, with a body like Alexia Belucci and Nicole Meier's.

Alexia's love of music was the source of her contracting, smooth muscle sliding, pussy gripping orgasms which were the stuff of legend among mongers from 2007 to 2009. Even now, in 2015, the locals will compare a really good GDP -- Garota do programa -- to Alexia Belucci, especially her fans like Farofino, a Brazilian dude named. Well, the locals read this. Pat Marbeleza fucked Alexia in a few benchmark pernoites in August 2010. She had just come back from Italy a common destination for working girls, plus she was Italian, but not just Italian, Italian with dark hair and eyes, long legs, and a long head of hair to match. She was 1. 7 meters, and hardly a pound over 100 pounds, but with an athletic ass on long, shapely legs, with a sensitive, multi orgasmic clitoral lips and clit on top of those legs. When Pat marbeleza did those two pernoites, she was 31, a woman, not a girl, who could use her asshole and pussy to milk a man's most precious part for hours if it suited her. With a kid, and not wanting to offer her holes to all of Brazil's men -- at least not all of them -- she decided Pat Marbeleza could be her way out of Brazil to another country.

So, they fucked all night, 14 hours, on and off, 1 or 2 hours of sex, a little sleep, and then more sex. Twice. In a week. Her pelvis was poweredby Black Magic Woman, when that song came on, a look came over her eyes, Italian darkest hues across her evil features and all she wanted was dick, the bigger, the harder the better in her pussy, and she wanted it in her ass even harder. That was her secret. She was a true anal orgasmic, and men would discover this and fuck her ass relentlessly, for 3, four, five hours of a scheduled two hour session. And she loved it, every minute of being used hard, like one of Rocco's onscreen working girls. Being half Brazilian as well, she coveted being used hard for anal sex. After years of this at 4 x4 where she went by the name Ingra, she became a Freelancer in 2007, where she could chose her clients, but the msot aggressive men kept choosing her for her weakness, her asshole, her culita, her cuzinha. From one of those online reviews, Pat Marbeleza had tracked her down, and in his first meeting with her for an hour in 2008, he had put a glass butt plug up her ass, while he fucked her pussy.

A few sessions later, she was a regular. Now, in the summer of 2010, Pat Marbeleza was fucking Alexia for a day at a time. Africa Bamba, baila Portuguese, com calma. The nights drifted into days, and then a new 18 year old from Meier joined them for a dupla. Nicole had a huge clit, on a falsa magra body, and when she fucked Alexia from behind, the older Italian screamed and threw her head back. I fed her my dick, as we fucked her from both ends, then we switched. I took Alexia Belucci's Italian, Brazilian asshole after just a few minutes. I fucked her ass hard while Nicole shoved the shaft down her throat. Then I motioned for Nicole to lay back, and put Alexia on top of Nicole's pelvis, as I got behind Alexia. I doubled penetrated the Italian thoroughbred, that was the whole point. And while I fucked Alexia's asshole, I said to her, Eu quiero Nicole por meu esposa, quiero voce so por cachorra por nos. I want Nicole for my wife, we will use you for our.

Then we switched, I slid my cock out of Alexia's asshole, and then sat back while Alexia straddled me and put her pussy down on me with no protection, wanting my sperm to change her life, as Nicole slide her strap on into Alexia's asshole. Alexia's heart was breaking, but her ass was getting a good stretching too, as Nicole, an athletic teenager from Meier ploughed the 31 year old from Campo Grande. After about 10 minutes of this ass fucking, I grabbed Alexia by the hair, and slid my cock down her throat, and after a few pumps into her throat, pulled out and came on her face to spite her. After that, I fucked a few other professionals, like Fabia Gouveia, but the queen of my dreams continued to be Nicole, who from time to time, I would buy one of the top garotas like Thais Grimaldi to serve as a submissive lesbian in a three way where Nicole would use her strap on and sex toys on our common sex slave, usually up at Motel VIPs.

Ell me just what you want me to be.

One kiss and boom you're the only one for me.

So please tell me why don't you come around no more.

Cause right now I'm crying outside the door of your candy store.

Chorus.

It just takes a little bit of this.

A little bit of that.

It started with a kiss.

Now we're up to bat.

A little bit of laughs.

A little bit of pain.

I'm telling you, my babe.

It's all in the game of love.

This, whatever you make it to be.

Sunshine set on this cold lonely sea.

So please baby try and use me for what I'm good for.

It ain't sayin' goodbye that's knocking down the door of your candy store.

It's all in this game of love.

You roll me.

Control me.

Console me.

Please hold me.

You guide me.

Divide me.

Into what.

Make me feel good, yeah.

So please tell me why don't you come around no more.

Cause right now I'm dying outside the door of your loving store.

It's all in this game of love.

It's all in the game of love.

Yeah, in the game of love.

Samba Pa Ti plays as the rain deadens the Botafogo night. Two girls are on the bed after a long 5 hours of fucking and sucking. Dupla 350 each. Find a prive girl, and make her your regular pernoite, then get her friends for duplas, and smoke, and play felipe ret audio, and Santana too because Santana songs are the vika virus of Pat Marbeleza's heart, which was won by Alexia Belucci in 2009, to Santana Black Magic Woman, and Africa Bamba, and Samba Pati because Alexia was Pa. Oh, the Brazilians will figure it out.

OMFG, Dani had the tightest pussy. She doesn't work, not a tute, but has tats, and smokes, and my other girl brought her, and her pussy is actually tight like a virgin. I came on top of her, the highlight of 3 hours of sucking fucking, smoking eating, sucking sucking, fucking, total of 6 hours. Santana lyrics enter the portals of my mind like a virus from 6 years ago when I played Game of Love for Nicole in Barao, and banged Alexia Belucci for 14 hours to Santana, migra migra, can you find a new land in a lover.

700 total.

Today I made another privê-tour. This time to Av Rio Branco 156 and 185. I passed by about 30 privées. Quite a few were closed with the doorbells removed. At some salas there were no answer. At the working privées I made notes so I know which ones that are worthwhile to return to.

I had not decided at which privê I were to session at when a wonderful girl entered the elevator. On the way up I checked her out, she looked extremely good. I hoped she was getting out on one of the privê-floors, and so she did. She went to Angels massagem. I followed her like a puppy. I chose her quickly before any else could be her first customer of the day.

May, morena escura, 20 years, very cute, petit, slim, fit, mediumsized perfect tits (pointing up) (no kids) and an amazing smallsized bubblebutt. She's a very good kisser, very GFE, great BBBJ and f*cks wonderful. She has great control over the muscles in her tight p*ssy. An amazing session! She started working two days ago and will only work as a GP during February, as this is her holiday. Afterwards she'll go back to her regular work and studies.

R$90/30 min.

This coming Tuesday, February 23rd, Solarium will have a lottery with 2 drawings. One at 19 h and one at 22 h. If your key number is drawn, they will comp your total bill up until the moment of the drawing. The flyer doesn't really say anything about a spending limit, so I am wondering if you can take 3 girls up to the room, get lucky and get your key number drawn in the lotto and have it all paid for by the house. Cancun runs a lottery I think twice a week and their drawing is for one free 40 minute fuck (girl and room fee).

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1840852]This coming Tuesday, February 23rd, Solarium will have a lottery with 2 drawings. One at 19 h and one at 22 h. If your key number is drawn, they will comp your total bill up until the moment of the drawing. The flyer doesn't really say anything about a spending limit, so I am wondering if you can take 3 girls up to the room, get lucky and get your key number drawn in the lotto and have it all paid for by the house. Cancun runs a lottery I think twice a week and their drawing is for one free 40 minute fuck (girl and room fee).[/QUOTE]They are struggling! LOL.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1841284]They are struggling! LOL.[/QUOTE]That shit won't be funny if they shut down leaving one less terma on the already shrinking sex scene! I hope there are no more closures at least long enough for me to get down there one more time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1841293]That shit won't be funny if they shut down leaving one less terma on the already shrinking sex scene! I hope there are no more closures at least long enough for me to get down there one more time.[/QUOTE]Solarium can close for all I care.

I think the space itself is great-one of the nicest termas in terms of lay out, cozy interior and excellent food but talent is plastic and prices too high.

Another gringo mouse trap.

The triangle of MC, Centaurus and Solarium all have that plastic vibe (4 X 4 does as well allthough more carioca due to location) and frankly the talent doesn't merit the price. At All.

I used to go to MC 3 years ago as a newbie and always found 1 good one who I would take out and mini-date there.

Talent has plummeted there completely.

I refuse to go.

I think there are alot sexier girls in the lower tier termas and shit holes like VM can be great.

I have buddies who go and look for eurocentric girls at the top termas.

Why come to Brazil and look for what's in abundance back home?

Its like the Brit expats who flood to Spain and eat fry-ups every day. FFS!

Obvously those euro looking girls will go to more expensive spots because they are a minority.

I like ghetto diamonds, sexy ass latinas, negras, mulattas-all with no silicon and BBFS if I want and CIM.

Enjoy Rio.

I don't think sex scene is shrinking-with crisis its probably expanding into privee scene and VM-places girls can float in and out with no or little restriction.

You might see the tier 1 termas go that way soon-ie a bit more freeness with girls and therefor more choice.

Reais droppin like panties is good news!

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1840852]This coming Tuesday, February 23rd, Solarium will have a lottery with 2 drawings. One at 19 h and one at 22 h. If your key number is drawn, they will comp your total bill up until the moment of the drawing. The flyer doesn't really say anything about a spending limit, so I am wondering if you can take 3 girls up to the room, get lucky and get your key number drawn in the lotto and have it all paid for by the house. Cancun runs a lottery I think twice a week and their drawing is for one free 40 minute fuck (girl and room fee).[/QUOTE]The win a program bingo has been going in places like Black and White in Bonsuccesso for years. It is a sign of struggle and they must be desperate to attract gringoes if a Tier 1 spot is running those promotions.

Centaurus BINGO night is next!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1841471]Solarium can close for all I care.

I think the space itself is great-one of the nicest termas in terms of lay out, cozy interior and excellent food but talent is plastic and prices too high.

Another gringo mouse trap.

The triangle of MC, Centaurus and Solarium all have that plastic vibe (4 X 4 does as well allthough more carioca due to location) and frankly the talent doesn't merit the price. At All.

I used to go to MC 3 years ago as a newbie and always found 1 good one who I would take out and mini-date there.

Talent has plummeted there completely.

I refuse to go.

You might see the tier 1 termas go that way soon-ie a bit more freeness with girls and therefor more choice.

Reais droppin like panties is good news![/QUOTE]Well its all economics. Brazil is in a heavy recession now. So the locals / Brazil business men cannot buy pussy like how they use too like that. Remember the prices in these termas has not changed but the Brazil Real has lost a lot of value. Its 4 to 1 and by the end of the Year it will be 5 to 1. So a lot girls have to depend on the Gringo Dollar now. But not to many gringos visit Brazil like they used to back in the 90's- Early 2000's when Help was open. So most of them have to work in these Low End Places where the prices are cheaper and they can get more clientele.

Pat Marbeleza sat sipping his latte and nibbling Brie cheese and fine, freshly baked bread at Deli Delicia on Sao Clemente in Botafogo, having turned away two awesome girls for pernoite last night, sometimes you just want to sleep alone. Plus, Marbeleza went to centro in the morning yesterday for a 18 year old mulata, a negra really, from niteroi, for 90 r for 30 minutes.

So, yes, Pat Marbeleza agrees, Solarium sucks. Not just the sex, but the service. Rosie, an older gal, is the manager, the gerentao, and she's a *****. Pat Marbeleza texted her over whatsapp about bad service, and she blocked him. Well, Pat Marbeleza advises all mongers to go to 4 x 4 instead, where Tito Ribeiro and his nephew, Vitor are responsive and sensitive to client complaints via whatsapp. So take your patricinha puteiro Solarium and go fuck yourself Rosie and your crew of wenches who aren't even good at sex -- this is Brazil, and you're not good at sex. Had two of your hos and they don't fuck like 4 x 4 girls.

So beach logistics. Let's say you have 3 Carioca 19 year olds at your apartment on the day after a bloco that comes by your balcony in Rua Bambina, which is about 437 times cooler than a deck in Copacobana -- and yes, Obi Wan Marbeleza is looking at you Sith Lord Cartman in your death star deck your touristy deck -- and let's say the 3 girls want to go to the beach because you've been fucking and smoking all night, like a man should with 3 teenagers during carnival, and you have to figure out what the fuck to do. Well, here it is, by the numbers: you get yourself a 5-11 Tactical Moab6 bag, and put a half inch REI climbing loop with a buckle around the bottom so you can three point attach that shit to your body, Ramadi style, put a chaplains cross on the velcro patches so the bad guys, the cops and the traficantes maybe think you're a cleric as in large parts of Latin America from Tijuana to Porto Alegre the only people they won't fuck with is a cleric. You get yourself a JBL Flip 3 and put it in the outer pocket, which is a blue tooth speaker, and you get yourself a few cell phones, I recommend the Nexus 5, especially since on each you can put 5 users, each with a Whatsapp, spy v spy baby. OK, now you load up your playlist with Felipe Ret. Play that shit at the beach. OK, you need cash, but not much. 140 reais buys a bunch of those little sand dresses for 3 chicks. 97 reais buys bolinhos de bacalau, and fish fried just so, and drinks, and drinks, I mean, if you're going to do it, do it. Leblon beach. So, swim goggles are good. Go to the beach, get a dude to bring you chairs and umbrellas, the chicks take care of that. After about 4 hours of smoking (oh, bring that too), and listening to felipe ret, which makes you look like a motha fucking brasileiro with 3 hot ass chicks sitting next to you, you must have a cock that swings down to your knees, she leans over and says, "dupla with (forgot her name, but a hot ass loira)" and you say yeah, and walk back to the road pick up a taxi and a few hours later, two chicks are sittting on your dick and face, one after the other, back at the botafogo love shack, yes you, sith lord vader cartman, let's see your sorry bleached white whale ass at the beach.

Felipe Ret.

Because the most erogenous organ on a woman's body is her ears, and you can stimulate them without taking her pants off. Bruna Surfistina is the reference I cite. You can read it in her book, which I did, a monger dedicated to his craft. She writes, that she would play a Jota Quest soundtrack for her tricks, and the hour would go by. But Jota Quest is so. So. So fucking last decade. Like the 18 year olds you are banging were conceived to Jota Quest.

Because you don't want to play Jota Quest and remind the PYT of her daddy, you want to compete with the other 18 year old, and be like, Felipe Ret, baby.

Pat Marbeleza had done the field work for you men. You go into sex with a Brazilian woman. You play Felipe Ret, and the Brasileira will curl up like a cat, and sleep and purr like a kitten, and 3 hours later, your dick will get hard, and you will go out in you front room, the one with the mattress in front of the HDTV, and you will fuck again.

So, whether it be a terma, a prive, a hotel, or your apartment, there it is mongers. Play Felipe Ret. You can be a non Portuguese speaking white dude off a direct flight from Berlin and you will be cooler than any Brasileiro because you both play Felipe Ret and you have money. After 3 days, you will have 3 women texting you with requests to fuck them every afternoon.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1841471]Solarium can close for all I care.

I think the space itself is great-one of the nicest termas in terms of lay out, cozy interior and excellent food but talent is plastic and prices too high.

Another gringo mouse trap.

The triangle of MC, Centaurus and Solarium all have that plastic vibe (4 X 4 does as well allthough more carioca due to location) and frankly the talent doesn't merit the price. At All.

I used to go to MC 3 years ago as a newbie and always found 1 good one who I would take out and mini-date there.

Talent has plummeted there completely.

I refuse to go.

I think there are alot sexier girls in the lower tier termas and shit holes like VM can be great...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Cane;1841293]That shit won't be funny if they shut down leaving one less terma on the already shrinking sex scene![/QUOTE]
I agree on that 100%. Very weird to laugh at a terma that is struggling.
Personally I never frequent Mabs, the Prado Junior stripclubs or any robe-terma. Still I hope they doesn't close as that would mean more gringos going to the privées. That would lead to raised prices, girls getting spoilt with tips and loudmouth gringos acting indiscreet when visiting the privées. It's important to have gringo-traps in Copacabana to keep the balance.

I've noticed lately that the privê-scene in Centro has shrinked. There are still tons of privées, but more places have closed than normally. Tijuca which had a whole bunch of privées, a couple of years ago, has been cleaned up very much. Not good at all.

Side-note 1: For those wanting to monger in Ipanema. There are a bunch of GPs at both Shenanigan's Irish Pub (which BTW have excellent food) and Empório. Not to forget that there also a lot of flirting lightskinned Patricinhas.

Side-note 2. Regarding the GP lottery at the termas. In the nineties one of the Rio newspapers had a daily lottery where the readers could win a wh*re that was presented in the newspaper.

Side-note 3: Be careful when going to the beach at nighttime. This week four Argentinian girls got robbed on the beach (in front of Copacabana Palace). They tried to flee and one of them got knifed down and died. This week there was also a Peruvian guy who got killed in Quinta da Boa Vista.

Quoting Sergeant Phil Esterhaus: "Hey, let's be careful out there."

Fellas I will be in Rio for quick 2 nights Sunday to Tuesday it's been a while since I have been out there I'm a Rio but my last trip was there 6 years ago. What are good spots to hit up for mongering on a Sunday afternoon and evening I was thinking about doing Monte Carlo in the afternoon and than Mabs at night. On Monday I plan to visit my favorite mongering establishment in the afternoon I have ever been to 4 x4 since I have not been there so long. Any advice / suggestions for the new Rio at this present state fellas my ears are open thanks.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1841471]Shit holes like VM can be great. Why come to Brazil and look for what's in abundance back home?[/QUOTE]I don't fly away to nice places on far away vacations to wallow in shit holes. That's something you can do at home for a lot less money all the way around. And since I don't hang out in shit holes at home, why spend my money flying all the way to Brazil or wherever to hang out in one? I refuse to go. I want top shelf talent at favorable prices from girls I find attractive (brancas and morenas) who know how to fuck (too many of the ones back home don't) and who take it in the ass (again too many back home don't). I don't know where you're from, but where I live in the States they're all in abundance here. There are "eurocentrics", Latinas, and negras all over the place! So, I don't have to go to Brazil to find "the look".

But, I do go because the ones back home just don't throw down here like the Brazilian girls do! It's not the look I go to Brazil for. All of the looks (including Asian) are right here where I live. No, it's the "attitudes", performance, and the legality of it all at favorable pricing compared to the States that sends me to Brazil. Now, I do believe that quality talent can be found in many places. That's why I'm willing to look high and low for wherever it may be found (except for in a shit hole as there's no need to do that unless one is so inclined). So on my next trip, I will be doing the privees by day looking for value, then hitting up Tier 1 and 2 termas at night. I'll also check out Mabs, Barbarella's (for old times sake), and several other bars and joints that interest me.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1840142]Remulos in Manaus is unique. There is nothing like that in Rio.
The only strip-club in Rio that reminds slightly of Remulos is Florida Bar at Praa Mau. They have rooms one floor up and there are motels close by. At Remulos you can find 50 girls a good night, but at Florida propably less than a dozen. Not to forget the difference in prices, Remulos is much cheaper.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sperto, your work on this thread is immense.

I'll try Florida and see what the prices are. There may be less girls. It all it takes is two out of the dozen to meet my needs!

I'll be there again in the summer so may take that trip up to Manaus again. I love that bar. System of a down playing loud, tattooed big ass Colombians in leather shaking it on stage and a choice of all types to walk through the internal door to upstairs with for a fair price. Heaven!

As for the non robe termas, how do they compare to the others. I really can't be doing with schlepping around like that.

My trip is looking like a terma, Florida, Babs and Mabs for the beers and maybe a prive to end with.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1839684]Yesterday I did a thorough priv-tour in Centro. I concentrated on Avenida Treze de Maio 33 and 47 and also on Av Presidente Vargas 490 and 582. I passed by about 50 prives. What surprised me was that so many prives were closed. It's normal that some prives get closed or moves to another location. However yesterday I noticed that many privs that were working in Dezember now where closed, even the door-bells were removed.

Still there were plenty of prives open to keep me happy. Prices between R$30-170. The quality varies a lot. The most beautiful girls are not necessarily found at the more expensive prives. I made notes so I know where I want to return or not. If somebody else wants check out these buildings many of the sala numbers can be found on Gpguia.

Finally I headed to Emporio do Banho. The presentation was really good. I instantly fell in love with Mikaela. Morena clara, 20 years, Spanish descendant, very beautiful, perfect teeth, long nice black hair, sweet, innocent-looking, petite, slim, fit, small but nice firm tits (even though one kid), shaved tight p*ssy and a wonderful ass. A round and excellent small-sized ass (not for horse-ass-lovers). IMO she is 9 points. If she had large natural tits I would propably have proposed. :D

Very GFE, great BBBJ and f*cked with a lot of enthusiasm. It was a 40 min session so I had time for a second pop, this time in her mouth. Extra plus for good posing for photos. Very good room with a large bed, mirrors on three walls and a large f*ckfriendly shower with a bench.

R$170/40 minutes. In my book it's a bit costly but I don't complain as she was worth every centavo.[/QUOTE]First of all, thank you for the report. Secondly, I have always thought they had a decent selection over the years, but I despise those massage tables. Pain in the ass for laying pipe. To tall, and hard as tile. The owners of this place are the same owners of a couple other places in Centro, which have more comfortable settings, yet this place has always had those uncomfortable tables. Glad you had a good time! Hope to be there in a couple of months.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1841697]First of all, thank you for the report. Secondly, I have always thought they had a decent selection over the years, but I despise those massage tables. Pain in the ass for laying pipe. To tall, and hard as tile. The owners of this place are the same owners of a couple other places in Centro, which have more comfortable settings, yet this place has always had those uncomfortable tables. Glad you had a good time! Hope to be there in a couple of months.[/QUOTE]No massage table in my room. Instead a large comfortable bed and lots of mirrors. EDB has been renovated and the rooms looks really great.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1841471]Solarium can close for all I care.

I think the space itself is great-one of the nicest termas in terms of lay out, cozy interior and excellent food but talent is plastic and prices too high.

Another gringo mouse trap.

The triangle of MC, Centaurus and Solarium all have that plastic vibe (4 X 4 does as well allthough more carioca due to location) and frankly the talent doesn't merit the price. At All.

I used to go to MC 3 years ago as a newbie and always found 1 good one who I would take out and mini-date there.

Talent has plummeted there completely.

I refuse to go.[/QUOTE]Made my first trip to Rio for this year's Carnaval. Staying in Copa (nothing in Centro open anyway), so the choices were few: Eden for a couple of days, Delirio for a couple of days, and MC. Mostly I was walking, so I didn't make it to Solarium, and the few times I walked to Centaurus it was closed.

If that means I was in the traps, well, then I was. So, yeah, I paid the gringo tax. But I managed to dodge the RTF.

I can't compare past talent at MC to current, but I did find only a couple of garotas worth spending money on. I didn't notice a "plastic" atmosphere, unless you include silicone in "plastic". Mostly beefy women, or near skin-and-bones. There was one hot, tall garota who had a figure that would truly stop traffic; one of the other girls said she'd been silicone-enhanced both top and bottom to get that figure. Despite the wonderful view, I passed; just not big on silicone.

Did find one beautiful, black-haired hard body at MC who I visited multiple times. Everything on the menu. She's a real sweetheart who calls herself Isabella. Each time it was are $580 for an hour in the suite. Sure, I could have gotten by cheaper (hell, I could have gone to VM), but I was prepared to spend that, and was happy with what I got for my money. She was friendly, adventurous, and really made it feel like something other than a business transaction. If I get back to Rio any time soon, I'll go see her again.

Eden and Delirio seem very much like the cheap places in the States (though these are of course cheaper than the States). Not a terribly impressive lineup at either, but there were a few worth checking out.

Found one garota at Delirio who's a keeper: Morena. I've never had a more passionate, responsive working girl. Several times she was literally dripping--and it wasn't KY. A great deal of fun. If you're a gringo, beware of the gringo tax at Delirio: they'll try to charge you R$300 for an hour, unless you point out that their website says R$200.

Morena and Isabella will populate my dreams for a while.

To mention that both Morena and Isabella wanted to Whatsapp, but I don't have it (and don't want it), so they gave me cell numbers. I'm sure they're available for take-out.

BTW, there was one at Eden that was worth a try, and that's Bruna. But that one was the most like RTF, so I didn't (and wouldn't) repeat.

So, it was a pretty standard Pernoite for Pat Marbeleza. Her name is well, Carolina. She came over at 21 h or so last night, through the rain. We immediately went to fucking to her choice of music (pretty obvious good move, men) played on Chromecast plugged into an HDTV. I've finally been working out more, found a heavy bag which hangs nicely from the tree downstairs. So, came 4 times at night, and once in the morning. Spare you the gory details, but 3 hours more or less of sex. Found the girl at a prive in centro, just do a tour of the best ones every month, find the new girls, get their numbers, and after a few weeks, if you like them make them repeat pernoites. She's 18, speaks some English, has huge natural tits on a thin dancer's body (apparently she studied dance), is sweet as the breeze, and likes hard sex. 400 reais.

[QUOTE=DaBot;1841732]Made my first trip to Rio for this year's Carnaval. Staying in Copa (nothing in Centro open anyway), so the choices were few: Eden for a couple of days, Delirio for a couple of days, and MC. Mostly I was walking, so I didn't make it to Solarium, and the few times I walked to Centaurus it was closed.

If that means I was in the traps, well, then I was. So, yeah, I paid the gringo tax. But I managed to dodge the RTF.

I can't compare past talent at MC to current, but I did find only a couple of garotas worth spending money on. I didn't notice a "plastic" atmosphere, unless you include silicone in "plastic". Mostly beefy women, or near skin-and-bones. There was one hot, tall garota who had a figure that would truly stop traffic; one of the other girls said she'd been silicone-enhanced both top and bottom to get that figure. Despite the wonderful view, I passed; just not big on silicone.

Did find one beautiful, black-haired hard body at MC who I visited multiple times. Everything on the menu. She's a real sweetheart who calls herself Isabella. Each time it was are $580 for an hour in the suite. Sure, I could have gotten by cheaper (hell, I could have gone to VM), but I was prepared to spend that, and was happy with what I got for my money. She was friendly, adventurous, and really made it feel like something other than a business transaction. If I get back to Rio any time soon, I'll go see her again.

Eden and Delirio seem very much like the cheap places in the States (though these are of course cheaper than the States). Not a terribly impressive lineup at either, but there were a few worth checking out.

Found one garota at Delirio who's a keeper: Morena. I've never had a more passionate, responsive working girl. Several times she was literally dripping--and it wasn't KY. A great deal of fun. If you're a gringo, beware of the gringo tax at Delirio: they'll try to charge you R$300 for an hour, unless you point out that their website says R$200.

Morena and Isabella will populate my dreams for a while.[/QUOTE]I agree one can get lucky-I just found the more I integrate in Rio and Brazil-the less that triangle of gringo-traps appeal. Of course you can find some who will be great-I just feel that in Rio.

Many of the girls who go to like a Cancun also go to 119 and other cheap spots.

Nothing wrong with paying 600 for 1 hour at MC but at some point things should progress.

I used to take one out of there every trip untill quality dropped dramatically.

I prefer the Tier 2 joints now when I go.

Tbh Brazilcupid is so easy you can end up talking to 10-15 girls at the same time on zap zap (what's app) and see some non-pros and find some dimes.

Thats my experience and I've had some great times in Monte Carlo in the past but have found better for a fraction elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1839899]Big horse-butts you'll find at most prives.
Check out:
[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/massagistas.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Those girls are nice but personally, I like then thicker / bigger. BBW-type but NOT Tess Holiday-type.

Pat Marbeleza remembered the Loira, one of the three for the post beach dupla or was it triplo? Men, if you're not banging 19 year old Carioca blonds with tats tight pussies and very large prominent nipples who are non pros with the tightest pussies, then, you're doing something wrong.

Square yourself away.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1841515]PPlay Felipe Ret. You can be a non Portuguese speaking white dude off a direct flight from Berlin and you will be cooler than any Brasileiro because you both play Felipe Ret and you have money. [/QUOTE]This is some top shelf advice. You can even buy his albums on Amazon Music, if you are old-fashioned enough to buy MP3's.

From his song "There is no poetry without sin", the first line: "Meu rap arria as calcinha" -- My rap drops panties. Dude is legit.

I was at EDB yesterday after failing to connect with a couple of the freelancers I was eying.

Definitely the atmosphere was quite nice, as mentioned. Better than some of the other Centro Prives I've looked at in the past.

I went with Angel and would not repeat. Only CBJ. Short and not even good. She had 0 motivation, kept her legs close together, kept looking at her watch, etc. I had paid for an hour, and was back on the street after about 40.

I still prefer mongering at houses in Sao Paulo. Maybe it's because I am in SP more often and know it better, but I've never had a really good experience at a Prive in Rio.

Maybe next time I'll manage to do better.

Last week i did a thorough inspection of the privées in Avenida Treze de Maio 33 and 47, RB156 and RB185. I reduced my list by removing closed privées and privées with low quality girls. Today I went back to check out casas where there were no answer last time or where the girls hadn't arrived. Resulting in an even more reduced list.

It turned out that two privées have turned into offices. Actually one officegirl who opened the door was really hot. She smiled when I told her that I looked for a casa de massagem. In one privê the reception girl was really paranoid. She thought I was a cop.

Finally I sessioned at Annita Massagens at RB185. Bianca, 23 years, morena, really beautiful, slim, very soft skin, mediumsized very firm tits (no kids) and a absolutely lovely mediumsized round hard ass. She gave a perfect BBBJ and f*cked excellent. A beautiful sight to watch her pretty face in the mirror when pounding her doggystyle. Big plus for really good posing for pictures.

R$100/30 minutes. Considering that the cabins have no walls to the ceiling and shares AC I found the privê a bit overpriced.

Darth,

You have a talent for summarizing the truth in but a few words. Ret' poetry is indeed sinful, as is the bundinha of Meier's finest morena branca's who take my cock in their tight asshole in Motel Megara; two hours of Felipe Ret on your smartphone playing out from a JBL Flip3 is the som which will get Nicole -- don't tell them (the real name)- orgasm, along with the Nymph vibe shoved hard against her clit while I anally violate her for almost 3.5 hours of a two hour session.

That aside Vader, the rebels shall smite you down with the Force!

Your command of Portuguese, your taste in sex toys, your way with words are but outward qualities, for the evil that lurks within, us all, we Evil Angels.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1842742]From his song "There is no poetry without sin", the first line: "Meu rap arria as calcinha" -- My rap drops panties. Dude is legit.[/QUOTE]

So had a great pernoite last night. Nothing new, but still awesome.

Got her at Shalimar at Ave Niemeyer, but we preferred the Botafogo pad, so we came back here, banged at night a few times, banged in the morning a few times. Played Felipe Ret the whole time (and don't tell them hip hop).

So, I came to do the deed, the thing that makes us mongers, pay for play, the subject of this board, men paying women to have sex, and, she kind of looked at me, and leave a tender moment alone, she says, you don't have to pay me.

Love it when that happens.

So, there it is, a top tier 1 terma girl and / or a top freelancer, who fucked for 12 hours, slept, came 3 or 4 times. You don't have to pay me.

Now, good bundinha adds up. I can easily spend 10 k reais a month, sometimes on one girl if I like her, like this one some months. Some months, my pussy bill is like 10 or 20 k reais.

So, a chick who likes to smoke, and smokes and fucks to Felipe Ret, says, you don't have to pay me.

That's dineiro.

Felipe Ret.

Or Lipe.

As to truly be a Carioca, you pretty much just say nada, like you're cool, def cooler than paulistanas, stuck up up tite assholes.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1842742]This is some top shelf advice. You can even buy his albums on Amazon Music, if you are old-fashioned enough to buy MP3's.

From his song "There is no poetry without sin", the first line: "Meu rap arria as calcinha" -- My rap drops panties. Dude is legit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1843239]
Love it when that happens.

So, there it is, a top tier 1 terma girl and / or a top freelancer, who fucked for 12 hours, slept, came 3 or 4 times. You don't have to pay me.

Now, good bundinha adds up. I can easily spend 10 k reais a month, sometimes on one girl if I like her, like this one some months. Some months, my pussy bill is like 10 or 20 k reais.

So, a chick who likes to smoke, and smokes and fucks to Felipe Ret, says, you don't have to pay me.

That's dineiro.

.[/QUOTE]Patmarbeleza, can I play devil's advocate for a moment?

If you can afford to spend 6,000 dollars a month on pussy, than that tells me that you are worth quite a bit of money. Is it possible that she is trying to "long game" you? Turn down the 600-1000 R payment now in hope that she will receive far more from you in the future. You mentioned that she is a tier1 terma girl, so she knows a whale client when she sees one.

Step 1) Make the whale think you really like him

Step 2) Turn down payment

Step 3) Tell him you want out of the life

I never real spend that much. The sex is better with the 90 r for 30 minute prive 18 yo who does pernoites diarias for 300. Need 4 of those a week and maybe 500 here and there for a top top new freelancer.

But your right.

She's playing long term.

Still nice not to pay every time she empties my balls.

Thing is one of my other girls has brought me two super duplas in the last week.

So harem maintenance.

Well I finally made it back to the Matrix. Flight got in on time which was nice. I couldn't wait to get off the plane and run through customs. There was no need for running though. The line through customs was moving much faster than I remembered. Is this GIG 2.0? I stopped at duty free and got some elixir for future guests then walked out to catch a cab. The drive was a long and quiet one as my taxi driver didn't want to play music or talk. Oh well, I just took a little recharge nap on the way to Copa. I finally get to hotel and check in. Can't wait for the upcoming activities my short week stay is going to bring. I contact Patmar with hopes of hooking up with him later but until then, I think I am going to go exchange some dinheiro get a bite to eat and take the blue pill and enter the Matrix. Hoping to have some good stories to tell later.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1843404]Snip But your right.

She's playing long term.

Still nice not to pay every time she empties my balls. Snip.[/QUOTE]Perhaps, depending on what she knows about you and her assessment of the possibility of having a long-term non-pay relationship with you, but maybe she wanted to feel like a woman ("she kind of looked at me, and leave a tender moment alone, she says, you don't have to pay me") and not a hooker for once.

[QUOTE=ChelNam;1841996]Those girls are nice but personally, I like then thicker / bigger. BBW-type but NOT Tess Holiday-type.[/QUOTE]BBW type you can find everywhere, people can not advise you where to go because it depends on the day there are always different women and also we all have our own taste, if someone write this place is good because the ladies are beautiful it doesn't mean they are beautiful for everybody some guys are more into negra, white, Asian or morena girls, some guys are more into big, slim, curvy, thick or thin girls (young or mature).

Asking BBW type women is like asking hamburger in the USA.

I know a prive in Copacabana.

Avenida nossa senhora de Copacabana, 583 sala 303.

It is open from Monday to Saturday 10 am - 10 pm.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1836243]Had a buddy come into town, and he wanted to check out Mabs and Barbarela.

Not normally my thing, but went along anyway.

I actually had never been to Barbarelas, so I though, WTF, I'll check it out.

Mabs cracks me up really.

More so the guys there than the girls really. No offense to any Mabs regulars here.

There are really some strange characters that hang there.

While there at Mabs, I went inside the restroom, there was a fairly hot blonde girl nearby, so of course I was checking her out visually, when a total unkept, loud, obese goon pops up to me and says, "Sorry fella, she's mine, taken"..[/QUOTE]If you really like the lady why don't you ask the phone number? Just for the next time you meet, yesterday I picked a girl 100 reais for 3 hours, the girl works in a terma in centro, it was 4 am exluding motel price (69 reais for 4 hours) total I paid 205 reais with taxi and motel. The lady: Loira, Branca, blue eyes, slim 5 feet 10, the Mabs is good you just have to know how to manage, most guys in Mabs spend hours talking with the girls and finally they don't pick the girl it is as if they just need someone to talk.

Well today was a good start to my return to the Matrix. After I awoke from my much needed nap, I went and exchanged money then got something to eat at Stalos. The food is OK but don't know if I will be returning. I did however drink Caipirinhas like it was going out of style. I had sent a Whatsapp message earlier to a beautiful 19 yo I have been talking to but she didn't reply. Feeling like I might be getting cat fished I headed back to my hotel room to get info on the different prives in the area. To my surprise my phone started buzzing, it's the beautiful one texting. She apologizes and says that she was in the gym (keeping that body tight) and asked if I still wanted to see her. Now with all the choices we have here I could've said no some other time but since I've been wanting to get a piece of her for some time now I told her yes. We set a time and get this, she arrives 5 minutes early. LOL Is there a glitch in the Matrix I'm thinking to myself. She forgot her documentos but they let her up no problem. She's even prettier than her pics. If I wasn't a vet in this game I probably would've froze. We chat a little before the fun begins. Just in case some are wondering, she isn't a non-pro. She's all pro, met her on Brazil Cupid. She told me on there that she used to work at Solarium. Her body was very tight yet soft. She had the silicon job done but I didn't hold that against her. But I digress, it felt like we knew each other for ages. Keep in mind that she's only 19. Her oral skills were that of an experienced woman and her love making skills top notch. The next 4 hours with her was great and I think I will see her again before I leave. This was a great welcome back for me. Can't wait till tomorrow.

I have been looking for a women name Gabriela. She was in Big Butt Brazilian Orgy 3 and Spanish Fly Pussy 13. Can someone please help I have been looking for months for this woman maybe contact info or her real name so I can find her on the internet.

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[QUOTE=Jerry80;1843758]I have been looking for a women name Gabriela. She was in Big Butt Brazilian Orgy 3 and Spanish Fly Pussy 13. Can someone please help I have been looking for months for this woman maybe contact info or her real name so I can find her on the internet.

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Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Gabby has been out of the life for about 10 years. Normal life and normal job now.

So I arrived Sunday morning to SDU, I chose this airport intentionally to avoid a long drive after what would already be a long flight. Paid 50.00 for a cab to my apartment. Apartment is small but nice, no complaints. It is walking distance to the mall: Rio sul centro in botafogo and to mabs.

Sunday evening I had a Brazil cupid girl arrive, 22 from cabo frio but have been in nova iguacu visitng her parents before arriving here. As you can already imagine she arrive more than an hour late. She spent two days here to my surprise. On the first night we walked to mabs, she said no: garotas de programa, so we kept walking and since we couldn't find anything else we went back to eat. Women were ugly she admitted to that, food was pretty good.

In the afternoon we walked to rio sul to get a sim card, I purchased a tim visitor sim, 25.00 per week for 1. 5 GB of internet. We then ate at one of the buffet places on the groud floor, really awesome food. I'd checked it out the day before but hadn't tried. They will cook steak, sausages, chicken and other stuff for you. Monday evening we went back to mabs, walked by barbarellas (80.00 entrance with 2 drinks included) saw women outside but didn't enter. Mabs on Monday night had a lot of hot big arsed women. I was impressed. Before leaving I spoke to this hot garota along with my date for a trio, when I asked her how much she immediately said 150.00 no bartering needed, but I backed out. My date had already agreed to do a trio with whoever I picked. I am holding on for her to find a woman or for me no find a non GDP for this.

My date left Tuesday morning, I did nothing all day, then in the evening met a lady from brazilcupid. She is 34 no kids never been married. I was blown away by her pictures as she looks in her early twenties. Anyway we met in rio sul, I got there a few minutes early to use the HSBC ATM as I saw the other day the max withdrawal is 1000.00 reias. My bank of america didn't work at all, spent two hours calling them with skype on my cellphone in the mall while she waited to unblock my card. I'd only used my card a twice in Brazil and apparently it had already been copied so says bank of america. We then went upstairs to outback and had a lot of drinks, (women here love cervejas, not cocktails right?) I had about 7 mojitos, she had about 5 shopas. We share a cab and go our seperate ways. Rather than head home, I carry on walking to mabs and just look at the women, I see this really gorgeous big arsed woman in mabs, I ask her how much, she says 250 and I get her down to 150 without anal but with OWO included. Pics below (a very good fuck, tight pussy).

Yesterday I speak to the 34 year old and she wants to come over for an english lesson. She gets here around 6:45 pm, I had to shower with cold water problems with shower. I have no paper so we go out for paper, we also buy a bottle of wine, some wine glasses, cheeses and crackers. I do a little teaching, we then talk for a while, drink and eat. Then she wants to watch prison break on netflix in bed. She stays the night and leaves around 10:30 am today. No sex, just a lot of heavy petting. Her body oh my god, like that of an 18 year old, perky books, delicious legs, smooth curvy butt, god damn. (will put the work in on this one). I have this even older woman lined of later today and the GDP from Tuesday night may come back very late today.

Anyway I could really do with some help with how to get to Vila mimosa and to get to the centro casas, for centro casas I get the metro to carioca I guess and then walk. Can someone please list the salas to visit, or can I just peek my head in in every sala to see which are prives? Never been so sorry if it's a silly question. I will either go todayor tomorrow. It seems here sundays are just really slow so need to plan something for the weekend, maybe I can pick a girl up at the beach. If anyone is in rio and wants to hang out pm me your number. And please guys I really could do with advice on centro prives.

Here are some photos:

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1843929]So I arrived Sunday morning to SDU, I chose this airport intentionally to avoid a long drive after what would already be a long flight. Paid 50.00 for a cab to my apartment. Apartment is small but nice, no complaints. It is walking distance to the mall: Rio sul centro in botafogo and to mabs.[/QUOTE]Have taxi prices in Rio increased that much? I remember from Santos Dumont to Copacabana being 18 reais; 21 at the most.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1843941]Have taxi prices in Rio increased that much? I remember from Santos Dumont to Copacabana being 18 reais; 21 at the most.[/QUOTE]I probably just got ripped off, I asked the guy at the information desk, right by the taxi stand, he said it should be 50. I asked yellow taxi and private taxi, the private saig no less than 60 and yelloy agreed to 50. While in the cab he said if I'd use to meter it may have been 40-50 but who knows, he was probably lying as it's really not far. I just didn't want to risk with a meter and they drive around for ages racking up the meter as had no GPS to call them out on it.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1843929]
Anyway I could really do with some help with how to get to Vila mimosa [/QUOTE]You have a couple of options, apart from taking a bus:

Take the metro from Carioca (Green line) to Sao Cristovao station, and walk east back towards Rua Ceara, it's about 200 meters, you can exit from either side of the Metro station, and the street will take you to Rua Ceara.

If you are walking south of the railroad tracks, once you get to Rua Ceara, by the railroad overpass is a bar on the corner, it's also a lanchonette, but everyone there just drinks. You take the cross street (Rua Lopes de Souza) east a couple of blocks until it ends and go left 100 meters. At that point, you will be in Vila Mimosa. If you have problems, just follow the taxis.

If you are walking north of the railroad tracks, when you turn right onto Rua Ceara, take your first left and Vila Mimosa is 100 meters down the street.

The other approach is to take the Metro to the Central station, get off and walk up to the railroad station. Take any train to Praca de Bandera, and walk west until you hit Rua Ceara. You will see the corner bar past the railroad overpass, and turn right.

BTW, don't pay 50 reais to go from Santos Dumont to Copacabana by taxi.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1843929]Anyway I could really do with some help with how to get to Vila mimosa[/QUOTE]These are two maps for the directions to VM that I saved from here some time ago:

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1843941]Have taxi prices in Rio increased that much? I remember from Santos Dumont to Copacabana being 18 reais; 21 at the most.[/QUOTE]From SDU, all taxi's use a set rate price chart. Just going to Copacabana, the mid point is Rua Peru. Anything before is one set price. Anything past is another set price, and cost's more. Hope this help's.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1843929]Snip. Anyway I could really do with some help with how to get to Vila mimosa and to get to the centro casas, for centro casas I get the metro to carioca I guess and then walk. Can someone please list the salas to visit, or can I just peek my head in in every sala to see which are prives? Never been so sorry if it's a silly question. I will either go todayor tomorrow. It seems here sundays are just really slow so need to plan something for the weekend, maybe I can pick a girl up at the beach. Snip[/QUOTE]You can see the girls in any casa (who aren't in the room) just by walking past the bar as they are sometimes outside in front of it or by looking into the bar through the open windows or doors.

As for directions, maybe this will help:

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1824725]Snip. Took the Metro to Sao Cristovao, exited left over the railroad tracks, took the ramp on the right leading into Rua Francisco Eugenio to the first right turn (Rua Ceara) and then the first left turn (Rua Jardim America. If you are near Hotel Canario, you missed the turn), then walked 500 meters or so to where the people and music were. Snip[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1829073]If you're at VM after midnight, the Metro will be closed. However, it is not necessary to take a taxi back to Centro / Copa. Go to Rua Ceara, make a left and follow the road until you get to a pedestrian overpass to cross Avenida Presidente Vargas. Take the overpass and go down where the two bus stops are and wait for the buses that go to Centro and / or Copa.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps this should be in the general discussion forum, but I feel no one reads that forum so I'll write it here. I didn't mention that on Tuesday my American bank card had been blocked and I was at Rio sul with the 34 year old I previously mentioned. I had to call the bank many times, it took two hours to get it unblocked as each time the call would drop and I had to start all over. Yesterday I met this new girl (will post pics of her soonish, her ass is sublime) and I went to use my card and it said card had insufficient funds. I check my account to see $1. 45 left. She agrees to come home with me in copacabana as we met in New York City center in Barra de tijuca. Bus was 3. 80 reias from copa but took two hours and a half. Anyway my card was cloned and flushed using ATM and card transactions, they even had my pin number. So I now have to use my British account and pray that doesn't get cloned, I only used the ATMs at santos dumont and hsbc in Rio sul. Can anyone suggest where is a safe ATM to use? My American bank card did not have a chip but my British card does, will that make it harder to clone? Sorry about this question, but I've never been in this situation before. Thanks for everyone who replied to how to get to VM. I will go sometime next week and write a few words on that.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1844382]Perhaps this should be in the general discussion forum, but I feel no one reads that forum so I'll write it here. I didn't mention that on Tuesday my American bank card had been blocked and I was at Rio sul with the 34 year old I previously mentioned. I had to call the bank many times, it took two hours to get it unblocked as each time the call would drop and I had to start all over. Yesterday I met this new girl (will post pics of her soonish, her ass is sublime) and I went to use my card and it said card had insufficient funds. I check my account to see $1. 45 left. She agrees to come home with me in copacabana as we met in New York City center in Barra de tijuca. Bus was 3. 80 reias from copa but took two hours and a half. Anyway my card was cloned and flushed using ATM and card transactions, they even had my pin number. So I now have to use my British account and pray that doesn't get cloned, I only used the ATMs at santos dumont and hsbc in Rio sul. Can anyone suggest where is a safe ATM to use? My American bank card did not have a chip but my British card does, will that make it harder to clone? Sorry about this question, but I've never been in this situation before. Thanks for everyone who replied to how to get to VM. I will go sometime next week and write a few words on that.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, there is no safe place to use your ATM / Credit Card in Rio, not banks, hotels or stores, nada. I have used the Citibank ATM on Nossa Senhora a few times without any incident but I wouldn't try it now. Just too many skimming devices in Rio. My best advice to every tourist is to never use your credit card in Brasil, unless it is an absolute emergency.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1844382]Perhaps this should be in the general discussion forum, but I feel no one reads that forum so I'll write it here. I didn't mention that on Tuesday my American bank card had been blocked and I was at Rio sul with the 34 year old I previously mentioned. I had to call the bank many times, it took two hours to get it unblocked as each time the call would drop and I had to start all over. Yesterday I met this new girl (will post pics of her soonish, her ass is sublime) and I went to use my card and it said card had insufficient funds. I check my account to see $1. 45 left. She agrees to come home with me in copacabana as we met in New York City center in Barra de tijuca. Bus was 3. 80 reias from copa but took two hours and a half. Anyway my card was cloned and flushed using ATM and card transactions, they even had my pin number. So I now have to use my British account and pray that doesn't get cloned, I only used the ATMs at santos dumont and hsbc in Rio sul. Can anyone suggest where is a safe ATM to use? My American bank card did not have a chip but my British card does, will that make it harder to clone? Sorry about this question, but I've never been in this situation before. Thanks for everyone who replied to how to get to VM. I will go sometime next week and write a few words on that.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about that.

A very similar thing happened to me a couple weeks ago. My credit card was cloned while in Colombia just prior to my arrival to Brasil for carnaval. I had no idea while I was in Brasil and in fact I kept using the card at restaurants or grocery stores. But when I got back home there were some fraud alerts messages and I called the credit card. While I was in Brasil "my card" was being swiped and used in Bogota. Lucky for me it was a credit card and not checking account so after a 5 minute phone call the charges were reversed and no problem.

Oddly enough I used my ATM card in Copa everyday and never had a problem.

Good luck straightening out the mess.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1844395]Unfortunately, there is no safe place to use your ATM / Credit Card in Rio, not banks, hotels or stores, nada. I have used the Citibank ATM on Nossa Senhora a few times without any incident but I wouldn't try it now. Just too many skimming devices in Rio. My best advice to every tourist is to never use your credit card in Brasil, unless it is an absolute emergency.[/QUOTE]Other than to settle up my final hotel bill, I've never used any of my credit or debit cards in Brazil, and with stories like these I never will. I always like to deal principally in cash. I plan to pay for lodging with a credit card again, but you better bet I'll be watching that sucker closely when I get back home!

I once had my card cloned at HSBC in Copacabana so I gave up using any cards in tourists areas. Go to Centro; there is less of a chance of the card getting cloned there since locals are the majority of the customers. I gave up using my cards unless I had an emergency, bring cash, go to a Cambio you trust and enjoy yourself.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1844395]Unfortunately, there is no safe place to use your ATM / Credit Card in Rio, not banks, hotels or stores, nada. I have used the Citibank ATM on Nossa Senhora a few times without any incident but I wouldn't try it now. Just too many skimming devices in Rio. My best advice to every tourist is to never use your credit card in Brasil, unless it is an absolute emergency.[/QUOTE]

Everything will be sorted money wise, just an awful feeling as I'd left the apartment with just that card thinking well if I get mugged at least they'll only have one card and I don't keep cash unless I'm staying in a hotel with a safe. I don't trust women that stay the night with me anywhere, especially abroad. That's just me perhaps. Anyway this 24 year old is still here, I got her cooking, spreading her ass, she speaks English and what an ass! Here are some more pics.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1844382]I only used the ATMs at santos dumont and hsbc in Rio sul.[/QUOTE]I have read many reports before that the ATMs (especially HSBC) located in Rio airports are mostly the cause of the card cloning, and nobody does anything about it.

Rio's Airport ATM Scam.

[URL]http://www.riogringa.com/my_weblog/2013/04/rios-airport-atm-scam.html[/URL]

ATMs in Rio: warning.

[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g303506-i1199-k6483806-ATMs_in_Rio_warning-Rio_de_Janeiro_State_of_Rio_de_Janeiro.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1844382]My American bank card did not have a chip but my British card does, will that make it harder to clone?[/QUOTE]You need different equipment to clone it. So it is "harder" but only in a very relative sense.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1843929]Can someone please list the salas to visit, or can I just peek my head in in every sala to see which are prives?[/QUOTE]
Splendid ideá. Start with Edificio Central. 33 floors, roughly 1000 salas. Then continue with RB 185 and Av 13 de Maío. Or you could read the forum and find out which salas to visit.
Judging by your taste of ass-size you definitely should try VM which has the largest amount of XXXL horse-asses. Good luck!

Side-note: Lots of misinformation in the forum right now.
"All taxi's at SDU use a set rate price chart", not true. Just take a taxi comum and ask him to use the meter.
"The other approach is to take the Metro to the Central station, get off and walk up to the railroad station. Take any train to Praca de Bandera..." Wtf?

Pat Marbeleza was with Nicole at Buzios on Quinta. It was after a boat trip around 3 beaches and 2 ihlas, where he swam at every opportunity, circling the boat, despite smoking continuously for the 3 day trip. After an agua taxi to Praia dos Ossos, secondary target, ie, a bundinha pefeita came into view. Nicole likes lots of pictures, and Pat Marbeleza took dozens of her, but while pretending to take pictures of her athletic carioca bod, Pat Marbeleza focused his lens via the zoom in feature on the Nexus 5 onto a bundinha perfeita.

Tonight, Sabado, after a old flame came by last night for a thorough fucking before and after her class, Pat Marbeleza is expecting a regular, Lorena, who is bringing 3 of her friends, for triplo pernoite, well weekender really, since they will stay to swim at the Botafogo apartment tomorrow at the pool, which means, fucking, swimming, fucking, all weekend. 500 r for 3 girls, all weekend.

Generally, Pat Marbeleza's economic view is that post carnival it has become a buyer's market -- all the girls are asking for pernoite, and it's Pat Marbeleza's choice for the best girls, who often bring friends, spontaineously, for duplas, somtimes twice in a week. There are literally too many 18,19 year old hot girls to fuck up the ass.

OK, men, so by the numbers, here's how to execute the perfect amphibious op: You take your date at Buzios via aqua taxi from the main beach to Praia dos Ossos; you take the JBL Flip3 with Felipe Ret (Felipe Ret, Felipe Ret, Felipe Ret), you take your smokes, you have your goggles, you sit down, you take your girl for a swim, maybe pick her up, play games in the beach, all of which is sexy, romantic, and awesome. You hang by the beach, and you strap your little bag to your body, playing Felipe, and take pictures of your girl, and all the other girls will kind of drift towards you because you are playing the best music on the beach. Felipe Ret, drops panties, and the asses, like that secondary target, will kind of drift over to you to hear the music, really, November sierra. Were I not with a girl, I could grab that bundinha, which is not a bad idea, at all.

So 4 on 1 pernoite. The girls arrive at 21 h Sabado. Smoking, socializing, Felipe ret throughout. First a dupla with Lorena and a loira. That was an hour or two. Then we partied on. Then went to bed with two of the girls in my cama, and the other in the front bed. About 24 h, they get a little frisky, and four girls are in the bed with me, and I fuck them all. We have this little joke going where one of the girls will get on top, and I ask the other girl to fuck the girl on top in her ass from behind with a finger, so um dedo. That goes on for an hour with all four girls getting on top.

Pat Marbeleza couldn't even remember all their names. In the middle of the 4 on 1 midnight romp, he started thinking of himself as Lexington Steele, and a foursome with Seka, Amber Lynn, Traci Lords, and Christy Canyon. Seka was Lorena, his regular. She sucked his cock perfectly while he laid back on the bed, then summoned Traci Lords in to continue the blow job. Then the fucking for an hour or two.

In the midnight session, Seka and Traci Lords start sucking his cock, but then Amber Lynn and Christy Canyon join in. Amber Lynn is a mulatta with a bunda boa, and smallish tits, and a sexy wicked mouth that is perfect for sucking. Amber is the star of the midnight fucking, bent over de quatro. And then Christy Canyon, a Asian-Brazilian with big tits and huge nipples, joins in. Pat Marbeleza fucks them all missionary, then doggy, and then, tired, he sucks on their pussies for an hour. Women will not refuse a good blow job, and a joint. And Pat Marbeleza served up both without interruption for a few hour at 2 AM. JBL Flip 3 was playing some favela funk after Seka took over the controls. It sounded like Vila Mimosa, but it was an air conditioned room in a luxury condo, and the four girls took turns getting their pussies licked. Seka was a good host, and ate out Amber Lynn, while Pat Marbeleza fucked Traci Lords while Christy Canyon sucked on his balls.

Next morning, Amber Lynn sucked Pat Marbeleza's dick while Traci Lords sucked on his balls. Seka ordered food. Oh, all the food. Entrega from Na Brasa Columbia, and from Deli Delicia, easily 500 reais. A sublime moment occured when Pat Marbeleza realized Seka ordered several desserts with the excellent as always peixe bel munieer. All the girls took turns sucking on Pat Marbeleza's cock and balls with breakfast, then the five-some of Pat Marbeleza, Seka, Traci Lords, Amber Lynn, and Christy Canyon moved down to the pool. They played in the pool, listened to Felipe Ret and Jota Quest, took some underwater pics (Go Pro camera with bluetooth connection to a smart phone is a secret weapon, along with the bluetooth connected JBL Flip 3 playing Felipe ret), and then came back up stairs for more sex, this time just Pat Marbeleza and Seka.

And when the time came to go, Pat Marbeleza game the four girls 500 reais -- because as Mick Jagger once told some lady companions asking for more money, "You've been partying with the Stones!

'this is why I love Brazil cupid.

Today I had the proper safada experience easily rivalling a freaky GDP.

A girl came from duque caxias to my spot in Rio-had only spoken on zap zap (whatsapp) for a week-never spoken on skype.

I could have been an 800 kg German Tranny or 2!lol.

She meets me in recepcao-on the way up in the elevator tongue kissing and feeling me up. First time ever meeting in person.

Get through the door and she is all over me-sucks my dick like a Go Pro 10-monster smooth-.

We take it to the bedroom where she sucks some more-I suck her pussy-make her come-she begs me to come in her mouth-.NAO TEM LEITINHA PRA MIM? (no milk for me?)

Wants me fuck her BB-I fuck her w trojan-make her come and rip it off and come in her mouth and she swallows and said where are you going?

Stay here with me for way more.

She leaves at 18 00. Came at 1530.29 year old-no kids-loira with a bangin body.

Thank you Brazil once again.

This was definetely at the very upper age echelon-near pensioner age for me in terms of women-.

My negra stunner from Nordeste 22 is flying down and a 21 year old latina stunner is Tuesday with an ex VM negra 18 coming tomorrow.

No difference in attitude from pro to non-pro on the freak scale.

Thank you Brazil again again.

Just wanted to share that. Sorry it didn't involve GDPs. But worth every Platinum membership $.

Making friendship with an elevatorguy in a building that holds a dozen or more privées is a good idéa. They know which privées that have received new girls.

I ended my Centro tour yesterday at Angels Massagem. I've tried all their girls except the very thin Ingrid and a chubby one. All the girls at Angels are very sweet and appreciates that I know them all by first name (their working names). I chose Pamela yesterday. When I took my shower, before the act, Núbia entered the bathroom and asked if I did mind if she used the shower at the same time. She had to wait. No room for her large silicon tits in the small shower cabin.

Pamela, 20 years, morena clara, blond, cute, fit, small nice tits (one kid) and a mediumsized very firm and round ass. She started with an excellent BBBJ and continued with GFE-f*cking. Finished the session with BBBJCIM. It wasn't supposed to be CIM, but I "forgot" to tell her when it was time to shoot the load. She didn't get angry, just did some spitting, wiped her mouth and smiled. One plus for good posing for my camera. Another plus for her p*ssy that was different. She was actually quite hairy, but trimmed, and her pubic hair was blond (fake of course).
R$90/30 min.

Side-note: In the early nineties hairy p*ssies were a not an unusual sight in Brazil. Not like today when most of the girls are shaved or only have small Chaplin-bush.

Hey folks, I just met the porn star Darlene Amaro aka delanie. Very safada, she took it in the ass, throat and pussy. Very nice ass, pretty for her age. You can find her contact details and profile on rioencontro. PM for link and or number. 300 for an hour at my apartment in copa or 286 for hotel and her fee for an hour in centro so she came to the apartment this afternoon. Here is a pic:

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1846314]Hey folks, I just met the porn star Darlene Amaro aka delanie. Very safada, she took it in the ass, throat and pussy. Very nice ass, pretty for her age. You can find her contact details and profile on rioencontro. PM for link and or number. 300 for an hour at my apartment in copa or 286 for hotel and her fee for an hour in centro so she came to the apartment this afternoon. Here is a pic:[/QUOTE]You're going to love Villa Mimosa.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1846321]You're going to love Villa Mimosa.[/QUOTE]Why's that? Is it full of women with big butts?

The girl from Barra de tijuca is back, I will try and put it in her ass. Did I mention she speaks English fluently, no kids, She is actually only 22 years old though I always forget and think she's 24. The weird thing about Brazil is that you'll find attractive people of all age groups, hands down Rio has the prettiest women I've ever seen. This is based on face plus physique, if going on face alone then it would be Colombia. But I prefer women that are mixed so that's why brazil, if you like white women then go to Colombia.
I read posts of people here meeting 18 and 19 year olds in Rio, well they can't be from Brazil Cupid as all the women on there seem to be in their twenties and up. Perhaps they're being picked from privees, anywho here's a pic of this middle eastern looking princess:

I usually fly solo, but I will need a wingman for VM. I'll be in Rio starting Sat for 1 week. Any recommendations on a trustworthy and fairly priced amigo?

[QUOTE=Vlacho;1846732]I usually fly solo, but I will need a wingman for VM. I'll be in Rio starting Sat for 1 week. Any recommendations on a trustworthy and fairly priced amigo?[/QUOTE]If you plan on going to Vila Mimosa, a better investment would be in a pair of those rubber boots like the Porteiros wear. That way you won't get splodge all over your shoes. If you have never been to VM, just imagine being a Jizz Mopper at one of those 24 hour Adult Bookstores.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLXytukNlFM[/URL]

If you can afford it, spring for a full Hazmat suit.

Yesterday I tried out Centro Zen at RB156. Very sweet staff. The rooms have showers but looks a bit rundown.
My choice was Luna.

Luna, mulata, 19 years, cute, slim, small-sized nice round bubblebutt and large wonderful natural tits (no kids) which I enjoyed a lot. On her left thigh she has some scars after a recent accident with a bike. Great kisser, excellent BBBJ and f*cks very good and GFE. R$100/30 min. Extra plus for good photo-posing.

Side-note: For those who enjoys streetwalkers. I saw a few SW yesterday at Quinta da Boa Vista. Some really cute ones. I had a chat with one of them who seemed very nice.

Street Walkers in Rio are a little different from those in most major cities. Except for the obviously hardened over made-up ones, that even might be trannies, many are just sweet, girls trying to make a few extra bucks. I walk the residential neighborhoods a lot and have been approached in all of them. Just do be careful to check ID. Brazilians should have it on them.

So I decided to go to AV Rio Branco 185 yesterday afternoon, the guy in the elevator helped me out big time. You have 6 or 8 elevators and they're all somehow for different places. There's one elevator that goes just from the 20th to 21st floor. Anyway I first went to salsa 1708, no big ass Gatoras available, they said to come back in 40 minutes for a girl called Patricia but come one who waits that long without having met the GDP before. So I take the stairs to the 21st floor and I think I went into 2114, I saw the line up, it's a huge place compared to 1708. BTW 1708 prices were 90 for 30 min and 140 for an hour or something like that. 2114 was 140 for 40 mind or 170 for 1 hour. The lineup was good, I was down to Fernanda a loira with glasses and a Morena I forgot the name of. I picked Fernanda but she could only do. 40 minute session. Now she was pleasant enough with her attitude, kissing, oral without a condom, anal was on the menu for an extra 50 but here is the good thing about this garota her pussy was so tight! So I would repeat just for that. If anyone can find fernanda's profile please pm me a link as I checked onix's and bel prazer's websites and can't find her profile there but I'm sure I'd seen her profile somewhere before. Anyway got home around 7 pm, then went on a date with the gorgeous 34 year old. I picked her up in a taxi, she actually lives in Leblon and we carried on to a place in ipanema. Had a bottle wine and a few mojitos, then walked a little passed a Louis Vuitton store to a bar with some live music. I found out the band are travelling to England in August. Music and atmosphere was awesome but don't know the name of the place but can find out if anyone is interested. Anyway my date had a ton of guys chatting her up, men in their early 20's and surprisingly a girl from the band who was kinda short thin but gorgeous was all over me and for a while me and my date played a little who's going to get jealous first. Needless to say she came to me and asked me to pay attention to her which I gladly did. Took her to the apartment, we're hungry so we look for places to eat online and I ask her to walk down the street to a restaurant that I always see open no matter how late it is called cervantes. We eat come back and I fuck her tight pussy for a solid half hour, her pussy tasted sweet too. Then I put it in her ass, and she loves it. Needless to say I cum hard and we fall asleep. We wake up at 10, she complains that theres too much light in the bedroom I knod and start kissing her neck and fuck her again, no condom with this girl. She's in doggy I whip it out and cum across her back and ass, reaching her hair. Now most girls when they realise they have cum in their hair get pissed, she laughed and said safado. I fucking love Brazil, well Rio de Janeiro! Here are pics of her before she left a short time ago.

Also to note while we walked to the bar my date mentioned that you'll find GDPs here and I didn't see any til just before we left, 3 women who were by far the ugliest women there just stood on the edge of the curb, most people were stood outside anyway but you could tell they were GDPs as they just looked around doing nothing and talking to no one.

P.S. In the prive it's just a mattress on the floor, ac in room with oil, the garota brought a towel in a see through bag with a couple tissues, the condom she put on me was tight as hell! Go see Fernanda, you won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1847484]So I decided to go to AV Rio Branco 185 yesterday afternoon, the guy in the elevator helped me out big time. You have 6 or 8 elevators and they're all somehow for different places. There's one elevator that goes just from the 20th to 21st floor. Anyway I first went to salsa 1708, no big ass Gatoras available, they said to come back in 40 minutes for a girl called Patricia but come one who waits that long without having met the GDP before. So I take the stairs to the 21st floor and I think I went into 2114, I saw the line up, it's a huge place compared to 1708. BTW 1708 prices were 90 for 30 min and 140 for an hour or something like that. 2114 was 140 for 40 mind or 170 for 1 hour. The lineup was good, I was down to Fernanda a loira with glasses and a Morena I forgot the name of. I picked Fernanda but she could only do. 40 minute session. Now she was pleasant enough with her attitude, kissing, oral without a condom, anal was on the menu for an extra 50 but here is the good thing about this garota her pussy was so tight! So I would repeat just for that. If anyone can find fernanda's profile please pm me a link as I checked onix's and bel prazer's websites and can't find her profile there but I'm sure I'd seen her profile somewhere before. Anyway got home around 7 pm, then went on a date with the gorgeous 34 year old. I picked her up in a taxi, she actually lives in Leblon and we carried on to a place in ipanema. Had a bottle wine and a few mojitos, then walked a little passed a Louis Vuitton store to a bar with some live music. I found out the band are travelling to England in August..[/QUOTE]No condom? Just hope she is not pregnant I knew a guy that fucked a garota in Rio de Janeiro without condom now she asks money. Unless you only fucked her ass.

Interesting story thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1830231]Yes Black and White. Yes I haven't had any problem. Its far but cheap with nice rooms and cheap prices.

I went on the way to normal club Olimpo.

Garotas de programas definetely will come for free but they would have to like you like "namorar'-dating. When I say free its subjective as I'm still paying for food, drinks etc!

I have had 6 from MC (3 who quit business now),1 from MV30 (who quit),1 from Florida,2 from VM,1 from Cancun ,1 from T65(who quit business) - 12 in total in 15 trips since April 2013.

I paid for sessions with them all to begin with-2/3 times so that was the investment I guess but it is possible.

4 of them had 1 kid or 2 kids in 2 cases.

8 out of 12 would do BBFS out of the casa.

CIM/BBBJ : 10 out of 12

some stunners like Adrianna from MC for those of you had the pleasure of this lebanese/brazilian dimepiece...(ended career at 20 at Centaurus).[/QUOTE]We went to Florida in the center Sunday last week, we just stayed 20 minutes there is almost no garorta, only gays and transsexuals I asked the receptionist if there are garotas aki, people stared at me, the receptionist answered me there are few sometimes damn we picked a taxi to Florida for sh*t.

Which Florida are you talking about?

Located at avenida Rio Branco, 185, this is on the 21st floor, so you take the elevator up to the 20th floor and then walk up a flight of stairs to suite 2104. Upon arrival, I was shown a lineup, and picked Natalia, who gave me a brief massage and then FS for 170 reales.

So, I followed my advice from a post a few days ago, took the Rio Metro to the SuperVia train (Centro station), and the first train out to Sao Cristobao, and walked to Vila Mimosa. After a few minutes, my thoughts turned to finding a bar with A / see. Not easy when some bars were filled and some were warm even with A / see.

The main issue with Vila Mimosa is that the talent level is very low, it's more of a place to watch than to actually pay one of the creatures there. So, I would buy a cold Skol, drink until it got warm and move to another bar. And then, I noticed I was being followed.

A walker was following me around the bars. She finally came over and introduced herself, as "Nataly" from Niteroi. Anyway, she was gorgeous, like drop dead model gorgeous, leaving me to wonder why she was working as a walker in VM. In broken English, she mentioned that she had been to the US several times, leaving me to wonder what the deal was. Then, she started talking about going out to other bars, and the alarm bells started going off. So I told her that I had to go back to the hotel. She got up, lifted up her skimpy dress, turned around and showed the best ass I have ever seen, but I told her sadly that I had to go.

Maybe her pitch was perfectly innocent, but I smelled setup.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1847944]So, I followed my advice from a post a few days ago, took the Rio Metro to the SuperVia train (Centro station), and the first train out to Sao Cristobao, and walked to Vila Mimosa.
Maybe her pitch was perfectly innocent, but I smelled setup.[/QUOTE]First time jitters huh? My dad was the same way his first time. Then he saw all the fun me and my buddies had and the next time we went he took to it like a fish to water.

Not a case of jitters, I have been to Vila Mimosa before; this was something different, a walker who was following me around. Ever happen to you at VM?

In Rio for a week. Need a VM wingman to navigate around the splodge, LOL.

Well it looks like now instead of trying to wiggle off the slot that you put your card into, you should be trying to wiggle off the entire face of the machine.

[URL]http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhz364298Hg97hlEtc[/URL]

How tourists get robbed in Brazil.

[URL]http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhY6sG39h457Qu1C6o[/URL]

You don't need a wingman to go to VM, just go there and you will find yourself a wing girl, no problem.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1848160]How tourists get robbed in Brazil.

[URL]http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhY6sG39h457Qu1C6o[/URL][/QUOTE]That must be the most dangerous corner in Brazil! It looks like the man just sits in his window and he can film muggings all day long. On a side note, for a country that created MMA, I am shocked that hardly anyone fights back. My initial reaction would be to ball my fist up and get ready to knock them the f*ck out!


Does anyone know if pepper spray is legal in Brasil? Can tourists carry it?

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We talked I thought she is nice OK I take her to a motel in Vidigal, I paid her money, and then she also asked me money for the taxi, I said we only fixed an amount but I said I can give you the money for the taxi later she said no I want now I said OK and then she told me I have to wait in the room because she needs to go downstairs to smoke I said OK but leave your bag here she said no I have to smoke but I will come back I said give my money when you come back I give your money back she said no I became crazy she tried to go out of the room but I stopped her from going out I closed the door she start shouting, I became crazier I stabbed her with my keys I used scissors to cut her hair and her bag I punched her face many times damn it was so good I succeeded in getting my money back from her bag and then the police came they said what happened, I said she tried to rob me and she wanted to attack me so I defended myself, the police arrested me they took me to the police station and they let me out after 2 hours.

Finally I did not pay any money, but I can't go to Mabs anymore I'm sure this girl knows many people there.

Conclusion: there is law that protects women in Brazil but also a law that protects gringos from people that try to rob, the law in Brazil doesn't protect the working girls because they are not recognized but prostitution is not illegal, they are only protected from their friends and doormen. That's why always take the girl away from the place she works.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1848317]That must be the most dangerous corner in Brazil!. [/QUOTE]Where is it? Looks like Centro to me.

REPORTS -.

March 3, day 2.

- went to Delirium Massages on Hilario de Gouveia 66, rm 201. Had a session with Ania. Sweet girl. Small, just how I like. Half brazillian half Peruvian. Brazilian mixed with anything is always sexy as hell. Who am I kidding, Brazil is choc-a-bloc with sexy girls, it makes my heart hurt! Natural body, light brown skin was smooth soft and cool to the touch. She is in relatively good shape by American standards. She has natural be cups bewbs. Short dark hair, and a kinda weird looking face, but in a charming way. She is all smiles too. Massage in this place is just foreplay really. We made out like teenagers on a date teehee BBBJ, and sex was meh (its a volume shop, the girls here are young, but high mileage), but hey. Its hot and now with a pretty girl, so don't complain total was 250 bzr / HR (but clock watching is really not a thing that I noticed) this place is popular and there will be a line of dudes when you get there.

- had lunch, reloaded at the apartment for about a couple of hours, then went to RJM on nossa senhora 680, rm 1112. Had a session with angel. Oooh boy was that intense! Sexy doesn't describe it, this girl could be a model, she is stunning! But its just a rub and tug. She does not even get naked. So if you can get past the cfnm element, and the HJ only element, you will experience an incredible damn near medical grade massage, and one of the best hjs of your life. There is no intimacy to the experience though, no lovey-dovey hehe, and she stays totally clothed in a body suit the whole time. But I would do it again. 200 bzr 1 HR tantric OR thai 250 bzr for a little of both (I didn't notice any clock watching going on over here either) BTW this place is pretty popular and there will be a line of dudes when you get there. Oh, and don't be afraid of the thai part, they don't really do thai, its really more Swedish and you hear them say that too.

REPLIES -.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338]We talked I thought she is nice OK I take her to a motel in Vidigal, I paid her money, and then she also asked me money for the taxi, I said we only fixed an amount but I said I can give you the money for the taxi later she said no I want now I said OK and then she told me I have to wait in the room because she needs to go downstairs to smoke I said OK but leave your bag here she said no I have to smoke but I will come back I said give my money when you come back I give your money back she said no I became crazy she tried to go out of the room but I stopped her from going out I closed the door she start shouting, I became crazier I stabbed her with my keys I used scissors to cut her hair and her bag I punched her face many times damn it was so good I succeeded in getting my money back from her bag and then the police came they said what happened, I said she tried to rob me and she wanted to attack me so I defended myself, the police arrested me they took me to the police station and they let me out after 2 hours.

Finally I did not pay any money, but I can't go to Mabs anymore I'm sure this girl knows many people there.

Conclusion: there is law that protects women in Brazil but also a law that protects gringos from people that try to rob, the law in Brazil doesn't protect the working girls because they are not recognized but prostitution is not illegal, they are only protected from their friends and doormen. That's why always take the girl away from the place she works.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing that francis, the last part holds a particular lesson. It looks like you opted to defend yourself against a ne-er-do-well, and good on you for that. Something kind of similar happened to a friend of mine 2 days ago, but he opted to get robbed because he is a frequent visitor, and he feared unforeseen repercussions. It was completely obscene behavior on the part of the ne-er-do-well in his case as well.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338]We talked I thought she is nice OK I take her to a motel in Vidigal, I paid her money, ..[/QUOTE]Never pay up front. Nothing good ever comes when you do.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338] I used scissors to cut her hair and her bag [/QUOTE]Where did you get scissors from inside of a motel room?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1848467]Where did you get scissors from inside of a motel room?[/QUOTE]I always have scissors with me to protect myself even girls are dangerous, the scissors are good to mess up like cutting hair, bags it is a pity I did not cut her clothes, the scissors I got from the apartment where I live, they were the scissors that were used in the kitchen I always go out with scissors with me since my first bad experience in Brazil, conclusion. I lost money from the motel and the taxi, I bought new scissors.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1848453]Never pay up front. Nothing good ever comes when you do.[/QUOTE]Yes I think you are right since I arrived at Brazil two weeks ago, I got this experience twice but my first experience I did not manage to get the money back because I was stupid to let the girl choose the hotel she wants, the girl I met outside Barbarella when I were walking around the neighborhood trying to pick a lady.

But before world cup I never had bad experience, also I had no bad experience with the first girl I picked since I arrived at Brazil when I paid upfront but now I won't pay upfront twice is too much, I got ripped off once but I won't get ripped off twice that is why I did everything to get money back from the second girl that tried to rip me off.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1848467]Where did you get scissors from inside of a motel room?[/QUOTE]Could have been worse, right? He could have stabbed her with those scissors instead of just the keys. for the record, who was this sweet petunia you were with? I don't wanna give her my business but I cant withdraw my patronage if I don't have her name.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1847944]So, I followed my advice from a post a few days ago, took the Rio Metro to the SuperVia train (Centro station), and the first train out to Sao Cristobao, and walked to Vila Mimosa.[/QUOTE]
What's the point to take the metro to Central and then change to the Supervia train to São Cristovão when you're going to VM? It would be much easier to just continue with the metro all the way to the São Cristovão metro station.
[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338]I became crazier I stabbed her with my keys I used scissors to cut her hair and her bag I punched her face many times damn it was so good[/QUOTE]
You stabbed her with your keys, cut her hair with scissors and punched her face many times. What a tough guy! I wonder if it will feel just as good for you if her friends find you.
Great that the police have your name in their records if you beat up another woman.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1848484]What's the point to take the metro to Central and then change to the Supervia train to So Cristovo when you're going to VM? It would be much easier to just continue with the metro all the way to the So Cristovo metro station.

You stabbed her with your keys, cut her hair with scissors and punched her face many times. What a tough guy! I wonder if it will feel just as good for you if her friends find you.
Great that the police have your name in their records if you beat up another woman.[/QUOTE]It is crazy they don't have my name in their records they let me out after 2 hours it was not the first time for the girl, one of the cops told me just be careful with the putas because they often lie and next time it is better to be more careful who you chose, it is not a matter of tough guy, it is a matter of rip off fortunately I speak Portuguese, her friends won't do anything to me, the problem is just I don't want to be flagged when I go to a spot, I know a guy that is flagged many girls stare at him and talk shit about him, this guy doesn't give a shit, that means many girls will avoid me because I am flagged so the atmosphere will be boring the only difference I give a shit, also the police cares more about foreigners than putas even if my situation will be repeated I won't have any problems, Brazil is not Germany where your girls are recognized to be paid to have sex and blow jobs.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848477]I always have scissors with me to protect myself even girls are dangerous, the scissors are good to mess up like cutting hair, bags it is a pity I did not cut her clothes, the scissors I got from the apartment where I live, they were the scissors that were used in the kitchen I always go out with scissors with me since my first bad experience in Brazil, conclusion. I lost money from the motel and the taxi, I bought new scissors.[/QUOTE]When mongering, I only carry an amount of money I can afford to lose, and in all cases my first attention is to stay away from violence and from any kind of issue, better lose money than take chance to get hit.

So I think it is wise not to carry any kind of weapon, even scissors.

When I pick up a GDP in MABS, I go to next door hotel LIDO, and if she starts arguing and / or demanding money upfront, the rule is to immediately walk back to MABS with a damage 120 reais for the room. To be honest, I happen not to follow the rule and the session was so-so, but in that case I know I am the only one to be blamed.

Mongering is fun, keep it fun!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1848484]What's the point to take the metro to Central and then change to the Supervia train to So Cristovo when you're going to VM? It would be much easier to just continue with the metro all the way to the So Cristovo metro station.

[/QUOTE]Not all metro trains go to Sao Cristovao. Also, I was planning on just taking the SuperVia to Praca das Bandereites, but there was no train going there.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338]but I can't go to Mabs anymore I'm sure this girl knows many people there.
[/QUOTE]As I read this, I am wondering what exactly is a "Mabs"? Is it an acronym for somewhere?

But, taking my laundry out this AM, I passed a restaurant on Avenida Atlantico called "Mabs", would that be the same place, and if, so what is the deal there? Is that the new Meia Pataca?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1848717]But, taking my laundry out this AM, I passed a restaurant on Avenida Atlantico called "Mabs", would that be the same place, and if, so what is the deal there? Is that the new Meia Pataca?[/QUOTE]Yes. It is where the freelancers go. Actually Mabs was the original "Meia Pataca". Then Meia Pataca took over. Then Balcony took over. Now it is back to square one, Mabs.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848524]also the police cares more about foreigners than putas even if my situation will be repeated I won't have any problems, Brazil is not Germany where your girls are recognized to be paid to have sex and blow jobs.[/QUOTE]
You have a lot to learn if you think that the police doesn't care about gringos who beat up brazilian women. Made me remember a french guy living in Bahia. He got jealous and gave his GF a black-eye. By chance I was speaking to the delegado at the police station when the girl and her friend told the police about the beating. The delegado got furious and sent three PMs who gave the gringo a beating he'll never forget.

Your worst concern should be if the locals get pissed at you for beating the girl. In best case scenario you'll end up at Copa D'Or. Go to VM and beat up some more girls and see what happens. The next day they'll serve you on the churrasco sticks they sell on the street.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1848717]As I read this, I am wondering what exactly is a "Mabs"? Is it an acronym for somewhere?

But, taking my laundry out this AM, I passed a restaurant on Avenida Atlantico called "Mabs", would that be the same place, and if, so what is the deal there? Is that the new Meia Pataca?[/QUOTE]It is the same place, from 11 pm there are working girls in this place, this place is more or less like Balcony in the past except there are few good looking women late in the night there are less and less women, normally the women charge from 100 to 800, it depends how you negotiate, it is better to negotiate only for one hour. Never for the night.

If you take a seat in the terrace there are some aggressive women that will try to pick you up for fast money even the ugly ones.

Had Luana for half hour. 250 for basic CBJ, some LFK. Asked for anal but quoted 150, passed. Gave 10 tip due to conversation in Portuguese at the end, was going to give nothing. She offered her Whatsup, I declined. None of the GDPs look like the pictures in the website. Unlikely to go back.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1848830]You have a lot to learn if you think that the police doesn't care about gringos who beat up brazilian women. Made me remember a french guy living in Bahia. He got jealous and gave his GF a black-eye. By chance I was speaking to the delegado at the police station when the girl and her friend told the police about the beating. The delegado got furious and sent three PMs who gave the gringo a beating he'll never forget.

Your worst concern should be if the locals get pissed at you for beating the girl. In best case scenario you'll end up at Copa D'Or. Go to VM and beat up some more girls and see what happens. The next day they'll serve you on the churrasco sticks they sell on the street.[/QUOTE]My experience was very different from the French guy, I was not in a relationship with the girl, I did not beat her for jealousy I just cut her hair and used my key that was not so dangerous when I got my money I stopped fighting with her and wait for the police to come, the police told me just be careful with the girls you take I just defended myself to get my money back, I did not say the police cares about gringos beating Brazilian women, couple fight and prostitute and client fight are two different things. Made remember a guy from Russia in the world cup beated a prostitute the guy had no problems every experience is different 4 months ago a guy from Sweden fought with a prostitute, in Copacabana nobody will kill any gringo who beated a prostitute, the only gringos that got killed or beated I know, it was in the beach for money reason or robbery. I also remembered one week ago, a Brazilian guy had forced sex with a garota without condom the police did nothing.

It is important not to mix up situations.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848338]We talked I thought she is nice OK I take her to a motel in Vidigal, I paid her money, and then she also asked me money for the taxi, I said we only fixed an amount but I said I can give you the money for the taxi later she said no I want now I said OK and then she told me I have to wait in the room because she needs to go downstairs to smoke I said OK but leave your bag here she said no I have to smoke but I will come back I said give my money when you come back I give your money back she said no I became crazy she tried to go out of the room but I stopped her from going out I closed the door she start shouting, I became crazier I stabbed her with my keys I used scissors to cut her hair and her bag I punched her face many times damn it was so good I succeeded in getting my money back from her bag and then the police came they said what happened, I said she tried to rob me and she wanted to attack me so I defended myself, the police arrested me they took me to the police station and they let me out after 2 hours. Snip[/QUOTE]Did you really need to stab her and punch her in the face "many times" to get the money back? Was she that much bigger than you that you couldn't just overpower her and take the money from her bag? And what does cutting her hair and her bag have to do with getting your money back? Seems like you enjoyed manhandling her rather than just trying to get your money back.

I went over to Mabs for dinner, the girls start showing up when the sun goes down. Yeah, the aggressive ones hit you up, but they all looked pretty battle hardened to me.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1848876]I also remembered one week ago, a Brazilian guy had forced sex with a garota without condom the police did nothing.[/QUOTE]You should still be concerned with "Favela Justice" or "Barrio Justice". I'm sure you've seen videos floating around on Facebook in where people had taken the law into their own hands (setting people on fire, beatings, holding people down and cutting their hair off, etc.).

A lot of times it's specifically because the "police did nothing".

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1848903]Did you really need to stab her and punch her in the face "many times" to get the money back? Was she that much bigger than you that you couldn't just overpower her and take the money from her bag? And what does cutting her hair and her bag have to do with getting your money back? Seems like you enjoyed manhandling her rather than just trying to get your money back.[/QUOTE]She is bigger than I am (big leg ass big tit) she is curvy and tall why not trying something different after going with many skinny and slim women, it is just a pity I had no sex with her, it is not easy to find this kind of lady it was not easy to get the money back, I just cut few hair, my objective was not to cut her hair, I was trying to cut her bag. I did not enjoy, I am just sharing my situation, it is no use judging a situation without being present.

The girl was stupid and not honest, I don't care about money, I prefer to lose or offer money to someone when we agree to the time, service or anything else than get ripped off, even 1 dollar. I don't like surprises.

I am educated, I have a good job in Tokyo I mongered in Russia, Czech Republic and Ukraine never had any problem with any girl there even in Brazil in the past before world cup. I am engaged and never beated or fought with my girlfriend.

Prostitutes are not angels too. As we say there are bad client and bad prostitutes. It is not always client's fault.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1848914]I went over to Mabs for dinner, the girls start showing up when the sun goes down. Yeah, the aggressive ones hit you up, but they all looked pretty battle hardened to me.[/QUOTE]Maybe they are all beautiful, you are not as picky as I am. For me there are good looking ones and many average and ugly ones. We can not discuss the taste, we are all different.

Yesterday I went to Massagem Tijuca. A nice privê that somehow reminds me of a brothel in the Wild West. The owner is the same one that owns Belprazer, Dudas, Emporio do Banho and another one in Barra. A good presentation. Both lightskinned and dark girls, horseasses and ponyasses and big tits and small tits.

I chose Ticiane.
[URL]http://www.massagemtijuca.com/equipe/[/URL]

Ticiane, 24 years, dark morena, really cute, very soft skin, normalsized firm tits (one kid) and a lovely hard bubblebutt. This girl enjoys sucking on her thumb. That maybe explains her good BBBJ skills. She performed very good in the first round. One minus because she was a bit lazy in the second round. Another minus because she didn't allow photos (she has a large tatoo on her ass).
R$160/60 min, 2 pops (R$140/40 min).

P.S There is a shower in the room. Be careful when taking the steps up to enter the shower cabin. Don't forget to open the glass door as I did. :)

Located near Termas 4X4, this is another pricey option. I went for the upgrade special, the 530 reales package, which provides more time in the room and a better room. I normally don't like to throw money around, but it was my last night in Rio.

March 5, day 4.

- went to Delirium Massages on Hilario de Gouveia 66, rm 201. Had a session with Hanna. Sweet girl. Long dark hair, really pretty, very pretty face. Natural body, light skin glowed like an argentine, but with a few stretchmarks from having a kid.

She is in relatively good shape by American standards. She has natural be cup bewbs. She has lips to die for, real DSLs! Massage in this place is just foreplay really. We made out, CBJ.

(ah, those lips. She was sweet about it, but you aren't going to argue your way out of this one), and sex was meh. Total was 250 bzr / HR.

- went to Monte Carlo in the evening. First time in a terma! Saw "Ania". 20 yr old well conditioned latina from deep in the amazon. Short dark hair, sweet face, very kissable lips. Oh yeah did I forget to mention she is in great shape?

She played with my pecker in the boliche while we made out. We really didn't talk too much, didn't have to. What can I say, making out, HJ, BBBJ, and sex. Salud! cost was standard 1 hr at that place.

March 6, day 5.

this time was unique. she was a girl who was referred to me privately. she came over and spent about 5 hours with me for 800bzr. suuuper sweetheart. helped me find a grocery store, helped me figure out my laundry machine,
helped an old lady who got knocked down and mugged, showed me a swanky bar i never knew existed right under my nose (and a side of Rio i didnt know existed), #goldensession, and i think i made a friend too? such character! such class!
sorry boys, not gonna give her name or describe her. just shared that because i am so absolutely floored by this place.
the women of the united hates of amerikkka...god damn them all. overall, they are nothing but an abomination of humanity.

March 8, day 7.

went to 4x4. 1 hr basic rm. what can i say that hasnt already been said? details arent important because everybody's written about this place, i am just chipping in to add to the legacy and confirm the findings. oh btw, what i did not expect was #goldensession
THAT part was special and uniquely mine :)

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1847518]We went to Florida in the center Sunday last week, we just stayed 20 minutes there is almost no garorta, only gays and transsexuals I asked the receptionist if there are garotas aki, people stared at me, the receptionist answered me there are few sometimes damn we picked a taxi to Florida for sh*t.

Which Florida are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Never been on a Sunday but I've had some nice girls there. It jumps off late. Never seen a tranny there in my life. Only one works the till.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;1848914]I went over to Mabs for dinner, the girls start showing up when the sun goes down. Yeah, the aggressive ones hit you up, but they all looked pretty battle hardened to me.[/QUOTE]Tuesday night and Wed night the selection was quite good (around midnight). Much better than the balcony days.

Tuesday I picked a girl from Mabs it was 2. 30 am, her name is Sandra, slim, white, green eyes, brown hair, 5 feet 9, she is from Barra the Tijuca, she works 3 4 times a month in Mabs, 150 reais we stayed two hours in Noso hotel (Vidigal).

Very nice, very patient, talkative, the service was good.

No pay front.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1849810]Never been on a Sunday but I've had some nice girls there. It jumps off late. Never seen a tranny there in my life. Only one works the till.[/QUOTE]Which day do you normally go to Florida? What time?

I was in Florida Sunday there were many gays and trannies, it was late Sunday.

So it appears the local law enforcement were out around 2:30 am to 3:30 am at Mabs, showing a tour of force. Not sure if anyone was arrested, but apparently they were looking for und3rage girls, which is a tactic they often will employ, to bring about and justify there raids and harassment of such establishments. Not sure if they found any, but their show of force sent many of Mabs customers girls and guys alike, scattering to the four winds, with some girls taking to the streets to finish earning their keep for the night. Well it may be the start of the end for Mabs.

So went there for a couple of drinks Wed night. Many young women but few stunner. Saw very pretty and a little bit Asian looking Paloma. She's 20,1. 59. Chatted a bit. Asked for 500, went down to 400 and then 300 (no anal). I probably could have haggled some more but she was really pretty and all natural. Paid 80 for drinks, 80 to take her out and 15 for tip or something.

The results:

Light kissing, tit sucking, DATY, DATO, CBJ and then CG, Doggie, and finish sort of missionary.

Overall, while her performance could have been better, she enjoyed mine which was a plus. Likely to repeat, time permitting.

With my three months in Brazil ending soon I wanted one last GP today. I went to Angels Massagem which had two new girls, Gabi and Duda. I chose Duda.

Duda, 21 years, morena clara, very cute, lovely eyes, slim, fit, small nice tits (one kid) and a smallsized very beautiful round ass. Very good BBBJ, excellent f*cking and ended with BBBJCIM. Extra plus for good posing for photos. R$90/30 min.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1850137]With my three months in Brazil ending soon I wanted one last GP today. I went to Angels Massagem which had two new girls, Gabi and Duda. I chose Duda.

Duda, 21 years, morena clara, very cute, lovely eyes, slim, fit, small nice tits (one kid) and a smallsized very beautiful round ass. Very good BBBJ, excellent f*cking and ended with BBBJCIM. Extra plus for good posing for photos. R$90/30 min.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your wisdom and reports, as usual.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1850137] Extra plus for good posing for photos.[/QUOTE]I hope you're going to reward us with a few of those photos Sperto hehehehe!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1850152]Thank you for your wisdom and reports, as usual.[/QUOTE]
You´re welcome.
[QUOTE=The Cane;1850166]I hope you're going to reward us with a few of those photos Sperto hehehehe![/QUOTE]
Maybe or maybe not. The photo section is absolutely dead as nobody cares to share their photos.
This trip the GPs have been very generous with posing for photos. I appreciate that as I enjoy taking photos of beautiful women.

Now the last old quiosque in Leme-Copacabana is hustory. That is the two quiosques in front of ex-Balcony which often were frequented by some GPs until sunrise.
Sad.

Started in MV30- grabbed a stunning morena with long curly hair and nice natural boobies-Peorela-21.

She is a freak and half- squirted twice and messed up the bed-BBBJ with enthusiasm and loved to fcuk.

350 for an hour including quite a few drinks.

Move on to T31- place jumpin like mv- 1800-2000 hours +.

Cuties.

Moved on to VM- found about 4 diamonds- Latinas and negras. Some with iDGAF attitude so didn't session but grabbed a latina / negra-.

Who spazzed out in the room a bit and try to re-neg so I had to threaten to go to the madam who I know. Killed vibe a bit. 100 for an hour.

BBBJ though and wanted me to BB her and come inside. No way.

Ended at Florida about midnight- grabbed a tall negra with a piercing in lip for an hour-300.

Great way to end the night with great tongue-kissing, BBBJ and great fuck and I used the suoer pink vibrator on her and she came again and ended sittin on her while she BBBJ's me until I CIM.

All while I used PINK on her which always guarantees a great performance on both sides.

Forgot her name, tall with curly hair and red lipstick-unmissable. Nice natural tits and hard ass. In shape.

Florida raised prices 100 per hour. Safados! Kkk.

Didn't take any names-didn't give a fcuk really-one of those nights!

Got an EX-VM hottie comin tomorrow for nothing but food, transport, love, drinks and affection.

She was only ever there about 3 times in total to buy that new phone, tv,fan, fridge-!

Shit is real!

Enjoy-the madness continues! Big up PatmarBeleza and Cartman.

Last few days I've laid low, still haven't gone to VM and only just over a week left in Rio. For a couple days a cute loira from So Paulo interior had come to visit me. She is here for a few more hours then heads back. I don't get the obsession with women working out their legs, it's weird but looks awesome. Only pics she let me take were of these sweets. Can you tell how muscly her thighs are, great ass too. Third person she's fucked apparently and I must admit, tightest pussy I've ever had, uncomfortably so at the beginning but after a little banging stretched out nicely. She turned 28 recently, has a good job, no talk of money whatsoever. I am seriously considering going to Manaus in about a week's time. Which of the following hotels are girl friendly in Manaus: Eco suites, go inn, ibis or intercity?

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1850756]Last few days I've laid low, still haven't gone to VM and only just over a week left in Rio. For a couple days a cute loira from So Paulo interior had come to visit me. She is here for a few more hours then heads back. I don't get the obsession with women working out their legs, it's weird but looks awesome. Only pics she let me take were of these sweets. Can you tell how muscly her thighs are, great ass too. Third person she's fucked apparently and I must admit, tightest pussy I've ever had, uncomfortably so at the beginning but after a little banging stretched out nicely. She turned 28 recently, has a good job, no talk of money whatsoever. I am seriously considering going to Manaus in about a week's time. Which of the following hotels are girl friendly in Manaus: Eco suites, go inn, ibis or intercity?[/QUOTE]That is very strange. Why would a non-pro have an issue with you taking pictures of her? 99.99% of brasileiras absolutely love to take fotos and post them on their facebook and instagram. (Is she married?

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1850756]Last few days I've laid low, still haven't gone to VM and only just over a week left in Rio. For a couple days a cute loira from So Paulo interior had come to visit me. She is here for a few more hours then heads back. I don't get the obsession with women working out their legs, it's weird but looks awesome. Only pics she let me take were of these sweets. Can you tell how muscly her thighs are, great ass too. Third person she's fucked apparently and I must admit, tightest pussy I've ever had, uncomfortably so at the beginning but after a little banging stretched out nicely. She turned 28 recently, has a good job, no talk of money whatsoever. I am seriously considering going to Manaus in about a week's time. Which of the following hotels are girl friendly in Manaus: Eco suites, go inn, ibis or intercity?[/QUOTE]IBIS always. But make res for 2 people ans check them in and out personally at reception.

The amount of rain that fell yesterday, between 19 and 21, was equivalent of 45% expected for the entire month of March. Floodings all over the city. Flamengo was like a big lake, the same in Praça da Bandeira, Barra, Meier, Tijuca etc. We got stuck in a taxi on Av Presidente Vargas, very chaotic scenes.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1849953]Which day do you normally go to Florida? What time?

I was in Florida Sunday there were many gays and trannies, it was late Sunday.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience in December, when I tried to go on a Sunday. It was the only place open and I decided to check it out for the first time. When I arrived, the lady at the door gave me a weird look (like do you really want to go in there) and warned me that there was a festa de gays inside. I thanked her and promptly left. This was about 5 or 6 in the evening.

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1851264]I had the same experience in December, when I tried to go on a Sunday. It was the only place open and I decided to check it out for the first time. When I arrived, the lady at the door gave me a weird look (like do you really want to go in there) and warned me that there was a festa de gays inside. I thanked her and promptly left. This was about 5 or 6 in the evening.[/QUOTE]Florida Bar has spruced up a few bits and have put up the program from 200 to 300 for an hour!

Everyday except Sunday is RELEVANT FOR THIS FORUM.

I grabbed a good one there Friday night-BBBJ / CIM-tall negra. Fit. In shape. Got there about 2330. Jumps off about 01-02 am.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1851069]The amount of rain that fell yesterday, between 19 and 21, was equivalent of 45% expected for the entire month of March. Floodings all over the city. Flamengo was like a big lake, the same in Praa da Bandeira, Barra, Meier, Tijuca etc. We got stuck in a taxi on Av Presidente Vargas, very chaotic scenes.[/QUOTE]Nossa Senhora had 40 centimeter deep puddles everywhere! Was not good! That time of year! Summer is over!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1850854]IBIS always. But make res for 2 people ans check them in and out personally at reception.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your input but why the ibis? It seems a long way from the centre of town. Couldn't I do what you suggest at the other hotels without paying a fee?

Also to the other guy, no she's not married. I was able to take a couple other pics of her.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1851684]Florida Bar has spruced up a few bits and have put up the program from 200 to 300 for an hour!

Everyday except Sunday is RELEVANT FOR THIS FORUM.

I grabbed a good one there Friday night-BBBJ / CIM-tall negra. Fit. In shape. Got there about 2330. Jumps off about 01-02 am.[/QUOTE]The tall girls are really girls? I have a brazilian friend that told me Florida is a mixture of transexuals and girls, I know Sunday is a gay day only men and transexuals, but transexuals are there everyday.

200 reails and 300 reails for an hour? Room included same price as Copacabana.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1851894]The tall girls are really girls? I have a brazilian friend that told me Florida is a mixture of transexuals and girls, I know Sunday is a gay day only men and transexuals, but transexuals are there everyday.

200 reails and 300 reails for an hour? Room included same price as Copacabana.[/QUOTE]I've been comin there for 3 years and never seen one and sessioned with quite a few and took 2 out of there-one of whom I still see as a fuck buddy.

Intel is off. 300 for hour incl room. Sunday I have never been-can't comment. Most GDPs don't work sundays -even VM trash stay home for the most part.

They might make a house call though. One did for me this Sunday gone. 200 for 24 hours. Got to love VM.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1851770]I appreciate your input but why the ibis? It seems a long way from the centre of town. Couldn't I do what you suggest at the other hotels without paying a fee?

Also to the other guy, no she's not married. I was able to take a couple other pics of her.[/QUOTE]Possibly but IBIS lets you check them in and out daily-the others might get funny and charge you after first one leaves. Shouldn't do.

Shit I had 4 at Best Western Ipanema in 7 days-stayin over-comin and goin so can happen.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1850756]I am seriously considering going to Manaus in about a week's time. Which of the following hotels are girl friendly in Manaus: Eco suites, go inn, ibis or intercity?[/QUOTE]
GF hotels in Manaus? You propably get better response if you put your question in the Manaus thread. Eco Suites is located right in Centro. Go Inn is located close to Teatro Amazonas and Remulos. Intercity is far away. Ibis is even further away, about 7 km away from Centro. FuckAfMedDig, an experienced Manaus veteran :), strongly recommends Ibis in Manaus so it's probably a good choice. My experience is that just about all hotels are girlfriendly in Manaus, with or without a fee. Just email them and ask, or try to do some RTFF in the Manaus thread.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1852030]Possibly but IBIS lets you check them in and out daily-the others might get funny and charge you after first one leaves. Shouldn't do.

Shit I had 4 at Best Western Ipanema in 7 days-stayin over-comin and goin so can happen.[/QUOTE]Excellent, I booked the ibis for 3 weeks. Much appreciated. Any suggestions on what to do in Rio for my remaining 3/4 days mongering wise?

So far I've got: go to VM, & go to euro spa in barra de tijuca (all of their "equipe" look amazing).

Sperto I was going to ask if you woke up agitated or something? Then I realised you're just a bit. Well you know. Just kidding. Keep up the good work. Can we see some pictures from you? I read a lot on the manaus forum. There seems to be a lack of info between 2014 and 2016 a huge gap!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1852162]GF hotels in Manaus? You propably get better response if you put your question in the Manaus thread. Eco Suites is located right in Centro. Go Inn is located close to Teatro Amazonas and Remulos. Intercity is far away. Ibis is even further away, about 7 km away from Centro. FuckAfMedDig, an experienced Manaus veteran :), strongly recommends Ibis in Manaus so it's probably a good choice. My experience is that just about all hotels are girlfriendly in Manaus, with or without a fee. Just email them and ask, or try to do some RTFF in the Manaus thread.[/QUOTE]Its probably inconvenient in manaus-was just saying in general its a safe bet re GF anywhere in Brasil-.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1852274]Sperto I was going to ask if you woke up agitated or something? Then I realised you're just a bit. Well you know. Just kidding. Keep up the good work. Can we see some pictures from you? I read a lot on the manaus forum. There seems to be a lack of info between 2014 and 2016 a huge gap![/QUOTE]
Not agitated at all. I just tried to help you out. You booked Ibis. Ibis in Manaus is located in an industrial bairro, far away from centro, mongering clubs (Remulos etc), Teatro Amazonas, forró clubs and even farther from the Ponta Negra beach. Prepare yourself for some hefty taxi bills. In January I made an update on Manaus. I've nothing more to add to that info.

How is the rains holding up there? I have RTFF but still want to ask the seniors to suggest the best places for mongering during this time of the year. I have like 300 BRL per day mongering budget, will I get a threesome at any of the casas during the week? I am a sucker for the fair skin and the grande culos.

Hey guys,

Anyone know what it'll be like on Thurs / Fri (March 24 and 25) in Rio as far as the GDP action goes?

I know in Colombia things are pretty dead.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Balboa;1853610]Hey guys,

Anyone know what it'll be like on Thurs / Fri (March 24 and 25) in Rio as far as the GDP action goes?

I know in Colombia things are pretty dead.

Thanks![/QUOTE]You should be fine Thursday. Good Friday do not count on anything being open. Monte Carlo will be open on Saturday but for the most part you will have to wait until Monday for Centro which is normal for termas.

Double post. So I'll share some pictures of a GDP I had lots of fun with on last trip.

Rio makes me love fake tits (:

[QUOTE=Balboa;1853610]Hey guys,

Anyone know what it'll be like on Thurs / Fri (March 24 and 25) in Rio as far as the GDP action goes?

I know in Colombia things are pretty dead.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I was in Rio during multiple Easters. I find that you can call before those two days and arrange for one of the GDP escorts to come to you Thursday / Friday, most don't really take those days off (many girls like from Riosexsite or Barravips etc work during that time, but don't call them on same day, call a day before just in case).

Also, if you have previous contacts from Termas, those will oblige too.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1853610]Hey guys,

Anyone know what it'll be like on Thurs / Fri (March 24 and 25) in Rio as far as the GDP action goes?

I know in Colombia things are pretty dead.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Similar to Colombia, for Good Friday, you'll need to make plans ahead of time, or you won't be getting any pussy. Best to make plans with someone you've been with before and get along with (more likely she'll show up).

On Saturday, things start picking up again (like in Colombia).

What's up everybody, making a maiden voyage to the land of Bunda. This will only be a short trip to Rio in April before I take my vacation in October, I live in the Bahamas so being near the beach is not a deal breaker for me. When I visit a country I like to stay where the locals live (not a favaela) not ready for that yet LOL, I am looking into.

Apartments any suggestions on areas to stay don't want to be in the tourist trap areas, I saw a few places in the Gloria and Catete areas read that they are safe neighborhoods. Also on average what is a safe amount to spend per day for everything with a few trips to a love motel.

Looking forward to hearing from the vets of the site also if it is OK to PM a fee for advice.

Hi fellas,

I am staying in Lapa district for a few days and wondered if I'll find much action near by.

Also if anyone wants to meet up for a beer and some craic just message me on here.

Can't fucking wait.

The term Morena is not listed in the abbreviations and the dictionary is confusing is it a black girl with light skin or white girl with dark skin. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1855494]The term Morena is not listed in the abbreviations and the dictionary is confusing is it a black girl with light skin or white girl with dark skin. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's a girl with dark skin. So I guess both descriptions can conceivably be right, depending on how you think a black girl with light skin differs from a white girl with dark skin.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1855494]The term Morena is not listed in the abbreviations and the dictionary is confusing is it a black girl with light skin or white girl with dark skin. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Its a white girl with dark skin or a native american(also called indigena) or a latina. But many are mixed w black or mixed race so its confusing. That's mulatto. Enjoy the rainbow here.

I have had a mad trip here this time-mixture of gdps, non-pros, girlfriends but then female lightning struck as only it can in Brazil-for me.

Caught a stunner-18 in Cancun-latina / mixed race. Think young Vanity. She's now staying with me from tonight till I leave Monday. No fee. Namorada. It can happen. Need to put in work there and.

Get her to commit a day to hanging and really put in work.and a charm offensive.Most local dudes dont know how to treat their women..i dont mean buying stufff allthough a good meal is a help,but understand what she likes,dont take a diamond hood chick to sushi leblon-she most likely doesnt like it or doesnt care-she wants good simple stuff..geat steak,feijao,arroz,fritas!kkkk-show her you understand her.

Alot of their socializing takes place in the boate...yes theyll have a saturday night etc but many do meet some they fall for....Last night me and wingman took 2 out of Subsolo-rio branco. Late night spot. 10-4 am.

Decent venue. Not scumbag like Florida.

I took a girl who loves hip hop, is a dancer and looked like Tinashe-the mixed RnB star from US.

My friend took a puerto rican porn star looking freak who I had at mv30. Squirt queen. 21.

300 for per noite + day time untill 5 pm. Was good. CIM + bareback if wanted.

I have been walking around Copa yesterday and today getting my bearings back. I was.
approached by 2 ladies at different times on Prado Junior late afternoon yesterday 1 negra
late 20's and and one white MILF with huge naturals. I declined both. Popped into mabs to see what
this place is like ad had one Skol and there were afew in there, but had arranged to meet a BrazilCupid. I'm doing the same
again tonight and hope to do a Centro Termas run tomorrow afternoon.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1855494]The term Morena is not listed in the abbreviations and the dictionary is confusing is it a black girl with light skin or white girl with dark skin. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Morena is a dark haired female. Loira is a Blonde. Ruiva is a Red head. These three terms have nothing to do with skin color. Mulata is your dark skinned or mixed race female.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1857747]Morena is a dark haired female. Loira is a Blonde. Ruiva is a Red head. These three terms have nothing to do with skin color. Mulata is your dark skinned or mixed race female.[/QUOTE]Mulata is mixed race, negra is dark skinned allthough many mulatas of course identify themselves as negras.

I don't know the correct defintion of races in Brazil, and it really doesn't matter to me. It only matters when I make notes in my f*ck-book (a book where all my girls end up with details of just about everything, tit-size, performance, CIM etc and race).

I classify the girls by my own rules:
* Negra/preta: "Black" girl, african looking.
* Mulata: Mixed but quite dark and with african features.
* Morena: Coloured girl, but lighter than a mulata and without strong african features.
* Branca: White girl.
* India: Descendant from indians (Amazonas etc).

Has anyone reported on the cost of Coconuts recently?

All this discussion of the various terms for Brazilian women, like pretzels, is making me thirsty.

Isn't there also morena clara?

Went out last Thursday to Centro.

Checked out Ur24, very noisy, very hot, and nothing but dumpy garotas on this day, so I split.

Decided to hit an American Bar I found a while back on the same street, had a couple of nice looking girls, nothing spectacular, but nice.

So I decided to partake, since I was feeling the need, LOL.

Cost about 60 are, OK rooms, AC, made a contact for future calls.

I'll find the address, and post it.

Had a nice dinner, sitting at an outside table, checking out the people strolling by.

Amazing, had a mixed grill, with salad and fries and a natural juice for about 40 are!

Got to love o Centro!

I knew I was going to check out VM late night, so for now I wanted to try somewhere I've never been.

I had thoughts of returning to 4 x 4, but I've been there already a few times, so I decided on Cancun.

Walked to the place at about 8 pm, the door guys outside said there was at least 80 beautiful girls inside the boate, which I kind of expected to be a huge exaggeration, and it was, LOL.

Cost 70 are to enter, but all goes toward consumption, so not bad.

Inside the boate, maybe 25-30 garotas, only 1 or 2 that I was really attracted to, nothing amazing that grabbed me though.

Chatted a bit, bought a couple drinks for some girls, people watched a bit, and split.

Not worth 350 are plus to me for service, just wanted kill some time and check it out really.

Off to VM at about 11 pm.

I've been there many times now, and have learned which places generally have at least OK rooms, and which are nasty, LOL.

Definitely not a place for everyone, however, I kind of enjoy walking about, chatting it up, looking for a beauty.

Actually found 2 beauties that night, both in bars that have OK rooms for fun.

I wish MABs had girls this good looking, but most often they don't.

Overall, a really fun day and evening.

Made some good contacts too!

Think I'll make another run tonight or tomorrow!

I decided to give this place a shot on an evening time. It does make me laugh how all the ladies
line up in front of the restaurant and then move about every 10 minutes to different area to get more show.

A fit blonde with slim body and nice little bubble but introduced herself and as she sat down asked for caipivodka!

She had not even told me here name and asked for a 20 real drink! I told her leave which she did not find
amusing.

Nothing really caught my eye so I left and as I was walking out, there was a morena waiting outside. She ticked all the boxes.
but became a ***** as soon as we entered my apartment. She wanted money up front, so I opened up the front door and said I would
walk her downstairs. She changed her mind. She attempted to rush through the foreplay but I told her what we agreed on time etc.

I think she is used to getting her own way and being a ***** she also attempted to ask for taxi money as she left!

Anyways 250 reals for about 1. 5 hours of her time. Sex was ok but nothing special.

Hello folks,

Well first of all thanks for all the postings. Its been interesting to read the reviews, the advice and even some of the little debates. I am now in Rio and looking at visiting some of the places that have been listed, might just start with Mabs just to see what this infamous place is like.

I think its going to be very interesting for me in this City. Might even bum into a few of you.

Thanks.

A friend who speaks limited Portuguese told me that he went to 65 today and it was shuttered. He was told by someone sitting outside that 65 was closed permanently. Because there is a high probability that he misunderstood, I was hoping the forum could shed some light on this subject.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;1858156]A friend who speaks limited Portuguese told me that he went to 65 today and it was shuttered. He was told by someone sitting outside that 65 was closed permanently. Because there is a high probability that he misunderstood, I was hoping the forum could shed some light on this subject.[/QUOTE]I heard they shut due to refusing to pay an increase in bribe money. You saw movie Taken?. Rent just went up 10%! Want to offend me?-rent just went up 20%!LOL.

Then again might re-open if they settle the bill or re-open under new ownership using a different name.

Anyone whos on the ground still-I just left) -let us know if it re-opens. Abraco.

[QUOTE=TheWatcher;1858156]A friend who speaks limited Portuguese told me that he went to 65 today and it was shuttered. He was told by someone sitting outside that 65 was closed permanently. Because there is a high probability that he misunderstood, I was hoping the forum could shed some light on this subject.[/QUOTE]If so -imo-won't be a great loss anyway to be honest. It was expensive, boring with a sterile, upmarket vibe and full of average chicks to me. I pulled one out of there once from Macapa but that's about it.

[QUOTE=Combo;1619797]There are always exceptions to the rule. Just not advisable to count on being the exception.[/QUOTE]Correct. There are also differences within GDPs.

Some are puta de sangue as they say in Brasil- hoe in the blood. Some are dirt poor.

Some have 4/5 family members depending on them and a sick parent-some do it to get through university, some do it untill they are too old.

Some do it 1 month and never again. It is alot of money to suddenly not have -I find this the major obstacle for GDP trying to quit.

That level of income- maybe 600 reais a day for some is not possible without a great job.

What are the alternatives?

Get married to a gringo, have a kid- (in Brazil they make you pay up! You will get a permanent residence in exchange.

Get married and then get divorced.

I met one recently who just turned 18 and has 2 parents with cancer and 4 others depending on her.

She has done it 1 month but wants to quit and study ASAP.

I don't believe those will return.

Avoid marriage and enjoy each other's company I say.

Contacted a Mulata from this site age 25. She says she's at University. I arranged to meet
her at 13.00 and she says she's going to be abit late. I started to think it maybe a fake profile
as she kept delaying until she finally shows up at 14.40. Lucky as I was about to cab it 502.

Even the doorman here was impressed, as he gave me a cheeky smile as we walked past.

Again another one who asked for money upfront which she said she asked all her clients for!

She arived in a bright red dress and her large natural breasts were bouncing through it. No kids
although had abit of a pot belly but it was bot too bad. A nice donkey ass and skin so smooth.

I did not last long with her but all positions were achieved finished by CIM. Nothing was rushed and she was
in no hurry to leave. stayed well over the hour! 150 reals for 1 hour. I think I may repeat with this one.

Hey guys,

Been reading the thread for a number of weeks now, any reliable sources on where I can find up to date pricing for the likes of 4 x 4 & Monte Carlo?

Have come across various wikis but some seem to be out of date.

Going to be in Rio next month & want to plan my itinerary, definitely hoping to get a dupla on the go in either or both.

Am also interested in the likes of Eden Spa & [URL]http://viptherapy.com.br/[/URL] which have their prices listed upfront on their sites.

Also will I be in trouble at the likes of the aforementioned if I don't speak any Portuguese?

Fellas, I know I PMd some of you in regards to a spring break trip to Rio. I've decided against it and instead will be coming down end of the year 2016, even possibly early 2017.

My 3 main reasons are this.

1. I'd like to spend 8-10 weeks in Brazil rather than a meager 10 days. I have a 4 month downtime due to change of jobs and I'll have some good savings to travel pretty well.

2. I will really need to learn some Portuguese to really enjoy my stay. I speak English and some French. I think 8 months of study with courses and weekly Portuguese meetups should have me at an advanced conversational level.

3. Better prices. With Olympics around the corner, I want to go during low season to get the best bang for my buck.

I'll still keep and eye out on this blog and will keep the members that PMd me some useful info updated on my progress.

Till then.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1858557]Fellas, I know I PMd some of you in regards to a spring break trip to Rio. I've decided against it and instead will be coming down end of the year 2016, even possibly early 2017... ... I want to go during low season to get the best bang for my buck.[/QUOTE]The end of the year and early 2017 is high season (Dezember-February).

[QUOTE=Sperto;1858713]The end of the year and early 2017 is high season (Dezember-February).[/QUOTE]Really? Is that because of Christmas and Carnival? Either way, that is when I have the most flexibility and will have the time to dedicate 8-10 weeks.

I really have to practice my Portuguese for an optimal stay.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1858557]Fellas, I know I PMd some of you in regards to a spring break trip to Rio. I've decided against it and instead will be coming down end of the year 2016, even possibly early 2017.

My 3 main reasons are this.

1. I'd like to spend 8-10 weeks in Brazil rather than a meager 10 days. I have a 4 month downtime due to change of jobs and I'll have some good savings to travel pretty well.

2. I will really need to learn some Portuguese to really enjoy my stay. I speak English and some French. I think 8 months of study with courses and weekly Portuguese meetups should have me at an advanced conversational level.

3. Better prices. With Olympics around the corner, I want to go during low season to get the best bang for my buck.

I'll still keep and eye out on this blog and will keep the members that PMd me some useful info updated on my progress.

Till then.[/QUOTE]BEST time to go IMO is 2nd week of January. It's summer for them, all the semi's are back home from college and want to make some extra $$ The rentals are cheaper (it is a totaly shit show for new years and prices are insane! Stay there, lock something down before carnival if you want and then enjot that lovely time. I've gone a bunch and January is hands down ALWAYS my favorite.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1858717]Really? Is that because of Christmas and Carnival? Either way, that is when I have the most flexibility and will have the time to dedicate 8-10 weeks.

I really have to practice my Portuguese for an optimal stay.[/QUOTE]For sure many of the girls take vacation beginning of January.

It is too hot for my liking but what's said is true.

All the girls want to be around for carnival to make $.

Bear in mind school / uni / work starts again after carnival so girls are suddenly tied up weekdays daytime or night time some times (study hours in Brazil are many times either day OR night.

My favorite time is April to end of June and September to end of November-purely climatic as 45 + degrees kills me. I did Rio once mid Jan. Never again. And this time in February from 23rd was pretty bad too-climate wise.

Girls are hungry all year.

[QUOTE=Andro69;1858501]Hey guys,

Been reading the thread for a number of weeks now, any reliable sources on where I can find up to date pricing for the likes of 4 x 4 & Monte Carlo?

Have come across various wikis but some seem to be out of date.

Going to be in Rio next month & want to plan my itinerary, definitely hoping to get a dupla on the go in either or both.

Am also interested in the likes of Eden Spa & [URL]http://viptherapy.com.br/[/URL] which have their prices listed upfront on their sites.

Also will I be in trouble at the likes of the aforementioned if I don't speak any Portuguese?[/QUOTE]You won't be in trouble with no portuguese at MC or 4 x 4 but it will restrict some action with some girls for prolonged time and also inhibit possibilities of a bit deeper involvement leading to freebie sex continuously so.

By all means learn. Price at MC last month was like 330 for girl for an hour,100 entry,110 for room. Its a costly place. 4 x 4 is a little less.

I personally can't go to those spots anymore as cheaper and better options are available quite easily as is the non-pro game (requires portuguese) -I didn't succeed with Brazilian non-pros untill I spoke portuguese.

Took a couple years in earnest. It also helps with GDPS in termas in terms of building a better vibe with them where they can be themselves a bit better with you.

Hi,

I am thinking of heading to MABS on Friday night to see what its all about Sort of breaking my MABS virginity so too speak, but not sure if sex will be involved LOL.

I have read all the posts and various snippets so you never know I might bump into a few of you there. Do we have ISG badgers to wear?

MT99

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1858902]You won't be in trouble with no portuguese at MC or 4 x 4 but it will restrict some action with some girls for prolonged time and also inhibit possibilities of a bit deeper involvement leading to freebie sex continuously so.

By all means learn. Price at MC last month was like 330 for girl for an hour,100 entry,110 for room. Its a costly place. 4 x 4 is a little less.

I personally can't go to those spots anymore as cheaper and better options are available quite easily as is the non-pro game (requires portuguese) -I didn't succeed with Brazilian non-pros untill I spoke portuguese.

Took a couple years in earnest. It also helps with GDPS in termas in terms of building a better vibe with them where they can be themselves a bit better with you.[/QUOTE]How much Portuguese would do you think is needed for non-pro's just regular girls. Conversational, Intermediate or fluent. When I come down I would have done some study and supplemental meetups in the states for about 4-5 months.

I'd like to try the pro side, but also get some non-pro action.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1858794]For sure many of the girls take vacation beginning of January.

It is too hot for my liking but what's said is true.

All the girls want to be around for carnival to make $.

Bear in mind school / uni / work starts again after carnival so girls are suddenly tied up weekdays daytime or night time some times (study hours in Brazil are many times either day OR night.

My favorite time is April to end of June and September to end of November-purely climatic as 45 + degrees kills me. I did Rio once mid Jan. Never again. And this time in February from 23rd was pretty bad too-climate wise.

Girls are hungry all year.[/QUOTE]I've liked in Lagos, Nigeria year round so I'm quite familiar with what to expect temperature wise. Like you said, girls are hungry all year.

My biggest concern now, is how much Portuguese I will need to excel in both pro and non pro activity. I plan to be here for 8-10 weeks, but plan to study portuguese at my local university here in the USA for 4-5 months before hand. Also, there are some bi-weekly Portuguese meet up groups I plan to attend as well. Could you give me some advice as to how I should approach studying portuguese.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1859457]How much Portuguese would do you think is needed for non-pro's just regular girls. Conversational, Intermediate or fluent. When I come down I would have done some study and supplemental meetups in the states for about 4-5 months.

I'd like to try the pro side, but also get some non-pro action.[/QUOTE]For the pro side not much is needed if you are dealing with termas.

Obviously you won't get to know them in any depth due to lack of porto.

The upmarket spots have girls who speak a bit of english.

I would say it took me 8 months before I started having major success with non-pros off Brazil cupid where I've met basically all my non-pros bar a few.

I had one-to-one lessons in portugues on skype-more intense but I also went there every 3 months for 3 weeks and spoke as much as possible so I could learn the real speed / lingo as much as possible.

For me to have like girlfriends in normal manner took over a year of speaking ID say.

It is critical in Brazil to speak.

ID say 90% of the girls I've been with-even turning gdps in termas into mini girlfriends would never have been possible without portugues.

None of the girls I met on cupid spoke english.

I've been hit by maybe 7-800 on there. None spoke really.

Dive in and emmerse yourself for the best cultural experience. I know dudes who still get gringoed somewhat on 5th visit + because they never bothered to learn. You just limit your opportunities to opportunists who flock to the tourist mouse-traps like MC, Centaurus etc.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1859459]I've liked in Lagos, Nigeria year round so I'm quite familiar with what to expect temperature wise. Like you said, girls are hungry all year.

My biggest concern now, is how much Portuguese I will need to excel in both pro and non pro activity. I plan to be here for 8-10 weeks, but plan to study portuguese at my local university here in the USA for 4-5 months before hand. Also, there are some bi-weekly Portuguese meet up groups I plan to attend as well. Could you give me some advice as to how I should approach studying portuguese.[/QUOTE]One-to-one lessons with fluent speaker and watching television as much as possible. Speed of talking is a shock when you land-this a teacher won't teach you so watching news, novellas etc will help.

Its still the hardest part for me to due the many accents, speeds there. Regional pronounciations vary alot. Minas, Nordeste, SP,Rio. All totally different. And in Rio you have many as well depending on social class, area etc.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1857894]Has anyone reported on the cost of Coconuts recently?[/QUOTE]
No, nobody made a decent report on the coconut price recently. Propably because all the posters in this thread are sitting behind their desks back home, discussing topics not related to Rio.
Psst, I let you in the big secret. You can get the coconut cheaper if you buy one that's not chilled. It will be even cheaper if you buy one directly from the coconut-truck which pass the orla in the morning around 6 AM. You can even get the coconut for free if you climb the palm tree yourself.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1859577]No, nobody made a decent report on the coconut price recently. Propably because all the posters in this thread are sitting behind their desks back home, discussing topics not related to Rio.
Psst, I let you in the big secret. You can get the coconut cheaper if you buy one that's not chilled. It will be even cheaper if you buy one directly from the coconut-truck which pass the orla in the morning around 6 AM. You can even get the coconut for free if you climb the palm tree yourself.[/QUOTE]I saw that firsthand walking along Avenida Atlntica in Copacabana. The guy was up the tree knocking the coconuts down onto of his sack below. Unfortunately, one hit a coconut in the bag just right and was propel out into the street. He slid down the tree like it was a fireman's pole and scurried out into the street to retrieve the errant coconut impervious to oncoming traffic. Reminded me of that squirrel chasing the nut in the movie [I]Ice Age[/I]. Sometimes the best entertainment is free.

My amigo BjjDom got me her number while we were sitting at mabs one night.

I was there again but on my own and decided to leave after a coke hoar
was kicked out by security.

She was stood outside with her amiga. The 2 hour quote was now 250 reals
completa. Previously 500 via whatsapp message.

Got a cab back and it was relaxed listening to music and drinking. She took
along time to shower and eventually we are on the bed. She allowed photos but no face.
She backed down on anal and CIM and ass soon as we finished complained there was
no more beer and had the cheek to ask for taxi fare back to mabs.

Very sweet girl aged 25 always smiling but just lazy ass f*.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1859929]My amigo BjjDom got me her number while we were sitting at mabs one night.

I was there again but on my own and decided to leave after a coke hoar
was kicked out by security.

She was stood outside with her amiga. The 2 hour quote was now 250 reals
completa. Previously 500 via whatsapp message.

Got a cab back and it was relaxed listening to music and drinking. She took
along time to shower and eventually we are on the bed. She allowed photos but no face.
She backed down on anal and CIM and ass soon as we finished complained there was
no more beer and had the cheek to ask for taxi fare back to mabs.

Very sweet girl aged 25 always smiling but just lazy ass f*.[/QUOTE]Did she get 250 before or after the deed?

This is the problem with freelancers-there is no manager of a terma to complain to, no one to hold responsible.

If that was agreed and she then re-negged, that's a discount right there. 200!kkk.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1859563]One-to-one lessons with fluent speaker and watching television as much as possible. Speed of talking is a shock when you land-this a teacher won't teach you so watching news, novellas etc will help.

Its still the hardest part for me to due the many accents, speeds there. Regional pronounciations vary alot. Minas, Nordeste, SP,Rio. All totally different. And in Rio you have many as well depending on social class, area etc.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I think studying is one thing, but like you said, immersion is the best. I think it's easier when you are bombarded with the language. It helps your brain pick up much faster because of the constant learning.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1860157]Thank you. I think studying is one thing, but like you said, immersion is the best. I think it's easier when you are bombarded with the language. It helps your brain pick up much faster because of the constant learning.[/QUOTE]Study Portuguese grammar, read any Portuguese texts as much as possible. You will always catch some new words from the context, while reading, even not having a dictionary by your side. It also helps you to learn correct language.

As Fuckafmeddig said watching tv is the most important part. It's the best way to learn to understand spoken language if you don't have somebody speaking to you personally. You can also listen to music and using app like Musixmatch you get the lyrics for the songs.

Some girls I understand almost perfectly and the others not so well. I'm constantly trying to improve my Portuguese to get most out of my trips to Brazil. When you can make the girl laugh in Portuguese, you have come a long way to the right direction. As one can read between the lines in many posts, when relating with pros or non-pros the fun factor is never to be underestimated.

P.S. Here you can see some Brazilian tv channels http://aovivonatv.com/online/

[QUOTE=Nordico;1860192]Study Portuguese grammar, read any Portuguese texts as much as possible. You will always catch some new words from the context, while reading, even not having a dictionary by your side. It also helps you to learn correct language.

As Fuckafmeddig said watching tv is the most important part. It's the best way to learn to understand spoken language if you don't have somebody speaking to you personally. You can also listen to music and using app like Musixmatch you get the lyrics for the songs.

Some girls I understand almost perfectly and the others not so well. I'm constantly trying to improve my Portuguese to get most out of my trips to Brazil. When you can make the girl laugh in Portuguese, you have come a long way to the right direction. As one can read between the lines in many posts, when relating with pros or non-pros the fun factor is never to be underestimated.

P.S. Here you can see some Brazilian tv channels http://aovivonatv.com/online/[/QUOTE]True!

If you CAN'T make a brazilian girl laugh you in trouble.

If you can and she's into you= sexo automatico- 1st date or 2nd date latest. I've had both.

I paid up 220 reals in total after the deed.

I called the VivaLocal escort late last night to arrange some Sunday afternoon delight. She arrived on time
and again everything very relaxed and was excited about the university exam she had just had. The sex was
long and sweaty. She got abit pissed as I did not want to take her out for dinner tonight. There is only so much.
I can use google translate before it gets annoying LOL.

I presented her with some swiss chocolates that were on offer in the UK. Her face lit up! +150 reals for 3 hours of her
company.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1860125]Did she get 250 before or after the deed?

This is the problem with freelancers-there is no manager of a terma to complain to, no one to hold responsible.

If that was agreed and she then re-negged, that's a discount right there. 200!kkk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1859577]No, nobody made a decent report on the coconut price recently. Propably because all the posters in this thread are sitting behind their desks back home, discussing topics not related to Rio.
Psst, I let you in the big secret. You can get the coconut cheaper if you buy one that's not chilled. It will be even cheaper if you buy one directly from the coconut-truck which pass the orla in the morning around 6 AM. You can even get the coconut for free if you climb the palm tree yourself.[/QUOTE]I've more or less stopped buying fresh coconut water from kiosks or vendors. It's much faster and just about as fresh at the many Hortifrutis (fruit & veg grocery stores) around Copacabana.

Most make it themselves in the back, filling 500 ML and 1 L bottles directly from the green coconuts. At my local it's BRL 9. 99 for 1 L. Plus I don't have to stand and wait for the moronic vendor to fill the bottles, wait while he tries to find change, or wait while he attends a more impatient old lady who comes up while he's filling 3 bottles for me.

Now I just pop into the hortifruiti, grab one from the case, and then pray there is nobody in line. If there is a line, I end up waiting just like the vendor. Big hortifruti, 5 cashier's desks, 1 cashier working. Who has no change. People in the line are making change for each other so they attendant will actually take care of more than 1 person every 5 minutes. Ah, Brasil.

Anyway, to me, I see about 95% of the taste of a perfectly fresh coconut water for about 50% of the hassle.....in other words, worth it.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1860321]Now I just pop into the hortifruiti, grab one from the case, and then pray there is nobody in line. If there is a line, I end up waiting just like the vendor. Big hortifruti, 5 cashier's desks, 1 cashier working. Who has no change. People in the line are making change for each other so they attendant will actually take care of more than 1 person every 5 minutes. Ah, Brasil.
-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Way OT but sounds more like my experience in Zona Sul than Hortifruti. Hortifruti near me is well managed, Zona Sul is a zoo. But seriously what is the reason for the eternal shortage of change in BR cashiers?

Is it:

1. The management of the stores is at fault.

2. The banks are at fault.

I used to assume it had to be the management but then somebody told me that the banks are at fault be / see they will not provide the management with sufficient coinage. Anybody know?

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1859929]My amigo BjjDom got me her number while we were sitting at mabs one night.

I was there again but on my own and decided to leave after a coke hoar
was kicked out by security.

She was stood outside with her amiga. The 2 hour quote was now 250 reals
completa. Previously 500 via whatsapp message.

Got a cab back and it was relaxed listening to music and drinking. She took
along time to shower and eventually we are on the bed. She allowed photos but no face.
She backed down on anal and CIM and ass soon as we finished complained there was
no more beer and had the cheek to ask for taxi fare back to mabs.

Very sweet girl aged 25 always smiling but just lazy ass f*.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha! Complained there was no more beer! LMFAO. Sorry to hear it kinda sucked but it was an itch you had to scratch, just glad went down from that 500. Jealous your still there man, have a Great rest of the trip, try to make June with us, and say Hi to my friends at 4 x4 and Ducky over at Mabs for me, and tell her she's next when I return!

BJJ

[QUOTE=BjjDom;1860644]Ha Ha! Complained there was no more beer! LMFAO. Sorry to hear it kinda sucked but it was an itch you had to scratch, just glad went down from that 500. Jealous your still there man, have a Great rest of the trip, try to make June with us, and say Hi to my friends at 4 x4 and Ducky over at Mabs for me, and tell her she's next when I return!

BJJ[/QUOTE]I've been to Mabs now about a half a dozen times and still haven't seen a garota worth my time or money really.

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but the girls all look over-the-hill, and just at it way too long.

Mabs is obviously a place for pussy hungry gringos, willing to pay more for less.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1860847]I've been to Mabs now about a half a dozen times and still haven't seen a garota worth my time or money really.

Maybe I've just been unlucky, but the girls all look over-the-hill, and just at it way too long.

Mabs is obviously a place for pussy hungry gringos, willing to pay more for less.[/QUOTE]Mabs is a pit stop for some terma girls and also old school gdps who are used to Copa and can't work in termas cause theyre too fat, ugly, old, out of shape etc.

Occasionally one can always find a newbie stunner from the suburbs who is testing the water!

The cousin. It is the cousin or the younger sister you are looking for. Not the old, worn-out model in front of you.

Sometimes I think we need a Rio paint by the numbers thread even for the "experts" and locals who have no game.

Hang out. Don't be a jerk and let it be known what you are looking for. Don't settle, let it be known when you will return and above all be nice.

Anyone remember the old woman who sold roses at Balcony? Can't tell you how many hotties she introduced me to. No doubt she got a little something, but then again, so does the termas owner.

Be nice to the doormen at your hotel or apartment. They know absolutely everyone and everything.

The key is to have a reputation as a nice guy. People talk about scoring freebies and non-pros. That is the way you get them and often they come from going out of your way to be nice to someone.

Some of you don't need to learn Portuguese, you need a Dale Carnegie course.

Got there around 1 pm and it was hot and busy! I was going to check out BA 85 for a laugh
but it was locked up. I checked later in the day and it was the same. A little road off the Buenos Aires
with casas 13 and 15 were open but not much was happening in them.

I hung out and drunk beer until around 4. 30 pm and headed to 502. Miserable lady on recepetion. Walked in and the place was
empty and there must have been 10-12 chicks scattered around on the seats. They seemed friendly enough but very average
and bodies not my taste. There was one thin mulata very pretty with some english. We chatted for a while and I must have blinked
once and some dude entered and snapped her up. I would have stayed and sessioned with her but no one else.

Anyone going there be careful on what beer you order. The local beers are stored in the deep freeze out of eye sight and these are the ones
that are free against the entrada. So if you don't ask you may be charged extra for more expensive brand.

I walked out and paid 40 reals for the entrada and x3 beers.

Headed over to 4 x4 it was jumping as usual met by friendly receptionist. Waisted no time and sessioned with a slim and nice
bubble but mulata named arianni. She is married and is quite reserved in the boite, some would say arrogant but very sexy
and is completa in the room. Her face reminded me of Rhianna when she was riding me!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1860233]True!

If you CAN'T make a brazilian girl laugh you in trouble.

If you can and she's into you= sexo automatico- 1st date or 2nd date latest. I've had both.[/QUOTE]This is really any girl to be frank, but thanks. I'm taking all of this with great stride. Might be tough since I'm taking French concurrently. But I have an incentive to learn.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1861264]This is really any girl to be frank, but thanks. I'm taking all of this with great stride. Might be tough since I'm taking French concurrently. But I have an incentive to learn.[/QUOTE]I was fluent in french due to family but when I started learning portuguese, which was easier due to both being latn languages in origin, it messed up my french!

In my experience and I speak 5,its always easier to complete one at a time however when its personal and the incentive is of the flesh, we learn quicker!

It took me ID say 9 months to be able to score on Cupid w non-speaking girls but 2 years to start having big relationships. Now coming up to 3 years, all is smooth.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1861054].

Anyone remember the old woman who sold roses at Balcony? Can't tell you how many hotties she introduced me to.


[/QUOTE]I don't remember this old woman I just remember the man who always wanted to take pictures of you and printed them immediatly! Balcony was a very strange place and Mab's was a very quiet place.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1861548]It took me ID say 9 months to be able to score on Cupid w non-speaking girls but 2 years to start having big relationships.[/QUOTE]When you communicate with mute girls do you use the sign language?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1861590]When you communicate with mute girls do you use the sign language?[/QUOTE]Yes I just spell Sperto with my fingers and they drop their drawers! Its magic.

Thats non-ENGLISH speaking for the slower members of ISG.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;1861557]I don't remember this old woman I just remember the man who always wanted to take pictures of you and printed them immediatly! Balcony was a very strange place and Mab's was a very quiet place.[/QUOTE]The old woman was the mom of the manager. It was a set-up.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1861155]Got there around 1 pm and it was hot and busy! I was going to check out BA 85 for a laugh
but it was locked up. I checked later in the day and it was the same. A little road off the Buenos Aires
with casas 13 and 15 were open but not much was happening in them.

I hung out and drunk beer until around 4. 30 pm and headed to 502. Miserable lady on recepetion. Walked in and the place was
empty and there must have been 10-12 chicks scattered around on the seats. They seemed friendly enough but very average
and bodies not my taste. There was one thin mulata very pretty with some english. We chatted for a while and I must have blinked
once and some dude entered and snapped her up. I would have stayed and sessioned with her but no one else.

Anyone going there be careful on what beer you order. The local beers are stored in the deep freeze out of eye sight and these are the ones
that are free against the entrada. So if you don't ask you may be charged extra for more expensive brand.

I walked out and paid 40 reals for the entrada and x3 beers.

Headed over to 4 x4 it was jumping as usual met by friendly receptionist. Waisted no time and sessioned with a slim and nice
bubble but mulata named arianni. She is married and is quite reserved in the boite, some would say arrogant but very sexy
and is completa in the room. Her face reminded me of Rhianna when she was riding me![/QUOTE]Arianni used to be called josyanne at boate 119-132 reais for 1 hour-nice face. Don't smack her ass during sex as her husband will notice and go ape! Loool.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;1861557]I don't remember this old woman I just remember the man who always wanted to take pictures of you and printed them immediatly! Balcony was a very strange place and Mab's was a very quiet place.[/QUOTE]The old woman was fairly tall and quite interesting to talk with. She speaks German and always was bringing roses by for gringos to buy for the girls. The photographer is quite nice and also interesting once you get to know him. He has been a part of Rio night-life for as long as I can remember. I still have a Polaroid he took in front of Help with a couple of especially fine girls. He is not so much about fixing up as waving you off girls not worth the time.

As usual, don't believe all the misinformation and hyperbole. No one was anyone's manager or mother. Guess when you spend your time trying to communicate with mute girls, it is hard to get other facts straight.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1861054]The cousin. It is the cousin or the younger sister you are looking for. Not the old, worn-out model in front of you.

Sometimes I think we need a Rio paint by the numbers thread even for the "experts" and locals who have no game.

Hang out. Don't be a jerk and let it be known what you are looking for. Don't settle, let it be known when you will return and above all be nice.

Anyone remember the old woman who sold roses at Balcony? Can't tell you how many hotties she introduced me to. No doubt she got a little something, but then again, so does the termas owner.

Be nice to the doormen at your hotel or apartment. They know absolutely everyone and everything.

The key is to have a reputation as a nice guy. People talk about scoring freebies and non-pros. That is the way you get them and often they come from going out of your way to be nice to someone.

Some of you don't need to learn Portuguese, you need a Dale Carnegie course.[/QUOTE]Very true. Treat the gdps in termas with love / carinho and care and you can have free sex with them eventually -well excluding food / drinks but hey ho that's normal at home.

This is very possible. VERY POSSIBLE.

They want a man just like every other girl and would settle for a customer if he was good / nice / hot enough. Just a seed planted.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1861669]The old woman was the mom of the manager. It was a set-up.[/QUOTE]It was a joke. Relax sperto.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1861931]It was a joke. Relax sperto.[/QUOTE]Did I ask something?

Went there for the 1st time last week. BjjDom showed me around and it was alot
more relaxed than 4 x4. I liked the atmosphere of this place. We drank for around an
hour half and then I chose Maloou!

She confirmed in my ear 'yes baby I am Completttta' and she certainly was!

This chick is an absolute hoar in the bedroom. She had a unique shaved pattern on her puss.
swell. Never seen that one before!

We went past the hour and she was not bothered. An explosive ending all over mouth aand face.

Total cost was 417 reals, 1 hour in the room + loads of drinks.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1862200]Went there for the 1st time last week. BjjDom showed me around and it was alot
more relaxed than 4 x4. I liked the atmosphere of this place. We drank for around an
hour half and then I chose Maloou!

She confirmed in my ear 'yes baby I am Completttta' and she certainly was!

This chick is an absolute hoar in the bedroom. She had a unique shaved pattern on her puss.
swell. Never seen that one before!

We went past the hour and she was not bothered. An explosive ending all over mouth aand face.

Total cost was 417 reals, 1 hour in the room + loads of drinks.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear Cancun is still going strong. Any updates on Termas 65 anybody? I had many memorable sessions there. Hope it's still kicking.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1862200]Went there for the 1st time last week. BjjDom showed me around and it was alot
more relaxed than 4 x4. I liked the atmosphere of this place. We drank for around an
hour half and then I chose Maloou!

She confirmed in my ear 'yes baby I am Completttta' and she certainly was!

This chick is an absolute hoar in the bedroom. She had a unique shaved pattern on her puss.
swell. Never seen that one before!

We went past the hour and she was not bothered. An explosive ending all over mouth aand face.

Total cost was 417 reals, 1 hour in the room + loads of drinks.[/QUOTE]Finally, someone gets Cancun and is rewarded.

I like the bartender, I like the waitress and I like the girls enough to have had foursomes there.

The rooms are spacious and well equipped.

Also, if you like, you even can bring a girl of your own into the whiskey (Manhattan). Unlike most termas, Cancun allows girls from the outside to enter with her man.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1862200]Went there for the 1st time last week. BjjDom showed me around and it was alot
more relaxed than 4 x4. I liked the atmosphere of this place. We drank for around an
hour half and then I chose Maloou!

She confirmed in my ear 'yes baby I am Completttta' and she certainly was!

This chick is an absolute hoar in the bedroom. She had a unique shaved pattern on her puss.
swell. Never seen that one before!

We went past the hour and she was not bothered. An explosive ending all over mouth aand face.

Total cost was 417 reals, 1 hour in the room + loads of drinks.[/QUOTE]Was Happy you had a good time man! Cancun was the First Terma I hit when I first went to Rio 8 years ago, and always liked the vibe, the girls have always been pretty easy going with me, cool waitresses w / entrance going toward consumption, and the rooms are the best of all the centro termas imo. I had a great time with the short Chica I met there, just can't remember her name LOL. Will def be back on the next trip.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1862203]Glad to hear Cancun is still going strong. Any updates on Termas 65 anybody? I had many memorable sessions there. Hope it's still kicking.[/QUOTE]As of last Monday it shutdown. Girls went over to Cancun. Shame.

Here in Rio leaving tomorrow, I would say the trip was a success (for a rookie LOL) made mistakes but will learn from them. Was reading forum here for months before trip, reports from all vets here was very informative, thanks everyone for those. Will write full trip report when I return and looking forward to any advice for next trip, one advice nobody needs to tell me is learning the language figured that one out for myself but would take recommendations what can be used for simple basics because a full blown convo is not possible for my next trip in October. Again thanks for all the members that contributes to the forum little you guys know it helps a lot.

Exuma

[QUOTE=Safado69;1862488]As of last Monday it shutdown. Girls went over to Cancun. Shame.[/QUOTE]Could anyone explain the attraction of T65?

I went once and found it stiff, too clean, too uppity, business men types. Corny.

Met one but it wasnt anything special although she was cool as a person. Seemed overpriced and I didn't see anything really.

Cancun the vibe is nice in whiskeria and a bit of live music and I have had 3 good ones there. Also some ok ones.

1 super stunner,1 great fuck who I dated after she quit the business and one superfreak who also worked at 119! Wtf! Thats Brazil for you. Its about practicality for girls.

Facilities are probably the best -better than Centaurus.

Price is quite fair for the facilities. Could be alot higher but for the location.

Boate upstairs is ok-not the best, not the worst. I prefer the whiskeria but rooms are top notch and music is good too.

If they had higher quality girls, place would be no 1 in Rio. Potential is there.

You can find just as hot or better in MV30 for a bit less money but its a fun shit hole!

T31 is even cheaper but hit and miss with the girls. Can find a diamond. 200 per hour-entrada 20 offset against beers i believe.

Florida bar is also hit and miss but I have had 4 good ones and one I dated outside in 3 years.Now 300 an hour!
Used to be 200!!!! i cussed the trannie behind the till-he just smiled sheepishly..i was like how/??? why?
Any refurbs?-NO! room upgrades? NO new girls? barely!? lool -welcome to Brazil and its logic.

Always worth a look or to end off a night out or on the way back from VM-its only 10 minutes in a cab.

Just like VM is a pit-stop on the way back from Black & White in Bonsuccesso.

Aah yes the famous Black & White.

I Have indulged.

They have bingo on a Friday where you can win a session w any garota.

Thats always amusing seeing a pensioner go apeshit like he won the lottery and pont furiously at his dream garota who has to go for a program!

Its cheap-I think it was 140 or less for an hour and rooms were very good! Its just wayyyyyy out the way.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1862650]Could anyone explain the attraction of T65?[/QUOTE]Well here are a few of my T65 "attractions". Fucked 'um all in the butt too hahaha! Yeah, Sperto goes for the negras while I go for the brancas. And I think we both like the morenas LOL! First Rio Antiguo, then L'uomo. Now T65. I better hurry up and get back down there before another place I like is shuttered! Aeropuerto is gone too, but I wasn't a fan. Any chance of T65 coming back anybody know? Any updated, legit intel on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1862659]Well here are a few of my T65 "attractions". Fucked 'um all in the butt too hahaha! Yeah, Sperto goes for the negras while I go for the brancas. And I think we both like the morenas LOL! First Rio Antiguo, then L'uomo. Now T65. I better hurry up and get back down there before another place I like is shuttered! Aeropuerto is gone too, but I wasn't a fan. Any chance of T65 coming back anybody know? Any updated, legit intel on the matter would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I can only imagine how The Cane was pumping them, poor girls.

When In Brazil (a loto of time since last time) I usually go for petite mulatas or black ones. Mmm nice to see my whitle load on their skin. But I still prefer the pale, blonde, pink ruskies.

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;1862862]I can only imagine how The Cane was pumping them, poor girls.

When In Brazil (a loto of time since last time) I usually go for petite mulatas or black ones. Mmm nice to see my whitle load on their skin. But I still prefer the pale, blonde, pink ruskies.

IT.[/QUOTE]Legit intel is that its not re-opening and will most likely become a hotel.

The manager of T65 talked online.

They were trying to get creative to lure in the customers-2 for 1 drinks etc etc but to no avail.

(he should have done 2 for 1 girl!

The profit was down 40% in 2 years and tourists stopped coming.

It never had the international feel or profile of 4 x 4 which is carrying on regardless and as before-mentioned places close by like Cancun probably took the best girls.

Place never really seemed to have a buzz I. E. No locals ever raved about it to me like they did with VM or MV for better or worse! LOL.

[QUOTE=ExumaStealth;1862636]Here in Rio leaving tomorrow, I would say the trip was a success (for a rookie LOL) made mistakes but will learn from them. Was reading forum here for months before trip, reports from all vets here was very informative, thanks everyone for those. Will write full trip report when I return and looking forward to any advice for next trip, one advice nobody needs to tell me is learning the language figured that one out for myself but would take recommendations what can be used for simple basics because a full blown convo is not possible for my next trip in October. Again thanks for all the members that contributes to the forum little you guys know it helps a lot.

Exuma[/QUOTE]Watch TV!-Novellas, news, cartoons. From simple everyday talk to reports.

One-to-one lessons on skype w language teachers I found to be most effective but probably not the most cost-effective.

Most important tool is the will to learn.

Once a language is personal to you ie it affects you in real life through trips, girls, ups / downs it tends to come quicker.

Abracos.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1862870]Legit intel is that its not re-opening and will most likely become a hotel.

The manager of T65 talked online.

They were trying to get creative to lure in the customers-2 for 1 drinks etc etc but to no avail.

(he should have done 2 for 1 girl!

The profit was down 40% in 2 years and tourists stopped coming.

It never had the international feel or profile of 4 x 4 which is carrying on regardless and as before-mentioned places close by like Cancun probably took the best girls.

Place never really seemed to have a buzz I. E. No locals ever raved about it to me like they did with VM or MV for better or worse! LOL.[/QUOTE]Where did you see the "online talk" of the T65 manager? Is there a Brazil forum link?

T65 used to cater to high-earners who worked in Centro (lawyers, judges) and cashed-up tourists. It started to go downhill around 2012 when they started losing / not being able to attract as hot girls as they used to. Not sure why. It used to offer a slimmer, "whiter" (or at least browner) alternative to 4 x4. I had some fantastic friends / sessions there from 2010-2012. Ever since then, when I would check in 1-2 x per year, the quality was low. The facilities were great. I'm sad to see it go. Rio is losing too many termas.

IMO 65 hadn't been that good since around 2006. Up til then it for me was on par with 4 X4, but it started fading years ago, and curiously its price climbed more than its competition.

Tragic that L'Uomo, 65, and Rio Antiguo are all gone. For tier one termas, all we have left are Monte Carlo, 4 X4, Solarium, and Centaurus.

I'm wondering if after the Olympics, things start to turn the other direction in Rio. That is more sex venues open. Maybe even a large club right on Avenida Atlantica. Am I dreaming?

I speak with a number of GDPs via Facebook and Whatsapp and they are complaining about lack of customers even more than usual.

Makes me think that demand is really badly. Locals also seems to have done away with tipping.

A number of GDPs are leaving the business either for good or to go work abroad. I guess Spain will be a great destination.

I have also been told that 4*4 might be closing. The source is a reliable and insightful friend who told me that the owner is ill and the family.

Does not want to continue the business.

So many great places are closing down which will definitely change the scene in Rio for the worse, esp. For non-portuguese speakers.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1863174]Where did you see the "online talk" of the T65 manager? Is there a Brazil forum link?

T65 used to cater to high-earners who worked in Centro (lawyers, judges) and cashed-up tourists. It started to go downhill around 2012 when they started losing / not being able to attract as hot girls as they used to. Not sure why. It used to offer a slimmer, "whiter" (or at least browner) alternative to 4 x4. I had some fantastic friends / sessions there from 2010-2012. Ever since then, when I would check in 1-2 x per year, the quality was low. The facilities were great. I'm sad to see it go. Rio is losing too many termas.[/QUOTE]Hey Cartman I saw it on one of the brazilian sites-they had a link. Will try and find it.

For sure it seemed sterile and only for business men when I went in 2013-I'm not surprised it fell off.

[QUOTE=Junior;1863242]I speak with a number of GDPs via Facebook and Whatsapp and they are complaining about lack of customers even more than usual.

Makes me think that demand is really badly. Locals also seems to have done away with tipping.

A number of GDPs are leaving the business either for good or to go work abroad. I guess Spain will be a great destination.

I have also been told that 4*4 might be closing. The source is a reliable and insightful friend who told me that the owner is ill and the family.

Does not want to continue the business.

So many great places are closing down which will definitely change the scene in Rio for the worse, esp. For non-portuguese speakers.[/QUOTE]Spain is where gdps have been going for many years from Brazil-they still flock there-Clube Vive being the most popular destination in Madrid for the good ones with earning potential.
,
4 x 4 I have stopped going to but had a few good times in there-nowhere near my best hunting ground but always good for a laugh.

Its an institution so would be sad if it shut.

Regarding a post-Olympic sex club boom in Rio that is a dream and not a reality.

The reality is that the locals will have less money to spend so when the tourists arent there there won't be enough to go around.

The only salvation could be an influx of gringos if Real drops to ridiculusly low levels-but if the situation socially keeps deteriorating that might also deter tourists.

Its a tricky one to predict.

VM will be hit hard and already has been according to same article on one of brazilian sites I quoted the manager of T65. People there are saying they have more empty days now there.

I have witnessed it but its only to be expected with an economic crisis.

If you have to worry about putting food on table, disposable income for putas is not there.

Putas willl be come cheaper and the freelancers will increase in numbers for sure-and the rise of the semi-pro will continue as normal girls struggle and will make the occasional dip into GDP ocean.

This already is the reality for quite a few in VM. They have normal jobs but go once in a while to pay for something.
In line with the warped Brazilian logic,places keep tweaking prices upwards-like Florida which went up 100 reais an hour for no reason.
If theres less money to go round the brazilian mentality is to rake in as much as they can while the money is infront of them-understandable but a sure-fire way to lead to a closure-i mean if T65 wanted to attract customers why maintain the highest prices in Centro-it clearly wasnt working?.
Everyone will have to tighten their belt.
If theres a crisis-they need sales- drop prices or offer proper incentives -not entry against consumption-
better frequent fuck programs...cheaper prices...
either that or go bust.

However,amidst all the gloom and in times of local despair,low and behold the cash-strapped gringo who once again can win big in the giant *****house which always was Rio and still is.(Its started as a brothel)
The foreigner with money can once again punch even further above their weight-regardless of age,weight,looks so there it is.

[QUOTE=Junior;1863242]I speak with a number of GDPs via Facebook and Whatsapp and they are complaining about lack of customers even more than usual.

Makes me think that demand is really badly. Locals also seems to have done away with tipping.

A number of GDPs are leaving the business either for good or to go work abroad. I guess Spain will be a great destination.

I have also been told that 4*4 might be closing. The source is a reliable and insightful friend who told me that the owner is ill and the family.

Does not want to continue the business.

So many great places are closing down which will definitely change the scene in Rio for the worse, esp. For non-portuguese speakers.[/QUOTE]Yeah its funny how they did all this cleanup by shutting down HELP for the Olympics and the Olympics is looking like a huge bust right now. I Heard a lot of tourist are not coming to Brazil for the olympics and they still have not even sold half the tickets yet.

[URL]http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/03/brazil-cant-sell-tickets-to-the-olympics.html[/URL]

As for the mongering scene I would not worry to much. Once the Olympics is over. Everything will get back to normal. All The Hotels, Apartment Owners, Restaurants, Termas, etc will get in line with there prices. You cannot keep a inflated price forever.

Everybody is hoping to cash in on the Olympics but its looking like a very huge bust and its only going to get worst for Brazil when the Bills are due, for all this overspending on mass construction, for tourist that won't even be there like that etc. Its really bad.

You will see a massive influx of mongers after the Olympics. The Real Currency, plus the airline tickets were crazy back in 2010-2014, It was almost $1500 for a plane ticket, Now its like $500-$600. So guys don't stress yourself about the mongering scene.

After the Olympics and when the economy crashes back to reality, Your going to see a lot of hungry GDPs.

[QUOTE=Combo;1863185]Tragic that L'Uomo, 65, and Rio Antiguo are all gone. For tier one termas, all we have left are Monte Carlo, 4 X4, Solarium, and Centaurus.[/QUOTE]I put Cancun in Tier 1 as well. If some of these places can just hold on at least until the Olympics, then maybe they will see an infusion of tourist cash. Like when any industry sees hard times, you're going to see the weak businesses fall off and a consolidation of the industry. That's what's been going on in Brazil for some time now. My next trip down, I'm going to have to mix in some massages and prives to go with my mainline termas. Also Mabs, Barbarella's. Just got to mix it up more! Tijuca has many good joints, but it's so damn far away from where I like to set up shop. I like to set up shop to where I can work Centro and Copa. And that's what I'm going to do again. Yes I am!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863321]Spain is where gdps have been going for many years from Brazil-they still flock there-Clube Vive being the most popular destination in Madrid for the good ones with earning potential.[/QUOTE]I've had Brazilian girls in Madrid & Sevilla, but also in Germany & Switzerland (best BBBJ / CIM I've ever had in my entire life was from a GDP working in Zurich). I would have thought you would find the Brazilian tutes flocking to Portugal due to the language factor, but I guess the industry is more open and free in Spain, and the two languages of Portuguese and Spanish are close enough that you can get along. I've had many a hot Brazilian girl ask me to speak to her in Spanish versus English because then she could understand me better. Yeah, my Portuguese should be better. But it isn't LOL! Not stopping me none!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1863174]Where did you see the "online talk" of the T65 manager? Is there a Brazil forum link?

T65 used to cater to high-earners who worked in Centro (lawyers, judges) and cashed-up tourists. It started to go downhill around 2012 when they started losing / not being able to attract as hot girls as they used to. Not sure why. It used to offer a slimmer, "whiter" (or at least browner) alternative to 4 x4. I had some fantastic friends / sessions there from 2010-2012. Ever since then, when I would check in 1-2 x per year, the quality was low. The facilities were great. I'm sad to see it go. Rio is losing too many termas.[/QUOTE][URL]https://forumx.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=152&t=13439&start=42[/URL]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863316]Hey Cartman I saw it on one of the brazilian sites-they had a link. Will try and find it.

For sure it seemed sterile and only for business men when I went in 2013-I'm not surprised it fell off.[/QUOTE][URL]http://extra.globo.com/noticias/rio/casas-de-saliencia-amargam-queda-por-causa-da-crise-termas-65-fecha-as-portas-18993401.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;1863439][URL]http://extra.globo.com/noticias/rio/casas-de-saliencia-amargam-queda-por-causa-da-crise-termas-65-fecha-as-portas-18993401.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks!

Yeah looks like a done deal!

4 X 4 next?

Droppin like flies mate.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863445]Thanks!

Yeah looks like a done deal!

4 X 4 next?

Droppin like flies mate.[/QUOTE]I can understand why T65 was closed. I was there in 2014 and it was pretty much dead and hardly ever had costumers. But 4 x 4 there is no way they can close down. I was there in December 2015 and it was jam pack every night.

But the Brazilian mentally is dumb anyways. When times are tough, they raise the price instead of lowering the price to increase traffic. No business sense at all. Just like selling TVs at $500 dollars and nobody is buying them, don't raise it to $1,000.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1863567]I can understand why T65 was closed. I was there in 2014 and it was pretty much dead and hardly ever had costumers. But 4 x 4 there is no way they can close down. I was there in December 2015 and it was jam pack every night.

But the Brazilian mentally is dumb anyways. When times are tough, they raise the price instead of lowering the price to increase traffic. No business sense at all. Just like selling TVs at $500 dollars and nobody is buying them, don't raise it to $1,000.[/QUOTE]4 x 4 owner apparently is sick and family reluctant to carry on the business without him.

It does make money so it wouldn't be for financial reasons.

I don't like the staff there except for the lady who cleans the room-she's cool and got a tip=the rest are stress and chato.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1863567]I can understand why T65 was closed. I was there in 2014 and it was pretty much dead and hardly ever had costumers. But 4 x 4 there is no way they can close down. I was there in December 2015 and it was jam pack every night.

But the Brazilian mentally is dumb anyways. When times are tough, they raise the price instead of lowering the price to increase traffic. No business sense at all. Just like selling TVs at $500 dollars and nobody is buying them, don't raise it to $1,000.[/QUOTE]T65 was the most boring terma I visited in Rio-straight up.

I mean Centaurus isn't boring-its just annoying with girls on you like flies on shit-pestering you.

Solarium has a nice vibe but I just don't like the meninas.

Monte Carlo used to be good a few years back -always found myself a good one and dated outside but now its sterile to me.

4 x 4 to me is very factory now-of course a good time can be had but I prefer the grimey side with an occasional trip to Cancun or somewhere nice.

I find myself struggling with the clock-watching doing 1 hour programs at tier 1 spots. One gets spoiled with chicks who spend the night for food / drinks / cabs etc and I can take my time.

Termas are useful for an occasional black out-a greedy night out.

And getting numbers of course.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863600]4 x 4 owner apparently is sick and family reluctant to carry on the business without him.

It does make money so it wouldn't be for financial reasons.

I don't like the staff there except for the lady who cleans the room-she's cool and got a tip=the rest are stress and chato.[/QUOTE]I can't see the 4 x 4 closing, Its too famous and too much of a goldmine, somebody will buy it, Shit if I had a couple of millions, I would buy it (But then again I can only imagine the bribes they pay to the police).

Once the Olympics is over and reality sets in, They will be a massive influx of mongers coming to Brazil. With the economy down I know a lot of GDPs girls are hungry since there is no more club help. I know a lot of girls would prefer the club setting like a help.

Compared to places like Balcony or Mabs, Where you feel like a street walker and be around shady people. A lot of mongers branched out or sat on the sidelines because of the currency and how expensive Brazil is. The people that own the 4 x 4 should hold on for.

At least 1 Year or 2. Brazil will return to the glory days (Well at least for us mongers). For regular working class Brazilians I feel sorry. It will take decades before Brazil economy recovers.

Sad to see any venue close, even if I didn't care for the place (T65). There's more to these places than the garotas. Look at all the workers that were displaced after they closed Help, Balcony, Luomos, etc. I had some good sessions at T65 in the early 2000's, but it never really grabbed me like 4 x4. The last time I went there a few months ago, after an almost 10 year hiatus, I was not impressed at all. I feel the same about Cancun. I went there when they first opened, but it never did anything for me for some reason. Frankly, I'm surprised even 4 x4 have guys (Brazilians) that take programas, considering the high cost these days. I honestly don't see how it can continue to draw people with the current economic crisis and high prices.

The last two times I went to Rio (2015), I was surprised at the low number of mongers (that didn't live there) I encountered, despite the good exchange rate. For me as long as the reais stay in the 3. 00 and high 2. 00 range, I will continue my pace at 2 times or so a year, but once it goes back to the low 2. 00 or 1. 00 range again, I might have to tap out. Anyways, hopefully the metro line to Barra will be done before my next trip next month. I'm hearing that some of the action is shifting that way, due to the Olympics. I plan on checking it out more, at least to see the Olympic Village.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1863691]At least 1 Year or 2. Brazil will return to the glory days (Well at least for us mongers). For regular working class Brazilians I feel sorry. It will take decades before Brazil economy recovers.[/QUOTE]
As long as there is a crisis in Brazil there will be no return to the glory days. No puteiro outside of Copacabana lives on the gringo mongers. They depend on the local clients. If they can't afford to spend money on GPs even more puteiros will close. Many puteiros only have 40% of the customers they had one year ago. If the crisis continues the playground will be even smaller.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1863840]As long as there is a crisis in Brazil there will be no return to the glory days. No puteiro outside of Copacabana lives on the gringo mongers. They depend on the local clients. If they can't afford to spend money on GPs even more puteiros will close. Many puteiros only have 40% of the customers they had one year ago. If the crisis continues the playground will be even smaller.[/QUOTE]I agree. The playground will go more in the way of clinicas, privees and freelancers, escorts etc since there are low overheads attached and running costs are small in comparison to maintaining a sex club with a big staff, bar, big rent.

There will always be putarias because some will always be able to afford something but for sure the cheaper ones will have a better chance. I think Florida just f*cked themselves by raising prices 100 reais an hour.

I think spots like T31 and be / W might exist as they are more affordable but who knows.

A mass exodus to Spain etc is very likely after the Olympics.

Club Vive will be all Brazilian! After all I heard a program there is more than 200 euros so that's more than 1000 reais for 1 hour plus girls get cut of drinks that are expensive but have to pay to keep their spot.

One I know just went to Spain for 6 months and made 15,000 euros in profit a month she brought home 75,000 euros and bought an apartment in Aracaju.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863861]I agree. The playground will go more in the way of clinicas, privees and freelancers, escorts etc since there are low overheads attached and running costs are small in comparison to maintaining a sex club with a big staff, bar, big rent.[/QUOTE]
The privées suffers just as well as the termas/clubs. The privées are loosing many customers. Many privées have closed down and more will closes down as long as there is a crisis.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1863909]The prives suffers just as well as the termas/clubs. The prives are loosing many customers. Many prives have closed down and more will closes down as long as there is a crisis.[/QUOTE]Then ithere will be freelancers and escorts left and the prices will need adjustment or all the ones who are decent will try and go to Europe (Spain mainly).

I mean a good terma girl can earn maybe 2000+ reais a day at a place like Vive if she's busy.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863920]Then ithere will be freelancers and escorts left and the prices will need adjustment or all the ones who are decent will try and go to Europe (Spain mainly).

I mean a good terma girl can earn maybe 2000+ reais a day at a place like Vive if she's busy.[/QUOTE]I had a very good friend who went to Spain in search of Euros a number of years ago. It was great in the beginning, she was making money hand over fist, until one month the club owners forgot to make their payment to the police. The police came in and rounded up about 30 girls an took them to jail, they sat in jail for almost 3 weeks before the club owner got them out. As soon as they were released, all the brasilian girls were deported. The police escorted her to her apartment and she had to pack up her stuff and they took her straight to the airport. One last kick in the ass? Before they left the apartment, the police searched her and her belongings, they discovered that she had 20,000 euros. They took 10,000 euros and chastised her saying "As a tourist, you are only legally allowed to have 10 K euros, so we are confiscating this money from you!" So Spain iis not a Eutopia for for the working girls.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1863932]I had a very good friend who went to Spain in search of Euros a number of years ago. It was great in the beginning, she was making money hand over fist, until one month the club owners forgot to make their payment to the police. The police came in and rounded up about 30 girls an took them to jail, they sat in jail for almost 3 weeks before the club owner got them out. As soon as they were released, all the brasilian girls were deported. The police escorted her to her apartment and she had to pack up her stuff and they took her straight to the airport. One last kick in the ass? Before they left the apartment, the police searched her and her belongings, they discovered that she had 20,000 euros. They took 10,000 euros and chastised her saying "As a tourist, you are only legally allowed to have 10 K euros, so we are confiscating this money from you!" So Spain iis not a Eutopia for for the working girls.[/QUOTE]There are always horror stories like this but many do well. One I knew just came back from Club Vive and made 75 K euros in 6 months-she is a 9. 5 and all natural so little wonder but had zero hassle-the place they work also determines the risks. Club Vive is by the Bernabeau Stadium and frequented by stars, players, judges, businessmen, politicians etc-maybe that is th reason I doesn't get raided.

No entrada if you bring the flyer while the game is on.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863986]There are always horror stories like this but many do well. One I knew just came back from Club Vive and made 75 K euros in 6 months-she is a 9. 5 and all natural so little wonder but had zero hassle-the place they work also determines the risks. Club Vive is by the Bernabeau Stadium and frequented by stars, players, judges, businessmen, politicians etc-maybe that is th reason I doesn't get raided.[/QUOTE]Can you please PM me the contact details of this 9. 5? I will give her the Cartman test drive back here in Brazil.

This isn't as easy as Medellin, anyone have reliable intel? PM if needed.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1864161]Can you please PM me the contact details of this 9. 5? I will give her the Cartman test drive back here in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately she quit the biz and is studying!

Aracaju, Sergipe.

She did have a 3 week stint at MC during WC-her debut-I did happen to pop in there and discovered her.

Did bring her back to Rio to hang with me and then she set sail for Espana.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1864164]This isn't as easy as Medellin, anyone have reliable intel? PM if needed.[/QUOTE]IBIS but check them in and out personally and book room for 2 and tell them your friend comes later. Always works.

I abused Best Western Ipanema shamelessly as well-they would just call up-so and so is in reception for you mr fuckafmeddig and let them up to get the treatment but not sure now-that was 2014. Brought back a bunch-checked in as 2.

Air BnB bro. Just look for apts that allow guests or for minimal surcharge.

Places that require ID upfront of everyone staying-forget it and good luck like Taken 5.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1864160]No entrada if you bring the flyer while the game is on.[/QUOTE]Thats something! Would that still make it like 450 for 1 hour program including suite?

IS Solarium still white girl heaven with occasional mulatto thrown in for good measure and equal opportunity?

Arrived back home and I am already planning my next trip. Things havn't changed
a great deal copacabana apart from it being cheaper for me. I bought all my Reals in the
UK at 5. 70 to the before it dropped due Britain maybe pulling out of Europe.

The GDP's hanging at Mabs are no different from the ones who were at Balcony. You can find
nice ones there who will perform well and do what they agree to, the others will try to rush
the program and head back to mabs to pull another.

One Friday I left mabs in a taxi and there must have been 50+ Garotas lined up together trying to
pull in cars along Av. Atlantica. The taxi driver was slowing down and shouting at them as we drove passed.

I used taxis more than last time, where before it was buses the metro and omnibuses.
I felt relitively safe In Copacabana but was always on the look out. I bought a cheap android phone
for this trip as I did not want to carry my iphone around but as long as you are careful there is no need.

I saw many cariocas walking around with phones stuffed in there back pockets without a care. But I do not recommend this.

I did not see many beggar kids on the streets like before but while sittling at Kice Sucos I saw a little old black lady hustle 3 people
her own age. From what I was told from the guys there, she asked people for 5-10 reals to get
herself back home by bus. She approaches people the same age as her, and while I was sat there
it worked 3 times.

I hated grocery shopping! There seems to be no quiet period where you can pop into Zona Sul and get
a few things. I queued for 25 minutes one day. So I found the best thing to do was to shop before I went
to the gym, early in the morning around 7 am.

BrazilCipid was a good tool to use. I got many numbers and contacts but many I could tell would be hard work with
no Porto, and they were looking for husbands. I met one on my 2nd night at her apartment. Perfect english 22 years old.
She got me drunk on home made caipirinha. A bait and switch, as she was alot bigger than her photos she had sent, but the
biggest tits I have have ever had!!

Beach action can still be found infront Othon Palace although nothing like it used to be. But it is
nice to have that option there. I counted around 6-8 on one day.

Termas for me are Cancun and 4 x4. They have something for everyone with great atmospheres in both. I visited
MC on my last day for a dupla and will not set foot in any copacabana terma again. (Unless Luomo comes back
To life). The price, the performance was just not worth it, even with the exchange rate.

I sessioned with many independents and found them good value for money. I did however have one bad day. I was hungover
so decided to stay home and order in for the night time. I arranged for Sayonara a mixed japanese chick to come by (pictures below). We set the time and I
confirmed my road etc. With 30 minutes to go I asked if she needed the apt no and she said she could not make it today.

So its now late and I'm going through whatsapp and a negra also lets me down but says she has friends who can visit me. I said
I do not do blind dates, so she sends photos of 5 GDP's. I make my choice and we set the price and time.
I wait and an hour passes and nothing, message her and nothing, so I taxi it to mabs where I get a message asking me where I am and that the chick is
waiting with her driver!! I taxi back and she's waiting in the back of a car, and the driver let her out. She's the same
as the photo but something is up. In the apartment she has attitude and I notice her eyes are pinged. No english and no porto
we use google translate and she wants me to go down and pay the driver while she waits in apartment. I make the decision that this
is only going to get worse, and I will not enjoy my time, so I say cancel program and walk her down. She asks for 200 + 60 for the driver!!

I know I have to pay somthing but its not going to be that. I stand in the lobby and hand her 150 and point up at the camera and she looks
up at it. I tell her that is it, and she walks out. The next hour is hell, as the negra who arranged it whatsapps me non stop, asking
for more money as the driver wanted his cut, and the GDP another 50. They waited in the car for 1 hour and then left.

On the flip side, I have had beautiful repeats with a a Mulata who is an independant, studying at university to be a lawyer. She would
travel for 2 hours to spend 3 hours+ for 150. The last day we did suga loaf then BBQ food and an afternoon of sex and she studied for an hour
while I worked. I was happy to give her 300 reals.

With the exchange rate the way it is, Brazil is my number 1 destnation, but with termas closing and not liking the prives and clinica scene
it will be more difficult to find what I am looking for with ease.

My number one priority now is to learn Portuguese. I know 100% my time spent in Brazil will be 100% better.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1864474]With the exchange rate the way it is, Brazil is my number 1 destnation, but with termas closing and not liking the prives and clinica scene
it will be more difficult to find what I am looking for with ease.

My number one priority now is to learn Portuguese. I know 100% my time spent in Brazil will be 100% better.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Yes if you learn Portuguese, you will see a completely new Brazil, especially if you want Non-Pros, one of my Wingman knows Portuguese and hits up the regular disco spots, he pulls really nice stunna hotties. You will get a lot of GFE.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1863321] The only salvation could be an influx of gringos if Real drops to ridiculusly low levels-but if the situation socially keeps deteriorating that might also deter tourists.

Its a tricky one to predict.

[/QUOTE]Breadman here from the US, travel mainly to Germany and Thailand (and have to mention Canada as well) for the hobby. Have to say I spend my money where its the easiest for me to spend it, and going thru the visa process to get a visa to enter Brazil and pay $160 with a specific type of check will keep this tourist heading to other destinations. And it doesn't help that Brazil's embassy's now only accept online applications, many Americans won't even consider visiting a country with all these extra restrictions. And look south to Argentina, they've waived their visa fee for US citizens. Where will the US tourists go if they want to see South America if Argentina extends their visa waiver?

Personally I'd love to head to Brazil to check out the action but its that first major headache that's keeping me from visiting. Am I the only one? Unlikely. Charge an exit fee at the airport and I'll be there tomorrow. Make me jump thru hoops, send in my passport, get a photo taken, apply online, get a check made. Screw it. I'm tired already of posting about it let alone getting the visa shit completed. I'm off to Germany instead.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1864557]Personally I'd love to head to Brazil to check out the action but its that first major headache that's keeping me from visiting. Am I the only one? Unlikely. Charge an exit fee at the airport and I'll be there tomorrow. Make me jump thru hoops, send in my passport, get a photo taken, apply online, get a check made. Screw it. I'm tired already of posting about it let alone getting the visa shit completed. I'm off to Germany instead.[/QUOTE]I've been to BA a couple of times and had some really strong mongering experiences there. But for us Brazil lovers, Argentina is no substitute for Brazil. The two experiences are quite different. There's one and only "Marvelous City", and that's in Brazil! Enjoy Germany. Perhaps I'll run into you there one day as it's my number two destination. But nothing is going to top Brazil for this here "monger", and especially not Thailand where the overwhelming majority of the tutes just don't have a look that I like.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1864557]Breadman here from the US, travel mainly to Germany and Thailand (and have to mention Canada as well) for the hobby. Have to say I spend my money where its the easiest for me to spend it, and going thru the visa process to get a visa to enter Brazil and pay $160 with a specific type of check will keep this tourist heading to other destinations. And it doesn't help that Brazil's embassy's now only accept online applications, many Americans won't even consider visiting a country with all these extra restrictions. And look south to Argentina, they've waived their visa fee for US citizens. Where will the US tourists go if they want to see South America if Argentina extends their visa waiver?

Personally I'd love to head to Brazil to check out the action but its that first major headache that's keeping me from visiting. Am I the only one? Unlikely. Charge an exit fee at the airport and I'll be there tomorrow. Make me jump thru hoops, send in my passport, get a photo taken, apply online, get a check made. Screw it. I'm tired already of posting about it let alone getting the visa shit completed. I'm off to Germany instead.[/QUOTE]If the visa application (online process, fee, and all that goes along with it) is what's keeping you from going to Brasil, I'll go out on a limb to say that you you really don't want to visit there. The process is not a difficult one but if it is not something that you wish to do, I don't believe any of the regulars here will discourage you from Europe or Asia but I will bet you that if you did somehow overcome such thinking. That by the time you cleared customs and walked through the Dufry at the bottom of the escalator (Rio), that you'd be glad you did make that decision to go. The journey would definitely begin there, in that moment. It's only as difficult as you perceive it to be.

But who I am to say don't go to Europe or Asia?

What it will do though is leave a higher number of potentials for those of us who are always wanting / happy to be "home" (aka in Rio). Thanks for helping to keep the ratio up.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1864557]Breadman here from the US, travel mainly to Germany and Thailand (and have to mention Canada as well) for the hobby. Have to say I spend my money where its the easiest for me to spend it, and going thru the visa process to get a visa to enter Brazil and pay $160 with a specific type of check will keep this tourist heading to other destinations. And it doesn't help that Brazil's embassy's now only accept online applications, many Americans won't even consider visiting a country with all these extra restrictions. And look south to Argentina, they've waived their visa fee for US citizens. Where will the US tourists go if they want to see South America if Argentina extends their visa waiver?

Personally I'd love to head to Brazil to check out the action but its that first major headache that's keeping me from visiting. Am I the only one? Unlikely. Charge an exit fee at the airport and I'll be there tomorrow. Make me jump thru hoops, send in my passport, get a photo taken, apply online, get a check made. Screw it. I'm tired already of posting about it let alone getting the visa shit completed. I'm off to Germany instead.[/QUOTE]Ugh, here we go.

1) Visa requirements are being waived around the 2016 Summer Olympics. Google it.

2) Brazil frankly doesn't care that you or others find the visa process tedious.

3) How about contributing some tips to the Rio board, as this is supposed to be for exchanging info about sex in Rio. There are other General Brazil forums here for chit-chat.

On the topic of (3), 502 is also rumored to be on the edge of shutting down due to lack of customers. Who knows? With things so bad, you would think the girls would not cancel when they have a real opportunity. I had a recent "amiga colorida," who I've been seeing about 1 x per week (she looks like Megan Rain), cancel on me tonight after I'd confirmed both yesterday and today. "Her kid is sick and had to go to the hospital. " Yeh, whatever. No BRL 400 for her then. Yeh that's the Cartman house rate for girls who stay the night and provide "special services" these days. I generally think it's enough to ensure good performance / compliance, but clearly it failed in its attraction tonight.

Sadly too late at night for me to arrange something else.

Meanwhile an old flame, who has been dating a white dude who she *never tags* in all the lovey dovey FB posts, is sending me texts asking if I know anyone who wants to do a programa with her as she's hurting for cash.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1864557]Breadman here from the US, travel mainly to Germany and Thailand (and have to mention Canada as well) for the hobby. Have to say I spend my money where its the easiest for me to spend it, and going thru the visa process to get a visa to enter Brazil and pay $160 with a specific type of check will keep this tourist heading to other destinations. And it doesn't help that Brazil's embassy's now only accept online applications, many Americans won't even consider visiting a country with all these extra restrictions. And look south to Argentina, they've waived their visa fee for US citizens. Where will the US tourists go if they want to see South America if Argentina extends their visa waiver?

Personally I'd love to head to Brazil to check out the action but its that first major headache that's keeping me from visiting. Am I the only one? Unlikely. Charge an exit fee at the airport and I'll be there tomorrow. Make me jump thru hoops, send in my passport, get a photo taken, apply online, get a check made. Screw it. I'm tired already of posting about it let alone getting the visa shit completed. I'm off to Germany instead.[/QUOTE]I agree it's a pain. I was surprised they gave me a 10 year visa when I applied last year. That takes a little of the pain away. Also, I've heard they will not require a visa this summer due to the Olympics. I'm not sure what the dates are for the no-visa period.

I'll be headed to Vitoria Brazil for one week starting this Friday. If anyone has any info on Vitoria, I would love to hear about it. If not, then I'll have a good post on it in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1864582]If the visa application (online process, fee, and all that goes along with it) is what's keeping you from going to Brasil, I'll go out on a limb to say that you you really don't want to visit there. The process is not a difficult one but if it is not something that you wish to do, I don't believe any of the regulars here will discourage you from Europe or Asia but I will bet you that if you did somehow overcome such thinking. That by the time you cleared customs and walked through the Dufry at the bottom of the escalator (Rio), that you'd be glad you did make that decision to go. The journey would definitely begin there, in that moment. It's only as difficult as you perceive it to be.

But who I am to say don't go to Europe or Asia?

What it will do though is leave a higher number of potentials for those of us who are always wanting / happy to be "home" (aka in Rio). Thanks for helping to keep the ratio up.[/QUOTE]Barrier to entry visa helps keep the ratio down!

June 1 through September 18. USA, Japanese, Australian, and Canadian citizens don't need a visa. One of the main reasons I'm visiting this summer. (USA Summer).

Been reading the forum non-stop in the meantime. Incredibly informative. Keep up the great work. Will provide FR of my own once returning.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1864627]Barrier to entry visa helps keep the ratio down![/QUOTE]The mulatas of the picks are superb!

ABG.

[QUOTE=Kdog;1864609]I agree it's a pain. I was surprised they gave me a 10 year visa when I applied last year. That takes a little of the pain away. Also, I've heard they will not require a visa this summer due to the Olympics. I'm not sure what the dates are for the no-visa period.

I'll be headed to Vitoria Brazil for one week starting this Friday. If anyone has any info on Vitoria, I would love to hear about it. If not, then I'll have a good post on it in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]June. September 2016, no visa required to visit Brazil as a tourist. And there is no requirement that you attend an event. The visa process isn't that bad. And to say that Americans won't visit be use of a visa is nonsense. The flights I take to Brazil from the US are near capacity load.

Just got back from Rio on April 3rd, 2016. Back after 10 years, big difference! (Dollar 3. 6 to 1).

Just not a lot of girls out, at Mabs on a Friday and Saturday night and the numbers and quality just low, going rate there was are $200-are $250.

Like someone mentioned before, I think most girls prefer a dance club to go in, until that returns the scene will be hurt. Also the fact that there no day spots to hang out hurts also, not being able to go to Meia Pataca around 3 pm for some daytime actions hurts, also didn't see any girls hanging on the beach in front of Meia Pataca and hotel Othon like they use to, the guys that worked the beach would let you know when you were walking by that there were puts in a section,nothing going on like that now.

I think everybody crossing their fingers that after the Olympics that everything will go back to normal but there no guarantee to that,by this time next year we will know.

Many factors would have to be involved:

1. The dollar high maybe 5 to 1.

2. Airline flight prices reasonable.

3. Daytime spots like Meia Pataca start back letting chicas hang around.

4. A nightclub opens back up.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1863373]Yeah its funny how they did all this cleanup by shutting down HELP for the Olympics and the Olympics is looking like a huge bust right now. I Heard a lot of tourist are not coming to Brazil for the olympics and they still have not even sold half the tickets yet.

[URL]http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/03/brazil-cant-sell-tickets-to-the-olympics.html[/URL]

As for the mongering scene I would not worry to much. Once the Olympics is over. Everything will get back to normal. All The Hotels, Apartment Owners, Restaurants, Termas, etc will get in line with there prices. You cannot keep a inflated price forever.

Everybody is hoping to cash in on the Olympics but its looking like a very huge bust and its only going to get worst for Brazil when the Bills are due, for all this overspending on mass construction, for tourist that won't even be there like that etc. Its really bad.

You will see a massive influx of mongers after the Olympics. The Real Currency, plus the airline tickets were crazy back in 2010-2014, It was almost $1500 for a plane ticket, Now its like $500-$600. So guys don't stress yourself about the mongering scene.

After the Olympics and when the economy crashes back to reality, Your going to see a lot of hungry GDPs.[/QUOTE]

That's are $200- are $250 reias.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1864677]Just got back from Rio on April 3rd, 2016. Back after 10 years, big difference! (Dollar 3. 6 to 1).

Just not a lot of girls out, at Mabs on a Friday and Saturday night and the numbers and quality just low, going rate there was are $200-are $250.

Like someone mentioned before, I think most girls prefer a dance club to go in, until that returns the scene will be hurt. Also the fact that there no day spots to hang out hurts also, not being able to go to Meia Pataca around 3 pm for some daytime actions hurts, also didn't see any girls hanging on the beach in front of Meia Pataca and hotel Othon like they use to, the guys that worked the beach would let you know when you were walking by that there were puts in a section,nothing going on like that now..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1864677]Just got back from Rio on April 3rd, 2016. Back after 10 years, big difference! (Dollar 3. 6 to 1).

Just not a lot of girls out, at Mabs on a Friday and Saturday night and the numbers and quality just low, going rate there was are $200-are $250.

Like someone mentioned before, I think most girls prefer a dance club to go in, until that returns the scene will be hurt. Also the fact that there no day spots to hang out hurts also, not being able to go to Meia Pataca around 3 pm for some daytime actions hurts, also didn't see any girls hanging on the beach in front of Meia Pataca and hotel Othon like they use to, the guys that worked the beach would let you know when you were walking by that there were puts in a section,nothing going on like that now.

I think everybody crossing their fingers that after the Olympics that everything will go back to normal but there no guarantee to that,by this time next year we will know.

Many factors would have to be involved:

1. The dollar high maybe 5 to 1.

2. Airline flight prices reasonable.

3. Daytime spots like Meia Pataca start back letting chicas hang around.

4. A nightclub opens back up.[/QUOTE]The last price that will be adjusted will be termas-theyd rather give you 3 drinks for one than lower the price. LOL.

I remeber as a newbie in Rio in MC, I had a bad session-the girl went to the bathroom for like 15 minutes in the middle of it!

Needless to say I didn't take that too well and they tried to offer me free entry next time! Brazilian logic.

I said my session was 60 not 45 and girl argued for 5 so at the most was a 40 min one.

I think mongers will return after Olympics but I doubt another Help will ever open.

It will be freelancers and semi-pros and the remaining termas.

The tourist trap termas won't shut in Zona Sul but the ones dependent on local trade are at risk for sure.

Tourists don't tend to go there and if theyre the ones with the money its going to get tricky.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1777620]Ok, so who is she?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the real late response but she used to dance for a group called Das Popozudas. And at the time were the most popular baile group out there. Here's a pic of them. She is on the far right.

Dude scored the upper echelons of Brazilian funk culture and had no idea at the time.

[QUOTE=Troyster;1864665]The visa process isn't that bad. And to say that Americans won't visit be use of a visa is nonsense. The flights I take to Brazil from the US are near capacity load.[/QUOTE]It's a bit of a pain in the butt, but the visa application process isn't that onerous. The only Americans who won't go to Brazil because of it are a bunch of lazy, self-entitled gringos who act like the rest of the world is supposed to bend to cater to them all the time.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1864627]Barrier to entry visa helps keep the ratio down![/QUOTE]Yes, yes. Keep the ratio of Girls to guys up, the ratio us guys to girls down.

BTW, those are some cutes you posted.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1864653]The mulatas of the picks are superb!

ABG.[/QUOTE]They are both at Delirio talent there was very good last week. Eager to meet outside as well.

Luna and Isa website pics are accurate.

[URL]http://deliriooriental.com.br[/URL]

Hey,

Why should an American like to go to Brazil? Difficult to get a visa. Ugly girls that think they are a princess and want money like you are the king and buy her a castle. Go to Germany, they have everything in only one club. All in one place. Hot Romanian girls and even some Brazilians.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1864807] The only Americans who won't go to Brazil because of it are a bunch of lazy, self-entitled gringos who act like the rest of the world is supposed to bend to cater to them all the time.[/QUOTE]The visa process is actually hurting Brazilians and not Americans. Brazil is a 3rd World Country. Tourism is big business a multi billion dollar industry. Putting these visa road blocks on tourist with a lot of disposable income (Americans and Europeans) is stupid or or just insane. Your missing out on a lot potential revenue. Brazil does not create anything, all they have is OIL, and commodities and The US Government / CIA are punishing Brazil, Russia and China for trying to start there own World Bank (BRICS).

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS[/URL] Which is why there economy is in shambles right now.

So You cannot rely on just having a commodities based economy. Its always good to branch out and get heavily into tourism. So Americans can ***** and complain about the visa process, They are the once that spend a lot of money, Just like if I'm a car salesman.

I'm going to cater to my high net worth buyers, I'm not going to put up roadblocks, especially if I'm going broke.

[QUOTE=Germano123;1865203]Why should an American like to go to Brazil? Difficult to get a visa. Ugly girls that think they are a princess and want money like you are the king and buy her a castle. Go to Germany, they have everything in only one club. [/QUOTE]
Yes, everybody please stay far away from Brazil.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1865312]The visa process is actually hurting Brazilians and not Americans. Brazil is a 3rd World Country. Tourism is big business a multi billion dollar industry. Putting these visa road blocks on tourist with a lot of disposable income (Americans and Europeans) is stupid or or just insane.....[/QUOTE]
Europeans do not require a visa to visit Brazil up to 90 days for tourism. Americans need it, because Brazil maintains a fully reciprocal visa policy. I applaud Brazil, as a "3rd World Country", to stand up against the almighty USA.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1865373] I applaud Brazil, as a "3rd World Country", to stand up against the almighty USA.[/QUOTE]I can understand why the USA plays hardball with the visa, because if they open the doors, It would be a flood of immigrants trying to come to the USA. I don't see to many Americans willing to leave to head to Brazil to live and stay.

Brazil Economy is in the toilet and its only going to get worst when the Olympics is over, so they need all the tourist dollars they can get. Playing hardball only hurts them not the USA.

By all means stay away from this third-world country which is the world's largest exporter of sugar, coffee, orange juice, tobacco, beef, and poultry meat; the second-largest exporter of soybeans, soybean meal, and ethanol; and the fourth-largest pork exporter.

Brazil also is home to Embraer which competes internationally with Canadian rival Bombardier for the title of third-largest airplane maker after Airbus and Boeing.

Some of you more savvy members also may have heard of 3 G Capital which was founded by Brazilians in 2004 and has offices in New York and Rio. The firm is best known for partnering up with Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet) for its acquisitions, including those of Burger King, Tim Hortons, and Kraft Foods.

I, for one, am happy that Brazil is going through a cleansing. It would be nice to see some first-world countries follow suit.

Ignorance is only bliss for the ignorant. For everyone else, it is fucking annoying because if left unanswered often and long enough, even people who should know better, start to believe and perpetuate it.

ForceSteeler where are all the boots on the ground reports you promised us when pumping us for information?

You arrived, you saw, you came, then nothing.

Anything useful at all? Anything except how ill-advised it is for someone who can barely speak English to try to learn Portuguese might prove useful.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1865312]I'm going to cater to my high net worth buyers, I'm not going to put up roadblocks, especially if I'm going broke.[/QUOTE]I agree that from an economic standpoint Brazil is hurt by the practice of strict reciprocity more than is the USA. But in saying that, you entirely missed my point. If you want to go to what many of us in the Brazil section consider to be the best mongering destination on earth, then you aren't going to let having to jump through a few hoops here and there stop you from doing so. And anybody who does let that stop them just isn't serious about going anyway or, I say again, just plain lazy and self-entitled because they "shouldn't have to do that". That's the point! I'm not here to talk macroeconomics. I'm here to talk "mongernomics"! It's a wonder that some people even took the time to get a passport!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1865373]Europeans do not require a visa to visit Brazil up to 90 days for tourism. Americans need it, because Brazil maintains a fully reciprocal visa policy. I applaud Brazil, as a "3rd World Country", to stand up against the almighty USA.[/QUOTE]It's not just a USA thing Sperto. Canada, Japan, and Australia are also in this. Citizens of those countries normally are required to seek a visa to enter as well.

Hit Centro again yesterday, as usual.

Actually met a hot sweet, at U24, did the deed there, then she left with me to have dinner together.

After dinner, she split for home, got her digits, she came to my hotel today.

Fun times.

Last night, after my dinner rendezvous, hit Vila Mimosa.

Crazy fun there as always.

The good, the bad and the sexy!

[QUOTE=Germano123;1865203]Hey,

Why should an American like to go to Brazil? Difficult to get a visa. Ugly girls that think they are a princess and want money like you are the king and buy her a castle. Go to Germany, they have everything in only one club. All in one place. Hot Romanian girls and even some Brazilians.[/QUOTE]The FKKs are fantastic. Something every monger should experience. But the Romanians, Bulgarians, etc don't come close to Brasilenas in performance. Yes, you might find a stray Carioca here or there in the FKKs, but I wouldn't count on it.

And Rio has world-class beaches and is delightfully warm from Nov. April when Europe, Canada, and most of the USA Is miserable.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1865532]I agree that from an economic standpoint Brazil is hurt by the practice of strict reciprocity more than is the USA. But in saying that, you entirely missed my point. If you want to go to what many of us in the Brazil section consider to be the best mongering destination on earth, then you aren't going to let having to jump through a few hoops here and there stop you from doing so. And anybody who does let that stop them just isn't serious about going anyway or, I say again, just plain lazy and self-entitled because they "shouldn't have to do that". That's the point! I'm not here to talk macroeconomics. I'm here to talk "mongernomics"! It's a wonder that some people even took the time to get a passport![/QUOTE]Well I can understand the USA enacting a strict visa process because again its a 1st world country with many resources and opportunity. Immigrants from all over the world flock to the USA to live the American dream. So if the USA were to have a open border Policy, It will have massive over population. Nobody is saying Brazil should not have a Visa Restriction Policy for Americans but I think its kinda of stupid. Can you image if the Dominican Republic, Jamaica or any other Caribbean islands started a policy of tourist needing visas to enter? What will you think will happen to there economy of those countries?

I'm just saying since Brazil economy is shit, and its going to be in the toilet for a while, They need to put there pride aside and understand there are not a 1st world country. They need to make up loss revenue and start getting in the tourist billion dollar industry and stop wasting time with this tourist needing a visa to enter bullshit. You can act that way when your on top like USA, Europe, Japan, but not when your economy is in shambles.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1865587]I'm just saying since Brazil economy is shit, and its going to be in the toilet for a while, They need to put there pride aside and understand there are not a 1st world country.[/QUOTE]
English is not my first language, but like many Europeans I speak a handful of languages (actually 7) so I do my best to understand your post. I understand that you mean that because Brazil is having a crisis they should bend over to US. "There are not a 1st world country". I thought you meant that USA is a 1st world country.

Anybody knows the name of the Rio newspaper which used to have "daily puta" (in the nineties) which the readers could win in a lottery?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1659582]I am not calling the guy a liar, but please understand that it is not that easy to bed terma girls for free. Common sense will tell you that these girls see hundreds of dicks a month, what makes your dick any different? Is it possible to get a girl to meet you after hours? Yes! Is it possible to get them to do it without charging you? Happens rarely! Remember, every time a terma girl fucks for free, she is losing out on the opportunity to meet a paying client and make money. So the idea that she will stay for 3-4 days, fucking, cooking and cleaning for free, seems very far fetched.

Again, I am not calling him a liar, but I read his stories with a gigantic spoonful of salt. Maybe he is a Brad Pitt lookalike with a 15 inch dick, has women chasing him down the street begging to be fucked. Or maybe he is embellishing his stories a great deal. You be the judge. (they are entertaining stories though).

Now watch the board get deluged with guys boasting how they get free pussy all the time and have Centaraus girls begging to bring their twin sisters, cousins and moms to their apartments just for the honor of sucking their dick! LOL![/QUOTE]Every single post of mine is 100% accurate. Only thing I said was that I was fluent after 1 year and a half-this was conversational-in no way did I have the vocab of natives-I still don't but obviously it increases.

I have also posted strike outs. I have had quite a few bad ones in VM, in termas as well. Happens to anyone. ID say I have had 3 bad ones in 4 x 4,5 in MC,2 in Mv30 and maybe 8 or 10 in VM and 2 in Black & White plus some i really shouldnt have f*cked but I was just doin it for the hell of it.Never a good idea.. This is maybe out of hundreds.

Its an occupational hazard. I got too drunk to vet properly. You only let yourself get gringoed! And I have when I slipped. Fortunately not many times.

Yes it is true terma girls will and can see you out of the terma for food / drinks etc but you would def have to session with them first once or a few times and it takes alot of work.
I am actually seeing one as we speak and she has just quit the business after an unsuccesful,very short,unproductive 3 month career-shes 18.She is not a zona sul girl but from the ghetto and doesnt want to continue but wants to continue with me.
I sessioned with her once in a terma,which unfortunately I will not name as they read this as well-but we had amazing chemistry-way beyond just cool client/cool gdp.....just clicked.
Cant describe it really-but back to the point-

So if you get to the point where they just want to hang-you still at times might slip them 100-150-200 just because and a cab home etc but I have had that thrown back in my face too-flatly refused..from poor girls...maybe they too want someone even though its slightly delusional-some might have a kid or 2(primary reason to start i have found) or be the only one in the house working-when do they have excess time to meet someone? they dont have alot which is why it does happen from time to time at termas.I have had it happen and ive seen it and they have told me so regarding past dudes-someone might not have a boyfriend and the only sex they have is at work..Of course they can enjoy it at times-thats inevitable as well as hating much of it or just smoking weed to forget most of them..

But for sure it happens. They also tell me about past experiences where dudes have gamed them-tricked them into thinkin they would furnish their apartment etc when they only wanted free pussy.

It does work both ways.

I have had 5 from MC,1 from Florida,2 from MV30,2 from Cancun,2 from VM,1 from T65 on the basis I described-that's 13 "freebies" in 15 trips.

On top of that I have met 6 from Cupid who all turned into GFs. All 20+ years younger than me. In between the above mentioned or mixed in or mixed up.

Minas Gerais, Natal, Fortaleza, Belem and various from RIo on the non-pro side.
2 who did not work out at all-who were just bad people in real life and a total waste of time or I had been speaking to sisters on Cupid without knowing it and they wanted revenge on me etc!lool.This actually happened!.

I came to Brazil speaking zero portugues in 2013 but I do speak french and quite a few other languages so I guess I pick up languages easy.

I am not here to show off. I have reported many helpful things to newbies-tips. Experiences with Brazilian culture, girls-ups and downs.

I guess you just fit in better in some places-in some places I don't have the luck I have in Brazil. It depends. Its also cultural I believe and personal.

Abracos.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1866444]I am not here to show off.[/QUOTE]No, you are just here to bring up a post that is over 14 months old.

Give it a rest. No one cares.

Hi guys,

I'll be in Rio fort the 1st time in my life next month, I'm learning Portuguese and I'd like to know except Vila Mimosa where are the best places to have cheap sex especially anal.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rani2206;1866624]Hi guys,

I'll be in Rio fort the 1st time in my life next month, I'm learning Portuguese and I'd like to know except Vila Mimosa where are the best places to have cheap sex especially anal.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Try: R. Raul Pompéia, 102 - Copacabana.

Last time I heard you could get anal for 50 Reais. No Portuguese necessary.

Some of the Rio Experts who live there or have visited more recently might have the most up-to-date price.

[QUOTE=Rani2206;1866624]Hi guys,

I'll be in Rio fort the 1st time in my life next month, I'm learning Portuguese and I'd like to know except Vila Mimosa where are the best places to have cheap sex especially anal.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Privees will probably be your best bet but check people like sperto's posts on which ones and who does anal.

I have never used a privee, only termas from tier 1 to tier 20 (merda).

Had a dream I spent this weekend in rio, in the dream went to 4 x4 the total 400 for 1 hour beautiful and friendly girl. In my dream also went to Mabs, 60% of the girls were from a terror movie and I was having nightmares, 30% were soso and 10% good quality, went with a pretty girls no tattos, no, pircings, clean lady for 300 but at the time of action gave me bad vibes and couldn't maket stand, and then woke up sweating.

Went back to, sleep and met a girl from BC nice lady that live about an hour from copa, went to pick her up and had a good time with her, nice body soso face, nice personality and a decent girl, the problem now she is in love with me and wants my uncondianal loyalty. Will see. Just wake up again with a smile.

P. s in amy dream had a very tough time at the windsor hotel, they are like gestapo, then went to isis copa and bit more relaxed.

[QUOTE=Pelon74;1866954]Had a dream I spent this weekend in rio, in the dream went to 4 x4 the total 400 for 1 hour beautiful and friendly girl. In my dream also went to Mabs, 60% of the girls were from a terror movie and I was having nightmares, 30% were soso and 10% good quality, went with a pretty girls no tattos, no, pircings, clean lady for 300 but at the time of action gave me bad vibes and couldn't maket stand, and then woke up sweating.

Went back to, sleep and met a girl from BC nice lady that live about an hour from copa, went to pick her up and had a good time with her, nice body soso face, nice personality and a decent girl, the problem now she is in love with me and wants my uncondianal loyalty. Will see. Just wake up again with a smile.

P. s in amy dream had a very tough time at the windsor hotel, they are like gestapo, then went to isis copa and bit more relaxed.[/QUOTE]LOL IBIS you mean. Defo less gestapo than Windsor! Windsor is a no-no in dreams or in reality!

[QUOTE=Pelon74;1866954]Had a dream I spent this weekend in rio, in the dream went to 4 x4 the total 400 for 1 hour beautiful and friendly girl. In my dream also went to Mabs, 60% of the girls were from a terror movie and I was having nightmares, 30% were soso and 10% good quality, went with a pretty girls no tattos, no, pircings, clean lady for 300 but at the time of action gave me bad vibes and couldn't maket stand, and then woke up sweating.

Went back to, sleep and met a girl from BC nice lady that live about an hour from copa, went to pick her up and had a good time with her, nice body soso face, nice personality and a decent girl, the problem now she is in love with me and wants my uncondianal loyalty. Will see. Just wake up again with a smile.

P. s in amy dream had a very tough time at the windsor hotel, they are like gestapo, then went to isis copa and bit more relaxed.[/QUOTE]No doubt is was a dream, 4 x 4 is 100% closed on weekends.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1866523]No, you are just here to bring up a post that is over 14 months old.

Give it a rest. No one cares.[/QUOTE]Yeah seriously, why reply to a post from over a year ago that you already replied to?

[QUOTE=Mangera;1866966]No doubt is was a dream, 4 x 4 is 100% closed on weekends.[/QUOTE]Haven't been to Brazil, thinking of coming for labor day. Are all termas closed on the weekends or just 4 X4? Seems like a strange policy.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1867019]Haven't been to Brazil, thinking of coming for labor day. Are all termas closed on the weekends or just 4 X4? Seems like a strange policy.[/QUOTE]Planning a trip to Rio requires some basic research starting with the neighborhoods. Downtown, known as Centro is very active during weekday working hours but little goes on during the weekend. This is because the focus of ALL businesses in Centro is on Brazilians, regardless of what self-important gringos would have you believe. Gringos come and go, Brazilians, especially politicians and police are there to stay. Another benefit of speaking Portuguese and not being a jerk is who you get introduced to in the termas. At any one time in 4 x 4 there are probably 5-10 cops, especially on Thursday and Friday nights.

Some of the best sources of information are those used by Brazilians:

[URL]http://www.gparena.net/[/URL]

[URL]http://rio-de-janeiro.vivalocal.com/acompanhante-erotico[/URL]+rio-de-janeiro-capital.

[URL]http://www.gdpguia.net[/URL] (from in Brazil or use a proxy).

Brazil's lower house: Impeach President.

[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/17/americas/brazil-impeachment-dilma-rousseff/index.html[/URL]

Well on my dream Friday is considered part of the weekend, also remebre that I went to solarium 500 40 min program, that made wake up also, thoigh the girl was very pretty.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1866966]No doubt is was a dream, 4 x 4 is 100% closed on weekends.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1866821]Privees will probably be your best bet but check people like sperto's posts on which ones and who does anal.[/QUOTE]Propably a waste of time. I'm not interested in anal and because of this I have no anal recommendations.

LOL yes its iBiS! You know how dreams are, sometimes confusing, IBIS will allow only two people at a time but they will accept several guests.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1866965]LOL IBIS you mean. Defo less gestapo than Windsor! Windsor is a no-no in dreams or in reality![/QUOTE]

1) Only received 3. 53 R on exchange rate, nice drop from 4 R just a month ago.

2) Mabs and all surrounding areas are stuffed with scary looking females at night. My past trips I used to have one encounter during the day and then save up my energy for night time. Now its completely different. I am in bed by 11PM-12AM and try to hit 2-3 prives during the day time.

3) Girls are expecting more of BFE experience now. In the past when the girls lived in Copa, I could call them over and 5 minutes after they walked in the door, we would be fucking. Now since girls have to travel for 2+ hours by bus, they want to be taken out to eat and and bought drinks before they come up to the room. This has happened on 3 separate occasions. When they go to copa they would call me and tell me to come downstairs. I would ask for what. And their responses would be lets go have some drinks somewhere. When I told them that I had alcohol in my apartment the response was "Yeah, but lets people watch, lets sit at a bar on the beach then we can go to your place later!" (this can add 2-300 R to the bottom line).

4) Taxis are shockingly expensive at night. WTF? I was never that much of a fan of buses and vans, but the cabs cost a fortune to take at night. 40 R to go from Copa to Lapa!! That used to be a 15 R ride the last time I was in Brazil!

On a positive note, Coconuts are only 6 R, still expensive but not too bad for us gringos at this current exchange rate!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1868048]1) Only received 3. 53 R on exchange rate, nice drop from 4 R just a month ago.

2) Mabs and all surrounding areas are stuffed with scary looking females at night. My past trips I used to have one encounter during the day and then save up my energy for night time. Now its completely different. I am in bed by 11PM-12AM and try to hit 2-3 prives during the day time.

3) Girls are expecting more of BFE experience now. In the past when the girls lived in Copa, I could call them over and 5 minutes after they walked in the door, we would be fucking. Now since girls have to travel for 2+ hours by bus, they want to be taken out to eat and and bought drinks before they come up to the room. This has happened on 3 separate occasions. When they go to copa they would call me and tell me to come downstairs. I would ask for what. And their responses would be lets go have some drinks somewhere. When I told them that I had alcohol in my apartment the response was "Yeah, but lets people watch, lets sit at a bar on the beach then we can go to your place later!" (this can add 2-300 R to the bottom line).

4) Taxis are shockingly expensive at night. WTF? I was never that much of a fan of buses and vans, but the cabs cost a fortune to take at night. 40 R to go from Copa to Lapa!! That used to be a 15 R ride the last time I was in Brazil!

On a positive note, Coconuts are only 6 R, still expensive but not too bad for us gringos at this current exchange rate!![/QUOTE]Coconuts are 4 reais at p5 at one of the beach vendors. Regarding the girls expecting BFE treatment, its up to you what you tell them upfront that there won't be wining and dining allthough you might bring sth back to the crib....i mean it works both ways.Grabbing a drink could warm her up first and wouldn't kill the pockets but it's a BUYERS MARKET!. Then it's up to them what they want. If they don't want the Reais for just comin straight to the apartment and doing the damn thing, someone else will.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1868048]1) Only received 3. 53 R on exchange rate, nice drop from 4 R just a month ago.

2) Mabs and all surrounding areas are stuffed with scary looking females at night. My past trips I used to have one encounter during the day and then save up my energy for night time. Now its completely different. I am in bed by 11PM-12AM and try to hit 2-3 prives during the day time.

3) Girls are expecting more of BFE experience now. In the past when the girls lived in Copa, I could call them over and 5 minutes after they walked in the door, we would be fucking. Now since girls have to travel for 2+ hours by bus, they want to be taken out to eat and bought drinks before they come up to the room. This has happened on 3 separate occasions. When they go to copa they would call me and tell me to come downstairs. I would ask for what. And their responses would be lets go have some drinks somewhere. When I told them that I had alcohol in my apartment the response was "Yeah, but lets people watch, lets sit at a bar on the beach then we can go to your place later!" (this can add 2-300 R to the bottom line)...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1868113]Coconuts are 4 reais at p5 at one of the beach vendors. Regarding the girls expecting BFE treatment, its up to you what you tell them upfront that there won't be wining and dining allthough you might bring sth back to the crib....i mean it works both ways.Grabbing a drink could warm her up first and wouldn't kill the pockets but it's a BUYERS MARKET!. Then it's up to them what they want. If they don't want the Reais for just comin straight to the apartment and doing the damn thing, someone else will.[/QUOTE]Wow! If a member with 1150 posts, who has been visiting Rio for what seems like forever, needs schooled by a relative newbie with all the answers then what hope is there for us mere mortals?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1868218]Wow! If a member with 1150 posts, who has been visiting Rio for what seems like forever, needs schooled by a relative newbie with all the answers then what hope is there for us mere mortals?[/QUOTE]Sorry if I offended you O. G!

Respect is due naturally. But it is a buyer's market and yes they will always try it on but theres a crisis so we got to let them know what the deal is or else they run all over us. GDP style. Give them a finger and they'll take the hand. Give them a hand and theyll take the arm off! LOL.

I would say that around 4 years ago or so, there were an abundance of well priced agencies that was as easy to use as ordering dominoes pizza (Karla Models, etc.). At the present moment, there are a few agencies, but they seem to be more bait and switch, as well as high end. Termas and Prives options and availability have pretty much stayed the same since 10 years ago or so. That has changed slightly with a couple of Termas (Luomos, T65, etc.) closing lately due to the economy. However, what the hell happened with the good selection of escort agencies? Any theories from the Rio veterans?

[QUOTE=Mangera;1868464]I would say that around 4 years ago or so, there were an abundance of well priced agencies that was as easy to use as ordering dominoes pizza (Karla Models, etc.). At the present moment, there are a few agencies, but they seem to be more bait and switch, as well as high end. Termas and Prives options and availability have pretty much stayed the same since 10 years ago or so. That has changed slightly with a couple of Termas (Luomos, T65, etc.) closing lately due to the economy. However, what the hell happened with the good selection of escort agencies? Any theories from the Rio veterans?[/QUOTE]Those agencies existed because the girls could not advertise themselves. I used quite a few agencies and if a girl liked you she would just give you her number. No doubt among Brazilians, a girl's number was passed around and the agency lost their cut. Social media. Facebook, Skype and particularly WhatsApp have made it easy to reach out to potential clients. Rio BackPage has about 100 ads listed today.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1868464]I would say that around 4 years ago or so, there were an abundance of well priced agencies that was as easy to use as ordering dominoes pizza (Karla Models, etc.). At the present moment, there are a few agencies, but they seem to be more bait and switch, as well as high end. Termas and Prives options and availability have pretty much stayed the same since 10 years ago or so. That has changed slightly with a couple of Termas (Luomos, T65, etc.) closing lately due to the economy. However, what the hell happened with the good selection of escort agencies? Any theories from the Rio veterans?[/QUOTE]Could the reason why Karla models / Scort show went out of business is because they blurred the legal lines? Maybe because the girls lived at the apartment and the manager sent them out to see clients it was considered pimping? I really have no idea, I am just grasping at straws.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1868502]Those agencies existed because the girls could not advertise themselves. I used quite a few agencies and if a girl liked you she would just give you her number. No doubt among Brazilians, a girl's number was passed around and the agency lost their cut. Social media. Facebook, Skype and particularly WhatsApp have made it easy to reach out to potential clients. Rio BackPage has about 100 ads listed today.[/QUOTE]Good point. However, agencies like Karla Models had excellent rates considering it was for 2 HR period. It was practical going to Hotel Serrano and calling them, 15 minutes later. They were there at your door. Those were the days BTW, the majority of the ladies provided excellent service.

I bike a lot when I'm in Rio. I was looking forward to use the new Ciclovia Tim Maia, na avenida Niemeyer. A construction that cost R$45. The bike lane has great scenery and some parts of the bike lane is constructed just hanging over the cliffs. Yesterday 50 m of the bike lane collapsed down to the cliffs and into the ocean. Two people died. I can't say that I'm surprised. Hopefully the heads of some engineers will roll.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/desabamento-de-ciclovia-recem-inaugurada-deixa-ao-menos-dois-mortos-19139109[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869070]A construction that cost R$45.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, R$45 million...

Staying at Sheraton Barra, can anyone recommend go escort.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869070]I bike a lot when I'm in Rio. I was looking forward to use the new Ciclovia Tim Maia, na avenida Niemeyer. A construction that cost R$45. The bike lane has great scenery and some parts of the bike lane is constructed just hanging over the cliffs. Yesterday 50 m of the bike lane collapsed down to the cliffs and into the ocean. Two people died. I can't say that I'm surprised. Hopefully the heads of some engineers will roll.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/desabamento-de-ciclovia-recem-inaugurada-deixa-ao-menos-dois-mortos-19139109[/URL][/QUOTE]I had been looking forward to this path myself whether for biking or walking as I often walk to the Sheraton.

I have seen several YouTube videos of this bike path and this particular one when I saw it I questioned how sturdy it would be and apparently it wasn't very secure, too bad.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3gmZZzEjwk[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869070]Two people died.[/QUOTE]
Correction. They are looking for 3 more victims. Brazilian construction engineers can't be very skilled. Some of you might remember the collapsed high-rise buildings on Av Treze de Maío in 2012 and the marquis of Hotel Canadá that broke and killed 2 people in 2007.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1869256]Staying at Sheraton Barra, can anyone recommend go escort.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have a couple of phone numbers to highly recommended escorts in Barra. All 20 years old girls with huge natural tits who happily take it in the fiofó (second hole) and who also does BBBJCIM. Wait, you're a 32 poster, very well-traveled, who only asks for information and never shares any information. No cookie for you.
However, you could go to to the boca de fumo in Vidigal and ask for one of the primas. God, how I hate lurkers. Don't you understand to keep the forum alive you have to share information, not only take.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869349]Yes, I have a couple of phone numbers to highly recommended escorts in Barra. All 20 years old girls with huge natural tits who happily take it in the fiof (second hole) and who also does BBBJCIM. Wait, you're a 32 poster, very well-traveled, who only asks for information and never shares any information. No cookie for you.
However, you could go to to the boca de fumo in Vidigal and ask for one of the primas. God, how I hate lurkers. Don't you understand to keep the forum alive you have to share information, not only take.[/QUOTE]Wise words Sperto!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869349]Yes, I have a couple of phone numbers to highly recommended escorts in Barra. All 20 years old girls with huge natural tits who happily take it in the fiof (second hole) and who also does BBBJCIM. Wait, you're a 32 poster, very well-traveled, who only asks for information and never shares any information. No cookie for you.
However, you could go to to the boca de fumo in Vidigal and ask for one of the primas. God, how I hate lurkers. Don't you understand to keep the forum alive you have to share information, not only take.[/QUOTE]Wise words Sperto! Down with the sonegadores!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869349]Yes, I have a couple of phone numbers to highly recommended escorts in Barra. All 20 years old girls with huge natural tits who happily take it in the fiof (second hole) and who also does BBBJCIM. Wait, you're a 32 poster, very well-traveled, who only asks for information and never shares any information. No cookie for you.
However, you could go to to the boca de fumo in Vidigal and ask for one of the primas. God, how I hate lurkers. Don't you understand to keep the forum alive you have to share information, not only take.[/QUOTE]I have shared information where I have traveled, please read my posts, I will write Sao Paulo post after completing my Brazil trip.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869070]I bike a lot when I'm in Rio. I was looking forward to use the new Ciclovia Tim Maia, na avenida Niemeyer. A construction that cost R$45. The bike lane has great scenery and some parts of the bike lane is constructed just hanging over the cliffs. Yesterday 50 m of the bike lane collapsed down to the cliffs and into the ocean. Two people died. I can't say that I'm surprised. Hopefully the heads of some engineers will roll.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/desabamento-de-ciclovia-recem-inaugurada-deixa-ao-menos-dois-mortos-19139109[/URL][/QUOTE]SO the government reports that a huge wave was the cause of the collapse. An architect friend of mine who just arrived to the US from a ten day stay in Rio, and a frequent Rio traveler, told me he actually to that bike path about 5 or 6 times during this past trip. He calls bullshit on the wave theory. He said his hunch is that bad planning took place. He found out from a Carioca friend that this particular portion of the path which collapsed, has supports which were based in a specific area which was a former spot of something that was built over 100 years ago. The soil / gravel / ground, etc. , was not sturdy.

My friend is trying to confirm this piece of information from people in the engineering / architecture field in Rio de Janeiro. Unbelievable! From what I read in the Guardian, it costs over 12 million USA Dollars to build that crap. Wonderful idea, poor execution to make it happen. Oylmpic Supervisor steps down, crap in the bay, Zika, new structures falling apart, presidential impeachment, etc. Geez, and I thought the loss to Germany in the World Cups was embarassing, but his takes the cake.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1869424]Olympic Supervisor steps down, crap in the bay, Zika, new structures falling apart, presidential impeachment, etc. Geez, and I thought the loss to Germany in the World Cups was embarrassing, but his takes the cake.[/QUOTE]Complete and total embarrassment for this country! They never should have been awarded the Olympic Games and barely pulled off the World Cup! Like India with the Commonwealth Games, Brazil wanted to show the world that they have "arrived" to the big time. Hahahahaha! And we saw how well that worked out for India right? What a joke if only it wasn't so sad! And don't forget the people who died working on "Pharaoh's" stadiums either! The fraud and the corruption. Why, if they didn't have the baddest tutes on the planet, then I just don't know!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1869424]SO the government reports that a huge wave was the cause of the collapse. An architect friend of mine who just arrived to the US from a ten day stay in Rio, and a frequent Rio traveler, told me he actually to that bike path about 5 or 6 times during this past trip. He calls bullshit on the wave theory. He said his hunch is that bad planning took place. He found out from a Carioca friend that this particular portion of the path which collapsed, has supports which were based in a specific area which was a former spot of something that was built over 100 years ago. The soil / gravel / ground, etc. , was not sturdy.

My friend is trying to confirm this piece of information from people in the engineering / architecture field in Rio de Janeiro. Unbelievable! From what I read in the Guardian, it costs over 12 million USA Dollars to build that crap. Wonderful idea, poor execution to make it happen. Oylmpic Supervisor steps down, crap in the bay, Zika, new structures falling apart, presidential impeachment, etc. Geez, and I thought the loss to Germany in the World Cups was embarassing, but his takes the cake.[/QUOTE]Building an unsafe unsupported structure on eroding ground is genius. Just like the bridge that collapsed which leads to the Sao Paolo stadium. Shabby work. Brazil needs an overhaul from the top to the bottom.

The problem wasn't the ground. The problem was that the bike lane wasn't secured enough to the columns. The wave lifted the bike lane so it fell down.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/04/parte-da-ciclovia-desaba-em-sao-conrado-zona-sul-do-rio.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869570]The problem wasn't the ground. The problem was that the bike lane wasn't secured enough to the columns. The wave lifted the bike lane so it fell down.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/04/parte-da-ciclovia-desaba-em-sao-conrado-zona-sul-do-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Gotcha-and how surprising Rio trying to blame it on the waves-probably to avoid the inevitable lawsuits that should rain in. What a run Rio is on.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1869256]Staying at Sheraton Barra, can anyone recommend go escort.[/QUOTE]Barra?! Why you staying in Barra?? Am surprised you didn't ask where to stay while in Rio. (You DO have a pattern of only asking.) :(

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869349]Wait, you're a 32 poster, very well-traveled, who only asks for information and never shares any information. No cookie for you.
Don't you understand to keep the forum alive you have to share information, not only take.[/QUOTE]Withhold the milk too. :eek:

[QUOTE=Cheema;1869394]I have shared information where I have traveled, please read my posts.[/QUOTE]I DID read your posts. Out of the 33 posts, only three shared Info: one on Sofia, and two on Bucharest. Two other ones referenced the first Bucharest post. Where are the reports on the German FKK, Morocco, Medellin, Kiev, and Chisinau trips? Here on the Rio thread we'll call you out on stuff like that. Happy travels to you. (A bit of insomnia tonight, I had nutin better to do.) :)

[QUOTE=Mangera;1869424]Geez, and I thought the loss to Germany in the World Cups was embarassing, but his takes the cake.[/QUOTE]Nah! Wait for the fiasco that will be the Olympics.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1869453]Brazil needs an overhaul from the top to the bottom.[/QUOTE]Come on, Man! This is Brazil!! The problem is systematic. It would require the politicians to vote against their own self interests.

[URL]http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-giant-problem-1461359723[/URL]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1869650]Nah! Wait for the fiasco that will be the Olympics.

Come on, Man! This is Brazil!! The problem is systematic. It would require the politicians to vote against their own self interests.

[URL]http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-giant-problem-1461359723[/URL][/QUOTE]It would require a civil war and a removal of congress, senate, head of Police-a revolution.

Thats the only way Brazil will change-everything else will just always be the lesser of 2 (or 3,or 4.) evils. Dilma, Tenner, Lula<head of congress. All under investigation.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869570]The problem wasn't the ground. The problem was that the bike lane wasn't secured enough to the columns. The wave lifted the bike lane so it fell down.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/04/parte-da-ciclovia-desaba-em-sao-conrado-zona-sul-do-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]If securing a bike path was a challenge, what are people suppose to think about the new Metro routes to Leblon and Barra. Construction taking place under under time constraints. Scary. Hopefully, all turns out well with those tunnels located under the city streets, buildings, etc.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869070]I bike a lot when I'm in Rio. I was looking forward to use the new Ciclovia Tim Maia, na avenida Niemeyer. A construction that cost R$45. The bike lane has great scenery and some parts of the bike lane is constructed just hanging over the cliffs. Yesterday 50 m of the bike lane collapsed down to the cliffs and into the ocean. Two people died. I can't say that I'm surprised. Hopefully the heads of some engineers will roll.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/desabamento-de-ciclovia-recem-inaugurada-deixa-ao-menos-dois-mortos-19139109[/URL][/QUOTE]Road bike or Mountain bike? I have a Scott full suspension, probably not a good idea to bring.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1869587]Gotcha-and how surprising Rio trying to blame it on the waves-probably to avoid the inevitable lawsuits that should rain in. What a run Rio is on.[/QUOTE]I am traveling to Rio in two weeks and I am trying line up some girls for my visit, does any of you have any intel on this girl.

[URL]http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile_lucyjawara.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=DetJunky;1869719]I am traveling to Rio in two weeks and I am trying line up some girls for my visit, does any of you have any intel on this girl.

[URL]http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile_lucyjawara.html[/URL][/QUOTE]You are going to Rio and your romancelatina link is from a girl in Bahia? Also the picture you posted is quite obviously not the same girl in the romancelatina link.

Also why did you choose romancelatina to look for girls in Rio? This site was owned by one of the Mansion owners in Medellin not sure if he sold it or not but its very Medellin oriented.

Braziliancupid would provide you 100 x the choices.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1869642]Barra?! Why you staying in Barra?? Am surprised you didn't ask where to stay while in Rio. (You DO have a pattern of only asking.) :(

Withhold the milk too. :eek:

I DID read your posts. Out of the 33 posts, only three shared Info: one on Sofia, and two on Bucharest. Two other ones referenced the first Bucharest post. Where are the reports on the German FKK, Morocco, Medellin, Kiev, and Chisinau trips? Here on the Rio thread we'll call you out on stuff like that. Happy travels to you. (A bit of insomnia tonight, I had nutin better to do.) :)[/QUOTE]I have moved to Ibis Copacabana posto 2 today, I am here for 2 days, than might not comeback to Brazil again because it take 2 months to get visa and 2000 usd for air ticket to visit Brazil, actually I am more of a tourist than monger visit different countries every time and do not stay more than 3 days, I did not get any sex in Morocco because could not find apartment and Sheraton Casablanca was dead when I visited, I have not visited Kiev or Chisinau yet will visit next month and could not get visa for Colombia so might visit next year, regarding FKK in Frankfurt I visited FKK Oase but don't write post because I don't remember the names of girls, and pricing everybody already knows. I have given my information on Budapest, Sofia and Bucharest, these are 3 places which I visited in 2015 , and Brazil is my first trip in 2016. So, I can only request you for info, as I might not come back to Brazil ever again in my life.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1869681]Road bike or Mountain bike? I have a Scott full suspension, probably not a good idea to bring.[/QUOTE]
Mountain bike. I brought mine from home and leave it a friends apartment when I return back home. When traveling with British Airways the bike counts as the second luggage, no extra costs. I would never waste any money on a crappy Brazilian bike. My bike calls for a lot of attention, but I never had any problems. You just have to be cautious (bike thefts are common), as always in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1869759]You are going to Rio and your romancelatina link is from a girl in Bahia? Also the picture you posted is quite obviously not the same girl in the romancelatina link.

Also why did you choose romancelatina to look for girls in Rio? This site was owned by one of the Mansion owners in Medellin not sure if he sold it or not but its very Medellin oriented.

Braziliancupid would provide you 100 x the choices.[/QUOTE]BrazilCupid for sure is the one. Great chance of sexo if you get to meet up-even on first date can happen for sure.

Brazilcupid has been my sole source of non-pros in Brazil. Never needed anything else-obviously meeting some in the Rio nightlife but the advantage of communicating for few weeks before hand increases trust and familiarity and youarent strangers when meeting in a conventional sense.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1869864]Brazilcupid has been my sole source of non-pros in Brazil. Never needed anything else..[/QUOTE]
Considering that you're always announcing that you're the God's gift to the Brazilian women, and that you "speak fluent Portuguese", I find it a bit weird that your sole source of non-pro's in Brazil is Brazilcupid. Brazil is probably one of the easiest countries in the world to get laid for free. The day I need a dating site to get laid for free in Brazil I'll retire. Maybe because I'm from the old school where you had to go to a banca de revista and buy tokens to the phone booths to be able to call the GFs. :)

[QUOTE=Sperto;1869892]Considering that you're always announcing that you're the God's gift to the Brazilian women, and that you "speak fluent Portuguese", I find it a bit weird that your sole source of non-pro's in Brazil is Brazilcupid. Brazil is probably one of the easiest countries in the world to get laid for free. The day I need a dating site to get laid for free in Brazil I'll retire. Maybe because I'm from the old school where you had to go to a banca de revista and buy tokens to the phone booths to be able to call the GFs. :)[/QUOTE]To each his own-you travel to every state, I meet them online cause I'm not there enough to do the same amount of travellng-but. Girls are still free.

I said of course I've met girls in Rio nightlife and through friends but in all honesty I've met some greater ones online and I'm not in Brazil enough so for me it works to meet them online-and yes its for free.

-and also its easier to meet girls from all over Brazil-.

Why do you think Tinder is so big in Rio and Brazil in general?

And cupid has a million members?-seems many might agree that its practical online and tbh many people dont have the time to put in the footwork due to work etc but

-great that you still hunt by foot.That should never die.Its great but I prefer hittin 15 good ones at once online and see what comes from it-but having said that there are always so many natural stunners all day walking on Nossa Senhora and I did meet a very kind,nice mulatta working in Nike Town Copacabana.
she works on the 2nd floor btw if youre passing through.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1869802]I have moved to Ibis Copacabana posto 2 today, I am here for 2 days, than might not comeback to Brazil again because it take 2 months to get visa and 2000 usd for air ticket to visit Brazil, actually I am more of a tourist than monger visit different countries every time and do not stay more than 3 days, I did not get any sex in Morocco because could not find apartment and Sheraton Casablanca was dead when I visited, I have not visited Kiev or Chisinau yet will visit next month and could not get visa for Colombia so might visit next year, regarding FKK in Frankfurt I visited FKK Oase but don't write post because I don't remember the names of girls, and pricing everybody already knows. I have given my information on Budapest, Sofia and Bucharest, these are 3 places which I visited in 2015 , and Brazil is my first trip in 2016. So, I can only request you for info, as I might not come back to Brazil ever again in my life.[/QUOTE]Maybe that's not such a bad thing after all.

Hello,

Here a a report on my first trip to Rio, this was only a five day trip will be going for a longer trip in October. A few rookie mistakes but I think did learn from them, thanks a lot from reading reports and guides from the veterans of the site thanks for the insights. First mistake was not properly booking my apartment for this trip first choice had gotten booked just before I decided to make the trip (spur of the moment) then a few others fell through so had to scramble for a place at the last minute not making that mistake again. I stayed in the Catete area near the metro Largo de Machado station area I find to be very safe and always to have people about until very late will be staying in the area again because first choice is not far from where I stayed. Learning the language is a must even if a few words can help. After reading the forums about the ATM card scams I decided to exchange only cash found rates to be within daily rates at the Cambios in the area 3. 60:1. I have found that it can be a bit difficult getting freelancers to come to your apartment be a few said that they only meet in a hotel or a motel maybe its because of their first time being contacted by me but they takes a very long time to reply on Whatsapp. A big thanks to Sperto for his reports especially on the prives in Centro it was a big help felt like I had already been to some of those places because of the accuracy of his reports, I can't remember the names of the places but one of the buildings I had to go down a winding walking corridor to get to the elevators that takes you to different floors. I chuckled because the building looked so modern outside but when you get the floors it looked like a blast from the past and also what was literally right besides some for the prives was administration offices or doctors and lawyers offices that took some getting used to. The second building was more like a mall setup and the offices was a bit better setup brighter and airy. I took some of Sperto's advice about taking the elevator to a higher floor then working my way down because I only took the day to experience what was being talked about here on the forum I didn't get the session with any girls at the Centro prive, prices ranged from are $100/30 mins to are $140-are $200/1 HR you had a lot of doable women at those places will go there when I return. I didn't get to visit any of the termas this trip but would like to experience it, I did get to experience Vila Mimosa and it was something to see for yourself but smaller than I expected but had a fun time and felt safe while there session with two girls that night. During one of the day I got to meet pornstar Darlene Amaro we agreed to are $500/3 hrs and she stayed for 4, I must say that she was fun to be with and also we got to talk about things between rounds, would meet with her again. Didn't get to explore more because at first I wasn't sure how to take the metro but found it to be very easy and experiencing it during rush hour is and adventure in itself the way the pack into a already filled cart, sardine anyone. This trip was more of a experience for me than fucking women because I can now that I have found my new spot, I love DR but Brazil hands down no comparison so much can be achieved by learning the language and culture, new horizons to be discover but to tell the truth that is one long fucking flight have to used my airline connection to fly first class so I can be way more comfortable LOL. Again thanks fellow mongers and looking for whatever advice and input that is given.

Now men, many of us have posted hot fotos of our beloved Brasileiras.

But, the true test of our manhood as mongers must be this.

Has a Brazilian escort / GDP posted a picture and / or video of you on her website?

Now, men, this is a hat trick. If you haven't yet succeeded, there is time, even for you, Vader. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1870087]Now men, many of us have posted hot fotos of our beloved Brasileiras.

But, the true test of our manhood as mongers must be this.

Has a Brazilian escort / GDP posted a picture and / or video of you on her website?

Now, men, this is a hat trick. If you haven't yet succeeded, there is time, even for you, Vader. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Make sure to pull the Baseball Cap waaaay down over the eyes! Kkkk-and cover any recognizable tattoos! Hahahah- create the first monger star-he can charge the gdps instead.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1869802] I am here for 2 days, than might not comeback to Brazil again because it take 2 months to get visa and 2000 usd for air ticket to visit Brazil, actually I am more of a tourist than monger visit different countries every time and do not stay more than 3 days[/QUOTE]Forgive me, but curiosity has gotten the better of me:

1. Where you from, that it takes 2 months to get the Brazilian Visa? (For most of us here, it takes a week.).

2. So you spend $2000 USD on airfare, fly ALL the WAY to Rio, and JUST stay 2 days?! :confused: (I travel that far anywhere, I have to stay at least 10 days.).

3. You visit many countries, but do NOT stay more than 3 days. (Even if, you don't monger, you can post positive / negative experiences about your trip in the General threads. Hotel, restaurant recommendations, that sort of thing.). Best of luck Sir.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1870313]Forgive me, but curiosity has gotten the better of me:

1. Where you from, that it takes 2 months to get the Brazilian Visa? (For most of us here, it takes a week.).

2. So you spend $2000 USD on airfare, fly ALL the WAY to Rio, and JUST stay 2 days?! :confused: (I travel that far anywhere, I have to stay at least 10 days.).

3. You visit many countries, but do NOT stay more than 3 days. (Even if, you don't monger, you can post positive / negative experiences about your trip in the General threads. Hotel, restaurant recommendations, that sort of thing.). Best of luck Sir.[/QUOTE]I want to disclose my identity, but in my country it takes 20 working days to get Brazil visa but due to Olympics or whatever reason in my case and other persons who applied in same period it even takes more than 2 months, as I had you. S and Schengen visa they gave me visa when I asked them to give my passport back I don't want to go so they give me visa next day. There was some problem with the embassy a lot of people were angry there because of delay. My original plan was to visit Argentina, Brazil and Colombia as part of my South America trip to cover airfare cost, but could not get visas in time, so come to Brazil for 7 days 3 in São Paulo one overnight bus to Rio and 3 days in Rio. Thanks for for your suggestions I write about tourist information after my visits.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1870359]I want to disclose my identity, but in my country it takes 20 working days to get Brazil visa but due to Olympics or whatever reason in my case and other persons who applied in same period it even takes more than 2 months, as I had you. S and Schengen visa they gave me visa when I asked them to give my passport back I don't want to go so they give me visa next day. There was some problem with the embassy a lot of people were angry there because of delay. My original plan was to visit Argentina, Brazil and Colombia as part of my South America trip to cover airfare cost, but could not get visas in time, so come to Brazil for 7 days 3 in So Paulo one overnight bus to Rio and 3 days in Rio. Thanks for for your suggestions I write about tourist information after my visits.[/QUOTE]You spent $2000 on a ticket to Brazil but then opted for an overnight bus from Sao Paulo to Rio? Last time my ticket was $34 and took 55 minutes.

With all the difficulty it took you to get the visa for Brazil why not stay a little longer?

Strange story.

Shout out to Sperto for providing so much information on prives. I have been going to Rio forever and never even knew that prives existed before Sperto's reports. I can't add to much to what he already posted but I do have a couple of tips of my own.

1) Do your homework!! Look at websites like forumx, gpguia, hotside. There are some terapia spots where guys are paying 250 R for just a HJ! Some spots the girls only do cbjs. Make sure you read as much as possible before you visit so you know what you are getting into.

2) Know your addresses of the plave you want to visit. I went to Rio branco and treze de Maio and shockingly I discovered that THERE ARE NO SIGNS on the doors! I foolishly thought that all the prives and massage places would have a sign on their doors and that is not the case at all. I had to find a lan house to find the sala numbers of each business I wanted to visit. I didn't have the courage to knock on random doors and ask "Are there any big bunda prostitutes in here?" I only went to about 4 places, most had some nice looking young gdps. Unfortunately, I didn't find any big bunda girls that Iliked, but the search continues!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1870875]I went to Rio branco and treze de Maio and shockingly I discovered that THERE ARE NO SIGNS on the doors! I foolishly thought that all the prives and massage places would have a sign on their doors and that is not the case at all... Unfortunately, I didn't find any big bunda girls that Iliked, but the search continues!![/QUOTE]
That's right, privées usually have no signs. Often you'll find a doormat with the text "Bem-vindo" or "Welcome" outside the door. If there are no door-bells it's probably not a privê. Don't be afraid to knock on the doors, if the sala numbers are on your privê-list. If a guy in a tie opens just have an excuse ready, e.g you're looking for the dentist Julio da Silva or Liechtensteins consulate.

I think your best bet to find horse-asses would be at the Clinicas which offers massage and HJ/BJ/sex. They are a bit more pricier but often have girls that needs to enter the cabins sideways. Otherwise try Belprazer, Dudas and Empório do Banho. Also a bit pricier but with a wide selection of girls.
[URL]http://www.belprazer.com/equipe/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.dudasmassagem.com/equipe/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/terapeutas/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1870970]That's right, prives usually have no signs. Often you'll find a doormat with the text "Bem-vindo" or "Welcome" outside the door. If there are no door-bells it's probably not a priv. Don't be afraid to knock on the doors, if the sala numbers are on your priv-list. If a guy in a tie opens just have an excuse ready, e.g you're looking for the dentist Julio da Silva or Liechtensteins consulate.

I think your best bet to find horse-asses would be at the Clinicas which offers massage and HJ/BJ/sex. They are a bit more pricier but often have girls that needs to enter the cabins sideways. Otherwise try Belprazer, Dudas and Emprio do Banho. Also a bit pricier but with a wide selection of girls.
[URL]http://www.belprazer.com/equipe/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.dudasmassagem.com/equipe/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/terapeutas/[/URL][/QUOTE]Good eye Sperto! Over the years, as I have walked by, in and around Rio Branco 156 and 185, 13 de Maio, etc, sometimes you see a cute garotinha walking or in the elevator and just wonder, hmm? Well, every once in a while, because of curiosity, as I walked behind them while admiring their bunda, I have noticed they do end up entering an escritorio with a door-bell. I have taken note of the suite or office number, then did some research in the forums, and bingo, confirmed! Call me crazy, but this form of connecting the dots, is part of the fun.

That being said, its not within me to just start checking out all of the salas which have doorbells. However, if anyone out there decides to participate in this activity, please follow SPerto's suggestion, and have some sort of an excuse prepared once you realize it is not a prive.

Maybe I better clarify. "Don't be afraid to knock on the doors, if the sala numbers are on your privê-list." Please, don't knock on any doors or ring the bells unless you have read/heard that the sala holds a privê. Discretion in these buildings is very important. Elevatorguys can also be very helpful. They always have 100% control of which salas that have privées. I have a favourite-elevatorguy. He tells me which salas that have new girls and how they look. :)

[QUOTE=Sperto;1871106]Maybe I better clarify. "Don't be afraid to knock on the doors, if the sala numbers are on your priv-list." Please, don't knock on any doors or ring the bells unless you have read/heard that the sala holds a priv. Discretion in these buildings is very important. Elevatorguys can also be very helpful. They always have 100% control of which salas that have prives. I have a favourite-elevatorguy. He tells me which salas that have new girls and how they look. :)[/QUOTE]Over many years, multiple times per year and for stays extending over months I have visited Brazil, particularly Rio. One thing I have noticed are guys who live there with negative attitudes (you can see it in their posts here) or guys who visit and look at Brazil and its people as third-world (again, see their posts).

Brazil has problems and some of them can be very frustrating and cause you to shake your head, but if your objective is to meet women (the stated purpose of this forum) it is best done by checking your attitudes at immigration. Treat people with respect and greet them with a smile. A lot of guys I see might as well be wearing hoodies and t-shirts that say we don't give a shit about you, we are just here to have sex with your women.

Doormen, elevator guys, waiters and taxi drivers all can be great sources of information and helpful if treated like they matter. Actually, I try to treat people like this in general, except, of course, for the guys with the I own the world attitudes.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1871115]Over many years, multiple times per year and for stays extending over months I have visited Brazil, particularly Rio. One thing I have noticed are guys who live there with negative attitudes (you can see it in their posts here) or guys who visit and look at Brazil and its people as third-world (again, see their posts).

Brazil has problems and some of them can be very frustrating and cause you to shake your head, but if your objective is to meet women (the stated purpose of this forum) it is best done by checking your attitudes at immigration. Treat people with respect and greet them with a smile. A lot of guys I see might as well be wearing hoodies and t-shirts that say we don't give a shit about you, we are just here to have sex with your women.

Doormen, elevator guys, waiters and taxi drivers all can be great sources of information and helpful if treated like they matter. Actually, I try to treat people like this in general, except, of course, for the guys with the I own the world attitudes.[/QUOTE]I agree wholeheartedly.

I give each doorman in the building I stay in in Copa 50 reais each when I arrive and tell them I'm happy they are still here.

I give them an aqua coco when I shop for 8/10 bottles at a time or a water etc. As a result, they would hook me up with football tickets, always know my first name, let anyone up I wanted no questions asked and in general be v helpful.

I do the same with the ladies who clean the terma rooms and who manage the time. This always pays off. To the sweet waitress, to the garcon who always hooks me up with good food quick, to my favorite kiosk.

Where ever someone tries, reward them. In Brazil people make peanuts so even a 10 or a 20 reais can help out.

I once foolishly agreed to bring a pair of nice boots for a patricinha I met online-they were 40 £ in UK and 15 times more in Rio.

She never bothered to collect them so I gave them to one of the homeless kids who sleeps next to my entrance and told him to go sell them in Ipanema. He made a nice profit and came runnin over to thank me next time I came back to Rio.

They always look out for you.

In Brazil you need as many friends as possible.

Give that GDP who put in crazy work and did great a nice tip to take home and shell work that bit harder to keep you as client-will let you get away with stuff the regular dudes can't. Fill in the blanks.

Bb sex, CIM w swallow etc.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1871115]Over many years, multiple times per year and for stays extending over months I have visited Brazil, particularly Rio. One thing I have noticed are guys who live there with negative attitudes (you can see it in their posts here) or guys who visit and look at Brazil and its people as third-world (again, see their posts).

Brazil has problems and some of them can be very frustrating and cause you to shake your head, but if your objective is to meet women (the stated purpose of this forum) it is best done by checking your attitudes at immigration. Treat people with respect and greet them with a smile. A lot of guys I see might as well be wearing hoodies and t-shirts that say we don't give a shit about you, we are just here to have sex with your women.

Doormen, elevator guys, waiters and taxi drivers all can be great sources of information and helpful if treated like they matter. Actually, I try to treat people like this in general, except, of course, for the guys with the I own the world attitudes.[/QUOTE]Very well said. I take the same view on any where I visit in the world. Be nice to folk, always say Hello, or good morning, its amazing the reactions you get and even more so when you try your best and say it in the local language (OK it might not sound that great but they appreciate the effort). Manners cost nothing.

I have been hearing about this place for some time. GDPs, taxistas and apartment staff have invited me to go but I have yet to go due to distance and safety. I believe it is a bar / restaurant / club with events and live music. I hear there a plenty of GDPs and normal girls sounds worth checking out. Does anyone have intel on this place.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1872059]I have been hearing about this place for some time. GDPs, taxistas and apartment staff have invited me to go but I have yet to go due to distance and safety. I believe it is a bar / restaurant / club with events and live music. I hear there a plenty of GDPs and normal girls sounds worth checking out. Does anyone have intel on this place.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE][URL]http://reidobacalhaurp.com.br/choperia/[/URL]

It is in Duque de Caxias.

Seems to be another large club like the now closed Via Show.

I have spent quite a bit of time in the North Zone and it is an area even Brazilians who live there venture cautiously. If a situation erupts, the acquaintances who brought you there won't help you. I have been the only gringo at Favela Baile Funk parties invited by the hosts and after a few beers (and who knows what else) a few of the locals became vocal about a gringo being an observer to the girls' twerking rituals. Rio can be a powder keg. Not a whole lot has changed since this article from 2012.

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-17657122[/URL]

Clubs get overcrowded and escape routes can be limited. Personally, there are better options for a relaxing night out that do not involve venturing into the North Zone.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1872059]I have been hearing about this place for some time. GDPs, taxistas and apartment staff have invited me to go but I have yet to go due to distance and safety. I believe it is a bar / restaurant / club with events and live music. I hear there a plenty of GDPs and normal girls sounds worth checking out. Does anyone have intel on this place.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Its a really hopping club, I've been twice this past week. Alot of young good looking females and great music. As far as GDPS go, they might be there but you won't be able to tell them apart from the rest of the females. Its just a regular club, they arent there looking to land a client for the evening.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1872059]I have been hearing about this place for some time. GDPs, taxistas and apartment staff have invited me to go but I have yet to go due to distance and safety. I believe it is a bar / restaurant / club with events and live music. I hear there a plenty of GDPs and normal girls sounds worth checking out. Does anyone have intel on this place.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I've heard good things about Rei do Bacalhau, but I never went there. The regular girls in Duque de Caxias are normally easy to score so I guess it's worthwhile to check it out.

I got a PM asking if the girls in the privées always charge the same? I couldn't answer the PM because his inbox was full (B you should empty it). I found the question interesting so I answer it here. Normally in the privées the girls charge the same. What can be different are the extra charges like anal and maybe CIM.

There are exceptions, where the girls actually can charge different. Those exceptions are the clinicas/therapias. Those are a kind of privées that offers a basic service of massage and a relax/hj. Everything extra like BJ, BBBJ, CIM, penetration, anal etc are to be negotiated with the massagista. These clinicas/therapias often have some very nice girls. Personally I try to avoid the clinicas, because it becomes quite pricey when you want extras like BJ and penetration. I have no interest in the massage part.

The clinicas/therapias are often very neat, trying their best to look respectable. They have cheap Asian decorations, ornamented waterfalls, incenses, soft music and real massage tables. Their girls are not wh*res, they are terapeutas. Personally I find this set-up just to be a way of overcharging.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1872423]I got a PM asking if the girls in the prives always charge the same? I couldn't answer the PM because his inbox was full (B you should empty it). I found the question interesting so I answer it here. Normally in the prives the girls charge the same. What can be different are the extra charges like anal and maybe CIM.

There are exceptions, where the girls actually can charge different. Those exceptions are the clinicas/therapias. Those are a kind of prives that offers a basic service of massage and a relax/hj. Everything extra like BJ, BBBJ, CIM, penetration, anal etc are to be negotiated with the massagista. These clinicas/therapias often have some very nice girls. Personally I try to avoid the clinicas, because it becomes quite pricey when you want extras like BJ and penetration. I have no interest in the massage part.

The clinicas/therapias are often very neat, trying their best to look respectable. They have cheap Asian decorations, ornamented waterfalls, incenses, soft music and real massage tables. Their girls are not wh*res, they are terapeutas. Personally I find this set-up just to be a way of overcharging.[/QUOTE]I have actually had a couple of PMs over the years from the Rio the Jan forum about legit places which truly focus on massages by professional terapeutas. I have only had massages on the beach, not at the clinicas. Can anyone give or suggest places that actually focus on a variety of styles / techniques, legit services?

I am flying back to the states next week. What cheap hotel is closest to the airport? I am flying on a buddy pass so I have to check in 5 hours before my 9 PM flight. Once I check in, I can leave the airport and then come back for 8 PM. I want to go to a hotel and enjoy my last 2-3 hours of sex with my favorita before I have to leave.

A bit strange, I saw a post asking about privées in Campo Grande. About the time I answered the post, the post was gone/deleted...?
Anyway, puteiros in Campo Grande, there are at least two clubs. West Night Club and Buena Vista Night Club. Both have good reputations but I havn't been to neither. It would be great to have some reports from these clubs. Zona Oeste is off the beaten track.

Hi everyone,

Thanks to all contributors to the thread! It's been extremely informative, especially as a first timer to Brazil. Much appreciated!

I was wondering if anyone had something to add about girls willing to travel. Do any of you have general advice to offer? Or specific info on girls, the usual rates, or sites for finding travel companions? Reviews, maybe? I'm visiting Sao Paulo, Rio, and Campinas in July, and I'm thinking of visiting the north.

Thanks in advance,

ATH

Hi all,

I have been to Brazil six times before but stayed in Sao Paulo and Floripa.

I am planning at least 10 days in Rio.

Info required is:

Best and economical place to stay.

Trip is for mongering.

Best termas, clinicas and clubs.

Safety issues of independent girls.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Safado69;1872059]I have been hearing about this place for some time. GDPs, taxistas and apartment staff have invited me to go but I have yet to go due to distance and safety. I believe it is a bar / restaurant / club with events and live music. I hear there a plenty of GDPs and normal girls sounds worth checking out. Does anyone have intel on this place.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]This is a great club. I had an awesome time and did not have any trouble with the locals. I did not encounter any GDPs.

[QUOTE=Descartes9;1873618]Hi all,

I have been to Brazil six times before but stayed in Sao Paulo and Floripa.

I am planning at least 10 days in Rio.

Info required is:

Best and economical place to stay.

Trip is for mongering.

Best termas, clinicas and clubs.

Safety issues of independent girls.

Cheers![/QUOTE]All those trips and never left any report, just a lot of posts asking for information.

Exhibit A: Shamester, who contributes regularly to the forum asked about a Visa Service.

Exhibit B: Descartes9, who claims to have made multiple trips to various venues has contributed nothing. A leech, who is too lazy to even read the forum and wants us to just answer his research questions.

Guess which one is getting soup?

The success of a forum like this one depends upon givers. When there are only takers, the givers stop posting or start exchanging information via private messages.

GDP's? Tried to figure out what this meant.

[QUOTE=Tonyels;1873819]This is a great club. I had an awesome time and did not have any trouble with the locals. I did not encounter any GDPs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Descartes9;1873618]Hi all,

I have been to Brazil six times before but stayed in Sao Paulo and Floripa.

I am planning at least 10 days in Rio.

Info required is:

Best and economical place to stay.

Trip is for mongering.

Best termas, clinicas and clubs.

Safety issues of independent girls.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I recommend the Copacabana Palace. Great prices and it's girl friendly. As far as termas go, make sure you go to Luomo. It's the best terma in Rio. I was just there last week.

[QUOTE=Descartes9;1873618]Hi all,

I have been to Brazil six times before but stayed in Sao Paulo and Floripa.

I am planning at least 10 days in Rio.

Info required is:

Best and economical place to stay.

Trip is for mongering.

Best termas, clinicas and clubs.

Safety issues of independent girls.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Hey go straight to HELP on Avenida Atlantica with your luggage. Theyll hold it in the cloak room.

Keep safe in your room wide open cause independents are always trustworthy and try Termas 65 when you're in centro.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1874007]Hey go straight to HELP on Avenida Atlantica with your luggage. Theyll hold it in the cloak room.

Keep safe in your room wide open cause independents are always trustworthy and try Termas 65 when you're in centro.[/QUOTE]LOL man you guys are harsh but I get where why'all coming from, reading the forums helps a lot everything is right there and more when you read. FuckAfMedDig LMFAO.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1874007]Hey go straight to HELP on Avenida Atlantica with your luggage. Theyll hold it in the cloak room.

Keep safe in your room wide open cause independents are always trustworthy and try Termas 65 when you're in centro.[/QUOTE]Yeah, L'uomo is pretty good too!

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1873993]GDP's? Tried to figure out what this meant.[/QUOTE]Garotas de Programa.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1873962]Exhibit A: Shamester, who contributes regularly to the forum asked about a Visa Service.

Exhibit B: Descartes9, who claims to have made multiple trips to various venues has contributed nothing. A leech, who is too lazy to even read the forum and wants us to just answer his research questions.

Guess which one is getting soup?

The success of a forum like this one depends upon givers. When there are only takers, the givers stop posting or start exchanging information via private messages.[/QUOTE]I think asking info about a Rio has offended many people.

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I have only been to Floripa and Sao Paulo.

In Sao Paulo you get complete info from one senior member.

After banging more than 50 Brazilian girls, I prefer not to write TD because there was nothing new to write about them.

Biggest problem is language, the Day I find a new talent will definitely share in the group.

I have read the posts in Rio Forum, but it doesn't give a clear picture like Sao paulo.

Anyways I have enough info already, if anything new in Rio. Will write TD or review about the place.

Cheers!

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[QUOTE=ExumaStealth;1874009]LOL man you guys are harsh but I get where why'all coming from, reading the forums helps a lot everything is right there and more when you read. FuckAfMedDig LMFAO.[/QUOTE]The guy is a leech. He's been a member since July 2012 but never posted any field reports, mostly questions about where to go and who to fuck, with the occasional one line comment that he went somewhere and did someone. Hopefully he realizes why he's getting the responses he is getting and is not stupid enough to follow all the "advice" he's been given.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1874076]The guy is a leech. He's been a member since July 2012 but never posted any field reports, mostly questions about where to go and who to fuck, with the occasional one line comment that he went somewhere and did someone. Hopefully he realizes why he's getting the responses he is getting and is not stupid enough to follow all the "advice" he's been given.[/QUOTE]I agree. Just observing other people's posts is parasitic. There are many types of posts that are helpful. Not only the basic who to fuck and a rating but also how to go about dealing with them because that in the long run will be crucial. Everyone can bang copious amounts of gdps in Rio.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1874003]I recommend the Copacabana Palace. Great prices and it's girl friendly. As far as termas go, make sure you go to Luomo. It's the best terma in Rio. I was just there last week.[/QUOTE]THANKS for the laugh!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1874159]I agree. Just observing other people's posts is parasitic.Snip. [/QUOTE]He's lucky he wasn't given the following advice given to another leech: "Might I suggest you ask a taxi to take you to: Vidigal, Vila Cruzeiro or Complexo de Alemo. Once there, just say to any of the friendly locals: Eu estou aqui para foder suas mulheres. I am sure you will have more than you can handle in no time. And, cheap. They love gringos in those areas. ".

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1874299]Eu estou aqui para foder suas mulheres. ".[/QUOTE]Great line and I'll be sure to use it. But wouldn't it be "as suas mulheres"? Grammar pedants want to know.

This response is probably a bit to late, but a quick check on [URL]www.trivago.com[/URL] with a selection (Rio de Janeiro) and from the left-hand side (Aeroporto Intl.) will give you a list of Hotels and MOTELS (kkkk), with your desirable prices, distances and mileages and from the airport.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1872774]I am flying back to the states next week. What cheap hotel is closest to the airport? I am flying on a buddy pass so I have to check in 5 hours before my 9 PM flight. Once I check in, I can leave the airport and then come back for 8 PM. I want to go to a hotel and enjoy my last 2-3 hours of sex with my favorita before I have to leave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;1874383]This response is probably a bit to late, but a quick check on [URL]www.trivago.com[/URL] with a selection (Rio de Janeiro) and from the left-hand side (Aeroporto Intl.) will give you a list of Hotels and MOTELS (kkkk), with your desirable prices, distances and mileages and from the airport.[/QUOTE]Why on earth go to a hotel for 2/3 hours? I mean even GF ones like IBIS in centro would set you back 300 reais. Motel would be 100 or less for 4-6 hours. Take your pick. There are 100's.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1874307]Great line and I'll be sure to use it. But wouldn't it be "as suas mulheres"? Grammar pedants want to know.[/QUOTE]I doubt the residents of Vidigal, Vila Cruzeiro or Complexo de Alemo would give a shit.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1874453]I doubt the residents of Vidigal, Vila Cruzeiro or Complexo de Alemo would give a shit.[/QUOTE]No doubt. Usage is strictly for amusement.

I found a former flame on Facebook and send her a message. After a few initial remarks I mentioned my upcoming trip and asked where she worked so I could see her.

She says she had been out the game for a while, "Mas pra você abro uma excessão".

Love Brasil and the brasilieras.

[QUOTE=Junior;1874784]I found a former flame on Facebook and send her a message. After a few initial remarks I mentioned my upcoming trip and asked where she worked so I could see her.

She says she had been out the game for a while, "Mas pra voc abro uma excesso".

Love Brasil and the brasilieras.[/QUOTE]I don't think they ever really leave unless they really subir na vida. And get settled and education etc. Especially if they don't have alot of education, they tend to drift back into it when finances get low.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1874898]I don't think they ever really leave unless they really subir na vida. And get settled and education etc. Especially if they don't have alot of education, they tend to drift back into it when finances get low.[/QUOTE]Very very true. But that is why we love them.

Once they get use to the easy money it is hard to say no, especially if you treat them nice.

[QUOTE=Junior;1874953]Very very true. But that is why we love them.

Once they get use to the easy money it is hard to say no, especially if you treat them nice.[/QUOTE]For sure. Once their debts mount up and they have family responsibilities-yep they back like they never left!.

Also with 5th-7th grade education many of them would at most get 800 reais a month in wages -minimum wage.

If they are popular they can make that in a day in a terma or freelancing-or in 2 days at the most.

For the average GDP they probably make that in 5 days but still 5/6 times minimum wage a month.

Once you've had money its a ***** to go back to being broke.

Of course there are exceptions like Adriana at MC who now owns a house in Zona Norte and a flat in Nova Iguacu and is studying dentistry.

Some have a goal and a get-out target financially-some become puta do sangue. Hoe in the blood.

In relation to the last few posts about former GDP back in the game and costs / work, etc. Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but I have been browsing through Viva Local site, and something that caught my attention were the prices per being posted by various women. Usually, prices are rounded off to 100 R, 150 R (maybe 160 R), 200 R, 250 R etc. , usually rate is in relation to amount of time. Ok, that has usually been the norm. However, now there are ladies advertising rates 120 R, 125 R, 195 R, etc. Now, that's a variation to what usually takes place.

Its similar to how things are priced in the USA to sucker the customer in looking at things as cheaper. For example, pricing something at 9. 99 as opposed to 10.00 bucks. As for gdps using a similar approach, that is interesting. Maybe that is a tell tell sign that the effects of the economy are beginning to spark a bit more of competitive rates. Hopefully, this could be the beginning of things to come as for lowering the rates further to compete, due to the economy.

Hold on to the stock fellas, don't sell. Practice some patience. Lets see what happens in the upcoming months.

I see to be having problems with both GPguia and Forumx the main websites that people use for escorts in Brazil. Are there some better options available now?

[QUOTE=Gfechaser;1875379]I see to be having problems with both GPguia and Forumx the main websites that people use for escorts in Brazil. Are there some better options available now?[/QUOTE]Try [URL]gparena.net[/URL].

[QUOTE=Gfechaser;1875379]I see to be having problems with both GPguia and Forumx the main websites that people use for escorts in Brazil. Are there some better options available now?[/QUOTE]You need to use a proxy server to access gpguia outside Brasil. It is the best of the Brazilian forums.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;1875471]You need to use a proxy server to access gpguia outside Brasil. It is the best of the Brazilian forums.[/QUOTE]Torgoch, we need a secret community for the big naturals. I'm always on the look for those, but they are hard to find. I shed a tear for 19-years old Viviane at Tijuca Tigresas.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=183594&d=1365139148[/URL]
and Céu
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=200560&d=1396333214[/URL]
Both have left the honorable profession.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;1875471]You need to use a proxy server to access gpguia outside Brasil. It is the best of the Brazilian forums.[/QUOTE]I have found a way to get to it from US. Just go to Google and type in gpguia. You should see something like this:

GPGuia. Frum sobre Acompanhantes ndice.

[URL]www.gpguia.net/[/URL] Translate this page.

Click on translate this page and you should get to the site in English.

I have not yet checked this spot out, but one of the girls is a sister of an ex- MC chick (Isabel). Looks promising another option in Copa. Might give it a try end of June when I return. Are $150 an hour.

[URL]http://www.lotustherapy.com.br/equipe.html[/URL]

[URL]https://forumx.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=293&t=10938&start=14[/URL]

I visited Rio as part of my Brazil trip for 3 days, I arrived in the morning at bus station by Luxury Lexi overnight bus bus, took a taki and went to Sheraton Bara.

Day 1 ,

It was a wrong decision to book Sheraton barra I book it in confusion of other Sheraton as it was girl friendly according to to some reports, hotel was ok nothing special spend some time at beach and than at pool, than I checked BarraVIP escorts, and make contact with some girls on whatsapp, I chose LIAH Palad she quoted 600 for 1 HR plus 100 for anal plus taxi, I booked appointment for 6 pm, as I was at pool she called in room and that cancel appointment even at 5. 25 , I replied her messages just 10 min late, she than promised to come at 10 but didn't show up neither replied before 12 am, I than booked another from myhotside she quoted 350 plus taxi, she arrived at hotel but was nothing like her photos send her back by giving taxi money, so no action that day and I went to sleep.

Day 2.

Moved to ibis Copacabana, at 5 pm went to Monte Carlo, there was just 5 to 6 girls nothing special, paid 100 entry and leave Monte Carlo after 1 HR, than I went to Cetaurus but it was closed despite of Saturday, again went to Monte Carlo, there was about 10 -12 girls good one was occupied and didn't liked anyone as closing time of terma which was 1 am that was approaching so I selected a slim girl without any plastic, but session with her was ordinary, she did CBJ and no good service. Paid 610 for 1 HR and some drinks and left.

Day 3 ,

As it was Sunday and all termas closed, so decided to make contacts on myhotside, choose Juliana and she quoted 500 for HR accepted walked to her apartment, but she was nothing like her pictures, so I refused to have session she got angry and demanded 100 for her waste of time, I gave her 50 but she insisted on hundred, I gave her hundred and left.

Than I went to an other apartment she quoted 300 , but she was also not good looking so left before entering her apartment, went back to hotel wait for night to try Barbarella, I went to Barbarella at 10 pm, girls stated to arrive at 11 and at 11 30 about 15 girls was there some were good looking but got occupied by other customers. So left it at 10 am without any girls.

DAY 4,

Took a city tour in morning and it finished at 1 pm took the metro and went to Quatro por Quatro 4×4 Terma, at 2 pm there was about 10 girls, all of them was full of plastic, selected a blonde Cameron Diaz type girl with fake breasts, she was very good and overall very nice experience. Went back to hotel and than leave for airport.

Conclusion.

I didn't find Rio worth visiting for sex only, it was good for beaches and other things. Girls were not attractive and escorts are heavily photoshopped, senior members of Rio forum refused to help. So overall not a good experience at Rio and waste of time and resources, I wold recommend to visit Rio for a day or two for sightseeing only for sex go to Sao Paulo and get services of ABG he is great guy and helps everyone.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1875783]and Cu
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=200560&d=1396333214[/URL]
Both have left the honorable profession.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a body. I am glad she has left the profession or I would probably lose my head over a body like that. Good pull!

[QUOTE=Cheema;1875825]I visited Rio as part of my Brazil trip for 3 days, I arrived in the morning at bus station by Luxury Lexi overnight bus bus, took a taki and went to Sheraton Bara.

Day 1 ,

It was a wrong decision to book Sheraton barra I book it in confusion of other Sheraton as it was girl friendly according to to some reports, hotel was ok nothing special spend some time at beach and than at pool, than I checked BarraVIP escorts, and make contact with some girls on whatsapp, I chose LIAH Palad she quoted 600 for 1 HR plus 100 for anal plus taxi, I booked appointment for 6 pm, as I was at pool she called in room and that cancel appointment even at 5. 25 , I replied her messages just 10 min late, she than promised to come at 10 but didn't show up neither replied before 12 am, I than booked another from myhotside she quoted 350 plus taxi, she arrived at hotel but was nothing like her photos send her back by giving taxi money, so no action that day and I went to sleep.

Day 2.

Moved to ibis Copacabana, at 5 pm went to Monte Carlo, there was just 5 to 6 girls nothing special, paid 100 entry and leave Monte Carlo after 1 HR, than I went to Cetaurus but it was closed despite of Saturday, again went to Monte Carlo, there was about 10 -12 girls good one was occupied and didn't liked anyone as closing time of terma which was 1 am that was approaching so I selected a slim girl without any plastic, but session with her was ordinary, she did CBJ and no good service. Paid 610 for 1 HR and some drinks and left.

Day 3 ,

As it was Sunday and all termas closed, so decided to make contacts on myhotside, choose Juliana and she quoted 500 for HR accepted walked to her apartment, but she was nothing like her pictures, so I refused to have session she got angry and demanded 100 for her waste of time, I gave her 50 but she insisted on hundred, I gave her hundred and left.

Than I went to an other apartment she quoted 300 , but she was also not good looking so left before entering her apartment, went back to hotel wait for night to try Barbarella, I went to Barbarella at 10 pm, girls stated to arrive at 11 and at 11 30 about 15 girls was there some were good looking but got occupied by other customers. So left it at 10 am without any girls.

DAY 4,

Took a city tour in morning and it finished at 1 pm took the metro and went to Quatro por Quatro 44 Terma, at 2 pm there was about 10 girls, all of them was full of plastic, selected a blonde Cameron Diaz type girl with fake breasts, she was very good and overall very nice experience. Went back to hotel and than leave for airport.

Conclusion.

I didn't find Rio worth visiting for sex only, it was good for beaches and other things. Girls were not attractive and escorts are heavily photoshopped, senior members of Rio forum refused to help. So overall not a good experience at Rio and waste of time and resources, I wold recommend to visit Rio for a day or two for sightseeing only for sex go to Sao Paulo and get services of ABG he is great guy and helps everyone.[/QUOTE]Neither Sheraton is really GF for multiple traffic-where you went on day 2-IBIS Copa is.

If you only have 3 days -got to stay where the action is.

Friday would have had mutliple terma possibilities-everyone one of them open from Tier 3,2 to the top ones.

You seemed to complain about the amount of plastic but you went to the most plastic places-MC, Centaurus and 4 X 4-if you wanted more natural ones should have browsed the thread cause there are always naturals to be found.

Rio is great for sex all times of day / night and all times of year.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1875825]I didn't find Rio worth visiting for sex only. Girls were not attractive and senior members of Rio forum refused to help. I would recommend to visit Rio for a day or two for sightseeing only.[/QUOTE]Because this is really, really funny! Hahahahahaha!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1875847]Neither Sheraton is really GF for multiple traffic-where you went on day 2-IBIS Copa is.

If you only have 3 days -got to stay where the action is.

Friday would have had mutliple terma possibilities-everyone one of them open from Tier 3,2 to the top ones.

You seemed to complain about the amount of plastic but you went to the most plastic places-MC, Centaurus and 4 X 4-if you wanted more natural ones should have browsed the thread cause there are always naturals to be found.

Rio is great for sex all times of day / night and all times of year.[/QUOTE]There was not any plastic in Monte Carlo when I visited, Centaurus was closed so don't have an idea, Sheraton Barra was GF as they didn't stop the girl as I had booked for 2 adults, had no idea about ibis Copa as didn't bring any girl their, on Friday I didn't had the idea that MC and Centaurus will be closed on Saturday and Sunday otherwise would have checked them on Friday, I regret to this day that I was not able to see Centaurus which is more of a tourist attraction, for me Rio is not a place for mongering and I also didn't like Brazilian girls much, I was looking for for Brazilian model type girls which I didn't find in Rio, I did find them in Pao Paulo at Bomboa and Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1875802]I have found a way to get to it from US. Just go to Google and type in gpguia. You should see something like this:

GPGuia. Frum sobre Acompanhantes ndice.

[URL]www.gpguia.net/[/URL] Translate this page.

Click on translate this page and you should get to the site in English.[/QUOTE]Works. Thanks. Wish I had know it when I was in Rio last week when I was having trouble getting the website to come up.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1875807]I have not yet checked this spot out, but one of the girls is a sister of an ex- MC chick (Isabel). Looks promising another option in Copa. Might give it a try end of June when I return. Are $150 an hour.

[URL]http://www.lotustherapy.com.br/equipe.html[/URL]

[URL]https://forumx.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=293&t=10938&start=14[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw that website last week while I was in Rio. As a matter of fact, Vick was the one that I wanted. Her body looks fucking amazing! Unfortunately, I thought that place is just an expensive HJ spot, so I never went. I didnt findout until I got back to america, that it was only 200 reais for everything, so I missed my chance to sample that incredible body!

[QUOTE=Cheema;1875825]I visited Rio as part of my Brazil trip for 3 days, I arrived in the morning at bus station by Luxury Lexi overnight bus bus, took a taki and went to Sheraton Bara.

Day 1 ,

It was a wrong decision to book Sheraton barra I book it in confusion of other Sheraton as it was girl friendly according to to some reports, hotel was ok nothing special spend some time at beach and than at pool, than I checked BarraVIP escorts, and make contact with some girls on whatsapp, I chose LIAH Palad she quoted 600 for 1 HR plus 100 for anal plus taxi, I booked appointment for 6 pm, as I was at pool she called in room and that cancel appointment even at 5. 25 , I replied her messages just 10 min late, she than promised to come at 10 but didn't show up neither replied before 12 am, I than booked another from myhotside she quoted 350 plus taxi, she arrived at hotel but was nothing like her photos send her back by giving taxi money, so no action that day and I went to sleep.

Day 2.

Moved to ibis Copacabana, at 5 pm went to Monte Carlo, there was just 5 to 6 girls nothing special, paid 100 entry and leave Monte Carlo after 1 HR, than I went to Cetaurus but it was closed despite of Saturday, again went to Monte Carlo, there was about 10 -12 girls good one was occupied and didn't liked anyone as closing time of terma which was 1 am that was approaching so I selected a slim girl without any plastic, but session with her was ordinary, she did CBJ and no good service. Paid 610 for 1 HR and some drinks and left..[/QUOTE]Can I ask who was the Hotside girl on Day 1 that looked nothing like her pics?

Am heading to Rio in 10 days & was thinking of hitting up a couple of Hotside girls.

Also what's the going rate at 4 x 4 these days, hoping for a dupla.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1875825]I visited Rio as part of my Brazil trip for 3 days, I arrived in the morning at bus station by Luxury Lexi overnight bus bus, took a taki and went to Sheraton Bara.
Conclusion.

I didn't find Rio worth visiting for sex only, it was good for beaches and other things. Girls were not attractive and escorts are heavily photoshopped, senior members of Rio forum refused to help. So overall not a good experience at Rio and waste of time and resources, I wold recommend to visit Rio for a day or two for sightseeing only for sex go to Sao Paulo and get services of ABG he is great guy and helps everyone.[/QUOTE]You visit the number one city in the world for women who actually enjoy sex and come up empty.

If you owned a funeral home, no one would die!

[QUOTE=TheCane;1875849]Because this is really, really funny! Hahahahahaha![/QUOTE]Its my personal experience which I get in Rio, you have the right to differ but don't call it a joke as I am writing my recent personal experience.

[QUOTE=Andro69;1876060]Can I ask who was the Hotside girl on Day 1 that looked nothing like her pics?

Am heading to Rio in 10 days & was thinking of hitting up a couple of Hotside girls.

Also what's the going rate at 4 x 4 these days, hoping for a dupla.[/QUOTE]The girl from hot side was Augusta pailista and next day was Juliana manchihi, I sesioned before 4 pm for 1 HR so I was charged 380 reals.

I was wondering if folks could offer best options for mongering on Sundays in Rio. Aren't most thermas closed on Sundays? Centro-based casas?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1876272]I was wondering if folks could offer best options for mongering on Sundays in Rio. Aren't most thermas closed on Sundays? Centro-based casas?

Thanks![/QUOTE]So, you need to find you one!

Actually, you need to find more than one.

Nothing better than bringing a gringo home who dresses up well and speaks Portuguese.

Your best bet for Sundays is to get some numbers during your weekly adventures. Offer a day at the beach or lunch and not just bang bang. During the week your temporary love is working at the mall, call center, in an office so her family expects her home on Sunday (Saturday is often a work day). If she isn't then she might be visiting a friend. Hello, friend.

Being in tune with the need to create this illusion is key to having some Sunday fun. Taking her away from her family often requires more than money. Be aware of her home life situation and be flexible.

One of things that seems to shock a lot of guys new to Rio, is many of the girls have girlfriends. Some know what they do to pay the rent, others don't. The jackpot is when she feels comfortable enough with you to invite her girlfriend to join in.

The longer your stay, the easier a lot of this becomes.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1876272]I was wondering if folks could offer best options for mongering on Sundays in Rio. Aren't most thermas closed on Sundays? Centro-based casas?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Do your best to get phone numbers tonight or call up your GDP contacts from this week to line something up. There is also Mabs.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1876272]I was wondering if folks could offer best options for mongering on Sundays in Rio. Aren't most thermas closed on Sundays? Centro-based casas?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Mongering options in Rio on Sundays are, in my experience, very limited. All the prives and termas are closed, so the only ones left are escorts, Villa Mimosa, and a couple of bars like Florida Bar and perhaps Mosaico late at night. Your best bet is to line up someone from the prives or termas for a Sunday visit if you can.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1876223]The girl from hot side was Augusta pailista and next day was Juliana manchihi, I sesioned before 4 pm for 1 HR so I was charged 380 reals.[/QUOTE]They must have just recently raised the price because in early April it was still 340 for an hour. The spread between the cost for an hour there compared to the prives and lower tier termas like Terma 31 (reais 130-200) is getting ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1876091]Its my personal experience which I get in Rio, you have the right to differ but don't call it a joke as I am writing my recent personal experience.[/QUOTE]You are to be commended for recognizing the cost of not sharing your previous experiences and trying to make amends with posts about past visits. However, even without help, reading this forum would have given you sufficient information to plan better and have a more fruitful visit. You would have learned that the prives are where the action is during the weekdays (and also on Saturdays in Copacabana and Tijjuca), so you would have gone there during the day on Friday and Saturday. On Friday evening you would have gone to a terma in Centro (or Centaurus since you wanted to see it), a Copacabana terma or Villa Mimosa and Mosaico on Saturday night, an escort or two on Sunday since there are few other options that day, and then another prive or terma on Monday.

I think if you make another trip to Rio after having done more research on this site (and getting some help from other posters on this site) and [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] and [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and making a more knowledgeable itinerary you will discover why Rio is such a good place to monger.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1876363]Y

I think if you make another trip to Rio after having done more research on this site (and getting some help from other posters on this site) and [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] and [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and making a more knowledgeable itinerary you will discover why Rio is such a good place to monger.[/QUOTE]Okay I will join in the Monday morning quarterback too.

If you were looking for an ABG (Altobomgosto) guide equivalent for Rio or wingman may be you should have asked the forum. Well in advance of your trip.

[QUOTE=Cheema;1875874], for me Rio is not a place for mongering and I also didn't like Brazilian girls much, I was looking for for Brazilian model type girls which I didn't find in Rio, I did find them in Pao Paulo at Bomboa and Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. I whole-heartedly concur that the scene in Rio is quite poor, and frankly nobody else should come here, in order to avoid the disappointing experiences cited above and by others.

Rio's time is gone. ABG welcomes your company in Sao Paulo. Leave Rio behind and leave the board for people to reminisce about Help constantly, with "where is she now" posts.

Thanks.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1876572]Thanks for your report. I whole-heartedly concur that the scene in Rio is quite poor, and frankly nobody else should come here, in order to avoid the disappointing experiences cited above and by others.

Rio's time is gone. ABG welcomes your company in Sao Paulo. Leave Rio behind and leave the board for people to reminisce about Help constantly, with "where is she now" posts.

Thanks.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Rio, it was going strong. Well, there always is Medellin.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZCk7ZRK8k[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1876363]You are to be commended for recognizing the cost of not sharing your previous experiences and trying to make amends with posts about past visits. However, even without help, reading this forum would have given you sufficient information to plan better and have a more fruitful visit. You would have learned that the prives are where the action is during the weekdays (and also on Saturdays in Copacabana and Tijjuca), so you would have gone there during the day on Friday and Saturday. On Friday evening you would have gone to a terma in Centro (or Centaurus since you wanted to see it), a Copacabana terma or Villa Mimosa and Mosaico on Saturday night, an escort or two on Sunday since there are few other options that day, and then another prive or terma on Monday.

I think if you make another trip to Rio after having done more research on this site (and getting some help from other posters on this site) and [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] and [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and making a more knowledgeable itinerary you will discover why Rio is such a good place to monger.[/QUOTE]Thanks for commending me, I joined this forum in 2014 , at that I was new at this forum, was not aware of the importance of writing reports, but I write reports about my all tours in 2015 which was less in 2015 , now I have realized my mistake and have written reports of Bangkok, Jakarta, Dubai, Prague, Berlin, st Petersburg, Warsaw, Frankfurt, and Vienna.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1876610]Last time I was in Rio, it was going strong. Well, there always is Medellin.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZCk7ZRK8k[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks Exec good laugh!

Rio is what you make it. You have to put in the work. It is actually more rewarding.

The Termas are not what they used to be but are still good recruiting grounds and good times can still be had. The Prives and clinicas are too good not to pass up although a bit more pricier than Medellin you cannot beat the Brasiliera sex performance goddesses in Rio. Here is an updated list of a few I scouted in late March- may be helpful to those not in the know. Don't hold me to the prices.

Regards.

Safado.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1876691]Here is an updated list of a few I scouted in late March- may be helpful to those not in the know.[/QUOTE]
The good news is that most of the privées on the list are the most wellknown.
The even better news is that the list doesn't mention any gems.
The bad news is that a few privées on the list are privées that needs a lower profile not to be ruined. The lurkers will ruin them shortly.

I would be more happy if the lazy mongers who doesn't want to share info or do any homework or footwork would only go the the Termas, Dudas, Bel Prazer and U24/Carioca 59/VM. I've learnt my lesson, when finding a really good privê the right thing is to keep it to yourself or just exchange about it by PM.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1876744]The good news is that most of the prives on the list are the most wellknown.
The even better news is that the list doesn't mention any gems.
The bad news is that a few prives on the list are prives that needs a lower profile not to be ruined. The lurkers will ruin them shortly.

I would be more happy if the lazy mongers who doesn't want to share info or do any homework or footwork would only go the the Termas, Dudas, Bel Prazer and U24/Carioca 59/VM. I've learnt my lesson, when finding a really good priv the right thing is to keep it to yourself or just exchange about it by PM.[/QUOTE]Point taken ask Jackson / admin to delete the post.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1876691]Thanks Exec good laugh!

Rio is what you make it. You have to put in the work. It is actually more rewarding.

The Termas are not what they used to be but are still good recruiting grounds and good times can still be had. The Prives and clinicas are too good not to pass up although a bit more pricier than Medellin you cannot beat the Brasiliera sex performance goddesses in Rio. Here is an updated list of a few I scouted in late March- may be helpful to those not in the know. Don't hold me to the prices.

Regards.

Safado.[/QUOTE]This is gold, thanks!

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1876610]Last time I was in Rio, it was going strong. Well, there always is Medellin.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZCk7ZRK8k[/URL][/QUOTE]Hahaha, the first one is really a gem! LMAO for one hour.

Thanks for the laugh ET!

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1876363]I think if you make another trip to Rio after having done more research on this site (and getting some help from other posters on this site) and [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] and [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and making a more knowledgeable itinerary you will discover why Rio is such a good place to monger.[/QUOTE]That would require an understanding of Portuguese. Reading at the very least. Google translate leaves a lot to be desired. He shoulda, coulda, woulda posted during his trip, instead of after. He would have gotten more help when he needed it. Live and Learn.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1876610]Last time I was in Rio, it was going strong. Well, there always is Medellin.[/QUOTE]Medellin?! I'm here now. It sucks, IMHO. CBJ is the norm. Forget about GFE and anal. Sure, the Paias, (some) are more beautiful than Our beloved Cariocas. However, they can't compete with the rare sexuality of the Brazilian babe. Dudes that come here are hitting dating sites to find quality trim. That's not mongering. SMH.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1876691]Thanks Exec good laugh!

Rio is what you make it. You have to put in the work. It is actually more rewarding.

The Termas are not what they used to be but are still good recruiting grounds and good times can still be had. The Prives and clinicas are too good not to pass up although a bit more pricier than Medellin you cannot beat the Brasiliera sex performance goddesses in Rio. Here is an updated list of a few I scouted in late March- may be helpful to those not in the know. Don't hold me to the prices.

Regards.

Safado.[/QUOTE]Thanks, very nice list. Do you have any favorite termas from the list?

[QUOTE=Shamester;1877071]Thanks, very nice list. Do you have any favorite termas from the list?[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

I just stumbled across this site while looking for ways to get in trouble in Colombia, and as a longer term ex-pat in Rio, thought I could add some value to this particular thread.

Over the years, the terma scene in Rio has ebbed and flowed. At the moment, with fewer Brazilians willing and / or able to part with their cash, customer volume is down, and thus girl availability has gone down as.

I realize that standard economic theory would dictate that if demand drops and supply is constant (or even increasing as you'd expect with unemployment blowing up), price should go down. Unfortunately, logic has never been a Brazilian forte.

The only terma at the moment that still has a high volume of girls on offer is 4 x 4. Unfortunately, the quality is a bit hit and miss. If you're into loads of tattoos and huge asses, this is definitely your spot.

Centaurus continues to attract the highest quality girls, but they are very aggressive, and at are $750 entrance (including the 40 minute session) it's quite pricey. If your goal is a girl in the 8-9. 5 range, and price is no issue, Centaurus is a solid bet. The favorite of wealthy locals, Ipanema tourists, and celebrities.

MC in Copa has always catered to tourists mainly. The receptionists tend to speak English, but the service is very hit and miss. Girls can be quite attractive, and it feels a bit cleaner than 4 x 4 simply because it's catering to tourists and charging about are $150 more.

Solarium in Jardim Botanico is great. Nice mix of girls, generally not aggressive, and not that many tourists. Caters to the upper middle class local. A few drinks, chat with a few girls (several speak a bit of English. In my experience, a lot of these girls are university students from either the suburbs or the Tijuca) get your 40 minutes and and you're out for are $500. They've only got 6 or 7 rooms, so if you're there at 8 pm on a Wed or Thurs, you may have to wait a while once you've picked a girl.

I've enjoyed Perola Negra in Barra. It keeps changing between a terma and a swingers club, so check their website before you make that trip. If you're in Barra it's on Av do Pepe 400 ([URL]www.perolanegraclub.com.br[/URL]). Quite attractive women, very few gringos, and priced on par with Solarium and MC.

I've never really enjoyed the lower end places in Centro like MV30, but if you're just looking for value, some of these places are alright.

Enjoy!

I've seen quite a few posts detailing the various sites advertising services, but very little in the way of help for how one might successfully make contact with the girls advertised without at least minimal Portuguese skills. As such, here are a few notes on the various sites available and some simple ways of getting in touch with the ladies on offer.

First some site reviews:

[URL]www.hotside.com.br[/URL] - this higher end independent site has girls running from about 250 to 500/ HR. Of all the independent sites, I've found this one uses less photoshop that the others. Site has an English language option, and details services offered by each girl and if they speak English or not.

[URL]www.espacoterapias.com.br[/URL] - this site is used to advertise a significant number of girls working in the various prives in centro, copa, barra and tijuca (Tijuca and Barra de Tijuca are not be confused, as they are very distinct places). The menu bar at the top has several categories, but the important ones are "Terapeutas" and "Massagistas". Terapeutas generally have some sort of massage course under their belts (although the actual massage can be quite shitty) and quite a few just offer rub and tugs. I would say about 75 - 80% do offer full services, but its difficult to tell from the ad. Massagistas do offer full services (and also shitty massages for the most part). Most of the bigger clinicas in Rio are also advertised on this site.

[URL]www.amantesecia.com.br[/URL] - a lower end site for both clinica / prive girls and independents. There is some cross over between espacoterapias and amantesecia, in that a girl advertising fully clothed with face shots in the former can be found nude without her face on the latter.

[URL]www.barravipsrio.com[/URL] - the girls look amazing, but they are photo shopped to shit. They also charge a premium. Maybe a little more expensive than hot side, but more or less on par.

[URL]www.riosexsite.com[/URL] - this site is weird in that it actively sells memberships. Most the independents advertised here advertise elsewhere, but this site has very glamorous photos. Priced like barravipsrio.

As has been referenced before, if you want to look up a girl's reviews, they can be found on [URL]Forumx.com.br[/URL] and [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] (to access this site you either need to be in Brazil or browsing behind a VPN).

Now, you may notice that certain advertised phone numbers contain 8 digits, while others contain 9. All 9 digit phone numbers are for mobile devices in Rio (also in Sao Paulo). As a result, almost all of the girls advertising with a 9 digit number can be contacted via whapsapp, allowing you to communicate effectively using any translator app. No knowledge of Portuguese required.

As a side note, if you want to inquire if a girl takes it in the ass, the shorthand notation is "voce e completa? Which translates to "are you complete". Complete women take it in the ass. You've got to love Brazil.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1877537]Hey guys,

I just stumbled across this site while looking for ways to get in trouble in Colombia, and as a longer term ex-pat in Rio, thought I could add some value to this particular thread.

Over the years, the terma scene in Rio has ebbed and flowed. At the moment, with fewer Brazilians willing and / or able to part with their cash, customer volume is down, and thus girl availability has gone down as.

I realize that standard economic theory would dictate that if demand drops and supply is constant (or even increasing as you'd expect with unemployment blowing up), price should go down. Unfortunately, logic has never been a Brazilian forte.

The only terma at the moment that still has a high volume of girls on offer is 4 x 4. Unfortunately, the quality is a bit hit and miss. If you're into loads of tattoos and huge asses, this is definitely your spot.

Centaurus continues to attract the highest quality girls, but they are very aggressive, and at are $750 entrance (including the 40 minute session) it's quite pricey. If your goal is a girl in the 8-9. 5 range, and price is no issue, Centaurus is a solid bet. The favorite of wealthy locals, Ipanema tourists, and celebrities.

MC in Copa has always catered to tourists mainly. The receptionists tend to speak English, but the service is very hit and miss. Girls can be quite attractive, and it feels a bit cleaner than 4 x 4 simply because it's catering to tourists and charging about are $150 more.

Solarium in Jardim Botanico is great. Nice mix of girls, generally not aggressive, and not that many tourists. Caters to the upper middle class local. A few drinks, chat with a few girls (several speak a bit of English. In my experience, a lot of these girls are university students from either the suburbs or the Tijuca) get your 40 minutes and and you're out for are $500. They've only got 6 or 7 rooms, so if you're there at 8 pm on a Wed or Thurs, you may have to wait a while once you've picked a girl.

I've enjoyed Perola Negra in Barra. It keeps changing between a terma and a swingers club, so check their website before you make that trip. If you're in Barra it's on Av do Pepe 400 ([URL]www.perolanegraclub.com.br[/URL]). Quite attractive women, very few gringos, and priced on par with Solarium and MC.

I've never really enjoyed the lower end places in Centro like MV30, but if you're just looking for value, some of these places are alright.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]I Have to say Cancun is pretty good and better facilities than MC or Centaurus and cheaper.

I think you can find hotter girls at lower tier termas if you put in the footwork-I think Centaurus girls are super plastic and last time I went not one stunner.

MC has fallen off badly-occasionally youll find a winner there-Solarium is mainly white girls-like Centaurus.

One thing I fail to grasp is why come to Brazil to look for what's in abundance at home-if that's US or Europe. Respectfully. To each his own and performance is a factor but.

I want what's not here in a-Bunda-nce.

Speaking of Help, That museum open yet? I was there about 6 months ago, signage stated it would open April 2016. Construction was suppose to be a 2 yr project IIRC. It's going on 6 yrs now! (Help closed in 2010.).

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1877627]Speaking of Help, That museum open yet? I was there about 6 months ago, signage stated it would open April 2016. Construction was suppose to be a 2 yr project IIRC. It's going on 6 yrs now! (Help closed in 2010.).[/QUOTE]Nope of course not. City of Rio still getting kick backs off the on purpose overbudgetting / underfunding.

Like the collapsed bridge.

I mean no other major world city would allow a prime real estate space big enough for a hotel facing a famous beach with 100,000's of tourists passing by to not be functional in 4-6 months.

Bem vindo do Brasil.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1877569]I've seen quite a few posts detailing the various sites advertising services, but very little in the way of help for how one might successfully make contact with the girls advertised without at least minimal Portuguese skills. As such, here are a few notes on the various sites available and some simple ways of getting in touch with the ladies on offer.

First some site reviews:

[URL]www.hotside.com.br[/URL] - this higher end independent site has girls running from about 250 to 500/ HR. Of all the independent sites, I've found this one uses less photoshop that the others. Site has an English language option, and details services offered by each girl and if they speak English or not..[/QUOTE]Wow! Good update / wrap-up. Way to contribute on your second post! Much appreciated.

No! Made me mad when I was there in April to see its not even close to finish. And they knocked down Help for this. Looked no different than it did 10 years ago. And here in Atlanta they putting up a billion dollar stadium in 3 years.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1877627]Speaking of Help, That museum open yet? I was there about 6 months ago, signage stated it would open April 2016. Construction was suppose to be a 2 yr project IIRC. It's going on 6 yrs now! (Help closed in 2010.).[/QUOTE]

Help closed before 2010.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1877627]Speaking of Help, That museum open yet? I was there about 6 months ago, signage stated it would open April 2016. Construction was suppose to be a 2 yr project IIRC. It's going on 6 yrs now! (Help closed in 2010.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1877752]Help closed before 2010.[/QUOTE]
Wrong, do your homework again. Help closed in January 2010 (the 7:th if I'm not mistaken).

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1877537]Centaurus continues to attract the highest quality girls, but they are very aggressive, and at are $750 entrance (including the 40 minute session)[/QUOTE]I was in Rio few years ago, and just come back from Thailand. Reading the posts, I understand that Centaurus is around 200 USD, and other termas are around 150 USD for very short time.

Comparing to what you can have in Thailand, that's more than double price, even though I admit Brasileiras are sex goddess! Wow! Brasil is super pricey!!

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1877924]I was in Rio few years ago, and just come back from Thailand. Reading the posts, I understand that Centaurus is around 200 USD, and other termas are around 150 USD for very short time.

Comparing to what you can have in Thailand, that's more than double price, even though I admit Brasileiras are sex goddess! Wow! Brasil is super pricey!![/QUOTE]Rio is not a low-budget destination, but at the prives I was paying the equivalent of about USD $60 for one hour. Cheap Charlie's are probably better served in Asia.

Hey guys, I'm bit inclined towards elderly women. Mature Brazilian women between 50 - 65 years of age is what I'm searching for.

Are there any termas, w-house, parlors, freelancer places where I get to meet many such women.

I must admit I'm getting desperate to get laid with mature ladies. Please suggest something. Thanks.

[QUOTE=NamasteParis;1877924]I was in Rio few years ago, and just come back from Thailand. Reading the posts, I understand that Centaurus is around 200 USD, and other termas are around 150 USD for very short time.

Comparing to what you can have in Thailand, that's more than double price, even though I admit Brasileiras are sex goddess! Wow! Brasil is super pricey!![/QUOTE]Those are the Copa and Ipanema termas. Cancun and 4 x4 are about $115 for an hour (including admission, $100 at 4 x4 if session before 6 PM). Tier 2-3 termas like MV 30, Termas 502 and Termas 31 are about $55-75 for an hour. Prives, which are the best deal, are from $35-$60 fro an hour, so Rio is not that expensive, even compared to Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878098]Hey guys, I'm bit inclined towards elderly women. Mature Brazilian women between 50 - 65 years of age is what I'm searching for.

Are there any termas, w-house, parlors, freelancer places where I get to meet many such women.

I must admit I'm getting desperate to get laid with mature ladies. Please suggest something. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I doubt many here have your inclination and would know where to find them. I can't imagine where you could go other than Villa Mimosa and Mabs. Try Brazil dating sites. They should be full of old women looking for love.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878098]Hey guys, I'm bit inclined towards elderly women. Mature Brazilian women between 50 - 65 years of age is what I'm searching for.

Are there any termas, w-house, parlors, freelancer places where I get to meet many such women.

I must admit I'm getting desperate to get laid with mature ladies. Please suggest something. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Interesting question. Made me remember a couple of years back there was a Jonathan (?) nedding info for old and fat street-wh*res in São Paulo. He got some advice but never reported back.

In the privées 40 years is just about the oldest you find. In VM you can find several women in the ages you're looking for. They're not to busy so you can propably get a good deal with them. I've a buddy who also likes mature (and dirt rich) women. He finds them in the regular clubs.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1878107]Interesting question. Made me remember a couple of years back there was a Jonathan (?) nedding info for old and fat street-wh*res in So Paulo. He got some advice but never reported back.

In the prives 40 years is just about the oldest you find. In VM you can find several women in the ages you're looking for. They're not to busy so you can propably get a good deal with them. I've a buddy who also likes mature (and dirt rich) women. He finds them in the regular clubs.[/QUOTE]Villa Mimosa is just so tempting but I simply don't have guts to step in there. Have only seen it virtually, fatty streets hoes in those dark dingy lanes are really inviting.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878098]Hey guys, I'm bit inclined towards elderly women. Mature Brazilian women between 50 - 65 years of age is what I'm searching for.

Are there any termas, w-house, parlors, freelancer places where I get to meet many such women.

I must admit I'm getting desperate to get laid with mature ladies. Please suggest something. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Well you won't find old women in there 50's and 60's at any termas or freelance spots. At the end of the day we are all mongers and when guys are paying for pussy. They usually want a young hot attractive women. If your looking for women in there 50's and 60's, You can find them all over Rio, but you definitely don't need too pay for any women over 50+, anything over 50 years old should be a easy to get and the most you should spend is a nice hot meal. Even in the USA dating women in there 50's are super easy as there stock in the dating game is in the bottom of the barrel. Most guys that are 50+ and have themselves together usually wants a younger women so most 50 years old women that are single are almost lonely as guys there age rarely want them.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878163]Villa Mimosa is just so tempting but I simply don't have guts to step in there. Have only seen it virtually, fatty streets hoes in those dark dingy lanes are really inviting.[/QUOTE]
If you have the guts to f*ck 65 year old women you also have the guts to enter VM. VM is nothing at all to be afraid off.
Have fun.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1878169]If you have the guts to f*ck 65 year old women you also have the guts to enter VM. VM is nothing at all to be afraid off.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]That's so encouraging Sperto, I'll take that chance if you being so confident. Do you know of any pdf guide to VM in this network. I'm sure there must be one.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878098]Hey guys, I'm bit inclined towards elderly women. Mature Brazilian women between 50 - 65 years of age is what I'm searching for.

Are there any termas, w-house, parlors, freelancer places where I get to meet many such women.

I must admit I'm getting desperate to get laid with mature ladies. Please suggest something. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you hang out on any given night at Mabs, there are 2 older women that are usually on the prowl. I don't know their names because I never spoke to them, 1, very short with black hair, always wears black and is quite persistent. The other is a blonde, a little younger, but still over 50. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1877863]Wrong, do your homework again. Help closed in January 2010 (the 7:th if I'm not mistaken).[/QUOTE]Thursday, 6 January 2011: All day auction selling EVERYTING. Items to be picked up, paid for and removed Friday. Last night open was THAT night, the 6th. People said it was like a funeral inside, what few girls there were, were all crying and carrying on.

Friday morning I walked by and the tent, tables, chairs that had been Terraco Atlanitco were gone and there were guys with tape measures measuring the front doors, windows, etc. By Friday afternoon everything was boarded up.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878181]That's so encouraging Sperto, I'll take that chance if you being so confident. Do you know of any pdf guide to VM in this network. I'm sure there must be one.[/QUOTE]Here is some info on VM.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1829073]If you're at VM after midnight, the Metro will be closed. However, it is not necessary to take a taxi back to Centro / Copa. Go to Rua Ceara, make a left and follow the road until you get to a pedestrian overpass to cross Avenida Presidente Vargas. Take the overpass and go down where the two bus stops are and wait for the buses that go to Centro and / or Copa.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1824725]Although I have been to Rio many times, I had always avoided Villa Mimosa due to its mis-reputation for being dangerous and difficult to get to. Based on recent discussion here, and finally realizing where it actually was (I had been close to it every time I took the Metro to Sao Cristovao to go to Massagem Tijuca, and how cheap and easy it was to get there (actually free if you're 65 or older and show ID on the Metro and public buses) I finally went there Saturday night. Took the Metro to Sao Cristovao, exited left over the railroad tracks, took the ramp on the right leading into Rua Francisco Eugenio to the first right turn (Rua Ceara) and then the first left turn (Rua Jardim America. If you are near Hotel Canario, you missed the turn), then walked 500 meters or so to where the people and music were.

The place was jumping, lots of guys and maybe 100 girls I could see. I never felt in any danger and none of the guys hassled me, or even actually acknowledged my presence (except one guy trying to pull me into a bar the next night, presumably to get a commission if I went with a girl, but I was eventually able to waive him off).

The bad news is that the women range from unattractive to ugly to hideous, with maybe 6-8 who are reasonable looking, with a couple of cute ones thrown in. Snip

In summary, don't avoid going here, it is safe and easy to get to, but be aware that very few women here are fuckable by anyone with reasonable standards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Andy7;1878163]Villa Mimosa is just so tempting but I simply don't have guts to step in there. Have only seen it virtually, fatty streets hoes in those dark dingy lanes are really inviting.[/QUOTE]Vila Mimosa have some stunners but you have to be on the look out and be quick on the draw as they get snatched up quick and some only come once or twice and never return.

ID say I see about 3/4 stunners when I go on average.

Attitude can vary from totally uninterested, drugged up, cool or fun. Its a crap shoot but I have met 3 great ones who I carried on seeing outside and 2 more I wish I had! LOL.

Nice and cheap and you can prob bring them to the crib for 200 max. Theyre not used to getting paid much.
-or take em by cab to Motel Malaga and bang out for 3/4 hours for cheap rates in more comfortable surroundings-providing youve bagged a cool one-maybe test drive in VM for 30 mins and if good take em to Malaga for few hours.
Malaga is on the other side of the high road..take a cab.

Thanks at Riofan6 for the correction, seems like it was longer, wanted to get it from someone who was there when it closed.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1878219]Thursday, 6 January 2011: All day auction selling EVERYTING. Items to be picked up, paid for and removed Friday. Last night open was THAT night, the 6th. People said it was like a funeral inside, what few girls there were, were all crying and carrying on.

Friday morning I walked by and the tent, tables, chairs that had been Terraco Atlanitco were gone and there were guys with tape measures measuring the front doors, windows, etc. By Friday afternoon everything was boarded up.[/QUOTE]

I'm looking for a busty, non-fat escort to take on a trip. But this will be my first time in Brazil. So I don't know where to start, and the forum hasn't been of much help on this. Can anyone give me a few pointers? I'll also be in Sao Paulo, if that helps. I posted about this a few weeks ago but you guys ripped into parasite monger and my post went unanswered. Any help would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1878219]Thursday, 6 January 2011: All day auction selling EVERYTING. Items to be picked up, paid for and removed Friday. Last night open was THAT night, the 6th. People said it was like a funeral inside, what few girls there were, were all crying and carrying on.

Friday morning I walked by and the tent, tables, chairs that had been Terraco Atlanitco were gone and there were guys with tape measures measuring the front doors, windows, etc. By Friday afternoon everything was boarded up.[/QUOTE][URL]http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/help-closed-and-rio-moves-on/[/URL]#.

You're just off by one year, no big deal.

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1878269]I'm looking for a busty, non-fat escort to take on a trip. But this will be my first time in Brazil. So I don't know where to start, and the forum hasn't been of much help on this. Can anyone give me a few pointers? I'll also be in Sao Paulo, if that helps. I posted about this a few weeks ago but you guys ripped into parasite monger and my post went unanswered. Any help would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Please PM me for details.

The Rio thread is very much alive, Help and mature GPs.

Let settle the Help closing once for all. The Rio-experts who were there must have all been just dreaming about it.
[QUOTE=Rio6160;1877752]Help closed before 2010.[/QUOTE]
No, Rio6160, Help didn't close before 2010.
[QUOTE=Riofan6;1878219]Thursday, 6 January 2011.[/QUOTE]
No, Riofan6, Help didn't close 2011.
[QUOTE=Sperto;1877863]Help closed in January 2010 (the 7:th if I'm not mistaken).[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've just double-checked my diary and photos taken outside Help. The last evening it was opened was 2016.01.06. The same day at 2PM they auctioned out the furnishings etc. Btw, they charged R$40 entrance before midnight and R$50 after midnight. I didn't enter but I noticed there were few people entering.
If some of the Rio-experts still have any doubts check out O Globo:
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/a-ultima-noite-da-boate-help-3072459[/URL]
[QUOTE=Andy7;1878181]That's so encouraging Sperto, I'll take that chance if you being so confident. Do you know of any pdf guide to VM in this network. I'm sure there must be one.[/QUOTE]
Here are some maps to help you out. In the end of the U-alley there are usually a bunch mature GPs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149294&d=1302444512[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149295&d=1302444580[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=149298&d=1302444744[/URL]
[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1878269]I'm looking for a busty, non-fat escort to take on a trip. But this will be my first time in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
My preference is beautiful slim girls with big natural tits (no kids), aged 18-25. I can tell for sure that those GPs are hard to find in Rio, but they do exist. If you don't mind plastic-tits you have more options. The chance of these girls going on a trip with a first-timer gringo with no knowledge of Portuguese (?) who they don't know at all is propably very small.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1878368]My preference is beautiful slim girls with big natural tits (no kids), aged 18-25. I can tell for sure that those GPs are hard to find in Rio, but they do exist. If you don't mind plastic-tits you have more options. The chance of these girls going on a trip with a first-timer gringo with no knowledge of Portuguese (?) who they don't know at all is propably very small.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sperto. Good to know. That's exactly my preference, too. I guess I can tolerate plastic-tits and I'm a native speaker of Spanish (I'm a white non-gringo). How much would that bump up my chances? Are Spanish speakers somewhat common? If it bumps it up at all, any suggestions?

Where can I find a female midget, that's on my bucket list.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1878681]Where can I find a female midget, that's on my bucket list.[/QUOTE]Actually! I do happen to have a little insight for you based on a previous trip. Her name is Alessandra aka Mini-me. She was a staple of Help back in the day (circa 2009). For my report on her, and a lying down profile pic of her ass, you can search my Handle or. Day 1: Rodeo's most excellent fucking Trip to Rio.

If you ask some GDPs who have been around for awhile, I'm sure you can get an update on her whereabouts. As I note in my report, she may be statutorily a midget (under 4'9" I think), but she wasn't freakishly short like a small pet or anything. And she packed a lot into her small package!

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1878681]Where can I find a female midget, that's on my bucket list.[/QUOTE]Ha. That brings back memories. I saw my first midget in Rio when I was about four years old. I was with my maid in Laranjeiras as she ran errands, and as we rounded a corner he passed us by. Since he was my height, I thought he was another kid with an awesome carnival mask. Adult needing a shave. I was dragged away while yelling after the fast walking midget to tell me where I could get a mask like his.

As for your quest, no idea where the midget colony is located.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1878681]Where can I find a female midget, that's on my bucket list.[/QUOTE]
In Vila Mimosa you can find everything. I had a 36 kg midget there. When I noticed her sitting in a window (her legs on the inside) with great tits (topless) I didn't know she was a midget. We agreed on the price and she jumped down from the window (to the inside) and almost disappeared. Then I understood that she was a midget. It felt awkward to walk together to the casa where we were going to session. It wasn't a memorable session. It was hard to penetrate her doggystyle.

Hi Everybody,

I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;1878955]Hi Everybody,

I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find young white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]You sound almost like a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910][CodeWord910][/url]. You should be considering the United States or Europe, not Latin America.

I also noticed from reading your posting history you never contribute any type of information, but continually are asking questions. You might consider sharing your experiences as well as asking questions.

[QUOTE=Bfsie;1878955]Hi Everybody,

I am planning to go to Latin America (Central and South America) for mongering this summer. Where can I find young white girls (not Hispanic or Black) in Latin America? I would prefer the girl's age between 18 and 20. Thank you very much for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]Plenty of white girls in Brazil and Argentina with many, many of them offering anal (particularly in Brazil). Here are a few snap shots of some "old flames" LOL! The first 7 are all of Brazilians who provided top-notch anal service! Don't know how the Olympic Games in Rio will turn out, but the GDPs of Brazil take the gold in my books! The last 3 shots are of Mexican girls. I found a lot more white-skinned Mexican girls on offer than I thought I would. Very nice and sexy and passionate, but also much, much harder to fuck them in the ass (only butt fucked one Mexican girl during my short trip there, and she was not white).

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1878761]Actually! I do happen to have a little insight for you based on a previous trip. Her name is Alessandra aka Mini-me. She was a staple of Help back in the day (circa 2009).[/QUOTE]I remember that girl. I was amazed that she always had lots of customers at Meia Pataca and Help, usually American customers. She was quite a cute girl and to be a midget I guess she was hot. She was too much of a midget to tempt me.

A member named Ricardo Torres said something about another member- "You almost sound like a pxdxophxxx". No he did not sound like one of those as he was referring to 18-20 year old girls. So using that word to reference anybody is really stupid. Any authorities monitoring a site like this would pick up that word and would draw un-needed attention to this Website. Really stupid remark.

I also found a good number of white-skinned providers in Costa Rica, and have attached some photos here. The last pic is of another Mexican girl who was a terrible butt fuck. So bad in fact that it really "doesn't count", although I did get some of the head in hehehe! But if you want some white chicks in Latin America, I would say go to Brazil, Argentina, and Costa Rica for "availability in numbers" with a strong P4P scene (especially Brazil and Argentina). You might find some in Mexico too. I did. And if you want to enjoy anal sex with them, then you absolutely must go to Brazil! And the other good destination for that would be the FKKs in Germany. Happy hunting. And write a report why don't you? Or post some pics. Pay it forward and give back! Geez!

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1878978]A member named Ricardo Torres said something about another member- "You almost sound like a pxdxophxxx". No he did not sound like one of those as he was referring to 18-20 year old girls. So using that word to reference anybody is really stupid. Any authorities monitoring a site like this would pick up that word and would draw un-needed attention to this Website. Really stupid remark.[/QUOTE]Agree. Really stupid. The moderator should delete his post.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1878971]Plenty of white girls in Brazil and Argentina with many, many of them offering anal (particularly in Brazil). Here are a few snap shots of some "old flames" LOL! The first 7 are all of Brazilians who provided top-notch anal service! Don't know how the Olympic Games in Rio will turn out, but the GDPs of Brazil take the gold in my books! The last 3 shots are of Mexican girls. I found a lot more white-skinned Mexican girls on offer than I thought I would. Very nice and sexy and passionate, but also much, much harder to fuck them in the ass (only butt fucked one Mexican girl during my short trip there, and she was not white).[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your pics and info, The Cane. I wondered your name sounds familiar and you sometimes posted on german FKK clubs thread, which I used to be often on. LOL. Where do I find this type of girls? In the clubs? Or in private houses? Thank you.

PirateMorgan and Jimmy Boy 99, Thank you for your support.

Ricardo Torres, What do you want to know? I have spent over ten years in Netherlands, nine of which in Amsterdam where I screwed at least over 500 girls / women. I will tell you anything you ask.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1876691]Thanks Exec good laugh!

Rio is what you make it. You have to put in the work. It is actually more rewarding.

The Termas are not what they used to be but are still good recruiting grounds and good times can still be had. The Prives and clinicas are too good not to pass up although a bit more pricier than Medellin you cannot beat the Brasiliera sex performance goddesses in Rio. Here is an updated list of a few I scouted in late March- may be helpful to those not in the know. Don't hold me to the prices.

Regards.

Safado.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list, do these prives have on-site facilities or do you have to go to a hotel?
Also, are the prices just for massage or all inclusive?

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1879004]Thanks for the list, do these prives have on-site facilities or do you have to go to a hotel?
Also, are the prices just for massage or all inclusive?[/QUOTE]They all have on-site facilities (although some are pretty spartan, and many of the cheaper ones don't change sheets after every customer). People go there for sex, and the price is for that; massage is theoretically available but why waste time with that when you can fuck for the whole time you are there?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1879009]They all have on-site facilities (although some are pretty spartan, and many of the cheaper ones don't change sheets after every customer). People go there for sex, and the price is for that; massage is theoretically available but why waste time with that when you can fuck for the whole time you are there?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I will check them out and write a report. The reason I wondered about what the price is that these prices are so much lower than those in the termas, so I thuought it coluld be for the time only, and that sex is "extra", like in massage places.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1878982]I also found a good number of white-skinned providers in Costa Rica, and have attached some photos here. The last pic is of another Mexican girl who was a terrible butt fuck. So bad in fact that it really "doesn't count", although I did get some of the head in hehehe! But if you want some white chicks in Latin America, I would say go to Brazil, Argentina, and Costa Rica for "availability in numbers" with a strong P4P scene (especially Brazil and Argentina). You might find some in Mexico too. I did. And if you want to enjoy anal sex with them, then you absolutely must go to Brazil! And the other good destination for that would be the FKKs in Germany. Happy hunting. And write a report why don't you? Or post some pics. Pay it forward and give back! Geez![/QUOTE]She was from Zona Blue! Good Bang! She was a freaky one!

Any chance one or two of our senior members on the ground would update Bubba's Guide? Last update was quite awhile ago. Otherwise, perhaps admin could grant us a Guide thread to collectively update a guide, say, annually? Perhaps by breaking up the sections and members could take lead in updating the section they want (or are in the best position to do).

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1878761]Her name is Alessandra aka Mini-me. She was a staple of Help back in the day (circa 2009). For my report on her, and a lying down profile pic of her ass, you can search my Handle or. Day 1: Rodeo's most excellent fucking Trip to Rio.
If you ask some GDPs who have been around for awhile, I'm sure you can get an update on her whereabouts.[/QUOTE]A friend of hers told me that she had passed. Unknown circumstances.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1878761]Actually! I do happen to have a little insight for you based on a previous trip. Her name is Alessandra aka Mini-me. She was a staple of Help back in the day (circa 2009).[/QUOTE]Making me feel old. I fucked her back in 2002 when I was in school down there and staying in Leblon. My roommate said he didn't want to pay chicks and wanted to get free ones. Needeless to say he went home with a dry dick. I did put him to work as my cameraman though.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1879177]A friend of hers told me that she had passed. Unknown circumstances..[/QUOTE]Whoa. That's heavy! She couldn't have been more than 26/27.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1879177]A friend of hers told me that she had passed. Unknown circumstances.[/QUOTE]Mini Me isn't dead but she has been out of the game for a few years. She has some guy from NJ who sent her back to her family and is supporting her. She used to live in NJ about 10 years ago with her first husband and she told me she never wanted to go back to America, so we will see how patient this guy is with supporting a woman who has no intention of moving to the states.

What does "sem frescuras" mean exactly? I've seen it all over Skokka, CL, and BP.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1878982]I also found a good number of white-skinned providers in Costa Rica, and have attached some photos here. The last pic is of another Mexican girl who was a terrible butt fuck. So bad in fact that it really "doesn't count", although I did get some of the head in hehehe! But if you want some white chicks in Latin America, I would say go to Brazil, Argentina, and Costa Rica for "availability in numbers" with a strong P4P scene (especially Brazil and Argentina). You might find some in Mexico too. I did. And if you want to enjoy anal sex with them, then you absolutely must go to Brazil! And the other good destination for that would be the FKKs in Germany. Happy hunting. And write a report why don't you? Or post some pics. Pay it forward and give back! Geez![/QUOTE]Oh yeah!! LOL man TheCane that Del Rey is still going strong from what I been hearing, they have remodel the Zona Blue and added a nice hotel with suites to it. If you stay there you can get the girls at a discount downstairs.

Kid Cisco.

LOL. Know exactly who you all talking about, she was the only shorty around there, I was always tempted but never pull the trigger. LOL.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1879753]Mini Me isn't dead but she has been out of the game for a few years. She has some guy from NJ who sent her back to her family and is supporting her. She used to live in NJ about 10 years ago with her first husband and she told me she never wanted to go back to America, so we will see how patient this guy is with supporting a woman who has no intention of moving to the states.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1879991]What does "sem frescuras" mean exactly? I've seen it all over Skokka, CL, and BP.[/QUOTE]Means "no restrictions / inhibitions". Generally used to indicated a willingness to take it in the ass or entertain fetishes.

I wrote down a lot of adresses for prives in Copacabana and Centro in case I had to look around, but I had good luck at the first one: Terapia Star, Av Copacabana 542, sala 806. I was presented with 4 girls, of which one I liked somewhat, and one I liked a lot. So I chose her. I forgot her name, maybe Tenja or something similar. The mamasan told me it was 200 for one hour and 150 for a half. "Massage e sexo, but it doesn't include anal, for that you have to ask the lady".

The girl was very nice, beautiful face and body, and friendly as well. 23 years, tanned skin. Exellent service: BBBJ, a little bit kissing, then cowgirl and mish. (I didn't ask about A+ as I came rather quickly.) The BJ was fantastic BTW, both soft and fast. (It really makes a different how good a BJ is, and it does vary a lot.) Afterwords she gave me a massage with oil. The facilities are adequate, bathroom / shower in another room.

So it's still possible to have a nice time in Brazil without paying a fortune. 150 reais is 43 dollars with todays rate of 3. 52. No need to go to those silly termas.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1880619]I had good luck at the first one: Terapia Star, Av Copacabana 542, sala 806. I was presented with 4 girls, of which one I liked somewhat, and one I liked a lot. So I chose her. I forgot her name, maybe Tenja or something similar. The mamasan told me it was 200 for one hour and 150 for a half. "Massage e sexo, but it doesn't include anal, for that you have to ask the lady".
The girl was very nice, beautiful face and body, and friendly as well. 23 years, tanned skin. Exellent service: BBBJ, a little bit kissing, then cowgirl and mish.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it was Tania. At this place: [URL]http://terapiastar.com/[/URL].

Gents,

I was out in Copa last night with a few friends, and we drunkenly stumbled into a new place in Copacabana. On the corner of Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Rua Belfort Roxo (about 3 blocks from Mabs and the old Balcony on Belfort Roxo), there used to be a shitty strip club that charged different rates for buying drinks for girls of questionable attractiveness. The place has been totally renovated and turned into a decent sized dance club. They don't have a name on the awning, so I have no idea what it's called, but last night it was bumping.

Probably 50 girls and 30 men mixed between the bar and the dance floor. It's bigger than Dolce Vita (which is on its death knell with the closure of Balcony), and the girls seemed to be of better quality than what's available at Mabs. For reference, the biggest knock on Mabs from the girls' perspective is that it's not very discreet and there's really nothing for the girls to do while they're waiting to be beckoned. For many of the part-timers and "semi-pro" girls, being in a darker environment where they can dance and have a bit of fun is a major selling point.

So I've been here once, drunk, and it was a great time. Given the small sample size, I can't say whether it's consistently good. However, for the BRL 30 entry fee, if you like to watch or join the girls while they shake their asses (and they most certainly shake), it may be worth popping by. We were there about 1 am and the place was at about 70% capacity. Probably gets going between 11 and 12.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1881529]Gents,

I was out in Copa last night with a few friends, and we drunkenly stumbled into a new place in Copacabana. On the corner of Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Rua Belfort Roxo (about 3 blocks from Mabs and the old Balcony on Belfort Roxo), there used to be a shitty strip club that charged different rates for buying drinks for girls of questionable attractiveness. The place has been totally renovated and turned into a decent sized dance club. They don't have a name on the awning, so I have no idea what it's called, but last night it was bumping.
Snip[/QUOTE]If it is the same place I went to (which it seems to be), the place is called Knight. The owner of Termas 31 told me about this club and dropped me off there to take a look. It was pretty empty when I entered at about 12 AM on a weekday to take a free look; 6 girls and no men that I could see. Asked the guy that was showing me around what the girls charged. He asked a girl how much she charged and she said 300 reais (did not inquire as to how long that was for.) As I had already had 3 or 4 sessions that day, I told her I was out of service and left the club.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1881529]Gents,

I was out in Copa last night with a few friends, and we drunkenly stumbled into a new place in Copacabana. On the corner of Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Rua Belfort Roxo (about 3 blocks from Mabs and the old Balcony on Belfort Roxo), there used to be a shitty strip club that charged different rates for buying drinks for girls of questionable attractiveness. The place has been totally renovated and turned into a decent sized dance club. They don't have a name on the awning, so I have no idea what it's called, but last night it was bumping.

.[/QUOTE]I think that is the place you are talking about, it used to be a strip club. In fact, they still have girls dance on the pole once an hour. Its right next to an abandoned spot that used to be a social club for Ghanians, Perfect location for a new Club Help!

Good to hear, hopefully it can hang till next year.

Gents,

I was out in Copa last night with a few friends, and we drunkenly stumbled into a new place in Copacabana. On the corner of Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Rua Belfort Roxo (about 3 blocks from Mabs and the old Balcony on Belfort Roxo), there used to be a shitty strip club that charged different rates for buying drinks for girls of questionable attractiveness. The place has been totally renovated and turned into a decent sized dance club.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1881694]I think that is the place you are talking about, it used to be a strip club. In fact, they still have girls dance on the pole once an hour. Its right next to an abandoned spot that used to be a social club for Ghanians, Perfect location for a new Club Help![/QUOTE]Jimmy Boy and Bravo,

You're both right, I think. For some reason, I recall seeing the letter "K" lit up somewhere inside. What struck me is that we were enroute to Mabs and one of the K-club (let's go with that for now, until someone get's the name confirmed) waiters / doormen in a shitty tux was passing out flyers and directing a fair number of girls to the club.

Whether its under new management or something, I don't know, but to see Brazilians actively marketing outside of Centro is a good sign.

Jimmy Boy's also nailed the pricing. Girls start asking for 3-400, but can be had for under 250. If you speak no Portuguese, expect to get a quote for 500, which is pretty standard everywhere in Copa, but you shouldn't have to pay anywhere near that.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1881529]Gents,

I was out in Copa last night with a few friends, and we drunkenly stumbled into a new place in Copacabana. On the corner of Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Rua Belfort Roxo (about 3 blocks from Mabs and the old Balcony on Belfort Roxo), there used to be a shitty strip club that charged different rates for buying drinks for girls of questionable attractiveness. The place has been totally renovated and turned into a decent sized dance club. They don't have a name on the awning, so I have no idea what it's called, but last night it was bumping.
[/QUOTE]It's Kalabria Club -- Rua Ronald De Carvalho, 88 -- Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.here.com/directions/mix/mylocation/Kalabria-Club:-22.9649,-43.17554?map=-22.9649,-43.17593,17,normal&fb_locale=pt_BR&x=ep.[/URL]

There are some familiar faces in there dating back to the days of Help who later became staples at Balcony and Dolce Vita. Even the guy that used to be outside of DV with the flyers trying to get you to enter has now since relocated there doing the same for K Club. If you're at MABS during the later hours you'll also see the girl who used to do flyers for the spot a few yards from MABS as she too is hustling up patrons for K Club. The venues change, but the faces remain the same.

There is a new restaurant in the space in which we previously knew as Balcony Bar. I never saw it during the day but walked by late while seeing what the night had to offer. The space is now home to a restaurant & grill named Immaculata. I haven't heard anyone mention it, not even the girls in Copacabana but while online just now, I did see it on TripAdvisor ([URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g303506-d9757852-Reviews-Immaculata-Rio_de_Janeiro_State_of_Rio_de_Janeiro.html[/URL]) and Facebook ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/immaculata1424[/URL].

The FB page shows it as opening from 11:00 hs to 01:00 hs.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1881941]It's Kalabria Club -- Rua Ronald De Carvalho, 88 -- Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.here.com/directions/mix/mylocation/Kalabria-Club:-22.9649,-43.17554?map=-22.9649,-43.17593,17,normal&fb_locale=pt_BR&x=ep.[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Rua Belfort Roxo, 88.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1881941]It's Kalabria Club -- Rua Ronald De Carvalho, 88 -- Copacabana.

[URL]https://maps.here.com/directions/mix/mylocation/Kalabria-Club:-22.9649,-43.17554?map=-22.9649,-43.17593,17,normal&fb_locale=pt_BR&x=ep.[/URL]

There are some familiar faces in there dating back to the days of Help who later became staples at Balcony and Dolce Vita. Even the guy that used to be outside of DV with the flyers trying to get you to enter has now since relocated there doing the same for K Club. If you're at MABS during the later hours you'll also see the girl who used to do flyers for the spot a few yards from MABS as she too is hustling up patrons for K Club. The venues change, but the faces remain the same.[/QUOTE]Dare I ask / say, is this the new (closest to) help? For those of us who appreciated it, I wonder how much influence we would have if we (board members) started pushing the rumor of one place or another being "the new Help!" amongst other mongers and putas we run into?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1882060]Dare I ask / say, is this the new (closest to) help? For those of us who appreciated it, I wonder how much influence we would have if we (board members) started pushing the rumor of one place or another being "the new Help!" amongst other mongers and putas we run into?[/QUOTE]I'd say it's the closest to a dance floor that one may get in regards to the garotas passing their night hours in Copacabana. As much as we miss Help, and as much of a fall off Dolce Vita appeared to be in the years since the main house's closure, it'd be sad to refer to Kalabria as the new Help as it is smaller than DV inside. However, for music, drinks, and dancing in the heart of Copa, it's the one spot to choose from. To hear the music hollowed out when walking near the entrance of DV lets you know. They really been slow the past few times that I have visited. A sad scene it is.

If you don't have anything arranged for afterhours from the termas, massage parlors, an old favorite, or an escort in-call. There is the SW scene and Mabs for the viewing then K Club for the last try.

Just need one club to open and come in strong, it could very well be the new "it spot". I thought Cafe del Mar could have been the one a few years back but they catered to a different crowd. They, too, have come and gone.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1881995]There is a new restaurant in the space in which we previously knew as Balcony Bar. I never saw it during the day but walked by late while seeing what the night had to offer. The space is now home to a restaurant & grill named Immaculata. I haven't heard anyone mention it, not even the girls in Copacabana but while online just now, I did see it on TripAdvisor ([URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g303506-d9757852-Reviews-Immaculata-Rio_de_Janeiro_State_of_Rio_de_Janeiro.html[/URL]) and Facebook ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/immaculata1424[/URL].[/QUOTE]
The place opened around New Year. It's actually old news...
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1820329&viewfull=1#post1820329[/URL]
More exactly it's no news at all as it's not agood place to meet GPS. It's just another restaurant.

Anyone know of any documentaries or close out news stories done on Help? I think it'd be an interesting story to hear from the management, the putas, the mongers / tourists, police and civilian locals.

Okay, I was originally going to only ask about the best Brazilian Steakhouse in Rio (as in Texas de Brazil style, keep bringing out meat to you), but now I've got to ask. What are your top five restaurants to bring a girl (puta or non-puta) that the inkling of an invitation would drop the panties (for civilians). What are the three nicest clubs / lounges that the non-pro, semi-pro, younger crowd hangs out? I remember going to Cero Cero during one trip which had a nice atmosphere, good for people watching. Any others?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1882193]Okay, I was originally going to only ask about the best Brazilian Steakhouse in Rio (as in Texas de Brazil style, keep bringing out meat to you), but now I've got to ask. What are your top five restaurants to bring a girl (puta or non-puta) that the inkling of an invitation would drop the panties (for civilians).[/QUOTE]
If you want to impress putas or papa-gringos, the more expensive the better (but in reality not necessarily meaning that you get better foods or service). That way the girl can take some duck-face selfies and show her friends on Facebook how chique she is. The disadvantage is that it will be expensive and all the other guests will know that the girl is a puta and wrinkle their noses (except some horny husbands who will envy you but thinking that you're an idiot that waste money by casting pearls for the swines).

If you want expensive choose Marius, Porcão, Fogo de Chão, Churrascaria Palace or a regular restaurant like Fasano. A cheaper option would be Outback. Another, even cheaper, but nice option is Shenanigan's Irish Pub.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1882193]Okay, I was originally going to only ask about the best Brazilian Steakhouse in Rio (as in Texas de Brazil style, keep bringing out meat to you), but now I've got to ask. What are your top five restaurants to bring a girl (puta or non-puta) that the inkling of an invitation would drop the panties (for civilians). What are the three nicest clubs / lounges that the non-pro, semi-pro, younger crowd hangs out? I remember going to Cero Cero during one trip which had a nice atmosphere, good for people watching. Any others?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Porcao closed a short while ago. The best Churrascaria (Brazilian style steak house) is Fogo de Chao. Best meat and best scenery. There's a place in Flamengo called Majorica that's got great meat as well. If you want just a single cut, the best high end steak places are Guiseppe Grill in Leblon, Esplanada Grill in Ipanema, or Rubaiyat Rio which is in Jardim Botanico beside the Jockey Club.

Panty droppings restaurants include Sushi Leblon (best sushi in Rio and frequented by celebrities), Gero in Ipanema, Lasai in Humaita (there's one road in Humaita called Visconde de Iraja that's got about 5 great restaurants all in a row), or any of the places on Rua Dias Ferreira, the chique restaurant district in Leblon (Zuka, Brigitte's, and Venga are all pretty good).

For lounges, try Mirroir on the Lagoa, Zero Zero in Gavea, Ovelha Negra in Botafogo, or Mud Bug in Copacabana.

For the hottest girls in the city, go to the Belmonte on Dias Ferreira on Thurs-Sat by about 9. By 11, the place is stacked. None of these places will have pros except maybe MudBug, and if there's nothing there, you're very close to all manner of options in Copa.

For younger, gringo friendly girls, go to Lapa on Friday or Saturday and check out Rio Scenarium, Carioca the Gema or Lapa 40 Graus. All pretty big places with multiple dance / music areas and bars.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1882452]Porcao closed a short while ago.[/QUOTE]
I know Porcâo Flamengo closed a while ago (didn't pay taxes etc according to the Prefeirura people I questioned outside), but I thought Porcâo Ipanema or Barra were still open?
I'm not really a churrascaria fan. My churrascos are mostly done on the rooftops in a favela with friends and lots of cerveja. :)
You're right, Humaitá got several good restaurants.

BackDoorD's reports all seem to be 100% so listen to that guy. Good to have you here, BDD. Thumbs up.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1882510]I know Porco Flamengo closed a while ago.[/QUOTE]Per the Porção website, Barra and Ipanema are being remodeled and will reopen soon. The website still shows the Aterro do Flamengo location, so take this info with a grain of salt. Remember, this is Brazil.

[URL]http://www.porcao.com.br/[/URL]#unidades.

Wingman and I are flying into Rio, then connecting on a domestic flight to Sao Paulo.

Do we need to clear immigration in Rio first, and the go check in again to get the connection or can we connect and clear imm in SP?

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1882576]Wingman and I are flying into Rio, then connecting on a domestic flight to Sao Paulo.

Do we need to clear immigration in Rio first, and the go check in again to get the connection or can we connect and clear imm in SP?[/QUOTE]Yep, you'll clear immigration in Rio as your port of entry into the country. So, you'll have to claim all your luggage and have it scanned or inspected, then re-check it for your onward flight to Sao Paolo. Once in São Paulo, you'll just claim your luggage and be on your way. You won't go through immigration again because you're already in country.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1882576]Wingman and I are flying into Rio, then connecting on a domestic flight to Sao Paulo.

Do we need to clear immigration in Rio first, and the go check in again to get the connection or can we connect and clear imm in SP?[/QUOTE]Best thing is to ask your airline.

ABG.

You would have to clear immigration in Rio exit and then check in to SP. What airlines into Rio?

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1882576]Wingman and I are flying into Rio, then connecting on a domestic flight to Sao Paulo.

Do we need to clear immigration in Rio first, and the go check in again to get the connection or can we connect and clear imm in SP?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1882452]Porcao closed a short while ago. The best Churrascaria (Brazilian style steak house) is Fogo de Chao. Best meat and best scenery. There's a place in Flamengo called Majorica that's got great meat as well. If you want just a single cut, the best high end steak places are Guiseppe Grill in Leblon, Esplanada Grill in Ipanema, or Rubaiyat Rio which is in Jardim Botanico beside the Jockey Club.

Panty droppings restaurants include Sushi Leblon (best sushi in Rio and frequented by celebrities), Gero in Ipanema, Lasai in Humaita (there's one road in Humaita called Visconde de Iraja that's got about 5 great restaurants all in a row), or any of the places on Rua Dias Ferreira, the chique restaurant district in Leblon (Zuka, Brigitte's, and Venga are all pretty good).

For lounges, try Mirroir on the Lagoa, Zero Zero in Gavea, Ovelha Negra in Botafogo, or Mud Bug in Copacabana.

For the hottest girls in the city, go to the Belmonte on Dias Ferreira on Thurs-Sat by about 9. By 11, the place is stacked. None of these places will have pros except maybe MudBug, and if there's nothing there, you're very close to all manner of options in Copa.

For younger, gringo friendly girls, go to Lapa on Friday or Saturday and check out Rio Scenarium, Carioca the Gema or Lapa 40 Graus. All pretty big places with multiple dance / music areas and bars.[/QUOTE]Great list except Majorica in Laranjeiras is not to be recommended IMO. I have tried it several times and meat was chewy and overpriced.

Fogo De Chao in Botafogo is good but meat at Outback's in Botafogo in general I found to be juicy and better.
For Sushi i would say a good option is Sushimar in Laranjeiras-their rodizio is top class and generous and as good as Sushi Leblon-only 4 times cheaper.
For Sushi try Manekineko in Ipanema-i rate that higher than Sushi Leblon.

Made it to VM during the day in early may. Was a Thursday and I arrived early, around 1130 am. 1st time back in 14 years and not much seemed to have changed. Wanted to satisfy my fetishes for pregnant and lactating ladies. After speaking to a few girls in my broken portuguese, I realised that the pregnant thing would be difficult. I did see a less attractive, 30 yo who said she had milk and was about to do a deal when she was happy to demonstrate and just pulled a tit out and pressed it! Not much came out so I deferred for the time being. Was impressed t how brazen some of the ladies were in general. Even met an older lady who spoke English! Anyway, over the next couple of hours I saw 3 ladies. One who was 40 and really skinny and a blanquita. She had that dirty look and quoted 60 reals for haf af hour of oral both ways and anal. I countered 50 and she accepted. She was good in the sack and very wlling to please with DFK etc. Other 2 I had were the semi-lactating 30 yo and a petite but slightly chubby 26 yo black girl who ended up having a pierced pussy. That was a bonus as another fetish. Was surprised how many girls had pierced pussies. Also was introduced to a lady in schoolgirl type outfit who was majorly lactating (again she was happy to demonstrate in the open!) but was too pricey at 75 reals. Another one who said her pussy was pierced got declined for the same reason. Bieng a big guy, going up those spiral staircases was always a struggle, so that put me off going up unless the deal and girl were ideal. Still great value and girls.

DL.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1882606]Yep, you'll clear immigration in Rio as your port of entry into the country. So, you'll have to claim all your luggage and have it scanned or inspected, then re-check it for your onward flight to Sao Paolo.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm only bringing a carry on bag. That should make it easier. This is my 11th trip but first time that I will spend a few days in SP (before going to Rio). .

Thanks.

I recently completed a trip to Rio. As usual a good time can be had if you know where to look. The exchange rate fluctuated between 3. 55 to 3. 47 during this trip. I was getting 3. 57 at a cambio in Copa.

During this trip, I sampled almost each types of puta outlet available. Although I love the termas, the major termas are just getting too high in cost. Not that I can't afford it, but I don't like blowing money like that if there are cheaper alternatives. Plus I like to save money so that I can take more trips.

Anyways, the only terma I hit was 4 x4 (my favorite) and the prices were still the same as my last trip late last year -$320 are for the basic 40 minutes, either $340 are or $400 are for the 60 minutes (not sure which because the sign doesn't specify and I stick to 40 minutes mostly), also does not include the $50 are entrada if you don't get a girl before 6 pm for the promotion deal. 4 x4 wasn't as packed with guys as usual, but there were plenty of garotas. I ended up getting a couple out of there for 40 minutes each.

I hit an old reliable garota named Lara, who is a 25 year old cute brunette, with a fit body, boob job and wears braces. Been seeing her there for the last 3 years or so. She usually stays to herself, but is constantly going up. Those who are into backdoor, she is definitely down. She is definitely good to go if you are at 4 x4. Sorry she doesn't allow photos.

The other was an old 4 x4 vet Vanessa age 28 with long black hair. She was featured in Playboy and had her picture posted on the wall at 4 x4 for a while a few years back. Never did her in the past, but she gained quite a few pounds. Not usually my thing but she was coming on strong, so I went for it. Good hit, did the standard fair (BBBJ, etc), but the cream of the crop was the BBBJTC at the end. Recommended if you don't mind the extra pounds. The total damage was $710 are, which included the entrada and a coulple of drinks (water for me). So basically, at the exchange rate at the time $200.

That was about the extent of my regular terma run. The rest was made up of prives, mini termas, VM, freelancers and my regular babes. The remainder of this trip report will just be a quick rundown of some of the more well known spots I hit, so nothing new to most on here.

As always, everytime I hit Centro, I always peep my head and check out all of the mini termas or clubs as they call them. As everyone who frequents these spot know they are not the best of places as far as cleansiness and quality of garotas, but you can always find a diamond in the rough. The one that usually stand out to me is Vanessa Club 05 on Leandro Martins 03, which is on the other side of Presidente Vargas after you make a left from the Uruguiana metro station. Like all the other ones in the area the prices are as follows: $50 are-15 minutes, $60 are-20, $75 are-30, $85 are-40, $140 are-60. No entrada, but they will try to tack on $5 are for condoms, so make sure to advise if you bring your own. I couple of spots will charge a $10 are to enter, which includes a couple of drinks.

I've hit Vanessa's a few times and to me they seem to have better talent than the others. It's usually packed with Brazilians. Another place that's usually packed is Club 13 on Praa Olavo Bilac 13. It's on a side street off of Rua Buenos Aires between Uruguaina and Rio Branco. There is another spot two doors away Club 15, but the talent there is usaully not good, hence less crowded. I was finally able to hit 13, when there was less of a crowd and the talent was halfway decent. Although I will say I hit one tall gorgeous mulatta babe with a great body named Keila. It was late, so I hit it for the lowest price available before they closed. Again not the best of conditions, considering I have to stand with my shoes on to hit, but can't be beat for $14 bucks and a dime piece, who could compete at any major terma in my opinion.

I hit the regular Centro prives like Duda, Bel Parzer, etc. Unfortunately for me, I usually don't roll out to Centro early enough to catch them fresh, but the talent was decent. Again can't beat the $150 are for 40 minutes.

Made it to VM only once this time, at night as usual. As always, you have to make numerous stolls through the halls to find a good or decent one. In my case, my patience paid off, when I found a nice blonde morena clara named Taty standing outside of a bar in the left hall. Cool chick, hit mostly doggy, while standing as usual, but she laid out a large clean 4 x4 towel on the cama and convinced me to lay down while she rode cowgirl to complete. Not bad for $65 are for 30 minutes.

Hit a few other spots in Centro, but nothing that stood out.

As far as Copa, it's the same old stuff. Mabs was mostly bad. Mostly the same chicks every night. Of course there were a handful of beauties, I even spotted a beauty I did at 4 x4 last year over there. As usual the chicks are mostly going for short time, which could range from as low as $150 are to as high as quoting $800 are from what I heard. I personally don't go out of my way to pick up anything over there. I usually average maybe one babe a trip from Mabs.

Like someone said earlier, Dolce Vita appears to be going downhill since Balcony closed. At least it appears that way from the outside. Casablanca, which is around the corner from DV on Rua Duvivier is still going. But I haven't been able to spark enough interest to check it out. Sensoo on Princess Isabel, which is around the corner from Mabs, have been pretty aggressive, going around trying to get guys into their club lately. Never been inside, but I know it's the same type of clip joint like Franks (closed), Ciccolina and Barbarella.

I went into K-night formerly known as Kalabria (everyone still calls it that) once (second time ever). The cover is $50 are which includes 2 drinks. As stated before, it's more of an after hour club, with mostly the same garotas from Mabs and those that prefer indoor hooking. They also promote banging on the premises downstairs for $50 are. I gave it a shot after finding a nice cutie and negotiating $150 are, since I'm not too crazy about bringing girls back to my apartment, especially from Mabs. I would advise anyone considering this at this place to forget about it. I did it once, years ago at the original Kalabria and the room wasn't bad, but at K nights it was horrible. It was a leather sofa, funky chair and a table with a TV. In other words, somewhere to lounge and watch TV, not made for banging at all. Anyways, despite my disappointment, the girl was cool and pretty good. We made the best of it and got the job done. Lesson learned.

Although the Copa scene is mostly dead during the day and early evening, it's not all a wash. Delerio Massagens (Hilario Gouveia 66,201) and Eden Spa (Av Nossa Sra Copacabana 583,401) are the best deals going over there (IMHO). The prices are about the same as the downtown prives at $140 are for 30 minutes and $200 are for 60 minutes (they charge an extra $25 are if you use a credit card). Although I didn't hit Eden this time, I believe it's the same price as I stated above. I hit Delerio twice and the talent was fairly nice considering I hit it late one day and when it was busy the other. I would recommend Laisa 27 year old mulatta with a nice body and nice natural tits. The best I've had out of that place.

Last time I was there, I was ripped off and paid $250 are for an hour each time, since the guy outside walked us in each time. Thanks to this site I found out the real deal and knew what not to do next this time. Anyways, the Egytian guy is no longer hanging out in front of Delerio, but have moved over to the building where Eden is located. Bottom line is, don't let these guys take you to any spot. The business will charge you an extra $50 are, which is used to pay their commission, unlike the old taxi deal with the terma, which didn't come out of your bill. So beware of this scam. As far as the the other massgae spots in Copa, I wasn't too impressed last time I checked them out, so I didn't even bother this time.

Overall, Rio is still a good deal if you hit the right spots, especially with the current exchange rate. Unfortunately for some, it's not the point and click type of place like it was in the Help, MP and ho beach days. If you are still stuck on the way it was back in the days, you will have a hard time there. Do your research and have a plan. Back in the days, even if you came in blind, you could always run into cool guys you could hang with and check out the different spots. These days there isn't as many old vets going down (at least not in Copa), so you are on your own mostly. Anyways, nothing new in this report, that haven't been said before, just my 2 cents.

Hi ABG,

This is what I was referring to in my PM. You have details?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1878311]Please PM me for details.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1883025]I recently completed a trip to Rio. As usual a good time can be had if you know where to look. The exchange rate fluctuated between 3. 55 to 3. 47 during this trip. I was getting 3. 57 at a cambio in Copa.

During this trip, I sampled almost each types of puta outlet available. Although I love the termas, the major termas are just getting too high in cost. Not that I can't afford it, but I don't like blowing money like that if there are cheaper alternatives. Plus I like to save money so that I can take more trips.

Anyways, the only terma I hit was 4 x4 (my favorite) and the prices were still the same as my last trip late last year -$320 are for the basic 40 minutes, either $340 are or $400 are for the 60 minutes (not sure which because the sign doesn't specify and I stick to 40 minutes mostly), also does not include the $50 are entrada if you don't get a girl before 6 pm for the promotion deal. 4 x4 wasn't as packed with guys as usual, but there were plenty of garotas. I ended up getting a couple out of there for 40 minutes each.

I hit an old reliable garota named Lara, who is a 25 year old cute brunette, with a fit body, boob job and wears braces. Been seeing her there for the last 3 years or so. She usually stays to herself, but is constantly going up. Those who are into backdoor, she is definitely down. She is definitely good to go if you are at 4 x4. Sorry she doesn't allow photos.

The other was an old 4 x4 vet Vanessa age 28 with long black hair. She was featured in Playboy and had her picture posted on the wall at 4 x4 for a while a few years back. Never did her in the past, but she gained quite a few pounds...[/QUOTE]Wow! That was a very candid report; is it really that bad? I'm beginning to be a little afraid for my next trip! Especially, since I'm bringing a first timer and hyped the place up so much! Are we going to be disappointed?

You need to wait till next year (after the Olympics) or better yet till you get the all clear on here.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1883081]Wow! That was a very
candid report; is it really that bad? I'm beginning to be a little afraid for my next trip! Especially, since I'm bringing a first timer and hyped the place up so much! Are we going to be disappointed?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1883025]Overall, Rio is still a good deal if you hit the right spots, especially with the current exchange rate. Unfortunately for some, it's not the point and click type of place like it was in the Help, MP and ho beach days. If you are still stuck on the way it was back in the days, you will have a hard time there. Do your research and have a plan. Back in the days, even if you came in blind, you could always run into cool guys you could hang with and check out the different spots. These days there isn't as many old vets going down (at least not in Copa), so you are on your own mostly. Anyways, nothing new in this report, that haven't been said before, just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Hey,

That is a nice report, Everything sounds the same Like when I went last year. Don't worry guys Brazil will return to the glory days after the Olympics. I think middle 2017 will be the rebirth. Brazil is only getting worst every day. The new acting president.

Is a right winger and wants to cut all social programs to please the rich investment elite Class. Everything is getting gutted, so your going to see a lot of people in the street, hungry GDP everywhere by 2017 mark my words.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1883149]You need to wait till next year (after the Olympics) or better yet till you get the all clear on here.[/QUOTE]Not good, since I'm going FOR the Olympics! I'm still excited though, because if all goes right, I'll be entering on a permanent resident (Retirement) Visa!

Can anyone point me to any Google Earth layer files with points of interest indicated? I was going to make one myself, but thought I'd check with the masses first to see if one was already in existence.

I thought I remembered being pointed to one back in 2009, but I can't remember.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1883151]Hey,

That is a nice report, Everything sounds the same Like when I went last year. Don't worry guys Brazil will return to the glory days after the Olympics. I think middle 2017 will be the rebirth. Brazil is only getting worst every day. The new acting president.

Is a right winger and wants to cut all social programs to please the rich investment elite Class. Everything is getting gutted, so your going to see a lot of people in the street, hungry GDP everywhere by 2017 mark my words.[/QUOTE]Your comments on the Brazilian economy and projections always are so insightful. They literally boggle my mind.

So you were in Rio but we never got any on the ground reports from you.

Are you saving them up for one long post?

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1883025]Last time I was there, I was ripped off and paid $250 are for an hour each time, since the guy outside walked us in each time. Thanks to this site I found out the real deal and knew what not to do next this time. Anyways, the Egytian guy is no longer hanging out in front of Delerio, but have moved over to the building where Eden is located. Bottom line is, don't let these guys take you to any spot. The business will charge you an extra $50 are, which is used to pay their commission, unlike the old taxi deal with the terma, which didn't come out of your bill. So beware of this scam. As far as the the other massgae spots in Copa, I wasn't too impressed last time I checked them out, so I didn't even bother this time.[/QUOTE]I was heading to MC on my last day and the same man was loitering on the corner of Rua Hilrio de Gouvia (beach end). He followed me and pestured me all the way to the entrance.
of MC telling me to say to reception that it was my 1st time and he was bringing me along. Best to ignore him.

[QUOTE]Overall, Rio is still a good deal if you hit the right spots, especially with the current exchange rate. Unfortunately for some, it's not the point and click type of place like it was in the Help, MP and ho beach days. If you are still stuck on the way it was back in the days, you will have a hard time there. Do your research and have a plan. Back in the days, even if you came in blind, you could always run into cool guys you could hang with and check out the different spots. These days there isn't as many old vets going down (at least not in Copa), so you are on your own mostly. Anyways, nothing new in this report, that haven't been said before, just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Ee2002,

Thanks for posting your great reviews. Times change and new opportunities appear elsewhere. With or without Help discoteca Rio will always be unique but it still makes one sentimental for those old times!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1882554]Per the Poro website, Barra and Ipanema are being remodeled and will reopen soon. The website still shows the Aterro do Flamengo location, so take this info with a grain of salt. Remember, this is Brazil.

[URL]http://www.porcao.com.br/[/URL]#unidades.[/QUOTE]The entire franchise was acquired by a Sao Paulo based private equity firm in 2012, and the managed to royally mismanage a cash cow. While the website does say it will reopen, there are active negotiations for another restaurant group to take over the Flamengo location, the mayor's office wants a ridiculous amount of rent, so I don't expect the situation to be resolved anytime soon.

The PE guys attempted to use the cash flow from the big churrascarias to fund a spin off entity called Porcao Gourmet, which offered a more US style steak house experience and no Rodizio. They opened locations in Barra and in the Jockey Club, but they failed miserably dragging down the entire chain. They're currently in the Brazilian version of chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings, so don't hold your breath that they'll reopen any time soon.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1882576]Wingman and I are flying into Rio, then connecting on a domestic flight to Sao Paulo.

Do we need to clear immigration in Rio first, and the go check in again to get the connection or can we connect and clear imm in SP?[/QUOTE]If you're in Sao Paulo with a wingman and out late on a Wednesday-Sunday night, I highly recommend paying a visit to Love Story. Easily my favorite dancing / GP locale in SP. Tends to attract a lot of the working girls who've finished their shifts at the higher end spots and want to party. However, as they aren't at work, you sometimes have to put in moderate effort to close, which can be sort of amusing.

Also gets lots of rich Paulistas who have fantasies about being a working girl for a night or two, which can also be loads of fun. About the most eclectic mix of people you'll ever see in a club: working girls, drug dealers, business men, rich kids, and a few trannies. But a very fun night out, or way to cap a night out. Doesn't actually even start to get going until about 1 am and closes between 8 am and noon the next day depending on how things are going.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1883081]Wow! That was a very candid report; is it really that bad? I'm beginning to be a little afraid for my next trip! Especially, since I'm bringing a first timer and hyped the place up so much! Are we going to be disappointed?[/QUOTE]Rest assured there are no shortage of options in Rio. Also, reports of Rio going to the dogs as a result of economic upheaval are vastly exaggerated. While unemployment is up and petty street crime is on the rise, Rio has never been the safest of places. Use your head; don't walk around late at night in Copa on your own unless there are crowds around, and don't' be too flashy.

From a mongering perspective, while there's no longer a puta's Mecca (Help), the city still draws attractive girls from all over the country looking to make a quick buck, in a myriad of establishments. As a result, your options are still pretty good, and the girls are unparalleled in terms of their eagerness to please and services on offer.

The Olympics will be a lot of fun. While the logistics may be a disaster, and the venues and site concessions well below the standard of previous games, Brazilians throw a good party. And while the initial estimates of 1. 6 million visitors will more likely turn into 600 k-1 m, depending on a variety of factors, that's a lot of people descending on one city. You can expect Mabs and every other spot in Copa to be rammed every night as girls from all over the country try to make some USD / Euros.

You will have a great time as the city will really be hopping.

The World Cup was fun, and I'd expect the Olympics to be much better as the entire event is concentrated in Rio.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1883000]Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm only bringing a carry on bag. That should make it easier. This is my 11th trip but first time that I will spend a few days in SP (before going to Rio). .

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you and your wingman haven't booked your flight to Rio yet, I would recommend flying into Sao Paulo first. This way you can clear customs then get to the action and not have to sit and wait a connecting flight only to have to fly back into Rio. Sounds like it may be a short short stay if you're only taking a carry-on. The time you'd wait for the connection + flight time you can put those hours back into the hobby side of things. Or more so, rest a bit from the flight and be fresh, ready to go. Also, another thing about Sao Paulo is. The earlier your arrival, the better. Traffic is a beast from Guarulhos to the city.

All of the major US carries have direct flights into Sao Paulo:

American: MIA to GRU (2 direct flights) -- DFW to GRU -- JFK to GRU (codeshare, Operated by TAM).

Delta: ATL to GRU -- DTW to GRU -- JFK to GRU -- MCO to GRU.

United: EWR to GRU -- IAD to GRU -- IAH to GRU -- ORD to GRU.

Olympics will include a Sexathlon discipline this year starring 20,000 GDPs with weaves and "I love Gringo $" t-shirts on.

Lucky bastards who are down there for it this time. World Cup was amazing-mad buzz in the city and girls were there in abundance.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884199]Olympics will include a Sexathlon discipline this year starring 20,000 GDPs with weaves and "I love Gringo $" t-shirts on.

Lucky bastards who are down there for it this time. World Cup was amazing-mad buzz in the city and girls were there in abundance.[/QUOTE]Like everything else about the World Cup, I think the expected large influx of GDPs, unless you actually were there like I was, was over hyped.

Yes, there were a few foreign hookers and also an exceptionally large number of Argentines pissing in the streets. All the local businesses who thought they were going to get rich pretty much took it and the FIFA shorts.

Will the Olympics be any different? Who knows? Brazil can't even decide which politician is the most corrupt.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884199]Olympics will include a Sexathlon discipline this year starring 20,000 GDPs with weaves and "I love Gringo $" t-shirts on.

Lucky bastards who are down there for it this time. World Cup was amazing-mad buzz in the city and girls were there in abundance.[/QUOTE]What was the markup during World Cup? For termas, street girls, and massages / prives?

So this might be of interest to some of the more adventurous ones.

I decided to bring a hot 18 yr old ex GDP (1 month in biz) overseas to hang with me for couple weeks. I had met her in Rio a few months back.

Of course she got stopped in immigration (Europe) and held there as she speaks zero Ingles. A call solved that.

Had a few weeks off and there was a roundtrip flight for 750 $ so that was great.

Now we are getting into Patmarbeleza territory of economics. !LOL.

Sex for 4 hours a day or more and as much as you can take. Price: food ,airfare,some souvenirs and drinks. This could run up as well.

ID say the whole thing probably cost me a bit more than what it would to visit a terma once a day including drinks but then i didnt have to pay for accomodation there-

Can be recommended if it is impossible to get down to Rio for a bit of variation!.

Bring Rio home.Was fun.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884326]So this might be of interest to some of the more adventurous ones.

I decided to bring a hot 18 yr old ex GDP (1 month in biz) overseas to hang with me for couple weeks. I had met her in Rio a few months back.

Of course she got stopped in immigration (Europe) and held there as she speaks zero Ingles. A call solved that.

Had a few weeks off and there was a roundtrip flight for 750 $ so that was great.

Now we are getting into Patmarbeleza territory of economics. !LOL.

Sex for 4 hours a day or more and as much as you can take. Price: food ,airfare,some souvenirs and drinks. This could run up as well.

ID say the whole thing probably cost me a bit more than what it would to visit a terma once a day including drinks but then i didnt have to pay for accomodation there-

Can be recommended if it is impossible to get down to Rio for a bit of variation!.

Bring Rio home.Was fun.[/QUOTE]Did the same thing last month. Highly recommended, but hard work -.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884326]So this might be of interest to some of the more adventurous ones.

I decided to bring a hot 18 yr old ex GDP (1 month in biz) overseas to hang with me for couple weeks. I had met her in Rio a few months back.

Of course she got stopped in immigration (Europe) and held there as she speaks zero Ingles. A call solved that.

Had a few weeks off and there was a roundtrip flight for 750 $ so that was great.

Now we are getting into Patmarbeleza territory of economics. !LOL..[/QUOTE]That's a hell of a deal. I went to Solarium last night with a friend to celebrate the close of a transaction and we ended up a bit drunk, in a big room with a couple of girls and a bag of Bolivian marching powder for two hours. While this was undeniably a great time, the economics made absolutely no sense. Are $2,700 between us. The girls were absolutely stunning. Gisele, a short white girl with huge tits and an outrageous ass, and Brenda, a taller morena with one of the nicest bodies I've ever seen. And they were up for anything. Girl on girl, trading up, front door, back door, a game of sexual twister. One of the better orgies in which I've been involved.

Club itself was pretty packed. About 20 girls and 10 guys which is about the capacity of Solarium. Quality of the girls was quite high, although no really dark girls.

If you're going to go the "festinha" route, probably best not to do it in a terma as it can get pretty expensive pretty quickly.

[QUOTE=Junior;1884334]Did the same thing last month. Highly recommended, but hard work -.[/QUOTE]It is hard work. You give them a finger they take the hand and some are quite emotionally needy but always bring that energetic, lively highly sexualized Rio vibe!

This one thinks its BF / GF so that's another angle. She goes back to work tomorrow so so much for her early retirement (after 1 month) -poverty.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1884353]I went to Solarium last night with a friend to celebrate the close of a transaction and we ended up a bit drunk, in a big room with a couple of girls and a bag of Bolivian marching powder for two hours. While this was undeniably a great time, the economics made absolutely no sense. Are $2,700 between us.[/QUOTE]
That must be a new forum record, R$2700. I'm happy my only addiction is p*ssy.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1884353]That's a hell of a deal. I went to Solarium last night with a friend to celebrate the close of a transaction and we ended up a bit drunk, in a big room with a couple of girls and a bag of Bolivian marching powder for two hours. While this was undeniably a great time, the economics made absolutely no sense. Are $2,700 between us. The girls were absolutely stunning. Gisele, a short white girl with huge tits and an outrageous ass, and Brenda, a taller morena with one of the nicest bodies I've ever seen. And they were up for anything. Girl on girl, trading up, front door, back door, a game of sexual twister. One of the better orgies in which I've been involved.

Club itself was pretty packed. About 20 girls and 10 guys which is about the capacity of Solarium. Quality of the girls was quite high, although no really dark girls.

If you're going to go the "festinha" route, probably best not to do it in a terma as it can get pretty expensive pretty quickly.[/QUOTE]It is what it is man-as long as yall had a blast who gives a f&ck. I remember first time in Centaurus for my birthday I ended up buying probably 20 drinks and taking 2 girls up who were BBBJ'ing me from either side and tongue kissing at the same time and everything else. CIM both at same tme. Proper vibe between them in the boate and that clinched it for me.

Very memorable time-came to 1500 I think. I wouldn't do it again but I wouldn't change it for the world. I did one dupla in MC after 15-20 drinks for me / girls. That came to 1400. Only time.

Sometime you got to take an L for the experience alone.

Rio ws originally a giant brothel pretty much and you can definetly live out your fantasies there.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1884394]That must be a new forum record, R$2700. I'm happy my only addiction is p*ssy.[/QUOTE]I concur. For some reason Solarium girls don't do nothing for me. Must be lack of melanin.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884326]So this might be of interest to some of the more adventurous ones.

I decided to bring a hot 18 yr old ex GDP (1 month in biz) overseas to hang with me for couple weeks. I had met her in Rio a few months back.

Of course she got stopped in immigration (Europe) and held there as she speaks zero Ingles. A call solved that.

Had a few weeks off and there was a roundtrip flight for 750 $ so that was great.

Now we are getting into Patmarbeleza territory of economics. !LOL.

Sex for 4 hours a day or more and as much as you can take. Price: food ,airfare,some souvenirs and drinks. This could run up as well.

ID say the whole thing probably cost me a bit more than what it would to visit a terma once a day including drinks but then i didnt have to pay for accomodation there-

Can be recommended if it is impossible to get down to Rio for a bit of variation!.

Bring Rio home.Was fun.[/QUOTE]Why would she get stopped in Europe for not speaking English? Makes absolutely no sense?

I have had Brazilians travel with me to Europe and passed through various immigrations without one problem. Again, makes absolutely no sense.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1884461]Why would she get stopped in Europe for not speaking English? Makes absolutely no sense?

I have had Brazilians travel with me to Europe and passed through various immigrations without one problem. Again, makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]Then you haven't had one come to UK on their own with zero english.

If you had, you would know differently. They are very strict-unlike Spain, Portugal etc- I accompanied one last year but she understands English and could respond enough so they let her through.

This one -no. They called me and after a bit of a convo they let her through.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884422]I concur. For some reason Solarium girls don't do nothing for me. Must be lack of melanin.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to get with the brancas that's fine. But I wish you would stop claiming that there's some kind of "look" in Brazil that you allegedly can't find anywhere else (so why go with what's in ample supply back home blah, blah, blah). I live in an American town where every kind of look possible is available. So, I don't go to Brazil for some look that I can't find here. I go for the "attitude" that I find it too hard to source here in my country. For me, that's what makes the difference. Here are a few shots of three old Solarium "experiences" shall we say. Took both Nicole and Debbie in the butt. Violina didn't do that LOL!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884508]Then you haven't had one come to UK on their own with zero english.

If you had, you would know differently. They are very strict-unlike Spain, Portugal etc- I accompanied one last year but she understands English and could respond enough so they let her through.

This one -no. They called me and after a bit of a convo they let her through.[/QUOTE]For years, I really envied you european guys. You could bring your favorita to your country for a month of sex and then ship them back to Brasil Sounds like Heaven!! If only we had it that easy in America!! Although now, its is much easier for the girls to get tourist visas to America. I had about 4 girls visit me last year. They stayed for a couple of weeks an then moved on to other states. Shockingly they didn't over stay their visas!!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884422]I concur. For some reason Solarium girls don't do nothing for me. Must be lack of melanin.[/QUOTE]In Ancient Times (2000-2004), it was my favorite Termas. Fantastic quality, including Mulatas and Morenas.

It seems they've lost their way since then.

Regarding brazilian girls getting stopped when entering Europe. It never happened to any of my visiting GFs. However it does happens. Usually if the migrations staff suspects that the girl is a prostitute with intentions to work in Europe. Then they can very well refuse her to enter Europe and send her back to Brazil. If the girl is dressed properly, behaves herself and can show some funds (credit cards/cash) there shouldn't be any problem.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1884542]For years, I really envied you european guys. You could bring your favorita to your country for a month of sex and then ship them back to Brasil Sounds like Heaven!! If only we had it that easy in America!! Although now, its is much easier for the girls to get tourist visas to America. I had about 4 girls visit me last year. They stayed for a couple of weeks an then moved on to other states. Shockingly they didn't over stay their visas!![/QUOTE]LOL now that's a surprise. I have had 2 visit me-1 ex GDP who just started in game (but probably will return) and a non-pro. I have to say it is easier to hang in Brazil where you don't have to be tour guide and they are not totally dependent on you. Especially if their English is zero. Gdps also have been conditioned to take what they can get I believe! LOL- non-pro was much easier allthough being with them in Brazil was zero stress.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1884614]Regarding brazilian girls getting stopped when entering Europe. It never happened to any of my visiting GFs. However it does happens. Usually if the migrations staff suspects that the girl is a prostitute with intentions to work in Europe. Then they can very well refuse her to enter Europe and send her back to Brazil. If the girl is dressed properly, behaves herself and can show some funds (credit cards/cash) there shouldn't be any problem.[/QUOTE]Again you clearly haven't brought them to UK. Notoriously dificult in customs. If they speak zero English they will usually get interviewed. One got through because she could respond-both had return tickets printed, cards, letters of support and dressed normally.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1884514]If you don't want to get with the brancas that's fine. But I wish you would stop claiming that there's some kind of "look" in Brazil that you allegedly can't find anywhere else (so why go with what's in ample supply back home blah, blah, blah). I live in an American town where every kind of look possible is available. So, I don't go to Brazil for some look that I can't find here. I go for the "attitude" that I find it too hard to source here in my country. For me, that's what makes the difference. Here are a few shots of three old Solarium "experiences" shall we say. Took both Nicole and Debbie in the butt. Violina didn't do that LOL![/QUOTE]That's true. Even the white girls have more vibe about them in Brazil-I guess it's just a preference.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884643]Again you clearly haven't brought them to UK. Notoriously dificult in customs. If they speak zero English they will usually get interviewed. One got through because she could respond-both had return tickets printed, cards, letters of support and dressed normally.[/QUOTE]
Clearly you're wrong again. :)
Two weeks ago my GF passed the immigration (btw, don't mix immigration with customs) in London Heathrow. Of course they ask some stuff that's normal. It went very smoothly in London. The immigration staff in London were way much nicer than their colleagues in e.g Paris or Frankfurt. The girls that will have problems are those with P-u-t-a written on their foreheads.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1884810]Clearly you're wrong again. :)
Two weeks ago my GF passed the immigration (btw, don't mix immigration with customs) in London Heathrow. Of course they ask some stuff that's normal. It went very smoothly in London. The immigration staff in London were way much nicer than their colleagues in e.g Paris or Frankfurt. The girls that will have problems are those with P-u-t-a written on their foreheads.[/QUOTE]As I wrote in plain English-she doesnt speak or understand English so-If they don't speak or understand any English how can they respond to questions in immigration when travelling alone? Exactly. Hence why many get interviewed and unable to answer the officer they call up whoever they are staying with/is sponsoring them. That doesn't make them putas. Most Brazilians can't speak or understand English and Heathrow Immigration are not cool-not at all.Do you really think even putas would show up at Heathrow looking like one? .Who even does that?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884828]Do you really think even putas would show up at Heathrow looking like one?[/QUOTE]
In your case that seems to be the case. There are thousands of tourists passing European immigration without being able to speak English. Immigration staff often speaks several languages. Many brazilians understand enough English, Spanish etc to be able to understand what the immigration staff ask them. The exceptions must be the extremely dumb ones.

This has really nothing to do with Rio de janeiro, so better not fill the thread with off-topic stuff.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1884828]As I wrote in plain English-she doesnt speak or understand English so-If they don't speak or understand any English how can they respond to questions in immigration when travelling alone? Exactly. Hence why many get interviewed and unable to answer the officer they call up whoever they are staying with/is sponsoring them. That doesn't make them putas. Most Brazilians can't speak or understand English and Heathrow Immigration are not cool-not at all.Do you really think even putas would show up at Heathrow looking like one? .Who even does that?[/QUOTE]At this point I am writing for the benefit of other members who may actually be interested in a factual account of how it works when someone from another country who does not speak English travels and needs to pass immigration in an international airport. The immigration officer looks at the passport and if he does not speak the language of the country (in the case of Brazilians, Portuguese) he will ask for an interpreter. The Interpreter acts as a translator for the immigration officer and the visitor. If there is a question concerning the visitor being able to maneuver around the airport by themselves, often the person who is responsible for them is called.

If you do invite an unaccompanied Brazilian to your country the best thing is to make sure she has your number with instructions to call you when she reaches immigration. Be at the airport expecting the call. While you will not be allowed to enter the immigration area, you can be close by. If you are travelling together and it is your native country, there will be separate lines and be prepared for her to be stopped and there to be a delay. In the US, I actually have been allowed to be the interpreter. When entering foreign countries, we have entered together without issue. In fact, it was easier than entering the US.

On another note, if you are traveling together from a Brazilian airport, you most likely will be hit up by shills trying to sell health insurance. They will tell you that your companion cannot enter another country without insurance. Tell them to have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1884832]In your case that seems to be the case. There are thousands of tourists passing European immigration without being able to speak English. Immigration staff often speaks several languages. Many brazilians understand enough English, Spanish etc to be able to understand what the immigration staff ask them. The exceptions must be the extremely dumb ones.

This has really nothing to do with Rio de janeiro, so better not fill the thread with off-topic stuff.[/QUOTE]So stop responding.

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1883025]Overall, Rio is still a good deal if you hit the right spots, especially with the current exchange rate. Unfortunately for some, it's not the point and click type of place like it was in the Help, MP and ho beach days. If you are still stuck on the way it was back in the days, you will have a hard time there. Do your research and have a plan. Back in the days, even if you came in blind, you could always run into cool guys you could hang with and check out the different spots. These days there isn't as many old vets going down (at least not in Copa), so you are on your own mostly. Anyways, nothing new in this report, that haven't been said before, just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Great report and solid advice! I'm not sure how they chased the program girls off Ho Beach. These girls were mostly the aggressive ones who didn't care who saw them soliciting on Copacabana beach. However, you could find a diamond on the beach if you chatted up with the quiet, subdued girls. There used to be some real beauties up for the game at Posto 9 Ipanema. You wouldn't know unless you put in some time and had some game. That opportunity must still present itself?

I've gone to Rio solo and in groups. When I was solo, I ran around all over town. The comraderie of other punters was nice, but mostly for some drinks or to share a cab to Centro. Some newbies would be uneasy about going to Centro. In fact some guys tried to make a living being punter guides, but I'm guessing that business got tough. When your solo, it's not a bad idea to spend some time with a cool chick that will bang you before and after. When I've been down with large groups, some of the guys were lazy and wouldn't step further than a few blocks from ground zero (Help). I'm sure the city was not happy with this scene of gringos and young hookers congregating on the beach and Avenida Atlantica.

Does anyone have a solid map of the Postos on Copacabana beach which shows their relation to other landmarks on Avenida Atlantica? Are the postos marked as you walk the beach?

[QUOTE] I have to say it is easier to hang in Brazil where you don't have to be tour guide and they are not totally dependent on you. Especially if their English is zero. Gdps also have been conditioned to take what they can get I believe! LOL- non-pro was much easier allthough being with them in Brazil was zero stress.[/QUOTE]This topic made me recall a Paulista Mulata who plied her trade and lived the party lifestyle, hunting fat European wallets from the beaches of Copacabana primarily opposite the 5 star Hotels. She hooked her gringo and got her all expense paid trip to London. Within no time she was working in a be. J. Sauna whilst still semi servicing her Gringo and getting free lodging in S. London. However the gringos in their own country have to work to pay the bills and the playboy swordsman's lifestyles whilst travelling in the whoring grounds of the Latin Countries does not happen! So the trIxy mulata soon got bored. After one encounter with her she said " yes I am Brazilian and I need sex everyday " Unfortunately the Bill payers do not have the stamina and free time that the beach dwelling favela gigolos have!

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1883899]Rest assured there are no shortage of options in Rio. Also, reports of Rio going to the dogs as a result of economic upheaval are vastly exaggerated. While unemployment is up and petty street crime is on the rise, Rio has never been the safest of places. Use your head; don't walk around late at night in Copa on your own unless there are crowds around, and don't' be too flashy.

From a mongering perspective, while there's no longer a puta's Mecca (Help), the city still draws attractive girls from all over the country looking to make a quick buck, in a myriad of establishments. As a result, your options are still pretty good, and the girls are unparalleled in terms of their eagerness to please and services on offer.

The Olympics will be a lot of fun. While the logistics may be a disaster, and the venues and site concessions well below the standard of previous games, Brazilians throw a good party. And while the initial estimates of 1. 6 million visitors will more likely turn into 600 k-1 m, depending on a variety of factors, that's a lot of people descending on one city. You can expect Mabs and every other spot in Copa to be rammed every night as girls from all over the country try to make some USD / Euros.

You will have a great time as the city will really be hopping.

The World Cup was fun, and I'd expect the Olympics to be much better as the entire event is concentrated in Rio.[/QUOTE]True, that Rio is not an obvious playground as it was once with Help, etc. Yet, if you dig deeper into the entire city, culture, etc. , you will still have plenty of fun. I personally never took anyone from help. Hell, I never even walked inside, just walked by a couple of times. That obvious meat market scenario is not my cup of tea. I am not being critical of it, but it did not appeal to me.

This city can still be a freaken blast. Pussy every where. However, forget about touristic landmarks, I think learning basic portuguese, learning the culture in general will take you a million miles further in meeting a variety of women anywhere and at any time. This means both pro and non pro. Its a whole different experience.

Again, tons of fun to have in Rio, but takes a bit more work, or a lot more money: -) Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1884903]Does anyone have a solid map of the Postos on Copacabana beach which shows their relation to other landmarks on Avenida Atlantica? Are the postos marked as you walk the beach?[/QUOTE]Simple as typing Avenida Atlântica in Google Maps. You will see the Postos right on the map.

Everything I know I learned on the Internet.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1884903]Does anyone have a solid map of the Postos on Copacabana beach which shows their relation to other landmarks on Avenida Atlantica? Are the postos marked as you walk the beach?[/QUOTE]The Postos along the beach are all lifeguard stations with bathrooms and showers below them that also have a large number on them. The system starts in Leme at Posto 1 and ends at Posto 12 in Leblon. The Copacabana Palace Hotel is located just after Posto 3 heading towards Posto 4, and the old Help was roughly at Posto 5. They are all marked and impossible to miss.

If you're actually going to meet someone on the beach, you can either meet directly at one of the Postos or use the Barracas (the tents renting chairs and selling drinks directly on the beach). Each Barraca (pronounced Bah-Hah-Ka) has a unique number and they too are ordered chronologically along the beach.

If you're trying to get your bearings in advance of your trip, recommend that you use Google's street view function and go for a virtual stroll down the beach!

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1883878]If you're in Sao Paulo with a wingman and out late on a Wednesday-Sunday night, I highly recommend paying a visit to Love Story. Easily my favorite dancing / GP locale in SP. Tends to attract a lot of the working girls who've finished their shifts at the higher end spots and want to party. However, as they aren't at work, you sometimes have to put in moderate effort to close, which can be sort of amusing......[/QUOTE]And what, you work for the club. No thanks. I'm not interested in paying R200 just to go into a club. Not to mention the big Reals the girls want to go back for a bang.

Yesterday I saw a report on some reputed news channel 'Rio experiencing crime wave before Games' showing a tourist getting mugged while walking by a busy street in rio. He was furiously attacked by a young guy who wanted to snatch his valuables & no one stepped up for help. Just a day before I read something similar on the web but didn't pay much attention to it, let me quote.

[QUOTE]"When in downtown during the rush hour, be aware of pickpockets as in any other big city center. The difference in Rio is that the pickpocket can often be a bit violent: one of them pushing you forward in the bus or to the ground in the street while another one takes your wallet and runs away. It's not that usual or as bad as it sounds, but try to avoid being in real danger by reacting strongly as these guys often operate in armed groups (2-5 people), some unnoticed by you".[/QUOTE]But today when i saw that live footage... omg I mean its really happening right there. Guys any idea how frequently these incidence occur & is it really a matter of concern.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1884994]Yesterday I saw a report on some reputed news channel 'Rio experiencing crime wave before Games' showing a tourist getting mugged while walking by a busy street in rio. He was furiously attacked by a young guy who wanted to snatch his valuables & no one stepped up for help. Just a day before I read something similar on the web but didn't pay much attention to it, let me quote.

But today when i saw that live footage... omg I mean its really happening right there. Guys any idea how frequently these incidence occur & is it really a matter of concern.[/QUOTE]Maybe best to discuss it there.

Mugging and crime. That's life in the big city. Having spent too much time walking every housing project in New Orleans (I know, not as bad and scary as some favelas), here's my advice:

Never carry more than you can afford to lose.

If you get robbed, give them what they want and look at your shoes. They'll just as soon kill you as leave a witness.

Don't wear jewelry or walk with your phone in hand.

Walk with purpose and be aware of your surroundings. Stay on the beaten path.

Don't look like a victim. Don't act afraid; make eye contact when walking; be confident. If people are getting mugged on busy streets, then how do the muggers pick their victims? You have something they want and / or you look like an easy target. If you are frail in body, mind or attitude it's best to stay away. Of course that's kind of the point of the scary news, to keep you cowed. Rio has always had muggings and murders.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1884994]But today when i saw that live footage... omg I mean its really happening right there. Guys any idea how frequently these incidence occur & is it really a matter of concern.[/QUOTE]
Good gracious, now you making me worried. I was planning a trip to Rio de Janeiro, but I never heard about muggings in Rio de Janeiro. I've already booked a room at Cobracabana Palace. Should I cancel?

[QUOTE=Andy7;1884994]Yesterday I saw a report on some reputed news channel 'Rio experiencing crime wave before Games' showing a tourist getting mugged while walking by a busy street in rio. He was furiously attacked by a young guy who wanted to snatch his valuables & no one stepped up for help. Just a day before I read something similar on the web but didn't pay much attention to it, let me quote.

But today when i saw that live footage... omg I mean its really happening right there. Guys any idea how frequently these incidence occur & is it really a matter of concern.[/QUOTE]That's mild for Rio. Tons of crime, muggings, killings, stabbings and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] so cancel that trip.

Stay at home, double-lock the door,hug your teddybear tightly, pull the blinds down, turn off the lights and don't say a word and youll be ok.Its RIO!!!!!!!!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79nLrVe8NuA[/URL]

Anybody has experiened this trip?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1885246][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79nLrVe8NuA[/URL]

Anybody has experiened this trip?[/QUOTE]Ronaldo!

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-562742/Brazilian-World-Cup-star-Ronaldo-takes-prostitutes-hotel-room--discover-MEN.html[/URL]

For the unknowing Boneca (meaning doll) is code for transvestite, which appears to be the specialty of this limo service.

Don't think the owner of this site is into promoting that kind of business.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1885246][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79nLrVe8NuA[/URL]
Anybody has experiened this trip?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't enter that limousine even under gunpoint. Only travec*s.

[URL]http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/RJ[/URL]

The map gives an idea, what could happen in Rio, but not the real numbers.

In So Paulo, the map gives 532 robberies for the last 120 days, when the real figure for April only is 26.778 (Folha de S. Paulo today). Murders went down to 348 for the same period.

[QUOTE=Andy7;1884994]Yesterday I saw a report on some reputed news channel 'Rio experiencing crime wave before Games' showing a tourist getting mugged while walking by a busy street in rio. He was furiously attacked by a young guy who wanted to snatch his valuables & no one stepped up for help. Just a day before I read something similar on the web but didn't pay much attention to it, let me quote.

But today when i saw that live footage... omg I mean its really happening right there. Guys any idea how frequently these incidence occur & is it really a matter of concern.[/QUOTE]Drink enough to take the edge off but not so much that you're not aware of your surroundings. Your best bet might be to find 1 or two girls early on, wife them for the trip and let them spoil you sexually and show you around. Or make nice with some cool mongers and ask to tag along. Just don't be needy. Be a student, not an apprentice! That said, having not been there in 7 years, I feel like a Rio newbie again! Not scared though!

[QUOTE=Nordico;1885308][URL]http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/RJ[/URL]

The map gives an idea, what could happen in Rio, but not the real numbers.

In So Paulo, the map gives 532 robberies for the last 120 days, when the real figure for April only is 26.778 (Folha de S. Paulo today). Murders went down to 348 for the same period.[/QUOTE]In Rio you got Bangu (home of maximum security prison) and Barra de Tijuca leading the way in robberies. Copa is 7th. Botafogo is like 4th! LOL.