Cindy #2 (Cyntia at the Extasis)
I meant to issue the challenge against Cindy #2, not Cindy #1. The challenge still stands. Just needed to clear that up. As for Cindy #1, working at Pasarelas, she is a relatively easy bar fine if you can come up with the money necessary to do so from an expensive place like Pasarelas. Bar fining from Pasarelas is pretty pricey. The guy that took her on salida did not pay a bar fine, and revealed that he had run into her by some other means, thereby avoiding the inflated cost. He described it as an odd chance meeting that presented the opportunity to see her.
Cyntia, Cindy #2, is still working at the Extasis, and told me she will not be working at Casino. I visited her on Friday night.
You will all be proud of me (Carlos). I only bought her three individual drinks this time, NO JARRAS.
She nursed them for quite a long time, apparently aware that I don't want to throw away my money on Jarras any more, and that I will "ground" her if she drinks her individual drinks too quickly.
I went to Extasis to get her phone number. I am still working on her, but not interested in spending too much on her to that end. If I buy her drinks, it's merely that she is more entertaining than bar fining a girl back to my room for sex. She IS that intellectually entertaining for me.
I am back in the "WastedG Land" (a play on words WastedG..."Wasteland" ie: my home town), and when I recover from my travels, I will post some more details of my recent trip. Stay tuned....
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Nope, that's not him...
And you did say and I quote: "I challenge anyone to successfully barfine Cindy #1. Have at it... :-) "
I'll print the emails and take them to lunch...[/QUOTE]
Friday Night...and commentary at the end.
RTW and WastedG, and of course, I include my good friend Carlos in some of these comments here as well...
Guys, sorry I missed you on my last night in town. We will all see each other soon again I hope...I just know it.
I also feel very bad about missing Porker's call to my cell phone on Friday night. I was otherwise engaged in the privados with "G" when the phone rang, and I was preoccupied.
I assume it was Porker attempting to call because he was planning to be in MTY because he was going to be traveling to San Antonio later than night. I don't know if he ultimately stayed in MTY or if he went to San Antonio immediately after he couldn't reach me. I tried calling back that number that rang but there was no answer. He is generally calling me from a pay phone when he calls because he has no cell phone.
This little club of ours, a club of "regulars," seems to be growing. The more the merrier. It makes the entire experience so much more enjoyable when you guys are there with me in the clubs...
That having been said, I would not want anyone to construe that I am gay...I have referred to the following before, but it is so hilarious that I can't resist...
It brings to mind that politically correct joke from the Seinfeld episode where everyone thinks that Jerry is Gay because he is neat, clean, thin, unmarried at over 30 anos, etc...So, Jerry has a need to always tell everyone that he is not Gay. So, he is always saying, "NO, I AM NOT GAY!!!...not that there is anything wrong with that." Hilarious!!!
Anyway, back to the issue at hand. My last night in town was actually quite tame. I went to the Extasis around 9pm. My girl from the other night at Casino, Cyntia, was there working. She was not occupied, so we sat in the comfortable couches, and I purchased her a total of three individual drinks, and some tacos for dinner, the total cost just slightly more than the cost of one Jarra.
She attempted to get me to buy Jarras but I told her no, no more Jarras mi amor. She finally accepted that I had apparently wised up over the last few years. She was fortunate to get the Jarras from me at Casino the prior night, during a time that I know she was probably trying to impress the management on her first night's work there.
She has decided not to work at Casino, but will stay at Extasis. She told me she is comfortable at Extasis. I think it offers her a kind of security blanket, just because she was there so many years in the past. When we were at Casino together, she was growing increasingly worried about stripping on stage. She kept telling me that she felt embarrassment about it, and she was really quite apprehensive. Later, when we were at Extasis, she told me that after I left Casino, and she was scheduled to go on stage, she decided to leave the bar. She told me that right after I left she went home, and did not follow through, that she just could not strip up there. I find her state of mind interesting. She actually strikes me as being a pretty timid bar girl, seemingly losing some of her confidence compared to the past. I never really dreamed that she would have such an apprehension merely based on the venue. She is feeling the effects of her age?
As I mentioned, we also had some tacos for dinner there. The tacos we had were from a vendor that comes to the Extasis some nights and has food available outside. Cyntia told me that the food is really good, and that I should not worry about it. So, at her urging, I ate one of the tacos. It was really quite good. But, it was sooooooooooooo incredibly HoTTTTTT!!!
I only ate one of them, and perhaps they were uncharacteristically hot compared to usual, even for a pure bred Mexicana like she because Cyntia probably only ate maybe half of one in total. There were at least five of them on the small plate. Anyway, they tasted quite good to me, and I had no adverse "Gringo" style reactions to the quality of the food. So, I assume the food is ok...???
Cyntia and I have a really good time together always, and this was no exception. I was doing all my routine foolishness with her, all of which she had seen before, all of which significantly amused her in the past, and this was no exception. It was kind of like a couple of old friends, reminiscing their exploits together. Like a couple of old guys telling war stories (kind of sad, but sentimental)...
For me, upon quiet reflection, it is kind of sad to reminisce because you know it will never be quite the same. She has matured, changed slightly, become a slightly different girl in three years. She told me that she had tried to call my Mexico cell phone after she left Extasis, but there was no answer. Of course not, my Mexico cell phone does not work in the US. This time she punched her cell number into my Mexico phone, and told me never to lose it. I truly believe she is very attached to me emotionally, and I to her.
I was surprised when Cyntia and I were discussing the past and she told me that when I met her she was 18? years old. She told me that at the time, she told everyone she was 20, which I distinctly remember. I remember how she looked then, and believe me, she looked like a 18? year old, HOT, frickin' unbelievable high school deva. I will never forget her in those days. She was HOT, HOT, HOT!!! and still is.
But, after having a baby, she is not the HOT nubile girl she once was. She is still very attractive, actually quite attractive, but there have been changes. I notice she wears a lot of makeup now, and that her body is a little softer from having a baby. Her face shows age now, whereas her skin was flawless only three years ago. With the light just right, I could see where the makeup is covering it up.
She is still really HOT physically, and she is still exceptionally pretty, but she is not the 17 year old girl that I knew then, if in fact she is not lying about her age. Based on her apperance, I have my own doubts about her actual age, but that is another discussion. She told me that she is now 22 years old, which would have made her 18? years old when I met her. But, frankly, her skin is looking older than most 22 year old girls I know in MTY. She has either been lying to me about her intial age, or she is older that she cares to admit. Frankly, I do not think she is lying about her age. I remember how she looked five years ago. But, I do think, unfortunately, that she is aging rapidly. Que Lastima.
As Carlos has told me before, it is usually never as it once was when we engage in reunions with old flames. That is so true. But, still, Cyntia has the same force of personality and alure that I find almost irresistable.
I told her that I have so many regrets with her. I could never get her out of the club on salida. She would always offer to have sex with me onsite, but she would never agree to come to the hotel with me. She always had excuses. But, she would always tell me that she would take me upstairs and promise to rock my world there, no problem, actually acting like she would like to do it. But, of course, I never liked the on-site experience, and I don't always particularly like sex in and of itself.
Preferably, I like to develop a deeper meaning with a girl, and it is very hard to do it on-site, without all my props in the room to draw upon, my music, pocket rockets, good conversation, mucho tiempo para carino, etc...
So, I have always declined her offers to take me upstairs. She would always tell me that she wants to go with me upstairs, she not understanding why I do not want to take her up. It is not necessarily a money issue. It would actually be cheaper to screw her onsite. What I don't understand is that I would pay her the money either way, and if she were to go with me on salida, perhaps after work, then she would make the salida money and her salary.
I don't know what keeps her acting so unavailable. I know she trusts me. You all saw how she acted toward me in Casino, jumping on my like I am her long lost dream boat. I know she would go with me, but something keeps her in check. Maybe she has a boyfriend/esposo and can not really be seen outside the club. But, bottom line...as Carlos would say "So WHAT!!!, Don't pay any attention to them."
See Carlos, aren't you proud of me...I pay no attention to her, but my mind is always working, always calculating the angles. I have no expectation to ever actually get her on salida. I may decide to finally take her upstairs on my next trip, just to get her out of my system, just as I did with Cindy #1 at Pasarelas. But, I have all but given up on throwing money at the situation in hopes that she will eventually break down. I am wiser in that respect. I may buy her drinks, but it will only be because I want to see her, and not with an eye toward a future expectation.
What she does not understand is that I do not want to have sex with her, I want to make love to her. I do not care about the sex, but the combination of our history, our apparent affection for each other, which I believe is truly mutual, and my need to know her intimately includes much more than merely having sex with her. Maybe as she matures she will someday understand. I tried to make her understand on this trip, but trying to discuss these issues in Spanish, issues that include such abstract ideas, is very difficult for me to express.
Anyway, I am through throwing money at the situation. If I go to see her it will be with the expectation that I am only going to have fun with her, within the relatively anticeptic environment of the club itself, and only because I enjoy her company. She IS very affectionate toward me when we are together huddled on the couch in the dark corner of the club. I have really never seen her act with other customers like she acts with me, and I have watched her many times from afar when she did not know I was in the club. Que Lastima, I know I could win her over if she would just go on salida with me.
I returned to the hotel around 11pm. Yeah, it really took Cyntia two hours to consume three drinks. She was being very good to me, trying not to be too mercenary. I think she has decided that she needs to curb her ways slightly. She seems significantly less confident in her abilities now after having had her baby, perhaps feeling the effects of her increased age, perhaps resulting in her own sense that guys are not falling at her feet any more like they once were. Oh, what a difference just three years makes in the life of a bar girl.
While I was there, she danced on stage. She is still HOT, but not the same HOT body she once had. Don't misunderstand...she is still really quite frickin' unbelievably HOT, but there is a difference, and she already knows it.
I was so tired around 11pm, that I just went back to the hotel and went to sleep after that. I knew that I would have to catch the bus to Laredo in the morning, probably around 7am. I knew I would need time to pack, check out, etc...which meant getting up around 5:30am for me. So, I just went back to the room and went to bed, visions of sugar plum chicas dancing in my head :-)
On another note...
RTW, I have a different take on waiting for the girls to show up. I usually wait about 45 minutes to an hour. Most of the time, I find that if I had chosen to leave, I would have missed them altogether. Sometimes, the girls are coming from far away, and it takes them longer to get somewhere due to traffic, etc...Plus, many of the girls are just not punctual. It is their makeup. WastedG has success with telling them he will not wait...but, we also don't know how many of them he might have missed after having left on cue.
Nothing frustrates me more than having to wait for them. Usually, if I have their cell phone number, I will call them up to verify they are coming when the time is close, or when they are running slightly late. Sometimes they answer and tell me they're on the way, sometimes they can't come, sometimes they forgot, etc...They are of a class that is not reliable. If you expect them to be reliable, and show up at the appointed time, more often than not you will be disappointed. But, there are a number of them that will at least eventually show up. I have had more late shows than I can count, but at least they did show up.
Plus, the way I figure it, I have no other direct options that will provide me immediate gratification without having to first invest more time in cultivating a newbie girl. Travel time to the club, talking to the girl, buying drinks, privados, etc...it is all time consuming as well. Or, if I go to one of the clubs to pay the salida in lieu of meeting the girl that is running late, then it's costing me the salida fee as an additional expense. So, I always feel it's worth it to invest a little extra time to permit them a window of opportunity to show up. It is to my best advantage to have at least that kind of flexibility. However, I think it's probably wise to have a discussion with them about being punctual, telling them you will leave if they are not punctual. It seems to work for WastedG.
[QUOTE=Round the World]Well guys, my last night in town was fantastic unexpected ways. I was still feeling sleep-deprived when we met up in Prestige for lunch at 2pm. And the food seemed better than the selection of girls at the time. The only one who caught my eye was Amber the slender blonde. However Carlos gave me a stern warning against her and she was busy with other customers the whole time. In general , the midlevel clubs like Prestige and Obsession aren’t may favorites because they are almost as restrictive as American clubs. And the racket seems to be high-priced chica drinks, while offering little in return compared to the Infinito’s of the world.
So I was a little unenthused when we next hopped over to Obsession. But fate would prove me wrong. In Obsession, Carlos had a quick eye and spotted and retrieved one of the few hot slender ones (name withheld to prevent her getting in trouble with mgmt). Luckily she planted herself between me and USB. And thanks to USB for, I believe, letting me make the first swoop. She was fun to talk to, pretty, and importantly had a great attitude. She sat for quite a while without asking for a drink. Eventually I would order her a couple of Tequilas over the course of probably an hour which proved that a) she wasn’t just a drink scammer, and b) she liked to drink the hard stuff. Things felt right, so I made my pitch to meet outside after she finished work. As expected she agreed, but this time I actually believed her based on her cues. We made arrangements and I put a number out there, “mil pesos”, to which she replied, “mil besos”. Gotta love that.
But it was now only 4pm, so we all headed to Infinito, where there was an excellent day shift selection. J, X, P, S, and Y were all pretty delectable. Carlos found another S, who turned out to be the sister of F who I had the previous night at Givenchy. I had plans for the night with the Obsession girl, but if that fell thru S said she would talk to her sister F about doing a salida. I left early needing nap before my anticipated rendezvous with the Obsession girl. Before I left the club, I made plans to meet back there 11:30pm with Wasted who was going out clubbing with X and P when their shifts ended. I wasn’t sure how well that would work out, but it seemed like an interesting change of pace at the very least.
Later on, I went to the arranged spot to meet Obsession girl. Wasted had given me some wise advice which was to tell the girl to be there exactly ontime or else I would be gone. At the appointed time, there was no one. So I tried calling her but no response. I waited maybe ten minutes and was about to leave, when I saw her walking up the street. It was a nice surprise and I whisked her away to the Sheraton. I must say that it was the best, uninhibited session I’ve ever had in Monterrey. Top 10 overall, no further details necessary. I will definitely repeat with her (assuming you MTY experts don’t turn her into a hardened pro before I return ;)
It was rapidly approaching 11:30, so I tried to talk her into going out clubbing but she couldn’t tonight, but said she could on Saturday night. Alas it was my last night, so we reluctantly parted. I gave her the money without her asking and she did not count it. Great girl, top notch in all ways. If I could cultivate my own flock in MTY, it would begin with her. We left the hotel together and hopped in separate cabs.
I reached Infinito just after 11:30 and Wasted was still there. Shortly we left and met X and P waiting outside in a van driven by P’s boyfriend. X of course, is Wasted’s infamous X. P was her friend, a tall, pretty slender young thing whom I definitely would have sampled tonight at Infinito if I hadn’t already had my plans with Obsession girl. Now, getting in a beat up old van driven by two strippers and their boyfriend seemed like a bad idea at the time, but I did have the hots for P and figured Wasted knew what was safe. We went to a nightclub called Taboo, which turned out to be a gay/lesbian club complete with male and female gogo dancers. Wasted was tired and soon left. It was pretty strange to find myself with two 19 year old strippers in a gay lesbian bar in Mexico, dancing and singing to Spanish pop rock.
What kept me there was that P was dancing around the whole time and often pulling me out of my seat to dance with her. She desperately tried to teach me how to swing my hips like a stripper, and I taught her the YMCA dance when that song came on. Strange no one else seemed to know the YMCA thing, but several others caught on afterwards. Her boyfriend also turned out to be pretty cool and we had a few laughs and he wasn’t the jealous type (I guess that’s par for the course if your girlfriend works at Infinito). A few of X’s lesbian friends came round and hung out with us and were cool also. I guess the atmosphere of a gay lesbian club is pretty accepting of anyone including over thirty extranjeros like myself. There were straight couples, dykes, gay dudes, straight older dudes dancing by themselves and ogling P while she danced.
One cool moment was when this pretty, busty, blonde at the next table exchanged glances with me when her boyfriend was absent. Over the course of the night, she would give me the eye and say a few words. Eventually she danced over and straddled my leg while the boyfriend was gone. We discreetly parted ways before the boyfriend ever became aware.
After 3am we finally left Taboo, but X and her lesbian pal wanted to go to another club. P and her boyfriend left us at a place called Arco, which turned out to be a club with Transvestite entertainers. At this point I’d had enough, so I told the girls I was leaving, and to my surprise they insisted on leaving with me. We hopped in a cab. At this point, X’s lesbian pal and I had become friends and exchanged email addresses. X on the other hand had been pretty sullen since Wasted left the club. To Wasted’s credit, X said she missed him. One negative point was that X seemed to take every opportunity to stick the gringo for the tab (at Taboo for the drink bill, at Arco for the entry and on the cab ride home) a tendency of hers which Wasted had warned me about. The others, P, her boyfriend and the lesbian pal had not been like that. They were just cool normal people. The lesbian pal even called out X for being so mercenary. But I won’t let that detail get in the way of a fantastic night where I had had a spectacular salida and a uniquely fun night on the town with some cool local youth.
Thanks to Wasted for letting me tag along. And to USB for giving me dibs at Obsession. And of course to Carlos, for always being the ring leader of Monterrey. Can’t wait to return.
Wasted, pm me your email address and I will send you pictures of the girls at Taboo. USB where's the details of your night?
Cheers,
RtW[/QUOTE]
Cynthia will have to change to survive...
Man...I can not believe you have hit 405 posts!!! Good Job CP!!!!!
As for Cynthia, she is STILL one of the most entertaining of all bar girls in Monterrey. She did not play me on Friday night...three ladies drinks, no more, and I spent two hours with her.
So, the way I see it, that is no worse than the drink expenditures I see being made at Obsession and Prestige by someone we know, and with little or no "benefits" apparently being realized for outside fun compared to my apparent circumstances with Cynthia, verdad?
Cynthia had vowed to take me upstairs at Extasis and do anything I want. I speculate that it would certainly cost less than taking her to the hotel on salida. But, the true point of it is, whether, for the money spent of drinks, I am enjoying myself. You, Carlos, always said that such things were the criteria by which to judge the expenditure.
I have certainly spent significantly more on privados at Infinito, probably in a shorter period of time than two hours. So, the way I see it, at least with respect to last Friday, Cynthia earned her money.
I do agree that she is feeling the pinch as a result of the decline of Extasis. But, none-the-less, her security blanket is not monetary, it is psychological in nature. It's just that the "hard-times" haven't forced her out of the place yet. I look for that to happen sooner than later because it was quite dead, even on a Friday night, when most other clubs are filled to the brim.
But, actually, I enjoyed the fact that there were only a few patrons there last Friday night, probably less than 20 customers between 9pm-11pm. But, there were a few good looking girls available in addition to Cynthia. I will definitely check it out again on my next trip just to see what other talent is available.
You know me, I don't really like the weekend nights in MTY, so to have an alternative like Extasis, with a more tranquilo environment, might be just the ticket for my last night in town. Usually, by Friday night, I am starting to wear down. Plus, the competition from the hords of clients in the clubs doesn't help matters. A place like Extasis might be just the ticket on Friday nights.
I am very curious to see to what extent Cyntia is willing to perform with me upstairs. Believe me, if she does go against her reputation, and if she does deliver the goods, all be they in the confines of the club, I will let you know.
She has already done some things with me in that room they used to have there, the one that used to be totally private. She did some things that went pretty far, violating a few mucus membranes, if that be the criteria by which to establish the potential. Cynthia is going to have to change in order to survive, especially the older she gets. When she is ready, I will be waiting. So, don't count me out yet. Oh, ye of little faith!!!
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]About Cynthia from Extasis, you mention:
"She has decided not to work at Casino, but will stay at Extasis. She told me she is comfortable at Extasis. I think it offers her a kind of security blanket, just because she was there so many years in the past. "
MY OPINON: This could be true in the past. The Extasis is no longer property of Fufito and family, so things have change for her. There can no longer be a security blanket.
"When we were at Casino together, she was growing increasingly worried about stripping on stage. She kept telling me that she felt embarrassment about it, and she was really quite apprehensive. Later, when we were at Extasis, she told me that after I left Casino, and she was scheduled to go on stage, she decided to leave the bar. She told me that right after I left she went home, and did not follow through, that she just could not strip up there. I find her state of mind interesting. She actually strikes me as being a pretty timid bar girl, seemingly losing some of her confidence compared to the past. I never really dreamed that she would have such an apprehension merely based on the venue. She is feeling the effects of her age?"
MY OP: Pretty timid... My foot. May I point out to the readers of this Thread that I used to see this girl at the Extasis before the USB era. Let me tell you that I scratched out her name from my List cause she has no sex with customers and it seems she hasn't changed at all. Iam gonna sound very Porkish here, but this Cynthia is a total waste of time and my friend USB, you are wasting time with a girl that is passé, out, wasted and no good.
Of course she cannot work at the Casino, where 95% of the girls get their extra income from FS, contrary to the old Extasis where the income of the house and the girls were drinks, and no FS was requiered from the girls.
But that was then, this is now and the new Extasis, a business that is the pits right now has opted to follow the style of all the regular SCs.
After reading USBs post I can only say that the only thing that hasn't changed in Cynthia is the style. Keeps on trying to hook you again and again.
No señor... get rid of her USB. Cynthia makes you wast time on her, time you could use looking for better girls....[/QUOTE]
