Salvador

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]2. We all know about aids in brazil and besides common sense does anyone care to comment why it is so out of control...to eat pussy or not to eat? [/QUOTE]
Why do you think AIDS is out of control? As far as I know, the Brazilian AIDS rate is only very slightly above that of the US:

[url]http://www.unaids.org/EN/Geographical+Area/by+country/brazil.asp[/url]
[url]http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/br.html[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate[/url]

Whether DATY is a safe(r) sex practice is open to debate, of course. From one of your recent posts ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=406997&postcount=1527[/url]), I gather you're into it. But did you know that the incidence of HIV/AIDS in Peru actually is also in the same range as that of Brazil (Peru 0.50/US 0.60/Brazil 0.70)?

PM me about question #3.

EA

I usually stay in this hotel - it is mainly a tourist joint, I just register the girl/s and go to the room. I never had any objections from the staff. I was last there in November 2005. Price for a double room - and that is what I usually reserve is 234 $R.

If you do not bring a girl in that looks very obvious as a hooker and she is dressed as normal girls are dressed - I never had a problem.

Carlos

Thanks for letting me know.I assume they don't charge you for a guest? Is there anything else you can tell me about the area next to the hotel?Much appreciated.


Artisttyp

Carlos,

Can you tell us which Tche Clube you went to? The last time iwas in Salvador, there were 2 Tches; one on the ocean side of the city not far from Free Night, and one on the bay side of the city on the way to Praca de Se.

I have been to both and agree that the ocean side Tche is HORRIBLE!!! There have always ben VERY few men and lots of uninterested, plain looking women and no strip dancing.

The bay side Tche is great! The women there strip dance. The beer is cheap. Most of the women are only fair, I have seen only a hand full of 8's or 9's when I have been there. But all the women are enthusiastic and I have not been disappointed with the ones I have taken out.


[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]I was just two weeks in Savador and Litoral Norte:

Salvador - I had the impression that Salvador is dead. Very little tourists, empty hotels, empty or closed restaurants.
I tried three boites: Tche Clube, Free Night and Casquinha de Siri.
Tche Clube: 10 hard-core pros, 90 % dogs - no joy
Free Night: same as above
Casquinha: approx. 50 girls, half hard-core pros, other half semi-pros. Good selection. Price range from 200 - 300 reais (asked) Paid 150 reais for TLN with a very nice semi-pro which only wanted to make a little bit of money on the side.
Carlos[/QUOTE]

Blue Tree Tower Hotel:

At Rio Vermelho - which is just at the foot of the hill where the hotel is situated there is an area with approx. 20 barracas/small restaurants where you can eat very well and cheap. Therer is no beach there - you have to drive either north direction to Farol area or to Barra.

George 90 - I was at the Tche Club at the bay-side. I considered it a waste of time. It is small and the selection was small and not good. When it comes to mongering - Rio wins hands down.

Carlos

So from what I'm reading I should expect to pay $60-$70 for a girl? I feel I won't be getting any $40 trade here.The last time I checked on oanda the dollar was 2.32 or something to the dollar.It will be cheaper than new york but not cheap for south america..true/false?

Garotas are between 100 - 150 Reais - the exchange rate for the USD was recently better, around 2,40 R$ to the USD.

If you only want to fuck cheap - stay in NYC (you can save the money for the flight and hotel), if you want to experience the beauty of Brasil and the girls - come. Money is relative - you obviously have not experienced the friendlyness of the girls in Barzil. In NYC you do the deed and you leave. Here in Brazil you will make a total different experience.

Just a philosophical question to understand the American brothers better: If it is cheap enough to fuck - than every girl is ok??? Even if she looks like a dog??? In general I had the impression that on this board the first criteria is good looks and GFE and than the second criteria is the question of pay/money.

I made the experience that also in Brazil the proverb of "you get what you pay for" ist correct.

These are my 2 cents.

Carlos

Carlos,

Thank you for the price quotes I now have a better understanding of what to expect.
In response to your comment about "save your money and stay in nyc":
1. The women here charge $500 - $1000 for a load of nonsense...you do the math.
2.Few pfp realize that there is very little they can offer to a john...a covered blowjob and protected sex after awhile becomes as intresting as the bottom of my shoe.I'm thankful not to pay what americans do here but after time it gets boring and it doesn't stimulate me as much so why should I pay more for it?Why not bargin hunt for the same thing someplace else?I know there are exceptions to what I said but just in general.
3.True I haven't experienced brazilian women but I have with dominican women and you are right that some women really go beyond the call of duty and yes that is exciting and that should be rewarded...thats when I open up my wallet but to pay more just for a prettier face that does less doesn't boost my ego actually opposite. It's like I'm getting worked even when I pay for it.
4. I've mentioned before on the forum that as far as "sex" goes I like a thick brown skin girl (latin,hindu,arabic) thats got some flab to share.Usually they please me the most sexually.The beautiful bitchy type would only turn me on if she let me give her a tounge bath after a good cardio workout.Not many would be open to that.

Bottom line when I pay for it I want it "cheap" if its at all possible because I know more or less what the limits are.
If I'm looking for a girlfriend type situation I agree dont be cheap spend the money but still be wise about what your doing.

I mentioned I was leaving to salvador on january 18th... well food poisoning has postponed that trip till after carnival in mid march.I have to pay a rescheduling fee....etc. etc.

After a long two months of dealing with a bug I picked up in jamaica I'm headed to salvador this coming wednesday march 22 until the 6th of april.I have alot of tours planned during the day but if anyone is around in the afternoons until around 10pm feel free to pm me.I'm planning on trying out a few girls.I do pretty well with spanish but not portuguese.

I've been getting a few pm's asking me for my report on salvador but I'm sorry to say I had to cancel my trip due to stomach problems however I will share some of my experiences planning the trip:

I never use a travel agent because in this day and age if your young healthy and just the least bit knowledgable you can do it yourself. However brazil did not seem to be that easy...maybe it was just me.

1. You need a visa to get into brazil and you need proof of a roundtrip ticket to apply for a visa so I recommend you give yourself a few weeks grace period to apply for your visa($100).If you dont get the neccessary paperwork together you will have to do it all over again.You can download the application and instructions on the brazilian embassys' website...do a google search.
2. I was lucky enough to get a 5 year visa however you need to use the visa within 90 days of receiving it.My grace period has already ended so I would have to go through the process again...which I'm not.
3. If you want to go anywhere besides rio or san paulo that would mean you need to switch to a brazilian air carrier once you reach san paulo or rio which means more effort and shlepping on your part.I couldn't get over the fact that my traveling time to salvador would have been around 17 hours after all the connections etc.I flew from miami to ecuador in 4 and a half hours so right there something tells me brazil is difficult just for the sake of being difficult or thats just the way things are done in brazil.I didn't vibe well with any of it but hey it's brazil after all so you just deal.
4. Because I used an agent I couldn't aquire credit from either american airlines or tam nor was I able to get the frequent traveler miles because I didn't fly the distance.I got nothing! If I decide I want to do the trip again I might have some hotel credit but I doubt it would be any incentive to re book the trip.

Bottom line I felt the confusion of brazil before I even got there and I'm glad I didn't go because If I did get sick I dont think things would have worked out too smoothly.I'm sure its a great place to visit but with just too much pre trip confusion for it to be enjoyable.

Spent some time in Salvador recently and here are some of my findings.

In the Pelourinho the Pro´s hang out in the Praca de Se. There is usually a few on hand, and you should be able to find one that is passable. The short-time hotel just across from the Praca de Se is the Ibiza Hotel, a yellow coloured building. It charges 14 Reals for 2 hrs and has an inhouse porno channel. This was very convenient as my hotel charged 20 reals for a "guest"

I paid from 30 to 40 Reals for a girl that I picked up in Praca de Se.

Visited the Tche nightclub just south of Pelourinho. It charges a minimum 10 Real consumption. Girls will ask for drinks, when they sit with you. You get a plastic card on entry and all expenditure is charged to this card. Do not trust the girls with your card to go and buy themselves a drink. They will often charge the more expensive drinks and you don´t find this out until later. By this time the girl has mysteriously disappeared.

Free Night Club, on the ocean side charges 20 Reals entry. There were about 15 girls available here. It is a strip club, and had few clientele when I visited. One or 2 lookers here. I received a quote of 150R plus 30 reals bar fine.

Visited Aeroclubbe, (Rock in Rio) but didn´t go inside, as the queue was too long. Looks like a good spot to meet regular type girls and listen to live music. Entry was 15 Reals from memory. This place was really packed when I visited on the weekend.

Casquina de Siri has a lot of hookers. None were too impressive to me. The place is about a 30 Real taxi trip one way, and takes about 20 minutes or so.

Salvador is a good place to hang out and meet people, and listen to the music. You may be able to meet regular girls in the Pelourinho.

Next week I will head to Salvador. Please help me answering some questions still open:

1) Can you recommend guest friendly hotels in Pelourinho? Do guest friendly hotels charge nothing (like in Thailand) or a guest-fee?

2) How is the girl-scene in Morro de Sao Paulo? Sounds like a paradise-place ... Many local women there? Also some pros?

Have fun

Morpheus666

Morro de Sao Paulo is very nice, was there twice. You have to bring your girlfriend from Salvador there because it is not a place for mongering. With a prostitute you can better go to a motel or rent an appartment. I know one Dutch guy living in Salvador who can rent two appartments from other owners. In my opinion is better. If you come with a girlfriend in a hotel never is a problem but every evening one other girlfriend mostly is.

[QUOTE=Morpheus666]How is the girl-scene in Morro de Sao Paulo? Sounds like a paradise-place ... Many local women there? Also some pros? [/QUOTE]
Your options in Morro are:
1. Native girls, non-pro's. There are local girls looking for having fun with gringos.
2. Brazilian girls on holiday. Unfortunately there are much fewer brazilian tourists on Morro than it used to be.
3. Foreign tourist girls, mainly from Chile. Very cute and nice girls, but you propably have to work hard to get laid.
4. Pro's. There are pro's from Salvador and Valença working in Morro. You'll find them at the beach parties.

Last time I went to Morro was just before the carnaval. There were at least 2 dozens of pro's working there. If you go in low-season your options are propably very limited.

Of course, you can also bring a girlfriend from Salvador. It's a very romantic place. Personally I prefer not to bring sand to the beach.

Note: Be cautious if you will have sex on the beach at night-time. Some pro's have buddies that will mug you.