Chiang Mai

[QUOTE=ArthurTick;2018826]Thanks for the info BKKdog. I done a Google translate on all your links and could not find even one located in Chiang Mai. Sometime ago I also found those links, only need to do a search in Google and a few more, but as I said; not easy for Farangs to break into that Thai orientated mongering scene. But I will do some more research into the Chiang Mai dek sideline girls and will report if I gain any good results.[/QUOTE]Again, Dek sideline is one of the many websites, not the general term for anyone to search.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2019147]Again, Dek sideline is one of the many websites, not the general term for anyone to search.[/QUOTE]Actually as a general term Thais are using both 'Saao Sideline' and 'Dek Sideline' and there is at least one site incorporating the term Dek but more sites seem to refer to "Saao Sideline". Saao means a young girl, and Dek technically means a child but Thais and Japanese like to use terms like this for youngish school girls hooking part time, hopefully over the legal age.

A couple of example web sites:

[URL]https://www.dek24sideline.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=44[/URL] a Thai site not of much use to anyone here unless your Thai is damn good.

This and another site called [URL]Sexysideline.com[/URL], as examples, are not general and not specific to Chiang Mai, naturally.

[URL]http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-side-line-girls-and-agents-in-chiang-mai-p38[/URL] a more general site in English explaining the scene, with some emphasis on Chiang Mai, but general principals could apply equally in other provinces.

Full time hookers are not considered Sideline girls. School girls only hooking part time, are considered to be Sideline girls.

Personally I have done the odd uni student hooking rather part time, however I did not use the Thai terminology for them. One was studying in Khon Kaen. They were simply part time girls, showing up whenever they pleased and got no salary. I kept in contact using LINE App. I found that some of these students had to concentrate on their studies a lot, and even when not studying had appointments with friends. So time available for hooking was very low overall. So it's not that great when I want specific girls, at the time I am available.

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Personally I have done the odd uni student hooking rather part time, however I did not use the Thai terminology for them. One was studying in Khon Kaen. They were simply part time girls, showing up whenever they pleased and got no salary. I kept in contact using LINE App. I found that some of these students had to concentrate on their studies a lot, and even when not studying had appointments with friends. So time available for hooking was very low overall. So it's not that great when I want specific girls, at the time I am available.[/QUOTE]Maybe now that you are on the topic you could explain some of the terminology since most of us don't read thai.

A friend told me two sisters means ladyboy. What is a moaklerbag? It comes up with google translate- most other stuff is relatively clear.

[QUOTE=Forever69;2019344]Maybe now that you are on the topic you could explain some of the terminology since most of us don't read thai.

A friend told me two sisters means ladyboy. What is a moaklerbag? It comes up with google translate- most other stuff is relatively clear.[/QUOTE]I thank BKKdog for all his efforts and links, very much appreciated.

I went into one of his Chiang Mai links and then done a Google translate job on the site. But it really is mind boggling. The Thai to English translation is awful, a lot of the descriptions used I could not understand and trying to guess what the jumbled translated English ads and comments mean is a very difficult task. Then I thought, if I try to contact one of those girls in English, machine translated into Thai, the situation is going to be the same for them only in reverse. I really cannot see how making any clear communications with them is possible. The only way I can think of bagging one of those sideline girls is by having a Thai friend do all the communicating on the site and on ID Line.

[QUOTE=Forever69;2019344]Maybe now that you are on the topic you could explain some of the terminology since most of us don't read thai.

A friend told me two sisters means ladyboy. What is a moaklerbag? It comes up with google translate- most other stuff is relatively clear.[/QUOTE]I did not look closely at those Thai web pages, before. Looked at some at time BKK Dog posted on them previously.

I very much doubt that two sisters means ladyboy (doesn't make any sense), however in Thai, Ladyboys are generally known euphemistically as "girls of the 2nd type". A translate software could easily stuff that up.

"girls type 2" could somehow come out as "2 girls" maybe.

Generally speaking, Thais on forums use a very unusual style of Thai including misspelled words, and made-up words, and significant slang. A Translate software could have a great deal of difficulty with it. Translate software for Thai to English does a fairly crappy job at the best of times. I guess these promotional adverts posted, should be not too difficult and contain some basic info, with a lot of drivel.

No clue how translate came out with Moaklerbag. That does not look like an English word.

My suggestion for Thai sites and translate of them it just to get an overall flavour of the style, without being able to understand every bit of the nonsense that will come out.

I give 3 examples now that I translated myself, which should be a bit better than the translate software, but sometimes I don't fully understand.

Example: "ID: golf_vios Pretty Phitsanulok girl, 'transparent' girl in style of schoolgirl, have young sisters, have changed to a new page, to have you choose every day, real white girls, good service, guarantee the looks, have a high desire together. ".

Another very brief: " sl Chaingmai sideline Chiangmai girls servicing Chaingmai okay Khaaaaaa! Line: sweetnightt + . ".

Here is an interesting one:

"Selling view by phone though the camera (videocam), take it all off, you can make requests, service like a girl friend, guarantee your excitement / arousal, can keep the time, I do till you you cum, I sell nude pics too, and nude video clips, see the face, fresh new camera, no hassle, are you guys interested? If interested contact on LINE: maykwang11".

In my case, to get interested in any of these girls, I need to see what they look like, and if pretty could will be interested. My Khon Kaen Uni student was especially pretty. Selecting her had nothing to do with her being a student. That was just coincidence. I just like pretty girls that like to fuck.

I thought was hard work looking through lots of Thai girl posts on sites with pics to find any girls that appealed to me. Did find a couple. I would not bother to try to read the Thai script, unless the girl's look really appealed.

One reason translate is so poor is that in Isaan (northeast Thailand) people speak Isaan which is in fact the Lao language, they are all bilingual. I saw this with my own eyes. I took an Isaan girl to Lao and she spoke fluently with everyone we met. She could not read a single word of course! The funny thing is that Isaan people use the thai characters for writing. If you cut and paste this into translate it absolutely mashes it up.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2019474]
No clue how translate came out with Moaklerbag. That does not look like an English word.
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[/QUOTE]I know that. I googled it. What you would need to do is what we do, go on the thai site, right click, translate to english and find all these funny terms, go back find them in thai and make a translation for us. If it wasn't thailand I would think it is a condom. Since it is very frequently used. By the way I did answer a couple of ads, A. T. ,in simplest english and got some response, if the girl does not know any english at all she will not want to deal with us anyway. They all have google translate on their phone.

[QUOTE=Forever69;2019878]I know that. I googled it. What you would need to do is what we do, go on the thai site, right click, translate to english and find all these funny terms, go back find them in thai and make a translation for us. If it wasn't thailand I would think it is a condom. Since it is very frequently used. By the way I did answer a couple of ads, A. T. ,in simplest english and got some response, if the girl does not know any english at all she will not want to deal with us anyway. They all have google translate on their phone.[/QUOTE]Without having the Thai script relevant I have little chance. I don't want to go hunting for it. Not that energetic. If you want to post the Thai script not too lengthy together with the auto translate, I could make an attempt.

Might be fun to see how auto translate varies from my translate. I would be surprised if Google translate can do a good job unless very simple very precise language used.

[QUOTE=Forever69;2019878]I know that. I googled it. What you would need to do is what we do, go on the thai site, right click, translate to english and find all these funny terms, go back find them in thai and make a translation for us. If it wasn't thailand I would think it is a condom. Since it is very frequently used. By the way I did answer a couple of ads, A. T. ,in simplest english and got some response, if the girl does not know any english at all she will not want to deal with us anyway. They all have google translate on their phone.[/QUOTE]It seems the only hope of communicating with sideline girls online, is to learn a whole new language, Yinglish, plus all the regional variations and dialects that go with it.

If I start now, within the next 2 years I might be quite proficient at it. Better idea; maybe we could all chip in together and pay a Thai translator to do all the communicating and bidding for us? As a matter of fact this could turn out to be a lucrative business for a Thai proficient in English and Thai languages.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2019474]Here is an interesting one:

"Selling view by phone though the camera (videocam), take it all off, you can make requests, service like a girl friend, guarantee your excitement / arousal, can keep the time, I do till you you cum, I sell nude pics too, and nude video clips, see the face, fresh new camera, no hassle, are you guys interested? If interested contact on LINE: maykwang11".
[/QUOTE]Compare my translate of the Thai above to the auto translate of the page below:

"Selling a phone through the camera to remove all orders made to order. The service like a fan of the phone can be used to make time to complete the sale of his own porn. Sell ​8203;your porn clips in front of the camera is not very interested in if you interested contact Line: maykwang11. ".

You can see the auto Translate is a bit jumbled, and also misinterpreted some things. Important points were missed completely. It is not even clear the girl is selling a webcam strip show. "remove all orders" ha ha. That should have been "remove all of her clothes" LOL Sometimes the Thai script omits words that are understood. "Remove everything" clearly means the clothes, but an auto translate does not have that level of intuition.

The auto translate dropped some points completely like that she would show her face on the naked video stream.

So I warn guys that communication with girls via a translate software is very flawed and misunderstandings are quite easy to occur.

I include the Thai for anyone that can read it:

ขายวิวโฟน ผ่านกล้อง ถอดหมด สั่งได้ ทำตามสั่งได้ทุกแบบ บริการเหมือนแฟน รับโฟนสียว สามารถเก๊บเวลาได้ ทำให้จนเสร็จ ขายรูปโป๊ของตัวเองคะ ขายคลิปโป๊ของตัวเอง เหนหน้า กล้องสด ไม่เรื่องมาก มีพี่ๆคลไหนสนใจป่าว ถ้าสนใจ ติดต่อ Line : maykwang11

[QUOTE=Mostek6502;2019538]One reason translate is so poor is that in Isaan (northeast Thailand) people speak Isaan which is in fact the Lao language, they are all bilingual. I saw this with my own eyes. I took an Isaan girl to Lao and she spoke fluently with everyone we met. She could not read a single word of course! The funny thing is that Isaan people use the thai characters for writing. If you cut and paste this into translate it absolutely mashes it up.[/QUOTE]While most of this is true, it is not very relevant as to why plain Thai writing is mashed by the Auto Translate:

Another example:
ขาว หุ่นดี หน้าเด็ก เนื้อนุ่ม นมมหาลัย บริการประทับใจ
สนใจติดต่อขอรายละเอียดเพิ่มเติมได้ที่

Auto Translate:
White puppies in front of children, soft milk, college milk service impressed.
Please contact us for more details.

My Translate:
White skin, good figure, baby face, soft flesh, college girl tits, impressive service, if interested, you can contact us for more details.

Nothing whatsoever that could be translated to "puppies". LOL It just imagined that word or is trying to use it as a euphemism for something, but the tits had not been at all mentioned at that stage of the script. So that is mystifying. First word by itself is just "White". That has to be interpreted as white skin, not white puppies. LOL.

Part of the problem, is that the Thai does not use proper sentences. It is just a string of words, or clauses. The translate should be capable of seeing spaces between things in the Thai which suggest things to be translated separately, not combined.

I have been chatting for weeks with a girl I met last month in BKK, and I agree. The online translators are a mess. I find it best when I write to her to use the english- thai translator, then run it back through the thai- english one to make sure the main ideas made it through. I'm sure this dumbs down what I'm writing to the level of a second grader, but at least I have the impression she knows what I'm writing.

Often I can't make heads or tails of what she is saying. Which in some ways makes it fun because I can just blatantly ignore messages that are gobbledegook.

Back from Songkran in Chiangmai. Two forgettable FS sessions but two enjoyable massages, one worth mentioning at Natchan opposite May Ping hotel. Her name is Fah cute fresh faced 22 yr old from Ubon. Been working for only one month but I tell you she gave me one of the most sensual massages I've ever experienced. Incredible soft hands and a seemingly natural ability at knowing her way around the male body. She had my full attention when coyly asking "you want special". She asked for a 1000 and for a minute I thought it was over before she accepted 500. I got the feeling she often gets the 1000. Anyway she resumes expertly massaging the shaft the sack the perineum and the asshole. She was reluctant to allow touching at first but then really got into it. I have had lots of HJ's where the objective is to get you off quickly but with Fah she takes her time and it was at least 15 glorious minutes before I popped. I went back twice next day but she was working on both occasions so I decided I would leave the experience for now as simply a sublime memory.

I don't know what it does or the Thai language, but when I am using translate to talk to an Isaan girl on "line" the translate does a terrible job. It's only because they are using Thai characters to talk another language, IE Issan (which is the same as Lao).

[QUOTE=Mostek6502;2023730]I don't know what it does or the Thai language, but when I am using translate to talk to an Isaan girl on "line" the translate does a terrible job. It's only because they are using Thai characters to talk another language, IE Issan (which is the same as Lao).[/QUOTE]As I said; it is a parallel world and almost impossible to find a code to break in unless fluent in Thai and all the dialects that go with it. It's a shame because I recently heard of an undercover dek sideline scheme which is run by a Thai lady who was a receptionist in a Chiang Mai hotel not far from where I live. She was supplying girls from 16 to early 20's for 1500 baht. 1000 for the girls and 500 baht for the woman agent. I heard about this from the news as the agent was arrested, but I guess there are many more in operation. In the news report it said that these girls were supplied to Thai customers, police, local authority workers and businessmen. But hidden well out of sight from Farangs. A sideline agent could be operating next door to my house, but I still wouldn't get to know about it, unless by chance.

Consider this; to hire an early 20's escort from an escort agency can cost almost 6 times what the Thais are paying for the equivalent or even better quality dek sideline girls. Also I know in my area there are love motels, hire a room for two hours cost 100 baht, but again all strictly for Thais. I am starting to feel segregated and deprived living in this country.