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10,000 baht is nothing for a hot Thai girl. 2 nights for a Japanese bar gogo girl. Sex may or may not be required.
Even if you're average looking you can work at a LK Metro gogo bar and earn 10,000 baht in a 10 day shift. Only criteria is to sell 50 drinks depending on the bars quota and show up to work on time. No sex involved.
[QUOTE=Jerseyitalian;2103420]Hi Horse Trader,
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I just got in at 5 am this is my first morning here as well. What part of town are you in? I'm near Central Pattaya Rd.[/QUOTE]I'm gone. Wouldn't answer detailed location questions in forum anyway. Use PM for that type of question.
The beach side of the Beach Rd sidewalk is currently completely devoid of freelancers. However, several diehards have congregated in small groups on the land side of Beach Rd, but numbers are considerably down, maybe only 20% or less of the usual numbers. I spoke to one girl and she it was because of the Police, and that it would continue like this until the 23rd Nov. Sure fucks their business model. Other areas still going strong, including Soi 6 which I just walked through tonight.
[QUOTE=Franga;2103708]The beach side of the Beach Rd sidewalk is currently completely devoid of freelancers. However, several diehards have congregated in small groups on the land side of Beach Rd, but numbers are considerably down, maybe only 20% or less of the usual numbers. I spoke to one girl and she it was because of the Police, and that it would continue like this until the 23rd Nov. Sure fucks their business model. Other areas still going strong, including Soi 6 which I just walked through tonight.[/QUOTE]Seems like a pretty random date unless they are timing it for American Thanksgiving. Any other reason?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103027]Just arrived in Pattaya and was disappointed in the selection on the beach side of Beach Road. Almost zero options, I had expected to find many. Meanwhile, I was expecting nothing on the land side of Beach Road, but there were quite a few choices, many hanging around the motor scooter parking areas. Perhaps the police closed the beach side to freelancers but opened the land side.[/QUOTE]
It's been that way for a year or two - after about 01:00 AM on normal days the police force them to leave the beach or be arrested. On some days it might be much earlier. Unsurprisingly, between this interference at their prime moneymaking time, and occasional shakedowns by the police for money (the "fine" is reputedly 1,000 baht now, instead of the 300-500 it used to be), this means there are fewer girls available, and particularly far fewer attractive ones.
Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]LOL. You got too much Tijuana in your blood man!
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]To Horse Trader.
If you want the Russian girl or model you need to go after 7 pm and on weekend, I saw some tall hot E European girl there a few month ago start at 4500 bht and up.
Fast Eddie 48.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103027]So far my biggest first impression of Pattaya is the huge number of single senior farang men visiting Pattaya. Without ED medications a very large portion of the P4 P industry customer base would be absent.[/QUOTE]
This is definitely the case in the outdoor beer bars. I assume they feel more comfortable with the older women who work in these beer bars. Maybe in 20 or 30 years I will join them.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2103763]Was in Pattaya from Monday noon until Wednesday noon. Was disappointed in Beach Road, per my prior report. Walking Street was OK, but not my style. Did a Tuesday afternoon viewing of 3 soapies, nothing great available so I settled on a 2500 baht girl at Rasputin. At that moment there were only 2000 and 2500 baht girls available. Services were decent but it didn't compare with the 6,000 to 11,000 baht services at Lords in Bangkok. Facilities also not as good. After my session there were about 15 new girls available, about 6 looked very good and were sitting far to the left, which may mean a high price. When exiting Rasputin papasan was chewing out a customer who apparently complained about services from one of the girls.
The highlight of my stay was an evening on Soi 6. Absolutely loved that area. It's nice to be dragged into the bar by a cute girl and not face a bait and switch. Next visit I'll spend more time at Soi 6 and get a nearby hotel.[/QUOTE]Soapies' lineups aren't good in the afternoon. Girls start coming after 5 pm with prime time being 5 to 9 pm. Don't expect anything more than a mechanical session in a Pattaya soapie. You're better off going to one of the non-FS massage shops and getting FS from one of the cute girls. Soi 6 and the Gentleman clubs are where you should be spending time in the afternoons. As you likely saw for yourself if you walked into the gogo bars I have recommended on this thread, that is the best talent Pattaya has to offer other than some of the Thai bars guys on ISG do not visit. My understanding from another ISG member who walked along Beach Road the other night is that the freelancers numbers are very small compared to even before Loy Krathong. He asked me if there was another raid, which happens almost weekly here.
Bait and switch in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2103764]LOL. You got too much Tijuana in your blood man![/QUOTE]Yes. Although I like Thailand much better than Tijuana, I will continue to go to Tijuana. It is 6 hours flying to Tijuana and 24 hours to Thailand. The flight and post-flight recovery is rough on an old man like me.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2103796]Bait and switch in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]The only bait and switch I mean is the good looking girls on the street bringing you inside the bar. Then she goes back outside to bring in more customers while you are left inside with a bunch of less attractive girls. Same as at Soi Cowboy or Nana. In Bangkok I had some success with the outside eye candy, no such luck on Walking Street.
I haven't read any reviews on this so I will give one. On nakula road from the dolphin fountain roundabout for about 1 mile, there are several beer bars. The going rate for the girls is 300 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for short time. There are a mixture of women from young to middle age, or 20 to 40's. I suspect my ideas of attractive are different then many here. The 20 year old spinner is kind of young for me. So that being said, I find many of the women attractive enough. The bars all face the road, so there are girls to pull you into the bars. They are more willing to play games like connect four or the dice game if you want a little something to do while you drink. I guess you could grope a little bit, but not really as the bars face a major street and you are out in the open.
The women were not as pushy to be barfined as those at soi 6. Though, a few want to bet on the outcomes of a game, you lose you barfine them. I think these bars are suited for guys like me, mid 50's or older who want a slower pace and think attractive enough is attractive enough. An average looking 30 year old who isn't fat works for me if she has the right personality. Not that there aren't a few younger good lookers. It's just not the prime place to look for those in pattaya.
Tldr, nakula Road is a good place for guys who want a slower pace and aren't super picky on age or looks. The price is decent. The women are freindly.
All my opinion for what it's worth.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2104213]The only bait and switch I mean is the good looking girls on the street bringing you inside the bar. Then she goes back outside to bring in more customers while you are left inside with a bunch of less attractive girls. Same as at Soi Cowboy or Nana. In Bangkok I had some success with the outside eye candy, no such luck on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]You can barfine the girls outside. At most clubs they are only gogo girls hanging around outside since it's slow inside or they want to smoke. At Sapphire they go outside if they do not want to go on stage. Very few are straight coyote girls. The hottest coyote is one at Palace and she is a pure coyote by definition. The rest of the girls outside Palace are regular gogo girls. I hang out with one coyote at Tantra. She gets barfined almost nightly.
In most cases, the girls outside are not nearly as pretty as some of the girls inside. Which clubs were you unlucky with coyotes on Walking Street?
[QUOTE=Horatio;2104260]I haven't read any reviews on this so I will give one. On nakula road from the dolphin fountain roundabout for about 1 mile, there are several beer bars. The going rate for the girls is 300 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for short time. There are a mixture of women from young to middle age, or 20 to 40's. [/QUOTE]
I have hit the Naklua bars many times but not so much recently. My girl in a Naklua Thai bar no longer works there so I no longer venture to Naklua. I have found the odd young gem there but they are few and far between. They are friendly and drinks are cheap but outdoor beer bars are not my thing.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2104295]You can barfine the girls outside. At most clubs they are only gogo girls hanging around outside since it's slow inside or they want to smoke. At Sapphire they go outside if they do not want to go on stage. Very few are straight coyote girls. The hottest coyote is one at Palace and she is a pure coyote by definition. The rest of the girls outside Palace are regular gogo girls. I hang out with one coyote at Tantra. She gets barfined almost nightly..[/QUOTE]My understanding after speaking with Jerry (co-owner of Sapphire) and one of the girls is that they have a very structured rotation. This is actually what makes Sapphire one of the great clubs- because it is so damn organized and professionally run.
1) You'll notice that all the Sapphire girls wear wristwatches. This is so they can keep track of their 20 minute shifts (3 rotations per hour).
2) They divide the girls between White Top / White Bottom, Black Top / Black Bottom, Black Top / Black Bottom but more lingerie style. These 'teams' are basically tallish thin girls, very petite girls, and curvier (but not fat) girls respectively.
3) At any given point in time, you have one of the teams either (A) on stage dancing, (B) outside marketing the club, or (C) resting in the back. Any others are sitting with customers.
4) In the middle back of the bar, there is a board with neon marker written numbers. It's this long list of numbers in several columns that you'll see the girls / mamasan constantly visiting. They write in their number whenever they check in on stage, denote their number when they are outside, or erase their name when they have been barfined.
I happened to be seated next to the board for two hours the first time I visited Sapphire and was absolutely amazed by the organization of it all compared to other Bangkok / Pattaya clubs where chaos reigns. If you guys have a minute, pry your eyes away from the beauties on stage and watch the magic behind how the sausage is made.
Infinity gogo opened a 2nd club between Infinity and Lucifer. It's called Bad Girls Club. I didn't go in tonight. Maybe tomorrow.