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[QUOTE=Hektor T]There is one more top place near tiergarten that a taxi driver told me about. If I recall correctly the price was somewhat less than Villa Rascona but more than KD, but I don't remember the name.[/QUOTE]

Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

[url]http://www.erotikakademie.eu/index.php?lang=en&PHPSESSID=35d44d48954cefa56e5b0ec0c9bdfff7[/url]

I know they are in Tiergarten and once when I phoned I remember the prices shocked me so they should be then in your area of expertise. I also know that there is a report or two way back in the thread somewhere on their escort services.

Thanks for the report again.

AM

Thanks Hector, for your post.

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hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?

Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.

I've trawled through a lot of the fantastic research available here and done as much 'legwork' as I can. There's a lot of great suggestions on this forum but unfortunately I have limited time (in Berlin) and resources so I can't visit all the recommended people and places. (the reports of distinction thread was particularly useful - it's a frikkin' goldmine).

I'm indecisive at the best of times, and this, my first venture into a 'bordell', is no different.

I'm after a memorable, first experience in Berlin and really can't decide between FKK Artemis, Freudenhaus, Tiffanys and Mon Rouge.

I basically want a good first experience, that avoids girls upselling and clockwatching. I'd also be looking to enjoy two girls at the same time.

So which place do YOU think I should visit? (feel free to suggest others, these were just what my research lead me to believe were my best bets). Where am I most likely to get the above? (also if you have an idea of prices for two girls at the same time that would be most welcome as I've struggled to find these a bit).

Also I've been considering KCs, but would you guys suggest avoiding it as a first-timer?

[QUOTE=Borat69]hi can anyone suggest the best areas to live in Berlin for 4-6 months? Looking to rent an apartment out there. heard Mitte and Charlottenburg are both decent?[/QUOTE]

Ho Borat,

I think it depends on what you look for and your budget. Both areas you mention are nice and on the more pricy side. Wilmersdorf is also nice as is Schöneberg.

Mitte and the slightly further (from the center) Prinzlauerberg have a younger feel to them. Personally I would recommend Schöneberg as it is reasonable and very central and home to a few really nice bordellos.

AM

The second, poorer (in my eyes) bordello in the Liberty empire is due to change ownership, word has it on the German forum. I have always found SP to be a disappointment. I did not have meny sessions there but they were almost always sort of flat for some reason. I guess I find the place sort of dark and it gives me a sort of crowded feel when I go. That and the line up seemed sparse.

I hope who ever takes over spruces the place up a bit. The baronial furniture has to go IMO.


I will post any further news as it happens or as I find out.

AM

[QUOTE=Hotcole]I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.[/QUOTE]

Nothing is ever simple when you ask Angus ;) But I will try to make it so.

And Jesus H. I should be getting paid for this sometime. Maybe a consultancy service? Angus Magee's Hooker Consultancy Ltd. We decide so you can ride. Something like that but it is getting awfully close to pimp-dom and I am not sure I want to go there.

The four you listed:

Artemis: great selection, comfortable surroundings but can be intimidating if it your first time in a big bordello, even more so if your first time with a hooker. The decision making can be difficult and if you have a hard time with decisions, well...'nuff said.

Freudenhaus: In the sticks sort of. Inexpensive (comparatively) but the girl quality varies as does service. It is also sort a public venue in that you walk up the stairs with possibly other punters. Not so good if you embarrase easily at that sort of thing which many 1st time bordello goers do. But some of the girls here are really down to earth and nice. But as I say, not always first tier.

Tiffanies: Could be a good chice for a first time bordello goer. They even have a first time "love school" though this maybe just a marketing gimmick.I have never been to this bordello but my gut tells me it is a bit of a"factory" and some of the girls can be mechanical. But then this is the same everywhere so maybe it is not valid criticism. Especially as I have not been there. The rates are reasonable as are extras, much more so than other bordellos.

Mon Rouge-Over all a good choice and I can think of no real negatives here. Also Charlie 123 has pretty much reviewed 75% or so of the girls personally over the past year or so. So you do have some good on the ground info to guide you here. But it is not the cheapest place in town, nor the most expensive. Extras are not cheap and should be approached with caution lest your hour at 130 suddenly mushrooms to 190.

KCs? Did you mean KDs? (Kamilla Dees)or maybe KGs(King George). If KD this is, or would be, my over all 1st choice for a 1st time bordello goer. It is expensive on the hour but no extras except anal (€50) and thus you know what you spend and do not get asked for more. The ladies are very professional but do not come across as so. You can have a high chance of a GFE here if you are a considerate and gentle guest who expresses his desires-that is don't make the lady guess what turns you on. Be upfront. Or if you do not really know what turns you on, or are just too damn embarrassed to really say so (as used to be the case with me) be upfront about that. Just be upfront.

King George, well, read my report then you tell me if this is where you wan your first bordello experience to be.

Usually the two girl thing is at twice the basic fee. That is two girls for a half hour at Liberty would be 120/half hour (2 times €60). But if you want them to interact, lesbi stuff, expect a fee on top of this for each girl. Again, at Liberty it would be for the half hour 120 + 25+25 or 170 for a duet with lebi action. If you just want them to work on you with absolutely no interaction it might be with out the extra 25 per. I am not sure on this.

At Artemis the duo thing is even more dear. for the half, 60+60 (the basic girl rate) +50+50(the lesbi stuff) for a total of 220 per half. I could be wrong on this but I think not.

Personally I think the duo thing is overrated unless you do a lot of pre planning and ground work at a place like Artemis and find two girl who are actually sort of into each other and do get off on it. Other wise it often comes across as sort of fake (it is) and disappointing. But then I have done the duo thing more than once and it has lost its' real fascination for me. At one point in my life I was willing to do almost anything to see two hot girls lick each other out. So take that into consideration.

Hope this helps. In the end just have the experience. Don't think too too much about it as this can take away from the immediacy of the moment it happens. Not easy (not thinking) but essential to a good experience IMO.

Oh, and before I forget, I expect a reasonable report for all of this. Nothing fancy but do sign in with your experience and keep the Berlin thread vibrant.

AM

[QUOTE=Hotcole]Hi All,

I'll be headed to Berlin in a couple days, and I was after some help making a decision.[/QUOTE]My first visit to a bordello was to KD. I had for some months been frequently visiting massage salons with only HJ as an option. So it took some time for me to realise that I was interested in more than just a 'happy ending'.

KD was great for a first visit. Relaxed, professionel and as AM puts it - be honest about it if you're nervous. This can only make your session better. I would probably recommend one of Berlins apartment bordellos anytime over Artemis or a flatrate place like KG. But then again - I have yet to visit a place like those.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just posted on Angus' blog is the walk from Blissestr. UBahn to KD bordello in Berlin. Please have a look at the video imbed with commentary.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=317[/url]

Enjoy the video

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,

Thoroughly enjoyed the video. It brings back great memories of my six visits to KD over the past several years. Sadly, the video will have to do it for me this year, as my annual trip to Berlin has been moved to Cologne this year.
Not a bad city, but not Berlin.

Your video reminds me of my usual post-KD ritual. A glass of beer at the Mexican restaurant further down Blissestrasse and a brisk walk down Uhlandstrasse to the Hotel Savoy.

Thanks, again. I really enjoy your work!

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been to Berlin a few times and always had great experiences at Kamilla Dee. This time around, I've decided to try Artemis (first time at FKK). Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?

I will be at Artemis this Saturday afternoon (and if all goes well, all day Sunday!) if anyone would care to meet up for a drink.

Cheers!

Hi,

There has been some speculation on these pages about this relatively new bordelle specialising in MILFs and located on Martin Luther Str in Schoeneberg. With a few hours to kill before my appointment with an escort girl I had lined up for early evening, I decided to pop in and check it out.

Having perused their website at length on many occasions, I had come to the conclusion that Rose16 is a resting place for older hookers who can't any more hack it in the competitive Berlin P4P environment and that dirty blowjobs and facials would be available from experienced old pros with pornstar techniques if not visuals.

Actually, it's a pretty ordinary Wohnungspuff that happens to specialise to some extent in older dames. The flat is on the 5th floor (there is a lift) above the sex cinema booths at 16 Martin Luther Str, and is nicely decorated. There were 4 ladies present, the dumpy thing who opened the door, two slim and quite pretty girls in their late 20's and MILF Gitti whom I chose, mainly because she and the dumpy one were the only ones offering 'Blowjob Total'. So, my idea that this was going to be an 'Alles Moglich' establishment was not borne out in practice.

[url]http://www.rose16.de/gitti1.html[/url]

I was offered 20 minutes for 40E or half an hour for 50E - I chose the latter. BBBJCim was included. She was pleasant enough and she had a decent figure with nice big tits, although she is definitely older than her website description and photos might suggest. Her face is a little haggard, but she was friendly and gave good service, so I was happy enough. Her BJ was slow, wet and hands-free - a pleasant change from the frenzied performances that is so often the standard fare at Artemis with 'new' girls. I fucked her in mish for a (very) few minutes whilst she made all the right noises. As a 'quickie', it was fine if unexceptional.

Rose16 suprised me, but only by its ordinariness. I was expecting it to be either a terrific venue for filthy sex with desperate old MILFs, or a dreadful dive whose only redeeming feature lay in the fact that Liberty's is next door to console me when I walked out after 30 seconds. In the end, it is just another small bordelle like many others. The pricing structure is attractive, they appear service-orientated, and for those on a budget it is certainly worthy of consideration. For me though, I'd rather spend a little more and get better-looking girls, so I am unlikely to return.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]Dear friends,

I would like to share with you an idea that grew in my mind lately, about flat rate brothels.

The idea we should circulate is the one already existing for other clubs or all-inclusive resorts: a nice plastic BRACELET allowing you to get in&out of the venue as many times as you wish, in a given day (those bracelets that you can only get rid of by ripping them, so you cannot pass them to friends).[/QUOTE]You can do that at least at KG (maybe also at Caligula but I'm not sure). At least I was told at KG that I can leave and go somewhere else to eat and come back later. They just trust their memory and do not use bracelets (who would like to walk around Berlin with a bracelet saying free entrance to a flatrate brothel, lol)

Hi Fokes,

Newbie here (I hope I'm putting this in the right place, apologies if not)

I'll be making a trip with friends over to Berlin in the next week and would like to know where you would recommend for 3 young lads late teens early 20's new to this party heard good things about Artemis but would it be right for first timers? also it looks a bit pricey.

Thanks in advance

Best regards,

[QUOTE=Medtechexpat]Can someone please advise how I settle my bill at the end of my stay? Any possibility to use credit card or must I bring a fistful of Euros?
[/QUOTE]They have a cash machine at the reception at artemis. I haven't used it myself. I always pay hookers by cash.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Hektor,

Once again an high quality post. Good to have a high end expert here. Charlie and I crawling around in sleaze pits like the King sure ain't going to get you there.

I wonder if the above mentioned place might be Erotikakademie?

AM[/QUOTE]

Angus it wasn't Erotikakademie, it was Odette Bordelle or something like that. 180€/hour but from the website I can't see why

I read your blog and the post you referred to. Re: why guys will pay more, I guess it's two reasons:

1. Trying to avoid wasting time
2. The best way to say it is that I was going to write, skip your next 2-3 visits and take all the money and go to one of the places I listed and tell us what you think. But then I didnt because I realized, some people won't feel comfortable in that environment and it will be worth even less to them in that case. Same is true with the girls working there. Some for sure will go for the extra money if they can get it, while working cheap also. But the 9/10 or 10/10 girl can easily find a guy to pay everything and only work a little on the side. I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people for all of the different tastes. But what never ceases to amaze me is why on forums like this, people are so vocal about why people should never pay more than X !! Especially when they are almost surely not willing to speak up about people paying for any other luxury expenditures