Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1440431]What I really do not understand is the path of marriage to a Thai (exception perhaps to a very whealty or well connected woman) , just to get virtually zero advantage on immigration (a Kafkianesque, costly and humiliating process) , no tangible rights of any kind, while gaining obligations toward her family, assorted burdens, etc, etc.

Altough I understand the perspective changes when there is paternity involved. But that is seriously off-topic here.[/QUOTE]Marcos, you make an excellent point here. In most places, when you marry a local and the marriage is legit, you get a pretty easy path to citizenship. Not here. No way. They just don't want foreigners becoming citizens. Very xenophobic at certain levels of society here.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1440527]Very xenophobic at certain levels of society here.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that.

Just to be sure I google searched and it appears that the essence of xenophobia is:

'irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'

'fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners'

'unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange'

I believe that Thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the Thais are very patriotic people. In no other country have I heard the name of the country mentioned as often as the Thais' do when saying 'Thai lady'. Everything is Thai lady this and Thai lady that and even spoken by men. After all if you are in Thailand there are effectively no other ladies except Thai ladies. They feel they are somehow special.

I see no evidence of 'fear' or 'hatred' as mentioned in the definitions. I think the Thais just don't value cultural diversity as western nations do. They seem to prefer their own level of cultural preservation.

They don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's OK with us too'

Nothing irrational about that. Just look at many of the expats in BKK (especially lower Suk). When I'm in BKK I barely choose to engage with them either.

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[quote=rjsss212; 1440549]hmmm, i'm not so sure about that.

just to be sure i google searched and it appears that the essence of xenophobia is:

'irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'

'fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners'

'unreasonably fearful of or hating anyone or anything foreign or strange'

i believe that thailand is the only country that has never been occupied by a foreign country and the thais are very patriotic people. in no other country have i heard the name of the country mentioned as often as the thais' do when saying 'thai lady'. everything is thai lady this and thai lady that and even spoken by men. after all if you are in thailand there are effectively no other ladies except thai ladies. they feel they are somehow special.

i see no evidence of 'fear' or 'hatred' as mentioned in the definitions. i think the thais just don't value cultural diversity as western nations do. they seem to prefer their own level of cultural preservation.

they don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's ok with us too'

nothing irrational about that. just look at many of the expats in bkk (especially lower suk). when i'm in bkk i barely choose to engage with them either.[/quote]i agree, i don't really find these people xenophobic at all, they enjoy western music, food, and movies. a gal i had lunch with said that 20 years ago most normal thai girls wouldn't consider dating foreigners, fearing their peers would think they were a working girl, of course times are changing now, but i can't find that necessarily an irrational fear from their standpoint.

btw, japan occupied thailand in ww2

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1440549]They don't seem to feel 'graced' by the falang presence (other than liking the cash) but instead almost seem to be saying 'hey, just because you left your own country for whatever reason and chose to expatriate fine, you can stay but you're not doing us any favors and if you want to go home then that's OK with us too'[/QUOTE]It is not even "You can stay". Is it "You can stay under the provisions of illogical, complicated and inconsistently issued Visa types, which requirements and expirations often change for the worst, accept our absurd discriminating laws that prohibit foreigners from owning land or real estate, hold majority in a company, work except as an employee where 4 Thais for each foreigner are employed, be excluded from many types of work, accept to be a 2nd class person in all and any issue, example a legal process, be happy with the widespread corruption and injustice". And if one is stupid and stubborn enough to take the path of permanent residence (that does NOT automatically entitles to a work permit), or citizenship, (that is currently stalled since 7 like years), be prepared to more humiliation and to renounce your citizenship.

Thailand is one of the most racist, xenophobic, discriminating and ignorant countries of the world. That being said, I personally kind of like to hangout here. It is also enjoying a nice weather right now.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1440527]In most places, when you marry a local and the marriage is legit, you get a pretty easy path to citizenship. Not here. No way. They just don't want foreigners becoming citizens.[/QUOTE]Can you blame them? Surrounded by countries all having been subject to colonial rule, the Thai maintained their Kingdom. They know what they're doing. Xenophobia? No. For that, see Isreal.

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1440686]It is not even "You can stay". Is it "You can stay under the provisions of illogical, complicated and inconsistently issued Visa types, which requirements and expirations often change for the worst, accept our absurd discriminating laws that prohibit foreigners from owning land or real estate, hold majority in a company, work except as an employee where 4 Thais for each foreigner are employed, be excluded from many types of work, accept to be a 2nd class person in all and any issue, example a legal process, be happy with the widespread corruption and injustice". And if one is stupid and stubborn enough to take the path of permanent residence (that does NOT automatically entitles to a work permit) , or citizenship, (that is currently stalled since 7 like years) , be prepared to more humiliation and to renounce your citizenship.

Thailand is one of the most racist, xenophobic, discriminating and ignorant countries of the world. That being said, I personally kind of like to hangout here. It is also enjoying a nice weather right now.[/QUOTE]I second your report Marcos. The weather is nice and pussy cheap (or free). What more can a man ask for. Welcome to pussyparadise (along with Makati ofcourse).

[QUOTE=Marcos;1440431]In principle, I agree with you, but not everyone can be happy with ho-hopping all the time. What one gets from such a "relationship" is a quite different experience, <snip> as long one knows that (as everything in life), it will come with bumps and may end on good or bad terms at any time.[/QUOTE]Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?

[QUOTE=Harold444;1440737]So what's the downside of marrying bargirls. I just may have to marry my little dictator. LOL. She says she holding my timeslot open for barfining. LOL. If I marry her I'm sure i'll get a better time.[/QUOTE]What kind of medication do you use? Not a personal attack, I am only very curious.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1440737]So what's the downside of marrying bargirls.[/QUOTE]Everythng.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1440737]She says she holding my timeslot open for barfining. LOL. If I marry her I'm sure i'll get a better time.[/QUOTE]Good idea. You should marry her quick and scoop her back to the USA I foresee countless years of trouble free wedded bliss ahead for both of you. But I hope this does not curtail your invaluable contributions to this forum.

Regards,

BJ

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1440726]Is there anyone with any length of time here who hasn't read already the Stephen Leather books, starting with Private Dancer?[/QUOTE]If not I strongly urge people to read his books and "private dancer" is the perfect introduction. Another of his books I really enjoyed was "Bangkok bob and the missing Mormon". Final recommendation is "The Queen of Patpong" by Timothy Hallinan. Don't even consider "Burnt out in Bangkok" by Tom moon Mullins, it's one of the worst books I have ever read. Normally I pass books on for others to read, this one went straight in the bin!

Regards,

BJ

I went to Mercury in Nana (for those who don't know where it is take the escalator on the right and it is immediately on the right) about four weeks ago and although didn't BF I did talk to a nice lady (No. 69) who ticked all the boxes as far as attitude is concerned. I was there with a friend of mine and after interviewing three ladies he settled on the last one. Anyway we both went back there last night, me with the intention of BF'ing 69. Now comes the funny part. Unusually for a Thai girl she didn't remember us and when we sat down 69 came across and jumped on my friends lap. This made my friend feel very awkward and made me laugh a lot. He protested to her that she should be sitting on my lap to which I responded "mai pen rai".

As it later transpired things turned out good for both of us. After 5 minutes a lovely looking young thing came and sat next to me. We exchanged the usual go-go bar pleasantries, had a couple of drinks and she went up to do her dance stint. At this point my friend asked if I minded him BF'ing number 69, I knew he felt awkward and at the same time could tell by the look in his eyes he was anticipating a good time with her. I respect the fact he was basically asking my permission so assured him I was fine with it. When the girls came down from dancing my friend jumped straight in to arrange the BF. This prompted the lady sat with me to approach the subject. I decided to see if an initial reluctance to commit to a BF might sharpen her interest and it had the desired effect.

I established some ground rules, without making it sound like a stiff business negotiation, along the lines of how long she stayed, DATY, kissing, BBBJ. What I do is not to just "machine gun" questions at the girls but intersperse them with small talk and some humour, if and when possible. So just before 12 we were making the 5 minute taxi ride to my place. She doesn't have an exuberant personality so she was understandably reserved at first but after making her feel relaxed she soon got into the swing of it. The sex was very good and she accepted whichever position I asked for. I especially like the girl on her side with the top leg hitched up towards her chest and she took it like a champ.

Score system. This based on my own opinion and NOT open to anyone else's rating system.

ID: No. 8, name withheld by request.

Age: 23, or so she told me.

Face: 8/10 IMO very pretty appearance even out of the deceiving lighting of the bar.

Body: 7/10 a bit more full bodied than I normally go for.

Ass: 7/10 bigger than I like but still had a nice shape to it.

Legs: 8/10 very nice with thin calf's and wholesome thighs.

Tits: 7/10 C cups but a bit spread out, nice nipples though.

Pussy: 9/10 looked very nice, was tight and shaved.

BBBJ: 8/10 Enthusiastic but no DT. Good vigorous action and was happy to carry on as long as I asked for.

A+: Made it clear this was not being offered. I didn't ask in the bar as it's not really my thing.

Enthusiasm: 8/10 The first time is always different to other times if you decide to repeat.

Clock watching: Not at all.

Blemishes: She has a slight abrasion on her right shoulder due to a bike accident but noting that put me off.

Satisfaction: 8/10 Went to sleep smiling.

WIR: Already planning on it.

I find the attitudes of girls in the smaller bars tends to be better than those of the self perceived super stars who work in the bigger go-go's. A larger quantity of girls attracts more customers which means more BF's. This does not always equate to good service or attitude. There are some lookers in Mercury with some not so hot and a sprinkling of young things too. I would recommend anyone who has not visited this place to give it a try. You may or may not find something to tempt you but you will probably find an enthusiastic companion for ST.

Regards,

BJ