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Coming to Thailand for the first time in March. Booked like 4 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya. Had points with marriott, any joiner fee there? Any recommendations for a 35yr old american dood traveling solo to Pattaya? Going to spend time reading thru the forums. So excited!
[QUOTE=George300;1383488]Coming to Thailand for the first time in March. Booked like 4 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya. Had points with marriott, any joiner fee there? Any recommendations for a 35yr old american dood traveling solo to Pattaya? Going to spend time reading thru the forums. So excited![/QUOTE]No fees at the Marriott in BKK or Pattaya.
Also, recommendations for what?
[QUOTE=George300;1383488]Coming to Thailand for the first time in March. Booked like 4 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya. Had points with marriott, any joiner fee there? Any recommendations for a 35yr old american dood traveling solo to Pattaya? Going to spend time reading thru the forums. So excited![/QUOTE]I strongly encourage you to read the Pattaya and Bangkok forums, from about six months back to present. I've been a member for only a few weeks. I have found the posts extremely informative and very entertaining. Many of the members are [B]very[/B] Seasoned veterans and have a lot of knowledge and experiences to pass on. You're going to have the time of your life. Do your homework on ISG and don't get in too big a hurry when you get to the LOS. It's Disneyland for mongers!
[QUOTE=George300;1383488]Coming to Thailand for the first time in March. Booked like 4 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya. Had points with marriott, any joiner fee there? Any recommendations for a 35yr old american dood traveling solo to Pattaya? Going to spend time reading thru the forums. So excited![/QUOTE]Thanks! Oh sorry, recommendations for the best place to get the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls. Like is there a specific gogo / massage / brothel place with the top tier girls? I'm used to paying $500 / hr here in the states, so pricing isn't that much of a big deal, obviously I don't want to pay those prices, but I'm not a bargin shopper either. Any good restaurant recommendations? What should I avoid in Pattaya? Just some general help for a Pattaya newbie would be much appreciated. While I have been mongering for a while now, I've never traveled to Asia and kinda nervous in a fun excited way. I've mostly stayed with the states, Amsterdam and Germany.
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1382076]I will be visiting for the first time in June. Can anyone suggest something better in a modest price range.
Thanks
Chris[/QUOTE]I don't know if what I suggest is any better, but if you want modest, clean accommodation with A / C for about 500 baht per night, I do recommend The Rose House.
[url]http://www.rosehousepattaya.com[/url]
The rooms are big with a safe and a fridge and there are couple of pool bars nearby (with decent talent) for those nights you don't want to stagger over to WS. It is a bit in the outskirts (just beyond 3rd road) , but I usually rent a motor bike, anyway. The neighborhood is relatively quiet, there's a laundry just across the street and a 7-11 and a market place just a block away. Tuk com is not that far away and I usually walk over there for breakfast. I know fellow mongerers who keep a room there just in case all year round.
They are a bit slow in responding to emails, but I have managed to book them both via email and through friends who live in Pattaya. In June you might get a room by just walking in, as my friends did in November.
[QUOTE=George300;1383994]Thanks! Oh sorry, recommendations for the best place to get the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls. Like is there a specific gogo / massage / brothel place with the top tier girls? I'm used to paying $500 / hr here in the states, so pricing isn't that much of a big deal, obviously I don't want to pay those prices, but I'm not a bargin shopper either. Any good restaurant recommendations? What should I avoid in Pattaya? Just some general help for a Pattaya newbie would be much appreciated. While I have been mongering for a while now, I've never traveled to Asia and kinda nervous in a fun excited way. I've mostly stayed with the states, Amsterdam and Germany.[/QUOTE]Don't be too nervous or intimidated. Just use common sense. Don't get shitfaced and be an asshole. There are many guys like you and many tourists and families walking around the place. I personally have never had any issues with anyone in Pattaya.
There are many restaurants around. If you get stuck, just go to the Central Festival Mall. It is a modern mall several stories high similar to any mall in the US or Europe. Many restaurants and a good food court on the bottom floor.
Read the forum and spend your first day walking around checking the place out. Go to Walking street (after 10pm) , Soi 6 (after noon) , Beach road (anytime but usually late) , and explore the many Soi's with bars.
My first time I walked Beach road and met an average looking girl who spoke decent English. She was about a 6, but I did not care. I took her for 24 hours because she knew the city well and I wanted a tour guide. She also took me to Jomtien.
It was one of the best investments I ever made for about $50. She fucked me nice and was a great tour guide and actually had a motorbike we cruised around on.
[QUOTE=George300; 1383488]Coming to Thailand for the first time in March. Booked like 4 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya.
Any recommendations for a 35yr old american dood [DUDE] traveling solo to Pattaya? Going to spend time reading thru the forums. Oh sorry, recommendations for the best place to get the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls. Like is there a specific gogo / massage / brothel place with the top tier girls? I'm used to paying $500 / hr here in the states, so pricing isn't that much of a big deal, So excited![/QUOTE]Oh Boy! Look out!
1. RTFF especially Reports of Distinction.
2. Subscribe to the Forum and become a member in good standing. (You will then be able to exchange personal messages with other members.)
3. If you are looking for only 'the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls" and you are "used to paying $500 / hr," I think you may be disappointed and yet blown away at the same time. Considering this is going to be a short 1st trip, I would advise you to not focus on age so much. Most of the girls I fool around with, for example, are under 28 and are 7-7. 5* sexy, therefore I consider them pretty hot although not quite fitting your 10* "model quality" criteria. But then I am a tough grader. My 7* may be your 9. All I am saying is be flexible and go with friendly girls who look attractive to you. That's the way to have a good time here in LOS.
4. Specifics: You can get all this by reading the forum, but here a few suggestions that might fit your criteria.
BKK. Rainbow 4, Baccara, La Belle, Spasso, Pegasus, Sherbet, Climax and Bangkok Gold Escorts.
Pattaya. What's Up, Baccara, Sapphire, Devil's Den (maybe).
Guys, I make these suggestions for George here, based on his sincere newbie question and his POV. We were all newbies once. Not all of these places might be right for you, George. Devil's Den for example may not have the "model quality" girls you think you are looking for, but I think a session with 2 DD girls will rock you. Take my list and do some research. I look forward to a trip report from you when you get back home.
[quote=natty bumpo; 1384138]oh boy! look out!
1. rtff especially reports of distinction.
2. subscribe to the forum and become a member in good standing. (you will then be able to exchange personal messages with other members.)
3. if you are looking for only 'the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls" and you are "used to paying $500 / hr," i think you may be disappointed and yet blown away at the same time. considering this is going to be a short 1st trip, i would advise you to not focus on age so much. most of the girls i fool around with, for example, are under 28 and are 7-7. 5* sexy, therefore i consider them pretty hot although not quite fitting your 10* "model quality" criteria. but then i am a tough grader. my 7* may be your 9. all i am saying is be flexible and go with friendly girls who look attractive to you. that's the way to have a good time here in los.
4. specifics: you can get all this by reading the forum, but here a few suggestions that might fit your criteria.
bkk. rainbow 4, baccara, la belle, spasso, pegasus, sherbet, climax and bangkok gold escorts.
pattaya. what's up, baccara, devil's den (maybe).
guys, i make these suggestions for george here, based on his sincere newbie question and his pov. we were all newbies once. not all of these places might be right for you, george. devil's den for example may not have the "model quality" girls you think you are looking for, but i think a session with 2 dd girls will rock you. take my list and do some research. i look forward to a trip report from you when you get back home.[/quote]i do think it is best to recommend some of the commercial spots for newbies. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, sabailand soapies, devil's den (which i hate) , maybe an escort service (big rip off though), and the gogo's i guess. throw in soi 6 also.
any of the above, you will be guaranteed to get your rocks off. from there, go learn some more on your own.
[QUOTE=George300;1383994]Thanks! Oh sorry, recommendations for the best place to get the hottest girls. 18 to early 20s, super model type girls. Like is there a specific gogo / massage / brothel place with the top tier girls? I'm used to paying $500 / hr here in the states, so pricing isn't that much of a big deal, obviously I don't want to pay those prices, but I'm not a bargin shopper either. Any good restaurant recommendations? What should I avoid in Pattaya? Just some general help for a Pattaya newbie would be much appreciated. While I have been mongering for a while now, I've never traveled to Asia and kinda nervous in a fun excited way. I've mostly stayed with the states, Amsterdam and Germany.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for very attractive ladies you will have more success in Bangkok than Pattaya. However, Pattaya has it's advantages which you can discover by reading the posts on ISG.
Now what follows are my opinions. Other members may disagree with some of what I have to say. And I do respect their opinions.
1. If you're looking for model quality girls, most of the ladies in the gogos and massage parlors will disappoint you. The best looking massage girls are on Ratchada. You can find a lot of information about these on Google, also some on ISG. These venues are big, fancy, some in particular have a reputation for having attractive ladies (read up on the model categories of ladies) ; but the problem is, these venues cater to Asian men, not Farangs, and the sexual performance generally is lacking. The MPs near Sukhumvit cater to Farangs. The ladies are less attractive, the rooms are cramped and are not 5star hotel quality, but with just a little luck you will get a PSE (check the abbreviations section on the forum if you don't understand the acronyms). Different guys have their favorite places and girls; my advice is to go over to the Soi 24 area and check out several venues to find a girl to your liking. I also suggest you read the massage parlor threads to get recommendations on specific ladies. Also be aware you can get these ladies to come to your hotel. Annie's has a takeout option which basically allows you to have a night on the town and a couple of fucks with the girl. One of the Annie's girls (#24) gets fantastic reviews, especially for her looks, from many forum members.
As for the gogos, the girls range from below average to very pretty. However, looks and performance do not correlate. None the less it's fun and worth a nght. Again by reading ISG you can get a sense of how to handle yourself in these venues so as not come across as a dumb tourist. Of the two gogo bar locations, right now I think Nana Plaza gets better reviews than Soi Cowboy, though Cowboy has its fans. You may consider waiting until the gogos close and going to either Nana Liquid or Climax. These are two discos that the bar girls go to after hours looking for a "date." Again use Google and ISG to learn more.
Finally, (and I can just hear the other members scream when they read this) if you are looking for a girl with model looks who will give you fantastic GFE or PSE, depending on your preference, I recommend Bangkok Gold Escorts; and I [B]do not[/B] Recommend wasting your time and money on any other agencies. They're just giving you MP girls at inflated prices. Now Bangkok Gold is expensive. Eight hours will set you back THB12000, 4 hours are THB10000. Many forum members think it is crazy to pay that much for a fuck and will point out there are many ladies in the MPs that fuck like a porn star while letting you do just about anything you want to them: BBBJ and multiple pops are standard. Hard anal, no problem. Bareback fuck, just be a little pushy. The only thing is, I would not describe these ladies as looking like models. Some are pretty attractive; but good luck finding a stunning beauty. I have used Bangkok Gold on several occasions. The ladies are hot, the sex is fantastic, the owner (Goldie) and her husband are very customer friendly, but all of this will cost you.
So there you have my opinions.
[QUOTE=George300;1383994]Any good restaurant recommendations? What should I avoid in Pattaya? Just some general help for a Pattaya newbie would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]For food, you can trust any place where there are a lot of Thais queuing to get food. I always distrust empty restaurants, food-carts with no customers and such. But do not be afraid of the food sold on the streets. It is great value and tasty to boot! Most of the working girls are very fond of it. No better "ice breaker" than to offer her some tasty Thai food. Only watch out she did not eat some spicy food just before she snacks on your meat!
[quote]coming to thailand for the first time in march . three days in pattaya. any recommendations for a 35-year old american traveling solo?[/quote]before you go, buy yourself a good map. i like the groovy map available on amazon. just search for "groovy" and "pattaya." they also have a map for bangkok.
it focuses on the areas that tourists frequent and ignores the hinterlands. it's detailed enough to be helpful, but compact enough to carry when you're out and about. laminated plastic won't get soggy and tear. lots of business and bars are included.
as you read the forums, use the map to learn where the places are located. searching online map sites helps as well. once you arrive, you'll have a basic understanding of where you are going.
buy a cheap unlocked gsm cell phone on the bay of e. after you clear customs at the airport in bangkok you'll see vendors who will sell you a sim card for a pittance and make sure the voice prompts are in english. you pay by the minute and you can buy a "top up" card from any 7/11. store your hotel's front desk number in the phone. in a pinch they can translate for you.
with only three days in pattaya, you will barely scratch the surface. if you're a once-a-day kinda guy, i would recommend:
(1) go-go club hottie from one of the top places on walking street or soi lk metro, long time, in your room;
(2) soi six sweetie, short time, on the premises; and
(3) banging a beer bar girl who makes you laugh and spending at least a little time with her.
if you've got "power" to spare, consider adding: blow job bar hummer at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or the pump station, sudsy soapie sex, devils den dual-girl date or beach road freelancer. if raunch is your thing, visit one of the "hands on" go-go clubs on walking street or head for soi six and buy a few ladies drinks for any of the goers and see how much you can get away with. at the other end of the spectrum, check out the eye candy at baccara, super baby, super girls and airport.
avoid:
changing more than $50-100 at the airport. the exchange rates are better in town.
any place that advertises girls who are *not* from thailand.
getting on an empty baht bus, unless you want point-to-point transportation and you're willing to pay 100-200 baht.
spending all your time on walking street or beach road. soi lk and soi buakaow have lots to offer.
the huge seafood restaurants on the east side of walking street. they are tourists traps. you can get the same food for much cheaper.
renting a jet ski. you will get scammed.
eating in the american fast food joints. even if you are not an adventurous eater, there is plenty of good local food. check out the food stalls in the night market on the east side of sua buakaow opposite soi 19.
bunky
Just one addition to Bunky's good advice. At the airport you'll see the booths set up by the different phone service providers once you clear customs. Don't buy a SIM card here as their prices are higher. We walked down one level (or maybe two levels) to a lower level and bought a SIM from a 7-11 there and it was much cheaper. You can also buy a SIM in town.
I've been using the 1-2-Call SIM cards for phone (not internet) use. Does anybody feel one brand of SIM is better than another? I recommend, as others do, trying some Thai street food. It's pretty decent.
On the SIM-card subject: I get my SIM from 7-eleven for B50 (1, 2-call). It comes with B15 "free calls", which isn't much.
Check your balance and keep checking your balance: After a while they offer a deal. 200 mins for B150 valid for 20 days.
I always take that deal. Done so on 5 or 6 trips now. It's the best deal out there I figure.
If you have to use pay phones, always dial 1, 2, 3, 4 before the entire number, including the zero, on land lines or cell, to get a massive instant discount.
F.
I stayed recently at the Areca Lodge. The hotel is quite good though a bit dated. I loved the pools especially the squared one at the Corona building.
The rooms come with a decent breakfast but only available until 10 am and this is a problem is you like freelances at discos like me. The area of Pattaya the hotel is in, is perfect: many bars in Soi Diana and Soi Buakao. A few meters you find Soi Lk metro with a great atmosphere, lots of go go bars, naughty massages and eateries. I just went to Walking Street for the discos. There are plenty of thins to do in this area. A few hundreds meters away you are in Soi Honey with. In my opinion- the best soapie in Pattaya. In spite of the many attractions in the area, live bands, beer bars, karaokes and so on, if your rooms overlooks the back part of the hotel there is not noise to be heard. BUT When I was there in mid February A HUGE CONSTUCTION SITE was under way. They, re starting to build something large (hotel probably) and I suppose it's going to be a permanent source of noise. To be honest while I was there, the stopped in the evening, but they began operating the machinery at 8 in the morning, and while in the pool noises could be heard.
When I checked in I was told not to bring "friends " under 20. All in all a nice hotel, let's see how the construction issue evolves ¿ can somebody staying there now update with the situation?
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1382085]I have stayed at the Queen Vic a number of times. It is smack in the middle of Soi 6. Just walk out the front door and there she blows. I had no issues from any of the times I had stayed there. There is no elevator if that is of an issue for you.[/QUOTE]I consider to stay there also. Do you know if there are any restrictions to let girls of 18 yeas old. I saw someone complained that some hotels let only girls over 20.
If anyone else knows anything about Queen Victoria Inn (
[url]http://www.queenvicpattaya.com/cheap-pattaya-hotel-index.htm[/url]
) , please let me know.
Thanks,
Y__