Amsterdam

Hey all,

Was in Amsterdam for king's night and day. Went to park 118 on Saturday and it was a pretty awful experience. The place was easy enough to find, ring the bell and someone brings you into a room where they show you the women working. I had only 3 options, and I ended up choosing Daria. Apparently she's from Spain but her accent says otherwise. I tried to speak to her in Spanish but she doesn't understand anything. I knew she was from Spain when she didn't know what a siesta is. Anyways, she comes in and starts the immediate upselling. I had already paid for an hour for 120 euros. But for things like kissing, BBBJ, licking, etc she wanted an additional 200. After some discussing back and forth, I decided not to go for it and just get regular service. I paid for the hour so I assumed you get at a minimum 2 pops. But this ***** says it's an additional 50 euro for sex one more time. I've mongered in over 35 countries in multiple cities in each country, and this has only once ever happened (Dominican republic by a puta). Other times women will just say there isn't enough time, although that's sometimes on me because I take too long between recharges but never asked for more money to bang again. I was pretty upset, why did I pay for the hour then? Who lasts the entire hour? Anyways, I ended up paying to reduce the per pop costs, but was pretty upset the second time around. Service was basic and standard, starts off with HJ, CBJ, can FOV but not inside, a couple of positions (she doesn't like being on top and will do it for 1 minute). Her English was awful. Eventually told me she was half Russian but born in Spain to a Spanish mother. When I left, the mamasan asks if everything was good, I say no. She asks why, and I asked if buying 1 hour only means sex once? And she says its up to the girl and you need to discuss that with her. Then why tf am I paying first before discussions can happen? Regardless, avoid at all costs! There are so many hotter women who do so much more for less around Europe and the world. Come here for the novelty and tourist attraction that it is, but Amsterdam is not a mongering destination.

Have 6 hours layover in Amsterdam, would like to find a place or area where I can get 2 rounds with about 1 HR rest in between.

Since it's during the day time, RLD would be quiet I assume, or is it not? In Spain or Germany there are reliable houses / club where you can go and price is listed with certain level of service standard, is there such place in Amsterdam?

I would otherwise probably spend time sightseeing the scenery in downtown and check out some museums if no good options available during the day. Thanks.

Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/€70,45/€100,60/€120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked €50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.

[QUOTE=Jack060;2693518]Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/70,45/100,60/120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked 50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.[/QUOTE]Most Bulgarian women are cold as working girls. They really don't like what they do. Many are well educated but make much more in Amsterdam than they would at home working within their profession. Smoking is very common and many reek of cigarettes.

Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.

[QUOTE=Jack060;2693518]Went to park 118 for the first time. The madam is welcoming. But only 1 girl available.

[URL]https://www.privehuis118amsterdam.nl/en/Women/nicolle[/URL]

30/70,45/100,60/120.

I chose 45. Should do 30 minutes tho.

Nicolle is from Bulgaria, 1.8 m, thin, with a pretty face, blonde hair, beautiful legs and small natural boobs.

She smoke and asked 50 for kissing so I just went for the basic. Just some touching, BJ and then straight to sex. Not the ideal experience but she's hot enough to do so. She didn't want to talk that much after it so everything ended in 30 minutes and I let her go. Would probably do just 30 minutes next time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, from your physical description of her just what I want. The kissing and talking dint interest me, I am cool with laying there and recovering and getting a shower, then back to the hotel.

[QUOTE=CharlesCo255;2693670]Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.[/QUOTE]Given that you have € to burn allegedly, why don't you just rock up to the Kamer of the hottest lady you can find and slap a couple of grand on the table and tell her to do her best? That'll burn a hole in your pocket in no time.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2693804]Given that you have to burn allegedly, why don't you just rock up to the Kamer of the hottest lady you can find and slap a couple of grand on the table and tell her to do her best? That'll burn a hole in your pocket in no time.[/QUOTE]What's a Kamer and how do I find these hottest ladies? Explain like I'm a complete noob.

[QUOTE=CharlesCo255;2693670]Does anyone know where to find higher end girls in AMS, for example, the equivalent of a 1 k / HR escort in the US? Cost isn't really a factor for me cause I'm willing to splurge on this trip. Seems like everything I've read about AMS is an upsell.[/QUOTE]This is the group with the most favorable reviews on sites geared toward the "higher end".

[URL]https://www.dreamsanddesires.nl/high-class-escortdames/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2694066]This is the group with the most favorable reviews on sites geared toward the "higher end".

[URL]https://www.dreamsanddesires.nl/high-class-escortdames/[/URL][/QUOTE]Send me to the middle class, the starting price is almost half of what I pay for one of my EClass, 3 vistió and that's a car payment LOL. Enjoy brother, I will be glad when I can get back to Barcelona, Mexico or Colombia.

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2694382]Send me to the middle class, the starting price is almost half of what I pay for one of my EClass, 3 visti and that's a car payment LOL. Enjoy brother, I will be glad when I can get back to Barcelona, Mexico or Colombia.[/QUOTE]I agree, but the guy wasn't getting serious answers to his very specific question, so I jumped in.

But there is food for thought. The government has dictated how the market should work in the Netherlands by establishing incall geared toward very short-time sessions in the red light district. So the relatively few outcall escorts charge a hefty premium. The governments is the three countries you mention step back and let the market determine everything. So you get a better result.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2694394]The government has dictated how the market should work in the Netherlands by establishing incall geared toward very short-time sessions in the red light district. [/QUOTE]The government has nothing to do with the duration of the sessions in the red light district, or anywhere else. That is completely up to the girls (or in some cases their pimps).

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2693567]Most Bulgarian women are cold as working girls. They really don't like what they do. Many are well educated but make much more in Amsterdam than they would at home working within their profession. Smoking is very common and many reek of cigarettes.[/QUOTE]I agree. Bulgarians are awful and they love scamming people with upcharges, bad service, and rushing clients.

They know that no monger wants to complain to the police over being scammed by a prostitute, so once you enter their room, you're screwed. They smoke, many have beer bellies they cover with very tight panties.

And the worse thing is, you sometimes can't really tell they're Bulgarian until you've already agreed to the session.

I'm sure 15-20 years ago, the European monger scene was much better with more variety, but now it's largely Bulgarians, Romanians, and Gypsies.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2694541]The government has nothing to do with the duration of the sessions in the red light district, or anywhere else. That is completely up to the girls (or in some cases their pimps).[/QUOTE]Not directly, but the existence of government-approved incall in large facilities, along with permitting foreigners from poor countries establishes a "culture."

The scene in The Netherlands, Germany, and in Curaçao (before the place there went out of business) is different than countries where large-facility incall doesn't exist.

If the red-light district didn't exist in Amsterdam, and if foreigners could not participate as easily in the commercial sex industry, I think you would find more one-hour GFE sessions from local ladies. Those one-hour GFE sessions would be more expensive than the red-light district prices, but less expensive than they are now.

Just my opinion, and my observations after studying different European markets. A person valuing BBBJ and GFE can get a much better half-hour session in Spain or Portugal even for incall than in the Netherlands, but the scene is spread out all over the major cities, and the governments largely ignore the commercial sex industry, with the exception of Barcelona's never-ending shutdowns of Asian Houses. Portugal shut-down the large Michelle's brothel years ago for immigration issues. And behind the scenes, I suspect that the Madrid police hassles Romanians. There are a few in Vive, but most can be found in the large clubs near the French border. So "largely-ignore" doesn't mean "completely ignore". They keep places from getting too big / too visible, and they limit workers from certain countries. It seems prejudiced as hell sometimes. Spain is full of ladies from South America and Central America, and Portugal has a lot of Brazilians, but both countries have the majority of the ladies being from Spain and Portugal.

It is a common occurrence for new posters to ask about the availability of blonde, busty, blue-eyed Dutch and German ladies. They simply don't exist at large-facility incalls in Germany and The Netherlands, unless they have drug issues, which will knock their looks down in a hurry if it hasn't already. They exist in the high-end escort world, at high prices but often without offering much in terms of true GFE. The proliferation of a large low-end market destroys the "middle-class" market, and doesn't really do that much for the "high-end" market either.

There is a consequence to putting a giant Wal-Mart in a USA City, particularly if it primarily employs immigrants from Mexico and Central America. Those same principles apply to the commercial sex work scene in The Netherlands and Germany. There are simply better places for the guy asking about "high-end" GFE outcall (and incall) escorting to go instead of Amsterdam. Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom are all better. Some of the best United Kingdom GFE outcall is from the Romanians with Diva Escorts, but that is a higher-level Romanian lady than the ones doing low-price incall at large facilities in The Netherlands or Germany.

I was in the RLD around 2 years ago and spotted a window girl around 25, curvy blonde, who said she was Hungarian. I asked for BJ and fuck 15-20 minutes and she said €50 so in I went, the BJ ended up as covered as it slipped my mind to ask beforehand if it was or not.

So reading your report do these window girls try to upsell once your in even after you have agreed at the door? Also your prices seemed high? Maybe it has changed since pre covid?

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2691649]Ok so here's my report:

7 pm, dead and nothing really notable. So I got back to my hotel to rest and charge my phone.

10 pm, lively, super packed, and most windows are full. I made countless trips around the entire RLD to find stunners. I would say there's really only about 4-5 total worth seeing but that's up to your wallet.

1st girl, Bulgaria, 100% scammed me. Told me fuck and blow was 100 euros then proceeded to upcharge for time, taking her clothes off, blowjob, sex, etc. So I just left. Also very rushed and didn't allow me to even pull my entire pants off. Probably about the worst experience one can expect but they hide it because they're very welcoming at first and they literally let you right in their door. Oh well, it happens.

2nd girl, Spaniard, petite with fake bolt bolt ONS but clearly more transparent with her pricing. She also accepted credit card. The service was a little better, great BJ, decent fuck, good conversation. She asked 50 e for a blow and 100 e for fuck. Ultimately a far more better experience. Also to note, some women upcharge you if you want to switch position..[/QUOTE]