Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1443321]I don't know Pattaya. Its cheaper but likely to be less classy girls there. BKK is certainly still cheap in comparison to FKK. Taking a girl for 2 hours could cost you about 50-60 Euros. All night for 100 Euros. I have great fun taking two or three girls at a time from Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy for Bi-sexual action, where as I do not take more than a single girl per time in FKK. Lesbian show at Suzi Wong is worth seeing. Oily Massage and Soapy massage places are more hit and miss, so check reviews in the forum. Even though BKK is more hit and miss than FKK overall, its cheap enough that if you get the wrong girl, just kick her out, and go get another one.[/QUOTE]I've got enough airmiles for a free ticket to Germany (60k airmiles). I looked and to fly my ass to Bangkok and back is 65k airmiles. Funny thing is the flight lands in Frankfurt before continuing on to Bangkok. My thoughts are to use the airmiles and then try to extend my stay in Frankfurt. Even if I have to pay $100 to change the flight it would be worth it to kill two birds with one stone. As to the cost the sex is about the same, your just getting more time for your money. But the scene does look interesting enough to check out at least once.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1443125]To elaborate, what was not evident in the youtube video is that once the girls have lured you into into shop, there will be bouncers guarding the door which you then cannot exit without paying an exhorbitant sum of money for drinks. The large 'fish tank' establishments (they have more rooms than Oase, Palace or Artemis) are safe, as they are more open and there are large numbers of customers.[/QUOTE]I've been reading the Thailand forum and watching some youtube video's and there is a video where your given advice on what to do, etc. One key piece of advice was to always stay in the main bar, never go up any stairs to a hidden area. Guy in the video said they'll try to get you up to see a ping pong ball being shot out of some girls vagina and say you have to buy two 100 baht drinks. But the bill will come back saying its 6, 000 bahts for two drinks. This might be what your thinking of.

[QUOTE=Monopoly;1443167]Saw some videos of Nana parking lot freelancers on the Internet. The video was recent and many of the freelancers looked attractive. My question is what are the ST / LT rates (do they even go long time?). And do thy usually give good service or are their many con artist amongst them?[/QUOTE]Someone posted the same video here recently. I wonder if Harold has seen it yet and how he graded them. LOL.

With a simple & accurate reply, let me save you many hours reading the forums (RTF) for the answer to your queries, which would be like looking for a needle in the haystack.

Generally the price for ST is 1000 baht. It has been unchanged & like that since 2007, at least, unlike the ever changing gogo scene. Some girls may ask 1200 or 1500, especially if they are very hot (like top 3 Rainbow 4 material). With a little bargaining skills you may find you can bring the price down. I once had a girl bring it down three times from 1500 to 1000 in less than 30 seconds. If the occasional girl quotes you 2000, feel free to laugh in her face.

Regarding LT I haven't done that in years, & it may be going out of style, but all things are possible. I'm sure some girls will do it, especially if they like you or you make it worth their time. Depnding on various factors like how many hours you expect them to spend with you & what you require them to do, you could work with 2000 baht as a rough figure.

Concerning good service that would depend on your definition of the term. I'd say your odds are better than in a gogo where you'll pay 3 times as much. But again it largely depends on you and your manners as to what you will get & sometimes I've run into con artists. Fortunately you pay these girls after a session, so if they have provided no service or not lived up to what you agreed to with them beforehand, feel free to not pay them anything or pay them according to what they deserve. You can warn them of this in advance. It's easy enough to throw a lame assed fish back into the pond and pick up another one who will probably make you happy.

If the con artist says her mouth is too tired to continue a BBBJ after 2 minutes, tell her your hand is too lazy to get your wallet.

If she agreed before to a 30 minute BBBJ but only does 10 minutes, then maybe pay her 300 baht or nothing. Up to you.

To encourage her to give an amazing BBBJ instead of a lousy one, you could offer her a big tip if she gives excellent service.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1443106]I was looking at some of the photo's guys put up in the Thailand section and to be honest I wasn't too impressed.[/QUOTE]I had the same kind of reaction before I went to Brazil the first time. I never would have gone if I had relied on the pics of many others. Well, I finally did go and was blown away by the experience. And I learned a valuable lesson. Never decide whether or not to go to a place on a mongering trip based on somebody else's ugly pics! Some guys have taste. Some don't. Those that don't? They'll travel halfway around the world and still end up with a dog. And they think they've found Heaven! There were a number of attractive girls in that clip you posted. Those are the ones that a gentlemen with taste would be humping on. Not the ones in the ugly pics you see.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1443363]As to the cost the sex is about the same, your just getting more time for your money. But the scene does look interesting enough to check out at least once.

I've been reading the Thailand forum and watching some youtube video's and there is a video where your given advice on what to do, etc. One key piece of advice was to always stay in the main bar, never go up any stairs to a hidden area. Guy in the video said they'll try to get you up to see a ping pong ball being shot out of some girls vagina and say you have to buy two 100 baht drinks. But the bill will come back saying its 6, 000 bahts for two drinks. This might be what your thinking of.[/QUOTE]You say cost of the sex is the same. This is somewhat true if you are a 30 minute quickie enthusiast although can get a quickie for half the price when consider all the overheads. As I like to take long sessions with girls, Thailand is far cheaper than FKK for me.

The rip off type bars are in Pat Pong district. I haven't seen this for years as haven't been there except to known "good" bars. In Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, no one will try to sting you. So as long as stick to the right bar areas, there is no problem at all. Going upstairs, not a problem. Okay customers are not so welcome, if they try to watch many shows and sit on a single drink for the entire night, taking up valuable seating space, but this only applies to the stingiest type of guys you can find. Any reasonable customer will be well treated.

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1443350]I didn't jump on the bandwagon of bashing you yet, but if you could just stop posting two-liners of non-sense or no-content that would be great.[/QUOTE]Marcos,

Harald444 is what Jackson called a "serial antagonist", years ago, when Jackson stilled cared about the forum.

Besides the fact that most of Harold's posts are replies and have no content at all he is just enjoying that people react to his stupid nonsense. He does not know much about Thailand. You just proofed it. And - the ISG is not the first forum he is penetrating with his nonsense.

The best what readers can do is to simply ignore his posts or add him to their ignore list. And DON'T REPLY AT ALL. If he does not get any attention he will disappear. He is definitely not worth a reply. Just another complete idiot.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1443324]What you refer to sounds like the Pat pong of several years ago. They have tried to rip me off many years ago but I refused. I don't go there anymore. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are safe.[/QUOTE]That certainly does sound more like Patpong but Nana and Soi Cowboy are a different breed. Right now Cowboy is losing favor. There're a number of clubs there managed byt someone colourfully referred to as "The Arab" and he's turned these clubs into Coyote bars, more for the Arabic or Japanese customers. You'll get pulled in with hotties at the door but what ends up happening is that you'll spend plenty of dosh on lady drinks and the girl will never leave the establishment. Google "Soi Cowboy" with "The Arab" and see what I mean.

I've been going down there for nearly a decade now and watched the changes closely.

Right now, if you want to party in Bangkok, Nana is the place....but who only wants to party in Bangkok? Some people say that Pattaya doesn't have the the same beautiful women, and then they'd be wrong. The are far more gogos, dance clubs, massage parlours, blowjob bars or beer bars (or blowjob AND beer bars) with all variety of women available in Patts. It's also less expensive and has a (crap) beach, but there are golf courses, water parts, movies, beer bars...did I mention beer bars? :) Also don't be a putz and overspend - Bangkok Gogo girls wil get 2.5-3K baht longtime, 1.5-2K baht shortime; knock about 1K off each number in Pattaya. There are some great blow-job bars on the 6 that do ST for 600 baht.

Yes - there are girls who think themselves stunners and want more - but guess what? There's another pretty woman right behind the first, and if you have to haggle on price you're not going to have a good time in the room. There are plenty who'll take 1.5K-2K longtime and be very happy with it.

When I hit town I usually monger down there and give Bangkok a miss. AMA.

[QUOTE=Marcos;1443350]Use your eyes, the luxury cars parked outside the best Bangkok soapies (remember these cost 4 times their price in Western countries, but that in Thailand the average wage is 4 times smaller) , indicates that their owners, parked inside between a pro's legs, are hardly low in the social ladder. Unless you believe that is Skogies and Sir Lancelot driving them all. It also happens that sometime these rich men take a fancy on a girl and set her up as mistress or "Mia Noi", giving her all what she wants.[/QUOTE]Many of our countries have pushed us into a corner of the lowest of the low in terms of social morality. Mongers and providers are one of the groups at the bottom. The group is populated by those with luxury cars and most have no car at all.

You guys are talking about two different social ladders.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1443376]Someone posted the same video here recently. I wonder if Harold has seen it yet and how he graded them. LOL.

With a simple & accurate reply, let me save you many hours reading the forums (RTF) for the answer to your queries, which would be like looking for a needle in the haystack.

Generally the price for ST is 1000 baht. It has been unchanged & like that since 2007, at least, unlike the ever changing gogo scene. Some girls may ask 1200 or 1500, especially if they are very hot (like top 3 Rainbow 4 material). With a little bargaining skills you may find you can bring the price down. I once had a girl bring it down three times from 1500 to 1000 in less than 30 seconds. If the occasional girl quotes you 2000, feel free to laugh in her face...[/QUOTE]PinkPearl, thanks, this is exactly the kind of info I'm looking for. Haven't been to Thailand in years and have been reading (with great sorry) of the decline of the scene there (especially in Pattaya and go-go's in particular)

I hope to have some reports for the forum in the near future!

[QUOTE=Giotto;1443388]Harold444 is what Jackson called a "serial antagonist", years ago, when Jackson stilled cared about the forum. Besides the fact that most of Harold's posts are replies and have no content at all he is just enjoying that people react to his stupid nonsense. He does not know much about Thailand. The best what readers can do is to simply ignore his posts or add him to their ignore list. And DON'T REPLY AT ALL. If he does not get any attention he will disappear. He is definitely not worth a reply. Just another complete idiot. Giotto[/QUOTE]While I do whole-heartedly agree with what you say about our unfortunate friend Harold, it should also be remembered that this is a forum to exchange information. If we all ignore him then newcomers may actually believe the nonsense he comes out with.

Also those people who have put him on their 'ignore list' are missing out massively. His reports on his current trip are comedy gold.

A month in Bangkok, he visits Rainbow 4 nearly every night and he's had just one 50 minute short-time so far. He describes the lucky girl in question as his favourite (in his words '7 months of adoring her and paying good baht for the privilege'). Mr Prolific bar-fines her and heading back to his hotel he remarks to her that if she continues to put on restrictions (apparently she 'cut off all access to her nipples') he will be 'ready and willing to barfine number 84'. I'll hand over to Harold to describe how it panned out: "She stopped cold in her tracks. In the taxi all of a sudden she wasn't the pleasent girl she was 10 minutes earlier. This is where I think I found out why she reacts the way she does sometimes. She is a low self-esteem kind of person."

Seems he's as charismatic in real life as he is on this forum!

G'day mates.

Having problems trying to hook up with girls on TLL (Thai Love Links).

All of them just want to marry a farang. Now we would obviously want to try several before we buy.

Any tips on the types of profiles to look for and what to say to bed them first and make up my mind over time?

Thanks Heaps

GF just told me of an incident, perhaps on Sukhumvit near the Thong Lo area? May have happened this last Saturday or Sunday.

Taxi driver and farang passenger got into a fight, supposedly over the princely sum of 60 baht. Passenger accused driver of cheating him. Driver objected. Passenger threw coffee onto driver. Driver escalates and pulls knife, stabs and kills the passenger.

Anybody heard of this? True story? Embellished?

What idiot gets into a pissing contest over 2usd?