Monterrey

[QUOTE=El Cazador; 1124646]Somebody mention here before our casinos. There are maybe over 20 casinos but not all have the card games. I believe that none have the dice. Our casinos are normally safe but in the last month the armed thieves have rob two casinos. I avise you to be careful when you leave the casino and try to have your own personal cab that you have the confidence with.

Yesterday 7 armed thieves rob a restaurant of 100 clients and make some of the woman get naked and create the harm to others. This is a new tipo of crime here as the thieves know that the police is too busy for the fast response.

I do not recommend a solo gringo come here and get drunk in el centro and stay into the morning hours. [/QUOTE]These are some good stats. How many were Cornholed? That is the part that scares me.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob;1126264]Personally, I believe the solutions are beyond human comprehension, and will require divine intervention...Really![/QUOTE]Well with the cartel having enough finances to bribe officials at all levels, corrupt the entire police force of major cities, purchase weaponry that makes the military jealous, maybe divine intervention is the only answer.

But we know that isn't going to happen, never has, never will.

When the Mexican government finally admits they are beat, then other options must be explored.

Maybe the military chipping away will finally produce a favorable result, but then maybe not. Every time a king pin is taken down, someone less competent takes his place, more savage than the guy he replaced.

There are ways to beat this, but allowing corrupt police forces to continue isn't one of them.

"purchase weaponry that makes the military jealous"

There is one simple single little fact you seem not to know: narcs do not know how to use the weapons they buy. They do not know how to take care of them, nothing.

Military jealous?

Boy are you so wrong in this. So WRONG.

Now I really know you do not read a single tidbit of news coming out of Mexico, Bbond.

The narcs FLEE when ever they bump into the army, even with numeric supperiorty of 2 or 3-1 they FLEE.

And even with higher number of weapons, every singl narc that faces the army, they simply are killed.

[QUOTE=Bbond; 1126300]Well with the cartel having enough finances to bribe officials at all levels, corrupt the entire police force of major cities, purchase weaponry that makes the military jealous, maybe divine intervention is the only answer.

But we know that isn't going to happen, never has, never will.

When the Mexican government finally admits they are beat, then other options must be explored.

Maybe the military chipping away will finally produce a favorable result, but then maybe not. Every time a king pin is taken down, someone less competent takes his place, more savage than the guy he replaced.

There are ways to beat this, but allowing corrupt police forces to continue isn't one of them. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monterreydude; 1126325]"purchase weaponry that makes the military jealous"

There is one simple single little fact you seem not to know: narcs do not know how to use the weapons they buy. They do not know how to take care of them, nothing.

The narcs FLEE when ever they bump into the army, even with numeric supperiorty of 2 or 3-1 they FLEE. [/QUOTE]
I probably read as much as you do, I read several online papers daily.

What I was referring to is the ability and resources are available. Read, again, the first seven words of the original post. That hardly implies their superiority in firefights.
Surely most lack expertise in the use and care of the weapons they have.
I understand the narcs flee, many are untrained, hired, expendable, street thugs, doped up, forced to do the dirty work. They seldom out number the military, and when they do, flee because they know more is on the way.
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[url]http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2011/02/guns_used_in_me.php[/url]

In recent years the cartels, especially their enforcer groups such as Los Zetas, Gente Nueva and La Linea, have been increasingly using military weaponry instead of sporting arms. A close examination of the arms seized from the enforcer groups and their training camps clearly demonstrates this trend toward military ordnance, including many weapons not readily available in the United States. Some of these seizures have included M60 machine guns and hundreds of 40 mm grenades obtained from the military arsenals of countries like Guatemala.
But Guatemala is not the only source of such weapons. Latin America is awash in weapons that were shipped there over the past several decades to supply the various insurgencies and counterinsurgencies in the region.
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[url]http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/02/world/la-fg-mexico-gunbattles2-2010apr02[/url]

Traffickers previously have fought with army patrols, but the attempt to blockade garrisons came after weeks of an intense, bloody power struggle between two rival organizations, the Gulf cartel and its erstwhile paramilitary allies, the Zetas, to control the region bordering South Texas.
Part of the strategy of Tuesday's assaults may have been to prevent the army from patrolling, to give the drug gangs a freer hand in their fight against each other.
"This really speaks to the incredible organization and firepower that the drug-trafficking organizations have managed to muster," said Tony Payan, a border expert at the University of Texas at El Paso. "These are organizations that are flexible, supple and quick to react and adapt. They no doubt represent a challenge to the Mexican state."

@Beavis.

The only person dead is the owner who is killed two days after in Culiacáand. The news later report that the woman were violated sexually in other areas of the restaurant and the men were beat and robbed. Others here suggest that the violence here is not going to stop. Many here in monterrey believe the same. When you read or see people shot or killed in front of a store or house these people fail to pay the protection money to the narcos. Everybody that live here know somebody that was to be kidnapped, killed, beaten, or made to pay the money. This tipo of crime was not happening three year before.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob; 1112218]Your post was dead-on. I will add just a few things to your list:

*Sit in the back seat of the cab at all times, unless you know the driver well. You will have better control of circumstances should you hail a taxi driver that has robbery, or worse, on his mind. From the back seat, if they take off in the wrong direction, and you begin to realize they're placing you in danger, you can choke them out if need be. This scenario is NOT common with taxis. 99% are safe. It has only happened to me once. But, once was too much for me, and I have adopted this practice, especially now since the petty criminals run around with less scrutiny from authorities because the authorities have bigger fish to fry these days.

*Moneda: Collect a bag of coins that you can use for exact change with taxis, or keep a supply of 20 peso bills handy. There are far too many taxis that do not carry sufficient change. Anything over 50 pesos is too large a bill for many of them to deal with.

*If you're planning to come back to Monterrey often, purchase a Mexico phone, and charge it with some saldo (minutes) , so you can send and receive text messages from the girls. That way, you control the information that passes between you and the girl, but you're true identity, and your legitimate phone numbers, are kept secret from the girls, totally separated from your real life.

*Assume an alias when you fraternize with the girls. Keep everything in your personal life separate from what you're doing in Monterrey. Everyone will think they know who they're dealing with, but they really haven't got a clue.

*At your first opportunity after arriving in Monterrey, make an effort to visit a money changer so you can have a selection of lower denomination bills. I recommend that you not have bills that are over the 200 peso denomination in your possession when visiting the bars, and that you preferably pay with bills using the lowest common denominator bills possible. I always make the effort to have a bunch of 20 peso bills (saving them for taxi fare) , and some 50 peso. 100 peso, and 200 peso bills are reserved for the bars, with the 100 peso bill seeming to be the safest denomination with respect to your not getting cheated by the waiters when they bring you your change.

*If you're a relative newbie in Monterrey, do not run a tab, unless you're with an experienced resident of Monterrey who is already well known to the management, and can discern the little attempts at larceny by the waiters. Always pay for the drinks as your order them.

*If you ignore the advice to pay as you go, and you do run a tab, make the waiter repeat back every single charge rather than just showing you a total. They love to come to your dark table, and using a flash light to illuminate a total amount, with no itemized charges being represented on the tab. Even my trustee waiters are famous for just showing total amounts, and spending very little time on the exact charges. About 60% of the time, on those rare occasions that I do run a tab, the bill is "mistakenly" inflated, and I would have paid too much.

* Preferably, exact change, la cuenta + propina, is the best policy when paying for drinks. But, if you can't pay with exact change, especially when you're alone, make a special effort to call attention to the denomination of the bill you're handing to the waiter. I recommend calling very specific attention to the denomination of the bill you're handing the waiter, and making them repeat it back to you before they go off for change. They love to pull the old switcharoo. 200 peso bill becomes a 20 peso bill in the blink of an eye. [/QUOTE]A taxista job is a job that is good and people do not take for granted. These people work many hours a week and can make $800-$1000 pesos after expenses in a 12 hour period. Never in the news or with friends here do you read or hear of taxistas try to rob the clients and there is a reazon for this. A reazon people that live here or spend much time here know of.

A taxista job is like the beéisbol game. Three strikes and you out. If a taxista recieve the complaint from the client he is give first the warning. The second complaint and the taxista lost the license for three months and have a $2500 pesos fine. Three complaints from the clients and the taxista lose the license for permanent and the company is made to pay the government $20000 pesos penalty to get the car back. Generally after one complaint the taxista have the hard time to find the company that give him the opportunity to drive the taxi because he is believe to be a puñeta and a antagonista. Every warning that a taxista recieve from the client is put into the permanent computer system for all to see. You can make the complaint at many locations in the city and any taxista will tell you where. I believe that some taxista may try to drive you around to make the rate higher but you can simply get out and find one more and not have to make the violence and be a antagonista.

Now if you behave like a gringo pendejo and attempt a Bruce Lee kungfu choke out move you will end up in jail or maybe something worse. Taxistas have the together friendship and if a taxista see another taxista in a Bruce Lee kungfu choke, he going to stop and help the other taxista. You have a good chance to recieve much pain and that maybe end in the hospital.

I suppose the moral of the story is that if you take the avice of a puñeta you may end up to be a pendejo.

i am mexicano, but i live in us. i have familia living in monterrey. i visit bars in monterrey since i was young like you say 20-30 but, now i have 64 years, but i see novia that have only 27 years para mucho tiempo- i see her over seis anos. you offend all of us that not hve under 30 years old, and you say we not able to see young woman? yu loco mi amigo. you offend all us that see their young girlfriends and visit bars by saying that we are too old. but we are not finis like you say. young men are too ingenuo, and think men that have more than 30 years are wash up. some think because they are yong, they understand woman, and are better than old man with woman. talk to me when you have 65 anos, and we see what you think.

i read what unspongebob say, why el es correcto girls in bars call all us mamon, stupido, bobo and many things worse. he mean they call all hombres en los bars these names, and he understand that many are bad girl. he say this caus some girls are ladrones, and he konw it. but he also no some girsl are good girls- and they give good servicios. he no some girls are verdad.

he no that some girl like man older than young man because 2 things, they want dinero an they like experiencia. we all know this about bars and you must not visit bars if you not no this. hay milliones chavos viejos con exito en los bars con chavas muy joven.

if you want visit colinas, and you no want salidas fine. spongebob want salida, and he konw want go in club and spend money on chavas en el bar. he want girl on salida en lugar.

i think bars en elcentro safe too. es peligroso en la calle in monterrey en la noche. ****, i go monterrey every weekend. things are more peligroso en mexico than hace 3 anos **** bars safe. why yu not say la verdad? maybe cause yu not visit los bars en elcentro. [/quote]no mexicano that speak the spanish would ever call the woman ladrones. they are ladronas. only a gringo would say ladrones.

there are many other examples same as this when you make the mistake and i do not want to make the fight and want to respect the moderator and the foro.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob; 1041910]Actually, you have it the other way around.

Monterreydude is my pet dog..)

Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woff, Here boy, here boy, here boy, here Chester, here Chester, here Chester.

I think I'll turn into a troll too. Bring it on baby! . [/QUOTE]@unspongebob.

You are a antagonista, here you intimidate forum member Chester Boy and treat him like a dog.

i am mexicano, but i live in us. i have familia living in monterrey. i visit bars in monterrey since i was young like you say 20-30 but, now i have 64 years, but i see novia that have only 27 years para mucho tiempo- i see her over seis anos. you offend all of us that not hve under 30 years old, and you say we not able to see young woman? yu loco mi amigo. you offend all us that see their young girlfriends and visit bars by saying that we are too old. but we are not finis like you say. young men are too ingenuo, and think men that have more than 30 years are wash up. some think because they are yong, they understand woman, and are better than old man with woman. talk to me when you have 65 anos, and we see what you think.

i read what unspongebob say, why el es correcto girls in bars call all us mamon, stupido, bobo and many things worse. he mean they call all hombres en los bars these names, and he understand that many are bad girl. he say this caus some girls are ladrones, and he konw it. but he also no some girsl are good girls- and they give good servicios. he no some girls are verdad.

he no that some girl like man older than young man because 2 things, they want dinero an they like experiencia. we all know this about bars and you must not visit bars if you not no this. hay milliones chavos viejos con exito en los bars con chavas muy joven.

if you want visit colinas, and you no want salidas fine. spongebob want salida, and he konw want go in club and spend money on chavas en el bar. he want girl on salida en lugar.

i think bars en elcentro safe too. es peligroso en la calle in monterrey en la noche. ****, i go monterrey every weekend. things are more peligroso en mexico than hace 3 anos **** bars safe. why yu not say la verdad? maybe cause yu not visit los bars en elcentro. [/quote]@unspongbob.

you are mangas colaradas, no mexicano would call the woman ladrones they are ladronas. only the grinog would make this mistake.

Why is it Bbond that you can't accept the universal fact that people, evil people, not the good American citizens, are selling guns to narcs in Mexico?

Every single country in the world knows that the biggest gun runners in the world are the US, Russia and China (illegal gun running, not LEGAL as in "I will go to Walmart to buy an assault weapon").

Why is it you just can't accept the fact?

[QUOTE=Bbond; 1126350]I probably read as much as you do, I read several online papers daily.

What I was referring to is the ability and resources are available. Read, again, the first seven words of the original post. That hardly implies their superiority in firefights.

Surely most lack expertise in the use and care of the weapons they have.

I understand the narcs flee, many are untrained, hired, expendable, street thugs, doped up, forced to do the dirty work. They seldom out number the military, and when they do, flee because they know more is on the way.

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[url]http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2011/02/guns_used_in_me.php[/url]

In recent years the cartels, especially their enforcer groups such as Los Zetas, Gente Nueva and La Linea, have been increasingly using military weaponry instead of sporting arms. A close examination of the arms seized from the enforcer groups and their training camps clearly demonstrates this trend toward military ordnance, including many weapons not readily available in the United States. Some of these seizures have included M60 machine guns and hundreds of 40 mm grenades obtained from the military arsenals of countries like Guatemala.

But Guatemala is not the only source of such weapons. Latin America is awash in weapons that were shipped there over the past several decades to supply the various insurgencies and counterinsurgencies in the region.

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[url]http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/02/world/la-fg-mexico-gunbattles2-2010apr02[/url]

Traffickers previously have fought with army patrols, but the attempt to blockade garrisons came after weeks of an intense, bloody power struggle between two rival organizations, the Gulf cartel and its erstwhile paramilitary allies, the Zetas, to control the region bordering South Texas.

Part of the strategy of Tuesday's assaults may have been to prevent the army from patrolling, to give the drug gangs a freer hand in their fight against each other.

"This really speaks to the incredible organization and firepower that the drug-trafficking organizations have managed to muster," said Tony Payan, a border expert at the University of Texas at El Paso."These are organizations that are flexible, supple and quick to react and adapt. They no doubt represent a challenge to the Mexican state."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=La Parca; 1090866]Several weeks ago, I flagged down a taxi on Madero, and after he dropped my girl off back at her bar, I asked him to take me to El Infinito. He began driving in the opposite direction, West on Madero instead of back East again toward El Infinito.

I don't know what he had in mind. Maybe nothing more than just to run up the bill, but possibly something much worse. Maybe he was going to rob me, who knows. We were on one of the side streets that runs parallel to Madero, dark, lonely, no traffic, no people, and headed further into the darkness.

Except, fortunately for me, there was a guy crossing the street and the taxi had to stop in order to avoid hitting him. I unlocked the door, jumped out, and the guy started in on me, telling me that I owed him 30 pesos. I threw the 30 pesos at him, and started walking, asking him in Spanish just were the hell he thought he was taking me.

My advice, always sit behind the driver, not in the front seat next to him. Always think to keep the upper hand in all that you do, no matter whether you're dealing with taxis or girls. With girls, it depends on whether they've attained trustee status. But, everything else, stay sharp!

With the taxis, sit behind the driver so all you have to do if you get in a jam is choke the asshole out. Don't let them have the upper hand or you might actually end up on the outskirts of Monterrey as one of the statistics.

The street crime is up in Monterrey. There's a lot said about the cartels. But, while everybody is focusing on the cartels, and the high visibility of that potential danger, it's very easy to sometimes drop your guard with respect to what I believe is the actual escalated danger to us as we monger, the street crime, and crimes of opportunity. [/QUOTE]@unspongebob.

You and la parca have the same avise to choke out our taxistas and also use the word trustee status in your reports.

[QUOTE=Larbo; 1115188]I believe El Cazador is promoting an agenda that is not consistant with the needs and desires of the members for which this site was established. He will not listen to reason, and continues to return to his initial position of how "horrible" the conditions in Monterrey are.

Your post regarding the Monterrey crime issue, El Cazador's continuing rants, and his complete refusal to listen to what we know to be fact, was well written. I suggest you shorten it slightly, and add a short sentence or two at the beginning explaining that this is to be the standard response to all of the El Cazador rants. Then we can all use it regardless of what issue he raises. We simply paste it as a response for the edification of newbies or infrequent readers. [/QUOTE]@unspongebob.

This is you, no?

[QUOTE=SmithandWesson; 1126174]Long-time lurker, first-time poster.

I am the owner of a multi-million dollar company and have been reading the Monterrey section for years. I have always followed the advice here of Unspongebob, and have come to know that his credibility is well-documented, with many forum members knowing him both in person and through the Private Messaging System.

Truth is, people like El Cazedor, with his hysterical rants, are simply here to sabotage the Monterrey section as they provide not one single tidbit of mongering information, the purpose of the this forum.

Shills such as El Cazador, with a total of ten posts, should not be allowed to freely attack the credibility of Senior Members. Even though most members can discern the lack of credibility of El Cazador and the likes, it should not be tolerated by the forum as it violates the forum rules and it's decorum. Frankly, I could see myself not partaking in the patronage of the ISG if this behavior were allowed to continue, and I believe that many other members here would concur.

As I said, I do not think it's fair for Senior Members such as Unspongebob, who has over 1000 posts, to have to endure the insults of "shills," shills that have NO credibility, not ONE SINGLE post related to mongering, and that bring nothing of substance to the forum.

Hopefully, in the future, the moderator will come to his senses and understand the value, legitimacy and contributions that the Senior Members bring to the forum, because the "shills," shills such as El Cazador, bring nothing at all. [/QUOTE]@unspongebob.

This is you again no? I come here to bring the reports to this foro and only recieve the attacks by you and all you various personalities. I do not want continue as you enjoy to make the fight with me and others and this is not my personality to make the fight. You like the fight too much that even you challenge the fight with the moderator. You are a true antagonista. You and you various personalities can make the fight with someone else.

[QUOTE=Monterreydude; 1126521]Why is it Bbond that you can't accept the universal fact that people, evil people, not the good American citizens, are selling guns to narcs in Mexico?

Every single country in the world knows that the biggest gun runners in the world are the US, Russia and China (illegal gun running, not LEGAL as in "I will go to Walmart to buy an assault weapon").

Why is it you just can't accept the fact? [/QUOTE]When / Where did I ever dispute that?

I dispute that 90% of guns come from the US, as documented by Stratfor, et al.

The president of Mexico has called on the US to control drug use, good luck on that.

He also called for stopping the flow of arms from the US, damn, man wants it both ways.

It's all something he wants someone else to blame and have them try to control.

It's also a know fact the Mexican government, at ALL LEVELS, is corrupt, see him doing much about that?

O come on. An agent is shot in Mexico, so NOW they arrest hundreds of suspects in the US. NOW?

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/25/us/25drugs.html?_r=1&ref=us[/url]

Am not dumb to realize the US is as corrupt as Mexico.

As a matter of fact every single one in the world knows this fact except Americans by themselves....

PS: by the way guys... did you fellas know that the Republicans are slashing funds for border security in their bid to reduce the US deficit???

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-republicans-trim-border-security-budget-calls-resources/story?id=12965031[/url]

Yes indeed.... first to say "secure the borders", first to contradict themselves.