Moscow

Careful Doc, you're dating yourself. I think I'm the only one old enough to remember Fembots. :)

I thank Local Hero, but I want to remind forum members to describe services in sex session because "she was hot" or "memorable meeting" don't mean anything.

Moreover, the Svetlana' trick is usual and I want to keep aware men about no respect from women, in general.

I hope, with you, the new global recession put some respect in female minds but I am not sure because bad habits are very hard to change.

[QUOTE=Local Hero]

Settled on Svetlana, who claimed she works only a night or two per month when she needs the cash. Talked a good game about how she only goes with men she really likes and then gives her all, she's not really a pro, etc. Started at EUR 1000 (!), ended at 500 for an all-night. (Yeah, I know...)

After the first go, she fell fast asleep. In the morning, she awoke, showered, and was on her way out when I came-to and asked her what she was doing. No amount of coaxing would get her back into bed. Said I should have paid 1000 if I wanted two times. Typical NF story, as I gather from other posts [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Jake,

ochyen interyesno... what's the derivation of robotniki?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]I think he meant rAbotniki (работники). As in "workers".[/QUOTE]
Quite right Pizdyets - I successfully butchered a reference to "Rabotnitsa", which was actually a newspaper published by the Bolsheviks meaning "Working Woman". I have been reading "RED VICTORY - The history of the Russian Civil War 1918 - 1921" by Bruce Lincoln. In the section which deals with sexuality of women during the revolution he refers to the publication. It's a heavy reading but packed with all sorts of interesting information. Chapter 10, page 337, paragraph 1, line 6.

Anyhow, I came across that term and I thought "Rabotnitsa" was a cute way of referring to the dyeffki who unabashedly ply their trade with little pretense. As opposed to the "Sponsorfils" who pretend to not do it for the money. Incidentally, I picked up the term "sponsorfil" from sextalk.ru.
And speaking of sponsorship I think this is topic that bears some more detailed discussion but probably more appropriately in the "Dating Russian Women" category. I will collect my thoughts and post a thread on a topic which has recently become one of some interest to me.

Was in Moscow last week and can confirm that nothing changed in Hotdog, because I read a recent report who questioned that. Business as usual. Hotdog has developed over the past year as often reported here and had upgradad its image. The girls are much better than in the past but still two classes under NF. The same goes for the prices. You will find lower medium girls to nearly stunners here. The prices for drinks are cheap (130 RUR for a beer).Girls go for $ 200-250 up to your negotiation skill. The overall atmosphere is ok. Professionals are lined up all along the bar and easy to contact. My experiences with the middle class girls are better than with the good looking, because they attitude is not customer oriented.

Another story in NF, because the ratio is totally different and the stunners are the majority of the girls. A perfect place for me since 10 years. If you are lucky, find Alicia, a blond 26 year old stunner, who looks spectaluar. They all ask for € 500 in the beginning and go for € 300 in the majority of the cases.

In both places the mafia taxis outside are a real pain in the ass. To find a girl with a car helps.

Local Hero

You do keep the door locked and keep the key hidden?

Dual purpose here:

One to check valuables prior to the Dev leaving.

The second to insure the Dev performs as per agreement.

The reason the Dev’s pull this Shit is because mongers let them.

The Russian men have spent thousands of years training their women to be obedient and did a great job of it.

In a little over a decade mongers have fucked up a great thing with the nice Western attitudes.

RU women expect to be told what to do. Demands or even commands are not out of line, leave the Western attitudes at home and things get simple.

No coaxing, tell them sternly what to do. They understand and will comply.

You may even ……..Get what you want.

IMHO

Guido88

Local Hero - thanks for an outstanding first post with your high-end strip club update. I'll be honest and say that I only go to these places when entertaining foreign partners who want to remain "faithful" to their wives. As such, I found it curious that you didn't mention even a single lap-dance rate, since lap-dances and drinks are the only things my posse and I purchase in such establishments. As I've written before, strip club pussy is just about the most expensive you can find in Moscow, and even NightFlight can seem inexpensive in comparison. But you did well to point out that "dating" (arranging to meet a girl the next day, etc) is much more cost-effective than strict "take-out" where the rates will be higher and the club must also be paid.

Guido - totally with you on locking the door from the inside and hiding the key. And it's yet another reason why staying in an apartment is better than a hotel.

[QUOTE=Local Hero]I was in Moscow for a week and visited a number of strip clubs during my stay. Since the last rundown is a couple of years old, thought you guys would appreciate an update. Note: I am living in a Russian-speaking country and can converse in the language. Don't think many of the girls in the clubs speak English, so your experience is going to be quite different if you can't manage some Russian.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]
Guido - totally with you on locking the door from the inside and hiding the key. And it's yet another reason why staying in an apartment is better than a hotel.[/QUOTE] Modebly Pizdyets. My recent favorite hiding spot is in the freezer in the ice cube tray.

Funny story - there's still a pretty dev in SPB named Ksenia who is still laughing her head off at the stupid Amerikanits who hit the key so well that he could not find it the next morning. Doh! I wonder who THAT was!!!!!!

I spent 5 nights and 6 days at beloved Moscow and unfortunately seen that most of the clubs lost their magic.

XXX was shut down.

They closed some sections of the White Bear and the show was poor.

Rasputin was a disaster, they charged 1300Rb for dancing girls (slightly topless) and the action was terrible. They charged 800Rb for Jack (It costs 430 Rb at NF)

Kamasutra was closed.

Bordo was a popular spot for expats and tourists. The managers know how to run the club, reasonable prices friendly and hot girls. Tacik and Kazak girls pretended that they were from Chine, I saw one girl from Kamerun and lots of blondikas…

Pena Club (Truckers Strip club) on Kolomenskaya was my favorite club for this time. There are only two stages; the club itself is S shaped and very small. 8 girls from Africa, 2 oriental girls and 5-6 blondikas. Two hours long sauna sex cost 8000Rb. If you pay 15000Rb, you may take the girls for 6 hours. [url]http://pena-club.ru[/url] Basement is strip club upstairs is regular club.

Beloved Night Flight lost its magic. First we went there on Thursday night around 23, nearly no clients, lots of and lots of plastic girl (fake lips, fake boobs) I tried to find a natural beauty I found one but she asked 400 Euro for one pop. Secondly we went there on Saturday night after 01, even at that hour there were no customers and girls were chatting each other. They still asked 400 Euro for one pop.

I met 9 girls in 6 days. Instead of spending the nights with girls, I usually met them after 18 for two hour sessions.

Elya is an oriental looking 32 years old Russian girl who has lots of friends and has two secure and clean apartments in Mayakoskaya and Serpukhoovskaya(Brown line). She asks 200$ for two hours. Anal sex is possible and there are no limits. Through her contacts I met 8 more girls. They ask 400$ for all night, 500$ for threesome (2-3 hours long). Most of the girls are late 20s but one girl was barely 18 and another one was 42 years old. I also did mother daughter fantasy with these two. Lesbi show and strap on show was included to the threesome.

Elya speaks English but her friends can't.


Goodman on Tverskaya is a great place for steak dinner. I also love Mama Tao (Chinese restaurant) on Novokuznetskaya. Starlight diner is an American style diner on Mayakoskaya. Molly Gwen’s on Novy Arbat is an expat friendly spot.

There are two Starbucks at Arbat, both crowed and not permitted to smoke.

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]

I met 9 girls, usually for two hour sessions.

Elya is 32 years and asks 200$ for two hours.

Through her contacts I met 8 more girls.

0ne girl was 18.

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You guys can say all you want about Moscow Moscow Moscow, but meeting students who wish to have the sponsor, 18, or 19, is not big problem for me in the provinces. No I did not sleep with every girl I met, but out of 9 that I did meet, only one was NOT 18 or 19.

But meeting them would be a problem, if I did not have and use all the contacts that I've been fortunate to amke over the years, and certainly there have been times, when I do have some problems arranging introductions. Investing time, energy, and resources, to develop these relationships, is what has helped me, to get introduced.

But some of you guys prefer the 42 year olds, right?

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]You guys.

But some of you guys prefer the 42 year olds, right? [/QUOTE]And she was SUPER! I have had 'manicurists' 3 times in a row now. I like the mentality of these ladies. They take care of ALL parts of their bodies.

She had a 'brilliant' implant in her tooth, nice small 'tat' at the top of her 'crack' AND what she called a surprise for me.

A nice SEXY temporary glitter 'tat' at the base of her pubic bone just before the waxed. Baby smooth. Pussy!

She gave me the best body massage I have ever felt! Hard nipples and wett pussy. Ochen Klasna!

She arrived 10pm and we literally stayed in the bedroom until she left 64 hours later.

Ummmm, she just sms'd me at wants to arrive Friday! Let me think. OK!

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra] Investing time, energy, and resources, to develop these relationships, is what has helped me, to get introduced.[/QUOTE]

is what we all need but I am usually lazy...One of my friend got the number of the waitres' at Mama Tao and they will meet sometime this week (He works in Moscow so he has time and resources for such relations.)

Anyway, as they said Cash is King, Sky is the limit...:)

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]XXX was shut down.[/QUOTE]

They've been undergoing "remont" for forever. In this economic climate, I wouldn't be too hopeful that it'll ever reopen. Anyway - wasn't ever my favorite place anyway, though they did have kalyan...

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Rasputin was a disaster, they charged 1300Rb for dancing girls (slightly topless) and the action was terrible. They charged 800Rb for Jack (It costs 430 Rb at NF)
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Rasputin has been a disaster as long as I can remember (read: many years). Greedy bitches and horrible management. Avoid at all costs.

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Bordo was a popular spot for expats and tourists. The managers know how to run the club, reasonable prices friendly and hot girls. Tacik and Kazak girls pretended that they were from Chine, I saw one girl from Kamerun and lots of blondikas…
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AJ, you must make a good deal more than I do, cuz I did not find Bordo's prices reasonable. Russian-brewed "imported" beer for a ruble a gram? It should be a crime. Quality of the girls there is best I've seen in town, though. And like you said, shapes and sizes to please almost anyone. Reminds me of the old Spearmint Rhino (where Deja Vu is now). Speaking of Deja Vu, I kinda like its chill-out vibe, but it's not cheap. 1K to enter, and 1K per private dance (only 1 song, though 2-for-1, 3-for-1 promotions offered as "stimulus packages" to free up vital monetary liquidity). No lap dances offered in situ, and privates dances are what you negotiate: kissing, titty sucking standard, but HJ, DATY even BBBJ if the tip is big enough. Only wish you could do the waitresses, because they're by far the cutest girls in the place.

[QUOTE]
Pena Club (Truckers Strip club) on Kolomenskaya was my favorite club for this time. There are only two stages; the club itself is S shaped and very small. 8 girls from Africa, 2 oriental girls and 5-6 blondikas. Two hours long sauna sex cost 8000Rb. If you pay 15000Rb, you may take the girls for 6 hours. [url]http://pena-club.ru[/url] Basement is strip club upstairs is regular club.
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I've seen this place so many times and always tempted to hit it, just cuz it looks soooo seedy. Now I [B]must[/B] visit!

[QUOTE]
Beloved Night Flight lost its magic. First we went there on Thursday night around 23, nearly no clients, lots of and lots of plastic girl (fake lips, fake boobs) I tried to find a natural beauty I found one but she asked 400 Euro for one pop. Secondly we went there on Saturday night after 01, even at that hour there were no customers and girls were chatting each other. They still asked 400 Euro for one pop.
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Yeah, I went for dinner the other night with clients. LOTS of plastic, and very little turnover. Back in the day, you'd see a steady steam of guys leaving with girls. Now it's pretty much only sightseers.

Surprised no one mentioned Oh La La. I went a few times this year and it was decent. Drinks, at least, are cheap as my job in such places is typically drinking, translating for my clients, and telling uglies to get the fuck off my lap.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]They've been undergoing "remont" for forever. In this economic climate, I wouldn't be too hopeful that it'll ever reopen. Anyway - wasn't ever my favorite place anyway, though they did have kalyan...



Rasputin has been a disaster as long as I can remember (read: many years). Greedy bitches and horrible management. Avoid at all costs.



AJ, you must make a good deal more than I do, cuz I did not find Bordo's prices reasonable. Russian-brewed "imported" beer for a ruble a gram? It should be a crime. Quality of the girls there is best I've seen in town, though. And like you said, shapes and sizes to please almost anyone. Reminds me of the old Spearmint Rhino (where Deja Vu is now). Speaking of Deja Vu, I kinda like its chill-out vibe, but it's not cheap. 1K to enter, and 1K per private dance (only 1 song, though 2-for-1, 3-for-1 promotions offered as "stimulus packages" to free up vital monetary liquidity). No lap dances offered in situ, and privates dances are what you negotiate: kissing, titty sucking standard, but HJ, DATY even BBBJ if the tip is big enough. Only wish you could do the waitresses, because they're by far the cutest girls in the place.



I've seen this place so many times and always tempted to hit it, just cuz it looks soooo seedy. Now I [B]must[/B] visit!



Yeah, I went for dinner the other night with clients. LOTS of plastic, and very little turnover. Back in the day, you'd see a steady steam of guys leaving with girls. Now it's pretty much only sightseers.

Surprised no one mentioned Oh La La. I went a few times this year and it was decent. Drinks, at least, are cheap as my job in such places is typically drinking, translating for my clients, and telling uglies to get the fuck off my lap.[/QUOTE]

Anyone hit the New Safari Lodge? I meant to go check it out last week but ran out of time. Too many dates with 49 year olds (that's for Bez's benefit).

[QUOTE=Jake993]Modebly Pizdyets. My recent favorite hiding spot is in the freezer in the ice cube tray.

Funny story - there's still a pretty dev in SPB named Ksenia who is still laughing her head off at the stupid Amerikanits who hit the key so well that he could not find it the next morning. Doh! I wonder who THAT was!!!!!![/QUOTE]


Hey I know that girl…


Kidding, but will admit to on occasion with the proper amount of alcohol and lack of sleep to being geographically challenged as to the exact location of the key for a few minutes in the morning.

Normally kept in the safe but in apartments without safes sometimes things happen.

What’s funny is the Dev’s reaction. Evidently this happens quite a bit, never anger only humor. Again??????

The Dev’s know their role in the game: provide as negotiated, pride in service ability, have orgasms, get paid and leave when directed. Not before, like I said simple.



Pizdeyets

Been in Oh La La, found good quality and full service in a private room with views of the strip show. Not all girls will provide sex but all in all pretty enjoyable.

Still I miss the old Safari.

Guido88

[quote=guido88]kidding, but will admit to on occasion with the proper amount of alcohol and lack of sleep to being geographically challenged as to the exact location of the key for a few minutes in the morning.

guido88[/quote]no kidding, it can be no joke. try being awake for well over 72 hours, running on empty after having downed the umpteenth red bull, having a tobacco & hangover induced headache that fells like your head is about to explode, and then realize, as you pull into a car rental drop-off garage at the airport having just gotten photographed by two speed cameras in a vain attempt to make it to the airport on time, that you entered the wrong airport into your car navigation as the destination.

that is what i call being geographically challenged- arriving an hour before scheduled departure time at a wrong airport and coming to terms with the fact that you have been fucking women for three days straight and now you are royally fucked because your plane departs from an airport some 35 km away. ah, the life of a sex monger.