Rio de Janeiro Reports

116, formerly the secret terma, was a fav of fukafmedig, who came here a few times in 2020.

It was a fave because it always had a top 10% of girls who were porn star quality, as did T31, one of the go to dark side termas, not very far away.

We chatted about it here as the secret terma, then the board members who haven't been here for 2 years, with extra time on their hands figured out it was boate 116.

Why go there?

4 x 4 has a pricing structure of 400+ for an hour, and 116 has a structure of 120 for an hour.

If you are in town for a week, maybe it doesn't make a difference.

If you are in town for a month, it starts to make a difference.

The real sweet spot, IMHO, is not 116 and VM, but rather mosaico.

Mosaico after midnight is a really good option; Paris too really only gets going at or after 23 h.

4 x 4 in point of fact is not open 7 days. But I guess you mean tier 1 termas, maybe you mean solarium and Perola negra and Paris.

I always go back to bubba boy, who basically wrote that he likes the 116 class places, and that he got most of his P4 p sex at those places at 33% or 50% of the cost of the 4 x4 places.

He got numbers at 4 x 4, but got most of his sex at the prives or the "trash" casas.

You get guys coming into town, who have their faces buried in their phones because they are helpless without google translate to communicate, much less their other apps for transportation, etc. 4 x4 is your place. No smoking, better ventilation. Good wi fi so you can actually communicate, after a fashion. But my point is that it is not really communication if you are handing a cell phone back and forth.

One other thing about 116. It is not just negras, though the best negra IMHO is there. It is the morenas, the morena claras, the real latina bundinha (no bunda, and definitely not bundao) who are in 116. You can "trash" 116 for whatever reasons you have, but the best Latinas are in 116. You won't do well with them if your "game" is handing a cell phone back and forth to "talk". It is a little bit harder, and in that slight degree of difficulty, I find the art. Just as in the same way I know I could go to a zoo and shoot a big game animal, I find going to 4 x 4 boring as f. I go mainly because I like hanging out with fellow gringos.

So there it is.

Oh, and why go to VM? Because it is steps from Mosaico. You must go to Mosaico, IMHO. The best girls always come from Mosaico. That's just a simple fact. It is where cariocas go to fuck cariocas. As I said, the effing DJ from 4 x 4 went to Mosaico on Monday night after work to find a girl for him and / or his friend to fuck. Enough said.

One other thing about 116: safety.

It is right across Av pres Vargas from DETRAN, the DMV. There are cops all over the place, even late at night. The clientele is mainly locals, including lots of military (the packs the guys bring in often have military patches from the various units at 1 Distrito Naval).

Don't bring more cash or valuables than you need to. Don't bring credit cards.

But it's pretty safe, appearances not withstanding.

I mean, I get it. You are flying in from the rich world, you stay at a top tier hotel on Av Atlantico in Copa, you expect good facilities, not a bathroom without a running faucet often.

The reason it is that way is kind of nod to Rio favela chic. That's how most of those folks live. But their women are often hot af, if not hotter than the cow you left back in your casa in 'merica, and that may be part of why. You bought into the 'merican dream, and in the pandemic, it became even more of a nightmare, so now you come and want to get some of that latina ass in Rio. Well it's always been here, and always will.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2618016]116, formerly the secret terma, was a fav of fukafmedig, who came here a few times in 2020.

It was a fave because it always had a top 10% of girls who were porn star quality, as did T31, one of the go to dark side termas, not very far away.

We chatted about it here as the secret terma, then the board members who haven't been here for 2 years, with extra time on their hands figured out it was boate 116.

Why go there?

4 x 4 has a pricing structure of 400+ for an hour, and 116 has a structure of 120 for an hour.

If you are in town for a week, maybe it doesn't make a difference..[/QUOTE]

4 x 4 is a blast. Clean facilities and the place is now smoke free which they all should be. These places like VM have filthy facilities and no relax room like the tier one places. I don't think the girls are plastic at tier one places. Some have fake tits some don't. If you're on social security then you need to save as much as you can, but other than that, a 7 to 10 day trip at 5 to 1 exchange rate is a good deal at tier one places. I can't wait to get back.

Well, that's not really true.

Casa 52 has a expanded area (since two casas merged), including seating outside on the street, with as much clean air or better than in 4 x 4. Mr E, Dodochen, a bunch of people who have come into town have chilled there while the wingmen sessiioned.

And Mosaico has the outside seating on the veranda as a chill area, also with clean, fresh air.

I don't want to appear to be a VM promoter, when what I really advocate for is passing on the best lessons learned since I benefitted from them, and what I really want to point out is that Mosaico is where the best girls are. There is more ass here than I or even a dedicated gang of 5 or 10 gringos could fuck. The best ass is at Mosaico. Because that is where the real sex workers from the tier 1 termas go to party after they are done faking it with you wankers in Zona Sul.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2618189]4 x 4 is a blast. Clean facilities and the place is now smoke free which they all should be. These places like VM have filthy facilities and no relax room like the tier one places. I don't think the girls are plastic at tier one places. Some have fake tits some don't. If you're on social security then you need to save as much as you can, but other than that, a 7 to 10 day trip at 5 to 1 exchange rate is a good deal at tier one places. I can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2617766]I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.[/QUOTE]For a change of place? I agree, on a 7-day trip, just hitting 4 X4 and other first-tier termas makes sense. But if you're in town for a bit longer, of you're on your 30th trip to Rio, it's fun to try something different. FWIW there actually are some damn hot women in VM. But the place is so filthy I've had no desire to bone them on site.

[QUOTE=Combo;2618260]For a change of place? I agree, on a 7-day trip, just hitting 4 X4 and other first-tier termas makes sense. But if you're in town for a bit longer, of you're on your 30th trip to Rio, it's fun to try something different. FWIW there actually are some damn hot women in VM. But the place is so filthy I've had no desire to bone them on site.[/QUOTE]Exactly! How the fuck can a woman take care of herself without hot water or any water at all? How many dudes have sweated over her on the same old sheets? I mean while Senor Vagabondo takes numbers at 4 x4, I collect numbers in trashy places so I can meet them outside on my own terms, LOL.

Having said that, I'm one of those guys who can only play for 10-12 days the most, but after more than a dozen times in Rio I love to mix thing up. 4 x4 is never boring to me, but I find mixing venues stimulating. Termas, prives, boates, acompanhantes, I love them all. What I rather hate is how hard it's gotten over the years to nut more than twice a day. It's a tragedy in Rio (insert a sad emoticon here).

Oh, I get numbers at VM, 116 and Mosaico too. So do the ISG members I regularly take into VM, like Dark7 most recently.

As Senor Sperto has pointed out (and I point out to those who go with me), Hotel Canario is right around the corner from VM and from Mosaico, and Hotel Malaga is less than 500 meters away.

I have sessioned at Canario, and it works just fine.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2618310]Exactly! How the fuck can a woman take care of herself without hot water or any water at all? How many dudes have sweated over her on the same old sheets? I mean while Senor Vagabondo takes numbers at 4 x 4, I collect numbers in trashy places so I can meet them outside on my own terms, LOL.

Having said that, I'm one of those guys who can only play for 10-12 days the most, but after more than a dozen times in Rio I love to mix thing up. 4 x4 is never boring to me, but I find mixing venues stimulating. Termas, prives, boates, acompanhantes, I love them all. What I rather hate is how hard it's gotten over the years to nut more than twice a day. It's a tragedy in Rio (insert a sad emoticon here).[/QUOTE]

Just to be clear, and in point of fact:

All the casas at VM have running water in showers.

So, what you want to do on your standard VM patrol is:

1. Get business cards of a nearby good love motel, the best option being Motel Malaga. I will post this biz card.

So, you walk through VM. You throw that biz card, or you show that biz card on your phone to the girl.

Many will resist, as the house wants its money, the 50% or maybe it is 15 r out of the 75 r half hour fee.

If you get her number, it will probably be a house or group line.

The weakest, youngest and most desirable girls the 18 year olds will be victims of cell phone theft, so be ready for this.

If they want to talk to you on facebag, give them your NSFW account, not the one with your real valuable contacts.

OK, you can talk badly about VM, 116, Mosaico, but here is the reality.

Most Brazilians do not have a shower.

Even the lowest tier hoar at VM does.

That may be why she is there.

Most of the tier 1 terma girls also do not have showers.

They are living in some kind of brick shit house estate in Zona Norte, for example within 2 kilometers walk of the end of the 457 line.

Their father has left, and is out in Arauama in a beach house.

Their devoutly religious evangelical mother has remarried some guy from minas who is a handyman, so she has a stepfather, who probably abused her, maybe impregnated her.

She got an abortion before the age of 18.

They are the polar opposite of the feminist, rich patricinhas that you find walking up and down Rua Sao Clemente in Botafogo or Olegario Maciel in Barra (if you want to meet patricinhas just go to Na Brasa Colombia for a meal).

She has a rose tattooed on her ass, which you can see every night at 19 h at 4 x 4, when she dances; pick her or the girl who comes before or after her for the best ass.

Served up like a piece of picanha at Fogo do Chao in Botafogo.

But, here is the reality.

The first step she will take into the world of hoaring is to get on the Metro to.

1. Sao Cristovao. From there she will get off and walk to VM. You should walk that route. Why? To see the world through her eyes.

She has a mother and father, probably a brother and sister. You're going to put your dick in her. You love her enough for 3 minutes or 30 minutes to fuck.

So, see the world through her eyes, because that metro stop is where she stepped into the world of hoaring.

2. Central. From there she gets off and walks to any of hundreds of prives or trash casas (BTW, the term trash casa is BS, but that's a different post).

You should go to Central.

Amateurs study tactics and sex.

Professionals study logistics.

True insiders study personnel.

Plus, you can get a registered (you don't need a CPF) sim card there for 15 r.

That's where SHE gets the sim card when she has enough saved up.

Central metro stop is 2 stops further than Uruguiana if you are coming from Copa.

Sao Cristavao is 3 or 4 stops further.

One day, when you have some extra time, take the metro all the way out to pavuna.

You won't get killed. Wear a vasco shirt. Don't say a word. Point at your ear when people talk to you because you are deaf. Go with friends. Walk about.

That is the jungle. There are horse drawn carts. It is straight up Texas in 1859. Pre effing civil war.

Life is cheap.

All you want and need to do is to throw that Malaga biz card at her and offer her 150 for an hour, maybe pay the casa 50 to take her out. Do it two times, and you have a girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2618310]Exactly! How the fuck can a woman take care of herself without hot water or any water at all? How many dudes have sweated over her on the same old sheets? I mean while Senor Vagabondo takes numbers at 4 x4, I collect numbers in trashy places so I can meet them outside on my own terms, LOL.

Having said that, I'm one of those guys who can only play for 10-12 days the most, but after more than a dozen times in Rio I love to mix thing up. 4 x4 is never boring to me, but I find mixing venues stimulating. Termas, prives, boates, acompanhantes, I love them all. What I rather hate is how hard it's gotten over the years to nut more than twice a day. It's a tragedy in Rio (insert a sad emoticon here).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoyaDay;2617341]I'm I'm Centro can't find any Pacheco or similar drugstores that do Covid testing. They say you have to go to a lab to get it done.[/QUOTE]I got mine done the last time at Pacheco. You just need a rapid test. Now, not all Pacheco do the testing. You have to ask at a location whether they do rapid testing, and, if not, then where is the nearest Pacheco that does the testing.

I got a text from Nina Deponca.

She is a fav, a mulata, big tits, BBFS, 3 holes.

She is a typical zona norte ex-prive girl.

She is a good fit for me, so I am happy.

We are watching Dom -- for me like the 5th time.

For her the first time.

It is a crowd pleaser.

To put earnings power in perspective she is looking for a job.

She wants to earn 3000 r a month, and expects 8 hours workdays, 6 days a week.

Just to put things in perspective for the majority of Brazilians in terms of earning power.

OK, again, it can't be said enough. Learn Portuguese. Or if not be smart enough to play:

1. During sex, Felipe ret, the whole album, while smoking, which the girls will supply.

2. During the down times or massages, play or watch a Brazilian language show like Dom on Amazon Prime or Netflix.

Decided to try Duda Massagens today for the first time, same location as Onix Terapias but room 3320. Much nicer as well than Onix. I got a sampling of the females available with wanting to see Loren or Beatriz but neither were available. I settled on Manuela which wasn't a bad compromise. She claimed to be 25 years old (I believe it) and had an amazing ass and nice natural tits. One minor tattoo on her lower leg. I settled on an hour and walked across the hall to meet her in our assigned room. The room was much nicer than Onix. I took a quick shower (cold water) and waited about 15 minutes for Manuela to appear. Once she appeared we chatted with Google Translate for a while (annoyingly so) until we got to business. She is BBBJ but not BBFSCIP. I wasn't expecting BBFS but I always like to ask when I meet my provider so they see I am a clean cut person with good hygiene. Banger one out and attempted to BBBJCIM for round 2 but failed so I jerked myself off. Took a shower and left the premise.

A quick run to Spoleto for lunch (very good) and then off to Shopping Rio Sul and was greatly disappointed.

Attempted to get in touch with a few independent 18 year olds but they responded later in the afternoon. Too late as I'm out of cum. I will try them again tomorrow.

No 156 today.

No 4 x 4 tonight.

No Mosaico tonight.

I would like to try mosaico and the VM area but I'm still intimidated. 156 is a good alternative but by VVB's description, it seems that VM might have been a better option for me from the start as I can find a young BBFSCIP girlfriend for rent. Win win situation for both parties. Lesson learned for my next visit.

My highest priority is to get a 156 or VM girl to join me for BBFSCIP.

HDH BBFSCIP independent was not available this weekend which left me with blue balls, not ideal. I am not sure if I will see her again as she has interfered with my time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2618360]Just to be clear, and in point of fact:

All the casas at VM have running water in showers.

So, what you want to do on your standard VM patrol is:

1. Get business cards of a nearby good love motel, the best option being Motel Malaga. I will post this biz card.

So, you walk through VM. You throw that biz card, or you show that biz card on your phone to the girl.

Many will resist, as the house wants its money, the 50% or maybe it is 15 r out of the 75 r half hour fee.

If you get her number, it will probably be a house or group line.

The weakest, youngest and most desirable girls the 18 year olds will be victims of cell phone theft, so be ready for this.

If they want to talk to you on facebag, give them your NSFW account, not the one with your real valuable contacts.

OK, you can talk badly about VM, 116, Mosaico, but here is the reality.

Most Brazilians do not have a shower.

Even the lowest tier hoar at VM does.

That may be why she is there.

Most of the tier 1 terma girls also do not have showers.

They are living in some kind of brick shit house estate in Zona Norte, for example within 2 kilometers walk of the end of the 457 line.

Their father has left, and is out in Arauama in a beach house.

Their devoutly religious evangelical mother has remarried some guy from minas who is a handyman, so she has a stepfather, who probably abused her, maybe impregnated her.

She got an abortion before the age of 18.

They are the polar opposite of the feminist, rich patricinhas that you find walking up and down Rua Sao Clemente in Botafogo or Olegario Maciel in Barra (if you want to meet patricinhas just go to Na Brasa Colombia for a meal).

She has a rose tattooed on her ass, which you can see every night at 19 h at 4 x 4, when she dances; pick her or the girl who comes before or after her for the best ass.

Served up like a piece of picanha at Fogo do Chao in Botafogo.

But, here is the reality.

The first step she will take into the world of hoaring is to get on the Metro to.

1. Sao Cristovao. From there she will get off and walk to VM. You should walk that route. Why? To see the world through her eyes.

She has a mother and father, probably a brother and sister. You're going to put your dick in her. You love her enough for 3 minutes or 30 minutes to fuck.

So, see the world through her eyes, because that metro stop is where she stepped into the world of hoaring.

2. Central. From there she gets off and walks to any of hundreds of prives or trash casas (BTW, the term trash casa is BS, but that's a different post).

You should go to Central.

Amateurs study tactics and sex.

Professionals study logistics.

True insiders study personnel.

Plus, you can get a registered (you don't need a CPF) sim card there for 15 r.

That's where SHE gets the sim card when she has enough saved up.

Central metro stop is 2 stops further than Uruguiana if you are coming from Copa.

Sao Cristavao is 3 or 4 stops further.

One day, when you have some extra time, take the metro all the way out to pavuna.

You won't get killed. Wear a vasco shirt. Don't say a word. Point at your ear when people talk to you because you are deaf. Go with friends. Walk about.

That is the jungle. There are horse drawn carts. It is straight up Texas in 1859. Pre effing civil war.

Life is cheap.

All you want and need to do is to throw that Malaga biz card at her and offer her 150 for an hour, maybe pay the casa 50 to take her out. Do it two times, and you have a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]That's a hell of of a social commentary and, unlike most social commentaries, entertaining as hell!

But let's get the record straight. I would never talk badly about Mosaico. I love Mosaico, and they do have showers and even hot water, IIRC.

My comment was about hygiene, not much else. I mean, in 4 x4 they have access to plenty of hot water, even if they live in some shithole devoid of indoor plumbing.

Your point about Canario is well-taken. I prefer to receive them in my nice hotel room or apartment, but sure, that works too.

Pavuna sounds interesting. Horse drawn carts, you say? Pre-Civil-War Texas you say? I think, I'd love to see it.

Trust me, no one will take me seriously in vasco shirt. You sure they won't kill me, LOL?

What's NSFW account?

Hello all,

I've returned from Rio and want to provide a first time report. I've never travelled internationally and only have limited local mongering experience, so there was a lot of first time experiences for me.

Thanks to all for the wealth of info on this site. It allowed to me to research and plan a very successful trip. I only wish I knew more Portuguese.

4 x 4 (Tuesday night).

After checking into the AirBnB and grabbing coffee, we (buddy and I) head to 4 x4 for our first ever terma experience.

We take an Uber up there (cheaper than taxi) and are greeted by a kind English speaking lady when we enter. She says there were 58 girls that night (I'm not sure I heard her right, but it was packed).

After going over process and prices, I change into a robe and grab a girl who was distracting me at the front desk.

We drink at the bar and then decide to session for 30 minutes. She was great for my tastes. A slim, tan body with natural, supple tits, tight ass, and big lips (I believe her name was Sofilra?

I get great head and fuck her. I was very tired during this but it barely dampened the experience. My buddy also had a great time. We head back and sleep for 13 hours.

Onix Terapias (Wednesday afternoon).

While my buddy meets a Tinder date, I take the opportunity to visit one of the casa de massagems. I head downtown and walk around before heading to Onix.

I meet Victory who speaks a bit of English. I went there with plans to bone Isis, but also felt a bit disconnected the previous night w / not knowing Portueguese, so I go with Victory.

I get world's worst massage followed by an amazing BJ and fuck. This was much better than last night as I have the energy and time to cuddle / chat between multiple fuck sessions.

Centaurus (Wednesday night).

My buddy's Tinder date fell through so we go somewhere close to session (no man left behind). We enter Centaurus and some girl grabs my buddy to session with.

I see a girl even closer to my tastes than last night and start flirting with her. Her negra friend comes over and they agree to threesome. The threesome was amazing and I ate the branca out to finish the session.

Even though this was my only threesome during the visit, I probably won't return to Centaurus. I felt they ripped me off. Paid $400 USD for the session. Additionally, my buddy had a bad experience w / his girl. Bad attitude.

Whiskeria 65 (Thursday night).

After last night we looked forward to going back to Centro, this time to try out 65.

My buddy finds a girl quickly and I eventually find a very short Latina to session with. We speak Spanish and it's much easier to communicate.

This was my favorite terma session. Deep throat, BBFS, and every position I knew of. Spanish in between fucking sessions. I even picked her up at one point and railed her. This also wore me out.

I got her whatsapp number and we made plans for the weekend.

Monte Carlo (Friday night).

Couldn't stop thinking about 65's session and almost hit up the Latina, but I'm glad I tried this place out.

My buddy finds his girl and I pass on a couple so I can get a bird's eye view from the bar. I see a tall, slim girl with perky little tits. We session.

This was a good session. She gave the second best blowjob during my visit. The only issue is she petered out toward the end of the session, and I guess the room was not meant for two taller people. It was also more expensive than Centro termas, but not the rip-off Centaurus was.

Night w / chica (Saturday night).

I hit up the Latina from 65 and we agree to meet at 9 pm in front of AirBnB. We walk to a Copacabana bar along the ocean. Drink a couple Stellas and return to AirBnB.

At this point we've hit it off pretty well, despite my poor Spanish. We head back to the AirBnB for some intense fucking to my favorite album.

After bareback fucking and cuddling for a few hours, we head out for more drinks. We eventually head back to the AirBnB at 5 am and say our goodbyes.

This was my favorite night outside of visiting termas. I'm still in contact with her. Maybe I'll fly her up to the US sex prison for a couple weeks.

I miss Brazil very much and feel a certain emptiness now that I'm back in Missouri. This was by far the best experience of my life and I hope to return for a longer period soon (maybe I'll try Germany first).

[QUOTE=Mexidan;2618443]I got mine done the last time at Pacheco. You just need a rapid test. Now, not all Pacheco do the testing. You have to ask at a location whether they do rapid testing, and, if not, then where is the nearest Pacheco that does the testing.[/QUOTE]I spent half a day running around labs looking for a pcr test. Finally found one paid 300 r for a rapid result test at a lab near 4 x 4. Funny thing is nobody asked for it when I got to the gru airport or when I landed.

I biked around a lot using bike Itaú. This was a great option from the metro and the bus. It's good to scope the neighborhoods from a bike. It takes about 30 min on bike from copa to Centro almost all flat and very scenic. They also have electric bikes at a higher cost.