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[QUOTE=The Pro; 1459842]But many would rather have less money and enjoy the sex than more money and hate it.
With the boot on the other foot, if you had a cute young thing willing to pay you 2K for sex or an old grandma past 50 willing to pay you 4K. Who would you sleep with?[/QUOTE]Really now- are the girls really enjoying the sex? The top ones are just machines. This past week has been wild at the Rainbows. But its the same old same old-the same girls are getting barfined time after time. A hot one cums back from a barfine, she goes on stage and she hooks a customer very fast.
While the avg to less than avg. Ones just sit around just like customers observing the happenings around them. When you see it everyday like I do you feel bad for bioth types of girls. The ones that make no money. An the the ones that make money but at what physical. And emotional cost.
2 and a half months I declare the Baccara girls just plain unfriendly. LOL.
If I were a prostitute I'd take the old ladies 4k. You need to realize they in it for the money not the orgasms.
Another real life example of why bar owners and girls like Asians. Have you ever seen an Asian passed out drunk on the floor in NEP? I saw a white hooligan one today, looked like a baby sleeping. LOL.
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Today went to have a look in Baccara again but this time around 10PM. Expected to see a greatly improved line-up over the 1:30AM lot an earlier day. Actually was same girl as last time I thought had a good face No. 175 but big silicones. The other one I like was involved in a sexy dance show and one of the very few in the show with natural tits. I have been with her 3 or 4 times in the past. That was it, really. One or two other acceptable girls. I don't like the very fake looks of the large majority. Some of them don't even look Thai. I find Dollhouse has some prettier girls. I commented to Yin Yang, with me, that No. 225 was so adjusted in the face that she looked like a ladyboy. To my taste, one of the worst. As soon as she got off the podium though, was called over by some Japanese customers. They obviously thought she was great, I guess.
Earlier in the day went to Utopia soapy and great session with one of my regulars. These days has implants but they are a not too exaggerated job. So acceptable. Nice GFE. Spotted some other extreme cuties on the way out and noted the numbers for a future occasion. Utopia is expensive for Farangs but they do have a few girls of superior looks in amongst all the fake noses. Recommended for Asian guys.
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[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot; 1459954]Was around 7pm when I arrived at Posiedons supose to be one of the better times when most girls begin their shifts. Posiedons has two floors with girls on. The third floor is where girls just sit about in the lounge, these are suppose to be model girls, with alot having worked in glamour magazines even Thailand Penthouse, they can set you back 5000 baht plus.
I was disappointed in what I saw. I have seen better looking girls working in sub soi beer bars. One trait they do have in common is light skin, thats what the asian guys like. I wander down to the 2nd floor and take a look at the girls in the fishbowl. Papasan sits with you fishing for a tip. He tells me girls to left are 2700 and to the right 3000 baht for 2 hours. Now apparently some of the Soapies add a surcharge for foreigners and Posiedon is suppose to be one of them. I like a girl to the right who keeps smiling at me and choose her. Have to pay my 3000 baht at reception, tip papasan 100 baht and my girl meets me and leads me to one of the rooms in the Posiedon.
She is pleasant enough, quite heavily tattooed though under the dress, tells me she is aged 22 but probably older.[/QUOTE]Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.
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Soapy Land
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1460044]Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.[/QUOTE]Yes thats what I like about the Gogos. 'no surprises'. Although there is still plenty of girls to choose from in the Gogos, during my short stay and compared to previous visits over the last 10 years or so, I would say the quality is on the decline.
I was hard pushed to find a girl that really stood out. It always happened on the first night in Bangkok on past visits.
I would definitely return to Soapy land and try some of the other establishments. Amsterdam has popped up a few times. If I was there now I think I would try Nataree.
This is a good blog on the Bangkok soapy massage scene.
[url]http://guestfriendlyhotelsinthailand.********.co.uk/2012/07/my-5-favorite-bangkok-soapy-massage.html[/url]
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Taxi rip offs.
[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot; 1459954]Flew into Bangkok with Thai Airways from London Heathrow for just over £600, but will pay extra for a direct flight. For low season the plane was full. Arrive Bangkok around 3pm Friday afternoon, taxi to my hotel the Admiral suites top of soi 22 agreed 500 baht with taxi driver. Traffic not to bad for a Friday afternoon into Bangkok. Check into Admiral suites, nice room overlooking street life of soi 22.[/QUOTE]Could I please ask why oh why would anyone agree a fixed fare from the airport with a taxi driver, you know you are getting ripped off. I landed at 20.30 Saturday night, was in a Taxi just after 21.00. Heading to Soi 13, I paid the two tolls total 75 baht, the meter showed 215 when we reached the hotel, plus 50 for the airport surcharge, = 265 baht, I gave the drive 300 so after paying the tolls, total cost was 375 baht. Just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1459572]This takes us to last night. Another night, another girl. This one admittedly only average at best but I have a weakness for overbites and she had one that was an orthodontist's nightmare. Same same. Standing lap dance and so on. Gets me to buy drinks for her three friends as well as herself. Ok why not. 3am and I ask her if she wants to come back with me. Ok. But need money. How much. 3,000 baht. Bargain her down to 2, 500 which is more than her looks deserve. In truth a 1500 baht girl. But it was 3am and I did not have the energy to start over again. So I agree and say let's go. No she replies, I want to listen to the music some more and by the way my friends all need a refill. At this point I retreat to the men's room to think this over. Its 3am, I am quite horny but this has every bad sign there is hung on this one. So I look thru my phone for a long sms and take it to her, and she has moved near the door because I think she suspected I was going to make a break for it, and show her the sms and tell her that my friend is very sick and has gone to the hospital and I need to go see him. My last look at her was one with her mouth agape looking to catch a fly.
So I am just curious to know from the guys who have been to Climax lately what girls have been asking them. 2,000 for st is fair but this 3, 000 and 5, 000 baht business is just silly or is that where the late night disco girls are these days?[/QUOTE]There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. She was treating you like the turd I just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. As far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AM
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[QUOTE=The Pro; 1459842]With the boot on the other foot, if you had a cute young thing willing to pay you 2K for sex or an old grandma past 50 willing to pay you 4K. Who would you sleep with?[/QUOTE]I won't mention any names, but looking at the photo gallery, I'd surmise some would opt for the granny 5555
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Quite Right
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1460086]There's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. I understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. She was treating you like the turd I just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. As far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AM[/QUOTE]TH is quite right. You are treated as an ATM and should have said 'we walk out now together or I leave on my own- now.' You are not building a life long relationship but paying for an hour's f*ck*ng with a WG. I would have just left with a smile at the thought of the money I was saving.
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[QUOTE=IndianVisit; 1459940]Thanks for your reply.
This will definitely help me my plan. Anyhow I cannot resist temptation to reply mr Streetwalker. I have been to various countries in gulf including Baharin and Iran. Most of places all SW welcomed me. At one massage centre in Dubai, a Thai massage lady did not agree anything extra and worked uncomfortably. Three Chinese workers and one Uzbek told me that Indians are no nonsense customers.
Forget the discussion.
In January around 12 th syrgies mentioned about lap dance in Soi Cowboy. Is it also possible in Pattaya or Angeles where you can pay and have some groping and kissing at bar without taking lady out. Not like Soi Cowboy bars of having blowjob at site
Thanks Lancelot again. I have gone through your reports and looks genuine. Similarly Gorgan.[/QUOTE]I don't think one who is trying to convince Thai girls to service Indians should use Dubai and Iran as examples. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1460044]Yes the so called models on Poseidon 3rd floor are not that stunning. Yes light skin, young, good bodies, no baby stretch marks, but I left out the face part. Unfortunately that is the problem. Most are quite plain faced. I look at the face before the body, so most are ruled out immediately.
I think Amsterdam and Utopia has some much better lookers, however its still a lowish percentage of the total. Not so many stunning girls are forced to work in Soapies, bars, or MPs, unless that is what they really want.
The advantage with choosing a girl at a nude bar or virtually nude, is that there are no surprises when the cloths come off.[/QUOTE]The problem with nude bars is the face. Good faces just don't work nude bars.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1460086]Often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
BTW- Insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 AM[/QUOTE]If they don't like you they, don't like you. Money to them doesn't matter. I've experienced this.
The girls do have their limits. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1460039]Today went to have a look in Baccara again but this time around 10PM. Expected to see a greatly improved line-up over the 1:30AM lot an earlier day. Actually was same girl as last time I thought had a good face No. 175 but big silicones. The other one I like was involved in a sexy dance show and one of the very few in the show with natural tits. I have been with her 3 or 4 times in the past. That was it, really. One or two other acceptable girls. I don't like the very fake looks of the large majority. Some of them don't even look Thai. I find Dollhouse has some prettier girls. I commented to Yin Yang, with me, that No. 225 was so adjusted in the face that she looked like a ladyboy. To my taste, one of the worst. As soon as she got off the podium though, was called over by some Japanese customers. They obviously thought she was great, I guess.[/QUOTE]I also noticed that for some reason, plastic surgery seems to wipe out almost any facial expression. Most girls at Baccara look deadpan on the stage.
Found the girls at SW much more entertaining even though many are not as "perfect". My barfine Pui definitely was cute, very slim body, maybe a little inexperienced. But that, strangely enough, only shows in bed while she seemed to have no problem at all strutting around nakedly in the bar. Uninhibited in public but shy in private, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Yin Yang; 1460172]I also noticed that for some reason, plastic surgery seems to wipe out almost any facial expression. Most girls at Baccara look deadpan on the stage.
Found the girls at SW much more entertaining even though many are not as "perfect". My barfine Pui definitely was cute, very slim body, maybe a little inexperienced. But that, strangely enough, only shows in bed while she seemed to have no problem at all strutting around nakedly in the bar. Uninhibited in public but shy in private, LOL.[/QUOTE]I thought she was a little shyer than my talkative girls (with a few drinks) in the bar LOL.
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Why go to BKK then?
If girls are ugly old fatty and expensive, what's the point of mongering all the way to Thailand?
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[quote=tony hoeprano; 1460086]there's no need to concoct an elaborate cover up just because you decided not to bar fine her. i understand the whole thing about not wanting to make her lose face, but the hell with that. she was treating you like the turd i just flushed down the toilet before writing this, no need to put these gals on a pedestal, just say goodbye or better yet just leave without saying anything, you owe them no apology. as far as a girl asking for 5, 000 she's just telling you, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you. often times, the more money you give them and the nicer you are, the more they end up hating you!
btw- insanity, you were there too early, it usually starts crackin' no earlier than 1 am[/quote]i am pretty sure that after giving me a standing lap dance for nearly an hour that she wanted to go with me, that can't be great for her back poor thing. but for the right price. i just think she thought i was easy pickings. as a friend told me after relaying my tale to him. many guys who are still at climax at 4am are probably fairy desperate to get laid by that time and partly inebriated and willing to say yes to anything. i hadn't had much to drink though and still was able to say no.
i'll give insanity another go but when i say no one was there at midnight i mean no one. and i jumped over to climax 10 minutes later and it was already going at full speed.