Moscow

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Moskva and Ukraina towards the end of the year, but Rossia won't be back before 2011 or 2012... if at all. There is still a legal battle going on over the plot of land where Rossia once was... no construction started. They are thinking of turning it into a pedestrian zone ala "old Moscow" with bars, restaurants and smaller hotels. Would be awesome... )[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info, Doc!

An "Old Moscow" would be awesome, but in reality I'd predict it'd be as soul-less as Arbat.

I heared that the tochkas on Leningradski Chausee in Khimki have all been closed down: does anybody have an update on tochkas in Moscow (location/prices).


Thanks a lot in advance.

A lot has been made of the rise in P4P prices in Moscow during the past 24 months. Places like NF and HD has seen the floor price come up substantially despite recent reports that prices are starting to soften.

Still, we have often convinced ourselves that no matter how ridiculous the prices, they are still cheaper than anything you would get for the same quality in the good old US of A...... right? Wrong.

I am in Dallas, Texas this week on a business trip with Russian colleagues. The Big D, home of big silicone boobs and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. I know were not supposed to talk about girls and prices in the USA but since I am here with Russians it's sort of relevant.

After dinner last night with Russian business colleagues, we went to a VERY trendy bar in a VERY trendy part of town. Apparently it's THE place to be on a Wednesday night. The place filled up by 23:30 and and by midnight it was shoulder to shoulder. And as you would expect it was packed with gorgeous girls.

I was standing at the bar ordering a round of drinks for the guys and two stunning babes walked up and starting chatting me up. They cut to the chase quickly and asked if we wanted some "entertainment". Big surprise these girls were strippers who wanted to come back to the hotel for a little party.

I will spare you all of the details but once we got back to the hotel with the girls the negotiations for "extra" services started and here's what the going rate was:

$200 Massage with happy finish.
$300 as above but with CJB and possibly BBBJ depending on the girl.
$400 as above but vaginal sex.

The issue of time came up and they giggled and said that as long as we could "get it up" and perform they would stay but they needed to be gone before the sun came up.

So after the strip show in my room, the two girls went off with Sergei and Vadim to their rooms. What kind of host would I have been to take one for myself? I thought you guys might be interested to know what the prices were for what I consider to be fairly high end girls. Seems quite reasonable to me considering some of the quotes we have been hearing in Moscow. Granted there was enough silicon to.... to.....to.... well hell I don't know what else you can do with great gobs of silicone but you get the idea. These girls were 170 cm, about 50 Kg and very, very fit. Oh and they were bi-sexual judging from the show they put on for us.

It's 9:15 AM in Dallas and I have yet to get a report from the boys but they seemed to be quite taken with the blonds so I guess we'll see. It's the first trip to Dallas for both guys. Welcome to America.

[QUOTE=Jake993]A lot has been made of the rise in P4P prices in Moscow during the past 24 months. Places like NF and HD has seen the floor price come up substantially despite recent reports that prices are starting to soften.

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I will spare you all of the details but once we got back to the hotel with the girls the negotiations for "extra" services started and here's what the going rate was:

$200 Massage with happy finish.
$300 as above but with CJB and possibly BBBJ depending on the girl.
$400 as above but vaginal sex.

The issue of time came up and they giggled and said that as long as we could "get it up" and perform they would stay but they needed to be gone before the sun came up.

So after the strip show in my room, the two girls went off with Sergei and Vadim to their rooms. What kind of host would I have been to take one for myself? I thought you guys might be interested to know what the prices were for what I consider to be fairly high end girls. Seems quite reasonable to me considering some of the quotes we have been hearing in Moscow. Granted there was enough silicon to.... to.....to.... well hell I don't know what else you can do with great gobs of silicone but you get the idea. These girls were 170 cm, about 50 Kg and very, very fit. Oh and they were bi-sexual judging from the show they put on for us.

It's 9:15 AM in Dallas and I have yet to get a report from the boys but they seemed to be quite taken with the blonds so I guess we'll see. It's the first trip to Dallas for both guys. Welcome to America.[/QUOTE]This was quite interesting and funny! I would love to know what the Russians thought of the girls. I have usually had good sex in USA, but the Russian girls are on the average far better in BJs. So what did the Russians think about that?

[QUOTE=Explorer69]This was quite interesting and funny! I would love to know what the Russians thought of the girls. I have usually had good sex in USA, but the Russian girls are on the average far better in BJs. So what did the Russians think about that?[/QUOTE] Well, Vadim was not impressed at all. His girl (Nicole) would not do BBBJ and what's worse, she would not let him lick her pussy. She said that she would only let her girlfriend do that!!!! Apparently she did the starfish routine and just laid there while Vadim pounded her. And she was out the door in 59 minutes. Vadim suspects that she was gay and just doing the deed for the money.

Sergei fared a little better. His girl (Jana) was a little more into it and did remove the condom after he complained that he could not feel anything. She would would not let him CIM but he said she was not bad at it. He paid $400 for the hour and she stayed for almost two hours. In fact, she probably would have stayed longer but Nicole was waiting for her in the car and called her cell phone. She was pissed off that Jana was taking so long.

Vadim said they tried all positions and she was pretty frisky but she almost knocked him out cold with one of her silicone filled boobs. He thought her boob job was over done, but I reminded him that he was in Texas!!! (Everything's bigger) He asked her if she would do anal but she wanted to charge him double so he told her to forget it.

Both Russians said they want to go down market tonight and find some women who were "more ugly". They think gorgeous Dallas girls are like gorgeous Moscow girls - too expensive and poor service!!!! To quote Vadim - "Beautiful girls think that they shit ice cream, but the ugly girls know what they have to do". Words to live by.

[QUOTE=Jake993]"Beautiful girls think that they shit ice cream, but the ugly girls know what they have to do".[/QUOTE]молодец Вадим! That pretty much sums it up.

Too bad he ended up on the wrong side of a love triangle, but with that practical perspective he should do fine.

Any more stories about Vadim and Sergei in America??

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]молодец Вадим! That pretty much sums it up.

Too bad he ended up on the wrong side of a love triangle, but with that practical perspective he should do fine.

Any more stories about Vadim and Sergei in America??[/QUOTE] After the experience at the Candle Room, those two clowns got it in their heads that prostitution in America must be legal. We were watching the BCS (OU & Florida) final at a sports bar in Uptown Dallas on Thursday night when Vadim propositioned a girl and just about got us thrown out! But the night wasn't a total loss - we ended up at a strip club later that night and found a girl to fulfill Vadim's fantasies.

Poured those two onto a plane for Moscow this afternoon. I think I'll need the weekend for my liver to recover. They've invited me to come to Gelendzhik (Black Sea) in late April with them and their friends - they say they are going to show me how to have some real fun. Why I am I not surprised?

[QUOTE=Jake993]those two clowns got it in their heads that prostitution in America must be legal[/QUOTE]HA!
and why not? It makes perfect sense, to a Russian....

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]HA!
and why not? It makes perfect sense, to a Russian....[/QUOTE]

Even though it's legal in only a tiny fraction of the US, it is at least condoned in the remaining 99.999% [B]if[/B] kept on the DL.

I recently met up with another ISG member who related an interesting story to me about a business dinner he'd just had in Vegas. It was your typical corporate meet-n-greet and one of the attendees was a sexy, slightly "enhanced" 30-ish real estate broker who'd taken a keen interest in our ISG brother. Flirting led to kissing which led to a little groping and then she dropped the bomb... she [I]really[/I] wanted to be with him, but it'll cost him. Usually she charges $1500/night, but "since he's so nice", he'll get over a 50% discount. Now, understand, our brother is no stranger to p4p, but on the other hand, he started off thinking this was a freebie. He thought for a moment about bidding her down to Moscow prices, but given his work schedule the following morning, decided to punt. Considering this occurred back at the beginning of the crisis, and her ostensible career was in real estate, it's not too unlikely that her rates have since been cut as much as the US prime (which would put her in the same ballpark as Jake's Dallas Cowgirls).

Now let's return to originally scheduled program... :)

Dr. Skank,

I have read many of your posts and have to admit that I'm very much intrigued by them. In fact, I believe that your achievements that you relay to the readers of this forum are extraordinary:
1. You meet plenty of gorgeous 18-20 y.o. freebie girls in Moscow.
2. You have mostly a first-rate experiences with them.
3. Your exploits make the paid sex feel like a meager substitue for the less fortunate.

Frankly, this is exactly what my personal fantasy would be: come to Moscow, go to a club or otherwise meet an 18 y.o. gorgeous Moscovite, make passionate love to her for few days for free, move on.

This is such a nice fantasy that I started to think that your reports are too good to be true. My personal inability to replicate your success (see my post of my unsuccessful exploits in Moscow) certainly add to the doubt. I really don't want to doubt your achievements (hopes die last, don't they?), but I honestly (perhaps, naively) ask - how do you do it? I have to be in Moscow in the near future, so my question has a practical aspect to it. Aibolit

[QUOTE=Aibolit]Dr. Skank,

I have read many of your posts and have to admit that I'm very much intrigued by them. In fact, I believe that your achievements that you relay to the readers of this forum are extraordinary:
1. You meet plenty of gorgeous 18-20 y.o. freebie girls in Moscow.
2. You have mostly a first-rate experiences with them.
3. Your exploits make the paid sex feel like a meager substitue for the less fortunate.

Frankly, this is exactly what my personal fantasy would be: come to Moscow, go to a club or otherwise meet an 18 y.o. gorgeous Moscovite, make passionate love to her for few days for free, move on.

This is such a nice fantasy that I started to think that your reports are too good to be true. My personal inability to replicate your success (see my post of my unsuccessful exploits in Moscow) certainly add to the doubt. I really don't want to doubt your achievements (hopes die last, don't they?), but I honestly (perhaps, naively) ask - how do you do it? I have to be in Moscow in the near future, so my question has a practical aspect to it. Aibolit[/QUOTE]

It's not just Skank who's getting it on here with young, beautiful dyevs. I have other friends who have an equal or greater number of girlfriends, but don't care to write about their exploits (even if some are ISG members).

Of course it helps immensely if you have some of the following qualities (NOT in order of importance): handsome, well-built, well-dressed, well-mannered, well-read, interesting, passionate, communicative, successful, flirtatious, empathetic, intelligent, confident...

Really, there's no secret. There's a ton of ways to meet girls, all detailed here in ISG. After that, it's all [I]you[/I].

[QUOTE=Jake993]Dallas ... VERY trendy bar in a VERY trendy part of town ...[/QUOTE]

Ghost bar? W Hotel bar?

I'm curious, as I don't think it's just Wednesdays. You didn't get to meet the gorgeous Linsey by any chance? :) (Myself and OK Farm Boy know her)

[QUOTE=Jake993]I thought you guys might be interested to know what the prices were for what I consider to be fairly high end girls[/QUOTE]

It's worth remembering that NYC is to Dallas what Moscow is to, say, Nizhny Novgorod.

[QUOTE=Aibolit]Dr. Skank,

I have read many of your posts and have to admit that I'm very much intrigued by them. In fact, I believe that your achievements that you relay to the readers of this forum are extraordinary:
1. You meet plenty of gorgeous 18-20 y.o. freebie girls in Moscow.
2. You have mostly a first-rate experiences with them.
3. Your exploits make the paid sex feel like a meager substitue for the less fortunate.

Frankly, this is exactly what my personal fantasy would be: come to Moscow, go to a club or otherwise meet an 18 y.o. gorgeous Moscovite, make passionate love to her for few days for free, move on.

This is such a nice fantasy that I started to think that your reports are too good to be true. My personal inability to replicate your success (see my post of my unsuccessful exploits in Moscow) certainly add to the doubt. I really don't want to doubt your achievements (hopes die last, don't they?), but I honestly (perhaps, naively) ask - how do you do it? I have to be in Moscow in the near future, so my question has a practical aspect to it. Aibolit[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pizdyets]It's not just Skank who's getting it on here with young, beautiful dyevs. I have other friends who have an equal or greater number of girlfriends, but don't care to write about their exploits (even if some are ISG members).

Of course it helps immensely if you have some of the following qualities (NOT in order of importance): handsome, well-built, well-dressed, well-mannered, well-read, interesting, passionate, communicative, successful, flirtatious, empathetic, intelligent, confident...

Really, there's no secret. There's a ton of ways to meet girls, all detailed here in ISG. After that, it's all [I]you[/I].[/QUOTE]What Pizdyets said is correct, there are many ways to meet girls and they do go for many kinds of guys for any number of reasons.

A lot of the basics have already been addressed here and if you've read the posts as you say, you'll have understood the fundementals of wooing the slavic female.

Here's 3 things I think are very important:

1) girls like successful guys, period. It doesn't even really matter what you are successful in, but you should be able to get the message across to her. This is true of all societies, but particularly so in Russia.

2) don't wait for things to happen, make them happen.

3) make it understood you'll be a regular visitor to Moscow or live here. makes a big difference. Tourists can get laid too and do, but their chances are reduced. Girls do look for guys that they'll see more than once or twice.

[QUOTE=Aibolit]Dr. Skank, ...
Frankly, this is exactly what my personal fantasy would be: come to Moscow, go to a club or otherwise meet an 18 y.o. gorgeous Moscovite, make passionate love to her for few days for free, move on.

[/QUOTE]

There's part of your problem right there in your question. You dont aim to come to Moscow and meet ONE girl. Don't aim to be poking the same girl for a few days - thats soft. If thats your attitude, you will end up trying too hard for each chick you hit on.

Moscow girls smell that, and it will smell like weakness and boredom.

They dont go for that.

Thanks to all who provided comments to my post. I would agree with most of them. But, you guys are forgetting few important things that, I'm sure, are an impediment to many of us:
1. I am completely alone, when I am in Moscow.
2. I have no idea where to go to meet young gorgeous freebies.
3. I don't have time to invest in Mamba etc to prepare for months the potential dates for my visit.
4. I am in Moscow only for 1-2 weeks maximum.

I don't think I have any problem with other "must haves" that you guys listed: success, charm, visit Moscow often, well mannered, etc. But, I wonder how you suggest to overcome the 4 above-mentioned impediments?
Again, I'm sure this is a generic problem that is not specific just to me.