Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=FortyTime;1918965][URL]http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/05/team-usa-basketball-players-brothel-rio-spa/[/URL]

Right! They went here by "mistake". Of course that makes sense, especially since they are staying on a luxury cruise liner, I'm sure there are "spas" on the boat LOL![/QUOTE]Come on all you naysayers.

Who among you can honestly say that when you have been walking down Avenida Atlântica and looked down Rua Hilário de Gouvêia, noticing that nondescript awning above the building next to Hotel Oceano Copacabana Hotel with no signage whatsoever, that you were not drawn to it as if a powerful magnet were pulling you. Who, who among you dare say not.

Anyone who has never been, just do a search on termas Monte Carlo and ask for street view.

Does anyone else remember that time period, maybe 2002 - 2004 when you would always see Pro US athletes in L'uomo, Monte Carlo and Centaurus? They were like the proverbial bull in a China shop. They would give you the head nod like you just think you see me here trying to fit into this robe or wearing my street clothes because no termas robe in the world is going to fit on my 6' 9" oversize frame. Word must have gotten out because lately the termas seem to be off limits.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1918176]Option #1. A lot of the girls are there already ready for business but most of the tourists are not.[/QUOTE]Thanks RB! I got only your answer, but for sure I'll consider it.

[QUOTE=FortyTime;1918965][URL]http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/05/team-usa-basketball-players-brothel-rio-spa/[/URL]

Right! They went here by "mistake". Of course that makes sense, especially since they are staying on a luxury cruise liner, I'm sure there are "spas" on the boat LOL![/QUOTE]I've made the same mistake myself. Many times! All over Rio LOL!

[QUOTE=FortyTime;1918965][URL]http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/05/team-usa-basketball-players-brothel-rio-spa/[/URL]

Right! They went here by "mistake". Of course that makes sense, especially since they are staying on a luxury cruise liner, I'm sure there are "spas" on the boat LOL![/QUOTE]They went there by mistake technically twice; o).

Lapa Friday and Saturday has been bumpin like bad skin!

Incredible amount of talent on the streets, hangin, vibin, dancin, drinkin. Rio is buzzin for sure.

I'm back in Lapa today for a giant street party from 1600 onwards.

Garotas are definitely worth the hustle,; I am an avid traveler and monger and Brazil is the place to go if you want your testicles nice and empty. Bubble buts, nice chicks and small waistlines, I took a stroll on the centro thermas and found a few gems, Danica, white, blonde was a definite hit in HMO Therma and she does all your wife will never ever do, anal, a2m, todo, you just have to tip her in advance. I was almost robbed by trannies in one of the streets, my hearth stopped, they came to me and asked for money, I don't know what they had because they held some hard object on my back, but it wasn't fun at all, then they ran away, I thought it was police but I haven't seen any police car, I wanted to report it. Crazy. I thought, here we go, another German sex tourist dead, but thank god. But it was all worth it, no question about it.

[QUOTE=DavidSchmauch;1920348]Garotas are definitely worth the hustle,; I am an avid traveler and monger and Brazil is the place to go if you want your testicles nice and empty. Bubble buts, nice chicks and small waistlines, I took a stroll on the centro thermas and found a few gems, Danica, white, blonde was a definite hit in HMO Therma and she does all your wife will never ever do, anal, a2m, todo, you just have to tip her in advance. I was almost robbed by trannies in one of the streets, my hearth stopped, they came to me and asked for money, I don't know what they had because they held some hard object on my back, but it wasn't fun at all, then they ran away, I thought it was police but I haven't seen any police car, I wanted to report it. Crazy. I thought, here we go, another German sex tourist dead, but thank god. But it was all worth it, no question about it.[/QUOTE]Would you mind actually updating your report to include useful information like locations, prices, etc? And this comment about tipping is shocking.

Had a serious night out last night.

Started solo at T31,entry 10 reais on the wrong side of Ave Presidente Vargas. (to me the right side!

Despite it being Monday, was pretty packed with girls-allthough none quite hit my spot.

Moved on to MV30 and took a look-saw nothing unttill I was about to leave I saw this absolutely stunning morena from Bahia-Kamila.

19 year old, beautiful ass, natural tits, a killer smile and eyes and a great tongue kisser in the boate! Always a good sign.

Was reachin down my shorts in the boate-this one was not playing.

Took her for an hour and she sucked a mean one-BBBJ-after I told her no hat.

She was fun in the room-dancin funke, playful-every position. Gave her the magic vibrator tour and it made her come again-fucked her for 40 minutes so hard she started bleeding a bit! Lool.

Would def repeat and she is up for a per noite, a praia, food, drinks.

Didn't come as I needed more time but I had felt enough to repeat.

Met up with a wingman and we headed to VM- a quiet Monday but this is good-no guys and found a cute latina-Karol-about 25- 1 hour 125 Reais.

She sucked cbbj and wasnt open to bribes, fucked well but snorted coke in the middle of session which to me is a turn off.

I moved on and found a lovely natural negra on one of the boates on frontline.

Took her for 30-60 reais. Was great- BBBJ-mean, lots of spit and we went at it in many positions-she had a lovely demeanor when speaking to her infront of her boate-one of those elevated ones...lovely girl-when you approach them politely-boa noite -qual e seu nome?-prazer etc etc which the brazilian guys usually dont do there You quickly see whos a cool person when they dont feel hassled and can be themselves when spoken to as a human being.

She's lovely-19 years old- it was so good I paid for another 30 while in room-she left and came back-plus!! She made sure room was locked so no one could try and sneak in.

Good sign.

She got the vibrator treatment with condom on it as welll and she came again and I came. CIM. Gave her 35 tip. Total 160.

Will bring her over for a per noite very soon.

We moved on to Black & White-Avenida do Paris-.

Walk in to main boate and dj is rockin funke and ots of girls-25/30.

The cab there took 25 minutes so I had recovered sufficently to take Katrin-.

A negra funkeira (pro funke dancer at Baile parties) -.

The rooms are all upstairs and very good and large-was 150 for an hour I believe. (was drunk).

She had some serious moves-but its a house rule no BBBJ- but a 50 reais changed that quick!

She was all natural with a lovely pink pussy and a be cup natural tits. No kids. No stretchmarks.

We went back to VM afterwards but it was emptying out and we headed to Florida Bar and Praca Maua.

Decent energy and about 14 girls.

No one hit the spot-free entry BTW.

Up the road from Florida theres a blocco every Monday with trap and funke played-about 2000 people.

Insane amount of exotic non-pros- hardly any tourists.

Was great, had a few more caipirinhas-chatted to a few girls and came home 0600.

Rio has bloccos everydy in different bairros-nowt to do with Olympics. Its an outdoor city!.

Today went back to T31-was rammed-took Thayse, an indigena negra with a great body and killer smile.

I had her before and we talk on zap-she's a hot dancer too. BBBJ beautiful and long. We have a vibe anyway-I came after 40 minutes and was exhausted. Good time had by all.

-Copa is full of GDPs. Daytime I don't think I've ever seen as many. Decent quality. On beach infront of Othon there are tons. A shit hot duo of a latin girl and a negra with a stunnning body are always there with alot of guys coming up to whisper sweet nothings or discuss price. Passed Dolce Vita and Mabs on way home and the girls are out in force. Some cuties too. Surprising. Rio is buzzing. Sick amount of non-pros and pros and semi-pros in the city now as expected. Enjoy-abracos.

If you saw how the press staked out Justin Bieber when he came out of Centaurus a few years ago, you would think these NBA guys would be more discreet. Why not book a giant hotel suite and have the girls delivered? Obviously not as fun as a visit to a termas where you get to pick your girl out of the line-up.

In the early 2000's, I remember girls at Help Disco bragging about hooking up with some famous NBA guys that just "rolled" through town. Sure enough, some NBA stars were down there the prior week with some kind of promotional tour.

[QUOTE=DavidSchmauch;1920348]... you just have to tip her in advance... [/QUOTE]
That was an awful advice. You should not tip privê girls and definitely not in advance.

Good to hear that girls are back on the beach in front of Othon, hopefully they will keep going after the games, when I was there in April there were none hanging out there.

What about Meia Pataca? Any girls hanging back there during the day?

What about that little club down from Mabs that was mentioned on here (forgot the name) how is that looking right now?

Based on action since the Games started, are there different Sunday options besides the usual Vila Mimosa, Barbarella's, Mabs, ordering an escort? Have any termas decided to stay open on Sundays? Sounds like the beach may be an option. I've heard the streets are nearly flooded with GDPs, so maybe there's nothing to be concerned about, but I want to be sure since I arrive on Sunday.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1921484]Based on action since the Games started, are there different Sunday options besides the usual Vila Mimosa, Barbarella's, Mabs, ordering an escort? Have any termas decided to stay open on Sundays? Sounds like the beach may be an option. I've heard the streets are nearly flooded with GDPs, so maybe there's nothing to be concerned about, but I want to be sure since I arrive on Sunday.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]The beach is defo an option. Sunday will be hot so there will be a good number of gdps there.

Dolce Vita is also a magnet now and outside. On the corner and by mabs.

There are so many gdps in Copa now and its so easy to spot them. They really stand out by overdressing early and too much make up early etc. Its a bit embarrasing but some don't know how to just blend in.

Many small town girls hittin the big Zona Sul and they always over glam it. Inevitably looking like a puta at 11 am. LOL.

Last night I swung by VM and grabbed Ruane,21,negra with braces, natural tits-girl next door type and off we went to Malaga for a 4 hour session.
This girl had never been and had only been in VM 2 months.
Had only ever visited Lapa once-with a client! Never been to Zona Sul-none of the beaches...lived an hour away.Now thats small town Brazil baby!lol.
I like those natural ones who are hot and dont expect much-I hate the ones who watch the time-try to rush you-fake moans-saying vai vai me da leite etc after 10 minutes..shut the f up and take this pounding!
This actually makes me wanna go even longer and wanna punish them for it.lol

I gave her 150 plus Malaga was about 70 something for a good room with good bathroom, kitchen, minibar etc. Bed with good mirrors and music, tv.
Always a 4 hour minimum.American motel vibe with 3 floors i think it was.

Malaga is a good option for a love motel close by-a 10 reais trip in a taxi or less. From VM.

She had a cold but still BBBJ etc and multiple positions. This little negra spinner gets very wet and good honest moans.

She can't take a pounding really in some postitions which is a bit of a downer.

Anyway job done after 2 hours and I didn't feel like staying the full 4. Was cool but not great. Ironically was better with her in VM. In a shit room! LOL.

Oh well. It is what it is. I like Malaga anyway. You can take a few from VM there at once and bang out cheaply.

Great news that the beach in front of Rio Othon is buzzing. Years back, it was hard to just sit back and chill with so many hotties available.

If I remember right, daytime prices were lower and more flexible with the true hotties than at night. The more eager girls who were just cute loved a day at the beach and a quick hotel / apartment visit for some cash. It's great to think GDPs are flooding Rio and hitting some of the beach side cafes. Maybe the old days are coming back!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1921631]

Oh well. It is what it is. I like Malaga anyway. You can take a few from VM there at once and bang out cheaply.[/QUOTE]Botto Bar literally across the street from Malaga just won its 4th consecutive annual #1 award for best draft beer selection in Rio.

[QUOTE=Ronaldo10;1921645]. The more eager girls who were just cute loved a day at the beach and a quick hotel / apartment visit for some cash. It's great to think GDPs are flooding Rio and hitting some of the beach side cafes. Maybe the old days are coming back![/QUOTE]I would expect a flood because there is a lot of foreign tourist in town looking for action. Ever since help closed, a lot of gringos hardly visit Brazil like the golden days of the 90's and early 2000's. So a lot of GDP stay home, you will only have your hardcore. If your are looking to make money, this is your best chance!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1921665]Botto Bar literally across the street from Malaga just won its 4th consecutive annual #1 award for best draft beer selection in Rio.[/QUOTE]Boom you can take 2 birds from vm and get them liquored up there and then get to the botto(m) of what theyre all about at malaga! Sounds like a plan!

[QUOTE=Ronaldo10;1921645]Great news that the beach in front of Rio Othon is buzzing. Years back, it was hard to just sit back and chill with so many hotties available.

If I remember right, daytime prices were lower and more flexible with the true hotties than at night. The more eager girls who were just cute loved a day at the beach and a quick hotel / apartment visit for some cash. It's great to think GDPs are flooding Rio and hitting some of the beach side cafes. Maybe the old days are coming back![/QUOTE]Its definetely cheaper daytime allthough they try the olympic rates on you! Tell them "no problem-good luck gettin that-ill be here all afternoon-when your credit runs out on your pre-pago TIM phone and your belly starts to rumble and no one else has bitten, come back and see me".

Arrived to town yesterday a little late, stashed my stuff in my apartment in Leme and then went to see beach volleyball. The beach is obviously packed and crazy. I had made plans to meet up in Lapa with a girl off Cupid and I had originally planned on hitting MC but since I was late I thought I would give Delirio a try.

It's on the second floor and in suite 201. No signs on the door but just knock and enter. Front desk girl welcomed me and sat me in a very small room that had porn playing and asked me if I wanted girls. I said of course and she said wait a minute. Moments later all the available girls there came and introduced themselves. Rebecca, Renata and Luisa they were all decent looking and were not far off from their photos online. I choose Rebecca for an hour. The manager then collected the 200 reais and she took me to one of the 4 rooms onsite. Inside was a bed and not much else.

First I asked about shower since I was still in my travel clothes from the night before and I had just walked the beach after the game. I wanted to freshen up a little since I'm sure I smelled like swamp ass. While waiting for the one shower down the hall Rebecca came in and started a heavy make out session and stripped me and gave me a towel. Once free I went to clean up and returned and Rebecca attacked at that point. IMO Brazilian are the most passionate lovers whether they are pros, or non pros. More kissing and getting her naked and playing with her smallish boobs. She then started a decent BBBJ, then started licking my balls and then continued lower and the nasty little ho started cleaning my ass both inside and out with her tongue (good thing I showered) felt amazing of course until I started thinking I just heavily made out with her. Whose ass was she deep into an hour before?

After that the sex started and she liked it more frantic and rough and even had me put my hand around her throat while I fucked her from behind. Later she had a standing and she jumped into my arms and had me fuck her in the arms against the mirrored wall. Lucky I knew I only had an hour with her as a whole night probably would've ended up with me in the hospital. I finished on her tits and then went to shower again. When I returned I started to get dressed as I had only 10 minutes left in session and about an hour before I needed to be in Lapa. She wasn't having any of that and got on my lap and started making out with me again. Finally ended and got dressed and left. Definitely a good session and will be back to see her again and see if others girls are available at Deli.

Lapa and the Cupid girl were fun. I expected a bigger crowd honestly but we were there early because she had to work early next day. Cute little university girl that spoke perfect English. She however was playing hard to get and wasn't into first date "fun". Before she got on her bus she hugged me and whispered that Saturday will be more exciting.

I then took a cab close to Barbarella to grab a couple drinks, relax and maybe get some numbers. The place was even more of a shark tank than usual. I arrived early and their was maybe 6-8 dudes and about 70 predators stalking every guy that entered. I was literally never alone for more than 10 seconds. After I would send a girl away with a line like sorry " I just arrived today and I am tired, no compania tonight" BAM another girl or two would sit down. Overall most girls were 7-8's. A couple of 9's and oddly a couple really big girls, I mean really big. Whichever of you fuckers takes these girls are really sickos.

Overall Rio is packed now. I ran into some Italian girls at the pharmacy and some chicks from Latvia just after the volleyball game. There is action all over just depends on the time, money, effort and your game. Über has been super easy for getting around. OK off to watch basketball and swimming.

Friday night had finished earlier events and decided to hit MC around 8 pm since I needed to kill time before beach volleyball started at 1130 pm.

Entered the boite about 830 or so and there was only 2 guys in there and about 30 girls at least. No kidding only two. As I entered to say all eyes were on me would be on understatement. I went to the bar first to get away from most of the hungry wolves and got a Red bull. I was immediately approached by "Isabella" who was a decent looking brunette a 7.5 approximately but she spoke good English and told me a couple things. The club was much slower in the Olympics than all the girls had hoped for. And the 3 NBA stars did take a several girls upstairs each. I told her that's not what's on news in States and she called over a girl that did fuck one of them.

At this point the little fag that works the locker room came up and got me and said the old hag masseuse was ready. So downstairs we went. Both the fag and the hag also confirmed things were a little slow. Massage was decent and then took a long steam before returning to the bar. Now 930 pm there was about 6 guys. Isabella tried to snag me again but I used a pick and roll around a couple big girls and broke free. Back at bar I got approached by a cute morena with braces on who went by the name.

Morena. Her English was as bad as my Portuguese but she spoke decent Spanish. She also confirmed that the NBA guys went upstairs. It was getting to be 10 pm and I had tickets for volleyball across the street in 1. 5 hours so I pulled the trigger on Morena and we went upstairs for an hour. She had an unreal body with perfectly done tits and a seriously big Brazilian bunda. Session started well with lots of kissing and after some more foreplay she put me on my back and began a whole 10 second BBBJ she then stopped and licked my balls then lifted them up with one hand and pushed my leg up and out with the other then plunged her tongue deep in my ass! I've got no idea what's up the last two days but I've gotten more of my ass being licked than my dick being licked. Nasty girl thrust past the anal sphincter and was seriously up in my intestine. The rest of the session was decent by Brazilian standards. Afterward we had 10 minutes and we cuddled for a bit then she gave me her whatsapp and we agreed to hit the beach Monday afternoon before her work and my Olympics tickets.

Prices now are 470 for 40 min and 610 reais for an hour.

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to give a quick update. On the ground 36 hours and banged 3 hotties including 2 porn stars already. Ordered the Pornstars via WhatsApp after getting their contact info. I have 2 other porn stars lined up also from online services and an additional two I'm waiting on responses from! 4 x 4 is jumping of course. There is really something for everyone here. I chose Isabella for an hour and she was an amazing mix of passion, romance, and raw sexual prowess. She agreed to come to the apartment with a friend for 200 R each for either all night or a daytime festa on Saturday! I just got molested by the friend who has a great girl next door look and a thick body with smallish enhanced tits. Both white in skin tone. Isabella is brunette and Ana is blonde-ish. I really hope I don't find anything better because I believe it will be an awesome time. Leaving now at 8:30 to check out Monte Carlo back in Copa near my apartment. Where's the new Meia Pataca where dudes go to share stories and pick up strays? Photos and phone contacts will come later.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1923040] I really hope I don't find anything better because I believe it will be an awesome time. Leaving now at 8:30 to check out Monte Carlo back in Copa near my apartment. [/QUOTE]Well, as luck would have it. There's always something better! After being completely worn out by all the thick, fit girls I've been banging till now, I decided to look for something more petite. As soon as I walked into Monte Carlo, I met eyes with a beautiful morena with long, shiny, black hair, great make up, light brown eyes and a great pair of natural C/ D cups. This girl was gorgeous. Name is Mia. After I got her attention and she came over and the initial introduction, I started getting a vibe of not interested. Just basically rubbing my leg but looking around disconnected. So, I started stumbling through my Porto-Spanish and we began to hit it off a little bit. After I told her I was a bit of a romantic and she reluctantly revealed the same (they all say they like everything, but I pressed her for particulars), she was very warm and sincere. A great 40 min in the room after eating some nuggets and a couple of drinks. She was very vocal in a squeamish sort of way, which I like. She really was exactly what I was looking for: a slow tempo, passionate girl that wasn't trying to go through the sex Olympics with me. Pure girlfriend experience (namoradinha). A couple drinks after the deed and the damage was total 533 R including the food and other drinks. More than I budgeted for but no complaints! Its almost 1 am. On my way to check out Barbarella's or some appealing food, whichever I run into first. The girl from 4 x 4 is supposed to come by after work for the rest of the night (after 3 am), we'll see if that happens!

Rodeo out!

I was looking at Airbnb places in Rio. The area in between the two popular beaches seems ideal. Would that be a good place to rent?

Hey all,

Long time follower first time poster. Will be in Copacabana in RJ this week into next. Also may be in Campos Dos Goytacazes if anyone wants to get together for a drink and hit up some spots!

Will be posting and reporting!

Also, how are you all using whatsapp to meet people? I've just been finding people on fb.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1923113]I was looking at Airbnb places in Rio. The area in between the two popular beaches seems ideal. Would that be a good place to rent?[/QUOTE]It is called Arpoador. It is as good a place as any.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1923113]I was looking at Airbnb places in Rio. The area in between the two popular beaches seems ideal. Would that be a good place to rent?[/QUOTE]That's almost the best place in Rio. I also looking for a house in Rio beach, but hard to find as it's Olympic game period.

Hey guys,

Been in Rio for almost a week now but was busy with the games. Finally managed to get around. Headed to Villa mimosa. I just couldn't get myself to try any of the girls there. A bit too overwhelming for me.

Headed out to Copacabana from there. Went to Barbarella. That was more to my suiting. A lot of talent there. Every chick that I called or came over quoted 600 to begin with! Olympic prices?? A few came down to 400. But nothing less. Went back alone as it was almost 4 am and had a long. Day planned today. Will visit a few bars later this week. Am staying at lapa so got a few termas like Rio Antigo and quatro por quatro lined up today.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1923323]Hey guys,

Been in Rio for almost a week now but was busy with the games. Finally managed to get around. Headed to Villa mimosa. I just couldn't get myself to try any of the girls there. A bit too overwhelming for me.

Headed out to Copacabana from there. Went to Barbarella. That was more to my suiting. A lot of talent there. Every chick that I called or came over quoted 600 to begin with! Olympic prices?? A few came down to 400. But nothing less. Went back alone as it was almost 4 am and had a long. Day planned today. Will visit a few bars later this week. Am staying at lapa so got a few termas like Rio Antigo and quatro por quatro lined up today.[/QUOTE]Try 502,Cancun,119,Aeroporto, mv30,Florida bar, subsolo etc -alot more to Centro than what you mentioned. Good motel is rio sevilha for take out.
With Villa MImosa,I was just there,u have to do the rounds-make small talk-see who seems cool-gives u a good vibe..then u can TD for 30 to see...minimal damage...if its good can continue in room and pay more.
If not move on to a next one.
I found a great one tonight.Light skinned latina,mulatta with big curly hair and nice natural tits and a great smile.80 reais for 1 hour!
Thats ridiculous..Gave her 40 reais for BBBJ/CIM but still...cheap as chips..and she was 18 and a stunner.
She will come for a noite toda...probably for a used phone..she didnt have a phone...crazy...i have a used Iphone 4..that shd give me couple nights with her..but more importantly we had great chemistry.
Many positions and it was her birthday last sunday..she sucked great d..k...........kissed great.......just a diamond...3rd one i have found there thats a keeper.........last 2 were 18 and 19 respectively.Both mini-relationships...no money..food,drinks,nice bed............always slip em 100,150....after a day and a half and a cab home just because.......its the right thing to do..the girls there are dirt poor many of them so if they go in and deliver beyond the call of duty with a smile,they deserve but dont get spoiled...i havent found that a present has turned them into lazy,clock-watchers..not at all....i like the regular ones from there....normal girls..yes there are thieves but they are easy to spot..they are quick,hustlin,always on the move..move in2/3s,schemin always...,always dancin provocatively.....

[QUOTE=Traceur;1923323]Finally managed to get around. Headed to Villa mimosa. I just couldn't get myself to try any of the girls there. A bit too overwhelming for me.[/QUOTE]It takes some people a minute to warm up to VM. The first time I took my dad there he was the same way. But the next night when we went he was ready for action.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1923323]Headed out to Copacabana from there. Went to Barbarella. That was more to my suiting. A lot of talent there. Every chick that I called or came over quoted 600 to begin with! Olympic prices?? A few came down to 400.[/QUOTE]I think Barbarella used to start off at 500 on any given day. So if they are starting off at 600 during the games then it is not far off.

Upon visiting Dudas Massages today. 130 R for 30 min (selected Natalia. 20 y / o with braces and a nice chunk for an ass, though petite), I was informed that they would be closed tomorrow for an Olympic Holiday. Plan accordingly. I'm assuming the other prives will be closed as well, possibly Termas also. Anyone know for sure about the termas?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1923690]I think Barbarella used to start off at 500 on any given day. So if they are starting off at 600 during the games then it is not far off.[/QUOTE]Barbarella girls have had a starting asking price of 600 to 700 reals since I have been going to Rio, so it's definitely not an Olympics-related thing. That said, I've found it pretty easy to talk a Barbarella girl down to 400 reals, and even 300 if she was desperate enough. I got a Barbarella girl for 300 reals all night once. Now, it could be that during the games the girls are holding firm because mongers are willing to pay the asking price. I don't know, but in normal times one should never need to pay 600 to 700 reals to pull a Barbarella girl for a few hours. If she won't come down, then tell her to gets ta stepping!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1923690]It takes some people a minute to warm up to VM. The first time I took my dad there he was the same way. But the next night when we went he was ready for action.

I think Barbarella used to start off at 500 on any given day. So if they are starting off at 600 during the games then it is not far off.[/QUOTE]Olympic fever has gripped every GDP! Even some in MV30 are tryin 500 por noite toda! Looool gtfooh.

Rely on good old VM to grab some diamonds who don't even have a phone for 150-200 for the night. Love that. 18 and full of energy-and they hotter than 610 for an hour MC birds who tryin for 700 per noite. Lool gtfooh!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1923690]It takes some people a minute to warm up to VM.[/QUOTE]
Very true. Or maybe a few years? One example is one of our posters who used to describe VM as a highly dangerous and edgy place. Now it's "Rely on good old VM to grab some diamonds". That's progress.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1923883]Very true. Or maybe a few years? One example is one of our posters who used to describe VM as a highly dangerous and edgy place. Now it's "Rely on good old VM to grab some diamonds". That's progress.[/QUOTE]Only a fool wouldn't recognize VM as quite a high-risk area. Wtf does that have to do with there being diamonds? There always has been diamonds-doesn't mean you don't have to watch your step at times.
Ironically enough Sperto,there was a fight in the main street last night involving 5/6 dudes.I was there...Didnt spoil the night-was over pretty quickly....still found a good one...in general VM is ok but there are definetely some edgy characters at times.

My schedule is so packed with events, I might not get anywhere until the evening or night of the 22nd. My other issue is I'm staying with family. I want to head to some bars at Copacabana or at least have a couple drinks that night. Are there any good MP or FS places near there? I'm in Barra, so I can go anywhere, but figured it would be my only time I can ditch everyone since the Olympics will be over. I'm gringo so I need somewhere safe. I took the main subway line to Central station before and that was a bit sketchy. Do you guys leave your phones where you're staying?

Solarium is having a party to celebrate 38 years, on 23 August. You can get 5 Budweisers or Stellas, apparently, if you print out and bring the flyer attached. Maybe it works if you save it on your phone and show them. Now granted the beer is shit, but at least you can share it with the chicks so you don't have to buy them drinks!

This helpful info brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Cartman.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1923040]Hey everyone,

Just wanted to give a quick update. On the ground 36 hours and banged 3 hotties including 2 porn stars already. Ordered the Pornstars via WhatsApp after getting their contact info. I have 2 other porn stars lined up also from online services and an additional two I'm waiting on responses from! 4 x 4 is jumping of course. There is really something for everyone here. I chose Isabella for an hour and she was an amazing mix of passion, romance, and raw sexual prowess. She agreed to come to the apartment with a friend for 200 R each for either all night or a daytime festa on Saturday! I just got molested by the friend who has a great girl next door look and a thick body with smallish enhanced tits. Both white in skin tone. Isabella is brunette and Ana is blonde-ish. I really hope I don't find anything better because I believe it will be an awesome time. Leaving now at 8:30 to check out Monte Carlo back in Copa near my apartment. Where's the new Meia Pataca where dudes go to share stories and pick up strays? Photos and phone contacts will come later.[/QUOTE]Please share more info on the porn stars, including what you paid and contact details or where you got the numbers. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1923091]On my way to check out Barbarella's or some appealing food, whichever I run into first. The girl from 4 x 4 is supposed to come by after work for the rest of the night (after 3 am), we'll see if that happens!

Rodeo out![/QUOTE]Dude, if you are heading to Barbarella's and you don't go eat at Cervantes just down the street (corner of Prado Junior and Barata Ribeiro), you are missing out. Can't beat the classic filet mignon sandwich with pinapple and cheese, and the pernil (roasted pork leg) and peru (turkey) are both also super good. The winner are the scalding hot french fries dipped in the house chili sauce (pimenta). They pour a generous Cuba libre, have really great fresh orange juice (get it with no ice, no sugar), and move a shit ton of Brahma chopp (if that's your thing).

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1923931]Only a fool wouldn't recognize VM as quite a high-risk area. Wtf does that have to do with there being diamonds? There always has been diamonds-doesn't mean you don't have to watch your step at times.
Ironically enough Sperto,there was a fight in the main street last night involving 5/6 dudes.I was there...Didnt spoil the night-was over pretty quickly....still found a good one...in general VM is ok but there are definetely some edgy characters at times.[/QUOTE]I'll have to agree.

I've been to VM many times, actually getting to know people out there, and not just the girls.

The Tias, pirate taxi guys, street vendors, etc.

Fun can certainly be had and there are diamonds out there, especially if you're good at the hunt, and of course speaking the lingo helps immensely.

Definitely and edgy place though, especially on the outskirts, and some shady looking dudes coming through at times.

I've seen a few fights out there myself, with the garota cat fight being the most violent.

Just got to keep your basic wits about you, and security measures up, not being dumb.

I enjoy passing through the area, some of my amigos surely don't.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1924056]I'll have to agree.

I've been to VM many times, actually getting to know people out there, and not just the girls.

The Tias, pirate taxi guys, street vendors, etc.

Fun can certainly be had and there are diamonds out there, especially if you're good at the hunt, and of course speaking the lingo helps immensely.

Definitely and edgy place though, especially on the outskirts, and some shady looking dudes coming through at times.

I've seen a few fights out there myself, with the garota cat fight being the most violent.

Just got to keep your basic wits about you, and security measures up, not being dumb.

I enjoy passing through the area, some of my amigos surely don't.[/QUOTE]Absolutely love VM. Yes you get more duds than normal but that goes with the territory and price. Many are drugged up, snortin in room or on other shit but hey. Its VM! The second last stop on the GDP metro line! Kkkkk.

I have found 4 diamonds there. Many others were absolutely fine in room -some shit-some hustlers but 4 that turned into to something outside. And those mini-relationships were/are always way cheaper than city terma girls but definetely not worse.They expect less as they already chose to work in VM........i mean you wouldnt charge Centaurus per noite prices if you work for 80 reais for an hour!!! so keep diggin.Its worth the hassle and might take 3/4 trips to find a great one for outside excursions/hang time.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1923955]Solarium is having a party to celebrate 38 years, on 23 August. You can get 5 Budweisers or Stellas, apparently, if you print out and bring the flyer attached. Maybe it works if you save it on your phone and show them. Now granted the beer is shit, but at least you can share it with the chicks so you don't have to buy them drinks!

This helpful info brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Cartman.[/QUOTE]Is Solarium still snow white in terms of talent?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1923815]Upon visiting Dudas Massages today. 130 R for 30 min (selected Natalia. 20 y / o with braces and a nice chunk for an ass, though petite), I was informed that they would be closed tomorrow for an Olympic Holiday. Plan accordingly. I'm assuming the other prives will be closed as well, possibly Termas also. Anyone know for sure about the termas?[/QUOTE]I was told the same thing in a few Centro spots yesterday. I arrived kinda late in Centro due to the game so I could not get in a good run. In catching up with a girl I had been hoping to link with, as she had only had 20 minutes before her next appointment, I told I'd come back on Friday since they would be closed today. She says she is working and has texted this morning to ask what time would I like to stop by. On my way to Delirio and Eden to see if they are in motion today. I hope this doesn't mean the termas will closed today as well.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1924114]Is Solarium still snow white in terms of talent?[/QUOTE]There are a few flavor pieces in there now to spice it up but not many. I saw some Morenas and Morena Claras but didn't session. If I remember correctly it was 710 reias for an hour so I didn't session but I did get some numbers to follow up with on WhatsApp.

There's no response at Eden Spa but Delirio is open today, taking the last session at 21:00. Seven Beach will be opened until 03:00 (yes, that's 3 am).

Hobby on.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1923323]Hey guys,

Been in Rio for almost a week now but was busy with the games. Finally managed to get around. Headed to Villa mimosa. I just couldn't get myself to try any of the girls there. A bit too overwhelming for me.

Headed out to Copacabana from there. Went to Barbarella. That was more to my suiting. A lot of talent there. Every chick that I called or came over quoted 600 to begin with! Olympic prices?? A few came down to 400. But nothing less. Went back alone as it was almost 4 am and had a long. Day planned today. Will visit a few bars later this week. Am staying at lapa so got a few termas like Rio Antigo and quatro por quatro lined up today.[/QUOTE]Barbarella is always kind of an overpriced hustle. If you don't watch yourself, they will try to fuck you over on your bar tab. Best to just order beers or caipirinhas and keep close count.

Although Quatro por Quatro might have had better years, it is generally considered the best termas in Centro. Of course, as it has been said many, many times it only takes one girl. You might find that one girl in the lousiest termas, club or massage clinic and have the best time of your trip. I'm curious how you will find Quatro por Quatro (4 x4). Barbarella will typically have stunners, but what makes 4 X4 for most men is the quantity with a few very attractive girls, the chill atmosphere (you might want to stay all evening) and the performance is typically better. Somehow 4 X4 seems to have very enthusiastic girls. I'm not into anal, but you usually find a girl there that will oblige. Some will excel with their oral skills. Some will treat you like a gym apparatus. Those legs and abs don't stay that way for nothing. .

Some recent reports suggest many professional girls working the beach and cafes around Copa Posto 5. I wonder how serious the activity really is. Even though it's all legal, the city government deliberately try to move that scene away from Copa.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;1924224]Barbarella is always kind of an overpriced hustle. If you don't watch yourself, they will try to fuck you over on your bar tab. Best to just order beers or caipirinhas and keep close count.

Although Quatro por Quatro might have had better years, it is generally considered the best termas in Centro. Of course, as it has been said many, many times it only takes one girl. You might find that one girl in the lousiest termas, club or massage clinic and have the best time of your trip. I'm curious how you will find Quatro por Quatro (4 x4). Barbarella will typically have stunners, but what makes 4 X4 for most men is the quantity with a few very attractive girls, the chill atmosphere (you might want to stay all evening) and the performance is typically better. Somehow 4 X4 seems to have very enthusiastic girls. I'm not into anal, but you usually find a girl there that will oblige. Some will excel with their oral skills. Some will treat you like a gym apparatus. Those legs and abs don't stay that way for nothing. .

Some recent reports suggest many professional girls working the beach and cafes around Copa Posto 5. I wonder how serious the activity really is. Even though it's all legal, the city government deliberately try to move that scene away from Copa.[/QUOTE]They haven't succeeded then.

In front of Othon, p5 and all up and down Nossa, usual haunts-the Vita, Mabs area. Pretty much all of the copa beach that's accesible has gdps now. How do I know?-because I'm gettin approached in broken english all the time.

Even in the pouring rain the hot girls come out to play in VM!

I saw I would say 7 stunners tonight. Morenas, Mulattas, Negras. Pretty packed because of the holiday.

First I took Tai I had a couple of days ago. Beautiful 18 year old Latina / mulatta with curly hair and pretty face, nice bunda and firm tits.

It was 100 for an hour this time but I didn't complain-this girl loves money in her own words-so when I gave her 40 reais as an incentive to forget the camishina for bj she lit up and went to work.

Its was a beautiful long BBBJ-she is incredible at it.

After that banged her with her legs round my neck. She goes in.

She had some colic but kept on. We agreed to do a per noite early next week. Have yet to set $ but 200 is what shell get.

Next I took a dancer who looked like Aaliyah the singer. Morena. Danced on the pole for me in the boate and we had fun in there-was packed. Good chemistry but.

I paid 100 for an hour. After 20 minutes she started saying time's up. We went back and forth a bit and she killed vibe. First 15 were good. Some switch. I went downstairs and complained. Dude gave me back 40 and took some of money out of girls pay. She went nuclear but I left them to it. Was a fucked up turn of events and luckily doesn't happen that often but VM is full of unstable girls or girls who despite having good chemistry with you will try it on at any given time..tonight was another one of those unfortunately. Shit happens and has happened to me before a few times there.
its tempting to go for the stunners but sometimes its better to go for the tier below who have sth to prove.

I stopped by Florida Bar otw home. Was about 8 girls there. Its rarely packed and they charge 300 per hour now! Kkkkkk VM had 7/8 girls who made all the girls at Florida look like fat, toothless pensioners. Different league. Florida fell off a while back. I used to pick up a gem there now and again and for 200 for an hour it was acceptable. ID mostly take one out of there. 50 for the boate it used to be. Now they got uglier girls and higher prices! Parabens cara!

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1924152]There are a few flavor pieces in there now to spice it up but not many. I saw some Morenas and Morena Claras but didn't session. If I remember correctly it was 710 reias for an hour so I didn't session but I did get some numbers to follow up with on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]710 for an hour. Solarium are sniffin that colombian yayo.

You could fuck 7 VM stunners for an hour each or 3 duplas incl Malaga motel which is just as comfy as Solarium! Lool.

Mind you MC is probably close to that now for 1 hour. Centaurus is more now.

Those prices are creepin closer to Club Vive and the likes in Madrid.

Ill stick to the dark side and avoid the mouse traps.

Solarium is almost as expensive as Sydney (Australia) I can't judge this terma, I have never been there, I can't pay 700 reais for a session in Brazil. , I prefer termas in the centro (4 por 4 and Cancun) it is cheaper facility is better in 4 por 4 than Cancun, the girls in these termas are not aggressive, it is what I like, it is safe, the girl quality is good, you can relax. 330 reais one hour session in 4 por4 and 320 reais one hour session +70 reas consumption in Cancun you can get watsap numbers if you want woman Sunday and Saturday, I don't know now if the price changed for Olympic, you have to be careful of the staff in the bar downstairs (4 por 4), they will add 10 per cent taxes in the price if you are new because you don't know and you are like a sucker it was when I was in the bar downstairs fortunately I did not pay because it was not my first time in 4 por 4 but first time in the bar, the staff in 4 por 4 always ask tip I never tipped in Cancun I've never had problems with the staff they never asked me tip.

I was in Florida in June the club is nice but there are not many girls. Vila mimosa is not really dangerous, it is more for poor Brazilians I visited villa mimosa at 12 am but I did not monger I've never felt threatened many ugly and average women and few beautiful women, the rooms are dirty the street is smelly.

I don't really like Mabs and clubs in Copa, it is hit or miss but more often miss, Kalabria sucks, Barbarella sucks, Dolce Vita sucks, more often bad experience, there are many touts on the street trying to bring you to the bar.

I m sure most termas changed the price in the Olympics, if they changed hope the prices will be normal by September.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1924476]Solarium is almost as expensive as Sydney (Australia)

I don't really like Mabs and clubs in Copa, it is hit or miss but more often miss, Kalabria sucks, Barbarella sucks, Dolce Vita sucks, more often bad experience, there are many touts on the street trying to bring you to the bar.

I m sure most termas changed the price in the Olympics, if they changed hope the prices will be normal by September.[/QUOTE]I'm not too worried on the price. The Olympics is pretty much over, I'm pretty sure Brazil will break even on the money they spent on the olympics because I heard tourist projections are pretty low because all the zika scare, and the crime. So I'm pretty confident you will see the Real 4 to 1 by The End of September and 5 to 1 by the end of the year.

Are they out of their minds? These prices can't hold after the Olympics.

You can find stunning escorts in Rio or Sao Paulo who will thoroughly entertain you with multiple hits for 350/400 Reais - 90 minutes.

I love the vibe at some of the Termas. Every guy likes the thrill of walking into the lounge and checking out the selection. But, that's why I'm paying an entrance fee, buying drinks and buying some food.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1923040]Hey everyone,

Just wanted to give a quick update. On the ground 36 hours and banged 3 hotties including 2 porn stars already. Ordered the Pornstars via WhatsApp after getting their contact info. I have 2 other porn stars lined up also from online services and an additional two I'm waiting on responses from! 4 x 4 is jumping of course. There is really something for everyone here. I chose Isabella for an hour and she was an amazing mix of passion, romance, and raw sexual prowess. She agreed to come to the apartment with a friend for 200 R each for either all night or a daytime festa on Saturday! I just got molested by the friend who has a great girl next door look and a thick body with smallish enhanced tits. Both white in skin tone. Isabella is brunette and Ana is blonde-ish. I really hope I don't find anything better because I believe it will be an awesome time. Leaving now at 8:30 to check out Monte Carlo back in Copa near my apartment. Where's the new Meia Pataca where dudes go to share stories and pick up strays? Photos and phone contacts will come later.[/QUOTE]Still hoping for useful details on the porn starts, including price, service levels, where you found them, how we can get in touch, etc. Please share.

[QUOTE=AyranMan;1923944]My schedule is so packed with events, I might not get anywhere until the evening or night of the 22nd. My other issue is I'm staying with family. I want to head to some bars at Copacabana or at least have a couple drinks that night. Are there any good MP or FS places near there? I'm in Barra, so I can go anywhere, but figured it would be my only time I can ditch everyone since the Olympics will be over. I'm gringo so I need somewhere safe. I took the main subway line to Central station before and that was a bit sketchy. Do you guys leave your phones where you're staying?[/QUOTE]Yea the central area is kinda sketchy. I have been in lapa and. Copa so far. Didn't have any issues yet.

[QUOTE=Ronaldo10;1924571]Are they out of their minds? These prices can't hold after the Olympics.

You can find stunning escorts in Rio or Sao Paulo who will thoroughly entertain you with multiple hits for 350/400 Reais - 90 minutes.

I love the vibe at some of the Termas. Every guy likes the thrill of walking into the lounge and checking out the selection. But, that's why I'm paying an entrance fee, buying drinks and buying some food.[/QUOTE]Part of the issue is that inflation has been running at 10% per year for the past 5+years in Brazil / Rio, and each year basically everyone who works at businesses gets a 10% inflation adjustment to their pay or to their fees. It affects salaries, rent payments, suppliers, etc. So what started at BRL 400 6 years ago, assuming 10% inflation pe year, ends up around BRL 700 today. That's not the ONLY cause, but it's one cause behind the prices seeming much higher today than they were 5+ years ago. Plus there is the BR mentality that it's better to sell something 1 x per week at BRL 700 than to sell it 3 x at 400 (less work LOL). Plus Termas always have, for some reason, never really incentivized the hour session over the 40 minute session, and that BRL price is just to disincentivize the hour, one could argue. If you must TD at the Zona Sul termas, stick to 40 minute TDs and then get the deets for outside-T fun. If the girl won't give them or wants too much, don't put the pussy on a pedestal -- lots of other choices for cheaper. At current FX, BRL 700 is like USD 215, and that goes a long way.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1924355]

Mind you MC is probably close to that now for 1 hour. Centaurus is more now.

Those prices are creepin closer to Club Vive and the likes in Madrid.[/QUOTE]MC's current tax is 110 reais for entry; 170 for the suite for one hour; 360 for the girl; 50 for vodka and redbull (vodka Internacional and Energetico); 20 reais for a Caipirinha. Your tab thru the door after and an hour session is 640 before eats and drinks.

The "casas" have definitely been easiest on the pocket and the extras go a long way.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1924907]Part of the issue is that inflation has been running at 10% per year for the past 5+years in Brazil / Rio, and each year basically everyone who works at businesses gets a 10% inflation adjustment to their pay or to their fees. It affects salaries, rent payments, suppliers, etc. So what started at BRL 400 6 years ago, assuming 10% inflation pe year, ends up around BRL 700 today. That's not the ONLY cause, but it's one cause behind the prices seeming much higher today than they were 5+ years ago. Plus there is the BR mentality that it's better to sell something 1 x per week at BRL 700 than to sell it 3 x at 400 (less work LOL). Plus Termas always have, for some reason, never really incentivized the hour session over the 40 minute session, and that BRL price is just to disincentivize the hour, one could argue. If you must TD at the Zona Sul termas, stick to 40 minute TDs and then get the deets for outside-T fun. If the girl won't give them or wants too much, don't put the pussy on a pedestal -- lots of other choices for cheaper. At current FX, BRL 700 is like USD 215, and that goes a long way.[/QUOTE]That's why Copacabana, Ipanema are to avoid, price more expensive less work (40 minutes) , I will never pay 215 us dollars for 40 minutes in a developing country. The maximum I pay in Brazil is 90 or 100 dollars one hour session in a terma, the girl must be very gorgeous, beautiful with a perfect body if I pick a freelancer I pay between 50 and 70 dollars.

With 215 us dollar for 1 hour session you can get between 2 and 4 russian girls in Russia, depends on the location, 1 girl in Sydney, 2 girls in Czech Republic, 1 girl in Germany, 1 girl in Holland. 1 girl in Japan.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1924907]Part of the issue is that inflation has been running at 10% per year for the past 5+years in Brazil / Rio, and each year basically everyone who works at businesses gets a 10% inflation adjustment to their pay or to their fees. It affects salaries, rent payments, suppliers, etc. So what started at BRL 400 6 years ago, assuming 10% inflation pe year, ends up around BRL 700 today. That's not the ONLY cause, but it's one cause behind the prices seeming much higher today than they were 5+ years ago. Plus there is the BR mentality that it's better to sell something 1 x per week at BRL 700 than to sell it 3 x at 400 (less work LOL). Plus Termas always have, for some reason, never really incentivized the hour session over the 40 minute session, and that BRL price is just to disincentivize the hour, one could argue. If you must TD at the Zona Sul termas, stick to 40 minute TDs and then get the deets for outside-T fun. If the girl won't give them or wants too much, don't put the pussy on a pedestal -- lots of other choices for cheaper. At current FX, BRL 700 is like USD 215, and that goes a long way.[/QUOTE]Good points Cartman.

There are still a few termas keeping prices in perspective like MV30/ T31/ Black & White on the lower scale but it is true they all tweak the prices yearly. Mind you, this year I have found VM cheaper at 80 reais per hour for some stunners. That's 40/50 reais cheaper than normal but that's not general. Still many there charging 130 an hour. Its better to do 30 minutes there to avoid time cheating. Then session again if good. TD TD with low outlay.

Failing all the BS, hit the beach and chat up girls. I bagged a 22 year ol negra gostosa with a sick body and a cute smile yesterday at P5 from Bonsucceso-who was just stayin with her GF and GF's family in the favela in Copa for weekend. Not a GDP. Normal girl. Hit Lapa then hit that ass. Copa is a great place for talking to girls. Apart from Lapa and Bloccos of course- but there alot of people are on the move in Lapa / Blocoos-beach is easier and Copa has all kinds of people who arent moving for a few hours!

My 2 cents.

Here are some updates:

1. Termas 65 is definitely closed.

2. Nighttime place to be is definitely Mabs. Quality ranges, but will find girls from Termas and Barberella there as well.

3. Centaurus is open, but very aggressive girls. Pricing is 640 Rs for a session. 160 is the entrance fee. Usually 30-40 girls a night.

4. 4 x 4 is open (only weekdays), but somehow goes completely dead by 11 pm. Some 4 x 4 girls go to Mabs or Barberella afterwards. Fee is 50 entry, 330 for 40 minutes, or 350 for 1 hour. The fifty is refunded if you take someone before 6 pm.

5. Barberella is 80 Rs entrance and gives you 2 domestic drinks or 1 premium international drink. Also, if you take someone out it is a 80 Rs fee to take out a girl.

6. Taxis are usually 20 to Ipanema, 30-35 to Centro, 70 to Barra.

7. Still miss Help. Was a cool place. Nothing replaces it.

8. Dolce Vita sucks, bad attitude for door people and 50 Rs entry.

9. Mabs is a good spot, usually after 11 pm.

10. Not as busy or as expensive (with exception of hotel rooms) during Olympics. I think the crowds during Olympics is completely different than during World Cup.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1924921]MC's current tax is 110 reais for entry; 170 for the suite for one hour; 360 for the girl; 50 for vodka and redbull (vodka Internacional and Energetico); 20 reais for a Caipirinha. Your tab thru the door after and an hour session is 640 before eats and drinks.

The "casas" have definitely been easiest on the pocket and the extras go a long way.[/QUOTE]640 for an hour is getting stupid.

Some of the girls will also try and use the fact that you can afford to go there for an hour to hike up outside rendez-vous and argue you should pay close to it per noite.

Again that's 3. 5 hours in T31,6 hours in VM,2.5 hours in MV30,4 hours in B and W,2.5 hours in 502,2 hours in Cancun,0.8 hours in Centaurus! LOL.

Sorry but the girls arent even hot in there. Theres an occasional stunner but its rare IMHO.

I have a free entrance etc and I don't even feel like going.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle;1925051]Here are some updates:

1. Termas 65 is definitely closed.

2. Nighttime place to be is definitely Mabs. Quality ranges, but will find girls from Termas and Barberella there as well.

3. Centaurus is open, but very aggressive girls. Pricing is 640 Rs for a session. 160 is the entrance fee. Usually 30-40 girls a night.

4. 4 x 4 is open (only weekdays), but somehow goes completely dead by 11 pm. Some 4 x 4 girls go to Mabs or Barberella afterwards. Fee is 50 entry, 330 for 40 minutes, or 350 for 1 hour. The fifty is refunded if you take someone before 6 pm.

5. Barberella is 80 Rs entrance and gives you 2 domestic drinks or 1 premium international drink. Also, if you take someone out it is a 80 Rs fee to take out a girl.

6. Taxis are usually 20 to Ipanema, 30-35 to Centro, 70 to Barra.

7. Still miss Help. Was a cool place. Nothing replaces it.

8. Dolce Vita sucks, bad attitude for door people and 50 Rs entry.

9. Mabs is a good spot, usually after 11 pm.

10. Not as busy or as expensive (with exception of hotel rooms) during Olympics. I think the crowds during Olympics is completely different than during World Cup.[/QUOTE]Night time spot is also VM everyday. Centaurus is a desperate place now. 4 X 4 goes quiet at 11 cause now many girls need to catch the van or omnibus home at night. Also many 4 x 4 girls go to Mosaico in Vila Mimosa which is about 200 for 1 hour and 40 entrance. (please update). I met a few there recently. Its the club type spot with bouncers down the road from VM.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle;1925051]Here are some updates:

1. Termas 65 is definitely closed.[/QUOTE]As of what date did it close again Mike?

Leaving Dolce Vita last night the cashier upstairs rang up my tab. It wasn't anything crazy about the two drink total but something caught my eye. After the subtotal of 46 reias was a "Service Charge (optional)" of 4. 6 reais. So I asked him about it. He stated "your minimum has to be 50 reais and that service charge covers the difference. " Looking at him like "yeah right" I told him that I had already covered 50 reais when I paid to enter and that I'm in no way expected to fulfill a minimum of any kind. "On principle I wasn't budging. He kept trying to sell me on it but no dice, the he spoke with one of the guys who work there and explained to him what was going on. I didn't have to say a word. The second guy and I went downstairs to see the lady at the door, she knew what time it was and simply gave me a head nod telling me not to worry. She told the guy I had paid already and that the tab was closed.

As many time as I'd been to the spot I'd never had this experience and had never heard of a similar situation.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1924907]Plus there is the BR mentality that it's better to sell something 1 x per week at BRL 700 than to sell it 3 x at 400 (less work LOL).[/QUOTE]That mentality is going to keep many girls on a route from termas / prive / clinica directly to their homes without passing "Go".

I mentioned Solarium in a previous post. Met two cuties that night but I was so tired from the flight and work put in before arriving there that I just wanted to sit, observe, and take in the vibe. One cutie comes over and we chat for a bit. I like that she's open to it all and down for the "any way I want to give it to her". Realizing she is little freak, I asked her a about a dupla. There was something in her that re-energized me. She calls her friend over after some chatting I realized the friend wasn't completa and wasn't trying to go all out. She'd let the other do things to her but she wasn't reciprocating the act. Cool. I'm not hanging around any longer so I get a number and tell them I'll contact them later. Three days ago I hit her on WhatsApp (the one who wasn't with the get down) since she was the one with the cell and seemed cool otherwise.

When asked about seeing them outside of the boate her response was, "Então amor para você 500 1 hora só porque você é uma delícia". (Well, Love for you it's 500 reais for an hour because you're a delight). I'm thinking well what the hell, take them on for fun. She then added on "Cada uma tá amor" (Each one that is). After chuckling to myself I asked for clarification for sh*ts and giggles. She confirmed "mil reais" (One thousand reais) at which time I left the conversation. At Solarium, and hour's take might be 360 for an hour.

Last night at Kalabria (just after 03:00 today), I met the sister of a girl I'd spent time with back in '05. We chatted near the bar and as I thought back on how her sister was I really wanted to take her to the room. After maybe 10 minutes of convo I asked about her menu. She wasn't completa and didn't sound like she was even considering anal sex. She gives her price of 400 reias for hour. I looked at her and asked if that was her promotion for the Olympics as she smiled and took a sip of her drink. I continued by telling her that the Olympics is over. She had a look of confusion on her face so I broke it down further by kissing her on the cheeks, and telling her it was great meeting her while wishing her a good night.

Then maybe an hour ago now I get a text from a girl who I'd seen in a Copa prive in June. I'd have taken her that day but by the time she arrived late to work I'd already chosen someone. I bumped into her a couple nights ago at Mabs and got her number as I was leaving to meet someone at my place. Now, at this prive the hour rate was 200 reais in which she'd only get to keep 130 of that. She quotes me 400 reais on the text. Now, if she was to say 200 reais on this rainy day when the Olympics is all but done and Mabs has returned to slow and boring as of last night, and really came through with the energy. She could get repeat money but as we always say here that's just not Brasil logic. It's too bad too because I really wanted to know her body up close and personal.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1924995]Good points Cartman.

There are still a few termas keeping prices in perspective like MV30/ T31/ Black & White on the lower scale but it is true they all tweak the prices yearly. Mind you, this year I have found VM cheaper at 80 reais per hour for some stunners. That's 40/50 reais cheaper than normal but that's not general. Still many there charging 130 an hour. Its better to do 30 minutes there to avoid time cheating. Then session again if good. TD TD with low outlay.

Failing all the BS, hit the beach and chat up girls. I bagged a 22 year ol negra gostosa with a sick body and a cute smile yesterday at P5 from Bonsucceso-who was just stayin with her GF and GF's family in the favela in Copa for weekend. Not a GDP. Normal girl. Hit Lapa then hit that ass. Copa is a great place for talking to girls. Apart from Lapa and Bloccos of course- but there alot of people are on the move in Lapa / Blocoos-beach is easier and Copa has all kinds of people who arent moving for a few hours!

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Hey,

How easy it to pick up non pros at Copa? Ll be staying there for a few days. Meu Portuguese horrivel BTW.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1925393]That mentality is going to keep many girls on a route from termas / prive / clinica directly to their homes without passing "Go".



Then maybe an hour ago now I get a text from a girl who I'd seen in a Copa prive in June. I'd have taken her that day but by the time she arrived late to work I'd already chosen someone. I bumped into her a couple nights ago at Mabs and got her number as I was leaving to meet someone at my place. Now, at this prive the hour rate was 200 reais in which she'd only get to keep 130 of that. She quotes me 400 reais on the text. Now, if she was to say 200 reais on this rainy day when the Olympics is all but done and Mabs has returned to slow and boring as of last night, and really came through with the energy. She could get repeat money but as we always say here that's just not Brasil logic. It's too bad too because I really wanted to know her body up close and personal.[/QUOTE]I have talked to a few girls on whatsapp and the general consensus was "The Olympics was not the financial windfall that they had thought it would be". Many were especially complaining that the beach was full of families and non mongers so they weren't pulling many dates.

I also had the same exact issue with terma girls when I was in Rio this year. They wanted the same price and sometimes more, than what I would have paid for an hour in the terma. When I tried to explain that "the reason why I asked for your number was so I could pay less money that I was in 4 x4" they just looked at me like I had 3 heads.

So I called up at Aeroporto and was told they will. Open only on Tuesday. Went to try out the massage at 13 maio and they are closed too. Man nothing for two days now?

[QUOTE=Traceur;1925411]Hey,

How easy it to pick up non pros at Copa? Ll be staying there for a few days. Meu Portuguese horrivel BTW.[/QUOTE]I would have to be honest and say probably very hard without portugese-I mean even with portugese they still got to be into you.

Doesn't mean it can't happen if you are a charmer and they like your vibe!.

I met one Friday and that's been a go.

Sexo first night. After night out in Lapa. That's not a normality-sometimes good shit happens.

Met 2 others-both had boyfriends and neither of them are at sexo stage yet-but communicating.

Thats the reality of speaking to 3. There re tons of others I could have spoken to but they were not hot to me. Those 3 were stunners in my book.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1925432]I have talked to a few girls on whatsapp and the general consensus was "The Olympics was not the financial windfall that they had thought it would be". Many were especially complaining that the beach was full of families and non mongers so they weren't pulling many dates.

I also had the same exact issue with terma girls when I was in Rio this year. They wanted the same price and sometimes more, than what I would have paid for an hour in the terma. When I tried to explain that "the reason why I asked for your number was so I could pay less money that I was in 4 x4" they just looked at me like I had 3 heads.[/QUOTE]Honestly during major events you would have to get girls who don't seek gringos to get fair price or non-pros or ones you have had previous with.

World Cup was the same.

If you come through in October its back to normal again.

Para-Olympics wont attract many and MC dont have wheel-chair access last time I checked.

Especially if they haven't juiced the Olympics like they hoped, the mentality here is to try and squeeze every last bit out of everyone so Olympics is not price-friendly.

VM is and a dime from there outside wouldn't cost that much.

Tomorrow I'm hookin up with old flame from VM-she isn't there anymore-quit-but she is a 9-negra stunner with a sick body-19-monique.

First time we met outside she said just give me what you want.

For that to happen she has to like you.

I gave her 200 day after and bought her Pizza at her fave little spot in Copa..35 reais..come on man.

She stayed 24 hours.

Next time 150.

Jumilla from VM I had over for 150.

Per noite.

She has to like you for that so my point is, we have to put in some work on them like mini GFs-then they go easier on the price. Or sometimes just cover their food, drinks, cab.

This is rare if just comin through for a 2 week monger vibe- I realize this. Sayin that its possible for sure.I have known those 2 before mentioned girls 1 year plus now and this time im here just under 2 months.Im Just don't go to the tourist mouse traps like Barbarellas, MC etc. Go to the communidade. Zona Norte. VM. Local shit. Dimes for less.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1925435]I would have to be honest and say probably very hard without portugese-I mean even with portugese they still got to be into you.

Doesn't mean it can't happen if you are a charmer and they like your vibe!.

I met one Friday and that's been a go.

Sexo first night. After night out in Lapa. That's not a normality-sometimes good shit happens.

Met 2 others-both had boyfriends and neither of them are at sexo stage yet-but communicating.

Thats the reality of speaking to 3. There re tons of others I could have spoken to but they were not hot to me. Those 3 were stunners in my book.[/QUOTE]Yea I did. Manage to pick a chick at a metro station. Was asking her for directions and ome. Thing lead to another and we met for drinks in the evening! She stayed over. We made out a bit but she wasn't up for all the way.

Had met up with another chick I had lined from seekingarrangement. O man she was all over it. We had to a bar a few drinks and she asks me to kiss her. Come back to the hotel and we bang it out 4 times that night. Loves DFK. Gives a very toothy BJ. Dropped her of in the morning. Wants to meet again! Looking forward to that!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1925432]I have talked to a few girls on whatsapp and the general consensus was "The Olympics was not the financial windfall that they had thought it would be". Many were especially complaining that the beach was full of families and non mongers so they weren't pulling many dates.

I also had the same exact issue with terma girls when I was in Rio this year. They wanted the same price and sometimes more, than what I would have paid for an hour in the terma. When I tried to explain that "the reason why I asked for your number was so I could pay less money that I was in 4 x4" they just looked at me like I had 3 heads.[/QUOTE]That seems odd. Never had a problem getting a 4 X4 girl to meet up later for a lower price than the termas. Many times I had to fund the taxi rides because of the distance between their home and Zona Sul. You do have to realize it can be a bit of a hassle for some of them. They're not always big on the all-nighter unless there's a vibe and it's a weekend. Otherwise, they still might have to go back to work the next day.

As far as 4 X4 quieting down by 11 pm, it is definitely geared toward the downtown business crowd. Thus, closed on weekends and prime-time is the hours just after work. Now that's really a Happy Hour to unwind with your male co-workers!

The winding down as you get closer to 11 pm really creates a window of opportunity. You start chatting it up with a girl who knows she likely won't session anymore and see if she's got some energy for a meeting that night. I have had some really good times with termas girls who I met up with right after closing time. We have even arranged a Festa after closing time with four girls who were hanging out in the corner at the end of the night. They were obviously all friends, attractive birds of a feather and one spoke good English. We spoke to her and she organized the whole thing with the rest of the girls. There are logistical reasons why striking that night works better. Some of the girls are flaky and can be impossible to get them to come over the next day or later. Of course, I've heard girls complain that guys call / text, then they taxi over to Copa and the guy's a no show.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1925432]I have talked to a few girls on whatsapp and the general consensus was "The Olympics was not the financial windfall that they had thought it would be". Many were especially complaining that the beach was full of families and non mongers so they weren't pulling many dates.

I also had the same exact issue with terma girls when I was in Rio this year. They wanted the same price and sometimes more, than what I would have paid for an hour in the terma. When I tried to explain that "the reason why I asked for your number was so I could pay less money that I was in 4 x4" they just looked at me like I had 3 heads.[/QUOTE]Well that's not a surprise. If your smart with your money, The Olympics would be the worst time to visit Brazil. Everything will be crazy expensive and overprice. Unless you booked really early, I seen flights to Brazil for $2500-$6000 just for economy tickets and lets not even talk about renting a apartment or staying at a hotel. If these girls are looking for mongers, I don't expect a huge mongering crowd until maybe next year, Or when they open up a night club like Help. We will see how this plays out. I'm planning on going to Brazil later this year. I'm hoping and praying the Real drops to 5 to 1. And Flights are cheap again. I don't understand how I can get a cheap flights to Columbia for $300-$400 and Flights to Brazil are almost $1,000 and Columbia and Brazil is not to far from each other and on the same continent.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516]. I don't understand how I can get a cheap flights to Columbia for $300-$400 and Flights to Brazil are almost $1,000 and Columbia and Brazil is not to far from each other and on the same continent.[/QUOTE]It's cheaper to fly from Port of Spain to Rio, via Miami, than flying direct from Miami. Something is up with American Airlines, but I'm too busy with island life to read the SEC filings or annual report.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516]Well that's not a surprise. If your smart with your money, The Olympics would be the worst time to visit Brazil. Everything will be crazy expensive and overprice. Unless you booked really early, I seen flights to Brazil for $2500-$6000 just for economy tickets and lets not even talk about renting a apartment or staying at a hotel. If these girls are looking for mongers, I don't expect a huge mongering crowd until maybe next year, Or when they open up a night club like Help. We will see how this plays out. I'm planning on going to Brazil later this year. I'm hoping and praying the Real drops to 5 to 1. And Flights are cheap again. I don't understand how I can get a cheap flights to Columbia for $300-$400 and Flights to Brazil are almost $1,000 and Columbia and Brazil is not to far from each other and on the same continent.[/QUOTE]Rio is about twice as far from the midwest USA As Colombia. From South Florida, Rio is actually about three times the distance that Colombia is. This is one of the reason my recent trips have leaned more to Colombia. As great as Brazil is, I dread the thought of those all-night flights.

I think the Real will weaken in the next year, but 5 to 1 is probably asking too much.

[QUOTE=Combo;1925600]Rio is about twice as far from the midwest USA As Colombia. From South Florida, Rio is actually about three times the distance that Colombia is. This is one of the reason my recent trips have leaned more to Colombia. As great as Brazil is, I dread the thought of those all-night flights.

I think the Real will weaken in the next year, but 5 to 1 is probably asking too much.[/QUOTE]I don't know Uruguay is almost at the bottom of south America and way more far from Rio and I can get flights for $600-$750. I think it has to do with the Airlines Paying a Huge Brazilian Tax. So I guess they pass that tax onto us and also currency I guess. When the Real was 4 to 1, I remember Rio Flights were $500-$600.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1925449]Yea I did. Manage to pick a chick at a metro station. Was asking her for directions and ome. Thing lead to another and we met for drinks in the evening! She stayed over. We made out a bit but she wasn't up for all the way.

Had met up with another chick I had lined from seekingarrangement. O man she was all over it. We had to a bar a few drinks and she asks me to kiss her. Come back to the hotel and we bang it out 4 times that night. Loves DFK. Gives a very toothy BJ. Dropped her of in the morning. Wants to meet again! Looking forward to that![/QUOTE]Sounds great apart from the toothy BJ-oouch!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;1925485]That seems odd. Never had a problem getting a 4 X4 girl to meet up later for a lower price than the termas. Many times I had to fund the taxi rides because of the distance between their home and Zona Sul. You do have to realize it can be a bit of a hassle for some of them. They're not always big on the all-nighter unless there's a vibe and it's a weekend. Otherwise, they still might have to go back to work the next day.

As far as 4 X4 quieting down by 11 pm, it is definitely geared toward the downtown business crowd. Thus, closed on weekends and prime-time is the hours just after work. Now that's really a Happy Hour to unwind with your male co-workers!

The winding down as you get closer to 11 pm really creates a window of opportunity. You start chatting it up with a girl who knows she likely won't session anymore and see if she's got some energy for a meeting that night. I have had some really good times with termas girls who I met up with right after closing time. We have even arranged a Festa after closing time with four girls who were hanging out in the corner at the end of the night. They were obviously all friends, attractive birds of a feather and one spoke good English. We spoke to her and she organized the whole thing with the rest of the girls. There are logistical reasons why striking that night works better. Some of the girls are flaky and can be impossible to get them to come over the next day or later. Of course, I've heard girls complain that guys call / text, then they taxi over to Copa and the guy's a no show.[/QUOTE]Thats a good strategy and will work for the ones who aint continuing on to Mosaico where many 4 x 4 girls go.

He was referring to their Olympic expectations.

I was in Mosaico twice this year before Olympic and once in the world cup, Wednesday is the best day in Mosaico, more girls, the girl quality is average but better than VM, I am sure there were termas girls in Mosaico in the Olympic because it is not far from Maracana stadium. I met many terma girls in the world cup in Mosaico but since the world cup was over the quality became average because less gringos in VM.

Now the Olympic is over, I'm sure there will be less quality girls. More average women in Mosaico.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1925615]Sounds great apart from the toothy BJ-oouch![/QUOTE]Hshs. It was.

After watching the ceremony lsst night headed to check out 4 x 4. But was closed. Headed to rua maio earlier in the afternoon and they were closed too. Looks like no action till Tuesday after all.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516]I don't understand how I can get a cheap flights to Columbia for $300-$400 and Flights to Brazil are almost $1,000 and Columbia and Brazil is not to far from each other and on the same continent.[/QUOTE]With a flight to Colombia being in that low of a price range, have you looked into having Bogota as your connection? With at least a few weeks planning you should be able to find something fairly reasonable. I agree that direct flights from the States haven't been looking great on the fares, Connecting via Bogota may be another option. Flight 261 would be the way to go. It's how I got here. Flight wasn't bad - 6 hours and they fed us twice. We were on the ground right at 6 am at Galeão. The only other airline coming in that early from South or Central America was Copa from Panama. Depending on which part of the States you're coming from either of those could be something to look at for comparison against direct flights from US carriers. Sure it may add a couple of extra hours to the flight but if cost is the bigger factor, what say Ye?

One thing I've noticed here is that a few mention, distance in comparison while others mention ticket costs but with (what appears to be) so many frequent travelers, no one has mentioned airline mileage rewards to get them here. Are we not collecting miles fellas?

[QUOTE=Traceur;1925745]Hshs. It was.

After watching the ceremony lsst night headed to check out 4 x 4. But was closed. Headed to rua maio earlier in the afternoon and they were closed too. Looks like no action till Tuesday after all.[/QUOTE]No no all shut till tomorrow champ.

Only VM is bumpin like bad skin today and every night.

Funnily enough I found way better girls in VM than Mosaico. Occasionally find a banger there but VM got rough diamonds.

About to bring one to Hotel Ibis today. Ex-VM -19. Body just sick.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925607]I don't know Uruguay is almost at the bottom of south America and way more far from Rio and I can get flights for $600-$750. I think it has to do with the Airlines Paying a Huge Brazilian Tax. So I guess they pass that tax onto us and also currency I guess. When the Real was 4 to 1, I remember Rio Flights were $500-$600.[/QUOTE]What time period were you seeing $500-$600 airfare and the Real 4 to 1? Was it in the last year? With continuing cheap oil, let's hope there is a downward trend for international airfares.

The last time I remember fares that low was the early 2000's. The Real hit 4 to 1 in 2002 I believe. I don't know why, but airfares were very low for several years back then. Now I seem to see on the USA -Brazil flights a lot of Brazilians who live in the USA Traveling back home.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1925847]No no all shut till tomorrow champ.

Only VM is bumpin like bad skin today and every night.

Funnily enough I found way better girls in VM than Mosaico. Occasionally find a banger there but VM got rough diamonds.

About to bring one to Hotel Ibis today. Ex-VM -19. Body just sick.[/QUOTE]I just moved to Copa for a few days. Damn. And its raining! Man guess the city is sad the games are over!

With it being a holiday there are only a few spots open in Copa but they are not with many choices.

Passing by MC right now. As usual the music is low and not so great. There are a few lookers in here though depending on what you like. There are about 23 girls, 12 guys. None of the girls are really making conversation. However there is one guy playing kiss face with a girl in the boate area, while 8 girls stand in the center of the floor swaying side to side and off beat. There are 5 blondes, 6 morenas with nice round assets, a couple of thin but somewhat sexy chicks, one sarada, and the others are "meh". Maybe there are others upstairs.

Not as crazy in here by any means and now the Olympics are over I don't foresee it getting too much better as the weeks go by where patrons are concerned. But again, it's a holiday here. Stopped by for drinks and to look but if this liquor taps me on my left shoulder and have that talk with me there is going to be a good fight upstairs in a cabin.

If you're in the area pass by but know that it's not the usual number to select from.

Hobby on!

Well I just walked past MABS sometime back. Its open. But looks like a very regular bar restaurant. Families, couples just spending some time in there. Am I getting something wrong here? Or because of the holiday they aren't bringing the girls out.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1925989]With it being a holiday there are only a few spots open in Copa but they are not with many choices.

Passing by MC right now. As usual the music is low and not so great. There are a few lookers in here though depending on what you like. There are about 23 girls, 12 guys. None of the girls are really making conversation. However there is one guy playing kiss face with a girl in the boate area, while 8 girls stand in the center of the floor swaying side to side and off beat. There are 5 blondes, 6 morenas with nice round assets, a couple of thin but somewhat sexy chicks, one sarada, and the others are "meh". Maybe there are others upstairs.

Not as crazy in here by any means and now the Olympics are over I don't foresee it getting too much better as the weeks go by where patrons are concerned. But again, it's a holiday here. Stopped by for drinks and to look but if this liquor taps me on my left shoulder and have that talk with me there is going to be a good fight upstairs in a cabin.

If you're in the area pass by but know that it's not the usual number to select from.

Hobby on![/QUOTE]Thanks for the update/reporting. Monday is typically a bad day to hit Termas, especially today with it being the holiday as you noted. I'd say the Olympic crowds are down to about 25% of what they were, judging by what I just saw on the streets walking home. I hope they all GTFO by the end of this week. And therefore Centro too will go back to normal, now that this holiday BS has passed.

Usually prime Termas days are Tues-Thursday, less so on Friday (but Friday = good for those of us who don't have to go home to wifey). Saturday is rough especially during Summer but if you get there after 7pm you'll be OK, any earlier is useless on a Saturday.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1926003]Well I just walked past MABS sometime back. Its open. But looks like a very regular bar restaurant. Families, couples just spending some time in there. Am I getting something wrong here? Or because of the holiday they aren't bringing the girls out.[/QUOTE]Damn! Thanks for the heads up. I'm still at MC if you're in the area. More girls showed up but they are being picked off slowly. It's worth a shot. Sounds like it's better than Mabs. Kalabria was OK on Saturday if you haven't passed by there yet. DV had a crowd but I doubt if there will be much traffic tonight.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;1925851]What time period were you seeing $500-$600 airfare and the Real 4 to 1? Was it in the last year? With continuing cheap oil, let's hope there is a downward trend for international airfares.

The last time I remember fares that low was the early 2000's. The Real hit 4 to 1 in 2002 I believe. I don't know why, but airfares were very low for several years back then. Now I seem to see on the USA -Brazil flights a lot of Brazilians who live in the USA Traveling back home.[/QUOTE]Yes I can agree with steel on this earlier this year in April found tickets on Azul airline for $526.00 from Fort Lauderdale to Rio de Janeiro Santo Dumont airport which is closer to Zonal Sul, I may also note that I flew from the Bahamas connecting in Fort Lauderdale to Rio de Janeiro for $731.00 are / T. Believe it or not at one point in December 2015 flights had drop to $560 are / T from Nassau to Santo Dumont airport just wasn't prepared to make the trip. I am hoping to see those fares again for my vacation in October I am prepared right now LOL.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1926015]Damn! Thanks for the heads up. I'm still at MC if you're in the area. More girls showed up but they are being picked off slowly. It's worth a shot. Sounds like it's better than Mabs. Kalabria was OK on Saturday if you haven't passed by there yet. DV had a crowd but I doubt if there will be much traffic tonight.[/QUOTE]Hey,

I did walk past mctoo. Decided to check it out tomorrow. Found this a other place club 22. Pretty close to Mc. 70 bucks entry 1 drink.

50 reals no drink.

There were like 5-6 girls. No one above 7. One chick spoke English. Rooms available to take the girls 20 minutes 130,30 mins 150.200 for the hour. Spoke to a few girls, had my drink and left. Really not worth a visit.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516] I'm hoping and praying the Real drops to 5 to 1.[/QUOTE]If I had a real for every time you have posted about the exchange rate hitting 5-1, I would have a beachfront apartment in Leblon. Its no secret the economy is in horrible shape but 5-1 ain't happening (I would love to see that however and will buy you a bucket of beer if it does) The exchange rate could drop again into the 2.5-1 range if oil prices rise again.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516] Or when they open up a night club like Help.[/QUOTE]Help is not coming back and I doubt anything similar will open. I loved the place just as much as you but it ain't coming back despite you posting about it many times.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1925516] And Flights are cheap again. I don't understand how I can get a cheap flights to Columbia for $300-$400 and Flights to Brazil are almost $1,000 and Columbia and Brazil is not to far from each other and on the same continent.[/QUOTE]In May I flew from NYC to Bogota, Colombia it was about a 5. 5 hour flight. A week later I went from Bogota, Colombia to Rio and it was a 6 hour flight. They are not as close as one would think and that would help explain why it costs more to fly down to Brazil.

Yes somethings cost a lot more during the Olympics like lodging especially. But my are / t airfare was less than $1000 (but it was booked months in advance) the girls at Delirio were the exact same 200 real, an escort girl I saw in February charged me the exact same 350 real. MC was a bit expensive. My favorite churrascuria in Leme had the exact same price. Sure the Olympics were more expensive for somethings, the traffic sucked, the venues were below average, but nobody parties like the Cariocas do. Cupid and SA chicks were sending so many messages that you just had to delete girls because of no time. I also got to see Phelps swim, was 10 feet away from Usain Bolt, was in Maracana when Brazil won the gold. Moments like that made the $2000 for an apartment seem like a steal to me.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1926091]Hey,

I did walk past mctoo. Decided to check it out tomorrow. Found this a other place club 22. Pretty close to Mc. 70 bucks entry 1 drink.

50 reals no drink.

There were like 5-6 girls. No one above 7. One chick spoke English. Rooms available to take the girls 20 minutes 130,30 mins 150.200 for the hour. Spoke to a few girls, had my drink and left. Really not worth a visit.[/QUOTE]Head out earlier today to check out massage joints near by. Copa massagem was pretty close by so headed there. But just couldn't find the place! Found 162 and then 170 but 169 was out of my understanding. Tried asking around but no luck there either.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1926426]Head out earlier today to check out massage joints near by. Copa massagem was pretty close by so headed there. But just couldn't find the place! Found 162 and then 170 but 169 was out of my understanding. Tried asking around but no luck there either.[/QUOTE]I slid ended up passing by Copa Massagem Monday night after receiving info of a promotion of 30 minutes 1 girl for 100 reais, 30 minutes 2 girls 160 reais. It's at the corner of Siqueira Campos and Rua Tonelero. If you're walking from Av. Nossa Sra and arrive at the corner, there is a restaurant on your left. Walk to the Left on Tonelero passing the restaurant and another open spaced business (I forget what it was as I was looking for 169). There's a door on the left just inside of a small walkway. Ring the bell and the door unlocks, walk upstairs. It's the only occupant behind this door. And you're in there. The address is actually above the door maybe 20 or steps past the restaurant. There were only two girls there so I passed. The guy at the reception desk says they would have 9 girls today as it's their usual count.

I decided to just rest today though. No massage parlor, no termas, no drinks. Mentally winding down to get on that plane.

[QUOTE=Traceur;1926091]Hey,

I did walk past mctoo. Decided to check it out tomorrow. Found this a other place club 22. Pretty close to Mc. 70 bucks entry 1 drink.

50 reals no drink.

There were like 5-6 girls. No one above 7. One chick spoke English. Rooms available to take the girls 20 minutes 130,30 mins 150.200 for the hour. Spoke to a few girls, had my drink and left. Really not worth a visit.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure Club 22 is the place above the bar / restaurant Cevada (which means Barley, I believe. As in the beer ingredient) on the corner of Siqueira Campos and the side of the square (that starts on Nossa Senhora) closer to the beach. There's a small entry door with a fligth of stairs from the street up to the place above the Cevada bar. It's kind of and has always been a dump. If you walk from the corner of Nossa Senhora & Siq Campos along Siq Campos on the side of the square, at the corner of the square with the next small street, it's right across the street above Cevada.

Today I prepare to say goodbye (for now). Stopped by MC to call it a day. The local time is now 17:10 and the only two guys in the boate are me and the bartender with 18 girls to choose from. Strangest feeling ever in here. LOL. And the one chick I came to see isn't even in here. This is BS.. I'm here for the next 2 hours if anyone is in the area.

Hobby on!

I missed my flight so I'm here at least one more night if anyone is in the Copa area. Heading back to MC. It was back to life as I left to go to the Aeroporto.

Yesterday hit T31 and MV30 with the king Cartman.

Some definite talent in both spots-dark side riders.

Today me and wingman be the Viking went on a recon job of the dark side.

Started at T31-great talent-super negras up in there. Firm asses, natural tits. Crazy.

Moved on to MV30-was packed.

Didn't session.

Went to Cancun-good selection still. Couple mulattas, many white girls and a few morenas. 25 girls.

Moved on to Rua Uruguyana. 210 was poppin. About 14 girls-dudes-dj bangin james brown-2 pensioners gettin down. Was hilarious.First time there....Has layout of Club 22 in Copa but bigger and good vibe.not shit one like 22....quite busy.

I sessioned with Tat-negra--tall 180 cm. Firm body. Sick butt. Beautiful chocolate titties that defy gravity. Stand still. Natural. And she was a great fuck. BBBJ then fucked her missionary, sideways, backshot, on top and many others. She is a great fuck-passionate. Tongue kisser. 168 for an hour. Rooms so so. Thought I broke the bed. I think it was only room with shower cause at the end some fat naked chick came in to use the shower! Loool.

I think it was no 210. It has green light out front and is in middle of uruguyana. You walk up stair case to reception. One drink entry fee.Not the one near presidente vargas. Further down.

Another hot negra was there dancin great with a sick tight body.

We also hit the 4 boates in the side street to left off uruguyana.

No entry fee-walk ups into boates with RnB loud and chubby girls. None doable.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1926882]I missed my flight so I'm here at least one more night if anyone is in the Copa area. Heading back to MC. It was back to life as I left to go to the Aeroporto.[/QUOTE]If you happen to be there tomorrow as well please catch up with me.

Will be in Rio tomorrow.

First time.

So a wingman and somebody to drink a beer together makes full sense to me.

Any recommendations where to go for a newbie, who speaks no Portuguese or Spanish?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Migan66;1927143]If you happen to be there tomorrow as well please catch up with me.

Will be in Rio tomorrow.

First time.

So a wingman and somebody to drink a beer together makes full sense to me.

Any recommendations where to go for a newbie, who speaks no Portuguese or Spanish?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm leaving tonight but there are a few members on the ground still who may you may be able to link with. In terms of places to go, if you're planning on going to any of the termas there will surely be girls in there who speak English. The beach hasn't been crowded but there are still people there who speak English. Not sure where you will stay or for how long your visit will be but if you're in Copacabana at night there will be girls at Mabs, Dolce Vita, Kalabria who speak a little English. There's Lapa which is sure to be lively as you head into the weekend. Once you leave the "tourist" areas your chances of meeting someone who speaks or understands a little English.

I looked thru some of my files to see if had anything that could possibly help you. I did find a Pimsleur reading document. It won't give you all that you will need but there should be enough in there to give you an idea of some of the basics that will come in handy. I've attached it below.

Was walking thru Centro near 13 de Maio and received several flyers. As I didn't have time to check these spots, I kept it moving. I did recognize Alice's flyer though. Maybe some of you will time to stop by and give these places a looking over. When looking at them a note worth mentioning is that the "Sala 827" is for the flyer "Terapias Garotas Hot".

Hobby on!

[QUOTE=Migan66;1927143]If you happen to be there tomorrow as well please catch up with me.

Will be in Rio tomorrow.

First time.

So a wingman and somebody to drink a beer together makes full sense to me.

Any recommendations where to go for a newbie, who speaks no Portuguese or Spanish?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey bud,

A fellow first timer in Rio who does nt speak Portuguese either. I did learn a few basic words that helped me. Not knowing the language does create some barriers. A lot of chicks at various bars here did speak decent English. Have your Google translator handy.

You can really these places by your self. Always good to have company but ain't that bad. Mabs, Mc, barbarella, Delirio, Socca American or something. That's where I went. Had good time everywhere. Just got ripped at the American thing. But was my bad judgment anyway.

I am leaving tomorrow afternoon for SP. I was at Mc earlier today. Went in around 530. Good long shower after the day at the beach. Not too many guys then maybe 3-4. The talent was commendable. Loads of 8+. A slim tall carioca atonelle or something grabbed as soon I stepped in to the boate. Spoke good English. Was chatty enough to have a good conversation. Felt My way around. Wasn't willing to share her number till I took her upstairs. Spoke for a while then asked her to leave.

Was immediately approached by this tall chick. Lovely body. Nice firm ass. Absolutely loved DFK. Left after a while. Wasn't going to pay Mc charges. Would check my luck in SP tomorrow.

Going to miss Rio for sure!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1926900]Yesterday hit T31 and MV30 with the king Cartman.

Some definite talent in both spots-dark side riders.

Today me and wingman be the Viking went on a recon job of the dark side.

Started at T31-great talent-super negras up in there. Firm asses, natural tits. Crazy.

Moved on to MV30-was packed.

Didn't session.

Went to Cancun-good selection still. Couple mulattas, many white girls and a few morenas. 25 girls.

Moved on to Rua Uruguyana. 210 was poppin. About 14 girls-dudes-dj bangin james brown-2 pensioners gettin down. Was hilarious.First time there....Has layout of Club 22 in Copa but bigger and good vibe.not shit one like 22....quite busy.

I sessioned with Tat-negra--tall 180 cm. Firm body. Sick butt. Beautiful chocolate titties that defy gravity. Stand still. Natural. And she was a great fuck. BBBJ then fucked her missionary, sideways, backshot, on top and many others. She is a great fuck-passionate. Tongue kisser. 168 for an hour. Rooms so so. Thought I broke the bed. I think it was only room with shower cause at the end some fat naked chick came in to use the shower! Loool.

I think it was no 210. It has green light out front and is in middle of uruguyana. You walk up stair case to reception. One drink entry fee.Not the one near presidente vargas. Further down.

Another hot negra was there dancin great with a sick tight body.

We also hit the 4 boates in the side street to left off uruguyana.

No entry fee-walk ups into boates with RnB loud and chubby girls. None doable.[/QUOTE]Great reporting as always. Happy to confirm your reports on T31, it's well worth a look on a dark-side crawl, especially as it's literally around the corner from MV30 and better value. Hadn't been there for ages.

Funny true story: I think the night you went to 210 I was banging a girl who told me she had just started working at 210, and I hadn't heard much about it (I think I went there 1 time with Patmar). After basically getting it in every hole, she was getting dressed and putting on make up (this was around midnight) and heading out to "work it" either there or at one of the other clubs. Got to love the hustle on these girls. She spent 3 hours with me drinking and lighting up, got paid, and was off to the next one!

Keep up the good info!

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1926900]Yesterday hit T31 and MV30 with the king Cartman.

Some definite talent in both spots-dark side riders.

Today me and wingman be the Viking went on a recon job of the dark side.

Started at T31-great talent-super negras up in there. Firm asses, natural tits. Crazy.

Moved on to MV30-was packed.

Didn't session.

Went to Cancun-good selection still. Couple mulattas, many white girls and a few morenas. 25 girls.

Moved on to Rua Uruguyana. 210 was poppin. About 14 girls-dudes-dj bangin james brown-2 pensioners gettin down. Was hilarious.First time there....Has layout of Club 22 in Copa but bigger and good vibe.not shit one like 22....quite busy.

I sessioned with Tat-negra--tall 180 cm. Firm body. Sick butt. Beautiful chocolate titties that defy gravity. Stand still. Natural. And she was a great fuck. BBBJ then fucked her missionary, sideways, backshot, on top and many others. She is a great fuck-passionate. Tongue kisser. 168 for an hour. Rooms so so. Thought I broke the bed. I think it was only room with shower cause at the end some fat naked chick came in to use the shower! Loool.

I think it was no 210. It has green light out front and is in middle of uruguyana. You walk up stair case to reception. One drink entry fee.Not the one near presidente vargas. Further down.

Another hot negra was there dancin great with a sick tight body.

We also hit the 4 boates in the side street to left off uruguyana.

No entry fee-walk ups into boates with RnB loud and chubby girls. None doable.[/QUOTE]Went out last night, Thursday, hit U24, T31, MV30, U210, other like these and them VM.

T31 was 10 reais to get in, includes 1 drink.

Very dark lighting inside.

Some OK girls, however, nothing that grabbed my attention.

Didn't see the rockin' negras like you reported, though I was hoping to see some.

Funny, I noticed several garotas with pretty faces but with bellies, sitting about eating potato chips, LOL.

The place was Ok, with potential I guess, but I left for more recon.

MV30 was next, 30 reais to get in, lady said included 3 drinks.

I saw maybe 5 garotas and 30 guys sitting around, some in robes.

I had a beer and split.

No time for a sausage fest.

Got a bite to eat and hit U210, which by the way is right next to Ave Pres. Vargas.

This place I've been to a lot.

Hit and miss.

I've found some gems in here, however, not on this night unfortunately.

Hung out for about 20 minutes to see if any more girls might appear, then split.

I went to the boates across the street, nothing good.

Then the 2 boates around the corner, nada.

It must have been just a bad night, bad luck, which happens when on the hunt.

Luckily though, earlier, I had hit U24, the dive where you walk the stairs and I hit the jackpot.

I met a beautiful, mulata, and very cool and though the rooms suck, we had a very good time and session together.

Got her contact info for a hook up later, possibly this evening.

So I wasn't feeling the sexual frustration while striking out at this other places afterwards.

Ok though, I'll get back to my recon mission.

After my bad luck, except U24, in Centro, I grabbed a cab to VM.

Made the walk there, saw a few sexy ladies, a couple garotas I had talked to before and was getting ready to pull the trigger on one, when a really sweet mulata I had sessioned with a couple times before ran up to me with a big hug and a kiss and that was all she wrote. I love sweet! LOL.

We had a Coca Cola together, and she asked to come back to my place, and I was in the mood for some TLC, so off we went.

Stopped at Bob's Burgers haha.

Then to my place.

She's one of those girls, shy believe it or not, working at VM, but sexy and so sweet.

She just left my place now, I gave her a used cell phone I had, a Blu, but in great condition.

She was thrilled, since she had no phone, and I left 200 reais by her purse, she said it was too much!

She really did!

I just said that it was ok, that because she's got a good heart that she deserves it.

Compared to the Copa garotas, she's a true gem!

Anyway, the U24 hottie just texted me, so off we go again!

Have fun guys!

- Balboa -.

Hey Traceur,

Thanks for the first little help to a newbie. You know how important it is to have a good start.

I do stay at the JW Marriott at Copa and unfortunately will only be here one night.

Was in SP the last 6 days and wanted to do a stop over her in Rio to see the city and the Garotas.

Now I head out for a Favela tour and tonight I want to hit a nice Garota to have good memories to Rio.

What would you recommend with my situation (little time, no Portuguese or Spanish).

Thank you all for recommendations.

SP. Straight to Hilton, called from online. 140. Fake photo and fake girl. Just alright. So tired, had to get one thing going, so finished quick, 20 minutes and sent her out.

Tomorrow Rio. Hope the Olympic crowd has left. Staying next door to MC. Time tested for me. Hopefully won't disappoint.

Any one in MC today? How was the quality.

I want to try solarium. I like slim tall more whiter / loiras and big jugs. Is the demographics loiras?

Will be back to SP next week. But predominantly work. What are good areas after work. Around Hilton.

ABG. I would like to your help and your service. But the problem is, I am not able to message you. PM.

I know these places are in centro of Rio, but where and How would one Google the address?

Cancun is said to have lots of choices?

I tried googling where it's at but to no avail.

Can someone please help.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1926900]Yesterday hit T31 and MV30 with the king Cartman.

Some definite talent in both spots-dark side riders.

Today me and wingman be the Viking went on a recon job of the dark side.

Started at T31-great talent-super negras up in there. Firm asses, natural tits. Crazy.

Moved on to MV30-was packed.

Didn't session.

Went to Cancun-good selection still. Couple mulattas, many white girls and a few morenas. 25 girls..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;1927570]Went out last night, Thursday, hit U24, T31, MV30, U210, other like these and them VM.

T31 was 10 reais to get in, includes 1 drink.

Very dark lighting inside.

Some OK girls, however, nothing that grabbed my attention.

Didn't see the rockin' negras like you reported, though I was hoping to see some.

Funny, I noticed several garotas with pretty faces but with bellies, sitting about eating potato chips, LOL.

The place was Ok, with potential I guess, but I left for more recon.

MV30 was next, 30 reais to get in, lady said included 3 drinks.

I saw maybe 5 garotas and 30 guys sitting around, some in robes.

I had a beer and split.

No time for a sausage fest.

Got a bite to eat and hit U210, which by the way is right next to Ave Pres. Vargas.

This place I've been to a lot.

Hit and miss.

I've found some gems in here, however, not on this night unfortunately.

Hung out for about 20 minutes to see if any more girls might appear, then split.

I went to the boates across the street, nothing good.

Then the 2 boates around the corner, nada.

It must have been just a bad night, bad luck, which happens when on the hunt.

Luckily though, earlier, I had hit U24, the dive where you walk the stairs and I hit the jackpot.

I met a beautiful, mulata, and very cool and though the rooms suck, we had a very good time and session together.

Got her contact info for a hook up later, possibly this evening.

So I wasn't feeling the sexual frustration while striking out at this other places afterwards.

Ok though, I'll get back to my recon mission.

After my bad luck, except U24, in Centro, I grabbed a cab to VM.

Made the walk there, saw a few sexy ladies, a couple garotas I had talked to before and was getting ready to pull the trigger on one, when a really sweet mulata I had sessioned with a couple times before ran up to me with a big hug and a kiss and that was all she wrote. I love sweet! LOL.

We had a Coca Cola together, and she asked to come back to my place, and I was in the mood for some TLC, so off we went.

Stopped at Bob's Burgers haha.

Then to my place.

She's one of those girls, shy believe it or not, working at VM, but sexy and so sweet.

She just left my place now, I gave her a used cell phone I had, a Blu, but in great condition.

She was thrilled, since she had no phone, and I left 200 reais by her purse, she said it was too much!

She really did!

I just said that it was ok, that because she's got a good heart that she deserves it.

Compared to the Copa garotas, she's a true gem!

Anyway, the U24 hottie just texted me, so off we go again!

Have fun guys!

- Balboa -.[/QUOTE]The one I sessioned in on Uruguyana was not 210 as reported (the one near Vargas) -it was the one in the middle. U24.

T31 def has but its a crap shoot (unless you already got their numbers and can check they workin that night which always helps)as girls show up when they want to-same as MV30. This is part of the appeal for the girls. They usually work at 2/3 diff spots and come and go at will.

Thats why quality, price and location has no correlation in Brazil when it comes to gdps.

Sounds like a great VM ending.

I have 3 from there who roll like that.

I'm done with VM though-time to give it a long rest.Last 3 visits were not good memories.I got FB off the one i liked and i have whatsapps of the 2 I see so VM can fall back.Can be a depressing place if the sessions arent good.

Too much non pro ass in Rio and in BR. Every Blocco from the one in Centro on a Monday and on and on is rammed. Madness.Currently in Fortaleza with a super hot negra-21-off Cupid.4th time.Cartman knows the truth!.lol

[QUOTE=MRusa007;1927760]SP. Straight to Hilton, called from online. 140. Fake photo and fake girl. Just alright. So tired, had to get one thing going, so finished quick, 20 minutes and sent her out.

Tomorrow Rio. Hope the Olympic crowd has left. Staying next door to MC. Time tested for me. Hopefully won't disappoint.

Any one in MC today? How was the quality.

I want to try solarium. I like slim tall more whiter / loiras and big jugs. Is the demographics loiras?

Will be back to SP next week. But predominantly work. What are good areas after work. Around Hilton.

ABG. I would like to your help and your service. But the problem is, I am not able to message you. PM.[/QUOTE]Hey,

MC had some good chicks. Was there on Thursday evening. Met up with a Venezuela chick. Tall fit tight body. Lots of DFK right on the boate. I went in around 530 there 2-3 guys and 15 girls maybe. I was pretty happy with the talent in there. The Olympic crowd has cleared out from Copa so you can spend good time with the chicks at the bar.

[QUOTE=Migan66;1927577]Hey Traceur,

Thanks for the first little help to a newbie. You know how important it is to have a good start.

I do stay at the JW Marriott at Copa and unfortunately will only be here one night.

Was in SP the last 6 days and wanted to do a stop over her in Rio to see the city and the Garotas.

Now I head out for a Favela tour and tonight I want to hit a nice Garota to have good memories to Rio.

What would you recommend with my situation (little time, no Portuguese or Spanish).

Thank you all for recommendations.[/QUOTE]No problem buddy. Here to share.

Well it was my first time in Rio too. Was really happy checking out Mc. Good talent. A few chicks did speak English. Good enough to have a conversation. Didn't session though.

Another place you should try is Mabs. Chicks of all shapes and sizes and ages. What ever floats your boat. Have a bite, a drink and they will approach you. Talk to them flirt a bit. Its all good. You can easily spend a few hours there with a couple of beers. Some one had posted about a few desperate chicks at Mabs. Boy they weren't kidding. Two chicks I ran into on the street the earlier night met me at Mabs. Last night she quoted 500 for each chick. Which was changed to 400. And then 300. By 230 am they were at 150 each LOL! They were truly desperate trying everything for to take them. They weren't much to look at and past their prime any way.

Another place close by is Barbarellas. 70 or 80 entry and there is a bar fine don't remember how much. Had decent chicks here about 10 days back.

A few massage parlors around Copa charging between 140-200 250 for 30 minutes. You can just run a search on Google for that.

All the best. Do post.

Am in SP now. Got any leads?

Saturday went to MC around 4 pm. There was one 1 before me and at least 20-25 girls. My favorite grabbed me. Had a 1 hour very good session. She was masturbating herself through out. Does this happen. ? Do girls really enjoy themselves and "cum" too. She turned red when she came. Julia. For me she is a, 8+, very reserved. Speaks somewhat English. You can have a conversation. Does BJ, lip kiss, and multiple position. Good.

Then took a second one, Rhisa. No good. Natural, but once clothes were removed, it was not a sight I wanted to see. I actually prefer silicone, as it looks beautiful. Other than that I don't see a lot of purpose with it. Haha.

Other than that, the place had 5-7 customers only through the night, but most of the girls were not of my liking. So I decided to give it a shot to Solarium. It was very bad. Only 7-8 girls. Most of them already working the guys. The manager Mike told me, that the busy days are Mon-Fri and girls generally don't come on Saturday. One of the girl told me that the bar fines 440 for a Saturday no show to the girls. But if girls made lot of money on Mon-Fri, they pay the fine.

I negotiated with the manager that I will sit for some time, drink beers, but not pay $R110 if I don't session with anyone. He was OK. One girl did a strip tease dance. She had the best bodies. Full athletic and fair and dirty blonde. After she finished her strip show, I spoke to her and took her for 40 minutes. Excellent excellent performance. Bhea is her name.

Rest was waste of time. For 1 40 minutes, my total was 631 R $. I did get couple of drinks, water etc. , $R110 entrance. Girls were expensive than MC.

Today Sunday. Have no idea what I am going to do. Nothing is open. Any wisdom. From friends.

[QUOTE=EBeltr5;1927954]I know these places are in centro of Rio, but where and How would one Google the address?

Cancun is said to have lots of choices?

I tried googling where it's at but to no avail.

Can someone please help.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try BubbaBoy's linked old guide, as many of the adresses haven't changed. It's in the Brazil section index, has its own topic I believe.

Frankly typing "Club Cancun, Centro, Rio" should pretty much show the address on Google maps. Typing "MV30, Centro, Rio de Janeiro" on Google seems to call it right up.

So either my Google is magic (based on my search history), or your search-fu makes my 75 year old Mom look like Larry Page.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1927570]Went out last night, Thursday, hit U24, T31, MV30, U210, other like these and them VM.

T31 was 10 reais to get in, includes 1 drink.

Very dark lighting inside.

Some OK girls, however, nothing that grabbed my attention.

Didn't see the rockin' negras like you reported, though I was hoping to see some.

Funny, I noticed several garotas with pretty faces but with bellies, sitting about eating potato chips, LOL.

The place was Ok, with potential I guess, but I left for more recon.

MV30 was next, 30 reais to get in, lady said included 3 drinks...[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting on mv30 and t31, not interested in ladies with bellies unless it is free.

Only 5 girls in MV30 not good, I don't go to the termas to compete or to be around guys not interesting I thought there were more girls especially in the Olympics guys will get to fuck each other in this terma if as you say is true.

[QUOTE=Francis7854;1929041]Thanks for reporting on mv30 and t31, not interested in ladies with bellies unless it is free.

Only 5 girls in MV30 not good, I don't go to the termas to compete or to be around guys not interesting I thought there were more girls especially in the Olympics guys will get to fuck each other in this terma if as you say is true.[/QUOTE]Sorry, were you actually adding useful new information with this post?

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1929109]Sorry, were you actually adding useful new information with this post?[/QUOTE]There is no information LOL just found the report useful.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;1928375]Rest was waste of time. For 1 40 minutes, my total was 631 R $. I did get couple of drinks, water etc. , $R110 entrance. Girls were expensive than MC.[/QUOTE]It appears I will never step foot in another termas. I remember the days of getting 2 chicks and making video in 4 X4 for $75. Now you are telling me that you had to come off damn near $200 for only 40 min with 1 chick?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1929353]It appears I will never step foot in another termas. I remember the days of getting 2 chicks and making video in 4 X4 for $75. Now you are telling me that you had to come off damn near $200 for only 40 min with 1 chick?[/QUOTE]I'm going to Rio on Thursday for my first time. I'm enjoying the simple way of fucking girls here in So Paulo for a decent price. I might have to jerk off every other day in Rio or bring my own garota. I'll see how that goes. I can at least cross Rio off my bucket list.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1929509]I'm going to Rio on Thursday for my first time. I'm enjoying the simple way of fucking girls here in So Paulo for a decent price. I might have to jerk off every other day in Rio or bring my own garota. I'll see how that goes. I can at least cross Rio off my bucket list.[/QUOTE]My advice to you would be to session as many chicks as you can on your first trip to Rio. Rio garotas are much more ravenous in bed than their SP sisters. It will be an experience that you will not get anywhere else and will remember for a long time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1929543]My advice to you would be to session as many chicks as you can on your first trip to Rio. Rio garotas are much more ravenous in bed than their SP sisters. It will be an experience that you will not get anywhere else and will remember for a long time.[/QUOTE]I've heard this before and it doesn't make sense to me (at least based on my experience). My reasoning is that a high % of the garotas one meets in Rio are from elsewhere in Brasil, and quite frequently from Sao Paulo. Some of my absolute wildest fucks in Rio were actually Paulistas. I guess it could be that these girls are wilder when they are away from their home and in a spectacularly beautiful beach City like Rio. However, I've had some very wild experiences in SP itself (I assume from Paulistas).

Now if you said that Brasilenas in general are more ravenous than girls from any other country, I would completely agree with you. Every guy in this hobby should go to Brasil at least once in their lifetime.

[QUOTE=Combo;1929563]I've heard this before and it doesn't make sense to me (at least based on my experience). My reasoning is that a high % of the garotas one meets in Rio are from elsewhere in Brasil, and quite frequently from Sao Paulo. Some of my absolute wildest fucks in Rio were actually Paulistas. I guess it could be that these girls are wilder when they are away from their home and in a spectacularly beautiful beach City like Rio. However, I've had some very wild experiences in SP itself (I assume from Paulistas).

Now if you said that Brasilenas in general are more ravenous than girls from any other country, I would completely agree with you. Every guy in this hobby should go to Brasil at least once in their lifetime.[/QUOTE]Indeed, on the face of it the difference doesn't seem to make any sense, but what Turgid reports was my finding as well. I had some good sessions in Sao Paulo, but overall the action for me has been much better in Rio. Interestingly, unlike you, I never sessioned with anybody in Rio who was from Sao Paulo. At least I don't recall that I did. In Rio I've had girls from all over Brazil, but Paulistas haven't been in the mix. Now in Sao Paulo, there were girls from all over too, but most of the ones I banged were from southern Brazil. A part of that is just the result of a particular look that I like. Well, I still owe the community a full Sao Paulo report, and I will get to it. Just been too damn busy to finish it. But I will!

[QUOTE=Combo;1929563]I've heard this before and it doesn't make sense to me (at least based on my experience). My reasoning is that a high % of the garotas one meets in Rio are from elsewhere in Brasil, and quite frequently from Sao Paulo. Some of my absolute wildest fucks in Rio were actually Paulistas. I guess it could be that these girls are wilder when they are away from their home and in a spectacularly beautiful beach City like Rio. However, I've had some very wild experiences in SP itself (I assume from Paulistas).

Now if you said that Brasilenas in general are more ravenous than girls from any other country, I would completely agree with you. Every guy in this hobby should go to Brasil at least once in their lifetime.[/QUOTE]My best fuck was a girl from the south of Brazil, met many girls from the south, from Minas Gerais and Paulistas in Rio they were way better than Cariocas, I also met some good Cariocas, it just depends on the girl.

I plan to land in Rio, I would like to to know where I can get some Japanese Brazilians.

[QUOTE=Combo;1929563]I've heard this before and it doesn't make sense to me (at least based on my experience). My reasoning is that a high % of the garotas one meets in Rio are from elsewhere in Brasil, and quite frequently from Sao Paulo. Some of my absolute wildest fucks in Rio were actually Paulistas. I guess it could be that these girls are wilder when they are away from their home and in a spectacularly beautiful beach City like Rio. However, I've had some very wild experiences in SP itself (I assume from Paulistas).

Now if you said that Brasilenas in general are more ravenous than girls from any other country, I would completely agree with you. Every guy in this hobby should go to Brasil at least once in their lifetime.[/QUOTE]My comment was based on several trips to Rio ending in 2007 and one trip to Sao Paulo this year. In Rio I remember garotas doing all sorts of nasty things to me like gyrating on my face and discharging and otherwise manhandling me (woman handling) for example like groping and slapping me hard and asking me to do them harder. This constantly happened in Rio on every trip; also the women also manhandled themselves as well with some help from me of course. Also, I always got email addresses and phone numbers from the girls in the termas. I found that the Paulista providers were much more subdued. They provided very good service probably better than any other country on the planet but still not as good as is provided in Rio. Also I found Paulistas in general much less engaging than Cariocas, they were closer in behavior and mannerisms to Europeans and North Americans and generally less friendly than Cariocas. Perhaps when Brazilians from outside Sao Paulo come to that city the saying "When in Rome. " applies. The weather is colder in Sao Paulo and so are the Paulistas. I am still waiting for prices to go down in Rio before returning, I will be heading back to SP before I do Rio again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1929881]My comment was based on several trips to Rio ending in 2007 and one trip to Sao Paulo this year. In Rio I remember garotas doing all sorts of nasty things to me like gyrating on my face and discharging and otherwise manhandling me (woman handling) for example like groping and slapping me hard and asking me to do them harder. This constantly happened in Rio on every trip; also the women also manhandled themselves as well with some help from me of course.[/QUOTE]I have done a lot of non-pro threesomes and one theme that is recurrent is the slapping. At first, I thought maybe it was from the girls watching too much porn (which they like BTW) or from how Brazilian men treated them, but, after repeated occurrences, I got the idea that they just enjoyed it. With Brazilians, you rarely have to ask them to take it up a notch. Also, I have become friends with enough Pros to confirm if you know what you are doing, they are happy to have an orgasm and if you are good, they demand it.

One very important piece of advice is to never let anyone know when you are leaving or how long you are staying. That is one of the first things you will be asked because they want to know your dollar or boyfriend potential. Again, do not tell anyone. The girls seek out this information like their lives depend on it. Act like you do not have a care in the world and you could be there for months.

I have had good sessions with girls from SP, and great sessions with girls from Rio, but the most Amazing sessions go to the girls from Bahia!! Every single girl I have been with from Bahia have been beasts in the bedroom!! To the point where I wouldn't even go with one unless I knew I was well rested and good give my best performance! LOL!! They are number 1 in my book!

[QUOTE=Turgid;1929881]My comment was based on several trips to Rio ending in 2007 and one trip to Sao Paulo this year. In Rio I remember garotas doing all sorts of nasty things to me like gyrating on my face and discharging and otherwise manhandling me (woman handling) for example like groping and slapping me hard and asking me to do them harder. This constantly happened in Rio on every trip; also the women also manhandled themselves as well with some help from me of course. Also, I always got email addresses and phone numbers from the girls in the termas. I found that the Paulista providers were much more subdued. They provided very good service probably better than any other country on the planet but still not as good as is provided in Rio. Also I found Paulistas in general much less engaging than Cariocas, they were closer in behavior and mannerisms to Europeans and North Americans and generally less friendly than Cariocas. Perhaps when Brazilians from outside Sao Paulo come to that city the saying "When in Rome. " applies. The weather is colder in Sao Paulo and so are the Paulistas. I am still waiting for prices to go down in Rio before returning, I will be heading back to SP before I do Rio again.[/QUOTE]I've had a few ask me to slap them, but (thankfully) never had one slap me.

I remember a dupla I had in Rio (with 1 Paulista and 1 Carioca). In between sitting on my dick and my face, they were pulling each others' hair, spanking each other, and slapping each other, and of course munching on each other's pussies. Only in Brasil!

[QUOTE=Combo;1930095]I've had a few ask me to slap them, but (thankfully) never had one slap me.

I remember a dupla I had in Rio (with 1 Paulista and 1 Carioca). In between sitting on my dick and my face, they were pulling each others' hair, spanking each other, and slapping each other, and of course munching on each other's pussies. Only in Brasil![/QUOTE]Never had a Paulista-had great performers from Teolifo Otoni, Minas. Belo Horizonte, Minas. Ilheus, Bahia. Natal, Rio Grande Do Norte. Amazonia. All parts of Rio and Rio state. Sergipe, Aracaju. Belem. All north of Rio.

Who know this girl? I saw her in Mab's Copacabana last week, she wanted $350 Real for one hour. I refused because I found her not friendly during our conversation.

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1931832]Who know this girl? I saw her in Mab's Copacabana last week, she wanted $350 Real for one hour. I refused because I found her not friendly during our conversation.[/QUOTE]This might help. If she had been friendly, would you have given her the 350 Reais?

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1931832]Who know this girl? I saw her in Mab's Copacabana last week, she wanted $350 Real for one hour. I refused because I found her not friendly during our conversation.[/QUOTE]
I think her name is Chucky. Why do you search for an expensive GP who you didn't find friendly?

I just wanted to know about her service, maybe I could try if her service is not bad anyway.

Hi guys,

I am on the ground in Rio. Have given this thread a good read. For logistical / personal purposes visiting Centro or VM are out for me and MABS and Barbarella a challenge. I am mainly restricted to Zona Sul (Ipanema, Leblon and half of Copacabana on the Aprador / Ipanema side). I have visited MC and Centaurus before but as others have mentioned they are getting very pricey now. Is anyone aware of any termas / casas I might be missing out on in Zona Sul? Tips on incall escorts in Zona Sul would also be appreciated.

I will post reports on whatever I get up to.

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1932177]I just wanted to know about her service, maybe I could try if her service is not bad anyway.[/QUOTE]Negative! Don't try her. A shit attitude when meeting 99% of the time means a rush job, a scam, no GFE whatsoever. Shell try to hurry you up to come and all that. Fake moans etc. Interview someone who gives a good vibe, wants to hang, gives you a taste of how she kisses etc, spends some time and doesn't seem in a rush with you.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1932284]Negative! Don't try her. A shit attitude when meeting 99% of the time means a rush job, a scam, no GFE whatsoever. Shell try to hurry you up to come and all that. Fake moans etc. Interview someone who gives a good vibe, wants to hang, gives you a taste of how she kisses etc, spends some time and doesn't seem in a rush with you.[/QUOTE]Thanks FuckAfMedDig! I'll avoid her.

I have a good time in Rio. I have tried some girls from Mab's (porn star), Dolce vita Copacabana, Terma MC, Terma 502, Duda's Massagem in centro. The clubs in Lapa are not bad. Also some talents in VM and found this cheap place at Rua Uruguaiana, 210 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. Here are the prices there:

VM pictures.

I arrived at GIG airport in Rio at 4:30 am, following a 5 hour layover in Lima and an overnight layover in Bogota. I ended up going with the first "official" taxi stand I saw after claiming my bags and clearing customs. Ended up costing $120 R.a bit more than I should have paid, but, I didn't feel like figuring out the best deal and the best taxi vendor. I actually ended up with a pretty hot taxi driver. Not hot in the "I'm trying to get a man" way, but hot in a natural beauty with no makeup and a ponytail kinda way. This helped me realize how much a disadvantage I would be at in not knowing Portuguese. That disadvantage would only apply to hoping to get normal girls I might run into in my comings and goings out and about in Rio. The apartment I rented was amazing! I found it on [URL]HomeAway.com[/URL] and the owner actually convinced me to stay an extra two days at no charge. It was expensive by any normal standards. About $330/ night. But about average for Olympic rates. Plus, I was anxious to lock it in about a year ago, which I did. The place was on Rua Paula Freitas about a block from Copacabana Beach Posto 2. It was about 4 blocks' walk to Siquera Campos Metro Station. Simple 1 bedroom apartment with all the comforts of an American home, including an office with a laptop and WiFi for guest use. After I unpacked, I went literally around the corner to the Pao Acucar grocery store to load up the fridge. I had a ticket to a Men's Basketball Game in Barra the Tijuca (Barra), but decided to skip it and get down to business. So, here were my intended categories for this trip: celebrity escorts from online, BrazilCupid girls, Termas, Street girls, and Vila Mimosa. Before I got started, I needed to get a SIM card. After doing some research and having heard on the street that there was a shortage of SIM cards due to demand by Olympics-goers, I went to the Rio Sul Shopping Center – supposedly the only place that had a good supply AND would allow foreigners to get a SIM. Apparently there are some restrictions due to terrorism laws. Thanks Obama. So, I went looking for TIM. Since they were out of SIMs, I ended up –after 2 hours of processing – with a VIVO SIM card. I paid about $38 USD equivalent and got enough data and voice to last my whole trip (10 days). Now, I was ready to take on the Rio!

My initial plan was to hit up one online / agency girl, one termas girl, and either one BrazilCupid girl or freelancer (Mabs / Barbarellas / VM) per day, with a few massagems sprinkled in for good measure. Well that plan went out of the window as soon as I made my first call.

Here are the online agencies I researched and the girls I noted as who I might hit up via WhatsApp:

Hotside:

*Barbara Ferraz - +55 (21) XXXX-82205.

Anali - +55 (21) XXX-12359.

*Barbara Paes - +55 (21) XXXX-12078.

Hellen Azevedo - +55 (21) XXXX-05468 / +55 (21) XXXX-48232.

Barra VIPs Rio:

*Melissa Gauche - +55 (21) XXXX-59732.

*Babalu - +55 (21) XXXX-25960 / +55 (21) XXXX-07071.

Manu Castro - +55 (21) XXX-62174.

Indiana - +55 (21) XXXX-12337.

Alice Olivier - +55 (21) XXXX-42680.

Lilyane Brasil - +55 (21) XXXX-70731 / +55 (21) XXXX-25886.

Thais Gouveia - +55 (21) XXXX-01414.

Amantesecia:

*Darlene Amaro - +55 (21) XXXX-26270.

Rio Encontro:

*Ana Julia- +55 (21) XXXXX-9797 / +55 (32) XXXXX-1253.

Mia Barra- +55 (21) XXXXX-5173 / +55 (21) XXXXX-8562.

Munique- +55 (21) XXXXX-8053.

*Bella- +55 (21) XXXXX-3463.

*Priscila Pantera- +55 (21) XXXX-7771 / +55 (21) XXXXX-3304 / +55 (21) XXXX-4060.

Sabrina Vilela- +55 (21) XXXXX-3093.

Pamela Prado- +55 (21) XXXXX-2997.

Chantily:

*Melissa Pitanga- +55 (11) XXXXX-6747.

*Mayara Shelson- +55 (11) XXXXX-0604.

I reached out to all those with asterisks next to their names via WhatsApp. Of those, I sessioned with:

Day 1: Ana Julia (Miss Bumbum contestant, multiple years; stayed about 3 hours, no rush, $350 R).

Day 2: Melissa Gauche (Simply the best body I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing. Period. $400 R + taxi to / from Barra; a bit of a clock watcher at the end. Said she would do 2 hour for $600 R.probably the best bet.).

Day 3: Barbara Ferraz (solid, muscular woman, a little older than her modeling photos. Mid 40's! Not as attractive in the face as I had hoped, but, a very nice woman with great skills and attitude. $300 R / about 2 hours).

I had an appointment set with Barbara Paes, but I canceled and never rescheduled. Her rate was $250 R / hour I think, incall in Botafogo.

I also received responses from Babalu and Melissa Pitanga, but they never followed through in scheduling an appointment, so, the numbers are right, just maybe not working at the time.

I quickly realized I was spending too much on these high end GDPs, and decided to stop pursuing them for the remainder of the trip. It was time for me to hit up my favorite venue when visiting Rio .4 x 4!

Purchased a Metro fare card and took the metro from Siquera Campos station to Uruguiana station and walked the few blocks to 4 x 4. My dick literally got harder as I got closer to 4 x 4! I arrived at about 3 pm and hoped to session early to avoid paying the entry fee. About two minutes after sitting down in the Boite, I was immediately greeted by a tall, curvy blonde with a beautiful smile and bright eyes. My apologies, but I can't remember her name. Only because I didn't end up with her. After the usual get to know you's, I told her I was going to speak to some other girls before I decided. After talking to two more really amazing girls, I ended up with Isabella. A 26 why / o, nice, curvy brunette, with a fake ass, a few tats, and a beautiful smile. The fake ass looked great, but you could feel that it was implants rather than collagen, which was a bit of a downer. Her BJ skills were amazing! She was very attentive and passionate sexually. I don't recall if she could speak English or not, but, we had no trouble communicating as she spoke some Spanish as do I. I would highly recommend her to anyone. She has a very kind and warm personality. Her WhatsApp is: +55 (21) XXXXX-4253. She also introduced me to a friend of hers who she liked to dupla with, Ana. Ana was a medium-length blonde with a girl-next-door personality. She most have stroked me off in the Boite for about 30 minutes before she understood that I was not going to session with her at 4 x 4, only at my apartment. She was a little disappointed. And, unfortunately, we never ended up getting the dupla together at my place.

The next night would be me second termas session, this time at Monte Carlo, literally around the corner from where I was staying. I think I arrived around 9:30 pm and there were 25 girls and 7 guys. Talk about a great ratio. They all lined up for me, but, I knew as soon as I walked in who I was going to see. Her name was Mia. She was only 20 years old with nice, caramel brown skin, full lips, a slender body with an amazing ass and great tits. All natural! She had long, natural, flowing jet-black hair and just the right amount of tattoos. None ruining her ass or tits. I sessioned with her for only 40 minutes on site, but got her number / WhatsApp for another time. This would be the best decision of my trip. I ended up having Mia sleep over with me for 4 nights of my trip. Her body was, in my opinion, flawless. She was the perfect mix of romantic passion and being a sheer ****. As much as I would love to keep her for myself, I am giving up her WhatsApp number: +55 (21) XXXXX-1375. If you are near Monte Carlo, she will come by after work (when MC closes for the night). Otherwise, you might get her to come to you during the day (morning) if she doesn't have school, or perhaps in the afternoon. But, the sessions might be rushed, which is why I preferred to have her spend the night. This one is a diamond in the rough. I would take her out of the business if I living in Rio. She is that good!

By day 5, I began to reach out to the BrazilCupid girls I had been chatting up. Out of the 20, I initially reached out to, I narrowed that down to 9, then down to 5. Of those, 4 responded consistently. I met 3 and banged 2! It is a numbers game, gentlemen. The two I banged were both amazing. One was 26 with 1 kid, the other was 29 with two kids. Both said they hadn't had sex in 9 months and 1 ½ years respectively since they divorced their husbands. Let me tell you, from the tightness I experienced with each of them, it had indeed been awhile. The 26 year old had a nice, firm ass and very well hidden 38 D natural breasts. The 29 year old used to do gymnastics and had a very nice body on a short, thick frame. While not as flexible anymore, she definitely had the firmness and the curves you'the expect from a former gymnast. I banged her 3 or 4 of the nights I was there. They are both very nice girls who I hope to tap into the next time I am in Rio. Both are all lovey dovey thinking there is some lasting relationship possible, even though I told them I wasn't ready for that yet. I did get hot and heavy with the third girl. Got her top off, lots of kissing, sucking on the tits, but, she got all moralistic on me every time I tried pulling her shorts down. No matter, the tits were what attracted me to her anyway! 38 DDs easily.

I decided to go to Mabs one night and managed to find the only fully clothed girl in the place as a Beyonce' look alike. Now, I could tell this girl did not have the typical coke-bottle figure that I usually look for, but, looking like Beyonce' was something I couldn't overlook. Turns out this was her first time (supposedly) putting herself out as a GDP. Said she was in school in Sao Paulo and just needed to raise some money during the Olympics. Her sister (believe it or not) was the one who was breaking her in. What this girl did have going for her was a great rack of tits and amazing BJ skills. I'm talking toe-curling good here. She did an all-night with me for $300 R. I tried to get her another night and she had the nerve to ask for $600 R. Perhaps my fault for not negotiating, but, I was insulted that she would dare ask more for the same as two nights earlier. Saw her again in Mabs and gave her the cold shoulder. She WhatsApp'the me back and apologized, but my dance card was full by that point.

Also, during my trip, I managed to visit 3 Massagems / Prives: Dudas Massagens, Bel Prazer, and Delirio Oriental Massagens. I actually went to Dudas first but thought I was in Rio Branco 185. Once I realized I was in Rio Branco 156, I referred to my list of Prives and realized I was in Dudas country. I chose Natalia from a group of 7 girls. Natalia was a 20 why / o with braces and a nice taught, bubble butt. I only took the 30 min /$120 R option. I left there and went straight to Rio Branco 185 and Bel Prazer. There, I also took the ½ hour option and chose Tais, a tall, slender, brown-skinned 19 why / o with long jet-black hair. Very beautiful, but not the most "into it" if you know what I mean. Anyway, her WhatsApp is: +55 (21) XXXXX-6720. I didn't get to Delirio until my second to last day. There, I took the full hour option with Valentina for $200 R. This was a mistake! Valentina gave me a great 15 minute BJ to completion and swallowed it all. Unfortunately, I was not able to recover well enough to bang her bubblebutt ass that attracted me so much. Whether it was due to the sheer amount of sex I had over the previous 10 days, or the fact that she had excessive stretchmarks around her tits and stomach, I was not impressed. To her credit, she kept trying everything to get me back into the game and I did get in there for a good 5-10 minutes, but my head wasn't in it anymore and I was just ready to go.

I had hoped to get one more go at Mia, but literally was down to taxi fare to the airport! Oh well.

Enjoy the photos! Contact the girls and enjoy them in person.

P.S.: There is a girl that hangs out at Mabs—I can't remember her name, but, she is a favela girl who claims she has no phone and wears shiny, hot pants and has amazing legs / ass and killer eyes. I could never close the deal with her due to scheduling conflicts and her always looking for the now client. She is probably my "one that got away. " Any info on her would be appreciated!

Thanks for all the info that made my trip a success!

More photos for your viewing pleasure. Trying to chop up an amazing video of Melissa Gauche.

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1931832]Who know this girl? I saw her in Mab's Copacabana last week, she wanted $350 Real for one hour. I refused because I found her not friendly during our conversation.[/QUOTE]Paying BRL 350 for that would be like paying $100 for a big mac. I mean, I know taste is individual, but that chick is nasty. And not Janet Jackson nasty. Why not browse GPGuia and find the top-rated outcall girls and spend the money on one of them?

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1932318]VM pictures.[/QUOTE]Nice to see pictures from VM, but be careful nobody sees you taking pictures in VM.

[QUOTE=PrixPatrick;1931832]Who know this girl? I saw her in Mab's Copacabana last week, she wanted $350 Real for one hour. I refused because I found her not friendly during our conversation.[/QUOTE]Another MABS over the hill, nasty skag.

Wouldn't do her go free!

I've seen maybe a few sweet girls at MABS.

Most of them have that "been in the biz way too long" look.

When I have struck up a conversation, they believe that they deserve and in turn
command a high price.

Crazy to me!

Oh well, I'm normally just on a pass thru out of curiosity.

I find my gems in Centro or Tinder on occasion I've gotten lucky with a keeper.

Pic of an 18 yr old cutie I met in Centro.
Comes over for whatever I feel like giving her :)

MABS? No thanks, Lol

Avoid the ones who try and take the hand and then the whole arm when you give them a finger.

Once you've hooked up with them outside terma or whereever and theyre hittin you up for money for nothing, they believe theyve got you locked, hooked.

Time to redress the balance.

Let them know with the quickness who the boss is.

I had a few good ones who did a good job outside too-bareback etc. Then start txting they need to buy a stove, buy a dress to go out etc. Loool.
I look like Banco Do Brasil?????

Even when I'm overseas. Too funny.

They could be the sexiest, if they take take take-avoid-they won't change.

Keep diggin and go hit them off if you feel like under controlled environments. Sometimes its actually cheaper just to go smash the girl in the cheap terma for an hour! Lool.

Then she takes home less and will start to think about it.

Its all cat and mouse, mouse and cat.

Take charge.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932384]More photos for your viewing pleasure. Trying to chop up an amazing video of Melissa Gauche.[/QUOTE]Top notch trip report.

I was in Rio during the Olympics the whole time and went to MC several times and sadly never saw the Mia you enjoyed too much. She looks awesome.

One question though what's with all the phone numbers and the xxxxx's blocking the numbers?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932379]I arrived at GIG airport in Rio at 4:30 am, following a 5 hour layover in Lima and an overnight layover in Bogota. I ended up going with the first "official" taxi stand I saw after claiming my bags and clearing customs. Ended up costing $120 R.a bit more than I should have paid, but, I didn't feel like figuring out the best deal and the best taxi vendor. I actually ended up with a pretty hot taxi driver. Not hot in the "I'm trying to get a man" way, but hot in a natural beauty with no makeup and a ponytail kinda way. This helped me realize how much a disadvantage I would be at in not knowing Portuguese. That disadvantage would only apply to hoping to get normal girls I might run into in my comings and goings out and about in Rio. The apartment I rented was amazing! I found it on [URL]HomeAway.com[/URL] and the owner actually convinced me to stay an extra two days at no charge. It was expensive by any normal standards. About $330/ night. But about average for Olympic rates. Plus, I was anxious to lock it in about a year ago, which I did. The place was on Rua Paula Freitas about a block from Copacabana Beach Posto 2. It was about 4 blocks' walk to Siquera Campos Metro Station. Simple 1 bedroom apartment with all the comforts of an American home, including an office with a laptop and WiFi for guest use. After I unpacked, I went literally around the corner to the Pao Acucar grocery store to load up the fridge. I had a ticket to a Men's Basketball Game in Barra the Tijuca (Barra), but decided to skip it and get down to business. So, here were my intended categories for this trip: celebrity escorts from online, BrazilCupid girls, Termas, Street girls, and Vila Mimosa. Before I got started, I needed to get a SIM card. After doing some research and having heard on the street that there was a shortage of SIM cards due to demand by Olympics-goers, I went to the Rio Sul Shopping Center supposedly the only place that had a good supply AND would allow foreigners to get a SIM. Apparently there are some restrictions due to terrorism laws. Thanks Obama. So, I went looking for TIM. Since they were out of SIMs, I ended up after 2 hours of processing with a VIVO SIM card. I paid about $38 USD equivalent and got enough data and voice to last my whole trip (10 days). Now, I was ready to take on the Rio!..[/QUOTE]Whoa! You had your own Olympic games!

What a report!

470 for 40 minutes (room and girl).

610 for 1 hour.

Due to a previous visit I claimed a free entrance so I am just guessing it is normally 110.

Getting very expensive here. Right now there are about a dozen men in the bar.

And only a few more girls than that.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1932593]Top notch trip report.

I was in Rio during the Olympics the whole time and went to MC several times and sadly never saw the Mia you enjoyed too much. She looks awesome.

One question though what's with all the phone numbers and the xxxxx's blocking the numbers?[/QUOTE]Ask Admin. I didn't block out any numbers.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932379]I arrived at GIG airport in Rio at 4:30 am, following a 5 hour layover in Lima and an overnight layover in Bogota. I ended up going with the first "official" taxi stand I saw after claiming my bags and clearing customs.
Thanks for all the info that made my trip a success![/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to write a great report!

Man you have really motivated me. The photos are great. You have excellent taste. You put in a lot of work. !0 days of fucking is not easy but boy is it fun. Very nice report.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932379]Thanks for all the info that made my trip a success![/QUOTE]You are welcome.

Thanks for the Great Report!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1932843]Man you have really motivated me. The photos are great. You have excellent taste. You put in a lot of work. !0 days of fucking is not easy but boy is it fun. Very nice report.[/QUOTE]Sure you are a DR guy because you have not been anywhere else. Once you go to other places you realize what garbage DR is.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1932923]Sure you are a DR guy because you have not been anywhere else. Once you go to other places you realize what garbage DR is.[/QUOTE]Yeah Sousa DR is pretty much trash right now. Once you go to Brazil there is no turning back but still Brazil is still kinda expensive right now with flights being over $1,000 and the dollar is not as strong like last year when it was 4 to 1.

Sousa is much cheaper but last time I was there in June, It was a trash-fest. There is many nights when I would go home with no chicas. I use to go like 5 times a year but I don't think I will return to Sousa DR anytime soon.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1933041]Once you go to Brazil there is no turning back. Sousa is much cheaper but last time I was there in June, It was a trash-fest. There is many nights when I would go home with no chicas. I use to go like 5 times a year but I don't think I will return to Sousa DR anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Yes, once you've sampled the delights of the Brasiliera (including in their butts), then there's no going back as no other place can compare. After I went to Brazil for the first time, I never went back to Costa Rica ever again LOL! I do like the FKKs of Germany, but they are still a distant second to the Termas of Brazil!

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1932593]Top notch trip report.

I was in Rio during the Olympics the whole time and went to MC several times and sadly never saw the Mia you enjoyed too much. She looks awesome.

One question though what's with all the phone numbers and the xxxxx's blocking the numbers?[/QUOTE]I believe the Admin is trying to avoid a problem with someone maliciously posting their ex-girlfriend's number or something like that. Who knows it could have already happened? The Admin has been censuring phone numbers.

Given that the name and some of the number is posted, it shouldn't be too difficult to do a search to find the entire number. I would recommend doing a search by pairing the name with the Brazilian word for escort "acompanhante".

Rodeo9112, I got to hand it to you. You were trying to connect with some all-time popular girls and porn stars. I'm sure you realized some of them have been around for awhile and in their 30's (maybe some 40's). I'm not criticizing at all. It would be interesting running down a Darlene Amaro, Mayara Shelson or a Barbara Ferraz. Barbara has a very firm, monster ass and sculpted body. It's kind of nice to know we have living connections to Rio's hey-day in the 2000's.

Some of these well known women bounce back and forth between Rio and Sao Paulo. That could limit some of the availability. You might have dodged a bullet with Babalu. She looks a bit chunky to me. I believe she might have gotten her start as the blonde Babalu at 4 x4 as far back as 2003.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1932843]Man you have really motivated me. The photos are great. You have excellent taste. You put in a lot of work. !0 days of fucking is not easy but boy is it fun. Very nice report.[/QUOTE]As others have commented, the DR is little leagues compared to Rio / Sao Paulo. Of course, the DR is also much cheaper and much easier to get to.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1933237]Yes, once you've sampled the delights of the Brasiliera (including in their butts), then there's no going back as no other place can compare. After I went to Brazil for the first time, I never went back to Costa Rica ever again LOL! I do like the FKKs of Germany, but they are still a distant second to the Termas of Brazil![/QUOTE]Its really between the termas and the FKKs for the best mongering on the planet. For mongers who value service ahead of looks the termas trump the FKKs. However, if you place a greater priority on physical beauty then the FKKs would be your preference.

A shame that Rodeo9112's great report got buried so quickly below all the pointless posts about DR, FKK etc that has nothing to do with Rio.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932379]I arrived at GIG airport in Rio at 4:30 am, following a 5 hour layover in Lima and an overnight layover in Bogota. I ended up going with the first "official" taxi stand I saw after claiming my bags and clearing customs. Ended up costing $120 R.a bit more than I should have paid, but, I didn't feel like figuring out the best deal and the best taxi vendor. I actually ended up with a pretty hot taxi driver. Not hot in the "I'm trying to get a man" way, but hot in a natural beauty with no makeup and a ponytail kinda way. This helped me realize how much a disadvantage I would be at in not knowing Portuguese. That disadvantage would only apply to hoping to get normal girls I might run into in my comings and goings out and about in Rio. The apartment I rented was amazing! I found it on [URL]HomeAway.com[/URL] and the owner actually convinced me to stay an extra two days at no charge. It was expensive by any normal standards. About $330/ night. But about average for Olympic rates. Plus, I was anxious to lock it in about a year ago, which I did. The place was on Rua Paula Freitas about a block from Copacabana Beach Posto 2. It was about 4 blocks' walk to Siquera Campos Metro Station. Simple 1 bedroom apartment with all the comforts of an American home, including an office with a laptop and WiFi for guest use. After I unpacked, I went literally around the corner to the Pao Acucar grocery store to load up the fridge. I had a ticket to a Men's Basketball Game in Barra the Tijuca (Barra), but decided to skip it and get down to business. So, here were my intended categories for this trip: celebrity escorts from online, BrazilCupid girls, Termas, Street girls, and Vila Mimosa. Before I got started, I needed to get a SIM card. After doing some research and having heard on the street that there was a shortage of SIM cards due to demand by Olympics-goers, I went to the Rio Sul Shopping Center supposedly the only place that had a good supply AND would allow foreigners to get a SIM. Apparently there are some restrictions due to terrorism laws. Thanks Obama. So, I went looking for TIM. Since they were out of SIMs, I ended up after 2 hours of processing with a VIVO SIM card. I paid about $38 USD equivalent and got enough data and voice to last my whole trip (10 days). Now, I was ready to take on the Rio!

My initial plan was to hit up one online / agency girl, one termas girl, and either one BrazilCupid girl or freelancer (Mabs / Barbarellas / VM) per day, with a few massagems sprinkled in for good measure. Well that plan went out of the window as soon as I made my first call.

Here are the online agencies I researched and the girls I noted as who I might hit up via WhatsApp:

Hotside:

*Barbara Ferraz - +55 (21) XXXX-82205.

Anali - +55 (21) XXX-12359.

*Barbara Paes - +55 (21) XXXX-12078.

Hellen Azevedo - +55 (21) XXXX-05468 / +55 (21) XXXX-48232.

Barra VIPs Rio:

*Melissa Gauche - +55 (21) XXXX-59732.

*Babalu - +55 (21) XXXX-25960 / +55 (21) XXXX-07071.

Manu Castro - +55 (21) XXX-62174.

Indiana - +55 (21) XXXX-12337.

Alice Olivier - +55 (21) XXXX-42680.

Lilyane Brasil - +55 (21) XXXX-70731 / +55 (21) XXXX-25886.

Thais Gouveia - +55 (21) XXXX-01414.

Amantesecia:

*Darlene Amaro - +55 (21) XXXX-26270.

Rio Encontro:

*Ana Julia- +55 (21) XXXXX-9797 / +55 (32) XXXXX-1253.

Mia Barra- +55 (21) XXXXX-5173 / +55 (21) XXXXX-8562.

Munique- +55 (21) XXXXX-8053.

*Bella- +55 (21) XXXXX-3463.

*Priscila Pantera- +55 (21) XXXX-7771 / +55 (21) XXXXX-3304 / +55 (21) XXXX-4060.

Sabrina Vilela- +55 (21) XXXXX-3093.

Pamela Prado- +55 (21) XXXXX-2997.

Chantily:

*Melissa Pitanga- +55 (11) XXXXX-6747.

*Mayara Shelson- +55 (11) XXXXX-0604.

I reached out to all those with asterisks next to their names via WhatsApp. Of those, I sessioned with:

Day 1: Ana Julia (Miss Bumbum contestant, multiple years; stayed about 3 hours, no rush, $350 R).

Day 2: Melissa Gauche (Simply the best body I have ever had the pleasure of experiencing. Period. $400 R + taxi to / from Barra; a bit of a clock watcher at the end. Said she would do 2 hour for $600 R.probably the best bet.).

Day 3: Barbara Ferraz (solid, muscular woman, a little older than her modeling photos. Mid 40's! Not as attractive in the face as I had hoped, but, a very nice woman with great skills and attitude. $300 R / about 2 hours).

I had an appointment set with Barbara Paes, but I canceled and never rescheduled. Her rate was $250 R / hour I think, incall in Botafogo.

I also received responses from Babalu and Melissa Pitanga, but they never followed through in scheduling an appointment, so, the numbers are right, just maybe not working at the time.

I quickly realized I was spending too much on these high end GDPs, and decided to stop pursuing them for the remainder of the trip. It was time for me to hit up my favorite venue when visiting Rio .4 x 4!

Purchased a Metro fare card and took the metro from Siquera Campos station to Uruguiana station and walked the few blocks to 4 x 4. My dick literally got harder as I got closer to 4 x 4! I arrived at about 3 pm and hoped to session early to avoid paying the entry fee. About two minutes after sitting down in the Boite, I was immediately greeted by a tall, curvy blonde with a beautiful smile and bright eyes. My apologies, but I can't remember her name. Only because I didn't end up with her. After the usual get to know you's, I told her I was going to speak to some other girls before I decided. After talking to two more really amazing girls, I ended up with Isabella. A 26 why / o, nice, curvy brunette, with a fake ass, a few tats, and a beautiful smile. The fake ass looked great, but you could feel that it was implants rather than collagen, which was a bit of a downer. Her BJ skills were amazing! She was very attentive and passionate sexually. I don't recall if she could speak English or not, but, we had no trouble communicating as she spoke some Spanish as do I. I would highly recommend her to anyone. She has a very kind and warm personality. Her WhatsApp is: +55 (21) XXXXX-4253. She also introduced me to a friend of hers who she liked to dupla with, Ana. Ana was a medium-length blonde with a girl-next-door personality. She most have stroked me off in the Boite for about 30 minutes before she understood that I was not going to session with her at 4 x 4, only at my apartment. She was a little disappointed. And, unfortunately, we never ended up getting the dupla together at my place.

The next night would be me second termas session, this time at Monte Carlo, literally around the corner from where I was staying. I think I arrived around 9:30 pm and there were 25 girls and 7 guys. Talk about a great ratio. They all lined up for me, but, I knew as soon as I walked in who I was going to see. Her name was Mia. She was only 20 years old with nice, caramel brown skin, full lips, a slender body with an amazing ass and great tits. All natural! She had long, natural, flowing jet-black hair and just the right amount of tattoos. None ruining her ass or tits. I sessioned with her for only 40 minutes on site, but got her number / WhatsApp for another time. This would be the best decision of my trip. I ended up having Mia sleep over with me for 4 nights of my trip. Her body was, in my opinion, flawless. She was the perfect mix of romantic passion and being a sheer ****. As much as I would love to keep her for myself, I am giving up her WhatsApp number: +55 (21) XXXXX-1375. If you are near Monte Carlo, she will come by after work (when MC closes for the night). Otherwise, you might get her to come to you during the day (morning) if she doesn't have school, or perhaps in the afternoon. But, the sessions might be rushed, which is why I preferred to have her spend the night. This one is a diamond in the rough. I would take her out of the business if I living in Rio. She is that good!

By day 5, I began to reach out to the BrazilCupid girls I had been chatting up. Out of the 20, I initially reached out to, I narrowed that down to 9, then down to 5. Of those, 4 responded consistently. I met 3 and banged 2! It is a numbers game, gentlemen. The two I banged were both amazing. One was 26 with 1 kid, the other was 29 with two kids. Both said they hadn't had sex in 9 months and 1 years respectively since they divorced their husbands. Let me tell you, from the tightness I experienced with each of them, it had indeed been awhile. The 26 year old had a nice, firm ass and very well hidden 38 D natural breasts. The 29 year old used to do gymnastics and had a very nice body on a short, thick frame. While not as flexible anymore, she definitely had the firmness and the curves you'the expect from a former gymnast. I banged her 3 or 4 of the nights I was there. They are both very nice girls who I hope to tap into the next time I am in Rio. Both are all lovey dovey thinking there is some lasting relationship possible, even though I told them I wasn't ready for that yet. I did get hot and heavy with the third girl. Got her top off, lots of kissing, sucking on the tits, but, she got all moralistic on me every time I tried pulling her shorts down. No matter, the tits were what attracted me to her anyway! 38 DDs easily.

I decided to go to Mabs one night and managed to find the only fully clothed girl in the place as a Beyonce' look alike. Now, I could tell this girl did not have the typical coke-bottle figure that I usually look for, but, looking like Beyonce' was something I couldn't overlook. Turns out this was her first time (supposedly) putting herself out as a GDP. Said she was in school in Sao Paulo and just needed to raise some money during the Olympics. Her sister (believe it or not) was the one who was breaking her in. What this girl did have going for her was a great rack of tits and amazing BJ skills. I'm talking toe-curling good here. She did an all-night with me for $300 R. I tried to get her another night and she had the nerve to ask for $600 R. Perhaps my fault for not negotiating, but, I was insulted that she would dare ask more for the same as two nights earlier. Saw her again in Mabs and gave her the cold shoulder. She WhatsApp'the me back and apologized, but my dance card was full by that point.

Also, during my trip, I managed to visit 3 Massagems / Prives: Dudas Massagens, Bel Prazer, and Delirio Oriental Massagens. I actually went to Dudas first but thought I was in Rio Branco 185. Once I realized I was in Rio Branco 156, I referred to my list of Prives and realized I was in Dudas country. I chose Natalia from a group of 7 girls. Natalia was a 20 why / o with braces and a nice taught, bubble butt. I only took the 30 min /$120 R option. I left there and went straight to Rio Branco 185 and Bel Prazer. There, I also took the hour option and chose Tais, a tall, slender, brown-skinned 19 why / o with long jet-black hair. Very beautiful, but not the most "into it" if you know what I mean. Anyway, her WhatsApp is: +55 (21) XXXXX-6720. I didn't get to Delirio until my second to last day. There, I took the full hour option with Valentina for $200 R. This was a mistake! Valentina gave me a great 15 minute BJ to completion and swallowed it all. Unfortunately, I was not able to recover well enough to bang her bubblebutt ass that attracted me so much. Whether it was due to the sheer amount of sex I had over the previous 10 days, or the fact that she had excessive stretchmarks around her tits and stomach, I was not impressed. To her credit, she kept trying everything to get me back into the game and I did get in there for a good 5-10 minutes, but my head wasn't in it anymore and I was just ready to go.

I had hoped to get one more go at Mia, but literally was down to taxi fare to the airport! Oh well.

Enjoy the photos! Contact the girls and enjoy them in person.

P.S.: There is a girl that hangs out at MabsI can't remember her name, but, she is a favela girl who claims she has no phone and wears shiny, hot pants and has amazing legs / ass and killer eyes. I could never close the deal with her due to scheduling conflicts and her always looking for the now client. She is probably my "one that got away. " Any info on her would be appreciated!

Thanks for all the info that made my trip a success![/QUOTE]Just as many have previously posted, a great report with details and photos. It has been quite sometime since I seen such in this forum. Thanks Rodeo9122.

Lonzof.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1933516]Its really between the termas and the FKKs for the best mongering on the planet. For mongers who value service ahead of looks the termas trump the FKKs. However, if you place a greater priority on physical beauty then the FKKs would be your preference.[/QUOTE]That's true for some mongers only. I spent enough time mongering in Brazil and FKKs, but there are many other places worth checking out. Colombia is one of them, and so are Thailand, Philippines, and many other SEA countries. Hence, the fun is not limited to the 2 places you mentioned, that's misleading.

[QUOTE=Lonzof;1933536]Just as many have previously posted, a great report with details and photos. It has been quite sometime since I seen such in this forum. Thanks Rodeo9122.

Lonzof.[/QUOTE]Please make an effort not to rehash the entire post again. That was a long post, and folks can go to the original post if they are so inclined to read it again. Thanks for your consideration.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1933540]That's true for some mongers only. I spent enough time mongering in Brazil and FKKs, but there are many other places worth checking out. Colombia is one of them, and so are Thailand, Philippines, and many other SEA countries. Hence, the fun is not limited to the 2 places you mentioned, that's misleading.[/QUOTE]I'm heading to Germany FKK's around April, How does it compare to the Brazil Termas? Can you get GFE or are the girls rushing you so they can suck off the next john. I love Brazil because the women are beautiful and there sex game is amazing. They really take care of you.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1933540]That's true for some mongers only. I spent enough time mongering in Brazil and FKKs, but there are many other places worth checking out. Colombia is one of them, and so are Thailand, Philippines, and many other SEA countries. Hence, the fun is not limited to the 2 places you mentioned, that's misleading.[/QUOTE]You did not misinterpret what I said. I did say the fun is limited only to the two places I mentioned and no where else. I did not say that these two places are the best mongering on the planet. Your cognitive abilities are phenomenal.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1933533]A shame that Rodeo9112's great report got buried so quickly below all the pointless posts about DR, FKK etc that has nothing to do with Rio.[/QUOTE]So why don't you make it a Report of Distinction then if you like it so much rather just complaining about what other people post?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1933533]A shame that Rodeo9112's great report got buried so quickly below all the pointless posts about DR, FKK etc that has nothing to do with Rio.[/QUOTE]OK, so I see that you did place the report in the ROD section. Good! And even less reason for anybody to be complaining about it being "buried". You can do to the ROD section and voila!

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1933650]I'm heading to Germany FKK's around April, How does it compare to the Brazil Termas? [/QUOTE]Can you two go off-line (PM) with those details? Or into the Germany thread where you may be able to get other input as well?

Thanks fellas.

Well I have been to 30 countries. As comparison. Rio girls are I think the best in terms of. Sex, passion, body, face, attitude, GFE, anal, no rush, and the most I like is kiss and best uncovered blow jobs. But I might be wrong but as my 11 trips to Rio from the days of help disco till this year. I enjoy Rio the most.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1933650]I'm heading to Germany FKK's around April, How does it compare to the Brazil Termas? Can you get GFE or are the girls rushing you so they can suck off the next john. I love Brazil because the women are beautiful and there sex game is amazing. They really take care of you.[/QUOTE]IMO the top two items on every hobbyist's checklist should be the FKKs in Germany and the Termas in Rio. Both are fantastic, unique experiences. The Termas because the girls are Brasilian and the Brasilenas are in a league of their own for performance (which you already know).

The FKKs are a similar idea but with some key differences. First, the girls are usually completely naked (other than heels). It's just incredible to have 100 or so hot-looking women walking around and you can see their whole body before committing to a session. Another great thing about them is the facilities, which are generally way nicer than the Termas. Also, the girls tend to be Eastern European (mostly Romanian) so you might be missing the more typical Latina look. Personally I like darker-complexioned women and they're harder to find in FKKs (though some may have some African women).

I would say on average the service won't be as good as in Brasil. You are more likely to get rushed by the girls. If you could import all Brasilenas to the FKKs, that would be Nirvana.

Number three on the monger's checklist (again just IMO) would be the soapies in BKK.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1933544]Please make an effort not to rehash the entire post again. That was a long post, and folks can go to the original post if they are so inclined to read it again. Thanks for your consideration.[/QUOTE]Lefeu,

Did not ask for idiotic advise.

Lonzof.

[QUOTE=Lonzof;1933738]Lefeu,

Did not ask for idiotic advise.

Lonzof.[/QUOTE]Ok. It was a long post.

Lonzof.

[QUOTE=Combo;1933725]...If you could import all Brasilenas to the FKKs, that would be Nirvana.

Number three on the monger's checklist (again just IMO) would be the soapies in BKK.[/QUOTE]Actually, I have seen some Brazilian ladies at the FKKs, as well as Colombians and even Asian ladies. However, my wingman took one of the Brazilian lady, against my advice and he was sorry. The service was just not there, as I suspected. IMO, the best place to enjoy a Brazilian lady is in Brazil. Once they start working elsewhere, they become quickly jaded.

I agree with you on BKK, and Thailand in general, but the soapies? The soapie body sliding is fun for sure, but definitely not the best Thailand has to offer.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1933693]So why don't you make it a Report of Distinction then if you like it so much rather just complaining about what other people post?[/QUOTE]
If you had paid attention you would have noticed I already made it a report of distiction two days ago.
I don't understand the need for having a discussion about DR or German FKK in the Rio thread. For those who really are interested in updates in the Rio mongering scene it becomes hard to notice the few quality posts about Rio that turns up every now and then, like Rodeo9112's post.
IMO if you have the need to tell about your experiences in German FKKs you should do it in the proper thread where you would get better input and not clutter the Rio thread where very few care about German FKK.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1933794]If you had paid attention you would have noticed I already made it a report of distiction two days ago.
I don't understand the need for having a discussion about DR or German FKK in the Rio thread. For those who really are interested in updates in the Rio mongering scene it becomes hard to notice the few quality posts about Rio that turns up every now and then, like Rodeo9112's post.
IMO if you have the need to tell about your experiences in German FKKs you should do it in the proper thread where you would get better input and not clutter the Rio thread where very few care about German FKK.[/QUOTE]And if you had paid attention, you would have noticed that I subsequently acknowledged you added the report to the ROD. I don't think that the discussion here (or anywhere) should be so "tight" that people should be chastised for mentioning or talking about other places to monger at all. It's only natural for people to want to make comparisons, and they should be encouraged to do so as this is informative to the readership too. Of course, you want to keep it under control. If somebody wants to go into a "deep dive" about the German FKKs, then yes they should do that in one of the threads for Germany. But, I don't think anybody here went there or did anything that could be deemed excessive. I think these types of forums work best when we let the moderators do their jobs and moderate versus senior members trying to tell other people what they should be posting about and where. At the end of the day, that's not our role or responsibility to manage. And that's just my two cents on it.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1933794]If you had paid attention you would have noticed I already made it a report of distiction two days ago. [/QUOTE]?????he did acknowledge that you put it in the reports of distinction.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1932589]Avoid the ones who try and take the hand and then the whole arm when you give them a finger.

Once you've hooked up with them outside terma or whereever and theyre hittin you up for money for nothing, they believe theyve got you locked, hooked.

Time to redress the balance.

Let them know with the quickness who the boss is.

I had a few good ones who did a good job outside too-bareback etc. Then start txting they need to buy a stove, buy a dress to go out etc. Loool.
I look like Banco Do Brasil?????

Even when I'm overseas. Too funny.

They could be the sexiest, if they take take take-avoid-they won't change.

Keep diggin and go hit them off if you feel like under controlled environments. Sometimes its actually cheaper just to go smash the girl in the cheap terma for an hour! Lool.

Then she takes home less and will start to think about it.

Its all cat and mouse, mouse and cat.

Take charge.[/QUOTE]This is great advice actually.

Guys that play with garotas outside their arena, will understand this.

I agree with Sperto.

Too much blah blah about DR / Deutschland, etc.

Great report Rodeo!

I'm back in Rio tomorrow!

More exploring / reporting. :)

[QUOTE=The Cane;1933871]I don't think that the discussion here (or anywhere) should be so "tight" that people should be chastised for mentioning or talking about other places to monger at all. It's only natural for people to want to make comparisons, and they should be encouraged to do so as this is informative to the readership too.[/QUOTE]
OK. I'm wondering how the titty-bars in Kinshasa compare to Florida Bar at Praça Mauá and if the streetwalkers in Bangalore use new sheets between each client, unlike VM, and most important if the pro's in Kyrgyzstan do BBBJCIM?

I came to Rio de Janeiro Sunday. I speak Portuguese from Portugal I learned there I've been to Rio many times.

That is what I enjoyed in Rio for the moment.

1st day: I took a bus from the airport to Copacabana (17 reais) I always avoid taxi or private cars in the airport, they always charge too much. I wanted to take a uber car but the internet connection was very slow. I arrived in the studio I am renting at 7 o clock. I went to Mabs at 10 pm, it was very slow I stayed few hours and then I went to Casablanca club, the entry is 80 reais but I paid 50 reais. There were only three guys and 8 girls, 2 girls came to me were a bit aggressive and hungry for money, 1st girl: she asked me if you want to make festa, I answered pode ser mais tarde, she said OK after one minute of conversation she wanted me to buy vodka with redbul I answered nao posso hoje nao tenho dineiro comigo she said a casa aceita a cartao tambem I answered I don't use cards she left.

2nd girl came to me and talked to me, she directly ask me drinks but I was not really interested. I can't today maybe next time, after one hour I left Casablanca, this club is not really good, the room is very small it is not worth paying 100 reais for the room or to take the girl out, it is more like a gringo trap.

2nd day I went to Mabs at 11 pm, more girls than Sunday, same girls from my last trip, I still see the same guys, the same vendors, nothing changed, the girls charge 200 or 300 reais, I see some girls leaving with some tourists after 30 minutes I see them coming back to mabs (fast fuck) they always try to get as many clients as possible mabs is miss or hit but it is more often miss. Some girls are patient but many are not, I left mabs at 2 am I went to kalabria the entry is 50 reais many girls inside I called a girl I like we talked for few minutes she asked me if I want to make festa now [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]. Finally I haven't fucked since I arrive at Rio.

3rd day: I went to the center with some friends we went to some sex clubs I don't remember the names, but all the clubs are with number name (ex 81) , the entry is free, the price is 55 reais for 15 minutes, 65 reais for 20 minutes ,100 reais 40 minutes 150 reais 1 hours another club charges 182 reais one hour, in these clubs there were more guys than girls, most guys are just there to watch the girls and dance because the entries are free so anybody can enter, only few pick a girl, it is only frequented by Brazilians not many gringos. I finally picked a skinny black girl I paid 65 reais for 20 minutes. The room are OK, there is a big bed so you can fuck very well, it is worth it.

4th day: I went to 4 por 4 terma, I fucked a big curvy white girl with black hair, very big fat ass and legs, her body is natural, 350 reais one hour, she did completa, she sucked without condom, the room is fine and very clean, you can take a shower before fucking, the facility is very good in 4 por 4 there are many floors.

When you fuck by 6 pm you don't pay any entry fee (50 reais) 4 por 4 is a good terma and well organized many working people ask you tips, doormen, people working in the room, people in the reception, I never tipped, I only tipped the girl working in the locker.

5th day, I drank one drink at Mabs it was 11 pm, always the same things nothing changed still the same guys, same girls, same vendors. I left for mosaic at 12 am, it was Thursday many girls, like 50 girls, the entry starts from 30 reais that means you can consume for 30 reais, you receive a card from the doorman before entering, the price 9 reais one soft drink (coca, guarana, fanta, water) one beer bottle, (16 reais) , redbul 23 reais, finally I did not fuck, I went to vila mimosa after going out of mosaic, it is only few minute walk, I picked a skinny morena girl, I stayed with her 20 minutes, I paid 40 reais.

6th day I went back to Mosaic, same price for the entry, I drank few drinks, I called the first girl, she is morena, but she was too fast, she asked me to book the room in advance because we risk waiting, I said there is no problem for me to wait, and all the rooms are not taken, I asked her if she sucks without condon and did completa, she said I only do vaginal and kiss the cheek, she said if I want completa and without condom blowjob I have to pay 350 reais one hour with suite, I said I can only go with normal room (200 reais one hour) and then she said [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue], I answered I am no more interested, not interested in very fast girls. Finally this girl did not get any client that day.

I came to a black girl, she said I remembered you I talked to you few minutes ago, I said I never talked to you, did you talked to me? Do you remember my name? No I talked to many people I can't remember, ok you can't remember, only few minutes ago, she starts talking oddly, the doorman said to the girl (nao e isso, fala bem) I was quiet for few seconds, the girl started to converse with me, and then I said I am no more interested, nao vale a pena a conversacao começou mau, the doorman said to the girl, o problema e vc, nao e do cliente. Few minutes later, I called skinny white girl, with small ass and tits, blond hair and green eyes, she came to me, , we talked, very nice very patient, not aggressive, I was her first gringo, I felt well when I converse with her, we danced, I stayed with her one hour before going to the room, she did completa, 200 reais one hour with normal room, the mosaic boate is more frequented by Brazilian guys, many girls haven't got clients for few days, most guys just stay there drink, dance and watch. It is more or less like termas the girls don't get client everyday. Avoid aggressive and fast girls, these girls are not chosen by the guys, because they know the service will be bad. Like in the termas, so you have to watch before taking a girl and converse well, because if it is fast fuck without conversation better to go to vm.

I hope to enjoy as much as possible in Rio.

Anyway someone wants to drink and go out you can let me know, the atmosphere is better when there are more people together.

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[QUOTE=Komo753;1934287]after one hour I left Casablanca, this club is not really good, the room is very small it is not worth paying 100 reais for the room or to take the girl out, it is more like a gringo trap..[/QUOTE]Actually did a three-some in that small backroom (with small girls). The girls were great, but there is little room to maneuver. Think of a two person sofa and then think about building a wall around it. Best part was repeat visits with the girls outside the club in a much more comfortable surroundings.

The girls will pass in and out of these clubs to see which ones have clients. Even if they can't get a client, maybe they can get a drink. If you go into a club like this and stay for 10 minutes and leave you might as well not have gone in at all. What would be better to do is ask the doorman if you can take a quick look. Get a feel, then stay or leave. If you stay, stay a bit because as I said, girls come and go. I have been in a club thinking I was wasting my time and in walks a beauty. When that happens, don't fall off your chair going after her. Play it cool. How much you pay depends on it. You know she is hot. She knows she is hot. What she doesn't want to do is leave without a client.

Pebble, firmly in hand.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1934287]I came to Rio de Janeiro Sunday. I speak Portuguese from Portugal I learned there I've been to Rio many times.

1st day: I took a bus from the airport to Copacabana (17 reais) I always avoid taxi or private cars in the airport, they always charge too much. I wanted to take a uber car but the internet connection was very slow.[/QUOTE]I tried to use Uber from GIG to go to Copacabana. I tried for about 15 minutes, at two different areas of the airport. I had a good phone connection. Sometimes it seemed like it would work, but it won't. On my way to the airport I used Uber, but I must have accidentally chosen Uberblack. The charge was 59.96 Reais. When we got close to the airport I told him I wasn't able to use Uber at the airport. He told me how to do it. On Uber don't select pick you up at the airport. Select a place slightly away from the airport. In the Uber app you will see lots of Uber cars waiting to the Southeast of the airport. You will use Uber to pick you up there, but you will need to call the driver to tell him where you really are. There are a bunch of Uber drivers there to get people from the airport. They probably dropped someone off at the airport and would like to have a customer on the way back. You will hope he can speak English, but you speak Portuguese anyways. Other members could send him a translated though.

Hello guys,

I am in Centro for 7 weeks and have a few questions:

- I am very close to a Swinger Club called 'Mistura Certa Clube'. It's actually quite expensive to enter on a weekend night as a single man (250 RS). Anyone know the place? Can recommend?

- In Centro, can you please recommend good place for 'Relax Massages' (not sure how you call that, but I mean just a good massage and a good BJ until the end. Also body to body massage). I have been reading about 2 places very close to each other, close to 'Carioca': Bel Prazer and Flavia Massagens. Anyone been there? What prices to be expected? Any other place to be recommended?

- Any general advice for good clubs to pick girls from? Clubs that attracts girls who want to have a foreigner in their list? (I am in my early 30 and still look good plus I can speak a bit of Portuguese so well).

Thanks if someone can answer at least 1 or 2 of my questions.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1934584]Hello guys,

I am in Centro for 7 weeks and have a few questions:

- I am very close to a Swinger Club called 'Mistura Certa Clube'. It's actually quite expensive to enter on a weekend night as a single man (250 RS). Anyone know the place? Can recommend?

- In Centro, can you please recommend good place for 'Relax Massages' (not sure how you call that, but I mean just a good massage and a good BJ until the end. Also body to body massage). I have been reading about 2 places very close to each other, close to 'Carioca': Bel Prazer and Flavia Massagens. Anyone been there? What prices to be expected? Any other place to be recommended?

- Any general advice for good clubs to pick girls from? Clubs that attracts girls who want to have a foreigner in their list? (I am in my early 30 and still look good plus I can speak a bit of Portuguese so well).

Thanks if someone can answer at least 1 or 2 of my questions.[/QUOTE]1. RTTF. Yeh you have to sort through a bunch of BS posts about how the DR or Colombia is better than Brazil, or how great Help used to be (jesus! Get over it!) . But a lot of the info you have asked for is here, even if you board-search or dig up BubbaBoy's old guide.

2) I don't advise trying to find a body-to-body massage in Rio. For a nice private, try Emporio Do Banho. Get a room with a fish tank! Maybe you get a girl who actually knows how to give a massage, but I doubt it. What's a top private like Emporio charge these days, maybe BRL 180 or BRL 200 for an hour?

3) If you mean regular clubs, not a clue. If you mean brothels, basically all of them. The girls at centro termas / brothels are likely to be less jaded about foreigners, excluding 4 x4 and some of the better known ones.

4) I'd never pay as a single guy to go to a swinger's club. Best bet is to find a girl you like -- at a private -- and take her with you.

5) WTF are you doing in Centro for 7 weeks? Where are you staying? Share info!

Please report back and share your experiences.

Wow! Thanks for all the kudos on the report. I actually thought it was a bit sub-par compared to some other, more detailed and humorous, alcohol-inspired reports I've written for Rio, Bogota, Panama City, and DR. Glad to see I haven't lost it after 6 years since my last report. Next one will be after my DR trip in early October. I'm going to do a lot of damage with $1,000 in 5 days and a villa with a pool in Sosua!

I've been to many destinations including Southeast Asia, Europe and the Caribbean region. Brazil is hands down my favorite place for mongering. You can have great experiences anywhere, but on average Brazilian girls provide the most reliable GFEs. The sexuality of Brazilian women is impossible to put into words. Perhaps more importantly and without exaggeration, you will not find anything that compares to the Brazilian ass (Bunda! Some of the girls are thick, but even thin girls have posterior curves that kill. Brazilian girls are also all colors and sizes.

Rio is also one of the most beautiful cities in the world. The beaches also have the hottest women in the world. South Beach (Miami) is the only beach that can come close. Sure there are several mongering destinations that can be combined with beach holidays, but all in all I prefer a week chilling and relaxing on Copacabana or Ipanema beach combined with some sightseeing.

For mongers traveling alone, Rio can be a place to recruit a sex buddy / tour guide in a great tourist destination. This requires building some rapport. If you desire, some Brazilian "programa" girls are great at providing the allusion of a GF in and out of bed.

Lastly, I like the wide variety of outlets available for mongering. The Termas, Clinicas, Boates (like Barbarella), Escorts, Vila Mimosa, Avenida Atlantica bars and maybe even the beach. Everyone has their own preferred venues in Rio. I prefer the party atmosphere that can get going at a place like Termas 4 x 4. Currently, I am unaware of a dance club in Rio where you can reliably find working girls. We can hope though.

At 6 pm, I went to the club 13 in the center next to the Uruguayan station, 25 girls more or less, free entrance I drank one soft drink (coke), 8 reais, I picked a skinny morena for 20 minutes cost 60 reais, I chilled with the girl before going to the room, I also visited another club but I forgot the number name.

The bar is very laid back, you can relax, converse with some girls before picking one girl, the bar is more frequented by Brazilians, I only saw an Asian gringo.

15 minutes (50 reais).

20 minutes (60 reais).

30 minutes (75 reais).

1 hour (140 reais).

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1935028]
4) I'd never pay as a single guy to go to a swinger's club. Best bet is to find a girl you like -- at a private -- and take her with you.
[/QUOTE]Me and another member went in Barbarellas last week. The girls sitting next to us kept saying they wanted us to take them to a swingers club. But me and him agreed that we have to at least fuck the girl first before taking them to a swingers club. We didn't take their bait though. We checked out other places. Some Barbarella girls will go to a swingers club. It would probably cost quite a bit though. I can't remember what the fees were for those girls, but they asked for a lot.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1932384]More photos for your viewing pleasure. Trying to chop up an amazing video of Melissa Gauche.[/QUOTE]Rodeo. Looks like your PM inbox has been filled to capacity. Hoping to get Mia's number from you via PM please, as I'll be in Rio next week for work. Thanks very much in advance!

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1935623]Me and another member went in Barbarellas last week. The girls sitting next to us kept saying they wanted us to take them to a swingers club. But me and him agreed that we have to at least fuck the girl first before taking them to a swingers club. We didn't take their bait though. We checked out other places. Some Barbarella girls will go to a swingers club. It would probably cost quite a bit though. I can't remember what the fees were for those girls, but they asked for a lot.[/QUOTE]I think what he was saying was that he would never go to a swingers club as a single male, that he would take somebody, unless you're a movie star type single men don't get much play in swingers club and most are not even allowed except for certain nights. Also most girls will go to a swingers club with you from anywhere including Mabs if you pay them appropriately for their time as it ends up being close to a 4 hour gig.

I went to Mabs yesterday at 1 am, always the same girls, nothing changed only few good looking girls, I tried to pick a girl I was interested in she wanted to charge me 350 reais (crazy price) gringo price) how long? 1 hour, only Copacabana next to Leme or the hotels in the lido Copacabana next to Leme equal (fast fuck and back to Mabs as soon as possible) I gave up better to keep the money, finally did not pick any girl.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1935904]I went to Mabs yesterday at 1 am, always the same girls, nothing changed only few good looking girls, I tried to pick a girl I was interested in she wanted to charge me 350 reais (crazy price) gringo price) how long? 1 hour, only Copacabana next to Leme or the hotels in the lido Copacabana next to Leme equal (fast fuck and back to Mabs as soon as possible) I gave up better to keep the money, finally did not pick any girl.[/QUOTE]You're better off not doing that but you're also going to gringo spot number 1 so of course they all try it.

I personally don't feel comfortable grabbin people off streets or public places or even mabs etc despite there being some nice ones sometimes. I like to know where they come back to etc-a terma manager etc a privee etc if its a pro... I guess provides some sort of control over situation and security but more power to those who pull it off.Abracos

Someone knows how much it is Cancun terma? I called them they can't give me the price.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1936244]Someone knows how much it is Cancun terma? I called them they can't give me the price.[/QUOTE]Cancun's pricing can be a little complex and they seem to be constantly changing whether the entrada (BRL 70 last time I was there in July) buys you "consumption" credit for drinks or not. I'd guess it's around BRL 220-250 for the hour, besides the entrada. Here's an idea -- pop in and have a look and report back!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1936515]Cancun's pricing can be a little complex and they seem to be constantly changing whether the entrada (BRL 70 last time I was there in July) buys you "consumption" credit for drinks or not. I'd guess it's around BRL 220-250 for the hour, besides the entrada. Here's an idea -- pop in and have a look and report back![/QUOTE]When I was there earlier this year it was at least 320 for the hour and 70 entrance (going to consumption of drinks / food).

Anyone knows why Brazil Airline Tickets are so expensive. If you look at the prices there around $1300-$1800 dollars. I thought the Olympics is over? Am I missing something?

I went to 4 por 4, the terma is good, good infrastructure, good atmosphere, I fucked good but when I cumed I said damn did I really pay 330 reais for that? After cuming I don't want to stay with the girl more time what I noticed in Rio, it is not because you pay more you get better service, my best fucks were with the girls I paid less, the girl quality is not better in a place than another place, there are girls in every shape in every place, I also saw ugly girls in the termas, these ugly girls are beautiful for other men, taste is different, the only thing that changes is the room quality, the bar quality, the facility quality. I fucked once in vm, I won't fuck again, because the room was very dirty and smelly, now I have no motivation to fuck there even when there are few good looking girls. For safety any prostitute goes with many men, terma, Vm clubs, Mabs, street, private, massagem etc, we have to protect ourselves for anal and vaginal act with any prostitute. Because even high class men are sick. Prostitutes from termas are not as clean as any pro.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1936545]Anyone knows why Brazil Airline Tickets are so expensive. If you look at the prices there around $1300-$1800 dollars. I thought the Olympics is over? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I paid US $ 601 for a RT flight from JFK to Sao Paulo in October on LATAM. Booked RT flights to Rio for $110 on skyskanner.net. RT to Rio from JFK would have been about $850-$900, so I got a cheaper fare and get to monger in Sao Paulo also. I don't know where you are getting the prices you quoted. Have you looked on [URL]kayak.com[/URL], which is where I found my SP fare?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1936545]Anyone knows why Brazil Airline Tickets are so expensive. If you look at the prices there around $1300-$1800 dollars. I thought the Olympics is over? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Latam and American Airlines have set up a profit sharing agreement, and have raised their prices. Effectively, one less player in the market. Check out air Canada specials. Or look for cheap fares to nearby countries, such as Trinidad. Once in Brazil you can get cheap domestic flights.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1936566]I paid US $ 601 for a RT flight from JFK to Sao Paulo in October on LATAM. Booked RT flights to Rio for $110 on skyskanner.net. RT to Rio from JFK would have been about $850-$900, so I got a cheaper fare and get to monger in Sao Paulo also. I don't know where you are getting the prices you quoted. Have you looked on [URL]kayak.com[/URL], which is where I found my SP fare?[/QUOTE]Depends on where you are flying out from, direct from Atlanta can run you 1,500 but from New York connecting thru Atlanta could be cheaper. Don't know why but some time it is.

It will take a while for flight prices to drop of they do! They still have the para Olympics and the December holiday season Brazilians traveling there for Christmas and new years. I would not expect to see a drop until new year.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1936515]Cancun's pricing can be a little complex and they seem to be constantly changing whether the entrada (BRL 70 last time I was there in July) buys you "consumption" credit for drinks or not. I'd guess it's around BRL 220-250 for the hour, besides the entrada. Here's an idea -- pop in and have a look and report back![/QUOTE]Thank for the update.

They changed the price again, last time I went to Cancun was in April I remember paying 320 Reais for the hour, + entrance 70 reais consumption, 70 reais never changed only the session.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1936842]Thank for the update.

They changed the price again, last time I went to Cancun was in April I remember paying 320 Reais for the hour, + entrance 70 reais consumption, 70 reais never changed only the session.[/QUOTE]OK, as of 16:00 hs, September 15th the rates are 70 reais entrance which goes towards consumption. Girl and and cabin for 40 minutes will set back 310 reais, and 60 minutes will have a tab of 330 reais as written by the receptionist.

Also, 65 is closed again. The doors must have been shut again after the Olympics.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1936959]OK, as of 16:00 hs, September 15th the rates are 70 reais entrance which goes towards consumption. Girl and and cabin for 40 minutes will set back 310 reais, and 60 minutes will have a tab of 330 reais as written by the receptionist.

Also, 65 is closed again. The doors must have been shut again after the Olympics.[/QUOTE]Great update thanks. That's amazing that the hour upsell is only BRL 20 more. Most Termas do insane pricing on the 20 more minutes.

From what I recall I think 1 hr at 502 was 250 BRL. And from what I recall the talent at Cancun wasn't much better. Pushing 400 BRL for entrada and 1 hr is starting to price at the upper end of Centro T's.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1937086]Great update thanks. That's amazing that the hour upsell is only BRL 20 more. Most Termas do insane pricing on the 20 more minutes.

From what I recall I think 1 hr at 502 was 250 BRL. And from what I recall the talent at Cancun wasn't much better. Pushing 400 BRL for entrada and 1 hr is starting to price at the upper end of Centro T's.[/QUOTE]502 is 250 an hour now. They all tweak the prices upwards untill theyre all out of business.

Cancun definetely doesn't have greater talent than 502. Only has more volume.

I have found 1 absolute diamond in Cancun who became my GF and quit after a 3 week career. 18 years old. About to go freelance again as she's single.

I found one other one who as well quit and continued dating me outside. Untill she finally relented to financial pressures and started again at MC for this year's Olympics.

Mean tall negra -Pam Grier vibe. Afro. Titties defying gravity like Hello, Pussy tight as anything.

400 for an hour all in is pushing it for Centro allthough the clientele at Cancun is more suits and straight corny business types so they will probably swallow it.

Let them tweak prices upward-I will hit even more darkside spots. That's where the real freaky fucks are found. Because the Brazilian clientele wouldn't accept anything else. And me neither!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1937525]502 is 250 an hour now. They all tweak the prices upwards untill theyre all out of business.

Cancun definetely doesn't have greater talent than 502. Only has more volume.

I have found 1 absolute diamond in Cancun who became my GF and quit after a 3 week career. 18 years old. About to go freelance again as she's single.

I found one other one who as well quit and continued dating me outside. Untill she finally relented to financial pressures and started again at MC for this year's Olympics.

Mean tall negra -Pam Grier vibe. Afro. Titties defying gravity like Hello, Pussy tight as anything.

400 for an hour all in is pushing it for Centro allthough the clientele at Cancun is more suits and straight corny business types so they will probably swallow it.

Let them tweak prices upward-I will hit even more darkside spots. That's where the real freaky fucks are found. Because the Brazilian clientele wouldn't accept anything else. And me neither![/QUOTE]I went to a club yesterday opposite the club 210 in rua Uruguayan, I don't know the number, I picked a skinny white girl I only paid 50 reais for 15 minutes, I don't care about the room and the infrastructure, I care more about the talent, in Cancun and 4 por 4 I found good girls but there are also some lazy girls, but when it is miss you really regret because you lose more money, every place is OK, it depends on your situation, on the girl you pick.

Where is 502 ? How many girls? There are girls with every shape? Skinny girls, curvy girls etc?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1936545]Anyone knows why Brazil Airline Tickets are so expensive. If you look at the prices there around $1300-$1800 dollars. I thought the Olympics is over? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Yes, they are expensive. The tickets that are $800, are 24 hrs one way coming and going. The tickets that are 10 hrs one way are $1500. I've been looking for a week. Just brought on for $1262 from jfk to gig round trip 10 hrs one way. Used [URL]Brazilianexpress.com[/URL]. Its better to call to get best price, but you can search their website to give you an idea of pricing.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1937710]I went to a club yesterday opposite the club 210 in rua Uruguayan, I don't know the number, I picked a skinny white girl I only paid 50 reais for 15 minutes, I don't care about the room and the infrastructure, I care more about the talent, in Cancun and 4 por 4 I found good girls but there are also some lazy girls, but when it is miss you really regret because you lose more money, every place is OK, it depends on your situation, on the girl you pick.

Where is 502 ? How many girls? There are girls with every shape? Skinny girls, curvy girls etc?[/QUOTE]502 is down the block from 4 x4. Ask the foorman at 4 x4. I beleive 4 x4 and 502 have the same owners or something like that. They are about a block away from each other.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1936545]Anyone knows why Brazil Airline Tickets are so expensive. If you look at the prices there around $1300-$1800 dollars. I thought the Olympics is over? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I would say airfare prices are independent of such events (like the Olympics). They are more seasonal than event-related.

You may find better deals on women and apartment rentals since the Olympics are over. As for airfare, don't count on it.

In the Termas in Brazil are the girls fully nice like some Fkks in Germany?

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1938034]In the Termas in Brazil are the girls fully nice like some Fkks in Germany?[/QUOTE]I think you meant fully nude. No. They have on bikinis or lingerie, except when they do a stage routine. Then they will get nekkit.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1937939]502 is down the block from 4 x4.. They are about a block away from each other.[/QUOTE]Head down Av. Rio Branco towards Candeleira Church and Av. Presidente Vargas. 502 is on the corner of Rua de Alfandegas and Av Rio Branco.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1937939]502 is down the block from 4 x4. Ask the foorman at 4 x4. I beleive 4 x4 and 502 have the same owners or something like that. They are about a block away from each other.[/QUOTE]Google maps shows it as "Point 502. " Do a search for Point 502, Centro, RJ.

It is a the corner of Rua [NOPARSE]da[/NOPARSE] Alfandega and Rio Branco just down the street from Uruguiana metro.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1937710]I went to a club yesterday opposite the club 210 in rua Uruguayan, I don't know the number, I picked a skinny white girl I only paid 50 reais for 15 minutes, I don't care about the room and the infrastructure ... [/QUOTE]I've met a few cuties in that place.

Met a hot mulata the other night there, she was cool, invited her to my place last night.

She spent a couple hours with me, I gave her 150 reais.

Everybody was happy!

[QUOTE=Balboa;1938184]I've met a few cuties in that place.

Met a hot mulata the other night there, she was cool, invited her to my place last night.

She spent a couple hours with me, I gave her 150 reais.

Everybody was happy![/QUOTE]I was in the center Saturday, most clubs were empty, Saturday is not a good day to monger in the center, less girls in most clubs finally I picked a girl for 20 minutes (65 reais) in 210. I also visited three other clubs club 5 and club 3 the third one I don't remember the name, I was also in the club 13, it is as if most girls don't do complete there and are less patient as if they don't like what they do, when you talk to a girl the first word you hear, vamos subir no quarto vai ser muito gostosa (lets go to the room, it is going to be delicious) it is as if there is fire. My answer: vou pensar, te chamo quando preciso de vc (I am thinking I will call you when I need you) but I will never call her.

I will try Florida boate next week but I am not sure if they closed down.

I am asking this on behalf of an escort friend. She had been posting on hotside for some time, but its very expensive. I told her that I personally refer to rioencontro more than hotside, and it is a lot less expensive to advertise there. However, she is worried that only Brazilians look at rioencontro. So I told her I would ask this board to find out which sites the gringos look at. My question is not limited to those 2 sites, I know there are many others. Just trying to get a feel for where she should invest her advertising $.

As an aside, she is a tall statuesque mulata who speaks English, very cultured, but still a tigress in the bed. If you want her contact you can PM me.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1938625]I am asking this on behalf of an escort friend. She had been posting on hotside for some time, but its very expensive. I told her that I personally refer to rioencontro more than hotside, and it is a lot less expensive to advertise there. However, she is worried that only Brazilians look at rioencontro. So I told her I would ask this board to find out which sites the gringos look at. My question is not limited to those 2 sites, I know there are many others. Just trying to get a feel for where she should invest her advertising $.

As an aside, she is a tall statuesque mulata who speaks English, very cultured, but still a tigress in the bed. If you want her contact you can PM me.[/QUOTE]As a long term Rio resident, I've always preferred Hotside to any other site in Rio. I find the girls aren't super photoshopped and the girls rates are reasonable for a site that targets foreigners. The owner is a Kiwi who is a very decent guy so the girls get exactly what they pay for.

I've used [URL]Riosexsite.com[/URL], [URL]barravipsrio.com[/URL], and [URL]scortrio.com[/URL], and find them all less reliable than Hotside, with some totally fake ads and many with heavy application of photoshop. From a revenue perspective, I would say the girls on Hotside are able to command about are $100/ hour more than the girls on Rioencontro as the latter site does cater to more locals and the girls tend to be a little less attractive. I would say with the online advertising you probably get what you pay for. It's probably worth looking at the traffic stats for the sites listed to see which ones get the most views in a month. Actually, I just looked out of my own curiosity, and hotside gets 16 k unique views / day vs. Riosexsite which gets 12 k (the two most trafficked of the sites noted above). While I'm not sure, riosexsite probably lets girls advertise for free as it tries to sell subscriptions for exclusive content.

I would avoid [URL]amantesecia.com.br[/URL], [URL]morangovips.com.br[/URL], and any of the other predominantly Portuguese sites, as they cater to a less financially affluent clientele.

If she's looking to expand her client base without any incremental costs, she can advertise free on [URL]forumx.com.br[/URL]. It's a review board with a section for girls to post their pics, contact details, and promotions (who doesn't love a limited time offer.). I'm guessing your friend runs in the are $300-are $400/ h range, which would be at the high range of pricing for girls on the forum. However, with a few good reviews, she'll probably start to make a little more cash with minimal extra effort.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1938625]I am asking this on behalf of an escort friend. She had been posting on hotside for some time, but its very expensive. I told her that I personally refer to rioencontro more than hotside, and it is a lot less expensive to advertise there. However, she is worried that only Brazilians look at rioencontro. So I told her I would ask this board to find out which sites the gringos look at. My question is not limited to those 2 sites, I know there are many others. Just trying to get a feel for where she should invest her advertising $.
[/QUOTE]I have seen some girls who appear on many different sites at once. Some using the same name while on other sites using different names. What really drives the clicks is the "ensaio" (picture set).

I preface with this to ask: Does your friend who has been posting with HS change her photos. Ya know, freshen them up. From time to time or does she let that one set of photos ride until the wheels fall off? If it is the latter, suggest to her to switch it up a bit, give the prospective encounters a different look, appeal to the fantasy and imagination, yield to her different sides. There are sites that offer packages and some have sister sites of sort. If she has been doing it for some time and haven't quite encountered or simply know girls in the field who are advertising as well, then she hasn't done her homework. She can actually contact the different sites to get more information on the rates and duration, even inquire of free month if she agrees to "xyz" number of months, etc. She has to know at least. Let's say - 10 girls who are posting ads. I've seen girls who use the same photo set (s) for years and quite frankly it's boring and stale.

As a guy I can't say where she should invest her advertising money but I can surely say that it begins with her, her total package, her allure, her photos, her pairing with the camera, and her sessions (mannerisms, energy, and overall vibe) when she is with someone. Invest in those areas first. Invest in self. The image and package have to be ready before they can be advertised.

To touch on your RioEncentro statement though. Brasileiros are not the only ones who are looking at that site. But then again, she is in Brasil. The Brasileiros are in Brasil. That's local money, with the potential of constant money to be plenty. Word of mouth goes a long way as well. She should want to appeal to all, especially the Brasileiros who are there. They keep the local boards on fire with info. If she is as good as you say she is, then they will light up the local boards with their takes on her.

To place her money in a spot that she wants to focus on the attention of foreign patrons. She would have to wait and hope that when the "gringos" arrive, that they flock to her. That's quite risky. If her overall package is appealing to the audience, she will be just fine whether she is being sought by Brasileiro or gringo.

I think that is where she should begin. By keeping the horse in front of the cart.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1938625]So I told her I would ask this board to find out which sites the gringos look at. .[/QUOTE]I usually look at Hotside and BarraVip.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1938300]I was in the center Saturday, most clubs were empty, Saturday is not a good day to monger in the center, less girls in most clubs finally I picked a girl for 20 minutes (65 reais) in 210. I also visited three other clubs club 5 and club 3 the third one I don't remember the name, I was also in the club 13, it is as if most girls don't do complete there and are less patient as if they don't like what they do, when you talk to a girl the first word you hear, vamos subir no quarto vai ser muito gostosa (lets go to the room, it is going to be delicious) it is as if there is fire. My answer: vou pensar, te chamo quando preciso de vc (I am thinking I will call you when I need you) but I will never call her.

I will try Florida boate next week but I am not sure if they closed down.[/QUOTE]Florida is wide open Saturday just like Sub Solo is-MV30's late night sister venue. If you have 300 reais for 1 hour, Florida has girls with legs wiiiide open. Sub Solo they will try same price if not more for per noite.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1935028]1. RTTF. Yeh you have to sort through a bunch of BS posts about how the DR or Colombia is better than Brazil, or how great Help used to be (jesus! Get over it!) . But a lot of the info you have asked for is here, even if you board-search or dig up BubbaBoy's old guide.

2) I don't advise trying to find a body-to-body massage in Rio. For a nice private, try Emporio Do Banho. Get a room with a fish tank! Maybe you get a girl who actually knows how to give a massage, but I doubt it. What's a top private like Emporio charge these days, maybe BRL 180 or BRL 200 for an hour?

3) If you mean regular clubs, not a clue. If you mean brothels, basically all of them. The girls at centro termas / brothels are likely to be less jaded about foreigners, excluding 4 x4 and some of the better known ones.

4) I'd never pay as a single guy to go to a swinger's club. Best bet is to find a girl you like -- at a private -- and take her with you.

5) WTF are you doing in Centro for 7 weeks? Where are you staying? Share info!

Please report back and share your experiences.[/QUOTE]Just realized I never answered this, I apologize.

1) OK, so, let's forget about the massage. But if one can advise me where to get a good handjob until cum from a (at least) 6' girl (blowjob not even needed) in Centro, for a cheap price (like 50 RS or something), it would be pretty nice.

2) I found a really nice studio at airbnb to be on my own in Centro, thus I took it. Actually love the barrio, I am super close to a few metro stations, most things are cheap and. Contrary to some beliefs, the place is not really dangerous at all. The 'bad guys' aim the rich areas to do their shit, not a place like Centro. Have an amazing view of the Christ too Also, I am working full time through Internet, thus well, I can basically be wherever I want.

3) Thanks for all the other advice!

4) Another question. I haven't seen a lot of questions like that so I apologize if that's not to be asked but. Are there any brothels with only (or at least a lot) of travestis? I would never bring back one home from the street or any dating / escort website so.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1938755]As a long term Rio resident, I've always preferred Hotside to any other site in Rio. I find the girls aren't super photoshopped and the girls rates are reasonable for a site that targets foreigners. The owner is a Kiwi who is a very decent guy so the girls get exactly what they pay for.

I would avoid [URL]amantesecia.com.br[/URL], [URL]morangovips.com.br[/URL], and any of the other predominantly Portuguese sites, as they cater to a less financially affluent clientele.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that BackDoorD was giving advice from an escort's perspective in response to an inquiry from a friend of an escort asking which sites were best to advertise her services.

As a client, I have had good luck with [URL]www.amantesecia.com.br[/URL].

There is a lot of turnover so this is a good way to see the new girls. I have found the photos pretty accurate also. I usually call ahead and make an appointment. You will need to speak Portuguese or have someone who speaks Portuguese make the appointment for you.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1938812]Snip. 4) Another question. I haven't seen a lot of questions like that so I apologize if that's not to be asked but. Are there any brothels with only (or at least a lot) of travestis? I would never bring back one home from the street or any dating / escort website so.

Thanks![/QUOTE]You don't see a lot of questions about transvestites because it's against the forum rules to talk about them or where to find them.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1938755]As a long term Rio resident, I've always preferred Hotside to any other site in Rio. I find the girls aren't super photoshopped and the girls rates are reasonable for a site that targets foreigners. The owner is a Kiwi who is a very decent guy so the girls get exactly what they pay for.

I've used [URL]Riosexsite.com[/URL], [URL]barravipsrio.com[/URL], and [URL]scortrio.com[/URL], and find them all less reliable than Hotside, with some totally fake ads and many with heavy application of photoshop. From a revenue perspective, I would say the girls on Hotside are able to command about are $100/ hour more than the girls on Rioencontro as the latter site does cater to more locals and the girls tend to be a little less attractive. I would say with the online advertising you probably get what you pay for. It's probably worth looking at the traffic stats for the sites listed to see which ones get the most views in a month. Actually, I just looked out of my own curiosity, and hotside gets 16 k unique views / day vs. Riosexsite which gets 12 k (the two most trafficked of the sites noted above)..[/QUOTE]Thanks for thoughtful reply. Did you get those unique view traffic stats from a particular site that you can share?

I am also a Rio resident and an active user on forumx. I normally encourage any freelancer in Rio to start a linha direta on forumx. The problem, for my friend, is as you noted, that forumx culture is pretty firmly against any girl that charges more than 200 with very few exceptions. Anyone asking 300-400 is somewhat of a pariah there. Her experience there was that she received a lot of time wasting zap chatters. I personally, prefer riocencontro be / see its easy to peruse, new girls show up at the bottom of page, and they have more of my preferred type, mulata and morena. Hotside, has very little turnover of girls. I thought it was in decline from its heyday, circa 2008, but judging by your stats it still seems like king. Riosexsite is just plain frustrating unless you subscribe, which I don't. Overall, despite, or because of the crisis, the turnover in girls advertising in general is the lowest I have ever seen it. Even sites like espacoterapias and vivalocal have very very little new talent. Strange environment really. I know some girls working tinder exclusively.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1938860]Keep in mind that BackDoorD was giving advice from an escort's perspective in response to an inquiry from a friend of an escort asking which sites were best to advertise her services.

As a client, I have had good luck with [URL]www.amantesecia.com.br[/URL].

There is a lot of turnover so this is a good way to see the new girls. I have found the photos pretty accurate also. I usually call ahead and make an appointment. You will need to speak Portuguese or have someone who speaks Portuguese make the appointment for you.[/QUOTE]One caveat to the last statement. Many of the girls that advertise on the higher end sites, do speak enough English to book, particularly if they indicate English spoken. But even better is using whatsapp, which is the conversation medium of choice in Brasil for everyone. Even a tourist without any Porto should be able to arrange a meeting via whatsapp (or what's or zap in local parlance) by keeping it basic and using google translate. Truly a game changer for visitors over 5 years ago.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1938876]You don't see a lot of questions about transvestites because it's against the forum rules to talk about them or where to find them.[/QUOTE]You just have to avoid any street prostitute especially Copacabana and Lapa, if you go to the clubs or termas you are sure not to run into travesties and transsexual.

I think it is forbidden to talk about them, ex how much they cost, if they fuck well etc but if you are looking for information to avoid them it is another story.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1939086]Thanks for thoughtful reply. Did you get those unique view traffic stats from a particular site that you can share?

I am also a Rio resident and an active user on forumx. I normally encourage any freelancer in Rio to start a linha direta on forumx. The problem, for my friend, is as you noted, that forumx culture is pretty firmly against any girl that charges more than 200 with very few exceptions. Anyone asking 300-400 is somewhat of a pariah there. Her experience there was that she received a lot of time wasting zap chatters. I personally, prefer riocencontro be / see its easy to peruse, new girls show up at the bottom of page, and they have more of my preferred type, mulata and morena. Hotside, has very little turnover of girls. I thought it was in decline from its heyday, circa 2008, but judging by your stats it still seems like king. Riosexsite is just plain frustrating unless you subscribe, which I don't. Overall, despite, or because of the crisis, the turnover in girls advertising in general is the lowest I have ever seen it. Even sites like espacoterapias and vivalocal have very very little new talent. Strange environment really. I know some girls working tinder exclusively.

Cheers.[/QUOTE][URL]http://hotside.com.br.websiteoutlook.com/[/URL] These guys are pretty useful. However, simply google the full website name plus the words "traffic stats" will yield a variety of results. I personally like websiteoulook because of it's click-based site valuations (the valuation offered has nothing to do with the amount of revenue hot side generates from advertisers).

I know a few girls who've done OK using the casual encounters section of craigslist ([URL]https://alicelince.wordpress.com/sobre/[/URL]), as only foreigners tend to use. Also, the foreigners who use it tend to be between 35 and 50. Best of luck.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1938860]Keep in mind that BackDoorD was giving advice from an escort's perspective in response to an inquiry from a friend of an escort asking which sites were best to advertise her services.

As a client, I have had good luck with [URL]www.amantesecia.com.br[/URL].

There is a lot of turnover so this is a good way to see the new girls. I have found the photos pretty accurate also. I usually call ahead and make an appointment. You will need to speak Portuguese or have someone who speaks Portuguese make the appointment for you.[/QUOTE]As a monger, if you're looking for variety and good value, [URL]amantesecia.com.br[/URL] is great. New adds almost daily and it's an easy way to get a sense of which prives in Centro are worth checking out. However, most of the amantesecia girls are in the 150-250/ h range. There are some outliers, and you can certainly find some great value gems with photos that match up to reality, but the girls aren't going to be pulling in a lot of cash.

I spoke to a girl who works at Solarium recently who told me that two years ago she was pulling in 12-15 k / month in the terma, but now makes between 7 and 8 due to the lack of clientele. Not sure how this stacks up to a true freelancer, but I'm guessing it's pretty competitive if not better from an earnings perspective. The girls are getting about 300/ h (250 for 40 min, I think), and will do 2 or 3 in a shift. The drawback, I guess, is the lack of freedom as you do have to show up for work.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1939677]But now makes between 7 and 8 due to the lack of clientele. Not sure how this stacks up to a true freelancer, but I'm guessing it's pretty competitive if not better from an earnings perspective. The girls are getting about 300/ h (250 for 40 min, I think), and will do 2 or 3 in a shift. The drawback, I guess, is the lack of freedom as you do have to show up for work.[/QUOTE]BRL 8K per month is really about BRL 10.6K a month if you were working for a company, as companies deduct income tax ( 25%) and the GDPs never report their income so they don't pay tax. That is, their BRL 8K free and clear is equivalent to around a salary of BRL 10.6K. The one difference being that salaries come with mandatory items like contribution to FGTS retirement / unemployment (8%) and vacation / vacation bonus / 13th salary ... and in some companies, maybe health/dental. Then again, many BR mongers will blow their 13th salary in the termas / on the GDPs, so it's all trickle down.

BRL 10 K is the realm we pay for junior or mid level software developers, so these GDPs aren't doing half bad. Think of that next time they ask you to pay their frickin taxi LOL.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1940130]BRL 8K per month is really about BRL 10.6K a month if you were working for a company, as companies deduct income tax ( 25%) and the GDPs never report their income so they don't pay tax. That is, their BRL 8K free and clear is equivalent to around a salary of BRL 10.6K. The one difference being that salaries come with mandatory items like contribution to FGTS retirement / unemployment (8%) and vacation / vacation bonus / 13th salary ... and in some companies, maybe health/dental. Then again, many BR mongers will blow their 13th salary in the termas / on the GDPs, so it's all trickle down.

BRL 10 K is the realm we pay for junior or mid level software developers, so these GDPs aren't doing half bad. Think of that next time they ask you to pay their frickin taxi LOL.[/QUOTE]Many garotas don't make 8 k per month, I went to termas I saw many girls that did not find any client, in the terma you will always see more girls than guys, many guys don't fuck and just chill, sometimes they say they earn so much just to make us believe she is worth too much we have pay more, we are in Brazil, you find working girls in every corner, only the gringos are crazy to pay high price only for the girl, the termas are more expensive, because the facility is good, the room quality, the security, the cleanliness, the service, they have to pay taxes, the termas are for high class Brazilians, the termas in zona sul is more expensive because of the location, renting is more expensive.

I will never pay high price for a freelancer because we never know what will happen the time, the service etc, what I noticed in Brazil, paying less the service is better paying more the service is worse.

GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in privées and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The average GP in a centro privê have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.

An average decent VM-girl might have 5 clients/day. Charging R$60/session, R$5 is casa fee, she'll earn R$275/day. Roughly R$5500/month. Almost like a privê-girl, but the VM girl has to deal more with filthy clients and less comfort.

A good-looking (endangered species) Mab's girl who manages to trick gringos maybe get 1 client/day. If the gringo is stupid enough she might charge R$250. As GPs oriented to gringos are lazy she propably just work 3 days/week, meaning she'll earn roughly about R$3000/month. Less than a hardworking privê- or VM-girl.

Of course there are a lot of exceptions of GPs that gets way more clients and earn way more. The majority propably spend their money just as quick as they earn them. Support family/kids (no father), University fees, beauty salons, silicon tits/ass, clothes, phones or drugabuse.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1940286]GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in prives and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The iaverage GP in a centro priv have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.

An average decent VM-girl might have 5 clients/day. Charging R$60/session, R$5 is casa fee, she'll earn R$275/day. Roughly R$5500/month. Almost like a priv-girl, but the VM girl has to deal more with filthy clients and less comfort.

A good-looking (endangered species) Mab's girl who manages to trick gringos maybe get 1 client/day. If the gringo is stupid enough she might charge R$250. As GPs oriented to gringos are lazy she propably just work 3 days/week, meaning she'll earn roughly about R$3000/month. Less than a hardworking priv- or VM-girl.

Of course there are a lot of exceptions of GPs that gets way more clients and earn way more. The majority propably spend their money just as quick as they earn them. Support family/kids (no father), University fees, beauty salons, silicon tits/ass, clothes, phones or drugabuse.[/QUOTE]Good figures, but I have doubts that the average clinica / prive GP has 4-6 clients per day. That might apply to a few top girls but in today's market I think most do less. I have had many that I consider top girls complain that they have gone days with zero or 1 client. That is why so many move around from place to place be / see they are searching for more "movimento". I knew a girl at Delirio, one of the biggest and most active places in copa, and she said a day with 4-6 clients was only typical for the first few weeks at most when the girl is the "new attraction". After that, action drops precipitously. On top of that, the girls are constantly paying the house for things like their photos, the photo hosting fees, condoms and towels fees, and strong fines for arriving late or missing a day. Its quite hard for women with children or students to avoid these fines which degrade their earnings.

I went to 132 before going to 119, the club is very strange, only guys only 2 girls, and then in 119 (27 girls) Thursday and Friday are the best days to monger in the center, just avoid 132. New 81 opens at 2 o'clock but better to go from 5 pm because it is empty from 2 pm.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1940286]GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in prives and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The average GP in a centro priv have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.[/QUOTE]Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1940579]Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.[/QUOTE]Does your EA have to do any guy with 50 Reais on a sheet that hasn't been changed all day? There is a lot these women give up which is more valuable than money.

Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1940579]Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1940648]Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.[/QUOTE]
We're speaking about different scenes. "More girls than guys", at privées you normally don't see other clients so I guess you're speaking about termas. Terma-girls might have less business than privê-girls. Btw a privê in centro is in no way dependent of gringos with dollars. Their customers are mainly local guys working in centro.

My calculation might not have been realistic for the average privê-girl. The girls I pick are the best ones I find among roughly 40 centro-privées. Those girls have no problem getting 4-6 clients/day. They propably have better business than the average privê-girl who might only get 2-3 clients/day.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1940670]We're speaking about different scenes. [/QUOTE]You are talking about WAY different scenes since he has never been to Brazil.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1940648]Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.[/QUOTE]True, crisis,

Easy to find girls to fuck, difficult to find clients for money, in the termas many girls make zero, one, two or three clients a week, they have to share money with the terma, life is difficult in Brazil that is why many girls sell their ass to pay their bill, I met many girls complaining about the terma and wanting to leave because they live far and they are tired of travelling everyday for nothing.

Always more girls than guys, many guys just drink and watch the scene, the termas are more and more expensive, less and less guys, maybe if one day they change the price there will be more clients like in the past (gold age) if everybody continues rise the price the crisis will never disappear.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1940774]life is difficult in Brazil that is why many girls sell their ass to pay their bill,[/QUOTE]Life must be just as difficult in the USA, Germany, and other places; because many girls sell their ass to pay bills there as well. Curious as to what the men do in these countries in order to pay their bills.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1940648]Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.[/QUOTE]But you've never been to Brazil. LOL!

[QUOTE=Komo753;1940774]True, crisis,

Easy to find girls to fuck, difficult to find clients for money, in the termas many girls make zero, one, two or three clients a week, they have to share money with the terma, life is difficult in Brazil that is why many girls sell their ass to pay their bill, I met many girls complaining about the terma and wanting to leave because they live far and they are tired of travelling everyday for nothing.

Always more girls than guys, many guys just drink and watch the scene, the termas are more and more expensive, less and less guys, maybe if one day they change the price there will be more clients like in the past (gold age) if everybody continues rise the price the crisis will never disappear.[/QUOTE]This is true. Its only going one way.

Many terma girls are giving up-spoke to 5 this week. They are all hoping to build a clientele of private clients. They go independent but no doubt times are hard.

This is why when the gdps from spots like mv30 etc start asking for 400-500 per noite you got to laugh.

I have asked at least 25 how much they made off the 1 or max 2 programs they had today in the darkside spots-maybe 150. On average.
Maybe 200 on a better day..maybe more.some days just outlay on food,transport and they sulk and beg drinks off clients and just get drunk.

They can accept a lower rate or enjoy the 1 hour + train ride from Central and the bus afterwards.

The high prices in termas just keep getting tweaked but its going to hit a plateau or spots will start going out of business even more.

Even in the face of Brazilians' skewed business logic, at some point they and the gdps will face the prospect of shut down or lower prices.

Girls will try even harder to go to Spain etc as Rio is feelin the squeeze.

I mean a hot as fcuk 18 year old latina natural bombshell at Cancun's program's dropped from 15 a week to 10-ended on 2/3 and she quit.

Lets see what happens but no doubt -even the tier 2/3 spots will have girls doing cartwheels and BBFS / CIM / come inside as the crunch sets in.
I have been offered it many times in July/August and always with the line"please dont forget about me"- this is the ultimate carrot.
Come inside/bbfs for anywhere from 165-200 an hour....
Can and does happen from VM to Centro dark side spots.
Id say 50% of the girls would do it to some extent or with changing frequency based on how much they are into it,how drunk they are,how much they want the dude as outside client or just fuckin horny after some great foreplay and you turn them on.

in VM the ones who refuse CIM.BBBJ you can usually bribe for 30/40/50..an additional 50 can get you BBFS usually....come inside variable..
IN MC I used to get it offered too-"give me a present and ill let you fuck me bareback" while the fiancee is home fucking his side chick!lol
Some would try and ask 200 more,300 more..some 100....etc

Even in cheap centro termas They will try it on even more with gringos.

Regarding per noites I tell them straight-you get max 100 for 1 hour program and hardly anyone does 1 hour ones in those spots. So 200 and we good per noite. Some 150 and food and a cab-thats 250 anyway.
Sexo at night and in the morning and maybe an additional bbfs in the middle of the night..usually the easiest time.

Places like MC, Solarium etc are all thinking of how to approach the crisis now that theres no event to attract attention on the horizon other than currency devaluation and increased unemployment and less tourists as crime rates increase.
Spoke to Ivan and they are turning away lots of chicks who come from other spots and the turn-over is quicker than in the past except for die-hards because new girls get in and realize they arent gonna get paid and they have to pay for stuff.......
I think Non-Pro with privileges and a bit of help is the new semi-pro!
I think the dating sites will have alot more of these.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1940693]You are talking about WAY different scenes since he has never been to Brazil.[/QUOTE]
Stll he´s an expert on the Rio scene. :)

There are some bareback propaganda posted in this thread.
Here's an interesting article. 10% of the brazilian women with HIV are prostitutes. HIV among prostitutes is eight times higher than among the general population. 6% of the prostitutes are infected with HIV, compared to 0,56% of the rest of the population. At least 660'000 cases of HIV in Brazil.
I can't understand how anyone would even consider to accept bareback sex with a prostitute in Brazil. If she offers BB sex to you she propably does it to everybody else as well. If she even cares to do her yearly HIV test she'll propably continue to work even if she's infected. I'm happy with using condoms. I prefer a long healthy life with lots of safe sex instead of having BB adventures with VM prostitutes.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/saude/de-cada-dez-mulheres-com-hiv-uma-e-prostituta-10062013[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1941170]Stll hes an expert on the Rio scene. :)

There are some bareback propaganda posted in this thread.
Here's an interesting article. 10% of the brazilian women with HIV are prostitutes. HIV among prostitutes is eight times higher than among the general population. 6% of the prostitutes are infected with HIV, compared to 0,56% of the rest of the population. At least 660'000 cases of HIV in Brazil.
I can't understand how anyone would even consider to accept bareback sex with a prostitute in Brazil. If she offers BB sex to you she propably does it to everybody else as well. If she even cares to do her yearly HIV test she'll propably continue to work even if she's infected. I'm happy with using condoms. I prefer a long healthy life with lots of safe sex instead of having BB adventures with VM prostitutes.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/saude/de-cada-dez-mulheres-com-hiv-uma-e-prostituta-10062013[/URL][/QUOTE]So Sperto the safe sex instructor is back with words of wisdom about BBFS / HIV / STDs?

Arent you the man talking about having CIM / BBBJs etc in your posts?- so that would qualify you as a risk taker. Not so (E) sperto.

Regarding propaganda-it said offered not necessarily taken.

Everyone here takes risks in smaller or bigger ways.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1941170]Stll hes an expert on the Rio scene. :)

There are some bareback propaganda posted in this thread.
Here's an interesting article. 10% of the brazilian women with HIV are prostitutes. HIV among prostitutes is eight times higher than among the general population. 6% of the prostitutes are infected with HIV, compared to 0,56% of the rest of the population. At least 660'000 cases of HIV in Brazil.
I can't understand how anyone would even consider to accept bareback sex with a prostitute in Brazil. If she offers BB sex to you she propably does it to everybody else as well. If she even cares to do her yearly HIV test she'll propably continue to work even if she's infected. I'm happy with using condoms. I prefer a long healthy life with lots of safe sex instead of having BB adventures with VM prostitutes.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/saude/de-cada-dez-mulheres-com-hiv-uma-e-prostituta-10062013[/URL][/QUOTE]You know everything about HIV, I work in the laboratory I test blood everyday when I'm not on vacation I studied for medicine 8 years + 2 year experience, 1, it is impossible to get HIV with blow job without condom, the worst thing you can get is Herpes as a man, the worst thing you can get as a woman is syphilis, in Brazil gay community are more likely to get HIV, 90 per cent of the immune system is in the colon (big intestine) passive sex, using drug and antibiotic kills your immune system. Straight vaginal sex, you need to fuck with the seropositive partner many times before getting HIV, HIV is very weak compared to other sexual diseases, your immune system has three months to eliminate HIV after sex act if not protected.

Being scared of everything is bad for your body too, you can have cancer because of that.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1941388]... it is impossible to get HIV with blow job without condom, the worst thing you can get is Herpes as a man...[/QUOTE]
Are you illiterate? Did I say something about getting HIV by BBBJ? No, it was Mr B***head.
I don't care if you bareback. My post was to enlighten those who might get the impression that barebacking in Brazil is OK.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1941436]Are you illiterate? Did I say something about getting HIV by BBBJ? No, it was Mr B***head.
I don't care if you bareback. My post was to enlighten those who might get the impression that barebacking in Brazil is OK.[/QUOTE]I agree people doing bareback sex are more likely to get HIV, I am talking about girls and passive gays and transexuals. But active men are less likely to get HIV if they do bareback without condom and for sure they will never get HIV if they use condom everyday. Being protected is important because there are many sexual diseases that are stronger than HIV and having another sexual disease makes HIV easy to enter the body.

Many gays and girls complain about having HIV though they had protected sex everyday why? Getting fucked from behind kills your immune system in your colon / rectum. That is why it is important to eat much and drink water, to move as much as possible to boost your immune system, and not use drug or any antibiotics.

Conclusion: it is important to get protected from other sexual diseases.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1941032]This is true. Its only going one way.

Many terma girls are giving up-spoke to 5 this week. They are all hoping to build a clientele of private clients. They go independent but no doubt times are hard.

This is why when the gdps from spots like mv30 etc start asking for 400-500 per noite you got to laugh.

I have asked at least 25 how much they made off the 1 or max 2 programs they had today in the darkside spots-maybe 150. On average.
Maybe 200 on a better day..maybe more.some days just outlay on food,transport and they sulk and beg drinks off clients and just get drunk.

They can accept a lower rate or enjoy the 1 hour + train ride from Central and the bus afterwards.

The high prices in termas just keep getting tweaked but its going to hit a plateau or spots will start going out of business even more.

Even in the face of Brazilians' skewed business logic, at some point they and the gdps will face the prospect of shut down or lower prices.

Girls will try even harder to go to Spain etc as Rio is feelin the squeeze...[/QUOTE]In the center, a girl tried 800 reais per noite with me just because I am a gringo, but finally she agreed for 200 reais per noite of course I paid after because I never pay beforehand.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1941032]Lets see what happens but no doubt -even the tier 2/3 spots will have girls doing cartwheels and BBFS / CIM / come inside as the crunch sets in.
I have been offered it many times in July/August and always with the line"please dont forget about me"- this is the ultimate carrot.
Come inside/bbfs for anywhere from 165-200 an hour....
Can and does happen from VM to Centro dark side spots.
Id say 50% of the girls would do it to some extent or with changing frequency based on how much they are into it,how drunk they are,how much they want the dude as outside client or just fuckin horny after some great foreplay and you turn them on.

in VM the ones who refuse CIM.BBBJ you can usually bribe for 30/40/50..an additional 50 can get you BBFS usually....come inside variable..
IN MC I used to get it offered too-"give me a present and ill let you fuck me bareback" while the fiancee is home fucking his side chick!lol
Some would try and ask 200 more,300 more..some 100....etc..[/QUOTE]Where are those girls I have never met? LOL.

Have done BBFS with a few though, two from trash fucks and one from a terma.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;1941694]Where are those girls I have never met? LOL.

Have done BBFS with a few though, two from trash fucks and one from a terma.[/QUOTE]Where are those girls?

Those girls I have met in Monte Carlo, VM,Cancun and centro darkside spots like mv. Florida.

Its all about you and the girl.

A few have offered outright, mostly they just do it if they want to do it.

We've all been guilty of it I suspect.

More so I guess when you get them outside of the terma its more frequently given / accepted for sure.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1941566]In the center, a girl tried 800 reais per noite with me just because I am a gringo, but finally she agreed for 200 reais per noite of course I paid after because I never pay beforehand.[/QUOTE]800? What a fuckin nerve.

You did the right thing and if they don't want to accept it let them sweat. When they are faced with the prospect of going home with 0 from 0 programs, they will be more flexible but we must be prepared to let even a sexy one go to stick to the principle. If not they will run all over us.

I'm not paying over the odds for anyone again. It has happened to everyone visitng Rio.

ID say if she diggin you 200 + food / drinks transport is the way nowadays.

If not let them go.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1942223]Where are those girls?

Those girls I have met in Monte Carlo, VM,Cancun and centro darkside spots like mv. Florida.

Its all about you and the girl.

A few have offered outright, mostly they just do it if they want to do it.

We've all been guilty of it I suspect.

More so I guess when you get them outside of the terma its more frequently given / accepted for sure.[/QUOTE]Just curious, do you you have any concerns about impregnating these girls? A shocking number of them do not use birth control.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1942223]Where are those girls?

Those girls I have met in Monte Carlo, VM,Cancun and centro darkside spots like mv. Florida.

Its all about you and the girl.

A few have offered outright, mostly they just do it if they want to do it.

We've all been guilty of it I suspect.

More so I guess when you get them outside of the terma its more frequently given / accepted for sure.[/QUOTE]What is the best day for Florida? I know it is closed Sunday? Which day there are more girls? The price is 120 reais 30 minutes and 240 reais 1 hour but I didn't do programa, I was there Monday but it was a bit empty.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1942250]Just curious, do you you have any concerns about impregnating these girls? A shocking number of them do not use birth control.[/QUOTE]Could we please keep questions like this to PMs? And also all the STD stuff? The focus of this board is supposed to be about actionable info to help people get laid in Rio. How they decide to do it and what risks they decide to take -- or their opinions on risks other people decide to take -- are not germane. Please discuss to your heart's content via PMs or even on main Brazil section threads like "Safe Sex in Rio" or even "General Info" rather than here.

Thanks.

-Cartman.

I decided to try and get to know what some of the action looks like in this suburb. No excuses now that metro line is now open. You take Orange Line until Gen. Osorio (Ipanema) and switch to Yellow Line until Jardim Oceanico (Barra) probably 20 minutes from Siqueira Campos or Cantago in Copa. When you exit the metro there is a huge avenue called Armando Lombardi to get to building 800 you have to take the pedestrian sky bridge with a bus station and voila you are there. Being 6'3" I have huge fear of heights go figure but had to focus on the mission at hand. 5 minute walk. I chose this building first because according ForumX, GPGuia and EspacoTerapias there were more than one sex offices in the building.

Note: when you enter the lobby of the office building you must register at the desk. Do not forget to bring ID fortunately I had my US drivers license. Once you check in and are in the system you can take stairs or elevator up. First up was Euro Rio Spa since I new the profiles well from the website. Luana an older but very attractive manager answered the door and explained how the prive works. Facilities were exceptional was one of those tactic massage themes. Most of the girls work by reservation / advance appointments since clients are mainly married men. So of the 4 that were there at 12:30 pm only 1 was available the others were waiting on confirmed appointments.

Okay so on to the program itself, I got to meet Natasha chatted a bit and since I was clearly attracted to her I pulled the trigger. Overall a good session not great but I would repeat. Enjoyed the titty f*ck on the big natural breasts. She came at least twice but was kind of mechanical as I did most of the work. Made an excuse that she was not allowed to scream bc it was a professional office space LOL. So after the program Luana came back and asked me about the service I said I was content but would like to see other girls in person if they were now available. So she arranged that and Perola entered really amazing specimen and then Luana herself came back in and said she works. All in all Euro was not bad the online profiles match the 3 women I was able to see in person so that is a god sign. Just remember to book.

Prive Euro Barra (Barra the Tijuca. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 / are $ 200,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 3795-09762 - (21) 9792-52359 Sala 303.

[URL]http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br/index.php/equipe[/URL]

Headed downstairs to Wind Therapy asked the very cute receptionist Geovana who answered the door if this was just a massage spot and she said no it was sex. The presentation consisted of 5 ladies and I would have only gone with 2 (Dandara and Raquel) but we all have different tastes. Nice facilities.

WIND THERAPY. RUA ARMANDO LOMBARDI 800 / SALA 215 - 3298-2223/9-7261-2345 are $250/ hour.

The receptionist at Wind Therapy advised me that Barra Secret no longer existed in the building. So I crossed this address off the list.

PRIVE BARRA SECRET AV ARMANDO LOMBARD ,800 CONDADO DE CASCAIS 3226 -1050 / are $ 230,00 - Telefone: (32) 2610-50.

[URL]http://amantesecia.com.br/windbarra/[/URL]

I then took a five minute taxi ride are $13 to Barra Private. The line up was pretty disappointing of the 5 that were available only one was doable the gorgeous Flavia Barra who I had actually test drove back in 2014 at Termas 65. I decided not to partake not sure if it was because of the day or time (2:30 pm) but I did not see some of the stunners that are on the website.

Barra Private Av das Américas 2300 BL be 221/328 Barra. Ed. Blue Sky. Them frente ao Shopping Barra Garden are $200/ hour.

[URL]http://www.barraprivate.com.br/pinterest_equipe.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;1943045]I decided to try and get to know what some of the action looks like in this suburb...[/QUOTE]
This must be the first privê-report from Barra. Thanks a lot! The metro to Barra will help a lot to check out this "new scene".

[QUOTE=Sperto;1943232]This must be the first priv-report from Barra. Thanks a lot! The metro to Barra will help a lot to check out this "new scene".[/QUOTE]In all of my trips to Rio, I've been to Barra only once! Here's the write-up I did on that experience from way back when if anybody is interested (was part of a much larger trip report that can be found in the ROD):

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I look upon Barra as "fertile ground" that's just waiting to be explored and exploited!

[QUOTE=Komo753;1942251]What is the best day for Florida? I know it is closed Sunday? Which day there are more girls? The price is 120 reais 30 minutes and 240 reais 1 hour but I didn't do programa, I was there Monday but it was a bit empty.[/QUOTE]Florida Bar is a late spot. Getting there at 12 am or 1 am works best.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1943699]Florida Bar is a late spot. Getting there at 12 am or 1 am works best.[/QUOTE]Florida was 300 an hour when I was there July / August. Where did you get these lower prices from or maybe they dropped them post-olympics but that's the first time I've ever heard of a price drop at Rio boate.

12 am /1 am or later is also good-2/3 am. Any day but Sunday / Monday-Monday is gay night. Saturday is unique because in Centro there are limited options on saturdays. They do exist but are limited to Afterhours boates and Uruguyana spots.

What a shame, Boate Flórida is history. Just like Help, Boate Flórida started like a regular club (in 1969) and then turned into a place for prostitution. During several decades Boate Flórida was the best strip-club in Rio. When there were foreign ships in the port, Flórida was full of girls and foreign sailors. In the nineties there used to be non-stop fully nude strip-shows and even sex-live-shows. The girls hold a very high standard. You could session with the girls in the cabins or bring them to Hotel Puma next door. It wasn't unusual that you could bring girls back to your apartment for free. The whole Praça Mauá area was rocking. Boate Flórida, Scandinavia Bar and Filipino bar all had hords of GPs.

Later the Praça Mauá area changed. Filipino bar turned into a small bar and soon got closed down. Boate Flórida survived but lost it's success. No more fully nude strip shows, only topless, and much less girls and clients. When Praça Mauá got reformed, and Museu do Amanhã opened, Boate Flórida got even worse.

Boate Flórida reopened 2 of September as a regular club. (All you Help-dreamers, it will not be a new Help. It's a small club.) The new club will have different themes every day, Rock, hip hop, funk and electronic music.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/09/tradicional-casa-de-prostituicao-na-praca-maua-rio-reabre-como-boate.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1943858]What a shame, Boate Flrida is history. Just like Help, Boate Flrida started like a regular club (in 1969) and then turned into a place for prostitution. During several decades Boate Flrida was the best strip-club in Rio. When there were foreign ships in the port, Flrida was full of girls and foreign sailors. In the nineties there used to be non-stop fully nude strip-shows and even sex-live-shows. The girls hold a very high standard. You could session with the girls in the cabins or bring them to Hotel Puma next door. It wasn't unusual that you could bring girls back to your apartment for free. The whole Praa Mau area was rocking. Boate Flrida, Scandinavia Bar and Filipino bar all had hords of GPs.

Later the Praa Mau area changed. Filipino bar turned into a small bar and soon got closed down. Boate Flrida survived but lost it's success. No more fully nude strip shows, only topless, and much less girls and clients. When Praa Mau got reformed, and Museu do Amanh opened, Boate Flrida got even worse.

Boate Flrida reopened 2 of September as a regular club. (All you Help-dreamers, it will not be a new Help. It's a small club.) The new club will have different themes every day, Rock, hip hop, funk and electronic music.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/09/tradicional-casa-de-prostituicao-na-praca-maua-rio-reabre-como-boate.html[/URL][/QUOTE]This kind of sucks. It was a good place to go after hours when all the other spots closed for the day. Now its just a regular club. I will check it out in November.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1943974]This kind of sucks. It was a good place to go after hours when all the other spots closed for the day. Now its just a regular club. I will check it out in November.[/QUOTE]Florida Bar has been shit for years.

Occasionally I found a diamond-all in all I found 2 good ones in there in maybe 50 visits. Not stunners but very decent with good CIM I had 2 duds but in general girls in there had good attitudes. Passionate. Last couple of times I went during Olympics were very poor standard but in line with the gentrification of Praca Maua it makes sense with the change.

Convenient after-hours spot?-yes.

To be honest none of the after-hours spots in Centro have stunners.

Theyve all been taken by then.

Including Americas, Sub-Solo and ex -Florida.

I don't know K Club in Copa. Maybe that attracts more.

Mosaico sometimes have some but I haven't liked alot of the girls' attitude in there.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;1943699]Florida Bar is a late spot. Getting there at 12 am or 1 am works best.[/QUOTE]There will be a bingo from Monday in Florida boate, you can win 20 minutes free with a girl if you are selected, I went to Florida 2 days ago, it was a bit empty, there are still sailors but we have to know the right day when they come, there is another night club (sub night) in rua branco it is like Barbarella but it is cheaper (30 reais 3 drinks entrance) you don't pay if you take the girl out you have to negotiate the price with the girl (normal price: 150 reais one hour 250 reais night) this place is more frequented by Brazilians, better to go from 12 AM.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1943990]Florida Bar has been shit for years.

Occasionally I found a diamond-all in all I found 2 good ones in there in maybe 50 visits. Not stunners but very decent with good CIM I had 2 duds but in general girls in there had good attitudes. Passionate. Last couple of times I went during Olympics were very poor standard but in line with the gentrification of Praca Maua it makes sense with the change.

Convenient after-hours spot?-yes.

To be honest none of the after-hours spots in Centro have stunners.

Theyve all been taken by then.

Including Americas, Sub-Solo and ex -Florida.

I don't know K Club in Copa. Maybe that attracts more.

Mosaico sometimes have some but I haven't liked alot of the girls' attitude in there.[/QUOTE]Florida Bar to me, was something to do if you are still in Centro late night. The girls were ok. The ones I had fucked me good. No stunners, but a few nice big booties.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1944036]There will be a bingo from Monday in Florida boate, you can win 20 minutes free with a girl if you are selected, I went to Florida 2 days ago, it was a bit empty, there are still sailors but we have to know the right day when they come, there is another night club (sub night) in rua branco it is like Barbarella but it is cheaper (30 reais 3 drinks entrance) you don't pay if you take the girl out you have to negotiate the price with the girl (normal price: 150 reais one hour 250 reais night) this place is more frequented by Brazilians, better to go from 12 AM.[/QUOTE]Thats Rio Branco you mean?

Sub Solo you mean?

If that's the case, price is variable and by no means what you stated. Good guideline price though and yes its really only cariocas. And us.

Unfortunately this trip I am only working with a week's worth of vacation. I decided to do some recon for another trip planned this year keeping in mind that these places are in a constant state of flux. Hope this report is helpful. Information is available on Forumx, GParena and GPGuia.

I started off with Building 156.

Julia massagem office number 1323 is wrong it is a legit business I apologized to the guy who answered the door and continued on.

Julia Massagens (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sala 1323) / are $ 170,00 - Telefone: (21) 3176-0106 - (21) 9968-51888.

Centro star.

There were 4 girls in the presentation and Milena is the manager. Overall a weak line up I recognized an ex Delirio girl in there. These girls are transient.

Centro Star / ex-Centro Thai (Centro. Ed. Avenida Central. Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sala 2622) / are $ 140,00 - Telefone: (21) 2210-2883.

Dudas.

Has always been a pretty reliable and consistent spot. There were only 3 girls presented at the time 2 noteworthy. Evelyn blond kissed me in the mouth right away and Melissa a very cute frizzy hair all natural mulata!

Duda Massagens / Rio Centro (Centro. Ed. Avenida Central. Av. Rio Branco, 156 - sala 3320) / are $ 160,00 - 60 Min. Telefone: (21) 2517-1656.

[URL]http://www.dudasmassagem.com[/URL]

I did not see anything to make me pull the trigger so I headed across the street to Rio Branco 185.

185 Rio Branco is a pain with all the levels and elevators that only go to certain floors and what's worse is they are manned by some guy who just pushes buttons all day, so if anyone has figured out navigating this monster or has a strategy please share. After queuing up for one particular elevator I headed up and back down a couple of times. Here is a quick summary.

13th floor.

Dany's.

Not very good average girls. Website is deceiving.

Dany Massagem (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 1308) / are $ 150,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 2533-7582 - (21) 9717-69740.

[URL]http://www.danymassagem.com[/URL]

Centro Suzy.

Nobody answered welcome floor mat was against the door. Later realized that meant may be closed. Pity this looked promising based on the website.

CENTRO SUSY. AVENIDA RIO BRANCO 185 / SALA 1327 - 2215-1960.

[URL]http://centrosusy.com.br[/URL]

7th floor.

Bellas 725 has some gems.

Pollyanna blond nice.

Nanda blond nice.

Lara morena tall nice.

Bellas Massagens (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 725) / are $ 140,00 - Telefone: (21) 2215-4199 - (99) 5925-631.

7th floor.

Arte Office #718 appeared to be closed welcome floor mat against the door again.

RTE TERAPIA. AVENIDA RIO BRANCO 185 / SALA 718 - 2224-9800/9-8684-1798/9-6864-4957.

21st floor.

Bel Prazer excellent many good looking girls.

Bel Prazer (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185/2114) / are $ 150,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 2517-0879.

[URL]http://www.belprazer.com[/URL]

Ônix not very good 5-6 girls.

Onix Terapias (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2104) / are $ 170,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 3173-3800 - (21) 9968-51888.

[URL]http://www.onixterapias.com[/URL]

17th floor.

Angels was weak and not very good 5-6 good. Website is deceiving.

Angel's Massagens (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 1708) / are $ 140,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 3040-4582 - (21) 2524-4388.

[URL]http://angelmassagem.com/index.php[/URL]

Anita's.

Manuela answered door. I have heard rumors about a Kelly here so I decided to check it out. Line up was very good:

Michelle nice.

Bombom nice.

Still I did not feel like pulling the trigger I asked if the Kelly of fame was available and Manuela responded she no longer works in the casa and it's been months since she left. Later found out she lied to my face, as there was a report on Kelly on Forumx the day before.

Annita Massagens (Centro. Av. Rio Branco, 185, sl. 1722) / are $ 90,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 2544-6189 - (21) 9973-97307.

In summary that is why these prives / clinicas are hit or miss. Obviously the prices are great but there are also a lot of cons for instance you have to do a lot of legwork, wait for elevators, wait for girls availability, cannot really chat up girls to get to know them and also deal with fickle girls, the*ck discrimination or prejudice LOL. I actually chatted with one of the girls at Delirio / VIP today about my experiences and she said yes when the girls saw me coming they ran and start praying they would not be selected or just don't go out for the presentation and she would not be surprised if that was what happened on my run. She said that their logic is they earn so little compared to a Termas girl that it may not be worth taking a throttling and then potentially not be able to work and earn more. Ironically Brazilian business logic that makes sense, instead of the "fast dollar over the steady dime", a practice that the GDPs and Termas typically exercise. In retrospect I remember times when after I selected a girl in either Delirio or Eden (Copa) she either did not show up or took forever to come to the room. Anyway point noted.

This report does not include Solarium, Centaurus (I refuse) or MV30. I went to Monte Carlo 3 nights, Novo Aeroporto on 2 occasions, Cancun once and Quatro por Quatro twice.

Monte Carlo.

This place is still dear to me as MC, 4 x4 and Luomo got me addicted to Rio. I started after coming regularly just after Help closed so missed that period. Anyway the quality and quantity definitely went down since June / July before the Olympics. Still managed to have a good time but the prices are hard to swallow even for 40 minutes. I sucked it up because I am on vacation and pretty soon I will have some lonely cold nights in Connecticut. There were some really great performances a "dupla" with Imola and Luna and a "luta" with Amanda. A few other nice ones for example Mia (great tits not enough ass) that I would have loved to test drive but was not meant to be this trip.

Cancun.

I was a bit disappointed the problem is you do not get to see the full picture because some of the girls either stay in the whisky lounge and seldomly come upstairs to the main "boate". I have read here there is a bit of confusion about the prices so I had the cashier right it down. It is basically 70 for consumption and either 310 (40 minutes) or 330 (1 HR) or total 400. Anyway I was in the mood for a mature sure thing so I went with Bombom deep chocolate veteran been probably on the scene for 18 years but is in great shape (bomba helps).

Quatro por Quatro.

Not much has changed here thank god they have been reasonable with maintaining prices. What has changed is there are a lot of new faces. Some of my faves were forced to leave due to weight gain or age so I had to look to a new crop. Fortunately I ran into Isis (formerly Bombom and Beatriz in Monte Carlo). It was thick chick Tuesday and she is a legit 6 feet without high heels and now very fit (bomba helps). Been a couple of years since I saw her and I remember first trying her out when she was 21 in MC and now she is 27 and all grown up. Session was great of course 4 x4 rarely disappoints. I tried a blond Grazi there too who is also very good. I did set up take out with a couple (Mirela and Lavinia) at the LoveTime Motel in Gloria. I highly recommend it has everything, disco lights, stripper pole, ceiling and wall mirrors, hot tub etc.

Termas Aeroporto.

So I finally got around to this place and I must say it was worth it. The whole place newly renovated so from the bar, boate, rooms and facilities there was no disappointment definitely felt upscale and more sophisticated. There seems to be promotions every day and I have attached that info below. There are about 30 girls on Wednesday their best day (out of town business men frequent this establishment). I went there Friday and there were probably 20 girls and very little customers. Best way to get there is take metro to Cinelandia stop and either take VLT (light rail) on Rio Branco to Antonio Carlo stop and walk the rest or alternatively take a cab.

Got sick / fever from walking in the rain yesterday. I wanted to stay home, order in, and get a sure thing.

Messaged her while I was at the gym and arranged an afternoon session. Sessioned with her
and her amiga back in 2010 and always enjoyed her company and perfomance.

She arrived abit late but had travelled for 1. 5 hours. She's deffinatley the MILF now. Ass has grown.
Within 20 minutes it was balls deep in all 3 holes.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944127]This report does not include Solarium, Centaurus (I refuse) or MV30. I went to Monte Carlo 3 nights, Novo Aeroporto on 2 occasions, Cancun once and Quatro por Quatro twice. I went there Friday and there were probably 20 girls and very little customers. Best way to get there is take metro to Cinelandia stop and either take VLT (light rail) on Rio Branco to Antonio Carlo stop and walk the rest or alternatively take a cab.[/QUOTE]Great reporting, Safado69! Keep up the good work. Great to see some updated intel. Especially about Aeorporto. I've not made it there yet. Typically the mid-tier Centro terma "movimento" (busy days) as you note will be Tues-Thurdsay, with Mondays slow due to most people being slammed with work, and Fridays slow because most of the married dudes have to go home to their families for "weekend time. ".

One thing I would add: Uber is very easy to use in Centro, Zona Sul, and I think (not sure) Barra these days. It's so cheap (Uber X) that people really should consider it, especially for Centro T's at night in areas that are somewhat secluded or you don't know well (like the area around Aeroporto). They even have an Uber English option if you're that bad at Portuguese LOL. Uber Black is a steal compared to other countries, as well. Granted you don't get a Mercedes or BMW like you do in say MX or Thailand, thanks to Brazil's crazy car prices, but it's a step up from Uber X. That said, Uber X cars are reasonable and so cheap compared to Taxis these days I suggest every vistor add them to your transport options for Centro T's and even farther-away places like Solarium.

I'm actually toying with the idea of taking the new metro to Barra and then hopping an Uber to Paris Cafe one day to check it out.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944096]Snip. In summary that is why these prives / clinicas are hit or miss. Obviously the prices are great but there are also a lot of cons for instance you have to do a lot of legwork, wait for elevators, wait for girls availability, cannot really chat up girls to get to know them and also deal with fickle girls, the*ck discrimination or prejudice LOL. I actually chatted with one of the girls at Delirio / VIP today about my experiences and she said yes when the girls saw me coming they ran and start praying they would not be selected or just don't go out for the presentation and she would not be surprised if that was what happened on my run. She said that their logic is they earn so little compared to a Termas girl that it may not be worth taking a throttling and then potentially not be able to work and earn more. Ironically Brazilian business logic that makes sense, instead of the "fast dollar over the steady dime", a practice that the GDPs and Termas typically exercise. In retrospect I remember times when after I selected a girl in either Delirio or Eden (Copa) she either did not show up or took forever to come to the room. Anyway point noted.[/QUOTE]What about you scares the girls?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1944190]What about you scares the girls?[/QUOTE]Good question. And besides that, you are there to fuck them, not get to know them. If you want to get to know somebody then get a girlfriend. The girls are probably like do you want this pussy or do you just want to waste my time talking. They know what they are there for. Do you?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1944190]What about you scares the girls?[/QUOTE]Certainly apprehensive. Could be height, build, ethnicity and nationality. On the exterior 6'3', 240 well built, baby face for age. The perceived "mandingo / negao" stereotypical attributes are beyond my control don't care to go into details this forum is about getting laid in Rio not men's looks / endowment.

Mr Enternational you are jumping to conclusions and assumptions so I respectfully ask that you re-read that post again. Where in that post did I say I am sitting there talking to the girls during the presentation in the "prives" and clinicas? Anyway really not important on to more important topics. Thanks for the lecture.

Regards.

Copa Prives update.

Really narrowed it down to 4 establishments that I wanted to visit based on past experience.

Delirio Oriental Spa.

This was my go to spot in the late mornings during my April and July trip this year, but this time around I did not have much luck. Either I was early, or the manager was saying such and such is now on vacation. The most the line up amounted to were 6 girls, which is strange because there were at least 20 girls on the site.

Fortunately I had the numbers of some of the girls that left and now run their own gig from some apartments right around the corner. Andressa ex Delirio now at 18 Siqueira Campos Apt 201 (200/ HR). Really nice girl 29 years old but looks like 20. Great performer she is not Asian but from Paraiba (*spelling? Says she is mistaken for Japanese all the time but has no Asian blood. Very enterprising girl she has another former Delirio girl she shares the apartment with.

Delírio Oriental (Copacabana. Rua Hilário de Gouveia, andº 66, sala 207) / are $ 250,00 credit card- Telefone: (21) 3837-8085.

Eden Spa.

I went twice to this apartment on a Monday and Wednesday around 11 am and 1 pm. They have really fallen off in my opinion.

Eden Spa (Copacabana. Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 583 - sala 401) / are $ 200,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 3627-3130 - (21) 2545-7664.

[URL]http://edenspa.com.br[/URL]

Seven Beach (Formerly Rio Centro Spa).

I went to the location and saw the sign on the door, which read closed. I ask the doorman and he said it was now gone. Confirmed this with the receptionist at Eden Spa, which is / was their affiliate. Did not last more than 3 months must be high Copa rents.

Seven Beach Rua Siqueira Campos, 12 Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ.

[URL]http://www.sevenbeach.com.br[/URL]

Lotus Spa.

I went there on Monday arrived a bit early and never got around to seeing the goods in person.

Lotus Therapy (Copacabana. Are. Siqueira Campos 43 - sala 825) Tel: 3936-3850 / are $ 200,00 - 1 Hrs. Telefone: (21) 3936-3850.

[URL]http://www.lotustherapy.com.br/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944096]185 Rio Branco is a pain with all the levels and elevators that only go to certain floors and what's worse is they are manned by some guy who just pushes buttons all day, so if anyone has figured out navigating this monster or has a strategy please share. After queuing up for one particular elevator I headed up and back down a couple of times.[/QUOTE]
Great, informative report.
There is one easy way to navigate the big GP-buildings, like RB185, RB156 and Av Treze de Maio 33. Take the elevator up to the top floor and run down the stairs checking out the salas. The elevator guys at RB185 are a great source of information. They know all the sala numbers with privées, how many girls that works at each privê and the quality of the girls. Several times they have advised me when there arrived new girls.

Hi Rodeo9112,

Again congratulations for your Rio report.

Please can you free your box for private messages; it's urgent.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1935062]Wow! Thanks for all the kudos on the report. I actually thought it was a bit sub-par compared to some other, more detailed and humorous, alcohol-inspired reports I've written for Rio, Bogota, Panama City, and DR. Glad to see I haven't lost it after 6 years since my last report. Next one will be after my DR trip in early October. I'm going to do a lot of damage with $1,000 in 5 days and a villa with a pool in Sosua![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944243]Mr Enternational you are jumping to conclusions and assumptions so I respectfully ask that you re-read that post again. Where in that post did I say I am sitting there talking to the girls during the presentation in the "prives" and clinicas?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Safado69;1944096]In summary that is why these prives / clinicas are hit or miss. Obviously the prices are great but there are also a lot of cons for instance you have to do a lot of legwork, wait for elevators, wait for girls availability, [b]cannot really chat up girls to get to know them[/b][/QUOTE]Since you listed not being able to chat them up to get to know them as a con, I took it as that is what you would like to do. I think many guys go get hookers because they don't have to worry about getting to know them (or at least that is what I gather from reading ISG). Sorry if my interpretation was off. Great reports as always.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944096]In summary that is why these prives / clinicas are hit or miss. Obviously the prices are great but there are also a lot of cons for instance you have to do a lot of legwork, wait for elevators, wait for girls availability, cannot really chat up girls to get to know them.[/QUOTE]This is precisely a part of the reason why I was not won over by the clinicas in Sao Paulo. I have not been to a prive in Rio, but my expectation is that it would be pretty much the same thing. Although, and maybe I'm wrong, I have a feeling that the GDPs at the prives of Rio might be a little better looking overall than those working at the clinicas in Sao Paulo? I don't know. Maybe somebody who has frequented both can weigh in here? My finding was that if I could identify at least one 7 at a clinica according to my tastes, then that was doing good!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1944436]Since you listed not being able to chat them up to get to know them as a con, I took it as that is what you would like to do. I think many guys go get hookers because they don't have to worry about getting to know them (or at least that is what I gather from reading ISG). Sorry if my interpretation was off. Great reports as always.[/QUOTE]Watching and conversing with the girl (with your traductor, your hands or your Portuguese), dancing, touching before fucking is important (Psychology) because you know how the girl acts, when the girl is too fast we know the sex will be bad because she is too mechanic, some people get hookers because they want to fuck different girls and do things they can't do to their wife / GF or they have some phantasms or because they can not or don't have time to pick girls in the night club, or they are too old to come on to girls and still need GF experience.

Since I came to Rio, I 'e never had any trouble with any girl just because I always converse before fucking. When the girl is too fast, I send her packing, in the past I picked some girls without conversing it was often miss.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1944082]Thats Rio Branco you mean?

Sub Solo you mean?

If that's the case, price is variable and by no means what you stated. Good guideline price though and yes its really only cariocas. And us.[/QUOTE]No the club is Sun Night 14 , it is in av Rio Branco. You have to negotiate with the girl in the club, the price is just informative (average price) all depends on the girl and the guy, how good you are at negotiation. Most girls I talked to told me this price (4 girls) and another one told me another price.

Where is Sub SOLO? Is it in the same street?

[QUOTE=Safado69;1944243]Certainly apprehensive. Could be height, build, ethnicity and nationality. On the exterior 6'3', 240 well built, baby face for age. The perceived "mandingo / negao" stereotypical attributes are beyond my control don't care to go into details this forum is about getting laid in Rio not men's looks / endowment.

Mr Enternational you are jumping to conclusions and assumptions so I respectfully ask that you re-read that post again. Where in that post did I say I am sitting there talking to the girls during the presentation in the "prives" and clinicas? Anyway really not important on to more important topics. Thanks for the lecture.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Wow, I never got that feeling when I went to any prives. I'm African American, 6 feet about 250 lbs.

Alot of Brazilian think I'm a boxer or play American football. I always thought brazilian females like a good fuck.

I'm going to Brazil on Oct. 23rd. Going to pay closer attention.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1944440]This is precisely a part of the reason why I was not won over by the clinicas in Sao Paulo. I have not been to a prive in Rio, but my expectation is that it would be pretty much the same thing. Although, and maybe I'm wrong, I have a feeling that the GDPs at the prives of Rio might be a little better looking overall than those working at the clinicas in Sao Paulo? I don't know. Maybe somebody who has frequented both can weigh in here? My finding was that if I could identify at least one 7 at a clinica according to my tastes, then that was doing good![/QUOTE]I think the Prives in Rio are better than Sao Paulo. There are more prives and more variety of chick. And the girls look better.

This morning I was bouncing around to see what the current teams are looking like in some of the prives and I saw something quite odd. I stopped by Euro Rio Spa's site and saw a message, flashing in the lower left corner, that read "Estamos Funcionando los Domingos" (We are working Sundays). This is definitely a first (that I have ever seen) to have somewhere to go during the day on Sunday. Is it a test run? Is it a stay? I'm not sure but if it's the only place to play on Sunday, they should do well and it may just be something to catch on at a few other spots. Let's hope so at least.

I have a question for those of you guys that are familiar with the Centro venues / termas / casas. Today I was with a girl in MV30 and she was a gem to be found there. Only 22 yo and with a big and juicy ass. Very nice!

Thing is that she told me that from Monday she will be working in another terma / casa and it is supposed to be lower priced than MV30. She has not been there yet herself but been told about the place by a friend of hers (amiga). She told me the address and it is supposed to be Rua das Flores number 13 and she told me that it is close to terma 4 x4.

I have been trying to figure the address out on Google maps but I can't find it. She is probably wrong somehow about the address (if it's not me causing the confusion). It is likely though that she got the number right: 13. So does any of you guys have an idea of which place she is thinking of, where I can find her next week?

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946311]I have a question for those of you guys that are familiar with the Centro venues / termas / casas. Today I was with a girl in MV30 and she was a gem to be found there. Only 22 yo and with a big and juicy ass. Very nice!

Thing is that she told me that from Monday she will be working in another terma / casa and it is supposed to be lower priced than MV30. She has not been there yet herself but been told about the place by a friend of hers (amiga). She told me the address and it is supposed to be Rua das Flores number 13 and she told me that it is close to terma 4 x4.

I have been trying to figure the address out on Google maps but I can't find it. She is probably wrong somehow about the address (if it's not me causing the confusion). It is likely though that she got the number right: 13. So does any of you guys have an idea of which place she is thinking of, where I can find her next week?[/QUOTE]I'm into big and juicy asses too. Hopefully this address is cleared up because I will be giving her a visit. Haha.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946311]I have a question for those of you guys that are familiar with the Centro venues / termas / casas. Today I was with a girl in MV30 and she was a gem to be found there. Only 22 yo and with a big and juicy ass. Very nice!

Thing is that she told me that from Monday she will be working in another terma / casa and it is supposed to be lower priced than MV30. She has not been there yet herself but been told about the place by a friend of hers (amiga). She told me the address and it is supposed to be Rua das Flores number 13 and she told me that it is close to terma 4 x4.

I have been trying to figure the address out on Google maps but I can't find it. She is probably wrong somehow about the address (if it's not me causing the confusion). It is likely though that she got the number right: 13. So does any of you guys have an idea of which place she is thinking of, where I can find her next week?[/QUOTE]There is a Rua das Flores 13 but it is in Tijuca, nowhere near 4 x4. It is probably one of the prives in the area.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946311]I have a question for those of you guys that are familiar with the Centro venues / termas / casas. Today I was with a girl in MV30 and she was a gem to be found there. Only 22 yo and with a big and juicy ass. Very nice!

Thing is that she told me that from Monday she will be working in another terma / casa and it is supposed to be lower priced than MV30. She has not been there yet herself but been told about the place by a friend of hers (amiga). She told me the address and it is supposed to be Rua das Flores number 13 and she told me that it is close to terma 4 x4.

I have been trying to figure the address out on Google maps but I can't find it. She is probably wrong somehow about the address (if it's not me causing the confusion). It is likely though that she got the number right: 13. So does any of you guys have an idea of which place she is thinking of, where I can find her next week?[/QUOTE]
No problem. Rua das Flores is between rua Buenos Aires and rua do Rosário. Rua das Flores is on both side of small "square" with lots of flower shops. Not far from the old BA85 on rua Buenos Aires, heading to rua Uruguaiana, you'll have a chinese lanchonette on the left side (in a corner). Take the left in the corner and you'll find rua das Flores no 13. Both no 13 and 15 are puteiros. Not very fancy.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1946332]No problem. Rua das Flores is between rua Buenos Aires and rua do Rosrio. Rua das Flores is on both side of small "square" with lots of flower shops. Not far from the old BA85 on rua Buenos Aires, heading to rua Uruguaiana, you'll have a chinese lanchonette on the left side (in a corner). Take the left in the corner and you'll find rua das Flores no 13. Both no 13 and 15 are puteiros. Not very fancy.[/QUOTE]According to google maps, it is now named Praça Olavo Bilac.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1946343]According to google maps, it is now named Praa Olavo Bilac.[/QUOTE]
It's always been Praça Olavo Bilac. Praça Olavo Bilac and rua das Flores, same thing. Impossible to miss. Just look for a bunch of small flower shops with roses etc.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1946348]It's always been Praa Olavo Bilac. Praa Olavo Bilac and rua das Flores, same thing. Impossible to miss. Just look for a bunch of small flower shops with roses etc.[/QUOTE]Just look for Camélia Flores, one of the best florists in all of Rio.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1946332]No problem. Rua das Flores is between rua Buenos Aires and rua do Rosrio. Rua das Flores is on both side of small "square" with lots of flower shops. Not far from the old BA85 on rua Buenos Aires, heading to rua Uruguaiana, you'll have a chinese lanchonette on the left side (in a corner). Take the left in the corner and you'll find rua das Flores no 13. Both no 13 and 15 are puteiros. Not very fancy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1946343]According to google maps, it is now named Praa Olavo Bilac.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1946348]It's always been Praa Olavo Bilac. Praa Olavo Bilac and rua das Flores, same thing. Impossible to miss. Just look for a bunch of small flower shops with roses etc.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks a lot for clearing this up for me. Now I know where to go next week (and so does Mongmann)!

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946311]I have a question for those of you guys that are familiar with the Centro venues / termas / casas. Today I was with a girl in MV30 and she was a gem to be found there. Only 22 yo and with a big and juicy ass. Very nice!

Thing is that she told me that from Monday she will be working in another terma / casa and it is supposed to be lower priced than MV30. She has not been there yet herself but been told about the place by a friend of hers (amiga). She told me the address and it is supposed to be Rua das Flores number 13 and she told me that it is close to terma 4 x4.

I have been trying to figure the address out on Google maps but I can't find it. She is probably wrong somehow about the address (if it's not me causing the confusion). It is likely though that she got the number right: 13. So does any of you guys have an idea of which place she is thinking of, where I can find her next week?[/QUOTE]13 is a small club in the center, if you are into big ass it is the right place, there are more or less 30 girls it is open from Monday to Saturday it is open early (11 am) it is closed from 7 pm or 9 pm it depends on the move.

There are good looking girls only the room quality is not good, you will only have a paper to wipe your the. Ck.

The price: 15 minutes 50 ; 20 minutes 60 reais, 30 minutes 75 reais: 40 minutes 85 reais, 1 hour 140 reais.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1946381]13 is a small club in the center, if you are into big ass it is the right place, there are more or less 30 girls it is open from Monday to Saturday it is open early (11 am) it is closed from 7 pm or 9 pm it depends on the move.

There are good looking girls only the room quality is not good, you will only have a paper to wipe your the. Ck.

The price: 15 minutes 50 ; 20 minutes 60 reais, 30 minutes 75 reais: 40 minutes 85 reais, 1 hour 140 reais.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the information. So basically it is a daytime spot. I will go there and check out the other girls as well, besides looking for the girl from MV30. I like the price structure, with the different options depending on how long time you want to spend with the girl.

140 Reais is good for one hour. In MV30 I paid 270 for one hour and 35 for entrance (3 drinks included) so 140 is about half the price of that. I think that I will be OK with the more simple rooms and as long as the light is good enough to see the girl well, I think it's all good. I usually don't frequent these more shady places but I have been to Vila Mimosa and I was OK with the kind of rooms there so I believe the puteiro in Rua das Flores 13 will be alright too.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1946381]13 is a small club in the center, if you are into big ass it is the right place, there are more or less 30 girls it is open from Monday to Saturday it is open early (11 am) it is closed from 7 pm or 9 pm it depends on the move.

There are good looking girls only the room quality is not good, you will only have a paper to wipe your the. Ck.

The price: 15 minutes 50 ; 20 minutes 60 reais, 30 minutes 75 reais: 40 minutes 85 reais, 1 hour 140 reais.[/QUOTE]Is that the one you walk a stairs that turn right, then you go right to the bar and left is where the rooms are? There a guy that sells tickets for drinks and for girl access?

If that the same one you talking about. They do have alot of chicks with bundas. Its a local spot.

The bar is on the small walkay opposite the flower shops as previously mentioned.
It is definately a locals place and no robes or entrance fee. Large antartica beer 9 reals. The place gets packed around 5 pm and its very smokey. The rooms are small with no washing facilities and zero room to maneuver the bed. Visable stains all over the sheets.

However alot of hot chicks with HUGE asses that come in all colours and sizes, some terma chicks too. Thanks for Komo753 for showing me
around.

I have just finished a 48 hour fuckandsuckathon that was only meant to be a quick meet. An old escort friend from my previous visit
came to say Hi. When a girl does not want money and is more than happy to stay and fuck, eat and listen to music its quite refreshing, but I was looking for excuses towards the end to get her out. She left, wanting to stay with 100 reals and a victoria secret spray.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946560]Ok, thanks for the information. So basically it is a daytime spot. I will go there and check out the other girls as well, besides looking for the girl from MV30. I like the price structure, with the different options depending on how long time you want to spend with the girl.[/QUOTE]
Regarding Praça Olavo Bilac/rua das Flores no 13 and 15. Both no 13 and 15 are Trash-puteiros. I never found a girl I liked in no 15. Ugly girls and ugly locals drinking beer. No 13 is quite decent to be a Trash. You'll see the complete price list when going up the stairs. You enter a large bar area, quite dark. There is a desk in the middle of the bar area where you pay for your session. The cabins are OK to be Trash. The clientele are locals, not the guys with ties but the lower class. The majority seems just to be there to drink beers and squeeze bundas for free without sessioning. It's been some years since I sessioned at no 13. Too many horse asses, I prefer slimmer girls.

There are many other Trash-puteiros in Centro that I find way better than no 13 and 15.

P.S I do recommend the excellent yakisoba at the chinese lanchonete on the corner (the only chinese lanchonete I've seen in Rio where the staff actually smile).

[QUOTE=Sperto;1946771]Regarding Praa Olavo Bilac/rua das Flores no 13 and 15. Both no 13 and 15 are Trash-puteiros. I never found a girl I liked in no 15. Ugly girls and ugly locals drinking beer. No 13 is quite decent to be a Trash. You'll see the complete price list when going up the stairs. You enter a large bar area, quite dark. There is a desk in the middle of the bar area where you pay for your session. The cabins are OK to be Trash. The clientele are locals, not the guys with ties but the lower class. The majority seems just to be there to drink beers and squeeze bundas for free without sessioning. It's been some years since I sessioned at no 13. Too many horse asses, I prefer slimmer girls.

There are many other Trash-puteiros in Centro that I find way better than no 13 and 15.

P.S I do recommend the excellent yakisoba at the chinese lanchonete on the corner (the only chinese lanchonete I've seen in Rio where the staff actually smile).[/QUOTE]Thanks Sperto for the additional info about No 13 and also for the yakisoba nearby. I might try the yakisoba. Actually today I just passed by Rua das Flores 13 and went upstairs to have a quick look. I was on my way from the Uruguiana metro station going to Cancun, so Rua das Flores was right there passing by. The time was just after 5 PM and it was packed with people upstairs and I was immediately bothered with heavy cigarette smoke.

And from my quick look around I didn't see any girl to my liking and it is possible that when I will go back there next week, the girl from MV30 will be the only one that I will actually session with. From what I understand of the informative posts about this place, it gets busy after 5 PM so I will try to get there more early. I hope to avoid the crowds and hopefully be able to breathe air that is not overly polluted with stinking cigarette smoke.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1946774]Thanks Sperto for the additional info about No 13 and also for the yakisoba nearby. I might try the yakisoba. Actually today I just passed by Rua das Flores 13 and went upstairs to have a quick look. I was on my way from the Uruguiana metro station going to Cancun, so Rua das Flores was right there passing by. The time was just after 5 PM and it was packed with people upstairs and I was immediately bothered with heavy cigarette smoke.

And from my quick look around I didn't see any girl to my liking and it is possible that when I will go back there next week, the girl from MV30 will be the only one that I will actually session with. From what I understand of the informative posts about this place, it gets busy after 5 PM so I will try to get there more early. I hope to avoid the crowds and hopefully be able to breathe air that is not overly polluted with stinking cigarette smoke.[/QUOTE]It is better to go to the club from 1 pm.

People that are not into ass, it is not the right place there are puteiros with few slim and skinny girls even in 4 por 4 or other termas it is not easy to find slim girls Brazil is a ass country Brazil is not eastern Europe.

Thursday and Friday very terrible, more guys, very tight, very smokey.

Mongering in Rio is not like in the past (good time).

Arrived Rio Wednesday, 10/5, in not too good a shape to fuck, and thus only went on reconnaissance visits the first couple of days.

New 81, on Rua Quintanda. 10 Real minimum consumption. Less than 10 girls: one nice one (Talia, mulatta, pretty, slim), one somewhat chunky blonde that some might find acceptable, and one with a gigantic ass for the big ass lovers out there (actually fairly attractive facially but her ass is just too big and has too much cellulite for me).

Termas 31, Rua Machado. 10 Real minimum consumption. Less than 10 girls: only one fuckable (Natalya, mulatta, pretty, slim). 30/110, 60/200. Saw some girls from here coming after 11 PM at 210 Uruguay, where they can be had for 60/150.

210 Rua Uruguay. No minimum consumption (water 5 Real, beer 10 Real). 10-15 girls, 2-3 slim, fairly pretty. 30/90, 40/100, 60/150.

Friday afternoon felt somewhat better so went to 707, Rua de Ouvidor 130. Only 3 girls working. Kelly busy. Chatted with Manu, there for 3 weeks from Minas Gerais, nice face, good body. Confirmed that she did BBBJ, kissed, and did anal. Went to room. Chose 30 minutes (70 real) instead of an hour (140 Real) because did not know how much power I had. A little stiff in the begining but after I massaged her and brought her to orgasm with DATY, she became very GFE and would kiss passionately. Extended for another 30 minutes, during which we did anal, which was very good, and extended another 30 minutes until closing time. Excellent session and will repeat.

Saturday went to Massagems Tijuca, 210 Avenida Paula e Souza. 9-10 girls, but no one appealed to me so left. Went to Anne Massagem, Rua General Roca 263, but the door was locked, so it seems to be closed again even though it was reported in a Brazilian forum to have re-opened in September.

Just want to share my experience of the spa that is part of the Windsor Atlantica hotel. For those who don't know it is situated one block from Mab's. I usually go there Sunday afternoons when I want to treat myself good and Sundays are always a good day to go there and there are usually not more than a couple of visitors in total. The thing about the spa in Windsor Atlantica is that is open for anybody to use and this is unusual. I have been calling most of the bigger hotels in Copacabana to ask if it is possible to come and use their spa's and the answer has almost always been no. Hotel spa's are for hotel guests.

In the past the price for using the spa was only 50 Reais but now they raised the entrance to 75 Reais which still is good. 15% tax is added to this and it is the same for treatments. The spa has two different saunas (dry and wet) and two jacuzzis and a relaxing area. The environment in the spa is very calm and relaxing. And the main reason that I came to think about making this post and recommend the Windsor Spa is because of the massage that can be had there. It is really professional! I have been trying massages in many places (around the world) but the massage that they do in the Windsor Spa is really first class. It is a kind of massage that gets you very much relaxed and it is so good. The price for a 30 minute back massage is 165 Reais and the use of the spa is included in this price. A full body massage is 265 Reais (50 minutes). And besides from different kinds of massages they also offer all other kinds of treatments.

Once I took a girl there and she had a massage and me as well. It was a great afternoon with massage, jacuzzi, sauna and we also enjoyed the view from the terrace on the top floor. The use of the pool on the terrace is not included in the spa visit but it is possible to go up there to have a look and a bell boy will be following. The spa visit was very appreciated by the girl that I took there. Personally I enjoy spa's like this and a good and professional massage once in a while and the Windsor Spa is an excellent choice for this. And if anyone else has a good recommendation for a professional massage or a nice spa I would like to hear about it, so please tell!

When visiting Mab's some girls will always say something like: You and me go to your apartment, I will do a good massage and we will make love. I do take some of the girls for sex but I never believed that any of them would be qualified to give a really good massage so that is probably best to be had in other places. I am all ears to learn to know where else to go for a really good massage. It is nice with variation.

[URL]http://windsorhoteis.com/hotels/windsor-atlantica/urban-spa-copacabana/?lang=en[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1947487]Just want to share my experience of the spa that is part of the Windsor Atlantica hotel. For those who don't know it is situated one block from Mab's. I usually go there Sunday afternoons when I want to treat myself good and Sundays are always a good day to go there and there are usually not more than a couple of visitors in total. The thing about the spa in Windsor Atlantica is that is open for anybody to use and this is unusual. I have been calling most of the bigger hotels in Copacabana to ask if it is possible to come and use their spa's and the answer has almost always been no. Hotel spa's are for hotel guests.[/QUOTE]You might appreciate a Love Motel. They have saunas, Jacuzzis, large showers for two (or more), water beds, large regular beds, porno, sex chairs and room service. Not sure if they have in-house massage services but am sure you could order in.

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[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1947538]You might appreciate a Love Motel. They have saunas, Jacuzzis, large showers for two (or more), water beds, large regular beds, porno, sex chairs and room service. Not sure if they have in-house massage services but am sure you could order in.

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip of love motels. I have heard of them but never tried one myself. I guess I will do that one day. No point of going to one without company but with the right girl I imagine it could be a memorable experience. The list in the link seems to be a good guideline for picking the right love motel.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1947487]Just want to share my experience of the spa that is part of the Windsor Atlantica hotel. For those who don't know it is situated one block from Mab's. I usually go there Sunday afternoons when I want to treat myself good and Sundays are always a good day to go there and there are usually not more than a couple of visitors in total. The thing about the spa in Windsor Atlantica is that is open for anybody to use and this is unusual. I have been calling most of the bigger hotels in Copacabana to ask if it is possible to come and use their spa's and the answer has almost always been no. Hotel spa's are for hotel guests.

In the past the price for using the spa was only 50 Reais but now they raised the entrance to 75 Reais which still is good. 15% tax is added to this and it is the same for treatments. The spa has two different saunas (dry and wet) and two jacuzzis and a relaxing area. The environment in the spa is very calm and relaxing. And the main reason that I came to think about making this post and recommend the Windsor Spa is because of the massage that can be had there. It is really professional! I have been trying massages in many places (around the world) but the massage that they do in the Windsor Spa is really first class. It is a kind of massage that gets you very much relaxed and it is so good. The price for a 30 minute back massage is 165 Reais and the use of the spa is included in this price. A full body massage is 265 Reais (50 minutes). And besides from different kinds of massages they also offer all other kinds of treatments.

Once I took a girl there and she had a massage and me as well. It was a great afternoon with massage, jacuzzi, sauna and we also enjoyed the view from the terrace on the top floor. The use of the pool on the terrace is not included in the spa visit but it is possible to go up there to have a look and a bell boy will be following. The spa visit was very appreciated by the girl that I took there. Personally I enjoy spa's like this and a good and professional massage once in a while and the Windsor Spa is an excellent choice for this. And if anyone else has a good recommendation for a professional massage or a nice spa I would like to hear about it, so please tell!

When visiting Mab's some girls will always say something like: You and me go to your apartment, I will do a good massage and we will make love. I do take some of the girls for sex but I never believed that any of them would be qualified to give a really good massage so that is probably best to be had in other places. I am all ears to learn to know where else to go for a really good massage. It is nice with variation.

[URL]http://windsorhoteis.com/hotels/windsor-atlantica/urban-spa-copacabana/?lang=en[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. The spa at Copacabana Palace is (or used to be, haven't rechecked in last 2 years) open to anyone as well. You could buy gift-certificates for your chosen ladies. But the pricing was absurd. I stick to massages in Thailand Good tips tho on Windsor. Thanks.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1947842]Thanks. The spa at Copacabana Palace is (or used to be, haven't rechecked in last 2 years) open to anyone as well. You could buy gift-certificates for your chosen ladies. But the pricing was absurd. I stick to massages in Thailand Good tips tho on Windsor. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Of course, in Thailand it's a no brainer to get a massage since it is so cheap but even there one has to look for massage that is done with skills and in a professional way.

When I was doing my research of hotels with spa's in Copacabana I remember that the Copacabana Palace was open to anyone but just like you say, I also remember that the pricing was ridiculous. The spa at Windsor Atlantica won't leave you ruined and without knowing Copacabana Palace I am guessing that the spa in Windsor should be just about as good. Very high class of everything there at a price that actually is affordable.

In Copa now til the 16th if anyone wants to meet up and hit the usual spots for beers.

And chicas.

Hello brothers,

I am visiting Rio for the first time on this Friday (14/10) all by myself. I am a senior member who has experience in Asia, Colombia, and Costa Rica.

I been reading the forum for the last few days. I have a list of places to visit but I couldn't get the addresses. The metro system seems little confusing for me. I like to know 4 or 5 mist visit playgrounds and addresses. Also, please DM me if any experienced member will be in Rio during my visit. I really can use a wingman or even get some wisdom over few drinks. I am staying in an apartment in Copa.

Thank you,

Kutz

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1947826]Thanks for the tip of love motels. I have heard of them but never tried one myself. I guess I will do that one day. No point of going to one without company but with the right girl I imagine it could be a memorable experience. The list in the link seems to be a good guideline for picking the right love motel.[/QUOTE]Exec thanks for the link more options!

You're absolutely right with the right girl (s) it can be on another level. Here is one I can vouch for.

[URL]http://www.lovetimehotel.com.br/[/URL]#!precos.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1948263]Exec thanks for the link more options!

You're absolutely right with the right girl (s) it can be on another level. Here is one I can vouch for.

[URL]http://www.lovetimehotel.com.br/[/URL]#!precos.[/QUOTE]Also Panda Motel in Botafogo is good. Standard room with sauna, large showers and music through ceiling-TV in wall. Always enjoyed. Food good.

Banged 3 here.

Even Motel Malaga by VM is not bad at all considering proximity. Its in Tijuca which is gentrifying rapidly but still cheap. About 70 for 4 hours.

Cartago motel, because the best working girls are from Meier.

MotelVIPS because the best working girls fuck best at VIPS.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1948266]Also Panda Motel in Botafogo is good. Standard room with sauna, large showers and music through ceiling-TV in wall. Always enjoyed. Food good.

Banged 3 here.

Even Motel Malaga by VM is not bad at all considering proximity. Its in Tijuca which is gentrifying rapidly but still cheap. About 70 for 4 hours.[/QUOTE]

Today is vacation in Brazil, not many options, I wanted to try the club 22 in Copacabana, they changed their policy, I asked how the club works, entrance without consumption 70 reais (only entrance), + one drink (one soft drink or one local beer (12 reais) total 82 reais. I did not enter I can not pay without knowing what there is inside, also the entrance is too much and I got the feeling it is not worth it. Even termas are cheaper. In the past we just needed to buy a drink to enter this club.

Some people already went to this place inside?

[QUOTE=Komo753;1948637]Today is vacation in Brazil, not many options, I wanted to try the club 22 in Copacabana, they changed their policy, I asked how the club works, entrance without consumption 70 reais (only entrance), + one drink (one soft drink or one local beer (12 reais) total 82 reais. I did not enter I can not pay without knowing what there is inside, also the entrance is too much and I got the feeling it is not worth it. Even termas are cheaper. In the past we just needed to buy a drink to enter this club.

Some people already went to this place inside?[/QUOTE]First, it is small. Second, it always has been a dump.

Over the years, I have be with a few girls there but most of the time would just walk in look around and leave.

Typical misguided Brazilian business model. When you have few customers, raise the prices.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1948681]First, it is small. Second, it always has been a dump.

Over the years, I have be with a few girls there but most of the time would just walk in look around and leave.

Typical misguided Brazilian business model. When you have few customers, raise the prices.[/QUOTE]I did well not to enter, I wanted to see inside, they asked me to pay first they can not let me in just to see inside, my opinion is their club is empty because their only available girl was outside in front of their door, the girl was not good looking.

Even the termas or the clubs let people check first before paying. I asked them how many girls there are? They told me there are 40 girls, I said why I can't enter to check, they said because it is house's policy. I said thank you for the information, see you.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1948879]I did well not to enter, I wanted to see inside, they asked me to pay first they can not let me in just to see inside, my opinion is their club is empty because their only available girl was outside in front of their door, the girl was not good looking.

Even the termas or the clubs let people check first before paying. I asked them how many girls there are? They told me there are 40 girls, I said why I can't enter to check, they said because it is house's policy. I said thank you for the information, see you.[/QUOTE]40?looool they never had 40 people in there ever including staff and girls. ID say 10 at the most. I've been twice-there were 5/6 girls. All 3 out of 10's. You would need 15 Caipirihas first and payment to fuck them.

Its a shambles.

Centro have similar places around Uruguyana where at least there are some doable ones and its cheaper.

22 shd be free entry at the most!

[QUOTE=Komo753;1948879]They told me there are 40 girls, I said why I can't enter to check, they said because it is house's policy. I said thank you for the information, see you.[/QUOTE]
I've entered and checked out Club 22 for free many times. They never argued when I told them I wanted to check it out before deciding if I would stay. Actually I never stayed there and sessioned. Club 22 is a gringo trap. During all the years I've only seen a handful of doable girls at Club 22.

I went to T31 yesterday (entrance 10 reais with one soft drink or one local beer included), I wanted to session with a girl I already sessioned in Cancun. She did not work yesterday I picked another girl, the sex was so so fortunately I only did 30 minutes (110 reais) having sex with this girl is just OK once not more I won't session with her again. The club is nice and clean, you can relax you can also ask the DJ which music you like, there is WiFi. The room I went to was clean and nice but a bit dark, they change sheet. You can take a shower before going to the room with the girl and after the session with the girl. They give you a towel.

Late in the night I went to Mabs to meet Dom, always the same things in Mabs nothing changed, always the same working girls, the same beggars, the same vendors, the same retired men and the same foreign guys living in Rio. Only the tourists are different and then we went to Dolce vita they did not charge us the entrance we just have to pay consumption, I picked two cokes I only paid 15 reais when I go out they forgot to charge me one coke, there were some girls inside but the atmosphere was not very good, Dolce vita changed the atmosphere is no more like in the past when there were balcony downstairs. Now Copacabana is more and more dead.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1949159]I've entered and checked out Club 22 for free many times. They never argued when I told them I wanted to check it out before deciding if I would stay. Actually I never stayed there and sessioned. Club 22 is a gringo trap. During all the years I've only seen a handful of doable girls at Club 22.[/QUOTE]Club 22 : in the past you can enter for free, but they changed their policy because the owner is different. Anyway all Copacabana clubs are a gringo trap. It is better to go to places where it is frequented by local people. I think they want guys to pay because they just go up, watch and leave directly. They need to find a way to make money.

Just checked in to my apartment opposite to WINDSOR ATLANTICA HOTEL. If anyone from the board is available for a drink or two or even show around a newbie some spots, please let me know.

I walked the orla of Copacabana today, 15 years ago I would have been approached by at least 3 or 4 young women to sell ass, today I was approached by 3 or 4 vendors to buy sunglasses or whatever then asking me if I want to buy weed. So you can now get weed easier then ass in Rio? Nice!

Mabs is dead, even on a Friday night maybe there were 6 fugly girls there, no tourists therefore no girls. 4 tourists sitting next to me were discussing what to do on a Friday night at 1 am, 1 said lets go to Lapa, other said lets go to 4 X4, so they all got up to go to 4 X4 at 1 Am Friday night, GoodLuck!

Been using the escort sites to fill in the gaps hotside / Barra Vips.

Took one for the team on a rare night recently leaving the office before 19 hrs. I hadn't been in MC for about 3 months, prior to the Olympics, when Churroman was in town.

When I got to the boate around 19:15 there were maybe 12 girls and in the next 30+ minutes it grew to 20. When I came down at 21 hrs the boate was much more busy -- a lot of guys, whereas at 19 hrs there were 3-4. Girls still saying the "movimento" is very slow / weak these days.

Saw maybe 2-3 old faces (very old) including Mel the tall Venezuelan laywer. I guess being a bankruptcy lawyer doesn't pay these days (though you think it would with the crise), or she didn't finish studying. The rest were OK, some bigger butts but not 4 x4 big. I probably saw 3-4 girls who I thought were doable, but not really at MC prices. Because the Cartman is predictable, I zeroed in on a tall black girl (the only one there) with her hair in African braids. Very slim build, much more Iman than Niki Minaj. Turns out she's 24, has a kid, father doesn't help out, lives by herself with the kid down by Praca Maua, born in Rio to Bahian mom and USA dad (who apparently is dead). Blah blah. Anyway, seemed nice and I wanted to amortize the Kamagra and take one for the team.

In the "loom" (as we say on the Thai forums), her perfomance was muted. Once the dress came off, definitely stretch marks and a little saggy around the midsection. Titties too also had sagged a bit. On the plus side, nice tongue piercing to go with her nose ring. Nice apparatus down below, but with a bit too much stubble -- need to keep that area baby smooth! Like Luke Cage's chrome dome. Magic Shave! Sadly wouldn't take a shot in the mouth. But at that point I was pretty bored anyway. Seemed confused when, after wiping little Cartman off with a baby wipe, I put said wipe into her little trash bag and said (in Portuguese) "Not a dignified treatment for my heirs" haha. She looked at me like I was speaking Martian. Maybe it was my accent. Or maybe it was the use of "digno" and "herdeiros" in a sentence after having blown it on her titties. Who knows. Fun times.

Total damage, with a water for me and a juice for her, came to BRL 552, which is ouch like USD 172.5 (That's with my discount of BRL 110 included, for being a loyal MC frequent fucker. Without discount, I think the 40 minute prices are BRL 460 and the 1-hour suite prices are BRL 640. She asked for some complex drink to which I replied (in my suave portuguese) "Am I going to need a loan?" and she changed her tune to a mango juice. That's why I chose her, seemed reasonable. Sadly not a great fuck.

At centro prices it would have been OK, but the fact of the matter is that you can get much hotter girls in Centro for much better prices. You can't steer every gringo or first-timer to privates or 502 or T31, so MC remains a "safe" choice and I'd imagine (again not having been there recently) still better than Solarium or Centaurus (which I'm assuming is still open).

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1949494]
In the "loom" (as we say on the Thai forums), her perfomance was muted. Once the dress came off, definitely stretch marks and a little saggy around the midsection. Titties too also had sagged a bit. On the plus side, nice tongue piercing to go with her nose ring. Nice apparatus down below, but with a bit too much stubble -- need to keep that area baby smooth! Like Luke Cage's chrome dome. Magic Shave! Sadly wouldn't take a shot in the mouth. But at that point I was pretty bored anyway. Seemed confused when, after wiping little Cartman off with a baby wipe, I put said wipe into her little trash bag and said (in Portuguese) "Not a dignified treatment for my heirs" haha. She looked at me like I was speaking Martian. Maybe it was my accent. Or maybe it was the use of "digno" and "herdeiros" in a sentence after having blown it on her titties. Who knows. Fun times.


-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Similar thing happened to me in Delirio. I just added a new "rule of thumb" for my personal engagement. If she is young and slim and is either wearing a one-piece or something that covers her stomach then that may be a sign that her abs look like balled up homework paper. This and the hysterectomy scars are a turn off for me or worse the bad boob incision scars.

For what it's worth, the new surface Light Rail in Centro, the VLT, has a stop about 1 block from Termas Aeroporto. It's the "Antonio Carlos" stop / station which is the last stop before Santos Dumont airport (or the first stop after Santos Dumont airport). I don't even know if Aeroporto remains open, but the building is still there, and I just noticed the VLT stop yesterday.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1949477]I walked the orla of Copacabana today, 15 years ago I would have been approached by at least 3 or 4 young women to sell ass, today I was approached by 3 or 4 vendors to buy sunglasses or whatever then asking me if I want to buy weed. So you can now get weed easier then ass in Rio? Nice!

Mabs is dead, even on a Friday night maybe there were 6 fugly girls there, no tourists therefore no girls. 4 tourists sitting next to me were discussing what to do on a Friday night at 1 am, 1 said lets go to Lapa, other said lets go to 4 X4, so they all got up to go to 4 X4 at 1 Am Friday night, GoodLuck!

Been using the escort sites to fill in the gaps hotside / Barra Vips.[/QUOTE]Yeah they are hardly gringos that come to Brazil like that, I don't blame them. Right now flights from the East Coast to Brazil is almost $1500-$1800 (Direct Flight) and ($1000) if your willing to do 1 or 2 stops. This is madness. I'm heading to Brazil in December, God Bless my frequent flyer Miles, First Class Tickets for $120. Looks like the action is in the 4 x 4.

Anybody been to the termas lately? Is it a flood of new girls since the economy is so bad and the Olympics is over? Or is it more of the same like last year. Also hate the fact that the dollar is not strong like last year. I guess all the investors are waiting on the US election is over before anybody makes any huge swing trades.

I visited Aerporto on Tuesday last week. A friendly receptionist welcomed me and explained pricing in her best english. Old locker lady very funny and friendly too. Girls were hanging around the locker room which I did not like. The bar and quiet area is on level 2 and a disco / dj is on the 1st. I counted around 15 girls and 3 customers that evening. 7's 8's and maybe a 9.

As Maloou (ex Cancun) now julia was not working like she said she would be, I asked the 9 to sit and chat with me while others hovered close by. I got the feeling this place does not get alot or that evening had not had alot of trade.

We chatted and she kept pushing for 1 hour in the best suite. I used translate to ask direct questions about what I wanted and for her not to change her mind in the room. She was honest and as I wanted the full works I sent her on her way.

I happily chose the 8 and she ticked all the boxes on the interview. I chose 40 minutes in a basic cabin which does not have a shower in the room, only a sink. A great all in session. Only thing is, she left me in the room after and went on her way, which is the kind of thing you expect at boite 13!

Entrada was waved as I sessioned, and this was the promotion that night. Call ahead as there are different promotions going on.

Damage was 404 reals which included 3 caipirinha.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1950897]For what it's worth, the new surface Light Rail in Centro, the VLT, has a stop about 1 block from Termas Aeroporto. It's the "Antonio Carlos" stop / station which is the last stop before Santos Dumont airport (or the first stop after Santos Dumont airport). I don't even know if Aeroporto remains open, but the building is still there, and I just noticed the VLT stop yesterday.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1950964]Yeah they are hardly gringos that come to Brazil like that, I don't blame them. Right now flights from the East Coast to Brazil is almost $1500-$1800 (Direct Flight) and ($1000) if your willing to do 1 or 2 stops. This is madness. I'm heading to Brazil in December, God Bless my frequent flyer Miles, First Class Tickets for $120. Looks like the action is in the 4 x 4.

Anybody been to the termas lately? Is it a flood of new girls since the economy is so bad and the Olympics is over? Or is it more of the same like last year. Also hate the fact that the dollar is not strong like last year. I guess all the investors are waiting on the US election is over before anybody makes any huge swing trades.[/QUOTE]I went to Monte Carlo last Monday late afternoon / early evening. There were a good number of nice girls and as time progressed guys started to roll in the place was busy. I chose a young girl name Nikki, petite morena and she was very mechanical / clinical type worried about where and what I was touching, would not repeat. 509 reais for 40 min including 3 chopps.

Overall I found the escorts to be better performers and better value, Mabs is dead, a waste of time.

[URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com/gabrielaqueirozbv[/URL]

http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/gabrielaqueiroz/2074


On Barra Vip and Hotside I sessioned with this Gabriel, a big blonde like 5'11, a big voluptuous woman, I sometimes like this type, it's not for everybody. She was complete GFE, fun, great sex, I had a great time with her and she didn't watch the clock, stayed 1. 5 hours. I invited her to come to a swing club with me and we had a blast, she's a head turner. We spent 4 hours at 2 a2 having sex with her and other couples. On the way home I paid her in the taxi and thanked her for her service but she kept on massaging me until I got hard again. When we arrived at my apto at 3:45 am she asked if she could come up, I banged her for another hour I was exhausted, this happens most of the time, even after I pay them for a night out at the swing club most of them want to come back up to my apto and bang some more, the club atmosphere must make them very hot.

[URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com/stephanieneves[/URL]

I also had this Stephanie from Barra VIP come over, great photos on the website, when she showed up very young and pretty but not GFE. Her performance was like awkward, I had no idea what she was doing but I finished anyway and would never repeat.

[URL]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa/rj/sami/2344[/URL]

Sami from Hotside, an athlete / bodybuilder, this one was great, smart / educated friendly, fun and also real GFE, I asked her to go to a swing club with me but she said it's not her thing. I would definitely do her again.

Originally I had a freelancer in mind when I arrived in Rio and called her up I was hoping she would be my main girl for the trip. I called her and asked her to meet me for lunch, she told me she doesn't want to be seen with me in public LOL, this was a bad sign. So I met her in my apto and we banged and it was great as usual but she told me she got married 5 months ago, I was very disappointed because I liked her a lot, oh well time to move on.

So when I figured my old friend is now married and Mabs is dead I went back to old facebook friends from 6 or 7 years ago. I got in contact with one girl who I had never met but chatted with a few times on FB years ago. I told her straight out I needed a friend to go to a swing club with, I wasn't sure if she was a GDP or not but she asked a few questions about what goes on there and then pretty much said she wasn't able to go. So I gave her a good incentive to go and now she had some interest. We chatted online for a few hours explaining how it all works then finally she shows up at my door and I was very pleasantly surprised. Dressed with mini skirt and heels we went off to the club, I had to push away a lot of eager guys because I hadn't had her yet, this was probably the first girl I had a hard time to swap with but I did a few times for some hot girls. She is now my new friend for future trips, we had chemistry. I might have found her from another friends friend list years ago who was an old Help girl, that is what I suspect this girl is but I didn't get into it with her, she has a regular job now. She also came back to my apto after it was all over, took a shower and got in bed with me and banged some more, she was on fire, crazy the older I get and I have been doing this a long time now the better it gets.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1951002]I visited Aerporto on Tuesday last week. A friendly receptionist welcomed me and explained pricing in her best english. Old locker lady very funny and friendly too. Girls were hanging around the locker room which I did not like. The bar and quiet area is on level 2 and a disco / dj is on the 1st. I counted around 15 girls and 3 customers that evening. 7's 8's and maybe a 9.

As Maloou (ex Cancun) now julia was not working like she said she would be, I asked the 9 to sit and chat with me while others hovered close by. I got the feeling this place does not get alot or that evening had not had alot of trade.

We chatted and she kept pushing for 1 hour in the best suite. I used translate to ask direct questions about what I wanted and for her not to change her mind in the room. She was honest and as I wanted the full works I sent her on her way.

I happily chose the 8 and she ticked all the boxes on the interview. I chose 40 minutes in a basic cabin which does not have a shower in the room, only a sink. A great all in session. Only thing is, she left me in the room after and went on her way, which is the kind of thing you expect at boite 13!

Entrada was waved as I sessioned, and this was the promotion that night. Call ahead as there are different promotions going on.

Damage was 404 reals which included 3 caipirinha.[/QUOTE]I decided to check this place out tonight. It's pretty much the new Termas 65. The management staff from 65 and all the girls from there work here now. In fact, one of the nice locker room attendants at 65 now works here as the receptionist. I guess the theme here is a flight theme since the place is now called [B]Nova Aeroporto[/B]. The girls all wear flight attendant type uniforms which consist of short tops and short shorts or a tight flight attendant type of short dress. I got here around 5:45 pm. I guess this place has been remodeled but it didn't look like anything new or remodeled to me. This was my first time here, so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. There were about 5 girls downstairs in the boite and one customer. This boite is tiny, about the size of Solarium's boite. So then I went upstairs to the bar area which is similar to 4 x4 smoking bar area but smaller. At least they don't smoke in this Aeroporto bar. There are a couple of long sofas against the wall in the bar upstairs. I waited around upstairs and eventually all the girls showed up. In fact, about 20 total showed up upstairs, most of them were sitting on the sofa chatting with managers and others were hanging around the bar. There were 2 other customers up here but they weren't wearing robes. I guess it's a robe or street clothes option, like MV30. I have to say, the talent level was terrible. Mostly 6's and a couple of 7. 5's. Not even an 8. Most of the girls here seemed older and too thick for my taste.

I waited around until 7 pm to see if I could find anyone to session with since they wave the [NOPARSE]R$100[/NOPARSE] room fee if you session before 7 pm on Wednesdays. Man I was hoping that I would like this place and that it was one of Rio's new seldom talked about gems. Needless to say, I'm never coming back here. The place is just so small and lacks any kind of good vibe and has unattractive chicks. I had a coke and bought a girl a beer. I ended up just paying [NOPARSE]R$100[/NOPARSE] . I guess [NOPARSE]R$50[/NOPARSE] goes towards consumption every day, so that's a plus.

[B]Pricing structure[/B]:
[LIST]
Entry - R$100[/LIST][LIST]
40 minutes - R$100 for the room and R$250 for the girl[/LIST][LIST]
60 minutes - R$100 for the room and R$350 for the girl[/LIST][LIST]
60 minutes in a suite - I didn't even bother to look![/LIST]
[B]Daily promotions[/B]:
[LIST]
Monday - consume R$60 and get free entry[/LIST][LIST]
Tuesday - R$100 room fee waived if you session with a girl[/LIST][LIST]
Wednesday - R$100 room fee waived if you session with a girl before 7 pm[/LIST][LIST]
Thursday - 50% off the R$100 entry fee, where the R$50 can be used towards consumption[/LIST][LIST]
Friday - buy one drink get one free[/LIST]

I just want to thank Azn and Bob for posting high-quality up to date reports.

Another run last night to the Centro spots off Uruguaina.

Thursday night being my favorite, it didn't let me down.

Full force of garotas, but still not quite the crowd of Brazilian dudes.

Hooked up with some beauties in several spots, then off to VM where I met a girl brand new to the biz.

Ended up taking her home.

MABs, MC, Solarium, etc, not for me!

To each their own, of course.

Hotter girls, appreciative, non-gringo jaded, at a much less cost.

Easy decision for me.

A few spots in Centro bands pagode tonight. The square across from Rua Lavradio and the patio of Devassa on Rua do Rosario, but what I didn't expect was to walk into 81 and see a pagoda band playing. Thinking it was a quick break for the DJ, I asked one of the girls "where's the DJ? She says that this is something new, that there is no DJ. On Friday as it is now just a pagoda band for the the night.

Hell, I figured since I have to pay this entrada, I'm going to drink the consumption then keep on pushing. Has anyone else heard of anything similar? I'd like to avoid those places on Live music night.

Correction. A few spots in Centro had bands playing pagode tonight.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1952491]A few spots in Centro bands pagode tonight. The square across from Rua Lavradio and the patio of Devassa on Rua do Rosario, but what I didn't expect was to walk into 81 and see a pagoda band playing. Thinking it was a quick break for the DJ, I asked one of the girls "where's the DJ? She says that this is something new, that there is no DJ on Friday as it is now just a pagoda band for the the night.

Hell, I figured since I have to pay this entrada, I'm going to drink the consumption then keep on pushing. Has anyone else heard of anything similar? I'd like to avoid those places on Live music night.[/QUOTE]

A while ago I shared my experience of the Windsor Atlantica for using their spa and having a massage there. And everything is so excellent there! So I have been a couple of times to Cancun in Centro recently and can share my experience of the club (with a review of the massage there as well).

Pricing is similar to 4 x4 and for an hour with the girl it comes to a total of 400 Reais. 330 for the girl and 70 for entrance but one can use the 70 Reais for consumption in the bar. 4 x4 doesn't include any consumption of beverages but instead the entrance is waived if you take a girl before 6 PM. This is probably known to all of you here but I just mention it in case somebody missed it. The rooms are definitely more comfortable in Cancun where the rooms in 4 x4 are smaller and doesn't seems to have as good lighting. One thing that bothers me in Cancun is that smoking is accepted in the toilets just near the reception and the cigarette smoke can be quite noticeable in the changing area as well. In 4 x4 people seems to go more far away to smoke which is better and I was never bothered with cigarette smoke in 4 x4.

On my last visit I had a 27 year old girl in Cancun, Vivi, and she was a good experience. Big and nice ass and friendly in the room. Good blowjob from her and she was up to kissing as well. Many girls doesn't like to kiss and sometimes when they do, it is more of a kiss on the mouth and not the deep kissing. Vivi was into deep kissing and with a beautiful girl like her I very much appreciate some real kissing. And she was good for sex in doggy too!

I saw some other girls with nice asses so I will go back there to try them also. For me, the talent is better in Cancun than in 4 x4 at the moment and there are too many pumped up fake asses in 4 x4. But some nice and natural girls as well too of course.

I do like a good massage once in a while and had such a good experience of the massage in Windsor Atlantica and I felt like having a massage when I was in Cancun. They advertise that the massage is professional and specialized in being relaxing and it is not too expensive so I gave it a try. 80 Reais for 40 minutes and 100 for the hour and I choosed the 40 minutes massage. I shouldn't have done that because the massage was probably the worst massage that I had in my entire life!

The lady doing the massage was a bit older, I would guess around 60 yo. She was using some kind of cream which definitely wasn't ment for massage and it left a wet and unpleasant feeling on my body. And when massaging she did it with very fast and almost spastic movements and it was just strange and uncomfortable. I asked her to slow down and I said that I wanted her to massage me in a relaxing way and she slowed down her pace just a little bit but she still continued doing it fast and unpleasant. I don't know where she learned to massage like this and it must be in a way that she made up totally by herself. I don't believe that anyone teaching how to massage would teach such a "technique" like she was doing her massage. Totally unprofessional and I never experienced something like that before. The 40 minutes of her massage was a total waste of money and everyone should be advised to not use the massage service in Cancun. A terrible experience to be totally honest about it.

Only one time before did I have a massage in a terma and it was in Monte Carlo. I remember that the massage was quite poor there also and the lady also did some kind of chiropractic twisting to my neck which I didn't like. Chiropractics should be done by professionals and not by amateurs. So it seems like having a so called professional massage in a terma is just a waste of money and time. Too bad because it is the right environment for a massage, for example after a good hour spent with a girl of your choice.

I once tried a massage in the beach (Copacabana) and I remember that it was a lousy massage as well. Too many amateurs doing anything for making money in Brazil doing things that they don't have a clue of how to do it. BUT the massage that one can have in the Windsor Atlantica spa is the exception to the rest because it is massage of world class there. Highly recommended and the others seems like they all should be forgotten about.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1952491]A few spots in Centro bands pagode tonight. The square across from Rua Lavradio and the patio of Devassa on Rua do Rosario, but what I didn't expect was to walk into 81 and see a pagoda band playing. Thinking it was a quick break for the DJ, I asked one of the girls "where's the DJ? She says that this is something new, that there is no DJ. On Friday as it is now just a pagoda band for the the night.

Hell, I figured since I have to pay this entrada, I'm going to drink the consumption then keep on pushing. Has anyone else heard of anything similar? I'd like to avoid those places on Live music night.[/QUOTE]LOL yo Cancun had bands too weekly. Not sure which day. In the upstairs boate. Daily in the whiskeria theres usually some type of guitar / vocals.

They wanted to do it in Subsolo late night. Wd be kinda fun but it can get a bit in the way.

Some of the boates in Niteroi close to where the barco docks used to have funk bands.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1952867]A while ago I shared my experience of the Windsor Atlantica for using their spa and having a massage there. And everything is so excellent there! So I have been a couple of times to Cancun in Centro recently and can share my experience of the club (with a review of the massage there as well).

Pricing is similar to 4 x4 and for an hour with the girl it comes to a total of 400 Reais. 330 for the girl and 70 for entrance but one can use the 70 Reais for consumption in the bar. 4 x4 doesn't include any consumption of beverages but instead the entrance is waived if you take a girl before 6 PM. This is probably known to all of you here but I just mention it in case somebody missed it. The rooms are definitely more comfortable in Cancun where the rooms in 4 x4 are smaller and doesn't seems to have as good lighting. One thing that bothers me in Cancun is that smoking is accepted in the toilets just near the reception and the cigarette smoke can be quite noticeable in the changing area as well. In 4 x4 people seems to go more far away to smoke which is better and I was never bothered with cigarette smoke in 4 x4.

On my last visit I had a 27 year old girl in Cancun, Vivi, and she was a good experience. Big and nice ass and friendly in the room. Good blowjob from her and she was up to kissing as well. Many girls doesn't like to kiss and sometimes when they do, it is more of a kiss on the mouth and not the deep kissing. Vivi was into deep kissing and with a beautiful girl like her I very much appreciate some real kissing. And she was good for sex in doggy too!

I saw some other girls with nice asses so I will go back there to try them also. For me, the talent is better in Cancun than in 4 x4 at the moment and there are too many pumped up fake asses in 4 x4. But some nice and natural girls as well too of course.

I do like a good massage once in a while and had such a good experience of the massage in Windsor Atlantica and I felt like having a massage when I was in Cancun. They advertise that the massage is professional and specialized in being relaxing and it is not too expensive so I gave it a try. 80 Reais for 40 minutes and 100 for the hour and I choosed the 40 minutes massage. I shouldn't have done that because the massage was probably the worst massage that I had in my entire life!

The lady doing the massage was a bit older, I would guess around 60 yo. She was using some kind of cream which definitely wasn't ment for massage and it left a wet and unpleasant feeling on my body. And when massaging she did it with very fast and almost spastic movements and it was just strange and uncomfortable. I asked her to slow down and I said that I wanted her to massage me in a relaxing way and she slowed down her pace just a little bit but she still continued doing it fast and unpleasant. I don't know where she learned to massage like this and it must be in a way that she made up totally by herself. I don't believe that anyone teaching how to massage would teach such a "technique" like she was doing her massage. Totally unprofessional and I never experienced something like that before. The 40 minutes of her massage was a total waste of money and everyone should be advised to not use the massage service in Cancun. A terrible experience to be totally honest about it.

Only one time before did I have a massage in a terma and it was in Monte Carlo. I remember that the massage was quite poor there also and the lady also did some kind of chiropractic twisting to my neck which I didn't like. Chiropractics should be done by professionals and not by amateurs. So it seems like having a so called professional massage in a terma is just a waste of money and time. Too bad because it is the right environment for a massage, for example after a good hour spent with a girl of your choice.

I once tried a massage in the beach (Copacabana) and I remember that it was a lousy massage as well. Too many amateurs doing anything for making money in Brazil doing things that they don't have a clue of how to do it. BUT the massage that one can have in the Windsor Atlantica spa is the exception to the rest because it is massage of world class there. Highly recommended and the others seems like they all should be forgotten about.[/QUOTE]Massage in a terma is bound to be bad, if she was any good she wouldn't be there.

On Copa beach there are 3 who are good. One infront of Windsor,2 infront of Othon.

All 3 good. 1 hour is 80-120.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1952449]Another run last night to the Centro spots off Uruguaina.

Thursday night being my favorite, it didn't let me down.

Full force of garotas, but still not quite the crowd of Brazilian dudes.

Hooked up with some beauties in several spots, then off to VM where I met a girl brand new to the biz.

Ended up taking her home.

MABs, MC, Solarium, etc, not for me!

To each their own, of course.

Hotter girls, appreciative, non-gringo jaded, at a much less cost.

Easy decision for me.[/QUOTE]A man of my heart. This is the only way I roll in Rio and have been for quite a while. This and non-pro which is so massive in Brazil and easy.

I mean in Centro a girl fucked the shit out of me for 150 for 1 hour in AfroD-Uruguyana and it was great-that's wd be 450 anywhere for gringos and service might not have been on par.The raw spots usually guarantee decent performance if you have vibe as they dont want rep with cariocas of being bad in room-these are bread and butter clients-not 4 times a year gringos..the maths dont add up.

What do you normally pay to the girl for a visit to a swing club?

[QUOTE=Kuttappan;1952930]What do you normally pay to the girl for a visit to a swing club?[/QUOTE]Typically I like to pay 500 reais for the night. Depends on the girl, I have had some ask for 1000 reais or even 700 but I won't go that high, maybe 600 if she is special but 500 is what I like to pay. This could include about 4 hours of her time and sex with you and multiple others maybe 2 or 3 more so if they look at it as work then they are working harder than normal.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952927]A man of my heart. This is the only way I roll in Rio and have been for quite a while. This and non-pro which is so massive in Brazil and easy.

I mean in Centro a girl fucked the shit out of me for 150 for 1 hour in AfroD-Uruguyana and it was great-that's wd be 450 anywhere for gringos and service might not have been on par.The raw spots usually guarantee decent performance if you have vibe as they dont want rep with cariocas of being bad in room-these are bread and butter clients-not 4 times a year gringos..the maths dont add up.[/QUOTE]Right on amigo!

I took a buddy of mine with me to Centro and VM.

He's normally a Copa guy.

Termas, MABS, Barbarelas, etc.

He was nervous and afraid, LOL, but in the end he loved it.

He ended bringing a girl home from VM as well.

Another sweety.

I negotiated a good price for him.

Pay whatever you like, LOL.

As you know, once you gain their confidence, they just want want to go, and they're happy with whatever, cause it beats hangin and workin and sleeping at VM for them.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1952926]Massage in a terma is bound to be bad, if she was any good she wouldn't be there.

On Copa beach there are 3 who are good. One infront of Windsor,2 infront of Othon.

All 3 good. 1 hour is 80-120.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendations of the three massages in Copacabana beach that are good. I might try one of them and one good thing about them being on the beach is that you can see when someone is getting a massage and judge the quality of the massage from how it is performed.

But massage in a terma -- never again! Massages in termas seems to be the worst massages one can have and it's a pity because the idea of a nice massage combined with sauna and a hot girl is actually very ideal.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1953265]Thanks for the recommendations of the three massages in Copacabana beach that are good. I might try one of them and one good thing about them being on the beach is that you can see when someone is getting a massage and judge the quality of the massage from how it is performed.

But massage in a terma -- never again! Massages in termas seems to be the worst massages one can have and it's a pity because the idea of a nice massage combined with sauna and a hot girl is actually very ideal.[/QUOTE]No problems. I'm here to help the good dudes who come to Rio.

Dude with glasses and all white clothes infront of Othon Palace is good.

Ernandes I believe the name.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1953240]Right on amigo!

I took a buddy of mine with me to Centro and VM.

He's normally a Copa guy.

Termas, MABS, Barbarelas, etc.

He was nervous and afraid, LOL, but in the end he loved it.

He ended bringing a girl home from VM as well.

Another sweety.

I negotiated a good price for him.

Pay whatever you like, LOL.

As you know, once you gain their confidence, they just want want to go, and they're happy with whatever, cause it beats hangin and workin and sleeping at VM for them.[/QUOTE]Sleepin in a decent bed in a hotel or apartment beats sharing with 2/3 on a semen stained sheet in VM's "rooms".

I have in all dealt with 4 girls from VM outside on a regular.

All great sex, all cheap, all good girls.

I've never given them more than 150. Occasionally 200 for 36 hours-that's 4/5 sessions.

Sometimes just food. Drinks.

Its very hit and miss place but like its stated you can get lucky.

I have had quite a few ok sessions-some shit ones and then some great ones.

Centro beats the Tier 1 termas everytime for price, sexiness, quality. Only the establishments arent as plush but then you can take Cancun if you want that luxury 60 minutes room but its still 400 or so.

Once in a while I don't mind that if the girl is smokin. Then its a good will gesture towards her. I might even tip her after and shell be ready to see me outside.

Trick is to make her come and seem selfless. But good. If you want to see her outside. Then they think. Wait a minute. He fucked the shit out of me and I got tipped? This don't make sense but I love it. !loool.

It works. Just keep a lid on it and the girls in check.

In Rio mostly all of GDP get a little money happy but in VM the baddest mulatto chic I found refused BBBJ so a little bribe did it and it was tremendous. Full hour and CIM for 140 alltogether incl bribe.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1953344]ated you can get lucky.

In Rio mostly all of GDP get a little money happy but in VM the baddest mulatto chic I found refused BBBJ so a little bribe did it and it was tremendous. Full hour and CIM for 140 alltogether incl bribe.[/QUOTE]Sounds great amigo!

I've had mostly pretty good sessions in VM with a few excellent and a few take home specials.

Of course a couple bad sessions as well, when I ignored my intuition and went for the session even though the vibe wasn't good, but the girl was hot.

Usually turns out bad, LOL.

One particular time in VM, I sessioned with a really hot garota who was pretty ice cold in the bar, but her beauty got the best of me, so I went upstairs with her.

In the room she was a total 0, a bitchy dud.

I simply stopped what I was doing, didn't say a word to her, got dressed and left the room.

I was writing it off as a bad experience.

The madam (tia) who I had befriended and actually had brought Victoria Secret for asked me how it went.

When I told her it was probably the worst experience I've ever had with a garota, she actually gave me my money back, less the 15 real room charge, LOL.

I was stunned, and the bitchy ice princess garota gave me the stink eye, LOL.

Trust me, this girl didn't deserve one red centavo!

[QUOTE=Balboa;1953396]Sounds great amigo!

I've had mostly pretty good sessions in VM with a few excellent and a few take home specials.

Of course a couple bad sessions as well, when I ignored my intuition and went for the session even though the vibe wasn't good, but the girl was hot.

Usually turns out bad, LOL.

One particular time in VM, I sessioned with a really hot garota who was pretty ice cold in the bar, but her beauty got the best of me, so I went upstairs with her.

In the room she was a total 0, a bitchy dud.

I simply stopped what I was doing, didn't say a word to her, got dressed and left the room.

I was writing it off as a bad experience.

The madam (tia) who I had befriended and actually had brought Victoria Secret for asked me how it went.

When I told her it was probably the worst experience I've ever had with a garota, she actually gave me my money back, less the 15 real room charge, LOL.

I was stunned, and the bitchy ice princess garota gave me the stink eye, LOL.

Trust me, this girl didn't deserve one red centavo![/QUOTE]Haha sharing shit VM programs. How about this one:

Girl was fire in the boate. Aaliyah look-a-like. Dancin on the pole. Upside down. The whole nine. She was fun and we danced in there.

If it was a hard sell it was working. Hot girl. Morena. In the bar on the right in the 2nd alleyway.

So we went up. Full hour. And I had slipped her 20 a a tip for mad dance downstairs.

We come up and after 5 minutes of foreplay-no fucking! She's like. Times up! I'm like yeah ok-turn over. She's like. Nah times up.

I was like your clock must be runnin fast-we got 50 minutes left.

Arguing back and forth I was like. You stay there.

Another argument downstairs and half the money back.

The girl comes downstairs and starts throwin stuff. Only in VM.

And not sure I figured out the best area to stay.

Is it even possible to be centrally located within walking distance of enough establishments that I could be entertained for 3 weeks??

Hey guys,

I need your help.

I am going to be out in Rio from December 2- 11. It is my first time out here. I am a seasoned Monger and have been to many other Latin American and Asian countries. I was wondering if anyone can put me in the right direction of what places to go to and where to stay away from. I am also looking for a Chica guide to show me around town and drive me to multiple spots. If anyone has a list of mandatory spots to check out or a name and number to chica tour guide that would be greatly appreciated. I also like freelance bars such as help that is no longer around.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1953622]Haha sharing shit VM programs. How about this one:

Girl was fire in the boate. Aaliyah look-a-like. Dancin on the pole. Upside down. The whole nine. She was fun and we danced in there.

If it was a hard sell it was working. Hot girl. Morena. In the bar on the right in the 2nd alleyway.

So we went up. Full hour. And I had slipped her 20 a a tip for mad dance downstairs.

We come up and after 5 minutes of foreplay-no fucking! She's like. Times up! I'm like yeah ok-turn over. She's like. Nah times up.

I was like your clock must be runnin fast-we got 50 minutes left.

Arguing back and forth I was like. You stay there.

Another argument downstairs and half the money back.

The girl comes downstairs and starts throwin stuff. Only in VM.[/QUOTE]Only in VM!!

That's hilarious!!

So a disaster happened to me yesterday and my phone broke down. I had it with me in my robe in a terma and close to showers and steam saunas. The high humidity must have messed my phone up because the screen was going crazy and at the end of the night it just stopped to work and didn't respond to touching.

The phone with all the important Whatsapp-contacts to the girls is just so precious and important that when the phone is breaking down it feels like a disaster. So I googled for phone repairs and got a few suggestions and one nearby, in Copacabana, Sigueira Campos. They said that they could fix the phone to the day after for 150 Reais but when checking for availability of the particular screen to my phone they said that they couldn't get it.

I was anyway going to Centro for a terma and saw a phone repair shop in Rua Buenos Aires, close to the Uruguaiana metro station. They only worked with Apple products but they recommended me to a repair shop just nearby. Just by that open space where Buenos Aires meets Uruguaiana there are these so called boxes with plenty of small stores inside and most of them seems to focus on cellphone repairs as well as computer repairs and I also saw repair shops for watches.

I got to the shop that was recommended to me and they said that they could fix my phone for 100 Reais and that it would take 40 minutes or up to 1 hour. One guy left the shop and in 5 minutes he was back with the screen to my phone and he started to work on it. He really took my phone apart completely and I could see him in action, working with my phone. And in 30 minutes he finished his job and I got my phone back in perfectly working condition. What a joy, to get the phone back with all the important information right there. Such a good service to be able to get a phone repair on the spot and for such a reasonable price as 100 Reais.

I mention all this because I think it can be valuable information for any other of you guys, if you will need to get a broken phone fixed fast and efficiently and to a good price. I was really impressed with how smooth the repair went, and how fast it was done. A phone with the contacts to the garotas is something very vital and even just one day without it feels like the sky just fell down on you. Google didn't help me much in pointing me in the right direction but what I discovered is that the repair shops inside the boxes in Uruguaiana is where to go for efficient phone repairs.

Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1954102]Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.[/QUOTE]I took a taxi from Galeo when I got here some weeks ago and it was 75 Reais to Copacabana (Posto 6). But that is the rip off price and it should be around 55 - 60 Reais (at least that's the price I remember from one year ago).

I knew after a while that the cab driver was cheating me because he took the long way through Centro and Botafogo and the shortest way is through the tunnels and by the Lagoa to come directly to Cantagalo in Copacabana. But my Portuguese is too poor so I would have a hard time to make myself understood so I didn't say much. Besides, he was already on his way, the wrong (long) way.

So the answer to your question is that a taxi from Galeo to Copacabana will be something like 55 - 75 Reais. I haven't tried Uber from the airport but I will use an Uber when leaving from here going back to the airport. It will be considerably cheaper. I didn't know of Uber since I got here but I understand that a lot of people use Uber in Brazil and it is very cheap. I advice you to check it up and it is just to download to your phone and start using it.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1954102]Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.[/QUOTE]Very early in the morning or late in the night you pay 45 -50 reais in the day with much traffic you pay 70 reais.

From the airport you can take the bus to Copacabana only 17 reais.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1954165]I took a taxi from Galeo when I got here some weeks ago and it was 75 Reais to Copacabana (Posto 6). But that is the rip off price and it should be around 55 - 60 Reais (at least that's the price I remember from one year ago).

I knew after a while that the cab driver was cheating me because he took the long way through Centro and Botafogo and the shortest way is through the tunnels and by the Lagoa to come directly to Cantagalo in Copacabana. But my Portuguese is too poor so I would have a hard time to make myself understood so I didn't say much. Besides, he was already on his way, the wrong (long) way.

So the answer to your question is that a taxi from Galeo to Copacabana will be something like 55 - 75 Reais. I haven't tried Uber from the airport but I will use an Uber when leaving from here going back to the airport. It will be considerably cheaper. I didn't know of Uber since I got here but I understand that a lot of people use Uber in Brazil and it is very cheap. I advice you to check it up and it is just to download to your phone and start using it.[/QUOTE]Uber is not allowed to do pick-ups at GIG, only drop-offs. To do a pick up, you have to give your location as one of the places "near" the airport on the map (move the pin) - and then when a driver accepts, you call him and arrange to meet him somewhere in the Parking level of the airport. It's not great because the phone connection usually sucks, and then you have to talk portuguese on a shitty phone connection to your uber driver. There are some kiosks right AFTER you leave customs where you can prepay a taxi with credit card for around BRL 71 plus "baggage" fees (they charge extra for bags). It saves you having to haggle with the driver or worry about the driver screwing you. But if you go to the wrong kiosk and they quote you an absurd price like BRL 90+, avoid them.

At SDU, there is an "uber lounge" in the mall attached to SDU where you can wait for you uber to pick you up. But you have to walk from the airport over to the mall with your bags.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1953622]Haha sharing shit VM programs. How about this one:

Girl was fire in the boate. Aaliyah look-a-like. Dancin on the pole. Upside down. The whole nine. She was fun and we danced in there.

If it was a hard sell it was working. Hot girl. Morena. In the bar on the right in the 2nd alleyway.

So we went up. Full hour. And I had slipped her 20 a a tip for mad dance downstairs.

We come up and after 5 minutes of foreplay-no fucking! She's like. Times up! I'm like yeah ok-turn over. She's like. Nah times up.

I was like your clock must be runnin fast-we got 50 minutes left.

Arguing back and forth I was like. You stay there.

Another argument downstairs and half the money back.

The girl comes downstairs and starts throwin stuff. Only in VM.[/QUOTE]She was tired. Similar thing happened to me in Luomo 9 years ago. Only poor session of that trip. Morena was pole dancing when I entered the terma. I watched her for about an hour and was turned on. Session with her after her performance was a total let down. I put it to fatigue.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1954260]Uber is not allowed to do pick-ups at GIG, only drop-offs. To do a pick up, you have to give your location as one of the places "near" the airport on the map (move the pin) - and then when a driver accepts, you call him and arrange to meet him somewhere in the Parking level of the airport. It's not great because the phone connection usually sucks, and then you have to talk portuguese on a shitty phone connection to your uber driver. There are some kiosks right AFTER you leave customs where you can prepay a taxi with credit card for around BRL 71 plus "baggage" fees (they charge extra for bags). It saves you having to haggle with the driver or worry about the driver screwing you. But if you go to the wrong kiosk and they quote you an absurd price like BRL 90+, avoid them.

At SDU, there is an "uber lounge" in the mall attached to SDU where you can wait for you uber to pick you up. But you have to walk from the airport over to the mall with your bags.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the clarification and the other info about Uber and taxis. So it is taxi that is the best way to go from the airport but at least Uber is the best choice when going there.

I know what you say about trying to talk to an Uber driver with a lousy connection and trying to understand in Portuguese and make oneself understood. It is simply terrible and won't work out at all (I tried it already).

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1953622]Haha sharing shit VM programs. How about this one:

Girl was fire in the boate. Aaliyah look-a-like. Dancin on the pole. Upside down. The whole nine. She was fun and we danced in there.

If it was a hard sell it was working. Hot girl. Morena. In the bar on the right in the 2nd alleyway.

So we went up. Full hour. And I had slipped her 20 a a tip for mad dance downstairs.

We come up and after 5 minutes of foreplay-no fucking! She's like. Times up! I'm like yeah ok-turn over. She's like. Nah times up.

I was like your clock must be runnin fast-we got 50 minutes left.

Arguing back and forth I was like. You stay there.

Another argument downstairs and half the money back.

The girl comes downstairs and starts throwin stuff. Only in VM.[/QUOTE]My last two sessions in VM (one in May and one in October) started fine but turned to shit when the girl (in April) and the house (in October) cut the session short at 20 minutes. The house refused to do anything about it in the April session and the girl said she did not control the time in the October session. I complained to the house (the one opposite Blue House) about the time shorting in the October session but she said it was 30 minutes from the time she wrote on the paper (I knew it was 20 minutes because I showed the time to the girl when we went to the room). She also refused to give me back the change for the room because I needed to get it back from the girl for services not performed, not her (obviously the girl was not going to give it back), so finally left, out 25 real and 10 minutes of the session.

For those non-VM veterans who plan to go to VM, I think you should consider the following:

1) Expect the girl or the house or both to try to cheat you on the time.

2) Verify what time the house person writes as to when the room starts.

3) Compare the time on your watch or phone to the time they wrote and tell them that you expect the time to be 30 minutes from the time you have, since the time they write will be ahead of yours.

4) Show the girl the time you have and when you expect the session to end.

5) Always get your change for the room charge before you go to the room. If the house won't give you the change, cancel the session and get your money back.

6) Never agree to a package deal with the girl up front. Get her prices for what you want and tell her that you will pay her after the session for any of those extras that you actually did.

7) If there is any reluctance to accept these conditions, leave because you will get cheated.

8) Don't be surprised if you still get cheated.

Hey guys,

I need your help.

I am going to be out in Rio from December 2- 11. It is my first time out here. I am a seasoned Monger and have been to many other Latin American and Asian countries. I was wondering if anyone can put me in the right direction of what places to go to and where to stay away from. I am also looking for a Chica guide to show me around town and drive me to multiple spots. If anyone has a list of mandatory spots to check out or a name and number to chica tour guide that would be greatly appreciated. I also like freelance bars such as help that is no longer around.

Thanks again!

Please PM me.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1954260]UThere are some kiosks right AFTER you leave customs where you can prepay a taxi with credit card for around BRL 71 plus "baggage" fees (they charge extra for bags).[/QUOTE]To clarify, when I say "AFTER you leave customs" I mean when you exit the final doors to the general airport area, after having cleared customs and now, I think, walking thru Duty Free etc. There are still final doors before you exit into the main aiport. The taxi booth (Infocoop?) is usually right outside the doors once you enter the general airport. Rule of thumb is if they're charging more than BRL 75 or so, you're at the wrong booth.

Don't forget Taxis are double the price on weekends and holidays, so that trip to the airport will be double if its on the weekend.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1953963]So a disaster happened to me yesterday and my phone broke down. I had it with me in my robe in a terma and close to showers and steam saunas. The high humidity must have messed my phone up because the screen was going crazy and at the end of the night it just stopped to work and didn't respond to touching.

The phone with all the important Whatsapp-contacts to the girls is just so precious and important that when the phone is breaking down it feels like a disaster. So I googled for phone repairs and got a few suggestions and one nearby, in Copacabana, Sigueira Campos. They said that they could fix the phone to the day after for 150 Reais but when checking for availability of the particular screen to my phone they said that they couldn't get it.

I was anyway going to Centro for a terma and saw a phone repair shop in Rua Buenos Aires, close to the Uruguaiana metro station. They only worked with Apple products but they recommended me to a repair shop just nearby. Just by that open space where Buenos Aires meets Uruguaiana there are these so called boxes with plenty of small stores inside and most of them seems to focus on cellphone repairs as well as computer repairs and I also saw repair shops for watches.

I got to the shop that was recommended to me and they said that they could fix my phone for 100 Reais and that it would take 40 minutes or up to 1 hour. One guy left the shop and in 5 minutes he was back with the screen to my phone and he started to work on it. He really took my phone apart completely and I could see him in action, working with my phone. And in 30 minutes he finished his job and I got my phone back in perfectly working condition. What a joy, to get the phone back with all the important information right there. Such a good service to be able to get a phone repair on the spot and for such a reasonable price as 100 Reais.

I mention all this because I think it can be valuable information for any other of you guys, if you will need to get a broken phone fixed fast and efficiently and to a good price. I was really impressed with how smooth the repair went, and how fast it was done. A phone with the contacts to the garotas is something very vital and even just one day without it feels like the sky just fell down on you. Google didn't help me much in pointing me in the right direction but what I discovered is that the repair shops inside the boxes in Uruguaiana is where to go for efficient phone repairs.[/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks!

Santos Dumont is the domestic airport so this does not apply to most readers, except those coming from Sao Paulo perhaps.

In SDU you can get an outbound Uber by walking through the entire arrivals area to what is called the Bossa Nova Malll (also called Aero Mall), which is literally adjacent to the airport. Just there on the ground level is a designated Uber pick up area with Uber employees hovering around to help and all.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1954102]Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.[/QUOTE]When I arrived from Europe last week it was close to 22:00 hs and after clearing customs the time was just after 22:30. I was quoted 92 reais with the case being "this is the best price at this hour". I balked and walked to the bus. A cool 16 reais to Copacabana.

Some misinformation is given in the forum about taxi fares and double fares on weekends.

Saturday (partly) and Sundays are Bandeira 2. Bandeira 2 is not double fare, it's only 20% more.

Bandeira 1: Monday-Saturday, 6.00-21.00.
Bandeira 2: Monday-Saturday, 21.00-6.00 and Sundays.
Exceptions on some holidays (Carnival, New Year etc).

If you want to know the taxi fare, check out:
[URL]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
It gives you a good idea what to expect.

[URL]http://www.rio.rj.gov.br/web/smtr/exibeconteudo?article-id=1776544[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1954547]Some misinformation is given in the forum about taxi fares and double fares on weekends.

Saturday (partly) and Sundays are Bandeira 2. Bandeira 2 is not double fare, it's only 20% more.

Bandeira 1: Monday-Saturday, 6.00-21.00.
Bandeira 2: Monday-Saturday, 21.00-6.00 and Sundays.
Exceptions on some holidays (Carnival, New Year etc).

If you want to know the taxi fare, check out:
[URL]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
It gives you a good idea what to expect.

[URL]http://www.rio.rj.gov.br/web/smtr/exibeconteudo?article-id=1776544[/URL][/QUOTE]Plus the entire month of December is Bandeira 2 (=holiday pay).

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1954464]Great info. Thanks![/QUOTE]Good that you found my post useful. I thought so too, that my experience was worth sharing, because a working cellphone is probably the number one tool for mongering and when it breaks down one has to find a solution fast! And it is so much better to have it repaired on the spot than to have to send it away for service until one or some more days later.

The repair shop that helped me is called "Ananias Virtual Games" and they are at the Mercado Popular Uruguiana, Quadra "A" Box 108 ao 110, and it is just in the corner of Rua Uruguiana and Rua Buenos Aires. My one time experience of them was good so I might as well recommend them:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/consertos.ananias/[/URL]

When clicking on the map it doesn't show the correct location and the map seems messed up. But when coming out of the metro on Uruguiana they are basically just one minute away.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1954620]Good that you found my post useful. I thought so too, that my experience was worth sharing, because a working cellphone is probably the number one tool for mongering and when it breaks down one has to find a solution fast! And it is so much better to have it repaired on the spot than to have to send it away for service until one or some more days later.

The repair shop that helped me is called "Ananias Virtual Games" and they are at the Mercado Popular Uruguiana, Quadra "A" Box 108 ao 110, and it is just in the corner of Rua Uruguiana and Rua Buenos Aires. My one time experience of them was good so I might as well recommend them:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/consertos.ananias/[/URL]

When clicking on the map it doesn't show the correct location and the map seems messed up. But when coming out of the metro on Uruguiana they are basically just one minute away.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro! I have a few broken cell phones here at home. Sounds like repair costs in Brazil are a fraction of US costs. I think I'll bring them with me on my next trip, get them repaired there, then bring them back home ready to sell. Hopefully it will put a few bucks in my pocket. Maybe pay for a terma visit or something. Haha! Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1954630]Thanks bro! I have a few broken cell phones here at home. Sounds like repair costs in Brazil are a fraction of US costs. I think I'll bring them with me on my next trip, get them repaired there, then bring them back home ready to sell. Hopefully it will put a few bucks in my pocket. Maybe pay for a terma visit or something. Haha! Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Good luck with your cellphones! If you will have the same positive experience as I had it will most likely be worth it and it could pay for a terma visit or something like that. It will be worth a try!

Planning my next trip in a few months will be arriving into Santo Dumont airport like my last trip choosing to stay more in Centro closer to the Lapa district, read that there now is a VLT train leaving from the airport into Centro. I do remember seeing work being done on the tracks, have anyone use this new service and the cost.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bearyc;1953821]And not sure I figured out the best area to stay.

Is it even possible to be centrally located within walking distance of enough establishments that I could be entertained for 3 weeks??[/QUOTE]

Anyway, because I am caring and nice:

Stay somewhere in Flamengo, Botafogo, Copacbana, or even Ipanema that is close (1-2 blocks) to a Metro station. The Metro will get you within walking distance of enough establishments.

(I didn't add other areas covered by the metro for various reasons, which I will not detail at this point).

[QUOTE=Sperto;1954547]Some misinformation is given in the forum about taxi fares and double fares on weekends.

Saturday (partly) and Sundays are Bandeira 2. Bandeira 2 is not double fare, it's only 20% more.

Bandeira 1: Monday-Saturday, 6.00-21.00.
Bandeira 2: Monday-Saturday, 21.00-6.00 and Sundays.
Exceptions on some holidays (Carnival, New Year etc).

If you want to know the taxi fare, check out:
[URL]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
It gives you a good idea what to expect.

[URL]http://www.rio.rj.gov.br/web/smtr/exibeconteudo?article-id=1776544[/URL][/QUOTE]Excuse my double the fare quote, I knew that it was more.

My double comment came from me paying $R10 from posto 6 to Mabs during the week and $R20 on the weekend. Maybe it just worked out to that because it was a short trip.

[QUOTE=Exuma Stealth;1954683]Planning my next trip in a few months will be arriving into Santo Dumont airport like my last trip choosing to stay more in Centro closer to the Lapa district, read that there now is a VLT train leaving from the airport into Centro. I do remember seeing work being done on the tracks, have anyone use this new service and the cost.[/QUOTE]
You can add a cost of R$3,8 to your planning.

On my way to and from Amazonas for work, I made some stops in Rio. First visit was not much more than 24 hours and I made the most of it. On a Monday afternoon about 5 PM went to Monte Carlo where I was one of just two guys. About a dozen girls there and most were very attractive by my taste and very friendly, too. Slowly worked my way through the room chatting with each girl, all the while noticing two cute girls waiting their turn over by the bar. Kelly was a petite morena spinner with a tight body and a great smile. Mia was similar but with long dark hair and ample natural tits. Both were fun and sexy, and a dupla was tempting, but I didn't have the juice and went with Kelly for an hour. Fun as hell, enthusiastic, flawless skin with no tattoos, perfect ass, you could bounce a quarter off any part of her tight all natural body, and overall excellent GFE performance. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. In chatting with her afterwards, the interesting punchline was that she was forty years old. My vision isn't as sharp as it used to be, but I ain't blind. When I entered the boate and then when I left, she was hands down the youngest looking girl in the room. Fucking amazing. She showed me a picture of her seventeen year old daughter, and I had to keep my cool and be polite as she was as hot as her mom.

Before my afternoon flight the next day, I had a few hours on a Tuesday morning and went to Onix Terapias at Rio Branco 185, sala 2104, where I had made a reservation with Natalia who had good reviews on a local forum and looked cute on their website. Pretty, gorgeous long silky black hair, nice body, and very good GFE. Had a great time with her. 170 reais for the hour.

After two weeks working near Manaus, went back to Monte Carlo for a potential repeat with Kelly. She wasn't working on a Tuesday about 8:30 PM, but the place that night was, by my standards, an adult Disneyland with maybe 20 to 25 girls, many of whom were very attractive. The mood was great, and the girls were very friendly. Six or seven were smoking hot, making for a tough choice. Chatted with a bunch and was completely smitten with Camila, a morena spinner who was simply one of my all time dream girls in looks and personality. Fucking gorgeous from head to toe and one of the best GFE experiences I've ever had. Drop dead natural, well toned body with small perky tits and a perfect ass, beautiful face and smile, cute hair style, and a dynamo in bed with superb BBBJ, DATY, DFK, and all sorts of positions. She knew how to play sweet and sexy probably better than any girl I've been with, and it was an unforgettable hour. I'm still speechless.

Wednesday afternoon went to Delirio on Hilario de Gouvea 66, sala 201. Pretty impressive lineup of about a dozen girls, about half of whom were very much to my liking. I knew that Camila had sort of ruined me for a while in the expectation department, but I had a good time with Renata who was beautiful and sexy. 200 reais for the hour. Only negative was that I had to wait about 20 minutes for a room with a bed, and the rooms there can be pretty small. Really cute secretary though.

Last blast on a Thursday afternoon went to Green Therapy, on 13 de Maio 33, sala 2403, to repeat with Mel who I had met in August. Another awesome performance and equally amazing the second time around. 170 reais for the hour.

As usual, loads of eye candy on the streets and at the beach. In addition to the great scenery, the happy vibe, and the easy transportation, with just a little research, a little patience, some basic Portuguese, and overall not a whole lot of effort, it's pretty damn easy to have consistently great experiences in Rio's mongering world.

Can anyone please shed some light on the visa waiver British passport holders have. I stayed in Brazil for 109 days (entry stamp was in late February, exit stamp early June). Since you're allowed just 90 days at the beginning it was extended to a date in late June at a policia federal extrangeiros building. Since I left in early June I didn't not use the whole extension as as I mentioned I stayed a total of 109 days out of a possible 180 in a year. But since it was extended can I return at all this year? Would I receive 71 days or would it be less than that and based on the extension's expiry date. I've tried calling the embassy with no luck, the consulate's number in london just doesn't work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll add a different pic of a woman I met at that pick up bar by the hotel for inspiration. Very long report in Manaus Brazil will be finished soon, seems a very underestimated place.

Just like to know if I'm traveling with the old passport with valid visa and new passport. Is there any issues on arrival at the immigration. Any of you guys have the same experience. Please let me know.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1957135]Can anyone please shed some light on the visa waiver British passport holders have. I stayed in Brazil for 109 days (entry stamp was in late February, exit stamp early June). Since you're allowed just 90 days at the beginning it was extended to a date in late June at a policia federal extrangeiros building. Since I left in early June I didn't not use the whole extension as as I mentioned I stayed a total of 109 days out of a possible 180 in a year. But since it was extended can I return at all this year? Would I receive 71 days or would it be less than that and based on the extension's expiry date. I've tried calling the embassy with no luck, the consulate's number in london just doesn't work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll add a different pic of a woman I met at that pick up bar by the hotel for inspiration. Very long report in Manaus Brazil will be finished soon, seems a very underestimated place.[/QUOTE]When you plan to go to Brazil?

You can come back and use your other days or you can wait till early December and use another six months. , you went to Brazil late February so if you go to Brazil early December after 71 days it is late February so automatically you can stay 19 additional days and then you can ask another three months because your last arrival date (late February), also you stayed six months outside Brazil.

Conclusion: come now and use your remaining days or wait till early December to have 90 days and 90 day extension (180 days) you have 180 days per year the first arrival date is important so you can use your days in many times.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1957189]Just like to know if I'm traveling with the old passport with valid visa and new passport. Is there any issues on arrival at the immigration. Any of you guys have the same experience. Please let me know.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been there done that several times. No problems at all. At least not in the last 19 years. But Brasil is Brasil and they may have changed since the World Cup and Olympics.

Hi Guys.

Can someone please guide when is it the best time to visit Rio / Sau Paulo with a mongering perspective. Preferring to travel during the new year which is the last week of Dec and first week of Jan.

Though mongering is priority tourism and related activities are also on the cards. Seniors please guide.

Regards.

The.

[QUOTE=CitizenD;1957476]Hi Guys.

Can someone please guide when is it the best time to visit Rio / Sau Paulo with a mongering perspective. Preferring to travel during the new year which is the last week of Dec and first week of Jan.

Though mongering is priority tourism and related activities are also on the cards. Seniors please guide.

Regards.

The.[/QUOTE]I am a Rio regular and love the city and benefits. You should be aware that all accommodation is at very inflated rates around NYE, so be prepared to pay up if you go to Rio. Having said that Rio at NYE is very impressive.

For mongering you will find that many venues will be closed for at least part of your stay if you go around NYE.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1957225]Been there done that several times. No problems at all. At least not in the last 19 years. But Brasil is Brasil and they may have changed since the World Cup and Olympics.[/QUOTE]This process is still good now, just did it, show both passports and you will be ok.

Been following some of the reports from Rio and no one ever mentions any type of GFE experience is it not happening or people just not going into details.

We hear about going to the brothels and privies but after your session seems like everyone just go back to their room and hideout until they in the mood again.

No stories about taking GDP's to the beach, lunch, dinner, a bar, a club, walking the Mar, invited to barbecue etc, everything that made Rio great. Some of you all make it sound boring.

Seems like its no social aspect anymore. Go to this brothel, that brothel back to the room, this privy, that privy back to the room.

We be clubbing!

I know its been said that the glory days won't return until a "Help" type club returns, and if we sit back and wait for it that might not ever happen.

Solution:

How about finding out what regular clubs most GDP's hang out at when they go out with friends, us gringos pick a club and make that club the club we go to when we come to Rio. It will take some time but over time the word will get out, this is where the gringos come to party. "If we build it, they will come". Again we can't keep waiting for someone to do something when we can do it ourselves.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1957713]Been following some of the reports from Rio and no one ever mentions any type of GFE experience is it not happening or people just not going into details.

We hear about going to the brothels and privies but after your session seems like everyone just go back to their room and hideout until they in the mood again.

No stories about taking GDP's to the beach, lunch, dinner, a bar, a club, walking the Mar, invited to barbecue etc, everything that made Rio great. Some of you all make it sound boring.

Seems like its no social aspect anymore. Go to this brothel, that brothel back to the room, this privy, that privy back to the room.

We be clubbing!

I know its been said that the glory days won't return until a "Help" type club returns, and if we sit back and wait for it that might not ever happen.

Solution:

How about finding out what regular clubs most GDP's hang out at when they go out with friends, us gringos pick a club and make that club the club we go to when we come to Rio. It will take some time but over time the word will get out, this is where the gringos come to party. "If we build it, they will come". Again we can't keep waiting for someone to do something when we can do it ourselves.[/QUOTE]I have been around the world and Brazilian women offer the best GFE out of all the countries I have been too. The mongering scene as far as Gringos go is kinda dead. Its not like the late 90's and early 2000's. I went last year and Gringo spots like Mabs are pretty much dead. Not a lot of gringos come to Brazil like before because Brazil is much more expensive, so the women are not going to come out like that. Only the hardcore ones. All the action is in the Termas like the 4 x 4.

As far as Non-Pros go, you can go to regular Brazilian hangout club spots but Portuguese is a must and also regular girls do not want to be seen in public with a gringo because most people would assume she is a prostitute.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1957713]Been following some of the reports from Rio and no one ever mentions any type of GFE experience is it not happening or people just not going into details.

We hear about going to the brothels and privies but after your session seems like everyone just go back to their room and hideout until they in the mood again.

No stories about taking GDP's to the beach, lunch, dinner, a bar, a club, walking the Mar, invited to barbecue etc, everything that made Rio great. Some of you all make it sound boring.

Seems like its no social aspect anymore. Go to this brothel, that brothel back to the room, this privy, that privy back to the room.

We be clubbing!

I know its been said that the glory days won't return until a "Help" type club returns, and if we sit back and wait for it that might not ever happen.

Solution:

How about finding out what regular clubs most GDP's hang out at when they go out with friends, us gringos pick a club and make that club the club we go to when we come to Rio. It will take some time but over time the word will get out, this is where the gringos come to party. "If we build it, they will come". Again we can't keep waiting for someone to do something when we can do it ourselves.[/QUOTE]GDPs go everywhere other Cariocas go. Every blocco like the one near praca maua every Monday night.

I always do stuff w gdps if theyre cool but more so when theres a vibe beyond client / puta.

This will never change in Rio. Just like you stated, beach, food, Lapa etc etc.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1957713]No stories about taking GDP's to the beach, lunch, dinner, a bar, a club, walking the Mar, invited to barbecue etc, everything that made Rio great. Some of you all make it sound boring.
Seems like its no social aspect anymore. Go to this brothel, that brothel back to the room, this privy, that privy back to the room.[/QUOTE]
IMO, dinnerinvitations, churrasco, going to the beach or strolling hand in hand along the orla is reserved for regular girls.
Regular girls in a combination with GPs is my choice. After I finish a session in a privê, that chapter is over. Exceptions exists if the chemistry is very good, the GP is outstanding and there can be had freebies.

Regular girls in Brazil are easy and normally gives better sex than GPs. I would hate bringing a GP to cinema or a fancy restaurant, acting or no acting as BF/GF. All the locals knows that's a puta you brought with you.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1957189]Just like to know if I'm traveling with the old passport with valid visa and new passport. Is there any issues on arrival at the immigration. Any of you guys have the same experience. Please let me know.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Several of my friends and I have done this before with no problems. I will do it again in two weeks.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1957954]IMO, dinnerinvitations, churrasco, going to the beach or strolling hand in hand along the orla is reserved for regular girls.
Regular girls in a combination with GPs is my choice. After I finish a session in a priv, that chapter is over. Exceptions exists if the chemistry is very good, the GP is outstanding and there can be had freebies.

Regular girls in Brazil are easy and normally gives better sex than GPs. I would hate bringing a GP to cinema or a fancy restaurant, acting or no acting as BF/GF. All the locals knows that's a puta you brought with you.[/QUOTE]This is very true.

In the beginning when ones knows little or no portugues its easiest entry point but should change in line with growing command of language and cultural understanding and integration.

And yes, Sperto is correct-all the gringos who think theyre ballin and showin off their hot girl are deluded. Everyone knows what she is especially if dude doesn't speak portugues.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1957713]Been following some of the reports from Rio and no one ever mentions any type of GFE experience is it not happening or people just not going into details.

We hear about going to the brothels and privies but after your session seems like everyone just go back to their room and hideout until they in the mood again.

No stories about taking GDP's to the beach, lunch, dinner, a bar, a club, walking the Mar, invited to barbecue etc, everything that made Rio great. Some of you all make it sound boring.

Seems like its no social aspect anymore. Go to this brothel, that brothel back to the room, this privy, that privy back to the room.

We be clubbing!.[/QUOTE]You will be happy to know that this is still happening with the privy girls in Sao Paulo. I am still WhatApping with a girl from a privy. She told me she loves me. Yeah right is all I can say. But it works for me. All relationships are based on some sort of temporary BS. Puta or no puta. It may as well be my gringo wallet. But here is the problem. Tudo a' noite now a days is hell. Please, let me sleep and then I will be back the next day for a few more 3-sums.

BTW. What are the Termas girls costing these days? With an interactive 3-sum in Sao Paulo with two smoking hot GDPs going for 290 R and drinks are included. I don't know if I will ever be back to Rio? And you can't beat the Paulista look.

PS - eu estive estudar Portuguese desde 2010. Eu falar mias pior agora do que eu comacar. Eu acho que tenho que ficar com as putas...metade e nove amor?

OK so Help has gone, sad as it is. But are there not any bar / club type places to pick up WGs other than the termas and strip clubs? I enjoy the illusion of the chase! I remember reading about one such place around Copa but can't find it.

Thanks.

Tinder and google translate is a great way to line up civilians and sugar babies. Just swipe right until your thumb gives out. But be warned, you should go into each profile and make sure she's not a he. There are some gdps and 18-24 year old sugar babies (remember, nothing but drinks before test driving a sugar baby). As for regular girls, build rapport, switch to whatsapp and sweet talk them before you meet. Seduce, seduce, seduce before you meet. Give them the fantasy, the anticipation. But, for fuck's sake spend $120 for Pimsluer and spend 1/2 hour per day for a month to get some beginning language skills before you fly. And plan on staying for a while.

Also, be sure to meet them at the right time. Yesterday I had a date for 7 p, but I fucked it up and told her 17:00. She was there and I wasn't. Good thing about São Paulo is the endless supply of chicks.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1958083]Tinder and google translate is a great way to line up civilians and sugar babies. Just swipe right until your thumb gives out. But be warned, you should go into each profile and make sure she's not a he. There are some gdps and 18-24 year old sugar babies (remember, nothing but drinks before test driving a sugar baby). As for regular girls, build rapport, switch to whatsapp and sweet talk them before you meet. Seduce, seduce, seduce before you meet. Give them the fantasy, the anticipation. But, for fuck's sake spend $120 for Pimsluer and spend 1/2 hour per day for a month to get some beginning language skills before you fly. And plan on staying for a while.

Also, be sure to meet them at the right time. Yesterday I had a date for 7 p, but I fucked it up and told her 17:00. She was there and I wasn't. Good thing about So Paulo is the endless supply of chicks.[/QUOTE]I keep hearing about Tinder? Do they really have some good looking Brazil girls on Tinder?

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1958083]Tinder and google translate is a great way to line up civilians and sugar babies. Just swipe right until your thumb gives out. But be warned, you should go into each profile and make sure she's not a he. There are some gdps and 18-24 year old sugar babies (remember, nothing but drinks before test driving a sugar baby). As for regular girls, build rapport, switch to whatsapp and sweet talk them before you meet. Seduce, seduce, seduce before you meet. Give them the fantasy, the anticipation. But, for fuck's sake spend $120 for Pimsluer and spend 1/2 hour per day for a month to get some beginning language skills before you fly. And plan on staying for a while.

Also, be sure to meet them at the right time. Yesterday I had a date for 7 p, but I fucked it up and told her 17:00. She was there and I wasn't. Good thing about So Paulo is the endless supply of chicks.[/QUOTE]So, if it is that easy why are Ex-Pats who have lived and sometimes worked in Brazil for years still paying for it?

I have tried them all. I have got something out of all of them. My recommendation for the hobbyist is Semantica Portuguese. It teaches the language and the culture. You are introduced to MPB, the food and drinks, slang and even some of the establishments of Rio. There are a few lessons that they must have been thinking about the hobby. The only problem is that it is an online. Sit down in front of a computer kind of thing. I like Pimsular because I can listen to the lessons while driving in my car.

Look for a coupon code. I think I got a life membership for 75 $. There are lessons in Semantica that apply directly to what we do. It was created by an American who lives in Rio.

I have tried many, I like this one as a refresher if you already know a little. It breaks it down into subject matter allows you to focus on a certain topic, couple months before a trip I pull it out and go thru it.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1958262]I have tried them all. I have got something out of all of them. My recommendation for the hobbyist is Semantica Portuguese. It teaches the language and the culture. You are introduced to MPB, the food and drinks, slang and even some of the establishments of Rio. There are a few lessons that they must have been thinking about the hobby. The only problem is that it is an online. Sit down in front of a computer kind of thing. I like Pimsular because I can listen to the lessons while driving in my car.

Look for a coupon code. I think I got a life membership for 75 $. There are lessons in Semantica that apply directly to what we do. It was created by an American who lives in Rio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1957713]

How about finding out what regular clubs most GDP's hang out at when they go out with friends, us gringos pick a club and make that club the club we go to when we come to Rio. It will take some time but over time the word will get out, this is where the gringos come to party. "If we build it, they will come". Again we can't keep waiting for someone to do something when we can do it ourselves.[/QUOTE]Try hitting some of the hotel roof top bars like the Marriott or the Pestana, definitely GDP's are frequenting these places on the weekend.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1958227]So, if it is that easy why are Ex-Pats who have lived and sometimes worked in Brazil for years still paying for it?[/QUOTE]Never claimed it was easy, just another option if you want to go out with non-pros. Dating and seduction takes a lot of work. Some hamster wheels are easier to spin than others. Had a date with a woman 1/2 my age today. Because of the holidays she is off with her family for the next two weeks so I'll only see her a couple more time this trip. Without a doubt I will be visiting the clinicas. Yes, there are good looking girls available on tinder, but if I were here long term I'd still use GDP's because why wouldn't you? There is something to be said for the unencumbered life.

I'll be back in Rio soon. Hope to meet you this time.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1958414]Never claimed it was easy, just another option if you want to go out with non-pros. Dating and seduction takes a lot of work. Some hamster wheels are easier to spin than others. Had a date with a woman 1/2 my age today. Because of the holidays she is off with her family for the next two weeks so I'll only see her a couple more time this trip. Without a doubt I will be visiting the clinicas. Yes, there are good looking girls available on tinder, but if I were here long term I'd still use GDP's because why wouldn't you? There is something to be said for the unencumbered life.

I'll be back in Rio soon. Hope to meet you this time.[/QUOTE]Non-pros are easy in Brazil. Cupid is filled with hungry, lonely girls from 18 on up. In Rio and in Rio State and elsewhere in Brazil it even easier cause it aint Rio! LOL.

Its more backwards the further away from Rio you get.

Latin and Brazilcupid. Especially the former.

Tinder for sure is crammed with especially milfs. 30+ but I'm more on the 18 -24 age group myself being 46.

Half my age -twice the fun baby!

[QUOTE=RioBob;1958393]Try hitting some of the hotel roof top bars like the Marriott or the Pestana, definitely GDP's are frequenting these places on the weekend.[/QUOTE]Thanks for giving some suggestions.

Just looking up some regular clubs, has anyone been to Club Six (hip hop music) or Fosfobox if so what the setup and atmosphere in these spots, dance floor, seating, vip sections,ladies,etc.

Like I said we find a spot, we go on there on the regular and the ladies will come.

FWIW, my taxi ride with 2 "volumes" (suitcases) from GIG to Copa at 2 am earlier in the week (Bandeira 2) cost about BRL 83, and was closer to BRL 78 before the charge for each of the "volumes. " That's a common yellow taxi on the meter, taking the new tunnel thru cento to Aterro de Flamengo. The booths outside customs did not have the same Infocoop stand I've seen in other terminals, they were charging BRL 130. So I grabbed a taxi outside.

By comparison, sending a friend back from Copa to Duque de Caxias in Uber X cost about BRL 69 during the day with no surge pricing. But hey, Cartman is a nice guy.

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1958227]So, if it is that easy why are Ex-Pats who have lived and sometimes worked in Brazil for years still paying for it?[/QUOTE]Having gone down the tinder and brazilcupid roads, I must admit, it is pretty easy to get a Brazilian girl for free. However, as a long term expat, I would never want an ongoing relationship with a Brazilian girl. They are just too volatile and they have a tendency to tell gringos they're on the pill and suddenly get pregnant. It's not just the girls from the poorer areas who do this; middle and upper middle class girls are prone to the same tactics.

They also have a propensity to get super clingy and lose their minds if you want to go out for a beer with your male friends. It's suffocating.

As a result, a lot of guys opt to pay for play as it works out cheaper in the long run (especially if they're already married or otherwise committed).

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1958468]Thanks for giving some suggestions.

Just looking up some regular clubs, has anyone been to Club Six (hip hop music) or Fosfobox if so what the setup and atmosphere in these spots, dance floor, seating, vip sections,ladies,etc.

Like I said we find a spot, we go on there on the regular and the ladies will come.[/QUOTE]Fosfobox is more of an afterhours spot. Doesn't really get going until 1 or 2 and stays hopping until 6 or 7 am. No VIP, a bit of a claustrophobic dance area in the basement area, but full of pretty attractive 20 somethings. Starting to see a bit more chemical flavor in the Rio party scene, although the quality is nothing near Europe or the US. The ledges above the toilet paper dispensers in the stalls are generally covered in traces of blow.

Can be fun if you're into electronic music, but you're more likely to spend your night making out with some e'd up chick who then just wants to go home once she starts coming down.

Bukoswski bar in Botafogo has a lot of girls who're looking to get taken home, but the ratio runs a bit too high on the penis side for my tastes. A fun spot as has a big backyard.

Mirroir on the Lagoa is full of hot girls and a few working girls (all the big clubs in Barra also have a fair number of working girls). You can get a VIP table for about are $500.

Check timeout's rio page for special events in the city. The parties in Gamboa (Praca Maua), on Sugar Loaf, and at the Marina the Gloria tend to be really good and full of gorgeous girls.

Highly recommended to anyone looking for brains and beauty. Check out her video, obviously no photoshop in that.

Evaborges. [URL]tumblr.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1959571]Fosfobox is more of an afterhours spot. Doesn't really get going until 1 or 2 and stays hopping until 6 or 7 am. No VIP, a bit of a claustrophobic dance area in the basement area, but full of pretty attractive 20 somethings. Starting to see a bit more chemical flavor in the Rio party scene, although the quality is nothing near Europe or the US. The ledges above the toilet paper dispensers in the stalls are generally covered in traces of blow.

Can be fun if you're into electronic music, but you're more likely to spend your night making out with some e'd up chick who then just wants to go home once she starts coming down.

Bukoswski bar in Botafogo has a lot of girls who're looking to get taken home, but the ratio runs a bit too high on the penis side for my tastes. A fun spot as has a big backyard.

Mirroir on the Lagoa is full of hot girls and a few working girls (all the big clubs in Barra also have a fair number of working girls). You can get a VIP table for about are $500.

Check timeout's rio page for special events in the city. The parties in Gamboa (Praca Maua), on Sugar Loaf, and at the Marina the Gloria tend to be really good and full of gorgeous girls.[/QUOTE]I agree about Fosfobox. Its super claustrophobic, takes ages to buy drinks and they have that ticket system that's long. Alot of Molly, E,Ketamine, Coke etc. This is an electronic white want to be european crowd.

No point going to Brazil for that.

I think Bloccos like the one up the road from praca maua on a Monday has better girls by far. Both tight as sardines but bloccos got the mixture of girls and ages.

After settling in my hotel I decided my first stop would be Flavia's mgm located at are / be 156 #1838. I liked the pictures of Fernanda on their website. Her first pictures showed her nude body, now it shows her wearing lingerie. Anyways, I asked for the lineup and nothing to impressive and Fernanda came in last. Her body is very nice and her face was just okay. I took the 40 min. Option for are $120.00. With plenty of kissing and a very good BBBJ, felt like home again. Very passionate just like how I remembered most of my past sessions in Brazil. First stop, two thumbs up. After walking around centro a bit, I ended up at 4 x4. Must have been about 18:00 when I got there. I have to admit, I was underwhelmed with the talent that day. Usually I would find at least a couple of what I consider hot chicks. Today nothing. So I wait figuring maybe the one I'm waiting for is in session so I get a drink and sit at a table. One thing I do admit, I like it when the girls see new meat. They make there way in front of the table to make sure you get a good view of their goods. For me, that never gets old. Just as I'm ready to leave, I see a decent girl, not the hotest but still something about her. I think her name was Liliana or something like that. Blond hair and slim. We talk for a while and make out a good while, boy did I miss Brazil. Anyways we head on up. Took the are $330.00 for 40 minutes option. Now what's going on, the lady who gives out the keys and condoms asking for tips? First, I acted stupid and said I didn't understand. She picks up a note pad that said tip. I shook my head no. Is anyone actually paying a tip here? That kind of damper the mood at least until we got to the room. Did the usual, I shower while she gets her stuff. When she comes back, it is on Brazilian style. Non stop. Great kissing, great BBBJ, I DATY on her then she says she needs to lube up. I said I think you are wet enough, and she put the lube on, I just didn't really see where she lube up. Yes, she lube up her back side and she got on top of me and stuck me into her rear end. I'm not into the back door but I went with the flow and it felt good and tight. That's what so awesome about Brazil, in most other countries, the back door would be extra $$ but here, no big deal depending on the girl. The first session was good, the second was even better. I not sure if they changed policy but I think before at 4 x4 the entrance was waived if you session before 18:00. I'm sure I session around 19:00 but they did waive the entrance fee. So that was a good bonus. After the session, I was a little bit hungry, so I went to a little sandwich shop called Opus. It not Cervantes but still a good sandwich. For you guys in LOS Angeles, their sandwich is like a Felipe's sandwich without the dip. Only this place gives you a lot more beef. I think they are open until 23:00 on the weekdays.

I forgot to add in the general reports that in the past, when visiting Brazil, I would go hog wild the first few days and try to do as many girls that I could. Then near the end of vacation I would kind of peter out. This trip I kind of force myself to two sessions a day so I could be pretty consistent for the whole vacation. Today would be Bel Prazer day. Are / be 185 #2114. It was kind of funny, the elevator guy somehow remembered me. We said our hellos and when we got to floor 20, he pointed to the left and said remember you have to take the stairs up from here. I just smiled and thanked him. Kinda cool. I had two names from gpnet but none of those girls were there. The lineup was pretty weak until a girl, I think her name was Heloe or something like that. Very petite but with a very pretty face. The session was very good but couldn't believe how weak the remaining line up was. But then again, everyone has their own choice of what looks good to them. For the nightcap I went to Cancun. I got to say Hello, to Flavia the waitress who works down at the whiskeria. Very cool person and has been working there for a very long time. I told her since I was alone, I would be going upstairs and not the whiskeria. So upstairs, one of the receptionist remembered me. She asked if I remember the prices and I told her since it was so long ago that I was last here to remind me. She said it would be are $70.00 with compsumtion and the 40 minute session would be are $330.00. I get changed into my robe and go into the boite. It is about 16:00. I'm the only guy in the boite with about 10 girls hanging around. I get a drink and sit at a table. A lot of looks but nobody moving, the lineup, while not stunning, acceptable. After a while a slim girl comes over and introduces herself to me. Her name is Mel and my second look, she is very attractive. We talk a little and make out a bunch then head up to the room. At the place where we check in to get the keys, one of the cleaning ladies is there and she remembers me. We say Hello, with a little small talk then off to the room. Very very passionate session. It just seems like every session up to this point gets better. After the session I head on back to the boite to chill out a bit before going to the hotel. Now there are about 5 guys in the boite. Never have I seen it so empty in a terma. After a while Mel comes down and sits by me. I ask her if she wants something to drink and she said no. We converse a bit with me acting like I know what she is saying when most of the time I didn't. Then she asked if I still had money for consumption, I said yes and she asked if she could order something to eat. I said sure whatever you want. She order a grill cheese sandwich which she insisted that I eat half. It was actually pretty good. She then asked if we could go out for lunch tomorrow. I told her I was leaving for Foz tomorrow but I would be back on Oct. 31th and we can make arraignments then. From Cancun walking on Sete Septembro to are / be to catch the vlt, there were a lot of people out and about. Completely different from years past. Get to the hotel with a big smile on my face wondering why it took so long to come back to Brazil. Next day took the short walk to the airport and off to Foz.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;1959917]I forgot to add in the general reports that in the past, when visiting Brazil, I would go hog wild the first few days and try to do as many girls that I could. Then near the end of vacation I would kind of peter out. This trip I kind of force myself to two sessions a day so I could be pretty consistent for the whole vacation. Today would be Bel Prazer day. Are / be 185 #2114. It was kind of funny, the elevator guy somehow remembered me. We said our hellos and when we got to floor 20, he pointed to the left and said remember you have to take the stairs up from here. I just smiled and thanked him. Kinda cool. I had two names from gpnet but none of those girls were there. The lineup was pretty weak until a girl, I think her name was Heloe or something like that. Very petite but with a very pretty face. The session was very good but couldn't believe how weak the remaining line up was. But then again, everyone has their own choice of what looks good to them. For the nightcap I went to Cancun. I got to say Hello, to Flavia the waitress who works down at the whiskeria. Very cool person and has been working there for a very long time. I told her since I was alone, I would be going upstairs and not the whiskeria. So upstairs, one of the receptionist remembered me. She asked if I remember the prices and I told her since it was so long ago that I was last here to remind me. She said it would be are $70.00 with compsumtion and the 40 minute session would be are $330.00. I get changed into my robe and go into the boite. It is about 16:00. I'm the only guy in the boite with about 10 girls hanging around. I get a drink and sit at a table. A lot of looks but nobody moving, the lineup, while not stunning, acceptable. After a while a slim girl comes over and introduces herself to me..[/QUOTE]330 reais for one hour not 40 minutes the last time I went there the price was 330 reais 1 hour 300 reais 40 minutes.

Did they change the price again?

[QUOTE=Komo753;1959964]330 reais for one hour not 40 minutes the last time I went there the price was 330 reais 1 hour 300 reais 40 minutes.

Did they change the price again?[/QUOTE]This question is for QuackUp but in the meantime for him to answer I can tell what the the prices were when I was in Cancun just a few weeks ago. I hour was 330 Reais and 40 minutes was 310 (not 300 Reais). I don't know if they raised the prices just recently to 330 Reais for 40 minutes as QuackUp is saying. If they did, I wonder how much one hour is by now. I took a photo of the pricelist when I was there. The pricelist is by the counter upstairs where you sign in with the girl. See attached photo:

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;1960206]This question is for QuackUp but in the meantime for him to answer I can tell what the the prices were when I was in Cancun just a few weeks ago. I hour was 330 Reais and 40 minutes was 310 (not 300 Reais). I don't know if they raised the prices just recently to 330 Reais for 40 minutes as QuackUp is saying. If they did, I wonder how much one hour is by now. I took a photo of the pricelist when I was there. The pricelist is by the counter upstairs where you sign in with the girl. See attached photo:[/QUOTE]1 hour is 330,40 is 310. . Dude might have made a mistake writing or got ripped.

Good catch guys, I took her up for an hour and that is why it was are $330.00. I'm on such a high I can't read my notes to good.

Q.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;1959899]. Now what's going on, the lady who gives out the keys and condoms asking for tips? First, I acted stupid and said I didn't understand. She picks up a note pad that said tip. I shook my head no. Is anyone actually paying a tip here? That kind of damper the mood at least until we got to the room..[/QUOTE]The last time I was in 4 X4, every fucking body in the place wants a tip. The waitress in the boite, the girl who hands you a key and books your room, the girl who cleans the room and gives you towels, the girls who ring up your bill, even the security guard who takes your receipt before you leave asks for a damn tip!

It was super annoying to have to constantly say no to every one!

Wow, now I feel kind of lucky. It was only the lady who gave out the keys that asked for a tip. I always tip the locker room attendant but she never asked for a tip.

After some rnr in Floripa, made it back to Rio on Halloween for my last four days in Rio. Flew into Santos Dumont and walked over with suitcase to the vlt. Took the train and got off at Candalaria, crossed the two streets and check into the Windsor at the corner of Rio Branco and Presidente Vargas. Great location if you intend to monger in centro, but again not girl friendly after you register your first guest. After unpacking, first stop Centro star at are / be 156 #2622. Before going I had a list of three names that got good reviews, Jade, Dani and Brenda. In the presentation I saw Dani and Brenda, both looking good but then the last girl to come in was the best looking girl. I had to ask twice what her name was and both times it sounded like Ga-ji. I didn't recall seeing that name on the review board and even though she was definitely my type, I choose Dani. Warning with Dani, she is alot of fun and I can see why she gets excellent reviews but she told me she had her boobs done about two weeks ago. It didn't matter to me, I didn't play or lick with her boobs. Everything else was on point, but if you want to play with her boobs, you might want to wait a week or so. I took the 1 HR session and was are $170.00. When I finished the session, went back to the hotel to check my notes to see if I missed something with this girl named Ga- ji. I look at my notes, then it hits me, duh! It was jade, but because they pronounce words a little different and their the's are pronounce like g it had to be her. Looks like I will be going back tomorrow for Jade. It's about 18:30 so went to dinner. After dinner, went to Aeroporto. Once at reception, I see it the lady who used to work reception at 65. She remembers me and I ask her if there was a chance that 65 would open again. She said no. She shows me the price list but didn't write it down. I do remember it was are $80.00 entrance with comsumption. Get my bracelet and go to the locker room. This room looks the same, small and cramped, then go into the boite. Just one other guy in there with about 5 girls that were so so looking. Ordered a coke and chilled out hoping something good would appear. Nothing. I go to the upstairs bar, maybe three more girls up there. I have a seat and order a water. One of the three girls comes over and starts to talk with me. She is just okay looking but had a tight body. She told me this was her first day working at a place like this. Since I still had my comsumption, I got her a drink, which was juice. Wasn't sure if I wanted to session with her or go back to Cancun and meet up with Mel again, a sure good time. This girl name was Adrially (sp), and since she was new, I asked her if she likes to kiss. Without answering she leans over and starts to make out with me right there. Okay two thumbs up for that. We spent the next 10 minutes making out then I said lets go to the room. In the room her BBBJ was a little weak but still okay and everything else was top notch. I paid are $330.00 and in my notes I can't read if that was for 40 minutes or an hour, but off of memory, I think it was only for 40 minutes. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will provide that information. Taking the train back to the hotel, I decided to stop into 502 before going to the room. It's so close, about a block away from the hotel. When I spoke with reception about how much for a programa, I believe she said it was are $170.00 for half an hour. When I walked into the boite, maybe 6 girls total. Most, not to my liking but there was one really cute girl but of course she was with another customer. I get a coke and one by one the girls come over to introduce themselves. Another customer walks in so now there are three customers in the place. One really big girls comes over and introduces herself and she speaks perfect English. Not my taste and waited about half an hour hoping the cute girl would get freed up. Nothing doing so I left after that. Not sure if there was an entry fee or not but I paid are $20.00 and all I had was a coke. Walked to the hotel and called it a night.

First stop today, Cento star and a date with Jade. I get there around 13:00 and just asked for Jade instead of waiting for a lineup. Jade comes in and remembers me from the day before. IMHO, this is one pretty girl. Tall, slim and the dark skin morena body that I like. Only flaw, she still has stretch marks around the stomach, but that didn't bother me. Her session was one of the best. What I forgot to mention yesterday was that both Dani and Jade while they are on top, the get your bare dick within their pussy lipps and just start sliding up and down the shaft. They make sure it doesn't slip in but it sure did feel good. This session probably felt even better because of the fact of how good she looked. Paid the same as yesterday and I asked Jade if she would like to go to dinner with me tomorrow night. She told me she couldn't because it was her son's birthday and how about Thursday after work. I told her I was leaving on Thursday so would have to take a rain check. It would have been nice, but wasn't meant to be. I was really walking tall after this session. Next stop Mv30, but before that, I stopped for a sandwich at a place called Paladino. Are $10.00 for a good tasting sandwich and is very close to Mv30. Once at Mv30, here I go with my lousy notes again, I believe it was are $30 or are $35.00 for entrance. Are $170.00 for half an hour and are $230.00 for 45 minutes. This place was happening. Good crowd, good ration between guys and gals. Good music and no foreigners. There were at least three that I liked but all were occupied. Now in the back of my mind, I still wanted to go back to Cancun for a repeat with Mel, so if I don't hook up with one of the ones I like here, next stop Cancun. I get a drink and have a seat and just chilling having a good time soaking it all in. One girls sits by me and I tell her I'm waiting for a girl to get free. She asked which one, I told her the one in the next room near reception but I don't know her name. About 10 minutes later, this girls has the girl I want with her. She asked me, is this the one? I said yes and I thank her. The one I was waiting for is named Luna. I asked her wasn't she busy? She said yes and if I could wait a few minutes she should be freed up. Turns out, I waited a little over an hour and said forget it, time to go back to Cancun. Change my clothes and as I was paying, Luna sees me and says sorry it took so long. She asked could I stay, but since I was in my street clothes already, I told her I would come for her tomorrow. That's when I get the bad news. Tomorrow Nov. 2nd is a holiday and everything will be closed. I didn't see that one coming. I was mad at myself for not checking out the holidays before I left home. So I asked her what about Thursday? She said yes and I told her I would be back that day. Walk over to Cancun. What a difference, the party atmosphere at Mv30 did not carry with me to Cancun. At Cancun maybe 8 guys with about 20 girls with more of a mellow atmosphere. Waited just about an hour for Mel, but never saw her. Went to reception and they told me she wasn't working today. So I hang out a bit and some girls who I believe were in the whiskeria came into the boite. One slim blond girl caught my eye so called her over. Her name is Simone. Conversed a little and made out a lot in the boite. Up to the room we go. This chick was a tigress in the bed, I could hardly keep up with her. Good times for sure. Once back in the boite, I asked her since tomorrow was a holiday, would she like to have lunch or dinner with me and maybe playtime after. She said yes and gave me her whatsapp. I don't know what it was this trip but I kept screwing up. I entered her number into my phone but it wouldn't come up on whatsapp. I first thought she gave me a bogus number but when I got home it was me. Instead of putting 21 as the area code, I put in 11 the area code for Sao Paulo. I didn't even go there this trip. Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least before the holiday I ended up with a really good session. Since no plans for the holiday, that Wednesday, in the afternoon took the metro to copa beach and it looked like a weekend crowd. Had dinner up there then headed back to centro.

My flight out of Rio departs at 21:45 on United. So basically the day to get my final rounds in. In past trips 4 x4 was always my last stop before heading home and today the plan was no different. Hit a prive, mv30 then 4 x4 to end it. Again, nothing goes as planned. First stop, Local Zen, Av 13 De Mayo #2414, I had a list of two girls to see. The presentation was given and I didn't like any of them. So I asked if Bia or Gaby were working, the receptionist said no, so I said I might be back and left. Went back to are / be 185 #1722 Anitta msg. Rang the bell but no one answered. Walked down to #725 Bellas msg. , I had a list of three but when I rang, a cute girl answered. I walked in and she tells me all the girls were busy and to come back in 45 j minutes. This was around 13:15. I thought the lunch crowd would be done already, I guess not. I tried one more place, can't remember which one it was, but the presentation was weak so I left. Since it was now close to 14:00, I walked over to Mv30. Although they open at 14:00, it wasn't until after 15:00 it starts to get going. Waiting for Luna until 15:30 I said heck with it, I'll session now and if I see her later, I forgo 4 x4 and session with her then. I see a young blond girl and call her over. Her name is Stephanie. 18 years old from Floripa. I told her I was just there and one thing led to another and a great make out session in the boite. Now earlier I said how much I like this place, well, that was before we went to the room. The room was on the same floor as the boite just behind the door to get to the rooms. I don't think they ever change the sheets. At least like at Centro star, they bring out a new sheet. Then I see some bugs on the sheet. She saw them too and we killed a couple of them. Then we start to make out and she falls back onto the bed. I guess if she doesn't care, I'm game. Bugs or no bugs another great session. Paid are $230.00 for 45 minutes. After, chill out in the boite. If Luna shows up, I'll session with her, if I don't see her in the next 10 minutes off to 4 x4. That's when I see a very and I mean for my taste, a very pretty blond girl. She comes over with a smile and is all bubbly. Between her and Jade from Centro star, these were the best looking girls that I sessioned with. Okay, I guess I break tradition and not end my trip at 4 x4. Anyways, Mv30 reminded me of the first time I went to 4 x4, people making out all over the place, that's what I saw here. I was no different. Her name is Anita and wow is all I can say. The session was a great session to leave with. She gave me her whatsapp and we talk every once in a while since I have been back. Left Mv30 around 18:45, stopped at Paladino to pick up a sandwich to eat at the airport. Because it was getting a little late I took a cab from the hotel to the airport. Cost are $60.00. Didn't matter, I was on such a high, nothing was going to bring me down. Almost forgot, as I was leaving Mv30, walking down the stairs, who is walking in? Luna, the girl I was waiting for. I told her I was waiting since 14:00 but now had to catch a plane. She apologized and said hopefully next time we can get together.

I heard this upcoming Tuesday is a holiday in Brazil. Do you guys know if MC or Solarium will be open on Tuesday?

Thanks.

Hi brothers,

I will be travelling solo in Rio from mid December to Early January. I have read the forum and have shortlisted places I would like to visit. Termas MC, Termas Cancun, 4 X 4. Now I don't speak Portuguese and pretty much stand out as a Gringo.

I really want to visit the low tier Termas in Centro and the Trash areas. Any safety precautions I should keep in mind or should I just stick to the costlier termas. I am not rich BTW.

Also, I have tracked few GP from gparena. Is it safe to have them over at one's hotel or is it an invitation to be being scammed?

Any kind folk, please help me out to plan better and I will pass the goodness around.

[QUOTE=GlobalFucker;1962394]Hi brothers,

I will be travelling solo in Rio from mid December to Early January. I have read the forum and have shortlisted places I would like to visit. Termas MC, Termas Cancun, 4 X 4. Now I don't speak Portuguese and pretty much stand out as a Gringo.

I really want to visit the low tier Termas in Centro and the Trash areas. Any safety precautions I should keep in mind or should I just stick to the costlier termas. I am not rich BTW.

Also, I have tracked few GP from gparena. Is it safe to have them over at one's hotel or is it an invitation to be being scammed?

Any kind folk, please help me out to plan better and I will pass the goodness around.[/QUOTE]The girls might speak more English in the places you identified but in general its low level. Go where ever you want to go. Some lower tiers will have no gringos so it depends on you as a person. Some are fine, some are intimidated.

Trash areas with no portugues will guarantee some inflated prices and getting hustled at times but its all a learning curve.You know VM for 1 hour shdnt be more than 130...half hour 50/60 etc roughly.
Prices are listed in T31 etc and MC,4 x4 etc u can see prices......dont tip everybody..maybe cloakroom lady in MC! shes great. f the rest

Check your hotel is GF. Got to book for 2 upfront. Etc. Bring them over. Lock your shit in the safe. Usual safety precautions.

Those of you who arrived in Galeão the last 1-2 months, when you passed the customs with your bags, did all the passengers have their bags x-rayed?

I know they used to examine random passengers who got a red light when pressing a button. A few times I've seen them x-ray random passengers bags. However the last years I've only seen one custom guy around not checking nobody at all.

I'm curious if they have changed their routines and starting to x-ray all the bags of the arriving passengers ( a rumour I heard)? I'm not bringing anything illegally, just too much of some stuff that's being limited to a low amount.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1962912]Those of you who arrived in Galeo the last 1-2 months, when you passed the customs with your bags, did all the passengers have their bags x-rayed?

I know they used to examine random passengers who got a red light when pressing a button. A few times I've seen them x-ray random passengers bags. However the last years I've only seen one custom guy around not checking nobody at all.

I'm curious if they have changed their routines and starting to x-ray all the bags of the arriving passengers ( a rumour I heard)? I'm not bringing anything illegally, just too much of some stuff that's being limited to a low amount.[/QUOTE]The last few times I've flown internationally, every Brazilian or foreigner with permanent residence like myself travelling with large bags has had to go through the x-ray. Customs is looking to up their revenue stream by taxing the electronics Brazilians typically purchase abroad. If you're bringing electronics or "gifts" into the country, just make sure everything is out of the box.

Last week, almost 500 military police in the state of Rio were assigned to traffic duty with the mandate to issue fines for all traffic violations. The state and municipality are broke; they are doing everything in their power to generate revenues, even though their solutions generate pretty paltry sums relative to the current fiscal needs.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1962947]The last few times I've flown internationally, every Brazilian or foreigner with permanent residence like myself travelling with large bags has had to go through the x-ray. Customs is looking to up their revenue stream by taxing the electronics Brazilians typically purchase abroad. If you're bringing electronics or "gifts" into the country, just make sure everything is out of the box.

Last week, almost 500 military police in the state of Rio were assigned to traffic duty with the mandate to issue fines for all traffic violations. The state and municipality are broke; they are doing everything in their power to generate revenues, even though their solutions generate pretty paltry sums relative to the current fiscal needs.[/QUOTE]If you do have a lot of electronics or cell phones (for your favorite girls) - book a connection via Sao Paulo. The last few times I entered Brazil in Sao Paulo (GRU Airport) there was no customs control whatsoever. No X-ray machines, no button to push, no-one in uniform to even stand there to scan the crowds.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1962947]The last few times I've flown internationally, every Brazilian or foreigner with permanent residence like myself travelling with large bags has had to go through the x-ray. Customs is looking to up their revenue stream by taxing the electronics Brazilians typically purchase abroad. If you're bringing electronics or "gifts" into the country, just make sure everything is out of the box.

Last week, almost 500 military police in the state of Rio were assigned to traffic duty with the mandate to issue fines for all traffic violations. The state and municipality are broke; they are doing everything in their power to generate revenues, even though their solutions generate pretty paltry sums relative to the current fiscal needs.[/QUOTE]I think BackDoorD might be correct. I just came through customs on Tuesday with two large suitcases. I was sent to the X-ray machine. It did appear that all the people at the X-ray machine had many bags.

Also, people in front of me with little luggage were waved on through.

I had many electronics in my luggage but I was not questioned. They X-rayed my luggage and sent me on through.

Need the advice of Rio experts.

I had a good friend (not a working girl) who wanted to get her tourist visa to visit America. She owns a home and has a job. She asked if she could use my name when she went to the embassy and I agreed. I told her that she should probably go to Rio because it was much easier to get a visa in rio than it is in sao paolo. (I know former help girls who never had a regular job in their lives and they all got visas in rio.) Meanwhile, I know a few professionals, one even being a emergency room doctor who all got denied in Sao Paolo.

Well, in typical brasilian women fashion, she ignored my advice and went to SP for her interview. She just called me in tears because she was denied. They didn't give her a reason, they just denied her. Now she wants to know what she can do, if she should try going to rio now. I told her I was pretty sure that once you get denied, you are fucked. You can forget about getting a tourist visa now.

Is there any one from the board who knows if that is the case? CCn you still get a tourist visa after you have been denied?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1962912]Those of you who arrived in Galeo the last 1-2 months, when you passed the customs with your bags, did all the passengers have their bags x-rayed?

I know they used to examine random passengers who got a red light when pressing a button. A few times I've seen them x-ray random passengers bags. However the last years I've only seen one custom guy around not checking nobody at all.

I'm curious if they have changed their routines and starting to x-ray all the bags of the arriving passengers ( a rumour I heard)? I'm not bringing anything illegally, just too much of some stuff that's being limited to a low amount.[/QUOTE]When they were remodeling the airport I was given a behind the scenes tour. The plan was that all the bags would be x-ray as they came off the planes and passengers with suspicious bags identified. They actually tested this and found it unworkable. What would happen is you would be waiting for your bag and an agent would come up to you and tell you your bag was in another area. Customs deemed it more trouble that it was worth and went back to the you seem to have a lot of stuff method.

BTW, there is a separate location off the airport where they take commercial cargo that did not pass inspection as well as items confiscated from passengers. There they post the legal notices and it is auctioned or stolen as the case may be.

[QUOTE=GlobalFucker;1962394]Hi brothers,

I will be travelling solo in Rio from mid December to Early January. I have read the forum and have shortlisted places I would like to visit. Termas MC, Termas Cancun, 4 X 4. Now I don't speak Portuguese and pretty much stand out as a Gringo.

I really want to visit the low tier Termas in Centro and the Trash areas. Any safety precautions I should keep in mind or should I just stick to the costlier termas. I am not rich BTW.

Also, I have tracked few GP from gparena. Is it safe to have them over at one's hotel or is it an invitation to be being scammed?

Any kind folk, please help me out to plan better and I will pass the goodness around.[/QUOTE]The best thing to do is finding a wingman who knows Rio.

This [B]inflation[/B]. [I]Will it ever stop, yo I don't know. Turn off the lights, and I'll glow.[/I].

Went to 4 x4 yesterday and they raised the prices another [NOPARSE]R$10[/NOPARSE] just for the heck of it. New prices:
[LIST]R$50 entrance - unchanged. Waived if sessioning before 6 pm.[/LIST][LIST]R$340 for 40 minutes[/LIST][LIST]R$360 for 60 minutes[/LIST]

[QUOTE=GlobalFucker;1962394]Hi brothers,

I will be travelling solo in Rio from mid December to Early January.
Any kind folk, please help me out to plan better and I will pass the goodness around.[/QUOTE]I have just returned from a very long trip using a lot of FF miles. I was in Rio for the Olympics and then using the great options United has for flying to Asia via Europe I went to Germany then Thailand.

Thanks to Sperto I became a Centro Prive devotee. They are great.

My favorite is Vital Space Therapise on Pres Vargas 482 Room 1514. The girls there are all great and I did them all. Not one bad experience. My personal favorite is Gisele.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=gisele[/URL]

Another place returned many times was.

[URL]www.espacomentecorpo.com/[/URL]

All great performers.

If you find yourself down in Barra the Tijuca where the Olympic venues were (take the new metro) about 100 yards from the metro station is a building that houses two Prives I liked:

[URL]www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br/[/URL]

Use this website to read great TDs.

[URL]https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=https://forumx.com.br/&prev=search[/URL]

Don't worry about speaking Portuguese. They don't care. I used google translate everywhere. Great thing about having Tmobile here in US is they give you unlimited data in Rio with 4 g in many places 3 G the rest.

[QUOTE=GlobalFucker;1962394]Hi brothers,

I will be travelling solo in Rio from mid December to Early January. I have read the forum and have shortlisted places I would like to visit. Termas MC, Termas Cancun, 4 X 4. Now I don't speak Portuguese and pretty much stand out as a Gringo.

I really want to visit the low tier Termas in Centro and the Trash areas. Any safety precautions I should keep in mind or should I just stick to the costlier termas. I am not rich BTW.

Also, I have tracked few GP from gparena. Is it safe to have them over at one's hotel or is it an invitation to be being scammed?

Any kind folk, please help me out to plan better and I will pass the goodness around.[/QUOTE]The girls on hotside and all those who have a fair number of reviews (rather than GP arena, I would recommend [URL]forumx.com.br[/URL] as it is especially reliable, especially for girls in the BRL 150-250 price range). As long as your apartment / hotel is girl friendly, you should be OK with the girls. The worst thing a Brazilian can be is a thief; it's considered extremely low class. More of a risk when getting take out from somewhere like Mabs.

You'll be fine in any of the 2nd tier termas in centro (MV 30 and the like) as well as the prives anywhere in the city. VM is probably not the best idea if you're solo and don't speak any portuguese.

Hello all,

I will be visiting Rio around January 11th for a week. I have been to Rio 5 times but. Not in the past 7 years. I was thinking about staying in South Beach (hotel) in Copacabana. I want to visit Centaurus. (Was my favorite term in Rio).

Is anyone going to be there during that week that would like to hang out?

Is there any recommendations for a Hotel similar to South Beach in Ipanema?

Is the WhatsUp used a lot in Rio. Can you connect with them in the States? Wanted to know so that I could set something up before I got there.

I will start with Hotside and see if I can set up something up before I get there.

Any recommendations for places to go while I am there or how to set something up with a girl before I get there?

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1963564] VM is probably not the best idea if you're solo and don't speak any portuguese.[/QUOTE]Why do you say that? Not to start a debate, but I don't see those as being a reason not to go. Although I can speak passable Portuguese, all of the times I have been there, I almost never need to speak to anybody. Just get out of the taxi, bus or train, walk around, choose what you like, ask how much, pay it and go upstairs (although it took me years to finally session with a chick there, but that's another subject, LOL). Not much Portuguese needed for that IMHO. As far as going solo, if you follow the route and take normal precautions, you should be good (always a possibility of something going wrong). I would suggest that a newbie go during daylight (if you're not comfortable traveling at night) so you can see where you are going better and get acclimated to the area.

It took me a few years (sometime in the mid to late 2000's) to finally make the trek to VM, due to the negative things that was said about the place. My buddies who checked it out before me made it sound like the worst place ever (just mentioning it made them cringe, LOL), took me a while mostly because I was busy with other things, but I finally said screw it, took a train (following instructions from these sites) and went solo. I've been going solo since and never saw anything to cause me any concern about returning.

Of course speaking Portuguese and having a road dog is always better, but don't let the lack of those things stop you. Do your research of how to get in and out of there and you should be fine IMHO. I'm sure Backdoor and other vets have better experience than me, but I'm just basing this on my experience and observations over the years.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1958468]Thanks for giving some suggestions.

Just looking up some regular clubs, has anyone been to Club Six (hip hop music) or Fosfobox if so what the setup and atmosphere in these spots, dance floor, seating, vip sections,ladies,etc.

Like I said we find a spot, we go on there on the regular and the ladies will come.[/QUOTE]I've been to Club Six it was some years ago. It was OK. There were, if I remember correctly, three floors, different music on each one. Some pretty girls, mostly in their early twenties. My friends didn't really like the place, said it was too much work trying to pick up a girl. Expect long lines outside, but interestingly enough when they found out we were American security let us in first!

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1958468]Thanks for giving some suggestions.

Just looking up some regular clubs, has anyone been to Club Six (hip hop music) or Fosfobox if so what the setup and atmosphere in these spots, dance floor, seating, vip sections,ladies,etc.

Like I said we find a spot, we go on there on the regular and the ladies will come.[/QUOTE]I've been to Club Six it was some years ago. It was OK. There were, if I remember correctly, three floors, different music on each one. Some pretty girls, mostly in their early twenties. My friends didn't really like the place, said it was too much work trying to pick up a girl. Expect long lines outside, but interestingly enough when they found out we were American security let us in first!

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1963552]I have just returned from a very long trip using a lot of FF miles. I was in Rio for the Olympics and then using the great options United has for flying to Asia via Europe I went to Germany then Thailand.

Thanks to Sperto I became a Centro Prive devotee. They are great.

My favorite is Vital Space Therapise on Pres Vargas 482 Room 1514. The girls there are all great and I did them all. Not one bad experience. My personal favorite is Gisele..[/QUOTE]Really good info especially for guys looking to make their first trip. Thanks!

About Thailand, a little travel tip. It is one of the top destinations in the world, especially from Europe, but it is not the final destination. In talking with a number of hotel operators in Bangkok, I found out many people stay only one night because the fares connecting through Bangkok were cheap. If you are planning a trip to another SE Asia destination always check the routing through Bangkok.

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1963426]This [B]inflation[/B]. [I]Will it ever stop, yo I don't know. Turn off the lights, and I'll glow.[/I].

Went to 4 x4 yesterday and they raised the prices another [NOPARSE]R$10[/NOPARSE] just for the heck of it. New prices:
[LIST]R$50 entrance - unchanged. Waived if sessioning before 6 pm.[/LIST][LIST]R$340 for 40 minutes[/LIST][LIST]R$360 for 60 minutes[/LIST][/QUOTE]I haven't been to 4 x 4 for a long time, the only termas with robe that are still good for me are Cancun and Mv30, it is more relaxed.

4 por 4 is not as good as in the past, it is too stressful, there are many other cheap termas, they have rooms with bathroom the only inconvenience there is no sauna or robe.

Taxes are now bad in Brazil, they increased price by 10 reais to be able to pay their facility. That is why Brazil will never be stable.

Fellas,

A friend gave me a list of places he wants to check out. He believes some of them to be called " Offices". I looked over the list myself and I know some of them to are clubs (discos). The others I'm not sure about.

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1963426]This [B]inflation[/B]. [I]Will it ever stop, yo I don't know. Turn off the lights, and I'll glow.[/I].

Went to 4 x4 yesterday and they raised the prices another [NOPARSE]R$10[/NOPARSE] just for the heck of it. New prices:
[LIST]R$50 entrance - unchanged. Waived if sessioning before 6 pm.[/LIST][LIST]R$340 for 40 minutes[/LIST][LIST]R$360 for 60 minutes[/LIST][/QUOTE]Just came back from Brazil 2 days ago. I have to stay the talent is not what it use to be from last year. Plus I remember when 4 x 4 was jam packed, it seems like the Brazil Crisis is taking its toll. I can predict that the 4 x 4 will be closed by next year. I will give you a guys my full report tomorrow.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1963806]Really good info especially for guys looking to make their first trip. Thanks!

About Thailand, a little travel tip. It is one of the top destinations in the world, especially from Europe, but it is not the final destination. In talking with a number of hotel operators in Bangkok, I found out many people stay only one night because the fares connecting through Bangkok were cheap. If you are planning a trip to another SE Asia destination always check the routing through Bangkok.[/QUOTE]United is the absolute best FF program. For 40 K miles you can book from New York (or LA) to Fra on UA or Lufthansa stay for 24 hours and fly on to BKK. If you want to go to The Philippines you can stay a night in BKK and then go to MNL on Thai. All for 40 K. I hate the crap hole known as Angeles so I stay in Thailand. But Singapore or Jakarta is also possible.

[QUOTE=Blocker12;1963666]I've been to Club Six it was some years ago. It was OK. There were, if I remember correctly, three floors, different music on each one. Some pretty girls, mostly in their early twenties. My friends didn't really like the place, said it was too much work trying to pick up a girl. Expect long lines outside, but interestingly enough when they found out we were American security let us in first![/QUOTE]Thanks at Blocker12.

I would think it would be work to pull girls because we don't go there on the regular, but if we did, brazilian whom want to socialize with gringos would start to come there.

I can see them letting you all up front, seeing that they play American music they should want alot of gringos in there.

Its like going to Brazilian club here in the states and no Brazilians are there. They should be running a free shuttle from copacabana to their club.

Anybody else know any other regular night clubs that play American music?

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1964037]Anybody else know any other regular night clubs that play American music?[/QUOTE]
American music. Yes, there is a club in Zona Oeste that plays country music every Monday and another club in Belford Roxo that plays gospel.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1964072]American music. Yes, there is a club in Zona Oeste that plays country music every Monday and another club in Belford Roxo that plays gospel.[/QUOTE]Okayyyy, let me be more specific😒 hip hop, Top 40, Pop.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1964072]American music. Yes, there is a club in Zona Oeste that plays country music every Monday and another club in Belford Roxo that plays gospel.[/QUOTE]Gospel nightclub? Sounds interesting. What's the name?

[QUOTE=Larry David;1964240]Gospel nightclub? Sounds interesting. What's the name?[/QUOTE]
I don't remember the name, but that's no problem as the club is easy to find. It's at the entrance to the comunidade Gogó da Ema, in Belford Roxo. Next to the bar "O peido da doida".
Remember to report back.

P.S The club has no free shuttle from Copacabana.
Cheers

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1963893]Just came back from Brazil 2 days ago. I have to stay the talent is not what it use to be from last year. Plus I remember when 4 x 4 was jam packed, it seems like the Brazil Crisis is taking its toll. I can predict that the 4 x 4 will be closed by next year. I will give you a guys my full report tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, AFAIK you can't find such a massive population of firm round asses in the whole world as you can in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Prophet22JG;1963637]

Is there any recommendations for a Hotel similar to South Beach in Ipanema?

Is the WhatsUp used a lot in Rio. Can you connect with them in the States? Wanted to know so that I could set something up before I got there.

I will start with Hotside and see if I can set up something up before I get there.

[/QUOTE]In Ipanema try the Abilità Suites Ipanema Tower, Rio de Janeiro. It's an apart hotel if this is the type of thing you're looking for. There are a few more in Ipanema same style.

I just returned from a short trip to Rio and used Whatsapp for all communication, everybody uses it. As a matter of fact I never called anybody only texting thru whatsapp.

Not a bad idea to get communication ahead of time using whatsapp for girls on Hotside or Barra VIP at least you get their number in your phone and get it set up right ahead of time instead of fumbling at the last minute. Also if you find someone you like they may be on the site today but when you arrive they may not be because it's expensive to be on the site so they put their pics up and down to save money.

If your Portuguese is not perfect then you can enter what you want to say in Google translate then copy and paste into whatsapp, it works pretty good. Then when she responds copy and paste her response into the translator and change the language to Portuguese to English and now you're communicating, works pretty good except when she gets there in person.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1964695]In Ipanema try the Abilit Suites Ipanema Tower, Rio de Janeiro. It's an apart hotel if this is the type of thing you're looking for. There are a few more in Ipanema same style.

I just returned from a short trip to Rio and used Whatsapp for all communication, everybody uses it. As a matter of fact I never called anybody only texting thru whatsapp.

Not a bad idea to get communication ahead of time using whatsapp for girls on Hotside or Barra VIP at least you get their number in your phone and get it set up right ahead of time instead of fumbling at the last minute. Also if you find someone you like they may be on the site today but when you arrive they may not be because it's expensive to be on the site so they put their pics up and down to save money.

If your Portuguese is not perfect then you can enter what you want to say in Google translate then copy and paste into whatsapp, it works pretty good. Then when she responds copy and paste her response into the translator and change the language to Portuguese to English and now you're communicating, works pretty good except when she gets there in person.[/QUOTE]Get the RECORDER (translate) AP for Iphone and just record audio live into it and it speaks back in portugues and vice versa in english on her phone -communicate like that in person. Can be a fun tool together if your portugues is non-existent.

4 por 4 really changed the price? 360 reais one hour? What about Cancun?

[QUOTE=Komo753;1964990]4 por 4 really changed the price? 360 reais one hour? What about Cancun?[/QUOTE]Yeah its 360 now, I was there last week, But 4 x 4 seems slow for the whole week I was there. Not to many clients and most of the girls I seen last year. Did not go to Cancun so I don't know the price but its cheaper than the 4 x 4.

Terma Cancun is reasonable. Monte Carlo has turned into a mafia spot and they have baseball bats. No BS. This is an american saying please stay away from Monte Carlo. They are very much involved in drug trafficking and be very careful.

Cancun is cool Monte Carlo is not. Stay away please.

[QUOTE=WolfPack;1965924]Terma Cancun is reasonable. Monte Carlo has turned into a mafia spot and they have baseball bats. No BS. This is an american saying please stay away from Monte Carlo. They are very much involved in drug trafficking and be very careful.

Cancun is cool Monte Carlo is not. Stay away please.[/QUOTE]MC and every single major terma is mafia in Rio.

Whats new at MC?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1966108]MC and every single major terma is mafia in Rio.

Whats new at MC?[/QUOTE]I guess nothing is new but they don't try to hide it now. It felt very dangerous in monte. Just take care in there.

I never really fully realized before how the system works in there but it makes sense. The whole system in probably all of south america is the same. The big businesses are tied into distribution and pay off the cops. The cops are very corrupt in Brazil.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1963564]The girls on hotside and all those who have a fair number of reviews (rather than GP arena, I would recommend [URL]forumx.com.br[/URL] as it is especially reliable, especially for girls in the BRL 150-250 price range). As long as your apartment / hotel is girl friendly, you should be OK with the girls. The worst thing a Brazilian can be is a thief; it's considered extremely low class. More of a risk when getting take out from somewhere like Mabs.

You'll be fine in any of the 2nd tier termas in centro (MV 30 and the like) as well as the prives anywhere in the city. VM is probably not the best idea if you're solo and don't speak any portuguese.[/QUOTE]It seems that (according the forum) those of us traveling solo should stick to the daytime locations and be extra careful at night.

That sounds good for my first trip next summer. I'd like to hit the termas during the day and pull a pro to spend the night with me back at the hotel room. No need to go around at night for me.

Thanks for the great advice for us newbies to Rio!

[QUOTE=WolfPack;1966498]I guess nothing is new but they don't try to hide it now. It felt very dangerous in monte. Just take care in there.

I never really fully realized before how the system works in there but it makes sense. The whole system in probably all of south america is the same. The big businesses are tied into distribution and pay off the cops. The cops are very corrupt in Brazil.[/QUOTE]What exactly felt dangerous?

I've been comin there since my intro to Rio in April 2013 and never felt that.

Granted I stopped going regularly a year and a half ago but have popped in occasionally since then. The only thing that felt dangerous was me falling asleep due to being bored with the lack of talent and plastic feel and waking up in MC all alone in the dark with no one there but Ivan's old ass partner.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1966543]What exactly felt dangerous?

I've been comin there since my intro to Rio in April 2013 and never felt that.

Granted I stopped going egularly a year and a half ago but have popped in occasionall. y since then. The only thing that felt dangerous was me falling asleep due to being bored with the lack of talent and plastic feel and waking up in MC all alone in the dark with no one there but Ivan's old ass partner.[/QUOTE]Distribution. Organized. And I'm not talking about soft drinks is happening in there. Be aware that is a spot for that now. Take care in there Its been a good reliable spot for a long time but believe me it's real.

[QUOTE=WolfPack;1966841]Distribution. Organized. And I'm not talking about soft drinks is happening in there. Be aware that is a spot for that now. Take care in there Its been a good reliable spot for a long time but believe me it's real.[/QUOTE]Unless it is a sporting or entertainment event, there is hardly anything organized in Brazil.

I have seen organized crime and trust me, Monte Carlo isn't it. Drugs in a termas is nothing new. How do you think most of the girls deal with having sex with some of the guys?

Other than the girls with humongous asses, there is no reason not to go.

[QUOTE=WolfPack;1966841]Distribution. Organized. And I'm not talking about soft drinks is happening in there. Be aware that is a spot for that now. Take care in there Its been a good reliable spot for a long time but believe me it's real.[/QUOTE]So why not put it out there? What exactly did you see that brought you to this conclusion?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1967417]So why not put it out there? What exactly did you see that brought you to this conclusion?[/QUOTE]Most terma owners probably have links to drugs and Police who also have links to drugs and termas so what's the shock?

I don't believe there are more drugs in there than in Centarus.

Shed some light instead of scaremongering with no examples please.

I have met quite a few policemen in 4 X 4. Detectives, sargents etc. So what?-all termas are kept open due to kick-backs.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1967807]Most terma owners probably have links to drugs and Police who also have links to drugs and termas so what's the shock?

I don't believe there are more drugs in there than in Centarus.

Shed some light instead of scaremongering with no examples please.

I have met quite a few policemen in 4 X 4. Detectives, sargents etc. So what?-all termas are kept open due to kick-backs.[/QUOTE]About 80% of the "cocaine" you're likely to find in zona sul termas is not cocaine. The terma business is lucrative, and getting involved in cocaine distribution in zona sul, particularly in the areas where Solarium, Centaurus, and Monte Carlo are located, is both dangerous and bad for business. The majority of the terma business comes from Brazilian businessmen who generally don't do a lot of blow.

However, when a gringo (or even a local) asks for blow, the girls and the wait staff will happily take your money and come back with a bag of baby milk formula, with the caveat that they can only deliver it in one of the rooms, obligating the buyer to a session with the girl. While the buyer is waiting in the room for the girl, the girl will change her clothes and then rub lidocaine / zylocaine on her tits. When she gets the room, she'll let the buyer have his line (generally taken off the girl's body somewhere) and then stick her tits in they guys face which will usually get sucked / licked. The resultant numbing of the guy's mouth will make him believe he's just had cocaine despite having snorted baby formula.

This scam occurs in Centaurus and Solarium; I don't know about Monte Carlo or 4 x4. Occasionally, you'll find a girl who has blow in her top. If she's up for using herself, then it's likely coke. As a general rule, if you want coke while in a termas, you're better off bringing your own. They don't get too fussed about what goes on the rooms as long as the girl's aren't hurt in any way.

In 4 x4 a lot of the girls do smoke a lot of weed, but they always put a towel under the door to prevent the smoke from drifting into the corridor.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1963806]Really good info especially for guys looking to make their first trip. Thanks![/QUOTE]I forgot to add this one other prive girl who is the most beautiful woman I found in the Centro prives.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL]

She is amazing and also will do anal if you're into that which I am not (kinda disgusting to me). The facilities at her place are really weak though.

If a tantalizing Thai body to body massage with no sex but a great happy ending is something you enjoy I think you will love this place.

[URL]http://shivaterapias.com.br/massagens-terapeuticas/[/URL]

Ask for Mily. Wonderful sensual massage.

Hey guys,

I was wondering if any one knows what are the best bars or areas to pick up freelance girls. I heard of a place called Mabs Restaurant anything else similar. Obviously I am not looking for street girls, more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive Please advise.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bravo;1967417]So why not put it out there? What exactly did you see that brought you to this conclusion?[/QUOTE]Monte carlo is no more or less "organized" than any other major terma. Same principle, same fines as other tier 1 termas.

Re blow I don't do it so I wouldn't know but have never been offered it there. Have been offered BBFS plenty of time for a tip or just given which is a much more powerful drug.

[QUOTE=Monger1988;1968270]Hey guys,

I was wondering if any one knows what are the best bars or areas to pick up freelance girls. I heard of a place called Mabs Restaurant anything else similar. Obviously I am not looking for street girls, more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive Please advise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Mabs is better / easier. Just use it. I'm assuming you are just going to be in the general copa area.

IMHO, and from my experience, for bars you will need to be fluent in Portuguese because of the noise. It won't be practical to keep using your translator app in there. Bars are too expensive for most locals anyway so you won't see girls just working in them. In places where girls speak good english and go out a lot (like ipanema), well, they are usually well-to-do and arent working girls.

There's lots of great fun to be had in Brazil. No need to go off the beaten path here, just stick to the tried and true. The best gems are placed exactly where they think you'll be looking.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1968129]I forgot to add this one other prive girl who is the most beautiful woman I found in the Centro prives.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL][/QUOTE]Some crackers on that website. Nice recommendation for my forthcoming trip there.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1968451]Mabs is better / easier... No need to go off the beaten path here, just stick to the tried and true. The best gems are placed exactly where they think you'll be looking.[/QUOTE]
IMHO is just the contrary. Mabs is "better" if you look for fuglies and "easier" if you want get ripped-off. Monger1988 asked for "more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive". The Mabs girls are mostly low-end, hardcores, low quality and way too expensive.
Furthermore, the more you go off the beaten track the greater are the chances of finding the best gems, which definitely are not to be found where you think you'll be looking.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1968458]IMHO is just the contrary. Mabs is "better" if you look for fuglies and "easier" if you want get ripped-off. Monger1988 asked for "more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive". The Mabs girls are mostly low-end, hardcores, low quality and way too expensive.
Furthermore, the more you go off the beaten track the greater are the chances of finding the best gems, which definitely are not to be found where you think you'll be looking.[/QUOTE]I'm willing to accept your contention. I may have just had some incredible and unusual luck (esp w / that one girl from Mabs). Ok. I do know one thing though. My Portuguese is not strong enough to support me outside of the copa / ipanema area. Outside of those areas is surrounded by favelas that can be pretty dangerous if you are armed with only a smartphone translator app. Even niteroi can be dangerous if you are not escorted, although maybe not too terrible during the afternoon by the fish market. And as much as I want to try a terma in niteroi (don't ask me why, I don't know why I'm curious either), I never did, because the standards are not the same as in the termas of copa, so why bother? The girls of quattro and monte carlo were gorgeous and engaging enough to keep my d.ick rock hard the whole time. . and dig this, I never even got around to centaurus!

The closest I ever came to doing what you suggested, is I walked into a lower end terma off of copa, closer to leme, it smelled like a sewer as I walked up the stairs, there were 3 ugly girls in there, no other customers, and this was on a Friday night. I said "forget it" and walked right out.

[QUOTE=Monger1988;1968270]Hey guys,

I was wondering if any one knows what are the best bars or areas to pick up freelance girls. I heard of a place called Mabs Restaurant anything else similar. Obviously I am not looking for street girls, more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive Please advise.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you're looking for higher end, try Melt in Leblon after 11 or Mirroir on the Lagoon. Also the Shenanigans and the Blue Agave, both in Ipanema, have a few free lance girls kicking around from time to time, but quality can vary.

Mabs runs the gamut. You can find some gems, and also women who will haunt your dreams. The girls at Barbarellas are generally quite hot, but the price point is a bit higher (60 to get in, plus a 60 exit fee with girls usually settling for a price in the 300-400 BRL range regardless of what level they originally ask). At about 3, a lot of the Barbarella girls who either had no luck or are leaving motels head over to Mabs to there is an interesting late night run. There's also a place on the corner of Nossa senhora de copacanaba and Rua Duvivier that starts with a "K". Still no idea what it's called. It's hit and miss, but as it's fully indoors and has girls dancing so can feel a little more like a conventional club, except you're unlikely to go home alone unless you choose to do so.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1968458]IMHO is just the contrary. Mabs is "better" if you look for fuglies and "easier" if you want get ripped-off. Monger1988 asked for "more of the higher end type of semi pros, good quality but not to expensive". The Mabs girls are mostly low-end, hardcores, low quality and way too expensive.
Furthermore, the more you go off the beaten track the greater are the chances of finding the best gems, which definitely are not to be found where you think you'll be looking.[/QUOTE]Yeah Mabs Restaurant is full of very low quality girls, You even see wash up ExHelp Girls that were working on the streets since the late 80's when Ronald Reagan was president. The reason why the quality is so bad is because in my opinion there are not to many mongering tourist that visit Brazil like they were in the late 90's, early 2000's-2009 when help was around. So when there is hardly any work with few tourist, you will only get the really hardcore girls to come out. Brazil is very expensive right now for a 3rd World Country. I was there 3 weeks ago and the prices of food, lodging, etc. I felt like I was in Europe, Europe is expensive but at least your getting 1st world amenities.

I am surprise nobody has open a help like club in Copacabana. But we still have a long way to go. I still don't know why plane tickets cost almost $2,000 for a economy class when the Price of Gas and Oil is at the lowest levels.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1968526]At about 3, a lot of the Barbarella girls who either had no luck or are leaving motels head over to Mabs to there is an interesting late night run.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of Help in the good old days when the fussy girls started to get a lot more interested in a deal around 2 am.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1968455]Some crackers on that website. Nice recommendation for my forthcoming trip there.

Thanks![/QUOTE]For your first trip I recommend for at least the first few days go to Rio Bravo 185. It is a 22 story building with many prives. It is within about 100 yards of Carioca metro. The prives I would start with are Angel room 1708, Onix 2104, Dany 1308 and Bel 2114. Check out TDs on [URL]forum.com.br[/URL].

Is it even possible to get an overnight with a cutie for btwn 350-450 BRL anymore there?

In São Paulo when I was there earlier this year, it is still possible pretty easily at a handful of the non top tier Boates.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1968715]Is it even possible to get an overnight with a cutie for btwn 350-450 BRL anymore there?

In So Paulo when I was there earlier this year, it is still possible pretty easily at a handful of the non top tier Boates.[/QUOTE]You can definetely get an overnighter for less than that.

Good VM girls will definetely come and spend the night if they like you-for 200.

Lower tier terma girls will as well, theyll try it on but again if you guys have chemistry, they will do it.

The K Klub Backdoor the was referring to is a late night spot a la Subsolo on Rio Branco in Centro but in Copa.

Take out spot.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1968526]If you're looking for higher end, try Melt in Leblon after 11 or Mirroir on the Lagoon. Also the Shenanigans and the Blue Agave, both in Ipanema, have a few free lance girls kicking around from time to time, but quality can vary.

Mabs runs the gamut. You can find some gems, and also women who will haunt your dreams. The girls at Barbarellas are generally quite hot, but the price point is a bit higher (60 to get in, plus a 60 exit fee with girls usually settling for a price in the 300-400 BRL range regardless of what level they originally ask). At about 3, a lot of the Barbarella girls who either had no luck or are leaving motels head over to Mabs to there is an interesting late night run. There's also a place on the corner of Nossa senhora de copacanaba and Rua Duvivier that starts with a "K". Still no idea what it's called. It's hit and miss, but as it's fully indoors and has girls dancing so can feel a little more like a conventional club, except you're unlikely to go home alone unless you choose to do so.[/QUOTE]Scraps can be found at Mabs -correct. Scraps including Barbarella girls who didn't manage to trick a gringo will be there.

Go hard on the negotiation with a smile. Remember they aint tryina go home with an empty purse and you aint tryina go to sleep with full balls-its a trade but also remember its a long ass trek for most of them to get home unless they crashing 3/4 to the room in Copa. A nice bed in a hotel or apartment plus $ is attractive at 0300.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1968727]You can definetely get an overnighter for less than that.

Good VM girls will definetely come and spend the night if they like you-for 200.

Lower tier terma girls will as well, theyll try it on but again if you guys have chemistry, they will do it.

The K Klub Backdoor the was referring to is a late night spot a la Subsolo on Rio Branco in Centro but in Copa.

Take out spot.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up -.

That K Klub spot is actually a 2 min walk from the hotel I am staying at. I'll check it out and report back.

Have you done any overnights with VM girls? If so, how were they?

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1968691]For your first trip I recommend for at least the first few days go to Rio Bravo 185. It is a 22 story building with many prives. It is within about 100 yards of Carioca metro. The prives I would start with are Angel room 1708, Onix 2104, Dany 1308 and Bel 2114. Check out TDs on [URL]forum.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yup, that's a confirm on Onix, I've been there twice and had good experience each time. Girls are pretty and sweet. GFE, what else do you need to know, right? You might be able to land one for later on if you want to do a short time or long time thing, each girl is different about that. I miss Brazil so much right now.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1968691]For your first trip I recommend for at least the first few days go to Rio Bravo 185. It is a 22 story building with many prives. It is within about 100 yards of Carioca metro.[/QUOTE]
We don't want any newbie to get lost. It's "Rio Branco", not "Rio Bravo". Rio Bravo is a western movie with John Wayne, from 1959. :)

What kind of girl can we find in Rio banco 185 (privates)? I've never been to privates in Rio.

What is the minimum time and price? Is it possible 20 minutes like clubs? I don't know if the girls are very mechanical and fast or if it is possible to converse and have drink like clubs and termas before going to the room.

Can we go in and out like clubs as we want even if we did not find any girl we like.

In Rio I only used clubs, termas, and freelancers.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1968691]For your first trip I recommend for at least the first few days go to Rio Bravo 185. It is a 22 story building with many prives. It is within about 100 yards of Carioca metro. The prives I would start with are Angel room 1708, Onix 2104, Dany 1308 and Bel 2114. Check out TDs on [URL]forum.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks Rob.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1968758]Thanks for the heads up -.

That K Klub spot is actually a 2 min walk from the hotel I am staying at. I'll check it out and report back.

Have you done any overnights with VM girls? If so, how were they?[/QUOTE]I have done plenty with 3 girls from there.

All great. Paid them 150-200 but it wasnt on the meter.

They wanted to come so it was more like I wanted to give them some money for the troubles.

Build up a vibe out there. Have a good program -get number- if chat is good and vibe is -then no problem. I have found them some of the easiest, most normal and less hardened girls to deal with actually.

Which is ironic thinking about the envionment but. One of them had only been there 3 times in total. Then quit.

Another works there off and on and a 3rd came from Minas to earn some money during world cup.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1968758]Thanks for the heads up -.

That K Klub spot is actually a 2 min walk from the hotel I am staying at. I'll check it out and report back.

Have you done any overnights with VM girls? If so, how were they?[/QUOTE]I have never tried the K Klub so will as well. People just told me it was take out spot that appeared as a "normal" club-djs / dancefloor etc.

Its Copa so they will try it on with the prices but just politely but firmly negotiate. Be prepared to walk away!

Started off at Afrodite-rough round the edges spot with a couple of diamonds for sure. You have to keep checking in though but the entry is like 10 reais or less so who cares.

I started there but only saw one diamond as I was leaving -who was comin out the rooms w a towel on so I decided to come back later.

Damage for 1 hour is 168 all included.

I went to T31 where it was packed-very decent line-up-took a negra with a hot body and braces.

1 hour and 200 reais and BBBJ / CIM later I left with a smile. Any girl with braces who doesn't make it feel like they have braces at all deserves applause.

Nice loud girl in bed.

Next stop mv30 where the talent was low-one negra was cute-nice body-natural B cups and firm butt but had the longest face and if the vibe is like that in boate that is a sure fire shit fuck.

I avoided and left. 35 reais damage.

Went back to Afrodite and grabbed a thick negra and she did nice long BBBJ and was enthusiastic performer with natural C/D cups and a firm butt.

Didn't conclude-was too tired and the bed in their suite is a challenge-take the small rooms and stand up! LOL.

Damage 190 incl 2 beers, water and 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1968691]For your first trip I recommend for at least the first few days go to Rio Bravo 185. It is a 22 story building with many prives. It is within about 100 yards of Carioca metro. The prives I would start with are Angel room 1708, Onix 2104, Dany 1308 and Bel 2114. Check out TDs on [URL]forum.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]The correct link is:

[URL]https://forumx.com.br/[/URL]

Unless of course you are looking to spring for a new outfit for that GDP you are paying to accompany you to the swing club.

When a girl has.

Atendimento completo: andão.

Does that me she doesn't do full service? If so Why would anyone service then?

[QUOTE=Prophet22JG;1969572]When a girl has.

Atendimento completo: ando.

Does that me she doesn't do full service? If so Why would anyone service then?[/QUOTE]Depends upon what you mean by full service? Completo means she does anal.

Great time there yesterday evening from 5-9 p. Lots of Fuglies but plenty of spinners too. Rates seem to be pretty standard, 75 R for 30 minutes and 130 R for 60 minutes. Definitely not for the faint of heart. I've been coming here since 2002. Enjoy the video showing the ratchetness.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1969801]Great time there yesterday evening from 5-9 p. Lots of Fuglies but plenty of spinners too. Rates seem to be pretty standard, 75 R for 30 minutes and 130 R for 60 minutes. Definitely not for the faint of heart. I've been coming here since 2002. Enjoy the video showing the ratchetness.[/QUOTE]A session is 75 R now? I remember when it was 20 R and 1 are for the condom. LOL!

So I found Club K, but at a block away from what was posted below. The correct location is near the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Av Nossa Senhora De Copa, on Rua Belfort, beach side of Av Nossa.

Stopped in at 2 am. 50 R entry includes 40 R of consumable. Heineken's were 15 R each. There were about 15-20 ladies here, only 2-3 that I liked. One of them asked 300 R for an hour and half and 600 R for all night. I offered 350 R all night, but she wasn't receptive. Had a few more drinks and called it a night.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1970250]So I found Club K, but at a block away from what was posted below. The correct location is near the corner of Rua Belfort Roxo and Av Nossa Senhora De Copa, on Rua Belfort, beach side of Av Nossa.

Stopped in at 2 am. 50 R entry includes 40 R of consumable. Heineken's were 15 R each. There were about 15-20 ladies here, only 2-3 that I liked. One of them asked 300 R for an hour and half and 600 R for all night. I offered 350 R all night, but she wasn't receptive. Had a few more drinks and called it a night.[/QUOTE]How many girls were in there Bonhead?

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1970258]How many girls were in there Bonhead?[/QUOTE]Ignore. You did actually state that.

Casablanca is two Streets over from K Club on Rua Duavivier. Stopped in at 11 p on Sunday. They were passing out flyers in front of the place so I took one and asked what the entry situation was. The lady outside told me 80 R which includes some consumable but I didn't catch how much.

Asked her if I could see inside first, she was hesitant at first but relented after I made a move to bounce.

Inside, there was one nice thin morena girl dancing on the pole to Beyoncé. Only about 4-5 girls I saw so I said thanks but I'm going to leave. She seemed pretty desperate to get business through the door so offered me to come in and drink without paying the cover. Cool, I'll spring for a 15 R Budweiser.

Fast forward several beers later, impaired judgement and I'm walking out with at mid 30's has been against my better sense of judgement.

My damage.

400 R to her for all night.

100 R to the house.

By the time I walked out at midnight, there were probably 10 girls there, maybe two nice ones.

Fun night in Centro with FuckAfMedDig.

Can officially report that Mondays still are bad nights. Very low talent / few girls at T31, MV30. Cancun had maybe 20 girls but quality was low. Afrodyt was a joke, totally empty.

Cancun seemed to have BRL 70 entrada that goes to consumption, plus I think BRL 330 for the 40 minutes. If that's true, at BRL 400, it's no cheap alternative.

Positive note: Thai / Inidian at Orienthai in Botafogo still really good!

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1970685]Cancun seemed to have BRL 70 entrada that goes to consumption, plus I think BRL 330 for the 40 minutes. If that's true, at BRL 400, it's no cheap alternative.[/QUOTE]I was in Cancun about a month ago and the 330 Reais price that you mention was for one hour and not for 40 minutes. And 70 Reais in entrance which can be used for consumption.

I don't know if you are right about 330 for 40 minutes but if you are, it means that they raised their prices recently. I made a post a while ago where I included a photo that I took, of the different prices in Cancun:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1960206&viewfull=1#post1960206

I hit up MV30 last night around 8 PM, stayed for about 2 hours. Decent amount of girls for the size of the place and enough guys that you werent the center of attention. Most of the girls were average looking, so real stunners. I met a girl who actually went to high school in Houston, so we had a nice 30 minute conversation about how she went from attending college in America to hoeing in Rio de Janeiro. I think the price was 170 R for 30 minutes and 270 for one hour. I think it as a little expensive for the quality of females but maybe it will be better later in the week.

Two Negatives

1) Tips. One thing that happened to me in MV30 that I never had happen in any other terma. After talking to two females for about 5 minutes, each one asked for a tip. I acted like I didn't understand what a "Caxinha" was. But they both asked for like 20-30 R. I had already bought each one a beer, so I was put off by the asking for a tip. I just excused myself, went to the bathroom and then started talking to another female when I returned.

2) Rip Off. I did not sessoin at MV 30. So when I went to pay at the exit, I was watching while the girl rang up my bill. The screen clearly said 54 R. However, she minimized the screen and then told me my bill was 60 R. I asked for the bill and when she handed it to me, it said 54 R! Luckily, I had the exact change in my pocket, so I gave her the 54 R, took the paper and walked out. (Its one think if someone asked for a tip, but to try and just rip me off just makes me angry!

Side Note, 4 X4 was absolutely dead yesterday! Aboout 15-20 girls and they were bored to tears. I remember in the past that the first Tuesday of every month, there would be some sort of partya nd every girl had to work that day. Lets hope the selection is a little better today!!

BRL 270 for an hour, 35 entrada that goes to consumption. At least that's what it seemed like. My girl ordered a martini in the room after the main event, and they didn't seem to charge me more than 270 + 35, so there you go.

The rooms are actually not bad, I've been in the one just as you come up the stairs, on the left side, a few times. It's no SP clinica in terms of facilities, but for a Tier 2 terma in Rio in this day and age, it's acceptable.

PS Per the post below, yeh the receptionist is kind of stingy. She claimed she didn't have BRL 5 to make change when I gave her BRL 310 to settle my tab (BRL 305). I kept saying "I don't believe you don't have 5 reais." Finally she pulled out 2 notes of 2 BRL, and gave me 4. Close enough.

-Cartman.

So following Robs list I visited Angel and Onix at 185 Rio Branco. Real easy to get to. Right outside the metro.

Angel apt 1708 was 90 for 30 minutes and 140 for hour.

Girls weren't the best. Did a td with who I thought was the best there and I would rater her a 6. 5. Mediocre BBBJ but good sex. Can't remember her name.

Went to Onix 140 for 30 minutes 170 for hour. Girls nicer here. Took Patricia I think her name was. Tight looking body. Great heart shaped ass. BBBJ and sex was good. Would recommend.

Onix is on the 21st floor but I couldn't find an elevator that goes that high. Took it to 20 and walked up a flight.

So I was at 4 x 4 today.

On the taxi ride over, we drove right into this backdrop of a government protest, with tear gas bombs being thrown and numerous military enforcements blocking off streets. Somehow, and with a bit of illegal driving through pedestrian public plazas, we made it right as they were opening.

I haven't been here for a couple of years now, but my immediate impression was of how crappy the facilities are. Everything from the tiny toilets, non working sinks, crappy lockers, etc. This place needs a major renovation. Not sure why the owners have been so neglectful in taking care of this business.

Anyway--despite that, the lineup was plentiful. At least 25-40 girls, almost all of them quite doable. I didn't a single 9 or 10 quality wise but lots of 6's-8. 5's. At 230 p the ratio was about 15 girls to every guy. By 7 p when I left, it had gone down to 3:2.

Every girl I talked to said anal and BBBJ were on the menu. I had about 8 beers, bought a water and juice, sessioned for 1 HR and the total damage was about $160 usd; I charged it to my credit card.

There is a 50 R entry fee which is waived if you session before 5 p.

340 R for 40 minutes and 360 R for 60 minutes. They also have different rooms for additional cost which are larger, better but I just went with the basic one.

Went to Dany's today apt 1308 at 185 Rio Branco. Did a td with this blond hair girl with An amazing ass. Paola I think her name was. Probably late 20's cute face amazing ass. Really good BBBJ and is enthusiastic. 100 half 150 hour.

I recommend.

Broke my T31 cherry and finally sessioned there.

BRL 200 for an hour, plus I believe BRL 20 or 25 entrada that goes to consumption.

Was there on another scouting mission with FuckAfMedDig. Found 1 small natural-bodied little spinner, 20 years old, claims no kids, and a "Boyfriend" who lives in Copa. Interesting relationship I guess.

Stage name was "Ruby" . Not an awesome performance in the room, a little too straight-to-the-point for my taste. Also didn't let digits in the cooter and had told me "no anal. ".

Anyway, the rooms at T31 are not great. There's 1 communal shower down the hall from the rooms. You end up showering with 2-3 other guys if it's busy. Ugh. Also direct line of site into the shitter and the shit-can filled with skidmark paper. Fun times.

At least MV30 and 502 have rooms with showers in them. Not even a sink in the room to wash your unit.

It was busy on a mid-week night but the rooms were a let-down. Also they definitely cut short my time. I paid for an hour and the buzzer rang at 45 minutes. I clarified after with the receptionist that the time doesn't begin until the girl enters the room after prepping herself. She came in at 9:28 pm and the buzzer rang at 10:14. Kind of pissed me off. They were busy and I get trying to turn over the rooms, but wtf.

-Cartman.

I have to concur with Cartman that the Rio talent is on the decline.

I have 5 nights scoured alot of spots-even stuck my head in MC. As well as 4 x 4. T31,MV30,Subsolo, T81,119,VM, Afrodite and even passed Mabs just to see for myself what the street level is. (couple 6 out of 10's on a Tuesday night).

Even VM was awful. Couple cuties but poor. The non-pro scene is strong in Rio-the bloccos that run daily in different bairros testify and Lapa, Nossa Senhora etc and parties but GDP scene in termas is on the decline.

I have been coming every 3 months for a month for 3 years and this is the worst ive ever seen.

I have yet to inspect the privee scene so I shall hold off making a complete judgement but I am seeing 2/3 ex-VM, Ex-Florida girls from 1 year + back daytime and that says sth.

Also a lying-ass hot Indigena from MV30 is a daytime thing. All 150-200.

I did see a couple cuties in lower tier termas but rumor has it the clinica scene and SP in general is where theyve defected.

Well I also know up to 12 who have gone to Vive in Madrid. Some real stunners in between.

Rio definetely feels a bit like flat Coke at times.

You want to drink it but it just aint hittin the spot.

My winners are coming from la fora. Outside.

Fortaleza, Natal, Macae etc. Kind of anywhere but from Rio.

All Non-Pros.

Unless something drastic happens,I can see myself just focusing on non-pro action going forward here in Brazil.

There are too many frustrated,lonely,hot Rio and Brazilian girls who dont wanna put up with Brazilian dudes anymore,so whether this also opens the door to more semi-pro action remains to be seen..the ones i meet are on a definite hunt for a man not a fling..so thats how to play it..theyll still give up the pussycat on the first date though...damn freaks here in Rio..love it.....

GDP-scene resuscitation is needed!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1971897]I have to concur with Cartman that the Rio talent is on the decline.

I have 5 nights scoured alot of spots-even stuck my head in MC. As well as 4 x 4. T31,MV30,Subsolo, T81,119,VM, Afrodite and even passed Mabs just to see for myself what the street level is. (couple 6 out of 10's on a Tuesday night).

Even VM was awful. Couple cuties but poor. The non-pro scene is strong in Rio-the bloccos that run daily in different bairros testify and Lapa, Nossa Senhora etc and parties but GDP scene in termas is on the decline.

I have been coming every 3 months for a month for 3 years and this is the worst ive ever seen.

I have yet to inspect the privee scene so I shall hold off making a complete judgement but I am seeing 2/3 ex-VM, Ex-Florida girls from 1 year + back daytime and that says sth.

Also a lying-ass hot Indigena from MV30 is a daytime thing. All 150-200.

I did see a couple cuties in lower tier termas but rumor has it the clinica scene and SP in general is where theyve defected.

Well I also know up to 12 who have gone to Vive in Madrid. Some real stunners in between.

Rio definetely feels a bit like flat Coke at times.

You want to drink it but it just aint hittin the spot.

My winners are coming from la fora. Outside.

Fortaleza, Natal, Macae etc. Kind of anywhere but from Rio.

All Non-Pros.

Unless something drastic happens,I can see myself just focusing on non-pro action going forward here in Brazil.

There are too many frustrated,lonely,hot Rio and Brazilian girls who dont wanna put up with Brazilian dudes anymore,so whether this also opens the door to more semi-pro action remains to be seen..the ones i meet are on a definite hunt for a man not a fling..so thats how to play it..theyll still give up the pussycat on the first date though...damn freaks here in Rio..love it.....

GDP-scene resuscitation is needed![/QUOTE]I noticed quite a few Rio GDPs from the Terms are now traveling and taking their talents to Sao Paulo. Scandalo being their destination of choice supplemented by Casarao. Word of mouth gets around about how much they can earn and Rio State is essentially broke, their bread and butter staple local guys are not in the Termas these days.

[QUOTE=Safado69;1971901]I noticed quite a few Rio GDPs from the Terms are now traveling and taking their talents to Sao Paulo. Scandalo being their destination of choice supplemented by Casarao. Word of mouth gets around about how much they can earn and Rio State is essentially broke, their bread and butter staple local guys are not in the Termas these days.[/QUOTE]Your absolutely right. I was in the 4 x 4 around November (Last Month) and too me the talent was at a stalemate. I thought with Brazil being broke and in a Recession. More GDP's would be on the market. But I guess I miscalculate that most of the Recession hit most of the local Brazilian clientèle also, and they cannot afford to spend money like that, like how they use too. Also with high plane ticket prices to Brazil, that also took a lot of Foreigners off the market also. I was in 4 x 4 all week and it was not packed with clients like how it use to be back in the days, or even just last year. Seen about 7 guys total.

One of my main GDPs is going to Sao Paulo because there is always business men flying in Sao Paulo to do business so that were the money is right now. So does that mean the 4 x 4 well close down? Also when are they going to open another club like help?

Brazil is crazy expensive and I think they need to get back cut taxes, and lower prices to stimulate growth. I know they have over 100 Billion Dollars in there Reserves, But how long can you sell dollars to support your Economy?

[QUOTE=Safado69;1971901]I noticed quite a few Rio GDPs from the Terms are now traveling and taking their talents to Sao Paulo. Scandalo being their destination of choice supplemented by Casarao. Word of mouth gets around about how much they can earn and Rio State is essentially broke, their bread and butter staple local guys are not in the Termas these days.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is dead mongering in Sao Paulo is more difficult.

The scene in Rio is much better unless Rio changed in one month, if the termas are dead now is because they depended on locals most Brazilians won't pay the crazy price, less guys (average Brazilians can't pay that much and less tourists in Rio.

Everyday is dead when you monger in Rio? Is it really so hard to find some nice girls?

I mentioned this on the SP thread, though Turgid obstinately and incorrectly IMO argues that "most people who have been to both cities is that Rio is better. " Yet, here we see recent reports from long time visitors saying the opposite. I do think that Rio is a more user friendly destination for tourists and mongers, things are far more concentrated. If you visit SP, its best to find a local monger guide. I live in Rio, for over 2 years now, had lived in SP previously, and plan to return to SP permanently. I will not miss Rio's monger scene one bit, and I know I will have a huge upgrade in my adventures in SP. I know this because in 2016 I spent 2 separate months in SP and had more great sex in those 2 months in SP than in 10 months in Rio. Of course, there are exceptions everywhere, and its quite possible to find some good repeats in Rio. But I am a monger who prefers novelty over repetition, and I have a high standard for beauty and performance.

With that in mind. Rio is slow right now. Just looking at the major sites for free lancers and clinica / prive and the new ads are few and far between. I visit nearly every clinica / prive in centro and zona sul periodiclally to check things out, and the talent level is real real low. Even guys on the local forumx have commented that there is very little new talent in the market.

One seldom commented issue which I believe is a huge part of the problem is the substantial increase in weight of the average Brazilian. The entire population is getting fatter, and girls that a few years ago would have been falsa magras are now gordinhas or worse. This average is reflected in the working girls. Take a hot girl and add a few poorly distributed kilos to her, and she becomes just average looking. To make matters worse, the few "thin" (by Brazil standards) girls incredibly want to get fatter be / see they think men prefer "mulherao" bodies. This drives me crazy be / see the girls that tell me this are not thin by most cultural standards, its just that the Brazil standard has become so distorted that they all think they need body build thighs and silicone ass. They fail to understand that they are already fine, and they will only get worse by trying to get "bigger", they will just lose their nice fine waist and become chubby like the majority. Its a real shame, the body image preference here is all distorted right now. This may be a problem all over Brazil but it seems very pronounced in Rio. At least in Sao Paulo, I found a higher fitness average amongst the working girls.

All of this comes with a huge caveat. Rio is still a great place to visit for mongers that are not jaded (like me and some regular visitors). It can be a pussy paradise for newbies and infrequent visitors. My comments are totally in the relative sense, relative to Rio past, and relative to SP present.

Heading to Brazil very soon and today I decided to compare my puteiro list with recent reports on Gpguia. In Dezember-March I noted that many privées have closed down. Today I was surprised to read reports from quite a few newly opened/reopened privées. Very good news! :)

[QUOTE=Bravo;1970896]I hit up MV30 last night around 8 PM, stayed for about 2 hours. Decent amount of girls for the size of the place and enough guys that you werent the center of attention. Most of the girls were average looking, so real stunners. I met a girl who actually went to high school in Houston, so we had a nice 30 minute conversation about how she went from attending college in America to hoeing in Rio de Janeiro. I think the price was 170 R for 30 minutes and 270 for one hour. I think it as a little expensive for the quality of females but maybe it will be better later in the week.

Two Negatives

1) Tips. One thing that happened to me in MV30 that I never had happen in any other terma. After talking to two females for about 5 minutes, each one asked for a tip. I acted like I didn't understand what a "Caxinha" was. But they both asked for like 20-30 R. I had already bought each one a beer, so I was put off by the asking for a tip. I just excused myself, went to the bathroom and then started talking to another female when I returned.

2) Rip Off. I did not sessoin at MV 30. So when I went to pay at the exit, I was watching while the girl rang up my bill. The screen clearly said 54 R...[/QUOTE]When I go to MV30, I can check inside without paying if there is nothing I directly leave, sometimes they ask me some tips I say I can give you some tips if I don't pay entrance, they just give me a key with a number if I drink one coke I only pay one coke if I don't drink anything I don't pay anything it is nice for me because I can go out to eat something and come back without paying, I pay 5 reais tip, it is a good thing for me.

I was in MV30 last night to find this big booty girl named Dandara, she has received excellent reviews on the internet. While I was having a drink, another girl came up and started a conversation. She asked me if I knew about he promotion. When I said I dint know what she was talking about she mentioned that on Thursday the manger usually has a 2 for 1 promotion. Pay for one girl but you can take two to the room. I haven't seen this mentioned on the board or on forumx, so I wasnt sure if it was true.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1972042]If you visit SP, its best to find a local monger guide.[/QUOTE]There is absolutely zero need to have a monger guide in Sampa. None. Zilch! And especially not a paid one. First, all anybody needs to know is where to go. Here: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1JXNkvkP94RHlGyX9nX6w0gQfwdg&ll=-23.531449553204123%2C-46.59079589999999&z=11[/URL] (thanks again Nordico)! And then second, you just need a means to get there. Sure, places will come and go, but that's why one should be an avid reader and researcher here on the board. Keep your money in your pockets to procure more pussy and ass for yourself. Because the only monger guide you will ever "need" is the International Sex Guide!

Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.

You are totally right about weight though. That nasty trend started many years ago sadly. And also agree about the false tits and arses. If only they realized most males prefer it au naturelle.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1972109]Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.

You are totally right about weight though. That nasty trend started many years ago sadly. And also agree about the false tits and arses. If only they realized most males prefer it au naturelle.[/QUOTE]I'm convinced women don't really care what men think. They think of themselves relative to other women, so if other women have fake tits, they also want fake tits even if 100% of the men tell them "no, no, no, you don't need them and you will only look worse".

[QUOTE=TheCane;1972106]There is absolutely zero need to have a monger guide in Sampa. None. Zilch! And especially not a paid one. First, all anybody needs to know is where to go. Here: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1JXNkvkP94RHlGyX9nX6w0gQfwdg&ll=-23.531449553204123%2C-46.59079589999999&z=11[/URL] (thanks again Nordico)! And then second, you just need a means to get there. Sure, places will come and go, but that's why one should be an avid reader and researcher here on the board. Keep your money in your pockets to procure more pussy and ass for yourself. Because the only monger guide you will ever "need" is the International Sex Guide![/QUOTE]That is a good map and can help a lot. I was not aware of it, thanks for sharing. No, a guide is not required. I did not have one on my first visit there in 2005 and did fine. My point was more in reference to the casual monger who may not be comfortable with the size and spread of SP, compared to the relative compactness of Rio. To each his own.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1972109]Rovnak re Sao Paulo vs Rio, the former is frankly a dump. The girls might be hotter but ill be damned if I want to spend any time there.[/QUOTE]This is a matter of taste. If you want the beach scene, then sure Rio is the place to go. If you want good food and nightlife SP is far better for food, and both have good nightlife options. As for your "dump" comment, this is entirely neighborhood specific. To me, much of Rio is a dump compared to the better neighborhoods in SP. Moema, Itaim Bibi, Pinheiros, Jardins, these place are cleaner and as upscale or more than the best neighborhoods in Rio. But lets just say both places have a few good neighborhoods and a lot of bad ones. Its simply wrong to characterize the entire city as a dump. Though you might get that impression riding from the airport. I will agree that SP is most definitely not a touristic city. I often say its a great place to live but I wouldn't want to visit. Unless I was a hard core monger.

I don't see the need for a pissing contest and arguing if Rio or São Paulo is a better mongering city. Every city in Brazil I visited (and I mean even those tiny cities) have puteiros. No need to compare apples with oranges.

IMO São Paulo has much more to offer when it comes to mongering, without any doubt. However as I never liked São Paulo as a city, too huge and ugly for me, I prefer Rio de Janeiro instead of São Paulo. When I spend 3 months in Brazil the mongering is just as small part of my activities. I've visited all states in Brazil. I have several favourites, but Rio wins the race. Not because of the mongering scene, but because of a lot of all other aspects. Not at least the beauty of the city, the beaches etc.

When it comes to mongering in Rio you can easily find 50 puteiros within a couple of blocks. That's amazing. However to find the perfect gem might needs a lot of walking and ringing on door bells, which I don't mind. I like that I can take the metro from Copacabana. Pass by a bunch of puteiros in no time, get laid and be back on the beach in less than 2 hours. That's impossible in São Paulo.

The ones who prefer Rio, stay there, and the ones who like São Paulo, stays there. IMO the less I see of you, other gringos, where I monger, the happier I'll be. :)

I also thinks you should stop complaining on AltoBomGosto. He's the one who gives the most useful TD's on this forum. Personally I would never use a guide, but I'm sure that ABG's offers a very valuable service. Of course he should charge something when he brings a bunch of newbie gringos to the best privées in São Paulo.

Regarding the the trend with horseasses, thick tighs, silicone etc that's a shame. I prefer slimmer girls with pony-asses and everything natural. This thick-trend has been going on for the last two decades. In the nineties the population were poorer and in general way more slimmer and without any silicone/oil-b*llshit in their bodies.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1972172]I don't see the need for a pissing contest and arguing if Rio or So Paulo is a better mongering city. Every city in Brazil I visited (and I mean even those tiny cities) have puteiros. No need to compare apples with oranges.

I also thinks you should stop complaining on AltoBomGosto. He's the one who gives the most useful TD's on this forum. Personally I would never use a guide, but I'm sure that ABG's offers a very valuable service. Of course he should charge something when he brings a bunch of newbie gringos to the best prives in So Paulo.
[/QUOTE]Its only a pissing match if people get pissy about it. Otherwise, I think its perfectly reasonable to compare them so that people who are planning to visit can make accurate choices on how to spend their time. In other posts I have listed what I think are the objectively different pros and cons of each location. Each reader can then decide which is best for them based on what is more important to them. I wouldn't agree that its apples vs oranges re putaria because both places have the same elements. Prives, clinicas, free lancers, boates / thermas, trash. Comparing those elements in terms of quantity, accessibility, hours, rates, and infrastructure is a perfectly reasonable and valuable discussion IMO. I jumped into the discussion trying to add those objective criteria (or maybe it was int he SP thread) because there were so many posts with no substantiation suggesting one city was a better location than the other. Like you, I have no great desire to see more gringos, but I also have an instinctive aversion to reading misrepresentation of places I know quite well.

Agree w you re ABG. The guy contributes a huge amount of information, and if people want extra personal service, its a laissez faire world. I have met many mongers who can't find their way around without some help and they are happy that someone is there to offer it. As Tom Jobim said "Brazil is not for beginners", sometimes it helps to have some help from someone on the ground.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1972184] I jumped into the discussion trying to add those objective criteria (or maybe it was int he SP thread) because there were so many posts with no substantiation suggesting one city was a better location than the other.[/QUOTE]
My post wasn't because of what you wrote Rovnak. As you propably know, your posts are one of the fews that I always read and value a lot, instead of scrolling by quickly. I just got tired of reading the whining from those who spent two weeks in Brazil and wants to use the forum as a boxing ring between Rio and São Paulo even though they do not know not a sh*t (I know the forum is filled of very sensitive people, no intention to offend anyone).

[QUOTE=Sperto;1972191]My post wasn't because of what you wrote Rovnak. As you propably know, your posts are one of the fews that I always read and value a lot, instead of scrolling by quickly. I just got tired of reading the whining from those who spent two weeks in Brazil and wants to use the forum as a boxing ring between Rio and So Paulo even though they do not know not a sh*t (I know the forum is filled of very sensitive people, no intention to offend anyone).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words. I did not interpret your post as directed at me, but I just wanted to respond to clarify my motivation to the rest of the readers.

Cheers.

As far as I am concerned, the quality and quantity has been watering down for over 15 years already. Much of this began once the ladies starting chasing the Euros years ago. Plus a couple of other factors. None the less, there is still plenty bunda in Rio and SP. If you learn the language, even more options are presented to you.

Logistics are my number 1 priority, and Rio fits my needs adequately. One may have to dig a bit deeper in their pockets, and search a bit more, but there are gems to be found. If you happen to find one before they become jaded, homerun!

Ate logo!

Sperto making a lot of sense below. Anyway a toast to Brazil. Great country. And Rio is a place I'm always prepared to go to on holiday when not mongering. I love the place. If any of you are in Rio over Christmas and New year let me know, and lets go and party.

WTF? I thought this place was open on Sundays. Walked past twice this evening and there was a padlock on the door.

I guess Sundays is now left to VM in the day and trolling the clubs.

[QUOTE=NorthernDancer;1972947]WTF? I thought this place was open on Sundays. Walked past twice this evening and there was a padlock on the door.

I guess Sundays is now left to VM in the day and trolling the clubs.[/QUOTE]It's been years since MC was regularly open on Sundays, as far as I know. Once in a very rare while (like sometimes during Carnaval) they will open on Sunday from what I remember, but it may be a 1 x / year thing. I think their website still says they are open on Sunday but as far as I know it is years out of date.

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[QUOTE=EricCartman;1972982]It's been years since MC was regularly open on Sundays, as far as I know. Once in a very rare while (like sometimes during Carnaval) they will open on Sunday from what I remember, but it may be a 1 x / year thing. I think their website still says they are open on Sunday but as far as I know it is years out of date.[/QUOTE]So are any of the good monger venues open on Sunday?

I just came back from 3 days in Macae. Went out there to visit some friends, we partied hard!! I didn't know that Macae is where Petrobas was located, so a number of people make some serious money out there. I never saw so many bmws in any other city in brasil! Great beach town, loaded with hot females and nice places to drink and dance. Some GDPs as well, only 100 R.

I was very suprised how cheap it is to rent a house, considering how much money people make, I thought the price for homes would be thru the roof. I looked at a VERY big house and they only wanted 1200 R a month for it. I asked the woman 3 times to make sure I understood her correctly!! LOL.

Its an awesome littke city about 3 hours away from Rio, bus ticket cost 55 Rs. Nice getaway to take a female for the weekend without spending too much money.

Hit VM on Sunday. A bit slow but a couple cuties I spotted were enough.

Stopped at MABS on the way home. Nothing but scags IMO.

There were guys there getting excited about these girls too.

It was almost sad to watch. LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1973563]Hit VM on Sunday. A bit slow but a couple cuties I spotted were enough.

Stopped at MABS on the way home. Nothing but scags IMO.

There were guys there getting excited about these girls too.

It was almost sad to watch. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks Balboa. Hopefully will empty the potato sacks the night before but useful to know just in case.

Went to the dark side last night.

Stopped at Afrodite first- young girl alert as soon as I entered the boate.

Never seen girls this young there. Time to bounce. Not my bag. If gets raided. Bad news. By association.

Went to T31-was bumpin like bad skin.

Grabbed cinnamon mulatta with glasses (yes Cartman I had to do it! LOL) -I did see her on previous visits and had her in mind but she vanished.

Fun attitude, glasses, natural be Cups-no sag- ass plus sized-not horse-not man!

Cute smile-good BBBJ-very loud during the backshot-enjoyed herself-good kisser too.

Refused CIM but relented in the end after I promised her a tip. (40).

1 hour in the room,2 x entradas plus 1 Caipirinha,2 x Martinis for the girl,2 cervejas for my homey the norwegian stallion + tip: 300.

I left satisfied. Quite a few good ones there-one of my fave spots / only spots right now.

Did pass by VM after. To be fair I saw 3 cuties. 1 diamond. 2 golds. And 300 fuglies. Didn't have anymore in the tank but some hope restored.

I'm off to non-pro heaven in Ceara to link the half my age GF for a few days.

Had a schmokin hot non-pro down from Natal for weekend. Half my age. Double the fun. Bless all the cupid sites for the love.

Back to burn next week.

I think I went a little "Too BIg" wthen purchasing alcohol in duty free. I bought 4 bottles and so far I have only opened 1. Does anyone know if you can bring duty free bottles back on the plane if you still have the receipt? Or will I be forced to give these three bottles away as Christmas presents?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1974072]I think I went a little "Too BIg" wthen purchasing alcohol in duty free. I bought 4 bottles and so far I have only opened 1. Does anyone know if you can bring duty free bottles back on the plane if you still have the receipt? Or will I be forced to give these three bottles away as Christmas presents?[/QUOTE]I always bring back but you'll need to put it in your luggage and check it in, can't carry it on.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1974072]I think I went a little "Too BIg" wthen purchasing alcohol in duty free. I bought 4 bottles and so far I have only opened 1. Does anyone know if you can bring duty free bottles back on the plane if you still have the receipt? Or will I be forced to give these three bottles away as Christmas presents?[/QUOTE]You can salvage the situation by just walking into any of those little shops that sell loose item such as candy, snacks, alchohol, etc. Work out a deal with them. I have done this before, granted that was a couple of years ago when economy was in better shape.

I had some bottels of J. Walker green label, and I actually made a profit on them. It was somewhere in Copa neighborhood. Good luck!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1974032]Went to the dark side last night.

Stopped at Afrodite first- young girl alert as soon as I entered the boate.

Never seen girls this young there. Time to bounce. Not my bag. If gets raided. Bad news. By association.

Went to T31-was bumpin like bad skin.

Grabbed cinnamon mulatta with glasses (yes Cartman I had to do it! LOL) -I did see her on previous visits and had her in mind but she vanished.

Fun attitude, glasses, natural be Cups-no sag- ass plus sized-not horse-not man!

Cute smile-good BBBJ-very loud during the backshot-enjoyed herself-good kisser too.

Refused CIM but relented in the end after I promised her a tip. (40).

1 hour in the room,2 x entradas plus 1 Caipirinha,2 x Martinis for the girl,2 cervejas for my homey the norwegian stallion + tip: 300.

I left satisfied. Quite a few good ones there-one of my fave spots / only spots right now.

Did pass by VM after. To be fair I saw 3 cuties. 1 diamond. 2 golds. And 300 fuglies. Didn't have anymore in the tank but some hope restored.

I'm off to non-pro heaven in Ceara to link the half my age GF for a few days.

Had a schmokin hot non-pro down from Natal for weekend. Half my age. Double the fun. Bless all the cupid sites for the love.

Back to burn next week.[/QUOTE]Great report amigo!

I'll make a similar run Friday night, report to follow!

On a side note, after all the rejects from Tinder, I finally hit the Jackpot!

Met a sweet 19 year old, unbelievable body and great in the sack!

Just wants to have fun and a few gifts here and there keeps her coming back! LOL.

I'll post a non-face photo.

The New Year shows: Elba Ramalho, Alceu Valença, Geraldo Azevedo and Leo Jaime. IMO, less impressing than previous years.
Because of the crisis the celebration will be with a smaller format compared to previous years. This year there will only be one stage.
[URL]http://vejario.abril.com.br/materia/cidade/as-atracoes-do-reveillon-2017-na-praia-de-copacabana[/URL]

I haven't been in Rio for around 2 years, I like to stick to the recognised clubs, ie Centaurus, 4 x4 etc.

Which is the best these days?

[QUOTE=PGTour;1974880]I haven't been in Rio for around 2 years, I like to stick to the recognised clubs, ie Centaurus, 4 x4 etc.

Which is the best these days?[/QUOTE]
Two years since you've been to Rio, never reported back after your Rio trips and now you're fishing for information instead of RTFF. Parasite, the forum is meant for EXCHANGING information.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1974893]Two years since you've been to Rio, never reported back after your Rio trips and now you're fishing for information instead of RTFF. Parasite, the forum is meant for EXCHANGING information.[/QUOTE]Parasite? LOL!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1974913]Parasite? LOL![/QUOTE]
Sorry, English isn't my first (or second or third) language. Sometimes I choose the wrong words. I'm propably just tired of those lurkers who wants to suck out information from the forum and give nothing back. Information that might have cost countless of hours walking the streets, knocking on doors and test-f*cking GPs. The forum used to be a place where you actually exchanged information instead of just being a lurker. IMO lurking is a serious crime to the monger-scene.

Hit the streets last night in Rio!

A few boates on and just off Uruguaiana in Centro, then VM.

Each boate had it's share of a couple hotties, however, I was looking for something special.

Ended up with the girl from Brasilia that I've been wanting in U212.

Nice looking, great body, genuine nice person.

Very good time with her. She's muito carinhosa! Affectionate.

I gave her one of the Victoria Secret creams that I was carrying to give little Feliz Natal presentes to the special girls.

Then some dinner at my favorite Centro sidewalk place, and off to VM.

The typical Friday night with a gazillian dudes roaming and gawking, but not partaking.

It's definitely not my favorite night of the week for VM.

Actually it's my least favorite night, LOL.

However, VM never lets me down.

Found a new sexy 19 year old mulata to enjoy time with, and then again with a girl I've been with several times before.

One of the tricks to VM is knowing which of the little places have the nicer rooms and which to avoid.

There is one little place in particular that I will not return to.

The girls often seem to be thieves, and the dude running the place is a jerk.

Shorted me on time a couple times. Nunca mais la! Never again.

There are a couple places as well where the Tia is sweet, and the rooms are nice, by VM standards anyway, LOL.

Great time!

Got home satisfied and exhausted, nothing better.

Body objected but couldn't stop myself hitting Copa tonight. Originally wanted to go to Monte Carlo but Google told me it was shutting at midnight so that wasn't going to work.

Decided on Barbarella after fond memories from a long time ago. Yes I know pricey but I wanted a quick sure fire take away before going to bed. Only one other guy in there and around 15 girls at first. Both numbers increased slowly. The problem with these places is you give the girls the slightest look they are onto you like a rat up a drain pipe, so rejected a few advances before eventually settling for a dusky type that took my fancy. Paid over the odds 450 reais for a couple of hours for the girl, 100 for the motel and 170 for a handful of beers and cover at Barbarella. Will be more aggressive on cash next time round.

Anyway, the girl (from Minerais Gerais) was a passionate fuck with a body made for sex. Was surprised to unravel a pair of beautiful natural hooters (was expecting falsies). Tried to squeeze me for some more $ for the second round to which I said no chance (she relented). Was a pleasant couple of hours regardless.

Some of you veterans may think the Rio scene has died, but compared to elsewhere the girls are still unbeatable IMO. God I fucking love Brazil.

Unlucky, and not very wise, Italian tourists. Two cousins travelling by motorbike. By mistake they entered the favela Morro dos Prazeres. As they were wearing cameras on their helmets the bandits thought they were police and killed one of the tourists with a shot in the head.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/turista-italiano-morto-ao-entrar-por-engano-no-morro-dos-prazeres-20612092[/URL]

The happiest monger in this forum is me. Tomorrow I'm heading to Brazil. Three months with lots of chocolate bundas. :D
I just have to decide which puteiro I gonna choose for my first session. :)

[QUOTE=Sperto;1975368]

The happiest monger in this forum is me. Tomorrow I'm heading to Brazil. Three months with lots of chocolate bundas. :D
I just have to decide which puteiro I gonna choose for my first session. :)[/QUOTE]You're probably right! LOL.

Enjoy yourself Sperto!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1975368]Unlucky, and not very wise, Italian tourists. Two cousins travelling by motorbike. By mistake they entered the favela Morro dos Prazeres. As they were wearing cameras on their helmets the bandits thought they were police and killed one of the tourists with a shot in the head.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/turista-italiano-morto-ao-entrar-por-engano-no-morro-dos-prazeres-20612092[/URL][/QUOTE]That is such a shame. I have friends who live very near that small favela and it is not a particularly bad area. It is not unusual in Rio and has been the case for years that motorcycles are stolen right from under the rider.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzN_tcK0NzI[/URL]

A tourist riding a motorcycle around Rio is pretty much the same as a tourist wearing a Rolex while walking the beach in Copacabana.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1975784]That is such a shame. I have friends who live very near that small favela and it is not a particularly bad area. It is not unusual in Rio and has been the case for years that motorcycles are stolen right from under the rider.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzN_tcK0NzI[/URL]

A tourist riding a motorcycle around Rio is pretty much the same as a tourist wearing a Rolex while walking the beach in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]Apparently locals were trying to stop the Italians going in, saying stop in Portuguese. But of course they didn't understand. I guess these two simply didn't know much about Rio because anyone who knows the place will tell you to be very fucking careful in a lot of places, nevermind in and around a favela.

Before I even read the article I was thinking "I wouldn't drive in Rio either because I don't just the GPS system". If I remember correctly, a some tourists were shot a couple of years ago because their GPS system brought them into a favela.

[QUOTE=PGTour;1974880]I haven't been in Rio for around 2 years, I like to stick to the recognised clubs, ie Centaurus, 4 x4 etc.

Which is the best these days?[/QUOTE]All the tier 1 termas are on their knees. Waste of time. Cancun-full of fuglies. MC too. Solarium and Centaurus too. 4 x 4 super aggressive and no real dimes. Whoevers doing the talent scouting needs an optician or a lobotomy.

Go straight to the dark side and hopefully you'll never come back the same again.

I deal in trash termas. Lower tier. VM. Independents. Get some dirt under those manicured fingernails, some portuguese out the mouth and the prices drop like panties.

Don't let these hoes game anyone. Play them at their own game.

Its a crisis-I don't care how they try and spin it.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1976136]All the tier 1 termas are on their knees. Waste of time. Cancun-full of fuglies. MC too..[/QUOTE]After an hour and a half in Monte Carlo tonight I can only agree. Will report later.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1976139]After an hour and a half in Monte Carlo tonight I can only agree. Will report later.[/QUOTE]Check your inbox for my details.

Anyone already went to Paris cafe? Av das Americas, 15 na Barra the Tijuca.

The last time I went was 310 reais 40 minutes room included and 30 R entrance.

I don't know if they changed the prices since Olympics finished.

I checked on [URL]http://www.gparena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=1270&sid=a4f9beba425d3dfee3377f960e70560d[/URL] there is a new boate but ii don't know if it is good.

[URL]http://ibizanightclub.com.br/promocoes[/URL]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1976136]All the tier 1 termas are on their knees. Waste of time. Cancun-full of fuglies. MC too. Solarium and Centaurus too. 4 x 4 super aggressive and no real dimes. Whoevers doing the talent scouting needs an optician or a lobotomy.

Go straight to the dark side and hopefully you'll never come back the same again.

I deal in trash termas. Lower tier. VM. Independents. Get some dirt under those manicured fingernails, some portuguese out the mouth and the prices drop like panties.

Don't let these hoes game anyone. Play them at their own game.

Its a crisis-I don't care how they try and spin it.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100%!

Every time I stop into a so called Tier-1 joint, I cringe and laugh at the over-priced xoxota! LOL.

Like FMD says, learn a little Portuguese, get away from Copa, have more fun for less ouro!

Boas festas!

Arrived yesterday. Wonderful to be back. Checked a bunch of Casa de Cambios. The worst one is Bobbys Blameitonrio and the best rate today I got at Casa Behar on Rio Branco. After some negotiation with the boss we settled for Euro:R$ 1:3,61.

I went to Angels massagem today. In the beginning of 2016 it was one of my favourite midrange-privées with lots of slim girls and pony-asses. Today there were 10 girls in the presentation. The majority were way too big for me. Some were fat and some hade asses so wide they had to enter the cabin sideways.

My choice was Sofia. Morena clara, blond, very cute, mediumsized very firm tits, cleanshaved p*ssy and a nice firm mediumsized ass. She performed excellent and finished with a wonderful BBBJCIM. Posed happily for photos. R$90/30 min. I was surprised they had not raised the price this year.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1976406]I checked on [URL]http://www.gparena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=1270&sid=a4f9beba425d3dfee3377f960e70560d[/URL] there is a new boate but ii don't know if it is good.

[URL]http://ibizanightclub.com.br/promocoes[/URL][/QUOTE]Its in BANGU! = do not go.

I speak fluent portuguese and am not mistaken for a gringo and I don't go to Bangu.

Its a very poor, violent suburb at the end of Avenida Brasilia most famous for its maximum security prison.

Unfortunately terma Black & White is in the middle of gangland territory now (Bonsucceso) where the police and the gangas are going back and forth and the gangs have put the word out that some streets and areas are no go zones.

Not a safe place to travel to and from tbh at the moment.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1976406]I checked on [URL]http://www.gparena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=1270&sid=a4f9beba425d3dfee3377f960e70560d[/URL] there is a new boate but ii don't know if it is good.

[URL]http://ibizanightclub.com.br/promocoes[/URL][/QUOTE]
You should definitely check it out. Bangú is a nice bairro. This could be the new Help. :)

Last night I took iamyourfather5 to the dark side and a few other spots.

Started at T31-where else? Need you ask?. LOL. Great negras last night if that's your taste-did warm up one but left to take myfather to MV30!

They had a Christmas party poppin with too many guys but Father did TD a very cute morena spinner. I saw my indigena hottie but I had her over during the day yesterday so I fell back.

They had great tag team strip shows fully nude sitting on each other,grabbing dudes up on stage to be the recipients etc..great vibe and music as usual.Very Brazilian,very fun.

Since father is more into the plusher surroundings I showed him Cancun despite my previous post's dismay-.

He dug it-whiskeria was empty but upstairs was pretty packed. Grabbed a cute morena with braces and a fun personality.

Took 1 hour in the baller suite-tipsy turned on jacuzzi and forgot to turn it off so half way through some backshot action floor was flooded which provoked fast and furious 8 knocks on the door! Looool.

Girl was good-BBBJ-many positions. Ass was nice apple bottom shape.

Finished on my back CIM in her mouth as the phone rang.

Damage 400.

We went to K Klub after in Copa. Desolate.

All birds had flown to Mabs so as a last stop for a drink we went and there were quite a few girls out-ID say 3 very very doable ones to my liking.If one of those 3 had been in Cancun 2 hours before i probably would have pulled the trigger on one. Some persistent ones who dont take a hint were present but most just waiting for a life sign in their direction-I was surprised but then its Rio. What is poor one day can be pretty good the next. I have never taken a girl off the street-unafiliated to anywhere but did grab a number off a very cute morena from Sao Paolo.

The up and down nature is especially true about the lower tier spots. I would have taken father to VM but knew it wouldn't be his bag but to each his own-most important is to find out what works for you in Rio.
Options are plentiful.
Now back to my last day schedule of a 20 year old very beautiful and passionate non-pro negra from Nova Iguacu via BrazilCupid whos helping me pack my bags and empty my balls before i say adios to Brasil for 2016.

She comes once a week on her day off to see me and doesnt stay over.What more can you ask for?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1976598]Its in BANGU! = do not go.

I speak fluent portuguese and am not mistaken for a gringo and I don't go to Bangu.

Its a very poor, violent suburb at the end of Avenida Brasilia most famous for its maximum security prison.

Unfortunately terma Black & White is in the middle of gangland territory now (Bonsucceso) where the police and the gangas are going back and forth and the gangs have put the word out that some streets and areas are no go zones.

Not a safe place to travel to and from tbh at the moment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, not interested in getting shot.

There are other termas except the termas in the centro and zona sul? There are some termas in Barra the Tijuca or other places? I did all termas and clubs in the centro.

Time for a annual quiosque report. Some of the oldtimers propably miss the old traditional quiosques. At least I miss them a lot.
I counted the quiosques this morning when running Leme-Leblon (very much recommended 16,2 km run with lots of hardass eye candy).
Leme: 14 quiosques, just new quiosques. The last one got demolished in March.
Copacabana: 48 quiosques, also just new quiosques. The last old Copa quiosque (in front of old Balcony) got demolished in the beginning of 2016.
Ipanema: 16 quiosques, all old quiosques. No new ones.
Leblon: 8 quiosques, 4 old quiosques and 4 new ones (under construction).

We might even get a report on the coconut prices very soon. :)

In Bangu the mother of legendary Rio freelancer Alexia Belucci did live. The very wilds of Zona Norte, though Alexia lived in Campo Grande, a single mother with an Italian Brazilian she panther body, 1.7 m, flowing black hair, green eyes that flashed dominant pleasure pernoite in her Copacabana apartment.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1976598]Its in BANGU! = do not go.

I speak fluent portuguese and am not mistaken for a gringo and I don't go to Bangu.

Its a very poor, violent suburb at the end of Avenida Brasilia most famous for its maximum security prison.

Unfortunately terma Black & White is in the middle of gangland territory now (Bonsucceso) where the police and the gangas are going back and forth and the gangs have put the word out that some streets and areas are no go zones.

Not a safe place to travel to and from tbh at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Wear Vasco and a cross on your pack.

That's really the Heart of Darkness.

A gunboat up a Niger river.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1976598]Its in BANGU! = do not go.

I speak fluent portuguese and am not mistaken for a gringo and I don't go to Bangu.

Its a very poor, violent suburb at the end of Avenida Brasilia most famous for its maximum security prison.

Unfortunately terma Black & White is in the middle of gangland territory now (Bonsucceso) where the police and the gangas are going back and forth and the gangs have put the word out that some streets and areas are no go zones.

Not a safe place to travel to and from tbh at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Had an excellent evening with FuckAfMedDig last night.

Enjoyed MV30 most despite the office Christmas party (WTF! Some nice totty here particularly the one I went with. Started off coldly but warmed up nicely by the end. Only had sex once as was saving myself for Cancun. Fun venue. Will return next week.

Cancun was plush. Much more so than Centaurus or Monte Carlo, and a fair bit cheaper too. Alas the chick I liked was taken and I didn't fancy sloppy seconds when she returned a while later so didn't session here. However, I was fucking harassed by a girl who didn't understand any of the 50 ways I had of saying no interest. Fucks sake!

Managed to persuade FuckAfMedDig to take a peek at Club K before going home but with Mabs around the corner and free, not sure why you would bother with the club. Was pleasantly surprised by Mabs. Maybe I was shit faced by then but there were some do-ables here (as well as some fuglies). Will return later this week.

Finally, tried Delirio Spa today. Was disappointed with the line up in truth. Didn't match up to the photos on the site. Anyway chose Bruna who isn't on the site. Fairly tall and fake tits. Was too mechanical and no DFK which is always a loser for me. That and discussing sex during marriage a guaranteed Mr floppy for me while trying to come a second time LOL.

Looking forward to more adventures here!

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1976918]Had an excellent evening with FuckAfMedDig last night.

Finally, tried Delirio Spa today. Was disappointed with the line up in truth. Didn't match up to the photos on the site. Anyway chose Bruna who isn't on the site. Fairly tall and fake tits. Was too mechanical and no DFK which is always a loser for me. That and discussing sex during marriage a guaranteed Mr floppy for me while trying to come a second time LOL.

Looking forward to more adventures here![/QUOTE]I was at Delirio a couple of times and although the lineup is not great I found an interesting girl that was a great performer who tries as hard as possible to please. Her name is Rachel and she does one thing I have always liked and that is use baby oil while giving a BBJ, must like the taste because she really goes at it. Hard butt with big thighs and decent fake tits. Oh yes she has some bleached body hair if you like or don't like that.

[URL]Http://www.deliriooriental.com.br/raquel.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1976819]Time for a annual quiosque report.

We might even get a report on the coconut prices very soon. :)[/QUOTE]I liked the one near the Airbnb I rented in Copacabana called Chopp Brahma. Probably not the old style you are referring but I liked it.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1976913]Wear Vasco and a cross on your pack.

That's really the Heart of Darkness.

A gunboat up a Niger river.[/QUOTE]Hahah King Patmar returns with the truth!

Truth be told I have ventured to Bangu as the one natural, light-skinned negra Joy from MC from 2 years back started seeing me outside-mini relationship.

She lived in Bangu where she smoked half the trees up in the county.

Reminded me of Serbia after the civil war in her zone. When I visited. Near the prison.

For all newbies, uber-Gringoes and non-portuguese speaking estrangeiros this aint the spot for yousss.

And yes get a fake but real-looking VASCO tattoo on your chest just for the day trip and say nothing and yall might not get robbed.

I went to RB 185 today. As I had lots of things to do today I arrived at 9.30 AM, a bit too early of course. Checked out half a dozen puteiros. My priority was to check out three girls I got recommended by PMs (thanks a lot). None of them had I arrived.

I ended up in Angels massagem. At 10 AM they had 9 girls present. I fell for a timid black girl with glasses. She's just started her career as a GP and only had 1 customer before. Her problem is that she's so shy that the brazilian guys don't choose her.

Anyway, it was an excellent choice. Michelle, negra, 24 years, schoolteacher-look, medium sized tits (considering one child they were very good), shaved tight p*ssy and mediumsized nice chocolatebunda. When I told her how lovely she was etc she loosened up quickly. It tuned out she was a really wild beast and wanted to be spanked hard on her ass. I got a bit afraid that the cabin walls would break when the bed was rocking. Nice posing for photos. R$90/30 min.

Side-note: I walked by Quinta da Boa Vista today. As always there are a few street-walkers waiting for customers. Some are not bad looking at all.

[QUOTE=Rob1599;1977086]I was at Delirio a couple of times and although the lineup is not great I found an interesting girl that was a great performer who tries as hard as possible to please. Her name is Rachel and she does one thing I have always liked and that is use baby oil while giving a BBJ, must like the taste because she really goes at it. Hard butt with big thighs and decent fake tits. Oh yes she has some bleached body hair if you like or don't like that.

[URL]Http://www.deliriooriental.com.br/raquel.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds good Rob though got to say these Privees are not really my thing. Prefer a few beers while hanging out with my next victim. As someone once told me the brain is the most important sexual organ I need warming up these days with a bit of girl friend illusion.

I have been to Africa (Ghana) a lot, because of my business. But never taking time to witness the action in Brazil. Rio and Sao Paulo to be specific.

I have slowly read over and over most of the reports in here. And I will say its an eye opener. A huge thanks to all the contributors.

I need advice on places to stay, apartment will do, that is close to the action and also safe. Has anyone used airbnb down there. I also know a little Spanish will it be of help out there??

[QUOTE=Sperto;1974538]The New Year shows: Elba Ramalho, Alceu Valena, Geraldo Azevedo and Leo Jaime. IMO, less impressing than previous years.
Because of the crisis the celebration will be with a smaller format compared to previous years. This year there will only be one stage.
[URL]http://vejario.abril.com.br/materia/cidade/as-atracoes-do-reveillon-2017-na-praia-de-copacabana[/URL][/QUOTE]Sperto its members like you that keep members like me from posting. No matter what we post your going to find a flaw. Stop being such a jerk and if you don't like someones post. Keep it to your self.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1977785]Sperto its members like you that keep members like me from posting. No matter what we post your going to find a flaw. Stop being such a jerk and if you don't like someones post. Keep it to your self.[/QUOTE]Good comment.

[QUOTE=DMagiccs212;1977459]I have been to Africa (Ghana) a lot, because of my business. But never taking time to witness the action in Brazil. Rio and Sao Paulo to be specific.

I have slowly read over and over most of the reports in here. And I will say its an eye opener. A huge thanks to all the contributors.

I need advice on places to stay, apartment will do, that is close to the action and also safe. Has anyone used airbnb down there. I also know a little Spanish will it be of help out there??[/QUOTE]Copacabana or centro, everywhere is not safe when it is empty, just avoid empty streets better to stay in an apartment where you can bring girls if you are looking for an apartment next to Mabs or avenida Atlantica next to posto 5 just pm me, most hotels are not girl friendly if they are you have to pay a fine. Most love motels are not good always an issue (cold water, not totally clean, sheet missing, or bad bed) if you bring a girl there you can break your mood and girl's mood.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1977785]Sperto its members like you that keep members like me from posting. No matter what we post your going to find a flaw. Stop being such a jerk and if you don't like someones post. Keep it to your self.[/QUOTE]What was wrong with Sperto's post about the lesser New Year's celebration in Copa?

He wasn't criticizing anyone, just informing.

I believe he complains when guys that never post info, ask for info, and don't bother to read the forum first.

He has posted valuable information over the years, so I thank him as well as many others who contribute.

Feliz Natal.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1977785]Sperto its members like you that keep members like me from posting. No matter what we post your going to find a flaw. Stop being such a jerk and if you don't like someones post. Keep it to your self.[/QUOTE]I guess some people may take offense to others sharing accurate information. However, we need to understand the True intentions of Sperto is to share information that will help others navigate thru a foreign land that has many potential pitfalls. If you read SPerto's posts from way back when (many years), he has been providing insightful info that will save you money, time, effort, and protect your personal safety.

I have posted before, and I have been corrected. No big deal. People understand I had good intentions. Lets be positive and help each other out. Peace! My two cents worth.

Thanks Balboa and Mangera. No worries, I have no problem with Hotrod10 and Komo753 comments. I couldn't care less.

A forum member explained to me that some people, apparently specially guys from US, takes it personally if you correct them. That was news to me. I'm used to the opposite, people appreciate if you help them by correcting their errors. There are quite a lot of misinformation posted in the forum and sometimes it needs correction to avoid others getting problems.

Unfortunately the forum is no longer a place where members cares to exchange information. Many guys just want all information served on a silver plate and later gives nothing backs.

I share information about privées and other stuff, but because of guys like Hotrod10 and Komo753 I don't post any more privé-lists and don't report about the best puteiros. That kind of information is best shared by PMs.

Feliz Natal!

First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.

Thanks!

Wow. Sperto has contributed more to this website than 99% of the posters here. Plus I've never seen him write anything mean-spirited towards other members.

I can agree with Sperto being very helpful, from reading his prives reports my first trip to Rio it was like I have visited many times before because of the accuracy of his posts in finding the locations. I don't "comment" much but have given a report from my first trip and had to thank Sperto and other for their insightful contribution to this forum.

I hate that guy, he messed up the happiest place in the world for me. 4 x4! Forget Disney World, 4 x4 was my happy p;ace. After going to all of the places that Sperto recommended, I couldn't see myself paying 360 R at 4 x4 any longer. As a matter for fact, at one place, I saw 3 girls who used to work at 4 x4, I took each one for 80 R for 40 minutes. Afterwards, I would go to 4 x4 to hang out with some friends, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on spending that much when I was paying so little for my sessions. So thanks alot Sperto for destroying my vacation!!

Please realize I was being sarcastic! I am eternally grateful to Sperto for enlighting me on so many casa and prives in rio de janiero that I had absolutely no idea about. I not only had a great time, I also saved quite a bit of money!! Thanks Man!!

[QUOTE=Komo753;1977806]Copacabana or centro, everywhere is not safe when it is empty, just avoid empty streets better to stay in an apartment where you can bring girls if you are looking for an apartment next to Mabs or avenida Atlantica next to posto 5 just pm me, most hotels are not girl friendly if they are you have to pay a fine. Most love motels are not good always an issue (cold water, not totally clean, sheet missing, or bad bed) if you bring a girl there you can break your mood and girl's mood.[/QUOTE]Not a fine but more so a small amount more than if you remained in the room alone. It has never been an issue if the hotel is girl-friendly. At check-in, simply ask for double occupancy. This way there would be no extra time at the counter for each encounter.

When you say "most love motels are not good. " this can create a negative feel or connotation to the experience. I have used such facilities in Copacabana, Lapa, Centro, and Niteroi and have never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I haven't experienced problems of any kind for that matter. If there are love motels that aren't comfortable and present a climate of unease and an interruption of the progress ("getting to know one another") then by all means, this would definitely be the place to share such specific information regarding those locations.

One can and should at least a few times in a lifetime live in Brazilian love motels.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1978256]Not a fine but more so a small amount more than if you remained in the room alone. It has never been an issue if the hotel is girl-friendly. At check-in, simply ask for double occupancy. This way there would be no extra time at the counter for each encounter.

When you say "most love motels are not good. " this can create a negative feel or connotation to the experience. I have used such facilities in Copacabana, Lapa, Centro, and Niteroi and have never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I haven't experienced problems of any kind for that matter. If there are love motels that aren't comfortable and present a climate of unease and an interruption of the progress ("getting to know one another") then by all means, this would definitely be the place to share such specific information regarding those locations.[/QUOTE]

I was back in Rio recently. Stopped by centro low cost dives, such 59 Rua the Carioca. Women said it was R22. I did not partake but will try it one day. The problem for me is the close quarters. Too many guys in the small doorway. They hear you speaking and know you are a gringo. I enjoy some degree of anonymity and want to keep it that way.

Anyway, seems many of the women from the BA85 days are returning to spots in centro. Have run into some of them in URG 24 and the place on Praça Olavo Bilac (not the one where you go upstairs but the one closest to the Asian lunch counter on the lower level.).

I know the centro dives close down for New Years. When will they reopen, on Jan 2?

SS.

Today I passed by Danys massagem in RB185. Some girls works both at Angels and Danys. The difference is that Danys has larger rooms with bathroom and Angels have cabinlike rooms with the bathroom in the corridor. Danys cost R$10 more. Angels have more girls.

At 11.30 AM only three girls were available, two heavy dragons and Heiny. I chose Heiny. Dark morena, 20 years, beautiful face, lovely smile, very sweet, normal length, very slim and petite. She had small but perfectly shaped tits (no kids) and a marvellous small bubblebutt. She posed happily for photos.So far so good. Her BJ was decent but her braces a bit disturbing. The serious problem was that she was extremely tight. For certain one of the ten tightest GPs I ever ran into. Not just tight like "gostosa"-tight, but tight like almost impossible to f*ck her without causing pain. I let her finish the session with a BBBJCIM. R$100/30 min. A shame I can't recommend such a loveley girl, unless it's to a guy with a needle-d*ck.

I'm still searching for GPs with large natural tits, but no luck so far after my first week in Rio. I've only seen large silicon tits, but those are not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1978256]Not a fine but more so a small amount more than if you remained in the room alone. It has never been an issue if the hotel is girl-friendly. At check-in, simply ask for double occupancy. This way there would be no extra time at the counter for each encounter.

When you say "most love motels are not good. " this can create a negative feel or connotation to the experience. I have used such facilities in Copacabana, Lapa, Centro, and Niteroi and have never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I haven't experienced problems of any kind for that matter. If there are love motels that aren't comfortable and present a climate of unease and an interruption of the progress ("getting to know one another") then by all means, this would definitely be the place to share such specific information regarding those locations.[/QUOTE]LOL the dig at love motels sounded like a sly advert for his apartment rentals. I have never had issues at love motels from Panda to Malaga and more. Always curteous, clean and efficient and room service on point and prompt.

Its an institution and should def be tried. The ones I have stayed in never had a safe to put stuff, that's about the only thing that wd prevent me from staying for multiple days. Only ever stayed a maximum of 8 hours.

[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.

Thanks![/QUOTE]AVOID! Best advice I can give.

Centaurus is a clip joint where girls are on you flies on shit the moment you enter. There are usually 6/8 girls standing around you in the boite waiting for you to give someone a signal. Annoying.

Its also ridiculously overpriced. Close to 700 reais for 1 hour including room / girl. That could get me 3. 5 hours of fuck time in T31 with 4 different girls. Or 2 x duplas!.

4 X 4 is a horse stable for asses. Talent questionable now.

Treat Tier 1 termas with contempt and caution.

[QUOTE=DMagiccs212;1977459]I have been to Africa (Ghana) a lot, because of my business. But never taking time to witness the action in Brazil. Rio and Sao Paulo to be specific.

I have slowly read over and over most of the reports in here. And I will say its an eye opener. A huge thanks to all the contributors.

I need advice on places to stay, apartment will do, that is close to the action and also safe. Has anyone used airbnb down there. I also know a little Spanish will it be of help out there??[/QUOTE]A little Spanish is better than nothing I Guess. Air BnB is fine-ID say stay in Copa near a metro stop and get a pay as you go metro card and go to centro everyday. Uruguyana and hit privees, termas and go home same way.

That way you got beach access too where you live.

I personally find it depressing living in centro / lapa etc compared to Copa, Apoador, Ipa especially when a metro ride is 15 minutes.

On Rob's advice I visited this girl at a privee.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL]

Think as he pointed out the Privee itself is small and pokey, which is why I don't like these kind of places. When the girl is subpar the experience can be depressing. However, this girl is indeed worth the admission money. What you don't see on the photos is that she has a pear shaped figure and silicone tits. Still, she is good looking no doubt about it and presses all the right buttons. I popped two times in 30 minutes. Great BBBJ and sex. Even her sensual massage is worth a try.

Otherwise over the last few nights, I had a takeaway each from Mabs and Barbarella. Mabs does occasionally have some good looking women and advantage of this place is you don't have to pay an establishment to take her to a room. Anyway, the girl I took to a motel (300 real) was a blond chick. Good looking but mechanical fuck. Disappointing. Next night visited Barbarella. This time a lot more crowded. Took away a very hot dusky Latin / European type (350) and had a great hour and a half in a motel, but it cost 175 real to take her away and 100 for the motel. IE near terma prices! Might be getting back in touch with her later in my stay.

Finally just a word on my visit to Monte Carlo. All in for just one hour with a girl it cost 650 reals. And despite being a very good looking girl, she was mechanical. My view on these tier one termas is that they do have the best looking girls but when you end up with a girl who doesn't put the effort in, 650 reals is a lot. I also suspect that you tend to get more mechanical girls in these places.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1978595]Today I passed by Danys massagem in RB185. Some girls works both at Angels and Danys. The difference is that Danys has larger rooms with bathroom and Angels have cabinlike rooms with the bathroom in the corridor. Danys cost R$10 more. Angels have more girls...[/QUOTE]Interesting point Sperto. Some time ago I noticed that there were girls who seemed to be working two angles as well. Before Rio Centro closed there were some girls there who juggled between there and Eden. I found it odd but chalked it up to the hustle, later trying to figure out how they did it. Then it dawned on me that it's the same Owner and the girls cycle through. The good ole filial.

Some of these branches that I have picked up on are:

*Seven Beach (Ex Rio Spa) + Eden Spa. With Rio Spa subsequently moving to Copacabana before the Olympics some of the girls went with them to the Seven Beach. However inside were girls who were also working at Eden. Unfortunately Seven Beach closed within a few short weeks of being open due to complaints from the tenants of the connecting building (from what I was told). Such a shame that they shared that main gate to gain access from the sidewalk. One great thing I did notice per the site was that they stayed open to 3 am towards the latter weeks during Olympics. Imagine that, leaving Monte Carlo. Walk around the corner and still have a massage available for the night cap if needed.

*VIP Therapy + Delirio.

*Massagem Tijuca + Bel Pazer + Duda's + Emporio do Banho.

*Angel + Dany.

There's a part of me that wants say Green and Lokal Zen are the same owner as well. There are a couple more such common owner branches that I can't remember at the moment. But I can only imagine that there are dozens more that I haven't been able to connect to each other yet.

Seems someone has an agenda.

First, the "I don't post because other members criticize me."

Second, attacking the most prolific poster on this forum for absolutely no reason.

Third, suggesting that most hotels are not girl friendly and you must stay in an apartment.

Fourth, stating that love motels are not good.

Did you ever think maybe other members criticize you because you are outright wrong?

Sperto has visited every state in Brazil and has taken the time to report and answer questions about those locations. When he asked a question on the open forum, I responded to him privately with a very detailed answer. That is the kind of respect he should and does command here. If the whiners went away, trust me, no one would miss you. When Sperto hangs it up, they will erect a monument to him in Centro.

Hotels are girl friendly. The standard advice is correct. Book a room for double occupancy. That said, I never have had a hotel, even the highest priced ones, not be guest friendly. It often depends on the guest and the girl you are with. Unfortunately, most people could use some lessons in how to treat hotel staff.

Have stayed at love motels all over Rio and beyond. Never had any issues. When Help was open I was a regular at Vanity. One time I met a girl at 7:30 AM on the beach and took her there without any money. I told both her and the manager I would be back at noon to settle up and neither batted an eye. This site can save you a few bucks as well as locate some options.

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

The question often comes up about Airbnb. I have rented apartments in Rio for family and friends without any issues. Keep in mind that hosts review guests and vice versa. Give your host a bad review and you get one too. So, the reviews tend to be overstated. What I look for is glowing reviews. John was extremely helpful and a great host. The apartment was better than expected. Not, John was a nice guy and the apartment was as described. I have rented on the Airbnb site literally around the world and never have had even a mediocre experience.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1978713]Centaurus is a clip joint where girls are on you flies on shit the moment you enter. There are usually 6/8 girls standing around you in the boite waiting for you to give someone a signal. Annoying. Its also ridiculously overpriced. Treat Tier 1 termas with contempt and caution.[/QUOTE]To call Centaurus (or any other Tier 1 termas) a "clip joint" is going over the top and just plain disingenuous. A clip joint is a place where they take your money and you get virtually nothing in return for it except for some overpriced drinks and maybe a few cheap feels. A place may be too expensive for somebody's budget, but that doesn't automatically make it a "clip joint" characterized by fraudulent activity meant to take somebody's money while offering little or nothing of value in return. That's what a clip joint does. We may have our own likes and dislikes (and budgets) for the way we prefer to monger, but we shouldn't let those preferences prevent us from offering objective evaluations of the mongering scene, wherever it may be. To refer to Tier 1 termas as "clip joints" is to promote a lie, which is a disservice to all seeking useful and valid information on the board. You may not like them. You may find them all too expensive. But that doesn't make them all "clip joints"!

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1978256]Not a fine but more so a small amount more than if you remained in the room alone. It has never been an issue if the hotel is girl-friendly. At check-in, simply ask for double occupancy. This way there would be no extra time at the counter for each encounter.

When you say "most love motels are not good. " this can create a negative feel or connotation to the experience. I have used such facilities in Copacabana, Lapa, Centro, and Niteroi and have never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I haven't experienced problems of any kind for that matter. If there are love motels that aren't comfortable and present a climate of unease and an interruption of the progress ("getting to know one another") then by all means, this would definitely be the place to share such specific information regarding those locations.[/QUOTE]I have been to Shalimar ([URL]http://shalimarmotel.com/[/URL]) water was very cold, Nosso hotel ([URL]http://www.nossohotel.com.br/[/URL]) air conditioning did not work very well, vanity hotel ([URL]http://www.hotelvanity.com.br/[/URL]) found some dirty sheets. I've been to a motel in the lido Copacabana staff very rude (this is my experience) we are all different.

Normal hotels are girl friendly only with registered visitors, it means if you pick a GP they won't let her in don't forget some hotels don't like prostitutes for normal hotels that are girl friendly you have to pay a fine if the girl is an unregistered visitor.

Apartments are the best option you can do what you want as if you are in your own home.

[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.

Thanks![/QUOTE]If you are in Rio for the first time, you have to tell yourself do I have time to waste?

Centaurus is OK if you don't mind price just tell yourself how much would I pay in the us if you are from there. Which service could I have? How hard is it to find a decent prostitute? You have to try once when you are in Rio don't forget we are all different, personally I prefer Cancun terma and mv30. You are in Brazil to enjoy as much as possible and save your time before going back home for work.

4 x 4 is good too, you can find many girls with different shapes personally in the past 4 x 4 was better.

Termas and clubs are safe, you just have to be careful not to be riped off like everywhere ex buy unnecessary drinks for the girls you won't fuck just because you don't feel comfortable with them or you don't like them physically or give unnecessary tips to the staff (ex just because you received a poor service from the staff or they did nothing for you) tips are not compulsory, when you go to termas or clubs you fuck for sure it is not illegal like the USA also clubs and termas are not scams like many countries there is only a difference between clubs and termas, price, quality, quantity, location and facility.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1978788]To call Centaurus (or any other Tier 1 termas) a "clip joint" is going over the top and just plain disingenuous. A clip joint is a place where they take your money and you get virtually nothing in return for it except for some overpriced drinks and maybe a few cheap feels. A place may be too expensive for somebody's budget, but that doesn't automatically make it a "clip joint" characterized by fraudulent activity meant to take somebody's money while offering little or nothing of value in return. That's what a clip joint does. We may have our own likes and dislikes (and budgets) for the way we prefer to monger, but we shouldn't let those preferences prevent us from offering objective evaluations of the mongering scene, wherever it may be. To refer to Tier 1 termas as "clip joints" is to promote a lie, which is a disservice to all seeking useful and valid information on the board. You may not like them. You may find them all too expensive. But that doesn't make them all "clip joints"![/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. Centaurus is not a fully fledged "Clip Joint" in the Soho, London sense. It is however guilty of a clip joint practise in the sense that they tried to make you pay entry fee plus make you pay upfront for 40 minutes for a girl without SEEING her first-what if you don't find any you like?

Do you think they ever gave someone their money back?

Right. So I'm doing people a service pointing this out.

This has nothing to do with price. It has to do with unfair practises.

MC is not a clip joint-both MC and Solarium and 4 X 4 has seen way better days years ago talent-wise.

My opinion.

Cancun has seen better days talent-wise.

My opinion.

Tier 1 terma talent has seen better days.

My opinion.

Lower tier/clinicas/VM can be the source of at least equal or better talent for a fraction.

My opinion.

Quality in Rio has nothing to do with price and everything to do with geography and practicality for the girl.

My opinion.

tier 1 can definetely still attract a hottie but I found the level had declined sharply last few years in general.

My opinion.

But one man's gold is another man's trash.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1978928]I have been to Shalimar ([URL]http://shalimarmotel.com/[/URL]) water was very cold, Nosso hotel ([URL]http://www.nossohotel.com.br/[/URL]) air conditioning did not work very well, vanity hotel ([URL]http://www.hotelvanity.com.br/[/URL]) found some dirty sheets. I've been to a motel in the lido Copacabana staff very rude (this is my experience) we are all different.

Normal hotels are girl friendly only with registered visitors, it means if you pick a GP they won't let her in don't forget some hotels don't like prostitutes for normal hotels that are girl friendly you have to pay a fine if the girl is an unregistered visitor.

Apartments are the best option you can do what you want as if you are in your own home.[/QUOTE]You've gone to the wrong ones. Vanity is trash bro.

Check Motel Panda, VIPs and all of Cartman's ones and Patmar's like even Malaga is decent too for a cheap price.

Perfectly fine.

GF Hotels check Best Western and IBIS.

Just check your guest in and out before checking in a new one.Max 2 adults in rooms.IBIS.
Best Western make a reservation for 2 and tell em your guest is coming later.
Once she has checked in I never needed to to anything.I had 5 girls in 8 days in Best Western Ipanema.
New Best Western one in Copa opened too.Right opposite the 1st metro stop in Copa..verde...on a silver platter!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1979106]You are absolutely right. Centaurus is not a fully fledged "Clip Joint" in the Soho, London sense. It is however guilty of a clip joint practise in the sense that they tried to make you pay entry fee plus make you pay upfront for 40 minutes for a girl without SEEING her first-what if you don't find any you like? Do you think they ever gave someone their money back? Right. So I'm doing people a service pointing this out.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right about that particular practice, which does suck. But, you haven't told the full story, which is that you don't have to pay for a girl upfront upon entrance if you don't want to! I did that the very first time I went to Centaurus years ago because I didn't know any better. But after that, never again! All you have to do is say that you just want to pay the entrance fee because you don't know if you want to take a girl or not, and they will waive the payment for 40 minutes upfront. Like I said, I paid that one time and never again. Now that's the full story, and that's doing the most by the readership here because it doesn't leave something important out about that annoying practice at Centaurus and how to effectively deal with it. You don't need them to give you your money back. Just don't give it to them in the first place!

Other things about the place that I don't like are that they haven't invested in the facilities, and several years ago it was already looking run down. Tattered robes. Dingy rooms that have seen better days. And yes, the damn price for an hour has gotten to be too high! Typical Brazilian business thinking. When times are bad, raise prices versus lower them or offering other cost-saving incentives to get people to patronize the business. At least the last time I was there, they had stopped the annoying practice of assigning a girl to "help" you change. And then you need to work to dump the girl afterwards because she hits you up for a session, but you have zero interest in her! But still, in no way do I believe it's fair to refer to the place as a clip joint. If Centaurus was a clip joint, then I would never have given them my business over the years. I don't do "clip joints", and I know one when I see one.

[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1978740]On Rob's advice I visited this girl at a privee.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL]

Think as he pointed out the Privee itself is small and pokey, which is why I don't like these kind of places. When the girl is subpar the experience can be depressing. However, this girl is indeed worth the admission money. What you don't see on the photos is that she has a pear shaped figure and silicone tits. Still, she is good looking no doubt about it and presses all the right buttons. I popped two times in 30 minutes. Great BBBJ and sex. Even her sensual massage is worth a try.
Disappointing. Next night visited Barbarella. This time a lot more crowded. Took away a very hot dusky Latin / European type (350) and had a great hour and a half in a motel, but it cost 175 real to take her away and 100 for the motel. IE near terma prices! Might be getting back in touch with her later in my stay.[/QUOTE]Glad you liked her. I probably should have stated that she is a big girl. That is the way I like them.

Another place you should try is Vital Space Therapies. Av Pres VargaS. If possible get the manager Maira, she is fantastic. I did Gisele Who is a little older but a great performer.

[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=gisele[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi,

If you need help in Rio you can PM me.

Cartago perto Norte shopping.

The first interview questions are always, where do you live? Do you have kids? Because I want youngest girls no kids for pernoite logistics. Best girls live in zona Norte, all know Norte shopping, bang them in cartago while wearing Vasco and you're a carioca and will get better pricing. Cartago is where they all start. The semi pro network can be accessed there more easily than overpriced zona sul.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1979109]You've gone to the wrong ones.
Vanity is trash bro.

Check Motel Panda, VIPs and all of Cartman's ones and Patmar's like even Malaga is decent too for a cheap price.

Perfectly fine.

GF Hotels check Best Western and IBIS.

Just check your guest in and out before checking in a new one.Max 2 adults in rooms.IBIS.
Best Western make a reservation for 2 and tell em your guest is coming later.
Once she has checked in I never needed to to anything.I had 5 girls in 8 days in Best Western Ipanema.
New Best Western one in Copa opened too.Right opposite the 1st metro stop in Copa..verde...on a silver platter![/QUOTE]

I passed by Stellas today. Three naked girls were in the waiting room. To my surprise the legendary Kelly was available. The choice couldn't have been easier. Kelly is a legend in Gpguia. She's 30 years now and I had her every year since she started 12 years ago. A nice touch that she remembered my name. It's not unusual with a bunch of guys waiting for Kelly in the waiting room as she's extremely popular and I know many of you guys have sessioned with Kelly.

Kelly, morena clara, 30 years, beautiful, very tall, fit, long strong legs, large tits (I normally dislike silicon tits, but Kellys tits feels quite real) and a big wellshaped round ass. We got their best cabin which is a small cabin, lousy AC and with dirty sheets. No shower possibilities for the clients, but you can use the toilet which today even had a soap. Kellys skills are outstanding, better than any pornstar, her BJ is nota 10, very active in all positions, offered anal (which I declined) and finished with BBBJCIM. The cost was R$50. A shame they no longer have the promoção 2 girls for R$60.

Kelly is a hardcore professional, but a sweet one. She want satisfied customers and for sure knows how to reach that goal. Better not think of how many d*cks she takes every day. It was propably not very smart of me to suck on her nipples as the girls at this place doesn't always shower between each client. This is a fast food joint, no time for chit-chat, simple cabins, the AC is shitty, the walls doesn't reach the ceiling so you hear the others doing their thing, you don't want to lie down on the sheets and you'll leave the place sweaty as a pig. Not a big problem today as I headed straight to the beach.

Side-note: The beaches are very crowded. Lots of rats are coming from Zona Norte and some minor arrastões have occurred. Nothing is new, same procedure as always. Just be cautious.

Arrived this morning and wanted to blow some steam right away. After dropping my bags off and taking a shower, I stopped by a couple of spaces in Copacabana and not seeing anyone that moved me, I decided to go to Centro.

During the taxi ride to Copa from Galeao, there were some photos on [URL]www.viptherapy.com.br[/URL] that caught my attention as two of these girls had been ones that I had been looking for at its sister location, Delirio Oriental, some time ago.

One of the girls I'd actually met during a presentation at Delirio but that morning I chose someone else for a session. Afterwards her sexiness stayed in my mind and I was determined to meet her again and do the session but she left this space before I could follow through. So seeing her photos - [URL]http://viptherapy.com.br/sofia.html[/URL] - prompted me to go directly to VIP and not pass Go (Monopoly fans caught that). At Delirio, she went by a different name. Presentation of the girls was given but I did not see her face. I didn't realize someone had come in the room and said that she was "Sofia". Again, I was looking for the girl I had met previously. I'd remember her eyes even in a dimly lit room. The last of the girls introduced herself and left the room, which prompted me to ask the manager for "Sofia" pointing to the photos on the site. Her response, "That was her that just left the room. She was the last girl you saw. " Hmmm, "no way" I thought to myself as I had already forgotten what this supposed "Sofia" looked like so I asked that she come back inside. We spoke a bit and I casually asked her about her time attending and previous locations. Although she had a look of confusion on her face, she answered that she had only worked at Lokal Zen and there at VIP. I asked again, of only the two that she mentioned just to be sure she didn't forget any other locations. Again she stated that she has only worked in two locations. Both of which are located at 13 de Maio, 33.

The second girl, who's photo was just placed on the site yesterday - [URL]http://viptherapy.com.br/luiza.html[/URL] - was another from Delirio that I had been trying to catch up with. The day that I was there in Delirio looking for her, she was arriving later that evening but after multiple sessions in Centro that day I had no energy to go another round. As it was close to closing time for the evening I did not go by Delirio that night due this. So after being disappointed by the previous pump fake, I asked the manager, pointing to the photos labeled as "Luiza" and asked if she was by chance working today. She stated that the she was indeed working and was finishing up with a client so I waited a few moments to see that ass in real life, in real time. Girl comes in and says she is Luiza. Now, granted, I have never met her face to face, but something felt off about this.

1. She had a nice ass but the ass was not ass in the photo.

2. As we chatted a bit I asked her about previous locations that she may have worked at. She says she has only worked at VIP. So, I causally mentioned the name that the girl I was looking for went by while working at Delirio. You know how it is if someone calls you by an old nickname, you smile thinking "OK this person is going back a few years, let's figure out how they they know that name. " Thinking that I was saying the name of another prive, her response was "No, here in VIP. " She had 0 inclination of what was said or being asked in that moment. I smirked to myself and shook my head knowing that I was put up against the pick and roll, the flea flicker, the option. I politely told the girl thank you and kissed her right cheek, her left cheek and told the manager that these are not the two young ladies that attracted me to the sala on this day.

Be careful out there guys. I know that when faces are blurred on the sites, we don't know who we are meeting when we go looking for them or when they are on an in-call, but if you're one who makes an interest list then look for / meet them (whether you session or not), it is important to keep alert as the swindle is always looking to be a fix even when you recognize the photos that are on a site. What were the odds of finding two sets of photos of ones who were not who they claimed to be, on the same day in the same space.

Will be here thru the end of January. Any newbies that need some guidance or vets looking for a wingman hit me up via PM.

Been coming to Rio on / off since 2005. Speak Portuguese well. I tend to prefer the T1 termas, tho I've just recently started getting into the massage spots and find them quite interesting. Was here twice this year in February and October. Some general observations (mostly for the newbies):

Monte Carlo.

As mentioned the pricing has almost reached the ridiculous Centaurus level. It is also definitely in a low spot. I didn't find the girls to be hideous, but at the same time none were really appealing enough to warrant price. Just plain mediocre. Also over the years this spot has been up and down more than any other. Around 2007 it was very good, then it became terrible for a couple of years, then came back with a vengeance around 2010 and was the best of all the T1's, and now has apparently gone down the tubes again in the last couple of years. Also I've never seen any mafia / drug activity here or any other T1 so not sure what that guy a few pages back was talking about. Ok just to hang out as the boate brings back memories, but overall not recommended currently.

Solarium.

Pricing has also almost reached Centaurus, however in both Feb and Oct Solarium was absolute FIRE! On each visit I found more than a dozen that I eagerly wanted to sample. By the end of the Oct trip I realized (too late unfortunately) that I had to start grabbing multiple at a time (a lot of fun) to have any chance of trying them all. Pricey, but highly recommended.

4 x 4.

Had good days and bad. On Feb trip it was very disappointing to the point that I thought it was a goner. On October trip, went on a Friday and it was fantastic. So many great choices that I thought its glory days of 5+ years ago had returned. Then went again on the following Thursday and it was not as good, altho there were 3-4 very good choices in the haystack. It is definitely worse since they got rid of the food and made the former food area a smokers lounge. Back in the day, with the food, you could hang out from open to close refueling and sampling various girls. Recommended, but only mildy.

Cancun.

For what it's worth, has the nicest rooms of any T1 that I've visited regularly over the years. In Feb, there were 2-3 hotties and not much else. In Oct, there was pretty much nothing. I've never tried going into the whiskeria as there is supposedly a separate cover fee for it and I figured that whichever girls were down there would eventually circulate upstairs anyway. On certain nights (Fridays I think) they actually have a live band playing in the termas boate and the atmosphere can be quite festive. Recommended, but only either for hanging out or for a quick one-drink hottie scan.

Aeroporto.

Recently re-opened, I hit it up twice in Oct. Two boates with the downstairs one having music / DJ and stripper pole but no bar, and the upstairs one having bar + food + TV but no music. About the same number of girls as MC / Sol and both times I found maybe half a dozen decent choices and 2-3 super stunners. The setup and pricing is a bit scammy tho. First of all the 40 m price is about the same as 4 x4/ Cancun but there is a large jump of 100 are to the 60 m price. There is also a 2nd level of 60 m for another +100 are where they give you a supposedly nicer room (with the extra 100 going to the girl for some reason). The girls will also often try to convince you to take 2 or more of them together and lie directly to your face claiming that there is a 2 for the price of 1 promotion (there is not). The 40 m rooms are pretty terrible. The one I got had broken AC, small bed, and only a sink to wash your junk. They don't even provide a towel in the 40 m and the paper towels in the whole place are the super shitty kind that disintegrate on contact with water having zero drying effect and leaving residue all over your skin. The 2nd level 60 m rooms are basically just more spacious version of the 40 m 4 x 4 room (bed + glass box shower). The use of robes is also optional, so you can remain in your street clothes if you like. However that is a mistake. The correct strategy for this place, I learned, is to always change into the robes and take the 40 m rooms. You can then proceed immediately from the 40 m room to the shower / sauna (which is attached to the downstairs boate) to clean up. There is a guy in there who is worth befriending / tipping as he can hook you up with towels or w / e you need. Not recommended for newbies or those susceptible to wily girls. Recommended for vets as the girls can be hot & fun, but heed the above warnings.

Mabs.

Was there just to hang out on several nights of both trips. Doesn't really get going until midnight. Didn't grab anything there as I'm not really into sex at 2 am+ (never really liked Help for same reason). On some nights there were half a dozen very good choices (or more) and my colleague grabbed several of them. Other nights there were zero good choices. Nonetheless it was always entertaining to hang out for a couple drinks and some finger food while observing and trading stories. I sincerely missing having MP as the daytime equivalent for just chilling.

Club K.

Stopped by this place a few times after it was recommended by a former Help-girl friend. The times I went it was around 1 am and it was absolutely dead. Conversed with the bouncer and some people hanging around the door and was told that it doesn't even start to get going until 2 am. So apparently this is an ultra late night spot.

Gentlemen,

I am heading down shortly. What is the outlook on the currency?

Sperto, fine reports as always. Carry on, ignore the haters.

49 graus. It should be fine mongering for a few months, and perhaps the year.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1979459]I passed by Stellas today. Three naked girls were in the waiting room. To my surprise the legendary Kelly was available. The choice couldn't have been easier. Kelly is a legend in Gpguia. She's 30 years now and I had her every year since she started 12 years ago. A nice touch that she remembered my name. It's not unusual with a bunch of guys waiting for Kelly in the waiting room as she's extremely popular and I know many of you guys have sessioned with Kelly.

Kelly, morena clara, 30 years, beautiful, very tall, fit, long strong legs, large tits (I normally dislike silicon tits, but Kellys tits feels quite real) and a big wellshaped round ass. We got their best cabin which is a small cabin, lousy AC and with dirty sheets. No shower possibilities for the clients, but you can use the toilet which today even had a soap. Kellys skills are outstanding, better than any pornstar, her BJ is nota 10, very active in all positions, offered anal (which I declined) and finished with BBBJCIM. The cost was R$50. A shame they no longer have the promoo 2 girls for R$60..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zunga;1979547]Will be here thru the end of January. Any newbies that need some guidance or vets looking for a wingman hit me up via PM.

Been coming to Rio on / off since 2005. Speak Portuguese well. I tend to prefer the T1 termas, tho I've just recently started getting into the massage spots and find them quite interesting. Was here twice this year in February and October. Some general observations (mostly for the newbies):

[/QUOTE]Thank you for a nice and informative report.

I will be in Rio for most of January too and have a very similar mongering profile. Also a long time Rio regular with semi fluent portuguese.

Hi,

If any you guys looking for all in one service with door to door airport pick up and drop off with English speaking driver, let me know pm me.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1979653]Gentlemen,

I am heading down shortly. What is the outlook on the currency?

Sperto, fine reports as always. Carry on, ignore the haters.

49 graus. It should be fine mongering for a few months, and perhaps the year.[/QUOTE]Welcome back. Yeah scorching hot. You will lose weight in VM and every other trash spot with no A / see! The Rio diet.

I recently came back from a trip to rio and one thing I noticed about 4 x4 is that they arent so strict with the girls anymore. The girls used to have to pay a fine if they missed their shift or showed up late. During my 3 week trip, I saw girls who only worked 1 -2 days a week. I lost out on 3 super hot girls because I had already sessioned and I had the mind set of "oh well, I will catch up with them later this week". So if you see a stunner, I don't care how tired you are, try and grab her or at least get her whatsapp number because she might not be seen again during your vacation.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1980004]I recently came back from a trip to rio and one thing I noticed about 4 x4 is that they arent so strict with the girls anymore. The girls used to have to pay a fine if they missed their shift or showed up late. During my 3 week trip, I saw girls who only worked 1 -2 days a week. I lost out on 3 super hot girls because I had already sessioned and I had the mind set of "oh well, I will catch up with them later this week". So if you see a stunner, I don't care how tired you are, try and grab her or at least get her whatsapp number because she might not be seen again during your vacation.[/QUOTE]This is correct. They can't afford to be so rigid anymore.

The more they let them come and go the more girls theyll get.

Hoping that everyone on the ground is enjoying the sun this relaxing weekend.

The beach in Copacabana had a couple of incidents involving thieves on Saturday. The first one that I saw involved a guy trying to steal a cell phone and run off thru the crowd. It only took the victim a solid screech of "Ladro! (Thief) and he was wrapped up, knocked down, stomped, then put in a standing choke hold before the locals talked to him and took back the stolen item. This, of course, was after he was good and lumped up. Once in that choke he was in full compliance. Once they let him go, another of beach goers chased and got after him as he neared the sidewalk.

[URL]https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni3b2h6ym9q9drq/20161231_182110.mp4?dl=0[/URL]

The second incident (that I saw) happened just after 20:00 hs as people had begun to gather on the Orla near Copacabana Palace. A group of maybe 12 teenagers ran along the shoreline grabbing any items that they could see in people's hands. Some of the festivity goers tugged back on their items, frustrating the young guys. Once the crowd began to lightly disperse, and the echo of "Arrasto" rang thru the air, a group of festivity goers fought and chased the guys off with the crowd erupting into cheers.

Today, as I was on the way to the beach just around 14:00, I noticed a guy turn his attention to an older woman carrying her Styrofoam cooler to an area of the beach where her family was. As the guy walked past me he began screaming at her, saying she has his cooler. He then began chasing her and began trying to pull the cooler from her hands. As she is screaming for help saying the Ladro was trying to steal from her, I had walked up to where they were. She's circling towards me pulling the cooler, to the point the guy is in my space. As he was close to me and appearing to grow angry and with short patience towards her, I stepped in front of her and ask him about the cooler. Other vendors and passers by knew the cooler was hers and expressed it. As I pushed him away from her and continued to block his path to her, she was on her way and reached where she was going. By this time her sons saw what was happening and made their way over to the guy. Needless to say, he won't ever bother her again.

[URL]https://www.dropbox.com/s/aysu081a2nkp3vx/20170101_135734.mp4?dl=0[/URL]

And now it is nearly 18:30. The sun is still beaming 93 vs 99 earlier, and I'm still relaxing under its rays, taking in the sites and sound of tranquilidade (tranquility).

Was in Rio for a couple days before the new year. Was my first trip I rented a apartment in Copa. First stop Eden spa kinda a warm up before going to 4 x 4,let's just say I got what I paid for. Around 4:30 pm, I went to 4 x4 and I'm guessing it was because of the holidays but it was more gringos than girls. I've read post it's usually 60-80 girls well it was more like 12-16, some stunners picked a girl named Jaja BBBJ great sex. Left there grabbed a bite to eat at Mabs, chicken wings and fries was good or I was just very hungry. Few decent girls but I didn't choose any off them. My flight was the next night Dec 29th so hit 4 x 4 again and not as many guys but looked to be 10-14 girls girl I picked this time blow job with condom OK sex. Left and went to Cancun didn't sample the talent but few stunners place looks to be cleaner better lighting, will check out them next trip.

Had a good time this last week hanging out with Reeflostcause and Zunga at some of the local hotspots.

As Zunga pointed out, Solarium is a very nice terma. Decent line-up and cozy bar area. Personally think this is the pick of the tier one termas. Sessioned with a v good looking morena though she was on the shy and passive side.

On my last punting night we went to Centaurus. Initial impressions weren't great. The girls quickly hassle you and there weren't many doables. Was contemplating whether to head back to other copa joints but decided to go with a morena who looked a bit austere but with a body made for pleasure. I was totally wrong about the austere bit. She had the best attitude of any girls on my trip. On her knees giving me a BBBJ within 30 secs of entering the room! If I had met her earlier I would have hung out with her. Top girl. BTW when I walked out of Centaurus it had become a lot busier with many more hotties. Note that Centaurus seems to have changed management. The staff were actually pretty pleasant!

Think my last experience and others here go to show that 1) outward appearances can be deceptive. A girl can look like a great time in the bar area but can turn off the good times as soon as the deal is done. Happened 3 times to me on this trip. 2) you can find great girls in any of the venues really. Its pot luck unless you have some info on the girl.

To summarize my trip. My favorite joints as follows:

Barbarella: good looking girls but will likely cost 650 for one hour incl motel (100 at the lido up the road) and price of taking the girl away. The ones I picked up were reluctant to take below 400. I like the whole Barbarella experience but you are basically talking same all-in prices as the tier one termas.

Solarium: good line-up and nice bar area. Slightly cheaper than the Copa tier one termas.

MV30: only went once but one or two nice girls and a fun place. Half as expensive as the Copa tier one termas.

Typos below in previous post.

*Ladro should be the word where "Ladro" is seen.

*Arrasto should be the word where "Arrosto" is seen.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1981101]Hoping that everyone on the ground is enjoying the sun this relaxing weekend.

The beach in Copacabana had a couple of incidents involving thieves on Saturday. The first one that I saw involved a guy trying to steal a cell phone and run off thru the crowd. It only took the victim a solid screech of "Ladro! (Thief) and he was wrapped up, knocked down, stomped, then put in a standing choke hold before the locals talked to him and took back the stolen item. This, of course, was after he was good and lumped up. Once in that choke he was in full compliance. Once they let him go, another set of beach goers chased and got after him as he neared the sidewalk.

[URL]https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni3b2h6ym9q9drq/20161231_182110.mp4?dl=0[/URL]...[/QUOTE]

I went to Centro today to get my first GP p*ssy this year. As always it's not a good idea to monger right after New Year. Many girls are missing because of they have called in sick or are still travelling.

First I tried Stellas second casa on Rua Santa Lucia 405, sala 429. Three girls present. All of them were, not overweighted, but obese. "Special price" if I took two elephants. It would be a very good price/kg, but no thanks.

I headed over to Danys massagem. Only four girls were present, all of them with too much fat. I took the stairs up to Angels massagem. Incredible, normally they can have 10 girls in the presentation but today only three. It seems only the fatties went to work today. Angels had one exception which I chose.

Agatha, morena escura, cute face but with a bit Nordeste-squared head, 22 years and looked promising with clothes on. She was falsa magra. Her tits were disapponting, young girl, normalsized tits, no kids but still with very soft tits and crocked hazelnuts-nipples. A few kilos too much on the waist. Her ass was mediumsized and good enough. She had a big tounge-piercing but did a very good BJ. The rest of the performance was decent but nothing really memorable. R$90/30 min.

Hey,

If any you guys need help for your trip, check this website [URL]www.Vacationinrio.com[/URL]. They can provide a great service.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Love Bite;1981510]Hey,

If any you guys need help for your trip, check this website [URL]www.Vacationinrio.com[/URL]. They can provide a great service.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I havn't seen this kind of sites the last 15 years. I'm lousy at English, but you really have to check your spelling and broken links.
Good luck, buddy!

(Not criticizing, just trying to help out.)

P.S I'm impressed, 2 months ago you asked for the current fare for GIG-Copacabana and now you offers full service in Rio.
P.P.S Be careful. Since 1991 I've seen countless of gringos coming to Rio thinking that they know the country, culture and language and started a service like yours. Some tried more than 20 years, and NONE of them succeded. You don't want to be another Bobby?

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1981510]Hey,

If any you guys need help for your trip, check this website [URL]www.Vacationinrio.com[/URL]. They can provide a great service.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Guess you have suddenly become an expert on Rio since you asked the basic question below just a couple months ago. Incidentally, before starting your "agency" you contributed absolutely nothing to this forum but now you spam it every few days trolling for clients. No thanks.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1954102]Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1981596]I havn't seen this kind of sites the last 15 years. I'm lousy at English, but you really have to check your spelling and broken links.
Good luck, buddy!

(Not criticizing, just trying to help out.)

P.S I'm impressed, 2 months ago you asked for the current fare for GIG-Copacabana and now you offers full service in Rio.
P.P.S Be careful. Since 1991 I've seen countless of gringos coming to Rio thinking that they know the country, culture and language and started a service like yours. Some tried more than 20 years, and NONE of them succeded. You don't want to be another Bobby?[/QUOTE]I think he was not talking about him (he did not use I or we) he used " They " anyway 240 reais from airport to Copacabana is too much, when I come to rio I only pay 50 reais I just use my uber or taxis drivers contacts. You can also use the official taxi always ask them to use the meter. Or book a taxi by phone only 70 reais something like that I forgot the exact price.

If your budget is low you can take the bus to Copacabana (16 reais) it is next to the entrance these buses stop in avenida Atlantica or nossa senhora.

I think you are criticizing him don't need to pretend to help him out.

Hi,

Thanks for the great comments. I appreciate for your wisdom toward my post. I know my English is not good because I never went to school but I have 2 successful businesses due to that I'm doing good in my life. I went to Rio 17 times +35 more countries in last 10 years. I'm not just a newcomers in this department. In my last post when I was asking about taxi trip from Copacabana to the airport I just wanted to get the update on the rate because I was going after one year and Olympics so I thought fare might be changed. I'm not an expert in Rio like others but I have a good intention to help people Who wants to go to Rio without any stress not knowing Portuguese and have a fear of that big city. I did not contribute to this post because my English is not that great. Most of the time I get insulted by people.

I know Boby also that he's working in Rio and it's from New York. After going to Rio so many times I decided to start a easy friendly and economically affordable business for newcomers who needs any kind of help to travel to Rio. I'm not looking to make a lot of money out of this but my goal is to introduce the city to newcomers. With respect I will try my best to do this business for people who are first timers. If my post offended anyone sorry about that. I am a person who focus on positive things than negative that's why I am a successful businessman. So whoever likes to go to the great city with door to door service please contact me through my website. I have a great team in Rio who is ready to serve. Have a good day.

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1981810]Hi,

I went to Rio 17 times +35 more countries in last 10 years. I'm not just a newcomers in this department.[/QUOTE]It is a shame with all that great experience that all you did was ask questions and never shared any of it. There is a term for someone like that.

I for one will not be supporting your business or recommending it.

I do, however, recommend this agency which is owned by Brazilians who speak excellent English and have been serving customers ethically and honestly for as long as I can remember.

[URL]http://www.copaapartments.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1954102]Just like to know if somebody recently took a taxi from Copacabana to airport or airport to Copacabana gig Airport. I am flying 2 Rio next month and just got quoted $R140 from airport and $R100 to the airport. Any information on that will be helpful thanks.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Komo753;1954200]Very early in the morning or late in the night you pay 45 -50 reais in the day with much traffic you pay 70 reais.

From the airport you can take the bus to Copacabana only 17 reais.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EricCartman;1954260]There are some kiosks right AFTER you leave customs where you can prepay a taxi with credit card for around BRL 71 plus "baggage" fees (they charge extra for bags). It saves you having to haggle with the driver or worry about the driver screwing you. But if you go to the wrong kiosk and they quote you an absurd price like BRL 90+, avoid them.

At SDU, there is an "uber lounge" in the mall attached to SDU where you can wait for you uber to pick you up. But you have to walk from the airport over to the mall with your bags.[/QUOTE]First. Congrats on the start up of your new agency. As it is never easy to get a new business established and off the ground even after months on end of planning, you seem to have come into a plethora of on the ground contacts, performed potential business partner vetting, spent countless hours of local area research and market analysis in a matter of weeks. Now, I'm not saying that it is impossible to do but as you asked and received info on a basic and didn't quite take into account the data provided to you, I'm inclined to think that you did none of pieces that I mentioned above.

For example, the agency lists its rates as follows:

Airport Transportation.

Door-to-Door transfer from Rio-De-Janeiro airport to different destinations. Arrive relaxed and on-time. Travel in Style Prompt & Reliable Premium Black Cars with uniform drivers.

GIG Arrival are $280 / $90.

GIG Departure are $ 130 / $45.

SDU Arrival are $180 / $60.

SDU Departure are $70 / $$25.

Now either way there is no savings to a potential consumer but to ask double the amount of a quoted rate that you yourself admit to receiving is worthy of a head scratch and look of confusion. I take it that you also found 140 reais to be an expensive ride yet you propose to to take the customer on an even more expensive ride. I don't recall ever paying more than 75 reais and that was with muito transito (lots of traffic) leaving GIG. Although, we come to the country to spend, it is definitely not on accommodations such as the ones listed above, even though it is understood to be a premium service. One can also arrive door-to-door comfortably and on time via the highly recognizable taxis. The other services, let's say that they are cost heavy as well.

While you publicly say "They" when referring to this agency as if you have used these services, behind the scene in PM you state that you have begun a business. Albeit to drum up clients is essential for success, it is also noteworthy to be honest. We know that this is your agency and it would have come across better if you had said, "Guys I'm looking to start an agency focusing on blah blah blah" but without any contributions made to the forum, detailed and worthy feedback may have been slim at best.

As mentioned by Sperto, the butchering of the English language alone shows that there was very little attention to detail that went into the site. The gallery and use of photos taken by others were nicely selected though, I must say.

If you are truly going to stick with the agency, I'd like to suggest that you:

1. Identify and understand your target market.

2. Reevaluate your price structure.

3. Have someone proofread the text within the site and edit as needed.

4. Keep in mind that the local currency value fluctuates from day to day (even during the day) so the numbers shown in reais will not equal what you say they do when converted to dollars.

5. Develop and manage a local, on the ground mode of marketing and contact for your business. The site will only be good visually for those who know it exists.

With such a wide array of services being offered, you surely have a storefront location, yes? Where is it located and what are the hours of operation? I didn't see that listed within the site.

Good luck with the new endeavor.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1981806]I think he was not talking about him (he did not use I or we) he used " They " anyway 240 reais from airport to Copacabana is too much, when I come to rio I only pay 50 reais I just use my uber or taxis drivers contacts. You can also use the official taxi always ask them to use the meter. Or book a taxi by phone only 70 reais something like that I forgot the exact price.

If your budget is low you can take the bus to Copacabana (16 reais) it is next to the entrance these buses stop in avenida Atlantica or nossa senhora.

I think you are criticizing him don't need to pretend to help him out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your respond after couple posts. Also thanks for the feedback on the airport rides. They are providing a service with the uniform English speaking driver after baggage claim area with the name sign for the clients so that clients don't have to worry about different taxi drivers or hustlers. I will inform the driver to confirm the prices. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1981868]First. Congrats on the start up of your new agency. As it is never easy to get a new business established and off the ground even after months on end of planning, you seem to have come into a plethora of on the ground contacts, performed potential business partner vetting, spent countless hours of local area research and market analysis in a matter of weeks. Now, I'm not saying that it is impossible to do but as you asked and received info on a basic and didn't quite take into account the data provided to you, I'm inclined to think that you did none of pieces that I mentioned above.

For example, the agency lists its rates as follows:

Airport Transportation.

Door-to-Door transfer from Rio-De-Janeiro airport to different destinations. Arrive relaxed and on-time. Travel in Style Prompt & Reliable Premium Black Cars with uniform drivers.

GIG Arrival are $280 / $90.

GIG Departure are $ 130 / $45.

SDU Arrival are $180 / $60.

SDU Departure are $70 / $$25.

Now either way there is no savings to a potential consumer but to ask double the amount of a quoted rate that you yourself admit to receiving is worthy of a head scratch and look of confusion. I take it that you also found 140 reais to be an expensive ride yet you propose to to take the customer on an even more expensive ride. I don't recall ever paying more than 75 reais and that was with muito transito (lots of traffic) leaving GIG. Although, we come to the country to spend, it is definitely not on accommodations such as the ones listed above, even though it is understood to be a premium service. One can also arrive door-to-door comfortably and on time via the highly recognizable taxis. The other services, let's say that they are cost heavy as well.

While you publicly say "They" when referring to this agency as if you have used these services, behind the scene in PM you state that you have begun a business. Albeit to drum up clients is essential for success, it is also noteworthy to be honest. We know that this is your agency and it would have come across better if you had said, "Guys I'm looking to start an agency focusing on blah blah blah" but without any contributions made to the forum, detailed and worthy feedback may have been slim at best.

As mentioned by Sperto, the butchering of the English language alone shows that there was very little attention to detail that went into the site. The gallery and use of photos taken by others were nicely selected though, I must say.

If you are truly going to stick with the agency, I'd like to suggest that you:

1. Identify and understand your target market.

2. Reevaluate your price structure.

3. Have someone proofread the text within the site and edit as needed.

4. Keep in mind that the local currency value fluctuates from day to day (even during the day) so the numbers shown in reais will not equal what you say they do when converted to dollars.

5. Develop and manage a local, on the ground mode of marketing and contact for your business. The site will only be good visually for those who know it exists.

With such a wide array of services being offered, you surely have a storefront location, yes? Where is it located and what are the hours of operation? I didn't see that listed within the site.

Good luck with the new endeavor.[/QUOTE]Yup! No offence but someone should have told him to hit spellcheck here and on the site. Its free.

To me it just seems yet another way of overcharging gringos.

Real talk, if someone wants a free education on Rio, GDPS, Non-pros, Ways of Brazilians, money, apartments read posts from experienced people (whether I agree with them always or not is irrelevant).

Like Sperto, Cartman, Patmar and many others.

Even some of my posts should be helpful both here and in non-pro and Brazil sections.

All it takes is a dm and most will provide info.

I mean how many times can we post :when you arrive in Galeao grab a cab on a meter..back when you arrived at T1 you had to go upstairs and grab a yellow cab when it was dropping off etc.

The 130-140 reais from the shark office inside the airport before you exit always took advantage of tired gringos who didnt want the hassle..but...you can only learn about Rio by putting all our info into action for better or worse learn as you go along.
I have.
Rio is a constant education.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1981596]

P.S I'm impressed, 2 months ago you asked for the current fare for GIG-Copacabana and now you offers full service in Rio.
P.P.S Be careful. Since 1991 I've seen countless of gringos coming to Rio thinking that they know the country, culture and language and started a service like yours. Some tried more than 20 years, and NONE of them succeded. You don't want to be another Bobby?[/QUOTE]Bobby is very resilient, I saw him the other day in his laundromat, may be broke but still in business. I got some laundry done.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1981995]Bobby is very resilient, I saw him the other day in his laundromat, may be broke but still in business. I got some laundry done.[/QUOTE]Bobby is a good guy. Seemed like he had a pretty good thing going. Unlike many, he even invested in infrastructure and staff. The big robbery certainly didn't help. I wonder if Help's closure hurt business. There are certainly far less mongers traveling to Brazil. Perhaps the recent years devaluation and the Olympics has helped Rio tourism.

I also remember a guy named Kenn who operated EZ-Riorentals. He was easy to deal with. He doesn't seem to be in business anymore. I did realize over time that all the apartment bookers were booking the same exact apartment inventory and just marking them up. That's how the apartment business worked back then. Ironically, an internet site like Airbnb probably killed an internet business like Kenn's that was good in the beginning years of the internet.

There was also a guy named Don who kind of steered newbies around town. I liked Don, but thought his clientele were a bit clueless and / or just wanted someone to hang with in Rio. I myself kind of initially jumped into Rio with just some internet intel and a Portuguese phrase book. I was relatively young, decent looking and figured if I was lonely I could find a girl to hang out with a few days. Don even brought his sister down to help (no pun intended). She could care less what all the guys were doing. She was a friendly and attractive woman, but how do you compete with the half-naked teenagers on Copacabana beach that will do anything.

Anecdote: I remember this hot American girl staying at my hotel the Rio Roiss which used to be around the corner from Help Disco a block in from Avenida Atlantica. She wanted us to take her into Help. She was intimidated to go herself. I forget why she was in Rio by herself. Anyways, about an hour in the club she is generating no interest from men. As hot as she was, she still had that American female body language that she was in control and that men should come to her. She sat on the stage for awhile moping and then she said she was leaving. I never saw her again. I don't think she was expecting the level of talent available in Help back in that day. Most European and American women I have met in Rio and Sao Paulo were blown away by the beauty and sex appeal of the programa girls.

There were also several Brazilian guys I met over the years who wanted to pick you up at the airport, take you to the Centro termas and VM, hook you up with some semi-pros, maybe take you to a local jeweler they know, etc. Some were stand-up guys. A few were looking to rope you into some business venture. Most just wanted to make some money, have some fun and get laid.

Hello guys,

I will be in Rio until January 10th, would you please give me some advice? I'm looking for something not more than 200 reals, preferably with massage. Perhaps a privee?

[QUOTE=ManyTravel;1983096]Hello guys,

I will be in Rio until January 10th, would you please give me some advice? I'm looking for something not more than 200 reals, preferably with massage. Perhaps a privee?[/QUOTE]Check this place out:

[URL]http://www.edenspa.com.br/[/URL]