[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1219213]What does the trophy look like. :)[/QUOTE]Well, if you really want to know...
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1219213]What does the trophy look like. :)[/QUOTE]Well, if you really want to know...
By the way, the FLOODS I told you not to worry about all the time, which were not going to touch the Sukhumvit mongering area. Well. They did not effect the Sukhumvit tourist area and it was never a problem for mongerers.
I hope nobody cancelled their trips due to the rampant scare mongering of others.
Enjoy BKK one and all!
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1219261]By the way, the FLOODS I told you not to worry about all the time, which were not going to touch the Sukhumvit mongering area. Well. They did not effect the Sukhumvit tourist area and it was never a problem for mongerers.
I hope nobody cancelled their trips due to the rampant scare mongering of others.
Enjoy BKK one and all![/QUOTE]Did it eved crossed your mind that some people do not enjoy life when so many peo-le nearby are suffering, even if they are, in their little island, safe? Ah well, that's probably too difficult for you to understand, . Forget it.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1218945]Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course, but I'll side with Mr. Enternational here. One has to be able to understand when offering money is just an.
Insult. In my younger days, when I was still young and handsome, I meet and bedded many kinds of non-working girls, including at least one working as a doctor.
And probably making more money than I. I'm sure most could agree it would be quite ridiculous for me to attempt to slip 1000B into her purse the next morning.
Also, if western women would be happy to sleep with you for free, because they too enjoy it, it does not make sense to assume one could not find.
The same type of women in Thailand.
Regards, somebody who is not a subscriber to the "all women are working girls" nonsense.[/QUOTE]I never said you can not find, I said they are very much the exception. Check my post again.
You say "In my younger days when I was still young and handsome I met and bedded many kinds of non working girls." Same with all of us, eh? How many ISG posters fit into that category. Very much the exception, once again.
I was talking in general terms and used the word 'generally' often, if you read my post.
Yes, there are Thai women with their own money and who would be insulted by an offer of money, but once again they are very much the exception. If we hang out for exceptions we won't get much sex, I am afraid. You think we don't know which women would be insulted by an offer of money and which would not? Why do you think that? I would not slip anything into a womans purse or bag if I thought it would be an insult. Its an insult for you to think we are that dumb that we would.
Said before last post from me on the subject, but temptation was too great, too many errors in your post, but won't bother to respond again if you persist.
Good luck in hanging around Thailand looking for free sex, LOL. If you only need one lay a year, you should do alright, LOL.
Is it just me or Nana going down hill? When I went to Nana, all I saw were girls over the hill or girls that use to be boys. Soi Cowboy is aight though. They still got a lot of young, fresh looking girls!
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1219342]Is it just me or Nana going down hill? When I went to Nana, all I saw were girls over the hill or girls that use to be boys. Soi Cowboy is aight though. They still got a lot of young, fresh looking girls![/QUOTE]didn't have this feeling when I was there some 6 weeks ago.
Surely Nana area, also due to the specific bars, has more population of LB's than Soi Cowboy where I have not noticed any.
Both places have the gogo's pretty much similar.
Nana having more FL's hanging around has a larger choice and variety of chicks.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1219292]Did it eved crossed your mind that some people do not enjoy life when so many peo-le nearby are suffering, even if they are, in their little island, safe? Ah well, that's probably too difficult for you to understand, . Forget it.[/QUOTE]Well, in 2010 there was massive flooding in the north and south of Thailand. And yet it never got mentioned on here, and people came and enjoyed their holidays.
Funny how when the floods effect the rest of Thailand nobody cares, but if Bangkok gets a little wet then its such a major problem and must be reported 500 times a day.
Where was your concern in 2010?
Anyone who cancelled their trip made a big mistake, anyone who said Sukhumvit was going to get flooded, made a big mistake.
All I would suggest is you listen to people who really know Thailand more. And people who know very little actually about Thailand a lot less.
[QUOTE=El Frances;1219240]ST / LT? It seems to be high for ST and low for LT in Bangkok[/QUOTE]It was for LT. She was from the first floor. 26 yrs old and had one kid according to my mate. Good body though.
Ya. I guess it was me on a wrong night? I guess I just went on a bad night. The place was also full of foreigners.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1219318]I never said you can not find, I said they are very much the exception. Check my post again.
You say "In my younger days when I was still young and handsome I met and bedded many kinds of non working girls." Same with all of us, eh? How many ISG posters fit into that category. Very much the exception, once again.
I was talking in general terms and used the word 'generally' often, if you read my post.
Yes, there are Thai women with their own money and who would be insulted by an offer of money, but once again they are very much the exception. If we hang out for exceptions we won't get much sex, I am afraid. You think we don't know which women would be insulted by an offer of money and which would not? Why do you think that? I would not slip anything into a womans purse or bag if I thought it would be an insult. Its an insult for you to think we are that dumb that we would.
Said before last post from me on the subject, but temptation was too great, too many errors in your post, but won't bother to respond again if you persist.
Good luck in hanging around Thailand looking for free sex, LOL. If you only need one lay a year, you should do alright, LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know who the "we" you are referring to is. I was only replying to you.
You give the impression of being either Quasimodo's less charming brother or somebody who only visits occasionally. If the latter, then yes, in the environment you probably frequent, women who don't expect money will very likely be the exception. Nothing wrong with that environment, of course. But it's just a one out of many environments.
[QUOTE=Karan Singh;1219134]I've read a few things about this road (Kamphaeng Phet 7). And the very good looking thai girls. If any body has been here. Please put some light. I would like to visit this place.[/QUOTE]There isn't much to say, yes you got the right road, it's here: [url]http://g.co/maps/kbwhq.[/url] The action is on the stretch between Phet Uthai road and Rachada (Makkasan AL / Phetchaburi MRT are nearby).
It's a Thai-oriented scene, gets going after 10 or 11 pm. Girls are obviously pimped, and they stand off the side of a rather dark road, taking with customers who drive by in cars or taxis. Prices are 1200-1500 for a Farang (and 700-1000 for a Thai according to a taxi driver) for the basic one-shot ST in one of the hotels in the area. Not my cup of tea, seems neither particularly cheap nor friendly / relaxing.
The KP7 streetwalker scene is a bit similar to the scene around Lumphini park. KP7 may have more girls, but Lumphini is better lit and far more pleasant on foot.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1219450]There isn't much to say, yes you got the right road, it's here:
[url]http://g.co/maps/kbwhq.[/url]
The action is on the stretch between Phet Uthai road and Rachada (Makkasan AL / Phetchaburi MRT are nearby).
It's a Thai-oriented scene, gets going after 10 or 11 pm. Girls are obviously pimped, and they stand off the side of a rather dark road, taking with customers who drive by in cars or taxis. Prices are 1200-1500 for a Farang (and 700-1000 for a Thai according to a taxi driver) for the basic one-shot ST in one of the hotels in the area. Not my cup of tea, seems neither particularly cheap nor friendly / relaxing.
The KP7 streetwalker scene is a bit similar to the scene around Lumphini park. KP7 may have more girls, but Lumphini is better lit and far more pleasant on foot.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the information!
If you could tell me. Do these girls go for LT!
I always stay nearby. In soi 11. Le fenix!
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1219408]Well, in 2010 there was massive flooding in the north and south of Thailand. And yet it never got mentioned on here, and people came and enjoyed their holidays.
Funny how when the floods effect the rest of Thailand nobody cares, but if Bangkok gets a little wet then its such a major problem and must be reported 500 times a day.
Where was your concern in 2010?
Anyone who cancelled their trip made a big mistake, anyone who said Sukhumvit was going to get flooded, made a big mistake.
All I would suggest is you listen to people who really know Thailand more. And people who know very little actually about Thailand a lot less.[/QUOTE]Clearly your answer confirms my point.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1219408]Well, in 2010 there was massive flooding in the north and south of Thailand. And yet it never got mentioned on here, and people came and enjoyed their holidays.
Funny how when the floods effect the rest of Thailand nobody cares, but if Bangkok gets a little wet then its such a major problem and must be reported 500 times a day.
Where was your concern in 2010?
Anyone who cancelled their trip made a big mistake, anyone who said Sukhumvit was going to get flooded, made a big mistake.
All I would suggest is you listen to people who really know Thailand more. And people who know very little actually about Thailand a lot less.[/QUOTE]Are north and south usually as full of tourists (the travelers) as BKK?
Are you going to travel to an area that is in emergency? And adding your needs (food and beverages to say the least) to those of the locals, struggling to get supplies.
In an emergency prices go more through demand, more if there is high demand because of tourist that can affordnto pay the double for these as still 1/10 of their price at home. In need you pay whatever, regardless of what price police says.
And what if sukhumvit got in troubles: dry but surrounded by waters?
Can you imagine the logistic consequences?
Natural catastrophes don't need tourists.
They need help and support and wise mind.
Thinking with big head and not little head.
After Fukushima and its tsunami it was surely safe to go to Osaka, but japan didn't need more people consuming food, drinks, electricity, fuel as there was not enough for the country.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1219450]There isn't much to say, yes you got the right road, it's here:
[url]http://g.co/maps/kbwhq.[/url]
The action is on the stretch between Phet Uthai road and Rachada (Makkasan AL / Phetchaburi MRT are nearby).
It's a Thai-oriented scene, gets going after 10 or 11 pm. Girls are obviously pimped, and they stand off the side of a rather dark road, taking with customers who drive by in cars or taxis. Prices are 1200-1500 for a Farang (and 700-1000 for a Thai according to a taxi driver) for the basic one-shot ST in one of the hotels in the area. Not my cup of tea, seems neither particularly cheap nor friendly / relaxing.
The KP7 streetwalker scene is a bit similar to the scene around Lumphini park. KP7 may have more girls, but Lumphini is better lit and far more pleasant on foot.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that even my Thai friends (who like most Thais care only very little for service) remark that the service in that soi is astoundingly bad. They paid closer to the farang price you quote as well.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1219408]Well, in 2010 there was massive flooding in the north and south of Thailand. And yet it never got mentioned on here, and people came and enjoyed their holidays.
Funny how when the floods effect the rest of Thailand nobody cares, but if Bangkok gets a little wet then its such a major problem and must be reported 500 times a day.
Where was your concern in 2010?
Anyone who cancelled their trip made a big mistake, anyone who said Sukhumvit was going to get flooded, made a big mistake.
All I would suggest is you listen to people who really know Thailand more. And people who know very little actually about Thailand a lot less.[/QUOTE]I agree with ya. If Dream is so concerned about people suffering, why monger? I'm sure a lot of these girls are suffering and don't want to sleep with a lot of guys but they have to because of the money. I'm pretty sure they don't want to sleep with someone that's fat, overweight, ugly, foreigner, etc. Yet, that doesn't seem to stop no one from mongering. Next time just BF her, pay her for a long time and let her go home!
Hi BJ here.
Just started reading a book given to me by a friend called 'private dancer' haven't read much yet, but looks like it will be good.
Well the girl I have seen a few times organized another sex session for us last night and I reckon this was probably the best in my entire life.
The other two were friends of the regular but to my delight were much younger and better looking. I decided to start with a few shots of whisky all round, obviously not any of the good stuff I'm not daft. One of the new ones suggested we all have a bath together (luckily I have a large enough bath)
Having all three dry me off got me right in the mood, so I decided to be much more pro-active than last time and swiftly moved the party straight to the bedroom. One of the new ones wasn't keen to try any lesbo stuff, but I thought no problem, there's plenty more to go round so I started her off giving me a BJ while the other two got ripped into each other. Not sure what the bigger turn-on was, her sucking like it was the last knob she was going to get or the other two hammering away for dear life.
Each one sucked me off and I had to tell them to calm down or this wasn't going to last. Doing one of the new ones doggy we managed to incorporate everyone into the mix, snogging the other new one, while the regular got a right royal lick out (bloody unfair how women can orgasm multiple times and we can't)
Next move was to get the other new girl to lean against the window with me behind her, curtains open, not too sure if the screaming was genuine or not but it worked for me. I noticed some lights coming on in the apartments opposite and it made me feel 10 feet tall. I am sure if they were looking they would have seen her tit's being squished against the window, inflating and deflating.
I entertained the new lass, who didn't like lesbo and got the other two to scissor each other, eventually all four of us were writhing together on the bed with arms, legs and pussies everywhere you looked.
I had to have a time out then, I'm not 25 anymore although I try to behave like I am. I connected my laptop up to the 42 inch T. V and put on some seventies porn, the ones with the wah wah music and the terrible story lines. Next I lay down and got each of them to jump on top of me in turn, whilst licking whoever's pussie wasn't busy at the time.
Never been a big fan of arse licking TBH, always better to receive than to dish it out. But I can survive without it. By this time I was starting to get tired so I decided to lick out each of them, while getting a BJ, then finished off by shagging each of them in the straight forward missionary position. I only just managed to get onto the last one and 2 minutes later had an amazing load blow.
What a fantastic night and all three of them seemed contented as well, lucky for them as this was not my mission goal, I'm a firm believer in the 'charity starts at home' doctrine.
Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.
Ciao, BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219560]Hi BJ here.
Just started reading a book given to me by a friend called 'private dancer' haven't read much yet, but looks like it will be good.
Well the girl I have seen a few times organized another sex session for us last night and I reckon this was probably the best in my entire life.
The other two were friends of the regular but to my delight were much younger and better looking. I decided to start with a few shots of whisky all round, obviously not any of the good stuff I'm not daft. One of the new ones suggested we all have a bath together (luckily I have a large enough bath)
Having all three dry me off got me right in the mood, so I decided to be much more pro-active than last time and swiftly moved the party straight to the bedroom. One of the new ones wasn't keen to try any lesbo stuff, but I thought no problem, there's plenty more to go round so I started her off giving me a BJ while the other two got ripped into each other. Not sure what the bigger turn-on was, her sucking like it was the last knob she was going to get or the other two hammering away for dear life.
Each one sucked me off and I had to tell them to calm down or this wasn't going to last. Doing one of the new ones doggy we managed to incorporate everyone into the mix, snogging the other new one, while the regular got a right royal lick out (bloody unfair how women can orgasm multiple times and we can't)
Next move was to get the other new girl to lean against the window with me behind her, curtains open, not too sure if the screaming was genuine or not but it worked for me. I noticed some lights coming on in the apartments opposite and it made me feel 10 feet tall. I am sure if they were looking they would have seen her tit's being squished against the window, inflating and deflating.
I entertained the new lass, who didn't like lesbo and got the other two to scissor each other, eventually all four of us were writhing together on the bed with arms, legs and pussies everywhere you looked.
I had to have a time out then, I'm not 25 anymore although I try to behave like I am. I connected my laptop up to the 42 inch T. V and put on some seventies porn, the ones with the wah wah music and the terrible story lines. Next I lay down and got each of them to jump on top of me in turn, whilst licking whoever's pussie wasn't busy at the time.
Never been a big fan of arse licking TBH, always better to receive than to dish it out. But I can survive without it. By this time I was starting to get tired so I decided to lick out each of them, while getting a BJ, then finished off by shagging each of them in the straight forward missionary position. I only just managed to get onto the last one and 2 minutes later had an amazing load blow.
What a fantastic night and all three of them seemed contented as well, lucky for them as this was not my mission goal, I'm a firm believer in the 'charity starts at home' doctrine.
Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.
Ciao, BJ[/QUOTE]You get my vote for post of the year! A few more details as to the connection with all these young ladies and prices paid might be nice, but like I said, post of the year. That is why we live here!
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1219519]If Dream is so concerned about people suffering, why monger? I'm sure a lot of these girls are suffering and don't want to sleep with a lot of guys but they have to because of the money. I'm pretty sure they don't want to sleep with someone that's fat, overweight, ugly, foreigner, etc. Yet, that doesn't seem to stop no one from mongering. Next time just BF her, pay her for a long time and let her go home![/QUOTE]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!
Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.
I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!
Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.
I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!
Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.
I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]This was a really good post. I agree with most of it.
On your question: Is there something morally wrong with P4P? It depends on what a persons morals are. It is like any other judgement, which is usually based on religion. I interact with a lot of Christians. The ones I know are outwardly deadset against P4P. They believe it promotes treating women as less than human, spreads diseases, and is generally bad for society. The US self claims to be a "Christian Nation" which is why wide spread legalization will never happen here.
Funny thing about several of the married Christian guys. They are having affairs. Of course, they don't want to talk about that.
After entering Soi 7/1 from Sukhumvit (Subway on the corner) , where are you relative to Eden? Just past Eden or before? On right side or the left? Thank You
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!
Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.
I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]Natty.
Very well put.
Always amazes me when mongers express guilt or the feeling they are doing something wrong.
Doubt is a great example of negative religious training or the mind fuck of the dreaded Western Fem Nazi influence that creates guilt for basic human needs.
Males are born to spread seed. It's in our genes / jeans and I for one cherish this opportunity.
P4P is a simply exchange of services / cash that dates back to the beginning of mankind. Both participants benefit. With respect, humor and basic human consideration it's a win win for both parties.
After 40 years of P4P I have had a high percentage of positive experiences. I think that it has a lot to do with how one approaches the sessions.
I started mongering at age 14 and plan to continue as long as possible.
IMHO I am doing nothing wrong.
I have difficulty understanding the guilt referenced on these boards.
Walk of shame?
Shit- Walk of pride, my old ass is getting some prime tonight.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88; 1219711]Natty.
Very well put.
Always amazes me when mongers express guilt or the feeling they are doing something wrong.
Doubt is a great example of negative religious training or the mind fuck of the dreaded Western Fem Nazi influence that creates guilt for basic human needs.
Males are born to spread seed. It's in our genes / jeans and I for one cherish this opportunity.
P4P is a simply exchange of services / cash that dates back to the beginning of mankind. Both participants benefit. With respect, humor and basic human consideration it's a win win for both parties.
After 40 years of P4P I have had a high percentage of positive experiences. I think that it has a lot to do with how one approaches the sessions.
I started mongering at age 14 and plan to continue as long as possible.
IMHO I am doing nothing wrong.
I have difficulty understanding the guilt referenced on these boards.
Walk of shame?
Shit- Walk of pride, my old ass is getting some prime tonight.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Good one.
I have never understood the "walk of shame". I always walk by with a big smile on my face. I am happy and proud of the fact that I will be getting some pussy!
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1219707]After entering Soi 7/1 from Sukhumvit (Subway on the corner) , where are you relative to Eden? Just past Eden or before? On right side or the left? Thank You[/QUOTE]Hi BJ here.
We are just passed eden on the right hand side as you walk down from Nana BTS.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1219721]Good one.
I have never understood the "walk of shame". I always walk by with a big smile on my face. I am happy and proud of the fact that I will be getting some pussy![/QUOTE]Are you sure the "pussy" is not getting you? ;)
Certainly one of the fantasies to be put on the checklist. A price for the experience would be great, and the source of the girls. Getting 3 girls is not hard, getting them to play together is the hard part.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219560]Hi BJ here.
Just started reading a book given to me by a friend called 'private dancer' haven't read much yet, but looks like it will be good.
Well the girl I have seen a few times organized another sex session for us last night and I reckon this was probably the best in my entire life.
The other two were friends of the regular but to my delight were much younger and better looking. I decided to start with a few shots of whisky all round, obviously not any of the good stuff I'm not daft. One of the new ones suggested we all have a bath together (luckily I have a large enough bath)
Having all three dry me off got me right in the mood, so I decided to be much more pro-active than last time and swiftly moved the party straight to the bedroom. One of the new ones wasn't keen to try any lesbo stuff, but I thought no problem, there's plenty more to go round so I started her off giving me a BJ while the other two got ripped into each other. Not sure what the bigger turn-on was, her sucking like it was the last knob she was going to get or the other two hammering away for dear life.
Each one sucked me off and I had to tell them to calm down or this wasn't going to last. Doing one of the new ones doggy we managed to incorporate everyone into the mix, snogging the other new one, while the regular got a right royal lick out (bloody unfair how women can orgasm multiple times and we can't)
Next move was to get the other new girl to lean against the window with me behind her, curtains open, not too sure if the screaming was genuine or not but it worked for me. I noticed some lights coming on in the apartments opposite and it made me feel 10 feet tall. I am sure if they were looking they would have seen her tit's being squished against the window, inflating and deflating.
I entertained the new lass, who didn't like lesbo and got the other two to scissor each other, eventually all four of us were writhing together on the bed with arms, legs and pussies everywhere you looked.
I had to have a time out then, I'm not 25 anymore although I try to behave like I am. I connected my laptop up to the 42 inch T. V and put on some seventies porn, the ones with the wah wah music and the terrible story lines. Next I lay down and got each of them to jump on top of me in turn, whilst licking whoever's pussie wasn't busy at the time.
Never been a big fan of arse licking TBH, always better to receive than to dish it out. But I can survive without it. By this time I was starting to get tired so I decided to lick out each of them, while getting a BJ, then finished off by shagging each of them in the straight forward missionary position. I only just managed to get onto the last one and 2 minutes later had an amazing load blow.
What a fantastic night and all three of them seemed contented as well, lucky for them as this was not my mission goal, I'm a firm believer in the 'charity starts at home' doctrine.
Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.
Ciao, BJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oldian;1219586]You get my vote for post of the year! A few more details as to the connection with all these young ladies and prices paid might be nice, but like I said, post of the year. That is why we live here![/QUOTE]The connection with the young ladies was, firends of the semi perm GF. No money paid by me, the perm fixture may have, did'nt ask TBH. I provided the room, porn, whisky, air con and cock. For the original threesome last week, Spanky's was the go-go bar where I found my choice for the BG. Cost B2500 and she left just after breakfast. I don't mind paying the extra B300. B500 for better looks and she was one of the better looking ones.
[QUOTE=YG365;1219687]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it![/QUOTE]I totally agree with Natty.
I only said that when there are major problems around, and a lot of ordinary people, nor specifically WGs, having major problems to survive, I find it difficult to enjoy my mongering. And orefer waiting for better timnes to come back. That has nothing to do with "morality" of mongering, a discussion that should be taken to the relvant specific thread.
End of discussion?
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219560]Hi BJ here.
Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.
Ciao, BJ[/QUOTE]Dr. BJ. I think since many a dick long years I'm reading such an elaborate report in BKK section. Kudos. Script looked good for a Vivid video. Enjoyed it immensely.
Planning to visit your salon during my next visit to LOS and hope to find such girls there.)
AK
[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1219519]I'm sure a lot of these girls are suffering and don't want to sleep with a lot of guys but they have to because of the money.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls do support thier families, however this might cost 5-10, 000 baht tops. I knew a girl who could not wash and dry her own hair. 300 baht a pop almost everyday, not to mention her nails. These girls will waste just as much money as they make.
[QUOTE=YG365;1219687]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it![/QUOTE]I don't want to make any blanket statements. There are some gems out there, there are some horrors, there are some girls that absolutely HATE what they are doing and don't belong in the trade, and there are others who appear to enjoy it. However, it is my experience that a very large number of girls, even given the option to join 70-80% of the rest of the society and get an office job or be helped out to do that by a farang, would not. One of my regulars, who has a 50, 000 baht a month sponsor, asked me how she could live if a farang only gave her 10, 000 a month. I told her 10, 000, plus your rent and food is free, he takes care of the bills, and you then stop in the bar and go to a cheap uni like Ramkamhaeng, get a basic degree that allows you to get a 12-15, 000 baht a month salary. When you add that all up, for a girl from her background, that is damn damn good. Yet I'd venture that 70-80% of them wouldn't take it. It is far easier to remain in the trade, make extremely large salaries by Thai standards per month, and sleep all day. I have had several women over the years who have gone for the former, only to drop out at some point because they would far rather take the easy way out. You don't see the office ladies earning 15, 000, who have no sponsor and work their tails off every day complaining about life and being bitter. They get on with it, smile, and make the best they can. I see girls here preying on western guilt day in and day out, and they are the masters of working it.
I agree with most of what you say. The only point I might discuss is that the US claims to be "christian nation". Those that claim that usually are from the religious right. Most of the US does not belong to that right wing group. They claim that the US was founded as a "christian nation". Well, not exactly. The US came about because of business, the Massachuetts Bay company being one if the first. The pilgrams came to escape religious persecution and were very intollerant of other groups or there specific theology. Thus the founding of Rhode Island as a state. Today they are more of a hate group. By that I mean they don't want immigration, hate gays, don't want jews or other groups around. (See Mormons) believe gambling is a sin, and heaven forbid drinking a beer. Now they will tell you they don't hate but just watch what they back and what they do, not what they say.
We had a joke about the Southern Baptist. There are only 2 times they will have a drink. When they are alone or with someone. Not to pick on one religious group over another.
I believe this will pass but you and I won't be around to see it. Europe eventually changed to allowing different forms of prostition. The US is not any where near the age of the Europeans cultures. Now will it be open, tolerated, and accepted as other parts of the world, I doubt it.
This is only my opinion. With it and $2. 00 I can get a cup of coffee somewhere. So lets get back to BKK and the many pleasures it offers
[QUOTE=Oldian;1219857]I don't want to make any blanket statements. There are some gems out there, there are some horrors, there are some girls that absolutely HATE what they are doing and don't belong in the trade, and there are others who appear to enjoy it. However, it is my experience that a very large number of girls, even given the option to join 70-80% of the rest of the society and get an office job or be helped out to do that by a farang, would not. One of my regulars, who has a 50, 000 baht a month sponsor, asked me how she could live if a farang only gave her 10, 000 a month. I told her 10, 000, plus your rent and food is free, he takes care of the bills, and you then stop in the bar and go to a cheap uni like Ramkamhaeng, get a basic degree that allows you to get a 12-15, 000 baht a month salary. When you add that all up, for a girl from her background, that is damn damn good. Yet I'd venture that 70-80% of them wouldn't take it. It is far easier to remain in the trade, make extremely large salaries by Thai standards per month, and sleep all day. I have had several women over the years who have gone for the former, only to drop out at some point because they would far rather take the easy way out. You don't see the office ladies earning 15, 000, who have no sponsor and work their tails off every day complaining about life and being bitter. They get on with it, smile, and make the best they can. I see girls here preying on western guilt day in and day out, and they are the masters of working it.[/QUOTE]Well stated. It is the easy way out. No doubt about it. There are lots of girls from poor families that work their way through Uni and get jobs making 12-15k and do ok.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1219857](snip) I see girls here preying on western guilt day in and day out, and they are the masters of working it.[/QUOTE]Great, and so true!
And, as P. T. Barnum once said, "there is a sucker born every minute."
[QUOTE=Oidar;1219830]I knew a girl who could not wash and dry her own hair. 300 baht a pop almost everyday, not to mention her nails. These girls will waste just as much money as they make.[/QUOTE]Just the psychological reward for allowing fat, old, foreign men to bore them, grope them, and stick their dicks in various orifices!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1219925]Just the psychological reward for allowing fat, old, foreign men to bore them, grope them, and stick their dicks in various orifices![/QUOTE]Very well put sir! And in my humble opinion is both the psychological reward and also the physical satisfaction that someone else is doing things with parts of her body that she enjoys!
I'm quite familiar with Bangkok scene cause my company sends me to BKK 4-5 times a year. Next trip I'll have 2 spare days and have an idea to go to Pattaya. Is this worth to go there for 2 days instead have fun in BKK? Thanks in advice!
Cheers.
T. 72
[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1220023]I'm quite familiar with Bangkok scene cause my company sends me to BKK 4-5 times a year. Next trip I'll have 2 spare days and have an idea to go to Pattaya. Is this worth to go there for 2 days instead have fun in BKK? Thanks in advice! T. 72[/QUOTE]T, If you like the Bangkok scene and have never been to Pattaya, then you must go. Personally, I prefer Bangkok because of the variety of high quality massage parlors and because I like the big city and all it can offer over the resort town with a polluted beach. But many others prefer Pattaya. I would estimate it is probably a 55 to 45 preference in favor of Pattaya on the forum. Pattaya is definitely ground zero for Thai pussy and there is no place on Earth I know of with a higher concentration of bars, Go Go's and girls per square block. In 2002 I was like sort of like you. I had been to Bangkok 5 or 6 times and dug it, but had never been to Pattaya. While I was visiting Bangkok, I called up a freind of mine who lived and worked in Pat at the time just to say hello. He insisted I come down and spend a few days. I did and the town blew me away. Go, see for yourself. 2 days will leave you wanting more.
[QUOTE=Tabasco72; 1220023]I'm quite familiar with Bangkok scene cause my company sends me to BKK 4-5 times a year. Next trip I'll have 2 spare days and have an idea to go to Pattaya. Is this worth to go there for 2 days instead have fun in BKK? Thanks in advice!
Cheers.
T. 72[/QUOTE]My (very personal of course) opinion is that Pattaya is not worthing a visit. I live in Bangkok I've visited Pattaya once out of curiosity and I'll never go back. Main 3 reasons:
1. And let my say first that I am very sorry that I'll offend some readers with the first point: The extremely low quality and disgusting behaviour of mongers. I haven't see a single mognering place with worst patrons. The average monger is a drunk, ugly, fat, dissgusting person looking for cheap pussy. Most of them are people that I bet they have no chance of getting laid back to their countries (and maybe lot of them not even getting laid with a prostitute). There are exceptions of course but the everage is bad, very bad. And yes these kind pf mongers are present in Bangkok also but in much less numbers.
2. No additional services or options in comparison to Bangkok.
3. Quality of girls is (again in my humble opinion) lower than Bangkok.
So my suggestion is: If you have a good time in Bangkok, you'll find nothing more in Pattaya so play safe and stay in Bangok.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1220038]T, . I did and the town blew me away. Go, see for yourself. 2 days will leave you wanting more.[/QUOTE]Amen to that!
I think it depends on how you define the scene, you might love it or hate it, there are parts that I do not particularly like. BUT there is no other place quite like it on earth that I am aware of and overall I prefer it to Bangkok by a slim margin. Do not believe everything you read about lack of quality. I think one has to search a bit harder for quality in either city these days. But it is there. If you do like it 2 days will leave you panting.
C4T
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219736]Hi BJ here.
We are just passed eden on the right hand side as you walk down from Nana BTS.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got a pretty ideal spot, if you are in the place that used to be Magic Table. French guy ran it, and it was pretty good place to hang out, have some fun, whatever.
[QUOTE=Lifeingr; 1220109]My (very personal of course) opinion is that Pattaya is not worthing a visit. I live in Bangkok I've visited Pattaya once out of curiosity and I'll never go back. Main 3 reasons:
1. And let my say first that I am very sorry that I'll offend some readers with the first point: The extremely low quality and disgusting behaviour of mongers. I haven't see a single mognering place with worst patrons. The average monger is a drunk, ugly, fat, dissgusting person looking for cheap pussy. Most of them are people that I bet they have no chance of getting laid back to their countries (and maybe lot of them not even getting laid with a prostitute). There are exceptions of course but the everage is bad, very bad. And yes these kind pf mongers are present in Bangkok also but in much less numbers.
2. No additional services or options in comparison to Bangkok.
3. Quality of girls is (again in my humble opinion) lower than Bangkok.
So my suggestion is: If you have a good time in Bangkok, you'll find nothing more in Pattaya so play safe and stay in Bangok.[/QUOTE]1 I totally agree with you. The advantage: there are so many creeps (I'm less polite than you) that girls are so happy to meet smart guys. I found it very easy to get girls to prefer me in Pattaya.
2- No additional, but cheaper + the more relaxed atmosphere (I don't feel relaxed in BKK with all the noise, pollution, traffic, etc.)
3- I don't agree. I found more quality for acceptable price (of course if you are ready to pay 5000+ you have much more options in BKK.
[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1220023]I'm quite familiar with Bangkok scene cause my company sends me to BKK 4-5 times a year. Next trip I'll have 2 spare days and have an idea to go to Pattaya. Is this worth to go there for 2 days instead have fun in BKK?[/QUOTE]You have to remember there are different strokes for different folks. It looks like you are going to get a different answer from every monger. The only way to put the issue to rest is to visit yourself. My first time me and a wingman went for only 1 day. I actually went to meet a girl I met on TLL. She took me out and everything but I still didn't get the magnanimity of the scene until I went back again without the prearranged female company. I haven't looked back since and only go to BKK if I have some business to handle there or if there are friends whose first time it is in Thailand and I have to show them around.
A friend of a friend who lives between Angeles City and Pattaya arrived yesterday. He has been living in AC for quite a while but is trying Pattaya out for a few months. He had been to BKK before. You will see many guys trying to compare AC with Pattaya. In his opinion the two shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. After only one day he could not understand why someone would choose AC over Pattaya. Most guys will say it's a language thing. But I haven't met too many women who work in the service industry in Pattaya that didn't speak some kind of English.
Like you said Mr. E, different strokes.
I feel that BKK is head and shoulders better than these places for:
Transportation.
Food.
Hotels.
Quantity of girls.
Selection of places to go.
Quality of people.
Prices.
Stunners.
I don't feel it is even close.
But, to me if you are a true monger though, you need to go to Pats at least once for a few days. I like it and always have a good time there. To see Soi 6 and WS is worth the trip.
Hi BJ here.
I would like to recommend a book, sure it has been done before but I would like to give it a bump. I started reading it last week. It is called 'private dancer 'and records the experiences of an English guy sent to Bangkok to revise a travel guide.
Unfortunately he falls in love with a bar girl from Nana plaza, very quickly, and I'm sure trouble lies ahead for the poor guy. Essential reading for anyone's friend who may be visiting for the first time. It will give them a flavor of the pitfalls and mistakes made by first timers and hopefully a head start on avoiding some of them.
I went out the other day with my other business partner, not Aey, to some very nice places around the city. The first place we went to was the Landmark hotel in Suk for a buffet dinner. You pay individually, at the end, for your food and also your drinks. Not really that expensive when you consider the choice of food and booze available. The buffet was not huge but big for the money spent, there were individual tables dedicated to each type of food. A seafood, a Thai, a European and a few others, finally at the top they had a carvery with all the usual stuff.
The quality of the food was very very impressive but not the best. The array of drinks was as large and varied as the choice of food was, as soon as you sit down you can order almost whatever drink you can imagine from beer right through the spectrum to cocktails and everything in between. As tempting as it would appear we, there was four of us, were quite restrained on the drinks side. Don't get me wrong we had our fair share, but we had other places in mind for later in the night.
After the landmark we decided to go to Tawandaeng on rama 4 road (the place where they brew their own beer on the premises) It's a very nice place and the beer is highly recommended, they bring it round in these large cylindrical tubes. After a few ales we ordered some snacks, nothing too heavy, as it was only a few hours after we had eaten. Some deep fried pork knuckle and some excellent German sausages. They have a stage show as well, in Thai, which looked well choreographed but embarrassingly, my Thai is not what it should be, so didn't understand much. The sort of place which would be good to take a girl or a business associate to see something different to the Suk area.
After some debate we concluded the evening with a visit to the state tower for a few late night cocktails. A bit pricey for the drinks but the view is stunning, can't remember how many floors there are but it's a lot. After a few drinks we all felt a bit pissed, so jumped in a taxi and called it a night, or so I thought!
I found myself being earnestly drawn towards Soi Cowboy as it was only half twelve. I went into a couple of bars and wound up in long gun. I had a red bull before going in to pep myself up a bit then sat back and enjoyed the shows.
Trying to convince myself I was only there for the beer and the shows, all my determination evaporated when I saw this tiny little bird on the left side of the dance stage. She was about 5 feet tall with a long dyed bob hairstyle stunning natural boobs and a body fitting with the rest of her.
Before I knew it the bar fine was paid and I was in a taxi with her on my way home. We showered together and it was then she told me she was nineteen YES (looked much younger, as they do) I felt comfortable talking on the bed for a bit, rather than just jumping on her. After we got started I decided I had to lick her out and it tasted like honey on toast, very well presented pussy it was too. Asides from the usual stuff the BJ didn't start off well (being nineteen I thought as much) but she responded well to my prompts and soon had the soldier on parade.
I started off with her on top and my god she was as tight as a mouse's ear, I thought I was going to need a shoe horn to get it in. The grimacing on her face and the moaning and groaning served to turn me on even more and those firm young tits were an absolute delight.
After a quick spell doing doggy I turned her over and smashed her to bits, what a fantastic cum. I gave her a 500BT tip on top of the 2000 price, trust me she had earned it and I went to bed with a huge grin. Great day it has to be said.
Ciao, BJ
I want to sample the Freelancer scene, especially near soi cowboy area.
Any suggestions which area I should go to, around what time and expected cost of st / LT?
Also are there any online options worth trying?
[quote=guido88; 1219711]walk of shame?
Shit- walk of pride, my old ass is getting some prime tonight.
Guido88[/quote]lol. Very well put indeed!
I was reading an article about AIDS / HIV and it stated that there are far more THai hookers that work in prostitution for only Thai men.
I assumed that most Thai girls work as hookers to make most money from ferang?
What hookers woudl chose to go with only Thais?
DO you think perhaps the article refers to the whole of Thailadn and rural places. Therefore in all the small citites aroudn Thailand there are many Thai only hookers?
Whereas in Bangkok and PAttaya most hookers go with farangs?
MOre money is to be made if they get job as prostiute in BKK / Pattaya with farangs?
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1220680]I was reading an article about AIDS / HIV and it stated that there are far more THai hookers that work in prostitution for only Thai men.
I assumed that most Thai girls work as hookers to make most money from ferang?
What hookers woudl chose to go with only Thais?
DO you think perhaps the article refers to the whole of Thailadn and rural places. Therefore in all the small citites aroudn Thailand there are many Thai only hookers?
Whereas in Bangkok and PAttaya most hookers go with farangs?
MOre money is to be made if they get job as prostiute in BKK / Pattaya with farangs?[/QUOTE]There are 80 million thai people in Thailand and about 7 million visitors any one year, all the girls would starve if they only banged foreigners. The thai men are more horny and pay way less than us, so a bit more volume makes the money add up quicker. Plus there would be lots of thai women who speak anything but thai, so how to do.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1220723]There are 80 million thai people in Thailand and about 7 million visitors any one year, all the girls would starve if they only banged foreigners. The thai men are more horny and pay way less than us, so a bit more volume makes the money add up quicker. Plus there would be lots of thai women who speak anything but thai, so how to do.[/QUOTE]To keep everyone on the right page, I did a quick fact check.
The current population of Thailand is 66,720,153 (July 2011 est.).
Source: [url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/th.html[/url]
According to the Tourism Authority of Thailand, there were 14.5 million visitors in 2007.
Source: [url]http://www2.tat.or.th/stat/web/static_index.php[/url]
"According to reliable surveys of sexual behavior, every day at least 450,000 Thai men visit prostitutes. Thus, much of the impetus sustaining the incredible rate of prostitution in Thailand is cultural, "Thai men think it is their right to have cheap sex, and there are enough poor Thai women to make it possible."
Source: [url]http://www.sexwork.com/Thailand/traditiions.html[/url]
The above citation is from an older article (1991), but still interesting:
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/14/magazine/a-plague-awaits.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm[/url]
And, an interesting summary article from Stickman:
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/reader/reader291.html[/url]
hi bj here.
had a much needed day off and after sleeping as late as possible decided to get up around 11 o'clock. wasn't sure what to do with my time so went for a wander around sukhumvit, got bored with that pretty quickly so jumped on the bts and went up to siam paragon.
went for something to eat but fancied a change from thai food so ended up in an italian restaurant. after having a very good laugh at the price of the red wine (1, 800 bt for a bottle) i chose spaghetti carbonara which i have to say was very nice indeed.
thought a movie would be a good idea, so i went to see the tower heist. definitely not a great movie but had a good cast and sufficed for some light hearted entertainment.
felt a bit knackered after that so went home for a bit of a kip which was just what the doctor ordered, excuse the pun. met up with the semi regular bird about ten ish and asked her to decide on where to go. ended up at some open air joint where they bring round this large metal cooking pot with a domed lid on it and water round the edge. it's a buffet arrangement (although she kept referring to it as a bbq, i can kind of see where she is coming from) well you cook the food yourself and i thought this is going to take a while so ordered up 2 beers and was pleasantly surprised when the waitress brought out 2 large bottles. the semi regular took care of the cooking part so i concentrated on the beer drinking part, she peeled the prawns and all that kind of shit and i just sat back and ate. i am still amazed at thai people's capacity to eat, way after i was full she just kept putting the stuff away and we were the last people to leave the place.
on the way home, we stopped into a pool bar for a couple of games and a couple of drinks, then headed off. when we jumped into bed and started the usual grope fest followed by the mandatory bj (have to give it to her she is a bit of a maestro on the skin flute) she started telling me she had read a magazine which said that farangs are partial to a bit of anal, bingo! now although i do like it to be honest i'm not one that sees it as a compulsory part of sex, can take it or leave it if the truth be told, but had never tried it with her. i'm not sure if our recent group sessions or the alcohol she had consumed had made her feel a bit more liberated, but i wasn't about to start questioning her motivation. i slipped a condom on and bent her legs up close to her ears. i did show enough respect to ease it in gradually via some ky jelly and when she was eventually loosened up started slamming away. she did seem to enjoy it eventually, lucky for her, so i turned her over onto all fours and carried on, i was considerate enough to give her a reach-around. not pointing out the obvious but it was a lot tighter than her pussy, which is part of the fun and did have a nice jolting cum. was pretty tired by that point so after going into the shower jumped into bed and crashed out.
time very well spent for a day off i think.
ciao, bj
Checking in from E. Europe and the Middle East here. This place is a monger's dream then? I should go? Russia has been my favorite so far. Cheap, easy and great service.
Guys, a friend is now in BKK and is gettiing some heavy news. He says all the girls in Nana are wanting 600 BF and 4000 for LT. He says they are sticking to that and you pay the bar the whole amount before you leave. Knowing we not in AC I believe this is new operation or is he hiting the wrong places. He did get one down to 3000. Don't know if he paid the whole thing up front. I do know he has been going to the Rainbow bars in Nana. Some Aussie told him the same pricing in Soi Cowboy. He also mentioned a FL for 2 hours he found for 1000 Baht.
I told him 3000 for LT should be the top end and 1500 to 2500 for ST depending on the girl.
I should add he is of Chinese decent although he was US born and raised. Wondering if that look might have something to do with it : Thinking he might be one of the Japanese and should spend big bucks.
Any help on this subject that is current will help. I have told him to go other places and named a few for him to look at.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1220793]Guys, a friend is now in BKK and is gettiing some heavy news.[/QUOTE]I was in both Nana and soi cowboy some 6-8 weeks ago on a discovery mission hitting a lot of gogo.
In all of them the mama San was showing the customers a printed card on the back of their bar I'd card reading exactly what you say: bar fine 600. ST 2000, LT 4000.
Casual or non informed mongers might go for that as the price is good by western standards.
But we know it is inflated, especially if it is a hit or miss. I paid 4k for a non gogo bar girl I knew and I knew what I was gettijg. Not FIR a blind jump as such.
Also better book for ST. And tell her you extend to' LT if she does her job well.
Well the final countdown has begun. Beijing far behind in the dust I wait with anticipation. 7 days. I have been watching the board and it is getting much better. But seems to be still a lot of debates here. I had some great times in Beijing and Tianjin and more fun reporting on here. So how about stopping the needless debates about BKK or Pattaya or you pay too much! Lets here so quality reports! Here is my dilemma. Where should I go first to break my cherry in BKK, Soi Cowboy, Nana, can anyone give me a suggestion? I love the bar scene and the pleasure of the hunt! I frequented Maggies, Chocolate, Zhu in Beijing all the time plus others in Tianjin. Thrill of the hunt is the best! Can anyone recommend a place similar to Maggies in BKK? I am also very open to meeting up with a fellow member for a night out! Pm me if interested. But be warned it could get ugly! Drunken threesomes 2 girls on one are my specialty. So be prepared for a 2 guy 4 girl all out orgy maybe LOL!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1220804]I was in both Nana and soi cowboy some 6-8 weeks ago on a discovery mission hitting a lot of gogo.
In all of them the mama San was showing the customers a printed card on the back of their bar I'd card reading exactly what you say: bar fine 600. ST 2000, LT 4000.
But we know it is inflated, especially if it is a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Wow! I take this new LT Go Go price as an insult. If a girl quotes me this rate, I intend to laugh right in her face (in a casual easy way of course). It is not that I can't afford it, but this is truly outrageous. Most of the Go Go girls are just not worth it IMHO. Last February, I spotted only a few stunners in Baccara way down from the number I saw in 2010 and paying up front almost insures mediocre performance. If they don't respect me, I don't see why I should do business with them. Fuck it. There is no economic justification for it. Inflation? Short Supply? NO! Don't these people know the world (including Thailand) is on the precipace of economic recession. What are the numbers on Thai tourism? Not up. Bangkok hotels are offering really good deals again. So it just looks like greed and a little stupidity combined with a lack of respect for the farang that is driving these price hikes. If this is the new reality, I will take my business to the massage parlors exclusively and do more outcalls. I may end up spending more money, but the girls will be better. I go for quality. Still I can't quite believe it. They may start out asking for 4000bt LT, but I think they will come down off that if you act like you know what you are doing and are prepared to leave them in the dust. Maybe not. I will find out it Feb. Good advice B Man:
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1220804]better book for ST. And tell her you extend to' LT if she does her job well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1220809]Here is my dilemma. Where should I go first to break my cherry in BKK, Soi Cowboy, Nana, can anyone give me a suggestion? I love the bar scene and the pleasure of the hunt![/QUOTE]I like the bar scene too Mooris, but the massage parlors are better IMHO (I have used this expression twice in my two last posts). But don't take my word for it. My advice to you is hit Baccara & Rainbow IV (arguably the best Go Go's in town) on your first two nights. You will have a good time and be thoroughly ensconced in the BKK Go Go scene. Then check out Mango Massage, Baccara (expensive – but top talent) and Copa Cabana and see which venues you prefer - Go Go, Oily, or Soapy. To get you pointed in the right direction, take a look here: http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/home.php?
The great thing about BKK is all the different options available and the great food.
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1220680]I assumed that most Thai girls work as hookers to make most money from ferang?
What hookers woudl chose to go with only Thais?
DO you think perhaps the article refers to the whole of Thailadn and rural places. Therefore in all the small citites aroudn Thailand there are many Thai only hookers?
Whereas in Bangkok and PAttaya most hookers go with farangs?
MOre money is to be made if they get job as prostiute in BKK / Pattaya with farangs?[/QUOTE]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1220836]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I thought it was more common for Thai men not to use condoms?
So, how would a farang go about finding lighter skinned more attractive Thai girls? He can't? These girls work in establishments that only Thai men can use?
So, the girls that work in BKK and Pattaya that service Farang men are in general quite ugly? Or only ugly to Thais as skin is dark? Or they are just generally more ugly. If a girl is attractive and in Bangkok or Pattaya shell be working in Thai sex industry?
What about attractive girls that decide to work in the Farang industry? There are some? Why would they chose this option?
[QUOTE=Opebo;1220836]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang, particularly when you take into account time spent. Even the lower-end of the Thai business, at about 500 baht per session, isn't bad money as the session is typically 20 minutes long. And most middle class Thai men pay big money (typically 1000-3000 baht) as they want very beautiful girls. White skin, womanly figure. In general the Thais would not touch the women who go into the farang oriented business as they are seen as unattractive (dark skin, Isaan features, angular boyish assless build) , and / or unappealing (crass, abrasive). Think of it this way - all the 'best' service providers go for Thai customers, as Thais in general despise farang, but those women who would not be easily salable in the Thai market due to unattractiveness can go and make roughly the same money in the farang market. Some drawbacks most of them mention, aside from their general dislike of farang, are that the farang 'take too long', are often into kinky sex, and mostly refuse to use condoms unlike Thai men, who rigorously practice 'safe sex' with prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me. We were in Thermae one night and were talking with a Japanese guy. After an hour or so he asked us what gals we liked. When we pointed out the white skinned ladies, he was a bit shocked and asked,"Why do white guys like women who look like monkeys?" One friend's girlfriend said it best."When foreigners come to Thailand their eyes don't work." Takes a few years for them to work that is for sure. It is tough for me to go into most GoGo bars and find a female who is attractive to me. Might think at first glance, wow, but that fades after seeing the square jawline, the blotchy dark skin, and most of all being around the "crass abrasive" demeanor.
Unfortunately you are also right about the sex and performance. I still have farang tastes in sex. Would love to find a place with super hot white skinned quality gals who perform like porn stars. Not really on the menu in Thailand.
Taksin finds out Cowboy will be flooded.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEusKs9sN0E&feature=youtu.be[/url]
Giotto
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1220959]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me.[/QUOTE]Each to his own, but I've been here since I was a kid and they still look fine to me. In fact I loved it when Yui Rojjana became a top international model much to the distaste of the Bangkok Hi-so with their obsession with light skin.
The fact is that there are plenty of absolutely lovely women from every region of Thailand, and of course plenty of total skanks too. It's about taste in women, not geography.
I think this needs to be tied down.
Most men with a brain will go for a girl who gives them great sex.
I mean, in Thailand what is the point of having a nice looking girl on your arm if she is lousy or just plain normal in bed.
No, when here you find absolute stunners in the bedroom and go with them.
This is what the Japs and the white skinned Bangkok girls cannot understand. For them sex is 3 minutes of grunting and thats that.
This is why farangs in general go for girls who the Hi-so community does not like. But also is too afraid to acknowledge its the lack of bedroom skills and enthusiasm on their part.
But yes, there are some who think its more about having eye candy on your arm than having a great time in bed. And for them the white skinned Bangkok girl is ideal. You pay the money, you prance around with the tart on your arm and are as miserable as sin in the bed.
Think I side with the farangs who like dark, brown, yellow, whatever skin colour, provided they are great in the bedroom!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1220959]Absolutely spot on and the longer I am here the less Isaan gals appeal to me. We were in Thermae one night and were talking with a Japanese guy. After an hour or so he asked us what gals we liked. When we pointed out the white skinned ladies, he was a bit shocked and asked,"Why do white guys like women who look like monkeys?" One friend's girlfriend said it best."When foreigners come to Thailand their eyes don't work." Takes a few years for them to work that is for sure. It is tough for me to go into most GoGo bars and find a female who is attractive to me. Might think at first glance, wow, but that fades after seeing the square jawline, the blotchy dark skin, and most of all being around the "crass abrasive" demeanor.
Unfortunately you are also right about the sex and performance. I still have farang tastes in sex. Would love to find a place with super hot white skinned quality gals who perform like porn stars. Not really on the menu in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Hi BJ here.
Thought I would share a story with you which took place back in September. Not one of my proudest moments but I think bearing your soul and being honest is a healthy thing to do even on a mongers forum. I was on my way to watch The Man utd Chelsea game on 18 September with a good friend of mine. We had a few beers before the game started and got talking about a bet on the result. I really should have known better, as I very rarely gamble, no one likes to lose money of course, but it doubly hurts when you are Scottish. I've been known to cry openly when I have lost money in the past. Any way I bet on Chelsea to win and for those of you who don't keep up with football, I lost the bet, the worst part was my mate I made the bet with, isn't even into football that much.
Now comes the bad part, the forfeit was the loser had to go to the Airport departures, the following Friday and approach a lady who had clearly just bade farewell to a farang boyfriend and offer to pay her for 'services rendered'. I really wish I had stuck to my doctrine of, no gambling, trust me that's the last time I ever bet on anything. I was as nervous as a priest at a boy scout's outing. I tried all manner of negotiating my way out of the forfeit, but my friend just kept smiling and shaking his head (bastard).
I had absolutely no idea what was the correct approach. The first attempt was to come straight out with it and offer money for sex, she verbally slapped me in Thai which was definitely not complimentary and stormed off. Decided to switch tact. Next one I tried was to simply talk to her and ask if I could escort her to the city for a drink, she gave me a puzzled look, swore at me (I think) then walked away with a contemptuous air about her. This went on for quite a while with me sweating and my mate pissing himself laughing, I thought he might let me off the hook when he saw how much I was suffering but no (don't worry I will get him back eventually regardless of how long it takes). After god knows how many attempts one lady actually agreed to join me for a drink, I couldn't believe it. We got a taxi from the Airport back to the Sukhumvit area and went to the beer garden in Soi 7, stayed for about an hour and a half, I was still unsure about broaching the subject of P4P but to my huge relief it was her who made the offer. The fee was agreed and off we went back to my place. She was quite pretty with what I consider to be a very nice body and average breasts. The sex was good, pretty much standard BG stuff and after all was said and done she took off. Might be a lesson there about forming a relationship with a BG!
Ciao,
BJ
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1220870]So, how would a farang go about finding lighter skinned more attractive Thai girls? He can't? These girls work in establishments that only Thai men can use?[/QUOTE]Go to a ritzy mall or walk down the street. I have been in Thailand for a quite a while. They all still pretty much look the same to me.
These comments that there are a network of underground brothels that cater to middle class Thai men with light skinned Thai girls that look better than girls you would find on Sukhumvit is total bullshit. Every cop in town would be lined up for a freebie. Are there high end places that cater to the rich? Yes. But still being Thai is not prerequisite to go to these places all it takes is cash. Also Thais do not despise falang. If they did, you would not see Leo DC, Charlize Theron, Natalie Portman, and all the usual suspects everywhere you look in Bangkok.
98% of hookers are looking for a knight in shining armor, a sponsor, a husband. There is no way a Thai girl working P4P is going to prefer working at a venue the comic book reading, wife beating, mama's boy Thai man that happens to be the manager of Tesco / Lotus goes to.
[QUOTE=Betong; 1220969]Each to his own, but I've been here since I was a kid and they still look fine to me. In fact I loved it when Yui Rojjana became a top international model much to the distaste of the Bangkok Hi-so with their obsession with light skin.
The fact is that there are plenty of absolutely lovely women from every region of Thailand, and of course plenty of total skanks too. It's about taste in women, not geography.[/QUOTE]Very attractive - almost a classic type beauty. My all time favorite Thai model is Xanny Disjad. Also Issan looking and not classic at all but to me nirvana.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1221062]I think this needs to be tied down.
But yes, there are some who think its more about having eye candy on your arm than having a great time in bed. And for them the white skinned Bangkok girl is ideal. You pay the money, you prance around with the tart on your arm and are as miserable as sin in the bed.[/QUOTE]Very sad, Mr. Pro. This is the (Global) society we live in. Everything is based on conspicuous consumption. Where people's worth is defined by how wealthy they are. Better still to wear it on your arm. Be it a Rolex, LV handbag, or light skinned model.
Disgusting. But the good news is that it provides opportunities for arbitrage to those of us who know the real value of things, I. E. It gives us more opportunities to score with the darker girl next door types that don't always have a pout on their face and are tigresses in the sack.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1220809]Thrill of the hunt is the best! Can anyone recommend a place similar to Maggies in BKK?[/QUOTE]I think the FL scene may be better in Patts. I had great times pulling girls from WS, Lucifer, Insomnia and Marine.
That said I'd at least give Thermae a try. I know everyone says that the Japanese have ruined it. But I just can't believe it. I had some great luck there in the past. Though it takes a little patience. And willingness to approach the girls and apply some charm. Strangely some mongers are too shy to do this.
GOOD LUCK!
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya;1221132]the good news is that it provides opportunities for arbitrage to those of us who know the real value of things, I. E. It gives us more opportunities to score with the darker girl next door types that don't always have a pout on their face and are tigresses in the sack.[/QUOTE]Hi Uncle,
I agree with you completely.
I do not see the point of having a 'supermodel' who may well be a 'super starfish' in bed!
OK, looks are probably what attracts us in the first place but some of my BEST 'in bed experiences worldwide have been with 'girl next door' types!
I would much rather have a girl. Who may not have the classic supermodel look but has a good personality as a playmate for a few hours than a beautiful starfish who does not want to join in with the fun.
My ideal playmate is someone who has 'A healthy body and a SICK mind! ' What a WONDERFUL combination that can be!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
sorry for the long post. i hope you will still find the facts you are looking for. english is not my mother tongue.
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so, here i was again. the traffic of sukhumvit road taking my breath, sweat running down my back. carefully placing my feet along the walkway with its many pitfalls, signs and piles standing in my way.
why didn't i take the cab? i am the longtime guy. i enjoy the hunt as much as the deed. and today i was going to a new place. a short time place. so it makes sense to me to take my time to get there.
i walked along soi 23 just meters away from soi cowboy and memories of my last night came to my mind. bad memories. memories of me taking the wrong girl from long gun minutes before the go go was going to close. she was the girl who did the pussy tricks. not the best looking for sure and actually it turns me off every time to see them playing the darts and cigarette. so why did i choose her? she smiled at me. simple as that. funny that the girls, however professional they are, hardly use the simplest but most approved and most powerful flirt technique: the smile.
i ask her to accompany my long night and bar fine her 600 baht. in my room the old routine. her body appealed me more in the lights of the bar. but i am not too picky. my turn on is the response i get from the girl. and i get this response. teasing and kissing her sensitive areas, a bit finger play and her pussy juices start flowing. she has a good smell. a smell that makes man hot. i cannot resist, put her on her back and start licking her softly. she likes this. yes, she really likes it. it takes time, but she gets hotter and hotter and finally comes hard heavily pressing my head between her legs. i can smell here salty cum. this is the signal for my little brother. condom on and easily sliding into her wet pussy. a tiny girl, but she has no problems to take my member.
then it turns bad. very bad. after a few seconds she asks me to come quickly. she wants to visit a friend. i drew the mega zonk. damned. i am not new to this business but pick the worst girl of soi cowboy? shame on me. so i finish quickly, pay her 1500 and send her away. she asks me if i am ok. no, i am not. i tell her, but it does not make sense to discuss. in this type of business you cannot enforce your deal with even the best lawyer. i missed my chance. now it is too late to pick another girl. time to sleep. i feel pissed.
for sure i will not go back to long gun for the next 12 months. a bar should guarantee a minimum quality of service. therefore i pay the bar fine.
but that was yesterday. a lesson learned.
now i was heading to snow white massage, down sukhumvit, passing by emporium mall. for a second i am tempted to shorten my trip and go to mango massage instead. i stop and ponder. it is hot. i feel hot. and thirsty. but i remember my session with ice. a hot session and very hardcore. but i am the flowers and bees type. the 2 hours with ice made my dick sore and swollen and the worst: useless for the next 4 days. a high price to pay. no, let's go to snow white and see what they have to offer.
so another walk. air is still hot and burning in my lungs. but here we are, soi 26. i turn right. the massage is just a few meters from sukhumvit on the left. i have to cross the street. many cars are heading towards sukhumvit road. i know a lot of people in bangkok. what if somebody sees me entering this place? hey, bangkok has more than 12 million people. why should this happen to me? ok. i cross the street and walk inside.
i am the long time guy. i really do not like the situation awaiting me right after the entrance. a few girls sitting there, one behind the desk. no chance to scan the girls, no chance to estimate their mood, no chance to find signs of sympathy.
i say "2 hours". not very poetic nor romantic. but it is the right keyword. she is shouting a name, not romantic neither, and a girl shows up. at first sight not a beauty. but these places have another fame. the fame that brought me here.
like in all the other places (tulip and mango) it goes upstairs. i am still hot and sweating and the stairs are small. i hate these stairs. i look upwards. her booty in tiny leggins just inches away from my face. i love these stairs.
we reach the room. the girl is very friendly. slim body, long hair. face a bit chinese. her name is cream, like ice cream.
she asks me if i wish anything to drink and leaves. i inspect the room. it is much bigger than the cabins in tulip. they have a bigger shower, a sofa and a mirror along the bed. i start thinking about what i might see in this mirror in a few minutes.
after she returns to our room with my drink, she starts to undress me slowly in a way a servant would do. finally she drops my pants and my prick is jumping into her face. she does not take a second to suck it all up. very soft, very wet, very deep. heaven is on earth.
i took a shower before i walked over and feel clean. i am wondering if she did the same if guys did not come fresh and clean?
a few minutes and we go to shower. she treats me like a king, cleans every inch very carefully. whenever there is a chance she sucks me and keeps my member well up and alive. i help her to wash herself and feel her stiff tits. god, why did you send us all the nasty diseases? i want to fuck her here in the shower, right now, bareback. but i cannot!
of we move to the bed. i kiss her. i suck her neck. i suck her tits and fingerplay with her pussy. she moans as if i am the first man doing this to her in her life. i know this is fake. but it is good fake. we foreplay half an hour. she turns me around in any direction, i twist her in any other way. great fun for a short time. i really enjoy. i lick her all around and so does she with focus on my balls and anywhere around my crotch. man, i really want to get into her. i have to stop, pick the condom and put it on. somehow the flow of energy interrupted. so i spend another 10 minutes with foreplay and kissing and then we slide into each other. we fuck every way. she can read my mind. no need to speak, no need to indicate. we melted into one. i recognize the beauty of her hair. perfect and shiny. i play with it, wish she had made pigtails of it. or any other hairstyle. i must come. we turn to doggy and i hump her heavily. then i take out my dick, rip of the condom and shoot my load over her back and booty. man, what a load. i thought i should have been empty after last days action, but i was wrong. all her back is whet, i shot her hair and my juice is dripping down her asshole and. i am knocked out. my body and brain have to restart. once back i excuse for shooting my semen into her hair. she just smiles.
we go for a shower and back to bed. the mirror. i was fucking a hot girl for half an hour centimeters away from this mirror and did not spend one look? next round i will. promised.
she asks me if i want a massage. not a new, but great idea. i turn over on my stomach and she gives a really good massage. a bit relaxing, a bit therapeutic. perfectly matching the situation.
we go for round two with the same enthusiasm as before. this time i remember the mirror. hot. i am getting used to this girl. what could i do with her next time? the massage places should offer a selection of fetish. i want her in stockings, i want her in school dress, i want her be a nurse, i want her. i want another girl. i want more. why doesn't the shop give suggestions? why not a "specials" menu?
time was over. we dress. i hide 1500 baht between her clothes. we kiss and say goodbye. she guides me down to the counter. mammasan is asking additional 400 baht as we are over time. really? yes, she is right. at least 20 minutes over time. did einstein find the formula describing the relation between time and sexual arousement?
cream stands in for me and helps me to avoid additional payment. nice girl. nice place. i am happy. in arnold's words: i will be back!
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1220870]Interesting. I thought it was more common for Thai men not to use condoms?
So, how would a farang go about finding lighter skinned more attractive Thai girls? He can't? These girls work in establishments that only Thai men can use?
So, the girls that work in BKK and Pattaya that service Farang men are in general quite ugly? Or only ugly to Thais as skin is dark? Or they are just generally more ugly. If a girl is attractive and in Bangkok or Pattaya shell be working in Thai sex industry?
What about attractive girls that decide to work in the Farang industry? There are some? Why would they chose this option?[/QUOTE]Again, a lot of generalizations. Most women in Thailand who work in the entertainment industry come to a particular go go, bar, massage, freelancer joint, or even the street come there because their friend works there or recommends it, plain and simple. They don't choose one because they have a preference for Japanese, farang, or Thai. That often comes later. A large number of the Thermae girls work in Japanese karaoke places or in Thaniya, and they hear about going to the Thermae after work if they can't find a guy from their friends. Having lived here long enough, I'd say that I now have Thai or Asian tastes, preferring light skinned women, tending towards northerners or Bangkok girls. But that doesn't mean I won't take home a dark skinned girl, if she is pleasant and has a nice smile. Then again, I once had a northern girlfriend who had dark skin, and I have presently been banging an Isaan lady with whiter skin than most northern beauties. It isn't just skin color either. I have found that the girls I see in Thermae, be it in the way they dress or carry themselves, look far more like non working girls than a lot of the girls I see in the Beergarden. I have taken several of the Thermae girls to dinner in all Thai places where I don't feel stigmatized or stared at, the girls could pass for office ladies. Whereas 9 out of 10 in the BG or Nana would not.
I found it quite amazing that on a recent streak of some 30-40 women I pulled in Sukhumvit, some 75% of them were not from Isaan, perhaps just shows what my eye was looking for? And by the same token, I have frequented many a 90% Thai massage parlor and found plenty of girls who come from Isaan or don't necessarily have skin any whiter than the next. So while the generalizations may apply, keep them to a minimum. If you want fairer skinned girls slightly more in line with Asian tastes, well by all means come checkout the Thermae.
Gents,
I finally come back to Bangkok after one year absent. I stay at the Maxim's Inn at soi7/1
This time for a change from the Majestic suite in the past trip. It is a pleasant surprised
I have a deluxe room with braekfast at 1190baht a night and the hotel is very quietly
Situated 100m. From the Sukhumvit road.
The NEP. Is musch less crowded than last year along with less quality girls in the bars.
Soi cowboy is still running strong with better Girls quantity and nice lookings all over.
I was at the Country road bar last night and It was rocking great live music.
I only visited my usually MP, so far and quite pleased with new line up Girls.
I will have more reports coming from the land of paradise
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[QUOTE=The Pro; 1221062]I think this needs to be tied down.
Most men with a brain will go for a girl who gives them great sex.
I mean, in Thailand what is the point of having a nice looking girl on your arm if she is lousy or just plain normal in bed.
No, when here you find absolute stunners in the bedroom and go with them.
This is what the Japs and the white skinned Bangkok girls cannot understand. For them sex is 3 minutes of grunting and thats that.
This is why farangs in general go for girls who the Hi-so community does not like. But also is too afraid to acknowledge its the lack of bedroom skills and enthusiasm on their part.
But yes, there are some who think its more about having eye candy on your arm than having a great time in bed. And for them the white skinned Bangkok girl is ideal. You pay the money, you prance around with the tart on your arm and are as miserable as sin in the bed.
Think I side with the farangs who like dark, brown, yellow, whatever skin colour, provided they are great in the bedroom![/QUOTE]As I said Pro, I would love to find a place that has white skinned girls who performed like porn stars, but I have yet to find it.
Truth be told I find that most gals here in LOS lack that dirty mind that we in the West crave. Even some of the busiest working girls who have been with thousands of guys still don't really get the psychological aspect of sex with farangs. They sure get it with the Japanese as the Asian aspect of it is more familiar to them.
About the only place I partake is at the oilies where I can get close to a good looking girl with stellar performance. I agree with you; Performance is key, but the longer I am here the more I want looks and performance. A hard row to hoe.
[QUOTE=The Pro;1221062]For them sex is 3 minutes[/QUOTE]I'm curious; what do they do for the other 90 seconds?
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1220966]Taksin finds out Cowboy will be flooded.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEusKs9sN0E&feature=youtu.be[/url]
Giotto[/QUOTE]Thankyou very much for this link. Really pissed myself laughing when I watched it. I'm sure I have seen the original film before, was it called the bunker? Or does my memory fail me.
BJ
[quote=ding ding; 1221204]sorry for the long post. i hope you will still find the facts you are looking for. english is not my mother tongue.
so, here i was again. the traffic of sukhumvit road taking my breath, sweat running down my back. carefully placing my feet along the walkway with its many pitfalls, signs and piles standing in my way.
why didn't i take the cab? i am the longtime guy. i enjoy the hunt as much as the deed. and today i was going to a new place. a short time place. so it makes sense to me to take my time to get there.
i walked along soi 23 just meters away from soi cowboy and memories of my last night came to my mind. bad memories. memories of me taking the wrong girl from long gun minutes before the go go was going to close. she was the girl who did the pussy tricks. not the best looking for sure and actually it turns me off every time to see them playing the darts and cigarette. so why did i choose her? she smiled at me. simple as that. funny that the girls, however professional they are, hardly use the simplest but most approved and most powerful flirt technique: the smile.
i ask her to accompany my long night and bar fine her 600 baht. in my room the old routine. her body appealed me more in the lights of the bar. but i am not too picky. my turn on is the response i get from the girl. and i get this response. teasing and kissing her sensitive areas, a bit finger play and her pussy juices start flowing. she has a good smell. a smell that makes man hot. i cannot resist, put her on her back and start licking her softly. she likes this. yes, she really likes it. it takes time, but she gets hotter and hotter and finally comes hard heavily pressing my head between her legs. i can smell here salty cum. this is the signal for my little brother. condom on and easily sliding into her wet pussy. a tiny girl, but she has no problems to take my member.
then it turns bad. very bad. after a few seconds she asks me to come quickly. she wants to visit a friend. i drew the mega zonk. damned. i am not new to this business but pick the worst girl of soi cowboy? shame on me. so i finish quickly, pay her 1500 and send her away. she asks me if i am ok. no, i am not. i tell her, but it does not make sense to discuss. in this type of business you cannot enforce your deal with even the best lawyer. i missed my chance. now it is too late to pick another girl. time to sleep. i feel pissed.
for sure i will not go back to long gun for the next 12 months. a bar should guarantee a minimum quality of service. therefore i pay the bar fine.
but that was yesterday. a lesson learned.
now i was heading to snow white massage, down sukhumvit, passing by emporium mall. for a second i am tempted to shorten my trip and go to mango massage instead. i stop and ponder. it is hot. i feel hot. and thirsty. but i remember my session with ice. a hot session and very hardcore. but i am the flowers and bees type. the 2 hours with ice made my dick sore and swollen and the worst: useless for the next 4 days. a high price to pay. no, let's go to snow white and see what they have to offer.
so another walk. air is still hot and burning in my lungs. but here we are, soi 26. i turn right. the massage is just a few meters from sukhumvit on the left. i have to cross the street. many cars are heading towards sukhumvit road. i know a lot of people in bangkok. what if somebody sees me entering this place? hey, bangkok has more than 12 million people. why should this happen to me? ok. i cross the street and walk inside.
i am the long time guy. i really do not like the situation awaiting me right after the entrance. a few girls sitting there, one behind the desk. no chance to scan the girls, no chance to estimate their mood, no chance to find signs of sympathy.
i say "2 hours". not very poetic nor romantic. but it is the right keyword. she is shouting a name, not romantic neither, and a girl shows up. at first sight not a beauty. but these places have another fame. the fame that brought me here.
like in all the other places (tulip and mango) it goes upstairs. i am still hot and sweating and the stairs are small. i hate these stairs. i look upwards. her booty in tiny leggins just inches away from my face. i love these stairs.
we reach the room. the girl is very friendly. slim body, long hair. face a bit chinese. her name is cream, like ice cream.
she asks me if i wish anything to drink and leaves. i inspect the room. it is much bigger than the cabins in tulip. they have a bigger shower, a sofa and a mirror along the bed. i start thinking about what i might see in this mirror in a few minutes.
after she returns to our room with my drink, she starts to undress me slowly in a way a servant would do. finally she drops my pants and my prick is jumping into her face. she does not take a second to suck it all up. very soft, very wet, very deep. heaven is on earth.
i took a shower before i walked over and feel clean. i am wondering if she did the same if guys did not come fresh and clean?
a few minutes and we go to shower. she treats me like a king, cleans every inch very carefully. whenever there is a chance she sucks me and keeps my member well up and alive. i help her to wash herself and feel her stiff tits. god, why did you send us all the nasty diseases? i want to fuck her here in the shower, right now, bareback. but i cannot!
of we move to the bed. i kiss her. i suck her neck. i suck her tits and fingerplay with her pussy. she moans as if i am the first man doing this to her in her life. i know this is fake. but it is good fake. we foreplay half an hour. she turns me around in any direction, i twist her in any other way. great fun for a short time. i really enjoy. i lick her all around and so does she with focus on my balls and anywhere around my crotch. man, i really want to get into her. i have to stop, pick the condom and put it on. somehow the flow of energy interrupted. so i spend another 10 minutes with foreplay and kissing and then we slide into each other. we fuck every way. she can read my mind. no need to speak, no need to indicate. we melted into one. i recognize the beauty of her hair. perfect and shiny. i play with it, wish she had made pigtails of it. or any other hairstyle. i must come. we turn to doggy and i hump her heavily. then i take out my dick, rip of the condom and shoot my load over her back and booty. man, what a load. i thought i should have been empty after last days action, but i was wrong. all her back is whet, i shot her hair and my juice is dripping down her asshole and. i am knocked out. my body and brain have to restart. once back i excuse for shooting my semen into her hair. she just smiles.
we go for a shower and back to bed. the mirror. i was fucking a hot girl for half an hour centimeters away from this mirror and did not spend one look? next round i will. promised.
she asks me if i want a massage. not a new, but great idea. i turn over on my stomach and she gives a really good massage. a bit relaxing, a bit therapeutic. perfectly matching the situation.
we go for round two with the same enthusiasm as before. this time i remember the mirror. hot. i am getting used to this girl. what could i do with her next time? the massage places should offer a selection of fetish. i want her in stockings, i want her in school dress, i want her be a nurse, i want her. i want another girl. i want more. why doesn't the shop give suggestions? why not a "specials" menu?
time was over. we dress. i hide 1500 baht between her clothes. we kiss and say goodbye. she guides me down to the counter. mammasan is asking additional 400 baht as we are over time. really? yes, she is right. at least 20 minutes over time. did einstein find the formula describing the relation between time and sexual arousement?
cream stands in for me and helps me to avoid additional payment. nice girl. nice place. i am happy. in arnold's words: i will be back![/quote]thank you for the report, made very interesting reading. please keep them coming i do like to be kept up to date with other peoples antics.
bj
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1221278]As I said Pro, I would love to find a place that has white skinned girls who performed like porn stars, but I have yet to find it.
Truth be told I find that most gals here in LOS lack that dirty mind that we in the West crave. Even some of the busiest working girls who have been with thousands of guys still don't really get the psychological aspect of sex with farangs. They sure get it with the Japanese as the Asian aspect of it is more familiar to them.
About the only place I partake is at the oilies where I can get close to a good looking girl with stellar performance. I agree with you; Performance is key, but the longer I am here the more I want looks and performance. A hard row to hoe.[/QUOTE]In my personal opinion I believe a majority, but certainly not all, of western men have a tendancy to be attracted to something which is different to what they are used to. For example the more dark skinned ladies are less common in Europe. My own preference is for a darker skin.
BJ
[quote=goatscrot; 1221278]as i said pro, i would love to find a place that has white skinned girls who performed like porn stars, but i have yet to find it.
truth be told i find that most gals here in los lack that dirty mind that we in the west crave. even some of the busiest working girls who have been with thousands of guys still don't really get the psychological aspect of sex with farangs. they sure get it with the japanese as the asian aspect of it is more familiar to them.
about the only place i partake is at the oilies where i can get close to a good looking girl with stellar performance. i agree with you; performance is key, but the longer i am here the more i want looks and performance. a hard row to hoe.[/quote]i have found a few with dirty minds, but that is in over 20 years, so yes, you are correct, it is limited in terms of numbers of girls with dirty minds.
it is why there is an ever increasing amount of ladyboys around, and customers going with ladyboys, hopefully we are allowed to mention the trend, the trend is in fact assisted by the lack of females with dirty minds. if you combine the very sexual minds of a man, with the looks of a girl. you end with having something that has similar sexual perversions as the customer. hence the trend for many many more customers using the services of the lb community.
just stand outside nana for 30 minutes and watch the stream of customers with lb's in tow.
but, the upside of that is of course more real girls for the rest of us to enjoy.
in my years in thailand i have met just 6 girls / women with extremely (being extreme not just plan dirty) dirty minds. and all of them married foreigners (eg they got snapped up pretty quick). i still do some of them, but the others are now living overseas.
as for white skinned girls i find most farang do not "get into them" its more that society and peer pressure makes them think that these white skinned girls are better. the whole set up of bangkok is to look down on dark skin and isaan. and its not strange to find farangs who spend a long time in bangkok eventually end up getting brainwashed by the system and people around them.
[QUOTE=The Pro;1221062]Think I side with the farangs who like dark, brown, yellow, whatever skin colour, provided they are great in the bedroom![/QUOTE]
How about a green or blue skinned Orion slave girl?
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1221367]How about a green or blue skinned Orion slave girl?
Slim[/QUOTE]I recently managed to pull a Japanese karaoke girl who'd come to Sukhumvit after work for the first time. Theoretically, I was her first farang. When I pulled my member out she started laughing, and told me,"na rak jang loei, see khao maak maak" (it's so white and so cute!). I asked her if it was really that different from a Japanese cock and she looked at me and made a face and said "mai suay." The girls are just as color coordinated as we are!
[QUOTE=Opebo;1220836]Actually SC500, your assumption is wrong - the Thais generally pay about the same amount as farang,[/QUOTE]This cannot be correct, the mean / median income of Thais is much lower. The wage of a teacher or shop manager is not much. It may be a different story in the city. But don't claim Silicon Valley rents are typical of broader American rents. You look at the conditions and fines of working girls. Money is tight, and work hours hard and long. Those in the 'Bar' business take 50-60%+ of turnover. (paying off BIB is an overhead). So conclude the real working class have outlets and options not discussed on this board, like youth hanging out detached houses, or waved up steps into private houses. In 2000 bt establishments (big city) the girl typically clears 700-800bt. I'm sure blue collar Thais know a way to cut out the middlemen, and pay accordingly. A direct phone call and a ST hotel.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1221268]So while the generalizations may apply, keep them to a minimum.[/QUOTE]Especially as Isaan itself is a big region and filled with variety. Taller, lighter "white Lao" girls from up along the river, shorter and darker ones from further inland, those nice voluptuous ethnic Cambodians from Surin and Buriram, smaller ethnic groups like the Suai (just to keep this on topic, anyone remember those two really nice Suai sisters who used to work at Safari?) , etc. The single most beautiful Thai woman I ever met was from Maha Sarakham and believe me, she didn't look anything like the Isaan cliche.
The way I see it. Thailand offers great cheap sexual pervesion and kinky girls etc. But perhaps lacks on looks depertments.
Europe especially Germany / Spain big establishments you can find hot girls with decent service but the way I see it.
Europe for hot girls.
Thailand for great sex etc.
Off course thats a generilisation also
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1221399]This cannot be correct, the mean / median income of Thais is much lower.[/QUOTE]
Afraid it is the way I described, Keeniu. Thais have money now, the bottom has fallen out of farang-lands, and working girls all over Thailand are positively raking it in on the Thai side of the biz. (The freelancers I deal with upcountry typically pull in around 20, 000 / month just working a few hours a day).
Working class Thais normally pay 500-800 baht for a 20 minute boom-boom, with some 300 baht options (the 'old lady houses'. Very old and unattractive ladies. 40 plus) still existing here and there. In 2000 baht places (ab-aum-nuats and kareokes) the girl clears typically half, and while most will refuse to visit you privately (they're already very busy and have large incomes) , a few will for about 1500 upcountry, more in Bangkok. Freelancer prices for Thais are typically 500 for the really unattractive ones. 1000 for reasonable lookers, and 1500-2000 for very pretty 'university'/Hi-so style girls. My middle class friends cannot even conceive of spending less than 1, 000 except if they go to a border town for a Lao girl, and even there they only go to the 800 baht house or the 900 baht delivery service.
Of course here I have only described the lower and middle end of the market. The wealthy Thais pay much much more than farang, but that's a fairly small market. The prices really are overall About the same, Keeniu, and perhaps the explanation is this. Thais are far pickier in terms of looks than farang, and are happy to monger only maybe once every couple of months. By contrast the farang visitors are here for two weeks of desperate two-or-three-per day boomsing, usually on a budget, before being condemned to going back to their hell-hole countries. So its a quantity-vs-quality situation.
Lastly I'd like to remind those who still feel inappropriately confident that they are somehow richer than Thais. You really aren't generally that much richer than the Thai middle class in their own country. Many of them make around $1000-2000 / month, which, while it doens't sound like that much, remember that they don't have to spend huge sums on plane tickets and hotels to go mongering. They just hop in the Altis or Civic and go round the way. Low overhead.
[b]Good lord, I've tried editing this post about ten times now - look at it! What a mess! Why can't this forum allow you to put in paragraphs and so forth? It only allows a big mass of text.[/b]
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1221433]The way I see it. Thailand offers great cheap sexual pervesion and kinky girls etc. But perhaps lacks on looks depertments.[/QUOTE]Have you actually ever been in Thailand?
It is my experience that Thai-ladies are quite conservative and are, generally, not at all "kinky" or into "perversions". They are great in the GFE department though and as for looks, that is of course a matter of taste.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1221481]My middle class friends cannot even conceive of spending less than 1, 000 except if they go to a border town for a Lao girl, and even there they only go to the 800 baht house or the 900 baht delivery service[/b][/QUOTE]Where exactly are your middle class friends in BANGKOK (this is the Bangkok forum) going? If you can not give some specific locations, then I say horseshit on everything you are saying.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1221481]Of course here I have only described the lower and middle end of the market. The wealthy Thais pay much much more than farang, but that's a fairly small market.[/QUOTE]Hi Opebo, So where is this high end market you mentioned above? Is it a club scene? Is it private I. E. Westerners are not admitted or they must be brought in by Thai friends or business associates? Or are you talking about some of the high end BKK soapies I already know about and frequent, where rates can vary from a low of 2700bt up to and over 7000bt per session? Just curious since I worship at the altar of Asian beauty. One more thing; it seems to me that it is too much of a generalization and perhaps a self-justification, to say as some board members have said, that stunners give only starfish service and all girl next door types give great satisfying sex. I have had great sex with stunners and their beauty only adds to the pleasure received. I have also had average, nothing to write home about sex with girl next door types (fortunately not too many times). Having some game, doing the interview and trusting your judgment really cuts down on those let downs with whatever type girl you choose or go for. That is what gets me through. A beautiful girl or just a sexy looking girl, she has to be sending the right signals or chances are I will not find the love I am looking for. And one more broad category so far left out of the discussion, is the ugly girl, the put a bag over her head type girl. And believe me, there are a lot of these types of girls wandering around Nana and Cowboy, upper and lower Sukhumvit, and Beach Road, Pattaya. They may or may not be great girls, but too much makeup, fat, too old, saggy tits, sometimes aggressive, smelly, or just plain not attractive; ouch, I wouldn't want to shag them with your dick. But hey, that's just me, LOL. If truth be told, I have fucked up a few times in my life and when I woke up in the morning, saw what I did; it was a horror! Thank God, it has been a long time since I have done that.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1221399]This cannot be correct, the mean / median income of Thais is much lower. The wage of a teacher or shop manager is not much. It may be a different story in the city. But don't claim Silicon Valley rents are typical of broader American rents. You look at the conditions and fines of working girls. Money is tight, and work hours hard and long. Those in the 'Bar' business take 50-60%+ of turnover. (paying off BIB is an overhead). So conclude the real working class have outlets and options not discussed on this board, like youth hanging out detached houses, or waved up steps into private houses. In 2000 bt establishments (big city) the girl typically clears 700-800bt. I'm sure blue collar Thais know a way to cut out the middlemen, and pay accordingly. A direct phone call and a ST hotel.[/QUOTE]Don't under estimate the income of the middle class Thai nowadays when they have their own business. Sell 100 coffees a day at 50 Bt average, Those make at least 2500 BT net a day. Small independant convenient store owner in Lad Phrao makes over 3000 Bt net a day. Internetshop owner makes more than 100K Bt a month NET! Not to mention all those other businesses where I have no relation with. So don't think about the teacher's 35K or graduated office girls at 15-18K, where a lot also make additional money up to 10K a month, and that is definitely not in the P4P business. So it is not all too bad in BKK. For those Isan girls in BKK it might all be different. Just the choice of a minimum wage salary, which will never be enough to pay for daddy's whisky or brothers motobike, so the step into P4P business is not so difficult for a lot of them, but not all!
Ditto. And I'd like to know of the high end markets / options too.
Regarding westerners not admitted, I was recently on Soi Thaniya in Silom and out of curiousity decided to check out one of the places. As I walked towards the ladies, door, and the gracious fellow manning the door, the fellow sitting there put up his hand like a cop stopping traffic and declares "not for you!". I reply what do you mean? He says "japanese only". I found it amusing.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1221506]Hi Opebo, So where is this high end market you mentioned above? Is it a club scene? Is it private I. E. Westerners are not admitted or they must be brought in by Thai friends or business associates? Or are you talking about some of the high end BKK soapies I already know about and frequent, where rates can vary from a low of 2700bt up to and over 7000bt per session? Just curious since I worship at the altar of Asian beauty. One more thing; it seems to me that it is too much of a generalization and perhaps a self-justification, to say as some board members have said, that stunners give only starfish service and all girl next door types give great satisfying sex. I have had great sex with stunners and their beauty only adds to the pleasure received. I have also had average, nothing to write home about sex with girl next door types (fortunately not too many times). Having some game, doing the interview and trusting your judgment really cuts down on those let downs with whatever type girl you choose or go for. That is what gets me through. A beautiful girl or just a sexy looking girl, she has to be sending the right signals or chances are I will not find the love I am looking for. And one more broad category so far left out of the discussion, is the ugly girl, the put a bag over her head type girl. And believe me, there are a lot of these types of girls wandering around Nana and Cowboy, upper and lower Sukhumvit, and Beach Road, Pattaya. They may or may not be great girls, but too much makeup, fat, too old, saggy tits, sometimes aggressive, smelly, or just plain not attractive; ouch, I wouldn't want to shag them with your dick. But hey, that's just me, LOL. If truth be told, I have fucked up a few times in my life and when I woke up in the morning, saw what I did; it was a horror! Thank God, it has been a long time since I have done that.[/QUOTE]
Hi BJ here.
Well what goes around comes around, the forfeit I was forced to do back in September after losing a bet on a Football game came back to haunt my friend at last, it was the fact I wrote it the other night made me think, 'it's payback time'. Him not being a Football buff, and a bit pissed after a few beers, I managed to talk my friend into taking a bet on the Chelsea Wolves game last night. After he lost the bet I was over the moon, especially as there were six of us there to watch him suffer.
To give you a bit of background and make you appreciate the forfeit as much as I did, bluntly my friend is a bit of a fussy snob. He's really particular about the sort of things which don't matter to the rest of us. He does crazy shit like only goes to expensive restaurants and cleans the cutlery with his own handkerchief, insists on only drinking particular types of wines and spirits etc.
He is even fussier when it comes to his choice of women. He only goes for tall, fair skinned women with the classic shape, voluptuous breasts and long hair. He particularly doesn't like the country types who are generally short, dark skinned with small breasts and flat noses oh and he really does not like short hair. I think you might be getting an idea what his forfeit was.
When the game ended, we all frog marched him straight to Nana plaza. We went into a few bars carefully selecting the 'perfect' woman, needless to say we chose the lady for him. After some rigorous field work we found the perfect candidate. She was short, very dark skinned, had shoulder length hair, virtually no discernable shape, non-existent breasts and a nose you could dig a ditch with. She couldn't have fitted the bill better. To be honest, although I'm really not that fussy, I thought she was smokin nice, the sort of woman I would gladly pick for myself. This was probably one of the last ladies he would have picked out of all the choices in the whole plaza, if left to his own devices.
The final part of the deal was that he had to take the lady to the ST hotel down a back alley on soi 4, the shitty one that has all the ladieboys going in it short time all day. There was no way we were going to take his word for it and let him disappear in a taxi, so we walked with him, oh and the final insult was he had to pay her a total of 10, 000 BT not including the bar fine. He has the cash that is not the issue. So the five of us bid him 'have a good time sexy man' as he walked wistfully down the corridor. Half an hour later he returned, looking like a condemned man (excellent) forlornly holding up a used condom full of his reluctant cum, to whoops and cheers from the rest of us gathered outside the hotel. Dish, revenge, cold, served and all that. The moral? Don't gamble!
Ciao (with wide grin) BJ
[QUOTE=Harold444;1221594]Farangs don't want to admit but they do tend to go for monkie look girls. I would have never believed it but it is true. The main reason is I think the ugly cost less![/QUOTE]Funny, because whenever I see asian or african men with "White" girlfriends I say to myself "how could they choose such an ugly girl!" The only features they seem to be interested is being blonde and somehow being "big". So maybe thats part of God's plan to make the ugly ones available for interracial fantasies. I for myself find most of the Young Isaan girls working in the service industry really attractive and never thought of picking an ugly one for one reason or another.
Don't see much about Eden here. Apologies if there is a specific thread, but I'll post here anyway.
For the sake of nostalgia I decided to visit Eden as I only had a daytime window and wanted something a bit less ordinary. I hadn't been for a few years, as the business trips have dried up a bit to this area. Visited about 4. 30 and the place was very quiet, only one other guy at the bar who was nursing a Smirnoff Ice and didn't seem interested in the girls. Maybe he had already been upstairs. A few girls were outside and some more down the back with only a few in the bar area. Anyway ordered a beer and the manager reintroduced me to the procedure and called the girls in.
Not a great line-up in terms of numbers at that time but OK for me as I spotted something I liked on the left of the line. Mona then suggested a friend from the right side (name of Froom or Sroom I think). Off upstairs for 90 minutes. The place now has rooms upstairs (a couple of years I'm told) so no need to walk the 20 yards or so to the short time hotel they used to use down the street.
The room was OK if a bit basic with mirrors all over including on the ceiling, a nice touch as the view is great as the girls do their stuff.
Same procedure as always: assisted shower including thorough nether regions cleaning especially the ass in preparation for the first session. BJ started in the shower, then we got dried up and onto the bed. A pillow is placed under my lower back and my legs are prised open gently, and one girl proceeds to blow me moving down to the balls and perineum before spending a long time exploring my anal area with her tongue. More rimming than salad tossing but it really floats my boat (mixed metaphors but you know what I mean). Meanwhile the other girl moves over to blow me. All reflected in the mirror above. Happy days. As an appetiser this certainly does the trick, and I didn't bother holding back for long as I knew the main course would be even better and finished CIM for round one.
A short 4 handed massage, nice and relaxing but not professional, was followed by the 2 girl show with dildos and strap-on and then I joined in.
I'd nearly forgotten what fun a guy can have with 2 uninhibited friends. No position was out of the question (left of line girl offering both holes and right of the line girl offering only one). I had to pace myself as I'm not as young as I'd wish.
Glad I went, must have had a grin for the next 2 days.
It's a bit more pricy than other options in the city (4020 Baht for my session including the beer, plus I tipped the girls on top of that. It was worth it). Easy to get to at Nana BTS, you can see the sign from the platform. Use Exit 3.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1220138]Sounds like you got a pretty ideal spot, if you are in the place that used to be Magic Table. French guy ran it, and it was pretty good place to hang out, have some fun, whatever.[/QUOTE]Magic Table is still open, I was in last week. But no impressive girls. Had just one drink and left. Dr. BJ is next to it.
[b]Summary points[/b] (always IMHO) first for the ones that hate the long stories:
1. The new BJ Bar 'Dr. BJ's' has many good chances to become a hot-spot.
2. The quality at Cowboy has, generally speaking, dropped the last 6 months and I have the feeling that the business are not so good as they used to be.
3. Nana has definitely better quality but at 11pm on a Saturday night most of the bars were so packed that it was almost impossible to enjoy them (and the girls)
4. Lesson learned for one more time (and read the report for this, at least the last part) : If a go-go girl that you like her looks is flirting with you then take the chance and bar fine her. It will probably end up very well!
[b]MAIN (AND LONG) REPORT[/b]
[u]The tour[/u]
I had many months to go in Cowboy or Nana and last Saturday I decided to make a long night tour. Was not out on purpose to get a girl but I've told to my self that if something will 'giggle me' l'll just follow my instinct. I wanted more to have some drinks, enjoy if possible some shows and relax.
The night started actually late afternoon, with a haircut manicure and pedicure and a visit to a new BJ Bar (Dr. BJ's) at Soi 7/1. To learn about the system and price levels visit the web site.
[url]http://bjbarbangkok.com/[/url]
My experience there was very positive for the following reasons: The place is very clean (it is new yes) it has cubicles that give more privacy than the the other options in the market, there is a sink in each room where your 'nurse or consultant' will thoroughly clean your cock before and after.
I choose a girl that I liked very much (Lyn) and she gave me a very good BJ just the way I wanted. Slow, no teeth (teeth is a killer for me), with light massage in my testicles and very patient. It took me maybe 15 minutes to come and she went all the way with a steady rhythm. Only negative point: No CIM; the moment she understood I was coming she took my cock outside of her mouth and I finished on her breast. I didn't complain but next time I'll ask if CIM is included.
After a quick dinner I started my go-go tour at Cowboy at about 9:30. First stop was Rawhide and the place was half full. About 10 girls in the stage. 1 of them very pretty (I know this face, she is the one that she is dancing very well in the 'rock music' show) 3 good and the rest indifferent. The pretty girl gives me the eye and I decide to invite her for a drink. She comes to me and while seeing her closer I like more her face and body I get the feeling that she is probably a star fish and after I finish my drink I say good bye and leave for one of my old favourites: Sheba's.
What a disappointment. OK, I've had more than 6 months to visit but I am getting the feeling that quality has dropped many levels. Beauty was never I think the strong point of Sheba's but really it was difficult at that night to find even one girl that attracted me. Girls are dancing, there is one that I can call acceptable (although very thin for my taste) , she is resembling the lead actress of Avatar (the cartoon actress I mean) she gives me the eye, but I am sorry I feel nothing. Last drop of my beer in Sheba's and off for a cigarette outside and then just opposite to Cowboy 2.
Slightly better but again no real attraction. I just got into the time were the 'body oil' show is on and I have to say the girl is doing a good job that is followed by the candles show which is also good. Until now I am not impressed at all with the situation at Cowboy so decision is: Nana.
I decided to walk the short distance (was not very hot that night) and on the way, very close to Soi 15 I see (from behind) one of the most beautiful bodies I've ever seen, in shorts and a tight sleeveless t-shirt to move an ass that I can describe as 'a sun-set in an exotic beach'. A bit faster steps and..... I figure out that if we end up in the bed together we will probably start measuring the length of our cocks. Fuck, this ass was great! I mean it was so great that for a glimpse of a second I gave a second thought but then I laughed at myself and continued to Nana.
First stop: The Las Vegas at the third floor. I've heard that this is a new bar and decided to pay a visit. Indeed very new place, very clean, (the best toilets I think in all RLDs of Bangkok) and cheerful girls (why it is almost empty at past 11pm?). OK, it seems the right place for a drink. I sat down, I order my beer and take a look. Three groups of girls in different outfits. A group with black sexy under-wares (push-up demi bra and booty shorts) , another one in shiny strass-thu like briefs and a third one on topless bikinis. Can not spot if there are three different levels / types but I see that the first two groups are more cheerful and when they are not dancing are sitting altogether in a table and share bottles of red wine. The third group is less active, it seems that it fills the gaps in the stage when the first two groups are not dancing and frankly speaking are the less attractive. I invite one of the 'strass girls' for a drink. She is very cheerful, good English and I start feeling something. While we are together the 'black group' starts to dance and she starts pointing some girls and saying to me 'sexy. '. Yes there are sexy but I like you, you know. She is asking me if I want to bar fine a girl, I looked at her curiously and before I reply she says to me that she is not doing bar fine tonight. I ask nothing else. I finish my drink and I leave for Rainbow 4.
I just took a glimpse from the door, I see maybe 4,352 men inside and I leave. Next stop Spanky's. It is packed but the moment I enter a spinner grabs me and she puts me in a table next to another person. In the 3 minutes that it took to bring me my drink there were at least 10 men that entered the place and they packed them all like 'sardines in a can' at any place an ass could fit. I mean I understand they wan customers but give me a break please! How I supposed to be comfortable and in the mood to buy a drink to a girl. Anyway I stay a bit more there, I like the lesbian show but when 2 shows are finishing I am out. I start bar-flying from bar to bar without sitting in any of them and I realise that most bars are really packed. I feel uncomfortable and I decide to go back to Cowboy.
[u]The bar-fine[/u]
I still have some energy and I go to shark. At the entrance a lady with a very interesting sexy face in a white tight dress grabs me and accompanies me inside. I give my order I take a second look to my companion and while the face is very interesting body wise is not my type so at her call for a drink I politely decline saying with a smile 'give me some minutes to take a breath, maybe later'. She understands and she leaves me. I am looking at the stage and there is one chick there that has a very nice body and a fine (but nothing special) face. I consider the options while half of the girls abandon the stage and some others are taking their position. Among the new girls there is a late twenties lady with a very nice body (beside the silicon tits) and a very charming face. Charming this is the right way to describe her face; not beautiful but extremely charming. She starts flirting and when I say flirting I mean a kind of innocent flirting, not staring, but rather giving glimpses of a look revealing a perfect smile. She gets my attention I wink my eye and I could swear that when I winked she was blushing! I mean ok she was probably faking it (have seen so many actress in this job that this could be possible also) or it might have been the 6th drink I had but at that moment the situation became serious. Another girl is approaching me with a smile, I looked at her and then at the lady in the stage and I see that she is telling me 'please wait for me'. OK she is playing me beautifully but I like it! Experience has taught me that if a girl that you like her look is flirting with you in a go-go then it worth the chance. And this is what I've done; I took the chance.
Some minutes after Nen (or Neng? Or En?) is off stage and beside me. She is having one of the most gracious and at the same time sexy smiles I've seen in a go-go girl and the moment she is beside me she gives me a hug and whispers in my ear 'OMG thank you for waiting for me; I liked you so much from the moment you enter the bar and I wanted to sit with you'. OK, she has probably taken acting classes but still she is doing this in such a perfect way that I enjoy. I ask her what she wants to drink, she asks for a beer and the next second I get from her the first kiss in the neck. After less than a minute her lips were in my face and before the beer arrive I got the first DFK from her. To make a long story short at one point I asked her the price; her face is now shining and she tells me 'oohhhh how nice that you ask; I am very shy to ask' (OK cut the crap now I wanted to say but I behaved). Then the killer reply comes 'up to you' but in this reply I always say 'no, it is up to you'. She understands and she quotes 3K for 'spending all night with you'. I explain that I do not have all night and then (with a bit disappointed face) she says 'OK 2K for ST'. I say yes (not in the mood to nego) and at my yes she almost jumps gives me a tight hug and many many kisses. I ask for the bill and she tells me 'let's finish our drink, there is no rush. Relax my baby'. Such a teaser! We finish drinks she goes to chance and about 20 minutes after the price quote we go for the ST hotel in Asoke.
It was like the end of a passionate date. The moment we enter the room and before the lady from the hotel bring to us the toothpaste and toothbrush we are in each other arms and we DFKying passionately. The time from entering the room to going to the bed was short. We were both not in the mood for a long shower and when we finished cleaning ourselves (and continuously kissing) we jump in the bed continuing the almost uninterrupted kissing. It was real GFE. I was kissing and licking her body for almost half an hour and after a 10 good minutes of licking her pussy she 'begged' me to 'come inside her'. Things happened in a way that there was no BJ from her side. I mean everything came so naturally that I didn't even ask for the BJ and I was not feeling that I wanted one. At one point I was so hard and I just wanted to enter her pussy. It is probably one of the few times that momentarily BB came in mind but immediately 'Mr. Logic' prevailed.
Sex was fantastic. Slow, with bodies moving at their own pace without talking and asking, facial expressions and moaning at the max. She declared (who know if it was true) that she came at one point and after that, I took my favourite scissor position and I came in the next 3 minutes. I wanted to stay inside her for some minutes but the obsession I had with cleaning made me to jump off the bed and go straight into the bathroom for a brief shower just seconds after my orgasm finished.
I was drained, I was happy, relaxed and sleepy. I smoked a cigarette while she was talking me about herself and asking me if one night we can go together for clubbing or drinks. I was listening to her. I said 'maybe but I can not promise babe'; she smiled and told me 'at least come another time to see me in the Shark'. I think I could have asked for a second round but it was not what I really wanted. I was a happy man, (and I've also started to think that I am so tired that my little friend down there could abandon me in a second round).
We split out of the hotel, her taking a taxi and me walking in the parking to take my car back home (at this point I couldn't feel any effect from the alcohol but later when I arrived safe home I thought that is was quite stupid that I didn't took a taxi).
Thank you, Lifeingr, for your feed back regarding your visit to the salon. To address the "no CIM" some of our ladies do provide this service. If I could ask you, or any other customers, to make this request when you enter our staff will be more than happy to reccomend a lady who can comply with your needs.
Regards BJ
Hi BJ here.
I must say I love the fact that the main 3pm English premier league games are screened live over here. I went to Bullies bar just along from soi 4 on Saturday night to watch the Chelsea game.
First time I have been there and thought it was a very nice bar. It was only after my first beer that I realized they do draught there so I ordered a Hoegarden, which is a refreshing pint with a hint of citrus to it. Not a beer that I would drink a lot of but think the occasional pint is nice. The only drawback is they have the sound down and music playing. At half time I decided to take a walk up to Hanrahans as they always have the sound up.
When I walked in the waitress was very accommodating and asked me which game I wanted to watch, after telling her it was the Chelsea game, she showed me to the bar. On the way there I asked if the sound would be up? She assured me that it was but when the second half started I found to my dismay that in fact, it was the Man utd game which had the sound on! This I found annoying, if she had said 'sorry the Chelsea game won't have the sound turned up' I wouldn't have minded, I just found it frustrating that she told me different. It's that cultural difference thing again.
Anyway I thoroughly enjoyed the game and Chelsea won 3-0. The funny thing was that when Man utd scored and half the bar cheered, to my surprise most of the guys celebrating were German? Later on I could hear Newcastle being awarded a penalty and I thought 'Hello, '. Now don't get me wrong I'm not the type of supporter who harbours a hatred for other teams. But I could not resist the chance to wind these guys up, so I waited to hear the penalty being taken, when Newcastle scored I walked across to the screen and clapped as loudly as I could then gave it the thumbs up. This had the desired effect, as I walked back to my seat one of the 'Man utd supporters' half heartedly said something about Chelsea. Without being too aggressive (honestly) I turned to him and said 'so which part of Manchester in Dortmund do you come from'? I was just in the mood to annoy them, having had a few beers. To my surprise two minutes after I sat down, I turned round and the guy had disappeared out the door. Not what I had intended but I think it may have been the Scottish accent that had done it.
I left the bar and escorted my friend to Nana plaza. After laughing my arse off at making my friend pay up the forfeit for losing our bet on the football (see a previous post).
The inevitable happened and I found myself walking into the plaza again. I went and I think was inside about 3 or 4 bars, I was a bit pissed at this point and in a very good mood about the football. Everything inside was telling me to just have a couple of beers and go home. Best laid plans and all that. I bar fined this very nice short girl with ample natural breasts, dark skin, a beautiful face and a very slim figure (right up my alley and I got up hers as soon as I could). When we got back to my place and after showering we got down to the business, or so I thought.
The BJ was very good and I felt confident about the forthcoming proceedings. I slipped on a condom and started off doggy style, all good so far. After about five minutes I felt tired so asked her to get on top. Bless her, she was trying like a Trojan, but despite all her efforts the beer caught up with me and I wilted badly. The BG even took the condom off and tried to finish proceedings with a HJ, which I appreciated, but the little man would not play ball and it was all over. Being honest it's not the first time this has happened and I'm sure it won't be the last.
I paid her thanked her for her efforts then collapsed on my bed.
Ciao, BJ
[QUOTE=Bamboo Pete;1221769]Magic Table is still open, I was in last week. But no impressive girls. Had just one drink and left. Dr. BJ is next to it.[/QUOTE]Pete, Thanks very much for the reply. I'll expect impressive girls though!
Someone needs to diagram Soi 7/1, how about it Dr BJ?
Last night was the first of 7 nights to enjoy the wonders of BKK. Checked into LL and headed out. Because it was late went over to Cowboy. Found a spinned with great attitude and all. Not a great body but was very thin and short so what would I expect. The beat part was she was readdy to go. Great BJ and FS. Found out she never had seen or used a Dildo. Man did she enjoy that. All for the reasonable price of 600 pluse 2000 for LT. So now need to decide about tonight and go get some lunch.
Hi BJ here.
Interesting night on Tuesday, when I came back to the salon at about 8:15, we had a partial power cut. The staff had already shut off some of the lights and other electrical stuff. Well about half an hour later we had a total black out along with a small part of the surrounding area.
I suffered the lack of air-con for about 40 minutes then thought bollocks to this and went for a walk up to Soi 8. I was there with a friend of mine and went into Soi 8 bar. Very nice surroundings and after making some enquiries it turns out they show English football on Saturday nights.
I will definitely be going back there to watch a few games. Anyway my friend had been there before so he recommended we have a pint of Warsteiner, needless to say a German beer, and very tasty it was. We were almost through our second pint when one of the staff called to say the power was back on, so back to work it was.
After leaving the salon just after 1am I could feel the lure of Nana plaza drawing me towards it like a siren singing her beautiful tempting song on a far flung island. I went into Straps and had a couple of beers, have to say the quality of the girls dancing there is good. After that I had 2 more beers in Angel witch but resisted the temptation to pay a bar fine. Probably for the best because when I got home I was asleep very quickly. Money and integrity intact.
Ciao, BJ
Where did you buy the toy?
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1222273]Where did you buy the toy?[/QUOTE]Walk on Sukhimvit near Nana direction to Soi 23 and you will see them on sale, at stalls mixed with DVD's, Viagra and Cialis etc.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1216721]Good question. My POV:
[b]How to understand the flood news right now[/b]
We basically get good news about receding water from the north of Bangkok and the districts further north (Ayutthaja etc.) , and bad news about inundated areas and rising water from the east / south-east / west side of the city.
You must think about a giant lake moving south, covering a huge area, but being not very deep (2-3 m max). That means, that we will get good news about receding water in the northern areas the lake covers, and bad news about rising water in the southern areas the lake moves into. There is only very little slope towards sea level, that makes the movement of the lake quite slow. That's good and bad. It prolongs the flood in some areas, because the water moves on very slowly, but it also gives the canal and pumping system (BMA drainage system) time to pump water into the rivers.
Reaching the flood barriers the water is blocked, rises in front of the flood barriers and finally leaks through or overflows the barriers.
The Flood barriers buy time for the BMA's drainage system. Water flows into the canals to pumping stations, from where it is then pumped into the 3 rivers here in the Chao Praya delta and finally flows into the Gulf of Thailand. In total the lake gets smaller every day, but it is still there, and it is still huge.
[b]Critical areas[/b]
In the west of Bangkok (other side of the river) many districts are inundated (Nonthaburi etc.). In the east / south east Bang Chen and Lad Krabang industrial estates are seeing rising water levels and struggle to survive.
[b]Suvaranabhumi airport[/b]
The airport and the roads from the airport into the mongering / tourist areas have not seen any flood yet. But. The moving lake has just started to reach the area north of the airport (Lad Krabang industrial estate). We don't really know right now how bad that area around the airport will be effected.
[b]Will the mongering area (Sukhumvit, Central Bangkok) be flooded? [/b]
Most likely not. This area is protected by two giant flood tunnels (near Makhasan / Ratchadapisek and Rama 9) and an effective pumping system. Risk is that the pumps fail, or it starts to rain. There was no major rainfall (just a little bit) in the last 10 days, and the raining season should be over. The pumps are more or less working fine. Up to now.
[b]Bangkok dry in 2 weeks[/b]
Some politicians voiced their opinion since Friday, that Bangkok will be dry in 10 days / 2 weeks. That will NOT happen. It will last longer.
[b]Supply situation[/b]
It's still tense, but basically you find everything you need. The 7/11 shops are somehow badly managed, they have some product shortages every day. Other shops are well stocked (Villa Market, Emporium).
We don't get any draft beer right now (Singha, Tiger, Heineken). So we have to sell bottles. No major issue.
Prices for nearly everything have risen (eggs, vegetables, bottled water etc. Etc.).
There is a fight (BMA against flood) ongoing to keep Rama II road open. That's the main traffic connection to the South, located in the west of Bangkok, and right now the main road to deliver goods from logistic centers into the city. The road was closed yesterday afternoon for some hours, and it is now open again. We all don't know the outcome of this ongoing battle in the days to come. If the road needs to be closed for a longer period of time the supply situation in Bangkok could deteriorate.
[b]Tap Water[/b]
It smells a bit "muddy", but still looks clean. Don't drink it, and you should be ok. Up to now it did not cause any problems for the employees / customers here at Livingstone's Lodge.
[b]Health issues[/b]
Many reports about rashes and skin diseases from those living in the flood. No major outbreak of water-born infectious diseases up to now. Still. Stay away from the water, it's dirty and polluted with all kinds of stuff picked up on the way down from the North. Don't become a flood tourist!
[b]Mongering situation[/b]
A buyers market. Many girls have left to help their families in the inundated areas, but there are still a lot opportunities out there. Hotels are empty. You can get cheap rooms / special offers everywhere.
[b]Conclusion[/b]
There are still certain risks to travel to Bangkok, but it is somehow manageable now. I still believe that there are better places than Bangkok right now. If you want to go for a vacation.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
PS: Video:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvzJE8iGUoA&feature=share[/url][/QUOTE]Dear Giotto, just came back from Thailand after 2 weeks there including BKK. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your updated and accurate information regarding the floods. I can confirm almost all your information provided to us in this Forum. Please continue with your great work and contributions. Warm regards
Many thanks to Giotto also for the updates. I have seen in the past 2 days that the tourists are not what it used to be. Many places are saying there is a lack of customers. Still many things going on. Stopped by Mango and 10 ladies looking for work. I selected cheer and it was woth the time and money. She has a good attitude, good body and Does what ever you want. So took advantage of many opportunites she offered. Different positionsm, BBBJCIM was the finish. Now I will say the massage was not the best, but I wasn't there for the massaage.
So last night after dinner found a very nice lady who offered her service for a very fair price. She proved to be good selection and was fun to be with. Might try her later on this week again. She stood out to me because she was tall. Not that common for a Thai lady. I don't want to get into the adventure as I think it would be good to protect her. If you know where I am staying you can figure it out the area I was in.
So 2 yesterday and today is day to recouperate and get it down to one. Understand some new shows at cowboy and nana so might need to check them out.
Hi BJ here.
I haven't had had a day off for just over a week now, been too busy in the salon. As I left to go home on Wednesday night it was just after 1 am and I had a couple of beers in the salon. I was not feeling too tired, which is rare. I considered the options and honestly did not fancy Nana plaza or Cowboy (too much of a good thing can be detrimental).
As I was walking past Thermae amidst the street bars and the interesting collection of ladies I was partially approached by a striking looking lady who came out with all the stereotypical lines. What your name? Hello, sir where you go? Usually I simply walk past and politely tell them I'm tired and need to go home to sleep but this girl was really hot for a freelancer.
I spoke to her for a bit then suggested we had a drink at one of the street bars. A mild panic swept over me briefly when I remembered a lot of the freelancers are lady boys or katoey. However after a few minutes conversation it became glaringly obvious that this was the real deal. I took her back to my place, which was within walking distance.
After the customary dual shower I felt really rampant. This was a babe, she had fair skin, large natural breasts, long hair, an amazing figure and one of the prettiest faces I have seen for a long time. I skipped any pretence of conversation and got right down to it. After doing the both hand warm up I have to say I had a massive hard-on. Next I spread her legs and started tonguing the little man in the boat. Something I really don't mind doing, especially when the girl is as hot as she was. She moaned like a baby crying in the distance and I didn't stop until she came twice. Now I know some guys really don't like doing this but I honestly get turned on by watching them writhing on the bed in contorted ecstasy, what's more they are so turned on and horny the BJ they give is guaranteed to be better.
After what has to be said was a fantastic BJ she slipped a condom on me, man I was really turned on, I tossed her onto her back jumped on and started hammering away like an Olympic athlete (well it felt like I was making the effort of an athlete).
After about 5 minutes I decided to slip a finger in her other hole, she looked startled at first but then settled down to enjoying it, so I suggested a bit of anal. Surprisingly she was reluctant until I suggested a cash incentive, at which point she agreed. I tell you 'money doesn't talk, it swears'. It was a huge turn on watching her back arch and such a fit body I couldn't control myself any longer and blew my load. She suggested staying for a LT but I was not interested, so thanked her, paid her and said goodbye. May try to seek her out again, actually I should have taken her phone number. Well not to worry, pretty successful evening.
Ciao, BJ
Just to continue from yesterdays report. Went to visit a few places during the afternoon. Eventully stopped at Dr. BJ's salon Had a nice long talk with Dr BJ. Will have to come back before I leave. So last night wanted to see what Cowboy had to offer. Lots of girls and not that many guys. Lots to pick from. Went to Baccara and saw the naked show. Some real bueaties but only 3 songs. During that time found a nice one to play rub mine and I rub yours. Didn't realize they had on no underwear under that skirt and this was down stairs. So enjoyed it as much as you can with all the people around. She wanted a BF but I was trying to cool and take the day off. So I left and tried a few other places. Some good talent out there. Now the night is getting long and I decide to stop in one of the little bars. While setting there a cute one walks by. You work here I ask, yes she says. Lets go inside and I buy you drink. I ask about her tits and she says they are small as I massage them. Not to small though. She grabs the boy and starts to massages it. Wants to un zip things and play. OK, good idea. Next thing we are in a room with a bed and she has a very nice body. Good BJ and likes to have DATY. After that get on top and she is tight. Proceed to get the deed done. I tell her she needs to get some lube as she was that tight. After we finish she suggests her friend and her next time. I am thinking girl on girl, but the answer is no. Only 2 girls. So I head home call it a night. I guess it wasn't quiet like I thought it would be. Friend is cute so it is something to think about.
Now wanted something to eat but everything closed. DAM, this place needs a 24 hour place near me. More tomorrow as exploring takes place. Hope you are finding this helpful
Went to Annies to start the evening lasy night. See report in annies thread. Came back to hotel ony to find a girl who I knew from a few days ago. She is very nice and quite attractive I think. Also rather tall for a Thai person. Seems to attentative to everything and so I enoy her company. Have to admit there are some nice lookers around here. Seems the tourist are not here like I would expect. So that means good pickings.
Stoppped at Nana last night and went in to a new little bar. Forget the name but you go up the stairs to the left to the second level. Turn left again. And it is right there. Little place but a couple of good ones it looks like. Just some info for those who havn't been here in a while and looking to adventure out some what. Went to spankies and had a water. They are charging 130 Baht for the water. That over $4. 00 US, guess there is a shortage, at least I hope so. Spanks had some lookers and of course they are either topless or naked. The girl in the corner taking a shower kept covrering up the inportant part with the soap. Better to just watch the stage. Then next door to Angel Witch. They had a show. Nice dansing but nothing havn't seen before. Of course topless seems to be the norm. Betweent the two I would pick Spanks, but then I walked in just as show was starting at Angel Witch so didin't get a full view of the ladies working there.
Walked home and stopped by therma. Packed with girls but light on the guy side. A mix of nationalities for the guys. This was about 10:30. Might need to check it out a later day. From there went home and stopped for dinner. Now it is early morning and time to start over again.
Again hope this is helping some future travelers
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1221484]Have you actually ever been in Thailand?
It is my experience that Thai-ladies are quite conservative and are, generally, not at all "kinky" or into "perversions". They are great in the GFE department though and as for looks, that is of course a matter of taste.[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht. You are spot on!
Mr Super Cum 500 has been pestering the German FKK forums with nothing but questions and no actual reports of any kind. He has never been to any German FKK's, and he has never been to Thailand. So whenever he writes "It is my experience" you should take that with a very large grain of salt.
Gentleman,
I am fairly new to the forum and just wanted to have a good start.
First. Introducing myself. I'm a Asian born in the US but thanks to good opportunity have learnt to speak my native tongue.
I will be headed to BKK within 3 days and wanted to get some feedback on what places to avoid and hit up as my stay will only be for four days.
I'm at my mid 20's thus have a bit of a high eye.
Looking to experience perhaps what a normal gf wouldn't do (back door, CIM, CIA, etc).
Will be sure to put up my reports and if anyone can give me any tips on perhaps a good outcall service where the escorts would be open to my interests please let me know. Once again, thanks for having me here.
I got a seven hour stop over at the Suvarnabhumi airport. What is the easiest way to meet some girls close to the airport with this limited amount of time? Do I have to take the express rail down town or are there any venues close to the airport?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function did not find anything.
Thank you.
Just look for the threads below about massage shops. Forget about escorts.
Stopped by last night for an evening delight. I had stopped before just to see what it is like. So here is my opinion on the presentation. It stands out because it is new. It is tasteful and very clean. The boss is very helpful and willing to answer question. Good selection of ladies and all types were present last night. The service I received was very good and the lady very friendly. She spoke english which helped the overall experience. There are some new ones and some experienced ones working there. Up stairs the rooms are set up for the Dr. BJ experience. Small, but adequite. I loved the way the wash basin was set up to help with the cleaning before and after the deed was completed.
Would I go back. Definately. It was a good experience for me. Give it a try and see what you think. Definately heads above some of the other places around. Should mention SOL is a tiotally different style so I don't think you can compare except BJ part.
[QUOTE=LookiDeep;1223268]Looking to experience perhaps what a normal gf wouldn't do (back door, CIM, CIA, etc).[/QUOTE]If a normal gf wouldn't do those things then she wouldn't be a gf for long.
[QUOTE=Liveheree; 1223343]I got a seven hour stop over at the Suvarnabhumi airport. What is the easiest way to meet some girls close to the airport with this limited amount of time? Do I have to take the express rail down town or are there any venues close to the airport?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but the search function did not find anything.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Depends of course on the time of the day, but you have time to take a cab to sukhumvit, account an hour at worst, go to a soapie, account two hours for that. Or an MP, or even a FL for a ST in a nearby hotel, account another hour for the taxi to bring you back to the airport. The math says you you could have spent 4hrs in the process. As you can see you still have 3hrs comfort back for unexpcted extra traffic, for a beer or a coffe to' enjoy the view at Nana, not feeling rushed.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1223458]Depends of course on the time of the day, but you have time to take a cab to sukhumvit, account an hour at worst, go to a soapie, account two hours for that. Or an MP, or even a FL for a ST in a nearby hotel, account another hour for the taxi to bring you back to the airport. The math says you you could have spent 4hrs in the process. As you can see you still have 3hrs comfort back for unexpcted extra traffic, for a beer or a coffe to' enjoy the view at Nana, not feeling rushed.[/QUOTE]Better add another 30 minutes to an hour to get through immigration and the same time to get back inside the airport, all depending on time of day and how busy it is.
But it can be done.
If you are there at a moment when traffic is too busy, a nice option would be to take the Airport Rail link to Makkasan station, which is only 5 minutes by motorcycle taxi away from Soi Cowboy and 10 minutes from Nana.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1223458]Depends of course on the time of the day, but you have time to take a cab to sukhumvit, account an hour at worst, go to a soapie, account two hours for that. Or an MP, or even a FL for a ST in a nearby hotel, account another hour for the taxi to bring you back to the airport. The math says you you could have spent 4hrs in the process. As you can see you still have 3hrs comfort back for unexpcted extra traffic, for a beer or a coffe to' enjoy the view at Nana, not feeling rushed.[/QUOTE]Theres a soapie near Suvarnabhumi called Tarawadee. Not often mentioned but very high quality girls.
Girls start coming in around 3+ 4. Place is 10-15mins frm airport max which leaves you more time to relax and enjoy the sights.
[QUOTE=Kenster; 1223469]Theres a soapie near Suvarnabhumi called Tarawadee. Not often mentioned but very high quality girls.
Girls start coming in around 3+ 4. Place is 10-15mins frm airport max which leaves you more time to relax and enjoy the sights.[/QUOTE]Good to know for very short connection (still long enough enabling one to exit the airport)
Trust the taxi drivers know about it and are not too greedy as if distance is shrot they will not be happy! LOL
[QUOTE=Kenster; 1223469]Theres a soapie near Suvarnabhumi called Tarawadee. Not often mentioned but very high quality girls.
Girls start coming in around 3+ 4. Place is 10-15mins frm airport max which leaves you more time to relax and enjoy the sights.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much, this sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.
[quote=ding ding; 1221204]sorry for the long post. i hope you will still find the facts you are looking for. english is not my mother tongue.
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so, here i was again. the traffic of sukhumvit road taking my breath, sweat running down my back. carefully placing my feet along the walkway with its many pitfalls, signs and piles standing in my way.
why didn't i take the cab? i am the longtime guy. i enjoy the hunt as much as the deed. and today i was going to a new place. a short time place. so it makes sense to me to take my time to get there.
i walked along soi 23 just meters away from soi cowboy and memories of my last night came to my mind. bad memories. memories of me taking the wrong girl from long gun minutes before the go go was going to close. she was the girl who did the pussy tricks. not the best looking for sure and actually it turns me off every time to see them playing the darts and cigarette. so why did i choose her? she smiled at me. simple as that. funny that the girls, however professional they are, hardly use the simplest but most approved and most powerful flirt technique: the smile.
i ask her to accompany my long night and bar fine her 600 baht. in my room the old routine. her body appealed me more in the lights of the bar. but i am not too picky. my turn on is the response i get from the girl. and i get this response. teasing and kissing her sensitive areas, a bit finger play and her pussy juices start flowing. she has a good smell. a smell that makes man hot. i cannot resist, put her on her back and start licking her softly. she likes this. yes, she really likes it. it takes time, but she gets hotter and hotter and finally comes hard heavily pressing my head between her legs. i can smell here salty cum. this is the signal for my little brother. condom on and easily sliding into her wet pussy. a tiny girl, but she has no problems to take my member.
then it turns bad. very bad. after a few seconds she asks me to come quickly. she wants to visit a friend. i drew the mega zonk. damned. i am not new to this business but pick the worst girl of soi cowboy? shame on me. so i finish quickly, pay her 1500 and send her away. she asks me if i am ok. no, i am not. i tell her, but it does not make sense to discuss. in this type of business you cannot enforce your deal with even the best lawyer. i missed my chance. now it is too late to pick another girl. time to sleep. i feel pissed.
for sure i will not go back to long gun for the next 12 months. a bar should guarantee a minimum quality of service. therefore i pay the bar fine.
but that was yesterday. a lesson learned.
now i was heading to snow white massage, down sukhumvit, passing by emporium mall. for a second i am tempted to shorten my trip and go to mango massage instead. i stop and ponder. it is hot. i feel hot. and thirsty. but i remember my session with ice. a hot session and very hardcore. but i am the flowers and bees type. the 2 hours with ice made my dick sore and swollen and the worst: useless for the next 4 days. a high price to pay. no, let's go to snow white and see what they have to offer.
so another walk. air is still hot and burning in my lungs. but here we are, soi 26. i turn right. the massage is just a few meters from sukhumvit on the left. i have to cross the street. many cars are heading towards sukhumvit road. i know a lot of people in bangkok. what if somebody sees me entering this place? hey, bangkok has more than 12 million people. why should this happen to me? ok. i cross the street and walk inside.
i am the long time guy. i really do not like the situation awaiting me right after the entrance. a few girls sitting there, one behind the desk. no chance to scan the girls, no chance to estimate their mood, no chance to find signs of sympathy.
i say "2 hours". not very poetic nor romantic. but it is the right keyword. she is shouting a name, not romantic neither, and a girl shows up. at first sight not a beauty. but these places have another fame. the fame that brought me here.
like in all the other places (tulip and mango) it goes upstairs. i am still hot and sweating and the stairs are small. i hate these stairs. i look upwards. her booty in tiny leggins just inches away from my face. i love these stairs.
we reach the room. the girl is very friendly. slim body, long hair. face a bit chinese. her name is cream, like ice cream.
she asks me if i wish anything to drink and leaves. i inspect the room. it is much bigger than the cabins in tulip. they have a bigger shower, a sofa and a mirror along the bed. i start thinking about what i might see in this mirror in a few minutes.
after she returns to our room with my drink, she starts to undress me slowly in a way a servant would do. finally she drops my pants and my prick is jumping into her face. she does not take a second to suck it all up. very soft, very wet, very deep. heaven is on earth.
i took a shower before i walked over and feel clean. i am wondering if she did the same if guys did not come fresh and clean?
a few minutes and we go to shower. she treats me like a king, cleans every inch very carefully. whenever there is a chance she sucks me and keeps my member well up and alive. i help her to wash herself and feel her stiff tits. god, why did you send us all the nasty diseases? i want to fuck her here in the shower, right now, bareback. but i cannot!
of we move to the bed. i kiss her. i suck her neck. i suck her tits and fingerplay with her pussy. she moans as if i am the first man doing this to her in her life. i know this is fake. but it is good fake. we foreplay half an hour. she turns me around in any direction, i twist her in any other way. great fun for a short time. i really enjoy. i lick her all around and so does she with focus on my balls and anywhere around my crotch. man, i really want to get into her. i have to stop, pick the condom and put it on. somehow the flow of energy interrupted. so i spend another 10 minutes with foreplay and kissing and then we slide into each other. we fuck every way. she can read my mind. no need to speak, no need to indicate. we melted into one. i recognize the beauty of her hair. perfect and shiny. i play with it, wish she had made pigtails of it. or any other hairstyle. i must come. we turn to doggy and i hump her heavily. then i take out my dick, rip of the condom and shoot my load over her back and booty. man, what a load. i thought i should have been empty after last days action, but i was wrong. all her back is whet, i shot her hair and my juice is dripping down her asshole and. i am knocked out. my body and brain have to restart. once back i excuse for shooting my semen into her hair. she just smiles.
we go for a shower and back to bed. the mirror. i was fucking a hot girl for half an hour centimeters away from this mirror and did not spend one look? next round i will. promised.
she asks me if i want a massage. not a new, but great idea. i turn over on my stomach and she gives a really good massage. a bit relaxing, a bit therapeutic. perfectly matching the situation.
we go for round two with the same enthusiasm as before. this time i remember the mirror. hot. i am getting used to this girl. what could i do with her next time? the massage places should offer a selection of fetish. i want her in stockings, i want her in school dress, i want her be a nurse, i want her. i want another girl. i want more. why doesn't the shop give suggestions? why not a "specials" menu?
time was over. we dress. i hide 1500 baht between her clothes. we kiss and say goodbye. she guides me down to the counter. mammasan is asking additional 400 baht as we are over time. really? yes, she is right. at least 20 minutes over time. did einstein find the formula describing the relation between time and sexual arousement?
cream stands in for me and helps me to avoid additional payment. nice girl. nice place. i am happy. in arnold's words: i will be back![/quote]creme is definately my favorite at snow white. pretty, personable and will drain you for sure!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1223567]Good to know for very short connection (still long enough enabling one to exit the airport)
Trust the taxi drivers know about it and are not too greedy as if distance is shrot they will not be happy! LOL[/QUOTE]I think it can be done over a 7 hour layover, but again, it can be as little as 15-30 minutes with almost no traffic, or it can be 2 hours of traffic BOTH ways, especially since Srinakarin Road is under construction / renovation in about a dozen places at the moment. But yeah, this is the closest quality place to the airport. One of my favorites in fact.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1223466]Better add another 30 minutes to an hour to get through immigration and the same time to get back inside the airport, all depending on time of day and how busy it is.
But it can be done.
If you are there at a moment when traffic is too busy, a nice option would be to take the Airport Rail link to Makkasan station, which is only 5 minutes by motorcycle taxi away from Soi Cowboy and 10 minutes from Nana.[/QUOTE]You are right, but as I am a lucky man to fly in Royal Silk I tend to forget the possible long ques for Y passengers both directions.
True taht the taxi can take long time in both direction. It took me over an hour one mnring at 7am and also 90' one evening at 8pm (with heavy rain)
My destination and starting point is usually in Sukhumvit is S33.
Soi 4 with Nana and about is just off a highway exit, BTW, so that saves some time in case of bad traffic.
More rare to get the same on both directions on same day. Even if. One never know.
Still sufficient time.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1223892]You are right, but as I am a lucky man to fly in Royal Silk I tend to forget the possible long ques for Y passengers both directions.
True taht the taxi can take long time in both direction. It took me over an hour one mnring at 7am and also 90' one evening at 8pm (with heavy rain)
My destination and starting point is usually in Sukhumvit is S33.
Soi 4 with Nana and about is just off a highway exit, BTW, so that saves some time in case of bad traffic.
More rare to get the same on both directions on same day. Even if. One never know.
Still sufficient time.[/QUOTE]I also travel Royal Silk usually, but never found a "fast immigration" lane on arrival. Did I miss it?
Otherwise, yes, on departing, the royal silk counter gets you through in 2 minutes.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1223892]You are right, but as I am a lucky man to fly in Royal Silk I tend to forget the possible long ques for Y passengers both directions.[/QUOTE]Ah yes! A man of refinement. I don't fly in Royal Silk but I do have a big dick.
[QUOTE=Ding Ding;1221204]Sorry for the long post. I hope you will still find the facts you are looking for. English is not my mother tongue.[/QUOTE]Frederick Forsyth couldn't have written a better FR: every moment more thrilling than the last. BTW is there a connection between the long post and English being your second language?
[QUOTE=Grateful Spread; 1223936]Ah yes! A man of refinement. I don't fly in Royal Silk but I do have a big dick.
Frederick Forsyth couldn't have written a better FR: every moment more thrilling than the last. BTW is there a connection between the long post and English being your second language?[/QUOTE]Didn't find a suitable hole for your big dick today?
I didn't mean to sound harsh but just to explain why I accounted some 10' for immigration both ways and security checks on the way out.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1223923]I also travel Royal Silk usually, but never found a "fast immigration" lane on arrival. Did I miss it?
Otherwise, yes, on departing, the royal silk counter gets you through in 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]Go the right end of the immigration booths line and there are 3-4 fast lane, one crew / diplomats and "special" (meaning families, wheelchairs etc)
Keep your (royal silk) boarding pass at hands to prove the allowed access, unless you have been given the special card on board (but they do not give it anymore, I think, cost saving). Usually no more than 3-4 people in line per booth.
It is a bit hidden and not clearly visibile. Suggest you walk through the fenced path on the right of the access from terminal to immigration (just where there are some duty free stalls)
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1223972]Didn't find a suitable hole for your big dick today?[/QUOTE]Good one! I deserved your rejoinder. Actually no - only an unsuitable one.
[QUOTE=Grateful Spread;1223993]Good one! I deserved your rejoinder. Actually no - only an unsuitable one.[/QUOTE]As it is not going to cost me a penny, I ring the bell, this one is on me! LOL.
(see how one can be generous even if flying Royal Silk!)
[QUOTE=Grateful Spread;1223993]Good one! I deserved your rejoinder. Actually no - only an unsuitable one.[/QUOTE]Lady fivefingers?
i have been in town for the last few days. everything in central is back to normal from my observations. plenty of food, booze, girls, tourists and lb's. staying at the adelphi suites. they were offering a great deal at $65 a night for a 48 sq. ft. suite. has a kitchen, washer / dryer. nice place.
i have hit up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s twice. there is a girl there who is not that attractive, but has a nice body. she got totally nude and started sucking. within one minute, she was trying to board me bareback while i was sitting in the booth. i had this happen one other time there, but the girl was hammered drunk. this one really surprised me.
i have not been impressed with the gogo girls at cowboy and nana. in fact, there a tons of sw's here. many are as good quality as the gogo's and much cheaper. have taken two for 1200 and 1500 lt. they love my hotel and the breakfast.
the mp scene is good as usual. never been turned down for fs at any mp in bkk. there is a place near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on soi 8 called aviva. good fs spot with big room and shower.
there are many, many lb's here now. out of curiosity, i did go into one (2nd floor nana) for a drink. the place was packed with dudes kissing and feeling up the lb's. a few of the lb's had their tops completely off and dudes were sucking their tits and lb feeling their cocks in the booths. one offered me fs for 3k upstairs. i was not interested, but i have to admit, it was very cute. also, lots of lb sw's all around nana and sukhumvit.
it has not been too hot and i am having a great time here. it is a perfect time to come.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1224243]Time to explore your innerness. This ladyboy thing you need to find out whats there, you may still be in the closet, and now is the time to cum out![/QUOTE]Harold444,
Why don't you go there and try it out? The Boyz Zone in Patpong might be an alternative, too.
There are some people writing interesting [honest] reports here, and others just throwing shit at them. For nothing. What the hell ...
Giotto
PS: Come on, man, write a nice report about your experiences in Bangkok's gay bars. All the comments on posts of others - that's boring.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1224271]Look at it this way. A televised sporting event has a lead announcer and then a guy who does analysis. A lot of us like to do analysis![/QUOTE]Well. Each one to his own ANALysing. You are correct.
Different folks, different opinions, different ANALyses
[quote=ding ding; 1221204].
now i was heading to snow white massage, down sukhumvit, passing by emporium mall. soi 26. i turn right. the massage is just a few meters from sukhumvit on the left. no chance to scan the girls, no chance to estimate their mood, no chance to find signs of sympathy.
the girl is very friendly. slim body, long hair. face a bit chinese. her name is cream, like ice cream.
nice girl. nice place. i am happy. in arnold's words: i will be back![/quote]bro,
i wish there was a way i could offer you a drink and thank you personally for indicating snow white and your remarquable report.
i followed your steps and headed to snow white today, last day of my trip, having cream in mind. unfortunately, and at first i really thought "what a shitty trip." because cream had gone away for a week and is not in bangkok. here is what happened.
i then asked the lady at the desk who could she recommend with the same quality of services and eventually looks (i am crazy about chinese girls or with chinese descent.).
unlike what you reported though, there were about 6 girls in the room next to the reception. so after she recommended to take fa from the catalogue she opened for me to look at the girl's pictures, she waved me to the next room and told me i could look at them and choose.
the first one to talk, since her name was mentionned and she must have heard it, was fa. she invited me to choose anyone of the other girls saying that the service was equally good from all girls.
i hesitated between fa and a much taller girl with whiter skin but not so charming face, chatted a few words with another one who did not sound very smart and looked skinnier with darker skin, and finally opeted for fa as she seemed to be the most joyful and charming.
she is not what you could call a beauty and not very tall either, i guess shorter than cream though i have not seen the latter except on her picture. she is also a litle bit chubbier shall we say, but in a kinda nice way. small breasts, which are my favorite anyways, well proportioned body, and she is 27 years old, as i learnt later.
i must say that i have a few miles on my monguering counter, but fa will undoubtedly be one of my best and memorable experience. she made the overall encounter as if we had known each other for a long time. she promised from the beginning that she would make me laugh for 2 hours and she was co cute and funny that she basically kept that promise.
she was joyful, playful, gentle, attentionate, kind, yet very professional in the best of ways and obviously enjoying what she was doing.
after the ritual shower, we moved to the bed and she started kissing and licking me all over, (something i learnt to appreciate in indonesia) including rimming for quite a while, including one of the best, if not the best bbbj i ever had. i made her turn around and we did some daty. though i am quite sure she was faking it, the noises she was making and the spasms of her muscles were quite a turn on. she has a very beautiful round butt with just rightly generous cheeks.
she made me lay face down then oiled all my back and the front of her body then started an oily body massage which was very nice indeed, especially when she lifted my butt and massaged my dick while rimming. boy ohhh boy. no one ever has done that to me. i used to see that only in movies. well there i was. experincing it.
i then turned around and made her sit with her pussy on my dick and she started moving back and forth. she got the message instantly by adding some lube to make the sensation even better.
at some point i felt that i had to get into that pussy so she slipped a condom on it then started riding it, slow at fisrt, because i am bigger than most asians, but then after a while she got very excited and when we turned into missionary, she really went wild.
i would have liked to take her doggy but. she was too good to delay the outcome any further.
after that, she just asked me to relax, took the condom out and cleaned me up, then started to massage me gently while talking about everything and nothing special, all the time laughing and smiling.
after maybe 15 or 20 minutes, (not really sure as time seemed to have decided to speed up.) , she started caressing my dick and again went down on me with a very nice bbbj.
as i was getting really excited again, i just asked her gently if i could take her ass and, . to my surprise she simply replied yes. i had to make her repeat it twice as i just could not believe my luck. here was a lovely lady, sexy, beautiful, charming, accepting to let me analyse her. she slipped another condom om me, turned around, offering me her very sexy and beautiful open butt cheeks in the doggy position, guiding me to her glory hole veeery slowly.
needless to say that i did not last a very long time. this was just too good to be true.
we then got cleaned up and it was time to go down as the 2 hours were just over. i gave her a generous tip which made her happy and went down to pay for the session.
if you do go to see fa, please, please, be extremely nice to her as she will certainly repay you a thousand times with her kindness and by ensuring you will leave much happier than when you walked in. i believe she truly is a gem in the business and deserves all the consideration you should give her. please do not mention that you read a report about her, and respect her dignity, and i thank you for it. just let her take care of you, and she will.
enjoy.
[QUOTE=Knight 1001; 1224581]Bro,
The first one to talk, since her name was mentionned and she must have heard it, was FA. .
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Here are some pictures of FA taken from Snowwhite internet site. [url]http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/[/url]
You can click on each girl and see her other pictures of her.
I recently called it quits, with this Thai bird. It was nice free sex, beautiful girl, why she liked me I have no idea, maybe I am handsome. Perhaps I will regret my decision when I am back to spending money all the time (not just some of the time). The reason. She simply raked in too much cash from abroad. I just started to feel like I was part of the scam too.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me, but why are motherfuckers so stupid! Even if I was rich, I could not see myself just sending money to some Thai girl I would see occasionally. And what is even more puzzling, is how these men talked to this girl. Reading the mushy high school nonsense, these 50 and 60+ year old men would text this girl would make me laugh out loud.
Any suggestions for getting laid at the airport Novotel, I will be staying there a couple of days waiting for a buddy to get in
Wonder what all the expats doing on an early afternoon or even a late morning if you don't want to go to an massage.
GoGo's opens much later, even the Soi 33 infrastructure opens maybee 16:00 to 18:00. Well, theres the Biergarden, I know.
But whats avalaible otherwise? Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Oidar; 1224762]I recently called it quits, with this Thai bird. It was nice free sex, beautiful girl, why she liked me I have no idea, maybe I am handsome. Perhaps I will regret my decision when I am back to spending money all the time (not just some of the time). The reason. She simply raked in too much cash from abroad. I just started to feel like I was part of the scam too.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me, but why are motherfuckers so stupid! Even if I was rich, I could not see myself just sending money to some Thai girl I would see occasionally. And what is even more puzzling, is how these men talked to this girl. Reading the mushy high school nonsense, these 50 and 60+ year old men would text this girl would make me laugh out loud.[/QUOTE]As an "old " man, I object to the usual cliches about old men being stupid, fat, ugly, bald etc.
If an old man is stupid, he was surely stupid as well when he was young. Which leads me to believe that there are also some stupid "young " men around, who will indeed become "stupid old men" in the future.
Do you really believe that only old men send money to younger Thai girls?
[QUOTE=Oidar; 1224762]I recently called it quits, with this Thai bird. It was nice free sex, beautiful girl, why she liked me
[...] I just started to feel like I was part of the scam too.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me, but why are motherfuckers so stupid! Even if I was rich, I could not see myself just sending money to some Thai girl I would see occasionally. And what is even more puzzling, is how these men talked to this girl. Reading the mushy high school nonsense, these 50 and 60+ year old men would text this girl would make me laugh out loud.[/QUOTE]Making you believe she liked you, you were hansum and all the others are were stupid old men could be already part of the plan. They know how to make you feel very special. I fell for a Thai girl once and she had literally boyfriends or sponsors from all kind of countries, ages and social status. But of course I was her only "real love" and I didn't have to send money.
[QUOTE=Oidar; 1224762]I recently called it quits, with this Thai bird. It was nice free sex, beautiful girl, why she liked me I have no idea, maybe I am handsome. Perhaps I will regret my decision when I am back to spending money all the time (not just some of the time). The reason. She simply raked in too much cash from abroad. I just started to feel like I was part of the scam too.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me, but why are motherfuckers so stupid! Even if I was rich, I could not see myself just sending money to some Thai girl I would see occasionally. And what is even more puzzling, is how these men talked to this girl. Reading the mushy high school nonsense, these 50 and 60+ year old men would text this girl would make me laugh out loud.[/QUOTE]If you ask me, you're the stupid old man in this story. Am I missing something?
Why would you give up nice free sex with a beautiful girl who likes you just because guys are sending her money?
She's a hooker; you knew that, didn't you?
The other guys aren't your problem.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1224849]As an "old " man, I object to the usual cliches about old men being stupid, fat, ugly, bald etc.
If an old man is stupid, he was surely stupid as well when he was young. Which leads me to believe that there are also some stupid "young " men around, who will indeed become "stupid old men" in the future.
Do you really believe that only old men send money to younger Thai girls?[/QUOTE]Yea, you tell him Dreams, haven't you ever heard of the saying " Young dumb and full of cum " plus are you saying that when one gets old the guy turns from pitbull to a pussy cat?
I would have taken Daddy07, suggestion and kept fucking her at the other guys expense!
LBM
Can someone please tellme where this place is? Approx cost for 90 minutes and how is the quality of girls. Visually and skillvise?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ex Patgav; 1174239]Just got back from the Eden Club. Wow!
Without a doubt the best one and a half hours of my life. I had a beer before I made my choice and was explained the system and the costs by the French guy who I believe is the manager or owner.
Picked a girl from the non-anal side of the line was intending on picking from the anal side but nothing caught my eye) , let her pick her friend, can't rember the names (crap with names in general, sorry) , up to the room, which was quite good, much better in comparison to Annies.
Assisted shower with girl one, very pleasant, hand dryed by girl two. Round one, girl one is blowing me while girl two is licking my balls, I am lying there watching them in the ceiling mirror and also looking at the big smile on my own face. A very enjoyable time.
After this I was given a great massage by both girls then a bit of girl on gilr to get me going again, after some kissing and oral girl two dons the strap on and starts to fuck girl one while girl one is sucking my cock, this goes on for a while then girl one says 'you fuck her while she fucks me' off we all go, girl one on her back, girl two in missionary and me fucking girl two doggy, a great time.
Round three was the girls taking turns in blowing me while the other was licking my nipples, kissing me etc.
Both girls were chatty and good fun too.
All in all, a fabulous time, I am lying on my bed typing this and still smiling, will head out soon for dinner and a few beers but I think thats all tonight, I am spent![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nullnull;1224850]Making you believe she liked you, you were hansum and all the others are were stupid old men could be already part of the plan. They know how to make you feel very special. I fell for a Thai girl once and she had literally boyfriends or sponsors from all kind of countries, ages and social status. But of course I was her only "real love" and I didn't have to send money.[/QUOTE]I fell for a Thai girl too. Initially she was a naive, young virgin when I met her. She was planning marriage, meeting family etc. Very pretty girl from northern province. Had a decent job in BKK. We were both on a whirlwind romance for 3 years. Took her on vacations to Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. On the last trip together to Vietnam I felt like she is distancing herself. The signs were there like sneaking away to chat on the internet, getting out of the room to talk on the phone etc.
I never sent her any money on a monthly basis. Only bought her gifts and gave her some money on meeting. Later I still kept in touch with her online. She became very popular and had boyfriends from Australia, England and Germany. She visited all these places. English guy wanted to marry her. He was a young guy. But she said she did not like the weather but I believe since many guys were supporting her she thought she will be better off in BKK and can help her family.
It is easy to say that we should continue the relationship in spite of her running around. But the fact is you loose interest and love fast knowing she became a regular hooker not to mention what disease she catches from them.
First, I was not trying to take a shot at the physical appearence of older men. And perhaps some of these men are just playing her, they really do not give a shit about her, and the money is nothing to them. They enjoy emotional blackmail and constant lovesick bullshit. Which would make them the same as her, pathological liars. However, I believe these men truly care about her. They believe she cares about them. They believe they are the only ones giving this BKK office girl extras. This one guy would call her every 2 or 3 hours, and he was almost 30 years older than her!
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1224783]Any suggestions for getting laid at the airport Novotel, I will be staying there a couple of days waiting for a buddy to get in[/QUOTE]Why would anyone choose to stay two days at the Novotel airport? Taxi is 40 minutes at worst to red light districts, and the express train half that to Makkasan.
Get a cab to pick your friend up instead of wasting 2 days. There are some massage places halfway into town, but really why bother?
[QUOTE=SevenSatang; 1224823]Wonder what all the expats doing on an early afternoon or even a late morning if you don't want to go to an massage.
GoGo's opens much later, even the Soi 33 infrastructure opens maybee 16:00 to 18:00. Well, theres the Biergarden, I know.
But whats avalaible otherwise? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]They rest and gather their strengths for another night of fun!
Hello Lads,
I would like to know where I can find high class or VIP escorts in Bangkok? I would like to call for a girl in my hotel room. All tips and comments will be appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1224863]If you ask me, you're the stupid old man in this story. Am I missing something?
Why would you give up nice free sex with a beautiful girl who likes you just because guys are sending her money?
She's a hooker; you knew that, didn't you?
The other guys aren't your problem.[/QUOTE]LOL. I can't believe he threw away an opportunity like that ON PURPOSE! I tell my women that I don't want to be number 1. Number 1 has too many responsibilities. Let him send all the money and all that bullshit. (Actually I think it would be a bigger problem if they STOPPED sending money, because then they may expect something from me.) Hell, I will even help spend some of it, but I'm more comfortable being number 2. As number 2 they know they are getting nothing but hard dick and maybe a meal every now and then. C-H-I-P (Cheapness Has Its Privileges). If you ask me, pretty soon Oidar is going to be kicking himself in the ass for letting an opportunity like that slip through his hands. They only come every now and then and must not be squandered. They must be taken full advantage of while the getting is good.
Me: you with bf now?
Pi: No. Why you ask me bf. When he come I told you ok. And uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu my bf too. Do you my bf?
Me: ok.
Pi: Ok mean what. Yes or no.
Me: if you say.
Pi: Oh ok. That mean no.
Pi: I have plan next time you come will be with you any time you need
Pi: So if you just feel me like that I will save my self too. But this it's ture I like you so much
Me: ok. Bf come tomorrow na.
Pi: Yes. So what
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1224911]Can someone please tellme where this place is? Approx cost for 90 minutes and how is the quality of girls. Visually and skillvise?
Thanks[/QUOTE]You ask too many questions, like an Indian Bania- the answers are all there in the past posts. Just use the search function and you'll get the reports. Use Google map and you will find the location map. All your posts, I note have been queries!
[QUOTE=Bbbjlover2010; 1224997]Hello, Lads,
I would like to know where I can find high class or VIP escorts in Bangkok? I would like to call for a girl in my hotel room. All tips and comments will be appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Have you tried looking in the BKK Escorts thread?
[QUOTE=Suntangh R;1225037]You ask too many questions, like an Indian Bania- the answers are all there in the past posts. Just use the search function and you'll get the reports. Use Google map and you will find the location map. All your posts, I note have been queries![/QUOTE]That's because he is what his moniker says. Dead Man.
I usually surf this board from mobile phone and often can not do the search properly. The Internet is full of information but it does not supply time.
I did find was some answers I was looking for and simply did not want to delete or edit my post.
If you do find my posts annoying, please do add me to your ignore list.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1225080]That's because he is what his moniker says. Dead Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbbjlover2010; 1224997]Hello, Lads,
I would like to know where I can find high class or VIP escorts in Bangkok? I would like to call for a girl in my hotel room. All tips and comments will be appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Try googling it.
Lots of sites with options. Most of the girls are on several sites.
But why? Those girls are sitting around some bar and when they get the call they charge you 3 times as much.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1224849]As an "old " man, I object to the usual cliches about old men being stupid, fat, ugly, bald etc.
If an old man is stupid, he was surely stupid as well when he was young. Which leads me to believe that there are also some stupid "young " men around, who will indeed become "stupid old men" in the future.
Do you really believe that only old men send money to younger Thai girls?[/QUOTE]Young men THINK that old men are fools.
Old men KNOW that young men are fools.
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1225259]Young men THINK that old men are fools.
Old men KNOW that young men are fools.[/QUOTE]Perfect! I will have to steal that one!
If memory serves me well, I believe the sign says "C. I. P.".
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1223923]I also travel Royal Silk usually, but never found a "fast immigration" lane on arrival. Did I miss it?
Otherwise, yes, on departing, the royal silk counter gets you through in 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dreams;1224849]Do you really believe that only old men send money to younger Thai girls?[/QUOTE]Yah, all types of guys send these girls money: Old, young, fat, ugly, good looking, rich, poor, you name it!
The common denominator is that they are all STUPID! Anybody who send money to a whroe is stupid and a weak / amateur monger!
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1225425]Yah, all types of guys send these girls money: Old, young, fat, ugly, good looking, rich, poor, you name it!
The common denominator is that they are all STUPID! Anybody who send money to a whroe is stupid and a weak / amateur monger![/QUOTE]Personally, I do what I want with my own money. And, I could give a rat's ass what some guy on the internet thinks, or writes.
But, that's just me.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1225425]Yah, all types of guys send these girls money: Old, young, fat, ugly, good looking, rich, poor, you name it!
The common denominator is that they are all STUPID! Anybody who send money to a whroe is stupid and a weak / amateur monger![/QUOTE]Anybody who sends money to a whroe? I'd like to go further and say anybody who sends money to a woman, whether whroe or non-whroe. But like Fon Tok said, I'm not trying to tell a grown man what to do with his money.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1225428]Anybody who sends money to a whroe? I'd like to go further and say anybody who sends money to a woman, whether whroe or non-whroe. But like Fon Tok said, I'm not trying to tell a grown man what to do with his money.[/QUOTE]If we all live by these, then life is good for all-
The Eleven Whroemandments.
1. Thou shalt not overpay.
2. Thou shalt always pay.
3. Thou shalt not knowingly infect.
4. Thou shalt admit without grim realization that all women art whroes.
5. Thou shalt not covet thy Bretherens' kept whroe.
6. Similarly, thou shalt share freely thine whroes which thou doeth not laud perpetual monies unto.
7. Thou shalt not contract the Butt Flu.
8. Thou shalt feed thine whroes when her financial tenure exceeds four hours unless she hungers not by virtue of her oral ministrations upon thine sacred phallus.
9. Thou shalt initiate thine whroes into new avenues of depravity in the spirit of humanitarian business development acumen; future Johns shalt inherit the joys of her perversity.
10. Thou shalt not politely suggest that the ransom for thine whroe's body is for a benign expense such as taxi money.
11. Thou shalt not profess love unto a whroe unless it shall save thee money or open another orifice to thy divine ministrations.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1225436]11. Thou shalt not profess love unto a whroe unless it shall save thee money or open another orifice to thy divine ministrations.[/QUOTE]Damn Goat. You need to move #11 to #1.
[QUOTE=Ivanba;1225403]If memory serves me well, I believe the sign says "C. I. P.".[/QUOTE]No, sorry. CIP is not that. The fast lanes for immigration are at the extreme right of the immigration booths. You can't miss them when you are there
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1225427]Personally, I do what I want with my own money. And, I could give a rat's ass what some guy on the internet thinks, or writes.
But, that's just me.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=161409&d=1323494841[/url]
Is that the tip you left the bar beer girl at Simon Complex last night? ;)
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1223923]I also travel Royal Silk usually, but never found a "fast immigration" lane on arrival. Did I miss it?
Otherwise, yes, on departing, the royal silk counter gets you through in 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]Guess I missed it too as I frequently fly Thai Biz class and never say any fast track lane for arrivals for business class travelers.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1224914]I fell for a Thai girl too. Initially she was a naive, young virgin when I met her. She was planning marriage, meeting family etc. Very pretty girl from northern province. Had a decent job in BKK. We were both on a whirlwind romance for 3 years. Took her on vacations to Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. On the last trip together to Vietnam I felt like she is distancing herself. The signs were there like sneaking away to chat on the internet, getting out of the room to talk on the phone etc.
I never sent her any money on a monthly basis. Only bought her gifts and gave her some money on meeting. Later I still kept in touch with her online. She became very popular and had boyfriends from Australia, England and Germany. She visited all these places. English guy wanted to marry her. He was a young guy. But she said she did not like the weather but I believe since many guys were supporting her she thought she will be better off in BKK and can help her family.
It is easy to say that we should continue the relationship in spite of her running around. But the fact is you loose interest and love fast knowing she became a regular hooker not to mention what disease she catches from them.[/QUOTE]I am regularly in bed at night with little cuties (not gogo / bar girls) as they are on the phone to the boyfriend who calls at 1am or 2am. I keep my mouth shut and play with their pussy while they tell their boyfriend about how they are, what they are doing and how much they love each other.
Its not just Thailand, this is worldwide. Anyone who thinks that women nowadays are not shagging around a lot more than they used to needs to get their head tested.
The easiest sign for a man to know if the girl is interested in him (or stll interested) is simply how wet they get. If they get wet with foreplay they are horny and like you. If they are as dry as a bone then obviously they no longer want you.
Its like an erection, if you do not get hard the girl knows you are not interested. If she does not get wet, then she is not interested. If she is not wet time after time, then she is getting her sex elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1225467]No, sorry. CIP is not that. The fast lanes for immigration are at the extreme right of the immigration booths. You can't miss them when you are there[/QUOTE]CIP is a monger only line. It is for those who have "Cum In Pussy" during there stay. You get a quick STD check and cock inspection prior to departure.
Went to barfine my now regular Som the first night. Som is half Angel half Demon, can't live with or without her, so perfect for the night. We went to Climax and pleased to notice that most discos now open till at least 5AM, hooked up with her 2 girlfriends and went to bed around 8, after breakfast. Very nice session as usual, we slept all morning and parted after another round.
Then I was not up for anything night 2, still went to Insomnia but it was like being at a nice restaurant for dinner right after you just had lunch at the best place in town, you look at the buffet and just don't want to eat.
Night 3 might have been a repeat of night 2, started at Soi Cowboy and picked up Tukta (#103 at Baccara), but it was her birthday and she had to leave after ST to go to a party. Could not sleep and headed to Shock 39 till 5AM, then a taxi took me to Spicy, which had just closed. Finally I was directed by the guys from Spicy to some smaller disco on the second floor across the street, which is open all night. I did not see the name but it is directly across from Spicy and for sure it is well known by mongers. Surprise Wasana from my last trip walks in and immediately recognizes me. She works in Dubai (has pictures in her phone to prove it) and comes to BKK from time to time. She said she came back from Miss at the Intercontinental hotel, which is now the best disco in town. Can anyone confirm if the place is good? Anyway we left together at daylight and she is just a tiger in bed. She wanted to stay with me night 4 and take me to see a Thai show, nice perspective if I had more time, but I did not go.
Instead I headed to Baccara on Soi Cowboi and hooked up with Tukta again and her (real) sister Tan (#283), who was busy the previous night. Tukta is 1 year younger (just turned 22) , a bit taller maybe a bit prettier and kind of more wild. Tan is such a happy person, great girl, great smile, great time, great service. I was going to barfine both sisters but I guess Tukta was drunk, she left the bar and headed somewhere, she said to bed. So I took Tan to CM2 and observed the jealous mongers who approached her and got turned away every time. Tukta did call her sister several times (and she asked to talk to me as well every time to apologize for leaving the club). CM2 (at Novotel SiamSquare) was really good, they had an Egyptian themed party and a live band as always, but closed at 2:30AM. We were at the hotel by 3, at which point Tukta called and asked to join us. It was tempting but I had to wake up kind of early and I did not want to wait for her to get to my hotel, also thought she might still be drunk, so I figured I might as well stay with Tan since I had Tukta the day before. I did not regret, we had a really nice LT, she is just the sweetest thing. Treat them both well, they are good girls.
[QUOTE=Bbbjlover2010; 1224997]Hello, Lads,
I would like to know where I can find high class or VIP escorts in Bangkok? I would like to call for a girl in my hotel room. All tips and comments will be appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Can you describe a "high class or VIP escort"? You may be looking for something that does not exist.
I assume you are willing to pay western rates for someone highly educated, witty, articulate, cultured, with a high regard for expensive jewelry, fine wine and expensive clothes. They are advertised on the internet, but its all a ruse.
Also, you are limiting your choices to the internet photo and whomever actually shows up at your door. You can at least walk down to the hotel bar, have the benfit of their limited selection, and pick someone you like.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1225436]If we all live by these, then life is good for all-
2. Thou shalt always pay.[/QUOTE]In my opinion the most important. Very difficult, if your like me. Always horny and always broke. No good ever comes from getting into a "Gik" style relationship with these girls whether they are 100% pros or just semi pros.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1225473][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=161409&d=1323494841[/url]
Is that the tip you left the bar beer girl at Simon Complex last night? .[/QUOTE]Nope, my savings from involuntary celibacy.
[QUOTE=Mahal;1225519]We were at the hotel by 3, at which point Tukta called and asked to join us. It was tempting but I had to wake up kind of early and I did not want to wait for her to get to my hotel, also thought she might still be drunk, so I figured I might as well stay with Tan since I had Tukta the day before. I did not regret, we had a really nice LT, she is just the sweetest thing. Treat them both well, they are good girls.[/QUOTE]Two sisters, two individual great experiences.
One wanted tojoin the other at some point: do you think the 3-some would have of similar high standard?
There are positive expamples, but often two girls seldom inter-act together, go imagine two (real) sisters.
Just giving some thoughts, maybe your denial did good to you.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1225605]Nope, my savings from involuntary celibacy.[/QUOTE]Hehe looks like the obligatory gift to the brides parents. That would explain the involuntary celibacy! :-D
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1225428]Anybody who sends money to a whroe? I'd like to go further and say anybody who sends money to a woman, whether whroe or non-whroe.[/QUOTE]LOL. I like that.
There is no shortage of weak men in this world. Unfortunately, there are more and more these days in SEA.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1225428]Anybody who sends money to a whroe? I'd like to go further and say anybody who sends money to a woman, whether whroe or non-whroe. But like Fon Tok said, I'm not trying to tell a grown man what to do with his money.[/QUOTE]It even feels worse when a Judge in a court orders you to do so. Because you usually hate the ***** by then.
7. Thou shalt not contract the Butt Flu.
What the heck is Butt Flu?
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1225425]Yah, all types of guys send these girls money: Old, young, fat, ugly, good looking, rich, poor, you name it!
The common denominator is that they are all STUPID! Anybody who send money to a whroe is stupid and a weak / amateur monger![/QUOTE]Too each their own. Share a little a good friend of mine once told me when you help others it comes back.
I am thinking they are happy than you. Smile its Christmas a tie for giving!
PP
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1225715]LOL. I like that.
There is no shortage of weak men in this world. Unfortunately, there are more and more these days in SEA.[/QUOTE]So true so true and they change the game for all of us.
[QUOTE=Mahal; 1225519]Went to barfine my now regular Som the first night. Som is half Angel half Demon, can't live with or without her, so perfect for the night. We went to Climax and pleased to notice that most discos now open till at least 5AM, hooked up with her 2 girlfriends and went to bed around 8, after breakfast. Very nice session as usual, we slept all morning and parted after another round.
Then I was not up for anything night 2, still went to Insomnia but it was like being at a nice restaurant for dinner right after you just had lunch at the best place in town, you look at the buffet and just don't want to eat.
Night 3 might have been a repeat of night 2, started at Soi Cowboy and picked up Tukta (#103 at Baccara) , but it was her birthday and she had to leave after ST to go to a party. Could not sleep and headed to Shock 39 till 5AM, then a taxi took me to Spicy, which had just closed. Finally I was directed by the guys from Spicy to some smaller disco on the second floor across the street, which is open all night. I did not see the name but it is directly across from Spicy and for sure it is well known by mongers. Surprise Wasana from my last trip walks in and immediately recognizes me. She works in Dubai (has pictures in her phone to prove it) and comes to BKK from time to time. She said she came back from Miss at the Intercontinental hotel, which is now the best disco in town. Can anyone confirm if the place is good? Anyway we left together at daylight and she is just a tiger in bed. She wanted to stay with me night 4 and take me to see a Thai show, nice perspective if I had more time, but I did not go.
Instead I headed to Baccara on Soi Cowboi and hooked up with Tukta again and her (real) sister Tan (#283) , who was busy the previous night. Tukta is 1 year younger (just turned 22) , a bit taller maybe a bit prettier and kind of more wild. Tan is such a happy person, great girl, great smile, great time, great service. I was going to barfine both sisters but I guess Tukta was drunk, she left the bar and headed somewhere, she said to bed. So I took Tan to CM2 and observed the jealous mongers who approached her and got turned away every time. Tukta did call her sister several times (and she asked to talk to me as well every time to apologize for leaving the club). CM2 (at Novotel SiamSquare) was really good, they had an Egyptian themed party and a live band as always, but closed at 2:30AM. We were at the hotel by 3, at which point Tukta called and asked to join us. It was tempting but I had to wake up kind of early and I did not want to wait for her to get to my hotel, also thought she might still be drunk, so I figured I might as well stay with Tan since I had Tukta the day before. I did not regret, we had a really nice LT, she is just the sweetest thing. Treat them both well, they are good girls.[/QUOTE]Can confirm that Mixx in the Intercontinental is a hot spot. Would not say the best (depence on definition) but spend that last 3 nights some time there and a wide range of people are visiting this spot. Seems to me like CM2 3 or 4 years ago; also in Mixx you can already see some area's where the Russians are taking over.
Hi All, a little advise please.
I am in Bangkok towards the end of Dec and have seen that the Raddison Suites on Sukhumvit have some good rates. Anyone know if they are Guest Friendly?
Thanks in advance.
JJJ
[QUOTE=Harold444;1226077]Change what? Others perhaps pay over the top so you can't affor the it anymore? The market is what it is. So many claim 500-100 st and 1500 lt seems the market hasnt changed a bit in 8 years.[/QUOTE]I have lived here for 12 years and with all due respect the market has changed a lot. 8 years ago just about any gal in SC or Nana would go for 1k baht ST and so would the freelancers in Thermae, BG, etc. Now good luck with those prices if you want any quality when it comes to looks. Yes, you can still get a skank for 500 baht in BKK and a few gals will go for 1k (especially in low season) but finding a really stunning girl for 1k can be done but it is difficult.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1225425]Yah, all types of guys send these girls money: Old, young, fat, ugly, good looking, rich, poor, you name it!
The common denominator is that they are all STUPID! Anybody who send money to a whroe is stupid and a weak / amateur monger![/QUOTE]Amjeck, you are so right. And in every case, even atypical ones. Even terrible misanthropes such as myself have done it. Yes I once sent money to a prostitute. All of 500 baht, and to a very particular girl - an extremely old and unmarketable dame I used to do for the extreme back-door fun. I had never paid her more than 500 baht for a short time, and she was uncomplaining and offered great service, really a tip-top provider, as long as one didn't mind the aging. So one day I get a call and she says she's desperate, with some bullshit story, and asks for 500 baht. I think 'well, she really is so unmarketable that maybe she's desperate, and I've never tipped her - and most of all, surely she won't think me a fool, and will understand it is out of pity rather than fondness, simply because she's such an old expired bird'.
She thanked me profusely, and promised a free one next time I was in Pattaya. Well, a month or two later, when I took her again, no free one was on offer. It seemed enough time had passed, and she was as usual too desperate for every dime (such is the plight of the aging prostitute) , she had forgotten to be properly grateful for my kindness! Needless to say I minimize contact with her now - just going for a short time very rarely rather than every visit to the Center of the Universe.
Is anyone else like this? I would never, never send money to a young or good looking girl, because I would feel she would think she 'had her hooks into me', but with an old and pathetic one I thought 'well its like giving money to a beggar, surely she won't get uppity about it'. I was wrong! In each and every case, they think you are a fool.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1226157]I was wrong! In each and every case, they think you are a fool.[/QUOTE]Agree!
When you give gifts (money) out of kindness it has no positive effect on the girls here in LOS. In fact it has a negative effect. It just shows how foolish and weak the monger is. Rewarding the girls for good service is not what I'm talking about here. There's nothing wrong with that. It's simply handing over cash for anything nonsexual. They're hookers and should be paid for sexual services only. Some guys are just so pathetic. Have a read in the AC section about the koreans barfining girls and not fucking them. Complete fucking amateurs!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1226070]So true so true and they change the game for all of us.[/QUOTE]The game hasn't changed. Been this way since the beginning of time and really no surprise here. The haves quietly enjoy theirs while the have nots clutch the crumbs, beat their chests and decry life's unfairness. Either figure it out and get some or move on...
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1226157]. All of 500 baht, and to a very particular girl. An extremely old and unmarketable dame I used to do for the extreme back-door fun. I had never paid her more than 500 baht for a short time, and she was uncomplaining and offered great service, really a tip-top provider, as long as one didn't mind the aging. So one day I get a call. Asks for 500 baht. I think 'well, she really is so unmarketable that maybe she's desperate, and I've never tipped her. And most of all, surely she won't think me a fool, and will understand it is out of pity rather than fondness, simply because she's such an old expired bird'.
She thanked me profusely, and promised a free one next time I was in Pattaya. .[/QUOTE]Opebo, you are funny. You had fun at extremely low cost and enjoyed her and never tipped her and you are pissed because she did not give you a free one? No wonder she did not give you the free one.
[QUOTE=Goatscrott]I have lived here for 12 years and with all due respect the market has changed a lot. 8 years ago just about any gal in SC or Nana would go for 1k baht ST and so would the freelancers in Thermae, BG, etc. Now good luck with those prices.[/QUOTE]Goatscrott, In 8 years the rate has gone up. Ever heard of inflation? Time to get a raise, man.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1226199]Opebo, you are funny. You had fun at extremely low cost and enjoyed her and never tipped her and you are pissed because she did not give you a free one? No wonder she did not give you the free one.
Goatscrott, In 8 years the rate has gone up. Ever heard of inflation? Time to get a raise, man.[/QUOTE]That is exactly the point I am making. Yes, prices have gone up. That was in response to the poster who said the market has not changed. By the way there are very few things on the planet that see a 100-200% increase in cost over a 10 year period. Of course 35% of it is the decreased value of Western currencies.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1226191]The game hasn't changed. Been this way since the beginning of time and really no surprise here. The haves quietly enjoy theirs while the have nots clutch the crumbs, beat their chests and decry life's unfairness. Either figure it out and get some or move on.[/QUOTE]No one has a problem paying for quality, at least I don't, but to pay top dollar for a poor experience, that is a problem.
Paying Mercedes prices for a Ford is just not smart.
Oily and soapy prices have not changed (except for perhaps 1-200 baht with 100 being the tax imposed in 02) and they still offer the best looking (soapies) and performing (oilies) women who are well worth every penny. Was then and is now.
Still amazed that you very average dark Isaan go go girl with manners of field rat can command the money they receive now. For the 3500 baht you pay for ST, BF, and drinks with a go go gal you can have at least a nice looking Isaan or better North girl who is mannerly and will treat you with respect and service you well. Money well spent, but to each his own.
You know those that have money often take care of it and are more prudent spenders than those that have little to nothing. They tend to spend it all as they have nothing to really lose.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1226171]Agree!
When you give gifts (money) out of kindness it has no positive effect on the girls here in LOS. In fact it has a negative effect. It just shows how foolish and weak the monger is. Rewarding the girls for good service is not what I'm talking about here. There's nothing wrong with that. It's simply handing over cash for anything nonsexual. They're hookers and should be paid for sexual services only. Some guys are just so pathetic. Have a read in the AC section about the koreans barfining girls and not fucking them. Complete fucking amateurs![/QUOTE]Agreed!
It never ceases to amaze me when I hear of Farangs paying a high Sin Sot to their new in laws. Sin Sot is part of the culture but now is normally returned to the newlyweds in the form of land or put into a bank account for them to buy a house, land, etc. It is not squandered by the bride's family, yet in so many Farang Thai unions it is.
Have your fun, that is what working girls are for. Please don't take it any farther then that. Yes, there are exceptions, but for the most part you are fighting a losing battle. Would you marry a full time hooker back in your home country? One whose family had no money? A lady with a 6th grade education? Why drop all of your standards here, just because she is young, nice looking, and has sex with you? It is nuts, just nuts!
Gday fellas.
I'm planning my maiden voyage in Feb / Mar and will be in Bangkok and Patts. I was thinking that I might try my hand (s) at some older type back packer ladies in Bangkok. I figured there might not be too many down Patts way so might be lucky and snag one in Bangkok. I'm thinkin (hoping) round the 40-50 age bracket types, bit hippy ish, or anything really.
Any suggestion for hunting areas. Would khao san Road be a good start?
Thanks for the info in advance?
Kirra dude
[QUOTE=Kirra Dude;1226380]Any suggestion for hunting areas. Would khao san Road be a good start?[/QUOTE]There and near any touristy monument, museum or cheap shopping area.
hi bj here.
i recently started reading a book about semantics (roughly meaning the science of words) it is a little heavy going but well worth the effort i think. i don't feel right if i am not reading a book.
i decided to go to nana plaza on friday night, trekked round a few of the downstairs bars for about an hour or so then went to the first floor and dodged in and out of three or four of the larger establishments. eventually i saw a real nice girl dancing in angel witch. i had already made my mind up to bar fine a girl before i went and she fitted the bill (well almost). the difference between a dog and a fox is around five or six beers, for me anyway.
for some reason i went to the short time hotel near to nana, and wished i hadn't afterwards. this girl had dark skin and a slight figure which always gives me the horn. her tits were smallish but very pert i think she had a cute face but i was wearing beer goggles by then. after the shower she went straight for my cock before i was even on the bed. the bj was good without being memorable but she seemed keen to get on with proceedings (had probably arranged to meet her boyfriend / husband quite soon). to be honest the pace she set was a blessing because i could feel the beer starting to have an adverse effect on the captain. i couldn't even be bothered to shag her in more than one position, which i normally do. she screamed accordingly when she got the tartan tor**** but that's all part of the stage act as we all well know. i made it over the finish line just in time.
she sprinted into the shower and was changed just as quickly. i really must stop using those shit- hole short time places, i feel like i need to disinfect myself when i leave. after i paid her and waved goodbye i chuckled as i thought about her boyfriend / husband stirring my cold porridge very soon. definitely not one for the diary but wtf a shag is still a shag in my opinion and anyway it makes the better experiences more rewarding. i would also like to add that this is not a negative cast on angel which as it is one of the best gogo's in nana, the bad time would have probably been as much to do with her as me.
ciao, bj
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1226233]Oily and soapy. Still offer the best looking (soapies) and performing (oilies) women who are well worth every penny. Was then and is now.
Still amazed that you very average dark Isaan go go girl with manners of field rat can command the money they receive now. For the 3500 baht you pay for ST, BF, and drinks with a go go gal you can have at least a nice looking Isaan or better North girl who is mannerly and will treat you with respect and service you well. Money well spent, but to each his own.[/QUOTE]I agree with a lot of what you've said, Groatscout, but for one thing. I've never, or anyway hardly ever, gotten really great service in a Soapy. There the service is usually rather minimal and 'by the numbers'. After all the girls service many customers per day and are very tired of it. For sure the girls there are way more attractive than at go-gos, at least to me, but the service is usually poor.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1226446]I agree with a lot of what you've said, Groatscout, but for one thing. I've never, or anyway hardly ever, gotten really great service in a Soapy. There the service is usually rather minimal and 'by the numbers'. After all the girls service many customers per day and are very tired of it. For sure the girls there are way more attractive than at go-gos, at least to me, but the service is usually poor.[/QUOTE]Opebo, I would concur that the service at a soapy pales in comparison to an oily. Normally a bit mechanical. Methinks most guys go there for looks and occasionally looks take precedence with me, but rarely. Oilies are about my tops!
[QUOTE=Opebo;1226446]I agree with a lot of what you've said, Groatscout, but for one thing. I've never, or anyway hardly ever, gotten really great service in a Soapy. There the service is usually rather minimal and 'by the numbers'. After all the girls service many customers per day and are very tired of it. For sure the girls there are way more attractive than at go-gos, at least to me, but the service is usually poor.[/QUOTE]I agree with you O, although I have done a soapy all of two times. Those two times were enough to realize that the service sux and it should only be done by first timers for the novelty. I took my cousin to one his first time in Thailand back in June. I guaranteed he would love it. Well he came out of there cursing me out because of the poor service and I was the one who had footed the bill!
I think the soapy is something to try once.
The actual soapy part of it is a big waste to me. They try and prolong it so not much time left for suck and fuck. The girls don't want to deviate from their routine. Too over priced and mechanical for me.
I've been to Bangkok twice and each time visited nataree for a soapy. I thought both were good experiences and quite fun! Planning another trip in January and will again get a soapy and of course an oily or two!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1226236]Agreed!
It never ceases to amaze me when I hear of Farangs paying a high Sin Sot to their new in laws. Sin Sot is part of the culture but now is normally returned to the newlyweds in the form of land or put into a bank account for them to buy a house, land, etc. It is not squandered by the bride's family, yet in so many Farang Thai unions it is.
Have your fun, that is what working girls are for. Please don't take it any farther then that. Yes, there are exceptions, but for the most part you are fighting a losing battle. Would you marry a full time hooker back in your home country? One whose family had no money? A lady with a 6th grade education? Why drop all of your standards here, just because she is young, nice looking, and has sex with you? It is nuts, just nuts![/QUOTE]This cannot be said enough.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill;1226752]This cannot be said enough.[/QUOTE]Amen OTH! Working girls are for fun. Never lose sight of that!
[QUOTE=MisterO;1226740]I've been to Bangkok twice and each time visited nataree for a soapy. I thought both were good experiences and quite fun! Planning another trip in January and will again get a soapy and of course an oily or two![/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed it. On occasion, a few taxi drives have tried to bring me to Nataree after I specifically told them to take someplace else. Each time I respectfully declined.
[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1; 1221274]Gents,
I finally come back to Bangkok after one year absent. I stay at the Maxim's Inn at soi7/1
It is a pleasant surprise.
I have a deluxe room with braekfast at 1190baht a night and the hotel is very quietly
Situated 100m. From the Sukhumvit road.
Skip.
I agree. Maxim's is value for money, being close to the action at nana, Soi Cowboy and now Dr BJ. Rooms are clean and quiet and the staff is friendly. My only complain is that there is little choice for breakfast.
Dooley
Gents,
The new renovations Are done at Maxim's Inn. I had a new decoration room in the back
And Big enough for 2 persons. I only think If the bathroom can be bigger that would make
A perfect deal at 1190 baht a night. I usually pay 1500 baht a night for similar room at
Majestic suite hotel, So, I Was Not really complain at the small breakfast.
The noisy room 603 facing Sukhumvit road of the MS. Pushed me to look for
Other hotel in the lower soi. It is Time for Change.
I finally had a very quiet, new room and Save some baht for Heineken.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1226885]Its all about the chemistry between girl and boy not the venue where you find them.
Having said that girls from agogos are just not a good value, one plus is that you can get to know them better. Hard to chat with someone in a bowl of fish. LOL.[/QUOTE]Harold, many of us that live here have no desire to get to know the girl better. Most gals in GoGos have a 6th grade education and very little life experience apart from the village and their bar. Now, if she was well educated, worldly, had an interesting job, etc, perhaps she would be interesting to talk to, but I have found very few GoGo girls who fit that bill.
Also many of us have girlfriends or wives and our emotional energy goes there.
I want to walk into a place, choose a great looking girl, head upstairs, have her service me like I am the lust of her life, and I don't want to waste time getting to know her or "whroemancing" her in an attempt to create chemistry. After that I want to put on my clothes and leave. Just like riding a roller coaster.
I have said it many times, lots of guys come to Thailand to date whroes as opposed to just coming to fcuk them. But to each his own. Remember, these girls are pros. This is their job.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1227005]Harold, many of us that live here have no desire to get to know the girl better. Most gals in GoGos have a 6th grade education and very little life experience apart from the village and their bar. Now, if she was well educated, worldly, had an interesting job, etc, perhaps she would be interesting to talk to, but I have found very few GoGo girls who fit that bill.
Also many of us have girlfriends or wives and our emotional energy goes there.
I want to walk into a place, choose a great looking girl, head upstairs, have her service me like I am the lust of her life, and I don't want to waste time getting to know her or "whroemancing" her in an attempt to create chemistry. After that I want to put on my clothes and leave. Just like riding a roller coaster.
I have said it many times, lots of guys come to Thailand to date whroes as opposed to just coming to fcuk them. But to each his own. Remember, these girls are pros. This is their job.[/QUOTE]Sex with chemistry is far better than sex without.
Sex with chemistry can remain exciting for a longer period of time, than sex without.
First time sex with a new girl does not need chemistry. As its pure excitement of a new pussy. But after two or three times if no chemistry its boring.
But first time sex with a new girl can go very wrong if she is a starfish or useless in bed . The downside of a wasted ejeculation.
So there are lots of different scenario's but sex with chemistry is far better. Chemistry is purely that. Its two people who get hot and wet and horny just by being together. It does not need lots of getting to know you extended conversations. I have a little massage girl who I have now fucked over 30 times. Thats quite a record for me in being able to fuck the same pussy again and again without getting bored of it. But we have chemistry, not extended conversations, just pure sexual chemistry. She turns me on and I turn her on and wow. Its wet and wild sex when we meet. She sleeps overnight sometimes. But thats it, no dinners or disco or shopping etc. Purely sexual. She can have the long conversations with her boyfriend, but for "wow factor" sex she has me.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1227029]Sex with chemistry is far better than sex without.
Sex with chemistry can remain exciting for a longer period of time, than sex without.
First time sex with a new girl does not need chemistry. As its pure excitement of a new pussy. But after two or three times if no chemistry its boring.
But first time sex with a new girl can go very wrong if she is a starfish or useless in bed. The downside of a wasted ejeculation.
So there are lots of different scenario's but sex with chemistry is far better. Chemistry is purely that. Its two people who get hot and wet and horny just by being together. It does not need lots of getting to know you extended conversations. I have a little massage girl who I have now fucked over 30 times. Thats quite a record for me in being able to fuck the same pussy again and again without getting bored of it. But we have chemistry, not extended conversations, just pure sexual chemistry. She turns me on and I turn her on and wow. Its wet and wild sex when we meet. She sleeps overnight sometimes. But thats it, no dinners or disco or shopping etc. Purely sexual. She can have the long conversations with her boyfriend, but for "wow factor" sex she has me.[/QUOTE]Pro that is impressive. No matter how good a gal is or what the chemistry is I rarely want to sleep with a gal more then twice.
I expect a professional to create that chemistry or at least act like there is some chemistry. As I said, that is her job as a provider. Since I have made the choice, obviously there is attraction on my part and there will be some chemistry. The rest is up to her.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1227068]I expect a professional to create that chemistry or at least act like there is some chemistry. As I said, that is her job as a provider. Since I have made the choice, obviously there is attraction on my part and there will be some chemistry. The rest is up to her.[/QUOTE]There is little doubt that a fuck can be fantastic, ordinary, or woeful. The chances of getting wild out of this world sex with girls on the first (or even 2nd) meeting, is not that great. I mean she is just doing it for the money the first time, unless you happened to hit the right day of the month. Many girls actually have to like the guy and the way he does it before they are really going to get into it wildly. A girl will let herself go more when she has a trust in the guy's behaviour.
My favourite bar girl has turned into a super horny, wild and fantastic fuck, but she wasn't more than good ordinary (OK still above average) on the first session, despite an incredibly hot body (the main reason she was chosen). Once the chemistry gets going and your personality and skills actually start appealing to the girl, then she can wish to absolutely devour you sexually, if she is a horny type, and that is a bit different to an ordinary fuck.
It seems to be worthwhile to collect a selection of hot bodied reliably great fucks. Once you have collected a few, it does not need to be boring. I still take a new girl occasionally, but don't see the use in changing continuously. I don't have the psychological need to try every pussy. The idea that the next girl will be always better than the last one is a strange illusion.
I tried a new Soapy girl the other day. High priced and very sweet looking. A big disappointment and waste of time and money. Later took my favourite bar-girl and another from same bar (that also was not new to me) together. Had an incredible time, allowing me to forget the wasted session with the Soapy girl.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1227068]No matter how good a gal is or what the chemistry is I rarely want to sleep with a gal more then twice.
I expect a professional to create that chemistry or at least act like there is some chemistry. As I said, that is her job as a provider. Since I have made the choice, obviously there is attraction on my part and there will be some chemistry. The rest is up to her.[/QUOTE]I'm the same fucking way Goat except once usually does it for me. Unless the fuck thing drifts over into the friend zone and she comes by sometimes and I give her money, but she still doesn't mind those times when I don't. All the girls who have seen me before know I'm a helicopter anyway so it's really not a worry. But being the kid in the candy store always takes over my brain more than an outstanding fuck could take over my body.
[QUOTE=Syzygies]My favourite bar girl has turned into a super horny, wild and fantastic fuck, but she wasn't more than good ordinary (OK still above average) on the first session, despite an incredibly hot body (the main reason she was chosen).[/QUOTE]So why did you take her the second time if she was just ok and a little above average?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1226885]Hard to chat with someone in a bowl of fish. LOL.[/QUOTE]Every soapy I know will call a girl out of tank to come sit down and talk to you before you make your decision. Many Thai guys in fact won't even choose a girl from a soapy without talking to her first.
right now there are hundreds of thais protesting in front of the usa embassy in bangkok (see photos). they are holding signs showing the us ambassador decapitated, chanting "usa go home" and more. and we all know how thais protest-they get violent in a fast and furious way. essentially thais are angry that the usa along with the un and 40 some other countries have condemned the arrest of persons for expressing free speech. this mainly regards the thai king. you cannot so much as say you don't like his shoes or you will be arrested or worse. in the last two weeks two things have happened. they convicted an american named joe gordon of what is called lese majeste (speaking badly about the king). joe gordon is a american citizen (thai american) from colorado who posted excerpts on his website in the usa about the thai royalty. that book is banned in thailand. when he came to thailand to see his family he was arrested and detained.
a week later they sentenced a 60 year old thai man they call "uncle sms" to 20 years in prison because they said he sent negative sms's about the king to the government. too bad this old man was not allowed to even see the evidence against him and it is universally known among his family and neighbors this man can hardly see and has never even sent an sms before.
guys remember one thing-this is a 3rd world country with a semi-authoritarian government. the internet is heavily monitored, freedom of speech is suppressed and people can be jailed without even the evidence being shown to you. do not get in trouble here. that can be hard to do when you are mongering as the nature of mongering can lead to trouble. just come to thailand, have fun and leave. don't discuss or do anything else other than that (not just about the king but anything that is outside the realm of mongering). believe me you will be better off if you heed this advice.
showdown
[quote=showdown; 1227369]right now there are hundreds of thais protesting in front of the usa embassy in bangkok (see photos). they are holding signs showing the us ambassador decapitated, chanting "usa go home" and more. and we all know how thais protest-they get violent in a fast and furious way. essentially thais are angry that the usa along with the un and 40 some other countries have condemned the arrest of persons for expressing free speech. this mainly regards the thai king. you cannot so much as say you don't like his shoes or you will be arrested or worse. in the last two weeks two things have happened. they convicted an american named joe gordon of what is called lese majeste (speaking badly about the king). joe gordon is a american citizen (thai american) from colorado who posted excerpts on his website in the usa about the thai royalty. that book is banned in thailand. when he came to thailand to see his family he was arrested and detained.
a week later they sentenced a 60 year old thai man they call "uncle sms" to 20 years in prison because they said he sent negative sms's about the king to the government. too bad this old man was not allowed to even see the evidence against him and it is universally known among his family and neighbors this man can hardly see and has never even sent an sms before.
guys remember one thing-this is a 3rd world country with a semi-authoritarian government. the internet is heavily monitored, freedom of speech is suppressed and people can be jailed without even the evidence being shown to you. do not get in trouble here. that can be hard to do when you are mongering as the nature of mongering can lead to trouble. just come to thailand, have fun and leave. don't discuss or do anything else other than that (not just about the king but anything that is outside the realm of mongering). believe me you will be better off if you heed this advice.
showdown[/quote]i would not worry, its just the yellow shirt wnakers again.
best thing thailand could do is round up all these scumbag yellow shirts and nuke the lot of them.
a few weeks ago these same people were demanding the world felt sorry for them and their wet feet in the floods. now the fcukers tell the world to get lost as they are not thai.
scum scum scum is all the yellow shirts are, they proved that when the shut the airport and stuck the middle finger up at foreigners, and they continue to do so, unless of course they want something.
do not discuss the royal family, yes, thats correct.
best thing for foreigners to do is if anyones asks about the royal family is just say "sorry, i am not thai, i do not discuss anything about them". no need to say anything else, no need to express any feeling, just say you cannot say anything.
[quote=showdown;1227369](snip)guys remember one thing-this is a 3rd world country with a semi-authoritarian government. the internet is heavily monitored, freedom of speech is suppressed and people can be jailed without even the evidence being shown to you. do not get in trouble here. that can be hard to do when you are mongering as the nature of mongering can lead to trouble. just come to thailand, have fun and leave. don't discuss or do anything else other than that (not just about the king but anything that is outside the realm of mongering). believe me you will be better off if you heed this advice. showdown[/quote]scared out of your teva flip flops, are ya?
the only times i've noticed common sense in short supply sometimes is at places like walking street & bangla road.
in reality, thailand is one of the more relaxed places on the planet to travel around and hang out in. just don't get drunk while out "hobbying," and then act like the village idiot.
in regard to your story about a few "yellow shirts" whining in front of the us embassy, so what? that's their right in a democratic country, even a "thai style" one.
when push really comes to shove in thailand, though, as it did in may 2010, you are best to seek cover (and a couple of bullet proof vests). better yet, just fly home!
I will NEVER diss the king because he makes this whole thread possible. So he is really cool in my book. I'm always proud to stand to honor him before a movie.
But I'm about to diss Air Asia. Before, I swore by Air Asia. But now I am fed up. Their website is shit. I tried to sign up for frequent flyer but it would/will not process it. But the main thing is that I have been trying everyday for the last 3 days to buy tickets for me, my mom, and my aunt to go to Chiang Mai. Roundtrip tickets for 3 people cost 10,578 baht. But every time I try to purchase the tickets it says my Visa credit card is declined. This is the same card I have saved in my profile on their website. I have thousands of dollars available on my card. I called the bank that issued it and they said there is not even a record of a charge attempt. I have not been able to get through to Air Asia at the Thailand, England, Malaysia, or Australia numbers. I was finally able to get through on the Indonesia number and they were no help at all. After talking to the guy for 20 minutes and trying to put the card through myself in different currencies (BTW the tickets are $20 more if USD is selected) on his supervisor's advice, nothing: declined, declined, declined. Although it gave me a reservation number that would be good for 4 hours he said he can not take payment over the phone because it is a promo fare. It has to be done on the website. Ain't that a b*t&h?
I was so frustrated that I just hung up the skype. I did a search on google for flights and it gave me Nok Air as one carrier. So I went to their website and was able to purchase 3 tickets at the same time as the Air Asia flight in less than 5 minutes for 7,740 baht, that is $90 less than Air Asia. Let's see how it goes with this carrier.
*Come to think of it when my cousin's girlfriend's brother in Malaysia tried to put my cousin's KUL BKK ticket on his Visa, the Air Asia site did the same thing. And that was in June. I ended up having to put my cousin's ticket on my MasterCard.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1227592]But every time I try to purchase the tickets it says my Visa credit card is declined. This is the same card I have saved in my profile on their website. I have thousands of dollars available on my card. I called the bank that issued it and they said there is not even a record of a charge attempt.[/QUOTE]I've had the same experience. I called my USA card issuer several times. The last time, I had a very helpful agent who groaned and said that there is a problem with the AirAsia computer connecting to the USA system at whatever time of day that the account back-ups (whatever) take place in the USA. Many computer systems work around this, but evidently AirAsia's computers cannot or will not do it. The helpful agent also said that all the agents who have worked for Visa for any time are aware of the problem.
I don't remember the time of day when this problem occurs, but I think it was about 04h00 Eastern time in the USA, or 16h00 in BKK. If you book in the early morning from Asia, things seem better. Also, I have my AmEx on file now, and the problems seem fewer with AmEx.
But AirAsia's customer services all suck, and I avoid flying with that carrier when I have a choice.
TTG
[QUOTE=Harold444;1227499]If you buy drinks and all that.[/QUOTE]Just for the record, there is no need at all to buy drinks when you sit down in front of the tank, or even ask to talk to a girl. Sure, they push drinks, but their real interest is in getting you to take a girl. If the khon chia is helpful, give him B100 tip on the way out after your massage. He'll appreciate that a lot more than seeing you buy a drink.
My Visa card has never worked on AirAsia's website but Amex works no problem. Personally, I'm not an AirAsia fan. For quick flights within Thailand I prefer Nok Air. I've found their overall fares cheaper and Don Muang, when it's dry, is hassle free.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1227592]I will NEVER diss the king because he makes this whole thread possible. So he is really cool in my book. I'm always proud to stand to honor him before a movie.
But I'm about to diss Air Asia. Before, I swore by Air Asia. But now I am fed up. Their website is shit. I tried to sign up for frequent flyer but it would / will not process it. But the main thing is that I have been trying everyday for the last 3 days to buy tickets for me, my mom, and my aunt to go to Chiang Mai. Roundtrip tickets for 3 people cost 10, 578 baht. But every time I try to purchase the tickets it says my Visa credit card is declined. This is the same card I have saved in my profile on their website. I have thousands of dollars available on my card. I called the bank that issued it and they said there is not even a record of a charge attempt. I have not been able to get through to Air Asia at the Thailand, England, Malaysia, or Australia numbers. I was finally able to get through on the Indonesia number and they were no help at all. After talking to the guy for 20 minutes and trying to put the card through myself in different currencies (BTW the tickets are $20 more if USD is selected) on his supervisor's advice, nothing: declined, declined, declined. Although it gave me a reservation number that would be good for 4 hours he said he can not take payment over the phone because it is a promo fare. It has to be done on the website. Ain't that a be*t&h?
I was so frustrated that I just hung up the skype. I did a search on google for flights and it gave me Nok Air as one carrier. So I went to their website and was able to purchase 3 tickets at the same time as the Air Asia flight in less than 5 minutes for 7, 740 baht, that is $90 less than Air Asia. Let's see how it goes with this carrier.
*Come to think of it when my cousin's girlfriend's brother in Malaysia tried to put my cousin's KUL BKK ticket on his Visa, the Air Asia site did the same thing. And that was in June. I ended up having to put my cousin's ticket on my MasterCard.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ivanba;1227642]My Visa card has never worked on AirAsia's website but Amex works no problem. Personally, I'm not an AirAsia fan. For quick flights within Thailand I prefer Nok Air. I've found their overall fares cheaper and Don Muang, when it's dry, is hassle free.[/QUOTE]Maybe Nok is coming up in the world (or going down depending on how you look at it) , because my flight is from Suvarnabhumi.
Depart
DD8374.
Nok Eco Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi) 18:35 Chiang Mai 19:45
Glad to hear you have good experiences with them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1227592]But I'm about to diss Air Asia.[/QUOTE]I've flown about 40 legs on Airasia and also booked tickets for my wing man with no problem whatsoever. Only once there was one hour delay, evening flight, from Macau to BKK.
I use Greek credit cards and never had any problems.
USA has to default the way Greece does in order for Airasia to accept your cards LOL LOL
Hey guys.
What is the tap water quality like in Bangkok at the moment? I heard off another site that it was heavily polluted due to the floods and that drinking it was not recommended.
I'm thinking of heading out there for a couple of days but have no wish to bathe in a diluted mixture of sewerage.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1227712]Hey guys.
What is the tap water quality like in Bangkok at the moment? I heard off another site that it was heavily polluted due to the floods and that drinking it was not recommended.
I'm thinking of heading out there for a couple of days but have no wish to bathe in a diluted mixture of sewerage.[/QUOTE]Ummm. I've never drank tap water in Thailand. Otherwise seems normal in my hotel room.
[quote=showdown; 1227369]right now there are hundreds of thais protesting in front of the usa embassy in bangkok.
guys remember one thing-[b]this is a 3rd world country with a semi-authoritarian government. the internet is heavily monitored, freedom of speech is suppressed and people can be jailed without even the evidence being shown to you. [/b][/quote]thank god for that. that is why i love the place and why i live here. the us government should mind its own business and also know who their friends are.
guys remember one thing. democracy is a deception, and you are not freer under democracy.
lastly, please never mention him on this forum again, and i would ask that no one do so. honestly i think the administration should delete any and all posts which do so, including this one.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1227740]Thank god for that. That is why I love the place and why I live here. The US government should mind its own business and also know who their friends are.
Guys remember one thing. Democracy is a deception, and you are not freer under democracy.
Lastly, please never mention him on this forum again, and I would ask that no one do so. Honestly I think the administration should delete any and all posts which do so, including this one.[/QUOTE]I don't really think it's a matter of minding their business just more of an honesty thing. I have friends and I do stick up for them but if they are in the wrong I tell them so, politely. To look at it another way, could you imagine the backlash if a Thai citizen was arrested while visiting the US for anti-US comments they made while in Thailand? Thais would go nuts. The US response was restrained and cordial.
Anyway, back to more important topics. Anyone came across any young, hot. 3 hole talent lately?
[QUOTE=Opebo;1227740]Thank god for that. That is why I love the place and why I live here.[/QUOTE]Well, I just gave this some thought and decided I like it because I like the people, because the chicks are hot, the countryside is nice, the food is good, the weather is warm, and nothing costs too much. And if the Thais, who if nothing else have a pretty good innate sense of fairness, protest against American arrogance, that's just a nice bonus.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1227726]Ummm. I've never drank tap water in Thailand. Otherwise seems normal in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify my original post I used the word 'bathe' not drink. Other forums have reported reticulated water being of a polluted nature. It's good to know things are relatively back to normal.
In Pattaya at the moment so I might indulge in a spot of disaster tourism while 'pumping' some cash into the economy.
Long live the king!
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1227740]Thank god for that. That is why I love the place and why I live here. The US government should mind its own business and also know who their friends are.
Guys remember one thing. Democracy is a deception, and you are not freer under democracy.
Lastly, please never mention him on this forum again, and I would ask that no one do so. Honestly I think the administration should delete any and all posts which do so, including this one.[/QUOTE]I have friends that I will stick up for but if my friends are in the wrong I will tell them so, respectfully. The US was cordial in their disapproval. To put it another way, could you imagine the backlash from the Thais if a Thai was visiting the US and was arrested for anti-US comments that they made while in Thailand? They would be irate. And as far as American arrogance, the entire United Nations as well as over 50 individual countries (most of the board member's here home countries included) denounced this ruling. The only reason they protest at the US embassy is because they know it will get more attention, not because the US was somehow egregious when handling the issue. Any politician knows that the easiest way to deflect suspicion on your own administration is to point the finger at a foreign country. The issue isn't so much that this case itself is so important, it's the precedent that it sets for the future.
Anyway, back to more important topics. Anyone find any young, hot. 3 holers lately?
Anybody with recent experience at "Bar Bar" in Patpong 2?
Is it worth to include into an evening programme?
Thanks.
FV
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1227782]The only reason they protest at the US embassy is because they know it will get more attention . .[/QUOTE]That's a fair point. Time to get back to sex!
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1227782].could you imagine the backlash from the Thais if a Thai was visiting the US and was arrested for anti-US comments that they made while in Thailand? They would be irate.[/quote]No, I don't think they would. They would blame the person for opening their fat mouth. One thing you learn in Asia. Never say what you really think (I mean it is so obvious any fool should know it, but apparently Westerners don't!).
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1227782]Anyway, back to more important topics. Anyone find any young, hot. 3 holers lately?[/QUOTE]No, the majority of the voters oppose young hot 3-holers for you and me. Viva la Democracie. Ha ha.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1227712]Hey guys.
What is the tap water quality like in Bangkok at the moment? I heard off another site that it was heavily polluted due to the floods and that drinking it was not recommended.
I'm thinking of heading out there for a couple of days but have no wish to bathe in a diluted mixture of sewerage.[/QUOTE]I was there last week. Evertyhing is fine. Plenty of food, water, clean tap water, and girls!
Not a good idea to drink the tap water, flood runoff notwithstanding. The water mains have always been 'leaky' and in times of low water pressure, they are known to induct whatever the locals have been discarding in the ground and down the local city drains (which if you've been here awhile is just about everything they want to throw away).
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1227870]No, I don't think they would. They would blame the person for opening their fat mouth.[/QUOTE]That is absolutely true, they would be appalled, however they would also be angry at the US for pointing out the persons "mistake".
Gents,
The real point is the man was looking for trouble in the first place.
He was a Thai's Born nationality and Must Known the law in heart.
I agree that the US. Responses very cordial and Diplomatic ways.
I remember an Australian citizen was prosecuted the same thing.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1227265]So why did you take her the second time if she was just ok and a little above average?[/QUOTE]She was not just a little above average, but there was still room for improvement, and that occurred once she decided she was real comfortable with me. Her body was super hot anyway, which would have got her over the line to be worth a 2nd try. So lets get it straight. I enjoyed the first session well enough. However subsequent sessions were even better when she really relaxed and got into it.
i just left yesterday, no problems with food, transport, girls, but if you run a tub of water it's kind of a brownish [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] color. i kept flushing the toilet and it still looked like someone just took a leak in it, this was at a very nice hotel on sukhumvit by soi 23.
[quote=luvpuss;1227896]i was there last week. evertyhing is fine. plenty of food, water, clean tap water, and girls![/quote]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1227646]Maybe Nok is coming up in the world (or going down depending on how you look at it) , because my flight is from Suvarnabhumi.
Depart
DD8374.
Nok Eco Bangkok (Suvarnabhumi) 18:35 Chiang Mai 19:45.
Glad to hear you have good experiences with them.[/QUOTE]I suspect Nok flying out of Suvarnabhumi is only temporarily unfortunatly,
And due to the flooding.
Although it's been a few years since last I used Nok Air (due to them.
Only flying out of Don Muang normally) , my experience has also always.
Been good. Much preferred to Air Asia for sure.
BTW, when are you going to be in Chiang Mai? I'm living in Chiang Mai,
But going away on a two week trip in a few days. If you're here after.
January 6 and want to meet up for dinner an evening, let me know.
Can bring your aunt too, if she's hot.
Well finally I will report on my first two weeks in Bangkok. First of all for all you obsessive ones, there is absolutely no evidence of any flood here. I stay close to the Mo Chit BTS station which is not in the downtown area. Well I took the advice of others and went to Soi Cowwboy to Baccara. I decided to stand at the bar to get a good look at the stage. No more than a few minutes went by until I was starring at a little cute with the biggest tits and most petite body I had seen in a long time. Nung #153? She kept smiling at me and I could not resist. After a couple of drinks, then the bar fine, and we were off. Damage 2500ST and 5000 LT. I must say it was the most erotic 48 hours of my mongering career. This little cutee did not stop. The best position was her on top grinding away. Great BBBJ and doggie as well. For all wondering, yes the LT was 48 hours of sure bliss. Well honestly my mongering exploits came to a halt for a week and 13000Baht later we were acting like a newly married couple. Talking about moving in together and everything. Then my 6th sense kicked in and I had to bail because at the end of the day these are just bar girls. Now to the freebies and freelance scene. Date in Asia is a great resource for freebies here in BKK. I have met a few nice girls so far and will keep you updated on my progress. By far the best freelance bars I have seen are Q Bar and Climax in the Ambassador hotel. In Climax I was approached about every 10 minutes by hot little Thail girls with one thing on their mind. I managed to pull 4 girls in 3 nights LOL. Average damage was 2500 LT. With a few days of work needed my next mongering will continue Christmas EVE. By far Barraca is the best Go go bar in BKK. I check Suzie Wong and one of the Rainbows but they don't hold a candle to Barraca. Many girls to choose from and they change up every 15 minutes or so on stage so you can see what's left after the constant bar fines going on. Here is the cutee from there I pulled for almost a week Nung number 153 I think. We had dinner together a few times.
Just hit up Dr BJ. S for a test run.
Interesting layout which kind of dissuades one from drinking there but that's ok with me.
Choose 'Ai' one of the consultants (1000 baht) and got led up stairs. Slightly disconcerting to see the rest of the staff still sleeping on the 1st floor but at least they save in housing costs.
Ai was great performer not young but not old but still had a slightly MILFY, wonderful foreplay, knew her way around a dick. However technique was great but not spectacular but she did make up for it with a great rimming technique. She took CIM like a champ so no complaints in that department. I'd put her lack of technique down to the fact that this establishment has only been open a short while. It takes time for a lady to truly know how to give good head. There is a lady at Bliss Lounge in Pattaya I tried last year but had a less than effective style but I tried her last week and she has it down pat, just enough saliva, tongue flicking and jerking off in the the right proportions to make me tip her 200 baht. On that basis I'd give it time and hopefully the ladies will stay long enough to get some decent skills.
Only one complaint about Dr BJ's is the size of the rooms. They are only able to fit two people at a time which makes those customers who want to partake in a double header have to go else where.
PS Smokers on Sukhimvit around the Asok BTS area watch out. Police are having security guards follow tourists around and wait for them to drop cigarettes butts and then shake them down. Atleast they are not enforcing the laws on prostitution.
Any recommendations for the best soapie in BKK, and why?
Thanks. And thanks for the great photos recently as well.
Happy holidays.
-B
[QUOTE=Ixgzca; 1227782]I have friends that I will stick up for but if my friends are in the wrong I will tell them so, respectfully. The US was cordial in their disapproval. To put it another way, could you imagine the backlash from the Thais if a Thai was visiting the US and was arrested for anti-US comments that they made while in Thailand? They would be irate. And as far as American arrogance, the entire United Nations as well as over 50 individual countries (most of the board member's here home countries included) denounced this ruling. The only reason they protest at the US embassy is because they know it will get more attention, not because the US was somehow egregious when handling the issue. Any politician knows that the easiest way to deflect suspicion on your own administration is to point the finger at a foreign country. The issue isn't so much that this case itself is so important, it's the precedent that it sets for the future.
Anyway, back to more important topics. Anyone find any young, hot. 3 holers lately?[/QUOTE]Please guys! Let's use this forum for its true purpose. It was created for reporting our mongering habits and experiences here in BKK. Truly and honestly I am so tired of hearing about the flood, politics, brown water, over pricing, why an airline is flying out of a different airport. Get off your asses and write a report! Please I beg you! If anyone is at a loss for words PM me and we can meet up for drinks and use the evening to inspire a new report. I still have not explored the massage scene yet. I also wanted to mention that the CDC has a wealth of freelance talent. OMG the legs and asses on these cutees were unbelievable!
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1228467]Please guys! Let's use this forum for its true purpose. It was created for reporting our mongering habits and experiences here in BKK. Truly and honestly I am so tired of hearing about the flood, politics, brown water, over pricing, why an airline is flying out of a different airport.[/QUOTE]I believe the "General Thread" was intended for non-mongering topics, but I could be wrong, whether they relate to Bangkok or not. I would also prefer to see the Bangkok Thread used mainly for mongering in Bangkok topics, although I guess it could easily to stray to mongering topics relevant to whole of Thailand if there is no better thread for them. It would have been easier if there was a thread explicitly called "Non-mongering Topics" thread.
Bonzo1 would be best to ask his question in the Bangkok Massage thread even though there aren't many proper massages at most Soapies. Confusing, isn't it? Seems that their ought to be a "Soapies" thread too. The overall thread split has its weaknesses, specially in the selection of threads tied to the top seeming to be arbitary. Having a separate thread for Tulip was always a silly idea and now there are other places that are far more popular that do not have their own thread.
I was "mystified" looking at Mooris7's pic with the two "footballs". Its hard to tell if there lies a real girl under all that silicone. Each to their own style, and thankfully we don't all like the same thing. I like really natural looking girls. I found a few nice natural cuties in SW, while Bacarra was filled with many fakes or at least weird hairdos. Bacarra does has a few girls with very pretty looks, but not that many.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1228467]Please guys! Let's use this forum for its true purpose. It was created for reporting our mongering habits and experiences here in BKK. Truly and honestly I am so tired of hearing about the flood, politics, brown water, over pricing, why an airline is flying out of a different airport. Get off your asses and write a report! Please I beg you! If anyone is at a loss for words PM me and we can meet up for drinks and use the evening to inspire a new report. I still have not explored the massage scene yet. I also wanted to mention that the CDC has a wealth of freelance talent. OMG the legs and asses on these cutees were unbelievable![/QUOTE]OK, I'll take the bait.
Last night had a lot of fun. Started with beers at the Madrid Bar in Patpong with a visiting buddy and my LB friend. Stopped at my place for a few shots of Patron. Then, on to a great meal at an Isaan fish restaurant near the corner of Narathiawat Road and Soi 24.
After dinner, it was back to Patpong for drinks at Pussy Collection a-Go-Go. My buddy bar fined a cute dancer there (he said she was a lot of fun). Finished up the evening with a few beers at Cleo Beer Bar on Patpong 2.
Conclusion: Duvel Belgium Ale at Madrid for 160 baht a bottle; energetic, pretty dancers at Pussy Collection (500 baht BF) ; easy going scene in Patpong once you learn to ignore the touts.
ok.
just got back from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and can recommend jin. awesome technique with a very sloppy bj, a lot of tongue work and no teeth in the 20 minutes she labored over my elephantine tool with no complaints. took a cim and didn't remove her mouth until i was done. tipped her 200 baht for the effort as a true professional.
she carries my highest recommendation.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1228590]easy going scene in Patpong once you learn to ignore the touts.[/QUOTE]Patpong has touts? I never noticed.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1228573]I believe the "General Thread" was intended for non-mongering topics, but I could be wrong, whether they relate to Bangkok or not. I would also prefer to see the Bangkok Thread used mainly for mongering in Bangkok topics, although I guess it could easily to stray to mongering topics relevant to whole of Thailand if there is no better thread for them. It would have been easier if there was a thread explicitly called "Non-mongering Topics" thread.
Bonzo1 would be best to ask his question in the Bangkok Massage thread even though there aren't many proper massages at most Soapies. Confusing, isn't it? Seems that their ought to be a "Soapies" thread too. The overall thread split has its weaknesses, specially in the selection of threads tied to the top seeming to be arbitary. Having a separate thread for Tulip was always a silly idea and now there are other places that are far more popular that do not have their own thread.
I was "mystified" looking at Mooris7's pic with the two "footballs". Its hard to tell if there lies a real girl under all that silicone. Each to their own style, and thankfully we don't all like the same thing. I like really natural looking girls. I found a few nice natural cuties in SW, while Bacarra was filled with many fakes or at least weird hairdos. Bacarra does has a few girls with very pretty looks, but not that many.[/QUOTE]If the BKK thread was intended for non mongering topics could you please tell me where to post the mongering topics that don't relate to the obvious titles like photo gallery or a specific massage place or establishment, or city like Pattaya?
I can't wait to try Dr BJ's. In China it rare to get a BJ and even more rare to get a good when you are old and it harder to come even once.
Had a good one by massage / BJ pro (Qingdao gal) in Seattle, Wa. Smokers can go to China and ignore all the signs like the locals dp. In the elevator, reataurant, etc, but not Starbucks or that Scottish restaurant.
Just hit up Dr BJ. S for a test run.
Interesting layout which kind of dissuades one from drinking there but that's ok with me.
Choose 'Ai' one of the consultants (1000 baht) and got led up stairs. Slightly disconcerting to see the rest of the staff still sleeping on the 1st floor but at least they save in housing costs.
Ai was great performer not young but not old but still had a slightly MILFY, wonderful foreplay, knew her way around a dick. However technique was great but not spectacular but she did make up for it with a great rimming technique. She took CIM like a champ so no complaints in that department. I'd put her lack of technique down to the fact that this establishment has only been open a short while. It takes time for a lady to truly know how to give good head. There is a lady at Bliss Lounge in Pattaya I tried last year but had a less than effective style but I tried her last week and she has it down pat, just enough saliva, tongue flicking and jerking off in the the right proportions to make me tip her 200 baht. On that basis I'd give it time and hopefully the ladies will stay long enough to get some decent skills.
Only one complaint about Dr BJ's is the size of the rooms. They are only able to fit two people at a time which makes those customers who want to partake in a double header have to go else where.
PS Smokers on Sukhimvit around the Asok BTS area watch out. Police are having security guards follow tourists around and wait for them to drop cigarettes butts and then shake them down. Atleast they are not enforcing the laws on prostitution.[/QUOTE]
After 5 years on and off in China I as well as my mates who frequent have the motto: Pay per View only. That 's in our male DNA, after all. Spread the seed. Forget being domesticated. The Chinese men have created the biggest industry there. The KTV venues have drained many of their wealth, house included. It supports the clothing stores, hair salons, restaurant, Chinese Tuk TUKS. But what a boring and sad way. Cheap, fake booze and paded bills. I find a number of gals and text them when I'm horny. $45 Us for a nice massage, He and sometimes more for Uncle.
Well finally I will report on my first two weeks in Bangkok. First of all for all you obsessive ones, there is absolutely no evidence of any flood here. I stay close to the Mo Chit BTS station which is not in the downtown area. Well I took the advice of others and went to Soi Cowwboy to Baccara. I decided to stand at the bar to get a good look at the stage. No more than a few minutes went by until I was starring at a little cute with the biggest tits and most petite body I had seen in a long time. Nung #153? She kept smiling at me and I could not resist. After a couple of drinks, then the bar fine, and we were off. Damage 2500ST and 5000 LT. I must say it was the most erotic 48 hours of my mongering career. This little cutee did not stop. The best position was her on top grinding away. Great BBBJ and doggie as well. For all wondering, yes the LT was 48 hours of sure bliss. Well honestly my mongering exploits came to a halt for a week and 13000Baht later we were acting like a newly married couple. Talking about moving in together and everything. Then my 6th sense kicked in and I had to bail because at the end of the day these are just bar girls. Now to the freebies and freelance scene. Date in Asia is a great resource for freebies here in BKK. I have met a few nice girls so far and will keep you updated on my progress. By far the best freelance bars I have seen are Q Bar and Climax in the Ambassador hotel. In Climax I was approached about every 10 minutes by hot little Thail girls with one thing on their mind. I managed to pull 4 girls in 3 nights LOL. Average damage was 2500 LT. With a few days of work needed my next mongering will continue Christmas EVE. By far Barraca is the best Go go bar in BKK. I check Suzie Wong and one of the Rainbows but they don't hold a candle to Barraca. Many girls to choose from and they change up every 15 minutes or so on stage so you can see what's left after the constant bar fines going on. Here is the cutee from there I pulled for almost a week Nung number 153 I think. We had dinner together a few times.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pita123;1228606]Patpong has touts? I never noticed.[/QUOTE]They leave the big guys alone. ;)
I don't want to give the wrong impression with my new model in Bangkok. She is not Muslim and is actually and Isaan girl who was introduced by her close fiend and fellow Roi Et native who has been featured on this forum in the past. And will be in the future. I gave the girls some scarves from my Christmas shopping foray to Chatuchak market and she was playing with the scarf. This was her first time modeling for the camera and was shy at first. But she is no novice at The Game and a little Heineken helped calm her fears. Having her buddy with her helped a lot.
I apologize for posting photos on this thread. I meant to post them on Kaintuck's photo thread.
[QUOTE=Kaintuck;1228832]I don't want to give the wrong impression with my new model in Bangkok. She is not Muslim and is actually and Isaan girl who was introduced by her close fiend and fellow Roi Et native who has been featured on this forum in the past. And will be in the future. I gave the girls some scarves from my Christmas shopping foray to Chatuchak market and she was playing with the scarf. This was her first time modeling for the camera and was shy at first. But she is no novice at The Game and a little Heineken helped calm her fears. Having her buddy with her helped a lot.[/QUOTE]Till she is nice wering the scarf in that way and adds some flavour. For some it surely looks like looking at the forbidden fruit (a muslim girl in a sexy pose).
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1228706]Damage 2500ST and 5000 LT.[/QUOTE]Wow! That seems like a lot for a piece of Thai a$$. I've paid less in Bahrain. I might as well keep a regular gf!
As they say cheaper to keep her.
Hey All,
Will be going to Bangkok first time next weekend. Wanted to make sure I had my facts right.
Where to stay: Hotel on Sukhumvit road, Nana Soi 4.
Transportation: from Airport go to Arrivals to get METERED taxi to avoid 50 BHT.
Where to go:
High end girls- SPASSO. 4000 BHT for SHORT TIME which is 2-3 hours?
Around NANA Plaza:
-DC10.
-Las Vegas.
-Rainbow 4.
600 BHT bar fine?
Around Soi Cowboy:
Sharks.
Thermae: Coffee Shop, go there after 11 pm, bottom of Ruam Chit Hotel.
After 2 am go to: s Bangkok Beat on Suk. Soi 7. 1 (same Soi as Eden Club). Formally known as Absolut Bar.
During Daytime: Between Soi 3 and 5 on Sukhumvit- freelancers.
Also around Soi 6 I. E. Close to Nana Plaza.
Plenty of Russians (Uzbek) , Moroccons and Africans availabe in the street arround Soi Arab, corner with Sukumvit, in and out side Grace Hotel.
Most of the available from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
New bar Bamboo: on Soi Arab opposite Grace Hotel. Entry BHT 100, no free drink and cousine exclusively local. Price from BHT 1000 to BHT 1500.
General cost:
1500 st- 3hours.
2000-3000-lt.
Any other info, maybe more places to check out in Soi besides Sharks?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1228880]Hey All,
Will be going to Bangkok first time next weekend. Wanted to make sure I had my facts right.
Where to stay: Hotel on Sukhumvit road, Nana Soi 4.
Transportation: from Airport go to Arrivals to get METERED taxi to avoid 50 BHT.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You have done your homework, but I just tell you that if you want to avoid the 50b. Airport charge, you need to go to DEPARTURE level. Not to arrrival!
Police discourage taxi to pick up customers there, so you need to behave in the right way as you might arrive in the bad moment.
Append to me once. Taxi got me on board and then police stopped him and fined him (and kept the licence)
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1228880]Hey All,
Will be going to Bangkok first time next weekend. Wanted to make sure I had my facts right.
Where to go:
High end girls- SPASSO. 4000 BHT for SHORT TIME which is 2-3 hours?
Around NANA Plaza:. DC10, Las Vegas, Rainbow 4.
Around Soi Cowboy: Sharks.
Thermae: Coffee Shop, go there after 11 pm.
After 2 am go to: s Bangkok Beat on Suk. Soi 7. 1 (same Soi as Eden Club). Formally known as Absolut Bar.
Plenty of Russians (Uzbek) , Moroccons and Africans availabe in the street arround Soi Arab, corner with Sukumvit, in and out side Grace Hotel.
Most of the available from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
New bar Bamboo: on Soi Arab opposite Grace Hotel. Entry BHT 100, no free drink and cousine exclusively local. Price from BHT 1000 to BHT 1500.
General cost: 1500 st- 3hours. 2000-3000-lt.
Any other info, maybe more places to check out in Soi besides Sharks?[/QUOTE]A few remarks:
1. Spasso. Don't expect too much here. Girls are a little older, dressed nice, ask more money because of the surroundings, may provide better company, but are not that hot. Check it out by all means. Are they worth it? I never found a girl I wanted here.
2. Thermae. Is worth checking out if you have nothing going on at this time of the night or are just curious, but beware, the better looking girls on the left as you enter are not looking for white boys. YMMV ie you may get lucky.
3. Nana. Rainbow IV is my favorite, but if you don't find what you are looking for be sure to check out the remaining Rainbow bars.
4. Cowboy. It is easy to check the talent at all the bars. Baccara is the best IMHO. Stay away from all of the Arab's bars: Rio, Kiss, Déjà Vu, Midnight, Sahara, & Rawhide.
5. Why fool around with non Thais? Not worth it. Again IMHO.
6. DO NOT MISS the massage parlors. Soapy and oily. In the afternoon, the oily massage parlors are best thing going on in BKK. Soapies are well worth your time and money in the evening.
Excellent summarization.
I think st means2 hours or so not three.
Don't forget mango / snow white massage parlours.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1228880]Hey All,
Will be going to Bangkok first time next weekend. Wanted to make sure I had my facts right.
Where to stay: Hotel on Sukhumvit road, Nana Soi 4.
Transportation: from Airport go to Arrivals to get METERED taxi to avoid 50 BHT.
Where to go:
High end girls- SPASSO. 4000 BHT for SHORT TIME which is 2-3 hours?
Around NANA Plaza:
-DC10.
-Las Vegas.
-Rainbow 4.
600 BHT bar fine?
Around Soi Cowboy:
Sharks.
Thermae: Coffee Shop, go there after 11 pm, bottom of Ruam Chit Hotel.
After 2 am go to: s Bangkok Beat on Suk. Soi 7. 1 (same Soi as Eden Club). Formally known as Absolut Bar.
During Daytime: Between Soi 3 and 5 on Sukhumvit- freelancers.
Also around Soi 6 I. E. Close to Nana Plaza.
Plenty of Russians (Uzbek) , Moroccons and Africans availabe in the street arround Soi Arab, corner with Sukumvit, in and out side Grace Hotel.
Most of the available from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
New bar Bamboo: on Soi Arab opposite Grace Hotel. Entry BHT 100, no free drink and cousine exclusively local. Price from BHT 1000 to BHT 1500.
General cost:
1500 st- 3hours.
2000-3000-lt.
Any other info, maybe more places to check out in Soi besides Sharks?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1228885]You have done your homework, but I just tell you that if you want to avoid the 50b. Airport charge, you need to go to DEPARTURE level. Not to arrrival!
Police discourage taxi to pick up customers there, so you need to behave in the right way as you might arrive in the bad moment.
Append to me once. Taxi got me on board and then police stopped him and fined him (and kept the licence) [/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I am amazed however how important $1. 60 is to some people.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1228963]Thanks for the advice. I am amazed however how important $1. 60 is to some people.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't go to departure for the 50b. For sure, LOL.
But it seems lots seem to care (what for I don't know. Maybe the principle of cutting an expense? Hard to tell)
But dependin gon the line at arrivals, at departure you can hop in a taxi in a matter of seconds, prior a cross check of the price (as they tend to be smart) and as long as it is not an odd hour (then they either get smarter or. There are few and the police enforces more their action)
What is funny about this 50b. Fee is that it is official, it doesn't go to the airport authority, it is not compuslory, but dare to say that to a taxi driver. LOL.
I think, ultimately pays for the people sitting at the booth and handing over numbered slips with the destination written on and they keep a copy.
Should whatever happens with the taxi, and you keep your slip in the pockete they can track the taxi. A sort of precaution, in a way. That is what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1228985]I agree. I don't go to departure for the 50b. For sure, LOL. But it seems lots seem to care (what for I don't know. Maybe the principle of cutting an expense? Hard to tell). But depending on the line at arrivals, at departure you can hop in a taxi in a matter of seconds, prior a cross check of the price (as they tend to be smart) and as long as it is not an odd hour (then they either get smarter or. There are few and the police enforces more their action)[/QUOTE]I always catch taxis at the departure level. Much quicker and faster than dealing with the taxi stand, especially if coming in on a domestic flight. I've never had a problem with police here (over 100 x). Just get the driver to agree to "taxi meter," before you get in the car. Also, never go with a driver that is standing outside of his car. These guys are the ones who are scamming.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1228985]Should whatever happens with the taxi, and you keep your slip in the pockete they can track the taxi. A sort of precaution, in a way. That is what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I think that's an "urban legend." Do you know anyone who has successfully complained?
I was over in Patpong the other night with a visiting friend. Took him to the Pussy Collection club. Lots of nice A-team dancers there right now. My friend bar fined a sweet looking Lao cutie - said she was a lot of fun ST.
The girls at Pussy Collection dance in bikinis only, but a lot of them are energetic and not just "pole hangers." Beers are 120 baht (if I remember right)
There is one dark skinned hottie that has an amazing body. I would have given her some serious thought, but I had my Mrs. along. So it goes. ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1229029]I always catch taxis at the departure level. Much quicker and faster than dealing with the taxi stand, especially if coming in on a domestic flight. I've never had a problem with police here (over 100 x). Just get the driver to agree to "taxi meter," before you get in the car. Also, never go with a driver that is standing outside of his car. These guys are the ones who are scamming.
I think that's an "urban legend." Do you know anyone who has successfully complained?[/QUOTE]Coming in to Bangkok on a domestic flight recently I met and engaged in conversation with a Thai Buddhist monk who had been educated in the States. Very interesting fellow who I am now in email contact with. At Bangkok airport he asked how I was getting into town. I said meter taxi. He said come with him to the 4th floor and pick up a drop off taxi. I said that is illegal. He laughed and said, no problem if you are a monk. I thanked him for the tip and paid the 50 Baht fee at the cab stand. Still a very cheap ride into town.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1228963]Thanks for the advice. I am amazed however how important $1. 60 is to some people.[/QUOTE]I 2nd that, but it is true that getting a Taxi from Departure level saves time in a queue as well as money. If it was just the money, I wouldn't bother.
For guys whinging about the price of girls, they should not be in the BKK thread at all, as its known that Pattaya is much cheaper.
In fact, I've heard that you get a girl on the outskirts on Phnom Penh (I guessed the spelling) , who can't speak English at all, for about $5.
Some guys in Cambodia prefer this, as its almost a freebie. Its like, you then ask yourself will I buy a drink or a fuck?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1229029]I always catch taxis at the departure level. Much quicker and faster than dealing with the taxi stand, especially if coming in on a domestic flight. I've never had a problem with police here (over 100 x). Just get the driver to agree to "taxi meter," before you get in the car. Also, never go with a driver that is standing outside of his car. These guys are the ones who are scamming.
I think that's an "urban legend." Do you know anyone who has successfully complained?[/QUOTE]I do the same on "meter only", but you know they always try and, yes. I look only at the taxi that has jsut dropped a departing passenger.
Good for him a quick turn around of business and that is it.
I did not reach the 100x but indeed only happneed once that police really fined the driver.
Usually they turn their heads, move around pretending to discipline the traffic but actually ignoring what is happening.
I oknow nobody has never complained and used the numbered ticket, but looks good at the eyes of the tourism authority to make the tourist comfortable, especially the new comer.
In Buenos Aires this was a must (all hotels tracked down your room number and taxi number) as the rate of criminals amongst the taxi drivers there is quite high.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1228880]Hey All,
Will be going to Bangkok first time next weekend. Wanted to make sure I had my facts right.
Where to stay: Hotel on Sukhumvit road, Nana Soi 4.
Transportation: from Airport go to Arrivals to get METERED taxi to avoid 50 BHT.
Where to go:
High end girls- SPASSO. 4000 BHT for SHORT TIME which is 2-3 hours?
Around NANA Plaza:
-DC10.
-Las Vegas.
-Rainbow 4.
600 BHT bar fine?
Around Soi Cowboy:
Sharks.
Thermae: Coffee Shop, go there after 11 pm, bottom of Ruam Chit Hotel.
After 2 am go to: s Bangkok Beat on Suk. Soi 7. 1 (same Soi as Eden Club). Formally known as Absolut Bar.
During Daytime: Between Soi 3 and 5 on Sukhumvit- freelancers.
Also around Soi 6 I. E. Close to Nana Plaza.
Plenty of Russians (Uzbek) , Moroccons and Africans availabe in the street arround Soi Arab, corner with Sukumvit, in and out side Grace Hotel.
Most of the available from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
New bar Bamboo: on Soi Arab opposite Grace Hotel. Entry BHT 100, no free drink and cousine exclusively local. Price from BHT 1000 to BHT 1500.
General cost:
1500 st- 3hours.
2000-3000-lt.
Any other info, maybe more places to check out in Soi besides Sharks?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I was in BKK some weeks ago. I took the relatively new trainservice. 40 B for the regular service (about 30 min) to downtown and 150B for the express service (about 15 min). At the end station you can easily connect with the BTS that will take you to Sukhumvit if it there you are staying. This is what I will be using in the future!
@surf looker.
the uzbek scene is pretty sad at the moment. maybe the best have all left due to the floods and the ones left are kinda nasty (not that there is anything wrong with that if that's your thing). some had this weird gothic-**** thing going for them which would have been kinda different. also, i think from reading the forum there is another bar (spasso?) that they congregate but pricing is higher due to the venue but i've never checked it out.
i wold rather go for a double header at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] than go st with them but if, as 99% of the members here, you are never going to uzbekistan then it maybe worthwhile to cross them off your list.
it's funny to hear them negotiate with the arabs and indians here in pattaya. not sure of the pricing but it must be a lot to be gang banged by 5 over weight sweaty dudes.
thanks all. so the plan is:
nana plaza- freelancers, rainbow 4 and angels.
soi cowboy- sharks.
i'm not really big on massage parlors or go-go places. i went to singapore and enjoyed orchard street.
basically looking for bars where i can sit down and have girls come up to me or go up to them and then negotiate with them in regards to what they will or will not do and for how much.
is this possible by picking one of the go-go dancers?
[quote=pointy stick; 1229203]@surf looker.
the uzbek scene is pretty sad at the moment. maybe the best have all left due to the floods and the ones left are kinda nasty (not that there is anything wrong with that if that's your thing). some had this weird gothic* thing going for them which would have been kinda different. also, i think from reading the forum there is another bar (spasso?) that they congregate but pricing is higher due to the venue but i've never checked it out.
i wold rather go for a double header at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] than go st with them but if, as 99% of the members here, you are never going to uzbekistan then it maybe worthwhile to cross them off your list.
it's funny to hear them negotiate with the arabs and indians here in pattaya. not sure of the pricing but it must be a lot to be gang banged by 5 over weight sweaty dudes.[/quote]
@surf looker.
I think that's the basic idea of a Go Go but I've never really hit them up since I'm not big on drinking and having to spend hours there. It really depends on your budget and I can't see myself paying 2-3k plus a bar fine no matter how hot they look. I'd rather hook up with a SW / FL for an hour or go to a BJ bar for half the price but that's just me and since I've been coming here for a while I've established my preferences.
You should keep in mind the prices are variable in regards to time and it may be more expensive early in the evening than late at night but others here have more knowledge of this. Hence my preference for Soi 6 in Pattaya.
In that spirit you should consider doing something of everything just to try it. Even a four-hand ball massage or oily.
Good luck and don't forget to post. It's always interesting to hear from the newbies perspectives as those of us more experienced have a somewhat jaded outlook.
back in bkk after a 1. 5 year hiatus and staying at sukhumvit. the walk from nana is now full of african girls (15-20 when it used to be just 5-6) and i haven't seen any decent thai girls (except a few with barang who look to have been gotten from elsewhere) tried at 10pm, midnight, and 1 am on 2 different nights. picked a newbie hiding far down near mcd's behind a pole just barely in sight (lucky find). she had a kid (scar) but very cute face, white skin, and tight as a freakin pinky! she was very new to this (shy, quiet, polite) and after i asked questions found out she works at a wedding shop and makes 8k a month which she says is ok but small money.
hit catherines and la defense and the lineup was nearly empty. papasan said it was high season. at catherines i tried to take the elevator to the 5th floor for the 'special picks' but a mamasan (?) stoped me saying it was finished, no more. bs, maybe it was because i had scandals, ripped jeans, a t-shirt, and no bling bling.
i am a fan of bj bars but there were never any decent lookers in bkk (didn't stop me though) but this new dr. bj's salon had a couple of decent ones. i took a consultant called leng who had nice big titties. her bj wasn't the caliber of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] but i banged her to finish so, good, very tight. 700 baht for nurse and 1k for consultant but 2k for fs with leng (tip 200 because she went down on me for a loong time). i let mr happy do the thinking and mr wallet left a little sad.
will head to pattaya soon where i will hit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] down there. 2 decent looking girls out of the lot down there i like.
patpong has gotten big. street markets expanding and it seems the touts are more 'in your face'.
what happened to the decent fl's?
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1229217]@surf looker.
I think that's the basic idea of a Go Go but I've never really hit them up since I'm not big on drinking and having to spend hours there. It really depends on your budget and I can't see myself paying 2-3k plus a bar fine no matter how hot they look. I'd rather hook up with a SW / FL for an hour or go to a BJ bar for half the price but that's just me and since I've been coming here for a while I've established my preferences.
You should keep in mind the prices are variable in regards to time and it may be more expensive early in the evening than late at night but others here have more knowledge of this. Hence my preference for Soi 6 in Pattaya.
In that spirit you should consider doing something of everything just to try it. Even a four-hand ball massage or oily.
Good luck and don't forget to post. It's always interesting to hear from the newbies perspectives as those of us more experienced have a somewhat jaded outlook.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Feeling the same and going to more and more places with less and less emotional attachment and more and more "cum bucket" services.
Not sure though I am happy with that development.
If I allow a GFE from time to time I still enjoy it much more.
Just sharing a thought out of my life.
Mike.
P. S. Noyt that I would get that GFE in a Gogo, surf
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1229212]Thanks all. So the plan is:
Basically looking for bars where I can sit down and have girls come up to me or go up to them and then negotiate with them in regards to what they will or will not do and for how much.[/QUOTE]Lucifer or Insomnia are great places to meet women. Or if you like slightly older girls. Try some of the places in the LK Metro area (e. G. Billabong: [url]www.billabonghotel.com/bar-at-the-billabong[/url]). Also U Too Bar, [url]www.u-too-bar.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1229095]In fact, I've heard that you get a girl on the outskirts on Phnom Penh (I guessed the spelling) , who can't speak English at all, for about $5.
Some guys in Cambodia prefer this, as its almost a freebie. Its like, you then ask yourself will I buy a drink or a fuck?[/QUOTE]Actually, it is not at the outskirts of PP but within PP itself, but remember don't expect a hottie as you will get what you pay for (note: the going rate nowadays is more like $10-15) but at these prices, what the hell as you can have the gal and beer also.
[QUOTE=Kaintuck;1229081]I said that is illegal. He laughed and said, no problem if you are a monk.[/QUOTE]Guess its time to be a monk to save a few bahts, ha ha.
Happy Holidays all.
PT
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1229212]Thanks all. So the plan is:
Nana Plaza- freelancers, Rainbow 4 and Angels.
Soi Cowboy- Sharks.
I'm not really big on massage parlors or go-go places. I went to Singapore and enjoyed Orchard Street.
Basically looking for bars where I can sit down and have girls come up to me or go up to them and then negotiate with them in regards to what they will or will not do and for how much.
Is this possible by picking one of the go-go dancers?[/QUOTE]Since you say you are not big on go-go places, you might try the beer bars instead. You do not have to drink. I do enjoy a cold beer and a laugh and a game of pool while deciding if she'll be fun in the room. Your list DOES have 3 go-go bars on it. I think you should take another look at Natty Bumpo's list. He hit a bulls eye in my opinion and the massage places are hardly about massage. Read the forum on Mangos Snow White etc etc etc. Cannot be beat for your daytime draining.
C4T
[quote=surf looker; 1229212]thanks all. so the plan is:
nana plaza- freelancers, rainbow 4 and angels.
soi cowboy- sharks.
i'm not really big on massage parlors or go-go places. i went to singapore and enjoyed orchard street.
basically looking for bars where i can sit down and have girls come up to me or go up to them and then negotiate with them in regards to what they will or will not do and for how much.
is this possible by picking one of the go-go dancers?[/quote]gulliver's tavern on soi 5. freelancer pickup joint / pool hall.
beergarden on soi 7. notorious freelancer pickup joint.
hillary bar soi 4 & soi 11.
det 5 on soi 8.
player's, just past asoke, headed towards nana, down a little cut (there use to be a super hot girl that worked there named the, smoking hot, i think she is till there.
there are about a million more, these are just a few my personal fave's, also so 22 has a whole bunch of little beer bar rep001tered all over the place, it is really an often overlooked area, but great fun to be had. you have washington square and queen's plaza to choose from, and not nearly as packed.
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer; 1229330]Lucifer or Insomnia are great places to meet women. Or if you like slightly older girls. Try some of the places in the LK Metro area (e. G. Billabong:
[url]www.billabonghotel.com/bar-at-the-billabong[/url]
). Also U Too Bar,
[url]www.u-too-bar.com[/url][/QUOTE]Yes they are, but they are in Pattaya.
I; m not looking to venture to far out since then you'll have to deal with taxi.
So I'm in the Soi 4 area near Nana Hotel.
So I believe Thermae is nearby and even Spasso isn't too far. Could be walked. The Grand Hyatt right?
Lots of traffic it seems.
Side note: Where is the cheapest place to get quality suits. Seeing ads for "Jas Clothing"
[QUOTE=Dveight;1229457]Yes they are, but they are in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1229481]I; m not looking to venture to far out since then you'll have to deal with taxi.
So I'm in the Soi 4 area near Nana Hotel.
So I believe Thermae is nearby and even Spasso isn't too far. Could be walked. The Grand Hyatt right?
Lots of traffic it seems.
Side note: Where is the cheapest place to get quality suits. Seeing ads for "Jas Clothing"[/QUOTE]Thermae is ok to walk. I have done it, but you will work up a sweat. Take the BTS to Spasso or Cowboy and beyond. If you pick up a girl at either of these venues, you will want to take a taxi back to your hotel. Don't be a newbie. Learn the ropes. The train system is fast, convenient, cheap and will take you everywhere you want & should go. It is your trip so do what you want, but you would really be missing out on the best BKK has to offer if you focus just on the Soi 4 area.
As far as suits go, remember you get what you pay for. Really cheap suits look really cheap.
Another thought:
For first timers to BKK; avail yourselves of all BKK has to offer. Check out the temples and the Royal Palace. Eat some quality Thai food. Buy a silk shirt made to order ect. Try to get to as many of the great venues as possible including the sex massage parlors, the late night clubs, the Go Go’s, the beer bars and the FL’s. BKK is really a cool place. It is the big mango and has a lot to offer. But if you are not into trying all this and just want to hang around the soi 4 area shagging cheap pussy, that’s cool, but I think you might really be happier in Pattaya. Pat has more pussy per sq block than anywhere in Asia. Soi 6,7,8, Beach Road, Soi Post Office, DD’s, a zillion beer bars, and high & low end Go Go’s. Pat has cheaper prices and everything is pretty centrally located so getting around is infinitely easier than BKK. So yeah, Surf Looker, Pattaya may be what you are really looking for.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1228872]Wow! That seems like a lot for a piece of Thai a$$. I've paid less in Bahrain. I might as well keep a regular gf!
As they say cheaper to keep her.[/QUOTE]If you read my post it was for a whole weekend the 5000 Baht. Please tell me where else you could find a piece of ass like this for a full 48 hours of GFE action. Yes you are correct it was like having a girlfriend. In fact I could have easily closed the deal but my 6th sense kicked in and I let her walk a short time after. Can you contribute a photo or two? How about a good review! Why complain about the prices others pay? Worry about the price you pay. Contribute to the the thread instead. The BKK section would be much better off. For those who think that a few inconspicuous mongers who pay more than maybe you would can drive prices up in BKK are Ting Tong as they say in these parts. If you believe that I have one hell of a bridge for sale LOL.
Transportation: 530 to SOI 4 / Nana- includes tip and 70 bhat for highways. 5 pm pickup with a lot of traffic.
-Went to Soi 3- Grace Hotel- arab club / music. Few sexy arab girls but crazy numbers for short time. Left. 200 bhat to get in / gets you a drink.
-Went Thermae- 60 bhat for soda. Lots of Japanese guys. Most of the girls stand around the bar didn't see many approaching the guys. Overall nothing special, no gorgeous girls or older sexy women. Looked like most were into the Japanese guys.
-Went to Nana Plaza- all the Rainbows, Voodoo, Angelwitch. Overall all young girls. Some seem disinterested, others enjoyed dancing. Decided to pass based on bar fine and what kind of experience with the girl.
-Ended up picking slightly older girl. 26. Very pretty. Walked up and down Soi 4 bunch of times since I'm picky.
2000 bhat from 2 am to 11 am.
- lots of Ladyboys around Soi 4 and Nana.
-easy metro to get around, saw Grand Palace and other shrines
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1229743]If you read my post it was for a whole weekend the 5000 Baht. Please tell me where else you could find a piece of ass like this for a full 48 hours of GFE action.[/QUOTE]In a Pattaya disco you could for less than half that. But that is neither here nor there.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1229844]In a Pattaya disco you could for less than half that. But that is neither here nor there.[/QUOTE]Also off Soi 6. The BF is usually 500 and the most I ever paid for 24 hours was 1500. Those girls are the ultimate GFE.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1229935]But the girls are darker and uglier in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Well. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There are SO many women in Pattaya and many of them are beautiful. Nothing wrong with a good tan color while I'm drooling.
Also I have never had a 15 or 20 minute short time in Thailand. Maybe only 40 or 45 minutes if it felt really rushed.
C4T
I miss Thailand and Bangkok. Not just the great sex with pros and non-pros, but the sights, smells, food, weather. And the smiles.
Whoever is living there, remember how much of a lucky bastard you are.
Happy new year, and all! :)
Hi BJ here.
I would like to share a recent experience with you. About 4 weeks ago I met a nice girl who was the manageress of a massage place. She was slightly younger than me and not a stunner by any stretch but was a genuinely nice person. After getting a massage in the place where she works (it was just a massage, honest) I got talking to her outside and we ended up swapping numbers. A few days later I called her up and we went for a meal and then to the cinema (tower heist, shit film to be honest).
After a few days I decided to ask her to stay over and to my surprise she agreed. Things took a physical turn straight away, which immediately made me think 'well this isn't going to last very long' sex on the first night is a pretty good indication. Let's be honest all men are slags and yes this does sound hypocritical but when a woman sleeps with you straight away then say's 'I don't usually do this so quick' it may not mean trouble straight away, but you know it's in the post.
Personally I took the situation as 'let's keep things on a very casual basis' and I was man enough to spell this out to her as well. She agreed and said she did not want to get heavy at such a short time (that was my first mistake). As things progressed her text messages took a more involved tone which began to scare me. Secondly she slowly kept bringing more of her stuff around, I re-iterated my stance on the situation and she kept smiling, nodding and agreeing (que my second mistake). I have heard, as all of us have, bad stories about the wrath of women the world over, but Thai women are the world heavy weight champions when it comes to the woman scorned scenario.
Things began to take a more sinister turn when she started to ask me if I had been going to go-go bars, and bringing ladies back to my place, so much for the casual basis thing. I would jokingly say that I had had 3 bar women round the night before and she took it as the light hearted jibe it was intended to be (Hello, mistake number three). Well things came to a head last weekend when I went out to Soi Cowboy with some of the staff from my bar. I drank and danced (badly) way too much and had a massive hangover the next day. I had to make my way to Pattaya to attend a Christmas party and she called me up asking all sorts of stupid (not to a woman I guess) questions. I was getting seriously pissed off with the whole state of affairs and let her know how I felt. This made her dig her heels in and turn on the water works which summed up the inevitability of my predicament and I thought to myself I really have to bail on this one.
All sorts of horrific possibilities were racing through my mind as I made my way to Pattaya. What if she does something stupid to herself, fuck what if she does it to me! I decided to put it to the back of my mind and enjoy the party, which I did. On my return to Bangkok I discovered she had been talking to a friend of mine which I had introduced to her and is also female. I have to say all credit to my friend. When I got back on Sunday afternoon I called her up and suggested we had to talk, so she duly arrived. To my great consternation she did all she could to avoid the issue, despite the unmistakable atmosphere in the place (is it just me? Or do Thai people have an amazing ability to ignore the elephant in the room?). She stayed the night, no sex, and I slept with one eye open. She doesn't come across as the malicious type but you can never be sure. Anyway I woke up on Monday with my penis and all my possessions intact, good start to the day I thought.
This is where the credit to my friend part comes in. This lady sat me down and said that she felt we were looking for two different things from the relationship (que my amazement and extreme hesitation). She then went on to say that there was no reason the situation had to end acrimoniously, we are both old enough and experienced enough not to be silly about it and that if possible she would like to remain friends. I was quite taken aback by her attitude and a bit skeptical about her honesty but we parted in good faith and have spoken a few times since she is genuinely ok about the situation. It turns out the stuff she said was exactly what my friend had said to her on the phone. Since this I have even registered her on a web site to meet European men. I will count myself very lucky on this occasion.
Finally I would like to share a couple of funny things which happened in the bar. I got talking to a guy who turned out to be American; he asked if I was French? I said no, that I was Scottish and he replied 'Scottish, which country is that'? The second was three English guys who started asking all kinds of stupid questions and the best one was, one of the guys pointed at the microwave and said 'what's that microwave for'? I kid you not.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1229954]Well. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are SO many women in Pattaya and many of them are beautiful. Nothing wrong with a good tan color while I'm drooling. Also I have never had a 15 or 20 minute short time in Thailand. Maybe only 40 or 45 minutes if it felt really rushed.
C4T[/QUOTE]Skin color is a minor factor in my appraisal of beauty. I have been with some lovely darker skinned Thais as well as gorgeous Indo girls. It is mainly Asian guys that put a premium on lighter skin color. Although lately, I am getting hard for super hot light skinned Chinese girls in Macau and HKG, but that is another story.
Go Go or FL ST means one shot and you are done. So ST may be 3 minutes. 7 minutes. 40 minutes or a hour depending on the man and the circumstance. After an hour, even a good Thai girl will want you to finish up. In a quality massage parlor ST means the time you contracted for - an hour, 90 minutes or more with as many shags (usually 2) as possible.
Merry Christmas or Winter Solstice (Dec 22) if you prefer.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1193967]Mid July and mid August I stayed in Bangkok, both for around one week.
Through Tagged I made some contact and during the weeks before in Southern China and Hong Kong I had regular contact with one particular girl.
In China in some hotels I could make contact with Tagged in other hotels / service apartments the service was blocked by government. So with interruption we had contact and she was willing to send me some pictures by regular e-mail.
On specific questions like 'what do you expect from meeting me in BKK' and 'what are you rules when we meet' she did not give an reaction.
Finally she agreed to meet with me directly after my return to Bangkok what was on a Sunday, beginning of August in the late afternoon / early evening.
She gave me here phone number and during my stay in Hong Kong I send her some SMS to (re) confirm.
One returned to Bangkok I decided not to contact her and waited to see if she would take the first step (she had ask around which time I would arrive in Bangkok).
Playing pool in the late afternoon in Gulliver's with another girl she send me an SMS to check if I was already arrived.
I lied a little and said just there and still unpacking etc. And we agreed to meet within 1, 5 hour at the Landmark terrace.
Not sure if my pool partner was taking my attention or something else but I totally forgot the time and more than one hour after we had SMS contact and she said she was leaving her house (in On Nut).
I left Gulliver's (while rain was starting to give some horrible hours) , so I had to take a cab in Soi 3 to drop me in my Hotel in Soi 6.
Just entering the reception I got a phone call 'where are you'. Uhm. Waiting for the rain, no taxis here so give me another 15 minutes dear.
Around 30 minutes later, after a quick shower (you never know) and changing clothes the taxi dropped me at the Landmark and it was clear with this weather nobody on the terrace. So walking to the tables inside of the Landmark I passed a hot sexy girl and took my phone to call me date and. The hot sexy girl. Waved to me as two old friend who meet again.
After a hug and my compliments I decided to pay her drink and invited her over to the restaurant.
We ordered and had a nice conversation and it was clear for me.
The girl was around mid 20's. 170 cm (with heels) , curvy but not fat and a great personalty, chemistry was building between us.
After the first course I said let we go down to the Huntsman bar what we did.
This gave me the possibility to view her backside and in the bar I took one of the corner places.
It was around 8 PM and only a view people where there.
We continued with some food and drinks but this time we where seated next to each other. Quickly my arm goes around her shoulder and I could feel her breast and bump very well.
Within the next 15 minutes I said let we go to my hotel room there we have more privacy and. She only smiled.
In the taxi (it was still raining, raining and raining) I kissed her neck and she also gave some attention to my extras and in the elevator we started tongue kissing. In the room we immediately go down on the couch and we touched each other nicely and for a very long time while parts of the clothes where coming down. We had a shower for around 15 minutes and after that we continued on the bed. Nearly all positions that I ever did where on the menu and I came at least 2 times into the next hours.
We even slept for a while and around midnight I started the conversation what she had to do the next day. She said nothing particular and she asked me and what about you. I started a story that I had some conference calls the next day so it would be better if we slept separate. Not sure if she was fine or disappointed with that but we agreed that we would meet again as I was in Bangkok for 10 days.
We continued with sex for another hours or so, she allowed me more or less everything but no anal and I asked if I could come in her mount, she gave me only a smile and around 10 minutes later she got the full load.
Normally, in my experience, girls go quickly after this to the bathroom and spiff it out but she sucked me for another 5 minutes and left down in my arm. My Tagged girl.
I gave her 1. 500 THB (nothing about money was discussed ever before) for taxi.
Sorry no pictures. I try to meet her again and will try to get her for LT or even for some days.[/QUOTE]As my business was really poor and also helped by the Thai flooding I had to skip my business trip to China and Thailand in October but I needed to have some vendor meetings in December.
This gave me also the opportunity to see if I could renew the contact with one of my Tagged girls. Some weeks before over the internet was started messages exchange and she told me that her mother's business was impacted by the flooding and that it was really poor in business (tell me something).
Before coming to Thailand I needed to go to China and Hong Kong and we made an agreement to meet each other again just after my arrival in Bangkok. Some hours before meeting I got an SMS in which she mentioned she had to see her mother (WTF) so we had to change our plans to the next days. What could I do: mothers in some Thai families are the same as the King in Thailand.
I did not reply to her SMS that day and the next day around 17:30 I replied to her SMS questioning will be meet, where and how late. I got an immediately reply saying she would have shower and we would meet at 7 pm at the Landmark. At 18:40 she called me (I was just in my apartment) and she was (already) in the Landmark. So I had to change clothes quickly and walked from Soi 6 to the Landmark where I met her around 7 PM. As old friends we greeted each other and after finishing her drink we decided to go to the Huntmans Bar under the Landmark Hotel. More or less a repeat from what was described in my previous post with this girl. At around 09:30 pm we landed in my apartment. I brought her a small present (a small selection of mini perfumes) which was received very well, she gave me here lovely return.
After some hours of action at around midnight I asked her if I should turn off the lights in which she agreed. As I have a two room apartment I also had to go to the other room and when doing this I decided already that I would putt 1. 500 THB to her perfumes (I was not sure when she would leave). At around 06:00 AM she made me wake up questioning how late it was. 06:00 AM and she made a lot of Thai noise (I totally could not understand) and she quickly goes to the bathroom. Within a minute she got from the bathroom to the living and said in broken English that she did not had the intention to stay and now had to go because she needed to start work at 08:00 AM. Without light on she dressed up and gave me a quick kiss and left. Some hours later she gave me an message saying 'thank you and enough you stay in Bangkok'. I will try to get her again in for one of the next nights.
Conclusion: a valuable contact.
Dear Friends,
I am considered a newbie in ISG forum. I happened to find info about the infamous BJ bar SOL and found a good deal of info about this place in the forum. BTW, I am also a great fan of this place. I will be in Bangkok in about a month and I am planning to spend time in there. I have some questions that I couldn't find the answer for in the forum. I would be glad if you help me find the answers:
- I am an exhibitionist kind of guy. And I only enjoy public sex when both my partner and I are totally nude. Is it possible for me and my girl to get fully nude in SOL in front of the others and fuck each other?
- I heard that anal sex is also possible in the bar. Do all the girls provide anal sex by default in the so-called boom-boom mode or should I check / ask the girl whether she'll do it or not?
- In other posts by senior forum members it has been stated several times that bareback sex is also possible in SOL. Generally, how safe is it to go bareback with girls in SOL? IMHO, most of the time they only do blow jobs which is less likely to transmit HIV or other severe STDs so the risk should be relatively lower comparing to go-go girls. Am I right? Do they test for HIV and other STDs on a regular basis?
- And at last, should I give the tip to the girl? Or should I give the tip on top of my bill to the bar tender?
I would be grateful if you answer my questions.
Thanks a lot!
Merry Christmas board!
I was reading this forum for a long time and decided to write short report from my trip back in March. Excuse my English. It's my third language spoken and I'm not good at it.
I was for two weeks in LOS: 8 days in BKK and 6 in Phuket. I'm 35 and usually have no problem with picking up girls in Europe but I was tempted to try some of Asian specialities. I must admit that I'm not really into P4P scene but done a few girls in Ukraine, Greece, Holland.
I had chatted with maybe 20 girls off badoo and thaifriendly before I arrived to BKK so I had a few phone numbers and contacts. First night I met cute tiny 30 whyear old office girl from BKK with decent English. Dinner in Emporium, a few drinks in one of a clubs on suk soi 7 and around 1 a. M. I still really wasn't sure if I was playing right as the girl was sweet and funny but kind of reserved. Anyway decided to push things forward, asked to go to my hotel and she agreed. Back in hotel she acted very shy and unbelievably GFE but almost everything was on an offer so no complaints. We went sleep around 5 a. M. And she woke up at 7a. M. Saying that she has to go to work at 9 so quick shower, breakfast, money for the taxi (500 BHT) , a few hugs / kisses and "see you later alligator". Total cost: 4000 BHT
During the days I did all the usual and unusual tourist attractions: floating market, Chinatown, king's castle, Ayutthaya, temples, Jim Thompson's house, shopping (MBK, Emporium, Siam.) and everything I could find in my guides and on internet.
Next evening I decided to stroll around NANA and Soi Cowboy. I took a tour around the bars and gogos but nothing took my interest so decided to sit in a bar on the ground floor in NANA and watch the crowd. Then I spotted this old guy with super cute, dark skinned, maybe 18 whyear old Thai treasure. I quickly asked bar person where that girl is from and she pointed on one of the gogo bars upstairs. OK, quickly finished my beer and rushed in hunting for the same trophy for myself. I went in, sat down on one of the tables, took a beer and started tagging the ladies. After a couple of minutes I spotted one very similar girl sitting in a corner with customer. I looked at her and smiled a few times. She smiled back and after 15 minutes she was sitting with me. Poor English but we made a deal for 2000 BHT ST + 600 BF. Back to my hotel, shower and unrushed service. She was one of the best girls I've ever slept with. I think that the top level of professionalism in P4P is when you cannot say that she is fake and do it for money but again I'm not that experienced. IMO there was nothing artificial. So different from pros in Amsterdam or Frankfurt! Absolutelly fantastic session!
Next day I went to MP on Soi 5. I took nice looking 30+ girl with blink of devil in eyes and small tattoo on her arm. She was doing massage for maybe 30 minutes but no sign or talk of extras. Finally she turned me over on my back and couldn't miss my best friend ready for action. She smiled and I asked how bad she can be to me and my best friend. She smiled and said that she can only be very good and for 1000 BHT she can be even better. I agreed and she started with mechanical HJ, then BJ. I freed her a bit saggy tits and pumped in cow girl. It was kind of strange to hear other customers only behind thin walls. Almost like sex in a fitting room in shopping mall. Quick finish, cleaning with warm, wet towels and time to go. Nice shot but not sure if I'll repeat.
Evening spent with another office girl from BKK. 28 whyear old kind of sweet, a bit ignorant and silly gal but body 9/10. We did almost the same round of action as the first day: dinner on a roof of one of the hotels, a few drinks etc back to hotel, one full round and I delicately sent her home as I planned to wake up early the next day.
For the rest of my time in BKK I stick to the first girl and wanted to take her with me to Phuket but she declined due to work obligations. It was great time and I can't wait to fly to Asia again. I have Chinese girl at this moment but still miss BKK etc.
I did also two FL picked in Hollywood Disco in Pathong, Phuket but not much to say about it.
Two funny situations that suprised me a lot:
1. One morning I had enough of Thai food and decided to go to McDonald's near NANA behind gas station. I was sitting behind a window and eating my burger when one lady around 35, a bit rounded but still OK and with beautiful face drove to gas station and started tanking her bike. She spotted me looking at her through the window and smiling at her. She turned away but after a sec she looked at me again and smiled back. She finished filling her bike, paid, drove around the station, parked in front of McD and came over to me with nice smile. I was shocked but couldn't miss such an opportunity. She spoke great English and was on her way for shopping. We chatted for maybe 15 minutes and there was definitely chemistry building between us. I asked if she can go with me to my hotel but she said that she is busy at this moment and can meet me around 2 pm I had flight to Phuket at 4 pm so I couldn't do it but still it was really surprising.
2. I was eating on one morning in Burger King on the road parallel to the beach in Pathong. It was quiet there so I started chatting with young cutie named Nam behind the counter. The response was very cheerful, she gave me her phone no and promised to meet me that evening. Very young but definitely experienced. We spent some time on Bangla Road eating, drinking, playing, dancing and joking. Then to my hotel and average action throughout the night but still such a young, beautiful and playful kid is not an easy target for 30+ guy back in Europe.
Bottom line: Thailand is wonderful place, girls are amazing, food is good, people are polite, plenty of attraction everywhere and I would love to move there if only someone would pay me European rate for my job.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1230093]Seems the contact is more valuable to her- if anyone cares to read between the lines! Just wondering if anyone else would fall for the girl saying she had to go to work at 8am, . If work was so important wouldn't she have already factored this in in meeting this fine gentleman. This is just another happenstance that makes little sense.[/QUOTE]It makes little sense that someone has to work and doesn't want to be late and risk losing their job? I don't get it. From Somewhere's post he states that he met up with a girl from Tagged that he has known for sometime and has met up with before. She was busy the first day (and let him know well ahead of time), but showed up 20 minutes early the next day. She stayed with him from 7pm until 6am. She did not ask him for anything this time, nor did she ask anything from him the previous time. He voluntarily gave her a gift of perfume and secretly gave her 1500 baht. Where is the mystery? She enjoys his company and he likes to give unsolicited gifts / money. It seems he has a gem on his hands. A nice-looking woman who works, likes to fuck him and spend time with him, and doesn't ask him for shit.
I meet girls from Tagged all the time who have regular jobs. Some of them I fuck once, some of them I fuck regularly, and some of them I don't fuck at all. But to none of them do I give gifts or money and none is expected. If I do not get her from a bar, go-go, off the street where she is assuming the street walker position, or from a disco where she is a known hooker, then why would I?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1230093]Seems the contact is more valuable to her- if anyone cares to read between the lines!
Just wondering if anyone else would fall for the girl saying she had to go to work at 8am, .
If work was so important wouldn't she have already factored this in in meeting this fine gentleman.
This is just another happenstance that makes little sense.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment. A while ago there was a discussion in this section about chemistry.
For me (after meeting this girl more times) I still have the believe that she is very genuine.
And let we be reasonable: many of us meet freelancers here where we know that they are not a freelancer (never understand that word in relation as it is sometimes used) but they are really professionals who meet at least once or more times a day one of us. Many of us pay more than 1. 500 THB (and on top barfines etc.).
I spend this year around 150 days out of 360 in Bangkok; I know what is available / possible etc.
This contact (for me) is valuable. After my earlier post I had some PM's from others to forward her contact details what I denied becuase I have to respect this girl / her situation.
She is not a 10 (as sometimes described by others) , much more a 7 but. Once of the better girls that I have met in 2011 (including looking to value for money and. We never discussed money).
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1230143]It makes little sense that someone has to work? I don't get it. From Somewhere's post he states that he met up with a girl from Tagged that he has known for sometime and has met up with before. She was busy the first day, but showed up 20 minutes early the next day. She stayed with him from 7pm until 6am. She did not ask him for anything this time, nor did she ask anything from him the previous time. He voluntarily gave her a gift of perfume and secretly gave her 1500 baht. Where is the mystery? She enjoys his company and he likes to give unsolicited gifts / money. I meet girls from Tagged all the time who have regular jobs. Some of them I fuck once, some of them I fuck regularly, and some of them I don't fuck at all. But to none of them do I give gifts or money and none is expected. If I do not get her from a bar, go-go, off the street where she is assuming the street walker position, or from a disco where she is a known hooker, then why would I?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment as well.
I agree with your comment and this is also how I experienced it.
The only learning for me is try harder; see if I can get another Tagged (or DIA) contact lined-up who has the same chemistry but is a 8 or 9 (I do not believe in 10's).
Mostly I do not have the time while staying in Bangkok for this type of contacts; for that reason I try to meet girls in places like Guillivers.
Its easier to get within some hours a nice contact but many of them expect also more than the 1. 500 THB that I pay (unasked).
More reports will follow (but probably after some days, currently to bussy with the hobby).
[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1230146]The only learning for me is try harder; see if I can get another Tagged (or DIA) contact lined-up who has the same chemistry but is a 8 or 9 (I do not believe in 10's).[/QUOTE]Good luck brother. It's hard enough getting the chemistry. And from my experience most of the girls I meet from Tagged look much worse in person than they do in their photos. You would not even know many of them are the same person. When my cousin came over in June he was bragging about all the fine women he had lined up from Tagged. Then when he met them in person he realized that he wouldn't fuck them with a stolen dick. I wish that I knew their photogenic secrets because whatever it is it definitely works.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1230026]Hi BJ here.
I would like to share a recent experience with you. About 4 weeks ago I met a nice girl who was the manageress of a massage place. She was slightly younger than me and not a stunner by any stretch but was a genuinely nice person.[/QUOTE]Interesting and entertaining story which illustrates why committed butterflies in Thailand shouldn't get romantically involved with "good" girls.
Just curious. Did you tell her up front that you manage a blowjob establishment? If not, that might have been your first mistake.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1230181]Just curious. Did you tell her up front that you manage a blowjob establishment? If not, that might have been your first mistake.[/QUOTE]No shit! I also am interested in what kind of visa you have, do you manage a blow job on a tourist visa? Or are you 55 on retirement visa?
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1230181]Interesting and entertaining story which illustrates why committed butterflies in Thailand shouldn't get romantically involved with "good" girls.
Just curious. Did you tell her up front that you manage a blowjob establishment? If not, that might have been your first mistake.[/QUOTE]Pardon the off-topic post, but I'm obvious; why not the only one who is curious about how these conversations goes. I. E, you're having an evening meal with this girl you'vemeet, who has just finished telling you about her day in the office, and she then politely asks, so what about you, what do you work with?
I suspect most girls (or men, for that matter) would need a little extra time to understand what Dr. BJ's job is. Might make for a fun candid-camera moment too.
howdy.
i have a regular thai gf, working in an office. she is a sweet gal. 28, very nice body and quite pretty. we have great sex, i feel no need to stray. however, she is very reluctant to provide oral to completion. she gives it a token effort each time, the level of service never improving. we have talked about it, she just does not like it. so, every now and then i feel the need for a decent bj.
last week i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s around noon. reasonable line up, all seemed keen to clean my wizzer. picked a lady called som, she had the nicest body and a gorgeous mouth. straight upstairs, no other customers. after a clean, she was down to business, very slow deep strokes, lovely! i began playing with her breasts, she stood up and removed all but her panties, i pulled those down for her. what a lovely trimmed fanny. gave the clit a few tweaks and she turned around and began to, i thought, lower herself onto me bb. whoa i thought, but no, she just slid her fanny up and down my wizzer. felt pretty damn good and her arse looked beautiful. minute or two went by and she said "you want to fuck". no thanks sweetie, just the blowy. back to the real business, didn't take too long before i blew my load. she slowed it right down after i came, concentrating on the underside of the head, wow, top work. made sure she got every drop and then discreetly emptied her mouth into a tissue. damn, that was good.
downstairs. 700 to the bar and tipped her 500. told her i would be back for round two after lunch.
back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s after lunch at bully's.
som was not there. some dirty thief had taken her out to his room!
looked at the girls again, picked a midget called vew. tiny girl but nicely proportioned. upstairs, clean and commence.
oh dear. she was, well her mouth was, making a very odd noise. i just could not stop listening to this noise, like a dripping tap when you are trying to sleep. damn.
stood her up and asked her to remove her clothes, naked in a flash! spent sometime playing with her, she was up for anything. what you want she said? she climbed up onto the couch onto her hands and knees and backed in towards me. now, i hadn't even considered fs until that point, i swear her fanny was winking at me. how much i asked for fs, seeing my gf's face in my minds eye? 1100 pay downstairs she says. hmmnn. that sounded very reasonable. ok i said, she capped me and was back on her knees. i am not sure whether she had the perfect fanny, or, the angle of attach was spot on, but i blew into that rubber in 2 minutes flat! wtf? she laughed when i commented on that.
downstairs. 1100 to the bar. 400 to her. what a good day so far!
next day i was off to sol. around noon again. not sure if i picked a bad time or a bad day, but, there was nothing there i could get hard over. 5 guys on the stools and couch, all drinking and not looking for action i would say. very disappointed, off i went.
decided to go to lollipop 1.
around 8 girls, heavily made up with the whitener. picked a young tall girl, sorry but i can't recall her name.
i was the shops 1st customer for the day. after swallowing a litre of listerine, she got down to business. no wash? didn't allow clothing removal but allowed touching through clothing. good performance and unusually, swallowed my load.
paid my bill, they asked for 800? said it should be 7, ok. 300 to the girl.
didn't rate lollipop, not sure why, just don't like the vibe.
2 days later, my gf had to overnight at her parents place. long story, never mind.
decided on my maiden trip to dr bj's.
was ushered in and show the girls up on the mezzanine floor. nurses and consultants. couldn't see the difference.
one of the nurses was quite fat but had a great smile. i hummed and harred, but my eye kept returning to her. am i losing my mind i thought? she is huge! bugger it, chose her.
once again, no washing?
she was down to business, quite proficient and happy in her work. i started stroking her ample neck, so she stopped and removed all her clothes. not quite so bad in the buff, in fact, her breasts were lovely! began working on those and fingering her. very wet very quickly and started to moan loudly. heard a lady from another room laugh and ask her to keep the noise down. she pushed me back in the reclining chair and sort of fell on me! luckily i am not a small guy! unfortunately she had impaled herself on me and was humping like crazy. i said stop, no condom, stop! she said no stop, she hadn't cum in a long time and i had a nice cock. are you kidding me! now i am serious in saying she had me pinned on that chair, and damn, that fanny was gloriously tight and wet. i thought, let her go for a few minutes and then force her off with some brazilian jujitsu move i was trying to think up. suddenly she starts bellowing and grinding her groin into me, then collapses onto me further, crushing the life out of me. she starts kissing me every where, this lady is seriously grateful. my wizzer is still standing, is it bent i am thinking, as she finishes me off with a very good blowy.
she cleans me up and still wants to kiss me all over, she must be considering round 2, so i stand up and begin to dress. gives me her ph number and address!
downstairs, think it was 1700? not sure actually what i paid come to think of it. she refuses a tip, saying i made her sooo happy. a lot of laughing and whistling from the other ladies. off i go.
this is a great town, you never know what you will find or what you will do. never intended to do what i did, just hope that fatty was not a carrier.
guess it is check up time. oh dear!
ciao.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1230211]No shit! I also am interested in what kind of visa you have, do you manage a blow job on a tourist visa? Or are you 55 on retirement visa?[/QUOTE]I have no idea what my paper work is all about, not a strong point of mine, all I can tell you is Aey and her buddies in uniform sorted it all out for me. I have permits for this and permits for that and a load of stamps in my passport that I had to go to Immigration in Changwatana for. After that I cannot tell you anymore, its all Thai to me.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck; 1230315]Howdy.
I have a regular thai gf, working in an office. She is a sweet gal. 28, very nice body and quite pretty. We have great sex, I feel no need to stray. However, she is very reluctant to provide oral to completion. She gives it a token effort each time, the level of service never improving. We have talked about it, she just does not like it. So, every now and then I feel the need for a decent BJ.[/QUOTE]In my experience also, not so many [b]regular[/b] Thai girls are keen to cop a load in the mouth, unless they are very experienced sexually. Also inexperienced girls can get jaw-ache very easily from taking a big cock in a small mouth, purely due to the lack of practice in doing so (opening very wide for an extended period). Of course girls can be trained to give better blow jobs over time. Best to get your GF to give a short BJ before sex each time, and regularly, to get her used to it. Better to promise not to cum in her mouth so she is not scared its going to happen. Note that it also takes a lot of practice for girls to be able to deep throat (overcome the gag reflex). There are many girls who would not even consider copping a load in the mouth. Working girls do it because they need the money, and know they have to try to provide whatever the other working girls provide or risk losing customers. A GF doesn't feel she is under that pressure.
Your solution of out-sourcing to get great blow-jobs is a good one. The risk of picking up STDs (like Chlamydia or Gonorreah.) from a BBBJ is considerly less than from BB sex (but feintly possible). Wash your dick and hands throughly after BBBJ to minimise the risk. Pick girls that seem to attend to hygene too.
Originally Posted by Prince007 [View Original Post]
I had major fun during my short stay in Bangkok this past weekend (reports to follow). However, the downer was that Insomnia was closed on Saturday night. I went there after making rounds in Nana plaza with the intention of ending my night at Insomnia (and maybe picking up a stunner there). But that wasn't meant to be. I was told that the closure is permanent (for now) and was a result of the new political bodies in Thailand (and Bangkok). Such a shame!
[QUOTE=Capitalized On;1197902]This is terrible news if it is closed. I was including that in my plans for my next trip because it was a highlight of my last trip (see my last trip report post).[/QUOTE]Is it true? Is insomnia closed?
I guess that Insomnia is open now for around 1 year and. They get better and better. The only minus can de that there is only a disjoykey and no live band but for me they are better than Climax and CM2.
Also the selection of willing girls is mucht better these days (forget freelancer or non-pro's; they all have one target: get a farang and make some addtiontional Bahts)
Bankok Report-
Transportation: 530 to SOI 4 / Nana- includes tip and 70 bhat for highways. 5 pm pickup with a lot of traffic.
.Went to Soi 3- Grace Hotel- arab club / music. Few sexy arab girls but crazy numbers for short time. Left. 200 bhat to get in / gets you a drink.
.Went Thermae- 60 bhat for soda. Lots of Japanese guys. Most of the girls stand around the bar didn't see many approaching the guys. Overall nothing special, no gorgeous girls or older sexy women. Looked like most were into the Japanese guys.
.Went to Nana Plaza- all the Rainbows, Voodoo, Angelwitch. Overall all young girls. Some seem disinterested, others enjoyed dancing. Decided to pass based on bar fine and what kind of experience with the girl.
.Ended up picking slightly older girl. 26. Very pretty. Walked up and down Soi 4 bunch of times since I'm picky.
2000 bhat from 2 am to 11 am.
. Lots of Ladyboys around Soi 4 and Nana.
.easy metro to get around, saw Grand Palace and other shrines
Next night (Saturday)
-Went up and down Soi 4.
-Went to Nana Plaza, checked out the Go-Go Bars.
-Checked out bars, Hillary, Nana Beer Garden.
-Didn't see anyone I liked. Lots of cute girls in the Go-Go, but I want bit older. 25 +
-Decided to go to Spasso. With reluctance since I knew it would be a lot more.
-Found great looking girl. 5500 BHAT for long term. She paid for taxi since I didn't have change. 32 years old, great body. Time: 1:30 Am to 12 pm afternoon.
-Total cost: 5500 bhat, and I didn't pay her back for the taxi LOL or get her breakfast nor did she ask.
Final night (Sunday)
-Same thing, up down Soi 4 and Soi 3.
-Checked out Bamboo and Grace Hotel on Soi 3.
-Didn't see anyone I liked and it looked like the night was going to be over.
-3 am. Didn't feel like sleeping so I walked down Sumhkivit.
-Saw this half Chinese / thai MILF. 40 years old great body sitting down.
-2000 bhat for short term.
-3 am to 6 am (since I had to leave at 6 am to go to airport)
-Girls wait around until metro opens at 5:30 am.
Did not check out Nana Liquid club or Nana Hotel or any massage places.
All 3 girls I met gave me their numbers.
So how did I do?
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1230683]Bankok Report-
So how did I do?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you did pretty well in just a few days. Lots more areas, so get them next time.
Three weeks vacation – Bangkok – Siem Reap – Phnom Penh – Vientienne – Northern Thailand (mates house) – Pattaya.
Thoughts on Bangkok.
1. Took express train into the City and then a taxi. A good way to travel but not if you have a lot of luggage as there is quite a walk. Total cost about B210.
2. 4 night stay, in Citadines Soi 11. A very nice hotel about 500 m from Nan Station and equidistant Nan Plaza and Soi Cowboy. No problem bringing ladies back – not even a question.
3. After long flight via Istanbul got in to the hotel at about 1 pm. Straight out, walked about 300 m and massage no 1. A great thing after a long flight. Not the best looking masseuse but good massage with happy ending and plenty of touching. 6/10. I then wandered around a bit before getting a bit of shut eye.
4. Into Nan Plaza at 7. 30 and looked around. I quickly learnt that it was easy to spot LBs so that was one worry to cross off my list. Its horses for courses and I doubt even if pissed you could not spot the difference.
5. I ended up in Spanky's bar, up the first set of steps and it is the first bar. I had read that there is no nudity in the bars – not the case in Spanky's where the girls at the front of the stage are fully nude and every 30 minutes or so there is an erotic show. I got talking to one beauty but I really was tired and after a few beers (it was now past midnight) I set off back.
6. Running the gauntlet of freelancers along Sukhumvit including some Africa ladies. I thought I was home but the first massage place on Soi 11 was open and the lady very tempting. In I go to come out after a hour after BBBJ and FS. 8/10.
7. Woke up feeling rough and tired and I went for a walk late morning; Soi Cowboy very quiet at that time. Walked up the Soi which it goes on to and wandered past the various MPs. I was attracted to one lady sat outside and went in – no FS (we didn't have a condom between us) but everything else. It all started very coy and developed as we found a mutual attraction. 9/10. I was tempted to go back later on – but I have a policy of never repeating.
8. Went for a nap then back up to Soi Cowboy. Into Baccaras where I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Two stages – one downstairs with two teams of about 20 girls taking turns dancing and similar upstairs. No knickers worn and upstairs one of the two team without bras. These women are beautiful and I can hardly wait to get to the sister club in Pattaya this time next week. I still didn't fancy a bar fine so after chatting to a couple and wrapping my hands round their delicious backsides, and after looking at a couple of other bars I went to look for Dr BJ.
9. Dr BJ – another posted asked what the difference was between a nurse and a consultant – apart from the price (700 v 1, 000) I would say between 10 and 15 kg. I took two nurses; just to cross it off my list I guess. Quite pleasant but not great. I wouldn't go back. 4/10. (I just read another posters experience in Dr BJ with a nurse. That would be the dark haired one with surprisingly nice firm breasts).
10. I was well tired the beginning of the third day and I slept a lot of it before venturing out to Nan Plaza again – planning to BF the girl who I had chatted to. Nipples to die for and beads in her hair. But she was sat with someone when I went in and I couldn't catch her eye. So I was watching the girls on stage including a very attractive nude one who looked young. I invited her for a drink. So we sat about 2 hours as she occasionally got up to dance including a single number. She was 19. She asked me to BF her but I said she was too young and I still wanted to try the other lady but she was occupied. Eventually I said Ok let's do it and I took her back to the hotel. We talk about GFE – this was the real Maccoy – just lovely – she really enjoyed the sex (a lot of orgasms) and we had a second round about 4 in the morning. 10/10. Before she left I mentioned that her English accent was good. She said that she had had a US boy friend for a few months and he had been sending her BH 40, 000 a month for her, mum and two brothers. But she kept on doing the bar work when he was away."then he cheated on me" "How"?"He came to Bangkok without telling me and found me dancing and was angry and now I am sad"
11. Getting more tired by the day I read by the pool for a few hours then ventured out, thinking about a soapy or a Nuru massage. I was thinking Colonize but couldn't be bothered the travel so went to look for Annie's. Went in and what a disappointment – about 8 ladies but pole barge touch greased wouldn't sprang to mind and I left. They just did not look nice. Yuk.
12. I wandered up to Darling. Now I had only been in Bangkok once previously and that in 1987 when you could see the Darling sign from Sukhumvit and I was by coincidence also in a Soi 11 hotel – the Ambassador. As far as I could recall nothing had changed in Darling – to the extent that the girl I went with then had a bad cold and gave it to me and the same happened this time. Only two 'girls' in the bowl – I chose one and went up for a BBBJ, CIM and then FS. 4/10 Nothing to write home about. Went back to the hotel at 7 pm and then slept for 12 hours!
13. Up the next morning and took a taxi to airport (400 + 100 as he was honest) and set off to Siem Reap.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1230615]In my experience also, not so many [b]regular[/b] Thai girls are keen to cop a load in the mouth, unless they are very experienced sexually. Also inexperienced girls can get jaw-ache very easily from taking a big cock in a small mouth, purely due to the lack of practice in doing so (opening very wide for an extended period). Of course girls can be trained to give better blow jobs over time. Best to get your GF to give a short BJ before sex each time, and regularly, to get her used to it. Better to promise not to cum in her mouth so she is not scared its going to happen. Note that it also takes a lot of practice for girls to be able to deep throat (overcome the gag reflex). There are many girls who would not even consider copping a load in the mouth. Working girls do it because they need the money, and know they have to try to provide whatever the other working girls provide or risk losing customers. A GF doesn't feel she is under that pressure.
Your solution of out-sourcing to get great blow-jobs is a good one. The risk of picking up STDs (like Chlamydia or Gonorreah.) from a BBBJ is considerly less than from BB sex (but feintly possible). Wash your dick and hands throughly after BBBJ to minimise the risk. Pick girls that seem to attend to hygene too.[/QUOTE]Normal regular girls do not like extended BJ depending on their sexual experience. In USA it is kind of normal for girls to do BJ. They get their experience in the car when they are young. Girls do want to protect their virginity and just make BF happy by BJ although CIM is not common.
I have had many Asian normal girlfriends but they seldom did BJ for long time. But they do like sex in different positions. Even working young girls do not like BJ. Some think it is dirty.
It is better not force your gf to do BJ as you said you have good sex together.
@surf looker.
damn, some of those prices made my eyes water but then again you got to do what you got to do then get laid on suk at 3am in the morning. at least you're doing your part for global wealth redistribution. given that the only other thing you should have done is made a visit to eden on soi 7 and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] it seems a pretty good trip.
i pulled a couple of hotties (well one anyway) from the nana parking lot on soi 4 some days ago for sub 1200 but i think i was lucky (photos to come if i find out how to upload them)
still, it's your first visit and next time you'll have a more favorable learning curve.
i think that i favor pattaya over bkk as i get more lazy. while bkk has a multitude of things to do i've pretty much done them and can only do so much shopping. previously i'd bounce around thailand / cambodia / laos with short stays in bkk but this trip i've decided to stay in wholly in thailand. bkk with its traffic and heat leaves me feeling tired so i couldn't spend three weeks there. although the bj bars are superior in bkk for me pattaya is easier to access via soi 6, beach road and the odd walking street pickup given that i'm not into go go's. i would rather be near the sea as well.
My experience has been the exact opposite, Sammon. Almost all of the Asian girls I've been with paid and not have given me long, long, long BJs, and CIM much more than any head I got in the USA Maybe because I am a little bit overweight and they don't want to crush them hahaha. Of course the intercourse is good, too.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1230768]Normal regular girls do not like extended BJ depending on their sexual experience. In USA it is kind of normal for girls to do BJ. They get their experience in the car when they are young. Girls do want to protect their virginity and just make BF happy by BJ although CIM is not common.
I have had many Asian normal girlfriends but they seldom did BJ for long time. But they do like sex in different positions. Even working young girls do not like BJ. Some think it is dirty.
It is better not force your gf to do BJ as you said you have good sex together.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1230850]My experience has been the exact opposite, Sammon. Almost all of the Asian girls I've been with paid and not have given me long, long, long BJs, and CIM much more than any head I got in the USA[/QUOTE]You are right D. We debated about this a few months back when Nic Frenchy was still alive and posting.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1230683]Bankok Report-
Transportation: 530 to SOI 4 / Nana- includes tip and 70 bhat for highways. 5 pm pickup with a lot of traffic.
. Went to Soi 3- Grace Hotel- arab club / music. Few sexy arab girls but crazy numbers for short time. Left. 200 bhat to get in / gets you a drink.
. Went Thermae- 60 bhat for soda. Lots of Japanese guys. Most of the girls stand around the bar didn't see many approaching the guys. Overall nothing special, no gorgeous girls or older sexy women. Looked like most were into the Japanese guys.
. Went to Nana Plaza- all the Rainbows, Voodoo, Angelwitch. Overall all young girls. Some seem disinterested, others enjoyed dancing. Decided to pass based on bar fine and what kind of experience with the girl.
. Ended up picking slightly older girl. 26. Very pretty. Walked up and down Soi 4 bunch of times since I'm picky.
2000 bhat from 2 am to 11 am.
. Lots of Ladyboys around Soi 4 and Nana.
. Easy metro to get around, saw Grand Palace and other shrines
Next night (Saturday)
-Went up and down Soi 4.
-Went to Nana Plaza, checked out the Go-Go Bars.
-Checked out bars, Hillary, Nana Beer Garden.
-Didn't see anyone I liked. Lots of cute girls in the Go-Go, but I want bit older. 25 +
-Decided to go to Spasso. With reluctance since I knew it would be a lot more.
-Found great looking girl. 5500 BHAT for long term. She paid for taxi since I didn't have change. 32 years old, great body. Time: 1:30 Am to 12 pm afternoon.
-Total cost: 5500 bhat, and I didn't pay her back for the taxi LOL or get her breakfast nor did she ask.
Final night (Sunday)
-Same thing, up down Soi 4 and Soi 3.
-Checked out Bamboo and Grace Hotel on Soi 3.
-Didn't see anyone I liked and it looked like the night was going to be over.
-3 am. Didn't feel like sleeping so I walked down Sumhkivit.
-Saw this half Chinese / thai MILF. 40 years old great body sitting down.
-2000 bhat for short term.
-3 am to 6 am (since I had to leave at 6 am to go to airport)
-Girls wait around until metro opens at 5:30 am.
Did not check out Nana Liquid club or Nana Hotel or any massage places.
All 3 girls I met gave me their numbers.
So how did I do?[/QUOTE]Mate you paid way too much.
The rates I paid for a younger 25ish girl not stunner but ok no steetch marks tight clean BBBJ cim multiple pos all for 800 afternoon picked up along bus stop.
Even in evening the older Russian girls only ask 2000 but will take 1000. 1500 if quiet.
Same for the africans but I only ever took one as the thai talent was not good that night
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1230768]Normal regular girls do not like extended BJ depending on their sexual experience. In USA it is kind of normal for girls to do BJ. They get their experience in the car when they are young. Girls do want to protect their virginity and just make BF happy by BJ although CIM is not common.
I have had many Asian normal girlfriends but they seldom did BJ for long time. But they do like sex in different positions. Even working young girls do not like BJ. Some think it is dirty.
It is better not force your gf to do BJ as you said you have good sex together.[/QUOTE]I would agree that gals in the states are much more apt to be skilled in the oral arts than their Thai counterparts, unless the Thai gal has been "trained." Overall the availability of women in LOS is better due to P4P but I would say that women in the US tend to be "into" sex far more than you average Thai girl. Even though many Thai women are promiscuous they lack that "dirty" mind that makes sex a psychological adventure.
But obviously, as a resident for 12 years, you can see where my priorities lie.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1230884]You are right D. We debated about this a few months back when Nic Frenchy was still alive and posting.[/QUOTE]What ever happened to the Frenchy?
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1230997]What ever happened to the Frenchy?[/QUOTE]Death by BBBJCIM. He's more than fine but rarely visits as he has his hands full.
Yes I understand I paid too much but are you guys get as much time as I did for the prices (mine was like 2 am to 12 pm)
[QUOTE=Jeff Sinclair; 1230922]Mate you paid way too much.
The rates I paid for a younger 25ish girl not stunner but ok no steetch marks tight clean BBBJ cim multiple pos all for 800 afternoon picked up along bus stop.
Even in evening the older Russian girls only ask 2000 but will take 1000. 1500 if quiet.
Same for the africans but I only ever took one as the thai talent was not good that night[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surf Looker;1231012]Yes I understand I paid too much but are you guys get as much time as I did for the prices (mine was like 2 am to 12 pm)[/QUOTE]Yeah Surf. You eventually learn how to TELL the girls how much you are going to give them and how long they are going to stay.
Good to know. Well had a great time.
Where I been:
Bangkok-for the money and cost and girls, this place is the best.
Singapore- Orchard Street great time, price not too bad.
Hong Kong- not bad either. But both Singapore / HK can't compare in terms of prices with Bangkok.
Sao Paulo- gorgeous women but still more than Singapore / HK and Bangkok if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1231089]Yeah Surf. You eventually learn how to TELL the girls how much you are going to give them and how long they are going to stay.[/QUOTE]
Last week I went with a friend in Nana. Plan was to have a couple of drinks and to bar-fine girls if we were finding what we wanted. We decided to start with a new bar that has opened in Nana; the Straps, in the second floor. Well it is a very small venue with girls dancing on the bar. Six of them when we went there and I have to say all of them very goor on the 7-9 scale. I noticed a cute girl dancing in the bar, the mamasan asked me if I can buy her a drink and I said yes. While I agreed to the drink is seemd to me that the girls is really too goung but in Thailand you neven know. I mean my new personall assistant in the office is 32 but when I hired her 6 moths ago I could not believe her age. She is not looking more than 25! Anyway, back to Straps girl. She is coming to my place, has her drink and starts dancing in front of me. Takes my hand put it to her belly and I can feel a skin that it so so tight and fresh. It was only 5 minutes after she was drinking with me and asked me if we can spend the night together. I asked her imediatelly how old is she to get the reply that she is 17 (so she was probably 16 I thought). Took my hands of her belly, told to me friend that we have to leave, asked for the bill and I left the place. Sorry I know I can not talk about morality myself but minors is not something I've ever done or I'll do.
Next stop at Spankies. Crazy! As always. My friend has a regular there. A very cute girl with a Japanese face. We sat for a drink but the place was so packed that we left after a first drink.
Billboard. That was the last of the night. Lot of people also, we sat at a table, and after some minutes I spoted a lovely girl at her late twenties, early thirties (she was 29 as she told me later). Although I bar fined her I can not remember her name but I think she was number 65. We went for ST at 1500. Very nice experience almost GFE, with lot of kising, multiple possitions, BBJ etc. Very nice body and tight pussy. Reccomended althoug she told me that she is working few nights per month there since she has an American BF that sends money and she is working only when she has "extra expenses" to cover.
[QUOTE=Lifeingr; 1231120]. I asked her imediatelly how old is she to get the reply that she is 17 (so she was probably 16 I thought). Took my hands of her belly, told to me friend that we have to leave, asked for the bill and I left the place. Sorry I know I can not talk about morality myself but minors is not something I've ever done or I'll do.
Good for you for leaving. Smart move.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1230768]Normal regular girls do not like extended BJ depending on their sexual experience. In USA it is kind of normal for girls to do BJ. They get their experience in the car when they are young. Girls do want to protect their virginity and just make BF happy by BJ although CIM is not common.
I have had many Asian normal girlfriends but they seldom did BJ for long time. But they do like sex in different positions. Even working young girls do not like BJ. Some think it is dirty.
It is better not force your gf to do BJ as you said you have good sex together.[/QUOTE]Asian girls do give good slow long BJ's. However as anyone who has been in Asia some time should know, Asian, and Thai girls in particular, are much "cleaner" than western girls and are less accepting of "dirty" farang men.
Speaking Thai I can let you into a few secrets :
If you keep you pubic hair trimmed down, neat and tidy, if you keep your dick washed and smelling nice. Then the girls will not worry about giving you a BJ (think of muff diving a hairy pussy thats stinking, yes, you would not be down there very long).
The girl has to like you as a person. If you are 65, sweaty, overweight and taking a 25 year old girl. Do not expect a nice BJ (think of yourself muff diving a 65 year old granny. Yes, its the same for the girls with older and ugly men).
If you are a guy who "leaks" early then you will find the girl stopping giving you a BJ early. They do not like men who leak pre-cum by the buckets (that is the same girls who will not do CIM).
CIM is possible more often than you would think, but only if the girl likes you, and thats the key point, the girl has to like you and then she will give you BBBJ and CIM.
Reached Bangkok last wed from Pattaya (report in the Pattaya section) and stayed at The Ambassador at Soi 11.
After RTFF, I had shortlisted.
1. Mango.
2. Snow white. These 2 are oily massages with BBBJ.
3. Nana Plaza.
4. Soi Cowboy.
5. Dr BJ or Lolipop.
1. Mango Massage. This is very near to the Perom phren station. Chris was mentioned a lot of times in the forum and hence asked for her but apparently she has stopped working and hence looked around and picked a girl named Pim. Short girl with dentures.
Excellent service with BBBJ / CIM, shower and then oily body to body massage and then Anal rimming for 20 minutes and another shot. Wonderful 90 minutes for 2100.
Recommended highly.
2. Snow white. This was on the last day of the visit and had a plane to catch in the evening. Called for June (mentioned in the forum) and took her even wothout looking at her properly. She was tall but too skinny and very small tits. Had BBJ and CIM but post that the massage wasnt good enough and had to just pass the time with a beer. Too skinny for my liking with bones hitting everywhere!
3. Nana Plaza. Spankys is the best place. My learning is that if you are not interested in Barfining (I was not as I was staying with a friend). Its better to go a bit early around 9-10pm and have fun. You have to spend on LD but at 150 a drink and even if you spend 4-5 of them for 2-3 hours. Its worth it with the kind of dance you can have on your lap and everything else. Try.
4. Soi cowboy. Not very good. Nothing special in the 2 gogos visited.
5. Lolipop1. This is in between Asok and Nana stations. Can be visited just for the sake of it. BJ for 700 and girls are on scale 4-7.
BJ was good though!
Could not try a saopy which would have completed all possibilities in Bangkok.
Have Fun!
[QUOTE=LickItOut; 1230116]Dear Friends,
I am considered a newbie in ISG forum. I happened to find info about the infamous BJ bar SOL and found a good deal of info about this place in the forum. BTW, I am also a great fan of this place. I will be in Bangkok in about a month and I am planning to spend time in there. I have some questions that I couldn't find the answer for in the forum. I would be glad if you help me find the answers:
- I am an exhibitionist kind of guy. And I only enjoy public sex when both my partner and I are totally nude. Is it possible for me and my girl to get fully nude in SOL in front of the others and fuck each other?
- I heard that anal sex is also possible in the bar. Do all the girls provide anal sex by default in the so-called boom-boom mode or should I check / ask the girl whether she'll do it or not?
- In other posts by senior forum members it has been stated several times that bareback sex is also possible in SOL. Generally, how safe is it to go bareback with girls in SOL? IMHO, most of the time they only do blow jobs which is less likely to transmit HIV or other severe STDs so the risk should be relatively lower comparing to go-go girls. Am I right? Do they test for HIV and other STDs on a regular basis?
- And at last, should I give the tip to the girl? Or should I give the tip on top of my bill to the bar tender?
I would be grateful if you answer my questions.
Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Dear Friend,
Just to answer your questions in part:
1. Understand your feelings of exhibiting yourself in the public of a place like SOL.
Of course you can get rid off all your dress and enjoy the girl naked. The girl also will get naked when you like it.
Take a seat on one of the two sofas in front of the bar desk.
2. Anal is not within the regular programme but they do it from time to time. However, you have to negotiate individually.
3. Bareback of course is no problem. I had it in most times and the girls also enjoy.
When you ask for "risk", of course you should keep in mind that it will be potentially risky. They pretend to have the girls checked for HIV and STD, but I never saw a document from hospital or so. You have to consider the "price / value" relation, but BB full service with a naked girl in the public is really unique.
4. Tip always should go to the girl individually, not to the cashier.
And now, go there, f. Ck and enjoy!
FV
Surferdude, if you want a bargain and a GFE go to PI or Cambodia. I love the girls there. Especially PI. Vietnam is good, too, but a little trickier because you can't always bring them to your hotel. I had a girl from Sao Paulo (in Rio) many years ago that I still think about. A busty black girl who was a real nasty porn queen. Geez what a. Memory. She loved to be filmed and never stopped giving me exceptional service with that loving "give it to me" look.
[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1231112]Good to know. Well had a great time.
Where I been:
Bangkok-for the money and cost and girls, this place is the best.
Singapore- Orchard Street great time, price not too bad.
Hong Kong- not bad either. But both Singapore / HK can't compare in terms of prices with Bangkok.
Sao Paulo- gorgeous women but still more than Singapore / HK and Bangkok if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1231334]Surferdude, if you want a bargain and a GFE go to PI or Cambodia. I love the girls there. Especially PI. Vietnam is good, too, but a little trickier because you can't always bring them to your hotel. I had a girl from Sao Paulo (in Rio) many years ago that I still think about. A busty black girl who was a real nasty porn queen. Geez what a. Memory. She loved to be filmed and never stopped giving me exceptional service with that loving "give it to me" look.[/QUOTE]Orchard Road in Sing. Is a rip off. Geylang is the best place for pussy.
Vietnam and Cambodia? You are kidding. They do not even compare to Thailand, not close. The Cambo girls don't know how to suck a cock. Vietnam? Very limited. If you get to know a few of the locals they can set you up. They all pale to Thailand.
the best bbbjcim i have received in recent years was from a half-cambodian, half-vietnamese woman. she sucked me off like a lollipop three times to completion in 75 minutes right before i left for the airport. she's the main reason i continued to go to work there twice a year. then she got greedy and started hitting me up for big bucks so i dumped her. the women at benny's in ho chi minh city are way better at this and way better looking than the women at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bangkok, another example. and the women in the pi have also been great and much cheaper than bkk, many ofthem freebies. so, i guess indivual experiences will vary, lp. never been to singapore and don't want to.
[quote=luvpuss; 1231559]orchard road in sing. is a rip off. geylang is the best place for pussy.
vietnam and cambodia? you are kidding. they do not even compare to thailand, not close. the cambo girls don't know how to suck a cock. vietnam? very limited. if you get to know a few of the locals they can set you up. they all pale to thailand.[/quote]
[quote=d cups;1231707]the best bbbjcim i have received in recent years was from a half-cambodian, half-vietnamese woman. she sucked me off like a lollipop three times to completion in 75 minutes right before i left for the airport. she's the main reason i continued to go to work there twice a year. then she got greedy and started hitting me up for big bucks so i dumped her. the women at benny's in ho chi minh city are way better at this and way better looking than the women at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bangkok, another example. and the women in the pi have also been great and much cheaper than bkk, many ofthem freebies. so, i guess indivual experiences will vary, lp. never been to singapore and don't want to.[/quote]no problem. if you had steady girl who takes care of you that is great. i just found the women there not too willing to do things. maybe they did not like me.
have you been to smiley's in hcmc? not bad.
also, if you do think about singapore just for mongering, don't. it is not on par with these other places.
how much do you guys tip at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s? the bin for a bj and a drink is 775 baht. giving 225 tip is not common, is it?
[quote=tommyh80;1231734]how much do you guys tip at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s? the bin for a bj and a drink is 775 baht. giving 225 tip is not common, is it?[/quote]100 bht for exceptional performance.
200 bht for the above and cim.
as i'm earning aud it isn't such a burden. i might actually mention the tip beforehand to encourage performance.
as i've mongered in cambodia, vietnam, singapore and gaylang, hk, malaysia and china i feel the need to weigh in. while cambodia and vietnam may be cheaper for myself its the ease of mongering which draws me to thailand as well as the cost of accommodation, the food and essentials like alcohol and cigarettes as well as more extreme venues like eden/devils den. maybe if i worked in cambodia or vietnam i would have the time to invest in obtaining actionable on-the-ground intelligence but sadly i don't which makes thailand the easier option.
i've yet to make it to pi yet but maybe because english proficiency is a more prevalent then it could make for a more enjoyable experience with the girl.
[quote=pointy stick; 1231738]100 bht for exceptional performance.
200 bht for the above and cim.
as i'm earning aud it isn't such a burden. i might actually mention the tip beforehand to encourage performance.[/quote]have you ever experienced a bj a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s without cim? i haven't. i guess i should tip the girls 200 baht then if this is the norm.
[quote=tommyh80;1231741]have you ever experienced a bj a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s without cim? i haven't. i guess i should tip the girls 200 baht then if this is the norm.[/quote]yeah i have but i'm too much of a prude to ask a girl if i can bust a fat ass nut in her mouth in front of the others but i'm slowly weaning myself off this.
strangely enough i was at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] last week and the girl i chose remembered me from last year. i have a bad enough memory as it is but for her to remember me from thousand of other blow jobs is outstanding as i'm not exactly hugely endowed or anything memorable.
as i'm planning on a three header to commerate the new year does anybody know how much it costs to rent a room there for the deed?
[quote=pointy stick; 1231746]yeah i have but i'm too much of a prude to ask a girl if i can bust a fat ass nut in her mouth in front of the others but i'm slowly weaning myself off this.
strangely enough i was at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] last week and the girl i chose remembered me from last year. i have a bad enough memory as it is but for her to remember me from thousand of other blow jobs is outstanding as i'm not exactly hugely endowed or anything memorable.
as i'm planning on a three header to commerate the new year does anybody know how much it costs to rent a room there for the deed?[/quote]the fs rooms are one floor up from the bj level. it is 1650 for one hour fs with a shower in the room. i actually banged my girl in the bj curtain area first. kind of like a test run. she was great, so i came back the next day and took her for fs. 1650 is high, i know. but, she was a total gfe and a lot of fun.
also, just for info, the takeaway bf at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is 5000 baht. a total rip off and no way in hell worth it.
At Bangkok's airport I always notice flight attendants carrying a certain brand of orchids in a white box. Where can I get these? I found an orchid shop in the airport, in the middle of an intersection by the gates, but they didn't carry these white boxes.
[quote=tommyh80;1231734]how much do you guys tip at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s? the bin for a bj and a drink is 775 baht. giving 225 tip is not common, is it?[/quote]i asked the girl to rim me first and she said ok, you tip me good. i said 300 and away we went.
i was walking past the lollipop on soi 10 last night. they had a small selection but a couple were fairly cute. i asked for the same combo as above and the cutie led me to the hardened pro. she said "yes, no problem. 2,000 baht" after that ridiculous answer i was going to take the girl for just the bj but felt kinda silly then with 4 ladies laughing at me, so i left.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1231805]At Bangkok's airport I always notice flight attendants carrying a certain brand of orchids in a white box. Where can I get these? I found an orchid shop in the airport, in the middle of an intersection by the gates, but they didn't carry these white boxes.[/QUOTE]Thai Air gives them out to ladies at the end of the flight. So it would probably be the same as asking where you could get one of those great Thai Air meals, blankets, or headsets.
Gogo bars often offer draught beer at low prices. Is this beer made with dirty, non-bottled water?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1231805]At Bangkok's airport I always notice flight attendants carrying a certain brand of orchids in a white box. Where can I get these? I found an orchid shop in the airport, in the middle of an intersection by the gates, but they didn't carry these white boxes.[/QUOTE]They have various size boxes sold at plenty of the shops in the airport. Just a case of walking around or if that is too much hard work then ask someone.
This is one of the typical boxes of orchids you can get at the airport shops.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1231931]Gogo bars often offer draught beer at low prices. Is this beer made with dirty, non-bottled water?[/QUOTE]What do you define as dirty?
Do they use tap water (which in Thailand is ok to drink)?
Do they use Klong water from the canals, which is pretty dirty?
Do they use Evian water to brew the beer with?
The only dirty water I would not want them to make beer with is the dirty water that that accumulates in my scrotal sac (and well yes, the Klong water would not be good for beer as well).
[quote=tommyh80;1231734]how much do you guys tip at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s? the bin for a bj and a drink is 775 baht. giving 225 tip is not common, is it?[/quote]the 700 baht is an all in price. no need to tip.
however most people give over a 1000 baht note at the end, which pays for the girl, a drink and then the change from the 1000 baht they give to the girl directly (so around 225 baht yes).
you must always remember in thailand the following :
if you leave a tip in the tray / folder after getting your change back that tip is shared between all staff.
if you hand a tip directly to the girl / server, and leave a few coins in the tray she can keep all you give to her, and what is left in the tray, if any, is for sharing with the other staff.
so many farangs have no idea on this and you can see the server in a bar cringe when a customer leaves say 100 baht as a tip for good service, but leaves in on the tray and does not hand it to her directly.
[quote=stakeout;1231931]gogo bars often offer draught beer at low prices. is this beer made with dirty, non-bottled water?[/quote]not at all, they scrape the sweat of the dancers and put that in your glass.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1231931]Gogo bars often offer draught beer at low prices. Is this beer made with dirty, non-bottled water?[/QUOTE]Beer is made by a boiling process, so no, the water is not water from the tap. Any beer in Thailand you can drink with knowledge you will not come down with the shits from it. That said from time to time the brewers are a little thai in their work practices, Singha beer is well known for having a touch more formeldahyde than necessary in their water, and the previous makers of a german beer used to stuff up the alchohol content severely so, up to 12% in some instances.
Of course any bar owner can opt for watering down the draft beer like some dodgy places in the west do, maybe that's why I always drink bottled.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1231891]Thai Air gives them out to ladies at the end of the flight. So it would probably be the same as asking where you could get one of those great Thai Air meals, blankets, or headsets.[/QUOTE]That's not what he's asking about. I work for an airline (not flying) and the hosties and flight crew nearly always come back from BKK carrying boxed arrangements of orchids, not carrying one wilting bloom handed out by a Thai Airways hostie at the end of the flight.
Sorry, don't know where they get them but if you want orchids to take home to the wife just go to a flower shop (not THE Flower Shop). I don't know why the colour of the box should make a difference.
Hi LP. Smiley's is one of my favorite bars in HCMC. Maybe you too have been up on the third floor pool room with Mai. I swear she has the biggest boobs in Vietnam and they are all natural, my friends. Not fat, either. Sucks a mean dick, too. She is pricey but if you want the boobs sometimes you have to pay extra. I always bring her a nice 36 D bra from Victoria's Secret because she has trouble finding ones that fit from Vietnam. I think I posted some photos of her a couple of years ago.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1231715]No problem. If you had steady girl who takes care of you that is great. I just found the women there not too willing to do things. Maybe they did not like me.
Have you been to Smiley's in HCMC? Not bad.
Also, if you do think about Singapore just for mongering, don't. It is not on par with these other places.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1232028]Hi LP. Smiley's is one of my favorite bars in HCMC. Maybe you too have been up on the third floor pool room with Mai. I swear she has the biggest boobs in Vietnam and they are all natural, my friends. Not fat, either. Sucks a mean dick, too. She is pricey but if you want the boobs sometimes you have to pay extra. I always bring her a nice 36 D bra from Victoria's Secret because she has trouble finding ones that fit from Vietnam. I think I posted some photos of her a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah, I think I had her. Sexy and friendly with nice smile? I sat on the stool in the pool room 2 days in a row and she blew me while sticking a finger in my ass. She was awesome and someone I will not forget. You are right also, a little pricey, but damn good.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1225631]Two sisters, two individual great experiences.
One wanted tojoin the other at some point: do you think the 3-some would have of similar high standard?
There are positive expamples, but often two girls seldom inter-act together, go imagine two (real) sisters.
Just giving some thoughts, maybe your denial did good to you.[/QUOTE]Just to let you know girls in Asia call their cousins sisters or even a good friend.
[QUOTE=The Pro;1231940]tap water (which in Thailand is ok to drink)?[/QUOTE]Is it really?
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam; 1232022]That's not what he's asking about. I work for an airline (not flying) and the hosties and flight crew nearly always come back from BKK carrying boxed arrangements of orchids, not carrying one wilting bloom handed out by a Thai Airways hostie at the end of the flight.
Sorry, don't know where they get them but if you want orchids to take home to the wife just go to a flower shop (not THE Flower Shop). I don't know why the colour of the box should make a difference.[/QUOTE]The Thai orchid market is across from the Chatachuk (check my spelling) weekend market and is accessible from BTS.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1232196]Just to let you know girls in Asia call their cousins sisters or even a good friend.[/QUOTE]This indeed I know, somehow in Asia the term "sister" is [I]abused[/I] Compared to the western meaning.
Still it is to be seen in the contest as sometime there might be real (blood) sisters in the business. That might have been the case.
It is of course also up to us, when reporting, use the term as appropriate and not as mentioned by the girls themselves as all are sisters, then.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232259]This indeed I know, somehow in Asia the term "sister" is [I]abused[/I] Compared to the western meaning.
Still it is to be seen in the contest as sometime there might be real (blood) sisters in the business. That might have been the case.
It is of course also up to us, when reporting, use the term as appropriate and not as mentioned by the girls themselves as all are sisters, then.[/QUOTE]African Americans use it differently also. Just saying.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam; 1232022]That's not what he's asking about. I work for an airline (not flying) and the hosties and flight crew nearly always come back from BKK carrying boxed arrangements of orchids, not carrying one wilting bloom handed out by a Thai Airways hostie at the end of the flight.
Sorry, don't know where they get them but if you want orchids to take home to the wife just go to a flower shop (not THE Flower Shop). I don't know why the colour of the box should make a difference.[/QUOTE]Is this really the place to be talking about where the airlines get their flowers? My god! Anyways I will report on my recent visit to Nataree. It seems there are two sides to this massage place. Left side has a fish bowl with about 5-10 ladies. The popa son asks for too much in the beginning. After I tell him I know the true pricing it turns to 1200 baht. I don't know whether massage, soapy, oily, or just sex. I ask him what's on the other side. He says prices are 4000 ha ha. I say no problem I will still check it out. I enter the right side and their are maybe 100 sideline girls and 10 in fish bowl. Popa son very straight forward with pricing which I like and BTW not 4000 LOL. Order a beer and survey the room a bit. I decide on a girl in the fish bowl. Cute face, nice tits, about 28 I guess, white skin. Pay the 2000 baht and up the lift we go. Rooms are not bad as described by some members here. Big tub, nice bed, mirrors on the wall and ceiling. We start off with nice soapy massage. Then a rinse in the tub after. No BBBJ disappointing! Nice FS in all positions. Service in general a bit mechanical on the massage. FS not GFE but enjoyable. I won't repeat the soapy but will go back and try a sideline girl. Best selection of white skinned girls I have saw in BKK, including Soi Cowboy!
Hi BJ here.
I had the funniest taxi ride the other day, either in Bangkok or anywhere else for that matter. I was escorting a friend of mine to the immigration service. We took the BTS to Mo Chit and got a taxi the rest of the way, but decided to take a taxi from outside back to Sukhumvit. I reckon the driver to be in his late fifties with a weathered look to his face but he had one of the chirpiest and positive attitudes I have seen in a very long time. He had me and my friend in stitches all the way back which made the journey and traffic jams seem irrelevant.
He frankly amazed me with his extensive knowledge of politics, economic trends and in particular history. He was reeling off previous Israeli prime ministers and talking about the Palestinian situation. Then he talked for a good deal of time about America, Obama and the Euro zone crisis.
He started asking us about go-go bars, soapies and other forms of p4p. We tried to pretend that we were good boys and didn't indulge in that sort of thing. This just made him laugh and tell us we were lying. His attitude was coming to Bangkok and not trying p4p was akin to going to a restaurant when you were really hungry and reading the menu, which added to the hilarity of the whole experience.
To be honest I rarely like talking to cab drivers whether it's in Thailand or back in London 'cor blimey mate you wouldn't believe who I had in my cab the other day' blah, blah, blah. But this guy was a breath of fresh air and then some. I was so impressed I tipped him 100 baht and thanked him for the entertainment, what a guy!
Regards BJ
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1231805]At Bangkok's airport I always notice flight attendants carrying a certain brand of orchids in a white box. Where can I get these? I found an orchid shop in the airport, in the middle of an intersection by the gates, but they didn't carry these white boxes.[/QUOTE]There is the HUGE flower market down around chinatown? (not sure of exact location as my tgf was in tow). It uis a sight + scents to see in itself!
It does not get going till late. Maybe around midnite.
I am sure you arrange to have something packaged for your departure, even use your hotel's commercial if neccessary ($'s tip to reception can take care of anything)
But be carefull. Depending what country you are flying back into, these could be considered. Do not pass customs.
MTG
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1232334]Hi BJ here.
I had the funniest taxi ride the other day, either in Bangkok or anywhere else for that matter. I was escorting a friend of mine to the immigration service. We took the BTS to Mo Chit and got a taxi the rest of the way, but decided to take a taxi from outside back to Sukhumvit. I reckon the driver to be in his late fifties with a weathered look to his face but he had one of the chirpiest and positive attitudes I have seen in a very long time. He had me and my friend in stitches all the way back which made the journey and traffic jams seem irrelevant.
He frankly amazed me with his extensive knowledge of politics, economic trends and in particular history. He was reeling off previous Israeli prime ministers and talking about the Palestinian situation. Then he talked for a good deal of time about America, Obama and the Euro zone crisis.
He started asking us about go-go bars, soapies and other forms of p4p. We tried to pretend that we were good boys and didn't indulge in that sort of thing. This just made him laugh and tell us we were lying. His attitude was coming to Bangkok and not trying p4p was akin to going to a restaurant when you were really hungry and reading the menu, which added to the hilarity of the whole experience.
To be honest I rarely like talking to cab drivers whether it's in Thailand or back in London 'cor blimey mate you wouldn't believe who I had in my cab the other day' blah, blah, blah. But this guy was a breath of fresh air and then some. I was so impressed I tipped him 100 baht and thanked him for the entertainment, what a guy!
Regards BJ[/QUOTE]Hey Doc! Your post in my opinion should go in the general reports or Thailand expat forum but we can make an exception for you I think LOL. Love all your contributions to date. I plan to make it down to your place very soon.
Cheers
[QUOTE=MilesToGo; 1232345]There is the HUGE flower market down around chinatown? (not sure of exact location as my tgf was in tow). It uis a sight + scents to see in itself!
It does not get going till late. Maybe around midnite.
I am sure you arrange to have something packaged for your departure, even use your hotel's commercial if neccessary ($'s tip to reception can take care of anything)
But be carefull. Depending what country you are flying back into, these could be considered. Do not pass customs.
MTG[/QUOTE]How about a report on Orchids the massage or Go go. Is there a place called that? LOL
When to Sharkey's Friday night. Wanted to check out the less popular places. Said she was 22 but later found out 30 but you could not tell at all. Firm titties, nice ass, and a cute face. Decided to go to climax for a few beers first. What a girl. All over me like crazy! I could not take it anymore so we left and headed back to my place. At this point she was really drunk! What a GFE. Only stayed two hours but she fucks like a mink in heat. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the ruff!
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1232200]Is it really?[/QUOTE]Since before 2007.
[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/07/01/opinion/opinion_30038826.php[/url]
Of course, as the article notes, those companies that sell bottled water will continue to market the scare stories, after all, selling water in bottles is their business, if everyone drunk tap water they would be out of business.
Simple really.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1232200]Is it really?[/QUOTE]One should check the water at the tap end, not much at the provider end where on principle it should be drinkable.
Often the pipings are debatable.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232601]One should check the water at the tap end, not much at the provider end where on principle it should be drinkable.
Often the pipings are debatable.[/QUOTE]Your inane posts always remind me of the Dustin Hoffman character in Rainman so again, I give up. How does "one" check the water at the tap end in BKK!
And what "principle" is in effect at the provider end?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1232626]Your inane posts always remind me of the Dustin Hoffman character in Rainman so again, I give up. How does "one" check the water at the tap end in BKK!
And what "principle" is in effect at the provider end?[/QUOTE]I did not say you have to literally check the water, but the statements of the water supply companies are based on checks done at the origin of the supply, ie the water they out in the system. At that point it is, on principle, safe water. What comes out at the other end is debatable. That is out of control of the water supplier.
"on principle", means that the parameters set by the national health authority are met or supposed to be met.
The monitoring is frequent but not constant.
Do not also forget that every human body is used to a certain type and amount of bacteria based on his standard living and country of origin.
It is well known that a local water can give a foreigner some health troubles and doesn't harm at all the locals, or very few.
It goes also down to the sensibility of each individual.
This has nothing to do with health quality of the supplied water.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232632]I did not say you have to literally check the water, but the statements of the water supply companies are based on checks done at the origin of the supply, ie the water they out in the system. At that point it is, on principle, safe water. What comes out at the other end is debatable. That is out of control of the water supplier.
"on principle", means that the parameters set by the national health authority are met or supposed to be met.
The monitoring is frequent but not constant.
Do not also forget that every human body is used to a certain type and amount of bacteria based on his standard living and country of origin.
It is well known that a local water can give a foreigner some health troubles and doesn't harm at all the locals, or very few.
It goes also down to the sensibility of each individual.
This has nothing to do with health quality of the supplied water.[/QUOTE]Just as I thought. And I bet you think you are a "very good driver" as well.
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I don't know about all the science that is being thrown around regarding tap water in Bangkok and I've been living here for sometime not BKK but I'm not going to drink the water when I have never seen a local drink it. A quick question? If some of you have been to Hong Kong and Bangkok what City would you drink out of the tap and feel safe? I would think Hong Kong but a few years ago I forgot where I was and drank tap water a few times and the maid told me you shouldn't do that. A day or so later I got real sick shaking sick with chills. I went to the doctor a British nearby and she told me " don't drink the water ".
Now that was Hong Kong, a few years ago and I'm sure things have changed but how much I won't take the chance again I went to Bangkok / Pattaya hospital to have a large cut addressed and after the doctor told me to cover it when I take a shower and to use bottle water or boil water after it cool to wash the area. I ask him why and he explained that although it looks clean but the water in Thailand has lots of chemicals and your cut will heal faster and the skin will heal more normal. Now I'm in Pattaya but I don't think the system in BKK is much different that what Pattaya has?
In the end, to each his own but personally I wouldn't! A few weeks ago after all these years here I got the stomach flu or something and my toilet wasn't pretty.
Good luck with the water fellas?
LBM
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232632]I did not say you have to literally check the water, but the statements of the water supply companies are based on checks done at the origin of the supply, ie the water they out in the system. At that point it is, on principle, safe water. What comes out at the other end is debatable. That is out of control of the water supplier.
"on principle", means that the parameters set by the national health authority are met or supposed to be met.
The monitoring is frequent but not constant.
Do not also forget that every human body is used to a certain type and amount of bacteria based on his standard living and country of origin.
It is well known that a local water can give a foreigner some health troubles and doesn't harm at all the locals, or very few.
It goes also down to the sensibility of each individual.
This has nothing to do with health quality of the supplied water.[/QUOTE]Gents,
The water running tap in Bangkok is went through a water treatment facility for purified process. The water from underground wells pump into the treament tank for added chemical to elimitate all harmful bacterias. After all done, the water then pump into the consumers piping grid. The tap water is not taste good because of the
Purified chemical its contain. You can drink it, however, I only drink bottle water from 7-11 store
One other thing on the water. I have gotten sick twice in Pattaya. Both times I am sure it was because I drank a drink with ice in the glass. I thought the first time was a fluke, but damn, if it did not happen a few months later. It screwed up several days of both trips.
For those who still don't get it, head over to the Nibu Raphael thread for a more detailed explanation and complete analysis.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232632]I did not say you have to literally check the water, but the statements of the water supply companies are based on checks done at the origin of the supply, ie the water they out in the system. At that point it is, on principle, safe water. What comes out at the other end is debatable. That is out of control of the water supplier.
"on principle", means that the parameters set by the national health authority are met or supposed to be met.
The monitoring is frequent but not constant.
Do not also forget that every human body is used to a certain type and amount of bacteria based on his standard living and country of origin.
It is well known that a local water can give a foreigner some health troubles and doesn't harm at all the locals, or very few.
It goes also down to the sensibility of each individual.
This has nothing to do with health quality of the supplied water.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1232299]Is this really the place to be talking about where the airlines get their flowers? My god![/QUOTE]Somebody asked a question, they got an answer. Get over it.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1232690]I don't know about all the science that is being thrown around regarding tap water in Bangkok
LBM[/QUOTE]Not necessarily the "science" belongs to BKK. It is applicable all over the world, more in some countries I do not want to label them as the definition might be restrictive.
The bottled water companies might have some influence to pursue their own interests, but do not have it to the extent of getting somebody sick when he drinks tap water or use ice coming from that.
And that happens! We all know that. Period.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1232703]One other thing on the water. I have gotten sick twice in Pattaya. Both times I am sure it was because I drank a drink with ice in the glass. I thought the first time was a fluke, but damn, if it did not happen a few months later. It screwed up several days of both trips.[/QUOTE]Gents,
Tap water and water. Ice are two totally different matters. You may be okay to drink tap water in Bangkok, Some can't because the body must contain the strange bacteria in Thailand, let's say it is different type that body is familiar in the USA. However, all most people get sick when drink the water-ice in Bangkok because the strange chemical mixed in water to make hard ice. I call it contaminated during the process liquid to hard ice. So, be aware, I drink the cold beer without ice and it is taste better that way.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1232723]Not necessarily the "science" belongs to BKK. It is applicable all over the world, more in some countries I do not want to label them as the definition might be restrictive.
The bottled water companies might have some influence to pursue their own interests, but do not have it to the extent of getting somebody sick when he drinks tap water or use ice coming from that.
And that happens! We all know that. Period.[/QUOTE]Agree of course! When it comes to Thailand I try to stick with what has work for me and keep the girls here licking my ass LOL. Drink or not to drink is the question for the new year?
Happy New Year Fellas!
LBM
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1232716]Somebody asked a question, they got an answer. Get over it.[/QUOTE]I believe the name of this thread is Bangkok reports. Correct me if I am wrong please! Asking a question is one thing but pages and pages going on about where to buy orchids, debates about whether to drink the tap water and so on is just ridiculous. I think questions and discussions like this belong in the Thailand expat thread or general discussion threads.
This threat I think should be used for Bangkok mongering reports.
Went to Soi Cowboy last night and pulled a nice one from Suzie Wongs. Huge tits, white skin, firm ass. My dream girl. 2500 ST. DATY was amazing. I like unshaven but neatly kept.
The view when she was riding me was incredible and doggy was great, could not hold on any longer.
just spent a few days at the dynasty inn on soi 4 near sukhumvit. trolled around the nana complex to check out the dancing ladies, and found them to be very attractive but kind of disinterested as always. i've had bad experiences with the gogo girls in the past so i just look and whet my appetite. later i pull the freelancers hanging around outside the actual bar complex. no bar fines and they all go for about 1000 baht for short time. not as good looking as the gogo girls but generally excellent service, plus i have a chance to chat with them a bit and / or buy them a drink at a local bar and check them out for a few minutes. i went two out of three for those three days, two girls were excellent gfs with lots of kissing, daty, bbbj and multiple positions. the other one was still good but didn't like to kiss, so i didn't push the issue. you can find all ages and body types out on the street.
i also tried dr bj's new place and found that to be a good experience, too, on soi 7. 700 baht for a "nurse" and excellent bbbj. gave her a 200 baht tip. definitely nicer facility than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8.
off to phuket now for a week. more reports and pics to follow.
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1233310]Went to Soi Cowboy last night and pulled a nice one from Suzie Wongs. Huge tits, white skin, firm ass. My dream girl. 2500 ST. DATY was amazing. I like unshaven but neatly kept.
The view when she was riding me was incredible and doggy was great, could not hold on any longer.[/QUOTE]I think Suzie Wong has the best quality: both "eye candy" wise and service-wise. Last time I was there I fancied one of the dancers (I think her number was 24). A quick eye contact and she came over. I offered a lady drink and she sat next to me in a booth. As they wear skimpy clothes (if any at all!) this gave a good opportunity to sample the wares and she was not too shy to reciprocate. We settled on 3000 baht LT + bar fine and had indeed some great sessions in the hotel during the night. A very wet and tight pussy, cleanly shaven; small but firm tits with large and sensitive nipples.
I offered her breakfast, but she wanted to go home in the morning.
Morris7,
See you're problem is you're impatient and that's why you come so fast " you could not hold on any longer " the guy wanted to know where they got the flowers. See there is a story behind that question? He gets that flower, gives that flower and then gets some flower!
As for tap water its a important question. Monger drinks water because he was too impatient to ask a simple question. Comes to Bangkok drinks the water out of the tap then has the runs! trip spoil, no ass rimming, no BBBj, nothing, just a raw ass going home sitting in coach with a stack of pillows under his ass.
The Expats Threads were created to kill dialog and it was successful!
LBM
[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1; 1232819]Gents,
Tap water and water. Ice are two totally different matters. You may be okay to drink tap water in Bangkok, Some can't because the body must contain the strange bacteria in Thailand, let's say it is different type that body is familiar in the USA. However, all most people get sick when drink the water-ice in Bangkok because the strange chemical mixed in water to make hard ice. I call it contaminated during the process liquid to hard ice. So, be aware, I drink the cold beer without ice and it is taste better that way.[/QUOTE]Actually it is just the opposite in Thailand.
I've lived here 10 years.
NO ONE I KNOW DRINKS TAP WATER!
That is Thai and expats.
It is not safe to drink. Look around at all the Thai people drinking only bottled water, even though they have much lower salaries compared to foreign tourists.
Ice is safe because it is not made with tap water.
MEXICO is the country with the don't drink anything with ice in it caveats.
Not one person I know of here has ever had a problem with ice in drinks.
Doc50
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1233310]I believe the name of this thread is Bangkok reports. Correct me if I am wrong please! Asking a question is one thing but pages and pages going on about where to buy orchids, debates about whether to drink the tap water and so on is just ridiculous. I think questions and discussions like this belong in the Thailand expat thread or general discussion threads.
This threat I think should be used for Bangkok mongering reports.
Went to Soi Cowboy last night and pulled a nice one from Suzie Wongs. Huge tits, white skin, firm ass. My dream girl. 2500 ST. DATY was amazing. I like unshaven but neatly kept.
The view when she was riding me was incredible and doggy was great, could not hold on any longer.[/QUOTE]Yes you are wrong. We get tired of the same boring report day after day as to how a monger got a dream girl, plunked down a good chunk of money and had an awesome blow job and FS. We have seen it all and heard it all. There are no reports like Hustler's or Playboy's erotic letters etc. Yes, so discussing the water quality is a good diversion. ANd you can always skip reading about it. I do.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1233310]I believe the name of this thread is Bangkok reports. Correct me if I am wrong please! Asking a question is one thing but pages and pages going on about where to buy orchids, debates about whether to drink the tap water and so on is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Indeeed we were talking about BKK water, not Chang Mai's or Phuket or where else. So it is appropriate. It belongs to here.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1233529]how a monger got a dream girl, plunked down a good chunk of money.[/QUOTE]You mean someething like paying 2500 for ST? Well. We should discuss about it! . Is it too much? Does it spoil the market? How will NYSE react about this? LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1233661]Indeeed we were talking about BKK water, not Chang Mai's or Phuket or where else. So it is appropriate. It belongs to here.[/QUOTE]You are right, There are no seperate threads as in other sites so anything goes here. It does open things up, which is fine with me.
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1233310]I believe the name of this thread is Bangkok reports. Correct me if I am wrong please! Asking a question is one thing but pages and pages going on about where to buy orchids, debates about whether to drink the tap water and so on is just ridiculous. I think questions and discussions like this belong in the Thailand expat thread or general discussion threads.
This threat I think should be used for Bangkok mongering reports.
Went to Soi Cowboy last night and pulled a nice one from Suzie Wongs. Huge tits, white skin, firm ass. My dream girl. 2500 ST. DATY was amazing. I like unshaven but neatly kept.
The view when she was riding me was incredible and doggy was great, could not hold on any longer.[/QUOTE]But Mooris, your report is absolutely of no use to anyone.
You did not name the girl or give her number in the bar. So therefore anything you said about her is of no use to anyone as we do not know who she is.
And you paid too much, why on earth did you pay 2500 baht short time?
I mean, I could write I report as follows :
I went into XXXXX bar last night, pulled a stunner, great BBBJ, nearly cum in her mouth, she wanted it but I held back, excellent FS including backdoor fun, she took it all, no complaints, wonderful body, real stunner, wow. So good. Pulled out at the last minute and did a CIM. Excellent value for money.
Now. That of no use as the girl is not named. Whats the point in writing the above? It happens to thousands of men everynight all over the world. If you write a Bangkok report then write down her name, her bar number etc. Thats the only way a report is useful.
Unless of course you are talking about water or orchids. Thats useful info.
[QUOTE=Doc 50; 1233484]Not one person I know of here has ever had a problem with ice in drinks.
Doc50[/QUOTE]Here! *Finger Up*
Well, it's a few year's since and it was a street foodstall at Ramkanhaeng. It ruined a few days of my life. Since then I'm a bit carefull, at what stall I take some ice in my drink. When not so sure about, then I leave the ice away.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1232028]Hi LP. Smiley's is one of my favorite bars in HCMC. Maybe you too have been up on the third floor pool room with Mai. I swear she has the biggest boobs in Vietnam and they are all natural, my friends. Not fat, either. Sucks a mean dick, too. She is pricey but if you want the boobs sometimes you have to pay extra. I always bring her a nice 36 D bra from Victoria's Secret because she has trouble finding ones that fit from Vietnam. I think I posted some photos of her a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]D Cups, please oh please tell me you have more photos of Mai from Smiley bar (I can give you my email account) She is my dream girl. I have been saving for the past 6 months to go and I will be there in Ho Chi Minh next month.
Questions: besides the most important please any more photos?
When is the last time anyone saw this girl Mai, I really hope she is still working at Smileys. Any good stories of her to tell. My holiday will be ruined if I can't find her. Truely amazing.
God damn I hope I saved enough money
My Saturday night started off with watching football in a bar opposite mine, down under. Terrible result to be honest. It was just before midnight and I was at a loss as to where to go, but had to make a decision quickly. Eventually I settled on a visit to Spanky's in Nana plaza. I made it with a couple of minutes to spare. I bought a beer and settled down for the countdown. After a while the Owner mark came over for a chat, I've known Mark for a short time and I think he is a very nice guy, an astute businessman and the go-go bar he has is one of the best places in Nana. The quality of the girls in there are very high and the atmosphere is second to none. It is generally busy without being crammed. Anyone who has yet to visit the place should do so sooner rather than later.
After talking to mark for ten minutes or so, and being treated to a beer. I was on the subject of the stunning lady I had bar fined at the Christmas party I attended in the Pattaya branch of spanky's. I was told by her she worked at the Nana plaza place and asked if I would drop in to see her (pay her bar fine she meant) I was just mentioning to mark I couldn't see her when suddenly I caught her eye on the dance stage. Not surprisingly she recognized me straight away, nothing to do with me being handsome everything to do with Thai people having an uncanny memory for faces. Mark had noticed this and beat a gentlemany retreat to allow her to sit next to me.
She seemed really happy to see me, more like happy at the prospect of making some money. She is extremely good looking with short dyed hair, a fabulous body and one of the best pairs of natural boobs I have seen for a long time. I was thinking to myself with it being New years Eve I deserved a little treat and intended to whisk her back to my place.
After an hour or so some American guy with a rubbery face and a misshapen nose sat next to me and after the happy new year greeting started talking to me (this left me thinking, I didn't pay for lady drinks so I could sit here and talk to a dude). To my amazement, this guy asked if the lady was my girlfriend? My terse reply was 'perhaps for tonight she might be'. After a while I went to the toilet and on my return he was talking to the lady, when he looked up and caught my eye he reacted like a misbehaved school boy who had just been rumbled. I thought to myself, no disrespect intended but she is a go-go bar dancer. Why look and feel guilty. Then he kept leering across at the lady, which she picked up on. Just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off, she started to give me a topless and seductive lap dance. I got the impression he was smitten with her and was hanging around to see if I would leave alone so he could bar fine her himself. It had the opposite effect as this guy was creepy and made me feel uneasy for some strange reason, even to the point of the guy looking like he wanted to start feeling her up when she was on me. He definitely moved closer to us during her dace for me. Because of this creepy feeling I ordered two more drinks to indicate I would be here a while. He spent another ten minutes in eager anticipation then disappeared.
Not surprisingly the lady told me he had been helping himself to my cigarettes when my attention was elsewhere, also that she felt uneasy around him and thanked me for staying for a short while even though I did not bar-fine her this time. It was about 2 am and I was still debating the wisdom of paying the bar fine but I was feeling a bit tired and quite pissed. I could see taking her back to my place ending up being a bad idea. I left when I finished my beer and had an interesting walk home, being offered a 49 year old street scrubber to go home with and drugs from a dodgy Nigerian. Both just made me laugh and I took myself off to bed. However I will be going back to spanky's to enlist the services of this lovely lady as soon as I can find the time.
Ciao BJ
D Cups I loved those photos of Mai from Smiley bar, dream girl. Please please any more photos of her?
I am going next month to Vietnam and I need to find this girl. Anyone know if she is still working. I just hope I saved enough money, how much for everything?
Bangkok, just back, still a great place to visit. The weather for New Year week was great so if you enjoy late night walks the girls were out all night.
Lots of construction has change the working girl location around soi 5. Were in the past the ladies would be lined up from mid-day to mid early morning this is no longer the case. I am not sure where they have moved to but the pickings is a lot and I repeat a lot less. The level of cute versus been around for a long time has increased. This is also true down or up on soi 19.
Took a ride to soi 22 and wild country is gone. Soi 22 has a number of bars for pool but it is not the same without the wild country crowd.
Soi Cowboy was packed for new year's here it is a draw on what one likes, the girls are pretty and dependent on where you want to party like to party. This is where you have to be careful because it can get expense once the girls move from drinking cola to shots. Bar fines are 400 to 600 and short time is 2000 on the overage. Most of the girls like to have a friend and therefore it is not unusual to be supporting drinks for 2 girls. But they are pretty friendly and the more you spend the more fun can be had right in the club. Smile within reason.
Nana is always packed angle witch spanks rainbow all have good line ups. The shows are good and fun. The girls prefer short time at 600 and 2000 tip. A local short time hotel on the 2nd floor has a high turnover that the girls like.
I spent too much no just was a really happy pig enjoyed the girls in both Soi Cowboy and Nana. I miss the cutes that lined soi 5-7.
Beer Bar almost forgot not bad if you like them with a little season. Good crowd on New Year's.
Lady boys, new angle with the ones that have converted to a pussy need to be careful here. One had me until asked for money up front. Thai girls never did well least not in my past.
Just a quick update. The place is fun and changing.
[QUOTE=Strikesfun; 1234037]Bangkok, just back, still a great place to visit. The weather for New Year week was great so if you enjoy late night walks the girls were out all night.
Lots of construction has change the working girl location around soi 5. Were in the past the ladies would be lined up from mid-day to mid early morning this is no longer the case. I am not sure where they have moved to but the pickings is a lot and I repeat a lot less. The level of cute versus been around for a long time has increased. This is also true down or up on soi 19.
Took a ride to soi 22 and wild country is gone. Soi 22 has a number of bars for pool but it is not the same without the wild country crowd.
Soi Cowboy was packed for new year's here it is a draw on what one likes, the girls are pretty and dependent on where you want to party like to party. This is where you have to be careful because it can get expense once the girls move from drinking cola to shots. Bar fines are 400 to 600 and short time is 2000 on the overage. Most of the girls like to have a friend and therefore it is not unusual to be supporting drinks for 2 girls. But they are pretty friendly and the more you spend the more fun can be had right in the club. Smile within reason.
Nana is always packed angle witch spanks rainbow all have good line ups. The shows are good and fun. The girls prefer short time at 600 and 2000 tip. A local short time hotel on the 2nd floor has a high turnover that the girls like.
I spent too much no just was a really happy pig enjoyed the girls in both Soi Cowboy and Nana. I miss the cutes that lined soi 5-7.
Beer Bar almost forgot not bad if you like them with a little season. Good crowd on New Year's.
Lady boys, new angle with the ones that have converted to a pussy need to be careful here. One had me until asked for money up front. Thai girls never did well least not in my past.
Just a quick update. The place is fun and changing.[/QUOTE]Did you go around the corner on Soi 3, Grace Hotel. Many more have been hanging out front there due to construction.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1233760]But Mooris, your report is absolutely of no use to anyone.
You did not name the girl or give her number in the bar. So therefore anything you said about her is of no use to anyone as we do not know who she is.
And you paid too much, why on earth did you pay 2500 baht short time?
I mean, I could write I report as follows :
I went into XXXXX bar last night, pulled a stunner, great BBBJ, nearly cum in her mouth, she wanted it but I held back, excellent FS including backdoor fun, she took it all, no complaints, wonderful body, real stunner, wow. So good. Pulled out at the last minute and did a CIM. Excellent value for money.
Now. That of no use as the girl is not named. Whats the point in writing the above? It happens to thousands of men everynight all over the world. If you write a Bangkok report then write down her name, her bar number etc. Thats the only way a report is useful.
Unless of course you are talking about water or orchids. Thats useful info.[/QUOTE]Sorry my friend but I don't recall many posters offering this information and I do in some of my reports if you did a little reading. One useful poster who owns his own place does not post this all the time either. If I wanted to read about Orchids, drinking water, visas, the flood, hotels and so on I would go to the general thread or the expat thread. The report in question by you in enough to start conversations about girl preferences, bar fine amounts, the girls number and son on. Frankly sometimes if I find a good catch, I don't want to offer that information up to just any lurker. If other senior members or contributing members want to know these things I would be happy to oblige in a PM. So please! Keep your non mongering discussions where they belong, is this not International sex guide? Or is it a flower shop LOL!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1233673]You are right, There are no seperate threads as in other sites so anything goes here. It does open things up, which is fine with me.[/QUOTE]There are separate threads! The general thread or the Thailand expat thread. This thread especially for topics such as the food, drinking water, visas and son on.
She wants a million but might go as low as 600K. I'll be going back in March to take some more photos, Line6.
[QUOTE=LineSix; 1233828]D Cups I loved those photos of Mai from Smiley bar, dream girl. Please please any more photos of her?
I am going next month to Vietnam and I need to find this girl. Anyone know if she is still working. I just hope I saved enough money, how much for everything?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1234275]She wants a million but might go as low as 600K. I'll be going back in March to take some more photos, Line6.[/QUOTE]Ok cool, hope you can get some good photos.
Also for a million will she do everything or only BJ.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1232550]Since before 2007.
[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/07/01/opinion/opinion_30038826.php[/url]
Of course, as the article notes, those companies that sell bottled water will continue to market the scare stories, after all, selling water in bottles is their business, if everyone drunk tap water they would be out of business.
Simple really.[/QUOTE]There are very few (VERY few) countries in Asia where it is safe to drink tap water. Even the poorest people drink bottled water. The alternative is to take tap water and let it boil for an extended period, then letting it cool down, straining it through a cloth and putting it, bottled, in your fridge. In my early years in Indonesia (just one example country) this is what our cook did. There is still no place in Indonesia where you can drink tap water, as opposed to a number of European countries.
No phony "scare stories" are marketed. Only firm adherents to a number of conspiracy theories still believe that.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1234388]There are very few (VERY few) countries in Asia where it is safe to drink tap water. Even the poorest people drink bottled water. The alternative is to take tap water and let it boil for an extended period, then letting it cool down, straining it through a cloth and putting it, bottled, in your fridge. In my early years in Indonesia (just one example country) this is what our cook did. There is still no place in Indonesia where you can drink tap water, as opposed to a number of European countries.
No phony "scare stories" are marketed. Only firm adherents to a number of conspiracy theories still believe that.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]I have been I SE Asia many times and they all use bottle water. I think the only place I have ever been in SE Asia where you can actually drink the water is Singapore. Even I woulden do it becaus I'm european and not use to the same kind of bacteria they have in there water as here.
Some years ago I was in Indonesia for 3 month and I hurt my lower leg and got a big wound on it. It would not heal at all for the last 1 month I was there even there was no inflammation in it. It would just not close. But when I got back to europe it just wendt 1 week and it was gone.
Most of the time you can also smell the water is full of clorin.
In Indonesia they don't even have pipes going from the purification facilitys so they drive arround with small tanks on the trucks to deliver water.
And this is inside Jakarta for most of the hotels and buisness houses.
Even if I go to countryes here in Europe I still think about if its safe for me to drink the water. Even it may be safe but actualy some times you can got a bad stummac just for that. So I rarely drink it anyway.
The same with the food. If you think you can just buy anything to eat your really wrong. Just becaus the local is eating it with not problem aften dosent mean that you can. Unless you want a few days staying at your toilet.
But anyway guys. Shouldn we get back to what this page is all about. Mongering arround in BKK and not about what to eat and drink. :-D
[QUOTE=D Cups;1234703]BBBJCIM and let you play with those amazing huge natural hanging boobalicious melons. Geez I should be her pimp and get a cut of the proceeds.[/QUOTE]You guys have piqued my interest with this discussion. Now I want to see these pics. Tried doing a search but to no avail. Would you guys be kind enough to post the links to these mouthwatering pics? .
It's cold here in the Sex Prison (aka USA)
Many thanks!
Uncle V
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1234491]I have been I SE Asia many times and they all use bottle water. I think the only place I have ever been in SE Asia where you can actually drink the water is Singapore.
The same with the food. If you think you can just buy anything to eat your really wrong. Just becaus the local is eating it with not problem aften dosent mean that you can. Unless you want a few days staying at your toilet.
:-D[/QUOTE]What a load of crap. In many places the water is perfectly safe and bottled water is an expensive gimmick. Do you think all the locals buy new bottles every day on their salaries? No, they fill up anywhere there is tap water.
Start slowly; brush your teeth in local water and build up an immunity.
Same with food. Much local food is cooked just before you eat it. Not so the salads and cold meats in 5 star hotels where the food makes many trips in and out of thr fridge picking up bugs along the way.
In a lifetime of travelling and living in Asia I have been sick once. When a 5 star hotel by-passed its water treatment plant to avoid paying for chemicals.
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76;1234491]I have been I SE Asia many times and they all use bottle water.[/QUOTE]The only reason so many people all over the world drink bottled water is not because the tap water is not safe to drink, but because bottled water is a strange product. Actually the more expensive it is, the more it sells! It has an inverse (or positive) price elasticity. For some strange reason, people think that drinking expensive bottled water gives them extra prestige or so.
Actually in a test done by a consumer organisation a while ago here (Europe) , it was found that many of the expensive brands of bottled water would not pass the tests for tap water and should come with a warning if used as tap water. Most of the bottled waters have too high a mineral and chemical content.
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1234491]Even if I go to countryes here in Europe I still think about if its safe for me to drink the water. Even it may be safe but actualy some times you can got a bad stummac just for that. So I rarely drink it anyway.
The same with the food. If you think you can just buy anything to eat your really wrong. Just becaus the local is eating it with not problem aften dosent mean that you can. Unless you want a few days staying at your toilet.[/QUOTE]In BKK the good news is you don't need to eat or drink anything Thai or Thai made, which might be of special concern after the flooding with overflow from the sewer systems, garbage and human excrement, dead carcasses floating around rotting for weeks, etc.
You can drink foreign alcoholic beverages. You can buy canned and otherwise sealed foods from France, Australia, etc. I imagine even the pineapple from Phucket should be safe. Anything else you'ld feel comfortable with?
Perhaps by next year I'd be bold enough to try certain Thai dishes under specific conditions of preparation, location, etc. For now you might want to avoid ingesting too much water from TGs mouths. Who knows where they been, what they've been into, or what's been into them before seeing you, aside from the usual concerns re extra spicy BBBJ's, etc.
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1234388]There are very few (VERY few) countries in Asia where it is safe to drink tap water. Even the poorest people drink bottled water. The alternative is to take tap water and let it boil for an extended period, then letting it cool down, straining it through a cloth and putting it, bottled, in your fridge. In my early years in Indonesia (just one example country) this is what our cook did. There is still no place in Indonesia where you can drink tap water, as opposed to a number of European countries.
No phony "scare stories" are marketed. Only firm adherents to a number of conspiracy theories still believe that.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]Gents,
The idea of tap water is Safe enough to drink. This is true in USAA for this purified water after the natural water from the wells run through water treatments plants and located everywhere in the counties. In Thailand, the water run through a similar process. Personaly, I don't drink tap water in USA because I like the bottled water just for the taste. However, I use the tap water for cooking. However, once in a while, I drink the tap water and never got sick from that. The water sure contained chrloride treatment bacteria. Anyways, even in Thailand, if Thai's people start to drink tap water they still are safe from water disease.
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1234388]There are very few (VERY few) countries in Asia where it is safe to drink tap water. Even the poorest people drink bottled water. The alternative is to take tap water and let it boil for an extended period, then letting it cool down, straining it through a cloth and putting it, bottled, in your fridge. In my early years in Indonesia (just one example country) this is what our cook did. There is still no place in Indonesia where you can drink tap water, as opposed to a number of European countries.
No phony "scare stories" are marketed. Only firm adherents to a number of conspiracy theories still believe that.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]No, the local people do not drink bottled water because it is expensive. Many boil the water. But local people are immune to the diseases caused by drinking contaminated water.
For us we have lost that immunity. I have seen people drinking water from rivers as well as from taps.
Would love to see the playoffs and not miss them! Thanks
Jeez, all this talk about tap water then a question about the NFL! Moooooris7 is going to have a coronary! ;p
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1234731]The only reason so many people all over the world drink bottled water is not because the tap water is not safe to drink, but because bottled water is a strange product. Actually the more expensive it is, the more it sells! It has an inverse (or positive) price elasticity. For some strange reason, people think that drinking expensive bottled water gives them extra prestige or so.
Actually in a test done by a consumer organisation a while ago here (Europe) , it was found that many of the expensive brands of bottled water would not pass the tests for tap water and should come with a warning if used as tap water. Most of the bottled waters have too high a mineral and chemical content.[/QUOTE]Correct.
Most bottled mineral waters sold in Western Europe are subjected to less rigorous tests than tap water, and yet the price per litre is about 1, 000 times higher.
In other continents the situation is different. I can only speak for Indonesia, but even in remote kampungs drinking water is sold in bottles with warnings on the seal not to buy the bottle if the seal is broken. Bottled water is not expensive in Indonesia, even for Indonesians, and if anybody still can't afford it, they make it themself by boiling water.
Nobody drinks water straight from rivers or canals.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1234800]Would love to see the playoffs and not miss them! Thanks[/QUOTE]The problem is the time difference. 4pm=4am 8pm=8am.
Are they games shown on TV in Thailand, Yes. But not in any bars.
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1234880]Correct.
Most bottled mineral waters sold in Western Europe are subjected to less rigorous tests than tap water, and yet the price per litre is about 1, 000 times higher.
In other continents the situation is different. I can only speak for Indonesia, but even in remote kampungs drinking water is sold in bottles with warnings on the seal not to buy the bottle if the seal is broken. Bottled water is not expensive in Indonesia, even for Indonesians, and if anybody still can't afford it, they make it themself by boiling water.
Nobody drinks water straight from rivers or canals.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]Gents,
The best bottled water I know is Arrow head pure quality mountain spring from the Rockies mountain. Even with that, they are not expensive to buy from the store. The water from rivers and canals are very dangerous to drink these days because people pollute heavily. Most of tap water in California come from the Sierra mountain snow pack in the winter.
Let the guy read through this stuff to get to what he wants? True but we are talking about SEA water right now. A few years back in S. F. There was a major water company that since merged with some others that had a huge contract to supply bottle water to the city offices. A study was done on the water coming from Crystal Springs nearby and they concluded this water was cleaner than any of the water being sold or delivered including Avian supposely from the mountains. In study people pay more for bottle water than for gas. I had a guy here in Pattaya that says he drinks only mineral water and will pay more but goes down each night to Beach road to get his pussy? But in the end, I wouldn't drink the water even if I was staying in a five star hotel from the tap!
Football, I believe the place right outside Nana Hotel shows NFL, the games are usually tape delay. Right now. Houston is in. And Detroit is winning over N. O. 14/10, Go Niners!
By the way anyone know where to get 4 ply Charmin? Or course in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1234800]Would love to see the playoffs and not miss them! Thanks[/QUOTE]Go to American Tavern on Soi 2 near NEP. It is across the street from Rajah Hotel and 7-11. They show all the games live.
[QUOTE=Drogue;1234939]Go to American Tavern on Soi 2 near NEP. It is across the street from Rajah Hotel and 7-11. They show all the games live.[/QUOTE]Someone mentioned before that the NFL games are on at odd hours (between 1 and 7 am) over here so even if the bars are open they may close on you before the games end. If you're a die-hard NFL fan you can subscribe to their league Pass and watch all the games whenever you want on your TV, computer or both but it is a bit pricey.
[url]https://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/secure/packages[/url]
Get all the football games, and for that matter, all the sports at the free European web site firstrow. Tv
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1234936]Let the guy read through this stuff to get to what he wants? True but we are talking about SEA water right now. A few years back in S. F. There was a major water company that since merged with some others that had a huge contract to supply bottle water to the city offices. A study was done on the water coming from Crystal Springs nearby and they concluded this water was cleaner than any of the water being sold or delivered including Avian supposely from the mountains. In study people pay more for bottle water than for gas. I had a guy here in Pattaya that says he drinks only mineral water and will pay more but goes down each night to Beach road to get his pussy? But in the end, I wouldn't drink the water even if I was staying in a five star hotel from the tap![/QUOTE]The trouble about water in large buildings, such as hotels, is that even if the water coming into the building is clean, it is invariably stored in water tanks where it can go stagnant and become infected, sometimes even by the presence of dead bugs or small animals.
I used to stay in a budge hotel in Bangkok where I invariably got a gut infection within 24 hours of arrival. I managed to narrow it down to the water which I only used to wash my teeth.
[QUOTE=Sad Sam;1234800]Would love to see the playoffs and not miss them! Thanks[/QUOTE]Try the Office bar on Soi 33, he plays all sports all the time and also somedelayed telecasts he tapes.
Yes, this is a good place to watch the playoffs. Good breakfast, too. The owner will even open up the bar at 4 AM to watch the games if you ask him nicely. He is a Eagles fan. Tell him The Packer Fan said Hi and GO PACKERS! REPEAT!
[QUOTE=Drogue;1234939]Go to American Tavern on Soi 2 near NEP. It is across the street from Rajah Hotel and 7-11. They show all the games live.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Simian; 1235094]The trouble about water in large buildings, such as hotels, is that even if the water coming into the building is clean, it is invariably stored in water tanks where it can go stagnant and become infected, sometimes even by the presence of dead bugs or small animals.
I used to stay in a budge hotel in Bangkok where I invariably got a gut infection within 24 hours of arrival. I managed to narrow it down to the water which I only used to wash my teeth.[/QUOTE]I would not trust the water in Thailand, I even keep my mouth shut when in the shower, why take a chance when bottled water is so cheap. ?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1235281]I would not trust the water in Thailand, I even keep my mouth shut when in the shower, why take a chance when bottled water is so cheap. ?[/QUOTE]I won't even rinse my toothbrush with tap water anywhere except at home! Bottom line: never drink the tap water no matter where you travel. If I were European visiting Miami, I would not drink the tap water. As an American visiting Europe, I won't drink the tap water. 30 million years ago on my first trip outside the States which lasted 6 months; a friend and I drove down to Mexico and Central America. We had a gas. I drank the water and ate local street food and got sicker than a dog for about a week. After that I was inoculated and could eat and drink anything. But the week I was sick was rough. I don't advise doing what I did. If you are travelling for just a week or even a couple of months, it is not worth it to get yourself localized. Don't drink the tap water and that means ice cubes too unless it is a 5 star hotel or restaurant with its own filtration system.
[QUOTE=Simian; 1235094]The trouble about water in large buildings, such as hotels, is that even if the water coming into the building is clean, it is invariably stored in water tanks where it can go stagnant and become infected, sometimes even by the presence of dead bugs or small animals.
I used to stay in a budge hotel in Bangkok where I invariably got a gut infection within 24 hours of arrival. I managed to narrow it down to the water which I only used to wash my teeth.[/QUOTE]
My comments had nothing to do with the building or storage tank. The water being deliver to the city offices were water bottle 5 gallons. A test was done to verify the claim by city workers that the pipes in the building were dirty and regardless of how good the water was coming from the Hetch Hetchy to Crystal Springs then to theCity once out of the pipes it was dirty. They did a extensive test to the bottle water and the water coming out of the pipes in City Hall and the water was cleaner coming out of the pipes. Afte the test some supervisor suggested that the city should start selling bottle water? The contract with Alhambra water a major supplier of water for the City was cancel and thereafter Mckessen sold the company and thereafter became Arrow Head? Or Sierra? As for water coming straight from the mountains or springs or whatever to the tap is false! It still got to got through a form of filtration process.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1235311]My comments had nothing to do with the building or storage tank. The water being deliver to the city offices were water bottle 5 gallons. A test was done to verify the claim by city workers that the pipes in the building were dirty and regardless of how good the water was coming from the Hetch Hetchy to Crystal Springs then to theCity once out of the pipes it was dirty. They did a extensive test to the bottle water and the water coming out of the pipes in City Hall and the water was cleaner coming out of the pipes. Afte the test some supervisor suggested that the city should start selling bottle water? The contract with Alhambra water a major supplier of water for the City was cancel and thereafter Mckessen sold the company and thereafter became Arrow Head? Or Sierra? As for water coming straight from the mountains or springs or whatever to the tap is false! It still got to got through a form of filtration process.
LBM[/QUOTE]Gents,
As in the case of Arrow head water, the company is very old Est. 1894 from the old west and obviously everbody likes Arrow head bottled water. There are thousand bottled water company in California and they are Not that popular like Arrow head. Why the Arrow head is the best? The Arrow head water is just pure great quality spring water from the Rockies mountain, and ofcourse the water must go through the purified processing plants before bottled. The Sierra snow pack is for the tap water only and still needs purified before pumping into city water pipe. However, people like to drink bottled water because they think that is safe and taste better than tap.
Thank you all for your ideas on catching a cab from the "departure" section on the 4th floor of the suvarnabhoomi international airport!
We easily got a cab, and costed us only about THB250 plus 2 tolls of about THB 30 each. The destination was Conrad hotel on "wireless Road / vitaayu road" near the sukumvit area!
This was much cheaper than the "airport taxi" counters inside the "arrival" lounge asking to pay THB600 for the one way trip!
Thanks once again,
Madto
On my second night, Partied a lot in a club called "Bossy"! Don't know which area. But all taxi drivers know it! The cover charge is 300THB per person and that includes one free drink. This is a place to easily pick up hookers from various different countries. And some of them were real stunners!
Specially this babe from Columbia who was classy and said that she has been an escort since the last 6 months only. She was about 5. 6 feet, fair, pretty eyes and sexy figure. The dress she wore was a cocktail type party dress with deep cleavage, which made her look very classy and sexy. Her charges were 3000thb for ST and 5000thb for LT. Sorry don't remember her name. But each and every passerby was looking at her and asking her (she was that pretty and sexy)
Unfortunately, I was unable to pick up these babes because of my wife traveling with me, otherwise the columbian was surely the perfect one. But would certainly recommend other forum members to keep a look out for her and enjoy!
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1; 1235350]Gents,
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Just for info for those that need it. I was in BKK the last of November. I usually just go to the taxi stand out front as it is convient and I want to get where I am headed. So the girl at the desk says that is 450 baht. I said no it isn't. I have been here before and it is 400. She says Ok and no arguement. Maybe just tell then you are not new and act like you know what you are doing. If they are telling you 600, you look like a mark to them I would think. If they won't take your offer, head up stairs. Just takes a little more time but it will save you some baht for the pussy you are looking to locate.
[QUOTE=Madto; 1235444]On my second night, Partied a lot in a club called "Bossy"! Don't know which area. But all taxi drivers know it! The cover charge is 300THB per person and that includes one free drink. This is a place to easily pick up hookers from various different countries. And some of them were real stunners!
Specially this babe from Columbia who was classy and said that she has been an escort since the last 6 months only. She was about 5. 6 feet, fair, pretty eyes and sexy figure. The dress she wore was a cocktail type party dress with deep cleavage, which made her look very classy and sexy. Her charges were 3000thb for ST and 5000thb for LT. Sorry don't remember her name. But each and every passerby was looking at her and asking her (she was that pretty and sexy)
Unfortunately, I was unable to pick up these babes because of my wife traveling with me, otherwise the columbian was surely the perfect one. But would certainly recommend other forum members to keep a look out for her and enjoy!
Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks for the note on Bossy- what time of night did you find it to be good?
In a few weeks I'll be back in BKK after about 1 year away. Flight gets in about midnight on Saturday night, will head straight for hotel, freshen up, and out for some fun! Flight used to arrive at 10pm, leaving plenty of time for GoGo's the first night. Now I'm not expecting to be ready to head out of the hotel until 1:30am.
I think I should probably skip the gogo's and head straight to a FL joint. Question is, which one? Thinking Climax or Insomnia- any tips on when the best hours on a Saturday night would be around that time?
Then over the next days will circle back to the obligatory Gogo's and massage joints.
Of course will post on my adventures.
[QUOTE=Industrial;1235605]I think I should probably skip the gogo's and head straight to a FL joint. Question is, which one? Thinking Climax or Insomnia- any tips on when the best hours on a Saturday night would be around that time?[/QUOTE]I prefer Insomnia. It is not as loud, more places to sit, and you can smoke that menthol stuff out of the hukkas. I would say the girls are about the same quality, hit or miss as always.
[QUOTE=Industrial; 1235605]Thanks for the note on Bossy- what time of night did you find it to be good?
In a few weeks I'll be back in BKK after about 1 year away. Flight gets in about midnight on Saturday night, will head straight for hotel, freshen up, and out for some fun! Flight used to arrive at 10pm, leaving plenty of time for GoGo's the first night. Now I'm not expecting to be ready to head out of the hotel until 1:30am.
I think I should probably skip the gogo's and head straight to a FL joint. Question is, which one? Thinking Climax or Insomnia- any tips on when the best hours on a Saturday night would be around that time?
Then over the next days will circle back to the obligatory Gogo's and massage joints.
Of course will post on my adventures.[/QUOTE]It was the 26th December night (Monday night) and was quite full! I went there are around midnight and left at 3am. There were some uzbek stunners as well! They are all ready to negotiate depending upon the time and client!
Enjoy.
This FR is not on my experience, but my friends, even tough I was a witness to some of the experience!
My wife and me were in BKK for 3 nights and decided to party at the bed supper lounge. We met a couple of acquaintances of mine (2 guys from NYC) who were also partying there. At around 11. 30pm, all 4 of us decided to head out and explore the other "soi's" around and "pub hop".
While walking thru soi 7 (or maybe it was soi 11) we came across Dr. BJs, (next to club eden) which has been mentioned on this forum several times. We all went inside to take a look and understand the "services offered".
A consultant cost 700THB and a nurse costed 1000THB for 30 minutes and included 1 BJ. If you wanted FJ, then an additional 1000THB had to be paid to the girl directly. There were about 5-6 girls on display in each of the categories. Out of which, only 1 of them was worth paying any money! I surely wanted to try out the services, but alas, my wife was next to me and was not going to let me go with any other girl. So my friend from NYC decided to hire the services of a consultant (the only pretty one) and went inside. My wife is very open minded and liked the entire concept, but according to her "the concept was only to be tried by bachelors". This is where my experience ended and my friends experience started.
There were small cubicles having "lazy boy" type recliners. The girl removes her top and removes your trousers, then starts giving you a BJ. After some time, she checks whether you are interested in upgrading to a full session. My friend did not upgrade but told her to remove all her clothes and dfk him. She did that for 200THB extra and he really enjoyed kissing, sucking her boobs, and fingering her pussy for the remaining 20 minutes before cuming into her mouth, and she swallowed all that he gave her!
He had a silly grin on his face when he returned after 30 minutes and then narrated his entire story to us. I found it to be a great concept and should be launched worldwide.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1235585]Just for info for those that need it. I was in BKK the last of November. I usually just go to the taxi stand out front as it is convient and I want to get where I am headed. So the girl at the desk says that is 450 baht. I said no it isn't. I have been here before and it is 400. She says Ok and no arguement. Maybe just tell then you are not new and act like you know what you are doing. If they are telling you 600, you look like a mark to them I would think. If they won't take your offer, head up stairs. Just takes a little more time but it will save you some baht for the pussy you are looking to locate.[/QUOTE]Another option is to go to the ground floor and use the public taxi stand. The price from Suvarnabhumi to the area around Sukhumvit Soi 11 should be around 300B. You don't actually get quoted a price beforehand, just pay the meter.
[quote=madto;1235726]my friend did not upgrade but told her to remove all her clothes and dfk him. she did that for 200thb extra and he really enjoyed kissing, sucking her boobs, and fingering her pussy for the remaining 20 minutes before cuming into her mouth, and she swallowed all that he gave her![/quote]and she kissed the next lucky guy with that same mouth. this is not an odd occurrence though as i seen several men over the years at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] sitting on the couch dfkissing some of the girls but have never heard of anyone paying extra to dfk a girl who sucks dick for a living.
[QUOTE=Madto; 1235444]On my second night, Partied a lot in a club called "Bossy Her charges were 3000thb for ST and 5000thb for LT. Sorry don't remember her name.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Nice report but do not worry about having forgotten the phone number. Given the rates, better focus on the local talents.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1235585]Just for info for those that need it. I was in BKK the last of November. I usually just go to the taxi stand out front as it is convient and I want to get where I am headed. So the girl at the desk says that is 450 baht. I said no it isn't. I have been here before and it is 400. She says Ok and no arguement. Maybe just tell then you are not new and act like you know what you are doing. If they are telling you 600, you look like a mark to them I would think. If they won't take your offer, head up stairs. Just takes a little more time but it will save you some baht for the pussy you are looking to locate.[/QUOTE]They shoul dnot even quote you a price but the fare should be run by the taxi-meter.
I have never been offered a price package wen taking taxi from arrival. More often you get it when you take tazi from departures, but simly insist on taxi meter or if the offer is ok, just take it, a 50B. Difference will not be a killer.
Night rides are anyhow more expensive also with a taxi meter
[QUOTE=Harold444;1235926]I know this topic has been covered before. But doesn't anyone care about hepatitis, and all that stuff?[/QUOTE]Apparently no one cares about that but they do care about whether or not they can drink the tap water. This is actually comical now. May I suggest we change the name of this site to The International water guide? Lets see you can drink the tap water in Toronto but you know it is a little brown is Argentina. Oh if you drink the tap water in Africa you will get aids and if you drink it in BKK then you will get a ladyboy LOL. Well boys if it has comer to this then so be it!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1235926]I know this topic has been covered before. But doesn't anyone care about hepatitis, and all that stuff?[/QUOTE]As this is the Bangkok Thread (mainly for mongering topics) , you would be better to ask in the general thread. I'm not sure why you ask this question. I don't see any abnormal danger of Hep in Thailand, providing you look after basic hygiene, like washing your hands, using condoms, etc. In nearly 20 years of mongering in Thailand, Hep has never been a special concern to me, and I only once heard of a friend catching it in Cambodia. Obviously I am not microbe-phobic, as I often eat at roadside food stands (sensibly). Food poisoning or Gastro is common, so personally, I avoid fresh water prawns these days (seems to have become risky for me just last 2-3 years). Definitely don't risk eating crab or prawns that are un-cooked (marinated instead of cooked). Raw shellfish could be risky. Also don't eat anything that doesn't seem fresh.
[quote=run mann;1235779]and she kissed the next lucky guy with that same mouth. this is not an odd occurrence though as i seen several men over the years at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] sitting on the couch dfkissing some of the girls but have never heard of anyone paying extra to dfk a girl who sucks dick for a living.[/quote]the kissing was probably free (unless his mouth was really bad) and 200 baht to take her clothes off. i once had a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] girl who refused to take her clothes off. obviously, i would check first now.
Hello all!
I'm arriving in BKK on a Thursday night around 11:30pm by the time I get situated I'm sure it will be around 1am. I don't want to waste any time LOL, Anyway I was wondering where could I go to find me a nice hottie to bring back around that time? I'm staying in a hotel in the Sukhumvit soi 7/1. I know the Beer Garden is around there but not sure I'll make it there on time. Any recommendations?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Jbranch23; 1236052]Hello, all!
I'm arriving in BKK on a Thursday night around 11:30pm by the time I get situated I'm sure it will be around 1am. I don't want to waste any time LOL, Anyway I was wondering where could I go to find me a nice hottie to bring back around that time? I'm staying in a hotel in the Sukhumvit soi 7/1. I know the Beer Garden is around there but not sure I'll make it there on time. Any recommendations?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Climax Bar
[QUOTE=Harold444;1236041]Explain more about night rides being more expensive![/QUOTE]They aren't, as long as you get a taxi that uses the meter. Which is basically any except those parked at tourist spots.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1236137]They aren't, as long as you get a taxi that uses the meter. Which is basically any except those parked at tourist spots.[/QUOTE]Last time I was I BKK I just grab the first taxi out in front of Nana to go back to the hotel. It was max 10 min drive and he want 350 bath for this short trip.
Shure he was trying to cheat me becaus the day before it was only about 40 bath for the same trip. So just to warn you. Be aware of the cheaters. And don't have to big money on you for the taxi.
I have no problem at all with paying a good tip for the driver. Usualy I always pay up til nearest 50 og 100 when I'm using a cap. But this guy only got 40 bath. He wantet to call the police becaus I was trying to cheat him. But for me no problem at all. I just went away in to my hotel. And I think he left.
Anyway in a situation like this I really don't know what will happend if Hi was calling th cops. Will they belive me or him? Or would they even show up at all?
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1236223]Last time I was I BKK I just grab the first taxi out in front of Nana to go back to the hotel. It was max 10 min drive and he want 350 bath for this short trip.
Shure he was trying to cheat me becaus the day before it was only about 40 bath for the same trip. So just to warn you. Be aware of the cheaters. And don't have to big money on you for the taxi.
I have no problem at all with paying a good tip for the driver. Usualy I always pay up til nearest 50 og 100 when I'm using a cap. But this guy only got 40 bath. He wantet to call the police becaus I was trying to cheat him. But for me no problem at all. I just went away in to my hotel. And I think he left.
Anyway in a situation like this I really don't know what will happend if Hi was calling th cops. Will they belive me or him? Or would they even show up at all?[/QUOTE]If he quoted you a price of 350bht and you accepted, but then only paid 40bht then you would be in trouble. Several times I have been asked for a high price, usually late at night outside a busy tourist spot. Can either accept, negotiate or walk away. Accepting and then not paying is not a wise option.
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1236223]Last time I was I BKK I just grab the first taxi out in front of Nana to go back to the hotel. It was max 10 min drive and he want 350 bath for this short trip.
Shure he was trying to cheat me because the day before it was only about 40 bath for the same trip / QUOTE]In Bangkok, always, Always, ALWAYS ask for the meter to be used. There are no exceptions, I REPEAT,"THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS".
Hey Bionicman, Please explane more. I have only been to BKK 6 or 7 times. Each time I come out of arrival there is a group of Thais at a table and the taxi's are lined up. You pay those people at the table and they give a ticket to the taxi driver. I have tried to get a taxi and the drivers won't budge without that ticket. You mentioon that it might because we are picking up a taxi at departures. I am comming directly out the door where you pick up your luggage and head outside. Also by main level do you mean the departure level. I thought that the departure level was above the arrival level. Help me out so I can save some baht next time around.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1236223]Last time I was I BKK I just grab the first taxi out in front of Nana to go back to the hotel. It was max 10 min drive and he want 350 bath for this short trip.
Shure he was trying to cheat me becaus the day before it was only about 40 bath for the same trip. So just to warn you. Be aware of the cheaters. And don't have to big money on you for the taxi.
I have no problem at all with paying a good tip for the driver. Usualy I always pay up til nearest 50 og 100 when I'm using a cap. But this guy only got 40 bath. He wantet to call the police becaus I was trying to cheat him. But for me no problem at all. I just went away in to my hotel. And I think he left.
Anyway in a situation like this I really don't know what will happend if Hi was calling th cops. Will they belive me or him? Or would they even show up at all?[/QUOTE]To funny.
Is this a private taxi without meter why did you just say no if he quote you 350 bht and take another taxi most taxi driver want to charge you more at Nana plaza lat at night, if he call a cop is your world against his, I would offer him 100 bht see if he accept that I know people get beat up for that use your head next time.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1236258]Hey Bionicman, Please explane more. I have only been to BKK 6 or 7 times. Each time I come out of arrival there is a group of Thais at a table and the taxi's are lined up. You pay those people at the table and they give a ticket to the taxi driver. I have tried to get a taxi and the drivers won't budge without that ticket. You mentioon that it might because we are picking up a taxi at departures. I am comming directly out the door where you pick up your luggage and head outside. Also by main level do you mean the departure level. I thought that the departure level was above the arrival level. Help me out so I can save some baht next time around.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]To Mackin.
If you want to save some bht take the arilink express train go to makasan station is very fast is only 100 bht, you can take taxi from there to the hotel or short walk to subway station if you don't have alot of luggage, if I take taxi I go to arrival level pick a taxi just drop some one off meter to suk is about 280 bht.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1236236]If he quoted you a price of 350bht and you accepted, but then only paid 40bht then you would be in trouble. Several times I have been asked for a high price, usually late at night outside a busy tourist spot. Can either accept, negotiate or walk away. Accepting and then not paying is not a wise option.[/QUOTE]No I did not accept any price before the trip started. But just ask if he was available and then get in after a yes. And then I always ask the drive to put on the meter because that's most fair for everyone.
Then there's a price to pay after the meter and nothing to argue about.
Then its also up to me to pay extra if I like to or not.
But this guy had a hat over the meter so I could not see it before I was at my destination. And when I ask him to turn on the meter he reply that it was on.
It rarely makes sense to take a taxi that is just sitting there (except at the airport example below) , or even to acknowledge their existence. You'll just waste your time and pay more than necessary. Instead, flag down (by pointing at at the ground in front of you) one that is moving with the red light on.
At the airport, departures (level 4?) is above arrivals. You can pick a taxi up there without paying the 50 baht fee, and maybe wait less as well. Just say "meter OK" and if they try to argue, move on to the next guy. Even at weird hours, it's usually pretty easy to find a more-than-willing meter-using driver. The meter usually ranges from about 180-270, plus tolls if you take the tollway (45+25?).
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1236100]Climax Bar[/QUOTE]Looks good! Thanks much
Does anyone know where to find this one hottie that goes by the name 'Sara' she is in several thai porn vids on the web. Is she in Bangkok, Phuket or Pats? Maybe a gogo, escort, ect.
[url]http://thaipoony.com/2011/04/07/cute-thai-girl-sara-returns/[/url]
[QUOTE=Jbranch23; 1236052]Hello, all!
I'm arriving in BKK on a Thursday night around 11:30pm by the time I get situated I'm sure it will be around 1am. I don't want to waste any time LOL, Anyway I was wondering where could I go to find me a nice hottie to bring back around that time? I'm staying in a hotel in the Sukhumvit soi 7/1. I know the Beer Garden is around there but not sure I'll make it there on time. Any recommendations?
Thanks![/QUOTE]My preference would be Insomnia (Soi 12)
[QUOTE=Mackin;1236258]Each time I come out of arrival there is a group of Thais at a table and the taxi's are lined up. You pay those people at the table and they give a ticket to the taxi driver. I have tried to get a taxi and the drivers won't budge without that ticket. You mentioon that it might because we are picking up a taxi at departures. I am comming directly out the door where you pick up your luggage and head outside. Also by main level do you mean the departure level. I thought that the departure level was above the arrival level. Help me out so I can save some baht next time around.[/QUOTE]Lots of confusion in your post. The signs that say "Taxi to the city" are very well marked. I believe you have to go down one level from where you get luggage, but I'm not sure. I just never pay that much attention. In any case, go outside the building at the correct level and look for the many tables near the taxis.
It sounds like you got to the right place, but you NEVER pay anything to the people at the tables. I'm not sure where you were, but I've never seen anyone pay anything at the public taxi stands. You tell them where you are going, they right it on a paper, give half the paper to the driver, and give you the other half. I hope this helps. TTG
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1236258]Hey Bionicman, Please explane more. I have only been to BKK 6 or 7 times. Each time I come out of arrival there is a group of Thais at a table and the taxi's are lined up. You pay those people at the table and they give a ticket to the taxi driver. I have tried to get a taxi and the drivers won't budge without that ticket. You mentioon that it might because we are picking up a taxi at departures. I am comming directly out the door where you pick up your luggage and head outside. Also by main level do you mean the departure level. I thought that the departure level was above the arrival level. Help me out so I can save some baht next time around.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]When you exit immigration, the Thais at that level are offering you pre-paid "limousine" taxis; it will be more expensive.
You have 2 options to get a public meter taxi.
1) At the Ground level (lowest level) , there are public taxi stands where they will give you a coupon (you give half to your taxi driver, and you keep the other half if you want to complain later). Most taxi drivers will try to rip you off and say it's 500 baht to your destination. Just be firm (and polite) and say "meter!", and they will ALL turn on the meter. You need to add 50 baht (service charge) to the meter amount. Also need to add any tolls if applicable.
2) To save the 50 baht charge, you can go to the arrival level (highest level) , and take a meter taxi that dropped off a customer.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1236323]My preference would be Insomnia (Soi 12)[/QUOTE]Go down to Soi 2, across from Nana Entertainment Plaza. They set up after hours beer and drink stands all along the sidewalk. You will have plenty to choose from. These places usually set up music and stay open until dawn.
[QUOTE=Jbranch23; 1236052]Hello, all!
I'm arriving in BKK on a Thursday night around 11:30pm by the time I get situated I'm sure it will be around 1am. I don't want to waste any time LOL, Anyway I was wondering where could I go to find me a nice hottie to bring back around that time? I'm staying in a hotel in the Sukhumvit soi 7/1. I know the Beer Garden is around there but not sure I'll make it there on time. Any recommendations?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry, I responded earlier to the wrong post.
Go down to Soi 2, across from Nana Entertainment Plaza. They set up after hours beer and drink stands all along the sidewalk. You will have plenty of women to choose from. These places usually set up music and stay open until dawn.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1;1236236]If he quoted you a price of 350bht and you accepted, but then only paid 40bht then you would be in trouble. Several times I have been asked for a high price, usually late at night outside a busy tourist spot. Can either accept, negotiate or walk away. Accepting and then not paying is not a wise option.[/QUOTE]Unless one enjoys a good thrashing.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1236249]In Bangkok, always, Always, ALWAYS ask for the meter to be used. There are no exceptions, I REPEAT,"THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS".[/QUOTE]Ask for the meter to be used if you insist on taking a taxi parked at a night spot (instead of a cruising taxi) or if the meter is not turned on within a few seconds.
In practice I never have to ask for the meter to be used. They always use the meter.
But I never take the parked taxis. Those guys have to pay to get their spot, so you have to pay so they make money.
Very rarely a taxi will quote a fixed price before starting off or decline to go somewhere (maybe they're going off shift, or they fear bad traffic because of rain, or whatever). In such a case, I hop out and get the next taxi.
Many times a taxi has rounded down the fare when they drop me. Taxis have offered me discount when they missed a turn and had to drive on to make a you-turn.
I just felt I had to say a word for the taxi drivers. Most are cool.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1227592]I will NEVER diss the king because he makes this whole thread possible. So he is really cool in my book. I'm always proud to stand to honor him before a movie.
But I'm about to diss Air Asia. Before, I swore by Air Asia. But now I am fed up. Their website is shit. I tried to sign up for frequent flyer but it would / will not process it. But the main thing is that I have been trying everyday for the last 3 days to buy tickets for me, my mom, and my aunt to go to Chiang Mai. Roundtrip tickets for 3 people cost 10, 578 baht. But every time I try to purchase the tickets it says my Visa credit card is declined. This is the same card I have saved in my profile on their website. I have thousands of dollars available on my card. I called the bank that issued it and they said there is not even a record of a charge attempt. I have not been able to get through to Air Asia at the Thailand, England, Malaysia, or Australia numbers. I was finally able to get through on the Indonesia number and they were no help at all. After talking to the guy for 20 minutes and trying to put the card through myself in different currencies (BTW the tickets are $20 more if USD is selected) on his supervisor's advice, nothing: declined, declined, declined. Although it gave me a reservation number that would be good for 4 hours he said he can not take payment over the phone because it is a promo fare. It has to be done on the website. Ain't that a be*t&h?
I was so frustrated that I just hung up the skype. I did a search on google for flights and it gave me Nok Air as one carrier. So I went to their website and was able to purchase 3 tickets at the same time as the Air Asia flight in less than 5 minutes for 7, 740 baht, that is $90 less than Air Asia. Let's see how it goes with this carrier.
*Come to think of it when my cousin's girlfriend's brother in Malaysia tried to put my cousin's KUL BKK ticket on his Visa, the Air Asia site did the same thing. And that was in June. I ended up having to put my cousin's ticket on my MasterCard.[/QUOTE]A little less than one month later I received a reply (I think the website said I would have one in 5 days) :
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Hi BJ here.
Well we have been busy since before Christmas so I haven't had time for a break for far too long. The only time I have managed to get out anywhere was Christmas eve with some of the staff in Soi cowboy and New Year 's Eve when I went to nana plaza but found myself too tired to bother with a bar fine. At the start of February I have decided I deserve a few days off and intend to spend them in Pattaya. I think it's important to get out of Bangkok every now and again and working all the time does no one any good. Although some people prefer other locations in Thailand personally I look forward to my trips to Pattaya. First things first the last Sunday of January I am heading to Spanky's in Nana plaza as I have some unfinished business with a certain stunning lady there. I have a burning need to make up for the disappointment I inflicted on myself, through drinking too much, and the falling before the finish line the weekend before Christmas in Pattaya, with the same lady, I intend to be as fresh as a daisy this time and very sober so as to enjoy every minute of the session.
In the two and a half months since we opened I have to say I have been very surprised at just how professional the staff has been here at The Salon. I had numerous warnings from various sources, qualified and otherwise, about how much of a nightmare it would be. The general consensus was that Thai people are difficult to deal with and having so many ladies all in the same place would be a man management minefield. The biggest obstacle westerner's encounter with Thai's is that they try to manipulate them to their own established ways of doing things. This will only lead to a path of guaranteed frustration. You are better off just accepting that the cultural differences exist and don't try to eradicate them. As for some of the specific warnings I was told the ladies would be lazy, unreliable, untrustworthy and listless. I have to say none of these aspects have materialized in any way at all (so far). To be honest all the problems I have had to deal with have concerned customers and not staff. Even things that I assumed would come with the territory such as theft have been a no show.
Regards BJ.
P. S Pattaya here I come!
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I'm wondering if the Angels disco in the Nana Hotel in Bangkok has a lot of semi-pros. The reason I ask is, I find them to be better than regular pros, because they only do it once in a while. They often have a regular job and only do this sometimes. The hardened pros are often cold and lousy. Are there a lot of semi-pros in Angels? Are most of the girls there semi-pros?
Also, can anyone tell me a general idea of prices at Angels for ST and for LT? Do many of them do LT?
Also, any other places in the Sumkhumvit area where I can find semi-pros? If so, at what time are they there?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Henry R; 1236996]I'm wondering if the Angels disco in the Nana Hotel in Bangkok has a lot of semi-pros. The reason I ask is, I find them to be better than regular pros, because they only do it once in a while. They often have a regular job and only do this sometimes. The hardened pros are often cold and lousy. Are there a lot of semi-pros in Angels? Are most of the girls there semi-pros?
Also, can anyone tell me a general idea of prices at Angels for ST and for LT? Do many of them do LT?
Also, any other places in the Sumkhumvit area where I can find semi-pros? If so, at what time are they there?
Thanks[/QUOTE]First of all, the name of that disco is now Liquid.
Seems worse than last year and the young French manager who brought in a fashionable crowd is no longer around.
The after hours clubs, generally speaking are your best bet for the professional "semis". Nothing will get going till after 2 am. In Sukhmumvit area you have Liquid, Climaxx, and Insomnia. Several others like Shock 39 and the newest popular one, Mixx, are a short 40 baht cab ride away.
Many girl in after hours club will do LT. They'll usually be very happy with 2K baht. (Russians, Africans, and the higher end Thai girls that'll come in from Spasso or CM2 will want double or more)
[QUOTE=Madto; 1235444]On my second night, Partied a lot in a club called "Bossy"! Don't know which area. But all taxi drivers know it! The cover charge is 300THB per person and that includes one free drink. This is a place to easily pick up hookers from various different countries. And some of them were real stunners!
Specially this babe from Columbia who was classy and said that she has been an escort since the last 6 months only. She was about 5. 6 feet, fair, pretty eyes and sexy figure. The dress she wore was a cocktail type party dress with deep cleavage, which made her look very classy and sexy. Her charges were 3000thb for ST and 5000thb for LT. Sorry don't remember her name. But each and every passerby was looking at her and asking her (she was that pretty and sexy)
Unfortunately, I was unable to pick up these babes because of my wife traveling with me, otherwise the columbian was surely the perfect one. But would certainly recommend other forum members to keep a look out for her and enjoy!
Cheers[/QUOTE]Estefanie? Must have come over after striking out at CM2. Bossy is lame these days though.
Well I wasn't really scared at all.
Arrived Thursday and met up with my favourite Soi Cowboy girl at the bar. It was her birthday. She bought a bottle of Tequila for 400 Baht in order to shout tequilas to many friends and to save me money. Apparantly the bar charges customers 1800 for similar bottle of Tequila.
Sat with my girl N and two of her friends N2 and N3. Most Thai girl nicknames start with N. Had to stay late at the bar because was her birthday. She is quite popular and picked up a few be'day presents.
In the end took all 3 girls back to Admiral Premier, for sex, as I liked her 2 friends. One was very pretty to me (used to work at the bar) , and the other was not specially pretty but a nice body and character. The mamasan hinted she wanted to go too but I limited it to 3. As was a very late night after my flight I started to feel very tired by the end, but had managed to do N first, then her pretty friend N2, then N3 who was just so-so on the bed, so finished off with N again.
Was 6AM already so went to breakfast before going to sleep for just a few hours. N then telephoned early afternoon. I said I would see again that night, but she said she was really horny and could she come to Hotel right away (from Soi Cowboy).
She arrived soon and said she wanted to stay in the room for several hours of extended sex. I asked what made her so horny and she explained that she really got off on my giving her extended blow jobs. She also liked to fuck in different places in the room, specially, next to mirrors, and not necessarily on the bed. When I tried to get her to the bed quickly, she was more interested in very extended sex play leading up to the normal screwing, so that the total session could last and she could get several orgasms in. Once we got to the bed, she said that I could do "anything" that I wanted (more than once) , because she was having such a good time. She said that most guys just pay money and don't look after the girls desires so thoroughly. She said guys that just bang, bang, bang don't really get her juices going.
By the time we had finished the sex and chat session, we were stunned to find was already 10PM, so we had to go out to get some dinner (at Love Scene. Soi 23) , and she wanted me to accompany her to Sukhumvit Road stalls to buy a Vibrator. She said she would be too shy to buy it alone. She was going to buy some porn movies too but I indicated that could get redtube on internet for free. I recommended the X Art videos for her as they are quite beautiful and sexy. This was effective to turn on and make ready for the next session. She doesn't have big tits, and is small, but has a magnificently sexy bottom (best in the bar). Aged about 27.
N doesn't normally stay long time with customers, as she claims to not be able to sleep at night time, but last night she slept like the dead for several hours, following the late dinner and extended sex sessions. Just as well, as I needed a reasonable sleep too, after far too little the previous night.
Had to move Hotel today as AP was too expensive for the weekend Sat and Sun. She is coming back to my new Hotel shortly for the next sex about.
I just wanted to indicate that not all bar girls perform in a lousy lazy way with all customers. As always, your mileage may vary. This is not a girl looking for quick customer turnover, but rather to have a great time, get her rocks off (with the right customer) , and make some money on the side. She only turns up when she feels like to the bar (free lance) , but stills gets plenty of customers due to hot body and really great attitude with nice guys.
[QUOTE=Madto;1235726]A consultant cost 700THB and a nurse costed 1000THB for 30 minutes and included 1 BJ. If you wanted FJ, then an additional 1000THB had to be paid to the girl directly. There were about 5-6 girls on display in each of the categories. Out of which, only 1 of them was worth paying any money![/QUOTE]Great FR and place looks quite clean and comfy. Think you mixed up the prices, shd be Nurse=700THB and Consultant=1000THB.
Hi,
Planning to arrive in BKK on 26. Jan, and wanted to ask on any comments of Nurse Ms. Go Ingdown from Dr. BJ Salon.
Anyone tried her for LT recently?
Thanks alot
[QUOTE=Funnyboy76; 1236223]Last time I was I BKK I just grab the first taxi out in front of Nana to go back to the hotel. It was max 10 min drive and he want 350 bath for this short trip.
In Bangkok, always, Always, ALWAYS ask for the meter to be used. There are no exceptions, I REPEAT,"THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS".[/QUOTE]Except for my EXCEPTION (when they quote lower than what you know the meter will be).
I was staying in the suburbs and knew the meter was about 300 since I had made the run a few times. I jumped in, quoted the address and heard it would be 200B. I said fine, but halfway there he realized he'd made a mistake. I gave him 300 in the end since he was good natured about it.
[QUOTE=Philosophery;1236903]For problems in getting the Asian low cost airlines to approve your credit card charges, it is always better if you sign you card up for Verified by Visa. After signing-up my Chase credit cards, I have never had a problem again.[/QUOTE]+1 on that.
Thai was giving me hell with my Chase card and shot me down on successive days, but after getting Verified it went through ok.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1237163]Except for my EXCEPTION (when they quote lower than what you know the meter will be).
I was staying in the suburbs and knew the meter was about 300 since I had made the run a few times. I jumped in, quoted the address and heard it would be 200B. I said fine, but halfway there he realized he'd made a mistake. I gave him 300 in the end since he was good natured about it.[/QUOTE]You are a lucky man! That never happened to me, most of the taxi-drivers know their prices well.
I think they try the "fixed price" trick when they think they have a clue-less farang in their cab. Actually, I never had a cabbie even propose it when I took a taxi together with my Thai GF, although she is not from BKK and could not know the prices any better than I do.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1237129]Well I wasn't really scared at all.
Arrived Thursday and met up with my favourite Soi Cowboy girl at the bar. It was her birthday. She bought a bottle of Tequila for 400 Baht in order to shout tequilas to many friends and to save me money. Apparantly the bar charges customers 1800 for similar bottle of Tequila.
Sat with my girl N and two of her friends N2 and N3. Most Thai girl nicknames start with N. Had to stay late at the bar because was her birthday. She is quite popular and picked up a few be'day presents.
In the end took all 3 girls back to Admiral Premier, for sex, as I liked her 2 friends. One was very pretty to me (used to work at the bar) , and the other was not specially pretty but a nice body and character. The mamasan hinted she wanted to go too but I limited it to 3. As was a very late night after my flight I started to feel very tired by the end, but had managed to do N first, then her pretty friend N2, then N3 who was just so-so on the bed, so finished off with N again.
Was 6AM already so went to breakfast before going to sleep for just a few hours. N then telephoned early afternoon. I said I would see again that night, but she said she was really horny and could she come to Hotel right away (from Soi Cowboy).
She arrived soon and said she wanted to stay in the room for several hours of extended sex. I asked what made her so horny and she explained that she really got off on my giving her extended blow jobs. She also liked to fuck in different places in the room, specially, next to mirrors, and not necessarily on the bed. When I tried to get her to the bed quickly, she was more interested in very extended sex play leading up to the normal screwing, so that the total session could last and she could get several orgasms in. Once we got to the bed, she said that I could do "anything" that I wanted (more than once) , because she was having such a good time. She said that most guys just pay money and don't look after the girls desires so thoroughly. She said guys that just bang, bang, bang don't really get her juices going.
By the time we had finished the sex and chat session, we were stunned to find was already 10PM, so we had to go out to get some dinner (at Love Scene. Soi 23) , and she wanted me to accompany her to Sukhumvit Road stalls to buy a Vibrator. She said she would be too shy to buy it alone. She was going to buy some porn movies too but I indicated that could get redtube on internet for free. I recommended the X Art videos for her as they are quite beautiful and sexy. This was effective to turn on and make ready for the next session. She doesn't have big tits, and is small, but has a magnificently sexy bottom (best in the bar). Aged about 27.
N doesn't normally stay long time with customers, as she claims to not be able to sleep at night time, but last night she slept like the dead for several hours, following the late dinner and extended sex sessions. Just as well, as I needed a reasonable sleep too, after far too little the previous night.
Had to move Hotel today as AP was too expensive for the weekend Sat and Sun. She is coming back to my new Hotel shortly for the next sex about.
I just wanted to indicate that not all bar girls perform in a lousy lazy way with all customers. As always, your mileage may vary. This is not a girl looking for quick customer turnover, but rather to have a great time, get her rocks off (with the right customer) , and make some money on the side. She only turns up when she feels like to the bar (free lance) , but stills gets plenty of customers due to hot body and really great attitude with nice guys.[/QUOTE]The girl you were writing about only shows up for work once in a while and when she feels like it. That is almost like a semi-pro, so not surprised someone like her may get into the sex. Someone who does this everyday with lots of guys would probably in most cases be more cold and mechanical.
[QUOTE=Catire; 1237006]First of all, the name of that disco is now Liquid.
Seems worse than last year and the young French manager who brought in a fashionable crowd is no longer around.
The after hours clubs, generally speaking are your best bet for the professional "semis". Nothing will get going till after 2 am. In Sukhmumvit area you have Liquid, Climaxx, and Insomnia. Several others like Shock 39 and the newest popular one, Mixx, are a short 40 baht cab ride away.
Many girl in after hours club will do LT. They'll usually be very happy with 2K baht. (Russians, Africans, and the higher end Thai girls that'll come in from Spasso or CM2 will want double or more) [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info about places to meet semi-pros. One point is though, if you meet her in an afterhours place (ie after 2AM) , good chance she won't get back to your hotel until very late, maybe 4 or 5 AM.
So LT may be only until the early morning, especially if the girl is a pro who does this every night. So LT may actually be ST. If some of these Thai girls coming from Spasso or CM2 want 4K Baht, then that is really expensive if it's only for a couple of hours. That's why I'm leery of LT if I meet a girl very late at nite. Because LT may really be ST, but we may wind up paying for LT. But maybe some of the semi-pros, who don't do this every night, might stay later, in which case it could be a good deal.
Hi bros,
I am visiting Bangkok for the first time. I will be there on 20th (one night) and again 24th (one night) so do not have a whole bunch of time to frequent all the places.
I am a regula mongerer in Philippines, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong but not tried BKK before (surprisngly). I like to know where I find the premium top dollar girls (model types, etc). For example: Philippnes cebu (Arena, Jaguar) , Singapore (Brix) , Macau (18). These types of places or higher still.
Which place / area should I head to. I will be staying at Hilton Hotel.
Thanks
[QUOTE=ViceCaptain; 1237610]Hi bros,
I am visiting Bangkok for the first time. I will be there on 20th (one night) and again 24th (one night) so do not have a whole bunch of time to frequent all the places.
I am a regula mongerer in Philippines, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong but not tried BKK before (surprisngly). I like to know where I find the premium top dollar girls (model types, etc). For example: Philippnes cebu (Arena, Jaguar) , Singapore (Brix) , Macau (18). These types of places or higher still.
Which place / area should I head to. I will be staying at Hilton Hotel.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Poseidon, it's a huge complex, something like 10 stories maybe. It's near the Huai Khwang MRT stop, it's one of the most pricey places in Bangkok, that doesn't involve private membership. The higher you go in the building, the higher the prices go. There are some other Soappy places around here to, but Poseidon is the top of the line. The also charge a farang tax, so it'll be even a little bit more expensive if your a farang. Can't speak to the service as I have never tried any of them out, too rich for my blood.
Thong lor, has a whole bunch of "private clubs", all they take to join is a lot of cash, and they have girls that go out from what I've heard they start at the 10, 000THB range, probably not what you are looking for though if your only in town for one night.
You can also Google Bangkok Escorts, and you will find plenty of places charging an arm and leg, but most of these girls are just bar girls that also advertise through one of these agencies, and everyonce in awhile they get a good score from the website.
Poseidon is your best bet, they are rumored to employee the top Thai models and actresses, but there prices aren't high, they are astronomical.
[QUOTE=Philosophery;1236903]For problems in getting the Asian low cost airlines to approve your credit card charges, it is always better if you sign you card up for Verified by Visa. After signing-up my Chase credit cards, I have never had a problem again.[/QUOTE]Verified by Visa seems to help, and Chase is the BEST for international use. By far. I still have problems sometimes, especially with Air Asia, they are cheap, but they get their prices that way by saving on customer support. I always seem to have problems if book directly through PAL as well. Tiger Airways was almost impossible when I flew BKK-CRK, the only reason I stayed with it was to save the drive to and from Manilla. The cost savings weren't worth the agrivation of dealing with the whole mess, but landing 15 minuets away from Angeles City was. Thai, I've had about the best luck with, but they aren't cheap, they are usually the most expensive option.
Chase is the only US bank that I have found usefull, I HATE Capital One, and will bad mouth them to anyone willing to listen. I was stuck for days in AC once, without being able to get money, luckily I had enough "emergency cash" but it ruined the trip. I also had a buddy that had a terrible time with Well's Fargo when he was in Bangkok. He told them before he left he was going, then when he got here they said he had the wrong type of account, and they wanted to charge all types of exorbant fee's, and he could only ever get a person on the phone 8-5, M-F EST.
[QUOTE=Dveight;1237805]There are some other Soapy places around here to, but Poseidon is the top of the line.[/QUOTE]Copa Cabana is just round the corner from Poseidon but better lineups and better value for my money.
[QUOTE=Dveight;1237806]I HATE Capital One,[/QUOTE]But Capital One doesn't charge the 3% foreign transaction fee. One of only a few credit card companies that doesn't. I believe all the other credit cards you mentioned will charge that 3% foreign transaction fee.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1237821]But Capital One doesn't charge the 3% foreign transaction fee. One of only a few credit card companies that doesn't. I believe all the other credit cards you mentioned will charge that 3% foreign transaction fee.[/QUOTE]Chase has some as well that don't charge the 3% Foreign Transaction Fee. I have the United Chase Card, and there is no foreign transaction fee on it, but there is a yearly "maintenance fee".
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1237814]Copa Cabana is just round the corner from Poseidon but better lineups and better value for my money.[/QUOTE]Decent prices at Copa Cabana also! I have taken a few girls upstairs there. Usually runs beve assigned the gtween 1800-3000, depending on the arbitrary number they girl.
I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]You don't need a guide, ISG is your guide (although you have to sift through some of the garbage) as there is more than enough info here to help you. Is 3K just for guide services or is she providing sexual services too? The ISG PP may bash you for paying so much but depending on how long she stays with you and the service she provides, it may turn out to be a good deal. However, at best you should book her for one night and see how it goes before commiting to four nights with someone you never met and may not like.
[QUOTE=Henry R; 1237458]Thanks for the info about places to meet semi-pros. One point is though, if you meet her in an afterhours place (ie after 2AM) , good chance she won't get back to your hotel until very late, maybe 4 or 5 AM.
So LT may be only until the early morning, especially if the girl is a pro who does this every night. So LT may actually be ST. If some of these Thai girls coming from Spasso or CM2 want 4K Baht, then that is really expensive if it's only for a couple of hours. That's why I'm leery of LT if I meet a girl very late at nite. Because LT may really be ST, but we may wind up paying for LT. But maybe some of the semi-pros, who don't do this every night, might stay later, in which case it could be a good deal.[/QUOTE]That's a conversation you can have with the girl. Is she working the following day and if so. At what time, etc.
I've had girls stay with me till late afternoon / evening the following day. One called in sick to work, another time she had to go in and I understood perfectly.
Typically, she'll stay with you until around noon, but mileages vary and once again, that's something you can discuss beforehand. The nicer you are to the girl (and I don't mean monetarily) and the better lover, the more inclined she'll be to stay longer. However, be aware that the upper end girls will be more hard core and more inclined toward more expensive short times. There are plenty of girls at these place who aren't late night stragglers and refugees from the likes of CM2 and Spasso.
She will be living with me for 4 days / nights. The rate includes showing me around and sex.
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1237888]You don't need a guide, ISG is your guide (although you have to sift through some of the garbage) as there is more than enough info here to help you. Is 3K just for guide services or is she providing sexual services too? The ISG PP may bash you for paying so much but depending on how long she stays with you and the service she provides, it may turn out to be a good deal. However, at best you should book her for one night and see how it goes before commiting to four nights with someone you never met and may not like.[/QUOTE]Qq
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]Send me a PM. I have some someone in mind that will take good care of you.
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]Hifly,
Send me the pic, and the name of the girl, and I can advise you. There are quite a few girls who offer the same service at the same rates. I have experienced a few and they have generally been good. I have had an 80% excellent experience, which in LOS is great! Maybe I can recognize the girl and be able to guide you.
[QUOTE=Dveight; 1237805]Poseidon, it's a huge complex, something like 10 stories maybe. It's near the Huai Khwang MRT stop, it's one of the most pricey places in Bangkok, that doesn't involve private membership. The higher you go in the building, the higher the prices go. There are some other Soappy places around here to, but Poseidon is the top of the line. The also charge a farang tax, so it'll be even a little bit more expensive if your a farang. Can't speak to the service as I have never tried any of them out, too rich for my blood.
Thong lor, has a whole bunch of "private clubs", all they take to join is a lot of cash, and they have girls that go out from what I've heard they start at the 10, 000THB range, probably not what you are looking for though if your only in town for one night.
You can also Google Bangkok Escorts, and you will find plenty of places charging an arm and leg, but most of these girls are just bar girls that also advertise through one of these agencies, and everyonce in awhile they get a good score from the website.
Poseidon is your best bet, they are rumored to employee the top Thai models and actresses, but there prices aren't high, they are astronomical.[/QUOTE]Hi Dveight,
I appreciate your help. Its exactly what I am looking for. Actually, although its just one night, I will want the girl I select to spend the night with me at my hotel. I like to take my time to select from a good range and then pick the one I like the best. I am fine to pay the 10, 000 THB plus any tips if she is good. I will be there for one night and then will be back in BKK for another night a few days later, so will hopefully experience it twice. I would love to see the who go-go scene as well but I feel that is for a longer stay. Hopefully another time soon.
The other places that seem to be good bets from what I have read are Insomnia (a disco I think) and Pegasus. From the reports both seem to be high end.
Any more tips will be helpful and I promise to report back in detail.
[QUOTE=Hifly;1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.[/QUOTE]As Run Mann was saying you don't need any stinking guide. Especially for 4 days at 3K/day. All the hotels have travel desks where you can book tours. Why would you want to be stuck with the same person for 4 days? And believe me when I say that their photo usually looks much better than them. But if you want to run the risk just let us know how it turns out for you.
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]Hifly. If you do decide to stay with one girl for 4 days. I would DEFINITELY not pay her upfront. Even though you may agree to stay w / her for 4 days, I would advise you to amend that by suggesting a day-by-day negotiation where you can still offer the 3k per day, yet not lock yourself into a 4 day deal if she's not your type. Cheers
Someone else suggested that if you do decide to spend time with this girl, then not give her the entire 12k upfront. Instead, make the deal for a day-by-day basis just to make sure that you are compatible before making the commitment. That is certainly sound advice.
There is also a common sense aspect to the situation. Unless you know the girl, you really have no way of knowing that she won't disappear after she gets your 12k. Those of us who partake in the hobby around the world may enjoy the company of a sweet working girl, but we also make sure that our money and travel documents and other valuables are locked up in the hotel room safe when she spends time with us. Its not that we think that every working girl is a crook out to get us. But why tempt her and why take a chance?
If you are indeed looking for a local guide to see the sights in Bangkok and surroundings, another option would be to hire a legit guide for sightseeing, and then spend some time with a working girl either incall or outcall in your hotel room. If you spend sometime researching travel websites, you'll find contact information for a couple of legit guides, and then search the ISG for the P4P part of your trip.
Use commonsense and enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237901]She will be living with me for 4 days / nights. The rate includes showing me around and sex.
Hifly.
Qq[/QUOTE]As you can see you you now have other offers just as you will when you land in BKK, this is the land of plenty, enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1237854]I am visiting BKK for business in Feb. I am not into mongering at all, but wanted to get my feet wet. I have an offer from a girl who claims to be a tour guide but happy to stay with me for 4 nights. The asking price is 3K per night, that is 12K for 4 nights. I have her pic and she looks decent enough. Appreciate your advice whether this is a good idea and about the price.
P. S. I am from India.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]If you from India, that is a good price. HAHA, just kidding man.
I tried what you are doing a few years back. I think you may get sick of her after a day or two. Especially when you see the opportunities. Also, did you get details of her services? Don't be shy. Ask her if she BBBJ, kissing, rim, etc. If you don't ask a lot of times they will just not do it.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Greetings.
Does anyone have recommendations for life changing BBBJCIM and / or prostate stimulation in BKK?
I want awesome blowjobs to rock my world and recent intelligence would be great! Price is not important.
[quote=pahllus maximus; 1238493]greetings.
does anyone have recommendations for life changing bbbjcim and / or prostate stimulation in bkk?
i want awesome blowjobs to rock my world and recent intelligence would be great! price is not important.[/quote]to pahilus.
the best bbbj cim i ever have in thailand is at bangkok tulip massage girl there forgot her name give me one of the longest bbbj she blow me for over 20 min and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] in pattaya by bee she have very good skill, i think best bbbj in the world is at thailand or brazil girl there are very skill at that.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1238318]I am overwhelmed by the advice I have received here in the forum as well as private messages. I will report my decision as well as experience! I have added the pic as some of you have asked me.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]Hope it is here and not here younger sister.
[QUOTE=Lalake;1238093]Hifly. If you do decide to stay with one girl for 4 days. I would DEFINITELY not pay her upfront. Even though you may agree to stay w / her for 4 days, I would advise you to amend that by suggesting a day-by-day negotiation where you can still offer the 3k per day, yet not lock yourself into a 4 day deal if she's not your type. Cheers[/QUOTE]Hifly,
Good advice from Lalake. For me, I like to meet a girl, and if chemistry is good, take her for a short time (2 hours). If that went very well and we hit it off, then I might take her again, perhaps for an all night. After we know each other well, and are having a good time together, then I might consider taking her for 4 days. I once took a Tulip girl on a 4 day holiday and it was great.
Definitely pay per day (not lump sum) unless you know her very well. I paid for my 4 day holiday with girl, at the end because she knew she could trust me, but was more than 3k per day, because she was a superstar (making a lot per day normally).
A girl hard up for money may well do 3K per day, but in your photo she seems too pretty for that price (skeptical).
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1238580]Hifly,
Good advice from Lalake. For me, I like to meet a girl, and if chemistry is good, take her for a short time (2 hours). If that went very well and we hit it off, then I might take her again, perhaps for an all night. After we know each other well, and are having a good time together, then I might consider taking her for 4 days. I once took a Tulip girl on a 4 day holiday and it was great.[/QUOTE]ST? I think you missed the point. The point was that she was going to primarily be his tour guide.
I got this in my PM. Appreciate your views.
Quote.
Bad Karma.
You made a mistake in posting her pic in a prostitute forum. What if she or someone she knows ever gets to see her pic in amongst all the other prostitutes? Cause she agrees to money does not make her a prostitute. It can be a 1 off for her cause she likes you, and or is desperate for money. You have sent out bad kharma with the girl, even if she does not ever learn about her pic on prostitute website, so expect the relationship to affected accordingly. Next I suppose, after you have fxxcked her you will give the guys her work address. Thinking of yourself too much, think of others. She has given you credit for being a nice guy and you have trashed that before you have even met her. Bad karma = bad results.
UnQuote.
Take care,
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1238318]I am overwhelmed by the advice I have received here in the forum as well as private messages. I will report my decision as well as experience! I have added the pic as some of you have asked me.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1238594]I got this in my PM. Appreciate your views.
Quote.
Bad Karma.
You made a mistake in posting her pic in a prostitute forum. What if she or someone she knows ever gets to see her pic in amongst all the other prostitutes? Cause she agrees to money does not make her a prostitute. It can be a 1 off for her cause she likes you, and or is desperate for money. You have sent out bad kharma with the girl, even if she does not ever learn about her pic on prostitute website, so expect the relationship to affected accordingly. Next I suppose, after you have fxxcked her you will give the guys her work address. Thinking of yourself too much, think of others. She has given you credit for being a nice guy and you have trashed that before you have even met her. Bad karma = bad results.
UnQuote.
Take care,
Hifly.[/QUOTE]Yes, well my view is, posting and ISG members private message to you on the Forum is bad karma, yes.
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus; 1238493]Greetings.
Does anyone have recommendations for life changing BBBJCIM and / or prostate stimulation in BKK?
I want awesome blowjobs to rock my world and recent intelligence would be great! Price is not important.[/QUOTE]I have had some good results from DR. BJ, Soi 7/1. The girls are not stunners, but some get pretty nasty and will do anything you want.
Has the Eden Club, which was on Soi 7 or Soi 9 near Sukhumvit Road, closed down and moved to Pattaya? If so, does anyone know where in Pattaya? (The Eden Club specialized in and only allowed more than one girl at a time).
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus; 1238493]Greetings.
Does anyone have recommendations for life changing BBBJCIM and / or prostate stimulation in BKK?
I want awesome blowjobs to rock my world and recent intelligence would be great! Price is not important.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I think Akane Chidlom can assist with the prostate massage, lucky dip on the BBBJ skills I fear. I have found Chinese staffed shops to be more skilled in this area, perhaps a walk around Chinatown? You can often get this at places that offer Nuru Nuru.
There is always Google.
Tuck
[QUOTE=Henry R;1238650]Has the Eden Club, which was on Soi 7 or Soi 9 near Sukhumvit Road, closed down and moved to Pattaya? If so, does anyone know where in Pattaya? (The Eden Club specialized in and only allowed more than one girl at a time).[/QUOTE]Eden is still on Soi 7/1. I saw it 2 hours ago.
In Pattaya you can find Devils Den which is more or less the same.
T. 72
Ignore the judgmental pundits Hifly. When a woman agrees to be your personal tour guide and provides you with sex for money she is a Ho. By posting her pic and sharing her info with interested members you would be generating potentially new business and income for her which will bring you good karma.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1238193]If you from India, that is a good price. HAHA, just kidding man.
I tried what you are doing a few years back. I think you may get sick of her after a day or two. Especially when you see the opportunities. Also, did you get details of her services? Don't be shy. Ask her if she BBBJ, kissing, rim, etc. If you don't ask a lot of times they will just not do it.
Good luck whatever you decide.[/QUOTE]I would also ask her how she feels about you sampling other women. It could work out that she could help you negotiate and even join in if you'd like. Anything is possible in LOS.
Pogo
I politely asked her that question, and she seemed to be cool about it. She even suggested that she could introduce to some of her friends. Lets see what happens!
Thanks for the advice.
Take care,
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1238769]I would also ask her how she feels about you sampling other women. It could work out that she could help you negotiate and even join in if you'd like. Anything is possible in LOS.
Pogo[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1238582]ST? I think you missed the point. The point was that she was going to primarily be his tour guide.[/QUOTE]Come now. This is a mongering forum. We all know that that the fuckability is far more important than the tour guide expertise. If you take a girl for 4 days, be damn sure she is so hot that you won't be craving for every other chick passing by. Otherwise she will just be nuisance value.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1238962]Come now. This is a mongering forum. We all know that that the fuckability is far more important than the tour guide expertise. If you take a girl for 4 days, be damn sure she is so hot that you won't be craving for every other chick passing by. Otherwise she will just be nuisance value.[/QUOTE]Most definitely. I can't go 24 hours with the same chick. 4 days would definitely be out of the question.
I agree, it is a challenge! But, look at it from another point of view. I am going for business. This is a side entertainment for me. In any case, I don't crave for sex. In fact, I find it hard to just hire a girl like a cab.
I am looking for companionship (good conversation, good food, taking in the charms of the place etc.) and of course some intimate moments.
Is it so out of place in the mongering forum?
Take care,
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1238970]Most definitely. I can't go 24 hours with the same chick. 4 days would definitely be out of the question.[/QUOTE]
Is the Termae Bar still around? It's on Sukhumvit Road, near Soi 11. I think it's close to the Robinson Department Store. If still around, how is the Termae Bar nowadays?
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1238318]I am overwhelmed by the advice I have received here in the forum as well as private messages. I will report my decision as well as experience! I have added the pic as some of you have asked me.
Take care,
Hifly[/QUOTE]My advice to you for 3k a night is simple. Go to Soi Cowboy every night and you can pick up a stunner for LT if you want. I believe if this girl is charging 3k for tour guide services per day any sexual related tasks will be extra or will involve tips on your part. I have been in BKK for two months now and it is very east to get around to see all the sites and to make friends as well. No need for the tour guide! As for the jerk who sent you a PM about posting this picture. It is none of his business about the pics you post on here. If she advertises her services by going on dating web sites she will thank you in the end for sending biz her way. As for the second jerk who gave you shit for posting the PM in the forum, I believe it was completely acceptable to do so. The member who sent you the PM has too much time on his hands and same for the other member who gave you shit for posting the PM in the forum. This forum is about mongering and sharing. If you don't like it then spend your free time elsewhere.
Just got back from an awesome time at Dr BJ bar on Soi 7/1.
Pretty straightforward. Walk in. Look up at girls wearing white (700). Girls in colors (1000). Pick a beauty, make a selection at the bar for you and your beauty if you so choose.
Go up the stairs to the private rooms. And let the specialist handle the rest.
Had a nice chat with the manager about Thailand vs PI vs China. And about BKK vs Pattaya. Going to go try them all.
If you want a great blow job in a clean area, head directly to Dr. BJ.
My chosen girl had some bolton tits but nice big lips. No complaints from either end. If they opened earlier I might head back before my flight tomorrow!
[QUOTE=Henry R;1239045]Is the Termae Bar still around? It's on Sukhumvit Road, near Soi 11. I think it's close to the Robinson Department Store. If still around, how is the Termae Bar nowadays?[/QUOTE]It is actually located in the basement of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel Soi 15, Sukhumvit Road. Conveniently located between Nana and Asoke BTS. I was there a week before X'mas and it was jammed packed with women / guys. I think it opens around 8-9 pm and closes around 2 am. I would guess there were at least 80-100 girls in there and about 50-70 guys during peak hours. The hottest girls were lining up on the left side (the bar / cashier side) and the less expensive ones were standing or sitting on stools on the right. In the middle is a big winding bar where all the guys can sit, order drinks and scope out the talent. There are also some girls sitting on these stools, waiting for customers. There are tables in the backside 'to interview' the girls that catch your fancy. There are tables on the sides also but the girls stand in front of them, presumerably to sit and talk to them if you are interested.
Since I was just interested in the hottest ones, I hung out at the bar / cashier side, but towards the other end (they seem to get prettier as they move away from the cashier towards the stairs in the back). The talent was very good when I was there. The prettier ones were 19-22 yo, fair-complexioned but also darker, exotic ones if you like them that way. But they were pricey, most were quoting 2000 Baht for ST (2-3 hours) and 4000. 6000 Baht all-nighters. Some of them are real stunners, reminds you of Asian college cuties: tall thin and very pretty. If I had to put a number scale, I'd say 8. 5 out of 10 for looks and 8/10 for body (some dress down so you can clearly see their tight body while others cover up their goods to look classy but you know they have the goods just looking at how nicely the clothing is covering their contours). I hired one for 2000B ST as she does not do LT (work next morning). She was dressed formally with black pants and nice blouse not giving anything away except subtle hints of her feminem endowments. She was pretty enough for me. All you have to do, if they are interested in you, is look her way, they will be smiling, pretending to be shy, and then waiting for you to give hand signal to come over. The more aggressive ones will beacon you over to sit. But this girl knew she didn't have to and just waited and see some of the guys in action in this top-end corner. I saw a few drunk guys, a fat balding guy, a middle-aged skinny geek acting all dorky, all accoasted these girls while I was still making up my mind. To my amazement, none of the girls would give them the time of the day. Maybe they were regulars that only look, but I wanted to grab them aside and tell them to stop acting goofey and just sit and act cool. As this is what most guys were doing. Anyways, the night was getting late and she seemed to be the best one there so I beaconed her over and she came immediately. We talked the business end and within 5 minutes we were out the door walking to my hotel 10 minutes away. When I unwrapped her, I guessed right, she had a tall, slender tight body. 9/10 in my book. She told me she worked at the mall during the daytime selling cosmetics and does this on the side whenever she needed extra cash. Perhaps BS story but I wouldn't doubt it as she is attractive enough to play that part. She was no starfish, very cheery and accomodating, because of her braces though, the smoke was covered. I know it was pricey but I think only about 10% of girls there would I consider top-end girls worthy of this rate. Maybe it was high-season, maybe I paid too much, but I enjoyed the time I spent with her. We even went out for a cheap eat afterwards, very much GFE, at least she made me feel like one, always chatting, smiling asking questions however irrelevant they seem. I also once had a dud that did not speak much and lost interest quickly after we did the deed. I'd say majority of girls there are 6's & 7's (80%) while 8/9's (10-15%). The age range is 18. 35. I've heard that the less attractive ones costs 1/2 of the prices of what the top-end ones were asking. So far, I like the system, no pressure to buy drinks, the girls just stand there waiting while you make up your mind. You can walk in / out and look without any hassle from management. I think I was there for 3 hours one night and bought only 2 drinks which were relatively cheap compared to beer bars and go-gos prices. I also went to BeerGarden, the other 'hot' FL bar with a similar system. There were tons of girls there during the day / night, but I have to say they were definetely not in same league as Thermae.
[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1239090]Just got back from an awesome time at Dr BJ bar on Soi 7/1.
Pretty straightforward. Walk in. Look up at girls wearing white (700). Girls in colors (1000). Pick a beauty, make a selection at the bar for you and your beauty if you so choose.[/QUOTE]I don't know, maybe it was the daylight, but when I walked past there a few times, something went limp and even Viagra could not have awoken him. Maybe it was just bad line-up.
It's definitely a good thing to do, but 4 days of it might be too much. Then again it could be just right considering you will be working in between. Usually if I'm mongering in a new place then I let the hooker from the night before be my tour guide for the next day.
[QUOTE=Hifly; 1238999]I agree, it is a challenge! But, look at it from another point of view. I am going for business. This is a side entertainment for me. In any case, I don't crave for sex. In fact, I find it hard to just hire a girl like a cab.
I am looking for companionship (good conversation, good food, taking in the charms of the place etc.) and of course some intimate moments.
Is it so out of place in the mongering forum?
Take care,
Hifly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Henry R;1239045]Is the Termae Bar still around? It's on Sukhumvit Road, near Soi 11. I think it's close to the Robinson Department Store. If still around, how is the Termae Bar nowadays?[/QUOTE]Still there. Seems to cater to a mostly Japanese clientele these days but everyone is welcome.
[QUOTE=Henry R;1239045]Is the Termae Bar still around? It's on Sukhumvit Road, near Soi 11. I think it's close to the Robinson Department Store. If still around, how is the Termae Bar nowadays?[/QUOTE]Its between Soi 13-15, still going strong but most of the girls are after the Japanese and will not go with you,
You can give it a try but you need to be ready to get turned down, nice thing is no ladyboys downstairs but they do hang out near the entrance,
BK
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1239219][b] Most of the girls are after the Japanese and will not go with you, [/b]
BK[/QUOTE]And why should they? Can't beat 3 inches for 3 minutes for 3 thousand.
[QUOTE=Catire;1239220]And why should they? Can't beat 3 inches for 3 minutes for 3 thousand.[/QUOTE]To Catire
Corrections I think it was one minute two inches and three thousand Baht.
Fast Eddie 48
Jorian,
Thanks a lot for the outstanding report. I hope to check it out this time.
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1239219]Its between Soi 13-15, still going strong but most of the girls are after the Japanese and will not go with you,
BK[/QUOTE]I went there quite early with a friend recently. Entrance is in Sukumvit road (downstairs) slightly west of Soi 15. Definitely were girls that were keen even tough I'm not Japanese. Not every girl there can get Japanese customers very easily. Nice guys not too stingy will do fine. Guys on a tight budget may blame the Japanese customers, for spoiling the market place.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1239374]I've had the same experience. Whenever I stroll past a BJ bar all I see is girls ugly as sin and they are the hot ones. LOL.[/QUOTE]BJ bars have been known to have acceptable looking girls, on occasions, but don't bank on it. Places like Eden are generally full of uglies too. Lets face it, stunning girls don't have to cop loads of cum for a living. BJ bars are well suited to guys that can only escape from the Mrs. For 20 mins. 90 mins might arouse suspicion I think.
[QUOTE=Jorian;1239126]I also went to BeerGarden, the other 'hot' FL bar with a similar system. There were tons of girls there during the day / night, but I have to say they were definetely not in same league as Thermae.[/QUOTE]Yes what you say is true but you did not say that you pay 1000 bath for beer garden girls.
I'm looking for pieced pussy / nipps. Where can I find? According to the info about girl in Erotica at NP, I didn't find her.
Thanks!
Cheers.
T. 72
[QUOTE=Harold444;1239570]Think about this. If japanese paid what a cheapo farang paid the girls would still flock to them because of their friendly demeanor. An arab could pay twice what a japanese pay and would still have few takers-they just not appealing to the girls.[/QUOTE]What happens when the Japanese is the unfriendly drunken cheapo and the farang (or Arab) is the opposite? Do Thai girls still love the former?
I read this claim somewhere:
[QUOTE=]Yes, I get all the sex I can handle on this budget. I leave it to others to pay huge barfines and then from 1000 to 3000B for a ST. I know a lot of farangs who live here, and none of them pay those kind of rates. We just laugh with the ladies as they tell us how much they got some horny guy to pay.[/QUOTE]If a P4P TG is taking less than 1000B ST from farangs in BKK, what does that say about her in terms of looks, intelligence, age, self-marketing, or being a fresh from the north clueness newbie, etc? Though I can see this happening if it's Brad Pitt, or a young handsome rich marriagable potential BF or the end of the night in low season with no customers in town & tough economic times, etc.
Bangkok is still having trouble getting some items in the stores. For example coke, sprite, kleenex brand tissues, etc have been at times off the shelves or in short supply at places I've been to in the lower sukhumvit area.
The SW night action in the usual locations has also diminished considerably, post flooding, from my observations, possibly LE hassling being one major reason, new construction another. OTOH I've noticed some branching out to other street spots in the nearby vicinity. Others may be going to indoor venues like beergarden {soi 7} or thermae {soi 15}. And there seems to be substantially more late morning and afternoon action, which would be before the time of day when men in uniform conduct their 1000B a head raids.
[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1239685]I'm looking for pieced pussy / nipps. Where can I find? According to the info about girl in Erotica at NP, I didn't find her.[/QUOTE]Keep going back, she will be there, but the one I am thinking of is younger, has "Fuck Me" tattooed above her pussy and usually gets taken early. She also goes bareback.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1239555]BJ bars have been known to have acceptable looking girls, on occasions, but don't bank on it. Places like Eden are generally full of uglies too. Lets face it, stunning girls don't have to cop loads of cum for a living. BJ bars are well suited to guys that can only escape from the Mrs. For 20 mins. 90 mins might arouse suspicion I think.[/QUOTE]After a delightful afternoon spent exploring the bowels of Pantip Plaza (a must see for the computer interested) I stopped in at SOL for a little afternoon respite. Outside I immediately found a cute 22 year old that was a solid 7. Nice tits, good attitude (thought we really weren't together all that long) and very good (not exceptional) BJ skills. With an hours worth of make-up like all go-go girls, she could easily have been a solid 8. Said she started work at either 11 or 12 noon, I forgot, but she agreed to come to my hotel in the mornings before work for a morning BJ. Got her number but never used it as I subsequently made other arrangements closer to the hotel (Peninsula) for that. So I think it's always worth a look.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1239790]After a delightful afternoon spent exploring the bowels of Pantip Plaza (a must see for the computer interested) I stopped in at SOL for a little afternoon respite. Outside I immediately found a cute 22 year old that was a solid 7. Nice tits, good attitude (thought we really weren't together all that long) and very good (not exceptional) BJ skills. With an hours worth of make-up like all go-go girls, she could easily have been a solid 8. Said she started work at either 11 or 12 noon, I forgot, but she agreed to come to my hotel in the mornings before work for a morning BJ. Got her number but never used it as I subsequently made other arrangements closer to the hotel (Peninsula) for that. So I think it's always worth a look.[/QUOTE]So what does pantip plaza, computers, BJ bars, a girl who blew you once, have in common? Why do we need to know about a girl you made arrangements with to come to your hotel every morning and then changed your mind because you found another girl who lived closer to your location? May I ask if the girl was coming to you then why does it matter where she lives or how close she is to you as long as she arrives promptly everyday? I am sorry but this is the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time1 It's right up with with all this talk about BKK tap water, orchids, and where to find the best burger in BKK LOL
I've had the idea for a long time, to have sex with a pregnant girl, and next week I am comming to Bangkok (first time in a long time). Does anybody know where to find a girl like that around Sukhumvit or in a soapie?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1239932]So what does pantip plaza, computers, BJ bars, a girl who blew you once, have in common? Why do we need to know about a girl you made arrangements with to come to your hotel every morning and then changed your mind because you found another girl who lived closer to your location? May I ask if the girl was coming to you then why does it matter where she lives or how close she is to you as long as she arrives promptly everyday? I am sorry but this is the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time1 It's right up with with all this talk about BKK tap water, orchids, and where to find the best burger in BKK LOL[/QUOTE]Let's see. You are a horny 16 year old who hates reading. Try taking some English classes in your middle school and understand that the author gave a brief description of his day before going to SOL. Unlike you we all don't go looking for sex 25 hours a day. We like to mix it up with other activities, like where to find the best water / beer / burger / DVD stores et al.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1239932]So what does pantip plaza, computers, BJ bars, a girl who blew you once, have in common? Why do we need to know about a girl you made arrangements with to come to your hotel every morning and then changed your mind because you found another girl who lived closer to your location? May I ask if the girl was coming to you then why does it matter where she lives or how close she is to you as long as she arrives promptly everyday? I am sorry but this is the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time1 It's right up with with all this talk about BKK tap water, orchids, and where to find the best burger in BKK LOL[/QUOTE]Well your right, I was rambling a bit but Syzygies had suggested that BJ bars are well suited to guys sneaking away from some obligation.
I was suggesting another value like after a long day in the back of a tuk tuk in sweltering BKK humidity and pollution, with an ice cold beer and a blowjob without a barfine and all that goes with it. And I guess I could give you her number but you probably don't need it...
So to be frank I never noticed you before but I just checked your last 10 or 12 posts and it seems that most were just complaining about something / someone. So why aren't you posting more what you preach or is THAT your defining quality and what you expect / want to read in others posts?
Just asking.
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I've had the idea for a long time, to have sex with a prego. Does anybody know where to find a girl like that around Sukhumvit or in Pattaya? SW, gogo or Soapie.
Thanks in advance
[quote=just seven;1239090]just got back from an awesome time at dr bj bar on soi 7/1.[/quote]and i had a pretty decent visit last week too. picked a 'consultant' (for no other reason than she had the largest boobs of any of the balcony dwellers. of which there were about 7 available when i went in mid-afternoon) and she came down to collect me. the walk up through the 'girl scout campout' was different, but we were soon safely ensconsed in one of the cubbies. no this is where this place beats [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], the cubbies are actually somewhat comfortable and private, and a sink is provided for sanitation rather than a handful of wet wipes!
the deed itself was comptetent without being in any ways spectacular. i was able to grab boob while she worked away, and i was only slightly distracted by the action in the adjacent stalls. some of the other punters were operating on a serious hair-trigger. me, i took 20 minutes of pretty solid attention before i delievered a nqns ending.
if i recall correctly, i think i have been in the bar that was on this site before. sort of just along from eden. the medical theme (and the all white interior) didn't do much for me, but i enjoyed my time.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1239926]When I see japanese boys fist fighting thais ill let you know! I try to deal with what happens not what may or may not happen.[/QUOTE]Who said anything about fist fighting? Though the Japanese can go many levels worse than that, as in starting wars with other countries without warning. They are also often labelled zenophobic and some people have found them to be rude. In Thailand they are certainly not all paying top prices for hookers, as in Thermae or Rainbow iv, for examples, and a few girls I've spoken to did not appear to be impressed by them.
[QUOTE=Zahle; 1240158]I've had the idea for a long time, to have sex with a pregnant girl, and next week I am comming to Bangkok (first time in a long time). Does anybody know where to find a girl like that around Sukhumvit or in a soapie?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Bumrungrad hospital. 2nd floor, Women's Centre.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1239555]Places like Eden are generally full of uglies too. Lets face it, stunning girls don't have to cop loads of cum for a living.[/QUOTE]I was in Eden last December and I do not remember that the place was "full of uglies". When I was there, about 6 or 7 ladies were available. I picked a slim one and she choose the other one (a bit more buxom). I guess they were both in their thirties and that was fine with me. As has been said before, the game is somewhat mechanical and scripted, unless you impose your will, which I did not as their play was quite arousing enough for my tastes.
The first shot was a BBBJCIM, followed by some hugging and cuddling, a lesbian (with strap-on dildo) interlude (which was well done and made me hard again) and finally mish and doggy (with the second lady, playing with my balls) for my second shot in the space of 90 minutes. The room is full of mirrors, so wherever your eyes stray you will see yourself fucking some hot Thai lady. It is like being in your very own porn-movie.
If you don't go there in the hope to find a GFE you will not be disappointed.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1240209]Well your right, I was rambling a bit but Syzygies had suggested that BJ bars are well suited to guys sneaking away from some obligation.
I was suggesting another value like after a long day in the back of a tuk tuk in sweltering BKK humidity and pollution, with an ice cold beer and a blowjob without a barfine and all that goes with it. And I guess I could give you her number but you probably don't need it.
So to be frank I never noticed you before but I just checked your last 10 or 12 posts and it seems that most were just complaining about something / someone. So why aren't you posting more what you preach or is THAT your defining quality and what you expect / want to read in others posts?
Just asking.[/QUOTE]These reports were all within 1 month hot shot! I have more to report but too busy these days looking for the closest morning blow job to me condo LOL.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1240209]Well your right, I was rambling a bit but Syzygies had suggested that BJ bars are well suited to guys sneaking away from some obligation.
I was suggesting another value like after a long day in the back of a tuk tuk in sweltering BKK humidity and pollution, with an ice cold beer and a blowjob without a barfine and all that goes with it. And I guess I could give you her number but you probably don't need it.
So to be frank I never noticed you before but I just checked your last 10 or 12 posts and it seems that most were just complaining about something / someone. So why aren't you posting more what you preach or is THAT your defining quality and what you expect / want to read in others posts?
Just asking.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Duniawala;1240200]Let's see. You are a horny 16 year old who hates reading. Try taking some English classes in your middle school and understand that the author gave a brief description of his day before going to SOL. Unlike you we all don't go looking for sex 25 hours a day. We like to mix it up with other activities, like where to find the best water / beer / burger / DVD stores et al.[/QUOTE]If I wanted to read a good book I would go to the library LOL. I think it is time for you to retire mate!
After 6 weeks in Bangkok I thought I would give a more detailed report of my findings. I will start with the freebie or non pros scene. My first week I had arranged an airport pick up from a hotee I met off Badoo. She picked me up with a friend and drove me to my place, helped me get a sim card, and then we had dinner. That night she was a maniac in bed. Great GFE. She gave me a great BBBJ and then climbed on top for the a great ride. We did not sleep all night. Second night she took me to Climax bar. I was a little drunk but was still able to take in the scene and juggle my time with her. I have attached her picture for reference. On several occasions I pulled girls from this bar. The younger girl I pulled for 1500ST. Only 22. She gave ok BJ's but was a maniac when it came down to fucking. She just kept talking dirty while fucking and saying all kinds of crazy shit! The next girl is a freebie from date in asia. We went out three times and the third night she fucked me like it was goona be her last. She insisted I pull my condom off and cum in her mouth.
Next is soapies and massage. I prefer nataree because of the great selection. I did a report on a soapy girl from here but this time I chose one from the outside. White skin even though the picture does not do her justice. She gave great head and can ride me like no tomorrow. Every position imaginable was on the menu. No second pop and 2500ST.
In my opinion the best Go go in BKK is Bacara. As reported before I pulled his hotee for one whole weekend, a little pricey at 5000 for the weekend and about 13000 total for all the times I saw her over a month. Could not get enough of me.
Sorry hit upload button instead of picture LOL here is her picture one night when we went out for dinner. So the summary. Climax is my favorite bar for freelance and freebies. Date in Asia and Thail friendly great for non pros and freebies as well. Bacara is in my opinion the best go go bar in BKK and Nataree is the best massage. I plan to check out Dr BJ's, Insomnia, Thermae, and a trip to Pattaya soon. I hope to have some nice pics to share.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1239772]Keep going back, she will be there, but the one I am thinking of is younger, has "Fuck Me" tattooed above her pussy and usually gets taken early. She also goes bareback.[/QUOTE]I found a girl with pierced tits at Long Gun, Soi Cowboy. Tall, short brownish hair, good performer during the midnight show (so flexible).
Looking for good 3some. I thought about Mango, SW, maybe Tulip. What is your suggestion? I think it's quite risky to pick girls up from gogo, I need girls who working together well (lesbian show, double BJ etc.). Tried Eden but it was disappointing.
T. 72
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1240200]Let's see. You are a horny 16 year old who hates reading. Try taking some English classes in your middle school and understand that the author gave a brief description of his day before going to SOL. Unlike you we all don't go looking for sex 25 hours a day. We like to mix it up with other activities, like where to find the best water / beer / burger / DVD stores et al.[/QUOTE]If that's the case then post it in the Thailand expat forum. Even the author himself agreed he was rambling. Don't insult me again or I would be happy to meet you somewhere and we can see how far from middle school I really am. You know I hate people who talk big behind a computer but can't do anything in person. Sorry Jackson in advance for posting this but he rally got under my skin! I apologize to other forum members!
Am interested in meeting semi-pros (girls who only do this for pay once in a while). One response was that my best bet is in after hours places, which is after 2AM. After hours discos listed were Liquid, Climaxx and Insomnia, in the Sukhumvit area, and Shock 39 and Mixx, which are a short taxi ride away.
Are there any places where there are semi-pros at an earlier time than after 2AM?
If so, which places and about what time?
[QUOTE=Henry R; 1240393]Am interested in meeting semi-pros (girls who only do this for pay once in a while). One response was that my best bet is in after hours places, which is after 2AM. After hours discos listed were Liquid, Climaxx and Insomnia, in the Sukhumvit area, and Shock 39 and Mixx, which are a short taxi ride away.
Are there any places where there are semi-pros at an earlier time than after 2AM?
If so, which places and about what time?[/QUOTE]You might be surprised but I suggest going to a mall. Hang out in the food court or close to the cosmetics. You might be surprised how easy it is to strike up a conversation. Then ask her for a drink or lunch in the mall, then feel her out, not up LOL. Some of the beer gardens in nana and around are good bets as well.
Update on the best Nana bars for top talent? I was in Rainbow II and Erotica recently which didn't have much going on compared to several months ago. Rainbow 4 still has lots of good talent. Any up and coming place worth checking out?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1240339]If that's the case then post it in the Thailand expat forum. Even the author himself agreed he was rambling. Don't insult me again or I would be happy to meet you somewhere and we can see how far from middle school I really am. You know I hate people who talk big behind a computer but can't do anything in person. Sorry Jackson in advance for posting this but he rally got under my skin! I apologize to other forum members![/QUOTE]NICE!
Well I feel, despite what others may think or say, that that's EXACTLY what 's been missing around here. A [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] with more balls than brains who wants to practice his basic reading and writing skills!
I say, welcome back!
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[QUOTE=Henry R; 1240393]Am interested in meeting semi-pros (girls who only do this for pay once in a while). Are there any places where there are semi-pros at an earlier time than after 2AM?
If so, which places and about what time?[/QUOTE]Hey Henry:
When are you going to cease asking endless questions and come up with a useful report of your own?
The answer to your latest questions is yes, and if you RTFF and do some exploring yourself you'll learn a lot more.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1240476]NICE!
Well I feel, despite what others may think or say, that that's EXACTLY what 's been missing around here. A low class moron with a 5th grade education with more balls than brains who wants to practice his basic reading and writing skills!
I say, welcome back![/QUOTE]There is nothing low class about my post LOL. If I had not apologized for having posted it then it would be considered low class you [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]!
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1240482]Hey Henry:
When are you going to cease asking endless questions and come up with a useful report of your own?
The answer to your latest questions is yes, and if you RTFF and do some exploring yourself you'll learn a lot more.[/QUOTE]Hard for me to come up with a useful report if I haven't been to Thailand in 5 years. Unless you want outdated info. Not everyone spends all their time on vacation.
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1240517]There is nothing low class about my post LOL. If I had not apologized for having posted it then it would be considered low class you [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]!
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Morris7,
Your expectation that everyone and every report must stick to as planned and that will never happen. Your request and responses is a valet one but when you look at the the number of outdated threads or should I say useless threads in my opinion is due to individuals like yourself who come on board and don't read or get what you want and starting complaining and many go directly to Jackson and that is why there are so many threads right now. He just doesn't have the time so to stop the whining he creats another and another.
Just the fact that your last few reports have to do more with topic shows even yourself can be drawn into a topic that isn't related shows you are part of the problem and not the solution. If you feel so strongly then don't respond and stay away from the topic then it might die down and go away by itself. But if you start something don't be so thin skin and not be able to take some of the criticism that goes along with your boldness! If perfection is and was what you are looking for then next time make your report and refer your photo to the photo section instead of posting it in the Bangkok Thread.
If you can't accept it then contact Jackson and maybe he will give you your refund back but I suggest you don't hold your breath.
LBM
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1240408]You might be surprised but I suggest going to a mall. Hang out in the food court or close to the cosmetics. You might be surprised how easy it is to strike up a conversation. Then ask her for a drink or lunch in the mall, then feel her out, not up LOL. Some of the beer gardens in nana and around are good bets as well.[/QUOTE]Which malls are you talking about? IMHO, this is very difficult to do at the nicer malls like Siam Paragon and the Terminal 21. Many of those hotties walking around are with friends and it will be quite awkward trying to strike up a conversation, especially when they can't speak the language very well.
[QUOTE=Henry R; 1240393]Am interested in meeting semi-pros (girls who only do this for pay once in a while). One response was that my best bet is in after hours places, which is after 2AM. After hours discos listed were Liquid, Climaxx and Insomnia, in the Sukhumvit area, and Shock 39 and Mixx, which are a short taxi ride away.
Are there any places where there are semi-pros at an earlier time than after 2AM?[/QUOTE]In the last year or two, freelancers in discos are about as hardened as ones walking Sukhumwit. Almost all of them have whoring as the main source of income, and no other regular place of employment, although some are too lazy to go out each night.
If you're looking for freelancers, Soi 7 Beergarden and Thermae (near Soi 19) are the places to visit.
As for actual semi-pros, they're a dying breed in Farang nightlife venues. Maybe look online, ThaiLoveLinks or such. Of course, some Thai girls are good actors, so if they catch a whiff of you wanting a semi-pro, they can convincingly pretend to be one (as long as you're not too inquisitive or insightful).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1240764]If you're looking for freelancers, Soi 7 Beergarden and Thermae (near Soi 19) are the places to visit.[/QUOTE]Soi 7 Beergarden . Very poor quality.
Thermae . If you are of Western appearance you will be ignored.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1240650]Cosmetics girls. Why don't they drop the charade and work full time as hookers? Can't be making too much money selling cosmetics-I never see any customers or farangs chatting them up.[/QUOTE]Not all girls wish to be prostitutes, that applies all over the world.
Biergarten is hit and miss but I've had some nice hits there.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab; 1240843]Soi 7 Beergarden. Very poor quality.
Thermae. If you are of Western appearance you will be ignored.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1240727]Which malls are you talking about? IMHO, this is very difficult to do at the nicer malls like Siam Paragon and the Terminal 21. Many of those hotties walking around are with friends and it will be quite awkward trying to strike up a conversation, especially when they can't speak the language very well.[/QUOTE]Like anywhere else in the world striking up a conversation depends on mutual attraction or ulterior motives on part of the girl. If the girl gives you a smile it maybe out of curiosity, likes your looks or wants to make money.
It is very difficult to meet and bang good looking normal girls. Yes, there are plenty of lookers who work in the mall mainly because all shops tend to hire them. Unattractive girls usually work as check out girls at grocery stores.
These are girls who were working in the gambling den that was just self-busted. Are these examples of what guys on this site say are cream of the crop for Thais? The one on the left with the bolt-ons looks like my ex-girlfriend. The one on the right looks like a ladyboy.
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1240868]Biergarten is hit and miss but I've had some nice hits there.[/QUOTE]To D cup,
The last 10 time I when there is all miss I normally stay at hotel near there, I have not pick up a girl there since 2008 I use to get decent looking girl there for 800 bht for 3 hr early is best around 3pm but not any more.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1240843]Thermae . If you are of Western appearance you will be ignored.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I'm of western appearance and these 2 Thermae part-timers definitely didn't ignore me on my last Bangkok trip!
Hello, gentlemen,
I'm just about to make another trip to the paradise soon 7-14 feb.
Here are few observations from my last trip may 2001:
1. My 1st night I went to the nana plaza just after I landed and freshened up. Went to spanky's and found out they are very pushy with the drinks. I was there for a while and bought a lot of lady drinks thinking what the hell it's my first night back. Ended up barfining a dark skinned lady from the bar for 2500 lt plus 600 bf. The nightmare started after that.
She was too drunk and was a chain smoker which I found out after. First she wanted to have dinner which we did with her 4 other friends who happened to be at the same joint.
Then to the hotel and she was a total dud a starfish. I was pissed off by then so I decided to send her back as she wanted to smoke in my room even though it was non smoking and I hate smoking.
Sent her back only paid her 1000 thb. So 1st night ended up buying lady drinks, bf plus 100 thb but went to bed alone as I was too tired to go out again and find some one.
2. Next morning straight to annies which never disappoints and had an older lady who gave the best BJ ever. I think she works at dr BJ now. Saw the pics. Night time had an outcall from mango. Girl named Amy she's still on their website. What an experience that was. She has a very small frame but she's energetic as anything. Had the first session then went to eat some dinner. Came back another session. In the morning when I was sleeping she started a nice BJ as it was time to leave for her which really impressed me.
3. Outcall from victoria that night but very disappointed as I asked for overnight but the girl wanted to leave in 2 hours making all kind of excuses. I didn't wanted to force her so paid half the amount and sent her back. Was a nice quick session.
4. Back to annies couple of times again and had a great time there.
5. Went to eden club during the day but the no choice as there were only 2 ladies who looked really old for my taste. So no go.
6. Another outcall from mango. Everyone's favourite cherry. Pity she's not there anymore. That session was the highlight of my last trip. No limitations full night. I gave her amy's hoops which she left in my room.
Overall I would say it was a great trip except the gogo bar experience. I think I will give gogo's a miss this time as it's not my kinda thing. Don't get me wrong I love the girls dancing and having a chat and few drinks but I think I won't be barfining anymore from there unless someone is exceptionally stunning and we hit it off pretty good.
So I'm in BKK again 914 feb and Pattaya 7-9 feb.
If anyone wants to share a taxi ride around 8 pm on 7th feb from bbk airport to Pattaya let me know.
I'm also up for catching up for a beer in BKK as I'm there for 5 days.
Cheers guys
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1241113]Some don't appreciate the fact ippuns don't go for the same looking girls as the FARANG!
These 2 photos prove it unequivically. I bet the mojority of customers these girls get are whitish![/QUOTE]What are ippuns?
Anyways, yes, I don't think that many of the so called hiso girls are into farangs. IMHO, it seems they, for one, are afraid to be labeled as a working girl and that they seem to have an elitist attitude without actually being elite (compared to girls from Japan, Taiwan, and korea) I was at Terminal 21 the other day looking for nice girls to approach for a date, yet was met with cold blank stares LOL. And I'm fairly young, hansum, well dressed, friendly, and half-Asian. I've read guides on how to approach girls in places like Siam Paragon and Central World, and can not imagine how the author pulled this off without coming off as some sort of creep.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1240272]Who said anything about fist fighting? Though the Japanese can go many levels worse than that, as in starting wars with other countries without warning. They are also often labelled zenophobic and some people have found them to be rude. In Thailand they are certainly not all paying top prices for hookers, as in Thermae or Rainbow iv, for examples, and a few girls I've spoken to did not appear to be impressed by them.[/QUOTE]The girl I talked to said her friends love the japanese because they're big spenders. I would surmise they tell the Japanese dudes they don't like farang, and they tell the Indian fellows they don't like the Japanese.
Any places other than Beergarden and Gulliver to pick up some freelancers during early / mid afternoon?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1241155]What are ippuns?[/quote]Khun Nippon. = Japanese I. E Nippon It has been written as per the way iot is pronounced in Thai.
Cheers,
Rosco
[QUOTE=Rosco4444;1241223]Khun Nippon. = Japanese[/QUOTE]'Khun Nippon'? Growing up in Japan and 30+ years in Thailand, I've never heard that one.
Thai for 'Japanese person' is 'khon yipun'. (The insulting version is 'ai yun'.)
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1240764]If you're looking for freelancers, Soi 7 Beergarden and Thermae (near Soi 19) are the places to visit.[/QUOTE]Stopped byat 5pm, but despite there being 40 gals, not that many of them were ones I would jump on (at least sober). About 1/2 were already chatting up men as well, which made it slim pickings.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1241160]The girl I talked to said her friends love the japanese because they're big spenders. I would surmise they tell the Japanese dudes they don't like farang, and they tell the Indian fellows they don't like the Japanese.[/QUOTE]What I learned from my Japanese friend is when they go on vacation they like to spend big and enjoy. Usually they go few people together so if one runs out of money others give or loan him the money.
For them looks of the girl is more important even if it costs more. They like to sit, drink, party, sing songs and enjoy themselves. It seems they are not much into having sex multiple times. Usually they do have a wife at home.
Whether it is a working girl or not they treat everybody the same with dignity and respect, do not argue about money, and if the girl is a runner after taking money they seem to be fine with it. I heard Koreans are the same way.
Things which bother us do not seem to bother them. Maybe they have the Zen like calmness in them.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1241262]What I learned from my Japanese friend is when they go on vacation they like to spend big and enjoy. Usually they go few people together so if one runs out of money others give or loan him the money.
For them looks of the girl is more important even if it costs more. They like to sit, drink, party, sing songs and enjoy themselves. It seems they are not much into having sex multiple times. Usually they do have a wife at home.
Whether it is a working girl or not they treat everybody the same with dignity and respect, do not argue about money, and if the girl is a runner after taking money they seem to be fine with it. I heard Koreans are the same way.
Things which bother us do not seem to bother them. Maybe they have the Zen like calmness in them.[/QUOTE]I usuall have this attitude even though I'm not Japanese. I tend to do the same (except the singing and drinking part :D. Girl herself is the biggest entertainment to me at all times there). If I like a girl (looks above all, character less important) money becomes a secondary issue. If I really like her and she is available then it means I WILL have her. Whether I will really enjoy her later it's yet a question but I make a decision even before I have a chance to chat to her, see her attitude or know the price as long as I have observed her looks and it passed high for my standard and taste.
That is despite being on a tight budget for most other things.
[QUOTE=Betong; 1241231]'Khun Nippon'? Growing up in Japan and 30+ years in Thailand, I've never heard that one.
Thai for 'Japanese person' is 'khon yipun'. (The insulting version is 'ai yun'.) [/QUOTE]You grew up there and didn't know? In one of my education classes at the university our professor explained to us that before World War 2 (I think it was) Japan was called Nippon. So all the people were called Nipponese and it was shortened to Nips (derogatory same as Japs) by westerners. Evidently the Thais still call them by the old name. With the 'n' at the end of "khun" (which means person/people) and the 'N' at the beginning of Nippon running together it would make one think that the second 'n' is not being pronounced making it sound like "ippun" if it is not said very slowly.
Nippon is still the official name of Japan, in Japanese.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Japan[/url]
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1241262]What I learned from my Japanese friend is when they go on vacation they like to spend big and enjoy. Usually they go few people together so if one runs out of money others give or loan him the money.
For them looks of the girl is more important even if it costs more. They like to sit, drink, party, sing songs and enjoy themselves. It seems they are not much into having sex multiple times. Usually they do have a wife at home.
Whether it is a working girl or not they treat everybody the same with dignity and respect, do not argue about money, and if the girl is a runner after taking money they seem to be fine with it. I heard Koreans are the same way.
Things which bother us do not seem to bother them. Maybe they have the Zen like calmness in them.[/QUOTE]And things that bother them do not really bother us. It is really yin and yang when it comes to wh*ing between the two cultures. Thermae is the perfect example of this. When I moved here 12 years ago it was a farang place. Fun and a party every night. Girls would come up and grab your see*k and were very forward. There was always a group of cuties dancing by the jukebox and many of the girls were drinking. Fast forward to now when Thermae is basically a Asian guy place, due in part to the closure of the Siam City Hotel on Phetburi, and the girls are very submissive, rarely, if ever, will approach a guy, don't drink, etc. It is kind of like a high school prom with girls on one side and guys on the other. Bad? Good? Well, it is what it is and it is the Asian guys place now and so it it their style. I myself prefer a more festive atmosphere and like girls with dirty minds, so it does not suit me. But, things always change.
My last trip was may 2011 not 2001. A typo. In 2001 I was only 17 years old. Just under legal age. Lolz.
[QUOTE=Livelifeguy; 1241142]Hello, gentlemen,
I'm just about to make another trip to the paradise soon 7-14 feb.
Here are few observations from my last trip may 2001:
1. My 1st night I went to the nana plaza just after I landed and freshened up. Went to spanky's and found out they are very pushy with the drinks. I was there for a while and bought a lot of lady drinks thinking what the hell it's my first night back. Ended up barfining a dark skinned lady from the bar for 2500 lt plus 600 bf. The nightmare started after that...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1241422]Fast forward to now when Thermae is basically a Asian guy place, due in part to the closure of the Siam City Hotel on Phetburi, and the girls are very submissive, rarely, if ever, will approach a guy, don't drink, etc. It is kind of like a high school prom with girls on one side and guys on the other. Bad? Good? Well, it is what it is and it is the Asian guys place now and so it it their style.[/QUOTE]Very true. It does have that HS "who makes the first move?" feel to it.
Last night about 50 gals there, some pretty good looking too, but most would only eyeball the Asian men (there wallets no doubt, as a fair number are out of shape, small, balding men in their 60s). A few LBs as well (at least I think they were).
One girl with a nice smile offered ST for 1500, but wouldn't go for LT or 2 pops. Hate to get a girl to my room for just a one shot deal, so I passed.
Another hot girl said 2000 ST, no LT.
All in all about 10% seemed interested in Westerners.
Just a few updates being in BKK the last week or so. These are just my simple observations and some differences from two years ago, so take it for a grain of salt.
1. There's better value to be had finding a gal walking along lower sukhumvit than the gogo bars. Found a total hottie who used to work at Robinson's (says her) , she had great tits and a well rounded hips and ass, cute face too. I actually didn't grab her that night, I took her # down and called her the next day. She didn't care how much I gave her and was happy with 1k. Took her to a movie a few days later, banged her all night and morning and it was all on the house.
2. Picked up a nice gal from Bacara, but was disapointed with her looks outside the bar. Tits were too small and had a few too many stretch marks. Her performance was good as she aimed to please.
3. There seems to be more Indian touts than ever. I was sitting at soi Cowboy, eating a burger and beer outside at one of the little stalls and was hounded by Indian dude selling fake watches. I said not interested and he kept on showing me new ones. Finally he got a clue and left. The Thai girl nearby gave a thumbs up when she saw me not buy anything.
4. Pulling girls from Siam Paragon still seems like a remote possibility. I think I should brush up on my Thai next time.
5. Met a girl on Tagged that I actually felt pretty bad about. She was 37, pretty and slim, but had messed up teeth. She drove me around and we took photos, she came back to my hotel and had sex, although she didn't give me a BJ. Afterward she kept calling and messaging me wanting to go out and meet or go to dinner. I cut it off pretty quick, saying to just forget about me. Better to end it quickly than stringing her along. Although, in hindsight I probably shouldn't have banged her, but it was bareback so hard to pass up.
6. It seems the hottest girls, not sure if they were thai on some occasions, but they seem to choose uglier Asian dudes. I guess they opt for guys who they think will not butterfly?
7. For HISO girls, the best option looks to be either DIA, Thaifriendly, or the RCA venues. RCA looks to be almost 50/50 farang / thai. I think more and more foreigners are catching on to coming here for hot Thai pussy and eschewing farang girls. Can you blame them?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1241286]You grew up there and didn't know? In one of my education classes at the university our professor explained to us that before World War 2 (I think it was) Japan was called Nippon. So all the people were called Nipponese and it was shortened to Nips (derogatory same as Japs) by westerners. Evidently the Thais still call them by the old name. With the 'n' at the end of "khun" (which means person/people) and the 'N' at the beginning of Nippon running together it would make one think that the second 'n' is not being pronounced making it sound like "ippun" if it is not said very slowly.[/QUOTE]I think you two are talking past each other. Japan is generally either Nippon or Nihon officially in Japanese, although there are other words for the country as well. Otherwise, in Thailand the pronunciation is as Betong notes, including the derogatory "ai yun," which one does hear now and then.
I would say that the majority of the girls at Thermae are still approachable to farangs, although there is a sizable minority, generally easy to spot, who are only interested in Japanese. I think what a lot of farangs fail to understand, although a cursory examination of Japanese porno would be a clue, is that like the ladies who focus on Arabs, the ones who specialize in ai yun tend to earn their pay. 3-3-3 notwithstanding.
They do tend to overpay, a reputation which pisses some Japanese off, but not giving a shit about money is kind of a macho thing with the Japanese. Japanese guys are generally polite, but they actually don't usually take too much shit off of women. Violence against women is very common in Japan, just not reported. The pay for play scene in Japan is huge, and very expensive compared to here. I sometimes wonder if one of the reasons most of the girls here give head now, unlike 20 years ago, is because of the Japanese demand for it. Blowjobs are standard fare in almost any Japanese P4P venue, and the blowjob parlors there (that almost always cater to Japanese only) blow the ones here out of the water. The Japanese might tend to be sour-faced bastards who don't mingle, but they rarely start fights or act belligerent, so sharing a venue with them isn't as bad as might be with a number of nationalities, including some kinds of farang or other ethnicities.
[QUOTE=Sanook D;1241514]and the blowjob parlors there (that almost always cater to Japanese only) blow the ones here out of the water.[/QUOTE]They do, uh? How so? :)
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1241286]With the 'n' at the end of "khun" (which means person/people)[/QUOTE]This seems to be a common misunderstanding here. The Thai word for person is 'khon' (or 'chaao'). 'Khun' is a polite prefix used before people's names, or just a polite way to say 'you'. Two totally different words. So in Thai there's no such thing as 'khun Nippon' or for that matter 'khun Yipun'.
And yes, Nippon is still Japan's official name, but except for very formal occasions it's always pronounced these days as Nihon.
Ah, finally a useful report as compared to nonsense arguments and shameless jabbing of each other. Thanks a lot and please feel free to PM me ph # of girl number 1 if you can.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1241503]Just a few updates being in BKK the last week or so. These are just my simple observations and some differences from two years ago, so take it for a grain of salt.
1. There's better value to be had finding a gal walking along lower sukhumvit than the gogo bars. Found a total hottie who used to work at Robinson's (says her) , she had great tits and a well rounded hips and ass, cute face too. I actually didn't grab her that night, I took her # down and called her the next day. She didn't care how much I gave her and was happy with 1k. Took her to a movie a few days later, banged her all night and morning and it was all on the house.
2. Picked up a nice gal from Bacara, but was disapointed with her looks outside the bar. Tits were too small and had a few too many stretch marks. Her performance was good as she aimed to please.
3. There seems to be more Indian touts than ever. I was sitting at soi Cowboy, eating a burger and beer outside at one of the little stalls and was hounded by Indian dude selling fake watches. I said not interested and he kept on showing me new ones. Finally he got a clue and left. The Thai girl nearby gave a thumbs up when she saw me not buy anything.
4. Pulling girls from Siam Paragon still seems like a remote possibility. I think I should brush up on my Thai next time.
5. Met a girl on Tagged that I actually felt pretty bad about. She was 37, pretty and slim, but had messed up teeth. She drove me around and we took photos, she came back to my hotel and had sex, although she didn't give me a BJ. Afterward she kept calling and messaging me wanting to go out and meet or go to dinner. I cut it off pretty quick, saying to just forget about me. Better to end it quickly than stringing her along. Although, in hindsight I probably shouldn't have banged her, but it was bareback so hard to pass up.
6. It seems the hottest girls, not sure if they were thai on some occasions, but they seem to choose uglier Asian dudes. I guess they opt for guys who they think will not butterfly?
7. For HISO girls, the best option looks to be either DIA, Thaifriendly, or the RCA venues. RCA looks to be almost 50/50 farang / thai. I think more and more foreigners are catching on to coming here for hot Thai pussy and eschewing farang girls. Can you blame them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Betong;1241548]This seems to be a common misunderstanding here. The Thai word for person is 'khon' (or 'chaao'). 'Khun' is a polite prefix used before people's names, or just a polite way to say 'you'. Two totally different words. So in Thai there's no such thing as 'khun Nippon' or for that matter 'khun Yipun'.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert in Thai but that is different than how I was taught and how I generally hear the language spoken. I usually hear "khun thai" meaning "thai people" and "khun see" meaning "4 people", etc. Although I am aware of using it as the prefix such as in Khun Peter.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1241503]Just a few updates being in BKK the last week or so. These are just my simple observations and some differences from two years ago, so take it for a grain of salt.
5. Met a girl on Tagged that I actually felt pretty bad about. Afterward she kept calling and messaging me wanting to go out and meet or go to dinner. I cut it off pretty quick, saying to just forget about me. Better to end it quickly than stringing her along. Although, in hindsight I probably shouldn't have banged her, but it was bareback so hard to pass up.[/QUOTE]As often happens the freebies are too expensive to mantain! .
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1241485]Very true. It does have that HS "who makes the first move?" feel to it.
All in all about 10% seemed interested in Westerners.[/QUOTE]To summarize, not the best venue for a westerner to pick up, then?
(even if the whole scene seems interesting and worth, once one get the deal)
[QUOTE=Betong; 1241548]This seems to be a common misunderstanding here. The Thai word for person is 'khon' (or 'chaao'). 'Khun' is a polite prefix used before people's names, or just a polite way to say 'you'. Two totally different words. So in Thai there's no such thing as 'khun Nippon' or for that matter 'khun Yipun'.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1241581]I'm no expert in Thai but that is different than how I was taught and how I generally hear the language spoken. I usually hear "khun thai" meaning "thai people" and "khun see" meaning "4 people", etc. Although I am aware of using it as the prefix such as in Khun Peter.[/QUOTE]Betong is correct.
To an untrained ear it is often difficult to distinguish the proper pronuciation of Thai words. Just when I think I have it right, a girl will say "huh?" because she doesn't understand what I said, and will correct me with a pronunciation that sounds exactly like what I said. It's frustrating.
"khon" is the world for people, and "khun" is the word to address a specific person as "you; or "Mr." or "Mrs."
"khon Thai" means Thai people,"khon Am-mer-i-ga" refers to an American person, and "khon yippon" refers to a Japanese person. So 4 people would be refered to as "khon see" in Thai.
[QUOTE=Francesco24; 1241170]Any places other than Beergarden and Gulliver to pick up some freelancers during early / mid afternoon?
Thanks![/QUOTE]On the street.
To my surprise I've recently seen 2 SYT laying on the sidewalk with their legs spread open.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1241611]Hiso hookers don't go troling for customers on dia, thaifriendly, or rca. Hiso girls cost 10. 000 plus and arent available to the avg goofball.
Hot girl like customers who don't butterfly. Hahahahahahahahahaha / okie dokie.[/QUOTE]I never professed to be 100% right on things. However, in regards to thaifriendly and DIA, I was using the "hiso" term quite loosely and referring to non-p4p gals. I'd like to add that these avenues are of little value unless you're in BKK for the long haul, otherwise it's, more often than not, a waste of time. Like any other hot girl worth her salt, she'll tend to be flakey, hard to get, stand you up, etc etc. Just like anywhere else. Same same!
BTW- where can you find these 10k girls? I'd like to know if they're worth it!
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1241485]Very true. It does have that HS "who makes the first move?" feel to it.
Last night about 50 gals there, some pretty good looking too, but most would only eyeball the Asian men (there wallets no doubt, as a fair number are out of shape, small, balding men in their 60s). A few LBs as well (at least I think they were).
One girl with a nice smile offered ST for 1500, but wouldn't go for LT or 2 pops. Hate to get a girl to my room for just a one shot deal, so I passed.
Another hot girl said 2000 ST, no LT.
All in all about 10% seemed interested in Westerners.[/QUOTE]Full of lookers last night. Saw a Western guy go up to one. She said "I cannot go with you," in a very rude and dismissive way. Nice, eh?
I have used both and they are legit. My experience is that 20-25% are P4P. The majority of the rest are not P4P, but they are looking for money. Some of these girls have good jobs, but once you get past that, you realize they are paying for all their bros, sisters, mom, pop, etc. and complain they don't have much left. That is one reason a lot of them that are 25-35 are willing to meet men "of all ages". Their main goal is deep pockets. On the big picture, with a few exceptions, I don't see their intentions much different than P4P.
If you walk down Soi 11 around midnight, there are dozens of girls in the street soliciting massage. Most are dressed in sexy clothes and a few are not bad looking. It bascially looks like a line of SW's. Their shops are in alcoves off the street. They use to stand in front of their shops and yell at customers on the street. Now, they have taken to the street itself.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1241503]Just a few updates being in BKK the last week or so. These are just my simple observations and some differences from two years ago, so take it for a grain of salt.
5. Met a girl on Tagged that I actually felt pretty bad about. She was 37, pretty and slim, but had messed up teeth. She drove me around and we took photos, she came back to my hotel and had sex, although she didn't give me a BJ. Afterward she kept calling and messaging me wanting to go out and meet or go to dinner. I cut it off pretty quick, saying to just forget about me. Better to end it quickly than stringing her along. Although, in hindsight I probably shouldn't have banged her, but it was bareback so hard to pass up.
Nice of you to take advantage of her, pass on your STD's and / or give her an unwanted child. Congratulations. Well done.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1241674]So 4 people would be refered to as "khon see" in Thai.[/QUOTE]Actually I think it should be "see khon". Or "khon see khon". The last one is the counting word. E. G."jaan" is also the counting word for dishes, e. G."pad thai see jaan". And "fong" is the counting word for round things like eggs, so you can buy "kai see fong". And for animals it's "tua", so you can have "maa see tua", for four dogs. And of course "puying see khon", for 4 girls, to try and get back on topic.
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill;1241730]Nice of you to take advantage of her, pass on your STD's and / or give her an unwanted child. Congratulations. Well done.[/QUOTE]Get off your high horse, it takes two to tango.
I went with a prominent ISG board member from China to Bangkok last week. I had some business to attend to and he needed a "break", so along with a couple of other ISG guys we took a short "road trip" to the LOS. I want to thank Fon Tok for helping with some really good info, and I still don't know how I missed you, but hopefully I can make up for it the next trip. The first night, we did the circuit and then one of the guys got a call from a client he had helped in China. This guy is a local Thai, who must have a pretty good job. He asked if we would like to accompany him and his friends to a members only club, and see some girls that most farangs will never meet. It took me about a second to nod my approval, and off we went to meet him. It was already about 1:00am when we got to the club and to be honest I have no idea what part of town we were in.
We were escorted into this huge room full of table and people everywhere. There were about 100 girls dancing on the bar in bikinis and it seemed like 2-300 more entertaining customers at the tables. These girls were all dressed to impress, and I was for sure. I have to admit that as we walked in, I couldn't help but think that we hadn't seen one girl all night long in any of the go-go bars or clubs that were better looking than the "worst" of these girls. I mean every single one was almost breathe taking.
The member apologized to us, and said that since we were late, a lot of the "really pretty girls" were already taken, and well I did see stunners at every table, I wasn't going to complain. We ordered a bottle, and then one of the "mommies" brought a line up of about 8-10 girls to the table. I was trying to be cool, and let the host choose first, or since I was just one of the entourage, let the other choose. Well either they were dumbfounded or had standards so high that I can't begin to imagine. I later found out they wanted to wait and see more girls. So much for being patient. And these were supposed to be the "second string"!
I choose this tall, curvy, doe eyed hottie, with a smile that could light up a football stadium and she acted like she had just won the lottery. Gave me a hug like she had been waiting her whole life to meet me and from that moment until we parted, I can honestly say I have never enjoyed a lady's company more.
The other guys finally choose girls, and to be honest, I was salivating from almost every orifice. It was just one fun bunch of people and the girls were extraordinary.
Listen, I know I am predisposed to hyperbole, but I have traveled all over the world, mongered in almost every place I could, enjoyed the companionship of many wonderful ladies, been fortunate enough to bed some seriously stunning examples of the female gender, but never, I do mean never in my more than 50 years, have I ever been anywhere that comes close to this night. I have never seen such a collection of beautiful, sexy, accessible, fun giving, girls in my entire life. All of that is an understatement as well.
Now comes the downer, the girls are not, as a rule available for take out, they are to entertain you and then send you on your merry way. I don't think the management cares if the girls decide to go home with a customer (in truth I don't know the answer to that question) , but they aren't encouraged along those lines. When the music stopped my girl gave me the hug of a life time, a big wet juicy kiss, walked me to the door, and said good-bye. To be honest, at that moment I didn't care. I had the time of my life and it didn't seem so important that I wasn't going to see her naked or play hide the sausage, at least on this night. The only thing I was disappointed in was that we hadn't started the evening earlier. She happily gave me her phone number, but didn't respond the next day when I sent a "nice to meet you" text. I even had someone translate it into Thai. Who knows.
Now, I expect that by now you are asking yourself, WTF? Why post this on this website, since I didn't, can't, won't score any one of these ladies. Well the answer is that I figured a few of you, like me, would appreciate the dynamic of being a part of a once in lifetime (so far) event. In short it was an extraordinary night that I will not soon forget. I can get laid anytime. If the business thing works out, the second thing I am going to do after arriving in Bangkok is secure a membership to this club, and then probably go broke and get fired soaking it up at every opportunity!
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1241737]Actually I think it should be "see khon".[/QUOTE]This is correct.
Sky Rider, you've been into one of those infamous G-clubs. We don't have so many reports about them here as most members favor the direct approach of soapies and gogos...I haven't tried them yet but your description is the first one that might motivate me to :) Did you get the name of the place you were in?
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1241737]Actually I think it should be "see khon".[/QUOTE]Right, in standard central Thai. But it means something totally vulgar in Isaan!
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1241737]Actually I think it should be "see khon".[/QUOTE]"khon see is how the dyslexic Thais say it. :)
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill;1241730]Nice of you to take advantage of her, pass on your STD's and / or give her an unwanted child. Congratulations. Well done.[/QUOTE]I thought this was the Bangkok thread, not the Safe Sex discussion.
But it was nice of you to make those assumptions out of thin air.
BTW you do realize this is a whor*mongering site, not the catholic school girls choir rehearsal forum?
So if you are a participant in the former, you are in a high risk group for exchanging STDs.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1241787]I went with a prominent ISG board member from China to Bangkok last week. I had some business to attend to and he needed a "break", so along with a couple of other ISG guys we took a short "road trip" to the LOS. I want to thank Fon Tok for helping with some really good info, and I still don't know how I missed you, but hopefully I can make up for it the next trip. The first night, we did the circuit and then one of the guys got a call from a client he had helped in China. This guy is a local Thai, who must have a pretty good job. He asked if we would like to accompany him and his friends to a members only club, and see some girls that most farangs will never meet. It took me about a second to nod my approval, and off we went to meet him. It was already about 1:00am when we got to the club and to be honest I have no idea what part of town we were in.
We were escorted into this huge room full of table and people everywhere. There were about 100 girls dancing on the bar in bikinis and it seemed like 2-300 more entertaining customers at the tables. These girls were all dressed to impress, and I was for sure. I have to admit that as we walked in, I couldn't help but think that we hadn't seen one girl all night long in any of the go-go bars or clubs that were better looking than the "worst" of these girls. I mean every single one was almost breathe taking.
The member apologized to us, and said that since we were late, a lot of the "really pretty girls" were already taken, and well I did see stunners at every table, I wasn't going to complain. We ordered a bottle, and then one of the "mommies" brought a line up of about 8-10 girls to the table. I was trying to be cool, and let the host choose first, or since I was just one of the entourage, let the other choose. Well either they were dumbfounded or had standards so high that I can't begin to imagine. I later found out they wanted to wait and see more girls. So much for being patient. And these were supposed to be the "second string"!
I choose this tall, curvy, doe eyed hottie, with a smile that could light up a football stadium and she acted like she had just won the lottery. Gave me a hug like she had been waiting her whole life to meet me and from that moment until we parted, I can honestly say I have never enjoyed a lady's company more.
The other guys finally choose girls, and to be honest, I was salivating from almost every orifice. It was just one fun bunch of people and the girls were extraordinary.
Listen, I know I am predisposed to hyperbole, but I have traveled all over the world, mongered in almost every place I could, enjoyed the companionship of many wonderful ladies, been fortunate enough to bed some seriously stunning examples of the female gender, but never, I do mean never in my more than 50 years, have I ever been anywhere that comes close to this night. I have never seen such a collection of beautiful, sexy, accessible, fun giving, girls in my entire life. All of that is an understatement as well.
Now comes the downer, the girls are not, as a rule available for take out, they are to entertain you and then send you on your merry way. I don't think the management cares if the girls decide to go home with a customer (in truth I don't know the answer to that question) , but they aren't encouraged along those lines. When the music stopped my girl gave me the hug of a life time, a big wet juicy kiss, walked me to the door, and said good-bye. To be honest, at that moment I didn't care. I had the time of my life and it didn't seem so important that I wasn't going to see her naked or play hide the sausage, at least on this night. The only thing I was disappointed in was that we hadn't started the evening earlier. She happily gave me her phone number, but didn't respond the next day when I sent a "nice to meet you" text. I even had someone translate it into Thai. Who knows.
Now, I expect that by now you are asking yourself, WTF? Why post this on this website, since I didn't, can't, won't score any one of these ladies. Well the answer is that I figured a few of you, like me, would appreciate the dynamic of being a part of a once in lifetime (so far) event. In short it was an extraordinary night that I will not soon forget. I can get laid anytime. If the business thing works out, the second thing I am going to do after arriving in Bangkok is secure a membership to this club, and then probably go broke and get fired soaking it up at every opportunity![/QUOTE]What a bunch of idiocy.
I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me.
Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1241787]traveled all over the world, mongered in almost every place I could, enjoyed the companionship of many wonderful ladies, been fortunate enough to bed some seriously stunning examples of the female gender, but never, I do mean never in my more than 50 years, have I ever been anywhere that comes close to this night. I have never seen such a collection of beautiful, sexy, accessible, fun giving, girls in my entire life. girls are not, as a rule available for take out, they are to entertain you and then send you on your merry way. I don't think the management cares if the girls decide to go home with a customer (in truth I don't know the answer to that question)![/QUOTE]Travelled all over the world? ALL over? A geisha experience!
Thanks for sharing
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242022]What a bunch of idiocy. I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me. Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.[/QUOTE]I bet you are a lot of fun at a party?
G-Clubs are a lot of fun. I've been to a few and always enjoy the "scene" and the very beautiful ladies.
Any bump off a log can find a hole to fill in this town, but quite a few cannot hold an intelligent conversation.
Do us all a favor, Mr."GentleBoner..." Geez, I just can't think what that might be.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1242027]I bet you are a lot of fun at a party?
G-Clubs are a lot of fun. I've been to a few and always enjoy the "scene" and the very beautiful ladies.
Any bump off a log can find a hole to fill in this town, but quite a few cannot hold an intelligent conversation.
Do us all a favor, Mr."GentleBoner." Geez, I just can't think what that might be.[/QUOTE]Why not go back to your home country? Plenty of pretty ladies there will be happy to take your money in exchange for a conversation. Just don't expect to get laid.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1242028]Why not go back to your home country? Plenty of pretty ladies there will be happy to take your money in exchange for a conversation. Just don't expect to get laid.[/QUOTE]Talk is cheap. The value of a monger like you is even cheaper.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1242030]Talk is cheap. The value of a monger like you is even cheaper.[/QUOTE]Too bad. I guess you won't be paying me a high fee for this stimulating conversation.
Wow. Fantastic report Sky Rider. Thanks. What is the name of the club. I wish to experience the same joy you had soon. .
Getting laid. Ahh well. We can do that any time. I just want to have a different experience while in Bangkok.
Regarding the number. I'm not sure. I think you called her too soon. Remember three day rule. Hahaha. I think most of these girls are mall models and college girls etc. One could have them with patience. Thanks for the detailed report
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242022]What a bunch of idiocy.
I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me.
Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.[/QUOTE]GB,
I would say that you showed the very definition of idiocy with your post. One thing is for sure, there are ample opportunities for you to do just what you would rather do, but that doesn't in any way diminish my experience or the pleasure I experienced from it. I am far from Japanese, nor would anyone I know consider me emasculated. Maybe next time you should actually try reading for comprehension. I put a disclaimer on the post in the beginning, not that it really matters. Your opinion is yours, and fortunately for me, it doesn't make a material difference to me either way. I sincerely hope you get exactly what you want. And deserve!
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1242080]GB,
I would say that you showed the very definition of idiocy with your post. One thing is for sure, there are ample opportunities for you to do just what you would rather do, but that doesn't in any way diminish my experience or the pleasure I experienced from it. I am far from Japanese, nor would anyone I know consider me emasculated. Maybe next time you should actually try reading for comprehension. I put a disclaimer on the post in the beginning, not that it really matters. Your opinion is yours, and fortunately for me, it doesn't make a material difference to me either way. I sincerely hope you get exactly what you want. And deserve![/QUOTE]Your post said that a club that provided a pretty girl who spent an hour or so entertaining you, didn't have sex with you and then didn't answer your SMS is the best club you've ever been to in 50 years of international travel and was a "once in a lifetime" experience.
BS.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1241979]
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill; 1241730]Don't be so naive.
Girls and boys who do the TAGGED thing deserve each other. So ez to meet prostitutes- I always wonder why you need to go the internet route. LOL[/QUOTE]Actually, to have non p4p girls show me around and I can take pictures with my new DSLR camera at tourist spots to show friends and family that I'm not there just for the girls LOL.
There's a few keepers from the websites. I met a relatively hot girl who was dating an English teacher, actually she is still with him, yet she likes to stray and have fun with hot farangs (I'm actually half Jap). She's always complaining he never has money though.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242095]Your post said that a club that provided a pretty girl who spent an hour or so entertaining you, didn't have sex with you and then didn't answer your SMS is the best club you've ever been to in 50 years of international travel and was a "once in a lifetime" experience.
BS.[/QUOTE]GB,
If that is what you took away from my post then all I can say is that you were not the "target audience", and I am okay with that. I don't have the need for everyone to find my puny little contributions worthy of their time and consideration. If one or two people find it interesting or maybe even brought a sly grin to their face, then it was more than worthwhile. It is obvious we view the world (or at least this part of it) through a different lens, which makes me happy as well. I am pretty content with what I see, I am sure that you are equally happy with yours.
I'll try not to make value judgements as to which is the "better" of the two, and soldier on as best I can.
the g in g-club stands for gentlemen. this is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
g-clubs are not over-priced. they are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. few months ago we had a bodyslam mini-concert at a g-club.
if you think you pulled a "real stunner" from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], more power to you. if you think whenever you pay for a person's time in bangkok the time must end with cumming in her ass, then you are better off staying away.
the g-club concept is absolutely valid if you have the acumen to make it work and you will absolutely be able to get laid from there but it's simply not guaranteed. most of the girls are pretty and i mean pretty on the thai scale, not the strange "i pulled a real stunner from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s" pretty. they are not single. they are not sex workers. they are dancers and entertainers.
some are up for it due to financial motivation and some are just single (timing is everything) and take a liking to a customer.
if you go in there (a mistake i made the first few times when i started going to these places) thinking you are paying 3000-4000 baht tonight so you better get a pop out of it you will have a shitty night. if you go in there to hang out with beautiful girls, see penthouse models stripping, listen to good live music, eat and get absolutely wasted, you are in the right place. shagging the girl is an optional bonus. go in with that attitude and you will never look back.
seems most farang don't understand that concept though. place i go to i am usually the only non-thai in the room. i have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k i could have long timed someone".
it's horses for courses.
[QUOTE=CoyoteLover; 1242119]The G in G-club stands for gentlemen. This is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
G-clubs are not over-priced. They are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. Few months ago we had a Bodyslam mini-concert at a G-Club.
It's horses for courses.[/QUOTE]CL,
I couldn't agree more. IMHO, there is more to life than being the "shag du jour" for a lass that is using what skills she has to make a living. Not that there is ANYTHING wrong with that and I certainly enjoy bumping uglies with a beautiful gal, regardless of the monetary arrangement. I also enjoy the company of a beautiful lady on occasion that is just that. Company and a fun evening playing around. As you say, on occasion that turns into a great experience that is "off the books"!
I really didn't mean to cause a controversy, just share a magical night. At least in my view.
I appreciate what you guys are saying. G clubs have top model quality talent not usually found in Go Go's. Furthermore, these clubs can be an entertaining way to spend an evening drinking and being attended to by very attractive ladies. I think it works if you have the time, the cash, and the game to make it work. If I were staying in BKK for a month or longer, these venues might be a really good means to gain access to the type of girls I really want to get to get it on with and not for just one night. Becoming a member is the first step. Another issue with these clubs is that they are more geared to the group party not an individual. If I were to go into a club solo, I am sure they would try to accommodate me and make me feel at home, but all the costs would be on me and I think the expense would be considerable. Still I have always thought about giving it a try whenever I am in BKK and have the time, but so far, I have never got around to doing it. High end soapies have some very attractive girls too.
[quote=coyotelover; 1242119]the g in g-club stands for gentlemen. this is why cavemen have issues understanding the concept.
g-clubs are not over-priced. they are entertainment venues and the entertainment you get is top notch. few months ago we had a bodyslam mini-concert at a g-club.
if you think you pulled a "real stunner" from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], more power to you. if you think whenever you pay for a person's time in bangkok the time must end with cumming in her ass, then you are better off staying away.
the g-club concept is absolutely valid if you have the acumen to make it work and you will absolutely be able to get laid from there but it's simply not guaranteed. most of the girls are pretty and i mean pretty on the thai scale, not the strange "i pulled a real stunner from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s" pretty. they are not single. they are not sex workers. they are dancers and entertainers.
some are up for it due to financial motivation and some are just single (timing is everything) and take a liking to a customer.
if you go in there (a mistake i made the first few times when i started going to these places) thinking you are paying 3000-4000 baht tonight so you better get a pop out of it you will have a shitty night. if you go in there to hang out with beautiful girls, see penthouse models stripping, listen to good live music, eat and get absolutely wasted, you are in the right place. shagging the girl is an optional bonus. go in with that attitude and you will never look back.
seems most farang don't understand that concept though. place i go to i am usually the only non-thai in the room. i have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k i could have long timed someone".
it's horses for courses.[/quote]agreed! to each his own. at 46 i want to put as little effort into getting laid as possible. i have very little interest in interacting with most females unless they are well educated and well read. i doubt i would find that in a g-club, here or back home for that matter.
now, if i were 10 years younger i would be far more apt to "play the game," (and i spent plenty of eves in piano 10 plus years ago) or it would for sure be worth a good chunk of change to be able to st with gals you see at g-clubs and have them perform, but as i said, for me not worth the effort. at this age it is all about me, and it is the girl that needs to do the entertaining. i never have been one for wh&emancing!
Sky Rider,
Great post! Only thing lacking was the name of the G Club for those of us who would like to check it out for ourselves. I used to spend a lot of time in LOS but these days my trips are limited to 1 or 2 days while in transit to somewhere else. Point being that I just don't have enough time to devote to hanging out in these clubs and develop relationships that would ultimately result in a "happy ending". It sounds like a lot of fun though and I can well understand your point of view. I can remember many times in the past where some of my most memorable nights were spent just hanging out having fun with one or more beautiful ladies in a club. Just drinking, chatting and laughing. Sometimes those nights ended up with sex, sometimes not, but it didn't really matter because I always had a great time just being with them in an easy, relaxed atmosphere. There is a lot to be said for that.
I've seen numerous comments on your post from individuals who think it's ludicrous to spend a few thousand baht just to have a conversation with a beautiful girl rather than spend that same amount in a soapie where there is a guaranteed (?) end result. Well, that's a valid point for many guys who only have a short time to spend and need to make the most of it but one shouldn't dispute the fact that now and then, a great time can be had even if there is no sex involved. Gogo's and soapies can become very mundane and uninspiring after a while and it's nice to do something different which can be even more fulfilling. Such as a G-Club.
Kudos to you for your informative and enlightening post. I, personally, enjoyed it and hope I will someday have enough time to spend in BKK to try it out for myself.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1242137](snip) - I really didn't mean to cause a controversy, just share a magical night. At least in my view.[/QUOTE]Hey Sky, no worries. Just a little ISG table tennis!
You had a good time in Bangkok and wrote a good report about a night out on the town. Thank you.
It's obvious, (at least to me), that some guys just don't understand this concept. For them a trip to Bangkok is all about the "release," and not much else.
I say, "to each their own." Bangkok has something for everybody.
Of course, for those just seeking a "release," this can also be done "solo" in the privacy of ones own home back in nowhere land.
But, then they would miss the fried rice and fun tuk tuk rides.
Chok dee!
[QUOTE=CoyoteLover;1242119]I have brought a few farang there as my guests in the past and some loved it, others were like "meh, for those 3k I could have long timed someone".[/QUOTE]
Nice post, those places do have an audience. However, this is International [b]Sex[/b] Guide, so the crowd is appropriately biased.
It's not the "let's hang out and drink at posh places, massage our egos, pretend we're a big shot, and maybe seduce a haughty sponsor-seeking totty" guide. G-clubs are way too overpriced and unreliable for sex, although some people find them good value for other purposes.
Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?
Met a nice looking young girl from DIA at Terminal 21 for a cup of coffee. Her English was pretty good and it was actually a refreshing experience to just be able to have a nice chat with a hot and well-educated Thai girl with no expectations in the end. After that, I decided to go look for some entertainment of the adult kind.
I was strutting along Soi 11 earlier in the day, I was in Koh Samet, it was nice to be back in BKK. I saw a plethora of massage girls sitting on the curb, none of them really caught my attention, until I saw a pretty hot looking ligher skinned girl. A bit tall and I asked to make sure she was not ladyboy and she was not. She took me to the massage loom and paid 300 baht for oil. The room was a very small cubicle with a mattress and the place smelled overwhelmingly of peppermint, it was not very pleasant at all. The massage was OK, she then said special massage of 1K baht extra. I thought that was fair until she took off her clothes! Wow, talk about someone looking hot in clothes and ugly without! I shriveled up like a California raisin in the middle of the Mojave Desert and told her I do not feel comfortable. There was actually truth to this, the place stunk like peppermint and there was a lot of noise in the background, right in front of the massage cubicle, not 3 feet away were two fellows getting a foot massage, and to think I was going to do the deed with this amount of lack of privacy? LOL
She was annoyed, then said OK, I suck you free and didn't object, although I think she would have asked for money after the deed was done. The BJ was terrible and I just told her to stop, put on my clothes and left. I would highly recommend avoiding this area for sexy massage and opt for the ones on Soi 33, especially Dream Heaven Massage.
Call me an idiot then. Sounds like Sky Ryder had a great time, and isn't that what's most important? I've been wanting to check one of these places out but have never made it.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242022]What a bunch of idiocy.
I'd rather be a farang and go to places where the girls will actually have sex with me.
Overpriced clubs where the girls will only talk with you is normally the domain of emasculated Japanese men.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242292]Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?[/QUOTE]GB,
First, if you are going to take me to task at least get the name correct. Secondly, why in the world would anyone need to "back me"? I related my PERSONAL experience and perception. This was not a "news article", it was my editorial on the evening as I experienced it, I am assured that had you been included you would have written an entirely different piece.
Since, you by your own admission have never been to one of these places, I don't see how you can make some of the statements you have made. I assure you that at least with the lady I was with, there was no attempt to "tease", nor was she in the least bit snotty. As far as being "emasculated", well at least IMHO, no can do that TO you, it is something an individual gives up on their own.
I never intimated that by going to this club I was somehow more cultured, or intelligent, but neither am I willing to accept that I am somehow less manly because I enjoyed an evening in the company of a beautiful lady without the guarantee that she was going to fuck my brains out.
Someone suggested that my posting was not appropriate to this forum because of the lack of sex involved, I think that I actually mentioned that I was taking a little license with the post. However, I didn't break any of the TOS on the forum and well, at the end of the day, this is and always will be Jackson's forum. He just lets us post here, I am sure that if I somehow offended him, I will find out soon enough.
Oh, and to be honest, I have absolutely no idea how "logic" applies to anything on this board. They don't intersect very often, that is for sure.
Sky
Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1242333]GB,
First, if you are going to take me to task at least get the name correct. Secondly, why in the world would anyone need to "back me"? I related my PERSONAL experience and perception. This was not a "news article", it was my editorial on the evening as I experienced it, I am assured that had you been included you would have written an entirely different piece.
Since, you by your own admission have never been to one of these places, I don't see how you can make some of the statements you have made. I assure you that at least with the lady I was with, there was no attempt to "tease", nor was she in the least bit snotty. As far as being "emasculated", well at least IMHO, no can do that TO you, it is something an individual gives up on their own.
I never intimated that by going to this club I was somehow more cultured, or intelligent, but neither am I willing to accept that I am somehow less manly because I enjoyed an evening in the company of a beautiful lady without the guarantee that she was going to fuck my brains out.
Someone suggested that my posting was not appropriate to this forum because of the lack of sex involved, I think that I actually mentioned that I was taking a little license with the post. However, I didn't break any of the TOS on the forum and well, at the end of the day, this is and always will be Jackson's forum. He just lets us post here, I am sure that if I somehow offended him, I will find out soon enough.
Oh, and to be honest, I have absolutely no idea how "logic" applies to anything on this board. They don't intersect very often, that is for sure.
Sky[/QUOTE]Well I for one was very happy to read his report. It is far better to read this than to read about orchids, drinking water, and all the other crap that gets posted on here instead of in the proper spot. Many insults being flung back and forth. No wonder many members don't post anymore. Because when they do they get belittled for it! This was this members experience and a good one. I will defiantly want to go to one of these places.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242292]GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?[/QUOTE]I was not going to throw the first stone, but. I too have been to one of the infamous g clubs, pretty far down Ekkamai on some soi. It only operates on Saturday nights. There were many beautiful girls. However, the girls were dancing and getting drunk. Same old, same old.
Did I have fun? Sure. But only because I went for free. I like Sang som, drinking expensive scotch is no big deal to me. The Cristal was nice for a change, but I only got to drink one glass.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1242341]Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.[/QUOTE]Tony,
I need to make sure that I don't get too far ahead on this thing. I want to make it clear that I was a GUEST of a member at this club. I have NO idea about getting into the club without a membership. I also suspect that like most venues, not all clubs are created equal, and this is the ONLY time I have ever been to a club of this type. I cannot answer your questions, sorry.
I would agree however that this was not the type of event you would want to attend solo. I am sure it is done, and I saw a number of guys sitting at the bar, that didn't appear to have wingmen, but I suspect they were regular customers, not a "one off type" of situation.
Sky
Was out last night in Bangkok. First in the afternoon went to Ez massage sukh soi 24. Nice catalog of girls, tried to pick up someone I had seen previously on their web site but I was told she had an appointment. Then went with Nancy 25 yrs and was ok choice, good service. Took 40 min special which was almost just a shower and boom boom, did not want to waste time on massage or something. Damage 1700 thb, a decent price in BKK for boom boom I think?
Night went to soi cowboy, enjoyed suzie wong shows (very crowded, why are there no shows like this in other bars, totally naked). But the looks and quality of girls not perfect, maybe I was late or maybe the attractive ones are not there. Just had beers and left. Then tried 2-3 DIA girls but all failed."Could we see tomorrow" "could we see later" and one number not workikng. One called me and promised to call again later (did not). Went to Narz with my friend, not place place, maybe if you like dancing or shouting but can't talk. Also one DIA contact was there I saw here and we texted but somehow I did not have courage to go talk to her.
Then at nana plaza I was late, do all the bars and discos really close at 2 am already? I thought last time nana 2nd floor some were open until 6. Then saw many african girls available at lower sukhumvit and ladyboy tried to pick pocket me when walking from nana to hotel on soi 18.
Any advice on a good teenage massage? Or where to go afternoon or night if just like FS? Don't like wasting time on massage or soapies. If I want massage I go to a good massage place, if boom boom then just want FS.
PM if BKK now I'm here 2-3 days then in Pattaya 3 days if you are interested go have beer maybe.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1242351](snip) - I have NO idea about getting into the club without a membership. I also suspect that like most venues, not all clubs are created equal, and this is the ONLY time I have ever been to a club of this type. I cannot answer your questions, sorry. - I would agree however that this was not the type of event you would want to attend solo. I am sure it is done, and I saw a number of guys sitting at the bar, that didn't appear to have wingmen, but I suspect they were regular customers, not a "one off type" of situation.[/QUOTE]Preface: don't bother reading this if saving money, or just getting laid, is the goal for your Bangkok experience. There are lots of other places to go.
Most clubs allow "guests," but of course you have to pay for this "privilege." They want people to check these places out and buy memberships.
The women who work in these places are smart. Most likely they will only "go" with a guy if they like him, and see a large profit from the arrangement.
If you are a G Club member, then it would be no problem to go alone. Have a drink, say hello to a few of your favorite ladies, watch the dancers. Meet up with the gik later after she gets off work.
The following is from a Bangkok "nightlife" website:
"Gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok seem to follow a similar pricing structure. Hopefully, this will help explain why it can be an expensive night at these establishments.
Cover Charge – This normally ranges between 500 600 B, but may be as high as 1, 800 B in some establishments. You will normally get one or two drinks. You can normally circumvent this by opening a bottle of whiskey, and if you have any remainder, a bottle card will be issued to you for another visit.
Lady drinks – This is used as a measure of time or some form of token for charging you the great bill. Whenever you get a nice pretty girl to sit and chat with you, you get charged a lady drink for every 45 minutes she is with you. In some places, depending on the girl, you get charged 2 3 drinks immediately, and then 1 lady drink for the next 45 minutes. Many establishments also charge 2 3 lady drinks for the mamasans company. The girl doesn't really get a drink yet, that's just for her time. If you require the company of the girl outside the establishment, you will most often be charged 10 15 lady drinks, depeding on the day of the week. The 15 lady drink is normally applied to weekends, usually from Friday to Sundays. Most establishments charge 350 B for every lady drink, and you normally get a 20% discount if you are member.
Cocktails – these drinks are regularly requested by the girl. These drinks can drain your wallet very quickly. They cost between 350B 700B, and in some places, the 20% member's discount may not apply."
More information:
[url]http://www.bigmangobar.com/blog/reader-submissions/2009/09/28/bangkok-g-clubs-by-bangkoknyc/[/url]
[url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/other-places/g-clubs/[/url]
[url]http://www.globalnanpa.com/blog/barclub-guide-bangkok/bangkok-gentlemen-g-clubs[/url]
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1242362]Any advice on a good teenage massage? Or where to go afternoon or night if just like FS? Don't like wasting time on massage or soapies. If I want massage I go to a good massage place, if boom boom then just want FS.[/QUOTE]The one's on soi 33 are good! Except steer clear of Akane, nothing but fuglies I'm afraid
[quote=crocodilexp; 1242208]nice post, those places do have an audience. however, this is international [b]sex[/b] guide, so the crowd is appropriately biased.
it's not the "let's hang out and drink at posh places, massage our egos, pretend we're a big shot, and maybe seduce a haughty sponsor-seeking totty" guide. g-clubs are way too overpriced and unreliable for sex, although some people find them good value for other purposes.[/quote]sorry mate but g-clubs are as much about sex as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and a nyc strip club. are the reliable sure things? nope. are they part of the same adult entertainment industry as tilac? pretty much. do you need more game to score in a g-club than in annie's? substantially. men go there for the sexual thrill and excitement of these hot women. otherwise they woul be going someplace to play checkers.
so, they are priced above what you'd like to pay for the mileage you will get. fair enough. but to say they aren't part of the core of isg shows that you would be better of with a jar of lotion and some toilet paper.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1242168]Agreed! To each his own. At 46 I want to put as little effort into getting laid as possible. I have very little interest in interacting with most females unless they are well educated and well read. I doubt I would find that in a G-Club, here or back home for that matter.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. If you are too tired to put in effort this scene is not for you. I recently was out with colleagues who were looking for rub and' tug as picking up in Orchard Towers was too much effort for them. To each his own.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1242373]The one's on soi 33 are good! Except steer clear of Akane, nothing but fuglies I'm afraid[/QUOTE]No stunners a Akane but fuglies they're not plus If you pick the right one the service can be very sway.
[url]http://akane-corp.com/ladies-sukhumvit-33/[/url]
After the session at Annies Massage, I grabbed a steak at a nearby restaurant and then wandered up the road to Nana Plaza to have a look at the gogo bars there. Nana Plaza is a series of bars arranged around a common courtyard and going up three floors. I wandered around the edge of the courtyard on the ground floor, having a quick look inside a couple of the bars before moving on. Eventually entered a bar called Play Skool where the dancers were wearing bikinis where I had a drink before moving on. Other bars visited as I moved my way up the building were:
Mercury (bikini)
Mandarin 2nd floor (topless)
Mandarin 3rd floor (topless)
Erotica 2nd floor (topless, skirts and no knickers)
Erotica 3rd floor (topless)
DC10 (topless and g strings with some hands on action for guys who had a girl sitting with them)
Angelwitch (choreographed show featuring some nudity)
Rainbow 4 (topless)
Spankys (topless)
Billboard (topless with a couple of nude girls soaping themselves up in a Jacuzzi.
There were also a few others which I poked my head into (including a couple of ladyboy bars) , but didn't like the look of and then moved on. Upon having done the round of the top floor it was after midnight and I was feeling a bit run down so I decided to head downstairs and back to the hotel.
Reaching the ground floor again I passed a bar called Pretty Lady which I hadn't looked into earlier. Took a quick look past the curtain covering the doorway at a fairly typical bar with about 8 dancers on stage and one dancing on a table on one side of the bar. They were all wearing bras and miniskirts. I was about to move on when the dancer closest to the door lifted her skirt to reveal that she wasn't wearing any underwear. At this point, little Toby took over and I went inside sat down on a bar stool at the edge of the stage and ordered a beer. The girl who had lifted her skirt was now dancing next to me and had stepped up on to the raised section of the stage around the edge. I was at eye level with her skirt though so couldn't see anything though. The guy who had been guarding the door wandered over and started tapping his finger on the bar in front of me and was obviously trying to tell me something. At first I couldn't work out what it was but then looked down at where he was pointing and discovered that the raised bar section around the edge of the stage was a mirror. With the girl dancing right in front of me, all I had to do was look down at the bar and could see all she had to offer.
After a visit to the men's room, I came back and the first girl was gone, but another had taken her place. She was a bit darker skinned and a bit larger build than most Thai girls, not fat, just built more like a western woman. I bought her a drink and when she's finished her dance stint, she came and sat on the bar stool next to me and after fooling around a bit she started asking the inevitable question about bar fining her. Having had sex a few hours ago I wasn't intending to do so again, but little Toby didn't agree.
We headed off to the hotel room for what was probably the best sex I've had in a while. She didn't do anything particularly spectacular, we just clicked and what followed worked really well. It was sort of like she only had one orgasm, but it lasted half an hour.
Afterwards we went back to the Pretty Lady for another drink before they closed.
Cost: 600 baht for the bar fine and then 2000 baht for her (2000 is a bit expensive but I didn't mind) $84 all up.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242292]Coyotes, g-clubs and hostess bars send the message to bargirls that men will pay them good money to be teased and emasculated as long as they're made to feel like a big shot and the girl is a bit snotty. There seems to be an assumption amongst some members of the forum that going out to girly clubs where you can't have sex with the girls somehow makes makes you more intelligent and cultured than going out to girly clubs where you can. If there is any logic behind this assumption I would like to hear it. It is quite possible to enjoy sex and not be a caveman, and paying high prices to women who won't have sex with you doesn't necessarily mean you're not a caveman.
GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?[/QUOTE]I monger in China and the Philippines. I have been to expensive secret KTVs in Shenzhen and Guangzhou where there was no point in even writing a field report because its similar to describing color to a blind man. If you do not know about it, you can't go. I had the pleasure of being with Skyrider on this trip and I do not recall the actual name of the place however it had lots of vowels and an M. So something like MAIAKE. The parking lot was filled with expensive cars and we were the only white boys in the place.
You can argue that the girls were expensive. You would be wrong. How much does a lady drink on Soi Cowboy or Nana cost and how quickly do the good looking girls slam them back and ask for another one. Lets see. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes. (whether I agreed to buy one or not is another story)
Could you take these girls home? Certainly. I witnessed several people going home with their hands full. Is there a set price or bar fine. Nope. Its up to YOU to make it happen. Similar to are the girls on Soi Cowboy available to take home. Certainly. Does that mean you pay the barfine and she fucks your brains out. NOPE. You still have to discuss price on ST or LT or anal or greek or ladyboy or threesome or whatever else it does that gets you off.
Have I witnessed anything like this club anywhere else before? No. I can safely say I have not. I have been to many places that had lots of beautiful women, (that wouldn't give you the time of day unless you walked in with Brad Pitt. Thats what you get for partying where the real celebs party) I have been to many places where beautiful women are excited about playing with you for money (its called a KTV and its the "normal" style mongering in China). However, most KTV girls have preset prices for short term or long term (I laugh at the locations where this has to be negotiated!). The ones that don't, do not go out. (or follow the same setup this establishment does.)
Anyway, back to this particular night. A lady drink cost 245 baht. This was the "sitting" fee for the girl to sit with you for 45 minutes (or so it was explained to me). So for 5 baht less than the lady drink I bought for the stunner in Baccarat, I had a cute fun girl that could speak perfect english partying with me. I had a hard time choosing because ALL the girls were soo good. If they were here in China with me, I would try most of them! There has not been a place like that ANYWHERE else I have been.
I am not sure if a farang could even buy a membership here as. We were the only farangs in the club that night.
Nowhere did he say that it makes you more intelligent or cultured to go to a club or bar or location where you pay money and do not have sex with the girl. He is just saying there is much more to mongering than finding the cheapest hole to stick your dick into until you cum. If YOU do not think there is, thats fine, however it does not diminish the enjoyment that people can get from whatever it is that makes them happy.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the seedy thrill of a dirt cheap fuck in the back of some hovel with a cute girl, but I also enjoy a beauty playing and dancing with me. If all you want is the orgasm, your cheapest provider is always available and directly connected to you.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1242341]Sexy girls, booze, party? The G-club sounds good to me, I'll have to splurge there next time I'm in BKK. I'm assuming its best to go with a wingman or group of friends rather than solo, not only to have company with the bros, but to share costs.
Out of curiosity, do they allow entry to African Americans? On my next visit to BKK, I'll be bringing along for a few days a fairly decent looking black dude.[/QUOTE]Going solo is possible if you have been before and know whom you are going to book and theres chemistry already, she speaks English or you speak Thai, etc. But generally yeah, groups rule.
Some places have racist policies in place but the places I frequent the most are fine. You can be black, white, Indian. If you found the place and conduct yourself well you won't be refused.
You are right. Mai Ake is a large and very popular club. It has been consistently busy. I have membership there since 2009 and it's my second most favorite G-Club here.
Good choice!
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1242437]I am not sure if a farang could even buy a membership here as. We were the only farangs in the club that night.[/QUOTE]Definitely can. You don't see many there because 1) They mostly don't "get" the concept and 2) It's far away from areas where lots of farang tend to live.
There are similar establishments closer to where farang live and accordingly you will run into more farang when you go there, prices are higher and there's more silicone and English-speaking girls around (For exaple The Pent on Wireless Road, Sherbet and Piano in Ekkamai, St. Moritz in Sukhumvit 11.). Girls tend to be pushier there, too. Asking for cocktails and shit. Then you get the bill which is a collation of hand-written chits in Thai that nobody can reconcile at 2am. I went through 12 bottles at the Pent and never went back after that.
The really "Thai" places in the suburbs that are successful tend to have very customer friendly policies. Places I frequent you get a machine printed, itemized bill that is properly explained to you and girls cannot ask for anything off the menu. They drink your whiskey from your bottle and the mixers are free. That's it. Once we had a service issue and the bill was cut in half. Customer service at it's best!
Mai Ake is a very good choice. If you speak no Thai you are limited to a sales person (and girls) who speak some English which is another barrier to entry for some but no issue if you get referred.
They will be happy to sell you membership. Standard going rate is 10000 baht for 6 bottles of black as the smaller package. On "Party Nights" there's usually a bonus for signups (I. E. An extra bottle).
Value increases in the bigger packages but they tend to have 1 year expiration so you don't want to go overboard.
Another thing (Take it from the guy whose name is CoyoteLover) : Your sales person IS KEY to a good time. If they don't respect you, you will see B-grade girls and get no proper Intel on them. A good sales person will ensure you have a good time.
Rates for girls have a flag-fall to avoid dickheads coming in at 10pm on a Friday night, book the 20 hottest girls and leave just after midnight. It's usually 3 drinks for a coyote and 2 drinks for PR. A drink for your sales person is optional and shouldn't be forced upon you.
On a typical night we rock up at 10pm and have 3 girls and party until 3am. Bill will come to around 9000 baht. But this includes sheesha, top less model shows from external girls, live music, etc.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1242292]GuyRyder in his post said a trip to a g-club was a one in a lifetime experience, better than any he'd had in any other country in the world.
Are any other forum members willing to back him on this?[/QUOTE]Slightly different venue, same concept.
I like to eat food that is plentiful, cheap and good. I can go to a buffet to stuff my face all I want and I do it often. In LOS I eat on the street. That's my usual style of eating.
I once had a client take me to a very private dinner club. It served one meal a week to 12 people at a time. The food was prepared by a different chef each week. All chefs were culinary artists on the Iron Chef level. This was where they practiced and experimented before competitions. Each course was a work of visual art and had 4-5 bites of the most exquisite flavors you ever put in your mouth. It was served by the chef with full explanation of his techniques and goals. The wine was served and explained by the club owner, a wine merchant, and was perfectly matched to each course. I also travel the world and have certainly enjoyed fine dining, but this totally blew me away.
The price was $450 per person. It was a once in a lifetime experience and by far, the best food I've ever tasted. But I still had to stop at Mc Donalds on the way home to fill my belly.
I hope to get a chance to go to a top level G-club in BKK. It would be an experience that I would enjoy. But I would probably hit the streets near my hotel on the way home to grab a bite and a companion for the rest of the night.
So a big thank you to Sky Ryder and Fon Tok for some insights into the G-clubs. It does sound like a very interesting experience.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1242322]I thought that was fair until she took off her clothes! Wow, talk about someone looking hot in clothes and ugly without! I shriveled up like a California raisin in the middle of the Mojave Desert and told her I do not feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]The best thing about cowboy bars, is seeing the entire package naked, getting to chat to the girl for a while to check for basic chemistry. Once I have decided she is too hot to resist, for price of 2 or 3 drinks, only then do I need make a decision. If I have doubts, I can call over some other girl to consider. I ignore girls that want to sit next to me uncalled for. I do the choosing as I am paying.
My criteria: pretty face, hot body preferably all natural, not too pushy or demanding or self-centered, friendly, lack of apparent acting, fun loving, good dancer, able to behave when needed. Notice I didn't mention price. The subject of how much rarely arises, probably because I am known at certain bars as fair to generous.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1242394]Fair enough. If you are too tired to put in effort this scene is not for you. I recently was out with colleagues who were looking for rub and' tug as picking up in Orchard Towers was too much effort for them. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Pita, it really has nothing to do with tired. After 12 years of residency in Thailand and spending time in various different "scenes," I just find most of the gals to be rather uninteresting. They have very little to add in the way of conversation. Most are not very well educated and can talk only about what they "like" or what they "want," which I find, well rather boring for lack of a better term. Now, if I could go into one of these clubs and find a gal that was well read, knew a little more about music than the latest Rhianna hit, had even a slight grasp of current events, and perhaps had read a book or two, then I would enjoy sitting with them and drinking. I have not found that to be the case even in the G-Clubs. As I said in a previous post, I am the customer, last thing want to do is have to romance a working girl. Kind of opposite I think. She is being paid so it should be her that is trying to sell me, not me trying to sell myself to her and then pay.
Kind of like going into Prada and begging to buy a bag.
[quote=pita123; 1242389]sorry mate but g-clubs are as much about sex as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and a nyc strip club. are the reliable sure things? nope. are they part of the same adult entertainment industry as tilac? pretty much. do you need more game to score in a g-club than in annie's? substantially. men go there for the sexual thrill and excitement of these hot women. otherwise they woul be going someplace to play checkers.
so, they are priced above what you'd like to pay for the mileage you will get. fair enough. but to say they aren't part of the core of isg shows that you would be better of with a jar of lotion and some toilet paper.[/quote]again, why should i need to have "game" if i am the one paying? i have been to these places and yes, the girls are nice looking, but really, i am still the customer. i was always amazed at the thai guys i saw wh%^*mancing these girls. but, to each his own. i would rather spend that money on a really nice meal and a bottle of wine and then head to mango and get the pipes cleaned! i mean, hey, after i've come a couple of times i can't get away from the gal fast enough. that is when her lacking intellect really shines through.
i view these gals as service providers. i would never consider one for a girlfriend. the mia noi thing is nothing but a headache, and that is what most g-club gals end up being. a thai guy would not take one home to meet mama.
but i do agree with you that discussions of these places do belong on the isg! most certainly. we cater to all tastes and there is room for all opinions and thoughts.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1242457]The best thing about cowboy bars, is seeing the entire package naked, getting to chat to the girl for a while to check for basic chemistry. Once I have decided she is too hot to resist, for price of 2 or 3 drinks, only then do I need make a decision. If I have doubts, I can call over some other girl to consider. I ignore girls that want to sit next to me uncalled for. I do the choosing as I am paying.
My criteria: pretty face, hot body preferably all natural, not too pushy or demanding or self-centered, friendly, lack of apparent acting, fun loving, good dancer, able to behave when needed. Notice I didn't mention price. The subject of how much rarely arises, probably because I am known at certain bars as fair to generous.[/QUOTE]I am sure you know the places better than me. I was there last week. I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.
[QUOTE=CoyoteLover;1242445]You are right. Mai Ake is a large and very popular club. It has been consistently busy. I have membership there since 2009 and it's my second most favorite G-Club here.[/QUOTE]What's your first choice then?
10, 000 for 6 bottles is very reasonable compared to what one can spend in, say, RCA.
Do you party in a big room with lots of people or do you get your private room in those G-clubs?
What do you mean by "sales person"?
I looked at some Mai-ake videos on youtube and I wasn't impressed. It kind of looks like a gogo with a bigger stage and more clubby music. The girls don't look better than Baccara or Rainbow girls (in fact many look worse)... The dancing isn't better either...what gives?
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1242437]You can argue that the girls were expensive. You would be wrong. How much does a lady drink on Soi Cowboy or Nana cost and how quickly do the good looking girls slam them back and ask for another one. Lets see. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes.[/QUOTE]To be fair though, you do not have to buy a drink to your girl in a gogo if you don't want to. I almost never do. I choose my girl, chat for a few minutes (telling her, if she asks, that we don't need to buy drinks as we'll leave shortly) and take her out (or not).
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242542]I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.[/QUOTE]Not my experience in gogos at all. If you are having fun, the girls have fun with you. You are right that they are mostly bored, but that's a good thing. Most clients are boring, if you are not, the girls will love you. They have to be there for 8 hours every day, they are dying to be entertained and have some sanook time.
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1242451]Slightly different venue, same concept.
I like to eat food that is plentiful, cheap and good. I can go to a buffet to stuff my face all I want and I do it often. In LOS I eat on the street. That's my usual style of eating.
I once had a client take me to a very private dinner club. It served one meal a week to 12 people at a time. The food was prepared by a different chef each week. All chefs were culinary artists on the Iron Chef level. This was where they practiced and experimented before competitions. Each course was a work of visual art and had 4-5 bites of the most exquisite flavors you ever put in your mouth. It was served by the chef with full explanation of his techniques and goals. The wine was served and explained by the club owner, a wine merchant, and was perfectly matched to each course. I also travel the world and have certainly enjoyed fine dining, but this totally blew me away.
The price was $450 per person. It was a once in a lifetime experience and by far, the best food I've ever tasted. But I still had to stop at Mc Donalds on the way home to fill my belly.
I hope to get a chance to go to a top level G-club in BKK. It would be an experience that I would enjoy. But I would probably hit the streets near my hotel on the way home to grab a bite and a companion for the rest of the night.
So a big thank you to Sky Ryder and Fon Tok for some insights into the G-clubs. It does sound like a very interesting experience.
Pogo[/QUOTE]Thank you Pogo for an excellent analogy of your food experience to SkyRyder's experience in a G-Club. I think its great that people share their experiences and SkyRyder's post is the real deal as I was the one that got invited by my customers to go the Maiake and because he and JustSeven was with me at the time when we were in a gogo-bar, I decided to bring them along (my FR on this place will be posted at a later time). Everyone is entitled to their opionion and point of view, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone goes to BKK to have a good time. This forum is to share information and experiences so for the many that do, thank you, and for the few, continue as you like because that is your POV.
BSD
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242542]I am sure you know the places better than me. I was there last week. I did not find one girl that meets your criteria in a Gogo. They all seemed bored, talking to each other, looking at themselves in the mirrors, texting while on stage, arrogant in attitude when I spoke to them. You mentioned good dancer? I never saw one. The SW's I found were better than those girls in the Gogo's. I think overall, they are a poor investment of time and money. But, to each their own.[/QUOTE]Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1242437]. I was at Baccarat on Cowboy and each lady drink was 250 and the girl kept asking for one every ten minutes.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Just Seven;1242437]A lady drink cost 245 baht. This was the "sitting" fee for the girl to sit with you for 45 minutes (or so it was explained to me). So for 5 baht less than the lady drink I bought for the stunner in Baccarat, I had a cute fun girl that could speak perfect english partying with me.[/QUOTE]Excellent perspective. Just a correction on point of fact. Lady drinks in Baccara are 150 baht. Some bars do have "cocktails" for "coyotes", but all have normal lady drinks for between 90 baht (some of the small grubby bars) to 150 or so.
At G-Clubs if you've bought a membership a "drink" costs between 180 and 260 or so, and the sitting time varies between 30 minutes and 45 minutes or so. Different price depending on whether you're a member or not, non-member prices aren't really worthwhile.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1242756]Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.[/QUOTE]And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1242756]Thailand, especially Bangkok is so overpriced these days. They just sit around bored until the right desperate idiot comes and throws the approved amount at them.[/QUOTE]Thailand is twice as expensive as it was when I moved here 12 years ago and it is not all the strength of the currency. Value for money is not great anymore. Many things are far more expensive than in the US or Europe."Local" things are still cheap, but if you want to live any semblance of a Western lifestyle you better have some bucks.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242776]And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.[/QUOTE]Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1242707]Not my experience in gogos at all. If you are having fun, the girls have fun with you. You are right that they are mostly bored, but that's a good thing. Most clients are boring, if you are not, the girls will love you. They have to be there for 8 hours every day, they are dying to be entertained and have some sanook time.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you know how to have fun. From the girls' perspective of having to make pus love with every scuzzie eddie, how can they be expected to warm up to whatever walks through the door. You only get what you play for.
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1242794]Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.[/QUOTE]Well said. This thread has occasionnally some comments from frustrated "white" men who cannot afford what the "japs" as they call them can. They are being snubbed by the girls, so they vent their frustration on this board. With they 6 inches penis, but 1k bath and zero minute, they can't fuck. Well. Who cares, surely not the japanese, who usually just mind their own business, and could not give a damn if they pay a price that poor farangs can't afford. Ganbatte Nihon!
[QUOTE=Dreams;1242813]Well said. This thread has occasionnally some comments from frustrated "white" men who cannot afford what the "japs" as they call them can. They are being snubbed by the girls, so they vent their frustration on this board. With they 6 inches penis, but 1k bath and zero minute, they can't fuck. Well. Who cares, surely not the japanese, who usually just mind their own business, and could not give a damn if they pay a price that poor farangs can't afford. Ganbatte Nihon![/QUOTE]You know what they say about a fool and his money. They are soon parted. Sadly a fool and his opinion never seem to depart from each other!
What other people spend their money on has little to do with me as my issue is finding a girl I want to spend money on rather than the amount of money she actually wants :P.
That does not mean I don't frequently take a girl for a spin.
I do have to say, I enjoyed watching other races in the go go bars. They teach me new ways to play with my girls (koreans in AC played a game of complicated rock paper scissors for 20 pesos a round, totally fun!) (Chinese punters in KTVs have showed me countless games to play!) (*westerners have showed me how to stretch a buck to its breaking point * if you can't tell thats a joke, I put the stars there beforehand just to clue you in that this is supposed to be a joke!)
Oh ps, I am a white boy. Though apart from my one awesome night, I did not enjoy Bangkok as much as Angeles City. I have much to learn and will certainly give it another go.
I am still looking for a particular girl, which seems to be pretty hard to find (lots of tattoos, able to dance, etc etc, yes there are TWO at Baccara but had been fully booked when I was there!)
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242776]And that is usually a Japanese man. Nothing against them, just saying.[/QUOTE]Not to forget the Americans, because everything is so dirt cheap compared to back home... I am thinking to go to the US and spend double for everything they ask, just because I can afford it.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1242783]Thailand is twice as expensive as it was when I moved here 12 years ago and it is not all the strength of the currency. Value for money is not great anymore. Many things are far more expensive than in the US or Europe."Local" things are still cheap, but if you want to live any semblance of a Western lifestyle you better have some bucks.[/QUOTE]To Goatscrot
Yes Bangkok is expensive now days I agree is more than double form 12 yr ago but other country is the same some are more than double like Angeles city PI and Phnom penh Cambodia cost of Mongering
Is going up fast, I am in Pattaya now was in Bangkok 2 days ago is not easy to find good quality ST for under 1000 bht anymore.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Big Swingin Dave; 1242713]Thank you Pogo for an excellent analogy of your food experience to SkyRyder's experience in a G-Club. I think its great that people share their experiences and SkyRyder's post is the real deal as I was the one that got invited by my customers to go the Maiake and because he and JustSeven was with me at the time when we were in a gogo-bar, I decided to bring them along (my FR on this place will be posted at a later time). Everyone is entitled to their opionion and point of view, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and everyone goes to BKK to have a good time. This forum is to share information and experiences so for the many that do, thank you, and for the few, continue as you like because that is your POV.
BSD[/QUOTE]I've gone to Thailand quite a few times. Especially in the past as I had a bit of business there at one time.
I've gone to just about all the usual haunts for gentlemanly pursuits (including some of these G-clubs) and I've enjoyed each and every place for its own particular "entertainment" value.
And for the life of me I can NOT understand why anyone would begrudge Skyrider reporting on his night at a G-club.
I mean. Its different strokes for different folks, Right? And just so long as it contributes to the body knowledge here, what's the big deal?
I know Sky rider personally and I can vouch that he's no snot faced li'l newbie to the mongering world.
What's with the unprovoked attack?
I really don't get it.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1242862]Not to forget the Americans, because everything is so dirt cheap compared to back home. I am thinking to go to the US and spend double for everything they ask, just because I can afford it.[/QUOTE]No need to spend double, the US price is comparably cheap so foreigners upgrade or buy more at whatever price is asked. This is what is happening in the South Florida Real Estate Market. The big buyers are foreign nationals. Brazilians, Venezuelans, Peruvians, and Chinese are paying up and buying multi million homes and condos. They seem to be the only ones in buy mode. Why? Primarily because they think it is cheap and also they consider the US still a good place to park their money. Most of these buyers pay cash! They don't pay double, they don't have to. They just pay the asking price which is too high for many Americans, but not too high for the foreign nationals. As a result, the Miami market is turning. On the table in downtown Miami is a multi 100 million dollar construction project to create a huge super deluxe gambling casino complex proposed and completely financed by a Malaysian firm. I hope they get the required government approval. This could make Miami the next Macau. Miami saunas, that should be good.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1242863]To Goatscrot
Yes Bangkok is expensive now days I agree is more than double form 12 yr ago but other country is the same some are more than double like Angeles city PI and Phnom penh Cambodia cost of Mongering
Is going up fast, I am in Pattaya now was in Bangkok 2 days ago is not easy to find good quality ST for under 1000 bht anymore.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]More and more men = higher and higher prices. Just supply and demand and it shows just how bad women are back in Farangland!
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1242794]Haha blatant racial dig. Nothing against racists, just saying.[/QUOTE]You assume that because you obviously have never been to the Bangkok Gogo's. Unlike you, I was in Baccara, Shark's, etc. about a week ago. It is 80-90% Japanese now and they are paying the high prices for poor service. So take your racist rants someplace else.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1242899]You assume that because you obviously have never been to the Bangkok Gogo's. Unlike you, I was in Baccara, Shark's, etc. about a week ago. It is 80-90% Japanese now and they are paying the high prices for poor service. So take your racist rants someplace else.[/QUOTE]Obviously I have never been there. Except for last week, when I was there. In Baccara. And a bunch of other GoGos on Cowboy and Nana. Nice try though! I am sure you are highly educated. But math can be pretty hard sometimes, specially those pesky fractions and percents! If 80-90% of the patrons are Japanese. That would mean if 10 people are in the establishment. 8 or 9 of them are Japanese. So that means when I walked into Baccara with 4 of my friends at LEAST THIRTY TWO Japanese had to follow me there! Now something a little more plausible (I am an optimist) , perhaps 80-90% of the clientele are Asian. You do know the difference between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Malaysian right? Of course you do!
So to continue. What is poor service? How do you know they are receiving poor service? Whats a high price? Who determines what a high price is? Please inform me what poor service is and what a high price is so that I can make sure to get good service at a low price. (I could offer you examples of buying power etc etc but it would be like explaining economics to a racist) oh wait!
I happen to like Baccara. IMHO, just my opinion, it is the best bar on Cowboy. The reason is simple; they have the largest and best selection of girls. Now don't get me wrong, what I am saying is not that much. On any given night I am happy if I spot 3, 4 or 5 seriously cute girls there. That is all. We can talk about the decline of Go Go talent on Cowboy over the last decade another time.
So for todays' subject; I admit I like Baccara and I am a frequent customer when I am in town. The place has a good mix of clientele, the majority of which is Asian, but there are plenty of western guys too. I am always comfortable hunting in Baccara. The Asians don't bother me one bit. They seem worthy competition if you want to look at it that way or just fellow punters if you want to see it another way. I have seen very little bad behavior or boorishness from them. And everybody seems to get on fine.
A little personal anecdote:
I was in Baccara one night last year and spotted a little cutie dancing on stage. I smiled at her and she smiled back so I gestured that she should join me at my table after her dance set. She came over and sat close. We talked, I bought her a drink, and we got friendly if you know what I mean. Long story short, I bar fined her, paid the bill and left a small tip which did not go unnoticed or unappreciated by the waitress. I took my girl back to the Admiral Premier. I had one of their large suites. We sat down in the living room, I mixed us both a vodka and orange juice, and we watched some Jennifer Aniston movie. Now I am not much interested in J. A, but my Thai girl's take on the American romantic comedy and the plight of the heroine was interesting and funny. We started making out on the couch and soon adjourned to the bathroom for soapy shower. I played with her small conical breasts while she washed my dick. Then we moved on to the bed for some BBBJ and very nice sex in multiple positions. When it was over we kissed and cuddled for a while before we both got dressed and went back to the living room. I took some photos and we talked some more. I told her I liked her a lot and had a real nice time getting to know her. She gave me her cell number. She told me she was going to school to study computers. I encouraged her even though I took everything she said with a grain of salt. As we walked lovey dovey, hand in hand back to Cowboy and Baccara, I told her I would like to see her again tomorrow night. She said she would look forward to it. We set the time for our rendezvous at around 8:30. I took her back to Baccara. It was around 11 by that time. We got a booth and I ordered some drinks for us. My girl never wandered or left me. Over the next 90 minutes, a few of her friends came by and I offered them drinks too. I even bought a drink for the waitress. Everybody was having a good time. Now I am no newbie. I knew exactly what I was doing. I was out having a great time in Bangkok with a very cute little 21 year old girl. I was also very much aware that everything I did reflected positively on me and my girl. The waitress's and the other girls notice it all. The girls talk shop amongst themselves. Yada, yada, yada. Around 12:30, I decided to call it a night. I settled the bar tab which was not too much and tipped the waitress again. My girl decided to call it a night as well and I walked her out to Soi 23 where I took a left turn and she got on a motorcycle taxi. Before we parted she asked again if I was coming by Baccara tomorrow night. I said, for sure and she kissed me goodbye.
The next day I did the usual BKK stuff and thought about whether I was really going to keep my Go Go date or get laid at a massage parlor instead. I am usually a butterfly, but I really liked the girl. She had a very cute face, a great spinner body, and a demure personality so I decided to see her again. Here comes the point of this story. I arrived a little late for our date. It must have been around 9pm. Baccara was going strong with a full house. The clientele were mostly Asian, but who gives a shit. As soon as I walked in, the waitress from last night recognized me and smiled. Somehow she found a booth for me and I sat down. I saw my girl a few tables down, but she was sitting with a Korean guy. The waitress asked me if everything was OK. I said sure and ordered a drink. And everything was ok. I was late and my girl who is a working girl was with another customer. I didn't give a damn. There are lots of fish in the Baccara sea. My girl saw me and gave me a knowing nod. I smiled back at her, but I began to watch the girls on stage. In less than 5 minutes, the Korean guy got up, paid for his drinks, and walked out of the bar with a slight look of dissatisfaction on his face. My little girl came bouncing over and through her arms around me. We said our Hello, 's how are you's, she said she was happy to see me and we started making out. The waitress brought my beer and smiled at us. Then we repeated the last night all over again and I had a another great night in BKK.
I don't know what the moral of this story is except maybe 1. Baccara is still a pretty damn good bar. 2. If you know how to play the game everything falls into place. 3. Don't worry about what the other guy is doing, focus on the prize, the pussy. 4. Treat your girls nice and lastly, if you can't afford to play in this playground or just don't like it for some reason, that's ok, but don't knock others who do like it here and are willing to pay to play here. BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.
Great report Natty. Like you said, mostly Asian (Japanese from my observation) customers in those places nowadays. They really love the Gogo's. I believe they do have a tendency to overpay for the services they get. But, they have the money so be it.
Great post Natty. I like Baccara too.
On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1242955]I happen to like Baccara. IMHO, just my opinion, it is the best bar on Cowboy. The reason is simple; they have the largest and best selection of girls. Now don't get me wrong, what I am saying is not that much.
I don't know what the moral of this story is except maybe 1. Baccara is still a pretty damn good bar. 2. If you know how to play the game everything falls into place. 3. Don't worry about what the other guy is doing, focus on the prize, the pussy. 4. Treat your girls nice and lastly, if you can't afford to play in this playground or just don't like it for some reason, that's ok, but don't knock others who do like it here and are willing to pay to play here. BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.[/QUOTE]Excellent post!
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1243022]On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?[/QUOTE]3000 Baht LT in Suzie Wong, last December. Last June I got a very hot spinner from Suzie Wong for less than 2000 baht LT (tip included, she was that good) , but then it was after 10PM and business was slow.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1243070]3000 Baht LT in Suzie Wong, last December. Last June I got a very hot spinner from Suzie Wong for less than 2000 baht LT (tip included, she was that good) , but then it was after 10PM and business was slow.[/QUOTE]I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1243022]On the topic of overpaying in Gogos. How much do you guys pay then? I'll admit I don't negotiate. I go to the more expensive bars (Rainbow, Bacarra) and I pay 2000 ST (if the service is good). How much do you guys pay? Tell us what you get away with, and in which bars. Do you have a strategy eg offer less if you are a regular, or if it's late and a quiet day?[/QUOTE]No strategy. I just ask "1500 OK?", and 90+% of the time the answer is "OK". Of course I only ask that when I'm already pretty confident that it's the right girl.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1243074]I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.[/QUOTE]I won't pay that for a beer either. For ST with a gogo gal or FL, it is 1000 baht max for me. BUT at an oily I have no problem dishing out 2100 baht for an hour and a half of GREAT service.
@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?
For 1000 ST or 2000 LT as claimed by Goatscrot and Tiger 888 respectively, I would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. I don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
For all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done ;) If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here...
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1243105]@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?
For 1000 ST or 2000 LT as claimed by Goatscrot and Tiger 888 respectively, I would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. I don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
For all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done. If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.[/QUOTE]Its quite simple. Don't ask "how much? Make an offer to her. Otherwise the baseline for negotiation is set by her and not you.
Explain "I pay B1200 for short time" or something like that. Smile when you say it and expect that she will accept. If she.
Doesn't want that price she may say "B2000" and you can counter and say "I can only pay B1500". If she does not agree then.
Pleasantly say "sorry too much for me. Thank you".
Smile and be friendly the whole time and if it goes sour, be polite and thank her anyways. Then find one who will accept.
I don't think the stunners will do anything less than 4k LT and 2K ST. In fact, some girls will not do LT when they can do ST 5-6 times per night. That's why its best to go early on and not be the last in line, smelling some dude's funk lol
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1243105]@Rocksof: we are talking 1500 ST correct? I've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. But let's specify the bars as well. I've never tried negotiating in the Rainbows although I'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. In Mandarin, Erotica and the second-tier bars, I have and it worked. Where did you get your 1500 ST and when?[/QUOTE]Bars where I've gotten it that I can remember by name are Mandarin & Erotica at Nana, and at Fanny's, Long Gun & Rawhide at Cowboy. This isn't at any particular time of the evening, not especially late. I've had 2000 LT at Afterschool and Long Gun or Rawhide (I always mix them up). I've also been offered 1000 ST at Long Gun or Rawhide, forget which. Fanny's has some rugged girls, but they also sometimes have cuties. Last time I was in Silver Star soi 7 in Pattaya, after 1AM, I was offered 1000 LT, as reported.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1242955]BKK has something for everybody. Some venues I like a lot and some places I don't bother with at all. Up to you where you want to go.[/QUOTE]Natty Bumpo,
You are So, So right! There really is "Something for EVERYONE" in BKK!
Whether you like Young or old, Dark skinned or light, Slim or chunky then just look around and you will be a "happy bunny" in BKK."
Even if you fancy a change from the local Asian girls there are opportunities to find Africans, Russians and even the occasional European girl to "ring the changes!"
I have NEVER been disappointed during my trips there!
I would go as far as to say that, in MY opinion, if you can not find a GREAT time in BKK than you will not have a good time ANYWHERE!
Enjoy (I do.)
Hotman
Was in BKK the first part of December and was looking at the talent on Soi Cowboy. A few years ago I had stopped in at After School and while there had that sudden urge. So I had some girls join me in naughty boy corner and fix that urge. This time I went in to have a drink and see what was going on. Not much happening and the girls didn't seem interested in going to the corner for with anyone in there. After 30 minutes or so I left and found a companion for the night.
My question, has After School dropped the corner activities? There were some girls working but it was not over crowded with them.
[quote=chill out; 1243105]@rocksof: we are talking 1500 st correct? i've had that as well, you are right that it's not that hard. but let's specify the bars as well. i've never tried negotiating in the rainbows although i'm sure it's doable, just never been bothered to. in mandarin, erotica and the second-tier bars, i have and it worked. where did you get your 1500 st and when?
for 1000 st or 2000 lt as claimed by goatscrot and tiger 888 respectively, i would love to know how they do it as that's basically half of the asking rate. i don't question it's doable, just would like to know more about which bars this has worked in, how much "nos" they get vs "yes", etc.
for all the guys who say some of us overpay, this is the time to tell us how it's done. if i'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.[/quote]chill, i don't take gogo girls as a rule (i have always preferred fls, although now i am an oily guy). i speak pretty good thai, and that turns off quite a few of them, but when you are able to joke with them in their language it wins points. i normally talk a bit nasty with them in thai and those that respond can be good to go. those that are offended, well, i move on. i have also lived here for 12 years and have been around the bars (especially cowboy) on quite a few evenings over the last decade. i am quite direct with girls about what i pay and what i expect in return. while looks are important, so is performance. if a gal won't accept my offer or my terms, i simply move on. there is always tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon at the oilies, so if a gal is not interested, mai pen rai! the longer i am here the less i want to interact with bar girls. i find them to be quite boring same song and dance, so for me it is about great service and then getting out of there. i am not looking for a date or a companion. i want a great session. sweet girls are a turn off for me. i like gals with dirty minds who actually like the act of sex and have just happened to find out they can make money doing it. that is why i prefer fls. they normally don't make promises they don't intend to keep.
beautiful thing about thermae in years past (not now) is that all the gals would exchange stories about the regular guys. you would go with a gal and she would know what you liked and would even comment on your size before she saw you naked. kind of a fun little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url] place back in the day.
i fully understand that those on holiday have a far different agenda than mine. bkk affords many different things to different people and that is what is great about it. residents have an advantage, and that is time.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1243105]If I'm not mistaken it's been quite a while since prices have been discussed here.[/QUOTE]We are desperately missing this! LOL
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1243228]I speak pretty good Thai, and that turns off quite a few of them, but when you are able to joke with them in their language it wins points. I normally talk a bit nasty with them in Thai and those that respond can be good to go. Those that are offended, well, I move on.[/QUOTE]Yes, speaking ugly Thai will turn off most classier type of girls. Talking nasty / dirty should be confined to English. Non-Thais just don't understand how bad impolite Thai can sound. I was shocked to hear the bar-girl say she was "ngian" as this would be a forbidden word for many. So guys should be very careful what words are used till know the girl better.
While on the subject of the high end g-club girls, I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found. Not saying anyone would confine themselves to this, but it would be an interesting option to have, when other options are exhausted or just want a change of scenery.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1243291]Yes, speaking ugly Thai will turn off most classier type of girls. Talking nasty / dirty should be confined to English. Non-Thais just don't understand how bad impolite Thai can sound. I was shocked to hear the bar-girl say she was "ngian" as this would be a forbidden word for many. So guys should be very careful what words are used till know the girl better.[/QUOTE]Syz, Same Same in the West. Some folks are easily offended. I want a working girl that has no issues with being nasty, that is why I hit them with "ngian" and "Pom Yaak Yet" pretty quickly, with a sheepish smile on my face. If they laugh, then I have found a good sport, if they scowl and leave, well. The test has proved its point.
These are "bar girls," they have had quite a few see*ks in them. Having an issue about being naughty is a flaw for one in that occupation.
Now of course in any other setting I watch my Ps and Qs.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1243074]I have until last year always gotten LT for 2000 Baht. Even in Rainbow. Not sure if it still can be had. I am not going to places where they charge 150+ baht for a beer. That is a day's salary for some locals.[/QUOTE]To Tiger 888.
I was at Rainbow 4 2 days ago they want 2000 st and 3000 LT the best looking one will not budge, some will go down to 2500 LT and barfine is now 600 Bht
Bangkok is no bargin anymore but it is still much cheaper than the US and HK.
Fast Eddie 48
Goatscrot, good post and good points!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1243120]In fact, some girls will not do LT when they can do ST 5-6 times per night.[/QUOTE]I think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. Often I take a stunner out and I'm her first client of the night at 11-12 PM (on weekdays). Weekend nights get busier but even then I doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. Correct me if I am wrong on this.
[quote=chill out; 1243418]goatscrot, good post and good points!
i think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. often i take a stunner out and i'm her first client of the night at 11-12 pm (on weekdays). weekend nights get busier but even then i doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. correct me if i am wrong on this.[/quote]let's look into it more scientifically.
say the agogos really start around 8pm. before that time not much moves. in soi cowboy, you see the girls still eating outside of their bars.
say also that after 2 am, not much will happen too, especially on a weekday.
that leaves 6 hours of effective working time.
how long do you think an average st will take? first the girl has to chat up her customer, drink her ladydrink, negotiate price & conditions, that will easily take half an hour (at least). then when the deal is made, she goes and change into her normal clothes and joins her man to go to his hotel: again all this can easily take another 20 minutes to half an hour. checking in, going to the room, cuddle, hug & kiss a bit, have a drink, showering (most want to shower separately) , peeling her out of her towel: if you can do that in 15 minutes you have rushed it, more likely again 20 minutes to half an hour.
before you can start making love to her, she is perhaps already "working" one and a half hour. performing her services will vary wildly i guess, but on the average let's use a figure of about 45 minutes. then shower again, get dressed and go back to the agogo. perhaps she has a bite of food before going back "on duty".
easily a short time "one pop" can take her off line for up to 3 hours. if she can do 2 st clients a night, every night, she is probably considered one of the top performers in her bar.
and this tallies well when you compare the st and lt prices: about 2000 st and 3000 lt. if the girls would do an average of 3 sts a night then the lt price should be much more. i think most are happy if they can do one st a night and i would not be surprised that many go home without having done any st at all.
actually, a girl i took from suzie wong last december (3000 baht. lt) told me her main income is from ladydrinks. and a lt makes her miss most of that income. to her that explained the difference between st and lt prices and this confirmed my opinion that most girls do at most perhaps one st a night and perhaps not even every night.
of course, the above is a typical "agogo" scenario. it would be totally different in a pattaya "soi 6" bar with in-house st rooms, where you can be in-and-out in 30 minutes.
Yes Wolvenvacht, I also did the same thinking re:time and reached similar conclusions :)
Even if a girl was taken by a costumer immediately on coming to the bar and immediately again each time she comes back from a ST, she wouldn't have time to do this more than 2 or 3 times. And as we all know, even beautiful girls can dance a few rounds before getting called by a customer, if they get called at all. Then most costumers take 30 minutes or more before they barfine.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1243432]I think most are happy if they can do one ST a night and I would not be surprised that many go home without having done any ST at all.[/QUOTE]Yes that's accurate for gogos in my experience. Less so in soapies where they get more costumers; almost all customers who get in partake; customers decide faster and do the deed faster. I have a good friend working in a high-end soapie, she knows when she goes to work that she will get at least a customer and probably more. But she only works 2 or 3 days a week.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243347]While on the subject of the high end g-club girls, I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found. Not saying anyone would confine themselves to this, but it would be an interesting option to have, when other options are exhausted or just want a change of scenery.[/QUOTE]Hi Tony,
Befriend a taxi driver and he will show you a whole new world. Not one I would like to live in however. Girls who primarily service Thai's provide a very basic service, that is what Thai's are looking for. A GFE is not generally on offer, nor is it deemed necessary. Sure the price is low, short time really is short time! The girls service an amazing number of clients per day. We are talking low end here, not top end oilies.
I get a taxi from the airport to Sukhumvit Soi 19 frequently. The route goes past two separate groups of street walkers waiting for mainly Thai customers, my driver always slows down to walking pace and chats to them through the open passenger window, like the rest of us, he seeks the perfect outlet. He never pays more than 400 short time and always uses the back seat! This area, he says, is quite expensive but the girls are pretty and young. He lives out at Rangsit and has been with some truly awful girls, cheap though. He can get laid for what I spend on breakfast.
We seek, I hope, performance over price, but our fragile egos demand a GFE. Thai's laugh at this and think us weak. From Patpong to Cowboy and all points between, there are some treasures to be found still, no point in worrying about prices too much, worry about maximising enjoyment!
Tuck
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1243432]Let's look into it more scientifically. (snip)
Actually, a girl I took from Suzie Wong last December (3000 baht. LT) told me her main income is from ladydrinks. And a LT makes her miss most of that income. To her that explained the difference between ST and LT prices and this confirmed my opinion that most girls do at most perhaps one ST a night and perhaps not even every night.[/QUOTE]Or, less scientifically.
Some of them hate spending any more time with a customer than the absolutely have to. And, they just want to get home to eat, and sleep with their boyfriend, or girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243347]I'd like to visit the other end of the spectrum, the girls who service the common, blue collar Thai man. For example, where do the construction workers, taxi drivers, fishermen, and garbage collectors go for p4p fun? I think many cheap charlies or hard core mongers would like to know where this kind of p4p can be found.[/QUOTE]Two places for you to check out.
1) Area south Khao San Road, roughly bounded by Ratchadamnoen Klang, Tanao, Bunsiri and Atsadang roads. Smelly and dirty area, lots of trash and homeless people around. This is the lowest of the low, many streetwalkers at various times of day or night 300-500 baht. They may ask for more when they see a white face, but if you bargain most go for the low price. Many ST hotels there don't like Farang, but one or two are OK (100 baht extra for the hotel). [url]http://g.co/maps/q3x77[/url]
2) Yaowarat / Maitri Chit traffic circle area, walking route as suggested on the map: [url]http://g.co/maps/g6b2f[/url] Slightly cleaner than the first area, but still way down low. Streetwalkers from 300-700 baht, some real lookers near the upper end of the range, but universally crappy service. Several mainland Chinese girls mixed in, service usually worse than the worst Thai.
Warning: You'll only have fun in these areas if you enjoy slums and the thrill of the search. Don't try this for service quality or convenience.
A gogo girl offered me 1000 ST before. Meaning I didn't have to negotiate. It was her asking price.
She wasn't ugly or fat, cute and late 20s, but it was the low season and it wasn't one of the more popular gogos, so she likely just needed some money.
Her sales tactic worked because I said yes and had quite a nice time with her.
Other than that, I pay 1500 ST every time. Have only had a couple young pretty snotty girls refuse it. Everyone else has accepted no problem.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1243418]Goatscrot, good post and good points!
I think the 5 or 6 times a night is a myth. Often I take a stunner out and I'm her first client of the night at 11-12 PM (on weekdays). Weekend nights get busier but even then I doubt most do more than 2 or 3 clients per night. Correct me if I am wrong on this.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. Maybe at most 3 or 4 per nite if they are really hot and start early in the evening.
When I first went to Thailand many years ago, a friend recommended massage parlors. He said the girls were cleaner than bar girls, and MP girls did fewer guys per day (or night). I went to the Atami Massage parlor in Bangkok one afternoon (Atami is no longer around). I asked the girl how many guys she had done that day, and she told me she had already done 4 or 5. So it's the opposite of what I had heard, the MP girls do way more guys than the bar girls.
By the way, I went to the Atami twice on that vacation, my first to Thailand. I had fantastic times, better than I had with bar girls. But I never went back to a Massage Parlor again. Does that make sense?
My reason is this: I can talk to the bar girls for a while and get to know them before taking them, which I can't do with A MP girl. Also, I can take the bar girl back to my hotel, which I prefer.
But I should try a MP again, since I had such a great time there.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1243390]To Tiger 888.
I was at Rainbow 4 2 days ago they want 2000 st and 3000 LT the best looking one will not budge, some will go down to 2500 LT and barfine is now 600 Bht
Bangkok is no bargin anymore but it is still much cheaper than the US and HK.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I have seen they ask 180 for beers on Cowboy. That translates into 45 HK$. I prefer to stay in Hong Kong, save the hotel money and spend 4000 Baht for the girl LT (On Sundays even for free sometimes). In HK they need to ask this kind of money because their overheads are quite high. In Bangkok that is a total ripoff and completely unreasonable.
If you don't like the prices of beers in the gogos, just buy one outside for cheap and bring it in with you. Somewhat cheap-charliesque though haha
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243770]If you don't like the prices of beers in the gogos, just buy one outside for cheap and bring it in with you. Somewhat cheap-charliesque though haha[/QUOTE]No doubt you will thus become the favourite of all the agogo-girls. They will apreciate someone who knows how to be frugal and save his money to pay their barfine, ST / LT fees, tips and taxi-money.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1243622]Your assessment seems closer to the truth than most,
Working bar is lucrative for the very few. There is a reason why the minimum quota thing is like 6 a month, most girls are just not attractive enough to warrant more than the occasional barfine.[/QUOTE]They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking gals
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243785]I see many farang holding hands with below average looking gals[/QUOTE]Take notes. These may be the kind in your budget range.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1243713]I have seen they ask 180 for beers on Cowboy. That translates into 45 HK$. I prefer to stay in Hong Kong, save the hotel money and spend 4000 Baht for the girl LT (On Sundays even for free sometimes). In HK they need to ask this kind of money because their overheads are quite high. In Bangkok that is a total ripoff and completely unreasonable.[/QUOTE]Smart man! If I would come to Thailand now for the first time, there is no way I would decide to move here.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1243779]No doubt you will thus become the favourite of all the agogo-girls. They will apreciate someone who knows how to be frugal and save his money to pay their barfine, ST / LT fees, tips and taxi-money.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the fact that the bouncers would bounce him out the door with his store bought brew before he found a seat in the bar.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1243840]Not to mention the fact that the bouncers would bounce him out the door with his store bought brew before he found a seat in the bar.[/QUOTE]Not true, the bouncers / touts want you inside the bar regardless, its not like going into a strip joint in the United States where you pay mandatory entry fee and $10 for a glass of watered down pepsi. I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer, he said no worry sir! And allowed me entry where I enjoyed another view of the Issan Shuffle without being hounded to order a drinkie
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243785]They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking gals[/QUOTE]Amazing, isn't it?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243849]Not true, the bouncers / touts want you inside the bar regardless, its not like going into a strip joint in the United States where you pay mandatory entry fee and $10 for a glass of watered down pepsi. I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer, he said no worry sir! And allowed me entry where I enjoyed another view of the Issan Shuffle without being hounded to order a drinkie[/QUOTE]Daddy07, would be 100% correct if you insisted to take the beer into the go-go! The bouncer handle it correctly as you indicated yourself " I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer " and he responded kindly " no worry sir " we all know what would have happened if you didn't.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1244016]Daddy07, would be 100% correct if you insisted to take the beer into the go-go! The bouncer handle it correctly as you indicated yourself " I told the guy hang on let me finish my beer " and he responded kindly " no worry sir " we all know what would have happened if you didn't.
LBM[/QUOTE]I didn't make myself clear, he allowed me inside the bar with my half empty beer bottle (or half full for you positive fellows). Anyways, i'm done with the subject
Hi everyone.
Any idea whether Somerset Lakepoint Sukhumvit or Tower Club at Lebua are girl friendly? We are looking for a 3 bedroom apartment because we are 4. 5 guys traveling together.
MM
Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Johnvi; 1244151]Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Most hotels have a lineup of girls for you to choose from when you check in. HAHA, sure.
My suggestion is that you contact one of the escort companies and have a girl meet you at the hotel. A limited number of massage shops may do it also. They will ask you to call when you land so the girl can be on her way.
It will cost you though.
For the future during your trip, get some girls numbers for future contact. I have ones now that either meet me at the airport, or have cars to drive me to hotel.
[QUOTE=M Squared; 1244072]Hi everyone.
Any idea whether Somerset Lakepoint Sukhumvit or Tower Club at Lebua are girl friendly? We are looking for a 3 bedroom apartment because we are 4. 5 guys traveling together.
MM[/QUOTE]Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1244070]I don't believe this. Can someone confirm this or not. And also how do girls who don't make money selling sexx survive? A bar can't just keep letting thse who don't produce take up space.[/QUOTE]The girls make money from drinks, sometimes a drink that the customer did not even order. The girls do get barfined. The girls do get sponsors. As for employees taking up space who do not produce, this is the norm in Thailand and not limited to the bars. As for sponsors, which in my personal opinion is the biggest motivator for the women to enter the trade, here is my best example that I know of first hand.
The woman is now 49. She does not and never did work bar. She runs a t-shirt shop in Pattaya. She is on her 5th sponsor since I've known her for 8 years. She's perhaps a 3 in looks and openly a conniving witch in personality. Believe what you want but life here is not the norm you might think it is.
C4T.
PS. I hope this doesn't belong in the General Thread!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1244070]I don't believe this. Can someone confirm this or not. And also how do girls who don't make money selling sexx survive? A bar can't just keep letting thse who don't produce take up space.[/QUOTE]I am sure you see that not all of the girls in the bars are lookers. Just like in any country, the bars actually need employees who work and service customers. Most of it is about P4P, but not all of it is. Some of the girls actually have jobs as servers and that is it. They are hard workers and may never get Bar fined, but have a purpose as hard working employees at the establishment. They get a salary and tips and that is it.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1244320]Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment.[/QUOTE]I wonder which half they brought with them. Top or bottom half?
[QUOTE=Johnvi; 1244151]Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I would try Giotto from Livingston Lodge.
I think he has his own thread.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1244320]Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.[/QUOTE]Not really, just denizens of Malibu.
That was a typo. Now we are 6 and looking for 2 3 bedroom apartments. How are the two hotels I mentioned? I think the Lebua is not as well located for mongering as the Somerset Sukhumvit, but better placed for gastronomic adventures. After all, one has to eat also.
Definitely bottom half BTW.
MM
Weirdest thing I've seen in a while. Sign outside a bar in a small lane next to beergarden.
"Due to unacceptable behaviour blacks will no longer be served here."
[QUOTE=Johnvi; 1244151]Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you have no other options, book the Nana Hotel, (or more upscale the Landmark or JW Marriott) and in the car park around 2am there will be a lot girls coming from work and looking for a customer. Its just a suggestion. Not sure if its right for you.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Johnvi; 1244151]Hey guys,
I am arriving at Bangkok airport Wednesday at 2am and would like to go directly to a hotel and having a girl for the night?
Is it possible? Booking a hotel with a girl waiting? Or you know a hotel where there are girls to pick up a the reception all night?
Thanks[/QUOTE]This doesn't exist in Bangkok. Can you please tell me where you have received this kind of service? Please include country, city and hotel names. I'd like to know where I can travel and have a selection of girls at the reception area of a hotel at 2am.
Thanks for replying in advance because I'm absolutely sure you will answer me with complete and comprehensive detail, won't you?
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1244320]Four-and-a-half guys in a three bedroom apartment. Are you, by any chance, hindus.[/QUOTE]Just a note about the editor here on the forum.
When you want to write "4 to 5" guys using a 'dash', the editor replaces the dash with period so it looks like 4 and one half guys.
[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1244493]This doesn't exist in Bangkok. Can you please tell me where you have received this kind of service? Please include country, city and hotel names. I'd like to know where I can travel and have a selection of girls at the reception area of a hotel at 2am.
Thanks for replying in advance because I'm absolutely sure you will answer me with complete and comprehensive detail, won't you?[/QUOTE]Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1244535]Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that intel, although at 2am, there may not be many left to choose from, as most will have been 'taken'.
[QUOTE=Lalake; 1244484]If you have no other options, book the Nana Hotel, (or more upscale the Landmark or JW Marriott) and in the car park around 2am there will be a lot girls coming from work and looking for a customer. Its just a suggestion. Not sure if its right for you.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Being in the middle of the action is the only positive point of Nana Hotel.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1244535]Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.[/QUOTE]Giotto can probably arrange to have someone wait for room service but I doubt the entire stable will stay until 2 am!
I just realized I made a flight booking to Bangkok / Pattaya including 13 to 15 April-Songkram time. From what I've heard, this is a mistake. You'll constantly get wet, run out of clothes, its very inconvenient at night and many girls go home.
Can anyone provide me with advice please about this? Should I change my plans as I am now thinking of doing, although not cheap to do so at all.
I was planning on being in Pattaya during 13 to 15, but maybe Bangkok is less wet?
Thanks
Has anyone been to that club? Is it comparable to Eden Club?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1244535]Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a bar with ladies.[/QUOTE]Ah, that's correct. I completely forgot about Livingstone's. The bar is in the hotel, but its probably not the style the OP is talking about, but it does exist, it does. But 2am is closing time.
Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.
[QUOTE=Daddy San;1244542]I can confirm that intel, although at 2am, there may not be many left to choose from, as most will have been 'taken'.[/QUOTE]Bar is closing at 1. 00 am, kind of sharp. I came back once right at that time hoping not to go back to the room empy handed (as I indulged a bit too much around) and when engtering the alley crossed the last girl leaving (thought she wasnt the last one!)
[QUOTE=Islandboy54; 1244451]I would try Giotto from Livingston Lodge.
I think he has his own thread.[/QUOTE]Landing at 2am will not set you in Sukhumvit before 3am if immigration and bagage collection is smooth and if the taxi driver is smart.
At 3 a. M. You would look for some FL patrolling Sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=Big Joe 11;1244578]Has anyone been to that club? Is it comparable to Eden Club?[/QUOTE]Different motifs, Demonia is a BDSM club with an entrance fee. Eden is a down and dirty porn sex club minus the entrance fee.
[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1244596]Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.[/QUOTE]Either he is a troll or he must be really desperate for pussy.
[QUOTE=Americanthief;1244596]Ah, that's correct. I completely forgot about Livingstone's. The bar is in the hotel, but its probably not the style the OP is talking about, but it does exist, it does. But 2am is closing time. Its also a little annoying to see the same question asked on multiple threads. The OP has 5 post and all are the same.[/QUOTE]Probably just a "newbie."
Very late night you can call Sabai Sabai Massage (open 24/7) on Soi 11 and they will send a lady over for a FS massage. I've done this when I arrived in BKK very early in the morning and was never was disappointed.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1244685]Different motifs, Demonia is a BDSM club with an entrance fee. Eden is a down and dirty porn sex club minus the entrance fee.[/QUOTE]So I have pay entry fee and pay the girl again?
[QUOTE=Big Joe 11;1244741]So I have pay entry fee and pay the girl again?[/QUOTE]900B for the first drink / entrance fee then you negotiate with the girl for her service.
[url]http://www.demoniabangkok.com/map_and_contact_fetish_bdsm_bangkok.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1243368]I want a working girl that has no issues with being nasty, that is why I hit them with "ngian" and "Pom Yaak Yet" pretty quickly, with a sheepish smile on my face. If they laugh, then I have found a good sport, if they scowl and leave, well.[/QUOTE]Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".
[QUOTE=M Squared; 1244473]Not really, just denizens of Malibu.
That was a typo. Now we are 6 and looking for 2 3 bedroom apartments. How are the two hotels I mentioned? I think the Lebua is not as well located for mongering as the Somerset Sukhumvit, but better placed for gastronomic adventures. After all, one has to eat also.
Definitely bottom half BTW.
MM[/QUOTE]Are you planning to play musical beds and swap the girls around? Orgies? Otherwise Its hard to see why you would not take just several standard rooms in same hotel. Saying you want less bedrooms than the number of people looks suspicious though, unless half of them are girls, and yet you specified girl friendly. If you are trying to save money, just take a cheaper hotel. If you make the requirement more understandable, someone may have the perfect answer for you.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1243785]They might only get the occasional barfine, but something tells me they have a few sponsors who provide them with more than just rent money, how else can they afford their new shiny iphones? I see many farang holding hands with below average looking gals[/QUOTE]Perhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1244793]Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".[/QUOTE]One of the more hypocritical things about this country is the fact that they will all use curse words in English, even wear them printed on shirts. And they have no compunction about using them OFTEN, but a foreigner uses one bad word in Thai and they freak. I find it amusing. BUT if you listen to even Hi-so Thais when they are talking in a group and drinking they use "wa" all the time with each other. Actually, they can be quite sarcastic and biting with each other!
I disagree about painting yourself as low class. You don't have to worry about your class when you are around working girls. Isn't that the point?
Of course when in a business setting I would not talk like that, but unlike you I am looking for a PSE with a good looking gal that has a smoking body and no hangups about using it. To each his own of course.
My fav story involving this happened in Patpong about 2001. We were on our yearly pilgrimage to Patpong to remind ourselves why we don't go to Patpong. A tout was saying,"Pu&why show! Pu&why smoke cigarette, Pu&why ping Pong, Pu&why this, and Pu&why that!" I replied "Mai Ow," to which he replied,"ow alallay?" to which I replied,"Yaak Yet Garee." to which he replied,"Oh, cannot say, very bad for Thailand." Here is a guy who is touting a show where gals pull and push things out of their snatches and he tells me it is bad for the country because I want to f*k a wh (*4! Really about sums it up for me!
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1244803]Perhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.[/QUOTE]Really? I see a lot of gals at the BG, Tmae, oilies, and gogos with Iphones. Almost all the lookers have a newish phone.
Agree wholeheartedly with you. Life is too short to be banging uglies.
Did you mean you have not had sex with anyone less than 10 year younger than yourself?
Personally, If I saw a girl with a Iphone or even a copy of one that is a significant sign of what she expects or more where her priority laids in life. Aside from f--king her I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
LBM
Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1244803]Perhaps my experience is not wide enough, but I have not seen many bar-girls with iphones. They can't afford it in general. They usually take cheaper varieties. If a sponsor bought it for them, that is more likelyear oldK, the very top bar girls that mostly do multiple STs per night, could afford it. Most bar girls are struggling to make enough money to support their child, mother and father, and younger sister, etc. If they can collect a few sponsors, then they will be much better shape. The majority of bar girls are probably not making big money. Some get bar fined only occasionally. Some get bar fined almost never and rely on their monthly salary (not much) and drink commissions. Some bars do carry dead-weight girls for various reasons. To boost the numbers, to help keep the good looking friend working at the same place, feel sorry for the girl, etc. They need to have some girls left over when most girls are bar fined already.
Yes its true that Farangs seem to pick some very ordinary lookers at times. These girls must have some redeeeming qualities, I guess. Probably suck up to him wonderfully and are willing to fuck a lot. Personally, I don't get that much pleasure from fucking ugly girls, even if would be available for free. It just isn't a turn on any more, when moderately pretty girls are available. I am spoiled by fucking younger good looking girls with good bodies. I haven't had sex with anyone over 10 years younger than myself for many years. I have fucked a couple of girls who used to be good looking many years back, for old times sake.
How many Farangs are willing to sponsor below average looking bar girls? I don't know that.[/QUOTE]I had many girls from Guilivers, Insomnia, Climax etc and they newest electronic stuff (including Iphone's, BB and Ipads).
In these countries you are never sure if it is a original or a copy but believe these girls have the newest of the newest stuff.
Sometimes they buy it from there earnings, sometimes it given to them by friends / customers. Who cares.
I am only interested in there behavior and if the chemistry is there I spend the rest of my time with them without using a original or a copy phone!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1244828]Personally, If I saw a girl with a Iphone or even a copy of one that is a significant sign of what she expects or more where her priority laids in life. Aside from f-king her I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
LBM[/QUOTE]I believe an iphone is 24K-32k at MBK for a grey market at MBK. IMO, pretty crazy considering this is more than a month's wages for the typical Thai worker. How long do they save for a stupid phone? LOL.
That would be like someone in the USA buying a phone for $5000 USD LOL (with things being relative to salary)
Just to point out where these Thai gals have their priorities, I met a gal off of Tagged and she was attractive, yet had bad teeth (it was not evident in her pics). Actually, I take that back, she would have been attractive if, instead of buying an unnecessary phone, she would have used the money to fix her fangs. LOL
[QUOTE=Mackin;1244932]Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.[/QUOTE]I can't believe I am reading this!
[QUOTE=Mackin;1244932]Sorry guys but I don't have a Thai dictionary or speak it well at all. If you could would you please explane what the Thai words mean. It would greatly help me learn the language and understand what I would be saying.[/QUOTE]What is the word?
LBM
Tony H,
I agree, some people don't care and have a one track mind and have no idea what the big picture might be and that might be a go thing? I guess Somewhere there are people who rather have chemistry with bad teeth women. To each his own?
Here is a good example: A orginal Nokia C7, cost something like 13, 000 baht, a copy make from China, looks like the real thing color and all cost 2500 baht still nothing to sneeze at for a working girl from Gullivers, Insomia or Climax that is a month rent for many Thais. After 2 month the thing started to fall apart piece by piece and although many of the Thais know this they still want the item. This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) I guess its like owning a fake Rolex? Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones?
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA these are the type of people who borrow what they can't afford, leverage there equity in their home to purchase, Lexus and Benz while working their job living beyond their means. I don't need to say where these people are today?
To some this doesn't belong in the Bangkok Thread but the next time you are hit with a ridiculous offer of 5, 000 for LT, from a women with a IPHONE, IPAD, or FAKE who cares this just might be one of the many reasons? Somewhere some fool has to pay for it?
LBM
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1244793]Each to their own, but I recommend for most guys, that if they must talk dirty, it will be far less offensive to do so in English,"I'm horny" or "I want to fuck". I am looking for a GFE with a very pretty girl and nice body rather than a "nasty" type, so I would not dream of saying "Pom Yaak Yet". It's just painting yourself as extremely low class. I don't recall any of my girls using the Thai swearword "Yet" at all. Its just too nasty. I had almost forgotten that this word existed, its so long since I heard it. Its quite naughty enough to use "ow gan".[/QUOTE]One of my TGs told me "yet" means fuck. So I'd often tell her "I want to YET you" and she'd always laugh hystericly. Sometimes though she'd act serious and say not to say that, it is bad. She'd also tell her friends what I said & they'd joke & laugh about it too. BTW I don't see how this is inconsistent with a GFE, don't GFs like to fuck, but what's your definition of GFE? People have different ideas of what that means.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245050]Tony H,
I agree, some people don't care and have a one track mind and have no idea what the big picture might be and that might be a go thing? I guess Somewhere there are people who rather have chemistry with bad teeth women. To each his own?
Here is a good example: A orginal Nokia C7, cost something like 13, 000 baht, a copy make from China, looks like the real thing color and all cost 2500 baht still nothing to sneeze at for a working girl from Gullivers, Insomia or Climax that is a month rent for many Thais. After 2 month the thing started to fall apart piece by piece and although many of the Thais know this they still want the item. This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) I guess its like owning a fake Rolex? Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones?
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA these are the type of people who borrow what they can't afford, leverage there equity in their home to purchase, Lexus and Benz while working their job living beyond their means. I don't need to say where these people are today?
To some this doesn't belong in the Bangkok Thread but the next time you are hit with a ridiculous offer of 5, 000 for LT, from a women with a IPHONE, IPAD, or FAKE who cares this just might be one of the many reasons? Somewhere some fool has to pay for it?
LBM[/QUOTE]So it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1245080]So it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.[/QUOTE]I think he's simply saying watch out for working girls who like to live beyond their means. They might be inclined to play you for a sucker.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245050]This says a lot about the person (For those who see the Big picture in life) Trying to be something they aren't and a personality of keeping up with the Jones
IMHO, there are people like this everywhere in the USA, I don't need to say where these people are today?[/QUOTE]You don't need to say where they are today: they're in the third world, being something they are, seeing the big picture in life. Complaining that they won't pay these 'ridiculous offers' the poor girls are asking and begrudging them cheap electronic consumer goods. The little big picture.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1245080]So it is ok for us, since we are from the West, to have Ipads and Iphones, but it is not ok for Thai working girls? They should live as paupers? I am a little confused here.[/QUOTE]How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBM
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1244796]Are you planning to play musical beds and swap the girls around? Orgies? Otherwise Its hard to see why you would not take just several standard rooms in same hotel. Saying you want less bedrooms than the number of people looks suspicious though, unless half of them are girls, and yet you specified girl friendly. If you are trying to save money, just take a cheaper hotel. If you make the requirement more understandable, someone may have the perfect answer for you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, Syz.
We like having the large living room to party in. We travel as a group to have fun for 2. 3 days and make sure there is at least one such apartment with a large living room. Musical beds is definitely on. We also get one or two other standard rooms in the same hotel depending on the number of guys on the trip. I am sorry if that was not clear.
Both, the Somerset and the Lebua have spectacular apartments great for partying in. The Somerset one in particular has a large living room with French Windows overlooking Bangkok from the 27th floor. It was a GF hotel a few years back. Wondering if that has changed now. Have not stayed at the Lebua without family so far, so I am not sure of that one. That is why I was asking.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245110]Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBM[/QUOTE]We're talking about young women in their late teens / early twenties. It doesn't matter what country they're from, women of this age generally don't make wise financial decisions. They live for the day.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1245110]Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.[/QUOTE]GD right they just want to show off. A friend of mine wanted me to bring her some Nuvo vodka. I had never heard of the stuff but a friend of hers had some once. It is in some pink bottle and she said it costs like 1000 baht. She said she would give me the money for it but I refused telling her that she didn't need that shit and she just wanted to show off for friends. Then the next thing I knew she would be calling saying she didn't have money for lunch. I'm one guy who does not mind telling them about themselves.
Sugar: ja want nuvo for my birthday.
MrE: you do not need that shit. You always want something you do not need.
Sugar: just some gift for friend. Even I travel I have bring some gift for friend.
MrE: but you always want gift pang. Everybody not rich same you.
Sugar: just you care that pang. Ok I you tell some friend do for you. So he can say pang to you what you feel. You care only your self.
MrE: I work for myself. When people work they can buy what they want.
Sugar: that thing not like 3000.
Me: I do not care if it is 1000. That is shit you do not need. You only want to show your friends.
Sugar: what shit if Thailand have I didt tell you to bring me. I can get my own.
MrE: yes you buy then next time you say you do not have money for food. That is stupid.
Sugar: ok stop talk that. Whatever you do.
MrE: only because you want to buy bullshit you do not need to show friends. You do not like me to say what is true.
Sugar: stop. It not true.
MrE: well why you need?
Sugar: just I want if you can bring it ok. I tell you buy me then I give you back money. I not tell give me free.
MrE: no. Then next time you do not have money for food. Learn to use money smart.
Sugar: I know much money for gift. But I tell buy for me I pay you back. I know what I do. I don't want talk again. I tell someone who can do for me
Mr. E,
Your conversation brings back some very bad memories for me. Now I handle situations like this differently. For those who don't know what is going on within the conversation let me break it down to you.
As the conversation progress Mr. E, press the issue about buying something she can't afford since she can't even buy food because she wants to show-off. She starts to get defensive and tries to justify it by saying she will pay him back when in fact one has to say how since she can't even save any money to buy food. This is a very common line use by Thais but when you think about it how are they going to pay you back. And if you question them as Mr. E, does they get more defensive and their tone start to rise because now they are loosing face. See, they like to ask for money but don't like to be question as to why and certainly don't like to be lecture which is basically criticizing them which isn't done in their culture. The word " Bullshit " use your smart was basically saying she has no head which translate that she is stupid.
In the end, it is like a test you buy for me, when questioned by like Mr. E, they loose face so it goes to I'll pay you back, you press on then they don't want to hear it or be lecture and they start to get heated. As she end ' I tell someone who can do for me " certainly this will be another Farang because certainly a Thai man isn't going to do it nor would they have such a conversation. Also, there is another lesson that there is a different standard for us Farang!
LBM
LittleBigMan,
Thanks for breaking it down, in giving your extended explanation as to why you feel a thai bargirl does not deserve to have something she wants for herself, a cellphone, while you go to the third world to get something you cannot afford to get in your home country, and along with it a little big feeling of power. Tremendous exhibit of self-awareness on your part.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245110]How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBM[/QUOTE]You are right on with this. I have visited some of the places these girls live. My last trip the girl took me to her "apt". She paid 500 B a month and said "expensive". The place was a total rat infested box of a shit hole and her kid was sleeping on a concrete floor. No kitchen and they shared a bathroom with others in the building.
But, she had a nice phone and said her phone bill is 3500 B a month.
(first of all, I apologize to all of you my friends as this is my first report in the forum and I am an amateur report writer)
I arrived in Bangkok today and finally got the chance to visit SOL at around 5:30 PM today. 4,5 girls sitting outside. Walked to the door, smiled and greeted the girls and they gave me their smiles back. I immediately chose the girl closest to the entrance door. Unlike the other girls, she was very young, had a really cute 8 face and an above-average 6, 7 body. Took her hands and we went into the bar. One girl watching the door from the other side opened the door for us and we went in. Unfortunately, no other customers there. Man! I am here to exhibit and have BBBJ and sex in public (I. E. In presence of more than just WGs).
I sat on the second sofa and asked her to order herself a drink of her choice. She ordered and brought herself a Cola, sat beside me, and we chatted a little. Her name was 'Pia' (if I heard it correctly) and she was really sweet and friendly. Eventually she asked me if I wanted BJ and I answered yes! I was hoping to have a public boom-boom but decided to have it on a more suitable time when there are others in the bar. She asked me to drop my pants off which I took off with my T-shirt in a blink of an eye and got fully naked. Also asked her to take all her clothes off which she almost obliged as she did not took off her short skirt but instead folded it upper around her waist. Then she started the BBBJ. Excellent technique with deepthroating and even gagging in a few occasions and I could have complete access to her beautiful assets including her nice tits, pussy, and even her anus for a little probe during the session. She even started to finger my anus gently and professionally in order to stimulate me more!
This is where I saw a scene that reminded me of a previous report regarding racism in SOL: The bartender walked past us with her hand on her face and nose like she tries to avoid something smelly. Trust me guys! I was not smelling. I was freshly showered and had applied a generous load of my "DSquared2 Wood" perfume just a few minutes before as I myself more self-conscious about sweating and body odor. And in fact. 6 feet 3 inches tall with an athletic hairless body, I am not bad-looking. Just not a western-looking guy (dark eyes, dark hair, not-so-light skin due to long-time exposure to sunlight, more Spanish / Latin type). So, the behavior immediately reminded my the report and the bell started to ring in my mind but just ignored what I saw and focused on the marvelous service I was receiving. The other fact that made me more suspicious of their racist behavior was that no other girl came in from outside in order to offer me a second mouth joining in.
Eventually, After about 20 minutes of Pia trying hard to make me cum, I finally came in her mouth. We cleaned up for a while and then I went to the bartender to pay my bills. Again, she played the hand-on-nose looking-at-me-like-something-disgusting trick which I ignored again. The cost was 800 THB (700 for BBJ + 100 for lady drink). I gave a 200 THB tip to Pia, thanked her, hugged and kissed her on the chick and went out. But this time even the girl standing beside the door guarding and watching outside put her hand on her nose as I was approaching her and said something which sounded to me like a rude complement about me as I got out of the door.
Well! That was It! I am not sure whether I have been another victim of racism at SOL or not but I will definitely go there again in the next 4 days in order to become sure. BTW, As loong as I can receive services like the one I received today from Pia and I have the chance to fuck in public, I do not care how these girls behave for now.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245110]How you got that message I have no idea? Anyone can have anything including a phone no matter where they live in the West or the East if they can truly afford it! What we are talking about particular in the East is if you are living as a pauper and you just finished spreading your legs and have cash 2500 baht and walk down Sukhumvit and run into a storefront selling phones. She see a knockoff and decides to buy it 2500 baht, now she goes back to her apartment and runs into the manager the manager reminds her that she is behind rent. She gets a call from her mother in Isaan that she needs money to feed her child and that her father is sick and dying?
We are talking about priorities and when we talk about Thais they seem to have priorities backward. Don't save, live for today like tomorrow will never come to collect and spend. I assume in general that the majority of women spreading their legs in Thailand don't make that much and renting a room for 1500 baht and 2 or more girls sharing should be buying a IPHONE, and of course it is their choice being in the West or East!
Now I know a girl that use to work at D. D. And she made a month somewhere around 75, 000/100, 000 baht, she had a 15, 000 baht phone, purchase a small house for a family and takes care of business like buying more land and saving for the day she retires. In her case along with any women P4P or not I couldn't give a flying F-k since they can afford to buy one! Thais seem to care more about showing off, comparing, and loosing face than making the common sense right decision.
I hope that helps with your confusion?
LBM[/QUOTE]It is ALL about face here. Does not matter where you live. It is about what you present. Yes, the priorities are very different from ours. Most things are different from the way we do things, but somehow they manage to survive and in some cases thrive here. It is amazing to me that it all seems to somehow work. You would think the economy would fall flat on its face, but it does not. Yes, they are different, but so are many places in the world.
There is an interdependence on family and friends that we do not have and I must admit cannot relate to. I am baffled by it almost daily. Again, my comment was meant almost tongue and cheek.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1245099]I think he's simply saying watch out for working girls who like to live beyond their means. They might be inclined to play you for a sucker.[/QUOTE]But is this any different than most people in the West? Most live way beyond their means, run up huge bills on cars, houses, and credit cards, and if they lose their jobs, they are in big trouble. Seems that is one of the causes of the turmoil we have experienced over the last 4 1/2 years!
[QUOTE=LickItOut;1245298]I was freshly showered and had applied a generous load of my "DSquared2 Wood" perfume just a few minutes before as I myself more self-conscious about sweating and body odor.[/QUOTE]Maybe you overdid the "DSquared2 Wood" perfume shower? Or the girls are more classically oriented. Try "Old Spice Classic Scent" next time. Guaranteed to work: if your grandfather didn't use it, you wouldn't exist.
[QUOTE=LickItOut;1245298]Well! That was It! I am not sure whether I have been another victim of racism at SOL or not but I will definitely go there again in the next 4 days in order to become sure. BTW, As loong as I can receive services like the one I received today from Pia and I have the chance to fuck in public, I do not care how these girls behave for now.[/QUOTE]Don't let it bug you, that's very typical. I was there last month for a pit stop. Busy with my girl in the toilet. 20 min later another girl comes in, I tell her to join and finally blew my load in her mouth. When I paid, the gal outside was sleeping on the sofa, looking bored.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245228]Mr. E,
Your conversation brings back some very bad memories for me. Now I handle situations like this differently. For those who don't know what is going on within the conversation let me break it down to you.
As the conversation progress Mr. E, press the issue about buying something she can't afford since she can't even buy food because she wants to show-off. She starts to get defensive and tries to justify it by saying she will pay him back when in fact one has to say how since she can't even save any money to buy food. This is a very common line use by Thais but when you think about it how are they going to pay you back. And if you question them as Mr. E, does they get more defensive and their tone start to rise because now they are loosing face. See, they like to ask for money but don't like to be question as to why and certainly don't like to be lecture which is basically criticizing them which isn't done in their culture. The word " Bullshit " use your smart was basically saying she has no head which translate that she is stupid.
In the end, it is like a test you buy for me, when questioned by like Mr. E, they loose face so it goes to I'll pay you back, you press on then they don't want to hear it or be lecture and they start to get heated. As she end ' I tell someone who can do for me " certainly this will be another Farang because certainly a Thai man isn't going to do it nor would they have such a conversation. Also, there is another lesson that there is a different standard for us Farang!
LBM[/QUOTE]Yes Mr E's conversation is a course on how not to get along with Thais & [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off. One day he might learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.
[quote=lickitout;1245298]the bartender walked past us with her hand on her face and nose like she tries to avoid something smelly.[/quote]probably just "sour grapes".
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1245354]Yes Mr E's conversation is a course on how not to get along with Thais & [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off. One day he might learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.[/QUOTE]It is a world of difference from playin bitches'and'hos in enternational hoodland.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1245273]You are right on with this. I have visited some of the places these girls live. My last trip the girl took me to her "apt". She paid 500 B a month and said "expensive". The place was a total rat infested box of a shit hole and her kid was sleeping on a concrete floor. No kitchen and they shared a bathroom with others in the building.
But, she had a nice phone and said her phone bill is 3500 B a month.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! That is funny because it really captures the essense and spirit of many Thai working girls and their twisted priorities.
We all should be thankful for it since we are the beneficiaries.
[QUOTE=Golfinho; 1245242]LittleBigMan,
Thanks for breaking it down, in giving your extended explanation as to why you feel a thai bargirl does not deserve to have something she wants for herself, a cellphone, while you go to the third world to get something you cannot afford to get in your home country, and along with it a little big feeling of power. Tremendous exhibit of self-awareness on your part.[/QUOTE]First of all I live here and not to get what I can't afford in the USA, by the way what the fuck are you doing on this board you hypocrite and yet you have the nerve to make such a statement while you are most likely the one doing just that. I came here with a open eye and heart and regardless of how I came to feel like this about Thais, I try very hard everyday not to allow my negative views affect every Thai I come in contact with but it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a opinion about them. That opinion doesn't mean I have power over them. But in the conversation by Mr. E, it is only natural that the one that has the money is the one with the power or in control. Do you just give or loan money without asking questions in your life? The opinion I expressed regarding the conversation I use to think it happens only to me then I found through many Expat that have live and work here for 30 years share the same opinion.
You seem to completely missed the point. I can assume when you come to Thailand to get what you can't afford where you live! I'm sure when you land in Thailand you don't suddenly become stupid and just give your money away or overpay just because she is a bargirl that wants something for herself. If that is the case then you are stupid! When it comes to money that one earns you have the power to control how it is spent and if giving your opinion and advice to someone that wants it then it is power that I control. And if someone has the nerve to ask for something that they don't need (which is in this case) then they should expect a opinion or lecture no matter which country we are talking about but in Thailand the Thais don't see it that way! Bargirls in particular are taught that there is one standard for a Farang and another for a Thai. Tell me have you ever gone to someone and ask to borrow money or to just give it to you without a explanation? In the past I have even been asked to give a opinion on something and when they didn't like the answer they got upset just like the conversation Mr. E, had with this girl. It is as simple as that.
My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me I have live it and more than once. I've learn the hard way and hopefully you learn something before it happens to you. You might have been lucky so far in your life but your comment in my opinion makes you the biggest target in my book. A big tootsie roll walking down Sukhumvit? If yo are just a visitor who come to Thailand because you can't afford the pussy in your own home and only objective is to stick you dick in a hole this conversation is too over your head so please do me a favor and don't respond or just use the ignore button you pay for!
I usually sign off with my handle as a sign of respect to who I respond to regardless of whether it is negative or positive. In this case I sure you will understand?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1245321]Maybe you overdid the "DSquared2 Wood" perfume shower? Or the girls are more classically oriented. Try "Old Spice Classic Scent" next time. Guaranteed to work: if your grandfather didn't use it, you wouldn't exist.[/QUOTE]LOL! Good advice Wolvenvacht! I'm going to try it next time I visit SOL.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1245428]? My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me.[/QUOTE]Your hahahandle :roll eyes: ok, your point: no one takes littlebigmAnS'S money. Be assured, you've made what you are perfectly clear. By the way, which translator do you use.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1245306]But is this any different than most people in the West? Most live way beyond their means, run up huge bills on cars, houses, and credit cards, and if they lose their jobs, they are in big trouble. Seems that is one of the causes of the turmoil we have experienced over the last 4 1/2 years![/QUOTE]I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. I see new cars with the red license plates on used car lots Thais unable to make the payments even before the regular plates arrives. Used motorbike shops budging with new stock so many unable to even make a payment of 2, 000 a month to keep the bike. The last few years I have watch Thais go to the ATM or to the market like Big C, Tesco, and watch their card at the check point denied. Thais are headed down the same road as the West and I just shake my head not because I feel I'm better or have power but mostly it saddens me because I know first hand how hard it is to get out. I have no problem with anyone east or west owning a IPHONE if they can afford it but the conversation is about Thais and when it comes to girls in P4P, although a generalization it is the wrong choice since so much can be done with that money instead of having idol chic chat!
A year ago I had the fortune of sitting on the bus to Bangkok with a 73 year old former Thai government official who lived a number of years in New York. In our conversation he told me how sad it is to watch his people look so tired and sad and in his opinion it was because they are striving to be like the west most likely to pay for living beyond their means? He said the old days the Thai people look so happy.
Enjoy, LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1245434]I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. (snip)[/QUOTE]Seems like almost every other new business on Silom Road these days is a bank.
Same old story, the rich get richer!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245434]I have the greatest respect for someone that lives here and yes it isn't much different here than in the West except there are more check and balance. Even with them you have what we have in the USA and Europe as you indicated in the last 4 1/2 years. In the last few years particularly in Pattaya I see it more and more as to what is happening to the Thais. The financial institutions making it easy to borrow money, buying motorbikes and even cars that most Thais can't afford. I see new cars with the red license plates on used car lots Thais unable to make the payments even before the regular plates arrives. Used motorbike shops budging with new stock so many unable to even make a payment of 2, 000 a month to keep the bike. The last few years I have watch Thais go to the ATM or to the market like Big C, Tesco, and watch their card at the check point denied. Thais are headed down the same road as the West and I just shake my head not because I feel I'm better or have power but mostly it saddens me because I know first hand how hard it is to get out. I have no problem with anyone east or west owning a IPHONE if they can afford it but the conversation is about Thais and when it comes to girls in P4P, although a generalization it is the wrong choice since so much can be done with that money instead of having idol chic chat!
A year ago I had the fortune of sitting on the bus to Bangkok with a 73 year old former Thai government official who lived a number of years in New York. In our conversation he told me how sad it is to watch his people look so tired and sad and in his opinion it was because they are striving to be like the west most likely to pay for living beyond their means? He said the old days the Thai people look so happy.
Enjoy, LBM[/QUOTE]I would say that even 12 short years ago when I moved here most Thais were "happy." The last decade has seen BKK turn into one big shopping mall, credit extended to everyone, political unrest, natural disasters, health threats, etc. All of this adds up to an unhappy population. Sad but true.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1245354]learn how to play the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook. When in Rome, etc, as they say.[/QUOTE]Do tell us more :) A mini course on the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook would be useful for most of us in a relationship with a thai (bargirl or otherwise).
Good people of the Bangkok forum.
I have been planning this trip for quite a while and the time is finally upon us. I am heading to Bangkok for 8 nights at the end of this week and would like to extract as much good times and value as possible during my stay. I have read through much of this forum on and off over the last 6 months however I am ashamed to say I am running behind on posting some questions and inviting some feedback.
I am a regular poster over in the Melbourne. Australia forum and would be happy to share insights for those interested. I will also plan on posting detailed reports of my upcoming exploits in Bangers.
I am booked to stay at the Four Points Sheraton which was decided by a few factors. Primarily as I am in a group I had to adhere to cost considerations, however based on this board and my brief email to the hotel. They are girl friendly. If anyone could offer their thoughts / experiences with Four Points I would be greatly appreciative. I also notice that the hotel is almost exactly halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana which I thought was a good location to sample delights from both.
I am really keen to put together a must do / see list with the help of anyone willing to contribute. Yes I do RTFF however I would like to collate as many ideas as possible now that I am so close to arriving. Some of the basics I would like to cover.
- Eden Club looks like a must do to me (plan on getting there early and sampling 2/3 girls minimum)
- Dr BJs is another must do in my opinion. Would love to hear more towards other establishments of similar style / setup.
- Soapy massages. Again a must do and looking for suggestions on favourites or areas of greatest number of establishments.
- I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'. I think it was in PatPong. This is something again I would like to 'sample'.
I would love to hear from anyone that can offer a 'bucket list' of must do's and see's of the mongering world in Bangers. Funding is no issue so I will not be overly driven by a budget (however I planning on paying only what is expected and reasonable!).
Also has anyone had experiences with the BDSM / kinky places? Bar Bar Bangkok and Demonica for example?
Anyway I plan on another thorough read through of the forum tomorrow and will post some more specific questions / discussions shortly. I look forward to sharing my exploits all with you shortly!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1245352]Don't let it bug you, that's very typical. I was there last month for a pit stop. Busy with my girl in the toilet. 20 min later another girl comes in, I tell her to join and finally blew my load in her mouth. When I paid, the gal outside was sleeping on the sofa, looking bored.[/QUOTE]SOL girls seem more depressed and down than the girls in other BJ bars. Probably spending 12-14 hours a day in these places, day after day, creates some type of craziness or mental illness. Especially at SOL which is really bottom of the barrel.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1245572]Especially at SOL which is really bottom of the barrel.[/QUOTE]That's funny, I've always thought of it as the creme de la creme!
But yeah, there's no doubt that working at a blowjob bar is not the best way to acquire a positive view of humanity. I've known a couple of the SoL girls for 10+ years and it always impresses me that they're still pretty nice people at heart.
[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1245566]Good people of the Bangkok forum.
. .
- I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'. I think it was in PatPong. This is something again I would like to 'sample'. .
Well, this is SOL in Patpong II. (one of my favourites by the way).
Even if it is not clinically sterile it is a great place. You can enjoy a talented BJ (BBBJ) (and even more!) in the public atmosphere in front of the bar desk. The "action" inside the small toilet booth is not at all attractive. So, stay in the open bar room and sit down on one of the two sofas.
. Also has anyone had experiences with the BDSM / kinky places? Bar Bar Bangkok and Demonica for example? . .
I have been at Bar Bar a few times but no experience with Demonia.
Bar Bar is not bad. You will enjoy hot wax play, bonding, some CBT and so on, however, it is not a 100% hardcore SM place. Nevertheless you can spend a few entertaining hours.
Please report your own impressions to the Forum when you have finished the BKK trip.
Take care.
FV
I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?
[QUOTE=Kadol;1245628]I'm a senior. 65+ Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]Are you serious? You should worry more about how to resist being dragged in, rather than chased away.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It does not matter if you are 90 and pissing and shitting in a bag.
Do you have money? That is all that matters.
You will do perfectly fine I am sure.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It is in the Thai culture to be very respectful of older people. Being old, still healthy and (relatively) well off, is a sign that you have good karma, so being with you will spiritually reflect well upon your Thai GF (even if it is only for one night).
Of course, you will have to live up to your status!
[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1245566]Eden Club looks like a must do to me (plan on getting there early and sampling 2/3 girls minimum)[/QUOTE]Personally I think two girls is optimal. One girl you can get anywhere else at better prices and the beds are somewhat smallish to add a third girl. Do not expect to receive a GFE, it is more a PSE. Unless you really boss the girls around, the proceedings run according to a well rehearsed script (which was fine by me, but YMMV).
[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1245566]I would love to hear from anyone that can offer a 'bucket list' of must do's and see's of the mongering world in Bangers. Funding is no issue so I will not be overly driven by a budget (however I planning on paying only what is expected and reasonable!).[/QUOTE]The agogos of Soi Cowboy are a must see. Suzie Wong is my favourite. I have always received a nice welcome and found someone for LT there. They are not pushy, leave you time to explore, sample and decide. And every time I came there they had full frontal nude shows. Either they paid the local BIB more tea-money or it is in a different precinct than NEP because clothes are not optional in NEP.
I'd give "After Skool" a wide berth, unless you want to receive a quick BJ in the naughty boys corner: the girls are rather pushy here and although the ladydrinks are cheaper, you will be surrounded by at least three girls who all want to have a drink at the same time.
Baccara was too busy when I visited it and the novelty of the glass ceiling wears off quickly. It seems to be favoured by the Japanese and farang are the girls' "plan B" only. Still, it is something you want to see, if only to be able to say you have been there. I never took anyone from there, but they have a nice line-up of fair-skinned, smallish and skinny girls (true to the Japanese taste) , but I rather favour the Isan-type tanned look.
Long Gun and Rawhide offer you the old style "in-your-face" pussy shows (pulling needles and flowers on a string from their pussies, blowing out candles with their pussies, smoking.) , but once you have seen that, there is little to recommend these places.
Rumour has it that some of the agogo bars are very bad at bookkeeping and overcharge you for your and your lady's drinks. Always check the tabs and complain immediately if it is not correct. It never happened to me, but some other members have reported this.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245428]First of all I live here and not to get what I can't afford in the USA, by the way what the fuck are you doing on this board you hypocrite and yet you have the nerve to make such a statement while you are most likely the one doing just that. I came here with a open eye and heart and regardless of how I came to feel like this about Thais, I try very hard everyday not to allow my negative views affect every Thai I come in contact with but it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a opinion about them. That opinion doesn't mean I have power over them. But in the conversation by Mr. E, it is only natural that the one that has the money is the one with the power or in control. Do you just give or loan money without asking questions in your life? The opinion I expressed regarding the conversation I use to think it happens only to me then I found through many Expat that have live and work here for 30 years share the same opinion.
You seem to completely missed the point. I can assume when you come to Thailand to get what you can't afford where you live! I'm sure when you land in Thailand you don't suddenly become stupid and just give your money away or overpay just because she is a bargirl that wants something for herself. If that is the case then you are stupid! When it comes to money that one earns you have the power to control how it is spent and if giving your opinion and advice to someone that wants it then it is power that I control. And if someone has the nerve to ask for something that they don't need (which is in this case) then they should expect a opinion or lecture no matter which country we are talking about but in Thailand the Thais don't see it that way! Bargirls in particular are taught that there is one standard for a Farang and another for a Thai. Tell me have you ever gone to someone and ask to borrow money or to just give it to you without a explanation? In the past I have even been asked to give a opinion on something and when they didn't like the answer they got upset just like the conversation Mr. E, had with this girl. It is as simple as that.
My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me I have live it and more than once. I've learn the hard way and hopefully you learn something before it happens to you. You might have been lucky so far in your life but your comment in my opinion makes you the biggest target in my book. A big tootsie roll walking down Sukhumvit? If yo are just a visitor who come to Thailand because you can't afford the pussy in your own home and only objective is to stick you dick in a hole this conversation is too over your head so please do me a favor and don't respond or just use the ignore button you pay for!
I usually sign off with my handle as a sign of respect to who I respond to regardless of whether it is negative or positive. In this case I sure you will understand?[/QUOTE]This is a perfect example why some of us have now chosen to limit posting on here. I would like to use this post as an example. I just need to say in this case the author is quite rude and argumentative! The op just gave his opinion and nothing else. If he feels like paying more or buying an IPHONE for a bar girl, that is his business. If he gets more millage because of it then good for him! At the end of the day there would be no bar girls, no Soi cowboy, no Nana plaza and so on if it were not for customers like us to support them. Some customers pay more and some pay less, who cares! For you to say that the customers who pay more, sponsor girls, or buy them gifts are stupid then I want you to think about one thing! How stupid do you think you would feel if members of your family, colleagues, and maybe some of your friends knew you saw bar girls and prostitutes as a hobby? Think about this before you start insulting people on the board for giving their opinion. Please as members have said in the past. Stop the madness and get back to posting some good reports! I am really tired of hearing about politics, water, flowers and how stupid you are if you pay more than the last guy or more than the next guy. It is not your money to complain about hence none of your business. You would think it is your money or something. Honestly if you can say that the customers that pay more drive the prices up then you are more naive than the guy that pays more LOL!
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1245499]Do tell us more :) A mini course on the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook would be useful for most of us in a relationship with a thai (bargirl or otherwise).[/QUOTE]I'd suggest LBM's latest post in the General Thread as an excellent example. The guy is IMO well tuned into the Thai culture.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1245637]Bargirls like senoir citizens.
1. Have more money.
2. Power is greatly diminished. Just can't get penis hard for long periods of time. Hahahahahaha.
3. Easier to scam. Hahaha.
Your elder stateman status should be no problem sir.[/QUOTE]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1245815]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if he was 80-90 but he sure look like it? He could barely walk, the girl helped him on his special made 3 wheelers and placed his walking sticks in a holder and off they went.
LBM
I am booked to stay at the Four Points Sheraton which was decided by a few factors. Primarily as I am in a group I had to adhere to cost considerations, however based on this board and my brief email to the hotel. They are girl friendly. If anyone could offer their thoughts / experiences with Four Points I would be greatly appreciative. I also notice that the hotel is almost exactly halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana which I thought was a good location to sample delights.
I spent two weeks at the Four Points and it is an excellent choice. Also close to Themae and afternoon action at the beer garden on Soi 7. BG7.
You will never be bored.
Following my previous report, I visited SOL for the second time today at around 11:00 AM. This time only 3 girls were sitting outside. Chose the one who was slim and appeared to have nice big tits under her top and got inside. Later found that the girl is 'Pla' which has been mentioned in some of the previous reports. Not with a beautiful face but has a nice slim body with well-shaped big. And as I later realized fake. Tits.
Inside, I noticed that the sofa on the far end was occupied by a guy having BBBJ type of fun with his girl. Sounds like a more exhibitionist atmosphere this time. I ordered a drink for myself and one for her and we talked a little. She asked me if it is my first time which I answered negatively telling her that I'm familiar with the rules."You want suck?" She asked and I smiled and answered positively. She brought her bag, did the initial cleaning and started the BJ. Nice technique with deep-throating, gentle ball-licking and professionally caressing and stimulating my body with her hands. After a few minutes, The guy sitting on the other sofa finished and stood up and I noticed that there was another guy sitting on that sofa whom I couldn't see when I entered. They walked to the bar area, order beers and started drinking and talking together. Now Pla and I were almost in full view of them. In 10 minutes I asked her to switch to boom-boom which she happily obliged, put a condom on my cock, and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Later we switched to missionary and suddenly another guy came in followed by two girls, watched me for a few seconds, and then went to the toilet with one of the accompanying girls. Then I decided to switch to doggie which I did and after a few minutes finished in that position. Good performance from Pla for which I thanked her and tipped her 200 THB.
Total damage 1380 THB (1000 for boom boom. 100 for lady drink. 80 fro my drink. 200 tip). This time I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more as it matched my exhibitionist taste and I didn't see any rude or racist behavior from any of the girls. I would have liked to stay a little longer but I had to go reach an appointment so I finished my drink and left the place.
THUMBS UP! I will return again!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1245815]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude[/QUOTE]It was some years ago and you just do not see women quite that hot so often now.
He was 85 if he was a day and she was SMOKIN! In fact come to think of it he had two women taking care of him. The second one was just an ordinary beauty.
Thank You all for the suggestions so far. Within 24 hours I will be landing and getting straight into it. Thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. Also pretty keen to see what the Beer Gardens are like. I will report thoroughly on all experiences.
I am afraid I have two quick follow up questions. I am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to RTFF on these.
- everyone is suggesting SOL for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? Is SOL an abbreviation?
- my travel partners are also keen to visit some 'standard' type night clubs. My hope is that all will still offer a range of free lancers regardless if the place is legit or not. Think the nightclub scene from Bangkok Dangerous. Do such 'mega club' type places exist and would anyone recommend checking something like this out?
Not everyone in the group is an overt monger so I would like to head to clubs that have a good atmosphere and the old lady up for a LT if I don't have the time to get to a GoGo etc.
Also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? Is there places you are still guaranteed to find a LT / ST past this time? Or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
Looking forward to getting into it. Thanks again all.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]Hi Kadol,
If you are a 'nice guy' and treat the girls nicely then your age will NOT matter at all.
You will be welcomed with 'open arms' (and LEGS!)
Just ENJOY them all (I do.)
Hotman
[quote=poker broker; 1245889]thank you all for the suggestions so far. within 24 hours i will be landing and getting straight into it. thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. also pretty keen to see what the beer gardens are like. i will report thoroughly on all experiences.
i am afraid i have two quick follow up questions. i am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to rtff on these.
- everyone is suggesting sol for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? is sol an abbreviation?
- also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? is there places you are still guaranteed to find a lt / st past this time? or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
looking forward to getting into it. thanks again all.[/quote]
sol = star of light. i would recommend dr bj's or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for the beginner. they are located quite close to each other on sukhimvit while sol is in patpong. sol is an acquired taste and may ruin your impression of bj bars unless you are into a certain kind of 'atmosphere'. how that i think about it how the fuck did it get its name?
kinda. once the regular bar in sukhumvit close down then everything appear to migrates bar stalls around suk soi 4-7 (nana bts) with the girls continuing todrink / eat.
another option is to ask one of the tuk tuk drivers to take you somewhere but this is obviously going to be subject to commission / higher prices but if you're only in town for a short time it could be worthwhile given your time contraints. however it is not something i would ever do or have done.
alternatively you could get the ph number of girls you meet in bars and hook up with them after you have finished partying for the night.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1245935]It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.[/QUOTE]If you are still young in your hard and be able to show your confidence, you will have no problem. Only my point of view.
[QUOTE=LickItOut; 1245885]Following my previous report, I visited SOL for the second time today at around 11:00 AM. This time only 3 girls were sitting outside. Chose the one who was slim and appeared to have nice big tits under her top and got inside. Later found that the girl is 'Pla' which has been mentioned in some of the previous reports. Not with a beautiful face but has a nice slim body with well-shaped big. And as I later realized fake. Tits.
Inside, I noticed that the sofa on the far end was occupied by a guy having BBBJ type of fun with his girl. Sounds like a more exhibitionist atmosphere this time. I ordered a drink for myself and one for her and we talked a little. She asked me if it is my first time which I answered negatively telling her that I'm familiar with the rules."You want suck?" She asked and I smiled and answered positively. She brought her bag, did the initial cleaning and started the BJ. Nice technique with deep-throating, gentle ball-licking and professionally caressing and stimulating my body with her hands. After a few minutes, The guy sitting on the other sofa finished and stood up and I noticed that there was another guy sitting on that sofa whom I couldn't see when I entered. They walked to the bar area, order beers and started drinking and talking together. Now Pla and I were almost in full view of them. In 10 minutes I asked her to switch to boom-boom which she happily obliged, put a condom on my cock, and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Later we switched to missionary and suddenly another guy came in followed by two girls, watched me for a few seconds, and then went to the toilet with one of the accompanying girls. Then I decided to switch to doggie which I did and after a few minutes finished in that position. Good performance from Pla for which I thanked her and tipped her 200 THB.
Total damage 1380 THB (1000 for boom boom. 100 for lady drink. 80 fro my drink. 200 tip). This time I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more as it matched my exhibitionist taste and I didn't see any rude or racist behavior from any of the girls. I would have liked to stay a little longer but I had to go reach an appointment so I finished my drink and left the place.
THUMBS UP! I will return again![/QUOTE]Just got to love BKK. Every city in the world should have a bar like SOL!
[QUOTE=Livelifeguy; 1241142]Hello, gentlemen,
6. Another outcall from mango. Everyone's favourite cherry. Pity she's not there anymore. That session was the highlight of my last trip. No limitations full night. I gave her amy's hoops which she left in my room.
Cheers guys[/QUOTE]What is mango and how do you arrange an outcall?
TIA for helping a newbie.
[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1245889]- my travel partners are also keen to visit some 'standard' type night clubs. My hope is that all will still offer a range of free lancers regardless if the place is legit or not. Think the nightclub scene from Bangkok Dangerous. Do such 'mega club' type places exist and would anyone recommend checking something like this out?
Not everyone in the group is an overt monger so I would like to head to clubs that have a good atmosphere and the old lady up for a LT if I don't have the time to get to a GoGo etc.
Also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? Is there places you are still guaranteed to find a LT / ST past this time? Or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?[/QUOTE]Plenty of options. As far as the Bangkok Dangerous club, where the high class ass resides, they're called G-Clubs and you'll end up paying quite a bit of money with the likelihood of not getting sex. If you just want to enjoy hanging around hot Thai girls, go for it. St Moritz is in the immediate vicinity on Soi 11, just do a google / youtube search for more info.
Past 2 AM I would check out Insomnia, cm2, Climax, scratchdog, boss, or bossy Again, you can do some of your own research. Or you could just grab a beer and walk down lower sukhumvit and look for a street walker. Before 2 AM, check out RCA, Route 66 is great, it's been known as mostly a Thai only place, but last time I was there, there were many foreigners. Maybe 40-50%
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245821]I'm not sure if he was 80-90 but he sure look like it? He could barely walk, the girl helped him on his special made 3 wheelers and placed his walking sticks in a holder and off they went.
LBM[/QUOTE]Was she standing up on the back of the 3 wheeler?
[QUOTE=GPa69; 1246014]What is mango and how do you arrange an outcall?
TIA for helping a newbie.[/QUOTE]I've never done it, but I'm guessing typing Mango Bangkok in google then calling them would work. Shocking, I know.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1246109]Was she standing up on the back of the 3 wheeler?[/QUOTE]It's a Honda click that has been motified in the front to have two wheels, kind of a reverse tricycle. The orginal seat is intact so you still can ride two. After she help him out of the club and on to the bike she hop on the back and they left.
LBM
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1246158]I've never done it, but I'm guessing typing Mango Bangkok in google then calling them would work. Shocking, I know.[/QUOTE]A truly innovative suggestion CO, thanks.
For any other inexperienced lurkers that may want to know, mango is a bar in the Nana Plaza called The Big Mango Bar.
I didn't call as I am not looking to retain the service (I was just trying to understand the lingo) , but I am guessing an outcall involves having a BG sent to your room for a ST or LT.
I don't know how you make a selection as I didn't see any pictures or descriptions of individual girls on the website.
I suppose the selection process would be explained when you call. I hope it isn't just pot luck. (Take whatever you get.)
I'm gratified by how helpful and friendly posters here are to newcomers.
But I think just saying "Big Mango Bar in Nano Plaza. Call to have a BG sent to your hotel." would have saved Chill Out some typing and possibly been helpful to more than just me.
Just saying.
[QUOTE=GPa69; 1246173]A truly innovative suggestion CO, thanks.
For any other inexperienced lurkers that may want to know, mango is a bar in the Nana Plaza called The Big Mango Bar.
I didn't call as I am not looking to retain the service (I was just trying to understand the lingo) , but I am guessing an outcall involves having a BG sent to your room for a ST or LT.
I don't know how you make a selection as I didn't see any pictures or descriptions of individual girls on the website.
I suppose the selection process would be explained when you call. I hope it isn't just pot luck. (Take whatever you get.)
I'm gratified by how helpful and friendly posters here are to newcomers.
But I think just saying "Big Mango Bar in Nano Plaza. Call to have a BG sent to your hotel." would have saved Chill Out some typing and possibly been helpful to more than just me.
Just saying.[/QUOTE]Google "mango massage Bangkok", and you will have the address of the website of the mango massage that everyone is talking abut on this thread. You will have all necressary info on the website, inc pictures of the girls. When you have made your choice, go back to the thread and look for reports corresponding on those girls.
Hope that this changes your perception of how helpful, or not, are people on this forum. And do not forget to reciprocate in telling us your expereinces.
Another visit to SOL today at around 12:00 PM. Entered Patpong II from Silom and reached the area where I can check the girls. Just one girl outside and she was the door-watcher who did the you-stinky-get-out-of-here game on me. Decided not to take her so continued my steps to Surawong, wasted about 5 minutes of time and got back into Patpong II hoping to find some other girls to choose. This time I went from the left side of Patpong II (entering from Surawong) walking past Pinocchio's, a pool bar and some bars on my right directly towards SOL. And Yesss! Two other girls sitting outside this time. Chosen the girl near the entrance (face so so, kinda chubby body) and we went in.
Upon entering I saw the door-watcher girl again to whom I smiled and greeted nicely and got a semi-smile back. Unfortunately, no other customers there so I decided to take the far-end sofa. The girl asked me if I wanted any drinks which I answered negatively but asked her to order a drink for herself which she gladly did. She the sat by my side and we had a small chat as usual with questions like "What's your name?" and "You're in holiday?" from her and of course me asking her name, which she answered "Nan", and her age, which she answered 28. During our chat she started rubbing my cock and after a while asked "You wan' sucking now?" which I answered "Yes please!" and the show started immediately.
Opening ceremony including she taking her stuff and cleaning my cock done and she went to the BBBJ part. Oh lord! This one was also a pro BJ queen. Nice technique, slow moves, deepthroating and efficient use of tongue was on the menu. A few minutes passed and I asked her to take all her clothes off and did the same myself. She got fully naked, climbed up the sofa on her knees on my right side and continued the job from this angle while I was touching, rubbing, and fingering her pussy and tickling her anus which she started to respond to by her mild body moves after a minute or two. Then another girl came in which was the barmaid on my second visit. She was fat but had a very cute face. Seeing her in regular clothes yesterday, I thought she was not on the menu but this time as she came in with BJ girl clothes on, I wondered whether she was also on the menu or not. She had some work to do in the bar which she did but I noticed that she is trying to make some eye contact with me, so gave her the chance and smiled to her and got a friendly smile back with a proposal of her joining my party with Nan as the second lady. I thought for a while and said "Why not! Come on!"."Yooohooo!" She screamed cheerfully and ran to take her stuff.
In a blink of an eye, she was sitting on the ground having my cock in her mouth with Nan changing position and now, DFKing and caressing me. Oh man! Great moments! The second girl was doing a fantastic job, taking and keeping my cock deeply in her throat using her tongue on my balls at the same time and believe me guys she was doing it with so much passion that made me more and more horny. After a few minutes in this situation, I couldn't keep myself anymore and blew the load in her mouth which she licked clean and then spitted on a wipe. Whoooooooooh! I was done! Upon cleaning and putting my clothes on, she told me that she was a little disappointed because she also wanted to take her top off and get more dirty which I smiled and answered her "OK! We'll do it next time baby!" and I was really able to see the joy and passion in her eyes as she was hearing my answer "Yes! Next time my top off".
OK! Time for the bill! Total damage 1900 THB (700*2 for BJ. 100 for lady drink. 200*2 tip) and I was on my way out. I asked the name of the second girl and she answered something like "Pie" or "Pine" (I'm not sure). At the door, she spanked my butt and said "Next time my top off!" and we laughed together.
Nice experience today! Unfortunately, not an exhibitionist atmosphere this time but taking two BJ queens at the same time and seeing the amount of passion from the second girl was things I won't forget. BTW, My return flight is tomorrow evening. Seems that I will have a chance for another visit tomorrow morning (around 10:00 AM) which I might do as a goodbye-party for SOL until my next trip to Bangkok in the not-so-near future. Any suggestions for what to experiment in SOL tomorrow?
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1246280]Google "mango massage Bangkok", and you will have the address of the website of the mango massage that everyone is talking abut on this thread. You will have all necressary info on the website, inc pictures of the girls. When you have made your choice, go back to the thread and look for reports corresponding on those girls.
Hope that this changes your perception of how helpful, or not, are people on this forum. And do not forget to reciprocate in telling us your expereinces.[/QUOTE]Many thanks, Dreams. And thank you for correcting my post for the sake of other newbies who may be monitoring this forum.
I probably won't use the outcall service, but after checking out the girls on the website I may well head to Mango for a massage.
This is a great example of why information from this forum is superior to what you find on the internet.
Personal experience trumps propoganda every time.
And yes, this shows that posters here can be quite friendly and helpful.
I will definately report on my first mongering trip as best I can. (Might be too excited to remember names and places, but I will try.)
Thanks again,
GPa
I've had a good time Las Vegas gogo. 3rd floor Nana Plaza, a couple of times recently. Some real cuties, and pleasant shows.
It doesn't have throngs of girls, but in my opinion it's worth having a look.
Certain members who recently PM'ed me need to clear their inboxes if they expect a reply.
[QUOTE=Poker Broker]I recall reading some time back a place (Go Go I think) that offers pretty overt services in the bar itself & toilets. Was referred to as kinda 'filthy and in your face'.[/QUOTE]There are several places like this. One is Afterskool on Soi Cowboy. Check out the "naughty boy corner" for an on-premises romp.
Bunky
Sorry if I was rude Gpa69. It is considered a good idea to spend a few hours reading the threads here several tens of pages back though, which will answer many of the basic questions you may have.
You can check the thread "Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!" for more info on massage places, Mango included.
Was not impressed with the lineup at Mangos! However it was during the day, and I think the hot ones come rolling in during the evening. Which makes sense, the ugly ones have to work hard for their money, not many guys pick them. The hot ones can be lazy and sleep in late
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1246335]I've had a good time Las Vegas gogo. 3rd floor Nana Plaza, a couple of times recently. Some real cuties, and pleasant shows.
It doesn't have throngs of girls, but in my opinion it's worth having a look.
Certain members who recently PM'ed me need to clear their inboxes if they expect a reply.[/QUOTE]I agree. A few beauties in there and not usually very crowded. SPANKY's is always packed but it's worth it to squeeze in to find a seat and watch the wild fun. You can eeven pick up one of the spanking sticks and slap the girls on stage. BFd a girl from there and she was really good too. The owner makes sure the girls take care of his customers.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1246525]Sorry if I was rude Gpa69. It is considered a good idea to spend a few hours reading the threads here several tens of pages back though, which will answer many of the basic questions you may have.
You can check the thread "Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!" for more info on massage places, Mango included.[/QUOTE]No Problem Chill Out.
And I'm sorry for the sarcasm. I was just trying to advocate for newbies a little.
I have been RTFF on this thread and the Pattaya thread back to the first of the year.
But it wasn't clear from the post that mango is a massage parlor and I was trying to understand the reference.
I want to be as prepared as I can for my first mongering experience so I don't end up spinning my wheels the whole time and have nothing worthwhile to report here. (And I would just a soon avoid getting scammed or ripped off if possible.)
If I ever become a Senior Member (and I sincerely hope to) I will do what I can to help newcomers get oriented and have the best time possible.
In the meantime Happy Mongering.
It's all good.
GPa
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]I have travelled to BKK at least 12 times over the last decade. I have always been impressed and moved at times to see Thai girls with the elderly and in-firmed, handicapped people, people of all walks of life.
Whenever I see these pairs I closely watch the girls to see if they are embarrassed or even insincere and I quite honestly think that they are NOT. They appear to be loyal dedicated and content, these are idioms I seldom see here in the West.
The Thai culture in my observatios is the least judgemental in the world, this is the #1 reason why I love Thailand and I love Thailand.
There are of course exceptions to all generalizations but I will tell you that you will be treated better there for less cost than anywhere in the world. Do not allow yourself to be betrayed or trust to much in the beginning, a hungry dog may choose to steal a steak simply because they are HUNGRY.
If you treat a Thai woman with respect and genuine caring and affection and this is easy I assure you, you will have that returned in spades. And the cost of a day with these ladies is less than 2 hours of a western 187lb nurse or Nursing assistant.
I have met all manners of amazing women there some were employed full time in the sex trade some not, I only recall 1 stupid Thai girl out of hundreds (not that I bedded them all).
Go enjoy, respect and live it will be the best thing you ever did in your entire live, smile with your face and your heart!
I fing miss Thailand.
Hi,
I will in BKK in a few days and wold like to know if EDEN CLUB still exists (the owner is a french guy named Marc).
Thanks for the answers.
In case of negative answers, is there a similar spot to visit?
I agree, thai girls are great. Some people here have a rather negative view of them (they are all scammers etc) , not true at all in my experience.
Pinaypounder, somehow you still seem to favor Pinays even more?
[QUOTE=Prizren; 1246627]Hi,
I will in BKK in a few days and wold like to know if EDEN CLUB still exists (the owner is a french guy named Marc).
Thanks for the answers.
In case of negative answers, is there a similar spot to visit?[/QUOTE]It was still there last December when I visited it for a nice romp with two of its ladies. Thorough PSE: threesome, BBBJ, CIM, lesbian interlude, dildo-play, many positions and finally a second pop in doggy and then it was time to take the plane home. I slept well on the plane.
I think Thai girls on average, are better looking than Pinay girls. But the ones that are hot. Hot damn! Having been in both places, I felt that Pinays are more responsive to westerners. Obviously, them being able to speak English is a hugh bonus. If it wasn't such a shithole, I'd go there more often. I also think Pinays are a bit less mercenary than their Thai sisters.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1246540]Was not impressed with the lineup at Mangos! However it was during the day, and I think the hot ones come rolling in during the evening. Which makes sense, the ugly ones have to work hard for their money, not many guys pick them. The hot ones can be lazy and sleep in late[/QUOTE]Not really. Mango has rules and girls are not permitted to just turn up when they feel like it.
The best lookers may well be busy or on outside bookings.
There are not many pretty girls doing PSE. Cat is probably the cutest at Mango in my opinion although there may be newer girls I didn't meet.
Know this is a strange question on the BKK board, but I heard that some parlors have a selection of high end Chinese girls.
Anyone know where? Every now and again a change of scenery is good and no time to travel these days.
Thanks.
MM
yesterday was my departure date so after waking up, packing my bags, and checking out from the hotel, i decided to pay the last visit during my trip to sol. around 10:30 am and i was there. checked the girls from far, only two girls out one of which was nan that was mentioned in my last report but i could not see the other girl's face and body as she sat on a chair having her back on me. so, i proceeded to the end of patpong ii, made a u turn, and walked towards sol. as i was approaching the destination i could see more of the girl that i couldn't see. omg! can i trust my eyes? she was beauuuuutiful 10/10 (of course imho but i bet most of you do agree with me totally seeing her in person) and seemed to have a nice body of 9/10 as well. definitely something that is even hard to find in the best go-go bars."am i dreaming?" i said to myself,"a girl of this standard in sol? a bj bar?". and the answer was yes! she was sitting there wearing standard sol blowjob-queen uniform talking with her cellphone.
well! still not believing what i saw, i reached the place. nan recognized and smiled to me and i smiled to her and greeted her politely. the other girl was still talking on cellphone so i asked nan whether she is available to choose and she answer "yes!" and told the girl that she has a client. she shaked her head meaning that she understood nan so nan stood up and lead me in, sat me on the sofa in the far end, and asked me to make myself comfortable and order a drink if i wanted while waiting for her. i thanked her and sat on the sofa waiting for the girl of my dreams. in a few mintues, she came in and walked towards me. man! great body and she was tall (in thai standard) as well. and again, what a cute asian face. gorgeous eyes reflecting senses of both delusion and innocence! small lips! wow! i'm not really able to describe it.
she didn't stop by me in order to sit and chat a little with me. instead she took stuff and asked me to undo my pants in order to start the work. i was suprised that she seemed to be very shy as she avoided making eye contact with me by any means and seemed to be a little embarrassed and upset as well. also, it seemed that she couldn't speak any english as every word she spoke while i was there was in thai.
eventually, i was out of my clothes and having done the opening ceremony, she started the bbbj part. average technique comparing to other sol girls but i was already having a hard-on just by watching this cutie. the only thing that was making me a little disappointed was the feeling that she was a bit uncomfortable doing it. few minutes passed and i asked her to take off her top. nice natural tits that were really enjoyable playing with. playing with her tits made me hornier to the point that i really wanted to take all her clothes off, suck those nice nipples, and convert my session to a hot fs. was she also available for fs? i decided to probe her a little so went for a hand down her panties. unfortunately, she moved her body in a way to deny me the access request which made me realize that she might not be available for this type of action. sad conclusion!
suddenly in the middle of our session, the bell rang and nan came in with a gentleman in his late-50 or early-60. he sat on the other sofa and after a while went to use the toilet spotting me and my girl on his way in and a few minutes later on his way out. nan took him a glass of water and he sat there with no action at all. interesting! meanwhile, my girl increased her bj speed and after a while she seemed tired. so, she proceeded with a hand-job (much more talented here) which i didn't stand up against because i didn't want her to be uncomfortable anymore. also, it gave me the chance to enjoy watching her face for a while. i was really in a mood for kissing her but thinking about the fact that she might not like it or be into it i just left the things be and after another few minutes i came and she took it all in her mouth and after ensuring that nothing was left in me finished and spitted it into a wipe.
cleaning and wearing my clothes and i was ready to pay and leave while she was drinking and spitting mouthwash in the sink. nan gave me my 700 thb bill which i paid. then went to the girl to give her the 200 thb tip while she was still busy with washing her mouth. so nan called her to pay attention to me and there i found out that her name was something like 'gon'. she immediately came to me this time with a nice smile that i was finally able to see. i gave her the tip and thanked her which she thanked back, said goodbye to her and to nan and left sol.
only if it was not my departure date: i would have barfined her for lt, made a reservation in a luxury hotel, and treated and pampered her like a real lady for two or three days. oh man! i wish i could see her once again which i'm not sure that will happen in the future as i'm sure i won't have any other trips to bangkok in the next 2 years. am i fallen in love with her? of course not but i admit that it could really happen if i had gone with her for lt and things gone well enough. in the plane back home i spent all my time thinking about her and the sometimes laughed loudly imagining you guys in rotflmao state while reading the story of a guy falling in love with his sol bj queen in isg. that's all ok with me so go on and have a good time friends! .
all in all, i had a great time during my four visits to sol and i will definitely return in my (hopefully) next trips in the future. i also recommend all of you who haven't experienced sol yet to take time and give yourself the chance. and in the case, you have more information about the girl i was talking about i would be glad to hear it. also, if you have chance to see her, tell her that the guy who visited her in friday morning is almost fallen in love with her.
[QUOTE=Mighty Mark; 1246815]Know this is a strange question on the BKK board, but I heard that some parlors have a selection of high end Chinese girls.
Anyone know where? Every now and again a change of scenery is good and no time to travel these days.
Thanks.
MM[/QUOTE]You're better taking a flight to Macau and visiting a sauna there. There are high end joints, Long Beach, Love Boat, The Lord, and Victoria. I think The Lord is the most high end fwiw. Posiedon too but they charge a 1K farang surcharge. (of course if you're Asian then it doesn't matter)
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1246798]Not really. Mango has rules and girls are not permitted to just turn up when they feel like it.
The best lookers may well be busy or on outside bookings.
There are not many pretty girls doing PSE. Cat is probably the cutest at Mango in my opinion although there may be newer girls I didn't meet.[/QUOTE]Went to Mango this morning. Yes, Cat is the cutest and I booked her for this reason. She is what one would call a nice pretty cute next door girl. .
Much too young and slim for my taste, but certainly fine by most other people's standards. But I fell for her pretty face and smile. But, yes, also, this was and definitively not PSE by any means.
Service was good though, but not outstanding. Assisted shower was just that, no more. Body body was good but short. BBBJ was excellent, and DATY. 69 etc was on the menu, even a bit of ball licking and AR. No DFK (I ususally don't wish DFKing MP girls, but when you are the first customer of the day.) and more disappointingly, no anal. Anyway, fucking her very tiny pussy felt very good. Then a bit of lame massage that I asked her to stop, a few minutes of cuddling and that was it.
WIR? Yes, but will probably try finding a slightly more curvy, fleshy and older provider.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1246832]Went to Mango this morning. Yes, Cat is the cutest and I booked her for this reason. She is what one would call a nice pretty cute next door girl. .
Much too young and slim for my taste, but certainly fine by most other people's standards. But I fell for her pretty face and smile. But, yes, also, this was and definitively not PSE by any means.
Service was good though, but not outstanding. Assisted shower was just that, no more. Body body was good but short. BBBJ was excellent, and DATY. 69 etc was on the menu, even a bit of ball licking and AR. No DFK (I ususally don't wish DFKing MP girls, but when you are the first customer of the day.) and more disappointingly, no anal. Anyway, fucking her very tiny pussy felt very good. Then a bit of lame massage that I asked her to stop, a few minutes of cuddling and that was it.
WIR? Yes, but will probably try finding a slightly more curvy, fleshy and older provider.[/QUOTE]I want to delete this post, since I posted it by mistake on the wrong thread, but don't know how to do it. Have copy-pasted it on the relevant MP thread.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1246837]I want to delete this post, since I posted it by mistake on the wrong thread, but don't know how to do it. Have copy-pasted it on the relevant MP thread.[/QUOTE]You usually have apr 1hr to edit or delete your own messages.
(after posting it)
After that it is engraved here for life.
[QUOTE=LickItOut;1246816]Checked the girls from far, only two girls out one of which was Nan that was mentioned in my last report but I could not see the other girl's face and body as she sat on a chair having her back on me.Nan recognized and smiled to me and I smiled to her and greeted her politely.[/QUOTE]If Nan is the thin spinner body, she's a trooper. Spent 40+ minutes with her my last visit, including great BBBJ / FS.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1246819]You're better taking a flight to Macau and visiting a sauna there. There are high end joints, Long Beach, Love Boat, The Lord, and Victoria. I think The Lord is the most high end fwiw. Posiedon too but they charge a 1K farang surcharge. (of course if you're Asian then it doesn't matter)[/QUOTE]Tony, Tony. Didn't you know that Long Beach was once called "Honolulu Love Boat"? You write as though they were two different places. Are you writing from your own experiences? I'll will guess you don't know where Victoria is. Poseidon used to be 500 surcharge. Has it changed recently? Okay Folks we are even in the wrong thread.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1246908]Tony, Tony. Didn't you know that Long Beach was once called "Honolulu Love Boat"? You write as though they were two different places. Are you writing from your own experiences? I'll will guess you don't know where Victoria is. Poseidon used to be 500 surcharge. Has it changed recently? Okay Folks we are even in the wrong thread.[/QUOTE]You're right my mistake, the other one was copa cobana and malibu, they're all pretty much all the same. And yes, Posiedon has a 1k farang surcharge now, mr syzgies
Nan is not the girl with thin spinner body. Nan, as mentioned in my "Star of Light Yet Another Visit" report, was the average face kinda chubby body girl but she was very sweet and friendly with good manners and of course great BJ technique and wild kisses. The other girl was (hopefully if I heard the right words) called "Gon" and IMHO and my taste she was really beautiful.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1246885]If Nan is the thin spinner body, she's a trooper. Spent 40+ minutes with her my last visit, including great BBBJ / FS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1246956]You're right my mistake, the other one was copa cobana and malibu, they're all pretty much all the same. And yes, Posiedon has a 1k farang surcharge now, mr syzgies[/QUOTE]Farangs would be well advised to use Copa Cabana rather than Poseidon. Better lineup too.
I wonder if there's an Indian or negro surcharge at these places?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1247074]Its obvious some places don't want farang.
Is it the girls who don't want them? Many light skin girls tell me they just don't care for farangs. What the hell do you guys ask for. Hahahahaha. Besides the asshole. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]Actually Harold, I think it is the Asian customers that have a problem, not the girls. They are intimidated by the fact that most Farangs are bigger, stronger, better looking, and more well endowed! Not to mention, most are also concerned with pleasing the gal as well.
Hi Guys.
I am soon off to LOS again. It has been quite a while since last time. Having received great guidance by the experts here on my previous trip, I will try again:
I remember, I went to a fish-bowl-like place close to Beergarten (great place) last time where you could sit and observe the girls before choosing a number. Great!
Unfortunately, one was not allowed to spank the little monkey while observing. Is there a chance for finding a place that allows that in BKK (or even Pat)?
Another thing on my list is to visit the largest fish-bowl-place in BKK. What / where would that be?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247135]Actually Harold, I think it is the Asian customers that have a problem, not the girls. They are intimidated by the fact that most Farangs are bigger, stronger, better looking, and more well endowed! Not to mention, most are also concerned with pleasing the gal as well.[/QUOTE]Hahahah! Now that is wishful thinking at the extreme.
Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?
Thai girls have to get used to farangs before liking them and some never do. Also, it's no secret that Asians tend to pay them more without complaint and generally make less demands on them.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1247173]Hahahah! Now that is wishful thinking at the extreme.
Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?[/QUOTE]No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1247194]No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.[/QUOTE]And when it comes to insufferable arrogant assholes, farangs as a group, take the prize.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1247194]No. It is probably because the farang is going to be very demanding as per the services they are seeking and work the shit out of the girl, whereas the other guy will be more of a BFE for her.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given. For Farang there is no "face" at issue, just a good time.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1247203]And when it comes to insufferable arrogant assholes, farangs as a group, take the prize.[/QUOTE]? Really? I would say we are far more polite than many of our Asian brethren. I was in Tmae one night with a friend who speaks fluent Japanese. The incredibly offensive things they were saying about the girls was infuriating. Several were equating them to rats.
The arrogance prize certainly goes to the Asian guys!
Thank you all for the reports, I read back more than a few pages and still have more to read but this is what I got thus far:
Freelance Clubs- After 2Am.
Insomnia.
CM2.
Climaxx.
Scratch Dog.
I have seen most the favorable reviews for insomnia, let me know your thoughts.
BJ Bars
Dr BJs-is a must and I will try to visit.
I will be staying at the Renaissance near Chitlom BTS and fellow members have said that it is in fact girl friendly, the security guards are more interested in checking bags and items then who you bring into the hotel. Let me know if that is different.
I am not as familiar with Bangkok as I have spent most of my time in Pattaya, so any additional pointers will be appreciated. I will stay one night and a day in BKK, then off to Pattaya late evening the next day.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1247246]? Really? I would say we are far more polite than many of our Asian brethren. I was in Tmae one night with a friend who speaks fluent Japanese. The incredibly offensive things they were saying about the girls was infuriating. Several were equating them to rats.
The arrogance prize certainly goes to the Asian guys![/QUOTE]Peace guys Peace!
Since when did we start discriminating like the Thais and Thai Girls? (we all know they are racists)
We are all here to enjoy our time with the lovely ladies, in return for our money.
So I see this argument as absolutely unwarranted for.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1247173]Why do you think some massage parlors have farang surcharges? Is it because we are better looking and more concerned with pleasing the girls?.[/QUOTE]My assumption is the reason is the same everywhere. Tourists and farangs have different perception of real (local) costs and providers will think they will not check these too.
WG and MP know that their prices are very cheap compared to the equivalent services back our home. So they add the farang surcharge: added value for them and a sort of small acceptable overcharge for the farang, in their POV.
This applies to many services, not only sexual.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1247290]My assumption is the reason is the same everywhere. Tourists and farangs have different perception of real (local) costs and providers will think they will not check these too.
WG and MP know that their prices are very cheap compared to the equivalent services back our home. So they add the farang surcharge: added value for them and a sort of small acceptable overcharge for the farang, in their POV.
This applies to many services, not only sexual.[/QUOTE]Well, if they really knew the state of our Farang economies, they would be charging us less!
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1247281]Peace guys Peace!
Since when did we start discriminating like the Thais and Thai Girls? (we all know they are racists)
We are all here to enjoy our time with the lovely ladies, in return for our money.
So I see this argument as absolutely unwarranted for.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is any anger here, just spirited discussion. But, yes you are correct, let's get back to talking about fun.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247314]Well, if they really knew the state of our Farang economies, they would be charging us less![/QUOTE]You are pretty much right, ah ah ah
But if we can afford to travel all the way, pay plane fares, hotel rooms, what's the difference, in their eyes, in some +10/20€ a day (and that in some cases means a +50% overcharge)?
We overdiscussed the price issues, so no need to get again into it, but true the debate often turns around 2-3 €!
[QUOTE=Andy Dane; 1247157]Hi Guys.
I remember, I went to a fish-bowl-like place close to Beergarten (great place) last time where you could sit and observe the girls before choosing a number. Great!
Unfortunately, one was not allowed to spank the little monkey while observing. Is there a chance for finding a place that allows that in BKK (or even Pat)?[/QUOTE]LOL at spanking the monkey in front of fishbowls. Did you actually try to spank your monkey right in front of papasan / mamasan? Hahahahaahaha. I think they would take that as a serious "loss of face". I guess you could offer them a considerable amount of baht if that's really your thing. Although, I doubt the other patrons would enjoy your behavior lol
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1247361]You are pretty much right, ah ah ah
But if we can afford to travel all the way, pay plane fares, hotel rooms, what's the difference, in their eyes, in some +10/20€ a day (and that in some cases means a +50% overcharge)?
We overdiscussed the price issues, so no need to get again into it, but true the debate often turns around 2-3 €![/QUOTE]Actually I don't. I live here in LOS. Have for 12 years!
With more then 31 visits to Bangkok in the log since 2001, and when I start thinking I know every trick in the bar girls book, I did get a surprise after a long time.
Visited Shark Last Friday, after a few beers, and scanning the available talent, zeroed in on a pretty lady who seem to be a little withdrawn with not many smiles, signaled her to join, after a few drinks and with the help of the waitress, It was known that her name is Wan, English was almost zero, from BuriRam, has a 4 year old kid and she is 22, after 2 LDs she was feeling quite comfortable with me a was smiling much more then before, agreed for a ST 2000, comes back in Jeans a very elegant looking long top,
Walking out of Shark towards little Italy for a pizza, I see the mamasa who I know for quite sometime on soi cowboy first at Dejavu then Sahara now standing outside RIO, she calls out my name and asks me to come in for a drink, so ask wan if its ok if we can have a drink (all sign language and my 10 word thai vocabulary) she gives a big smile and a nod and we have a beer in Rio and the mamasa has a chat with her and translates a few things, she is new to Bangkok, one month in the bar etc. I tell the mamasa at Rio that I have agreed for a ST with wan, but to ask her if it would be OK to have a pizza on our way to the hotel or she needs to go to the hotel and then go back to where ever she wants to. It was OK with Wan to have pizza first and by the time we finished our pizza and reached Maduzi, it was almost 2 hours since we were out of Shark.
She like the room, spend some time in that lovely Jacuzzi the Hotel Maduzi has, a very nice BBBJ, and some quality sex, after the deed I shower come back to bed, she goes to the bath room showers and is back sitting on the edge still in her towel, I reach to the bedside table where I have put some money, take out 2000 and hand it over to her, she takes it give a very sad / passionate / sensual stare (difficult to forget that stare) puts the money on the bed side table, throws here towel to the chair, slide under the comforter, cuddle and sleeps, wake at around noon, good round two, go out for lunch to terminal 21, I do some small window shopping for myself and ask her to pick a few things for herself which she doesn't, just smiles. Back to the room, around 5pm, a short nap with BBBJCIM finish, freshen up, Now I was just wondering if I have to go back to mamasa at Rio and help translate what was going on and how much money Wan needed, then I thought let me just go with the flow, we walk all the way from Asok to Nana, hit a few bars at Nana, then the nana disco then a very late night dinner at the nana hotel, back by taxi to the hotel, round one for the night and one more round around midday, lunch at the same place in terminal21 as she liked the food there, back to the hotel and I start packing, as I had a flight at 8:30 evening and had to leave the hotel by 5, then sign language communication, and she understands I'm leaving now, all the smiles disappear in a second and she is just sitting on the chair and watching me pack, then a few hugs, I take the 2000 still lying on the table, to be fair to the lady add 6000 more and hand it to the lady, she just nods and doesn't want to accept it. So at the first chance I slip it into here purse when she is in the bathroom putting on her makeup.
We are in the small lobby of the hotel waiting for taxi, for the first time with all tears in her eyes she pulls out a small book from her purse, writes something in Thai hands it over to me with still tears rolling down her eyes. A big kiss and we have the taxi there, say good bye and I'm off to the airport.
I'm yet to understand what really happened. Can someone kindly translate the attached note for me please.
Finally after planning for 3 months and after having asked a few dozen questions on this board, here is how my trip went.
Landed at airport around 7. 30 PM and headed for sukhumvit 23 in a taxi. 500 bahths. Stayed at Admiral Premier Hotel. Excellent hotel for mongering. Headed out around 10 PM for Thermae bar to cheked out freelancers. The bar had over 50 girls, some outside the door. Over 90% customers were Japanese and were the only ones who the girls were interested in. It is one of th emost ridicuolous mongering scene I have come across with plently of fake smiles and silly nodding of heads. Spoke to two girls who asked for 2000 for ST but since there was hardly any stunner there, decided to take some rest and slept alone. Thermae in my opinion is a waste of time as most girls are interested in japanese only plus it is silly in my opinion to stare at girls and wait fo rthem to smile to start the conversation.
Next day headed to Mango for massage. My friend instantly fell for bebe, a little chubby. 20 something with nice natural rack while I picked up who I thought was Por but was Bo infact. Of course Bo's service is simply 10/10, she is a wizard of her craft. Just perfect 10/10 massage and sex. Silicones though. Friend was meanwhile floored by bebe and had a 10/10 session with her and was very pleased to be in Bangkok.
In the evening we headed to Baccara in SC around 8. 30. Things were looking awesome, lots of dancing girls on stage. Most were below 22 I think, many fair complexioned but several from Isaan too. Way too loud though. Had to buy drinks pretty early but there was no LD pressure or mamasan drink crap. Dance upstairs by topless girls wearing no panties ontransparent floor is something one has to check at least once. Almost all girls upstaiers had bolt ons. Spotted at least 4/5 very good looking young girls downstairs and beckoned one of them to come over but somehow in the confusion, the girl next to her landed on our lap. Lady drink blah blah and we decided to walk out as it was rather cumbersome to pick a girl, negotitate and move on for boom boom.
Went to Thermae and quality was no so great. About 60 girls but only 1 or 2 good looking girls who seemed indifferent. The whole scene was begining to look ridiculous and meanwhile we were becoming a bit frustrated as it was past 11. 30 PM and we needed some shut eye as well. Walked away after having decided to never come back to Thermae again and were stopped by a feelancer on sukhumvit road. She came staright to the point, I want to go with you. 1000 be each and we were off to races. Out of of this world session with her, she was able to handle both of us simulataneously very well and even DP was on on the menu. OMG. Was a bit full bodies, small be cup with long nipples. Had great time with her before sending her away after 2 AM. Said she is semi pro, works in a construction company as accountant during the day and does little extra work before going home in the night. Looks like we were rather very lucky.
Next day over to Snow white and while friend picked up Bonus, a very slim girl with a cup from a line up of only 4 girls, I went to mango for bebe. Bebe was indeed awesome in the bed and let me lick her for close to 40 miniutes. OMFG. Session was 9/10, needs a bit of improvement in oral section but otherwise sex was 10/10. Girls lik eher are a staple at Mango but rare outside. Was a mind blowing session and gor the good news for from friend that his session with Bonus was a 2 pop, cim, full hardcore sex. 10/10 as well. Marvellous.
In the evening we went to Rajah hotel coffee bar around 7. 30. It was a rather sad looking place with about 10-12 russians and uzbekis. 2/3 were good looking. Same silly smiling at each other blah blah which we were not very nterested in so headed out to Nana. Did not like Nana plaza a bit as it is too crowded, too old, too congested, too shabby and over run by lady boys. I don't want to look at anyone if I more than half are lady boys. Also somehow soemthig told me that this complex can't be safe in case of fire or earthquake and headed back to SC on foot from Nana. Plenty of freelancers on the way, some lady boys but mostly not so good looking girls. We were attracted to one girl standing near bus stop. 30ish, fair skin, a bit full body, be cups. Briefest discussion, quoted 600 be for ST! (I think she was floored by our looks and wanted to have sex with her at any cost. LOL) Who could have said no to menage a trois for 1200 baht so wasted no time in reaching hotel and once again, boy o boy, what an awesome session it was, well make that 2 sessions in 4 hours. She di not want to go home and kept on talking to us telling lot about herself, her disspointments in life, her sob story, her dreams for future etc. Was very loud during sex and we actually had to turn on TV fearing the knock from other rooms. She really loved being licked in downtown region and had more fun with us than we had with her! Left her number with with us before leaving and requested us to call her next night as well.
Third and last day: Decided to do some sight seeing and shopping. Headed to Grace hotel around 3 PM. Few uzbekis and central stans girls, not too nice looking though. The good thing was they were aggressive and waved or said hellow as sson as we would walk by, unlike that BS Thermae bar where girls just smile or look un-interested. Did not like anyone in particular so decided to take it easy and call the freelancer from previous night. She arrived at 7 PM and was with us till 1 AM. I wanted to get some sleep for our 7 AM flight but again she just wanted one more session after first and of course more licking please! Oh God I luv Bangkok. Once again we had very good sessions and time with her, promised to see her next year hopefully and wished her all the best in her quest for a non Thai boy friend for life. Hwr perfect skin, solid appetite for sex and sucking and honest heart to heart discussion will stay in our memory for rest of our lives. Not to mention what a bargain it was for mere 600 bahts per person. Of course we paid her a lot more.
So this is it friends. Thanks a lot for helping me out with your thoughtful replies. I certainly could not have done it without your help.
Lets continue to stick to the main topic that we are here for and avoid those nonsense, childish, uncivilized personal jabs that some on this Thailand forum are particularly active in. If we seek love let it be reflected in our words and then hopefully, plenty of love is what will be found in our activities as well.
Amen.
Just a small foot note that Rainbow4 is now offcially not allowing Indians and Arabs in the bar. I guess it goes for other dark skinned persons. The usual BS of members only w.
As thrown at me but I asked the guard gently if it is because of Indian factor and he politely said Yes, Sorry. No problemo for me but just a warning to others.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Harold444;1247374]Very interesting! A bit looney in my humble opinion. THis pleasing of the prostitute must be explored-you do you know the girls see us as customers![/QUOTE]I was fucking a SW in Chiang Mai the other night. She kept asking,"Why you not finish?" I gave my usual answer that I was waiting for her to finish first. She said,"No. I never finish with customer."
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247444]Actually I don't. I live here in LOS. Have for 12 years![/QUOTE]For all the impending geriatrics living full-time in Thailand when they can't afford to get what they want in their homeland or in other, better places is an alternative for a lot of people who haven't had the success to be able to do so. Nuthin wrong with that.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247243]Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given.[/QUOTE]I wonder if that's true. If you think about it, Japanese porn is way over the top compared to western porn. And as you mentioned yourself, they often think of the girls in a bad way (worse than most westerners who usually just feel sorry for them). Are you sure they are then so mild-mannered in bed?
[QUOTE=Carrib;1247280]Freelance Clubs- After 2Am.[/QUOTE]Add Bossy and Spicy to your list.
[QUOTE=Carrib;1247280]I will be staying at the Renaissance near Chitlom BTS and fellow members have said that it is in fact girl friendly, the security guards are more interested in checking bags and items then who you bring into the hotel. Let me know if that is different.[/QUOTE]I confirm it is girl friendly, and a great hotel to boot.
[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1245566]Good people of the Bangkok forum.
- Soapy massages. Again a must do and looking for suggestions on favourites or areas of greatest number of establishments.[/QUOTE]I have found Emmanuelle to be one of the best. It is not as expensive as some, but consistently good quality. Although sometimes, there isn't a great variety to choose from.
MM
[QUOTE=Harold444;1247374]Very interesting! A bit looney in my humble opinion. THis pleasing of the prostitute must be explored-you do you know the girls see us as customers![/QUOTE]Dude, of course I know that. Now, when I do a job, I get paid, but that does not mean I cannot enjoy my work. If the gal has fun, you are more likely to as well. I have found over the years that fewer and fewer gals want to enjoy the act, in that case it becomes all about me, which is why I prefer the oilies. Those gals that don't enjoy what they do need to find another line of work!
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1247517]I wonder if that's true. If you think about it, Japanese porn is way over the top compared to western porn. And as you mentioned yourself, they often think of the girls in a bad way (worse than most westerners who usually just feel sorry for them). Are you sure they are then so mild-mannered in bed?[/QUOTE]Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.
I've been to Thailand 7 times. I've been to Japan 5 times. I like Thailand because I can seduce non working girls. I can't seduce normal Japanese girls anymore. The P4P girls in Thailand are good, but the P4P girls in Japan are better. They're sexier, younger with no kids, glassy soft skin and know the customer's expectations.
And to compare costs, ST with a Japanese soapy girl isn't much more than short time with a Thai go-go girl. Its the other expenditures that make Japan difficult.
[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1247599]I've been to Thailand 7 times. I've been to Japan 5 times. I like Thailand because I can seduce non working girls. I can't seduce normal Japanese girls anymore. The P4P girls in Thailand are good, but the P4P girls in Japan are better. They're sexier, younger with no kids, glassy soft skin and know the customer's expectations.
And to compare costs, ST with a Japanese soapy girl isn't much more than short time with a Thai go-go girl. Its the other expenditures that make Japan difficult.[/QUOTE]Why can't you seduce normal Japanese girls anymore? I hear they're easy.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247243]Yes, the Farang expects a certain level of service. And many Asian customers will take whatever they are given. For Farang there is no "face" at issue, just a good time.[/QUOTE]Excuse me. Some old nob expect a level of service?
Compare the girls Asians take vs what a farang takes and make that comment again. I called you a dumb racist but that's too much a compliment. You're just an asshole.
[QUOTE=Rodmanj;1247584]Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.[/QUOTE]What is it about the Japanese service that makes you say it is "much higher" standard? I find that Thai ladies I've met are more likely to be submissive than Canadian sex workers. They are also more likely to provide BB services, but I've heard the Japanese are sticklers for condom sex. Payment after the fact is another important point for me as regards Siam SWs, and I'd expect almost everything related to sex tourism in Japan is more expensive than LOS. OTOH I find that there is nothing that beats the porn and lovely slim white ladies of northern Asia.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1247616]Excuse me. Some old nob expect a level of service?
Compare the girls Asians take vs what a farang takes and make that comment again. I called you a dumb racist but that's too much a compliment. You're just an asshole.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, we are not into flaming or name calling on this board. You have no idea who I am, what my age is, or what my tastes or for that matter what my race is. I simply said that the service expectations of Farangs and Asians tend to be different. As other posters have stated, for better or worse Farangs tend to complain when they consider bad service and Asians tend to move on and try again, and yes, the concept of face enters into it. And, the better looking a gal is the less she needs to provide service wise to make a living as she can be a complete starfish and make it on looks alone. Please read the posts before you fly off the handle.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1247656]. As other posters have stated, for better or worse Farangs tend to complain when they consider bad service and Asians tend to move on and try again, and yes, the concept of face enters into it.[/QUOTE]Do you read Asian forums or blogs similar to ISG? Otherwise, how would you know whether or not they do or do not complain?
ISG is primarily for 'westerners', those who are comfortable with the English language. If you ever read some of the SE Asian sites [names won't be mention as Jackson would not like it], you'd see 'asians' complain as much as any other males do. If you read the japanese blogs, trust me, they expect nothing short of top service.
Your comments are no different than the 3/3/3 japanese jokes that pop up every so often.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1247674]Do you read Asian forums or blogs similar to ISG? Otherwise, how would you know whether or not they do or do not complain?
ISG is primarily for 'westerners', those who are comfortable with the English language. If you ever read some of the SE Asian sites [names won't be mention as Jackson would not like it], you'd see 'asians' complain as much as any other males do. If you read the japanese blogs, trust me, they expect nothing short of top service.
Your comments are no different than the 3/3/3 japanese jokes that pop up every so often.[/QUOTE]Yes, everyone complains on the boards, and I have read many of the others, but Farangs are far more likely to complain to the girl about bad service and perhaps not pay on the agreed amount as there is no loss of "face" in losing your temper. Again, I am not placing judgement, nor casting aspersions, just stating facts. Most of my information does not come from the "boards." It comes from the experience of living and doing business in Asia for the past 12 years.
How are my comments no different from the 3/3/3? In fact, how do you know that I am not part Asian?
[QUOTE=Rodmanj;1247584]Having lived in Japan a long while the standard of Japanese service is much higher than the US and Thailand! I often wished I could the level of service I normally get in Japan in Thailand. Japan is a service based society, and not stickly about the dollar\yen.[/QUOTE]Have concluded similar. Agree with you. In Thailand, Indonesia and wherever the Japanese have set up outposts, you can find girls they've 'trained' and who deliver the top quality service. The Nippons, however, somewhat try to control access to these clubs and girls. Gross farang career military enlistee type.
Good luck getting in.
While I have to agree with on the cost of Thailand is less expensive than Japan, it is Japan, and Tokyo is one of the most expensive cities to live in.
The averange encounter with a working girl in Japan ranges from about 6000 Baht to 8000 Baht for about one hour. So I do agree with you that Thailand is a cheaper
Option, but what you are getting in Japan is the same level service all the time. There is no guess work in it. You want to kiss? They are going to kiss, you want to 69, they are going to 69, you want to shower together. Etc. With Thai girls I find you almost have to have them fill out a resume to find out what they will or will not when you get them back to your room. At least when you have a Japanese girl come to your hotel you already what she is going to do, it's stated on the web site and addintional options if you so desire. I am not debating which place is better, I have fun in both. I just find that about 1 in 10 Thai girls preform like 9 of 10 Japanese girls.
I disagree with Rodmanjs assertion. I live in Japan as well and have tried many different options here in Osaka. You are not guaranteed sex in the normal sense of penetration. In Thailand you are almost 100% going to get that. Japan is more expensive and hit and miss. The RLDs here are your best bet but it's usually 4000 baht for 15 mins for one of the main street hot girls. You will get laid properly IF they accept a non Japanese. This is half the problem in japan. Non Japanese are not widely accepted.
Back to BKK issues. How is Baccara of late? I didn't get there last year. Instead went to Suzie Wongs. How much is the usual bar fine? (just trying to get back to the topic of BKK)
Why do you think all the Japanese are coming to Thailand? More girls, less hassle, better service, more GFE, cheaper prices for girls, food, hotels, transportation, etc. They are not even close for mongering.
PS: Watch some Japan porn sometime. They lay there starfish and screech the whole time. Non performers.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1247760]PS: Watch some Japan porn sometime. They lay there starfish and screech the whole time. Non performers.[/QUOTE]
No disrespect intended but this is hilarious!. That's how you reached the conclusion? By watching porn - have you ever had Japanese pussy?
LOL
[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1247768]No disrespect intended but this is hilarious. That's how you reached the conclusion? By watching porn. Have you ever had Japanese pussy?
LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1247760]Why do you think all the Japanese are coming to Thailand? More girls, less hassle, better service, more GFE, cheaper prices for girls, food, hotels, transportation, etc. They are not even close for mongering.[/QUOTE]Because the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Because variety is the spice of life.
But cheaper? Not a reason except for the lowlifes with lack of coin. You are projecting your own situation 'pus.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1247800]Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.[/QUOTE]Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.
Why are you all so obsessed with Japan on the BKK forum? Frustrated to see "small dick" japanese guys taking your hot babes away? Well, get used to it, it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
As it happens, I was in BKK last week and in Tokyo now. Love both countries, and the different opportunities they have to offer. No need to make silly comparisons. Better report what happens in one in the releant thread and move on to the next thread. BTW, there are far less comments about BKK on the Tokyo thread than the reverse.
And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1247877]Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.[/QUOTE]I started going to Japan with the US Navy in 1978, and was stationed there for 3 years in the early 2000s. I echo your thoughts on every facet. Some people don't have a fucking clue what they are talking about! But yet, they tend to voice their silly ass comparisons, even though they are clueless; go figure.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1247800]Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.[/QUOTE]If I had judged Thai women based on services received from Thai girls in the West, for instance FRA RDL, I would never have been to Thailand.
Managed to get a 24h break on my way to Tokyo.
Landed at 8 am, and was out in 20 min thanks to fast track Thai Airways roYal silk channel.
Checked in at LL at 9, and went for a nap to recover from a short 4h night flight.
Then went to Tulip, hoping to find Pond, as per Fon tok recommendation. Sadly, she would not be availbale for the next 2-3 hours, so I had to abandon her and moved on. Then to Mango, where I took Cat. Report about this good, if not outstanging, expereince already posted.
Then time to recover, and I always do, a fuly legit tradutional Thai massage place, CEFLE, in the alley in front of LL. Super 2 hours massage by highly skilled and trained masseuse for 400 Bht.
The I walked down the Suk to the Biergarden, for a meal. Watched the Premiership surrounded by a few highly alcohol fuelled farangs. To my surpirse, there were a few hot babes there, but I was not yet ready.
Then went to NEP. Nothing much, I never liked it, so moved on to Cow boy, with the view, to do a bit of bar hooping. Went first into Rawhide, and was surprised to see all girls dancing fully naked. But none really stunning. However, a cute short one kept on smiling at me and came to sit with me. Just chated, did not ask for anyithng.
Just as explanation here: I am 60 + and my policy when picking girls is always to let them choose me rather that the opposite. So, I am sure that the grils does not dislike going with old men. I call this strategy@passive hunting@, I just smile to whichever girl I fancy, and if she is interested enough, she will let me know in a way or another. This works well for me, be it in an FKK, or in any club setting.
Some girls, even young, like old men, and those are the one I try finding. Once in Tijuana, at the HK club, for those who know, there were around 100 dancing gils and as many males. Suddenly one of the hottest yound babe spots me and rushes to me, and give me a fantastic, unsolicited lap dance, even before we exchanged a word. Anyway, I took her@arriba@and had one the best sex of my life. I was about to ask her what really made her choose me in stead of any of those many good looking youn gringos. But she gave me the answer herself before I could even ask by saying that her other job is being a nurse, specialised in. Geriatry! Not a joke! My good luck, she loved taking care of old people, and my God, she did, to the point that I parted from my usual srategy which is to never repeat, and went again with her the following day.
ANyway, back to BKK, and Rawhide bar. Since my little Thai woman and I clicked, and seemed very haslle-free, I decided not to waste time, BF her and took her LT. We did not talk money before she was about to leave. And she never took her cell phone out, not swittched on theTV. Bless her.
And for those (reference to older posts) who thinks that WGs can't be religious, she warned me that she would have to go by 8 am, because she had to go to church by 9 am.
We had the usual GFE night and morning sessions, with a good sleep in between next to a curvy, cuddly, natural real woman. Just what the doctor ordered. (I am my own physician.)
Breakfast and taxi to the airport.
All together. 24h well spent, for a total, taxi, entertainment, girls, meals and hotel of around 7500 bth, withut trying to save.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1247877]And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.[/QUOTE]You want to take away all the fun. :D
Very often the stereotype fits perfectly.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1247800]Yes, several times here in the US and in Hong Kong. They do the same crap for some reason. Same as the porn. It is the Starfish and the screeching. It is really annoying to me. I guess Japan man like it? Sorry to say this, but I think they are use to Japan man with small penis doing that quick, short hump time after time and they screech. Thai girls are much superior in my experience, especially in the GFE.
Now if you just like the looks of Japan girl, I get it. But for me, the service is totally not on par with Thai girl.
Again, that is why I believe you see Japan man drowling at the Gogo's. They know they will be in for a better time.[/QUOTE]Just as somebody pointed out that thai girls in european RLD are not eprfomring thebest service, it might be that japanese girls in US and HKG are on the same strategy.
They are chosen for being exotic (first) , more than for service (second). Just as the stunners often do not deliver too since they are appealing to customers for the look and they have enough customers, whilst a less beautifyl one has to win the customer and deliver a good service.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1247893]I am 60 +[/QUOTE]From one 60+ to another, nice report.
Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.
Could anyone translate this note from a shark lady.
[QUOTE=Nekama;1247949]I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc.[/QUOTE]Search chinatown
[QUOTE=Member #2453;1247960]Could anyone translate this note from a shark lady.[/QUOTE]It says.
"Mama told me to come home this evening. I come back to Bangkok later in the month and I will wait for you."
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1247877]Sick and tired to read posts about Japan from guys who have never set foot on the island. So you know all about japanese women because you watch some socalled Japan porn in HK! Pathetic. As an anecdote, the hottest ever sex romp I have had in my all life, and I am 60 +, and quite a number on the board, has been with a japanese woman. I draw no general conclusions from this, but just a fact.
Why are you all so obsessed with Japan on the BKK forum? Frustrated to see "small dick" japanese guys taking your hot babes away? Well, get used to it, it is likely to get worse before it gets better.
As it happens, I was in BKK last week and in Tokyo now. Love both countries, and the different opportunities they have to offer. No need to make silly comparisons. Better report what happens in one in the releant thread and move on to the next thread. BTW, there are far less comments about BKK on the Tokyo thread than the reverse.
And last, can we leave aside all those useless ethnic stereotypes, about bad Asians, smelly Indians, Nigerians crooks, arrogant farangs an the like? I have met arrogant, smelly, nasty people from all races.[/QUOTE]Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?
I am wrong. Japan women are the greatest in the world. Much better than Thai lady. The mongering is plentiful and full GFE. It truly sounds like a wonderful place. Everyone should go there and have a great time. Maybe even go into the Japan forum and try to convince all the Japan men coming to Thailand that this is the case. Good luck. Thanks for the info.
I will be looking forward to reading the Tokyo forum about the great time you had.
[QUOTE=Nekama; 1247949]Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Matri Chit Road; 5 minutes from the central railway station. Lots of prostitutes at the end of the street towards the roundabout. Late afternoon.
[QUOTE=Nekama; 1247949]Hi Gents,
Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Ok dirt cheap. Not ashamed to have encounters in parks.
Try looking up the Pattaya reports. Way back. An look for a place know as the woods I think it is just what you are looking for.
One member hear had an encounter there and she just take a bottle of water! All you can have for about 200 Thai Bart about $6. 50 aud
Have fun an look it up.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1248037]Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?[/QUOTE]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1248056]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.[/QUOTE]OK, Finally, that is what I am looking for. A man who is not so serious and has a sense of humor! I love it. HAHA. Thanks
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1247915]Just as somebody pointed out that thai girls in european RLD are not eprfomring thebest service, it might be that japanese girls in US and HKG are on the same strategy.
They are chosen for being exotic (first) , more than for service (second). Just as the stunners often do not deliver too since they are appealing to customers for the look and they have enough customers, whilst a less beautifyl one has to win the customer and deliver a good service.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA
I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1248072]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]Check out Humaniplex, ******** and MyRedbook. They are 3 popular sites here in California. The girls are not like that at all. Most are very attractive and young. They usually charge from $160-$240 an hour. These girls are brought in from places like Thailand, China and yes, Japan on short work Visas. Most cannot speak much English.
I have always had great experiences with the Thais and Chinese girls.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1248072]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.
So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]In Belgium the standard price for Thai massage is 80 EUR / hr and that includes a body-to-body massage and happy ending either a HJ or BBBJ and some do CIM too for the same price. FS is rarely offered though.
[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.[/QUOTE]Very well stated. Stereotypes develop for a reason, but we need to remember that there are always exceptions to the rule.
[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
[snip]
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.[/QUOTE]You should really post more.
Excellent report, and I enjoyed your 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1247946]From one 60+ to another, nice report.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Maybe we should have our own thread, something like "old farts" or so? Just joking.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1248037]Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?
I am wrong. Japan women are the greatest in the world. Much better than Thai lady. The mongering is plentiful and full GFE. It truly sounds like a wonderful place. Everyone should go there and have a great time. Maybe even go into the Japan forum and try to convince all the Japan men coming to Thailand that this is the case. Good luck. Thanks for the info.
I will be looking forward to reading the Tokyo forum about the great time you had.[/QUOTE]If you had read my post (s) , you would have noticed that I never suggested superiority of any group over nother. I actually like both thai and japanese (and other women). I prefectly accept and understand that many guys like most Thai women, and was naively thinking that the same would apply to my personal taste for japanse women. It is absurd to suggest that one ethnic group of women are superioir to another, (except for those sharing racist ideology). But not you, of course.
Why is this paranoid comment about Japan coming in to this thread, I don't know.
Be my guest and visit the Japan threads, but, please, do not post there, and start comparisons with God knows who. We, in the Japan thread, are a nice group of people interested in sharing info on japan, so don't come and pollute it, thanks in advance. And continue enjoying Thailand, in spite of the invasion of small yellow men taking away your hottes babes
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1248056]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.[/QUOTE]No no, I am not just a Nigerain crook, I am quarter arrogant Frenchman, quarter smelly Indian, quarter small dick Jap, and quarter nigerian.
Now the one million dollar question: what is the size of my (crooked) penis?
[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.
I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".
In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.
When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.
One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!
So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.
What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.
So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.
Just my 2 cents.
Happy life.[/QUOTE]Very well written and very true.
Problem with stereotypes is not what they say, but what some wicked people use them for.
I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1248072]So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]We all know that and the mongerer price police tries to discourage this practice of overpaying (by the local standards) as anyhow it is a fraction of the home bill.
I don't agree with price police as at the end it is my money and my entertainment.
In addition, the influence that (ISG) price police can have on the broader range of mongerers in BKK (or elsewhere) is unsignificant and their effect is irrelevant.
Given the thousands of mongerers in Thailand (but this apply to each country, of course) and the few hundreds being here, one can see that the influence. Even if successful at a rate of 80% is really worthless to the price standards (set by the mongerers)
Having said that it is always good to know what the others are paying.
A) to set yourself a cost of a decent limit and an orientation idea.
Be) pay more but in awareness you are doing so, if you decided to do so, aiming also to a top service.
See) try to stay within the local reasonable pricing, aware that a bit more is the "farang surcharge" they try to grab and if a few bucks make them happy. Better than hard negotiations ending nowhere (even if it is also proved soem girls accept the mongerer price and then are still happy troopers)
The) not appear as a cheap charlie as that is not always the best recipe for quality.
As someone said, if you take holidays and want to have fun. Don't be a cheap charlie just for the sake of collecting many girls on the low price level and exhibit that as a trophee.
Whilst overpayer are said to be destroying the market also cheap charlies are damaging the market as that becomes then the standrd the girls think we farang are.
So there wil lbe a battle between those who pay the less money and those who deliver the lowest service.
Nothing to tell home about.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1248233]Thanks.
Maybe we should have our own thread, something like "old farts" or so? Just joking.[/QUOTE]Hmmmmm, not a bad idea!
I would read & post, IF, as an 'Old Fart' myself, I could remember that it was there!
Now where did I put my reading glasses?
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1248382]The farangs go for the ulgy girls and the japs the pretty ones.[/QUOTE]I think it is more the truth to say that farang and Japanese have different ideas about beauty. I am quite pleased I do not have to compete with them for my Isan-dolls. I will gladly leave all the white and skinny screaming starfish for them.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1248382]This inferiority thing farangs have towards japs is real and unexplainable here.[/QUOTE]There is an explanation. The relative cost for mongering, etc. Is much higher in Japan [as is true in Korea and lesser extent Taiwan] so they will flock over to LOS and other countries with deeper pockets. What they would drop per night drinking would alone be enough for most of us on ISG to pay for a couple of girls on LT basis. This 'drives' the price up for non Japanese, thus the 'inferiority'.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1248382]In rainbow 4 they mix together and all seems well. The farangs go for the ulgy girls and the japs the pretty ones.[/QUOTE]LOL. All the girls know the japanese will pay more.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1248254]I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.[/QUOTE]This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.
Quite a while ago I went to Angel massage and had Ann. It was great because she rarely got picked by whities. And maybe due to mainly serving Japanese but she was tight! Nice big fake tits too!
Yes, just as when I'm looking to purchase a new or used car, I will try to find a fair price range that I should be paying for a certain car model, all dependent on make, model, year, and condition. In fact the ISG can be thought of as the Kelly Blue Book for working girls LOL.
also on a side note, it was nice to see that idiot on Soi 71 blow off both his legs, poetic justice almost.
be safe out there
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1248346]We all know that and the mongerer price police tries to discourage this practice of overpaying (by the local standards) as anyhow it is a fraction of the home bill.
I don't agree with price police as at the end it is my money and my entertainment.
In addition, the influence that (ISG) price police can have on the broader range of mongerers in BKK (or elsewhere) is unsignificant and their effect is irrelevant.
Given the thousands of mongerers in Thailand (but this apply to each country, of course) and the few hundreds being here, one can see that the influence. Even if successful at a rate of 80% is really worthless to the price standards (set by the mongerers)
Having said that it is always good to know what the others are paying.
A) to set yourself a cost of a decent limit and an orientation idea.
Be) pay more but in awareness you are doing so, if you decided to do so, aiming also to a top service.
See) try to stay within the local reasonable pricing, aware that a bit more is the "farang surcharge" they try to grab and if a few bucks make them happy. Better than hard negotiations ending nowhere (even if it is also proved soem girls accept the mongerer price and then are still happy troopers)
The) not appear as a cheap charlie as that is not always the best recipe for quality.
As someone said, if you take holidays and want to have fun. Don't be a cheap charlie just for the sake of collecting many girls on the low price level and exhibit that as a trophee.
Whilst overpayer are said to be destroying the market also cheap charlies are damaging the market as that becomes then the standrd the girls think we farang are.
So there wil lbe a battle between those who pay the less money and those who deliver the lowest service.
Nothing to tell home about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1248254]I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.[/QUOTE]Same in Korea but the answer is because they are more attractive consumers than most in every sense of the word.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1248457]Same in Korea but the answer is because they are more attractive consumers than most in every sense of the word.[/QUOTE]Don't feel bad, my friends who are Japanese-Americans (3rd and 4th generation) are treated the same way as the rest of us by the Japanese Only clubs.
At a friend's recommendation, I went to this place called "Relax Beauty"
It is located in the first sub soi of soi 33 on the right hand side.
It is at the deep end of the soi, infact the last shop to the right.
Had a nice chest and back waxing, pedicure, manicure all for 1000 Bahts!
Next time I am going to try their brazilian waxing, all for 500 bahts for men.
The ladies were very attentive,
Seems to be having an equal number of women and men customers,
Saw a few japanese men too.
Normal thai, oil massages and foot massages were also available.
Overall a very good relaxing 2 hours spent and pampered myself for all of 1000 Bahts.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1248391]There is an explanation. The relative cost for mongering, etc. Is much higher in Japan [as is true in Korea and lesser extent Taiwan] so they will flock over to LOS and other countries with deeper pockets. What they would drop per night drinking would alone be enough for most of us on ISG to pay for a couple of girls on LT basis. This 'drives' the price up for non Japanese, thus the 'inferiority'.[/QUOTE]Japanese have historically help ruin every working girl scene they've touched! It's just the way it is. I guess there has to be at least one weak link in the chain.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1248504]Japanese have historically help ruin every working girl scene they've touched! It's just the way it is. I guess there has to be at least one weak link in the chain.[/QUOTE]Of course the price is just one aspect, but not really the most important one. Style is the other and perhaps the most important. Take Thermae for example. Used to be a very fun place. Girls would be dancing by the jukebox, drinking, approaching customers, grabbing them, flirting, and generally having fun. It was a party atmosphere every night. Now, it is like a bad junior high dance with the guys on one side and the girls lined up on the wall. Very little interaction. The guys walk past them like they are checking out a piece of meat at the grocery store and many times don't say a word. So, the "fun" element has gone. That is the change that has turned me off.
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1248434]This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.
Quite a while ago I went to Angel massage and had Ann. It was great because she rarely got picked by whities. And maybe due to mainly serving Japanese but she was tight! Nice big fake tits too![/QUOTE]Same is true in the "Japanese only" clubs in BKK. BTW, there are no clubs that refuse entry to Japanese. Guess when all are allowed in all the "Japanese only" clubs we will stop complaining about the effect the Japanese have had on the fun and the market in BKK!
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1248434]This is not a bad experience. This is the norm here in Japan. Half the time the bouncers / male staff will just make an X symbol with their arms and say no. The other half they will tell you sorry no entry for you.[/QUOTE]A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1248524]A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?[/QUOTE]Next time, pull up your pants and hide the duct tape and knife, son.
Was out and about last night for a bit, wondering the old haunts on lower Suk and was not surprised to find nothing taking my fancy. Very few, if any, attractive free lancers about and even Thermae was not that great.
One of the things that some of us tend to overlook is the increased opportunities for people in Thailand. You see "help wanted" signs everywhere and many bar and restaurant owners cannot find staff. Same is true in many companies here. Thailand is what we would call in the West, at full employment, or as close as you can get.
I believe this has a huge effect on the mongering scene. As salaries have increased there is far less need to go out and "rent the body" in order to make ends meet. Venues that used to pack these part-timers in are now filled with ragged out regulars and dregs. The "scene" has changed.
In 99 when I moved here, Thailand was still reeling from the Asian crisis and the haunts were full of great looking girls eager to please and make a buck. Fast forward 12 years and throw in a social order crackdown, a coup, social unrest, a good employment market, and changing demographics in the Lower Suk area and we are dealing with a far different world for the monger. Ten years ago I could not walk 10 meters without seeing a doinkable gal, now it is rare that I see even one on a nightly foray. Times are a changin' and there is nothing we can do but roll with it.
Thank God for Oilies!
And call it the anti japanese thread. One full page and almost nothing on the BKK scene, just used and well known cliches endlessly repeated. Do you just alldo "Japanese watching" when in BKK, or do you sometimes monger? I wonder.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1248546]And call it the anti japanese thread. One full page and almost nothing on the BKK scene, just used and well known cliches endlessly repeated. Do you just alldo "Japanese watching" when in BKK, or do you sometimes monger? I wonder.[/QUOTE]You could apply for the BKK thread moderator position and fix this issue but you would be very busy as these threads rarely stay on track as Officer Mooris7 will attest. He is so disgusted he's giving board the silence treatment till it gets back on track. Because Bangkok is so international, next week the topic may be all about prices followed by LBs then ATM fees or tap water and my favorite, tipping.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1248497]At a friend's recommendation, I went to this place called "Relax Beauty"
It is located in the first sub soi of soi 33 on the right hand side.
It is at the deep end of the soi, infact the last shop to the right.
Next time I am going to try their brazilian waxing, all for 500 bahts for men.
Overall a very good relaxing 2 hours spent and pampered myself for all of 1000 Bahts.[/QUOTE]Good information (BTW, do they allow japaense in? Ah ah ah ah) tell us about the brazilian waxing when you do it. Always heard it is a bit painful. I had the "shaving" at the Nana Hotel MP and that was ok during and lasts quite long, later, never had a problem even when hair started to grow again.
If I well understand it is the sub-soi close to the italian restarant?
Might try this, as very close to LL.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1248524]A few years back in Tokyo I tried going into a porno shop and was told Only Japanese. Getting turned down by a porno shop? How low on the evolutionary scale do they think we are?[/QUOTE]You have to take into account the japanese culture. They never want to say no and not being able to serve a customer (due to the language barrier, mainly) has the effect to refuse foreigners.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1248254]I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.[/QUOTE]Only white countries are all sad about discrimination, all the other countries don't give a toss, and if you ask about it they say say "they are preserving their cultural heritage" and so stuff off.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1248605]Only white countries are all sad about discrimination, all the other countries don't give a toss, and if you ask about it they say say "they are preserving their cultural heritage" and so stuff off.[/QUOTE]Yes, it really only is the West that is concerned about discrimination, but eventually all nations will be as globalization will make it impossible not to. Big thumbs down to countries that still endorse discriminatory policies.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1248561](snip) next week the topic may be all about prices followed by LBs then ATM fees or tap water and my favorite, tipping.[/QUOTE]You have forgotten the orchids! How could you forget the orchids?
[url]http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html[/url]
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching/crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying/screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1248731][url]http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html[/url]
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.
Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1248764]Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.[/QUOTE]I love it. Maybe that would work.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1248764]Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Pmsl cock in the mouth works every time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1248731]This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! You were getting it done and you told her to shut up? I have an early 30s girl here in Osaka that thankfully doesn't do it. And before I was banging this ballet dancer chick who also was moaning quite nicely without the screeching. Even when she took it up the arse. And a few I shagged before that were the same.
Hopefully the thread gets back to info about Bangkok before too long. Come and have a look at the Osaka thread in the Japan forum etc for info on J girls!
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1248764]Perhaps you have overlooked the obvious solution, Lovepuss: stick your dick in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Or fingers in her mouth, as is seen in porn, if you want to keep fucking her. I prefer duct tape & find TGs are mostly starfish and non screechers, and it is always interesting to compare Bangkok to other places like Cambodia, PI and Japan. So lots of good comments here lately. Keep it up boys, the bottle is still half full. BTW since I can't seem to make paragraphs here anymore, I figured why bother with proper sentences either.
Hello guys.
Just wondering Le Meridian, Bangkok is a girl friendly hotel?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1248731][url]http://www.slutload.com/watch/GCQJ7dstWL2/Japanese-Teen-Screaming-while-being-FastFucked.html[/url]
This is an example of the fake annoying screeching / crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. They all did it. I finally told one to shut up and she still continued. Some think it is a cultural thing. In fact, if you do a search on "Japan girls crying / screeching during sex" there are lots of hits.
If some of you guys get off on this annoying noise, well, go for it brother. I would much rather stick to the more lovely suttle sounds I get from the Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]You seem to be spending a lot of time researching how to discount J-girls. If that is how you want to spend your time in BKK, that's your choice, ofcourse. Still no info whatsoever on mongering BKK in the last 2 pages of this thread. I don't really care, have moved on, but still a pity for those looking for real info.
Hi,
Visiting Bangkok for a couple of days. I am aware of the many possible places for soapy massage and oil massage. If anyone is able to spare a few mins, can you PM the names / addresses of the good soapy and oil massage places. Ones with good selections and value for money.
Your help and advice is appreciated.
Chrismonger3
Yes indeed, stick your dick in her mouth and get a real "hummer".
[QUOTE=LookItsScott;1248820]Pmsl cock in the mouth works every time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I endorse this method. It is foolproof for shutting up a yakkity yak-mouth regardless of national origin. Hehe
Will be in town next month.
Forgot the name of the BJ bar on Sukhumvit Road. I believe its on Soi 8. Some help please.
Thank you.
[quote=henryv; 1249052]will be in town next month.
forgot the name of the bj bar on sukhumvit road. i believe its on soi 8. some help please.
thank you.[/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on suk 8.
you may also want to try this place:http://bjbarbangkok.com/
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1248731][url(snip) This is an example of the fake annoying screeching/crying from the Japanese girls I have been with. (snip).[/QUOTE]Annoying yes, but fake crying? I think not. As you can see on this and many other Japanese porn videos on the net, most Japanese men have a dick made out of small edgy cubes. I can imagine it really hurts when they are fucking their ladies.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1248179]Very well stated. Stereotypes develop for a reason, but we need to remember that there are always exceptions to the rule.[/QUOTE]Not to extend this story and nothing personal on my part. But today there is a sport story written by Gwenn Knapp on the [url]www.sfgate.com[/url] Regarding a basketball player Jeremy Lin who plays for the New York Knicks. This story believe it or not has lots to do with the discussion lately?
LBM
[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1248805]Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?[/QUOTE]Sure, Lots of Easter parties in hotels and bars. The town is jumping with the Christians.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1248904]You seem to be spending a lot of time researching how to discount J-girls. If that is how you want to spend your time in BKK, that's your choice, ofcourse. Still no info whatsoever on mongering BKK in the last 2 pages of this thread. I don't really care, have moved on, but still a pity for those looking for real info.[/QUOTE]Dreams, you sure seem like a nice guy. But for all the pussy's sake, get a life. Nobody is forcing you to read this. If you are so concerned become the moderator of this thread or just stop talking.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1249153]Dreams, you sure seem like a nice guy. But for all the pussy's sake, get a life. Nobody is forcing you to read this. If you are so concerned become the moderator of this thread or just stop talking.[/QUOTE]Really feeling good that you think I am a nice guy. Makes my day.
Cheers!
Dear All,
Just got the chance to stop over in Bangkok, stay my usual Hotel in Soi 2, Majestic Grande.
Visit Raibow 4, as usual full house but girls is just so so and when to Rainbow 1, many Jap in this bar. Girls and waittress are not like those in Rainbow 4. This place is more pushy, the waitresses will show you a card whenever the girls seated beside you, I have seen there is Short time 2000 bht, Long Time 4000 bhat. Girls mostly prefer short time.
So nothing in bith raibow bar for me, so went to angel witch, they have a nice show, some girls naked while performing at the stage. Many westerner than asian in this bar. But to my surprises, why they are charging the same as to Rainbows bar. St: 2000 bht, LT: 4000 bht. Is Bangkok becoming more standard in prices for all? If so, then the Jap have make the price went up high. (nothing to against the Jap here) but Bangkok is becoming more and more pricer now. Last time I have only paid 2500 bht for the LT (that was way back last end of the year). Or perhaps my negotiation is not good enough.
At the end, take a lady out from angel witch but later decide to let her go after ST. As her services is just so so.
Any update?
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1248206]You should really post more.
Excellent report, and I enjoyed your 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. Is LOS going downhill so fast as a mongering place? Or is police asking for more money from the bars? Or is just Nana going the same way as Patpong, I. E. Tourist scam? Please give me some opinion, I am stunned.
[QUOTE=Macho Dik; 1249201]Dear All,
Just got the chance to stop over in Bangkok, stay my usual Hotel in Soi 2, Majestic Grande.
Visit Raibow 4, as usual full house but girls is just so so and when to Rainbow 1, many Jap in this bar. Girls and waittress are not like those in Rainbow 4. This place is more pushy, the waitresses will show you a card whenever the girls seated beside you, I have seen there is Short time 2000 bht, Long Time 4000 bhat. Girls mostly prefer short time.
So nothing in bith raibow bar for me, so went to angel witch, they have a nice show, some girls naked while performing at the stage. Many westerner than asian in this bar. But to my surprises, why they are charging the same as to Rainbows bar. St: 2000 bht, LT: 4000 bht. Is Bangkok becoming more standard in prices for all? If so, then the Jap have make the price went up high. (nothing to against the Jap here) but Bangkok is becoming more and more pricer now. Last time I have only paid 2500 bht for the LT (that was way back last end of the year). Or perhaps my negotiation is not good enough.
At the end, take a lady out from angel witch but later decide to let her go after ST. As her services is just so so.
Any update?
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]Some don't agree, but I believe you are right on regarding the Japanese influence.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1249490]I haven't seen prices change in 9 years. Its a never ending supply of ugly issan girls invading the tourist areas.[/QUOTE]9 years of nothing but uglies?! What keeps bring you back? Is it the temples or the cheap food?!!
[QUOTE=Irjle;1249320]Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. Is LOS going downhill so fast as a mongering place? Or is police asking for more money from the bars? Or is just Nana going the same way as Patpong, I. E. Tourist scam? Please give me some opinion, I am stunned.[/QUOTE]It is sad but true. Guys need to just stop paying the ridiculous fees and prices will drop. Some months ago, I met several Rainbow dancers eating food out on the street after work. Got to chatting with them, ended up going home and having a great night with them. At some point while we were out on the street, one of them says to me,"it must be great living here." I asked her why, and she said,"because you don't need to go to bars and pay fine, and can probably meet many ladies outside here and only pay 1000 or 1500 baht, right?" I looked at her and smiled. And yes, I gave each one exactly 1000 baht when they left my room some 6 hours later.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1249490]Its a never ending supply of ugly issan girls invading the tourist areas.[/QUOTE]One man's ugly is another man's beauty!
[QUOTE=Irjle;1249320]Thanks for the comments to my previous post. I have a lot to share, having been in LOS 30+ times in 25 years, but it would be just generic advice / tales more than real current info, having missed 2011 and 2012 so far. Hope to go there in 2013, but wait: in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? 4000 sounds ridiculous to me even as a bargaining starting point. .[/QUOTE]4000 baht may sound ridiculous to you but in the UK an overnighter would set you back 35, 000 baht, with the really pretty girls they don't even want to go LT, much better for them to go ST and be back in bar within 30 minutes. If you want cheaper prices then you have to take the freelancer route.
[QUOTE=Irjle;1249320](snip) in a recent post I read Rainbow 1 and 4 and Angelwitch asking for 4000 LT. Now, how's that? No financial crisis in LOS? Hyperinflation? Or they're just trying to screw newcomers? (snip)[/QUOTE]That is the price they show you on the menu-card. I think they have noticed the tendency of many (newbee) farang to accept everything as long as it is printed. I was in Angelwitch in December 2012 and for some reason they did not pull that trick on me.
I heard some bars tried to make you pay upfront for LT, arguing that some of their girls have been scammed by farang who refused to pay afterwards.
4000LT was the price in Rainbow4 since as early as 2006 in many cases. I'm surprised that some are still bringing this up as "expensive". Do you want it free or what?
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1249601]4000LT was the price in Rainbow4 since as early as 2006 in many cases. I'm surprised that some are still bringing this up as "expensive". Do you want it free or what?[/QUOTE]For free? Did I say that, dear friend? What I said is that I was never, ever proposed 4k as a starting point nowhere in LOS. If that happened to you since 2006, I believe you and I am sorry for you, but for me is new and a rip-off. For LT I never went above 2. 5K for real stunners starting from maybe 3. 5 or 3. As you see I do not bargain that hard either. The real reason why I do not post much is that anything you say here, however innocent and in good faith, is modified or misunderstood and then thrown against you by someone who have too much free time and too little common sense.
Just like the other member that mentions 35. 000 baht as UK price: I do not understand how can you compare these two things. Dear fellow, next time you'll try to buy a home in UK for 400k GBP go say to the seller "Hey, but in Pattaya I can get the same flat for 30k GBP". Please record the reaction on camera and post it here, ok? That's entertainment!
Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.
thank you.
found the website amusing. do you know how long that place has been there (soi 7)?
[quote=luvpuss; 1249065][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on suk 8.
you may also want to try this place:[url]http://bjbarbangkok.com/[/url][/quote]
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1249565]4000 baht may sound ridiculous to you but in the UK an overnighter would set you back 35, 000 baht, with the really pretty girls they don't even want to go LT, much better for them to go ST and be back in bar within 30 minutes. If you want cheaper prices then you have to take the freelancer route.[/QUOTE]But the key point here is that you are not in the UK. Does not matter what you would pay anywhere else.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1249535]It is sad but true. Guys need to just stop paying the ridiculous fees and prices will drop. Some months ago, I met several Rainbow dancers eating food out on the street after work. Got to chatting with them, ended up going home and having a great night with them. At some point while we were out on the street, one of them says to me,"it must be great living here." I asked her why, and she said,"because you don't need to go to bars and pay fine, and can probably meet many ladies outside here and only pay 1000 or 1500 baht, right?" I looked at her and smiled. And yes, I gave each one exactly 1000 baht when they left my room some 6 hours later.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Living here gives us a big leg up. We are in no hurry as we are here when you go home. Low season is quite nice.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1249701]But the key point here is that you are not in the UK. Does not matter what you would pay anywhere else.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is the standard reply I always get, what it boils down to is market forces, if girls can ask for 4000 baht and get it then what is the problem.
The solution to avoid high fees is stick to the poorer quality girls in Pattaya, plenty there for 1000 baht overnight.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1249671]Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.[/QUOTE]You make a good point, the top girls in Baccara, Rainbow 4 and Angel Witch don't need to drop their prices. You may get LT for 3000 baht at 2am but by the time you get back to the room it is going to be a short LT.
[quote=henryv; 1249677]thank you.
found the website amusing. do you know how long that place has been there (soi 7)?[/quote]it has been there for several months. it is affiliated with annie's. the place is nicer than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, not that it matters. you saw the prices for bj. 700 and 1000. the place is worth checking out. i have had a several good experiences there.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1249671]Yeah, a lot of people are making fun of the 2000-4000 prices in the big bars, that "only newbies pay". I'm not seeing many reports of successful attempts below those prices in those bars, though.[/QUOTE]1500 baht LT in Soi Cowboy's Suzie Wong last June, but 3000 baht LT last December.
Although ISG is supposed to be a site for mongers, there's nothing to stop working girls (or friends of) to pose as a monger (s) and feeding misleading information on pricing. Nuff said.
Spaceman
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1249746]Yes, that is the standard reply I always get, what it boils down to is market forces, if girls can ask for 4000 baht and get it then what is the problem.[/QUOTE]The default answer to this as parroted by many here is that if Mr. Monger pays that rate he ruins the market and increase prices for the rest of us. Never saw any evidence to support this as you can always pass on a provider if her prices are unreasonable and find one more reasonable or one you can afford.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1249899]The default answer to this as parroted by many here is that if Mr. Monger pays that rate he ruins the market and increase prices for the rest of us. Never saw any evidence to support this as you can always pass on a provider if her prices are unreasonable and find one more reasonable or one you can afford.[/QUOTE]This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab; 1249902]This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Really? What makes you say that? Do you live here as well? I guarantee you we get better "rates" as most of us speak the language, and have no timetable.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1249902]if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.[/QUOTE]Not sure about less attractive as not everyone is attracted Rainbow cookie cutter type girls and they are not all attractive. Some men want big girls, others want the Issan look, still others want girls with the toothy smile or girls without tattoos. Because we are all attracted to different type girls, we can seek out the types we want and pay the price we want. If they don't want to accept your price move on to the next, eventually you will find the one you want providing you are reasonable and not expecting to pay the same rate your dad did 40 years ago.
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1249876]Although ISG is supposed to be a site for mongers, there's nothing to stop working girls (or friends of) to pose as a monger (s) and feeding misleading information on pricing. Nuff said.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]You better beleive it. Many girls know about this and other sites.
I was on Soi 6 last month in a bar. The bartender had a popular local site, P Addicts logged onto her computer. They are well aware and actively involved.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1249759]1500 baht LT in Soi Cowboy's Suzie Wong last June, but 3000 baht LT last December.[/QUOTE]2000 LT at1 0pm last week from Rawhide. Not a stunner, but not ugly either.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab; 1249902]This is the problem, as I see it anyway. Not all girls are the same quality, the very attractive girls know full well that someone will eventually pay the rate they are asking, take Rainbow 4 as an example, the same girls get barfined night after night, if I really want the girl then I have a choice, I can either pay her 4000 baht or seek out a less attractive girl.
These gents who claim because they live in Bangkok they get special rates are being less than truthful in my opinion.[/QUOTE]JRC. As you read the replies here, you are getting good examples of how your opinion does not hold true. You only add up 2 options. Paying the rate or moving on. The 3rd option is a friendly negotiation of the price.
I guess the thing is, it's not all the same price for the ladies even if they do print up a price list. It really does vary.
While I have been to Bangkok a few times, I have mostly been sampling the oilys and soapies exclusively. In the non go-go bars like Climax or Q bar or Nana Disco where FLs come to dance and get picked up, how much making out, contact is allowed with the ladies? Can or will the FLs do lap dances or allow kissing and groping?
On a similar theme, if you took out a lady from one of the oilys foe the night, will they go out with you to some of these dance clubs to drink and dance and make out? Just curious about what people's experiences have been.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1249980]2000 LT at1 0pm last week from Rawhide. Not a stunner, but not ugly either.[/QUOTE]The fact that you point out she was not a stunner tells me all I need to know, yes I believe you paid 2000 baht.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1249942]Really? What makes you say that? Do you live here as well? I guarantee you we get better "rates" as most of us speak the language, and have no timetable.[/QUOTE]No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250018]No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.[/QUOTE]What they really mean is they avoid expats because the expat knows the score and will not put up with their games and foolishness including insane prices. Tourists are an easy mark.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250018]No, I don't live in Bangkok but have been there in excess of 25 times, some girls tell me they avoid ex-pats because they are cheap charlies, not my words by the way.[/QUOTE]Most expats choose to retire there because of cheap living and cheap pussy. They know where they can get cheap, unspoiled girls. There are plenty of non-descript bars where you can get non mercenary girls.
These girls you talk of probably avoid local guys too for the same reason.
Hi,
I don't know how relevant this is but anyway I BF'd a stunner from Angelwitch in Jan 2010 for 1500 BHT (she initially wanted 2000). She had wavy hair, white skin, tall about 5-7, great legs and big toned natural tits, quite unlike any TG I'd encountered before.
However, If you think I'm blowing my trumpet then read on. Her attitude stank, she acted the prima donna, didn't blow my trumpet. And basically lay there and resisted any motion from me. She started telling me to hurry up, and that she was leaving if I didn't finish soon, so I slipped off the condom and started titty fucking her and blocking out the rest of her I shot my load over those fantastic melons, it was a great sight and provided me with some solace.
She then put on her clothes and started dancing again in front of me? Just loved herself a bit too much. Asked (or demanded) taxi money told her to get lost. So I agree it's performance not presentation and screen your applicants cafefully first.
Good info fellas!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1250025]What they really mean is they avoid expats because the expat knows the score and will not put up with their games and foolishness including insane prices. Tourists are an easy mark.[/QUOTE]What is insane to you is peanuts to some people.