Fortaleza

Ciao Rion Nut,

Thanks for informations. Last March 03 I was in trouble if Recife or Fortaleza. For me the same, but I choosed Recife and it was a little disaster. Yes the sea, cheap food are great and I had big saidade LOL! But no night life with exception of Bamboo and Sampa, so surely I will choose Fortaleza next time.

My friend was in Maceio, little turist as you told me and quite good, but in January, last march 03, the third week of march, 2 italians, (I am Italians too, and you?), went to Maceio and stay there 2 days. Nobody's was there they told me, so I don't know. Joao da Pessoa I know nothing. How far are these cities of interior of F.? You went there by bus? I wish you a beautiful weekend, I go to Bratislava until Tuesday, my little Brasil here without Ocean LOL.

Take care,

bye,

Luca

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hehehe Cash Works.

Well yes the girls are not naive in that they are stupid. They all want something.

What they think you give them is a better life and more status. Brazilian women, more than other women, always want to marry up up up. So a foreign man, even if you are 40-60 years old, would be a great catch to get empregnated by for a 16-25 year old girl.

Rio Nut,

Yeah, I remember having that sort of conversation with the girls at the barraccas when I was living down there. They all wanted to marry a foreigner, since "all the foreigners who managed to travel to Fortaleza for a vacations were RICH after all." Of course, after they got hitched to this foreigner they had known for a week, they would move away from Brasil to "live the good life" in whatever country their new spouse hailed from. Some Fantasy, eh?

Being the nice guy that I am, I tried to explain economics and the idea that wealth is a relative thing, but I really don't think that I got through to any of them. It was fun trying though and usually wound up with a session back at my apartment when they got really confused - sex was the one thing these girls knew a lot about, so if their idea of reality was ever in doubt, a vigorous sex session would put things back in perspective for them.

I remember this one girl - she was one of my girlfriends roommates - named Teca (I never actually had sex with this one, just a lot of flirting). She was absolutely beautiful, but dumb as hell. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling her dumb because she was illiterate and uneducated, I know some very intelligent people who have that same unfortunate condition. I'm calling her dumb because she was too proud to ask anybody for help with things she knew nothing about like reading and writing. She actually managed to snag herself a Swiss tourist (without getting pregnant, I might add). When he got back to Switzerland, he arranged a visa for her and even sent her an open plane ticket to use whenever she got all the paperwork finished on her end (getting a passport and getting the visa stamped in it, etc.). A week after I heard about her "good fortune", she showed up at the barracca where I was spending my afternoon. She said she had thrown everything in the trash because she couldn't fill out the forms to get the passport and she was too embarrassed to ask anybody to help her. I reckon, if she's still alive, she's still in Fortaleza but I doubt that she's still hooking since she'd be pushing 40 by now.

CW

RioNut and Cashworks,

You guys have provided me with motivation. I will be going to Fortaleza the end of this month for about 12 days and then moving on to another place. I was supposed to be accompanied by 2 of my friends, but one of them just pulled out on me TODAY, and the other is still in the air about it (but I think he's going to pull out on me also), while I have already booked my airline ticket.

So, as it turns out, I JUST MAY be in Fortaleza all by my lonesome self, with limited portuguese (on the 2nd Set of the Pimsleur 30-CD Lesson) I reckon I may have a hard time, but I fared pretty well in Rio during Carnival, but alot of the pros there spoke some (if not much) english.

I have an apartment in mind now, i'm just not sure if the guy is trying to scam me or not. I have thought about just getting a cheap hotel for one night and use the time to go and view apartments and find out about their guest policy before I commit to anything, and i'm afraid to try and call someone because the minute they hear that i'm not a fluent portuguese speaker and guess that i'm an American, i'll get the "American Price".

In any event, i've heard a few stories, and I have some buddies in Miami whom have been to Fortaleza and made a little video about it (which I have yet to get). I hope there will be plenty of things to keep me busy, and my other friends are telling me that i'm CRAZY to be going to a city in Brazil ALONE, and not knowing that much Portuguese.

I say "what the hell, you only live once", and they start talking about safety. I'm a 6'4, 250lb black guy with a linebackers build and i'm from a city where crime is no stranger. I fared well in Rio, I played it smart, no flashy jewelry, inexpensive (looking) watch and kept my head on a swivel. I'll do the same in Fortaleza, even though all the reports I read on Fortaleza state that crime is not that big an issue as it is in Rio, and I didn't ever feel uneased in Rio during my whole 8 day stay. Although, i'm no dummy and I know size can't beat a gun, if I ever were in a situation where some brasileiro attempted to rob me, I think I could stomach giving them what was in my pockets at the time, and still feel pretty good about having an extra credit card stashed somewhere in my apartment. LOL

Thanks for the motivation guys, and if there's any more information you all think might be useful to me on this trip, then i'd love to hear it. This will be my 2nd time in Brazil, but not my first time doing a trip alone. I did Puerto Rico, Cozumel, Belize, and The US Virgin Islands alone all for 2 weeks at a time, so i'm sure i'll find the company of some beautiful girls. No GFE's though, i'm spoiled and if i'm paying to play, I want to wake up with something different every morning, as opposed to having one stay with me for 5-7 days. Plus i'm sure i'll do alot of doubles in Fortaleza.

Anyway, thanks guys and I look forward to more advice/info/stories before I leave in -- 25 days!

To Silent,

I will just support you and wish you good luck and a happy travel, even if you are travelling alone. I was there in july 2003, travelling alone, and felt none problems. am going back in late June this summer, because its so easy to fell in love with the people and their "manjana-atmosphere"!

Have a nice trip!

Oi Silent,

Nice to hear that you are going. Nice friends you got, thought. I bet the trip was all their idea.

Where do you stay anyway, have you tried my tip?

Hope you'll have a fabulous time in Fortaleza.

Sumimazen

Sumimazen,

I absolutely have tried your tip and it's proving very fruitful, I'm just skeptic about everyones guest policy.

Via Venetto looks rather promising though. Right now i'm going through this online company that is giving me good rates, but I don't think they're promising airport transfer, but i'll get around that, or either hop a taxi.

This WILL be a good trip. I will see to it.

I'm listening to, and practicing dancing forro as I type.

(well, I'm not exactly dancing as I type, but i'm listening to forro)

Yes, Fortaleza is NOTHING like Rio de Janeiro in violence and murder. Actually, there are favela like areas, but you have no need to go to such places. Besides, you will be too enchanted with the gorgeous beaches and sand dunes to even notice, Rio de Janeiro city beaches are nothing compared to these.

As for prostitutes, there are large roving bands of hundreds of girls everywhere. It is no problem switching one 18 year old girl to another every night, or better yet, have 2 or 3 on the same night! The only thign is that you will be fighting it out with Dutch and Italian men, who come every week on charter flights to also fuck the pretty girls. Actually there are many many Italians, Dutch and Portuguese who never left and now live in Fortaleza.

I have never taken 4 *****s, but I have once taken 3. I woke up with 3 nakes teenage girls, one sleeping near my penis, and the other two wrapped around my arms. I felt like the king, and it was a fantasy come true watching 3 young women fighting over my cock with their tongues. Actually, the best part was when I was really fucking hard the youngest one who was whimpering and very wet, and the other two started saying "eu quero tambem" (I want it too). hehe They all want to be fucked!!

In my opinion, the night life of Fortaleza is the best in ALL of Brazil. And yes, even better than Sao Paulo because anywhere in the South, you have stuck up people who are reserved. It is like partying in London. What is the point? But in Fortaleza, you have a club, lots of crazy people, and of course, many many semi-pros you can fuck.

Do not forget the beach of Jeri, which is worth renting a boogy and taking a few bitches too. It is almost like paradise, swimming in very clear blue waters naked with women that you fuck all day, then buying cheap crab and having it fed to you. Yes, the Nordeste is the besT!

Silent,

Unfortunately, I can't give you any current information. I've been meaning to get back down to Brasil for quite a few years, but fate seems to be working against me - every time I get close to going, something comes up that screws up my travel plans. One of these days though - It's still in the plans!

If you're 6'4", the locals will think you're a giant. I'm right at 6', and I was at least half a head taller than most of the men and a full head taller than most of the women in Fortaleza - folks in Rio, as I recall, were generally a little taller than the folks in Fortaleza. I had one girlfriend who used to call me "Grandao", I'd like to say that it was in reference to my member, but I think I'd be lying.

People in Fortaleza were much more laid back than the folks in Rio when I was living down there. I'm sure that this may have changed a little though.

Just relax, be polite and have a sense of humor - the locals will see you're happy & that will generally lead them to treat you in a friendly manor (this actually works just about everywhere - even Lagos, Nigeria).

I envy you. Have a great trip. Give your buddies hell for whimping out.

CW

Hey guys,

Thanks for the inspiration!

Now one of my buddies is trying to sing a different tune, but I think he's still faking on me. Now he's trying to say he can come for 5 days possibly, but he can't escape his girl for any longer, plus he has to lie to her and tell her he's going to Miami, not Brazil. *sad*

I wanted to ask you guys, does any of you have any information on this particular Accor Hotel/Flat (basically short-term apartment rentals):

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PARTHENON MEIRELLES
Rua joaquim nabuco 166, Fortaleza br 60125120, Brasil - Fortaleza - Brazil
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I've got great quotes on this place and was even able to get a few good online reviews from satisfied customers, but I guess what I really wanted to know was exactly how good it is in proximity to action and ease of mobility. (can I get around fairly easy from there). Is the pussy close to this place? (that's what I really want to say)

I know that it's got everything else I want in terms of luxury (with MANDATORY bed service daily), and the guy has sent me about 7 pictures of inside the apartment, the view from the balcony, and even the lobby. I was adimant about seeing the place BEFORE I committed to anything.

He's guaranteeing me that I will be allowed to bring guest back to the apartment (with ID of course), because this is considered a "flat service" and not a hotel stay, also free breakfast (per usual), airport transfer, and I talked him into throwing in a cellphone for the length of my stay. Hell, i'm sure he's shaving off a cut of the money, why not make me, the customer, happy here.

Clubs I have on my hotlist so far.

Pirata (Monay Night MUST)
Drago do Mar
Mucuripe Club
Zipi (i think?)
Desigual?

Any others?

I will probably be posting DAILY frontline reports from Fortaleza, to keep all my fellow mongerers inspired, and i'll try my best to equip each report with my take of the day.

Silent, I really feel a little bit jealous for the fact you are going there, but I think I may be of some help.

The place to stay, should be a flat, you may choose a hotel for the first night (whatever you choose will be ok, but try a nice one, since it will be just one day).

Then you should go to flatshop, as millions of times people recomended in this Forum.
There you will apointed with several flats, and simply choose one.

Of course if you move throughout Av. Abolicao, in direction to Iracema, you will find several buildings where you can try to enter and ask if some apartments are free. This may seem confusing but there you will imediatly understand, what buildings are renting flats to foreigner. Flatshop will be your best try.

Bars, are all in the same zone in Iracema, its impressive, dont worry you will find them. Zipi and Desigual are in that iracema zone, but the big bar there, its Kapital (changed the name recently). Dragão do Mar, is a cultural zone near iracema, where you have theaters, and some bar (non-pro, mainly for Brasilien common people, but of course you may pick up someone depending of your ability). Pirata is in Iracema (near the Hot bars), but it has a different environment, very big, so you will find common people, and also some pros, but its not the ideal place for hunting

In the afternoons, you have always a Pro/non Pro scene in Praia do Futuro, 8 Kilometeres (20 Brasilien reals by taxi) from Iracema.

Enjoy, and behave.

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No, I recommend this one:

http://www.sunflower-hotel.com/

It is a beautiful very clean very well-kept Pousada run by a European man with Brazilian staff. He will give you all the information you need on where to go, what is hot, the latest gossip with the girls, and best of all, will not even care that you are fucking one teenage girl after another throughout your stay.

I highly recommend, and it has many fotos and centrally located. I very much enjoyed my stay there.

Also do not forget to take some young horny bitches to Canoa Quebrada. When I was there, there was an old British man in his 50s and he had with him 2 teenage school girls as his sex slaves. I do not know where he got the, but they were very cute! Such perky breasts and well formed bundas (asses)!! Anyway, he said he had come for 5 days and was now in his 2nd month of vacation!

Your breath will be taken away with the paradise places in Ceara. It is so different, including the women's friendliness from the South of Brazil, it is like another country. For some reason, Ceara girls also have a reputation of being flirty and horny. The girls in Pernambuco (where Recife is) are not like that...they are more conservative.

Also, there is a difference between Bahia girls and Ceara girls. Ceara girls have less black blood (although some still have of course), so you are more likely to find girls who look like Salma Hayek or Jay Lo than you maybe Beyonce or Hale Berry.

Many people prefer the pousadas, i never tried it. I really prefered to pay less, for a whole flat just for me. Also with security, and parking facility.

The only minus point was the fact, you will have to get your own breakfast.
But its its good people have diferent views, this way we all get pleased with our lodging options!

I will now repeat some something I said some months ago.

Dont put your expectations too high.

Yes its true, there will be millions of girls, but the average level is somewhat low (for my personal taste). No doubt you will find 9's and perhaps some 10's, but you will have to work really hard on that.

But it will be great, I will return there as soon as I can.

Breakfast in the Apartment.

Well, I used to have some buddies who would make the girl they spent the night with fix breakfast before they let her go home in the morning. One of these guys even made the girls clean his apartment (saved on maid service I guess).

Just make sure that you have food in the kitchen, because one of these guys told his girl to fix breakfast, but forgot that he was out of food. He heard her leave & thought that she was pissed off & left without getting her money from him, so he just rolled over and went back to sleep. A little while later, he heard noise in the kitchen and went to investigate (butt naked). The girl explained that there wasn't any food and she really didn't know how to cook, so she went home and got her mother (who was there, staring at his dick since he wasn't wearing any clothes). He claims that he grabbed the girl and had one last quickie while mom was cooking breakfast.

If it was me, I would have tried to get mom to join in.

CW

I was in Fortaleza with a friend last Fall for about a week and a half. I loved it, and I thought the garotas were better looking than many posters believe. My friend went back this Spring - about 5 months later - and says there are totally different girls in Iracema now than before. Is the turnover that quick? What happened to the garotas that were in Iracema last Fall? Where did they go? Do other cities, including Rio, have such a quick turnover also? Can anyone explain why there is such a quick turnover? I am just curious.