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[quote=Nowrath]Money earned by you, should and will be spent by you in any way you want to spend it.

Every board has the same complaints don't pay this, you'll spoil them, you'll make it harder for all of the rest of us.

Let's not lie to ourselves. It's our money! If we are a fools etc spending our money in this foolish way so be it. What I should save it for a cool car, big house etc.

Don't start with that let's band together crap, because you know good and well you'll steal that woman you want from that stranger or friend in a heartbeat.

So like I won't tell you what; s in my bank account because it's my business don't tell me how to spend my money.

If you saved $20. 00 more bucks than me by bargaining down this woman for services good for you.

If I treat her like a human and not a ***** let me be a fool.

It's not a slave auction too me it's just a business transaction between 2 people.

Be it Brazil, Colombia or Thailand or my first trip to DR next year my trips are all the same relax, enjoy the sights, have the company of a woman occasionally and don't stress over every $$ I think that person is ripping me off for.

My property tax is over $3000. 00, my untilities rates have doubled, car insurance just went up.

You know if a third world woman want's to get an additional $20. 00 bucks out of me I think I can manage because like I said it's my money.

Read the post it was an additional $100. Learn the culture as well, these women earn more than 80% of the population (police,fireman,teacher).
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[post]768201[/post][/quote]GALAXY

I read the post ,what you missed was the important "IT MY MONEY"

And what does culture have to do with it. a stripper in USA makes more than cops, teachers and police here also. So your point is?

But like I said this a tired issue , people will pay what they want where they want. Let the girls have fun time. Besides the cops, firemen or teachers don't have to spread their legs or these tubbies or have their picture spread over the internet.

Nowrath

[QUOTE=Nowrath]GALAXY

I read the post ,what you missed was the important "IT MY MONEY"

And what does culture have to do with it. a stripper in USA makes more than cops, teachers and police here also. So your point is?

But like I said this a tired issue , people will pay what they want where they want. Let the girls have fun time. Besides the cops, firemen or teachers don't have to spread their legs or these tubbies or have their picture spread over the internet.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]


I have to agree.
The fact that a sex worker earns more than a teacher, fireman, etc. is irrelevant.
Don't know why some people raise that issue, unless its a convenient excuse to try to pay even less.
A sex worker in the US also earns more than teachers, firemen, etc.
Are you seriously expecting her to charge you the minimum wage per hour?

A teacher or fireman (or doctor):
Won't give you a BJ.
Won't have sex with fat, ugly, old, or obnoxious and abusive types looking to take advantage of poverty.
Won't risk a wide variety of STD, or pregnancy.
Won't risk violence or physical abuse.

Bottom Line: A sex worker earns her money.

[QUOTE=Llttf]My novia told me she had a type of cedula when she was 15, it was her school ID, not sure I would know the difference.

If in doubt, walk away.[/QUOTE]


They also share ID's. It certainly isn't uncommon for a younger girl to go out 'on the town' with her older sisters Cedula, or her friends, or her aunts...

I Agree to an extent, A sex worker is going to get whatever she can out of the consumer because that is her job, And you pay her whatever you want, that is your decision and your money. BUT with that being said there is nothing wrong with being an educated consumer and paying Market Price! I tell you what though, you over pay in SOSEWER and you will quickly be the talk of the town as the baboso who pays double and you will have an unusually extra high amount of putas following your every move. BUT HEY? maybe you like that or NEED that?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]I Agree to an extent, A sex worker is going to get whatever she can out of the consumer because that is her job, And you pay her whatever you want, that is your decision and your money. BUT with that being said there is nothing wrong with being an educated consumer and paying Market Price. I tell you what though, you over pay in SOSEWER and you will quickly be the talk of the town as the baboso who pays double and have an unusually extra hign amount of putas following your every move. BUT HEY? maybe you like that or NEED that?[/QUOTE]


Agree.
Pay a fair price.
Don't be TOO exploitive, but don't be stupid.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69]I have to agree.

The fact that a sex worker earns more than a teacher, fireman, etc. is irrelevant.
Don't know why some people raise that issue, unless its a convenient excuse to try to pay even less.

A sex worker in the US also earns more than teachers, firemen, etc.

Are you seriously expecting her to charge you the minimum wage per hour?

A teacher or fireman (or doctor):

Won't give you a BJ.

Won't have sex with fat, ugly, old, or obnoxious and abusive types looking to take advantage of poverty.

Won't risk a wide variety of STD, or pregnancy.

Won't risk violence or physical abuse.

Bottom Line: A sex worker earns her money.[/QUOTE]Yeah man but this is a monger site and we are advocating the monger position that a sex worker in a 3rd world country shouldn't be being paid 60% + of what a U. S. Sex worker gets when other "skilled" and unskilled workers get paid 20% of what a comparable U. S. Worker recieves.

Thats what we are advocating here and if you want the putas to get more you should go open a ***** site and organize the putas and help them form a trade union and shit.

After reading your post I'm sure they would vote you in as president or at least spokesperson.

[QUOTE=Rover2]Yeah man but this is a monger site and we are advocating the monger position that a sex worker in a 3rd world country shouldn't be being paid 60% + of what a U. S. Sex worker gets when other "skilled" and unskilled workers get paid 20% of what a comparable U. S. Worker recieves.

Thats what we are advocating here and if you want the putas to get more you should go open a ***** site and organize the putas and help them form a trade union and shit.

After reading your post I'm sure they would vote you in as president or at least spokesperson.[/QUOTE]

I am not trying to or want to start a flaming war here, but I don't understand something.

Although I understand this is a monger site, I thought that this site was for information exchange, period. I feel from your post that I missed something somewhere here on the board about all board members agreeing to and advocating the "monger position".

I don't know, for me I do not see any reason to treat these chica's like they are pieces of meat and feel personally attacked by anyone suggesting 3rd World putas don't earn their money because these girls make more than other professionals in the same country. In talking about going rate pricing, it is ultimately our individual decision on what is fair or not. It is a business transaction, pure and simple.

I personally feel that these chica's do earn the money that they bring home. I would not want to put myself in similar situations as them, and they take a much greater risk to bodily injury and disease than most professions. If this means I am the new presidential candidate for a puta trade union, or at least a new spokesman, so be it. To some it may feel comfortable to approach these girls as sub-human, but I look at this differently. I see many of these ladies as responsible bread winners in a much tougher situation both physically and financially than most any of us who enjoy this site.

Again no flaming intended, just putting another thought out there.

[QUOTE=Ponderosa]I am not trying to or want to start a flaming war here, but I don't understand something.

Although I understand this is a monger site, I thought that this site was for information exchange, period. I feel from your post that I missed something somewhere here on the board about all board members agreeing to and advocating the "monger position".

I don't know, for me I do not see any reason to treat these chica's like they are pieces of meat and feel personally attacked by anyone suggesting 3rd World putas don't earn their money because these girls make more than other professionals in the same country. In talking about going rate pricing, it is ultimately our individual decision on what is fair or not. It is a business transaction, pure and simple.

I personally feel that these chica's do earn the money that they bring home. I would not want to put myself in similar situations as them, and they take a much greater risk to bodily injury and disease than most professions. If this means I am the new presidential candidate for a puta trade union, or at least a new spokesman, so be it. To some it may feel comfortable to approach these girls as sub-human, but I look at this differently. I see many of these ladies as responsible bread winners in a much tougher situation both physically and financially than most any of us who enjoy this site.

Again no flaming intended, just putting another thought out there.[/QUOTE]Ponderosa,

I agree with you 100%.

Well put.

[QUOTE=Rover2]Yeah man but this is a monger site and we are advocating the monger position that a sex worker in a 3rd world country shouldn't be being paid 60% + of what a U. S. Sex worker gets when other "skilled" and unskilled workers get paid 20% of what a comparable U. S. Worker recieves.

Thats what we are advocating here and if you want the putas to get more you should go open a ***** site and organize the putas and help them form a trade union and shit.

After reading your post I'm sure they would vote you in as president or at least spokesperson.[/QUOTE]


You said:
"we are advocating the monger position that a sex worker in a 3rd world country shouldn't be being paid 60% + of what a U. S. Sex worker gets when other "skilled" and unskilled workers get paid 20% of what a comparable U. S. Worker recieves"

Sorry, but I must have missed the vote when it was decided what
" The Monger Position" is.

The fact is that there is no "Monger Position".
This site features only personal opinions. You have yours, I have mine.
A man is judged not by his money, background, etc., but by how he treats
other human beings.
Like everyone else on this site, I enjoy the women in the DR, and I also enjoy (and to some extent take advantage of) the lower prices for sex there.

That said, I would not want to be trapped in the miserable life that they are, and I see no reason to cry over a few bucks when the money makes a much bigger difference in their lives than it does in mine (or yours).

There is no "us" and "them", this isn't a win or lose situation.
There is no reason that both parties involved can't benefit.

Contrary to what some may believe,
"The one who dies having exploited the most people does NOT win."

All the points I made earlier are valid ones:

The fact that a sex worker earns more than a teacher, fireman, etc. is irrelevant.
Don't know why some people raise that issue, unless its a convenient excuse to try to pay even less.

A sex worker in the US also earns more than teachers, firemen, etc.

Are you seriously expecting her to charge you the minimum wage per hour?

A teacher or fireman (or doctor):

Won't give you a BJ.

Won't have sex with fat, ugly, old, or obnoxious and abusive types looking to take advantage of poverty.

Won't risk a wide variety of STD, or pregnancy.

Won't risk violence or physical abuse.

Bottom Line: A sex worker earns her money.

[QUOTE=Rover2]Yeah man but this is a monger site and we are advocating the monger position that a sex worker in a 3rd world country shouldn't be being paid 60% + of what a U. S. Sex worker gets when other "skilled" and unskilled workers get paid 20% of what a comparable U. S. Worker recieves.

Thats what we are advocating here and if you want the putas to get more you should go open a ***** site and organize the putas and help them form a trade union and shit.

After reading your post I'm sure they would vote you in as president or at least spokesperson.[/QUOTE]


Amigo,
Just pointing out the facts on the subject of what one pays for sex in the DR and whether that is “too much.”

Since what is “right or wrong” is likely to be of no interest to some,
let’s do some basic math.

1300 pesos (34 pesos to 1 dollar) = $38 US.
$38 dollars is 60% of $63 dollars.
(Where are you getting full service sex in the US for $63 dollars, amigo?)

And yet, if you check, you'll find that food, electricity, clothes, etc, are the same cost (or even more) than in the US.

A sex worker gets paid more based on simple supply and demand.

Basic laborers or employees in the DR make around 2 to 3 dollars an hour.

If the pay were the same – (or even close) how many women would be willing to give a BJ to your nasty ass (or mine) when she could get the almost the same pay for a decent job?
A chica is willing to do so, and for that she expects to be paid for her services.

Remember too, that this is not “regular work” with a predictable paycheck.
There are “dry spells” with no money coming in, but the kids still have to be fed.

No amigo, the chicas earn their money.

a theory of comparitive p4p market prices.

marcanthony's law:

"a "base level" sex worker in any economy earns about what a healthy man can make as a days pay for unskilled or semi-skilled physical labor: in exchange for a single sex act."

currently-
in the us that's about $100
in the dr it's about $12 or 400 pesos.

you say those prices are too low? i said a "base level" sex worker. by that i mean an average 18-35 female with no special skills or knowledge of the market, and in an "average location" not a resort area or a wealthy area. lots of the traffic on the usa sex guide is for less than $100. i know for a fact this is true of cities in the midwest. i'd identify a street crack ho as sub-base earning $20-$60. crack hos in the dr are also sub-base earning only a couple hundred pesos per sex act. i also know that expats and dominican guys pay about 400 or 500 pesos.

in the us, healthy illegal aliens (mostly mexican) on a daily pick-up basis are paid about $100 cash for a days unskilled or semi-skilled work.
in the dr, healthy illegal aliens (mostly haitian) on a daily pick-up basis are paid about 400 pesos cash for a days unskilled or semi-skilled work.


starting from these rates, there are increases for various market factors like being in a resort or high income area with more customers and more disposabe income. in manhattan, a girl with skills can make 2 to 5 times the us base. so too, in sosua or places in santo domingo, a girl can make 3 to 7 times the dr base.

posters have already identified a lot of factors that would shift this pattern from market to market. the various "costs" of doing business may include the risk of pregnancy, of being arrested, of being raped, beaten or killed, the risk of social ostracism, etc. the markets account for differences in these risks pretty well.

Anyone had the breakfast at New Garden or Europa?

Are they basic or better.

[quote=marc anthony]a theory of comparitive p4p market prices.

marcanthony's law:

"a "base level" sex worker in any economy earns about what a healthy man can make as a days pay for unskilled or semi-skilled physical labor: in exchange for a single sex act."

currently-
in the us that's about $100
in the dr it's about $12 or 400 pesos.

you say those prices are too low? i said a "base level" sex worker. by that i mean an average 18-35 female with no special skills or knowledge of the market, and in an "average location" not a resort area or a wealthy area. lots of the traffic on the usa sex guide is for less than $100. i know for a fact this is true of cities in the midwest. i'd identify a street crack ho as sub-base earning $20-$60. crack hos in the dr are also sub-base earning only a couple hundred pesos per sex act. i also know that expats and dominican guys pay about 400 or 500 pesos.

in the us, healthy illegal aliens (mostly mexican) on a daily pick-up basis are paid about $100 cash for a days unskilled or semi-skilled work.

in the dr, healthy illegal aliens (mostly haitian) on a daily pick-up basis are paid about 400 pesos cash for a days unskilled or semi-skilled work.

starting from these rates, there are increases for various market factors like being in a resort or high income area with more customers and more disposabe income. in manhattan, a girl with skills can make 2 to 5 times the us base. so too, in sosua or places in santo domingo, a girl can make 3 to 7 times the dr base.

posters have already identified a lot of factors that would shift this pattern from market to market. the various "costs" of doing business may include the risk of pregnancy, of being arrested, of being raped, beaten or killed, the risk of social ostracism, etc. the markets account for differences in these risks pretty well.[/quote]should the act of sex for pay really be so difficult??

i think all these quotes of market rate and what's fair or being thought of as a fool for paying too much are really quite irrevelant.

now all these comments are very good if one actually cares about how he is regarded for paying for sex. a fool, cheap, etc by other men's opinions he cares nothing about.i have never traveled to a foreign country to ask a stranger his thoughts on what i pay a women for sex.

i travel to foreign countries to get out of the usa. the bonus yes is the availabilty of paid noncomittal sex.

boards like this are great for finding places to stay and eat but for the treatment of women , forget it.

i like the idea of dating and knowing the sex will be there at the end of the night if i chose.

i like the idea of relaxing for days on the beach doing nothing and knowing sex is available when the urge hits.

i don't talk money first and most of the times not at all.

i don't chase the 10's and stay away from the aggresive ones.

chemistry and fun are whats important to me.

but it sounds like from some of these reports you need a calculator to barter a deal before the peso soars or sinks against the dollar.

i just have fun ,spend when and what i want and not take it serious .

this comparing what one should pay to what one earns on a another job is just too much work.

besides i'm on paid vacation when i travel , so it's like my clone is back in the states still working while i'm having the time of my life .if i can't afford to spend it i'd stay home.

nowrath

Wall street is about advice that can influence decisions. I'm just offering some observations about the puta biz for entertainment, and any seriousness in tone is not intended seriously. I was however curious if anyone with experience of other countries had noticed any price patterns like this.

People should of course spend their money however they like.

The DR and other developing countries if you spend any time in them, do raise your level of awareness of bargaining and prices. Every day is full of small negotiations and games over price that everyone plays hard at. I get the sense from most of these that there is a big distinction made between conscious generosity and being taken. I've come to work at bargaining well and trying to get a good deal and then often being deliberately generous afterwards, especially in ongoing relationships.

It may seem sexist, but in my experience, most DR chicas have no respect for a man they find easy to push around or who is easily taken. I have more than once seen that being demanding, not tolerating attitude, saying no, and other sorts of putting a chica "in her place" has produced dramatic improvements in a chicas behavior toward me.

On the other hand, if you meet a cute chica and you don't want to spend time and effort, a little extra dinero can be well worth spending.

[QUOTE=Nowrath]Should the act of sex for pay really be so difficult??

I think all these quotes of market rate and what's fair or being thought of as a fool for paying too much are really quite irrevelant.

Now all these comments are very good if one actually cares about how he is regarded for paying for sex. A fool, cheap, etc by other men's opinions he cares nothing about.I have never traveled to a foreign country to ask a stranger his thoughts on what I pay a women for sex.

I travel to foreign countries to get out of the USA. The bonus yes is the availabilty of paid noncomittal sex.

Boards like this are great for finding places to stay and eat but for the treatment of women , forget it.

I like the idea of dating and knowing the sex will be there at the end of the night if I chose.

I like the idea of relaxing for days on the beach doing nothing and knowing sex is available when the urge hits.

I don't talk money first and most of the times not at all.

I don't chase the 10's and stay away from the aggresive ones.

Chemistry and fun are whats important to me.

But it sounds like from some of these reports you need a calculator to barter a deal before the peso soars or sinks against the dollar.

I just have fun ,spend when and what I want and not take it serious .

This comparing what one should pay to what one earns on a another job is just too much work.

Besides I'm on paid vacation when I travel , so it's like my clone is back in the states still working while I'm having the time of my life .If I can't afford to spend it I'd stay home.

Nowrath[/QUOTE]


That attitude sounds about right.

People should use common sense (after a few drinks??) and not be stupid with their money, but there should no reason to get their panties in a twist over a couple of bucks.

Just be sensible.
If you're getting good value for your money, especially compared to the prices back home (sorry, not into addict streetwalkers) then chill and try to enjoy the vacation without taking a calculator out of your pocket for every transaction.