Chiang Mai

[QUOTE=ArthurTick;2232423]Visited Vietnam last February and couldn't believe how much more that has to offer than Chiang Mai. Girls were approaching me on their motorbikes in the street offering themselves and I took several back to my hotel room during my stay, FS on average 1000 baht for the whole night. Next year going to try out Cambodia, heard it's a monger paradise there.[/QUOTE]Have you written up more details in the Vietnam section. I was in Hanoi (with wife, not married now. Thankfully) and I have a keen eye and saw none of this. Might be worth a diversion for variety's sake.

Thanks Zeus9 for your insight. I have zeroed in on Celeb, Dolphin for now and may be few on Loi Kroi Road. No time for picking a girl in bar & barfine. Also just for my info, is Art Mai Nimman hotel guest friendly, can I bring over a girl to the room without any eyebrows raised.

I would surely look into getting a motorbike as I do have a license and if taking a taxi or tuk tuk will go to nearby places rather than going to the correct address.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.

[QUOTE=Zeus9;2231307]I was just there in early August for 5 days. I have never run into any of the mentioned brothels in Chiang Mai, and from what I've read, I'm glad that I didn't give any of them a go. Seems like an ultra seedy experience. There are a handful (3) soapies, and I would give those a try. Sayuri is pretty inexpensive 1500-2500 baht and worth a go. You could have some lookers in there, or nothing much. It just depends on your timing. It's harder, and more expensive to get taxi's in Chiang Mai verses Bangkok. I wold download the Grab app if you want to take taxi's in Chiang Mai. If you are confidant on a motorbike, and have an international bike license; then I would suggest renting a motorbike to get around as it's quick and easy to park anywhere.

You are also in Nimman, which is a nice area for food and cafe's. But you are probably 10 min. From the center of most of the action in CM. Your other options are beer bars in the Loi Kroh Road. Area, and the the boxing complex beer bars on the same road. I hang out in beer bars because it's entertaining for me, but it usually takes some work to find a girl I would bar fine. There are some bars where you could pick up Freelancers, but I'll let you look those up yourself.

I've had most of my success finding girls on Thai Friendly. Last time I visited I started messaging a girl on TF while I was in the airport at Bangkok waiting to board my flight for Chiang Mai. I was meeting her for dinner and drinks that same night. She was staying in my room that night. I spent most of my week with her, even though I stopped by Sayuri, beer bars, and a massage parlour in my freetime. But I fucked the TF girl for free everyday. She was a pretty heavy squirter with huge tits for such a short girl. So I tried to get as much time in with her as possible. She didn't ask for any money, I just paid for food and drinks while we were together. She had a good job as a teaching assistant in an international school, but I had the feeling that she wouldn't mind a sponsor either.

If anyone is interested in Massage place that I picked up extras in, then I can provide the location even though it's a bit tricky. They had mid 20's girls that were actually pretty attractive. The shop was in pretty decent shape also, but there were no private rooms as far as I could tell. The showers were available and clean with pretty hot water. The girl I chose was chatty and had a fun personality. She seemed interested in going to Tawandaeng later, but I had other things to tend to.[/QUOTE]

Well I would vouch for Vietnamise girls. They are very pretty and the service provided by them in SG brothers were no match. I had few regulars and nothing like getting a BBJ with CIM. Followed by good massage and another sex session. Fucking in the air was the best part as they are so light, you can surely lift them up to your liking and fuck all night, get turned on very fast and groping with clothes on is a really fun at another level rather than just go in there and strip naked.

Cheers.

YoJohnny.

[QUOTE=Mostek6502;2233081]Have you written up more details in the Vietnam section. I was in Hanoi (with wife, not married now. Thankfully) and I have a keen eye and saw none of this. Might be worth a diversion for variety's sake.[/QUOTE]

Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.

[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo;2234717]Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.[/QUOTE]Around the Thapae Gate area is where the street girls used to hang out, usually during the late hours, after 10.00 pm. It was possible to walk out your hotel room, go to that area and have a street girl in your bed within literally minutes, from about 300 to 400 baht short time. A few of my mates used to hire 3 girls at one time. For 2000 baht it was possible to have an orgy involving 6 girls.

But over time these girls have been cleared away by the police and now replaced by freaky ladyboys that hide in the shadows and pounce on males as they walk by.

Some of those girls were under aged and 3 years ago the police conducted a sting operation in that area. Police disguised as tuk tuk drivers or in plain clothes would wait for for any unsuspecting Farang to try and pull one of the girls, then they pounced, Farang taken to jail. Many of the under aged girls did look older.

Unfortunately you won't find any online either no matter how hard you look.

So from the report I just read then, there are no freelancers to be found in Chiang Mai? No place to go where they might generally hang out?

[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo;2234717]Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.[/QUOTE]If you would go to Chiang Mai, surely you would not be going there for sex mongering purposes. Could be better to take a hot girl there with you (my normal practice). Does not mean there is nothing, just every limited, and maybe like Arthur says, too much effort for low reward. I have visited Chiang Mai several times over many years, and tried very few girls there, some in the Soapies.

There are certainly posts giving you some details further down this thread. Why not use that info?

[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo;2236167]So from the report I just read then, there are no freelancers to be found in Chiang Mai? No place to go where they might generally hang out?[/QUOTE]Basically that's about it. Some years ago there were a couple of discos that were renowned for picking up freelancers, but I've heard even those have faded away, unless of course anyone has information to the contrary, but I doubt it.

It may be worth trying the Tapae Gate area late at night, you might be lucky and stumble across the odd real female freelancer, being careful that any girl you pull may not be as she seems and have some dangly bits between it's legs. Also as I said previous; be aware of police jailbait stings down there with under aged girls.

Another point that if some of the skank from the Loi Kroh Road bars have had a slow night, once the bars close after midnight the odd ones do approach guys in the streets around that area, but very hit and miss.

Not sure about Spicy or even if that's still open. Does anyone have any up to date information on that? What about Zoe in Yellow, is that still good for picking up freelancers? Heard that's also become a dead loss.

The Raspberry Spa is another one of those glorified HJ so-called B2B massage parlours, only with this one I've received reports that full sex is on offer.

It is located in, Tha Noot Pong Soi 2, which is a soi off the Superhighway opposite Bangkok Hospital.

I've been told that the standard package, so-called massage and HJ for about an hour maybe 70 minutes if lucky will cost from 1500 baht up to 2500 baht according to how they determine the attractiveness of the girls.

Full sex is on offer and a girl will be chosen for the task if having a discrete word with the receptionist requesting the full sex package. They don't openly advertise that FS is available and won't mention this unless you ask, probably concerned about the police getting wind of it and being shut down for running a brothel.

It will cost you the standard rate as I've mentioned above, plus around 3000 baht for the sex. So in total it could whack you back over 5000 baht for that package. I have not visited the Raspberry Spa and have no idea whether the sex will be inhibited or mechanical. My guess is that it will be. If you are young hansum man or willing to splash even more cash the girls may give that little bit extra.

If more of these glorified happy ending parlours do have discrete FS on offer, and I guess many of them do, then this will give a rough guide to how much cash it`s going to set you back.

Welcome to Chiang Mai, where supply and demand sets the price.

Its true Chiangmai is not Bangkok but it's not true you can't have a good time there and I am no newbie from Muskogee, living in Bangkok for the past 20 years. I was recently there for 3 nights 4 days and had a whale of a time. It's all down to expectations and the unexpected. Met a cute 22 year early on who wanted to stay with me, a well preserved MILF who wanted to live with me forever and an experience at a place called Aloha in the middle of nowhere that left me very happy. All were all in massage shops and frustratingly no I didn't keep names or actual locations. I would just say if you go there chill, wander around with an open mind and good things can happen.

Spent a few days in CM recently and checked on 2 places mentioned in the site below.

[URL]http://www.livingthai.org/massage-pa...hiang-mai.html[/URL]

Roong Fah Karaoke (Kampangdin Rd opp. O2 Gym) 1500 be for ST, 5000 be for LT, take out only. They have a car to take you and the girl to a nearby ST hotel or to your own hotel if it's nearby, the charge is only 50 be. I was staying at the Maninarakorn Hotel and they let me take the girl there. One manager speak a little English, the other none at all. There's no WiFi here so make sure you've downloaded Thai in Google Translate. The first time I walked in about 8 pm there were at least 2 stunners (8. 5/10) having their dinner. I stupidly thought more would arrive later but when I went back at 9:30 pm, there were only 2 average ones left (7.0 to 7.5/10). Beer and other drinks available, prices are the same as the beer bars. Forgot to ask what time they close. This will be my new fav hangout if I can walk in at 6 am and take one for a morning bonk: the.

Glass window brothel I think this place is closed, it's now an internet caf. Unless it's just a front!

Loi Kroh beer bars near the boxing ring 2500 be for LT, barfine 500 be (I think).

Saw many hotties (8.0 to 8.5/10) at Poppy Bar, Flash Bar and My Tirak 2 Bar (next to Starxix gogo). But I think most of these girls are only there to get drinks from the customers and aren't interested in ST or LT. I will normally check if the girl is interested in LT before I buy a second lady drink, all 6 girls I asked said they couldn't go for ST or LT for various reasons. I suppose it's possible they prefer handsome man, which I'm not! : the I eventually pulled a raunchy one with a challenging stare (6. 5 to 7.0/10) from Lollipop who turned out to be very enthusiastic. The girls I talked to at Flash Bar spoke good Chinese but couldn't speak much English, said they came from Pai? The girls at Poppy Bar and My Tirak 2 spoke English, but one could only speak Mandarin. So my guess is that these hotties are just there to extract drinks from the mainland Chinese tourists.

Beer bars opposite Mae Ping Hotel 2500 be for LT, barfine 300 be.

Girls are mostly 6. 0 /10 or lower, the one I took out was one of three there who was about 6. 5 to 7. 0/10. Better atmosphere, girls are less pushy about lady drinks.

The Spotlight Gogo bar is in a new location. Just open for a few months with younger sexy dancers that dance not doing the Bangkok shuffle. 3500 short time with a 700 baht bar fine. You can google the location. I walked from there back to the night plaza area along Loi Kroh road. At about 10 pm Near Thapae Gate, I was approached by a passable freelancer. There are a least a dozen ladyboys hiding in the shadows along the road. The bars were hopping and doing a fairly good business with lots of girls.

[QUOTE=Buksida1;2240567]The Spotlight Gogo bar is in a new location. Just open for a few months with younger sexy dancers that dance not doing the Bangkok shuffle. 3500 short time with a 700 baht bar fine. You can google the location. I walked from there back to the night plaza area along Loi Kroh road. At about 10 pm Near Thapae Gate, I was approached by a passable freelancer. There are a least a dozen ladyboys hiding in the shadows along the road. The bars were hopping and doing a fairly good business with lots of girls.[/QUOTE]WOW, that's 4200 baht short time, which is probably about an hour if lucky. Just prior to when Spotlight moved a friend was quoted 6000 baht for ST. Needless to say he passed on the offer.

Spotlight was at the old location for over 25 years, I personally knew the owners Hoss the German and Bob Crabtree who died several years ago. Bob was so rich that when he visited Bangkok he hired a helicopter to take him from the airport to his hotel that had a helicopter landing pad on it's roof.

Having now moved I guess business can't be so good, and with those prices it appears they have become pretty desperate.

This also sends the message that the girls are there mainly as hostesses to sell drinks and if customers want to buy a takeaway the girls are saying; we will go short time but couldn't care less one way or another, can't be bothered unless willing to pay us silly money for customers that are desperate or have more money than sense.

The problem is that these places are setting a precedent and once this starts others will soon follow suit and then the high prices become standard throughout the city wherever boom boom is on offer. They are taking advantage of the supply and demand situation in Chiang Mai, because these bars have virtually no competition. This is why I don't recommend Chiang Mai for mongering, it's very hard work, hit and miss and not good value for money.

Many of the young desirable girls are now working in the glorified HJ parlours and rip-off karaoke bars spread around the outskirts of the city. In those places it can set you back over 5000 baht for a quicky and in the karaoke bars the sky's the limit.

I don't believe most of the stories on here from certain posters telling us how they scored multiple times with stunning girls for practically nothing. Those who explain how hot these girls were but when it comes to giving us names and locations suddenly fall down with an acute case of amnesia. I also dare say that anyone who discovers a real gem in Chiang Mai, probably won't tell us and I don't blame them. But I have lived in CM for many many years and have lots of friends and contacts here. I consider myself as knowing every inch of the city and if there are gems hidden away somewhere, I can assure everyone I would soon find out about it and would give out the information.

[QUOTE=ArthurTick;2240677]WOW, that's 4200 baht short time, which is probably about an hour if lucky. Just prior to when Spotlight moved a friend was quoted 6000 baht for ST. Needless to say he passed on the offer.
[/QUOTE]This is more expensive than back in the land of OZ, and you can get very very good here for those prices.

Keep in mind that a teacher, accountant, mid level office girls make 12..15K baht a month, so these girls really have tickets on themselves asking this sort of money for ST

I meet girls on TF, and some don't even want money, they just want someone to take them out, make them feel special and they like us want a little it of jiggy jiggy too. I am not young or handsome. Treating the girls with respect and kindness pays back manyfold. Once a Thai girl reaches her late 20's she (and her family) considers herself a lost cause for marriage.

There is a good amount of contact available though other forums but you must be able to speak thai quite well (the web pages are in Thai) - I do not know them now, I saw them a year or so ago. As someone else said the University here is a very prestigious one and the students come from moneyed families.

[QUOTE=Mostek6502;2240963]This is more expensive than back in the land of OZ, and you can get very very good here for those prices.

Keep in mind that a teacher, accountant, mid level office girls make 12..15K baht a month, so these girls really have tickets on themselves asking this sort of money for ST

I meet girls on TF, and some don't even want money, they just want someone to take them out, make them feel special and they like us want a little it of jiggy jiggy too. I am not young or handsome. Treating the girls with respect and kindness pays back manyfold. Once a Thai girl reaches her late 20's she (and her family) considers herself a lost cause for marriage.

There is a good amount of contact available though other forums but you must be able to speak thai quite well (the web pages are in Thai) - I do not know them now, I saw them a year or so ago. As someone else said the University here is a very prestigious one and the students come from moneyed families.[/QUOTE]Right, it is also possible to find girls for that price in the UK and a lot cheaper advertised in the free advertising papers that are delivered free to homes every week. The back pages are loaded with them, young blonds, Indian and many choices.

I found the TF Chiang Mai section very limited for women that seem to be up for it, unlike the Bangkok and Pattaya sections where women openly advertise what they have on offer. But that's not really mongering is it? This is about chatting up women and trying to date them, so very hit and miss and a lot of work just in the hope of maybe getting a fuck, that applies anywhere not just in Chiang Mai.

Maybe some don't realize that 1000 baht is still a lot of money to a Thai. The minimum wage here is 300 baht per day, many Thais have to work long hours doing heavy work to earn that. I think these girls are taking the peeest and just looking for mugs. The sex industry in Chiang Mai has become greedy. They are not just squeezing the golden goose, but are in-fact killing it.