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After doing a lot of research, I'm interested in the concept of "leg massage" as it seems as it's a cost effective way of getting some touching, though clearly not FS. Is there anywhere members can recommend for this? Also, anywhere that won't break the bank for just a BBBJ (CIM optional)? I'm most likely doing a day trip to Macau while staying in HK, so I'm not looking for a spa to spend all day at.
Thanks in advance.
Prices in Macau seem to be insanely high when it comes to sauna experiences. I stayed at the Rio but when they told me how much it was I thought that no provider can be so good that this price is justified. I don't need the facilities, pools, etc. I need girls and a room and good service. So after doing some RTFF, I went to Darling 2 by taxi. According to my little market research, it is supposed to be one of the more affordable ones. The word cheap does not come over my lips in Macau. Inside, there were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, all from Vietnam. In average quite pretty. I hoped for some Chinese pussy because since the crackdowns in China I find it difficult to fuck nice young Chinese pussies. But OK, the Vietnamese also have light skin and fine looks. So I chose a slim, young one with a pretty face. Price per girl is 1.360 MOP or the same in HKD for a session of 70 minutes. We went to the room which are nice with a big bed and huge bathtub. She got naked while the bathtub was getting full and already liked me a bit when she asked whether I want to have two girls. The second one is MOP / HKD 550 and joins the full session. I agreed, the first threesome in my life and another think I can check off from my bucket list. Girl #2 came in, she was tall and slim. Her services were well performed but her attitude was not as good as the one of girl #1. There was sometimes something strange in her eyes and comments. Never mind, excellent BJ session with both girls in the tub, and on the bed both girls were very willing to be fucked in any position. When I fucked one, the other immediately started to lick me, play with my balls and ass or ears. Having a threesome looks good in the mirrors but in reality the second girl can also be a kind of distraction. And some time gets lost with changing the condoms when switching from one girl to the other. All in all a very satisfactory 70 minutes session with two beautiful and easygoing girls.
In case that I would repeat the threesome again, I would ask for it at the fishbowl and choose the second girl by myself. After the session girl #2 ask for tips white pushy. I gave 60 HKD each because the situation was strange. Normally I never tip. Perhaps some taxi money for an outcall, but that's it. All in all I think this is a good option in Macau, both price-wise and performance-wise. The threesome is not a must. It is a pity that they do not have Chinese girls but the overall performance, especially of girl #1, was very good. However, as you know, it does not even come close to the original Shanghai sauna experience. But I think also the Macau hotel saunas do not come close to that, as far as I learnt from the other posts.
Later in the evening I have seen some (Vietnamese) hookers in the Holiday Inn casino, near to the Rio Hotel. They were standing in groups between the Baccarat tables and were obviously not interested in the game. I did not ask for prices since they did not actively search eye contact or anything. I guess they waited for the some rich Chinese guys and not a "poor" Western guy. Perhaps I would have approached them if I had not already have a threesome two hours before.
Just in the middle of a two day trip to Macau and wanted to explore the Sauna scene, first night I went to Familia Nobre easy to find and the guy at the entrance up the stairs was very good talking through the menu services and prices. Facilities are good and once entering the changing area into the pool jacuzzi sauna area I was the only person using the sauna and it's great if you like a sauna highly recommend the cold pool after. Shower girls are cute one of them actually moved around when I took a shower and watched me which kind of turned me on.
Then down to the lounge reception where the girls will take your towel and give you a robe and slippers again kind of a turn on to just get naked in front of them but that's just me.
When I say in the sofa an older lady came over asked if I'the like some water followed by a younger care shortly after who asked if I'the like a massage showed me the menu and then took me to a side room.
She sat in front of me and then took the shorts of my legs spread them so they were on hers and then gave an oil massage to my legs and plenty on cock and balls, she did ask if she wanted to wank me off but then assisted with selecting a model for full service.
As we made our way to the corridor I'm estimating 30/40 girls a mixture of Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and about 5 Russian. Sit into prices for supermodel and Chinese and Japanese Korean higher priced. I was tempted by one of the Russians but found a stunning Chinese model which meant I paid a fuller fee.
She was pretty incredible shower laying down was fun and soapy with her breasts massaging me was good she sucked my cock give me a soapy tit job and then licked my body head to toe in short she very good at the service. We dried off and she prcedded to pay attention to my nipples sucking, licking and kissing then gave me a blow job swapped it up with some ice which was great and sucked each ball in her mouth looking me straight in the eye this was a great experience then we fucked which also was great.
It's not a cheap experience but don't go to Macau if that's what your after but it is a great experience total paid just over 4000 hk dollar I went about 7.30 pm.
That night I went out to a club D2 to meet a girl I met on tinder who seemed up for it, there were plenty girls there who I'm pretty sure if approached would be up for some and bonus was a naked strip show about 2. 30 am. I left and as Darling 1 was opposite my hotel I went over there at that time in the day I didn't expect much obviously so was met with 4 Vietnamese and 3 Chinese think he said Vietnamese 1600 and Chinese 1800.
Picked a Vietnamese girl who seemed cute, once in the room she asked me to take my clothes off starts to run the bath then came over to start sucking my cock, she had no limits let me finger her pussy and her arse and then wanted me to fuck her, we had a great fuck then took me to the bath washed me nothing special to be honest then asked me to fuck her again, don't know if that's normal or I just got lucky she just seemed to love getting fucked and fingered.
Looking to go somewhere today leaning towards Rio was trying to find out more about big boss or other saunas so all in all familia Nobre is well worth it just spend time there and relax.
[QUOTE=Alfonsostronzo;2346365]Prices in Macau seem to be insanely high when it comes to sauna experiences. I stayed at the Rio but when they told me how much it was I thought that no provider can be so good that this price is justified. I don't need the facilities, pools, etc. I need girls and a room and good service. So after doing some RTFF, I went to Darling 2 by taxi. According to my little market research, it is supposed to be one of the more affordable ones. The word cheap does not come over my lips in Macau. Inside, there were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, all from Vietnam. In average quite pretty. I hoped for some Chinese pussy because since the crackdowns in China I find it difficult to fuck nice young Chinese pussies. But OK, the Vietnamese also have light skin and fine looks. So I chose a slim, young one with a pretty face. Price per girl is 1.360 MOP or the same in HKD for a session of 70 minutes. We went to the room which are nice with a big bed and huge bathtub. She got naked while the bathtub was getting full and already liked me a bit when she asked whether I want to have two girls. The second one is MOP / HKD 550 and joins the full session. I agreed, the first threesome in my life and another think I can check off from my bucket list. Girl #2 came in, she was tall and slim. Her services were well performed but her attitude was not as good as the one of girl #1. There was sometimes something strange in her eyes and comments. Never mind, excellent BJ session with both girls in the tub, and on the bed both girls were very willing to be fucked in any position. When I fucked one, the other immediately started to lick me, play with my balls and ass or ears. Having a threesome looks good in the mirrors but in reality the second girl can also be a kind of distraction. And some time gets lost with changing the condoms when switching from one girl to the other. All in all a very satisfactory 70 minutes session with two beautiful and easygoing girls..[/QUOTE]Thanks, good report. I did the duo before, waste of money. Often times, the girls are more restrictive during duos as they don't want to get accused of being 'WG'. Funny right?
I have never tipped the ladies in Macau. Only time I tip is for the mamasans at the nightclubs.
Think you did well going with the Vietnamese. Many of the light skin ones have Chinese blood anyway. For a western guy, some Chinese ladies actually take advantage and give subpar service.
For the hookers, it's just a quick session whereby they're done once you come. Oftentimes, it's CBJ. Lots of them at Venetian too when I went last time. You can also try wechat.
Having been to Macau no less than 60 x, I found that the small massage shops with Viet girls are the best bang for the buck and will come to your hotel for GFE as well. Cost me 800 to 1000 MOP. After reading what saunas are charging now, I remember the good old days a Familia Nobre for 800 MOP special.
PC out.
Can you provide your recommendations on which small massage shops you prefer?
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;2350445]Having been to Macau no less than 60 x, I found that the small massage shops with Viet girls are the best bang for the buck and will come to your hotel for GFE as well. Cost me 800 to 1000 MOP. After reading what saunas are charging now, I remember the good old days a Familia Nobre for 800 MOP special.
PC out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;2350512]Can you provide your recommendations on which small massage shops you prefer?[/QUOTE]Walk around the area around the Ferry Mall. Also, always Houva across the garden from Royal Hotel.
The Viet places are the best bet though. Not going to any Saunas now, shit these prices are fucking stupid....
PC out.
Last trip to Macau I reported that Holiday Spa was closed, well it's open again. Looks like someone paid the bills.
In fact, as a 'budget' Sauna, I found it rather good.
Staff have a nice vibe. On the two visits I just made, on both occasions was told "new boss, very nice".
[QUOTE=TravelLucid;2242829]Flying visit. Thanks CX for an unexpected cheap flight offer. Stayed at the Holiday Inn (not the Cotai one). Not expensive and convenient. But do not bother with the restaurant or swimming pool.
Holiday Spa was shut. Notices outside seems to be notifying of facility turn-off, so someone maybe not paying the bills. (My Portuguese is nill, and my Mandarin even worst.) So if this was not temporary, RIP Holiday Spa. And Windsor Spa for those that remember.
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[QUOTE=Rich888;2237517]Despite the girl (Nina 808) being the best I have had for many a year
Nina was beautiful and had the most amazing breasts considering her petite size. Not too large but firm, round, perfectly shaped and real. A nice smile, some conversation (she is from Hanoi in Vietnam) and so enthusiastic. She was also nicely trimmed rather than being too hairy.[/QUOTE]If she's the same Nina I enjoyed in East Spa a few years ago then I know exactly what you mean. She was 70 back then.
My Nina was hanging around near the changing rooms and looked so pretty in her uniform despite the harsh lighting. If I'd met her in other circumstances I think I would have ruined everything and asked her to marry me within minutes. What can I say I was "young" and in love.
During and especially after the session I thought East Spa was the best place on earth ever.
I tried to have a second session with her the same evening but she wasn't in the showtime line up any more. I went back to East two days later and asked for her by number. Manageress Sarah said something that I think was the girls change numbers all the time.
I went back to East a few more times over a few years but sadly never saw Nina again. Every time I returned East Spa went down in my rankings. It's not great when the best part of the visit was chatting to the ladies in the outer changing areas.
As I have said elsewhere Nina Vietnam was awesome but my general experience of East Spa much less so and getting worse each time.
To make up for the disappointment of no more Nina I tried the AV package. It promises much as the lady turns up in a leather outfit with a small whip but she takes it off almost immediately once in the room. Part of the package is an all sorts of BBBJ done with a variety of materials. Included is some kind of chewy candy but it wasn't at all erotic. I usually did AV sessions over all my visits in case it went wild. It never did. The last time my Chinese girl opened all the candies and ate them all. She said she liked them. I noticed.
Another session I picked the air stewardess fantasy but the girl didn't have all the uniform and like AV took it off almost immediately once in the room. I was hoping she'd at least wear the hat. But she didn't turn up with one. I did ask and she disappeared for what seemed like forever but did come back with a hat of some sort. It looked more like a fast food hat than cabin crew. Waste of money and especially time.
East had multiple lounges. One is VIP only and is behind closed doors. The first lounge I name the arrivals lounge as it is for men who haven't been with a girl yet. After your session you are returned to the second lounge which I name the departure lounge. There are no shows in there. Shows are in the arrivals lounge and maybe the VIP I don't know. The arrivals lounge has maybe 40 beds so if you go when it's busy on a weekend and you are not a VIP or look like super rich Asian then you will be put straight to the departure lounge. It happened to me twice. If it happens to you then immediately after a show go to the arrivals lounge and grab a seat. Don't let the staff put you back in the departure lounge. They tried that with me.
No I wasn't drunk. Yes I was cleanly showered and always polite. When in Asia I call everyone sir just in case they are ladyboys.
Both the arrival and departure lounges are filled with staff who will pester you for massages. It's hard to order food and drink in the departure lounge as the waitresses don't visit it very often. Even harder to send the order back because they brought you the wrong thing.
On two visits I was met with some resistance when I tried to return to the arrivals lounge even though both times I went ahead and took a second session.
Manageress Sarah was very nice but only saw her my first two times. The second visit when I first arrived she said I looked very tired and said I should go to the sleeping area first. They have two dormitory rooms filled with fat old guys who do awesome chain saw impressions. Each dorm has a bathroom with a shower that doesn't work and a toilet that doesn't flush. There are bottles of drinking water. Each bunk has a mini safe which should contain a packet of ear plugs. These are essential if you have any amount of hearing.
I met Sarah at the payment desk on my way out and she gave me a coupon for a discount next time.
The other managers were unhelpful. After the show there is a cattle market where guys are yelling girls numbers out and managers are coupling people up in descending order of volume or wealth. If you don't speak Chinese you are ignored until the end. There should be some ladies left but probably not the ones you liked.
The shows such as they are have been described before. Vietnamese and the shorter Chinese girls spend a minute or so on your lap before moving to the next station. I don't consider these girls to be low end, some of them are beautiful and others gorgeous but the marketing and local culture considers Viet and South Chinese to be the least desirable.
If the arrivals lounge is full and it probably is because it is small then there won't be enough Viet and South China girls to go around. Although shows are about every 90 minutes it always seemed that I was the guy who missed out on the sample BBBJ. I don't know why. The girls know how many beds they will visit in the show and so some of them must have been calculating. In one show though the manager moved some girls which meant I was denied the finale but the Chinese weren't. I guess they were regulars or customers they were hoping to be. I understand but it was still disappointing to be left out.
You can imagine my happiness then when one time all the customers in the arrivals were sent out to the spa area for a special blow job round. I'm nervous at the best of times so deciding where to stand was a worry. I did what I was recommended in my school days for success at the school dance and stood next to the ugliest guy to make me look better. I was pleased with my tactics until the shorts came off. Not all Asian guys are small. This guy may have been short of stature in some ways but he also a three legged stool. Lesson learnt.
The circle that sucked was followed by a special deal for something called Queen Bathing. I had no idea what it was so I asked a manageress. Just my luck to get the one with almost no voice. I eventually figured out from trying to lip read in the semi dark that if you took a girl you got a free bathing session first. But it took so long to figure out that all the good girls were gone. Also it was an all in bathing session. I really didn't like the idea of sharing one bath with 50 sweaty men so I passed.
There were many things I didn't like about East. The final visit probably my fifth or sixth was particularly annoying. Ignored by the managers every show, missed out in the shows, every food and drink item initially came wrong, when I did get the correct food it was often taken away before I'd finished. The air stewardess wasting time looking for a hat although the rest of the session was decent. The first session was AV and the girl was constantly stopping to eat the candy. To be fair the Chinese girls were otherwise decent service and I found both very attractive which is why I picked them.
The final straw was paying. I'd had two cosplay sessions which came to well over 5000 MOP and yet there two lots of 17 MOP or some such silly numbers at the bottom of the slip. I asked what they were and was told condom charges. It just seemed stupid all round. Stupid of them to put a trivial amount on a big total and stupid of me to complain about it. But it's just the way the experience had made me. Normally I don't care.
I thought I'd never go back but if the same Nina is back.
On Google Maps, I noticed there seem to be 2 "Royal Hotel" in about the same location, with slightly different wording.
Do you happen to have any link for this Houva spot? I can't find it in any map findings.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;2350916]Walk around the area around the Ferry Mall. Also, always Houva across the garden from Royal Hotel.
The Viet places are the best bet though. Not going to any Saunas now, shit these prices are fucking stupid....
PC out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;2361203]Do you happen to have any link for this Houva spot? I can't find it in any map findings.[/QUOTE]I think the silence from most members means they'd like you to try harder to look for yourself.
I'm an old softie, mostly, so try the following internet search.
[QUOTE]google maps macau saunas and massage[/QUOTE]This should give a link to a custom map. It's old but some things are the same. Hou va is near Jardim Garden Vasco daGama.
Unless Hou va has improved its facilities then go for outcall. It's a few years since I've been but it stank of tobacco even worse than before the new management. The girl I took complained about it too. She insisted on keeping her hair tied up because it smelt of tobacco. I offered to shave her head military recruit style. Thinking about it now that might have ended our relationship as I never saw her again.
The previous female management spoke little English. The new male management spoke good English but the price had gone up and the smell had gotten worse. I preferred the old regime but that's just a sign of ageing. You don't have to read many threads on here to see that things were always better in the past.
If you do outcall and need a taxi then stand on the corner marked "seafood restaurant" Amaral / Henrique / Calcada. For some unknown reason the girls don't like standing right outside their office.
Or stay at the Royal Hotel and walk. If you are big spender VIP customer with the right connections maybe they will let you use their underground gold plated moving walkway tunnel direct between Hou vu and Hotel. The "tunnel of love" is the stuff legends.
At least one piece of information in this guide is fictional to encourage members to do some research. This is left as an exercise for the reader and should be taken in good humor.
I greatly appreciate the map suggestion and that does help immensely. In terms of RTFF and research, I've done more than I care to admit, the issue is much of it is either outdated or conflicting.
The "sauna" concept is not something that exists in the USA and doesn't seem to exist in many Asian countries at all, that's why this has me curious for details.
[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;2361771]I think the silence from most members means they'd like you to try harder to look for yourself.
I'm an old softie, mostly, so try the following internet search.
This should give a link to a custom map. It's old but some things are the same. Hou va is near Jardim Garden Vasco daGama.
Unless Hou va has improved its facilities then go for outcall. It's a few years since I've been but it stank of tobacco even worse than before the new management. The girl I took complained about it too. She insisted on keeping her hair tied up because it smelt of tobacco. I offered to shave her head military recruit style. Thinking about it now that might have ended our relationship as I never saw her again.
The previous female management spoke little English. The new male management spoke good English but the price had gone up and the smell had gotten worse. I preferred the old regime but that's just a sign of ageing. You don't have to read many threads on here to see that things were always better in the past..[/QUOTE]
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.
I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.
I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.
Rio.
I stayed in the hotel at Rio, which had everything to do with its famous sauna. The hotel is actually quite good and the best cheap, decent-quality option in the area. Amusingly it's located right next to the PLA military base skyscraper; wonder if the sauna has anything to do with that.
After a really long series of flights, I needed to sleep a bit but decided first to see the sauna floor. I went to the floor, walked in, and walked out, despite them begging me to go inside haha. But I needed the sleep!
Later I went inside, my first time in any Macau sauna. I was quite nervous. The thing where you change in the locker room I didn't like, but I already knew about that. I just faced the corner and did it quickly. Also you'll see other men walking around naked. I knew about that too, so I just averted my eyes and didn't look, and it went okay.
I first went and got a Turkish bath, not knowing fully what it was. It was very nice, and the girl was from Thailand. She washed me thoroughly with warm water and soap. I groped her and her breasts a bit and she was okay but not willing to go too far. She said she wasn't one of the ones that had sex.
I saw a hot pool with a man inside. There may have been a girl standing outside; I'm not sure if there were any services related to the pool. Next time I'll find out.
I then went and had a Vietnamese girl wash my feet and two not-pretty Vietnamese women help me change. Both asked for and got tips, although the ones who changed my clothes didn't really deserve it.
Then I was in the seated area and gathered my bearings. The assistants who do massages are mainly Vietnamese and in their late 30's and 40's. I asked one to do a hand massage. Apparently hand massages are supposed to be very firm and painful. I told her not to do that. So she softly massaged my hands, while telling me in dissatisfaction that the real thing was much more painful haha.
The line-up was called (I think it comes every 20 minutes) and I came out to see the girls come. It was just like the videos you see on YouTube, and for a moment I just stood amazed that I was actually standing in real-life in a line-up able to fuck any of these beautiful women. For the first line-up I just observed and saw how things went.
The second time I tried to see which girls smiled and held my gaze. I picked a beautiful tall Chinese model. Then she held my hand and we walked hand-in-hand. She left and I sat in a bar near the back, waiting. A male assistant guided me to the room and tried to upsell some strange type of condom and a milk bath, which I rejected.
The girl walked in and we stripped. Then she washed me and we had a soapy massage. It was very nice. I had purposely not masturbated for several weeks, so I had to deliberately pinch myself several times to prevent from an unwanted early pop. Then she kissed me all over and gave me a BBBJ, while I held her hands. She wasn't happy when I grabbed her breasts though and told me to do it lighter.
Then she dried me and we went to the bed and had sex. I think we did cowgirl, doggy, and then missionary. Then I popped inside this beautiful woman. I remember she was quite impressed by the amount of cum.
Afterwards I actually had a bad case of refractory period. She asked if I wanted a second round (seems that is common) and seemed surprised when I said no. So instead she gave me a normal massage while I lay on the bed, both of us naked. Then we walked out, my arm around her waist. I felt quite nice but guilty at the same time (especially seeing her excited to return to the line-up, which was just ending).
Total: 4646 pataca.