Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2652350]So I wonder what are the doctor's criteria to determine that you are safe.[/QUOTE]For better or worse, The CDC shorten its isolation period for COVID positive people to 5 days if you meet certain criteria. Here is the full guideline. You can travel on day 6 but recommended to wait until after 10 days. You will need a letter From a healthcare professional stating that your isolation period ended or you are safe to travel.

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They had a full house 11 pm watching Rams beat down Cards. Talent was a mess. Looked like the LA CA stroll. Pure sausage fest. Quality was way down from 2 years ago. A lot of the patrons thought they were hard cause they were 4 deep and wearing cheap outfits. Tons of people on beach but I took a very short Uber ride for safety.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2652290]In recent years I have seen the super bowl in Mabs, the Marriott hotel bar and lord jims pub in Ipanema if it's still open.[/QUOTE]Lord Jim jesus not been there for a while think it moved across the street good call.

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I connected with Vagabundo and Chege (another solid wingman) around 20 hrs in Uruguaiana for street food before taking the metro to Sao Cristovao station. We walked Rua Francisco Eugenio for a look at the SWs. I spoke to several, including my first SW on that route who didn't have kids. She's Gabriela, 20 yrs, morena, braces, a pretty girl. She asked for $r50 for 30 minutes plus $r15 for a nearby room. I took her number and moved on.

After arriving in VM around 21 hrs, we explored several casas, then made our way inside the horseshoe. I spoke to a slim morena named Chocolate, 22 yrs, no kids, who offered her services for $r70 for a half hour. We had just arrived, so I took her number, and we continued exploring the casas.

A few minutes later, Chege calls me from across the street to come over quickly. I arrive, and he points to a gorgeous black girl. Slim, firm body, all natural with a beautiful smile and great energy. A diamond in the rough. I wait for her to finish chatting with a local guy, then make my introduction. She is Cacau, 19 yrs, no kids. Her price is $r85 for 30 minutes. This girl is exactly my type (another shout-out to Chege), so I took Cacau for short term, and her program was excellent. Will see her again.

After finishing, I returned to the street and checked my phone. Vagabundo had gone home, and Chege had moved on to Zona Sul. He was in Copa. So I grabbed an Uber and met Chege at Mab's around 23 hrs. It was Monday night, and the place was full of tourists watching American football on a projection screen. Surrounding the gringos, standing against the walls, were girls waiting to be called over.

Everyone was focused on the game, so Chege and I decided to explore surrounding areas. We first arrived at a small lounge called Marrakech. I peeked inside and saw a handful of beautiful girls looking for company. I even recognized one morena as a passista from a samba school that I had visited last week. We talked for a few minutes, then Chege and I moved on to the next spot.

Around midnight, we arrived in Casablanca night club. After paying $r100 cover (with two drinks included), we entered the small club. About 20 girls were standing, sitting, and dancing. The girls were all blancas, except for one, and there were only about 7 guys. It was my first time in this club, and I was curious about the logistics and prices. So I asked several girls. Casablanca has rooms on site, and the girls are also available for take-away to your hotel / apartment. Prices last night ranged from $r400-500 for short term to $r1500-2000 for all night.

Chege and I had our two drinks, then we moved on to the next spot.

We arrived in Dolce Vita around 01 hrs. After paying a $r50 cover, we entered to discover the place was totally empty. Probably a combination of it being a Monday night and also the huge crowd watching the football game at Mabs. We didn't even stay for 5 minutes before leaving and going back to Mabs for some street action.

Upon arriving at Mabs, I noticed a slim morena crossing the street. So I approached and asked for her details. She's Raphaela, 28 yrs, no kids. Her prices were $r500 for short term and $r1000 for all night. I declined.

At that point, it was clear to both Chege and me that the night was over. We had hunted from VM to Copa, gathered some great intel, and were able to compare and contrast the two.

[B]Some Observations (These are all MY OPINIONS)[/B]
[LIST]Each of our mongering experiences depends on several factors such as: the amount of time we have available in the country, local language skills, comfort level in exploring different parts of the city, and ideal physical type of girls you like. There is no right or wrong way to monger. And there is no judgment for anyone who wants to go high-class, mid-class, or low-class with their spending. Each of us has a different preference, and to each his own. The benefit of a city like Rio is that there is something for everyone.[/LIST][LIST]No significant difference in [i]physical beauty[/i] between the high-quality girls I saw in VM and the high-quality I saw in Copa. Sure they dress differently. Girls in VM typically wear bikinis and flip flops, while girls in Copa wear skirts, blouses, and high heels. But in terms of physical beauty, you can find some absolute stunners in VM, and some average (at best) girls in the Copa clubs. It's also worth noting that I like dark-skin and natural (no silicone, light/no make-up, girl next door) which are more prevalent in Centro and VM.[/LIST][LIST]Copa's sex game has a tourist feel. The doormen, bouncers, servers, bar tenders, and some garotas speak English. In Casablanca, the TVs on the walls were blasting hip hop, and the vibe felt very much like an American night club. On the other hand, VM is unpolished, raw, and local.[/LIST][LIST]Many tourists in Copa are paying top price. At Mabs we saw lots of Americans, and I quickly understood why girls requested $r1500 for all night. It's because many tourists are paying it. The sex economy can become distorted in favor of the girls when too many gringos overpay for services. This is another benefit of going off the beaten tourist path. You will receive a better value for your money.[/LIST][LIST]Portuguese skills are important no matter where you go. It's been said again and again, learn basic Portuguese and your interactions will be more enjoyable. Even in Zona Sul. Learn to introduce yourself, to count, to ask questions about her age, number of kids, and birthplace. And learn to understand her responses. Language improves communication, which builds comfort with the girls, which results in a better overall experience.[/LIST]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2652350]So I wonder what are the doctor's criteria to determine that you are safe.[/QUOTE]It would be interesting to know the answer to your question. It seems like everybody here is just guessing. When somebody is going to do a check in at the airport, and wants to show he's recovered from covid-19, the check in staff won't just accept any piece of paper signed by a doctor.

Rule number one, everything to do with authorities in Brazil is supposed to be complicated.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2652590]
[LIST]Many tourists in Copa are paying top price. At Mabs we saw lots of Americans, and I quickly understood why [b]girls requested $r1500 for all night[/b]. It's because many tourists are paying it. The sex economy can become distorted in favor of the girls when too many gringos overpay for services. This is another benefit of going off the beaten tourist path. You will receive a better value for your money.[/LIST][/QUOTE]$1500 BRL = $269.93 USD no way is that worth all night. Who is overpaying this crazy amount?? Sheez. I could see $500 BRL for all night (plus or minus $100BRL) any more than that is not justifiable.

Unfortunately there is some fools that give into igh prices. This one reason so many girls are charging $100 min for anything. It was not to long ago that you could get a BJ for $40.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2652590]I connected with Vagabundo and Chege (another solid wingman) around 20 hrs in Uruguaiana for street food before taking the metro to Sao Cristovao station. We walked Rua Francisco Eugenio for a look at the SWs. I spoke to several, including my first SW on that route who didn't have kids. She's Gabriela, 20 yrs, morena, braces, a pretty girl. She asked for $r50 for 30 minutes plus $r15 for a nearby room. I took her number and moved on.

After arriving in VM around 21 hrs, we explored several casas, then made our way inside the horseshoe. I spoke to a slim morena named Chocolate, 22 yrs, no kids, who offered her services for $r70 for a half hour. We had just arrived, so I took her number, and we continued exploring the casas.

A few minutes later, Chege calls me from across the street to come over quickly. I arrive, and he points to a gorgeous black girl. Slim, firm body, all natural with a beautiful smile and great energy. A diamond in the rough. I wait for her to finish chatting with a local guy, then make my introduction. She is Cacau, 19 yrs, no kids. Her price is $r85 for 30 minutes. This girl is exactly my type (another shout-out to Chege), so I took Cacau for short term, and her program was excellent. Will see her again.

After finishing, I returned to the street and checked my phone. Vagabundo had gone home, and Chege had moved on to Zona Sul. He was in Copa. So I grabbed an Uber and met Chege at Mab's around 23 hrs. It was Monday night, and the place was full of tourists watching American football on a projection screen. Surrounding the gringos, standing against the walls, were girls waiting to be called over..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2652633]It would be interesting to know the answer to your question. It seems like everybody here is just guessing...[/QUOTE]It's based on research data. The virus still exist but don't replicate. I read about it last year. You should be able to google it to find out. Same way the PCR Ct value is determined.

First off, great Reports Chocolatehuntr. I thoroughly enjoy reading about your RJ adventures. These reports are both informative and highly entertaining. For example your latest one:

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2652590] I connected with Vagabundo and Chege (another solid wingman) around 20 hrs in Uruguaiana for street food before taking the metro to Sao Cristovao station. We walked Rua Francisco Eugenio for a look at the SWs. I spoke to several, including my first SW on that route who didn't have kids. She's Gabriela, 20 yrs, morena, braces, a pretty girl. She asked for $r50 for 30 minutes plus $r15 for a nearby room. I took her number and moved on.

After arriving in VM around 21 hrs, we explored several casas, then made our way inside the horseshoe. I spoke to a slim morena named Chocolate, 22 yrs, no kids, who offered her services for $r70 for a half hour. We had just arrived, so I took her number, and we continued exploring the casas.

A few minutes later, Chege calls me from across the street to come over quickly. I arrive, and he points to a gorgeous black girl. Slim, firm body, all natural with a beautiful smile and great energy. A diamond in the rough. I wait for her to finish chatting with a local guy, then make my introduction. She is Cacau, 19 yrs, no kids. Her price is $r85 for 30 minutes. This girl is exactly my type (another shout-out to Chege), so I took Cacau for short term, and her program was excellent. Will see her again.

After finishing, I returned to the street and checked my phone. Vagabundo had gone home, and Chege had moved on to Zona Sul. He was in Copa. So I grabbed an Uber and met Chege at Mab's around 23 hrs. It was Monday night, and the place was full of tourists watching American football on a projection screen. Surrounding the gringos, standing against the walls, were girls waiting to be called over.

Everyone was focused on the game, so Chege and I decided to explore surrounding areas. We first arrived at a small lounge called Marrakech. I peeked inside and saw a handful of beautiful girls looking for company. I even recognized one morena as a passista from a samba school that I had visited last week. We talked for a few minutes, then Chege and I moved on to the next spot.

Around midnight, we arrived in Casablanca night club. After paying $r100 cover (with two drinks included), we entered the small club. About 20 girls were standing, sitting, and dancing. The girls were all blancas, except for one, and there were only about 7 guys. It was my first time in this club, and I was curious about the logistics and prices. So I asked several girls. Casablanca has rooms on site, and the girls are also available for take-away to your hotel / apartment. Prices last night ranged from $r400-500 for short term to $r1500-2000 for all night.

Chege and I had our two drinks, then we moved on to the next spot.

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At that point, it was clear to both Chege and me that the night was over. We had hunted from VM to Copa, gathered some great intel, and were able to compare and contrast the two.

[B]Some Observations (These are all MY OPINIONS)[/B]
[LIST]Each of our mongering experiences depends on several factors such as: the amount of time we have available in the country, local language skills, comfort level in exploring different parts of the city, and ideal physical type of girls you like. There is no right or wrong way to monger. And there is no judgment for anyone who wants to go high-class, mid-class, or low-class with their spending. Each of us has a different preference, and to each his own. The benefit of a city like Rio is that there is something for everyone.[/LIST][/QUOTE]Now concerning your observations let me say that.

On Obs #1: I totally concur. We each of us have our own tastes & preferences as to girls, venues, and what we are willing to pay. In addition each us possesses varying skill levels, language abilities, and risk tolerances. There is no one way to punt that will satisfy all.

On Obs #2: There is overlapping quality levels among different venues. I am sure that the VM girl you describe above would fit right in at Solarium looks wise. But overall I personally prefer going to Solarium more often than going to VM for many reasons including the higher percentage of girls to my liking at Solarium resulting in an easier process of finding what I want although I will still occasionally visit VM for a change in scenery if for nothing else. But some places continually disappoint me with the quality of their girls and so I lose interest after a few visits. Mabs being a perfect example. I just never see girls there that I want to take home.

On Obs #3: I agree mostly with what you say about Copa's touristy feel, however, if by raw and unpolished you include fucking on dirty mattresses and stuff, you can count me out.

On Obs #4: 1500 br or higher for LT does seem high to me even if that is the going rate at a particular venue. This is one of the reasons I prefer ST. Plus most of the time I prefer to do 2 girls separately than the same girl twice or three times a night. But that is totally my preference. Anyone else is perfectly free to do it their way.

On Obs #5: Yes, I am sure you are right about the benefits of knowing the local lingo. But I am really bad on learning languages plus I am super lazy, so I am stuck with Google translate and miming body language. I still manage to get by and have plenty of good times with my Brazilian girls, because I am in good shape physically, have good hygiene, I know how to relate and be friendly to my girls, and I carry around a fat wallet. KKK. That's my ace in the hole. But, I am pretty sure I am paying a language fee for my deficiency. Oh well, that's life.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2652662]It's based on research data. The virus still exist but don't replicate. I read about it last year. You should be able to google it to find out.[/QUOTE]I know that, just as I wrote in my original post. What I wanted to know how it works in Brazil to get a medical certificate that shows that you have recovered and are OK to travel.

If somebody had experienced this issue it would be great to hear. Hobby doctors have told their point of view.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2652590]I connected with Vagabundo and Chege (another solid wingman) around 20 hrs in Uruguaiana for street food before taking the metro to Sao Cristovao station. We walked Rua Francisco Eugenio for a look at the SWs. I spoke to several, including my first SW on that route who didn't have kids. She's Gabriela, 20 yrs, morena, braces, a pretty girl. She asked for $r50 for 30 minutes plus $r15 for a nearby room. I took her number and moved on.

After arriving in VM around 21 hrs, we explored several casas, then made our way inside the horseshoe. I spoke to a slim morena named Chocolate, 22 yrs, no kids, who offered her services for $r70 for a half hour. We had just arrived, so I took her number, and we continued exploring the casas.

A few minutes later, Chege calls me from across the street to come over quickly. I arrive, and he points to a gorgeous black girl. Slim, firm body, all natural with a beautiful smile and great energy. A diamond in the rough. I wait for her to finish chatting with a local guy, then make my introduction. She is Cacau, 19 yrs, no kids. Her price is $r85 for 30 minutes. This girl is exactly my type (another shout-out to Chege), so I took Cacau for short term, and her program was excellent. Will see her again.[/QUOTE]Chocolatehuntr really deserves the Nickname.

Solid wingman and s spot on report! Just one thing, VM didn't appear to me as dangerous as I heard or imagined. Just raw with dome dirty places and strange smells. If you are into darker skinned girls a must visit place with some diamonds to find. And guys for real, a session for 15 USD at most, that for me is crazy.

I would recommend to go between 23:00 and 01:00, it seamed to me that this place starts really after 22:00.

I regret only goin to VM once during my trip last month, because I found 3 diamonds that didn't disappoint. My take is let that bad reputation stand so the average tourist will stay away. Almost nothing separates Mab's girls from the ones at V. M, but the selection at V. M. Has changed each time I have went and Mabs seems to have the same 15 ladies there every time. From the advice I gathered here on the board I started frequenting the massagems and damn! It was the perfect fit for me. Thanks for the intel but can I get any advice on massagems or termas for 35 why / o plus ladies?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2652216]How much did you pay her that week?[/QUOTE]I didn't have to pay her anything for her time for several reasons I've written in my lengthy SP write up.

We just had a really good chemistry and she felt comfortable with me. I literally booked her flight 8 hours before my SP to RJ flight so almost a spur of the moment type deal. I told her if she wanted to come along on my first night in SP but she was hesitant and told me she would think about it.

I guess my snake charming skills payed out. Originally we agreed to 5 days but I liked her company more than I thought and asked her for 2 more days and she agreed. She was a no fuss and no drama type of girl so I was lucky and felt like I was just taking my GF or Wife to Rio.

I know that there are some girls that do charge even if you take them to a nice destination spot. There's a girl named Duda in CL Prime in SP that has a agency that take care of her schedule and rates when sheik's want to fly her out to dubai for a quick weekend or month long trips and she's just one of many girls that do this. Then there are some girls who will happily go for what is essentially a free vacation to a place they otherwise would never go in their lifetime or much much later in their life if that.

She liked how I treated her because Brazilians are as romantic as a gift card for an oil change on valentine's day. As I was dropping her off she told me she never traveled with a client before and had a few chances before but declined and only went with me because she trusted me.

I did end up giving her 300 Brl before she left because she had a few things she needed to pay when she got back. She didn't ask her it tho.

Swooning a girl will take you far and it doesn't cost that much, it's more of the act than anything else.

Works for other things too. I've been able to get a first class ticket upgrade from my economy one by just buying some nice chocolates for the stewardess that greets you when you get on the plane.

You don't do it expecting to get something in return tho. You just do it to make other people happy and people are so shocked and thrown back by your kindness they usually want to do something in return to make you happy too. When you do good things, good things usually come back to you.

Learned that from a buddy from miami and it's great cycle to get into.

I personally like making other people happy.

It's where I got my username from. Bearsi means to "Delight In" in Italian.

There were days and weeks I would get it for free, but always it comes back to money when it is longer than just a few weeks.

Good write up, thanks.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2652745]I didn't have to pay her anything for her time for several reasons I've written in my lengthy SP write up.

We just had a really good chemistry and she felt comfortable with me. I literally booked her flight 8 hours before my SP to RJ flight so almost a spur of the moment type deal. I told her if she wanted to come along on my first night in SP but she was hesitant and told me she would think about it.

I guess my snake charming skills payed out. Originally we agreed to 5 days but I liked her company more than I thought and asked her for 2 more days and she agreed. She was a no fuss and no drama type of girl so I was lucky and felt like I was just taking my GF or Wife to Rio.

I know that there are some girls that do charge even if you take them to a nice destination spot. There's a girl named Duda in CL Prime in SP that has a agency that take care of her schedule and rates when sheik's want to fly her out to dubai for a quick weekend or month long trips and she's just one of many girls that do this. Then there are some girls who will happily go for what is essentially a free vacation to a place they otherwise would never go in their lifetime or much much later in their life if that.[/QUOTE]

Not much to add, except this.

The best girls I have met in my experience, which is getting longer (I wish I could go back to my first trip to Brazil) have been at Mosaico (and the now defunct Club Red Light).

This was in 2013.

Mosaico is where tier 1 terma girls go after they get done in Zona Sul, and the clients are mainly locals and so the pricing is much, much better. Even if you don't like VM, Mosaico is a must do. The DJ at 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after he gets done at 4 x 4. Enough said.

You need to bank some sleep, and plan your schedule accordingly, but Mosaico is worth the effort.

[QUOTE=Chege;2652706]Chocolatehuntr really deserves the Nickname.

Solid wingman and s spot on report! Just one thing, VM didn't appear to me as dangerous as I heard or imagined. Just raw with dome dirty places and strange smells. If you are into darker skinned girls a must visit place with some diamonds to find. And guys for real, a session for 15 USD at most, that for me is crazy.

I would recommend to go between 23:00 and 01:00, it seamed to me that this place starts really after 22:00.[/QUOTE]