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Are either of these books good and worth buying?

The Philippines Travel Guide - Jens Peters

A Man's Guide to Life and Love In the Philippines - Larry Elterman

Thanks.

Greetings

Any of you have tried to ask a girl to leave for a week the philippines? Is it even possible to wait for her in Honolulu and pay for her roundtrip? What are the risk?

[QUOTE=Manicure]Greetings

Any of you have tried to ask a girl to leave for a week the philippines? Is it even possible to wait for her in Honolulu and pay for her roundtrip? What are the risk?[/QUOTE]Most are going to have visa problems with the US.

Your best bet would be meeting them in SE Asia or HK if you don't want to go to ph.

[QUOTE=Manicure]Greetings

Any of you have tried to ask a girl to leave for a week the philippines? Is it even possible to wait for her in Honolulu and pay for her roundtrip? What are the risk?[/QUOTE]

The main issue would be getting hera visa for the US (or Europe). They can get visas for other poor Asian countries relatively easy but its expensive and a big hassle to get 1st world visas.

Thanks for the info, How expensive is a visa you think? and how long it takes? I am planning for Jan 2010 and hoping to advertise for the "position" Where should I advertise? Thank you for your time guys

[QUOTE=GregLondon]The main issue would be getting hera visa for the US (or Europe). They can get visas for other poor Asian countries relatively easy but its expensive and a big hassle to get 1st world visas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manicure]Greetings

Any of you have tried to ask a girl to leave for a week the philippines? Is it even possible to wait for her in Honolulu and pay for her roundtrip? What are the risk?[/QUOTE]

She can apply for a tourist visa at the U.S. embassy with documents including your sponsorship letter. Visa is no way guaranteed but you never know. Depends entirely on the person who interviews her. It is better if you give a letter stating that you are interested in marrying her rather than as a friend.
Frankly what is the point in taking her to Hawaii ?
Philippino girls do not make good travelloing companions except sex. They do not like western food and not used to the high lifestyle. Ofcourse I am not talking about girls from wealthy families who take vacations all the time.

[QUOTE=Manicure]Thanks for the info, How expensive is a visa you think? and how long it takes? I am planning for Jan 2010 and hoping to advertise for the "position" Where should I advertise? Thank you for your time guys[/QUOTE]
The odds on your obtaining a visa for some girl whom you barely know are between slim and none, and I would advise you not to waste your time and especially your money trying this route. First, you will have to demonstrate the longevity of your relationship and its stability, neither of which you will be able to do. Second, the young lady in question will have to demonstrate not only strong local ties, but financial resources, and it's doubtful that she will be able to accomplish the latter. Thirdly, no matter who interviews her the first time, eventually, she's going to get interviewed by an American consular official, and these folks are tough to fool; they've heard it all before countless times. There is simply zero chance that you will be able to get a tourist visa for some lady you don't really know.

GE

In going down this road, you will learn the reality of the USA Government abroad. They are not very helpful, in any way. Oh, maybe if you are surrounded by a boat load of pirates. But then they get to use their guns. The primary criteria the USA Embassy or consulate will seek is a compelling reason why the girl would return to the Philippines. Does she own land, or assets, does she have a job of significant stature that she would return. Not to disagree with another member, but a letter of sponsorship by you, might work to your disadvantage. As resident in the USA, in your letter, you would be giving a compelling reason for her not to return--ie. Be with you. It in fact states on the USA Immigration website, that officers are not to take such letters as evidence of her willingness to return. Read the USA Consulate in the Philippines website, it is very straighforward on your chances.

Let's take the example of a young girl, early twenties at most, no assets, no job, no money, no education, never left the Philippines before (or worse shows a history of Singapore, Hongkong, Thailand and/or China), and sole reason is to meet her BF, who she has seen in person only a couple of times, met in a bar or on the internet, huge age difference. Any one of these items is likely to result in a rejection. The USA Embassy looks for a reason to reject, its their starting point, thus must be presented with compelling evidence to the contrary. I know Asians working for fortune 500 companies, with sponsorship letters from their companies to attend training or meetings, on their first attempt get rejected.

I agree with one member that it is better to take her to one of the Asian countries. Maybe it might be easier to get into Australia, the beaches there are as good or better than Hawaii anyway.

Good luck

[QUOTE=Manicure]Greetings

Any of you have tried to ask a girl to leave for a week the philippines? Is it even possible to wait for her in Honolulu and pay for her roundtrip? What are the risk?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The odds on your obtaining a visa for some girl whom you barely know are between slim and none, and I would advise you not to waste your time and especially your money trying this route. First, you will have to demonstrate the longevity of your relationship and its stability, neither of which you will be able to do. Second, the young lady in question will have to demonstrate not only strong local ties, but financial resources, and it's doubtful that she will be able to accomplish the latter. Thirdly, no matter who interviews her the first time, eventually, she's going to get interviewed by an American consular official, and these folks are tough to fool; they've heard it all before countless times. There is simply zero chance that you will be able to get a tourist visa for some lady you don't really know.

GE[/QUOTE]Well said. I have a former colleague that works in US Embassy and their stats this year is that they have rejected almost 90% of all visa applicants ( all those poor souls that stand on Roxas under the sun daily).

Lasy year rejection rate was approx 86%.

Thanks all for the info, it makes sense... I will not go forward but will consider perhaps local travelling instead when I will be in the Philippines! It is always good to think with your head

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Well said. I have a former colleague that works in US Embassy and their stats this year is that they have rejected almost 90% of all visa applicants ( all those poor souls that stand on Roxas under the sun daily).

Lasy year rejection rate was approx 86%.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's a lot! My neighbor was denied a visa to visit her mother stateside because her passport was empty. Basically, you should have at least 4 or 5 visa stamps to other countries as proof you're not going to overstay your visa in the US. Also, owning property or a business in the Philippines will boost your chances since you'll have a reason to return to the PI.

have been chatting with several filipinas, some for a long time.

they have invited me to stay with them at their houses as i am trying to avoid spending alot of money on hotels since i am there for the long haul.

have any of you done this-i.e.-met a filipina on chat and stayed at her place or her parents? i already know i can expect no air cond. and primitive conditions; probably a lack of privacy, although a private room has been offered.

i am usually a pretty good judge of character, but what worries me is if i error and get someone who is going to try to run some scam, maybe with the cops help against me? phil. cops have a reputation for doing this sort of thing to tourists. maybe i need to get them to sign a prenup before staying with the, but i wonder if even that would offer any protections.

i would be great if some filipina falsely accuses me of abuse or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or they try to steal from me. i am willing to give a little in return for a room, help with groceries, etc. but not sure if this is a good idea. i won't be doing manila, so the worst place is off my agenda, but not sure cebu or davao is much different.

what do you guys think?

after searching the board and reading a few threads, i realize now this was kind of a dumb post, sorry. i dont' think i'm going to have much worries since i am staying out of manila. there's alot of good info on this board, but unfortunately my sometimes slow connection makes it hard to search for exactly what i'm looking for.

[quote=turdycurdyone]have been chatting with several filipinas, some for a long time.

they have invited me to stay with them at their houses as i am trying to avoid spending alot of money on hotels since i am there for the long haul.

have any of you done this-i.e.-met a filipina on chat and stayed at her place or her parents? i already know i can expect no air cond. and primitive conditions; probably a lack of privacy, although a private room has been offered.

i am usually a pretty good judge of character, but what worries me is if i error and get someone who is going to try to run some scam, maybe with the cops help against me? phil. cops have a reputation for doing this sort of thing to tourists. maybe i need to get them to sign a prenup before staying with the, but i wonder if even that would offer any protections.

i would be great if some filipina falsely accuses me of abuse or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or they try to steal from me. i am willing to give a little in return for a room, help with groceries, etc. but not sure if this is a good idea. i won't be doing manila, so the worst place is off my agenda, but not sure cebu or davao is much different.

what do you guys think?[/quote]

[quote=turdycurdyone]have been chatting with several filipinas, some for a long time.

they have invited me to stay with them at their houses as i am trying to avoid spending alot of money on hotels since i am there for the long haul.

have any of you done this-i.e.-met a filipina on chat and stayed at her place or her parents? i already know i can expect no air cond. and primitive conditions; probably a lack of privacy, although a private room has been offered.

i am usually a pretty good judge of character, but what worries me is if i error and get someone who is going to try to run some scam, maybe with the cops help against me? phil. cops have a reputation for doing this sort of thing to tourists. maybe i need to get them to sign a prenup before staying with the, but i wonder if even that would offer any protections.

i would be great if some filipina falsely accuses me of abuse or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or they try to steal from me. i am willing to give a little in return for a room, help with groceries, etc. but not sure if this is a good idea. i won't be doing manila, so the worst place is off my agenda, but not sure cebu or davao is much different.

what do you guys think?[/quote]
i think your concerns are legitimate. you know neither the country or the women to whom you have been speaking and it's wise to be cautious. though you have described a worse case scenario, and it's not likely to happen, it is possible and easily avoided by refusing the invitations and taking a hotel room--at least until you get to know the ladies a little. also of course if you accept an invitation to stay with one family, it does pretty much limit your ability to meet additional women, so if you choose badly, you could wind up stuck. staying in a hotel and choosing the "wrong" one however, will not have the same negative consequences.

i do not know very much about cebu, but if you are coming to davao, one alternative to might want to consider is to rent an apartment. though there are a few choices, i would suggest red knight garden, where you can rent a studio apartment for around $20 a night, and will have access to a pool and a small restaurant.

ge

[quote=turdycurdyone]have been chatting with several filipinas, some for a long time.

they have invited me to stay with them at their houses as i am trying to avoid spending alot of money on hotels since i am there for the long haul.

have any of you done this-i.e.-met a filipina on chat and stayed at her place or her parents? i already know i can expect no air cond. and primitive conditions; probably a lack of privacy, although a private room has been offered.

i am usually a pretty good judge of character, but what worries me is if i error and get someone who is going to try to run some scam, maybe with the cops help against me? phil. cops have a reputation for doing this sort of thing to tourists. maybe i need to get them to sign a prenup before staying with the, but i wonder if even that would offer any protections.

i would be great if some filipina falsely accuses me of abuse or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or they try to steal from me. i am willing to give a little in return for a room, help with groceries, etc. but not sure if this is a good idea. i won't be doing manila, so the worst place is off my agenda, but not sure cebu or davao is much different.

what do you guys think?[/quote]


i recently returned from cebu where i met a filipina online and although i saw her home once we stayed in my hotel room. i'd say base on your sound concerns you should stay in a hotel and get to know her first. you won't lose much of anything by staying in a hotel and but the potential negatives for staying in her home would be too much of a risk for me to take.