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[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1491650]I have travelled to and from the Airport, ranging from Skvt Soi 2 to Soi 33 at least four times a year. Excluding tolls I have only paid more than Baht 350. 400, once and that because of a massive traffic jam. The lowest price at 0600 on a Sunday morning was Baht 250 so I don't think you are being ripped off in the least. And quibbling about $7-8 over the cheapest rate is nonsense compared to the inconvenience of public transport.
I must admit if you enter Thailand with the feeling that you are being ripped off the moment you leave the Airport does not auger well for a happy trip when you meet up with the rip off of bar fines and lady drinks at Baht 200 plus.[/QUOTE]got to side with Mr. S on this one. I've taken taxis from Swampy to lower Suk, and back, many, many times. The rates have all fallen within his range, depending on traffic. Snagging a taxi at the departure level doesn't save a substantial amount and is, in fact, unfair to the other drivers who play by the rules and queue up.
There are cheaper alternatives, certainly, but the taxis at the airport are hardly a ripoff. I guess nobody's taken a taxi in Phuket before?
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[QUOTE=Phordphan;1491825]How in the hell did the FDA get involved? The agency responsible for making sure the foods and drugs Americans consume is safe is now issuing warnings against foreign taxi ripoffs? Isn't this the purview of the State Department?[/quote]Thailand uses the same name for their FDA and perhaps being this drug-related they released the statement.
[quote]But I digress. If the drivers puts this mystery substance into the A / C system in order to incapacitate the passengers, why doesn't it also incapacitate the driver? Secret hidden nostril filters? Shades of Get Smart! This whole thing sounds a lot like the drug-laced nipple urban legend.
What utter bullshit.[/QUOTE]Not so fast, read on the Pattaya forum and on the news about the guy that got drugged and crazed badly, actually it happened more than once in Pattaya already. These people did not even went close to a woman, at least willingly.
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Went there last month, September.
I must say the experience they offered is really an eye opener for me. I can never find this type of massage in Singapore. Not sure its the same case for Thailand.
I really enjoy foreplay and the lady gives good foreplay and service. From inside the tub to the bed.
Honesty speaking, the lady reception is very friendly and gave very good service. I don't even feel like going into a place for sex. After service, the receptionist asked for feedback and ask how I get to know of this place. She even walked me down the stairs and big goodbye.
I must say the receptionist had very good figures.
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[QUOTE=Scorchin;1491650]I must admit if you enter Thailand with the feeling that you are being ripped off the moment you leave the Airport does not auger well for a happy trip when you meet up with the rip off of bar fines and lady drinks at Baht 200 plus.[/QUOTE]For far too many people the world is one which everyone is trying to rip them off. They end up bitter with the world. Last week I was collecting my VAT refund cash an some member of he Commonwealth was screaming at h cashiers. The explained that he had to visit the inspection desk before passing through immigration. He went ballistic, crumpled his form and threw it at them brought h window and start yelling about what a. Craphole their country is.
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[QUOTE=Pita123;1491983]For far too many people the world is one which everyone is trying to rip them off. They end up bitter with the world. Last week I was collecting my VAT refund cash an some member of he Commonwealth was screaming at h cashiers. The explained that he had to visit the inspection desk before passing through immigration. He went ballistic, crumpled his form and threw it at them brought h window and start yelling about what a. Craphole their country is.[/QUOTE]There are too many people who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. I come to Thailand with a fat wallet for fun; I intend to go home with an empty wallet. If the baht leak to fast I slow down; if there is an excess at the end I splurge. I hope I am quick to recognise the cultural and practical differences. And resolve many problems by sitting backhand having another Singha.
Vey few Thais try and rip you off. Many tourists automatically think they are being ripped of. That's the conundrum.
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Went to Eden Club on Sukhumvit 7/1 earlier this year, just getting a report back in to help, I haven't seen much about it here, it seems the Pattaya one is much more popular, so I'll give a blow by blow on the process of the Bangkok one. It was good time, PSE type place, albeit rather mechanical / scripted and planned events, though very enthusiastic the whole.
Arrived early evening, I was the only one there. Greeted by the white-french owner who gave me the rundown. Two girls, set price 4500 baht, no more, no tip. Both bisexual, one side of the yellow line does anal, the other doesn't. You choose one girl, and she chooses the other, you get 1:45. He asked for the line up. 5 girls on the anal side, about 8 on the other one, the non-anal side included most of the younger / better looking ones. Choose the best of the anal side, mid-30s, but good body, ok face, and she choose a busty girl from the other side so that worked well. Oddly enough, after I selected the ladies, I took a second glance and realized there was a quite attractive girl on the anal side, who was positioned on the side wall instead of the back wall, and I simply didn't notice her, but would have picked her. She gave me a confused "Really, not me?" look, and she was right, but I already had my girls, so whatever.
Get up to the room, pretty nice. Large bed, large shower, TV playing porn, lots of mirrors, and was hotel room type clean. The girls told me their names, but they were long unpronounceable thai names, so I'll call the anal one A and the other N (for no anal). N and I got in the shower, and she cleaned me, soapy style, including clean my butt (I'll get to that). Then cleaned herself. After about 5 minutes we leave the shower, dry off, and A jumps in real quick while N and I were on the bed talking. When A is ready, per their instructions, I lay on my back, N gives a rim job and A gives oral. Mixes up a bit, but we go until cim on A in this general manner. After I finish, they clean up and seem rather uninterested in anything going on besides that, but eventually come back into bed. As I'm not ready to go again, I ask if they can with each other for a bit while I get ready, which they promptly ignore. About 5 mins or so more, I ask again, and again just ignore it. A speaks good English, N low-moderate, A is translating for N though on random conversations.
Eventually, for whatever reasons, the girls simply decide its time to start again, and yes it seems quite scripted. N lays down missionary, A puts on strap on, instructs me to stand over N so she can give me oral while A does her with the strap on. N can't wait to start giving oral it seems (I think just to go through the motions and get it done with) , N and I start, then A starts on her, N isn't fazed by being fucked and proceeds to give crazy oral for a while then has me fuck her mouth. That happens for a few minutes, then the girls switch positions, A doing oral on me and N using the strap on. N seems to be very happy to be using the strap on, A is all about giving head. After a little, I ask to fuck, N quickly takes the strap on off, puts a condom on me and I start on N missionary, then doggie. I inquire about anal, A gets quite excited and says,"yes, yes on me anal" jumps down in doggie immediately, lubes up a bit and very enthusiastically tells me to do her. She takes it like a pornstar, clearly enjoying it, for a while, until I finish.
We all rest and clean up. I want to go a third time, and this seems perfectly fine. I ask them to get started on each other and I'll join in when I'm ready (I thought it was a threesome still). They promptly ignore me and continue the conversation we were having. A while later again they simply decide, ok its time to start. Again N lays down and gives me oral, then A begins giving oral to N. N finishes, they switch, A gives me oral, and is getting it from N. A finishes. They both seemed to enjoy going down on each other, but again the focus was really on me not each other, it was just so I can see them getting off I think. A asks me to do anal to her, yes she asked me, which we do, she plays with herself during it, and finishes from anal. Being my third session, I'm able to hold out a long time. I lay back, N gives me oral, while A gets in a sort of sideways 69 on my side and me and A both play with her pussy together, and she is getting wild and way into it. A finishes again, I'm still holding out. A gives N a break and does oral to me for a little, then hands it back to N, while A and I do boobs and DFK. A says if I don't finish soon, she is up for more anal or sex. But N is doing really well and I finish up cim.
Time is about up, we shower, go downstairs, pay my fee and leave, no hassle, no tip, just pay and go.
So overall, very good PSE type experience. A bit mechanical, but the girls were into it, so it wasn't that big of an issue. I did expect this to be more of a three-way, which it is not. The girls are exclusively focused on you, not each other, or anything else, just your dick, if you're dick ain't be pleased per the guidelines, they are not getting involved or paying attention and will stop until you are being pleased. Not sure if that was good or bad though. The interaction between the girls was only per their script, again all action on my little guy. A was way into everything, N was into pleasing me per the script, but otherwise going through the motions. Would I repeat? Yes. I can certainly get better looking girls elsewhere, they weren't too good looking here, but the service was excellent, and the price fair.
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Dear all,
I will be visiting Bangkok for the first time by end of November. Unfortunately, I will stay just little less than 24 hours, arriving on Saturday afternoon (3pm) and leaving on Sunday morning (9am). I will be staying at the Shangri La.
And there are two things I really want, need, have, must try:
1. A real (and hopefully unforgettable) thai, body massage (obviously, with some extra).
2. A nice pick up joint: bar, nightclub, or, given my limited time, a good escort agency.
Any thoughts, recommendations or advice are much appreciated.
Obviously, I full report will follow after the trip.
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Went to Dr BJs, late afternoon, I was a bit tipsy already from drinking on Sukhumvit bars on the day-time happy hours. Lots of girls hanging around outside, go in, they call them all over, some are 1000 some are 700, there seemed to be no difference in the quality of girls or service for the price, but the one I liked (I think her name tag was X) was a 1000 girl, so I got her. The downstairs area is quite clean and nice, just like the pictures. Upstairs is different story. We go up to the "rooms" which are basically a long hallway with about 5 artificial wood rooms built in to them, more like wood office cubicles, but with doors, and 3/4 sized walls, open air on the top. Very bright.
The inside of the rooom and a chair, a sink and was very small, enough room for her to get in front of you when you're on the chair and to turn and use the sink is all. I undress, she washes me in the sink, and cleans her hands and mouth. Sit down in the chair, she starts oral, after a minute or so I take her shirt off and do some boobie play, then TF and more oral. Good deepthroat skills the whole time, but for a girl who does this for a living, I expected much more, but she gave it her all, and it was enjoyable, but far from the best BJs I've had. CIM, we clean up again in the sink, all done and settled, No tip, just flat 1000 baht fee.
No hassle, good enough looking girls, mostly private, sink to clean up in, set price. As good of service can probably be found cheaper in another place, but when the difference is only 100-300 baht or so, whatever.
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[QUOTE=Glamour1;1492009]Went to Eden Club on Sukhumvit 7/1 earlier this year, just getting a report back in to help, I haven't seen much about it here, it seems the Pattaya one is much more popular, so I'll give a blow by blow on the process of the Bangkok one. It was good time, PSE type place, albeit rather mechanical / scripted and planned events, though very enthusiastic the whole.[/QUOTE]Good to see that the Eden Club is still going strong in Bangkok and that the French guy, Marc, is still running the place. It is over 10 years since I was last there and Gina (left of the line) was my favourite then. She was a great performer and I often wonder what happened to her.
Sandman
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[QUOTE=NeverJerkOff; 1484761]Skogis I am a fan of your posts and adventures in Bangkok but this has to go down as the one I disagree with most. Of course that guy has a lot to learn. The classy girl of his dreams that met him at his hotel is no amateur. The rate I'm going, there's a small chance she's taken my load to the face. Also, the longer you stay here, the 9's start to become becomes 5's. I don't think guys know how stacked this country is with incredibly gorgeous women, most who never associate with westerners.
I see no obligation to pay a girl that has no interest in your money. Especially for a guy like me who doesn't have significantly more money then the girls I mess with. And the ones who do, shame on them because I give no indication that I am interested in paying for their pussy. Of course, if you are at a beer bar or have streetwalkers outside your hotel, then there is more of an obligation. A good way to make this clear is to go out to dinner and not pay for her meal.
I am an average guy fucking a different...[/QUOTE]I'm reading your judgment of my rating. Man I have fucked amazing girl from Russia, Thai, China, Ukraine south America, Spain. That you can just dream of. Don't worry for my rating. When I say 7 it's a 9 for an average Joe which I'm not. However I do agree with you that pristine TOP thai girl do not even interact with westerners.
I have been through this phase of a 8 becoming a 6 during my first long trip to Thai. (I stayed almost 2 months). Before going there I took number from girls on a website. I thought those girl were wow when compared to the rest of Thai they were girl you glad to fuck but nothing fancy for Thailand. And my second months I just stopped website and met girls mostly in real.
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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1484670]Haha I guess you will get some rants for this post but what the heck. There are some differences between you and me. The most obvious is that I compensate girls for use of their pussy almost without exceptions. People know me knows I have quite a large fleet of none P4P who are more than willing to meet up when I am in town. A few of them hi so girls as well. Lately I have start making donation to them as well as it is only fair. 2 examples: One mix thaigirl with a fairly known face I purchased a first class ticket for a luxury weekendfuckfiesta in Beijing some weeks back (one way to compensate) as she does not like to operate in BKK partywice and ecspecially not with a male. Another girl I know is cabincrew and makes easily 100K a month but I still want to compensate her so she will not get any crazy ideas me and her are more than fuckbuddies (Prada sunglasses last time another way of compensating). It is my way of keeping a comfortable distance as I have a GF back home and want to stick with her.
It is fairly known during certain circumstances even workinggirls can throw in freebies if they think they can lure you into a relationship of some sort. They view it as some sort of investment for a brighter future. Well well atleast I think it is very cheap out of you not to even offer the girls some cash / gifts or whatever. For the male ego it is allways nice to throw in a freebie here and there but dealing with ladies earning maby in a year what I make in a week would make me feel very bad about myself (I am not talking about my 2 mentioned examples)..QUOTE]Well, I am still talking to most of those girls by whatsapp. Let me explain you one thing. Apart from the massage girl to who I gave a bill. I am pretty sure all the other girl I have met in BKK would have slapt my face hard if I tried to give them money!
But we must not be dating the same species of girl.
I find your "I'm proud to pay" approach to be the most ridiculous things I have read here in ISG. If I feel a girl is in need I would definitely consider it (by the way I saw the massage girl a second time and gave her 2000 that time) , but how I am suppose to pay for a girl who has a good income and enjoyed spending time with me as much as the other way around. Yes Skogis. Sometime is it just as simple as that and do not involve money but just pleasure of the encounter. And personally I do not mind if the girl think it could be more than just sex as I am single and why not?
Oh and BTW. I'm living in a very comfortable way. But I would rather put my money into people who matter to me, who really need it (I tip a lot basic worker in Thailand) or even in new wheels rather than in a girl who do not need it and do not want it. But as you said. You and me are very different.
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Hehe nothing wrong with your selfconfidence as a keyboardwarrior and probably you have obviously extremely high thoughts of yourself. My "proud to pay" (also meaning gifts) statement is ofcourse based upon my experience as this is something I have started the last year. Obviously real P4P I have allways paid ofcourse as I am not a cheapskate. Having freebies is no big art and even if it is stupid to you or others I like to give everyone some sort of compensation gifts / money. Maby I was unclear in my post earlier. Ofcourse many of my regulars are well off and would be highly offended if cash changes owner due to sexual activity. I am a bad shopper though so I take my time to explain sometimes:"this is only a gift and as I have no time to go shopping with you, here you have a little something (cash) to buy yourself the Prada sunglasses I know you want".
And to your ratingsystem how can you possible know your ratingsystem are of such superb quality that your girls rated as 7 would be 9 by others? Hehe I think you are just high on testos (so you are excused) and are working to find your own style. And ofcourse that is fun. I wish you best of luck. But by time when you like me become 40yrs and hopefully successful you start to calm down and no longer needs to think everything you do is of supreme quality (I think of your ratingsystem).
So as I have GF back home it gives me a real pleasure to compensate girls no matter what. I pay out of guilt sometimes as I know some of these ladies travel far to see me and want me to skip my GF back home. I. E last Thursday one thaiamerican girl flew in from USA to BKK to meet me. Ofcourse that makes me want to give her some money for the nice Chanel purse I know she wants. Ofcourse I don't give "gifts" to my regulars everytime but when I feel like. Atleast not this one as I often meet her also in europe and even worse in my own country (that is scary when they start to visit your homeground).
Obviously these girls are in no need of my help whatsoever. They are only some from my fleet of girls located in most SEA countries (x Japan / Korea / Cambodia / Laos). Still it makes me feel good to give gifts(money). Especially now when xmas is around the corner. Many of these girls have been stuck with me for quite some time now. Ofcourse some come and some go as i encourage them to find other guy than me for relationship purposes but if they do that does not mean we dont jump into bed every now and then as we have some sort of history.
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[QUOTE=Mitu33; 1491950]Went there last month, September.
I must say the experience they offered is really an eye opener for me. I can never find this type of massage in Singapore. Not sure its the same case for Thailand.
I really enjoy foreplay and the lady gives good foreplay and service. From inside the tub to the bed.
Honesty speaking, the lady reception is very friendly and gave very good service. I don't even feel like going into a place for sex. After service, the receptionist asked for feedback and ask how I get to know of this place. She even walked me down the stairs and big goodbye.
I must say the receptionist had very good figures.[/QUOTE]I would have invited here for drinks / food after working time, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1492607]Hehe nothing wrong with your selfconfidence as a keyboardwarrior and probably you have obviously extremely high thoughts of yourself. My "proud to pay" (also meaning gifts) statement is ofcourse based upon my experience as this is something I have started the last year. Obviously real P4P I have allways paid ofcourse as I am not a cheapskate. Having freebies is no big art and even if it is stupid to you or others I like to give everyone some sort of compensation gifts / money. Maby I was unclear in my post earlier. Ofcourse many of my regulars are well off and would be highly offended if cash changes owner due to sexual activity. I am a bad shopper though so I take my time to explain sometimes:"this is only a gift and as I have no time to go shopping with you, here you have a little something (cash) to buy yourself the Prada sunglasses I know you want".
And to your ratingsystem how can you possible know your ratingsystem are of such superb quality that your girls rated as 7 would be 9 by others? Hehe I think you are just high on testos (so you are excused) and are working to find your own style. And ofcourse that is fun. I wish you best of luck. But by time when you like me become 40yrs and hopefully successful you start to calm down and no longer needs to think everything you do is of supreme quality (I think of your ratingsystem)..[/QUOTE]Why not fucking them in Santa Clause costume then?
By the time I am 30 something, I just hope to get a wife and kids and not ending up beeing "compensating my girls all around the world".
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1492607]Hehe nothing wrong with your selfconfidence as a keyboardwarrior and probably you have obviously extremely high thoughts of yourself. My "proud to pay" (also meaning gifts) statement is of course based upon my experience as this is something I have started the last year. Obviously real P4P I have allways paid of course as I am not a cheapskate. Having freebies is no big art and even if it is stupid to you or others I like to give everyone some sort of compensation gifts / money. Maybe I was unclear in my post earlier. Of course many of my regulars are well off and would be highly offended if cash changes owner due to sexual activity. I am a bad shopper though so I take my time to explain sometimes:"this is only a gift and as I have no time to go shopping with you, here you have a little something (cash) to buy yourself the Prada sunglasses I know you want".
And to your rating system how can you possible know your rating system are of such superb quality that your girls rated as 7 would be 9 by others? Hehe I think you are just high on testos (so you are excused) and are working to find your own style. And ofcourse that is fun. I wish you best of luck. But by time when you like me become 40yrs and hopefully successful you start to calm down and no longer needs to think everything you do is of supreme quality (I think of your rating system)..[/QUOTE]Do you mainly speak of the glasses and bags girl want by Skype? "the bag I know she wants". Is it your tactic. All I am reading is so lame, I would actually think you make up stories as it sounds to lame to be true.
Concerning my rating, simple, a few years ago I loved to go to AMP cause pure WG is not really my thing. And I have seen the dozens if not more of girls which were rated on ISG. In 3-4 different cities.
And with consistency, I could say that what guys have rated 8-9 where 5-7 to me. I even left places which was "full of 8".
Also, I have been putting quite a few pictures of what I have been fucking. And most guys would be agreed with my rating if not rating it higher.
Yes I am cocky a bit, no problem accepting that. But doesn't mean that I lie or exaggerate stuff I am writing.