Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664251]So what stopped it? Did the police start arresting the girls? It is really too bad the working girls have left the beach.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed periodically the last ten years. Help Disco closing clearly quieted Copa down. In its heyday (90's & 00's), it would seem the supply of hot girls would spontaneously expand to meet the rising demand of foreign men. A slice of Copacabana became the infamous ground zero for Rio's debauchery. The home of Rio's lucrative skin trade that brought a lot of hard currency into the city.

I remember the wives of Brazilian colleagues in SP dismissing the idea of staying in this area. They would recommend nicer and natural beaches in other parts of the country. The husbands would be like "he's a man, honey. He wants to go to Copacabana. " in an effort to close the topic. LOL. Many Brazilians wouldn't go near this area as couples or with their families.

As far as what happened to the girls on the beach, some say the hookers just disappeared soon after Help Disco closed. No more hooker beach in front of the Hotel Rio Othon. Perhaps the dramatic decline of foreign mongers meant that not enough daytime action spilled over on to the beach to make sitting there waiting worthwhile. I personally think the city also subtly encouraged these working girls to move on.

There are always limited opportunities to meet girls at the beach. It takes more than heading to one specific point on the beach. It takes more than the glance and smile of the old days.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664376]For those asking about taking girls out from 4 x4 it was pretty flagrant last night. K literally opened the club door in her civvies and asked me where Jacs was. The mistress joined the convo when Suellen and the friend were having their 'talk' and the receptionist teased me again about it. So, I assume that as long as your not being a douche, it's all good.[/QUOTE]OG,

I love your reports on current action on the ground. I love the contrasts between you and your buddy.

I hate to be the serious, big brother here. Americans (or other foreigners) get chuckled off for our "flagrant" behaviors until we don't. We don't know if the owners were present late one night how they would react.

This would a great topic for Vagabundo to weigh in on.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664113]Checked the pics for Asalem and the views are spectacular, but $200 is too much for a simple hotel room on IG. I paid much less for a 3 bdrm villa with a large pool, Jacuzzi, oceanview terrace, and, most importantly, right on the beach, I mean literally feet in the sand, there must've been no more than 100 feet between the gate and the water.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for that house on IG? I would be very interested. Asalem has a beautiful beach but you have to traverse a path down the hill, Somewhat treacherous in flops!

[QUOTE=Heyunous;2664457]Do you have a link for that house on IG? I would be very interested. Asalem has a beautiful beach but you have to traverse a path down the hill, Somewhat treacherous in flops![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/32311963?federated_search_id=bd0246a4-feaa-422f-8c4f-3c896f22b30b&source_impression_id=p3_1645128551_6lT9gCw77JOah1%2Bm[/URL]

I got to say, though, it's considerably more costly now.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664435]As far as what happened to the girls on the beach, some say the hookers just disappeared soon after Help Disco closed. No more hooker beach in front of the Hotel Rio Othon. Perhaps the dramatic decline of foreign mongers meant that not enough daytime action spilled over on to the beach to make sitting there waiting worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Besides that, remember that a good majority of those chicks were from out of town. Just like a shopping mall. They have anchor stores. Help was the anchor store. When anchor stores close, many of the other stores in the mall are right behind it. Maybe the word in other cities was that we can go get money from foreigners at Help. With Help closed, nobody was saying we can travel 10 hours on a bus to get money on the beach. Not like there were hundreds of hookers hanging out at the beach anyway. 3 to 10 (liberal estimate) at the most.

The Week in baseball.

It is Thursday. I had a great overnight, BBFS, with a mineira, 18, I met at Mosaico / VM on Sunday. Some of the almost 10 ISGers who were there will remember her as the girl I went up with from the street. I paid 500. Three pops, all BBFS. I picked her up last night at 23 h when I dropped off Monica Mattos, a Mosaico girl, hot AF, 21. We went to the beach kiosk restaurant today at Posto 6, Barra, and it was awesome. I took a bottle of gin. We had shrimp. It came to about 200 for the food including some drink mixers.

Monica Mattos came over yesterday afternoon. It was two pops, covered. She is a porn star quality 21 year old. It is fun in the way that hoaring with 21 year olds can be. I get her from the uber downstairs, we go up to the love shack, and fuck. We then go out to Olegario, and have some ribs (200 reais) and drinks. Since she likes gin and tropical, I buy some of those at the package shop there on olegario (another 200). Olegario is the place to be.

We did the same thing on Tuesday afternoon, except we went to the beach kiosk. The same waiter there saw me with 3 different girls this week. The guy must think I am. A vagabundo.

Monday, Ann Amari came over for pernoite, and it was great.

I see a lot of activity around 4 x 4, etc. I need to make it back there as well as some of the other tier 1 places, first among them perola negra and paris, where IMHO, the best girls are because here in Barra is where the richest customers are.

Best Super Bowl Sunday – Anne Amari Beach, Mineira VM, Monica Mattos Mosaico.

Anne Amari asked to come over and go to the beach. We did and it was awesome. We drank, swam, ate, and played felipe ret on the Ryobi Radio, then came back to the love shack, fucked, and enjoyed the afternoon.

Since Vagabundo was involed in the Superbowl Mosaico event, he mongered over to Mosaico (Bonhead asked for it, and Vagbundo made it happen with contacts).

OMFG. Let me start where the game ends, which is Estrella danced, stripped, took it off, and she has the best stripper body since Monica Mattos. She lewdly spread her ass for Vagabundo who sat next to the stage.

Somewhere in there, before Estrella's dance, about 8 of the 10 ISGers (about 50% lurkers, which is cool) mongered over to VM. We did the loop. Right away Vagabundo found a hot AF morena from Minas Gerais — that would be a mineira. OK, here is a Brazil protip. The best talent comes from Minas Gerais, as does the food. You find a Mineira, especially a 18 YO with no kids and a hot AF bod, you slide your penis into her, not only that you eat her pussy like it's a bowl of hot chocolate and you are fat albert, and you make her come, and Vagabundo did, and he blew a (covered) load into her hot pussy, in a cabin overlooking the main drag in VM, which is to say, Frigocopa trucks with some frozen widget destined for copa. OK, the cost was $85. She is beautiful, has a nice ass, and we went up to the cabin. She found a big cabin with no lights, so the lights in a cell phone worked, and an open window to the street worked. Vagabundo stripped while she showered, and then she came back and we 69 ed, and it was good 69 ing. She put my Skyn condom on and she hopped on, and we fucked, hard and with lust. Kissing. Then I bent her over doggy and fucked her until I came.

She goes in the rotation for pernoite. Going to have to work the BBFS in there. Getting a fresh test tomorrow, BTW.

OK, back to Mosaico. There are like 4-6 Monica Mattos clones. Monica Mattos is a morena, with perfect tits, and a Miss BumBum Brazil bunda. My particular chosen Monica Mattos came in about midnight or before, and I got her first session. She had been holding out on giving me her number. I paid $200 reais for an hour. We went up. I got the number. I stripped. She showered. Again, the cabin had no light, so cell phone light worked, and it was awesome. DFK, great blow job, she puts on the Skyn condom, and hops on top and fucks me. She has such as nice pussy. Her face is so pretty. Her tits are so perfect. We go to doggy, and I blow a load. Then I eat out her asshole and ass from behind for a few minutes, and then turn her over and eat her pussy until she orgasms very well.

Later we chat and it is game on for pernoite several times a week.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2664572]Besides that, remember that a good majority of those chicks were from out of town. Just like a shopping mall. They have anchor stores. Help was the anchor store. When anchor stores close, many of the other stores in the mall are right behind it. Maybe the word in other cities was that we can go get money from foreigners at Help. With Help closed, nobody was saying we can travel 10 hours on a bus to get money on the beach. Not like there were hundreds of hookers hanging out at the beach anyway. 3 to 10 (liberal estimate) at the most.[/QUOTE]Yes, your anchor store analogy is a good one. Help Disco drew a ton of out of town girls. A few of the residential buildings near Help were what I reverently called bee hives. They were filled up with working girls who were sharing and rotating in and out of apartments.

The beach scene was probably better than you are giving it credit. There was the more subtle scene in front of the Hotel Caesar Park in Ipanema. I also ran into Help girls on the beach at various points in Copa. Some of the working girls perhaps just wanted to relax after a busy night and didn't go to the obvious points on the beach to meet foreign men.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664439]OG,

I love your reports on current action on the ground. I love the contrasts between you and your buddy.

I hate to be the serious, big brother here. Americans (or other foreigners) get chuckled off for our "flagrant" behaviors until we don't. We don't know if the owners were present late one night how they would react.

This would a great topic for Vagabundo to weigh in on.[/QUOTE]So. I followed this up. I'm here in 4 x4 as I write this. We thought about Perola Negra or Casablanca / Dolce Vita but I'm smashed on peanut Batida and Camilla, the lap dancer from last night is on my mind.

Are $50 and a good convo with the English speaking receptionist follows. The club line is that if you want to take out a girl, their fee is are $1100. For that, they ensure the girl will act right and do you right. If the girl has finished her shift at 11/12, you make a deal and you take her, the risk is yours and they don't get involved.

FYI, line-up is fire tonight. It's cat night or some shit and there are different girls.

Reading about Ho-beach in front of Othon. I guess it depends on what year you compare. In the nineties you could easily find 50 GP's in a stretch of 200 metres. I have lots of beach photos from those years and the quality was quite good, sometimes fantastic.

I'm feeling the burn today and not had water for 2 days. When Suellen goes home I go walk for coffee and find a local spot on the corner of Rua de Assembleia and Rua Rodrigo Silva that does Açaí. Order the bowl instead of the smoothie by mistake and it arrives the size of my face. I hate wasting food, yet alone good stuff! Does wonders for my energy though.

By the time I get back I'm dead and want to sleep. It would have been VM otherwise. My buddy has his second wind and heads to Copa to repeat at Eden Spa. I recommended Anne Massagem from the lineup pics they sent me, but he's alone for the first time so playing it safe. He says Eden line-up was solid and he went with Jessica. I'the take his views on the lineup with a pinch of salt, his taste in women is either sublime or atrocious.

I sleep for a few hours and awake to message from Suellen offering to come back and hang. I ask about work and she says she starts at 6 so has time. Saying "yea sure" was a mistake. She arrives around 3, sexy as hell and I'm ready to pump. Good 90 minute session where she's choosing music and when massaging me rubs her bare goodness on my piece right to the tip. I invite her to dinner and as we go to leave she has left her shoes and bag on the floor. Erm. No.

Next 15 minutes are awkward but I'm pretty set on trying my luck on the sexy pole dancer (Camilla) from last night or something new, or hell; 7 hours sleep! Shorty is genuinely upset, but she can't stay. It really is true, some of these girls live in a mess (or the club) and much prefer your hotel room comfort, hot shower, meals etc. And making 900 or so out of me for two overnight stays is pretty good in a country where the minimum Monthly wage is 1200. I really should have seen it coming but all I saw was that ass in D4.

Dinner at Capitu, the owner of which I met in the Tabacaria, then off for my daily charuto. My buddy has arranged with a university student from photo (video call to confirm) 2 hours for 250 so I can take my time. This guy used to pick fruit 12 hours a day as an immigrant and now owns multiple properties so he can do the WORK!

After my Donna Flor, I decide I like the the peanut Batida a little too much and head back to Capitu. My buddy eventually joins me. My idea of a last night in Rio is rapidly moving to 8 hours sleep. He's ready to go back to 4 x4 (he REALLY likes 4 x4) or Mosaico. I read VB's most recent posts and we discuss Perola Negra, then Casablanca / Dolce Vita combo, or back to 4 x4. 5 (8 for me) rounds of batida in, we are wrecked. 4 x4 is as far as we can go.

It's like Hello, kitty night. And new babes. Camila, best dancer from last night is up again. I've burned through cash faster than my charuto on this trip and I'm not stopping! A whole lot of new guys in town and the desk is doing a roaring trade in room bookings. I can see how 410 for an hour with a beautiful girl holds appeal. More so after what was to come.

*See my separate post on taking girls out of the club*.

My buddy arranges with a nice looking morena named Catarina and is quite chill tonight. Last night blues I guess. I get caught up talking to Alan, a guy from south London who's basically asking me to negotiate with girls for him. He can't remember last night, I tell him he got so drunk he took an awful Negra to the room for an hour and the bouncer helped him get a taxi home. He's says, "So that's where all my money went". I've taken my eyes off her and now lost Camila. Coral is the back up. Help Alan arrange pernoite with Suellen, Coral now taken with another guy. Lexi, the twins Older sister is last option. Suellen tells me Alan is, roughly translated; a dumbass. I help Alan with the pequana Negra in white and he's happy. Lexi taken upstairs. See the pattern here.

I try to get my buddy's morena to get a message to Coral. Put the offer in and if the dude she is with has not booked, come with us. Coral agrees, I'm chill and no longer going to punch Alan. I see Lexi as I go to pay and we share a look. She is changed and leaving and I'm going to try get her. I'm clearly off my game because instead of just making the move I go to pay first, take my eyes off her and like Kaiser Soze. She disappears. Coral then subsequently pulls out of our deal. I've flamed out.

I go outside to get air, my buddy joins me. His girl took 40 minutes to change so we hang by the small steps next to the club. He wanted to leave, I said be patient. I didn't know. Alan joins us. He is waiting for the Negra. I run back in to use the bathroom and the girl is milling around. She smiles at me, I get it. I go tell Alan to go home, he insists she will come. We left him waiting outside.

Get to hotel, I'm straight to bed. I saw a message from my buddy at 4 am but thought nothing of it. TL: DR, all hell broke loose. They were chilling until it was time for him to enter. She then starts regulating and making it difficult time and again. He pulls out, gives her 200, tells her to leave. She insists on the 500. He makes some crucial mistakes (left his room, didn't take her picture, didn't call her bluff on the police) to lose leverage and it spiralled. Hotel staff don't back him, he ends up paying her to make it go away. Lucky he made them check her bag as she had his phones, cologne, etc. As he explained to me this morning, the words of the 4 x4 receptionist on taking out girls echoed in my mind. He'll be ok, but I remember the first time a girl did this to me back in Marrakech way back. Crazy ***** took a knife and cut her arm. Hopefully a stop to Bel Prazer before the airport will reset his mood.

"Catarina" clearly heard him when he told her it was his last night in town and made her move. There are risks to this game. Stay sharp and stay safe out there.

OG.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2663326]So yeah, I wish I had been in RJ back in the day when Help Disco was rocking and there were pick up girls on the beach.[/QUOTE]I really miss Help. That said, There are still plenty of late night options on / near Avenida Atlántica. Part of that is Mabs and Dolce Vita. There are also other late night bars too in the area. What exists now is a bit of a smaller scale and more spread out.

As for the beach, there are still plenty of freelancers. The difference now is that it's not as overt as before. To overcome this, you have to make conversation with girls on the beach or the hawkers (who will point them out and make introductions). To avoid the markup as a result of third party interference, you got to collect numbers and reach out via text. It is more work than what it was, and that's why any trip to Rio should be a minimum 14 days so to get adjusted and maximize opportunities by building up your contact lists of girls.

The big positive in terms of changes is the safety of Avenida Atlántica at night. Gone are the trannys, scam artists and robbers. There are a lot more people out late night and small little parties up and down the street. Portuguese speaking abilities maximize your enjoyment opportunities!

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664835]When Suellen goes home I go walk for coffee and find a local spot on the corner of Rua de Assembleia and Rua Rodrigo Silva that does Aa. I sleep for a few hours and awake to message from Suellen offering to come back and hang. I ask about work and she says she starts at 6 so has time. Saying "yea sure" was a mistake. She arrives around 3, sexy as hell and I'm ready to pump. Good 90 minute session where she's choosing music and when massaging me rubs her bare goodness on my piece right to the tip. I invite her to dinner and as we go to leave she has left her shoes and bag on the floor. Erm. No.[/QUOTE]Your posts remind me of my very first trip to Brazil. You see, I had my own "Suellen" then (in the photos). She was from Belo Horizonte LOL! Met her at the now defunct Barbarella nightclub. Thing is, she looked just like she belonged in that other "BH" (Beverly Hills). That is, until she opened her mouth that is. Very heavy (and beautiful) Brazilian-accented English. I remember too that her butt hole was so tight that it was one of the few times in my long and storied cornholing career that I couldn't "enter" hahaha! Should have used my patented missionary anal "frango" technique LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Mexidan;2664859]I really miss Help. That said, There are still plenty of late night options on / near Avenida Atlntica. Part of that is Mabs and Dolce Vita. There are also other late night bars too in the area. What exists now is a bit of a smaller scale and more spread out.

As for the beach, there are still plenty of freelancers. The difference now is that it's not as overt as before. To overcome this, you have to make conversation with girls on the beach or the hawkers (who will point them out and make introductions). To avoid the markup as a result of third party interference, you got to collect numbers and reach out via text. It is more work than what it was, and that's why any trip to Rio should be a minimum 14 days so to get adjusted and maximize opportunities by building up your contact lists of girls.

The big positive in terms of changes is the safety of Avenida Atlntica at night. Gone are the trannys, scam artists and robbers. There are a lot more people out late night and small little parties up and down the street. Portuguese speaking abilities maximize your enjoyment opportunities![/QUOTE]Great post,

Mexidan. Thanks.

On my two previous visits to RF I stayed near Arpoador on Copa & on Ipanema and on Praia the Barra the Tijuca. On my next visit I am staying.

In between Posto 3 & Posto 4 on Copa, so I am looking forward to checking out a few more of the late night options in that vicinity. Casablanca being one and yeah I will check out Mabs again too even though I am not expecting much based on my 1st visit.

A. H.

The demise of the hoe triangle (Beach, Meia Pataca, Help) came down to the PERFECT STORM!! Many factors occurred within a 3 to 4 year period that killed the sex scene in Copa.

1) Help Closed.

2) Rio won the rights to host the World Cup.

3) Rio won the rights to host the Olympics.

4) The dollar dropped to like 1. 6 or 1. 7 R.

5) Once Rio won the rights to host the Olympics, the price of property fucking skyrocketed! I knew many retired Americans who had to move out of Copa because the price for rent was too high!

6) The powers that be shut down Karla Models. No more ordering 3 girls at a time for a 2 hour orgy for only 100 bucks.

7) The price for Airplane tickets went thru the roof! 1800 damn dollars for a coach seat!

8) Many tourists (Especially Black Americans) stopped going to Rio and started going to Sosua or other destinations.

9) They closed the Bar section of Balcony.

10) Many of the girls could no longer afford to live 4-5 deep in a Copa apartment because there weren't enough tourists for them to make money. During that time, I knew about 25 girls who got married and moved to America. I can only imagine how many relocated to Europe.

All those factors came together to kill the freelance scene in Copa! If you go to hoe beach now, you will be lucky if you see 3 girls working. Meia Pataca has no hoes, it's strictly European tourists. Those waiters look so sad standing around that empty restaurant.