Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2917266]As usual you are wrong and living in some fantasy world. I think you are describing Ukraine army, but why stop lying now.[/QUOTE]This guy Peter Zeihan made the case that Russia always starts wars horribly and then they get rid of the politically adept but no nothing losers in the military and then put in people who know what they are doing, and then Russia uses its superior manpower to win. That pattern has totally held true in this war.

As far as Xman and Russian propaganda, have you seen the Russians skilled with communications in any area? Any blockbuster movies? Any great social media sites? Any kick ass music groups? Shit, Putin went on this boring 30 minute history lecture when he started talking to Tucker Carlson. When I was in the former USSR, the Soviets thought they understood Americans but I felt they did so to a rigid point where we were given beef with literally every meal.

American propaganda is so much better. The only place Russian propaganda took hold was in universities and communism / socialism was a great excuse for why those intelligent professors were not more wealthy and powerful than they were. It was and is fertile ground for socialism.

But yeah, guys like Xman do not think there is any American propaganda in this war. There is only Russian propaganda.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917300]That's not even true.[/QUOTE] What part is not true?

And tell me, what territory did Ukraine capture during their much hyped counter offensive that started in June 2023? Name some villages, cities, towns, etc. I know they captured Robotyne to much fanfare, a small tiny village that the Russians have since recaptured.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2917418]What part is not true?

And tell me, what territory did Ukraine capture during their much hyped counter offensive that started in June 2023? Name some villages, cities, towns, etc. I know they captured Robotyne to much fanfare, a small tiny village that the Russians have since recaptured.[/QUOTE]That's not how that works, if you put forward a claim without evidence, it can also be dismissed without evidence. Let's see where you are getting this information from?

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2917288]Your post history suggests you still engage in sex tourism in Ukraine during the war time, so let me summarize:[/QUOTE]Is there something wrong with mongering? If you want to criticize people for mongering, why are you here?

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917421]Is there something wrong with mongering? If you want to criticize people for mongering, why are you here?[/QUOTE]Nothing.

What's wrong is hypocrisy. Taking advantage of the war, hunting Ukrainian women when their husbands are on frontline dying, while claiming to be helping Ukraine is just another level.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917421]If you want to criticize people for mongering, why are you here?[/QUOTE]I do not calm I'm a saint as you do, nor do I criticize mongering. I do criticize hypocrisy.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2917264]Let's assume all of that is true, that the Russian army is weak, the Russians are stupid and incompetent, their hardware is a joke, etc etc. Answer this question:

If all that is true, why did the Ukrainian counter offensive last year fail so miserably? They actually had a well trained, well armed army with many NATO trained brigades at that time. And they only captured 1 village. Why?[/QUOTE]Of course, the mere premise of your question is yet another element of disinformation because the AFU liberated over a dozen villages, not one. That being said, here are the reasons why the 2023 counteroffensive was stalled.

1. It was repeatedly postponed due to poor weather and countless delays in weapon supplies.

2. Due to these delays, the Russians had managed to build efficient defense infrastructure.

3. The Ukrainians had gotten too cocky after their spectacularly successful counteroffensives in 2022.

Nevertheless, I find it interesting (and telling) how you consistently bragging about thwarting a Ukrainian CO. Is that where mighty Russia and its military prowess are standing right now? A stalemate?

That's a fateful departure from Kyiv in 3 days.

I mean, you guys have captured some yummy cities recently, like Bakhmut or Avdiivka. Want to tell us about those glorious victories and what they cost you? No?

[QUOTE=Riina;2917230]Pretty disingenuous statement coming from a sex tourist in Kiev.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2917288]You come to Ukraine to take advantage of the situation, paying to have sex with women [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917421]Is there something wrong with mongering? If you want to criticize people for mongering, why are you here?[/QUOTE]They're probably working on more than one forum. I see how these fellas might get confused.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917420]That's not how that works, if you put forward a claim without evidence, it can also be dismissed without evidence. Let's see where you are getting this information from?[/QUOTE]Why are you even in this discussion if you have no clue? You should stick to punting which you clearly excel at. As for your question, let me educate you. This is from the pathetic pro Ukrainian western mainstream media. Have a read if you have the attention span:

Despite six months of intense fighting, Ukraine managed just a 7.5-kilometer advance, reaching the village of Robotyne.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/MAPS/klvygwawavg/[/URL]#four-factors-that-stalled-ukraines-counteroffensive.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2917571]Why are you even in this discussion if you have no clue? ...[/QUOTE]You are demonstrating a complete (and sad) lack of self awareness.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2917482]Nothing.

What's wrong is hypocrisy. Taking advantage of the war, hunting Ukrainian women when their husbands are on frontline dying, while claiming to be helping Ukraine is just another level.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's better if you make a list of places where mongers are allowed to operate? Would be good to know what the ISG morality police allows and disallows. Glad you know everything about the lives of Ukrainians.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2917482]I do not calm I'm a saint as you do, nor do I criticize mongering. I do criticize hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]Hypocrisy? Irony is lost on you I guess.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2917673]You are demonstrating a complete (and sad) lack of self awareness.[/QUOTE]This is unfortunately endemic amongst the RuZZians.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2917412]This guy Peter Zeihan made the case that Russia always starts wars horribly and then they get rid of the politically adept but no nothing losers in the military and then put in people who know what they are doing, and then Russia uses its superior manpower to win. That pattern has totally held true in this war.
[/QUOTE]That guy gets most things wrong, but I did like his recent video about higher rates for way longer.

I don't know about Russian strategy, but I do know it's a shit show for the Westerners that went to fight. Ukrainians basically grind them up and have no respect for their lives. Plenty of reports out there of their terrible experiences, completely out gunned with fractional resources.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2917687]
Hypocrisy? Irony is lost on you I guess.[/QUOTE]Sure. You are not a hypocrite at all.

Having some random foreign dude pay to have sex with their women is exactly what Ukrainian soldiers need.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2917571]Why are you even in this discussion if you have no clue? You should stick to punting which you clearly excel at. As for your question, let me educate you. This is from the pathetic pro Ukrainian western mainstream media. Have a read if you have the attention span:

Despite six months of intense fighting, Ukraine managed just a 7.5-kilometer advance, reaching the village of Robotyne.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/MAPS/klvygwawavg/[/URL]#four-factors-that-stalled-ukraines-counteroffensive.[/QUOTE]Gee, that's just lazy.

After an obligatory tirade against "pathetic pro Ukrainian western mainstream media" where do you go? That's right, you paste a link from "pathetic pro Ukrainian western mainstream media" that practically lists the same pointers I already provided you a day earlier.

That's lazy and clumsy. You've now officially crossed into the Drama Queen territory.

[QUOTE=Riina;2917713]

I don't know about Russian strategy, but I do know it's a shit show for the Westerners that went to fight. Ukrainians basically grind them up and have no respect for their lives. Plenty of reports out there of their terrible experiences, completely out gunned with fractional resources.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that both sides use foreign fighters in their ranks. Seeing that you're so well-versed in these matters, is there anything you could tell us about foreign soldiers fighting for Russia and how are their lives respected by your homeland?

[QUOTE=Riina;2917713]I don't know about Russian strategy, but I do know it's a shit show for the Westerners that went to fight. Ukrainians basically grind them up and have no respect for their lives. Plenty of reports out there of their terrible experiences, completely out gunned with fractional resources.[/QUOTE]You just described the Russian military doctrine. Also by reversing the narrative, you've also used the main tool in the Russian propaganda playbook.

You can now pass go and collect 200 rubles.