If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?
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If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?
You don't have to overdo it my friend. Why the heck would you tip after every drink? You will not swing the opinion about Indians with your generosity. Most go-go or bar girls don't like to go with Indian men because Indians disrespect Thai women. A Lot. This is also the reason why Thai girls avoid Arabs, turks etc. So treating girls like human beings should be at the top of to-do list.
[QUOTE=Milky100;2206910]My friend and I (Both Indians) have visited Pattaya Four times and here is what we did and had a great time.
- Book in a nice hotel: We always stayed in LK Metropolitan, Two Bedroom Suite (Good first impression, when the girls come into our room). This time we are going to stay in LK Empress (Three bedroom suite).
- Dress like going for a casual dinner in a star hotel (No shorts, only shoes,.) and wear a nice perfume (At least a Hugo boss).
- Get girls from Beach Road, Beer Bar. Do not Negotiate.
- Go to bars like Insomnia and Lucifer, after getting girls.
- Tip the waitress in the Bar for every drink order (We ordered shots every 15 minutes)..[/QUOTE]
It's causing Indians problems. They have a terrible reputation. If being stingy is costing you what you want, then don't be stingy. There is a vast difference between overpaying and cheap behavior.
[QUOTE=XXL;2207316]If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Milky100;2206910]My friend and I (Both Indians) have visited Pattaya Four times and here is what we did and had a great time.
- Book in a nice hotel: We always stayed in LK Metropolitan, Two Bedroom Suite (Good first impression, when the girls come into our room). This time we are going to stay in LK Empress (Three bedroom suite).
- Dress like going for a casual dinner in a star hotel (No shorts, only shoes,.) and wear a nice perfume (At least a Hugo boss).
- Get girls from Beach Road, Beer Bar. Do not Negotiate.
- Go to bars like Insomnia and Lucifer, after getting girls.
- Tip the waitress in the Bar for every drink order (We ordered shots every 15 minutes).
- Tip the assistants in the Restroom Area (They provide a wonderful two minute massage, that will freshen you up)..[/QUOTE]You do not have to be over liberal. That would be ridiculous. A section of people from other countries also behave improperly and you cannot just generalise about the whole country. And do not be under the impression that it will you will be changing the impression, if they exist, just because you indulge in some excesses.
[QUOTE=XXL;2207316]If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?[/QUOTE]Agree with you. It is individual decision to spend less or more and the same cannot be attributed to only Indians. Similar traits exist with others too. Indian travellers are among the highest spenders worldwide.
[QUOTE=Milky100;2206910]Book in a nice hotel: We always stayed in LK Metropolitan, Two Bedroom Suite (Good first impression, when the girls come into our room). This time we are going to stay in LK Empress (Three bedroom suite).[/QUOTE]Since everybody touched on everything else, I will just say that the girls don't give a fuck about your room. You are not impressing them. If you want a nice room for yourself on vacation then that is a different story. I know chicks that fuck and suck dick in the bathroom at the disco. They don't even need a room. They are in it for the money, not your room. No need to try to impress hookers.
I don't think the problem with Indian brothers is necessarily because they are cheap. No way they are cheaper than me and I don't have half the problems they mention. But a lot of it is the mob mentality. You don't have 10 guys swarm around one woman. That is just wrong. Split up and get your own damn chick.
[QUOTE=XXL;2207316]If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?[/QUOTE]That is funny. I thought the reason to get a hooker was so you did not have to spend more. If you are spending so much to try to impress someone that you have to pay anyway then you got the game confused. That is like buying a shiny new car in order to pull up to McDonald's drive thru. Your hamburgers are not going to be made any different than any of the other customers' and you will still have to pay for the food, same as the customer that walked inside.
[QUOTE=XXL;2207316]If Indians are stingy it's something they should be thanked for shouldn't they? Which consistency is there in berating some members for overpaying on the one hand and urging Indians to spend more on the other hand?[/QUOTE]It is funny at times, I hear it all the times, how the Koreans, Japanese, and now the Chinese dominate a few GoGo and overpay and buy too many drinks and throw too many ping pongs. Not to mention the berating in general that their dicks are short and they cum premature in 3 minutes like short dicks and pre-ejaculation is exclusive to their race rarely aside from me are they defended?
When it comes to Indians, especially in the last few posts no one is berating Indian the few including mines are just opinions many Indian themselves have created and re-enforced from their action in the past and present. Although we are talking, in general, it isn't directed at any particular Indian poster here.
My opinion isn't that Indian are stingy, even when they hold up traffic trying to negotiate a 10 baht ride down to 5 baht, or trying to gang bang a girl a Beach road girl for 500 baht, or sitting in a Go Go in a group and unwilling to buy a drink. None of this means to me Indians are bad people. The bad reputation of these Indians, in general, are harming other Indians who have a better understanding of behavior when traveling abroad who are going a bit overboard paying and tipping to compensate for their privilege of entry which I feel is totally unnecessary.
[QUOTE=Milky100;2206910]My friend and I (Both Indians) have visited Pattaya Four times and here is what we did and had a great time.
- Book in a nice hotel: We always stayed in LK Metropolitan, Two Bedroom Suite (Good first impression, when the girls come into our room). This time we are going to stay in LK Empress (Three bedroom suite).
- Dress like going for a casual dinner in a star hotel (No shorts, only shoes,.) and wear a nice perfume (At least a Hugo boss).
- Get girls from Beach Road, Beer Bar. Do not Negotiate.
- Go to bars like Insomnia and Lucifer, after getting girls.
- Tip the waitress in the Bar for every drink order (We ordered shots every 15 minutes).
- Tip the assistants in the Restroom Area (They provide a wonderful two minute massage, that will freshen you up).
- Tip the doormen when you leave.
- We usually take Foot Massage daily and don't forget to Tip them too (They will recognize you the next time and offer good service).
- Respect the Girls and they will take care of you.
If for any reason a girl is not willing to go with you, don't take any offence and move on to meet the next girl.
We may have to spend some extra money than foreigners as we Indians have a bad reputation and spending extra money is the one of the ways to overcome it.[/QUOTE]Milky, if you and your buddy have been to Pattaya four times recently and had a great time while doing the things you cited in that post, then don't change your methods on any non Indian's advice here. Frankly, anyone who is not Indian can in no way advise an Indian on how to get well laid in Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand that contradicts what YOU have done to make that happen and learned works quite well for you. It might not require members of other ethnic groups to get a fancy hotel room, to tip here and there so openly almost every step of the way, etc. Maybe they can hold off on tipping only certain staff as a nice gesture on the way OUT of a bar and so on. But I am guessing YOU have discovered from experience as an Indian that getting a bare bones hotel room and holding off on tipping until the end or only for certain staff results in you not getting as well laid as doing so does. You might even have found and observed with your Indian friends that not doing it the way you do it results in barely getting decent sex at all in Thailand, right? Who knows.
If that is true, then keep doing what you're doing. Don't worry, your methods are not ruining anything for me, a Caucasian punter, any more than what the Japanese and Koreans do in Bangkok ruin anything for me. LOL. Especially since I can assure you I have NOT gotten well laid in Pattaya by local Pattaya P4P girls in ANY of the previous 4 trips I've made there (not counting this past weekend trip there). That is, not well laid or sucked by any local Pattaya girls I have WANTED to fuck and be sucked by.
However, I did get extremely well laid and sucked over this past weekend in Pattaya, when most of the bars were closed. How? Simple. I only went there to spend the weekend with a Korat girl I'd met on ThaiFriendly months ago and who had contacted me again out of the blue after traveling there on the holiday weekend to visit her sister. I had completely forgotten the brief exchanges we'd had online back then. She was no stunner, but she was 23 years old, fit, no baby, nice tits, great skin, no tats, no weird piercings and had a very cute face. I'd certainly put her among the top 5% of girls I have ever seen working on Soi 6 in terms of looks and she wouldn't have lasted 20 seconds on Beach Road before being scooped up. The sex with her was fun and totally satisfying, something I had not experienced with a Pattaya P4P girl even once in the 4-5 trips I've taken there recently.
Other than nominal food expenses, all I gave her when she mentioned she wanted to go shopping with her sister on Sunday (LOL. That would be code for "time to pay me for our time together") was 3,000 baht. She was just fine with that. That was for our time together from Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon, two real GFE fucks and one wonderfully complete real blowjob (hey, I'm 65 friggin' years old now!).
Well, there's my take on how you have made things work for you in Pattaya and my rare Pattaya Reports field report, all in one. Don't know if reporting great sex with a girl who only traveled to Pattaya for the weekend and to be with me counts as a Pattaya field report, but there it is and I am happy to finally have a positive report to post about me having sex in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2206063]My only trip to Pattaya was for 2 nights in early November 2017. At that time the beach side of Beach Road had very few freelancers, perhaps 5 or 10 between Walking Street and Soi 6. One of the girls on the other side of Beach Road told me that the police chased them off the beach side. Based on more recent YouTube videos, it appears the FL scene on Beach Road is strong again.
I'm planning another trip to Pattaya, but I want to go when the FL scene on Beach Road is strong. Can anyone explain what happened in November 2017 and when I should avoid for my 2018 trip?[/QUOTE]They are at the clubs.
I think its really good inputs.
Even super seniors with thousands of field report try to address.
Thanks a ton.
Hope my first Thai trip will not be last.
I didn't mean to offend anyone. My comments are based on my experience going out with several Indian guys I know. They all hobby like myself and none of them have a difficult time finding damn good looking girls in pattaya. That's why I pointed out there is no need to do some of the things mentioned.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2207386]Especially since I can assure you I have NOT gotten well laid in Pattaya by local Pattaya P4P girls in ANY of the previous 4 trips I've made[/QUOTE]Damn man. You might have to team up with Milky and let him take you under his wing. LOL.
I stopped going out with my indian co workers, since I hear them making plans, how 8 people can fit in one hotel room.
How 8 of these friends share 1 girl and how they can buy frozen food and cooks in a hotel micro wave.
Is it possible to find Indian working girls in pattaya? Maybe freelancers?
[QUOTE=Trimix;2207555]Is it possible to find Indian working girls in pattaya? Maybe freelancers?[/QUOTE]No. But a Thai chick can dress up like an Indian chick and you won't know the difference. Me and my cousin met a couple of Nepalese hookers a few years back, but wasn't about to give them the 3000 they were asking. I thought it was hard enough to get Indian chicks to fuck in India. I wouldn't expect they would come over to Thailand and all of a sudden be loosey poosey.