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Good to know
[QUOTE=Elbrens;2725580]So I went swiping on tinder. Matched with this syrian girl.
Talked a bit then exchanged whatsapp. Agreed to meet on the same day. No specific arrangement agreed. She claimed to be a tourist. Here for 3 days already and 4 more days to go.
Met her at one of the upscale hotels on SZR. She immediately tells me she wants to go for shisha and didn't want to go out of the hotel and led me to this bar with shisha place. Spent like 2 hours with her talking random stuff and she drank at least 8 glasses and ordered a shisha and all the appetizers they had. Figured out the bill would be crazy so I asked for the bill to leave - 4 k! Paid and went running feeling like a complete idiot. Couldn't really do anything or complain to anyone.
So clearly she's getting a cut of this money and clearly the drinks she ordered were not real drinks cz she was totally fine. Not even any signs of getting tipsy.
I feel so embaressed actually. Although iv been mongering for many years.
Anyway. Watch out guys.[/QUOTE]Whats the name of the hotel?
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2725770]These kind of scams are common all over the world. Usually they have huge security bouncers / assholes who will not let you leave if you don't pay or they'll escort you to the nearest ATM.
It's easy to say "you should have not paid or what they will do" but it's never that easy on the spot. You usually think about your safety and not your wallet, which is the smart (er) choice.[/QUOTE]Yes it was almost impossible. At one point I wanted to go to the toilet and I had the bouncers escort me to the bathroom and they actually went in with me inside. I realized the scam a but late in the game and honestly it was almost impossible to haggle with a few bouncers and staff etc. I wouldn't have been able to do anything. Well maybe they can offer a discount or something. Anyway I just decided to pay up and leave and bare with my stupidity.
However. Next day I went in on a risky trade (wanting to make my money back) and luckly facebook went up that day so made up for my shit.
I didn't really find similar reports on this forum (I'm an almost daily follower) - so thought of just sharing the wisdom 😂.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2725770]These kind of scams are common all over the world. Usually they have huge security bouncers / assholes who will not let you leave if you don't pay or they'll escort you to the nearest ATM.
It's easy to say "you should have not paid or what they will do" but it's never that easy on the spot. You usually think about your safety and not your wallet, which is the smart (er) choice.[/QUOTE]To hell with their security. I'm not paying for anything. They can't do anything to me or force me to pay. What are they going to do? Get physical? That's an easy police call afterwards and they're finished.
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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2725769]Or maybe he could have told her to get the hell out of there after the first couple of drinks but 8?[/QUOTE]8 drinks is alot but that would still come to around 500-1000 dirhams max and you can after say ok that was dumb but not the end of the world. But 4 k. F--k that. You can go to some of the best clubs in Dubai and get a table for prices much lower than that.
People need to stop fearing all these security and bouncers. They can't do anything to you. They can't force you to do something you don't want to and they won't get physical with you either because that will be their backsides in jail or a one way ticket out of here.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2725770]These kind of scams are common all over the world. Usually they have huge security bouncers / assholes who will not let you leave if you don't pay or they'll escort you to the nearest ATM.
It's easy to say "you should have not paid or what they will do" but it's never that easy on the spot. You usually think about your safety and not your wallet, which is the smart (er) choice.[/QUOTE]I read about such scams back in 2005 when I was preparing to travel to Budapest. On the TripAdvisor website, guys had shared their experiences where in on Vaci Ut. 2 girls would come over and try to strike up a conversation. It will lead you into a bar where one would end up running a 500 euro bill. And then the bouncer will accompany you to the ATM and etc etc.
And while I was there, it really happened. 2 girls walked over to me, in Vaci Ut. , and started saying that they saw me in one of the Hot Springs Bath, etc. I just politely told them I am not interested in the drinks or anything and would only like to take a walk. And they left.
Then in 2009, when I was in Manila, one of my local friends took me to a strip club. Their deal was quite honest by comparison. Every time the waiter brought a drink, he would show the price on the bill and ask me to put my initials on it. Even when I had one of the girls sitting on my lap, he just won't compromise on his SOP.
So yeah, be a little careful don't be so naive.
Cheers!!
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[QUOTE=AmRev2017;2725825]I read about such scams back in 2005 when I was preparing to travel to Budapest. On the TripAdvisor website, guys had shared their experiences where in on Vaci Ut. 2 girls would come over and try to strike up a conversation. It will lead you into a bar where one would end up running a 500 euro bill. And then the bouncer will accompany you to the ATM and etc etc.
And while I was there, it really happened. 2 girls walked over to me, in Vaci Ut. , and started saying that they saw me in one of the Hot Springs Bath, etc. I just politely told them I am not interested in the drinks or anything and would only like to take a walk. And they left.
!![/QUOTE]I've seen and heard about this from Paris to Krakow to Odessa all the way to SPB. I got myself appeoached by two girls on the main nightlife street of SPB. I didn't even care to stop to talk to them, I don't need to fool myself. The chance that two girls speaking good English in a country when 99.9% don't and would target the obvious single foreigner and immediately talk in English when they should at least speak Russian first is an absolute 0.
As for the guy saying they won't get physical, true maybe in UAE. But even then, in that case yes but imagine it was a hooker, you're going to go to the police and tell them you were with a Hooker?
But 100% they would get physical in other countries, especially corrupt ones like Odessa. I saw bouncers literally throw a guy on the ground in front of a strip club in front of a ton of people in Krakow.
There are a million reviews about foreigners getting scammed thousands in Odessa clubs like Itaki. 100% the police knows about it and is a bunch of corrupt morons.
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[QUOTE=Masiha1980;2725724]Rock Bottom was empty too when I went there around 11 am on a Friday night, they bar guy said come back at 2 am it will be busy but it wasn't. Just few 5-6 folks.
My recommendation. Blah Blah -- now I would highly recommend this one. Besides from the fact that the entry was 300 aed which is applied towards your drinks and you don't pay at the door but in your bar tab, it was great.
harge you per order if you are not resident here.
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Interesting, so Blah Blah is a pickup bar too? Which day did you go? Are all the girls pros or you had to be careful? What kind of prices are they asking? Any Russian model types?
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[QUOTE=Masiha1980;2725761]My experience in Dubai.
RS. Went to RS July 16th Saturday around 1 am- entry fee 500 aed only two drinks for that -chose anyone brand but only 2 drinks with 500 aed. Complete ripoff at the door.
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I think you got ripped off at RS. Price is 250 for entry plus two drinks, unless they changed again. At one point it was 150 without drinks I think.
I'm interesting in Blabla, did you see only pros? Are the girls staying in groups or in a more approachable way? What time did you go ?
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[QUOTE=Elbrens;2725780]Yes it was almost impossible.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing my friend and thanks for sharing your experience. We all make mistakes and it's okay to feel embarrassed afterwards. Hell, I made a really dumb mistake with this French con woman from Seeking Arrangement and it cost me 1500 AED and I still feel dumb and embarrassed by it. But it was a lesson learned. What's most important is that you analyze your mistake and not repeat it. There is scam all over the world, and Dubai is no different. I am cautious every day dealing with everyone because sometimes it seems everyone is out to rip you off, from the girls to the cabbies to the bouncers etc.
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[QUOTE=Masiha1980;2725761]My experience in Dubai.
RS. Went to RS July 16th Saturday around 1 am- entry fee 500 aed only two drinks for that -chose anyone brand but only 2 drinks with 500 aed. Complete ripoff at the door.
I went there with family friends so didn't go there to hunt but just to learn and observe since I am going there August 8th -14th and will definitely go there first except the entry fee and drinks were super duper expensive and a rip off.
[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on how crowded it gets. I was there last night, and they asked me 250 with 2 drinks, or 150 with no complimentary drinks. Since was past 2 am and I had less than 2 hours, I skipped it.
Will write up a FR on my weekend experience soon.
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[QUOTE=Elbrens;2725580] Figured out the bill would be crazy so I asked for the bill to leave - 4 k! Paid and went running feeling like a complete idiot. Couldn't really do anything or complain to anyone.
So clearly she's getting a cut of this money and clearly the drinks she ordered were not real drinks cz she was totally fine. Not even any signs of getting tipsy.
I feel so embaressed actually. Although iv been mongering for many years.
Anyway. Watch out guys.[/QUOTE]Client of mine went through something similar. Word of advice to all, you have the right to speak to the manager and threaten to call DED, or simply just keep the receipt and file a complaint with consumer protection.
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Uzbek from Moscow hotel
First off, thanks to all the folks who responded to my post here and DM to help me plan this. It worked very well, I must say.
After a busy morning at the famed Jumeirah spa (see my report in AMPS other areas), and hanging around in Baran without much success for a late lunch, crashed out for a couple of hours to get ready for the night. Spoke to the bouncers in the reception area first at night to make sure my double occupancy booking was valid for a pickup from the clubs. The bouncers take care of the girl registration, even when she is from outside. Just hang around the reception area a bit and you will likely see how it all works.
Hit Coochini around 10.30 and paid the 1 red cover charge. Spent 3 hours with a beer and the complementary fruit plate, I loved the atmosphere and music. Being a regular traveler to ME countries lately, have begun to even recognise some of the popular songs. The girls started coming in after 11, and there were a few stunners. Spoke to a couple of them early on, but they would not budge below 10 reds for ST. Tried to convince them that they could come back to the club in 2 hours and do an all night with someone else. But no luck. Bough them a drink and asked them to buzz off. Maybe Friday night competition, but rates were almost non negotiable. It did not help that there were 4-5 groups of guys literally throwing money at the singers there. Weekdays the girls might be more open to negotiate.
Headed down to red square at 2 am, I was not took keen to spend another 2. 5 red cover for less than 2 hours. Walked over to the library cafe across and chatted with the Russian and Uzbek managers. Russians were hot in demand, and were willing to wait. The managers would not budge on the prices. A young tall Uzbek caught my eye. She was trying to fit in the group, not too much talking, quick glances around, I could make out she was new in the scene. Asked her to come over and got her a drink, chatted a bit. Very little English, so the manager came over. Asked for 10 reds for 2 hours, laughed her off and countered 6. She said sorry and walked away. I sat sipping my drinks and flirting from far with the other Uzbek girls in the group. Just after 3 am, called the manager again and asked if she had an offer. She asked 8 reds, we agreed for 7 reds. Told her I would let the girl go at 5. 30 am.
Money well spent, the girl was young and hungry, nice body overall. Almost chewed my lips off in DFK, very aggressive. Super clean for DATY which got her going. Took her in mish, CG and doggy. Given the morning session, I ran much longer than usual. She handled it like a champ. After we cleaned up, started chatting about life with google translate. Picked up her number for a direct booking next time. Started round 2 with the usual stuff again and let her go tipping her 1 red. Hugged and kissed like long lost GF and asked me to ping her next time.
WIR. Probably try someone else.
Damage - 7 K + 1 tip.
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Dubai Trip in August
Hello, hope you are all doing well. I have a 10 hour layover in Dubai this week and will be staying at the park regis kris kin hotel and was thinking about either trying the club7 or just going through MR to get together with a viet. From what I understand the go to spot either seems to be ratsky or Jules. There is some mention of club7 on the forum but not very much. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any recent experiences with club7.
Thanks.
P. S It will be my first ever time doing this in a country outside the UK and this forum has been insanely helpful.
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[QUOTE=ShooBree;2725776]Whats the name of the hotel?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elbrens;2725580]So I went swiping on tinder. Matched with this syrian girl.
Talked a bit then exchanged Whatsapp. Agreed to meet on the same day. No specific arrangement agreed. She claimed to be a tourist. Here for 3 days already and 4 more days to go.
Met her at one of the upscale hotels on SZR. She immediately told me she wanted to go for shisha and didn't want to go out of the hotel and led me to this bar with a shisha place. Spent like 2 hours with her talking random stuff and she drank at least 8 glasses and ordered a shisha and all the appetizers they had. Figured out the bill would be crazy so I asked for the bill to leave - 4 k! Paid and went running feeling like a complete idiot. Couldn't really do anything or complain to anyone.
So clearly she's getting a cut of this money and clearly the drinks she ordered were not real drinks cz she was totally fine. Not even any signs of getting tipsy.
I feel so embarrassed actually. Although iv been mongering for many years.
Anyway. Watch out guys.[/QUOTE]There's been over a dozen posts written about this incident, but I have yet to see any answer to ShooBree's question, which is: What's the name of the hotel?
Something similar to this almost happened to me in Shanghai in 2012. Once the girl and I sat down in a private booth at the bar, the waiter gave me a drink menu but the girl ordered without looking at the menu. I immediately remembered a post about this scam on the Shanghai board, said "No" got up and walked out.
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Massage Update
[QUOTE=JohnWaynes;2720622]I'm not 100% where this should go, as there is an 'AMPS in other areas off Dubai thread'. Seeing as there are no Asians involved, and these are in the centre of Dubai, I hope this is the right place! I had to work out from your helpful reviews which places you were talking about. I understand why so have kept this up. I have only included quoted rates, not what I actually paid. I have also not named the girl. Thanks to the other posters for their info on massage places. I'm still keen to hear from people about their Dubai B2B experiences and what it included.[/QUOTE]The spa where 1 and 2 took place has unfortunately closed. They no longer post on Instagram and have not been online on WhatsApp. The first girl I saw gave me her personal WhatsApp number. Again has not been on WhatsApp for some time. I visited this week and everything is still there, just no people and a big closed sign. Very odd.
However, 2 new reports.
1. Spa mentioned on here many times and next to a McDonald's. A lake contains it. Did not book but turned up and they got the girls out for me to see. Chose one for 60 minutes - 180 AED plus extra 20 minutes foot massage. Was asked from the off whether I wanted to lie on front or back. Great massage while on my front with plenty of touching the sack and crack. Turned over and offered "anything" straight away. Went for BJ and she asked what I wanted to give. Brought my own condom, some great deep throat and face fucking and removed it to finish in her mouth. Asked if I wanted to go again but was happy with massage.
Face: 7. Great smile.
Body: 8. Great body. Be / see tits.
Photo likeness: ? Was send pics on WhatsApp but they were all filtered so I couldn't even tell which one this was.
Chat: 8. As much chat as I wanted.
Spa: 6. Big but dark.
Value: 9.
Massage: 8.
Overall: 8.
2. 4 words, last one spa. Sounds French or something. First word La. 3rd word like the guy who fought the Mekons. Brand new luxury spa. Only 3 rooms. Some noise from gym next door. Girl did not look much like her pictures. Very edited although she still looked ok. Not a great massage. On the turn went for topless. Was quoted 600 HJ, 1000 topless and 2000 B2B. Ok to cum twice, both times on her tits while she kneeled in front.
Face: 7. Ok but nothing like the pic.
Body: 6. Great natural tits.
Photo likeness: 3.
Chat:3. Barely any chat or banter.
Spa: 9. Very nice.
Value: 4.
Massage: 5.
Overall: 6.
I forgot to add to my earlier report that I have videod 2 of these massages now. If you don't ask you don't get!