Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;]
As for looks that's subjective. You can be the judge of that. Some guys will be offended by this but imo you need more game in Pattaya than BKK to get the top gogo girls. I see many gogo girls in Pattaya who decline drinks from older Farang so forget about them ever getting to barfine that girl. One girl at Tantra last night looked disgusted when a bald headed Farang in his 50s wanted to buy her a drink. She quickly sucked down about 5 shooters from him and as soon as the drinks ran out she bolted to a young Asian guy, ordering a full size drink.[/QUOTE]The best looking agogo girls did not even look at me when I was trying to get them for a drink.

It is just a cold fact that the hottest looking agogo working girls do not like old guys. Nothing new about that, just like in the normal life. An old fart is an old fart. Money can't change your face.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213482]The best looking agogo girls did not even look at me when I was trying to get them for a drink.

It is just a cold fact that the hottest looking agogo working girls do not like old guys. Nothing new about that, just like in the normal life. An old fart is an old fart. Money can't change your face.[/QUOTE]I'm old fat and ugly (albeit neat and clean with a winning and o so charming personality) and I ain't got a lot in my pants other than my bankroll. That's all I have ever needed.

I had a big birthday and my originals plans fell through so as a friend suggested, Nanapong Dollhouse Pattaya on the 20th! That was enough to go fu $k it I am going to Thailand for by birthday. I had a long layover in HK so I got the motor started there and the post is in the HK forum. Since my time was short to get to patts to make Nanapong I prebooked a car through Keak's service using line. 1100 THB and driver had a sign and was waiting for me, total time from plane to expressway under 30 minutes, wonderfully efficient (granted I had an express pass for immigration which helped).

If you haven't ever made a nanpong contest and are a fan of thai girls you really are missing a small piece of life. Contest was great, 2 for 1 drinks for at least the 1st half. Good staff and girls who really seemed to want to have fun. I should have probably secured something from dollhouse but being my first night I wanted to get around some. So my wingman and I stopped by Palace as he was previously impressed with the talent here. The girls were good looking as he had noticed, but the stunners were definitely gone already as it was around midnight. It's a bit fuzzy as I had a decent amount to drink at this point and it was the first night after 26 hours of travel but mistake #1 was letting the girl choose me more than I chose her. Unfortunately, I don't have her name or number and the rest of this will be brief just to highlight my mistakes. Barfined her without negotiations for later, mistake #2, though honestly, I am not some newbie and she knew that and I just didn't expect the scams, but that's on me. My group headed over to diablo and she was a lot of fun, though she was playing me hard with drinks for the DJ and such and I started to get that tingling on the back of my neck. Needless to say it goes downhill from her and she comes out with the I am on my period no sex shit. I should have dragged her ass back to the bar, but I was honestly out of energy at that point. I had a great time at nanpong and dollhouse and just didn't want to ruin my night. I was tired enough at this point I started back to my hotel when a freelancer on walking street propositioned me for 2 k I countered at 1500 she accepted and figured I would still get a round in. She was an all right night cap but some baby damage and definitely not what I would normally pick. Plenty of mistakes there on my part my luck has just never been that good in pattaya, just need to spend more time there to get a better feeling for it.

Day 2 I grabbed breakfast with friends and we browsed the massage shops on soi honey and what I think soi lengkee. The morning crews there are pretty decent given the price and honestly better looking than the evening crews. Rested some and wingman and I hit soi 6 around 4:30. Seems may have been a bit early yet as some bars were near empty and girls still trickling in. We walked it up and down and had a couple beers at various places and I spotted a SYT at ruby I liked and that was that. BTW, the soi6 bars had great twiiter feeds with new pics all the time. The session was better than average and she warmed up a lot with DATY. Had a great time with her and rooms at ruby are some of the nicest I have seen for short time rooms. Name was Far. I rejoined by buddy for dinner, Retox on soi honey Sunday roast, amazing value for 200 THB. We made another run down Soi 6 and significantly more to choose from, I wasn't ready to go again by my wingman pulled from pussy bar and enjoyed it. We headed back to dollhouse but neither of the girls from nanapong made it into work that night. The upstairs XXX was interesting and something I want to spend more time at in the future. We made a stop by sapphire as the twitter is always great and I pulled from there my 1st time in pattaya but the selection was really unimpressive, guess maybe since it was a Sunday in low season. We did a bit of meandering on walking street but my jetlag was really kicking in and sleep was looking better than a girl. I should have powered through but I had 2 weeks ahead of me and couldn't do it. We did a walkthrough LK metro but my heart just wasn't in it. Had a good sleep and headed back to Bangkok the next day.

Lessons Learned.

Spend more time on soi6. I still like gogo bars but I just don't see the value there these days and the performance and the bullshit just doesn't work for me. That being said I don't mean I am not going to them, but I feel like the better reward for me is more soi6. Also I feel like there is a lot to be said for experience in a place. I don't tend to have the issues in BKK anymore, but I am more comfortable there and tend to be able to filter it out better. Next, after recent posts I definitely want to play more online in pattaya with thai friendly and the other apps. Seems to be more effective there than in bkk. Lastly despite many years I need to negotiate more up front, in particular French kissing and BBBJ, if the girl isn't willing to do those then honestly I need to pass it up regardless of how hot she may be cause the experience just isn't going to be there for me. On to the BKK forums.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213482]The best looking agogo girls did not even look at me when I was trying to get them for a drink.

It is just a cold fact that the hottest looking agogo working girls do not like old guys. Nothing new about that, just like in the normal life. An old fart is an old fart. Money can't change your face.[/QUOTE]Scary part is that you are likely younger than well over 50 percent of the guys on ISG.

Imo age as a number significantly matters but the other factor is how you act. If I'm with a girl I like I act like a teenager. If I'm sitting in a gogo bar and none of my girls are there and there is no one new I care to get to know I act like a grumpy old fart.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2212425]Busting people for sex in Pattaya of all places is disheartening, have to admit. However, the important thing to note is that sex on the premises of the establishment (e. G. Above the bar) is illegal. Taking a girl to your hotel room should be fine, and I don't think they'll start raiding random hotel rooms anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Is there really a likelihood of a bar on Soi 6 being raided while one is upstairs with one of the bar staff? I hope not as Soi 6 and the short time rooms and girls are some of the highlights of my trip.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2213497]I'm old fat and ugly (albeit neat and clean with a winning and o so charming personality) and I ain't got a lot in my pants other than my bankroll. That's all I have ever needed.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously claiming that you can pull out every girl you want from the bars with your bankroll? I mean all of us can buy some pussy in Thailand but the topic was that the best looking agogo girls are mostly out of reach for old farangs nowadays.

By all means go to Palace agogo in WS and try to lure some of the young and best looking girls to your arms with your charming personality and your bankroll. And kindly post some pics after your success.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2213544]Scary part is that you are likely younger than well over 50 percent of the guys on ISG.

Imo age as a number significantly matters but the other factor is how you act. If I'm with a girl I like I act like a teenager. If I'm sitting in a gogo bar and none of my girls are there and there is no one new I care to get to know I act like a grumpy old fart.[/QUOTE]Sure it helps to have some sense of humour while chatting up the girls. But the girl has to like you in the first place. Otherwise it is game over.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2213467]So awhile back I posted about this girl, I devirginized that worked at Iron. Turns out that she keeps bothering me a bit. She sort of wants me to help her get turned into some type of porn star so she can make the big bucks. When I first fucked her and her friend, it was very lame with her and no BJ. Now she wants her skills to be adequate before she gets barfined again by the next customer. The other day last week, she messaged me early in the morning on LINE. She wanted to come to my room and practice sucking cock. Crazy thing is that she wasn't going to make me pay anything. I had her come over and practiced sucking dick and licking balls for at least one and a half hour. She was still no good at it and I didn't cum, but it was a fun experience to watch her pretty lips and face try to work that mouth. At times her teeth would chip at my skin and she kept gagging and tearing when she attempted deep throat. Lucky for me I put a towel underneath because there was spit everywhere. She tells me she needs more help practicing her cock sucking skills, but unfortunately, I am out in Japan for the time being. Best of all it's all free from her.[/QUOTE]You want only BJ, why you didn't go to one of those BJ Bars? There are special guides online for these bars. (Google) Try it.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213482]It is just a cold fact that the hottest looking agogo working girls do not like old guys. Nothing new about that, just like in the normal life. An old fart is an old fart. Money can't change your face.[/QUOTE]Oh, there's plenty [I]new about that[/I], at least when it comes to Pattaya.

Just ten years ago, it wasn't at all like that. In fact, girls were often saying they prefer older guys since they would typically be more generous, demand less bang for their buck, and are easier to hook in a longer term game. Of course, they normally say what a customer wants to hear, but there's usually at least a small grain of truth to it. Sure, they might prefer a young guy who pays big bucks, but such guys were rare unicorns and competition from other pretty hookers was plentiful.

This scene where decent-looking prostitutes are so scarce that they can BOTH be excessively picky about customers AND regularly get the sizable amounts of money is definitely a new thing in Pattaya. They rarely even try to play the longer term game anymore.

In the 2000's, I was relatively young (and handsome), and I remember being just slightly disappointed that I'm not really pulling any better chicks from bars or Beach Road than a 60-year-old drunken Hans with a huge beer belly. My consolations was that when I get old and decrepit, I'll still be pulling those hot Thai hookers. Alas, that is not to be.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2213587]You want only BJ, why you didn't go to one of those BJ Bars? There are special guides online for these bars. (Google) Try it.[/QUOTE]Did you read the posting etc. The reason I got was it was free and although looks are subjective I've never have seen anything close in a BJ or Gentlemen Club.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213580]Are you seriously claiming that you can pull out every girl you want from the bars with your bankroll? I mean all of us can buy some pussy in Thailand but the topic was that the best looking agogo girls are mostly out of reach for old farangs nowadays.

By all means go to Palace agogo in WS and try to lure some of the young and best looking girls to your arms with your charming personality and your bankroll. And kindly post some pics after your success.[/QUOTE]So your opinion is that that there stunner over. Wherever. Isn't going to go with a guy when exposed to a fat wad of cash? You got hansum men paying 5 K. Hows about when I tell the mamasan, Hey Mamasan, that there stunner over there, number 69, I want her, Ill give her 10 K for 10 minutes of sex, and I'll tip you 1000 and buy a lady drink for all of the girls.

Everyone in the industry has a price.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2213599]Oh, there's plenty [I]new about that[/I], at least when it comes to Pattaya.

Just ten years ago, it wasn't at all like that. In fact, girls were often saying they prefer older guys since they would typically be more generous, demand less bang for their buck, and are easier to hook in a longer term game. Of course, they normally say what a customer wants to hear, but there's usually at least a small grain of truth to it. Sure, they might prefer a young guy who pays big bucks, but such guys were rare unicorns and competition from other pretty hookers was plentiful.

This scene where decent-looking prostitutes are so scarce that they can BOTH be excessively picky about customers AND regularly get the sizable amounts of money is definitely a new thing in Pattaya. They rarely even try to play the longer term game anymore.

In the 2000's, I was relatively young (and handsome), and I remember being just slightly disappointed that I'm not really pulling any better chicks from bars or Beach Road than a 60-year-old drunken Hans with a huge beer belly. My consolations was that when I get old and decrepit, I'll still be pulling those hot Thai hookers. Alas, that is not to be.[/QUOTE]Absolutely 100% accurate.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2213629]Did you read the posting etc. The reason I got was it was free and although looks are subjective I've never have seen anything close in a BJ or Gentlemen Club.[/QUOTE]Yes I did, the last sentence sounds disappointing for me. I read it to fast and understood wrong. Now I read it again.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2213653]So your opinion is that that there stunner over. Wherever. Isn't going to go with a guy when exposed to a fat wad of cash? You got hansum men paying 5 K. Hows about when I tell the mamasan, Hey Mamasan, that there stunner over there, number 69, I want her, Ill give her 10 K for 10 minutes of sex, and I'll tip you 1000 and buy a lady drink for all of the girls. [/QUOTE]That might work. Worth trying next time when I visit Thailand. Just to check if there is a breaking point to these hottest girls. But I will leave the ladydrink part away since in the end I am not going to rent a girl for that kind of money. Just checking what is the price they are willing to go with me.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2213599]Oh, there's plenty [I]new about that[/I], at least when it comes to Pattaya.

Just ten years ago, it wasn't at all like that. In fact, girls were often saying they prefer older guys since they would typically be more generous, demand less bang for their buck, and are easier to hook in a longer term game. Of course, they normally say what a customer wants to hear, but there's usually at least a small grain of truth to it. Sure, they might prefer a young guy who pays big bucks, but such guys were rare unicorns and competition from other pretty hookers was plentiful.

This scene where decent-looking prostitutes are so scarce that they can BOTH be excessively picky about customers AND regularly get the sizable amounts of money is definitely a new thing in Pattaya. They rarely even try to play the longer term game anymore.

In the 2000's, I was relatively young (and handsome), and I remember being just slightly disappointed that I'm not really pulling any better chicks from bars or Beach Road than a 60-year-old drunken Hans with a huge beer belly. My consolations was that when I get old and decrepit, I'll still be pulling those hot Thai hookers. Alas, that is not to be.[/QUOTE]Good reply, thanks. I chose my words a bit hastily, my abiding shame.

I have not as long experience in Thailand as you do. Have only been travelling there for 10 years now. But I can see that there has been a change in the hooker scene during that period of time.

One new thing for me nowadays was also that some of the hot young agogo girls did not want to come to my hotel but instead go to "upstairs" room for a quick fuck. This is a no-go zone for me.