Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2212062]I saw Lala first time in 2016 at Sapphire. Admired her body and big natural tits. She was always wearing a top, never a bikini or lingerie. I tried to barfine her many times but she always refused. Said she does not do that. Probably just did not like my face. Eventually this year I managed to get her out of the bar to my hotel. She did not have as good tits as it looks like in the photos. Soft and slightly saggy, not firm enough for my taste to be ranked as top tits. Maybe she had a baby in between, I don't know. Her attitude was evil and it was one of the worst fucks I have ever had in Thailand. Such a waste of time and money.

The best natural boobs I have ever seen in Asia belonged to a girl who used to work at Iron club. She vanished from the bar but has made some fucking videos with a farang. Google search Tittiporn so you will see what caliber of melons I am talking about.[/QUOTE]You should have kept working at it because you were very lucky. Most guys don't even get to smell Lala's funky breath even after she has eaten spicy sum tom. Lala doesn't fuck many customers and you being able to stick your dick inside of her after all your efforts meant that she wanted to play a different game with you. Sometimes you have to swallow your ego and pretend to be stupid to play back with these Go Go bar girls. My first experience with Lala was went like this. I had previously tried and called her for a drink when on stage, but Lala only smiled and told the waitress to tell me she was already sitting with another customer. On my next night, she saw me sitting alone and came and sat next to me to talk. There was not much of a chase with her, because she had agreed to let me fuck her just after two drinks. I paid the 1500 barfine and she went to change. Keep in mind this was our first real encounter at Sapphire. I already had a good aura and reputation at Sapphire, so I'm sure that's why she was eager. Back in my hotel room on Walking Street, her performance was lame. She did not make even a slight sound when getting pounded and I had to beg her ass for a lousy 3 minute CBJ. She just laid there after that. She looked ta me and made me felt as if I was guilty of doing something wrong. It was like me fucking a dead corpse. I got so annoyed that when it came time for me to want to cum, I told her just to hand job me until I spewed on her big ole tits. Of course when it came close for me to unload, I aimed my pistol at her face and sprayed all my jizz on the side of her head and hair (she tried to dodge it). She looked a bit angry and ran to the shower while uttering some nasty Thai words. I laid there for a few minutes contemplating about my life, the stars, and the universe. Obviously, this girl was a hustler, I thought to myself. I can choose to close the chapter on her or I could play back. What was it going to be? Me being Monkeypaw and all, I decided to play back and play harder. When she came out, I surprisingly leaned over and gave her a quick kiss on the lips. She was shocked at my happiness, but did not kiss back. I then told her this was the best experience that I have had from the hottest Go Go bar girl in Pattaya. She looked dumbfounded. I took a quick shower and after I got dressed, I kept telling her repeatedly, how great she was and how sexy her body was. I handed her 3000 plus an extra 1000 tip and asked her if she wanted to go back to Sapphire with me for drinks. She smilingly agreed. We held hands with our fingers interlocking on the 2 minute walk all the way back to Sapphire. We then sat for the next hour sipping orange juice and sodas like it was our first date. I asked the waitress to bring me a hair brush, so I can brush Lala's long hair inside Sapphire. I wanted to get all the knots out that may have resulted in my cum drying on her hair. While I was brushing her hair, the other girls at Sapphire looked on. We sat in the top bench next to the stairways for the girl's locker room. It's a bit dark up there but still visible to the dancers. I told Lala how awful it must be that she has to work this job, getting groped by men, and then having to fuck them to support her family. She told me she had sisters that worked with her as well at Sapphire because they had a big family to take care of back in Isan. So long story short, I grabbed her again a few days later. Some of the girls had told me that Lala was a top end girl at Sapphire, so this time I grabbed her long time and paraded her around at other clubs to make her feel special and to show them that she was "Monkeypaw's girl. " Her performance that night was a bit better the second time around, but nothing to write home about. I still tipped an extra 500, paid her the full 5000, but let her go home early at 3 am. I think most know by now, I like to sleep alone with my teddy bear. I knew I wasn't ever I wasn't a quitter and kept at it. I even brought her some fish ball noodles and crab som tum for her to eat before she started her shift the next night. By her third barfine, I was sticking my middle finger in the her ass and introducing her to the "shocker. " That's a term I learned from my American buddies for "two fingers in the pink and one in the stink." I finally found out that this girl enjoys cumming when getting double penetrated. This is how she came with me. Her dick sucking skills were still horrible even without a condom, but at least now she moans when she fucks and allows DFK, and nipple biting. She even licked her own ass and pussy juices off my fingers when I shoved them in her mouth while missionary. Honestly, I think she forgot where they have been. Her skills amazing improved, but eventually after one week, I got bored and tired of playing with her. I swapped her ass for (pictured in order) Beer, May (my all time favorite at Sapphire), Khing and even Lala's sister, several months later. I without knowing, accidentally barfined and fucked one of her familial sisters that she works with, Ae. Of course, Ae fucked me almost exactly like her sister on the first time. Ae played starfish during the sex but did provide a 45 second BBBJ in which she cheated by wetting her fingers and pretending it was her tongue. Honestly, from the way she fucks, I think Ae and Lala's family must have gotten raised by dead possums. After our fuck session, Ae then told me that she will get better if I took her more often. I told her, she is like 24, so she has no excuse. Her sister is still a teenager, so Lala can always say that as a part of her game. I then said fuck that, and dumped her ass too, on the spot, no tip. Now, I got all 3 sisters at Sapphire mad at me. Even the short haired older one, whom I never fucked or even bought a drink for is mad. Still, I don't care. The legend of Monkeypaw will still continue. So whatever you do, don't quit on the hotties at the Go Go bars, that's why I mentioned the other 3 girls I immediately barfined at Sapphire. After Lala. Always keep shooting for the stars, just learn to play better.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2213599]Oh, there's plenty [I]new about that[/I], at least when it comes to Pattaya.

Just ten years ago, it wasn't at all like that. In fact, girls were often saying they prefer older guys since they would typically be more generous, demand less bang for their buck, and are easier to hook in a longer term game. Of course, they normally say what a customer wants to hear, but there's usually at least a small grain of truth to it. [B]Sure, they might prefer a young guy who pays big bucks, but such guys were rare unicorns and competition from other pretty hookers was plentiful.[/B]

This scene where decent-looking prostitutes are so scarce that they can BOTH be excessively picky about customers AND regularly get the sizable amounts of money is definitely a new thing in Pattaya. They rarely even try to play the longer term game anymore.

In the 2000's, I was relatively young (and handsome), and I remember being just slightly disappointed that I'm not really pulling any better chicks from bars or Beach Road than a 60-year-old drunken Hans with a huge beer belly. My consolations was that when I get old and decrepit, I'll still be pulling those hot Thai hookers. Alas, that is not to be.[/QUOTE]Maybe the solution is for us old dudes to take some of those young guys who come to spend big bucks here under our wing when we encounter them and teach them how to apply a little "game" to get well laid and blown by good looking girls their own age and younger back in their home country without having to fly many hours one way and racking up big bucks bar tabs and big bucks girl fees in third world countries to accomplish it.

Seems to me the current lack of knowledge about that has as much or more impact on the situation as anything.

According to my own experience, the scene in Pattaya defintely has changed. In the past, it was much easier to get the stunners. However, still it is not impossible, even for an older fellow like me.

I experienced several times when some of the prettiest girls came over to sit with me. Normally, I don't wave them down to come over or ask the mamasan. I watch them on the stage. If they look, I smile. If they smile back, there is a good chance they are going to sit with me. I have tried to barfine some of them, and in most cases it worked. In July, I had an experience with one very pretty girl at Pheromone gogo bar. After dancing her round, she came to me and was sitting with me for quite a while, drinking slowly from her normal size LD. I guess, she was the prettiest in the whole bar. At the end, I wanted to barfine her, but she refused. When I left, she was running after me and came to the door just as I was about to step out. She kissed me and said that she would come with me next time.

She didn't tell me, but I believe she must have had her period or something alike. In any case, I found it quite remarkable, since I am an old and bald guy. But I treat all the girls nicely, have some good sense of humor and smile to them. Also, I normally pay some LDs for them, and if they allow me to grab them all over, I give them some tip.

So, I think that despite age and being bald, there are some chances to get some really decent girls.

Wonderer. Never give up!

[QUOTE=Wonderer;2214093]At the end, I wanted to barfine her, but she refused. When I left, she was running after me and came to the door just as I was about to step out. She kissed me and said that she would come with me next time.

She didn't tell me, but I believe she must have had her period or something alike. In any case, I found it quite remarkable, since I am an old and bald guy. [/QUOTE]Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but although she was willing to sit with you as you continued buying her lady drinks she has no intention to allow you to barfine her next time you see her. It's what girls say so you keep coming to buy her more lady drinks. Yes its possible she eventually changes her mind but it's unlikely and, even if she does change her mind, it will likely be a poor session like that experienced by FF.

Nyezhov, yes almost every girl has a price but I bet your session will be crap with a girl who clearly doesn't want to spend time with you and is only going with you because you offered her an astronomical amount of money. Imo 10,000 baht is nothing in the big picture for a top end gogo girl. Their Japanese sponsors will hand that over in a blink of an eye and all they have to do is go hang out at Hollywood with them and go eat. At most, maybe some quick Japanese fetish sex.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213580]Are you seriously claiming that you can pull out every girl you want from the bars with your bankroll? I mean all of us can buy some pussy in Thailand but the topic was that the best looking agogo girls are mostly out of reach for old farangs nowadays.

By all means go to Palace agogo in WS and try to lure some of the young and best looking girls to your arms with your charming personality and your bankroll. And kindly post some pics after your success.[/QUOTE]No doubt when she is scanning the room age plays a role but I suggest more important is appearance (not unduly overweight), grooming, dress and general disposition I. E. Helps greatly if projecting congeniality with a Hello, there smile. That said if next to you is a 20 something K-pop lookalike you have just dissolved into the background.

The best looking girls who know how to work the room know all they have to do is show up to snag the best looking guys two three or more times a night. Over the years and some may disagree with this but in general I feel Asians have overtaken farangs as favorites for these girls. There is also a certain status especially among the younger girls as to who can get the best looking guys.

Oddly when it comes to boom boom in my experience when chatting to the girls they prefer the older farang who knows what he is doing and wants to please them along with getting his rocks off. But as the more experienced among us know sex plays a minor role in the selection process of working girls it's almost always about the money. Going back to the older farang beside the K-pop lookalike if grandad starts waving 10 large in her direction there's every chance she will be leaving with him next.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2213477]Good thoughts Cool. I was wondering the same.

This reminds me of a friend who visited Thailand for over 10 years. He was in his early 20's when he started. Finnish guy, young, blond hair, blue eyes, fit and overall handsome. He fucked the best looking civilians only. Never bothered with hookers because he could get better girls easily elsewhere. This is what I call a good game.[/QUOTE]Actually think about this. The average civilian girl will give up the ass with just dinner, drinks, and some dancing. Those girls aren't that in the tuned with life, still stuck in the fantasy world called wanting to be in a "relationship land. " Most of us can agree, stupid girls give up the pussy for free, especially since I've seen some of the quality that some guys have paid hard working money for. Seems to me, even ugly, old, fat, or junkies can make money off selling their asses and dumbass guys will still pay for it. And unless your friend spent nothing to fuck civilians. That means he just walks up to a random hot chick and says "let's get naked and fuck" and she did it, he still paid money for something. Now, the top end GoGo bar girls, they will eat guys up and fuck them out of their money, family, lives, and everything else. That's what I call good game. Besides, at the Go Go bars, you are also competing against 100 or so other guys and your own ego. So that's why being able to fuck civilians has nothing to do with landing the best Go Go girl in the club. Everyone, whether a customer or a Go Go girl, is just a player in this game, and the winner is the guy or girl who gets what they want, let's say 99% of the time. And of course they will always have the either the most trophy girls or the most prized customers. I'd really like to see someone to be able to on any given night, go into a Go Go bar, pick out a girl that you desire as the best looking girl in the entire club, write her dance number down, and then lastly BE ABLE to get that exact same girl to come suck and fuck you the very next night. It's called choosing your target and hitting a bullseyes. In doing so, you beat out all the other sub par girls who smiled at you, you beat out every other customer, and you beat out your own ego. I've had many wing men come with me to bars and pointed out who they thought were the best looking dancers. But when it came time to select, they always chose another. I wonder why that happens? Also, I know many nice looking guys who brag about thinking they have game because they have fucked a lot of civilian girls. I often invite them to Thailand with me. We go to a Go Go bar and I point out a specific dancer. We both agree that she is fucking hot! He requests to buy her a drink and she nods her head "no. " Again I wonder (sarcasm) why that happens?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2214112]Nyezhov, yes almost every girl has a price but I bet your session will be crap with a girl who clearly doesn't want to spend time with you and is only going with you because you offered her an astronomical amount of money. Imo 10,000 baht is nothing in the big picture for a top end gogo girl. Their Japanese sponsors will hand that over in a blink of an eye and all they have to do is go hang out at Hollywood with them and go eat. At most, maybe some quick Japanese fetish sex.[/QUOTE]555 dude, these girls don't want to be with any of us. It's a job. We are just ATMs.

And I don't want to spend time with her either. The last thing in the world 5 hat I would ever want to do is waste more of my limited bandwidth on this Earth by trying to relate to some mercenary uneducated stunner (a word well nigh impossible to define). I pay them to leave.

Here how about this game. Let's go to a bar, you find the stunner, and if she goes with me, you pay.

I live in Ekkamai right now, when do you want to hook up?

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2213749]You should have kept working at it because you were very lucky. Most guys don't even get to smell Lala's funky breath even after she has eaten spicy sum tom. Lala doesn't fuck many customers and you being able to stick your dick inside of her after all your efforts meant that she wanted to play a different game with you. Sometimes you have to swallow your ego and pretend to be stupid to play back with these Go Go bar[/QUOTE]Fascinating story, thanks.

My ego can handle rejections from agogo girls when I fail to barfine them but this was a bit different story since she agreed for a ST. But seems like you got the same starfish treatment as I did. This gives me some solace.

When I am on a week or two sex vacation I don't have enough time to begin to play games with these hot looking agogo hookers. If I would live in Pattaya then it would be a different play. Luckily there are still decent amount of good looking girls to be barfined who also give acceptable service even on the first booking.

Did you manage to snap any topless photos of Lala? I could not. Those would be refreshing to see.

I am back to pattaya on wendsday. I would like a thressome. Can I just pick out a girl on soi 7 or 8 and ask her if she has a frend to join us? How do I find one that will do lesbian stuff? Do I just ask? I am worried I will just get 2 girls that take turns. Is it a matter of luck getting the right kind of women or can I prepare better to get what I want?

Al so if I pick 2 girls on soi 6 do I pay double for the room?

Thanks for any advice.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2214241]I am back to pattaya on wendsday. I would like a thressome. Can I just pick out a girl on soi 7 or 8 and ask her if she has a frend to join us? How do I find one that will do lesbian stuff? Do I just ask? I am worried I will just get 2 girls that take turns. Is it a matter of luck getting the right kind of women or can I prepare better to get what I want?

Al so if I pick 2 girls on soi 6 do I pay double for the room?

Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE][URL]http://devilsdenthailand.com/in-call.html[/URL] offers threesome.

You can also go to the bars in soi6 and ask the mamasan. She knows her stuff and who is doing such action.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2214241]I am back to pattaya on wendsday. I would like a thressome. Can I just pick out a girl on soi 7 or 8 and ask her if she has a frend to join us? How do I find one that will do lesbian stuff? Do I just ask? I am worried I will just get 2 girls that take turns. Is it a matter of luck getting the right kind of women or can I prepare better to get what I want?
[/QUOTE]Don't be shy, you have to ask, ask and ask. And also be lucky. When you interview the girl you must be very explicit and explain in detail what you want. It's not a problem to have 3 some in Pattaya, the problem is to find a good lesbian stuff.

Or if you want win easy just go to Devil's Den, nowadays the service is pretty mechanic, overrated, overpriced and not PSE hardcore as in the past (IMHO) but with DD you don't waste your time looking around for lesbian / bisex girls.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2214112]Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but although she was willing to sit with you as you continued buying her lady drinks she has no intention to allow you to barfine her next time you see her. It's what girls say so you keep coming to buy her more lady drinks. Yes its possible she eventually changes her mind [/QUOTE]Allow? How does the game get messed up even with hookers? This makes it seem like the hooker is doing YOU a favor. If I go to McDonald's, do you think they will allow me to buy a hamburger?

Reminds me of the movie Life. These are White Only pies. Well do you have any Negro pies? I am here to buy a pie; either you are selling them or you are not.

If she works in a hoarhouse and is not trying to sell pussy then she is in the wrong place. It is riduliculous having to beg or coax someone in a hoarhouse to fuck you; a normal chick maybe, but not someone you have to pay any damn way.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2214236]My ego can handle rejections from agogo girls when I fail to barfine them but this was a bit different story since she agreed for a ST. But seems like you got the same starfish treatment as I did. This gives me some solace.[/QUOTE]It is not always a treatment. Just like anything else in life there are some people cut out and gifted for some things while being shitty at other things. Not everybody is skilled at fucking, no matter how much practice they have had. So I wouldn't go looking at it as they are trying to spite you or rip you off.

I mess with a normal chick in Dominican Republic that works at the bank corporate office. This chick even has a kid but still can't fuck for shit. I have hardly seen anything like it. For some reason she does not bend at the joints. So imagine trying to fuck a straight up stick person. We are friends and hang out and do stuff together, and she likes to fuck; but she is still bad at it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2214275]Allow? How does the game get messed up even with hookers? This makes it seem like the hooker is doing YOU a favor. If I go to McDonald's, do you think they will allow me to buy a hamburger?

Reminds me of the movie Life. These are White Only pies. Well do you have any Negro pies? I am here to buy a pie; either you are selling them or you are not.

If she works in a hoarhouse and is not trying to sell pussy then she is in the wrong place. It is riduliculous having to beg or coax someone in a hoarhouse to fuck you; a normal chick maybe, but not someone you have to pay any damn way.[/QUOTE]What would you say to those folks who contend that removing her choice to go with customers would then amount to human traffiking?

Surely you are not contending that she be forced to go with every customer even if she does not want to? If you agree that the girls should not be forced to go with every customer, then it sounds like you are in agreement that the girls should be able to refuse customers based on their arbitrary and capricious whims, yes? If that is the case, then I'm not sure what your point is here.

Perhaps you are contending that girls should not have a right to be individually racist or age-ist?

Agree with you on Devils Den.

Picked two, non-anal girls for an afternoon threesome. Once in the room, one of them went totally cold. Wouldn't agree to anything. The other one was good. So right in the middle of it I told the first one to get out of the room. I will have more fun without you in room, I told her. She immediately straightened up. Got involved enthusiastically then on. But this shouldn't be the way it should go down.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2214256]Don't be shy, you have to ask, ask and ask. And also be lucky. When you interview the girl you must be very explicit and explain in detail what you want. It's not a problem to have 3 some in Pattaya, the problem is to find a good lesbian stuff.

Or if you want win easy just go to Devil's Den, nowadays the service is pretty mechanic, overrated, overpriced and not PSE hardcore as in the past (IMHO) but with DD you don't waste your time looking around for lesbian / bisex girls.[/QUOTE]