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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1501104]I have a fairly known face into the FL discos in lower Suk and others. I have from very relaible sources that no streetwalkergirls are allowed entering clubs in this area. Reason; troublemakers, hiv positive and drugs or combinations.
I see many old punters comfort themself with sayings like girls like us as we do fasttrack (maby slow, hehe) service. I been browsing a couple of days ago spinners in Climax. My observations;
I have just turned 40 (maby look like 35ish) and I stand alone. I don't give any hints verbaly, smiley or behaviourly I want girls. I am a chemistrymaker and spend a lot of baths creating my safe haven at a table at the back. I see girls (in Climax) often with elderly guys looking at me and eyeballing. I have a nice fleet of drinks, vodkas and stuffs resting at my table and on manu occations I see girls leave oldies and hit me to have fun. I am a chemistry guy and a creater of good mood. I ask sometimes the girls why they stand next to the oldie and many times I hear they say they preferelably like to milk the oldie for some good money. What hits me is sth how cheap people are. Many travel half away around the globe to save and save and stand alone at a table hitting their half empty Carlsberg and did not know what hit them. Looking at my table with vodkas (bottles) girls for sure atleast think they will have more fun time at my table.
A sexworker is a sexworker and she flows with the possibility of good compensations. But oldies recieving better ladies than I do, hm, well I don't know. I have to say, when speaking of I. E Climax; this is my nr one spot for picking up FLs. I don't take girls away from their "dates" but they seem to leave their date and arrive at my table (I am sorry about this). I groom well and look fresh and young with decent fashion clothes. I am sure there will be girls for everyone but speaking of the best looking girls they also want some attraction believe it or not (my exp approx 8 years now)
I am a rather hardcore motherfucker and the girls know it won't be easy. I create good laughs, chemistry and enjoy when a girl realy takes her initiative and ask if we should go for bang bang. I never discuss money upfront but almost never did I hear questipns about it anyway. Ofcourse I do compensate girls. One girl a couple of days ago I did infact forget to pay any money as instill where drunk and she had to go off to work (late afternoon after multiple pops, cim and a+ service. I did infact look her up and reimburshed her later servicing reception at one of BKKs finest establishments (hotelwice). I know managment very well some places and in this case she was rather new to the scene and would never go older than 40. I guess exceptions where to be had. But she did recognice me from from staying at her workplace (very upscale hotel and nothing like the cheapies Landmark, T21, S 31 etc etc.
But to be frank there will be someone for everyone but no chance in hell they choose a old guy if they can have a rather young smashing one. My exp anyway.[/QUOTE]I am older guy mongering and spending good part of my last 15 years in Bangkok. I agrry with your aproch of having at least one bottle of whiskey in any club that I go, thats defenetly works in my favor 90% of the time getting girls coming to my table and opening conversations with me.
But disagree about freelancers in Climax. Most of the girls from beer garden gulliver and nana parking will end up in Climax or other sukhumvit disco.
Also I hate climax because its so dark that you can't see the faces of the girls with all that heavy make up untill you leave the bar and you see there faces in real light. Many times when the lights open up at the closing I dump the girl seeing her real face.
Sorry just my opinion,
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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1501104]I have a fairly known face into the FL discos in lower Suk and others. I have from very relaible sources that no streetwalkergirls are allowed entering clubs in this area. Reason; troublemakers, hiv positive and drugs or combinations.
I see many old punters comfort themself with sayings like girls like us as we do fasttrack (maby slow, hehe) service. I been browsing a couple of days ago spinners in Climax. My observations;
I have just turned 40 (maby look like 35ish) and I stand alone. I don't give any hints verbaly, smiley or behaviourly I want girls. I am a chemistrymaker and spend a lot of baths creating my safe haven at a table at the back. I see girls (in Climax) often with elderly guys looking at me and eyeballing. I have a nice fleet of drinks, vodkas and stuffs resting at my table and on manu occations I see girls leave oldies and hit me to have fun. I am a chemistry guy and a creater of good mood. I ask sometimes the girls why they stand next to the oldie and many times I hear they say they preferelably like to milk the oldie for some good money. What hits me is sth how cheap people are. Many travel half away around the globe to save and save and stand alone at a table hitting their half empty Carlsberg and did not know what hit them. Looking at my table with vodkas (bottles) girls for sure atleast think they will have more fun time at my table.[/QUOTE]Please hold my hand while I vomit.
I look at your table "with vodkas" and say to myself;
"ha ha. This guy thinks he is in a club in the real world. Not in BKK. Pathetic that he thinks he has to impress anyone"
JMHO dude.
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[QUOTE=Love Sex 22; 1501181]I am older guy mongering and spending good part of my last 15 years in Bangkok. I agrry with your aproch of having at least one bottle of whiskey in any club that I go, thats defenetly works in my favor 90% of the time getting girls coming to my table and opening conversations with me.
But disagree about freelancers in Climax. Most of the girls from beer garden gulliver and nana parking will end up in Climax or other sukhumvit disco.
Also I hate climax because its so dark that you can't see the faces of the girls with all that heavy make up untill you leave the bar and you see there faces in real light. Many times when the lights open up at the closing I dump the girl seeing her real face.
Sorry just my opinion, [/QUOTE]You are on target with your commentary about who freelances in Climax. Add the bar girls from Soi Cowboy, Patpong and Nana who can possibly bring a "customa" who might spring for some drinks or a bottle. Some guys have to believe they have discovered an oasis to be happy. Climax is just a freelancer gathering place for hungry girls and ladyboys. No special show is necessary for them. If you look fairly normal, you can have what you want and you don't have to have beautiful "vodkas" available. Anyone who doubts this, I will meet you there and prove my point. Just bring your vodka money.
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Current Situation in BKK
Demonstrations are spreading to outlying areas. They have vowed to take over every government building and topple Yingluck. The government has issued arrest warrant for Suthep Thaugsuban, but has left enforcement to Police. Police are doing little visibly (kind of like when you get pick pocketed) , but continue active program of fining motorsai drivers with no helmet. Suthep is leading marches and doesn't seem concerend over the warrant, as long as he has his security team around him. THB is up slightly today, but you can get around 31. 85 on the street. Come to BKK. You can go to discos where you can fantasize that you have picked up the girl next door.
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[CodeWord900] spa
was in thailand a few days ago and decided to try a variety of adventures.
most of the farangs here seem to go the common farang friendly places, but i wanted to try something else.
was reading on the thai forums (thanks google for sort of translating them) about various place and located one called [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] spa (about 15-20 mins walk from sala daeng bts station)
it's in a house in a suburban st, but there is a sign when you walk down soi 1 sala daeng.
the papa was very friendly and had no problems with me being there.
went around lunch time and only 2 girls avail (the one i was hoping to see wasn't on).
first girl wasn't my type, but the 2nd definitely was!
slim and almost perfect teen body (said she was turning 20)
now the prices are on the high side.
b2000 for 1hr massage and hj only.
in the room the extras are b1000 for cbj and and b2000 for full service.
since i was already rearing to go, took the full option.
very inexperienced and she was clearly not expecting a farang. maybe her first. not sure.
overall she tried to be accommodating, but kept holding her belly saying it hurt.
i tried to go relatively gentle and worked through a number of positions but they were all too much for her.
overall glad i tried. model quality. said she was from born in bangkok with mixed chinese heritage, and clearly a different class to the girls in the bars.
something different if you are a bit jaded from the bar and disco scenes.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1501184]I look at your table "with vodkas" and say to myself; "ha ha. This guy thinks he is in a club in the real world. Not in BKK. Pathetic that he thinks he has to impress anyone".[/QUOTE]Well it's no different than the lady drink thing. I pretty much agree with you though. My method is to wake up in the middle of the night, head to the disco, find someone I like, go up to them and say "Let's go." Sometimes she may say,"How much you give me?" Then I may have to negotiate. If not she will find herself with 1000-1500 baht the next morning. No names or bullshit formalities needed. I've never felt the need to wine and dine a hooker. Now if I feel like wining and dining myself and can't find a non-pro to tag along then that is different.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2; 1501184]Please hold my hand while I vomit.
I look at your table "with vodkas" and say to myself;
"ha ha. This guy thinks he is in a club in the real world. Not in BKK. Pathetic that he thinks he has to impress anyone"
JMHO dude.[/QUOTE]Not sure what is your vomit problem. Is he really trying to "impress" girls, or really just giving a single that he is not too cheap. He certainly is not trying to impress you. I give the bargirls signals that I am not too cheap also, one way or another, and therefore rarely have to discuss the price of a fuck. Then I can pay whatever was fair in my view.
Each guy just finds a method of operation that works for him and provides the satisfactory amount of illusion to get his enjoyment.
I really didn't like the music at Insanity and was bored by it, and I don't have time for discos. Climax was better for me in the past (more suited to my age group). I get girls for sex more directly and more quickly, which is usually MPs or bars. Still like looking at naked girls from time to time (not every day) , when they have great bodies that is.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1501080]"fit girls"?
Its not clear if you seek a girl with stamina, or big powerful legs, or tiny with skinny legs with wire like muscles, or extremely toned body with no fat.
I have not seen any extended "pole dances", mostly go-go girls holding a pole suggestively. I have met girls that worked out in the Gym regularly and had very strong legs, so I suggest you look in the fitness centres.
Long Gun and Suzi Wong used to have some fairly athletic dance routines that utilised the poles just a little, pole dance style. The best dancers left Long Gun some time back.[/QUOTE]Actually all of the above would be my answer. Well. Aside from the stamina issue. But yeah, pretty much any girl that has a tiny bit of muscle tone, usually around the lower body. I took dance lessons one time and the girls there had amazing bodies. Didn't do anything at all since I was in BKK for just a short time and took the dance lessons for my own amusement to try something new that was cheap.
One time I went to gym in the Lad Prao area and was hanging out with a girl that worked as a trainer. She invited me to eat, paid and all, but she was hard to score with since she either wanted to be friends (or to learn free English, maybe status, or just liked my company) or she wanted something more serious and didn't want to put out. Again, was there for short time so nothing could really develop. Didn't have the patience either when I could get my thrills in an MP, at Soi Cowboy and what not.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1501175]Sadly many Thai gals are "skinny fat." Thin but with very little muscle tone. Reason- Women who are toned get mistaken for ladyboys."Fit" has never really caught on here. That is too bad, as fit gals look great.[/QUOTE]This is kinda what I notice, though nothing like Phillipines from what I've heard. In Phills, I've heard most of the working girls in gogo bars are chubby to fat with little to no muscle in general, but that it wasn't too hard to find the really decked out extremely fit girl too since there were a good amount of professional pole dancers and many girls there did some kind of semi professional dancing growing up or gymnastics.
In Thailand, believe or not, I did find some athletic girls but it was a bit of a pain in the ass. One time I got lucky. I got a girl who was very fit with a good amount of muscle (no, not a ladyboy! LOL) almost like a cross between fitness and lightweight bodybuilder. Other times I would go to the gogo bars and try to find a bar / stage that showed the ass of the girls (many gogo bars have the girls wearing skirts most of the time) and go from there.
Maybe after going through 3 or 4 bars say in Nana Plaze, there might be a few that have a semi athletic butt (spinner body but actually had a TINY bit of muscle on their ass) and there would be a girl that would have an ASS to die for. Though nothing that would be consider like a fitness girl or college gymnast, but not far off either.
When I went to border of Isaan one time, I did notice that girls looked more fit and athletic than say in the South of Thailand or in BKK in general. It could still be a mothers tale but even Thai people say that Isaan guys / girls have a stronger build / more muscle from the farming culture.
But yeah, I do agree with you that it is pretty much skinny-fat with these girls. Kinda on the thin side, soft, and a flat ass.
I know this is not Brazil (looks like Rio may be too pricey to monger) but will go hunting soon in BKK and perhaps try to get pics. Lets see.
One country that has a TON of fit girls is South Korea! WOW. Really toned legs with some muscle. Thick but hard yet feminine at the same time. It was a head turner. For mongering Iv heard Korea sucks though for getting non-pros I've heard its not hard once you live there.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1501240]Not sure what is your vomit problem. Is he really trying to "impress" girls, or really just giving a single that he is not too cheap. He certainly is not trying to impress you. I give the bargirls signals that I am not too cheap also, one way or another, and therefore rarely have to discuss the price of a fuck. Then I can pay whatever was fair in my view.
Each guy just finds a method of operation that works for him and provides the satisfactory amount of illusion to get his enjoyment.
I really didn't like the music at Insanity and was bored by it, and I don't have time for discos. Climax was better for me in the past (more suited to my age group). I get girls for sex more directly and more quickly, which is usually MPs or bars. Still like looking at naked girls from time to time (not every day) , when they have great bodies that is.[/QUOTE]Vomit problem is that I get sick watching guys who think these girls are not prostitutes. Give them the money and they will fuck you. It is simple as that. It doesn't take a game plan, strategy or movement of chess pieces. The girls care about your money. If you have it and spend it. You get laid.
I realize very few guys are trying to impress me. Unless they are gay and like big dick. But impressing me would be a waste, because this hansome man only does ladies. Ha ha!
I don't need any illusion. I have spent a lifetime having fun with this and I am rarely disappointed. Because I know the game and play the way that gets me the highest quality for a fair price. I am well known in most places having been here for years. And rarely need a bottle or to tell anyone I am not cheap. When I enter climax the girls line up. Because they know I have cockroaches in my room and they are aroi. Mak mak!
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If any of you have been attenders of Suzie Wong for very long time, you might know one of the girls that first started at SW (Suzi Wong) quite a few years ago, called Bo. Tall almost no tits but a good waist to thigh ratio. Always did the lesbian show and had braces for quite some time. Was still at SW this year, after some long disappearances.
The news is that she is now working a rubber plantation in Nong Khai with her girlfriend who is a "Tom". That's right! Those who never believed that any girls did lesbian for real, better think again. I used to take Bo with another girl to do Menage a Trois at my Hotel (usually just ST). Bo would whisper to me which girl she had the hots for, and she had good taste usually (perhaps not always) , but Dtom was a common pairing as she was also into pussy licking and reckoned she was best at it."Nu" was another girl, with spiky hair (not my style as looked more like a Tom) , that was also a real lesbian, and perhaps a some others may have been Bi.
Anyway, I guess its not likely that Bo will be back soon unless gets very desperate for money.
There were a large contingent of girls at SW today and customer attendance was quite good, a bit short of real stunners, as some got BFed before I arrived at 9:20PM. Took the usual contenders, Noi and Knot. Yao had to miss out as I was feeling a bit below par and 3 would have been too much LOL. These 2 girls are not real lesbians and don't even do the lesbian show so they did not do each other, however having two working on you at the same time can be exquisite.
So my advice is same as for Crazy House and DollHouse. Get there early if you want the best lookers. Most girls at SW are a slimish but with puppy fat. Not too many sillies these days. The girls bring too much food to work and don't go for fitness like G. Scrot said. So not very toned. Noo Dee was a toned and very pretty girl, but not sure if she still works there or maybe retired already. I should ring her to check. However she doesn't perform as well for me as some other girls, so no rush.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1501337]Vomit problem is that I get sick watching guys who think these girls are not prostitutes. Give them the money and they will fuck you. It is simple as that. It doesn't take a game plan, strategy or movement of chess pieces. The girls care about your money. If you have it and spend it. You get laid.[/QUOTE]I don't give a damn about labels myself. Some girls are full time WGs and some are part time, when they need a bit of extra money. Some girls would never consider taking money for sex, but that seems to a religious conditioning to me. Many will change their minds if enough money is offered (obviously). Some girls are into taking money for sex, as they need it, but also will not go with just any guy. They have been seen to knock back many until there is one that appeals. Maybe this is rarer than I think but I have seen it, even in the Nana car park.
So I believe a small percentage of girls want it both ways. To have good sex, or at least spend their time with the guy quite tolerable, and to make money as well. There are girls with normal day jobs that are making some sex money on the side. It matters little whether someone chooses to label them as a Prostitute or not. I can be very relaxed about that. Its more important if they are a very nice girl into having some fun, or a dead fish fuck, or a really bad trickster type girl. Are they a good honest worker or not? (when they regard it as work).
There are girls that are too shy to discuss money and state "its up to you". Wish that was available on tap in my country. I have no delusions. I am not trying to pick up young girls for free sex. Many WGs are mouthing off how they hate all the young handsome men who seem to think they should get it for free. LOL.
Even WGs are known very occasionally (or outside the work place) to offer a guy a freebie if they are really into him big time. I have been offered freebies on very rare occasions from WGs or ex-WGs. They can be human too, not just paid robots. There is one ex-WG who wants to be my GF right now (and she does have money and property) , but unfortunately I would rather pay for it elsewhere. She is about 10 years younger than me, which maybe not quite enough for me.
Allow for endless variation in the circumstances of WGs. If you think they are no good, can stay away.
When a girl is very popular, you do need to have some strategy to optimise your chances that she will pick you amongst her options . Not all of us are happy with just any girl.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2;1501337]I get sick watching guys who think these girls are not prostitutes. Give them the money and they will fuck you. It is simple as that. It doesn't take a game plan, strategy or movement of chess pieces. The girls care about your money. If you have it and spend it. You get laid.[/QUOTE]It is not a question of getting laid. Sure, you can "give them the money [and nothing else] and they will fuck you." And I am sure a certain percentage of those kind of lays will be fine, this is South East Asia after all and not South Beach, but I want more. For me it is about the quality of the lay and maximizing my percentage of those quality lays that matter. So I tend to treat my girls pretty good. I think I get paid back many times over, but to each his own. Whatever rocks your boat.
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[QUOTE=Asian Lover Oz; 1501225]B2000 for 1hr massage and HJ only.
In the room the extras are B1000 for CBJ and and B2000 for full service.
Since I was already rearing to go, took the full option.[/QUOTE]Just to understand, this means FS cost B4000 for one hour?
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2; 1501337]Vomit problem is that I get sick watching guys who think these girls are not prostitutes. Give them the money and they will fuck you. It is simple as that. It doesn't take a game plan, strategy or movement of chess pieces. The girls care about your money. If you have it and spend it. You get laid.
I realize very few guys are trying to impress me. Unless they are gay and like big dick. But impressing me would be a waste, because this hansome man only does ladies. Ha ha!
I don't need any illusion. I have spent a lifetime having fun with this and I am rarely disappointed. Because I know the game and play the way that gets me the highest quality for a fair price. I am well known in most places having been here for years. And rarely need a bottle or to tell anyone I am not cheap. When I enter climax the girls line up. Because they know I have cockroaches in my room and they are aroi. Mak mak![/QUOTE]Hello Loversomething. Why you get offended of my writings? Atleast I hope you finish vomiting? I just state what is my exp during 8 years or so in specific Climax. I do most of my hunting outside known pussy areas like Climax ok? I cater more hi so places and do quite some pickups from modern, fresh BKK citygirls wanna just fuck and thats it antad younger but also tad older than me. Cheap Whiskey don't do it for top notche ladies. I am a regular pickup artist in famous venues in BKK known to regular girls beautiful like there is no tomorrow. I only cater girls above 165cm so all the small ones are yours(exceptions are to be had, hehe)..
But like you i can also do lowscale mongering. Sometimes I need to get feet on ground and not only act like keyboardwarrior. Reason simply bcs I need new stars for my photogallery. In Photogallery I would never put out pica from my real stunners (regular fleet babes). I am a rich guy also staying sometimes at Kempinski for approx 20000k a night if money is your issue(just go with the flow)..
But my girls never know, they pic me (mostly) , I pick them (who cares). I dress in Paul Smiths clothes, Prada googlies, an15000bht Diesel jean, Versace shoes(but have many outfits). I do see my pickups trust and care they will have good time. I compensate bigtime but accordingly to known limits + 1000 or so. Everything is deadcheap in LOS. Except from one or two ugly buglies from BG during the years (8 in BKK, MNL, CGK, HKG, PEK, PVG, New york (JFK / EWR) , KUL, HKG etc etc)DP purpouses and daytimefucks only i am happy without vomiting. To me everything is chemistry and i dont negotiate. Girls come and go rather regular but it is far easier beeing "young" and handsooome... Even if girls are freebies i take pride into compensate them as i will never fall from tactics "i looove you big time" or girls wanting relationship. LT sessions only and i do pay them to leave as some dont want to..