[QUOTE=Syzygies;2351812]She told me she had a herpes lesion not exactly on her pussy but close to it on occasions.[/QUOTE]That's why you need to do a full examination prior to DATY.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2351812]She told me she had a herpes lesion not exactly on her pussy but close to it on occasions.[/QUOTE]That's why you need to do a full examination prior to DATY.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2351812]Absolutely right there. I do not worry if I should ever catch another STD or not. Only that I would like to know about it in time to not pass it on, due to the stigma.
One girl stopped giving me BBFS years ago because I got some dick discharge, and I stupidly told her, in case she had transmitted it to me and maybe she caught it from her official BF. Yet she was the only girl I was fucking at the time (not in Thailand), and turned out she was negative (according to her).
Doctor said my dick thing was not an STD, I wouldn't know and cured quickly enough. No idea what it was now. So was a big mistake to say anything to her at all. Full disclosure is not the best policy. Better I got fully assessed and results first. Then I could decide to say nothing, was better.
She told me she had a herpes lesion not exactly on her pussy but close to it on occasions. I had no clue if was really herpes HSV2 or not. Did not look very serious. I thought maybe not and did not give a shit really. Did not scare me in the slightest for having sex.
So yeh, STDs no big deal really unless you happen to give it to your wife. Then there is psychological damage.[/QUOTE]That's why I will never get married, it's a waste of time. I just want to fuck until I die. Being in a monogamous relationship is very bad for health. Only problems. I have no feeling for love. Some people will think I am sick, I think they are losers. I don't want to live a stressful life. My work doesn't stress me because I love my work. Love is for weak people that are scared to be alone. Fucking girls is very healthy, sex is good for your neurological health, heart and immune system. I hate responsibility outside my work. People are scared of std because they are stupid and don't know the subject very well. There are many factors for stds like every disease. Stds are not supermutant. Many people have been having sex for decades and never had trouble with std. They talk about luck. I don't believe in luck, only stupid people believe in luck. I believe in healthy life and placebo effect. All humans are different, that's not because you contract chlamydia, that meas everybody having sex with the same girl will catch it and have problems with it. Never talk about the shit you got in your penis to a girls. When you are cured , you don't need to talk about the shit you caught. It's personal, telling your partners about it will ruin some relationships. you did not marry them, no need to tell them.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2352156]Didn't you say that at work you examine diseased cocks all day?[/QUOTE]I don't only examine diseased cocks, I love my work even when I examine diseased cocks. I examine and treat skin diseases. My two specialities are dermatovenereology and infectology. I now work as dermatologist / venereologist. I examine diseased genitals and other skin diseases every day. Balanitis, moles, staph infection, std and many other pathologies affecting genitals. I studied general medicine, dermatovenerology and infectology for several years. I also saw painless ulcers on the penis caused by tuberculosis or leishmaniasis. I have rarely seen chancroid, it's more prevalent in India and Africa where good hygiene doesn't exist. Cases of chancroid and other bacterial ulcers decreased in Brazil but they are mostly seen in people living in poor rural areas.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2351908]That's why you need to do a full examination prior to DATY.[/QUOTE]I do make thorough examinations in terms of fingers in pussy and visually LOL, as I love feeling up pussy in detail (exceptionally beautiful and great feeling pussy just last night), but we are not all as scared of microbes as you.
For that girl long ago, I saw her small lesion / scab on the lower ass and it did not look serious (less serious than the average cold sore by a long way). She stuck a band aid on it. I did not care and fucked her BB anyway. I was not expecting to catch anything nasty. It was not even in the pussy.
If a girl has a bad discharge from pussy, I would not fuck her, or if vaginal warts, I would not do BBFS. DATY is great to help find out if something is amiss. She won't taste and smell great if something is wrong there I reckon. Fingers and DATY, all part of the exam (even if very non professional).
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2352109]I have no feeling for love. Some people will think I am sick, I think they are losers. I don't want to live a stressful life. My work doesn't stress me because I love my work. Love is for weak people that are scared to be alone. Fucking girls is very healthy, sex is good for your neurological health, heart and immune system. I hate responsibility outside my work. [/QUOTE]Of course is not sick. Very sensible. Its weak guys like me that accidentally get too attached to girls, and in case of one, she accidentally became a GF, despite neither of us intending / expecting it to be long term originally. Now we reach 15 years with some minor separations long ago. Our relationship even improved in last 3 years such that my mongering has declined a lot.
Its not strange to like multiple girls a lot too. Why should we stick to just one? Makes no sense, other than to save money if she provides good enough sex.
I swear she is to be my last GF. If we should split, I would be "bonkers" to get a new GF replacement. We acquire responsibilities for too many persons, if we are not careful.
For guys that never repeat girls or rarely and always moving on, I do wonder why they could never find any girls that were really satisfying. They have to realise that not every new girl tried can be as good or compatible as some already done before. I prefer to keep the really good ones going as long as possible. The variety of several superior girls can be enough.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2349631]Cervical cancer is on the rise, I don't think HPV is the main cause. Many women get vaccinated for HPV but still get cervical cancer. [/QUOTE]Do you have theories as to likely main causes? Not arguing here, just seeking info, since I know a girl with such cancer at a young age? Could it be related to chemical sprays on the farm, bad diet with non natural foods, sexual activities, etc. I don't know really, but have to suspect pussy infections contribute a lot, or bad uterus bruising.
I know another Thai girl that died from cancer of ovaries, not a hooker at all, very proper, but just unlucky I guess (I forgot you don't believe in luck but I do). She did not do anything wrong that we are aware of. Just risks of normal life in Farang countries, she studied in France. She originated from deep south of Thailand, but moved OS as a teenager.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2352513]Do you have theories as to likely main causes? Not arguing here, just seeking info, since I know a girl with such cancer at a young age? Could it be related to chemical sprays on the farm, bad diet with non natural foods, sexual activities, etc. I don't know really, but have to suspect pussy infections contribute a lot, or bad uterus bruising.
I know another Thai girl that died from cancer of ovaries, not a hooker at all, very proper, but just unlucky I guess (I forgot you don't believe in luck but I do). She did not do anything wrong that we are aware of. Just risks of normal life in Farang countries, she studied in France. She originated from deep south of Thailand, but moved OS as a teenager.[/QUOTE]Many things can cause ovaries cancer. Life is like a game, something will kill you but what?. For example, some diabetes and hiv medication increase the risk of cervical and anal cancer, having lowered immune system increases the risk of cervical cancer and many other things. There are so many factors. You were born healthy, I don't believe in luck. Most diseases are environmental. But if you have diabetes type 1, you were unlucky but if you have diabetes type 2, you fucked up your body. I don't believe in luck for environmental diseases. Having congenital heart defect is bad luck, being born healthy is good luck, having heart disease as a healthy person late in your life is not bad luck, you just fuck up your body. I contracted tuberculosis at 12 , to me, it's not bad luck. My body was too weak to figh off the germ and I did not listen to my parents. A few bone cancer, blood cancer and brain cancer in children are bad luck. Being born with anemelia and hemophilia is bad luck. Being born blind or limbless is bad luck. As I said, most diseases are environmental and I don't believe in bad luck for environmental diseases. Medicine is very good to treat people born with some health problems, people with injuries, accidents, gunshots, to help people for skin, bone and body contrustion (burnt people, people losing a limb during the war or broken bone because of an accident) or treating people with agressive bacterias. I don't believe in preventive measures. You may have diabetes and never have problems with diabetes because people are different. You may have tuberculosis and never develope active tuberculosis (having latent tuberculosis and having treated tuberculosis are the same because blood results are the same, there is no proof antibiotics are effective at treating latent tuberculosis because the blood results are the same as people with untreated latent tuberculosis. You may have hsv never develop herpes, you may have cancer and be in remission without medication. I believe in human immune system. It's the most magical thing that exist in this world. I am a jew, believing in our body is important in our religion. God gave you immune system not for decoration but to fight off envaders and keep your body healthy. Like british army fighting against german envaders. LOL I believe in science but also believe in human body. I am not a fucking sheep, I always want answers and I am not blinded by many things. Many doctors are not blinded by many things. Only stupid sheep doctors and dishonnest doctors are dangerous. That's why it's important to visist many doctors and choose the one that matches you best. Having a good relationship with your doctor is important, when you have doubts , it's good to talk about your doubts to your trustworthy doctor. ( a doctor that's open to every medical conversation), a doctor that can advise you well. Most doctors don't give a shit about their patients. Your health has no cost.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2357205]That is indeed not the truth and yet we don't see many reports here about STD-infested girls. The risks of barebacking are often exaggerated.[/QUOTE]How many active users here post regularly? How many will admit to receiving an STD? All there is to go by are local publications that report the statistics, whatever they may be. It'd be interesting to see if someone can share that information and confirm the source.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2357234]I cut the citations a bit short but clearly two opposing views. It is mostly about statistics. If everybody uses a condom the risk of spreading diseases is low but not zero. Even the use of a condom doesn't bring the risk of transmitting a disease to zero. A broken condom is an obvious reason but touching each others genitals can transmit some diseases as well, for example. I once had a disease because a girl reused a condom! So, that's why I like to bring my own. If nobody uses a condom the risk of spreading diseases is much higher but not 100%. For example: both partners do not have a disease. What is actually happening in the population at large is that the people using condoms are protecting the barebackers. As long as there's only few people barebacking the risk is low due to the large majority using condoms. That has an equivalent to vaccination percentages. If a sufficiently large proportion of the population is vaccinated against a transmittable disease the few people that do not have the vaccination are protected by the overall vaccination grade. About 95% or higher is usually considered safe in Holland. Personally I like to be as safe as I can be and use a condom. So both fellow members are right in their own way, but without much substantiation.
One more thing about AIDS. Heterosexual men send their fluids and are not at high risk. But it is not 0%. Remarks about it are often dramatized or are playing down the risk too much. Just use statistics and take your pick. What side do you want to be on.
BBBJ is not without risk either. I had gonorrhea from a girl that actually put my dig too deep in her mouth, touching her throat while doing it. That can transmit the disease.[/QUOTE]This is a great post. The only thing to add is who knows what the percentage of condom users are; 49%? 50%? 51%? 75%? 90%? 30%?
The good news is that there are thin or thinner condoms on the market right now. Rather not get a girl knocked up.
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A lot of bargirls will have boyfriends who they do bareback, and their BF will pretty much bang anything they can with the money his girl gives him. Don't forget a lot of bargirls are working in the industry because their Thai BF knocked them up and dumped them.
My thoughts on the HIV situation is that back in the 90's most girls who got HIV was due to drug use, they were doing heroin back then and sharing needles. There are no needle exchanges in BKK and I doubt back then, or even now, you could just go to the pharmacy and buy needles. These days if girls are using drugs it will be Yaa Baa, Thaksin put a big hole in the drug scene when he gave the BIB open slather to deal with the issue.[/QUOTE]Good point about the BFs, however I think the drug thing is a little exaggerated. It may be true that drug users were far more likely to catch Aids. Yaa Baa was the main drug years ago, these days Ice more popular I think (last I heard). My Mrs does Ganja and beer in recent years (never when I first met her). Can make a girl horny (if good quality).
Every Thai village has several examples of people who died from Aids. Some Thai children lost both parents to Aids. Naturally is it quite difficult to determine exactly which acts every Aids case had done. The Thai men could well have been doing Needles or anal sex. The wives could have go it from husband from anal or even normal sex. Even it is difficult for a guy to catch HIV from a woman, the reverse is not so difficult.
Hookers that have been doing Thai men BB for 10 to 20 years plus were highly likely to have their luck run out sooner or later. I know of one such girl who was friend of a friend back in 1991. May be still quite good looking in her late 40's, assuming the HIV is well treated.
Its easy for guys to want to BB the girl's pussy because our risk is way smaller than the accumulated risk the hooker faces, by doing it indiscriminately with too many men for too many years, or they could get unlucky very young. Girls could cut their risk significantly by wanting to see guy's test results. One girl wanted to see my test results regularly but now she decided she doesn't want to risk it any more. Of course there are plenty of other diseases easier to catch by a huge margin.
The figures for new HIV cases in Thailand has been dropping for many years now, so the risks must be getting less and less.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2357620]Good point about the BFs, however I think the drug thing is a little exaggerated. It may be true that drug users were far more likely to catch Aids. Yaa Baa was the main drug years ago, these days Ice more popular I think (last I heard).[/QUOTE]I was thinking back to the 90's when HIV was becoming more well known. I was in and out of BKK a bit back then and heroin was the choice drug. These days cheaper and easier alternatives for getting high exist so I'd say that would have decreased HIV transfer via blood. Clearly this is a far more complex issue than we can fully understand.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2357620].............The figures for new HIV cases in Thailand has been dropping for many years now, so the risks must be getting less and less.[/QUOTE]Because of greater condom use over the years. HIV in Thailand was not home grown, it came from foreigners.
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The good news is that there are thin or thinner condoms on the market right now. Rather not get a girl knocked up.[/QUOTE]I ordered the Okomoto 01 Large condoms, which I got from Japan via eBay. Fortunately, I opened one up to ensure it was OK prior to leaving for Thailand, and it was quite thin, similar to the Sagami, but I could not put that thing on without unrolling it and slipping it on with some lube. I then realized that they sent me the regular size. I am perfectly average in size, but had to send them back to Japan. Poor guy in Japan. I spend $56 on condoms but it cost half of that to send them back but, per eBay rules, he clearly sent me the wrong item so he had to pay for the return postage. I reordered from an American supplier and got the correct size in, and they fit me well, meaning you larger dudes might find them too small relative to other Large sizes. But in my simulation, they were quite sensitive so I am looking forward to trying them out next week. Many of you know I have great difficulty coming with a condom. Even other 02 and 01 sizes, and while I will normally decline any offers to go bare, I do occasionally give in when the sexual frustration is too great. I am hoping this brand will be sufficiently sensitive so I am not so tempted. At some point my luck will run out.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2357715]Because of greater condom use over the years. HIV in Thailand was not home grown, it came from foreigners.[/QUOTE]HIV came from foreigners everywhere except in the jungles of central Africa (there, it presumably came from moneys and mutated to infect humans). However, it's safe to say an overwhelming majority of HIV+ Thais were infected by other Thais, not by foreigners.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2357859].............(there, it presumably came from moneys and mutated to infect humans)....................[/QUOTE]Moneys financed AIDS alright. Money was also responsible for its spread in Thailand.