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[QUOTE=Canada;2549485]A friend of mine is a supervisor in Ajo, Az area for border patrol. He has been there 31 years. He said that he has never seen it this bad in 31 years. He said it was working great under Trump. They caught the 2 terrorists but he said they are only detaining a small portion so they know that some have gotten in. They have had to close 2 checkpoints in AZ because they don't have enough agents to look after the detainees. He said drug cartels are trafficking children to cause a diversion to occupy agents so the drugs can flow in. He also said Mexico will not take back any of the children and families with children so they are released into USA. This info is from the border patrol.

Biden solution is to not look for himself but to appoint VP Harris to look after it because it isn't a crises. Harris solution is to not go to the border but ignore it hoping it will just go away. Biden blocks the press from going to look although the liberal press ignores it also.

How can you saying Biden is doing his job when he won't even go to the border. Do you really think this is good for USA. Do you?[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is you have a disgruntled border patrol friend!

So the border situation is more important to you than helping the poor and homeless given that would be socialism and you can't do anything to help people in need because your tax rate might go up.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2549612]So what you are saying is you have a disgruntled border patrol friend!

So the border situation is more important to you than helping the poor and homeless given that would be socialism and you can't do anything to help people in need because your tax rate might go up.[/QUOTE]A secure border should be the most important thing a citizen wants. I think every border patrol agent is disgruntled and will tell you the same thing. The border situation was the best ever under Trump administration and Biden has made it the worst that it has ever been in history. You can go to the border and ask any of the overworked and overwhelmed border agent. But like Biden and Harris you won't go to the border to see for yourself. You will do what Biden and Harris are doing. NOTHING!

Biden campaigned on helping the poor and to cure the homeless problem. But he has done nothing but pour money into illegals.

Biden is more interested in his $2 billion infrastructure stimulus that is only about 20-30% for actual infrastructure and around 75% for bailing out poorly run democratic states. Go online and read it for yourself.

I know you are a good socialist but I ask you one question. You are for an open border because you say no criminals will enter the USA but do you lock your doors in your house when you leave and do you lock your car when you park it? If so then you are a racist. You must think Americans or illegals are going to steal from you. Illegals are coming into the USA and stealing your jobs, your tax dollars and maybe your life.

Are you that stupid or you just trying to impress the other idiot socialists on this site that don't understand that today USA is the only country in the world that takes these illegals and feeds them, puts them up in hotels and gives them government subsistence. Do you think you could sneak into another country without going through a controlled border crossing? Do you really think if you were caught illegally entering another country they would feed you and put you up in a hotel. They would kind of. It is called prison.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2549268]Republicans are way too busy, trying to disassociate themselves from good ole boy, Matt Gaetz.[/QUOTE]Yes I am sure you think Gaetz is guilty but Cuomo, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are innocent. Typical socialist.

[QUOTE=Canada;2549645]Yes I am sure you think Gaetz is guilty but Cuomo, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are innocent. Typical socialist.[/QUOTE]You are trying to call somebody names because of something he has never said?

I think they are all guilty of stuff.

Some of them seem too old to be so horny.

[QUOTE=Canada;2549643]A secure border should be the most important thing a citizen wants. I think every border patrol agent is disgruntled and will tell you the same thing. The border situation was the best ever under Trump administration and Biden has made it the worst that it has ever been in history. You can go to the border and ask any of the overworked and overwhelmed border agent. But like Biden and Harris you won't go to the border to see for yourself. You will do what Biden and Harris are doing. NOTHING!

Biden campaigned on helping the poor and to cure the homeless problem. But he has done nothing but pour money into illegals..[/QUOTE]I've never said that I advocate an open border. The border is not open. People are being detained and or repatriated.

You are trying to say the borders are open but it is simply not true.

Yes in any civilized country they will feed you.

Here are the actual facts:

Posts spreading on social media are making misleading claims in an effort to criticize an initiative by the Biden administration to use hotel rooms for migrant families arriving at the border.

The Biden administration is immediately expelling most people stopped trying to cross the border without legal permission. Those expulsions are happening under Title 42, a public health rule put in place by the Trump administration at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. But some places in Mexico are not allowing expelled migrant families to return. Those families are instead processed in the United States, where they face immigration court dates and deportation unless they win their cases.

Under federal policy, children are not supposed to be held in Border Patrol facilities for longer than 72 hours.

Over the weekend, Tae Johnson, acting director for USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, announced the agency had entered an $86.9 million contract with Endeavors, a nonprofit organization, to provide 1,239 beds at hotel rooms and other services to migrant families who are not expelled at the border.

"Families will be provided clothing, meals / snacks, access to medical care, legal counsel, unlimited phone access, and individual rooms for appropriate physical distancing," reads a statement from ICE.

The new contract will provide families with hotel rooms while they are being processed, and will also include three meals a day, COVID testing, legal services, transportation, clothing and other expenses.

Sorry but you are the least reliable source on the planet for providing facts.

[QUOTE=Canada;2549645]Yes I am sure you think Gaetz is guilty but Cuomo, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are innocent. Typical socialist.[/QUOTE]I am sure that Cuomo has behaved improperly, I'm sure Joe Biden has not and I don't care about Hunter Biden he is being investigated, if he has done something illegal then he can suffer the consequences, unlike Roger Stone, Papadopolus, Bannon, Flynn, Manafort. Was their anyone working for him that wasn't a criminal?

Now Trump can't avoid his defamation suits about his sexual assaults, they are lining up against him for fraud, election interference and inciting a riot. It seems you hero worship conmen and criminals!

[QUOTE=GDreams;2549757]I've never said that I advocate an open border. The border is not open. People are being detained and or repatriated.

You are trying to say the borders are open but it is simply not true.

Yes in any civilized country they will feed you.

Here are the actual facts:

Posts spreading on social media are making misleading claims in an effort to criticize an initiative by the Biden administration to use hotel rooms for migrant families arriving at the border.

The Biden administration is immediately expelling most people stopped trying to cross the border without legal permission. Those expulsions are happening under Title 42, a public health rule put in place by the Trump administration at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. But some places in Mexico are not allowing expelled migrant families to return. Those families are instead processed in the United States, where they face immigration court dates and deportation unless they win their cases.

Under federal policy, children are not supposed to be held in Border Patrol facilities for longer than 72 hours.

Over the weekend, Tae Johnson, acting director for USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, announced the agency had entered an $86.9 million contract with Endeavors, a nonprofit organization, to provide 1,239 beds at hotel rooms and other services to migrant families who are not expelled at the border.

"Families will be provided clothing, meals / snacks, access to medical care, legal counsel, unlimited phone access, and individual rooms for appropriate physical distancing," reads a statement from ICE.

The new contract will provide families with hotel rooms while they are being processed, and will also include three meals a day, COVID testing, legal services, transportation, clothing and other expenses.

Sorry but you are the least reliable source on the planet for providing facts.[/QUOTE]The border patrol agents are overwhelmed and understaffed do obviously overworked. 170,000 people tried to cross border illegally in March. All of them came because when Biden was elected he said he was going to overturn Trump immigration policy that they must remain in Mexico until their court date. Biden reversed this and people are flooding the border. That is a fact. Biden can solve it by returning to Trump immigration plan that was working. Very few if released in USA return for their hearing because they know that if they aren't accepted they will be deported. Most of them are not eligible for asylum as they passed through Mexico which is first country they entered.

Border patrol agents are spending most of their time at the detention centers because there are to many detainees for the facilities do criminals, cartels and human traffickers are taking advantage of area that are not patrolled because of lack of agents. Check points are closed to staff the detention centers.

Do you think any other country in the world feeds and gives hotel rooms to people who try to sneak into there country? All will be deported but in most countries they go to prison.

This is what the border patrol agents are telling congress. Only the GOP are actually going there and listening. A few democrats from congress have gone to the border but they know better than the border agents.

Why do you think that Homeland Security and the border patrol agents are lying.

Do you think that 170,000 people is not real?

Do you think the agents can handle 170,000 people per month when last year it was 20,000?

Do you think none of these are criminals, cartel, human traffickers?

Maybe next month it will be 300,000.

You tell me! What is the solution? Do you really think Biden and Harris plan of ignoring it makes it better?

Don't you think Harris should at least go to the border and see for herself the issues since she is in charge of this?

Why do you approve of 170,000 people arriving illegally every month?

[QUOTE=Canada;2549645]Yes I am sure you think Gaetz is guilty but Cuomo, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden are innocent. Typical socialist.[/QUOTE]Quite the opposite. I'm more than happy to see politicians who engage in criminal activities, vetted through the our justice system and if found guilty, get the appropriate punishment they deserve.

Due to the heinous nature (of two charges that we know about) w/r to the alleged crimes of underage sex and sex trafficking, being investigated and brought to bear against Matt Gaetz, it may behoove Republicans to distance themselves. Any smart politician would, whether they be Dem. or Rep., it's just the nature of the game.

But it's widely reported (something he denies of course), that Matt Gaetz, with his tails firmly tucked between his legs, ran to the [B]"orange throne"[/B] and [B]"bent the knee"[/B], begging for a "blanket pardon". Why you ask? Well we'd all like to know that too.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2549760] . . . Hunter Biden he is being investigated, if he has done something illegal then he can suffer the consequences, unlike Roger Stone, Papadopolus, Bannon, Flynn, Manafort. Was their anyone working for him that wasn't a criminal? . . . [/QUOTE]Yep, nice "get-out-of-jail-free-card", if you can get it. Perhaps Mr. Gaetz didn't pony-up enough scratch to convince the "orange throne", he was worthy or loyal enough.

Just to be clear, if and when Biden, gives out pardons, to Cuomo, Hunter or himself, I'll be the first to call him out on it.

[QUOTE=Canada;2549890]Do you think any other country in the world feeds and gives hotel rooms to people who try to sneak into there country? All will be deported but in most countries they go to prison.

Do you think the agents can handle 170,000 people per month when last year it was 20,000?

Do you think none of these are criminals, cartel, human traffickers?

Why do you approve of 170,000 people arriving illegally every month?[/QUOTE]1. Many countries do not put these people in prison. Often they are sent to camps.

2. What cry babies. Apparently they can count to 170,000 so yes I guess they can handle it. Its their job, if the don't like it they can quit.

3. Of course some of them are criminals and yes they are detained and expelled as has always been the case.

4. I have no say in who arrives. Why are you falsely saying they are allowed to enter and stay?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2549579]I bet you support the Biden / Democrat / fake media-promoted covid passport, which entails govt surveillance, identification and tracking of every move that anyone makes. And yet you simultaneously think voter ID is "racist". LOL. Classic leftist cognitive dissonance.[/QUOTE]Once again you are deflecting.

Filing a tax return does not require a photo ID. Using you logic there should be massive frauds in tax refunds with millions of refunds being sent to the wrong people because of a lack of photo ID. Yes, there IS fraud but mostly from identity fraud. And most folks who steal an identity secure a photo ID.

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[QUOTE=Canada;2549890]The border patrol agents are overwhelmed and understaffed do obviously overworked. 170,000 people tried to cross border illegally in March. All of them came because when Biden was elected he said he was going to overturn Trump immigration policy that they must remain in Mexico until their court date. Biden reversed this and people are flooding the border. That is a fact. Biden can solve it by returning to Trump immigration plan that was working. Very few if released in USA return for their hearing because they know that if they aren't accepted they will be deported. Most of them are not eligible for asylum as they passed through Mexico which is first country they entered.

Border patrol agents are spending most of their time at the detention centers because there are to many detainees for the facilities do criminals, cartels and human traffickers are taking advantage of area that are not patrolled because of lack of agents. Check points are closed to staff the detention centers.

Do you think any other country in the world feeds and gives hotel rooms to people who try to sneak into there country? All will be deported but in most countries they go to prison.[/QUOTE]The Biden-Harris plan is better than the trump "let's machine gun them before they get in" plan.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2550001]1. Many countries do not put these people in prison. Often they are sent to camps.

2. What cry babies. Apparently they can count to 170,000 so yes I guess they can handle it. Its their job, if the don't like it they can quit.

3. Of course some of them are criminals and yes they are detained and expelled as has always been the case.

4. I have no say in who arrives. Why are you falsely saying they are allowed to enter and stay?[/QUOTE]1. No countries let families stay and feed them and put them in hotels.

2. Yes they can quit just like the Portland police are quitting and the more that quit the more danger your country becomes. This is a fact.

3. Do you really think 170,000 people tried to get in the USA and everyone was detained. At least 20,000 people per month are not caught and detained. Maybe these are the criminals.

4. Mexico will not take back any kids or families with children so all of these are allowed to stay and are being released into USA. Tucson, Az is setting up a tent camp at their fairgrounds to put thousands of illegals who have already been released. There are numerous homeless camps there also so basically it just increased the homeless.

3% of all the illegals that enter will actually show up for their hearing in Arizona.

I realize you support this immigration and defunding the police and getting rid of ICE but I wonder if you really are a good socialist why aren't you helping the peaceful protesters burning down the federal buildings in Portland. Defunding the police really has helped the criminals in all the democratic cities so I suppose Border Patrol agents quitting will help the criminals at the border.

Why are you defending such a reckless agenda? How does this help the economy, USA citizens or the blacks and the poor? Why do you want to see the USA fail? I realize that you don't honor the flag, you don't stand for the national anthem and you think all white people are racists but why do you want to see all the minorities in USA suffer too?

You have a say in who strives in USA. You elect leaders that protect America not ruin America. You are as much to blame as who you voted for.

"No refuge could save the hireling and slave. " The SSB consists of enough semi tones to make it difficult to sing, That's not why this verse is omitted.

[QUOTE=Canada;2550211]1. No countries let families stay and feed them and put them in hotels.

2. Yes they can quit just like the Portland police are quitting and the more that quit the more danger your country becomes. This is a fact.

3. Do you really think 170,000 people tried to get in the USA and everyone was detained. At least 20,000 people per month are not caught and detained. Maybe these are the criminals.

4. Mexico will not take back any kids or families with children so all of these are allowed to stay and are being released into USA. Tucson, Az is setting up a tent camp at their fairgrounds to put thousands of illegals who have already been released. There are numerous homeless camps there also so basically it just increased the homeless.

3% of all the illegals that enter will actually show up for their hearing in Arizona..[/QUOTE]1. You complain about this but you don't provide an alternative. The US has treaty obligations that prevent certain classes of refugees from being immediately expelled. You are presuming there is accommodation available and it is less expensive than the hotels. Perhaps spell out the economics so we can all share your unique understanding. But as you can't read I will again post the official position for you.

The Biden administration is immediately expelling most people stopped trying to cross the border without legal permission. Those expulsions are happening under Title 42, a public health rule put in place by the Trump administration at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. But some places in Mexico are not allowing expelled migrant families to return. Those families are instead processed in the United States, where they face immigration court dates and deportation unless they win their cases.

Under federal policy, children are not supposed to be held in Border Patrol facilities for longer than 72 hours.

Over the weekend, Tae Johnson, acting director for USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, announced the agency had entered an $86.9 million contract with Endeavors, a nonprofit organization, to provide 1,239 beds at hotel rooms and other services to migrant families who are not expelled at the border.

"Families will be provided clothing, meals / snacks, access to medical care, legal counsel, unlimited phone access, and individual rooms for appropriate physical distancing," reads a statement from ICE.

2. Not a fact, just your opinion. I'm sure Portland will deal with their problems.

3. at least? Maybe? You don't know! Maybe the ones that get through are the ones who will always get through because they are smarter and better organised.

4. So they are not being released but put into camps!

You don't know what I support. You just make things up and call anyone who disagrees with you a socialist. You are repeatedly revealed to be clueless about pretty much anything you comment on.

Trump was a failure, McConnell is a failure, the US is failing because Republicans repeatedly enact policies that have been shown to be geared towards meeting the needs of their donors rather than benefiting the nation. You worry about spending $80 m on hotels when the Cares act has been a huge fraud on the American people with $100's of billions being handed out to the wealthy for nothing, $60 b going to farmers to buy their votes because of the failed China trade war but you don't worry about any of that because as long as Republicans are carrying out their massive frauds you are content.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2550298]1. You complain about this but you don't provide an alternative. The US has treaty obligations that prevent certain classes of refugees from being immediately expelled. You are presuming there is accommodation available and it is less expensive than the hotels. Perhaps spell out the economics so we can all share your unique understanding. But as you can't read I will again post the official position for you.

The Biden administration is immediately expelling most people stopped trying to cross the border without legal permission. Those expulsions are happening under Title 42, a public health rule put in place by the Trump administration at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic. But some places in Mexico are not allowing expelled migrant families to return. Those families are instead processed in the United States, where they face immigration court dates and deportation unless they win their cases.

Under federal policy, children are not supposed to be held in Border Patrol facilities for longer than 72 hours.

Over the weekend, Tae Johnson, acting director for USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, announced the agency had entered an $86.9 million contract with Endeavors, a nonprofit organization, to provide 1,239 beds at hotel rooms and other services to migrant families who are not expelled at the border.

"Families will be provided clothing, meals / snacks, access to medical care, legal counsel, unlimited phone access, and individual rooms for appropriate physical distancing," reads a statement from ICE.

2. Not a fact, just your opinion. I'm sure Portland will deal with their problems.

3. at least? Maybe? You don't know! Maybe the ones that get through are the ones who will always get through because they are smarter and better organised.

4. So they are not being released but put into camps!

You don't know what I support. You just make things up and call anyone who disagrees with you a socialist. You are repeatedly revealed to be clueless about pretty much anything you comment on.

Trump was a failure, McConnell is a failure, the US is failing because Republicans repeatedly enact policies that have been shown to be geared towards meeting the needs of their donors rather than benefiting the nation. You worry about spending $80 m on hotels when the Cares act has been a huge fraud on the American people with $100's of billions being handed out to the wealthy for nothing, $60 b going to farmers to buy their votes because of the failed China trade war but you don't worry about any of that because as long as Republicans are carrying out their massive frauds you are content.[/QUOTE]Biggest fraud so far was Biden stimulus. Next biggest fraud will be his infrastructure stimulus which isn't a infrastructure bill but democrats pork for their failing states and cities. Biden here 100 days and already on track to be worst president ever. Even worse than Obama.