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Mess Boy, you are one of the saddest folks I have ever seen on a message Board about Thailand, and I go back to the old days of the Nanaplaza forum.
Obsessed with the Klan I see, again the white hood imagry. Beyond the fact that such references mark you as even more of a bufoon that your posts in general show, I wonder, is their some psychological inadequacy involved, or projection, or trauma? You should seek help and your not going to get it in Pattaya banging Coconut Bar girls.
White Hoodie Wearing Mother Fucker.
It is good to have opinions, but no one really cares about your personal vendetta against me and nearly everyone who posts in general in the Thailand threads. Although I do appreciate that you read every word of my posts and respond to them. Your desire to be a self appointed self help guru for everyone posting here is laudable but really unneeded. Calling me a Mess Boy, Pimp, Abuser trying to say I'm from cities in your country of origin that you find objectionable, mark you as person that has some inner insecurities that have not been addressed. Furthermore, the fact that you do exactly as I do (pay prostitutes for sex) shows you to be an individual who is deeply conflicted about his own personal activities.
[B]I wonder if there is some deep psychological problems, projection or trauma?[/B]
You should seek help and you are not going to get it sitting in front of your computer screen, banging on your keyboard in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2913305]This is where is all started. You being concerned about another mans dick and the language we use up in here. Did the above post provide you with release?
Before you have anything to say about a post I make here, take a moment and make a note of where you are posting:
[B]Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand[/B]
I'm in Pattaya right now. Boots on the ground. Here is your opportunity for you to come out from behind the safety of your computer screen and stop banging on your keyboard. You seem like a misguided but reasonable person. Let's have a man to man conversation IRL. If you are in Bankgok, I know how to get there too.
Ball is now in your court. You for real or just another keyboard warrior.
Now if you prefer to stay in your comfort zone, could you at least do us all a favor and post up some useful intelligence on having sex with girls? Does not need to titillating. Just accurate.[/QUOTE]Nice to see the mods have come out from wherever they were hiding, they deleted my response.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2914481]Nice to see the mods have come out from wherever they were hiding, they deleted my response.[/QUOTE]Don't start no stuff; there won't be no stuff. LOL!
[QUOTE=PgReal;2914481]Nice to see the mods have come out from wherever they were hiding, they deleted my response.[/QUOTE]It's not hiding it's time zones. I'm in Cambodia, you're in, the mods are in New York? There's another mod in Tokyo? Who knows, but if I post at 6:00 in the morning Cambodian time, mods might not even see it until 8 hours later when he or she or it wakes up.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2914054]White Hoodie Wearing Mother Fucker.
It is good to have opinions, but no one really cares about your personal vendetta against me and nearly everyone who posts in general in the Thailand threads. Although I do appreciate that you read every word of my posts and respond to them. Your desire to be a self appointed self help guru for everyone posting here is laudable but really unneeded. Calling me a Mess Boy, Pimp, Abuser trying to say I'm from cities in your country of origin that you find objectionable, mark you as person that has some inner insecurities that have not been addressed. Furthermore, the fact that you do exactly as I do (pay prostitutes for sex) shows you to be an individual who is deeply conflicted about his own personal activities..[/QUOTE]I have no Vendetta against you little fella I just know who and what you are.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2914594]I have no Vendetta against you little fella I just know who and what you are.[/QUOTE]Actually, you just think you know who and what I am Mr. Keyboard warrior. [B]That is ok with me.[/B] Because I am not worried about what you think.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2913861]Mess Boy, you are one of the saddest folks I have ever seen on a message Board about Thailand, and I go back to the old days of the Nanaplaza forum.
Obsessed with the Klan I see, again the white hood imagry. Beyond the fact that such references mark you as even more of a bufoon that your posts in general show, I wonder, is their some psychological inadequacy involved, or projection, or trauma? You should seek help and your not going to get it in Pattaya banging Coconut Bar girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2913835]Yep. Sounds like the old Caucasian westerners are sour that the ladies are choosing Japanese and Korean men over them.
Can you blame young females for not wanting to roll with bald, elderly Caucasian dudes who dress like trash and treat the girls like trash? [b]I mean just look at the typical farang in the Buakho area[/b]. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not a pretty sigh. It is a shame there is not a "I'm so disgusted surcharge" they could place on them. Maybe that would force them to meet the most basic levels of human appearance standards. Guys up in here and in other threads can say what they want about the prostitutes in Pattaya, but they are putting their best foot forward as they say. They make the best of what they can with what they have. Even the princesses standing under the palm trees on Beach Road.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2913835]Times they are a changin.[/QUOTE]Yes they are. It runs deeper than that. You got (you know who) on YouTube saying how Thailand is declined and they are moving out cause they don't like the type of people that visit now. Well it sounds to me like someone has dropped down a few rungs of the overall desirability scale and they getting sour about it.
Never mind that the Japanese and Korean men are younger. Dress nicer. Are in better shape. Treat them better. And they pay more! Do you think any one of those things might factor in? Of course they do. Factor them all in and it is like the say in basketball; "In your face"!
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2914642]I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019.[/QUOTE]I first arrived in Thailand in 2023.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2914642]And I envy those who hobbied long time ago.[/QUOTE]Why is that? I know I don't. I live in the present. How can you envy the memory of an experience you never had? Personally I don't get it. Now I can think back to pleasurable experiences I had in the past. But that all they are: pleasant memories that get idealized over time. But they don't get in the way of my current fun. I live in the present.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2914642]Why do you think overall talent has declined?[/QUOTE]Who says it has and how can your verify that? When I was a kid I paid. 05 USD for 4 cookies. Now that the price of cookies went up it does not mean that the quality of the cookies went down. In fact, the cookies I buy today tastes as good as the cookies I used to buy for. 05 USD. Same same for pussy, mouth and ass. Still feels just as good as when it was less expense. [B]Pussy is Pussy[/B].
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2914642]Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?[/QUOTE]Being a prostitute is a choice. Unless someone is trafficked and that is illegal. I do not condone that. These transactions should be made between consenting adults. But we are all prostitutes. Unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, got your inheritance from daddy and momi and now travel the world and have private bankers in every country. We are selling our time, using our bodies and minds to make money. No one is any better up in here than the girls they pay to lay down with.
It is low season in Pattaya again. My Thai Friendly in box is blowing up. The prostitutes are soliciting business from me. I am low balling them and they are accepting.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2914790]Actually, you just think you know who and what I am Mr. Keyboard warrior. [B]That is ok with me.[/B] Because I am not worried about what you think.[/QUOTE]Well clearly you are little fella, you keep trying to talk with me.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2914819]Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.
When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.[/QUOTE]Actually not true. Today's talent is definitely not as Good. Looks wise.
Service wise we need the SUB to chime in.
This is the very first post you made in response to mine in the: [B]Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand[/B].
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866918]I think you should chill out. This is a forum to exchange information, not to have little wars over ego needs.[/QUOTE]Let the record show that it was you, Mr. KBW (Key Bored Warrior) that first responded to me and continue to respond to me. What is most interesting about your initial post is you were wrong right from the beginning and others told you so. [B]No one is forcing you to read and respond to nearly every post[/B] I make here and in other places in the Thailand country threads.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2867152]This is so true guys. I learned long ago that it takes way too much energy to argue on internet forums. Just have thick skin and move on if you read something you don't like. I read tons of stuff on here I just ignore cause I don't care enough to respond.
Now I personally haven't come under Sub 'blast' yet but if he does blast me I'll just brush it off. I actually enjoy some of his posts but again I'm not on the receiving end of them.[/QUOTE]Anyone who understands the English language sees that we are clearly not talking with each other but instead are responding (posting) based on what the other has said. Hardly constitutes a conversation. More like tennis in written form where the issues and insults of the day are hit back across the net with the other retuning it. LOL!
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2914838]Well clearly you are little fella, you keep trying to talk with me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2914819]Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.
When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.[/QUOTE]You are keeping it 100.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914400]I think the main point is not the cost. Everyone understands inflation. McDonalds meal could be had for $1. 99. Now its like 10 bucks. But WHAT they are serving is more or less the same thing. Consistent burgers and service. You know what you are paying for.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ with you. Others do also. Check out this post:
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2914535]There has not been any inflation in Thailand that justyfies price increases of 50-100%. And the prices asked in the tourist sector is not always the prices asked from the own population. You really think thai men are paying 35 year olds 1500 for a 30 minute fuck?[/QUOTE]You are making a point that is valid throughout the entire world. In every country there is a tourist economy and a local economy. You have to be a very special person to get a local price as a tourist. Half the time it requires no more than knowing how much the locals are paying and refusing to pay more. During low season that is very easy in Pattaya. During high season not so much. Simple supply and demand, the most basic market dynamics at work (Econ 101) or just google it.
In the places where I have established myself as a local I am not paying what tourists pay either. So, if you are doing the same as I do, then why do you care what the tourists are paying? I know I don't.
[B]Pro Tip[/B]: Stay focused on the deal and not the girl; be willing to say no; you are more likely to hit the price point that you seek.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2914575]I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order. (edited) Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but I bet the girls back then were charging premium market prices relative to what was standard at the time. In other words, those agogo girls were not going for the same prices street girls were going for. Am I right?
If I am right that means that quality can still be found at a premium price point. Or is everyone saying the the quality of even the top tier girls have gone down now.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914400] The issue is that the product, Thai pussy, is no longer the same. Yes it is is still available but the body its attached to is now tatted up, fake boobs, fake nose and eyes and a mercenary attitude.[/QUOTE]I disagree with you. But then I do not have the reference point that you do. On the other hand, who the fuck cares. Sex is in the brain. I only need a girl to cooperate with me enough to give me reasonable access to her mouth, pussy and ass. I live in the present.
The product is exactly the same along with the bodies they are attached to. The problem is (and I am not saying this applies to you) is that many individuals complaining about the "Glory Days" are also unwilling to pay the premium prices that are required to pull the talent they are interested in.
When a restaurant changes it's menu I cannot order off the old one. My only option is if I have a special relationship with the restaurant is to ask the chef to prepare something special. If prices go up I must simply pay the new prices. Or I can find another restaurant to eat at.
As I roam throughout Pattaya, I see my asian brothers with girls that look like they could be models in the commercials I see on Thai TV. That's right, slim bodies, void of tattoos, fair complexions, hair did, nails straight and dressed like they just got finished with a "pretty woman" shopping spree. Oh yes, my fellow brothers, you can have what ever you like if you are willing to pay for it. Does not appear that my asian brothers let themselves be restricted by the amount of worthless fiat currency they are willing to pay their prostitutes.
Most of the individuals complaining are not willing to pay for what they want. I see it all the time. Complaints about certain visitors driving up the price. Stay home and make some damn money. That way you can spend it when you get wherever you are going.
I recently told a friend, do not think you are going to come here and get top tier girls (whatever the fuck that means) for 1000 - 1500 THB. But if you want to ejaculate, they will provide you with service.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914400] Yes I know the glory days are not coming back.[/QUOTE]Good to see that you accept the reality of that situation. But I can argue that our best days lie ahead.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914400] But for better or worse people have reference point in their mind that sets expectations whether we like it or not.[/QUOTE]They also have the ability to choose how to relate to that reference point. Complain about the Glory Days having passed them by or doing something about in real time to improve their results.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914400]Good for you that you can only remember as far back as your last ejaculation. Many of us are not blessed with such selective and ultra short term memory.[/QUOTE]Damn straight. I feel sorry for people that do not have enough control over their own minds in order to live in the present. They look outward in order to place blame instead of looking inward.
If you want a girlfriend then you do what you need to get one. If you want "top tier" prostitutes, then you pay what you need to pay to get them. I keep it real. Prostitutes providing a service. I do not need the GFE fantasy. I have real girlfriends for that. I goto prostitutes for "he" Ho Experience. You are not going find me walking hand in hand with a prostitute. Taking them to dinner or shopping. Nor going on trips in or outside of Thailand. Or spending the night with them for that matter!
If I was dissatisfied with Pattaya (and I am not ATM) there is the entire country of Thailand to explore. If I found Thailand was not working for me anymore there is: Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan all within a short flight. Laos, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan all have my interest. Not because I have a problem with Pattaya but because I am interested in fucking the prostitutes that are available there.
You see I think everyone should go where they are treated best. If your eyes and your dick are not being treated well here in Pattaya, then ask yourself why are you here? Why do you visit?
When I got tired of the culture in LATAM countries I decided to take a break. Flew half-way around the world. What did I find? Pussy is Pussy! Latinas have better hardware overall. But Thai girls have much better software. This is no perfect pussy to be found, past, present or future. Although I am looking forward to going to a the first brothel staffed with sex robots.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2914813]I first arrived in Thailand in 2023.[/QUOTE]That explains a lot. In about 10 years from now you will be talking about 2023 as the good old days.
In a slow period who gets affected the most. The 1 k crowd. Makes sense the Ugly Muglie will be aggressive, they are the 1st to get hit.
The top tiers, will always be able to make money.
Don't you all wish you were the Commando now. Girls falling all over you, I bet even at discount from 1 k. Maybe 3 fiddy.
LOL. Hahaha.