[QUOTE=Riina;2918468]Normal people know this, but the troll farm really likes making whoppers here.[/QUOTE]You are a member of the troll farm, evidenced by spelling Kharkiv incorrectly in the Ukrainian forums.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2918468]Normal people know this, but the troll farm really likes making whoppers here.[/QUOTE]You are a member of the troll farm, evidenced by spelling Kharkiv incorrectly in the Ukrainian forums.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2918559]Who told me what? Kyiv in 3 days was Russia's propaganda drivel. It's your own colleagues who ran with it, not me. Soloviev, Skabeyeva, Simonyan among others. They all gave Kyiv from 1 to 3 days. Your fuhrer was actually more conservative; his prognosis was 2 weeks. Our "pathetic mainstream western media" simply quoted your own people. Talk to them if you have a problem.[/QUOTE]LOL, he's a historian quoting western media, but he reckons the "taking Kyiv in 3 days" is a western story. So unravels the latest Russian shill to infest the Ukrainian forums. Why they never post in the Russia forums, I will not understand.
Remember 99 Red Balloons? Time of the fall of the Berlin Wall is far behind us. Still our dear Korean friends play games. Some would even suggest this is the wonder weapon they are going to send west to get rid of the 'expired President' (good pun) in Kiev. Indeed, what would you do with the expired tuna can? You can't bring it to the community food bank or animal shelter. It's just thrown into the garbage.
[URL]https://youtu.be/lwz3KhjgXLE?si=eW7xdzISk2PG95-2[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2918559]Yes it is. Compared to a series of knockouts the Ukrainians delivered around Kyiv, Kharkov and Kherson in 2022, it's practically nothing.[/QUOTE]You obviously do not know what a knock out is LOL. Nor do you understand tactical withdrawals because you do not have a military background.
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But that's even beside the point. You said the Ukrainians only liberated 1 village while they liberated more than a dozen. [B]That was a direct lie[/B]. You can't wiggle your way out of it.
He never tried to capture Kyiv? Now that's hysterical!
[B]Russias failure to take down Kyiv was a defeat for the ages[/B]
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-battle-for-kyiv-dc559574ce9f6683668fa221af2d5340
It's a bit early to rewrite history. You'll have to wait for at least a few decades.[/QUOTE]Yes, he didn't. He didn't have enough troops to take Kiev. The SMO was started with a very small number of troops. The goals initially I have already highlighted earlier. It was to coerce Ukraine to sue for peace and accept neutrality. This worked. See Istanbul March 2022. Elesnky is on record saying that Ukraine is ready to accept neutrality. Would you like me to link you to that news? Then Boris Johnson sabotaged it and that is when NATO got involved.
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Who told me what? Kyiv in 3 days was Russia's propaganda drivel. It's your own colleagues who ran with it, not me. Soloviev, Skabeyeva, Simonyan among others. They all gave Kyiv from 1 to 3 days. Your fuhrer was actually more conservative; his prognosis was 2 weeks. Our "pathetic mainstream western media" simply quoted your own people. Talk to them if you have a problem.[/QUOTE]Yes, the pathetic western MSM you jerk off to came up with the Kiev in 3 days non sense. You can keep running with it. Just like:
Ukraine is winning.
The Russians are running out of ammo.
The Russians are weak and stupid.
The Russians are running out of missiles.
The Russians are running out of drones.
The Arbrams, leopards, storm shadows etc are going to be a game changer.
Ukraine will get Crimea back in summer of 2023 after the counter offensive.
OH did I mention that UKRAINE IS WINNING? LOL.
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That's right, I don't have military background. But neither do your generals, it seems.
You forgot a "goodwill gesture", LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, and I do have a military back ground so I will be here to school on military matters so pay close attention.
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Yes Sire. Cream and sugar?[/QUOTE]Yeah, weaseled your way out of that one. The true mark of a coward. Walk on home, boy.
[QUOTE=VinDici;2918596]You are a member of the troll farm, evidenced by spelling Kharkiv incorrectly in the Ukrainian forums.[/QUOTE]Kharkov, like Odessa, is historically a Russian city. Technically, both spellings are correct.
[QUOTE=Riina;2918468]Normal people know this, but the troll farm really likes making whoppers here.[/QUOTE]Yes, but I just thought I'd make it clear before some of the folks here start another narrative saying that the Russians didn't succeed in capturing Kharkov when they do not have any intention of doing so. Vladimir Putin stated a few months back about the buffer zone inside Kharkov.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2918880]Kharkov, like Odessa, is historically a Russian city. Technically, both spellings are correct.[/QUOTE]Neither Odessa, nor Kharkiv are Russian cities now. So the new spelling is correct. No one is calling Istanbul Constantinople due to historical context.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2918880]Kharkov, like Odessa, is historically a Russian city. [/QUOTE]Interesting. Because Kharkiv was for a couple of years the capital of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic?
Odessa, at least was founded by Catherine, the Great. But then, may be historically it is German?
[QUOTE=VinDici;2918767]LOL, he's a historian quoting western media, but he reckons the "taking Kyiv in 3 days" is a western story. So unravels the latest Russian shill to infest the Ukrainian forums. Why they never post in the Russia forums, I will not understand.[/QUOTE]To me, it's astonishing that they would waste resources on a mongering forum at all. Yet, this is how insane the Russian propaganda machine is. They want to be under every boulder, rock and pebble.
[B]Undermining Ukraine: How Russia widened its global information war in 2023[/B]
[URL]https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/undermining-ukraine-how-russia-widened-its-global-information-war-in-2023[/URL]
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2918879]The true mark of a coward. Walk on home, boy.[/QUOTE]I understand you're upset. But look, I didn't choose your job for you. Get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.
When you just began your tenure, you managed to refrain from personal attacks. You came in strong with a rich assortment of lies, half-truths, and demagoguery techniques expecting that these decadent westerners would have no idea what hit them.
So when your lies get unraveled, and you're left with no arguments to counter the cold, hard facts, you become angry and resort to the only tools available to any shill in the world -- deflection and personal attacks. That's plain boring.
You've degenerated in just a matter of days. Sad!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2919007]I understand you're upset. But look, I didn't choose your job for you. Get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.
When you just began your tenure, you managed to refrain from personal attacks. You came in strong with a rich assortment of lies, half-truths, and demagoguery techniques expecting that these decadent westerners would have no idea what hit them.
So when your lies get unraveled, and you're left with no arguments to counter the cold, hard facts, you become angry and resort to the only tools available to any shill in the world -- deflection and personal attacks. That's plain boring.
You've degenerated in just a matter of days. Sad![/QUOTE]Selective quoting. I understand. You have no rebuttal. Like I said, walk on home boy.
P.S. Ukraine is winning.
[QUOTE=VinDici;2918935]Neither Odessa, nor Kharkiv are Russian cities now. So the new spelling is correct. No one is calling Istanbul Constantinople due to historical context.[/QUOTE]I do think that Putin will end up capturing and annexing both Kharkiv and Odessa, and everything east of the Dniper. After that, I really don't know what he has in mind to be honest. He may very well end up taking 4 more Oblasts in addition to the 4 he partially controls + Crimea. The longer this tragic needless war continues, the more territory Ukraine will lose.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2919138]I..The longer this tragic needless war continues, the more territory Ukraine will lose.[/QUOTE]Xpartan just remarked on how ubiquitous Russian disinformation is, even here on a sex website. To be fair, Russian disinformation is not just everywhere, it has been incredibly effective -- maximum results with very little effort. Truly, Russia punches far above its weight. It has been amazing how a backwards country with an economy smaller than Italy's has been able to achieve strategic outcomes only through propaganda. How is this campaign funded? How much is this poster paid to do his work on this forum?
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2919185]Xpartan just remarked on how ubiquitous Russian disinformation is, even here on a sex website. To be fair, Russian disinformation is not just everywhere, it has been incredibly effective -- maximum results with very little effort. Truly, Russia punches far above its weight. It has been amazing how a backwards country with an economy smaller than Italy's has been able to achieve strategic outcomes only through propaganda. How is this campaign funded? How much is this poster paid to do his work on this forum?[/QUOTE]You can only post rubbish and can't dispute facts because you cannot debate. Ukraine is losing territory daily.
How much territory has Ukraine lost in 2024?
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2919218]How much territory has Ukraine lost in 2024?[/QUOTE]This is a war of attrition. Ukraine is trading small villages and towns for massive Russian losses. This is the 243 day of the Russian offensive, in this time they have almost 2900 armored vehicles + artillery destroyed plus 1100 more abandoned. Do you think that's sustainable?