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[QUOTE=Boriman;1890940]I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I've been with fellow mongers and they were determined to leave a tip despite the fact that we paid for Itibis and Ley. When I refuse to contribute to the 'propina' I am looked on as the bad guy. I will leave a tip if the service is quite outstanding or if I am interested in the chica (and even with this it is rare.). Excellent point, Mr Enternational.[/QUOTE]Maybe they look you as the bad guy for two reasons: they expect that extra cash from foreign clients and because a lot of times they never receive the 10% they are entitled by law. I have read a few times in local newspapers that it is a common practice from patrons to keep the ley tip for themselves.
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Tips
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1891777]Maybe they look you as the bad guy for two reasons: they expect that extra cash from foreign clients and because a lot of times they never receive the 10% they are entitled by law. I have read a few times in local newspapers that it is a common practice from patrons to keep the ley tip for themselves.[/QUOTE]Good point. That said, let us put the pieces together. 18% for Itibis. 10% for Ley. Now we add a tip. This would all add up to a third of the bill! That is ludicrous.
Do this over a span of two weeks and it all adds up. For that, don't leave a tip. If the business is pocketing the tips that is between the employer and employee and the customer has nothing to do with it. Also, we are charged 'ley' then leave a tip. In other words, we are paying the tip twice! (No matter who pockets the money!) The tourist definitely should not pay for people's corruption.
I have been to many restaurants in the DR that have miscalculated the bill. It has always been to their advantage. I always corrected them on this. I have been to other restaurants where they did not give me the proper change back (either because they did not have the proper change to give back or they wanted to pocket the money). I rarely leave tips, for these and other reasons.
This reminds me of the time I stayed at Terra Linda. We needed to have clothes washed so Larry, who could only speak English, went to the laundry place and they charged him DOP 300. I went afterwards and after talking to them in Spanish they charged me DOP 200. I later learned that the locals were only charged DOP 100. Now, from experience, I have found cheaper alternatives. This is just one example of how we are obviously being overcharged.
That said, if someone walks into a restaurant that charges Itibis and Ley believe me when I tell you that we are definitely paying too much and the workers will do just fine without our tips. I love eating at Baileys but considering the ridiculous prices they charge (compared to the standard of living on the island) they are making out like bandits. This is also true of Morua Mai and Terra Linda. I would say, though, that all these places have great food and I would highly recommend them but they are simply overpriced. Again, there should be no reason why food should cost so much in a developing nation like the DR.
We do not know which restaurants pocket the 'Ley' and which do but, again, it is not the responsibility of the customer to know that. Hey, if I like the service that much or if the chica interests me, fine, but otherwise I usually skip the tip.
As for expecting cash from foreign clients I find this common all over the island. Many times I cannot even ask for directions in Santo Domingo without some guy asking for a tip. This also happens at the airport, while looking for a cat house, while asking for extra towels at a hotel; in fact it's a daily fact of life in the DR. It is one of the regrettable hassles of visiting the island.
I would rather be the bad guy than the foolish guy. In the DR one has to be wise with their money. Just my take and in all due respect to Boricuaonline and other members on this board.
Thanks Boricuaonline for your input.
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Thursday night
I really love Thursday nights at Classico. Tonight was no different. A lot of prom dates. I mean these chicas are absolutely beautiful. A lot of guys but enough girls to go around. I'm thinking to myself damn this is only Thursday night. I fell in the club about 1:45. Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday. She and I are cool. We never session because she refused to take an HIV test for me. I'm not saying she's positive she just exercise my right not to take it. I've seen her in sosua plenty of times but I've never proposition her again. She's one the few chica whom allow to come and dance on me. I had her on my "we're just cool list". She asked for a drink and I told her yes get me a water while you're at it. She and her friend are both dancing by me as the crowd go by. In comes my homie Dre. He and another homie decided on Casa Angela. I had my fire stick with me I needed hotel with updated equipment to enjoy my firestick. It was back to Europa for me. Anyway I'm wondering is his fate decided that me and my birthday girl we're going to have a session. She was looking good. I treated her like a hotel chica for the last 2 years. It would really surprise her if I came in her. Meanwhile Dre has came back over to me and seeing the group dancing by on me. He took one look at her body and grabbed her and pulled her to him. He really showed he was interested and she bit. I watch them to the phone game. She showed him a picture of her in lingerie. I could tell they were talking about price. I can tell the way she dropped her shoulders when he tried to counter. She was stuck on 3500 pesos for 1 hour. She's a Sosua vet. The negotiations stopped. 2 minutes later he said he was going to the room. He looked at her and said come on. He bit on the price! As he was walking away he ask me to tell him if the pussy was good. I looked at him and laugh now you asking me. Let me tell you now that you're asking me I've never been with her. And after you get with her I never will be with her. That's my girl why'all go enjoy yourselves. They left I wonder how thiat turned out.
Meanwhile I'm thinking about taking an L for tonight. A lot of nice chica but I am very selective. Look around make sure it wasn't any chocolate treats that could make me change my mind. I couldn't see any of my regular. I only had two thousand 200 hundred pesos. I figured I would just double up tomorrow and take it easy for tonight. I had something good waiting for me in the room. So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone. A group of girls from Santiago we're giving me compliments on my outfit. They had a young girl with her. First time here type of thing. They were suggesting that she leave with me and we're trying to negotiate a good price for her. I took a nice look at her Young Blanca cute. She wasn't dressed like she was going to Classico. More like or walk to the mall. Blue jean overalls and sneakers. Of course she couldn't speak any English. I seen her out the corner of my eye her pointing her friends out to me. I guess she was saying I want to be with that one. Her friends seemed eager and comfortable giving her to me. They were all from Santiago. The young lady that did the most talking was her older cousin. I told her her cousin was in good hands and offered her my phone number. They were all going to the casino. She and I agreed on a price 1500 and if she's good 2000 pesos. We get to Europa and she gives her ID to the receptionist. The reception is at the questions she did not answer correctly. This girl has no cellular. She's obviously over 21 but she doesn't have identification. I called her cousin telling her cousin that I cannot go to jail. Her cousin came explaining her cousin is an illegal. She's 23 years old. Showing me pictures of them on Facebook and what not. Of course I know the girl is over 21 however rules are rules. So I took her to another designated area I keep in reserve. And on a scale of 1 to 10 she was most definitely and 8 1/2. She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. I love watching when I first enter a woman in the first five minutes she's creaming all over my condom. Lucky me. Did not complain did not rush and she wanted to kiss. Must be something in the air.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1891940]I really love Thursday nights at Classico. Tonight was no different. A lot of prom dates. I mean these chicas are absolutely beautiful. A lot of guys but enough girls to go around. I'm thinking to myself damn this is only Thursday night. I fell in the club about 1:45. Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday. She and I are cool. We never session because she refused to take an HIV test for me. I'm not saying she's positive she just exercise my right not to take it. I've seen her in sosua plenty of times but I've never proposition her again. She's one the few chica whom allow to come and dance on me. I had her on my "we're just cool list". She asked for a drink and I told her yes get me a water while you're at it. She and her friend are both dancing by me as the crowd go by. In comes my homie Dre. He and another homie decided on Casa Angela. I had my fire stick with me I needed hotel with updated equipment to enjoy my firestick. It was back to Europa for me. Anyway I'm wondering is his fate decided that me and my birthday girl we're going to have a session. She was looking good. I treated her like a hotel chica for the last 2 years. It would really surprise her if I came in her. Meanwhile Dre has came back over to me and seeing the group dancing by on me. He took one look at her body and grabbed her and pulled her to him. He really showed he was interested and she bit. I watch them to the phone game. She showed him a picture of her in lingerie. I could tell they were talking about price. I can tell the way she dropped her shoulders when he tried to counter. She was stuck on 3500 pesos for 1 hour. She's a Sosua vet. The negotiations stopped. 2 minutes later he said he was going to the room. He looked at her and said come on. He bit on the price! As he was walking away he ask me to tell him if the pussy was good. I looked at him and laugh now you asking me. Let me tell you now that you're asking me I've never been with her. And after you get with her I never will be with her. That's my girl why'all go enjoy yourselves. They left I wonder how thiat turned out.
Meanwhile I'm thinking about taking an L for tonight. A lot of nice chica but I am very selective. Look around make sure it wasn't any chocolate treats that could make me change my mind. I couldn't see any of my regular. I only had two thousand 200 hundred pesos. I figured I would just double up tomorrow and take it easy for tonight. I had something good waiting for me in the room. So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone. A group of girls from Santiago we're giving me compliments on my outfit. They had a young girl with her. First time here type of thing. They were suggesting that she leave with me and we're trying to negotiate a good price for her. I took a nice look at her Young Blanca cute. She wasn't dressed like she was going to Classico. More like or walk to the mall. Blue jean overalls and sneakers. Of course she couldn't speak any English. I seen her out the corner of my eye her pointing her friends out to me. I guess she was saying I want to be with that one. Her friends seemed eager and comfortable giving her to me. They were all from Santiago. The young lady that did the most talking was her older cousin. I told her her cousin was in good hands and offered her my phone number. They were all going to the casino. She and I agreed on a price 1500 and if she's good 2000 pesos. We get to Europa and she gives her ID to the receptionist. The reception is at the questions she did not answer correctly. This girl has no cellular. She's obviously over 21 but she doesn't have identification. I called her cousin telling her cousin that I cannot go to jail. Her cousin came explaining her cousin is an illegal. She's 23 years old. Showing me pictures of them on Facebook and what not. Of course I know the girl is over 21 however rules are rules. So I took her to another designated area I keep in reserve. And on a scale of 1 to 10 she was most definitely and 8 1/2. She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. I love watching when I first enter a woman in the first five minutes she's creaming all over my condom. Lucky me. Did not complain did not rush and she wanted to kiss. Must be something in the air.[/QUOTE]That's just Sosua at it's best.
Always new stuff coming in.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1891940]She gave me deep swallow. BJ. She grabbed my hips and pulled my body into her mouth. Damn I really forgot chicas can do that. [/QUOTE]Nice report!
I've been to Sosua many times and I had a chica do that to me for the first time on my last trip.
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Cmo? Is that you?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1891940]Saw the girl I met about 3 years ago on my birthday...So I'm sitting outside of Classico in an all white linen suit still high from an earlier smoke session, in my zone.[/QUOTE]GrownMan a*k*a Cmo Cakes?
[b]Feliz Cumpleanos Movie Trailer- Starring at CMOCAKES[/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkL_RU2aSek[/URL]
(1:26)
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1892155]GrownMan a*k*a Cmo Cakes?
[b]Feliz Cumpleanos Movie Trailer- Starring at CMOCAKES[/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkL_RU2aSek[/URL]
(1:26)[/QUOTE]Thank you for the birthday shout out. That is my Road dogs and I ringtone.
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Classico
Tonight was a pretty good show of chicas. There are no short supplies here in the Sue. I didn't get in there until about 2:15. The place is still packed. Didn't see nothing that really grabbed my attention. I'm feeling like Mr GoGo taking an L tonight. Guess I'll double up tomorrow. I really don't like after 1 crowd so it's back to Europa. I thought I was going to settle with one chica but she wouldn't get off 2500. I'm not in a rush to give up my money without any incentives. She even was Haitian. My Dominican last night would have gotten a rare back to back repeat had I seen her.
I saw the UK fellows in the club. They had to leave early because one of them got caught walking smoking marijuana. Man he was really slipping. I told him it's best to go and bride the officer now before things get ugly.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1892336]Tonight was a pretty good show of chicas. There are no short supplies here in the Sue. I didn't get in there until about 2:15. The place is still packed. Didn't see nothing that really grabbed my attention. I'm feeling like Mr GoGo taking an L tonight. Guess I'll double up tomorrow. I really don't like after 1 crowd so it's back to Europa. I thought I was going to settle with one chica but she wouldn't get off 2500. I'm not in a rush to give up my money without any incentives. She even was Haitian. My Dominican last night would have gotten a rare back to back repeat had I seen her.
I saw the UK fellows in the club. They had to leave early because one of them got caught walking smoking marijuana. Man he was really slipping. I told him it's best to go and bride the officer now before things get ugly.[/QUOTE]Good report dude. Once you have been somewhere more than 5 times you tend to look for that hidden gem because the regulars don't phase you. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
Grownman, time to do some homework; see if you can find out from the black euro group the specifics of their trip. Is there a website they use? How much they paid? Was it their first time? The reason for inquiring is to find out if this is the new trend. That many dudes hitting one spot can be a problem in the future. Plus it sounds like they have been fucking up already so it might be good for a few laughs.
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[QUOTE=MrGogo;1892423]Good report dude. Once you have been somewhere more than 5 times you tend to look for that hidden gem because the regulars don't phase you. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
Grownman, time to do some homework; see if you can find out from the black euro group the specifics of their trip. Is there a website they use? How much they paid? Was it their first time? The reason for inquiring is to find out if this is the new trend. That many dudes hitting one spot can be a problem in the future. Plus it sounds like they have been fucking up already so it might be good for a few laughs.[/QUOTE]I will try to get that information from them. I can't believe I haven't seen any of my regular. I've been coming to sosua for 3 years. I mean I've seen some girls out session with. A lot of chicas come and give me hugs but I can't remember the sessions. It must not be anything to shake a stick at because I only remember the real good ones and the real bad ones. I really have a lot of saved numbers but a lot talking to chicas while I am in the US bores me. Even DC cupid bores me. A lot of those conversations lead to request for money . I will be definitely going to Caberetta tonight. I need change up. This is why I missing traveling with a Vet. Vets on more adventurous to try new areas. Where the hell is Parkinson when I need him.
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[QUOTE=MrGogo;1892423]Good report dude. At that late hour you need to check out the bar girls who are getting off work. Respectfully speaking bro, but why fall into Classicos so late? You only get the leftovers.
.[/QUOTE]Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent.
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Be Careful
Reinventing the wheel is a dangerous thing sometimes. Sosua provides access to young pretty girls. These girls range from hard core pros to sweet fresh off the bus. I go there 3 times a year and always have a great time. I am still learning how to be less anxious. Patience is the key getting the best of Sosua. Every time I go off the rails I regret it. Rile one pick the girls you want. Just because a girl grabs your dick does not mean she knows what to do with it. Most of us lose the ability to think when a women has your dick in her hand.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1892539]Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent.[/QUOTE]
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Drinks for chicas
[QUOTE] Mr. G try to stay say from Bartenders. They are hotel chicas to me. I go to the club's late because I am not a drinker and most chicas want drinks. Their are a lot of Ballers buying chicas drinks all night. And. Once they buy that wine. I just creep up from behind. I got lucky last night. The problem their aren't a lot of sleepers. I miss hitting the corners of Andres. Seeing non pro talent. [/QUOTE]I don't drink either. I used to just walk into bars or the disco and take chicas out without buying drinks for myself or the chicas. There is no need to buy drinks for them. The reason the chicas are in the bars is because they want to meet men for PFP. If they are there to drink, they are probably best avoided anyway. Basic chica selection 101.
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[QUOTE=Frannie;1892565]I don't drink either. I used to just walk into bars or the disco and take chicas out without buying drinks for myself or the chicas. There is no need to buy drinks for them. The reason the chicas are in the bars is because they want to meet men for PFP. If they are there to drink, they are probably best avoided anyway. Basic chica selection 101.[/QUOTE]I didn't even know this was a thing!
I haven't been back to Sosua since 2012 but everytime I even give it a thought I read something like this that quickly puts it out of my mind. I drink, but I have never bought a drink for a chica. When I am on the strip I am there looking for something to take back to the room. The conversation should take no more than 5 minutes when you have made up your mind about the one you want. No sticking around to dance with her or buy her drinks. I've got plenty of booze and music back in the room.
I blame this shit on the younger guys. These ninjas come here and think they are on a real date like they are back home where they feel they have to buy a woman a drink in order to talk to her. The very same shit they are running from to begin with, lmao!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1892571]I didn't even know this was a thing!
I haven't been back to Sosua since 2012 but everytime I even give it a thought I read something like this that quickly puts it out of my mind. I drink, but I have never bought a drink for a chica. When I am on the strip I am there looking for something to take back to the room. The conversation should take no more than 5 minutes when you have made up your mind about the one you want. No sticking around to dance with her or buy her drinks. I've got plenty of booze and music back in the room.
I blame this shit on the younger guys. These ninjas come here and think they are on a real date like they are back home where they feel they have to buy a woman a drink in order to talk to her. The very same shit they are running from to begin with, lmao![/QUOTE]Listen up newbies. No matter how much money you spend on buying chicas drinks, it has nothing to do with negotiations later. Unless you are like Mr. G. Mr. G wants everyone as drunk as he is as long as the party strong. He doesn't even need a big crowd. 3 decent chica and some music, he will drink and dance all night. With his two left feet. I seen guys pay over $100 on drinks along per night. Then back in the room the chica wants to charge him another hundred. So much for the love it's all about business. A lot of guys find themselves too drunk too lazy or too late to find another chica.