Manila

[QUOTE=Robbaf]I always honor their request, but I think you misunderstood what I posted. I would never dishonor a girl. I just asked if anyone had heard that. I have been living here for 6 months and I have been to the Cafe 50 times and I have never been asked that before, but this time, 3 of 4 asked me. That just seemed strange to me so that is why I asked the question.

If you read my past post (Guam) some dumbass took my TR of a bar that I got FS in, to the bar and showed the girl. She freaked out.

Stay Safe
Robb[/QUOTE]
I apologize for skipping over that question. Yes, I did hear it at least once last summer when I was there for 2 months. I also got asked once in Thailand so this isn't limited to the Phils. Now you and I are a miniscule sample of the typical camera wielding mongers out there, but there have to be others who have been asked this. I didn't think about it at the time because I like my discretion as much or more than hers so I don't post my pictures anyway. On the other hand, to each his own as long as the girls' requests are honored should they mention it.

[QUOTE=Columpuss]Are you shocked because she makes too much or too little out of the drink?[/QUOTE]
I was shocked because they do not work for the bar. They are a customer just like I am. Next thing you know, we will be paying the bar for FL barfine?? I am not complaining or trying to start a fight, just posting what I found.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf]I was shocked because they do not work for the bar. They are a customer just like I am. Next thing you know, we will be paying the bar for FL barfine?? I am not complaining or trying to start a fight, just posting what I found.

Robb[/QUOTE]

Damn right I'd walk out also!

If she is receiving commissions form Amazonia then she is NOT a freelancer at all but is in fact, at best, a 'causal' employee or more likely a stealth GRO.

I don't think I will partonise any place that indulges in such deceptive conduct.

I just got off yahoo after talking with one of several bar girls from P.Burgos who is lamenting no customers to me almost daily. I told her quite bluntly to tell her mamasan that the prices are way too high. 500php per drink + 3500php for bar fine + Fee for the girl afterwards? No bloody wonder the bars are empty!

Happy mongering
Amavida

Saturday night I rode my cycle to check out the LA Cafe after hearing so much about it on these pages. I then rode over to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. EDSA was filled with beautiful girls and hardly a customer in sight. LA Cafe was filled with men and freelancers.

EDSA was clearly superior in terms of the quality and quantity of girls. Why doesn't anyone go to EDSA? I can assume its the convenience of being in Ermita or maybe people just don't know about it.

Hi,

I am on my first visit to Manila and staying at the Makati Shangri-La.

Where would be the best go go bars to go to? Is the Vodoo far?

Thanks for the advice for a newbie!

Be sure I will go to the EDSA when I will be in Manila in about 4 weeks.

Thanks for telling us that.

[QUOTE=Severin007]Saturday night I rode my cycle to check out the LA Cafe after hearing so much about it on these pages. I then rode over to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. EDSA was filled with beautiful girls and hardly a customer in sight. LA Cafe was filled with men and freelancers.

EDSA was clearly superior in terms of the quality and quantity of girls. Why doesn't anyone go to EDSA? I can assume its the convenience of being in Ermita or maybe people just don't know about it.[/QUOTE]

Ok. As your new I will help you. Firstly Voodoo is a long way rfrom Shang. Manila is a big city that includes the cities of Manila, Makati, Pasay, Pasig etc.

You are in Makati. And just 600 metres from you. Well maybe 800 is Burgos a collection of great lively bars with lots of cuties in bikinis. I was there last weekend and have been going there for past ten years or more.

Go there. Find a honey. Get her phone number nd meet her next day or after bar closes whatever. Don't pay the bar fines unless in Rogues where its much cheaper. Either way its a great intro. Girls in Burgos are of a slightly higher class than Edsa Entertainment complex, or Voodoo/Amazonia/LA Cafe etc.

Ok. I've helped someone so hopefully good karma will come my way.

Hi,

I have a simple questions after years & years of forum reading.

Where can I find some nice girls in the Philippines? Really NICE girls. Like xxx stars (or semi-pro) as we can see on movies like Philippine Girl or Bangkok Suckee Fuckee series. Great attitude, nice body, wonderful face. No problems for money. AND FOR TIME (2months trip over the country)

Thanks and. Sorry for my poor english.

[QUOTE=Mrfantastik]Hi,

I have a simple questions after years & years of forum reading.

Where can I find some nice girls in the Philippines? Really NICE girls. Like xxx stars (or semi-pro) as we can see on movies like Philippine Girl or Bangkok Suckee Fuckee series. Great attitude, nice body, wonderful face. No problems for money. AND FOR TIME (2months trip over the country)

Thanks and. Sorry for my poor english.[/QUOTE]

mmm let me see if i got this right...

Walk down the street or go into any mall in asia & look around.

Go online to every asian dating web site available, this takes a lot of time but very little money.

Walk in & out of every bar in south east asia, this takes time & more money.

Go to every high class escort agency in asia, this takes little time but a lot of money.

hehehehhehe he did i miss anything :-)

Happy mongering dude :-)
Amavida

Be careful out there

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion[/url]

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Be careful out there
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion[/url][/QUOTE] I checked out of my hotel in Makati and passed right by this mall on my way to the airport, 10 minutes before the bomb blast. Last week, I spend 20 hours in this mall. You never know:eek:

Stay safe
Robb

After reading this forum for a few months, I arrived in Manila with high hopes about visiting Air Force One and Starfleet. I waited til noon on my first day of arrival (their opening time) then cabbed to AF1, jet lag and all.

I accidentally wandered into the VIP area first, and saw a great fishbowl. There were around a dozen lovelies, many quite busty. I was told there was a special - "Two girls for the price of one." Only later did this get clarified. You pay for both girls, but you only pay for the room once. It was clearly b.s. "Two girls for the price of one" wasn't accurate.

I asked for a girl recommendation and was told that F2 was great. She looked fine, but I wanted to look around more before committing, so I went to see the Economy fishbowl. I saw plenty of beautiful faces here also. In the end I went with F2, as suggested.

Some staff escorted me to the room, and weren't particularly helpful. I was given sandals to wear that were much too small for me. I was told that bottled water was 100 pesos. Then, later, I was told that was water was complimentary.

Amazing how this place manages to complicate things as simple as "free water" or "two for the price of one"!

I passed on the water and waited and eventually the girl showed up. She seemed extremely nervous and kept chatting to me in tagalog. I told her I was sorry, but didn't know tagalog. She kept talking to me in tagalog. She then told me she was extremely shy and I was her first customer. This was a huge turnoff. If I was going to pay 4000 pesos total for a VIP girl, I wanted a good one. Not one who had no idea what she was doing in the sack.

Why did the papasan recommend this girl? I don't understand how some mongers prefer new girls. She was obviously scared and probably didn't want to be there in the first place. So I took her back to the front desk and asked for a different girl. I tried to do it in a face saving way. I didn't complain about her, but just said she was new and I was new too, so it was a bad match.

Papasan recommended a few other VIP girls. One cute girl caught my eye and I asked if she gave a good BJ. The papasan told me she did, but mumbled it. Looking back, I should have realized that means "No, not at all."

I picked this girl and we met in the room. She also told me she was shy (are any of Air Force One's girls not shy?), but she seemed a little more professional and we got down to business. She gave a mediocre awkward massage. At one point she was pushing my arms in strange ways that actually hurt my wrists and I had to tell her to stop. I was laying there trying to enjoy the lame massage, and she actually asked me "Are you going to sleep?" I quickly convinced her I wasn't at all sleepy.

She kept some of her clothes on and kept hiding a huge c-section scar on her lower abdomen with her hands. She acted extremely embarrassed about this scar. I managed to ignore it and we eventually got down to sex. She wasn't into it and didn't act like she was. She gave the slightest of hand jobs, gave me about 45 seconds of an unskilled, listless CBJ, then mounted me, did CG for a minute or two, and asked to switch positions. We screwed for a few minutes more, and it became really obvious that this wasn't going to be a VIP experience. I hadn't cum, but I didn't care. I wanted it over with. I told her I was disappointed, but paid her. Then I got out of there quickly, and complained to the papasan.

It was a ridiculous situation. Why was I paying a huge price for a girl with a nice face but below average body for a horrible massage and utterly uninspired sex? I had already refused the first choice, and it didn't feel right to also reject the second choice.

I told the papasan that I expected VIP girls to look and act like VIP girls. A C section scar the size of a shoe is a turnoff. 45 seconds of unskilled CBJ is a letdown. The papasan took my complaints, but wasn't particularly helpful or receptive. Looking back, there was more than one thing that wasn't right here. It was all hype, no substance.

Writing this off as a waste of time and big waste of money (by PI standards), I walked off and decided to try Starfleet instead.

From reading this forum, I don't doubt some guys have had great fun at AF1. I can just tell you it doesn't always work out that way. Don't believe everything you read! (especially when you're in AF1 and reading about phony offers like "2 girls for the price of 1" or "your choice of 6 massage oils!")

After I left I realized that I had accidentally pocketed my room key. It reads "flight 168 health spa" "CX 117 Marco Polo". Anyone have any ideas of what to do with it? Sell it on Monger-Ebay.com?

(Continued from last post)

Finding Star Fleet once you leave AF1 couldn't be easier. A previous poster said it was 1k away, but this isn't accurate. It's one city block - more like 300 or 400 meters away. And there are a couple signs, making it easy to spot. Also there's a Chowking on the way, which you can use as a landmark.

At Star Fleet I had much better luck. I went to the Soapy area, and saw about 7 girls on duty, many busty and gorgeous. I got a recommendaton for Wanda. I forget her number, but it might have been #22, based on past reports.

In the room she was extremely personable, friendly, and knew what she was doing. I've had soapie massages in Thailand, and this was comparable. She didn't use all the techniques I'd seen the Thai girls use, but she definitely had her own skills. She had lovely wide breasts she massaged my whole soaped up body with. She also licked me all over before she started her CBJ. I only regret that I came so quickly with her. Would have been nice to draw it out a while.

The price was the same (4000p for full service), but the difference between SF and AF1 was like night and day. Also, on the way out the security guards were extremely helpful in getting a cab for me. They told me to wait in the air conditioned building while they flagged down a cab.

I liked SF so much that I came again later in my trip. I had just arrived at MNL int'l, and figured since I was so close I may as well visit, luggage and all. I checked out all 3 fishbowls. Due to the time of night, prices were up. Least expensive option was 3000p. I went with a recommendation again, #258. Her name was Beth. We started off well enough, but she got a bit of an attitude later on. I told her something I disliked in bed and she made a big deal out of it and treated me rather coldly for it. She hardly smiled the whole time. Definitely would not repeat with her. I probably should have done another soapy massage that night.

Wanda was such a prize that it made up for Beth. Overall, I would recommend Star Fleet.

In general in PI, I'm not sure asking for a recommendation makes sense. I kept getting bad advice. In my whole trip, I think the only good recommendation I received was for Wanda.

I truly enjoyed your report, well written, easy to read, and, obviously another distinct point of view which adds to the sum knowledge of everyone here.

Unfortunately, the one thing I will remember from this report is the following line:

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo] I told her something I disliked in bed and she made a big deal out of it and treated me rather coldly for it.[/QUOTE]

All I am thinking is what could you have possibly told a massage girl that you *don't* like in bed that made her turn cold.... further, what could be something that you don't like that you would deliberately omit from here (presumably because you don't want people to know - no shame in that at all by the way - we twisted ones are the thing that keeps this world's sense of humour from dying out).

Please, do not construe this message as some sort of coercive mechanism to get you to tell us - if anything, I'd prefer you to think of it as the contrary. It's really got my imagination tingling and, to be honest, I'd rather not know - it'd take the fun out of my speculation.

Sorry again to focus on one very entertaining line of a very good report.

If anyone is interested, my bet is that he *doesn't* like the fish to still be alive while he wiggles it through her armpit making glug glug noises.

[QUOTE=Blunderer]All I am thinking is what could you have possibly told a massage girl that you *don't* like in bed that made her turn cold....
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Thanks for the kind words. Your reply is well written and amusing itself.

I see what you mean. Maybe it came across as a little weird the way I phrased it. There's a part of my body I didn't want her to play with. I don't think it's a big deal and thought she was out of line for having any kind of attitude. Maybe she was just being kind of cold because I was taking a little while to cum and she was annoyed.

The thing I keep wondering is what other people in this forum think of recommendations. I've had great experience with following up on recommendations of people in this forum, but not in getting opinions from the papasan or mamasan.

But sometimes you're new to a place and don't know who to pick out of a lineup. How do you make up your mind?