Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I did respond to you in a PM, but I wanted to go on public record as well, because I don't want people thinking that Bouganvillier is a dump. It's a very nice hotel, perfectly situated, with decent service and nice rooms. [/QUOTE]

I checked the place when I was in PP lately and although it does look nice it also does not have wireless internet in the rooms. You would think that a higher class hotel that goes for a premium near $100 would have (what I consider nowadays) a basic and easy to provide service, but nada.

[QUOTE=Denom]I checked the place when I was in PP lately and although it does look nice it also does not have wireless internet in the rooms. You would think that a higher class hotel that goes for a premium near $100 would have (what I consider nowadays) a basic and easy to provide service, but nada.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what rooms you might have seen, but mine did have wireless and it was included in the price. The problem for me was that the signal was weak, and intermittent, so ultimately I asked for a cable, which worked fine. Again, there was no charge for the Internet service.
GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't know what rooms you might have seen, but mine did have wireless and it was included in the price. The problem for me was that the signal was weak, and intermittent, so ultimately I asked for a cable, which worked fine. Again, there was no charge for the Internet service.
GE[/QUOTE]
OK - then I was mis-informed by the reception, as it often happens in these cases. I didn't check the rooms, only enquired whether such a service was available and they told me only in the lobby, not in the rooms. That's the 3rd time it happens to me (that the receptionist tells me the service is not available in the room, only to find out it actually is).

[QUOTE=Small Dick]As previously stated a lot of kmer places have been shut down, but lets face facts, P4P is still shit loads cheaper in Cambodia that Thailand.

Bar fines in Thailand in BKK are 600 thats well over a bar fine here of $10.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you can directly compare Thailand and Cambodia. Most people I know in Thailand barfine girls from the bar beers rather than the a-go-gos where the price is 300 baht, just over $9 at today's rate of exchange. The point is that five years there was no barfine in Cambodia which was novel and made PP very user friendly. Now those days have gone PP for my money has lost that edge.

[QUOTE=Doppel One]I recently returned after an absence of two years. And wow, I hardly recognized the place![/QUOTE]Superb summary of PP now and then.

I personally think the mongering scene peaked quite a while ago, back around 2000-04. But the decline over the past couple years has really been the final blow. There are still plenty of reasons to visit PP, but cheap easy sex is no longer one of them.

The flip side of this is that the new generation of Cambodian girls are a lot more open-minded than their sisters of ten or 15 years ago, and anyone who sticks around for a few months, learns a bit of Khmer, etc. will find all kinds of opportunities that didn't use to exist.

[QUOTE=Betong]Superb summary of PP now and then.

I personally think the mongering scene peaked quite a while ago, back around 2000-04. But the decline over the past couple years has really been the final blow. There are still plenty of reasons to visit PP, but cheap easy sex is no longer one of them.

The flip side of this is that the new generation of Cambodian girls are a lot more open-minded than their sisters of ten or 15 years ago, and anyone who sticks around for a few months, learns a bit of Khmer, etc. will find all kinds of opportunities that didn't use to exist.[/QUOTE]Bentong,

The whole se asia is on the decline back in the 1998 to 2002 the Asian financial melt down when the US dollar is strong and more girl avalible and everything is cheap at Thailand, PI and China, the 5 USD FS is long gone at PP but is still cheaper than most place in asia.

Fast Eddie 48

Yes, its true, PP has lost all of its former glory. Where is the time you got up in the morning, looked at your watch and said; that more hours till 6 tonight, the time Sophie Club opended, upon entrance all girls in the bar gave you a public blowjob, damage one dollar each, ahh. 12 girls 12 bucks. Where is the time?

But, even today 10 bucks gets you laid almost anywhere on the condition you are NOT picky concerning looks.

Barfine? Not in my lifetime. Never paid one and never will. They can leave their ass where they are, there is no need for it in PP. It was introduced here by what is commonly called; the Pattaya scum; of whom many are gone back where they came from. If I do meet a girl I like who needs to be barfined, just ask for her mobile and will call here off job. No problem. All comply.

So can a tourist still enjoy himself with the ladies? For sure he can, when he is prepared to accept that All Bars available to him will be less then what he would find in e. G. Soi 7 in Pattaya. And the stunners are thin here. But if you are not picky, there is no problem. And cheap.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Bentong,

the 5 USD FS is long gone at PP

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]


$5 long gone???
Not totally true for PP, still available if you are willing to wander around abit. And as CamboS. said below, if you are willing to forgive a bit on the looks department.

Shark

[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter]But, even today 10 bucks gets you laid almost anywhere on the condition you are NOT picky concerning looks.

Barfine? Not in my lifetime. Never paid one and never will. They can leave their ass where they are, there is no need for it in PP. If I do meet a girl I like who needs to be barfined, just ask for her mobile and will call here off job. No problem. All comply.[/QUOTE]I have to agree that a lot is still possible for 10 bucks. But when you pay that, do not go back to the same bar next evening if it was a bar in street 104 or 136. And about the barfine, yes it might be possible not to pay, if you like to wait all the time until the closes. I f I have 20 bucks drinking bill and they add 5 dollar BF, fine I pay 25 and no tip. Without a BF I might have tipped 2 or 3 dollar. So what is the difference? I do not bother that much about 5 bucks as long as I will get good service afterwards.

[QUOTE=Sharka]$5 long gone???
Not totally true for PP, still available if you are willing to wander around abit. And as CamboS. said below, if you are willing to forgive a bit on the looks department.

Shark[/QUOTE]to Shark,

That was back in 1998 only been to pp a few time ,not been back since 2006 not sure will be back again just enjoy China and other country better, Cambo and PP is not a safe place to wander around to look for cheap thrill too danger.

Fast eddie 48

Gosh, am I ever ticked:

Went to 136 Bar and ordered two Bacardi/cokes for me and my gf. We have been there several times the past few weeks and most of the staff know us. I am definitely not a Cheap Charley.

The drinks the waitress delivered definitely were not Bacardi (might have been cheap smelly gin), but the waitress would not listen to my plea or offer to exchange our drinks (which had only been sipped: the pungent odor was clearly not Bacardi).

Without drinking the concoction, I paid the bill (no tip) and told the waitress and the "minder" that we would not be back (and I doubt I will).

Afterwards, I wondered: should I have reported the incident to the manager, or was I correct in telling the two staff persons and politely leaving?

Bule2004

Afterwards, I wondered: should I have reported the incident to the manager, or was I correct in telling the two staff persons and politely leaving?

Bule2004

You most certainly did the right thing. It would have got very very nasty for you if you had not paid.

The past few months a number of Bar owners (hostess related or not Bars) literally had to FLEE THE COUNTRY, leaving everything they could not take with them behind. Gives you an idea about how bad it is here. Not for all, some bar are working very well and making money. If this had happended to me I would show no restraint at all in naming and shamimg the bar in question, because that is exactly what they deserve, so others members here know, and if they like can find out for themselves. But I am not surprised at all, probably just cheap local crap added, and here is your drink!

To Shark,

That was back in 1998 only been to pp a few time, not been back since 2006 not sure will be back again just enjoy China and other country better, Cambo and PP is not a safe place to wander around to look for cheap thrill too danger.

Fast Eddie 48

Nobody has to doubt for a moment what Sharka writes is true, actually, today on the 15 of May 2010 it is possible to get laid in the Penh for 3 bucks, but I do not believe you would like, although you do get pussy for it.

A quick word on the issue of Barfines, I believe that if you come as a tourist for a couple of days this should indeed be no problem, but again, as you LIVE here, there really, really is no need for it. A few hours ago I picked one up from one of these bars, I called her on her mobile and just told her would pick her up on the junction of 136/13, and there she was. No barfine.

Whatever she told the bar I do not know, if ever she told them anything, as sometimes there are so many of them that one missing for an hour they might not even notice, as they sit inside and outside the business. I asked her how is business, and she said it is very very bad. That comfirms e. G. My own observations. For I think almost a month now I have for instance not seen a living soul in Hotel Flamingos, normally there are often barangs sitting outside with their girls, but not lately, not afternoon and not evening time, although they might be full, I do not know, but when I pass there not a living soul to be seen.

Things, for many barang who run a Bar business here, are not looking good at all. Not at all. And the fake drinks are not going to help.

[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter]
Nobody has to doubt for a moment what Sharka writes is true, actually, today on the 15 of May 2010 it is possible to get laid in the Penh for 3 bucks, but I do not believe you would like, although you do get pussy for it.

.[/QUOTE]


Hey Cambo,
I've seen and done the $5 and some were ok even for that price, but reckon can't even imagine what the $3 ones will look like. Maybe I'll have a look just for curiousity on my next venture there.
cheers pal

Shark

[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter]Nobody has to doubt for a moment what Sharka writes is true, actually, today on the 15 of May 2010 it is possible to get laid in the Penh for 3 bucks, but I do not believe you would like, although you do get pussy for it.[/QUOTE]Camboblowshooter

A number of years ago I was propositioned by a gal in a bar around the corner from Flamingos who wanted $1 for the works: BJ, full penetration. And god knows what else she would have thrown in for the price. I declined (most sensible people would given the state she was in) but the lady got her dollar which slipped out of my pocket and into her palm out of sheer pity.

I wonder if its the same lady you encountered just recently charging $3. Factoring in PP inflation over the years? Did she have any teeth?

Doppel One

[quote=Camboblowshooter]Nobody has to doubt for a moment what Sharka writes is true, actually, today on the 15 of May 2010 it is possible to get laid in the Penh for 3 bucks, but I do not believe you would like, although you do get pussy for it.
Camboblowshooter[/quote]A number of years ago I was propositioned by a gal in a bar around the corner from Flamingos who wanted $1 for the works: BJ, full penetration. And god knows what else she would have thrown in for the price. I declined (most sensible people would given the state she was in) but the lady got her dollar which slipped out of my pocket and into her palm out of sheer pity.

I wonder if its the same lady you encountered just recently charging $3. Factoring in PP inflation over the years? Did she have any teeth?

Good observation. Still valid today, however the teethless are charging a bit more now, indeed inflation.
The 3 dollar gals I was talking about are sitting in so called hoarhouses. This is also, as far as I understand, the bottom price. But they do start by asking higher, but a continuous no from the punter get price down to 3.
I am not able to comment on the quality of them, as I have never used their services. Dental work in this country is very cheap, so really, no matter which gal I meet whose teeth are not in good order, she will not jump on the back of my motorbike, because I consider bad teeth same as bad general cleanliness.
What I can tell you for sure is that those who are working there, well, they are at the end of the row...
It is all up to the individual himself. The point was merely made that you can get laid for 5 or even 3 bucks in the Penh today.

I meet many girls, and it is my personal impression that for example a number of those Walkabout girls would not have to think long if you would stand your ground on 5 bucks ST. And no, I have never taken on out there, but that is my impression from talking to them. Most of them, I do not like their teeth too much...

Looks dont matter to me, it is the quality under the head I am interested in, and it would be very wrong to assume that a non-looker could/would not have perfect hygiene.

The price for all this is up to you, but I never have to call a girl 2 times to come to my house or pick her up somewhere in the city. I am always respectfull and gracious to them. All the time.

ATTENTION ; my gal of last night also informed me that the coppers are now cracking down on tourist/barang drug users, apparantly some barang had to pay their way out of the coppers station after getting caught smoking grass here, so be warned. If I am informed well the coppers are actually informing the Bar owners smoking grass is over...(I am a non-smoker), so...be careful. Fun in the penh...??