Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=TorbJorn;1508329]Does anal cost extra at the Eden? If so, how much?[/QUOTE]Do a search here on Eden and you will find tons of reports on what happens at Eden.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1508665]Do a search here on Eden and you will find tons of reports on what happens at Eden.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.edenbangkok.com[/url]

Just as easy to post a link.

[QUOTE=RockHound74;1508603]I hope this girl was damn good for 5000THB. I have not been to Rainbow4 but if you paid 5000 for her I might have to go check it out next time for some stunners. I usually pay 3000 for LT and get 3 pops (2 through the night and one for a wake up call).[/QUOTE]5000 is normal price! I'd like to see what you get at Rainb 4 for 3,000 baht. Does the girl bring her own bag to wear while having sex?

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508529]Who says Thais have no business sense? DaBed hotel in suk. Soi 4 has lowered its short time rate to 300 baht from 350 baht.[/QUOTE]Its probably purely that a competition ST Hotel is a better standard or better price, so they were forced to lower price or have no customers. There are several ST Hotel options.

Sure GFE is not exactly a skill set. Its just that some girls are willing to have a good time (with the right customer) to some extent as well as make money. Non-GFE girls are more for making it business like or procedural for the customer, which is an anti-skill. Who wants to fuck a dead-fish type? Others know how to move their hips and know how to make their pussy squeeze and massage the dick. That is a skill or ability. They don't have to do it if they don't want to but certainly helps the experience greatly for me and many others. Nice DFK makes me hard quicker than any other way.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1508229]So well stated. I agree 100. If all dudes operated from this premise, things would be better for all. How many times have we all heard, "She's different." Uh, no she is not.[/QUOTE]Very cynical attitude, coming from years of disappointment. Every girl is obviously different. It just depends of the extent. Their are great girls well worth repeating for years (for me) , and there are ordinary girls not worth repeating, and there are shockers that I don't meet too often. Their are working girls looking for a boyfriend to settle down. Its just they do sex for a living until they find a good guy, that can solve their problems.

Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508407]Come on guys-stop saying you and girl really got along but you won't be doing her again. One time and finish means session wasn't that hot! You guys are not the lovers you think you are. LOL.[/QUOTE]What is your point? Are you actually saying anything here? Is up to every guy whether they like repeating or want to repeat.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1508833]Very cynical attitude, coming from years of disappointment. Every girl is obviously different. It just depends of the extent. Their are great girls well worth repeating for years (for me) , and there are ordinary girls not worth repeating, and there are shockers that I don't meet too often. Their are working girls looking for a boyfriend to settle down. Its just they do sex for a living until they find a good guy, that can solve their problems.

Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.[/QUOTE]Cynical? No realistic. Coming from years of living here and years of seeing dude's attempts at relationships with working girls.

Years of disappointment? Had a blast in the past. Still have some fun at times.

"Severe urgent economic problems" are usually the result of bad decisions. No one is "forced" into the business unless they are sold, which is a crime. Yes, I have met girls who have a good work ethic, but they are few and far between. Working in the sex industry is the easy way out. Always has been. They have choices. More and more each day. That is why the quality of gal has gone down so much.

Problem is exactly what you stated above, a guy that can solve their problems. A guy can't solve her problems. He can be bled dry by a parasitic family in the blink of an eye. He can be left high and dry when she finds a "gooder guy."

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508407]Come on guys-stop saying you and girl really got along but you won't be doing her again. One time and finish means session wasn't that hot! You guys are not the lovers you think you are. LOL.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I'm normally a "one and done" guy, but it doesn't mean that I didn't get along with the girl or that I didn't find her attractive or good in bed. In Bangkok (or any mongering destination) , I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife. I'm on a vacation and an adventure so I want to sample as many girls as possible. If the girl was incredibly "hot" and I hadn't had any luck with any other girl, I might go back for round two; but I'd still be on the hunt for another "hot" girl. Life is too short and there are just too many "hot" girls to sample.

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508169]Ponder this. Why would any race want to pay twice what others are paying? Makes no sense. Salarymen work hard like everyone else for their yen.[/QUOTE]Maybe that 'race' lives in a country where getting a similar service is freakingly expensive.

Some of the Japanese tourists will pay 50-60k yen (15-20k Baht) for 1 hour back in Tokyo, without blinking an eye.

Also, in Japan people just don't negotiate the price.

Sometimes I chat with Japanese clients at the bar and their pov is that places such as Baccara and Rainbow 4 are paradise compared to what they get in Japan.

I believe that many regulars to the BKK scene have noted that in previous posts. So I am probably just repeating what someone else said before. Sorry, it's just the 'race' thing that tipped me off.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1508886]I disagree. I'm normally a "one and done" guy, but it doesn't mean that I didn't get along with the girl or that I didn't find her attractive or good in bed. In Bangkok (or any mongering destination) , I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife. I'm on a vacation and an adventure so I want to sample as many girls as possible. If the girl was incredibly "hot" and I hadn't had any luck with any other girl, I might go back for round two; but I'd still be on the hunt for another "hot" girl. Life is too short and there are just too many "hot" girls to sample.[/QUOTE]I am with you there. Repeat? Maybe, but after some times passes, like a few months. I am not on vacation, but still want new all the time. Problem is it is getting harder and harder to find lookers that perform at the drop of a hat.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1508833]Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.[/QUOTE]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]Interesting point!

From my experience though it's not about the 'quality' (for lack of a better word) of a monger, it's the lack of insanity of said monger.

I don't speak Thai (and have no interest in learning) so it's a little difficult to for me to really get into a Thai girls head in a one on one situation (and I never repeat so my access to her little brain is limited) but often when I take 2 girls LT, especially during daylight, and in the last few hours, worn down from booze, sex and other fun things, when I know I'm spent, getting bored and am sending them home in a couple of hours I'll get them to talk about their experiences.

And with 2 girls, each experience sparks one from the other so it's less scripted and more sincere.

Rarely do they speak about good times and good guys. They always, in my experience, focus on the bad times either for them or someone they know. And some of the stories are truly ugly (and I'm no pollyanna) They all have some story where they got thrown a really big tip or they see a guy repeatedly who treats them well, but for the 'one offs' it's mostly its one horror story after another.

Now, I do not recommend this topic at all because it is a real buzz kill and it's hard to bring the conversation back around to ribbons and bows and my dick in their mouths when they get all fired up by bad experiences so that why I have only brought it up towards the end of a session.

I think that after just a little while of hooking, the 'fun' wears off and they are mostly in 'damage control' mode either consciously or subconsciously, which for a Thai lady is basically getting in and out safely and with the money she was promised.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]I think fair pay and good manners are the most important. I doubt bfe and pse even is a blip on their list of priorities. I doubt on the bus ride back from issan girls are thinking of a senoir citizen giving them multiple orgasms.

Further. If ippuns were paying way over the top, the Rainbow stages would be full of hot girls trying to get a piece of the action. High season and just ok lookers and many not ok lookers. Rainbow 1 has a certifiable 8 in face and body quality-about as good as you going to get in an agogo. Very friendly too.

I saw even a Jap say girls run out on them early on their agreed on long times too.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1506115]Yep, get a membership.[/QUOTE]Done and done.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]Manners? Are you forgetting that most of these hookers are back-woods country bumpkins who would not know good manners if it socked them in the face? And sense of humor? It is extremely difficult for humor to cross cultures that share the same language. The hope must really be thin for totally different cultures with totally different languages. Pay the money and ride the rides and stop trying to make friends with the carneys. Besides, why the heck would you care what a hooker thinks? Do you also care what the person at McDonald's thinks when you tell them you don't want onions on your burger? They aren't doing you any favors; you are paying for a service. When you finish with her, her mind is on to finding the next customer, not rating her experience with the previous 30.