Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2359510]I did not mention anything about entire villages, that is laughable.

I think Aids would relatively easily be suspected by doctors when people die of very abnormal causes, diseases that they would normally survive, we have all heard of stuff like Karposi's Sarcoma, etc.

.[/QUOTE]Many hiv negative people develop kaposi sarcoma, kaposi sarcoma doesn't only happen in hiv positive people. Kaposi sarcoma also happens in hiv negative Mediterranean, middle eastern and jewish people. People suffer from endemic kaposi sarcoma in Africa and some poor villages in Asia but it's less common than in Africa. , it's not hiv related. People that underwent chemotherapy or recieved transplant also develop kaposi sarcoma. There are many cases of hiv negative gay men that developed kaposi sarcoma.

HIV statistics are exgerated.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2359552]I don't even have faith in the accuracy of the "1 in 2,500 HIV-Positive exposures" for the chance of a man acquiring it from a woman estimated by the CDC despite posting the link for that estimate myself.

First of all, I assume they rounded up just to produce that 1 in 2,500 (or 4 in 10,000) HIV-Positive exposures number for the scariest, attention-grabbing impact they could possibly get away with anyway.

Second, as far as I saw there is no accounting for possible pertinent co-factors such as that 1 guy being uncircumcised, having a gaping open wound sore on his penis at the time, engaing in prolonged, rough, skin abrasive sex or anything else that might and only might have been the reason he acquired it rather than merely the result of ordinary vaginal sex with his circumcised penis.

And, third, is there any doubt that of the thousands of case studies the CDC reviewed there had to be at least a dozen men who would not under threat of torture ever admit they do occasionally if not exclusely like to take it up the butt with their longtime companion, Bruno? Or to admit they indulged in needle sharing behind the YMCA Disco that time?

Same goes for the female numbers in those CDC estimates for vaginal sex transmission. Surely, there were a few women who would take their secret desire for Anal to the grave rather than admit it to a clinic research tech as well as any admission of sharing needles.

Of all the possible sexual activities one could admit to, regular vaginal intercourse would naturally be the Go-To one to admit to while refusing to admit to any other sexual activity in order to avoid all possible social stigma judgement and backlash. Yet even with that going for it the estimates were extremely low for both men and women.[/QUOTE]To me, circumcision doesn't protect from HIV and HSV. Vaginal sex is not a risk for hiv, I have seen many circumcised men that developed HSV outbreaks. Circumcision offers protection against balanitis, syphilistic chancres, chancroid, granuloma inguinale, Lymphogranuloma venereum, gonorrhea, chlamydia and penile cancer (squamous cell carcinoma). Sores don't increase the risk of hiv, because the blood quantity is not enough to contaminate, HIV virus is very weak unlike HSV and flu. Most people have gum diseases, if hiv was easily transmited, everybody would be hiv positve and there would be as many hiv positive people as hsv positive people.

STD related genital ulcer in Brazil. 92 per cent of STD related genital ulcers are HSV, 6 per cent: chancroid, 1 per cent: syphilitic ulcer, 1 per cent: Inguinale Granuloma, Lymphogranuloma Venereum and Cancerous ulcers caused by HPV.

Overall, non STD ulcers (Balanitis, friction burn etc) are more common than STD ulcers. 30 - 40 per cent of genital ulcers, there is no etiology found. That means the cause of the ulcer is not found. Uncircumcised men are more likely to develop genital ulcers than circumcised men. But the cases of hiv in uncrcumcised straight men are still remote. There is no proof circumcision protects from hiv.

Abrasion and gum disease don't increase the risk of hiv, most people have gum diseases or get cuts or abrasion after sex.

In Brazil, most women get assfucked, but gays are still the most infected (82 per cent). Most infected women live in poor rural areas and use injections. A few women got hiv by birth or from transfusion. There are a few unlucky straight women.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2359510]I did not mention anything about entire villages, that is laughable.
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[/QUOTE]I was only referring to certain kinds of reports in general, not really quoting you. And I was not confining it to Thailand.

I don't even need to provide a link. Just do a Google Search for "Entire village wiped out by AIDS" and you will get results for such reports from several years ago, some more recent follow up reports. The origin was sometimes attributed to widespread dissemination of tainted blood products but not always.

If I was irresponsible and indulged in bare back full sex with prostitutes I would seek out and take comfort in reports that state that you cannot get HIV from vaginal sex and would also totally ignore the prevalence of antibiotic resistant gonorrhea.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2359681]If I was irresponsible and indulged in bare back full sex with prostitutes I would seek out and take comfort in information that states that you cannot get HIV from vaginal sex and would also totally ignore the world wide prevalence of gonorrhea that resists last-resort antibiotics.[/QUOTE]Who said bareback is safe? Bareback is not safe for STDs, supergonorrhea LOL, you are scared of that, it's very painful and very scary, It's good to be scared. Vaginal sex is safe for HIV but not safe for spooky STDs and being a responsible father. You know what to do, don't take antibiotics when you are not sick from bacterial diseases, you won't have trouble with gonorrhea when you take antibiotics. Don't you think it will be funny to see discharge coming from Urethra? Maybe you will be lucky to meet a sexy urologist, she will offer you BBBJ and suck you until you are cured and get it again. Do you know you can also get gonorrhea from blow jobs and more than once? I will go to Paris Cafe tonight in Barra and fuck some girls to be lucky to catch gonorrhea tonight. I have been fucking for decades , I have never been lucky to catch gonorrhea, life is not fair. LOOOL

[QUOTE=Turgid;2359681]If I was irresponsible and indulged in bare back full sex with prostitutes I would seek out and take comfort in reports that state that you cannot get HIV from vaginal sex and would also totally ignore the prevalence of antibiotic resistant gonorrhea.[/QUOTE]Luckily for you there are condoms available all over the world, sometimes for free, and you can wear one for every sex act every time. You probably won't be as certain you have been kept safe and are safe for your partner with regard to serious problems and unwanted pregnancy doing that as I am doing what I do. But it is better than nothing, I suppose.

To suggest you cannot get HIV from vaginal sex is at best simply not true and at worse dangerously irresponsible by having impressionable individuals believe it especially if it comes from self-appointed "experts". Read the accepted science on how HIV is transmitted and it is patently obvious and beyond question HIV can be contracted in a number of ways including unprotected vaginal sex. I accept the extent of the risk can be debated and does depend on a number of variable circumstances. I accept it is down to each of us to decide whether to go BBFS or not but I also remind those that do that there is another person involved not just oneself.

A tad preachy I know but I get annoyed reading some of irresponsible nonsense that continuously appears on this subject.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;2360267]Bareback is available everywhere. The onus is on you to protect yourself. I bet some of the guys who were bragging about barebacking Ferry and gangbanging Ferry are shitting bricks now.👀[/QUOTE]I kinda doubt it. High risk behavior (such as bareback sex, including anal, with massage girls) is a trademark characteristic of sociopathic behavior. They bore easily and need riskier and riskier actions to satiate their boredom.

Sociopaths don't feel fear like psychonormatives do. Probably mild annoyance at needing to get an HIV test. And, then, even if positive, they'll just carry on.

Can we contract Fournier's Gangrene from sex?

Should we be worried about gonorrhea? [URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywpa4y/untreatable-gonorrhea-is-terrifying-so-scientists-are-stepping-up[/URL].

Gonorrhea is easy to cure with antibiotics, even supergonorrhea can be cured. Gonorrhea can also go away on its own without antibiotics but you won't deelop any immunity. STDs are like every disease, everything is about good immunity.

[QUOTE=BrazilRio;2361262]Can we contract Fournier's Gangrene from sex?[/QUOTE]Not generally. HOWEVER, if you have an open wound and an infected person you interact with has an open wound, to suggest you cannot get Fournier's Gangrene from vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, rimming, a handjob, DFK, closed mouth kissing, hugging, a massage, bumping into them on the BTS, MRT, walking down the street or while scooting over to make room for one more person in a bar is simply not true and dangerously irresponsible.

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/fourniers-gangrene[/URL]#qampa.

It is estimated 1 in 7,500 people will get the disease, apparently regardless of the status of your sexual partners or other people around you. It should be considered a medical emergency at first sign of infection. Best treatment is to have your scrotum and surrounding area removed immediately before it spreads. It is usually fatal.

Your chances of getting it increase if you are 50+ years old, overweight, eat sweets or drink alcohol.

I don't even have faith in the accuracy of the "1 in 2,500 HIV-Positive exposures" for the chance of a man acquiring it from a woman estimated by the CDC despite posting the link for that estimate myself.

First of all, I assume they rounded up just to produce that 1 in 2,500 (or 4 in 10,000) HIV-Positive exposures number for the scariest, attention-grabbing impact they could possibly get away with anyway.

Second, as far as I saw there is no accounting for possible pertinent co-factors such as that 1 guy being uncircumcised, having a gaping open wound sore on his penis at the time, engaing in prolonged, rough, skin abrasive sex or anything else that might and only might have been the reason he acquired it rather than merely the result of ordinary vaginal sex with his circumcised penis.

And, third, is there any doubt that of the thousands of case studies the CDC reviewed there had to be at least a dozen men who would not under threat of torture ever admit they do occasionally if not exclusely like to take it up the butt with their longtime companion, Bruno? Or to admit they indulged in needle sharing behind the YMCA Disco that time?

Same goes for the female numbers in those CDC estimates for vaginal sex transmission. Surely, there were a few women who would take their secret desire for Anal to the grave rather than admit it to a clinic research tech as well as any admission of sharing needles.

Of all the possible sexual activities one could admit to, regular vaginal intercourse would naturally be the Go-To one to admit to while refusing to admit to any other sexual activity in order to avoid all possible social stigma judgement and backlash. Yet even with that going for it the estimates were extremely low for both men and women.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html[/URL]

You doubt 1 in 2500 LMAO.

An inconvenient stat for you perhaps? LOL.

Let me guess you have passed or are approaching that milestone?

Are you afraid you are statistically overdo?

If you don't trust the CDC #s.

Ok? What do you think the risk is??

Even if one has had 2500 different BBFS partners, I think its safe to say.

They were not all HIV+ LOL (although I'm guessing one should assume so especially with p4 p).

In your case Mr T, for your sake, I seriously hope not?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2361375]Not generally. HOWEVER, if you have an open wound and an infected person you interact with has an open wound, to suggest you cannot get Fournier's Gangrene from vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, rimming, a handjob, DFK, closed mouth kissing, hugging, a massage, bumping into them on the BTS, MRT, walking down the street or while scooting over to make room for one more person in a bar is simply not true and dangerously irresponsible.[/QUOTE]To suggest you cannot catch verbal diarrhea from shaking hands, touching noses, licking ears, leaving finger nail clippings lying around, sharing the same newspaper, sharing the same umbrella, waving across the street to each other, sharing the same birthday or while shitting bricks sitting in the same waiting room at the STD clinic is simply not true and dangerously irresponsible.

[URL]https://www.shabdkosh.com/dictionary/hindi-english/diarrhea/diarrhea-meaning-in-english[/URL]

Wow, I have never heard about that. It sounds pretty scary. Is it common in Thailand?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2361375]Not generally. HOWEVER, if you have an open wound and an infected person you interact with has an open wound, to suggest you cannot get Fournier's Gangrene from vaginal sex, oral sex, anal sex, rimming, a handjob, DFK, closed mouth kissing, hugging, a massage, bumping into them on the BTS, MRT, walking down the street or while scooting over to make room for one more person in a bar is simply not true and dangerously irresponsible.

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/fourniers-gangrene[/URL]#qampa.

It is estimated 1 in 7,500 people will get the disease, apparently regardless of the status of your sexual partners or other people around you. It should be considered a medical emergency at first sign of infection. Best treatment is to have your scrotum and surrounding area removed immediately before it spreads. It is usually fatal.

Your chances of getting it increase if you are 50+ years old, overweight, eat sweets or drink alcohol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2361413]I don't even have faith in the accuracy of the "1 in 2,500 HIV-Positive exposures" for the chance of a man acquiring it from a woman estimated by the CDC despite posting the link for that estimate myself.
attention-grabbing impact they could possibly get away with anyway.[/QUOTE]All Stats have to be unreliable because people get asked what things they did, but they either tell lies are very forgetful. Just like how in sex surveys, people report they are getting much more than they actually get.

So when asked how many times the patient had sex, and what types, are the answers believable? Not really.

So we have best guesses for average persons.

Fortunately it is likely that not every last person interviewed told lies (maybe only 99% liars LOL). So if various HIV+ women only had vaginal sex, we have to conclude, that catching it this way is possible, or there are other unidentified risks. We can't prove anything much by example, it is much easier to disprove by counter-example.