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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2551026]I'm not going in circles with you[/QUOTE]Sure, there's no need. We've established that no serious democracy anywhere in the world permits mass mail-in voting because it is so obviously fraudulent. The recent US election has proved the case. Good day.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2551159]There are more people here "illegally" from visa overstays than from crossing the southern border. Why not fix that problem first? Maybe because lots of visa overstays are white?[/QUOTE]What an idiotic non-sequitur. If you have a broken leg and a broken arm, and someone comes along to treat your broken arm, do you send him away because your leg is also broken? You're really not even making an effort any more.
[QUOTE=Canada;2551801]BLM and Anfisa still trying to burn down federal buildings in Portland.[/QUOTE]Guessing you're a 90-Day Fiancee fan?
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2551039]It's anything but impressive, repeating the same fallacious arguments over and over in a monger forum.[/QUOTE]Why do you keep doing it then?
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2551746]Chicago[/QUOTE]How many shootings in Chicago over the past year?
Sure, there are nice parts of Chicago where wealthy people (largely of a certain demographic) can hole up. But much of it (largely containing another demographic) can only be described as a shithole.
If it's about poverty, why don't we see the same level of violence in poor rural white areas?
[QUOTE=Canada;2551840]You forgot one thing. Employment records were set by Trump before the Chinese Covid shut down USA. Under Trump black, Hispanic, women and all minorities were had the highest number of jobs ever and unemployment for all these groups was at an all time low. Voting democrats basically will not bring these jobs back. That is a fact and you can check it on the US government statistics.
Biden has no plan for jobs but just makes up numbers like on the fake infrastructure plan of his. He claimed 19,000,000 new jobs and actually it was fact checked to 2,000,000. If he does nothing 2,000,000 new jobs will be created in next 4 years.[/QUOTE]Obama got the unemployment rate from 11% to 4.7% over 8 years. Trump got it from 4.7 %to 3.5% over 3 years prior to Covid while blowing the deficit out during boom times. Basically the same as Obama except Obama was reducing the deficit.
Given your total inability to understand any economic analysis your prognosis on Biden is not worth reading.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2550750]Hardly. The 2020 election trended heavily republican. The GOP won a majority of state legislatures; it very nearly won back the House (and will do so in 2022); and the expected big democrat Senate gains didn't materialize either. As for the presidency, Trump had it won at midnight, before the count was stopped in democrat shithole cities, republican observers expelled, and pallets full of ballots for Biden began mysteriously appearing.
All of that, of course, was under the fraudulent democrat "mail-in" voting scam, allegedly due to covid. By next time, the covid excuse will be gone so they will have to return to in-person voting which is much harder for them to rig.[/QUOTE]I really don't understand why people are still trying to push the story of a stolen election, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, including investigations by Trump acolytes such as Barr.
Take one case: Michigan. The story was that 6 out of state cars turned up at the Detroit count centre in the early hours of the morning, and started unloading ballot boxes, which were supposed to contain Biden only votes. There were supposed to be six witnesses to this. When their affidavits came before a judge, most were along the lines of, "I didn't see it. Someone told me about it". Notwithstanding that this is clearly inadmissible hearsay, you have to ask yourself why, in an age when most people have camera phones, were there no pics of this?
I can understand if someone were to say, "These were Trump supporters, so they were probably not that bright". However, assuming that it did happen, you have to wonder why the lawyer bringing the case, never made any attempt to subpoena the Detroit City CCTV network cameras of which there are hundreds. My explanation is that the Lawyer didn't believe his own witnesses and had he done so, the case would never have even made it to court for the same reason as the "witnesses" didn't take any pics: Because it did not happen.
No pics? Nobody thought to write down a single number plate in spite of their suspicions? Their own lawyer did not ask to see CCTV that would have corroborated the affidavits? Need I say more?
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2551866]It would be a pretty stupid fraud in which the "fraudster" ended up paying money to the government. But of course to collect welfare (as well as pretty much every other basic function of life) you need a photo ID. Just give it up, nobody believes your ridiculous argument. Any US citizen who is serious about voting has or can easily get a photo ID. Anyone who cannot get one is either not serious or (and this is why the democrats want to ban photo ID requirements) not a US citizen or otherwise ineligible (IE convicted felon).[/QUOTE]Texas has one (1) DMV per county. Some counties are so big that someone could live 2 hours from a DMV. If you don't drive, you'd need to have a friend drive you and waste at least half-a-day. Plus the wear-and-tear on that person's vehicle. Yep, easy.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2551870]What an idiotic non-sequitur. If you have a broken leg and a broken arm, and someone comes along to treat your broken arm, do you send him away because your leg is also broken? You're really not even making an effort any more.[/QUOTE]Then why not refute my statement with actual facts?
Here's the star witness, Chris' sister. Lolololol.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f3aw9rk30[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2551993]I really don't understand why people are still trying to push the story of a stolen election, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, including investigations by Trump acolytes such as Barr.
Take one case: Michigan. The story was that 6 out of state cars turned up at the Detroit count centre in the early hours of the morning, and started unloading ballot boxes, which were supposed to contain Biden only votes. There were supposed to be six witnesses to this. When their affidavits came before a judge, most were along the lines of, "I didn't see it. Someone told me about it". Notwithstanding that this is clearly inadmissible hearsay, you have to ask yourself why, in an age when most people have camera phones, were there no pics of this?
I can understand if someone were to say, "These were Trump supporters, so they were probably not that bright". However, assuming that it did happen, you have to wonder why the lawyer bringing the case, never made any attempt to subpoena the Detroit City CCTV network cameras of which there are hundreds. My explanation is that the Lawyer didn't believe his own witnesses and had he done so, the case would never have even made it to court for the same reason as the "witnesses" didn't take any pics: Because it did not happen.
No pics? Nobody thought to write down a single number plate in spite of their suspicions? Their own lawyer did not ask to see CCTV that would have corroborated the affidavits? Need I say more?[/QUOTE]
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So, Russia is massing troops on the border with Ukraine. Ukraine is threatening to take Crimea back by force.
China is threatening Taiwan and its neighbors while also threatening our ships and Navy.
And Korea is testing missiles again and restarting its nuclear weapons program.
Iran has been emboldened and making more than their normal threats.
Our southern border is a humanitarian disaster caused directly by this administration, and the administration that promised transparency is hiding it and not letting the media have access.
Ford is closing a plant and moving it to Mexico after just bringing it back from Mexico because of the current Administration's plan for Increased taxes.
Price of steel up 145%, lumber 126%, wheat up 25%, food index up 25%, cotton 35%, silver 38%, copper 50%, soybeans 71%, oil 80%, etc, etc.
Pipeline jobs lost.
Wall construction jobs lost.
1. 9 trillion in stimulus that funds the administration's pet projects and only paid a fraction to the people.
29 trillion in debt with a 4. 8 trillion projected 2021 deficit before the 2 trillion dollar stimulus proposed today for the new green deal.
6+% unemployment with millions of job openings that can't be filled because federal unemployment assistance makes it more advantageous for people to stay home than work.
All in the first 70 days.
The current president is a disaster. Hold on, the next 4 years are going to be a rough ride.
All I'm saying is. You Biden supporters aren't posting very much about the great things he's doing.
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So, Russia is massing troops on the border with Ukraine. Ukraine is threatening to take Crimea back by force.
China is threatening Taiwan and its neighbors while also threatening our ships and Navy.
And Korea is testing missiles again and restarting its nuclear weapons program.
Iran has been emboldened and making more than their normal threats.
Our southern border is a humanitarian disaster caused directly by this administration, and the administration that promised transparency is hiding it and not letting the media have access.
Ford is closing a plant and moving it to Mexico after just bringing it back from Mexico because of the current Administration's plan for Increased taxes.
Price of steel up 145%, lumber 126%, wheat up 25%, food index up 25%, cotton 35%, silver 38%, copper 50%, soybeans 71%, oil 80%, etc, etc.
Pipeline jobs lost.
Wall construction jobs lost.
1. 9 trillion in stimulus that funds the administration's pet projects and only paid a fraction to the people.
29 trillion in debt with a 4. 8 trillion projected 2021 deficit before the 2 trillion dollar stimulus proposed today for the new green deal.
6+% unemployment with millions of job openings that can't be filled because federal unemployment assistance makes it more advantageous for people to stay home than work.
All in the first 70 days.
The current president is a disaster. Hold on, the next 4 years are going to be a rough ride.
All I'm saying is. You Biden supporters aren't posting very much about the great things he's doing.[/QUOTE]Great post and you did cover most of Biden screwups. We all knew that a weak president would enable Iran, North Korea, Russia and China but the socialists on this site ignore it like it isn't happening and only Trump supporters make it up. Just like for the past month several posts here identified the border crises which the socialists said wasn't real. Well today Biden officially called it a crises on all news stations. Not just Fox. I understand though why the losers on this site support a loser like Biden, BLM and Antifa. Most countries in the world already have lower taxes than the USA and they are already talking to the big corporations like ApplE and Coke to move business overseas like in the Obama era. It took Trump 2 years to get the big corporate money invested in USA and Biden will wipe it out in his first 100 days. I know the socialists here will say good ridence to US investment and jobs because they can make more on unemployment. With Biden is going to skyrocket like never before. So I ask who is going to pay for it?
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2552001]Texas has one (1) DMV per county. Some counties are so big that someone could live 2 hours from a DMV. If you don't drive, you'd need to have a friend drive you and waste at least half-a-day. Plus the wear-and-tear on that person's vehicle. Yep, easy.[/QUOTE]Yes it is easy. One DMV per county is plenty. Most people already have a drivers license and can renew by mail so it is very easy to get a license. You said that a person would lose half a day at work to get a license but that makes no sense because you can't get a job without showing an ID. You can't cash your paycheck if you don't have an ID. So I guess you are talking about illegals who don't have a job or don't go to the bank but they are on some sort of government assistance and you want these people to vote. Admit it.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2552123]Pipeline jobs lost.
Wall construction jobs lost.
1. 9 trillion in stimulus that funds the administration's pet projects and only paid a fraction to the people.
29 trillion in debt with a 4. 8 trillion projected 2021 deficit before the 2 trillion dollar stimulus proposed today for the new green deal. [/QUOTE]Oil pipelines and bigot wall construction seem to be dead-end industries declining rapidly. Won't most new cars be electric soon?
1.9 trillion plus 4.8 and 2 off the 29 prior trillion equals 37.7 trillion dollars.
That the fed will print in the next one to ten years because congress won't pay it off with taxes it collects.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2552123]...Price of steel up 145%, lumber 126%, wheat up 25%, ... [/QUOTE]That's because you are posting lies and disinformation. As an example, let's take any of these commodities. Let's say steel. There are all kinds of different steel products, but like all commodities (except maybe rubber gloves), they got crushed by Covid down to absurd lows a year ago and have been on a steady rise since then. Look at steel futures -- they're flat. These are world commodiities. The price of rebar, cold rolled steel, #1 scrap have exactly nothing to do with Trump or Biden. Okay, Trump put some stupid tariffs on imported steel -- but Biden is keeping those same stupid tariffs! American manufacturers hate the tariffs. Real Republicans used to hate tariffis. So what are you even saying about steel? Pick a position. Keep the Trump tariffs? Get rid of them? You are simply making useless noise.
Yeah, so wheat is up from maybe $4/ bushel in 2016, now it's trading around $6; however, the US is a huge wheat exporter -- the farmers were getting crushed at $4 and they're still being crushed -- it's still too low for them, and it has about a zero effect on the cost of your beer or bread. Same for corn and soybeans. We export this stuff. Higher prices are good for farmers and good for the US.
Oil futures are trending up but's that's because of anticipation of increased demand -- and has fuck all to do with the cancellation of the XL pipeline or whatever you think has caused it. Again, look at oil futures. If you want to show some conviction, put your money where your mouth is and go long on oil.
Your "arguments" are not even internally consistent. Simply useless, uninformed noise.