Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=House007]4. I assume there are no more possibilities in PP to find decent streetwalkers, but if yes, where would one start looking?[/QUOTE]
I don't know what it is worth because I didn't try but there are now streewalkers at the foot of the PP monument itself. I was told it is a new phenomenon because of the recent crackdown. The girls are now going out from the bars and into public places, mengling with the general public. For that matter you may try other publics places too. Late at night I was also offered BJ in dark places of the river front by two girls on a motorbike. I guess that's kind of the mood in PP now.

[QUOTE=Denom]I don't know what it is worth because I didn't try but there are now streewalkers at the foot of the PP monument itself. I was told it is a new phenomenon because of the recent crackdown. The girls are now going out from the bars and into public places, mengling with the general public. For that matter you may try other publics places too. Late at night I was also offered BJ in dark places of the river front by two girls on a motorbike. I guess that's kind of the mood in PP now.[/QUOTE]

PP monument? Do you mean the Independence Monument on Norodom?

Well, I think I would rather stay away from BJ out in the open. Guess I miss Beach Road in Pattaya, where you can take them home for 500 Baht for a nice session on yr turf and by yr rules ...

[QUOTE=Denom]I don't know what it is worth because I didn't try but there are now streewalkers at the foot of the PP monument itself..[/QUOTE]


Not just there but all along st 154 I use to see about 8-10 SW hangout along there and off the side streets of 154, but the downside is that most will not be seen until late at nite when the streets are mainly deserted (except for the SW).

Shark

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I seem to be at odds with most of the recent posters here regarding my enjoyment of Phnom Penh. I found the city an excellent place in which to eat.

GE[/QUOTE]


Not really at odds but as pointed out before by others it's all according to prices. I know the places you mentioned and indeed tried a few myself of the places you went amd it was comparable to many other places for the same price range in other asian countries, but for Cambodia these places/prices are consider on the higher end. Going to more Western eatery will always result in higher Western prices. Some local places also have good standards but prices are much lower and some have much better food, but downside is not all good local places have English (or even French) menu--IMO

Shark

There's one Thai place on St 130 within a block or 2 of the riverfront, can't remember the name. Seemed to be a step up. The Chiang Mai place on the river front is cheaper but not great. Name Chiang Mai but not any Chiang Mai food on the menu that I could find. Very generic and not-very-authentic Thai food at that place, from what I tried.

btw I tried to go to the other Thai restaurant and was really looking forward to having the kontoke(sp), but they told me that even tho it was on the menu, they weren't serving it, so I cut and ran.

Whats price range of Marmite? Will try next time there.

[QUOTE=House007]PP monument? Do you mean the Independence Monument on Norodom?

Well, I think I would rather stay away from BJ out in the open. Guess I miss Beach Road in Pattaya, where you can take them home for 500 Baht for a nice session on yr turf and by yr rules ...[/QUOTE]

OK - I checked on the map and it's exactly called "Wat Phnom". I was there day time and saw several girls hanging around which my guide said were pickup girls. It was fairly obvious anyway. I was on the motorbike and didn't find it worth stepping down from it to take a closer look so can't really judge the quality.

Nothing of course beats Pattaya, especially after the crackdown on the best PP specialties.

As for food specialties, I guess they still have the "happy pizza", which I never tried but read a lot about.

be informed that last tuesday may 18, 2010, the prime minister of cambodia, h. e. samdech hun sen, in a speech to the national police, said, i quote: "increase their efforts to eradicate vice."

i wonder what is going to happen in the next weeks, if anything of interest i will keep the board posted.

the issue of streetwalkers, well. a few days ago the what phnom area was deserted, in the side streets were some hookers hiding behind trees in complete darkness, as a tourist you would never find them. anyway, what do you want them for? no quality at all, many are even homeless, so.

but i guess all will be over soon here in cambodia. anybody who tought the bottom of the vice crackdown was reach has been severely mistaken, although there is not much left to eradicate anymore, yet the big man himself thinks there is.

I'll be in PP the end of this week and am looking for some upscale fun, with cost not being the main concern. Can anyone suggest places, and perhaps even a knowledgeable driver? Trying to avoid risks and wasting time.

Cheers.

for anyone whose interested there's a very good thai restaurant called setsara on st. 278. its a bit out of the way in the ngo quarter but they delivery (pick up a copy of that delivery service booklet, i think its called door 2 door).

i love thai food but because i spend six months of the year in thailand i normally foresake it when i'm in pp choosing to eat chinese food instead. there are some excellent chinese places along monivong and my personal favourite is sam do which is on the street (i forget the no) which runs up from about the mid-point of the old market to monivong. its on the left hand side as you walk up, virtually the last building before monivong (there's a funky cafe on the corner). and while you're in the area you might want to check out the hair salons on the same side of the street some of which are full of girls who are presumaably there for more than the occassional perm and set. i think you have to start off asking for a massage and venture forth from there. i have no info about pricing, but good luck if anyone goes for it!

i came across a decent indonesian restuarant last time i was in pp, at the bottom of street 178, one block back from the river, near le wok. its not exactaly salubrious but the menu is in riel and they charge 6000 for nasi gorang. which was a bit dry. but i juiced it up with the peanut sauce from the chicken sati (8000 riel). check it out.

the french restaurant le marmite (mentioned in other posts) is one of my old time favourites. i'm not a big steak eater but if i want a steak i go there. the filet is delicious and the place has a very authentic french feel to it and isn't ott. reasonable prices too, though i'd avoid friday aand saturday evenings when you seem to geet a lot of ngos and the low level diplomatic set with their families. which just isn't my scene.

its really come to something when we''re discussing food rather than shangging in pp. lets all hope things return to normal one day son. who knows, when the powers that be realize that pp has nothing to offer respectable tourists and the dollars dry up, things might just change. the problem is the powers are hungry for those aid/donation dollars and the countires that hand out the cash are uncomfortable with the sex trade in pp. the weird thing is i very rarely hear about initiatives to provide jobs for those made jobless by the 'crackdown'. its like the ngos who raid the brothels and arrest the westerner inside for having undeage sex (which i do not approve of) yet leave the **** girl in the brothel. what sort of lunacy is that?

[quote=camboblowshooter]be informed that last tuesday may 18, 2010, the prime minister of cambodia, h. e. samdech hun sen, in a speech to the national police, said, i quote: "increase their efforts to eradicate vice."

i wonder what is going to happen in the next weeks, if anything of interest i will keep the board posted.

the issue of streetwalkers, well. a few days ago the what phnom area was deserted, in the side streets were some hookers hiding behind trees in complete darkness, as a tourist you would never find them. anyway, what do you want them for? no quality at all, many are even homeless, so.

but i guess all will be over soon here in cambodia. anybody who tought the bottom of the vice crackdown was reach has been severely mistaken, although there is not much left to eradicate anymore, yet the big man himself thinks there is.[/quote]
i wouldn't be surprised if the hookers in wat phnom were of low quality, but when i was there, there were quite a few of them at the foot of the hill itself, not on the side streets.

my guide kept telling me that the crackdown resulted from a speech hun sen made on television. has he now made another one? then indeed worst is to come. i wonder what will be left standing after this rage of pseudo-righteousness.

[QUOTE=Mercboy]I'll be in PP the end of this week and am looking for some upscale fun, with cost not being the main concern. Can anyone suggest places, and perhaps even a knowledgeable driver? Trying to avoid risks and wasting time.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]


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There have been hookers around Wat Phnom for 10 years it is nothing new. These are some of the roughest hookers in PP. This is where a lot of ladyboys hang out at night plying there trade. It is a very dangerous place to be at night if you are on your own and on foot. I am very careful even when driving a big moto around there at night would never go on my small moto late at night.

[QUOTE=Shadow6491]There have been hookers around Wat Phnom for 10 years it is nothing new. These are some of the roughest hookers in PP. This is where a lot of ladyboys hang out at night plying there trade. It is a very dangerous place to be at night if you are on your own and on foot. I am very careful even when driving a big moto around there at night would never go on my small moto late at night.[/QUOTE]


I've actually been around the Wat area at nite to the few local bars in this area on my rental moto but only because I know my final destination. I too would exercise caution if unaware of this neighborhood as it is a little seedy.

Saying it's a little seedy is like saying the pope is a little GERMAN

Bounced around the bars last night, first night out in a while.

Went to candy and played the tourist for a while then spotted two lovely girls behind the bar compared to the dross with me.

Tina from battambong was quite keen and very beautiful but we didn't get down to brass tacks.

Went on to the black cat, mr kims bar on the corner near the flamingo. Me and mr kim nearly went halves in that one over two years ago, it was 18K.

Wish that I had of taken the plunge, would have been a good move in retrospect.

Some very nice girls there, one 27 year old that they claimed was original-bullshit of course.

Moved on to Shanghai, good last week, terrible last night-girls not intererested.

Last stop-martinis.

Not too bad, a few nice girls but nothing like the old days.

Could have taken a pair of viets, but they wernt that inspiring.

RIP phnom penh.