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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3043064]This suggests inefficiency in execution, whether due to poor infrastructure, weak branding, or administrative hurdles".
[/QUOTE]Let's not forget the elephant in the room: how much of the $23 Billion actual got spent on improvements?

One of the biggest problems is that other areas are improving while PH is standing still or even getting worse. That's why the gaps are growing.

I still enjoy the PH and there is something for everyone but many other countries are offering more while costing less and being easier to get to.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043136]Let's not forget the elephant in the room: how much of the $23 Billion actual got spent on improvements?

One of the biggest problems is that other areas are improving while PH is standing still or even getting worse. That's why the gaps are growing.

I still enjoy the PH and there is something for everyone but many other countries are offering more while costing less and being easier to get to..[/QUOTE]Very true. Actual funds never make it to the intended purpose. The economy and citizens suffer again.

I just returned from 2 months in TH, literarily, like 2 hours ago, and as always, even after more than 2 decades of getting (or not getting) used to PH, is a shock. It's dirty, expensive, and complicated, the food sucks, traffic is hellish but the girls are hot, and by tomorrow everything will seem normal.

And that's the mongerer's perspective, unfortunately the bulk of travelers will get scared of all that and probably spread the word and also never return. That's good for us and should stay that way.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043151]I just returned from 2 months in TH, literarily, like 2 hours ago, and as always, even after more than 2 decades of getting (or not getting) used to PH, is a shock. It's dirty, expensive, and complicated, the food sucks, traffic is hellish but the girls are hot, and by tomorrow everything will seem normal.

And that's the mongerer's perspective, unfortunately the bulk of travelers will get scared of all that and probably spread the word and also never return. That's good for us and should stay that way.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. After a few hours it is like back in the saddle again. I have had some beautiful 18-20 year olds with GFE that is hard to match anywhere.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043007]The answer is simple, and I don't know why everybody is pointing in other directions, more expensive, time consuming, and actually dangerous for a newbie, especially under time restrictions: go to AC, stay in Royal Amsterdam, just step outside and they will fuck you, no need to know or do nothing, just have cash. Do other places in your next trip, after you're accustomed to the place.

Also I'm wondering why all the newbies have Cebu in mind? Manila has the most options, not the cheapest or easiest compared with AC, but Cebu?

It must be something they all see on Tiktok or some other bullshit like that.

Please tell me about it, I'm not joking I want to know.[/QUOTE]Probably because I heard that Cebu is very good for online meetup, as I said I am not interested in bars but more looking for FL or wannabe FL, I got very interested looking at goferring reports and wanted to do the same, but tell me if I you think I am wrong I won't take of personal.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043007]The answer is simple, and I don't know why everybody is pointing in other directions, more expensive, time consuming, and actually dangerous for a newbie, especially under time restrictions: go to AC, stay in Royal Amsterdam, just step outside and they will fuck you, no need to know or do nothing, just have cash. Do other places in your next trip, after you're accustomed to the place.

Also I'm wondering why all the newbies have Cebu in mind? Manila has the most options, not the cheapest or easiest compared with AC, but Cebu?

It must be something they all see on Tiktok or some other bullshit like that.

Please tell me about it, I'm not joking I want to know.[/QUOTE]Because I heard Cebu is the place with most online action, I am not interested in bars and more on finding girls through PL etc, and maybe start building some contacts for future longer trips, but maybe I heard wrong hope you can enlighten me more on The situation. I got one girl in Manila I will.

Meet which I know for 3 years but for the rest I am open to suggestions.

Traffic in Manila, objectively, in a picture. From FB user ScienceKonek.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3043383]Traffic in Manila, objectively, in a picture. From FB user ScienceKonek.[/QUOTE]And that's why the first thing one should do at manila is to activate a bike taxi app like Angkas. No cabs. Cuts the travel time by half.

[QUOTE=Charlies4;3043386]And that's why the first thing one should do at manila is to activate a bike taxi app like Angkas. No cabs. Cuts the travel time by half.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and I do. But there are times when a bike can't be used (hard rain or wind, or if you are with your girl). Even on a bike it can take you 20 minutes to travel the 1 mile from Burgos to the Ayala area when traffic is tight (and 30 minutes in a car). Also some of our gents are just too large to fit on the back of a 125 CC bike.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3043395]Agreed, and I do. But there are times when a bike can't be used (hard rain or wind, or if you are with your girl). Even on a bike it can take you 20 minutes to travel the 1 mile from Burgos to the Ayala area when traffic is tight (and 30 minutes in a car). Also some of our gents are just too large to fit on the back of a 125 CC bike.[/QUOTE]In Manila, I typically stay in Greenbelt so just walk everywhere during the day and get a Grab in the evenings. By that time peak hour traffic has died down.

I'd agree that trying to travel during the wrong time of the day can take hours. And I do mean multiple hours.

G.

[QUOTE=Youonme;3043330]Because I heard Cebu is the place with most online action, I am not interested in bars and more on finding girls through PL etc, and maybe start building some contacts for future longer trips, but maybe I heard wrong hope you can enlighten me more on The situation. I got one girl in Manila I will.

Meet which I know for 3 years but for the rest I am open to suggestions.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with anything you choose to do, I was just curious why Cebu? Now I know, is because of the reports you read here.

Lots of guys pick Cebu when stepping in PH for the first time, and that's why I was wondering about the motive, because is not the easiest mongering destination in PH, being mostly geared into collecting money online, and delivering virtual entertainment which can be accessed from anywhere, not necessarily by being there.

Hi Guys, hope everyone is well.

As many would know, I left PL alone for a long time because I couldn't justify spending so much time online when I could hit the ground running with my usual FL tactics.

However, it became valuable in typically non mongering areas like Boracay and the like. I also scored a stunner in Manila who performs like a mechanical bull in the sack and I'm taking her to an island at the top of Cebu on an upcoming trip for 3 k per day plus meals.

The issue is, that I have a week in Cebu before I hook up with her and I want to play around before the hook-up. I blocked her on PL as we chat on WhatsApp, but I've discovered she has multiple accounts on PL and she can see what I'm up to. She said her previous PL profile was hacked and started a new one just to message me as I logged back in today.

Yes, the Pina's are terrible liars and I'm just thinking about leaving the profile out there for her to see. Obviously, she's always on the hunt so what's to stop me?

Otherwise, is there an alternative you can suggest to PL that gets similar results?

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3043530]Hi Guys, hope everyone is well.

As many would know, I left PL alone for a long time because I couldn't justify spending so much time online when I could hit the ground running with my usual FL tactics.

However, it became valuable in typically non mongering areas like Boracay and the like. I also scored a stunner in Manila who performs like a mechanical bull in the sack and I'm taking her to an island at the top of Cebu on an upcoming trip for 3 k per day plus meals.

The issue is, that I have a week in Cebu before I hook up with her and I want to play around before the hook-up. I blocked her on PL as we chat on WhatsApp, but I've discovered she has multiple accounts on PL and she can see what I'm up to. She said her previous PL profile was hacked and started a new one just to message me as I logged back in today.

Yes, the Pina's are terrible liars and I'm just thinking about leaving the profile out there for her to see. Obviously, she's always on the hunt so what's to stop me?

Otherwise, is there an alternative you can suggest to PL that gets similar results?

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]DIA, about the same.
Where are you going, Malapascua, or Bantayan?

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3043530]

Otherwise, is there an alternative you can suggest to PL that gets similar results?

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Filipino Cupid.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043532]DIA, about the same.
Where are you going, Malapascua, or Bantayan?[/QUOTE]Phil,

Watch the weather. No need to panic but if the winds blow up, bancas get cancelled and you can be trapped on Malapascua. It's a nice place but you quickly run out of things to do when locked down for a week.

I guess you could make the most of the 3 k a day. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3043530]I also scored a stunner in Manila who performs like a mechanical bull in the sack and I'm taking her to an island at the top of Cebu on an upcoming trip for 3 k per day plus meals.

The issue is, that I have a week in Cebu before I hook up with her and I want to play around before the hook-up. I blocked her on PL as we chat on WhatsApp, but I've discovered she has multiple accounts on PL and she can see what I'm up to. [/QUOTE]I do not get it. If you are paying this chick, why would you or her care what the other is up to? I do not give a shit what chicks I am not paying are up to. Chicks I am paying, it would not even cross my mind.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043570]Phil,

Watch the weather. No need to panic but if the winds blow up, bancas get cancelled and you can be trapped on Malapascua. It's a nice place but you quickly run out of things to do when locked down for a week.

I guess you could make the most of the 3 k a day. 😁.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Not me, PJ is going. I know all about boats, I'm on an small Island, also sometimes if the weather is bad in Cebu the coast guard cancel all boats all around the province for no reason.
When I used to rent the company I was doing it for 2k/day, 10k/week or 20k/month

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043619]Not me, PJ is going. I know all about boats, I'm on an small Island, also sometimes if the weather is bad in Cebu the coast guard cancel all boats all around the province for no reason.
When I used to rent the company I was doing it for 2k/day, 10k/week or 20k/month[/QUOTE]Exactly. That's the reason I've never been to Siargao. I got to Surigao, the wind blew up and there was no way I wanted to be trapped there. I've also been trapped in Malapascua and Sabang a couple of times too.

I've never done monthly but 10 k a week was also my weekly rate.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043630]Exactly. That's the reason I've never been to Siargao. I got to Surigao, the wind blew up and there was no way I wanted to be trapped there. I've also been trapped in Malapascua and Sabang a couple of times too.

I've never done monthly but 10 k a week was also my weekly rate.[/QUOTE]Did monthly a few times, first was a teacher from Biliran, she didn't want no money, but upon interrogation about her reluctance to travel with me despite her desire of seeing places she explained to me that her income that was about 15 k / monthy was vital for her family and if she goes they will be deprived of that and cannot function, so I gave her 20 k, and everything went well while exploring Leyte with her in tow. Another was a fresh homeless kick boxer that I helped get a fresh start, then she accompanied me for a few weeks in Luzon and AC, and others, that don't come to mind now.

P.S. I posted this already, then I don't know what happened to it, so there it is again. Just in case you're seeing duplicates.

We interrupt this extended LT lovefest to talk about: Philippine Airlines (whom I have bashed before). Apparently they have taken delivery of their first A350 aircraft from Airbus a few days ago. A week ago I started getting these (see pics) adverts or mentions about the new aircraft coming to Manila. Everyday in my feed was an increasing number of them. Today I got 10 like you see in the pics in just 5 minutes of scrolling. That's a new one every 30 seconds. Ten news stories about the new plane, from PAL and different sources (if you can call any of them besides PAL a source).

Is anyone else getting these?

Hi,

I know that Zamboanga is a pretty dangerous city.

But since there is no tourism I think that fucking some beautiful girl is very easy, much easier than in other Philippine cities.

Isn't that so?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043727]Hi,
I know that Zamboanga is a pretty dangerous city.
But since there is no tourism I think that fucking some beautiful girl is very easy, much easier than in other Philippine cities.
Isn't that so?[/QUOTE]I think the guys who would be able to tell us, never came back. If you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043727]I know that Zamboanga is a pretty dangerous city.

But since there is no tourism I think that fucking some beautiful girl is very easy, much easier than in other Philippine cities.[/QUOTE]Sure, buy the ticket and take the ride! Better get that easy fuck in fast as the last thing you are likely to hear is some guy screaming something that sounds like "Aloha Snackbar". Enjoy, AR.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3043812]Sure, buy the ticket and take the ride! Better get that easy fuck in fast as the last thing you are likely to hear is some guy screaming something that sounds like "Aloha Snackbar". Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3043799]I think the guys who would be able to tell us, never came back. If you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]Dang. I was about to say something snarky. But dang. . .

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043727]Hi,

I know that Zamboanga is a pretty dangerous city.

But since there is no tourism I think that fucking some beautiful girl is very easy, much easier than in other Philippine cities.

Isn't that so?[/QUOTE]In about 99% of the PH is no tourism.

Also take any place that's considered visited by tourists, and you'll see that the same percentage applies to the city as a whole, therefore no need to venture to a place where they chop off your head, and may also put salt on the wound, it's enough to just walk outside the "safe" zone and you may only get robbed or stabbed while looking for untouched gems.

Take AC for example, everybody knows Red St and Perimeter, but the city is vast, how many guys did venture even to relatively close and safe neighborhoods like Camachiles, Dau, Mountaiview, Clark, etc? Or just past the expensive Kandi Towers at the end of Narciso. Maybe some guys that lived there, very few, and they wouldn't be considered tourists by any means.

The only place in the world where girls where throwing themselves at foreigners and I saw it with my own eyes, was Manaus in BR, and it was 30 years ago, probably it changed by now also.

There are so many millions of girls in the PH, that it's impossible not to find what you're looking for without going to extremes. Getting them into your bed it's a different story and it requires to use you mojo if you don't take the easy and affordable PP route.

Merry Christmas Everybody!

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3043812]Sure, buy the ticket and take the ride! Better get that easy fuck in fast as the last thing you are likely to hear is some guy screaming something that sounds like "Aloha Snackbar". Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]Jejejee, you are right, but I'm used. Jejeje.

I inform you that I have been to Venezuela 5 times and always alone.

All the girls look down when they walk, they look at the ground where they walk because are afraid of meeting evil glances.

Venezuela is a very dangerous country. I think it is the most dangerous in the world together with Sudan, but it is a wonderful country.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043727]Hi,

I know that Zamboanga is a pretty dangerous city.

But since there is no tourism I think that fucking some beautiful girl is very easy, much easier than in other Philippine cities.

Isn't that so?[/QUOTE]Welcome to Joe's class on Mindanao Island Geography 101.

Go to Google Maps, type in "Mindanao". Look for Iligan City, Digos City, and General Santos City. Draw an imaginary line between the three.

In general, the area east of the line has comparatively few Muslims and society there is more liberal. The area west of the line has comparatively more Muslims and society is much less liberal.

I'm not big on the online game, so my thoughts are purely on the mechanics of pointing and shooting in person.

As a long-time resident of Northeastern Mindanao, if you're looking to score with chicks in random settings, shopping malls represent the most fertile targets. Unfortunately, I'm convinced there's now a bit of "foreigner fatigue" in the larger cities, as the number of Western visitors and residents has dramatically grown in Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, and Davao Cities in the past decade.

If you're an old-school pick-and-choose kind of in-person flirty guy, your best chances of success are in the malls located in second-tier cities in eastern Mindanao.

Why bypass Zamboanga? Here's one reason why, from late 2024. Note: Authorities have not yet found the body.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Elliot_Eastman[/URL]

Speculation is it was a girl's former Muslim partner and his buddies that did him in.

So please please please, don't venture west of Joe's imaginary line. Instead, fly to either Davao, Butuan, or Surigao cities and hop on a bus. Make the rounds of these Mindanao cities, where foreigners are not yet numerous.

Tandag. Bislig. Gingoog. Cabadbaran. Bayugan. San Francisco (Agusan del Sur). Tagum. There's a circular highway route that connects them all.

Yes, Tagum City is a large city with four malls. But I go there quite often and don't notice nearly as many foreign faces as I do in other large Mindanao city malls.

Each city listed has relatively newer Gaisano Malls. I own a car, so I quite often travel through and often stop at the malls to stretch my legs. I won't classify them as fertile hunting grounds, but it's rare that at least one salesgirl won't initiate a conversation.

Don't waste your time in Surigao City. It's the main port for sea travel to Siargao Island, the new hip beach playground for younger Western visitors. An old guy won't stand a good chance there.

Zamboanga City? Don't be a fool.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043879]Unfortunately, I'm convinced there's now a bit of "foreigner fatigue" in the larger cities, as the number of Western visitors and residents has dramatically grown in Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, and Davao Cities in the past decade.

Instead, fly to either Davao, Butuan, or Surigao cities and hop on a bus. Make the rounds of these Mindanao cities, where foreigners are not yet numerous.

Tandag. Bislig. Gingoog. Cabadbaran. Bayugan. San Francisco (Agusan del Sur). Tagum. There's a circular highway route that connects them all.

Don't waste your time in Surigao City. It's the main port for sea travel to Siargao Island, the new hip beach playground for younger Western visitors. An old guy won't stand a good chance there.

Zamboanga City? Don't be a fool.[/QUOTE]Not only is there foreigner fatigue where pretty girls become tired of old foreigners hitting on them everytime they set foot in the mall, girls also have easier and higher paying options online. Find a cute 19 yo student and she will be receiving lunch money from numerous simps thousands of miles away, most of whom she will likely never even have to meet. This is a lot more lucrative than actually having to fuck a guy.

Said cities also have numerous second tier colleges. We're not talking Harvard but Joe's bus ride has the advantage of presenting lots of eye candy as hundreds of girls hop on and off going to and from tourism school.

True, there's not a lot to see in Surigao City. It's also a college town full of cute girls but the main campus is for Criminology. Potential police etc may not be the girls you want to pump, dump and leave heart broken. Rumour has it that hot college babes may be difficult to score but there are a couple of girls who, while less pretty, compensate by having filthy minds and play very very well together. But I wouldn't know anything about that. 😉.

A question that was posed to me before was why go to the deepest darkest corners when there is so much pussy lying in plain sight. With respect, if you can't get laid in the regular areas, you're not doing it right or maybe even the Philippines is not the place for you.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043879]Welcome to Joe's class on Mindanao Island Geography 101.[/QUOTE]Joe, what's the first rule of Mindanao Fight Club?

Ssshhhhh. 🤫.

Remember there are no pretty girls anywhere in Mindanao and the whole island is a dangerous war zone. 😉.

Enjoy. G. 👍.

Many here talk about mall hunting. Maybe I've never had luck because I don't take the plunge. I don't have the nerve to stop a girl walking down the aisles to do her shopping. Of course, talking to shop assistants is much much easier for me. But then they all have jobs and it's not possible to have them stay in my apartment for a few days. I'm looking for this!

Yes, I have already been to Gagayan de Oro, Butuan, Surigao and Siargao island. But these are all small cities, except Gagayan de Oro which is the largest city after Davao. It has around 600 thousand inhabitants. But I believe that Davao can give much, much more than CDO. The last times I went to Mindanao I had a GF from Leyte island, so I always traveled with her and didn't personally experience the situation in each place. So I don't know how Mindanao has developed in recent years. I'm afraid it developed a little badly. In fact I know that if you send money for transport to a girl who lives 50-100 km from you, in 80% of cases she steals your money and doesn't come. At least this is the situation on Leyte island. I don't know about Davao. As you mentioned, Davao doesn't have many tourists, so I hope it hasn't gotten much worse in recent years. Duterte had done a good job, even if he is now having a very bad time.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043884]A question that was posed to me before was why go to the deepest darkest corners when there is so much pussy lying in plain sight. With respect, if you can't get laid in the regular areas, you're not doing it right or maybe even the Philippines is not the place for you.[/QUOTE]Maybe the Philippines doesn't behave like other countries in the world. Usually where there is less tourism, the girls are more interested in being with you. This is a rule, although not a mathematical one. I believe that girls in Zamboanga chat much less than their cousins in the rest of the Philippines because foreigners are not interested in going. So perhaps contacting them online could be easier and therefore easier to meet them too. Those who know the Philippines well know how difficult it is to get a regular girl into bed on the first meeting.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043884]

A question that was posed to me before was why go to the deepest darkest corners when there is so much pussy lying in plain sight. With respect, if you can't get laid in the regular areas, you're not doing it right or maybe even the Philippines is not the place for you.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Joe, just highlighting that this was directed to the OP, Jones Lover not you. He seems unsure of the lay of the land in Mindanao. However, I'm sure you don't need any directions to find girls locally. 😁.

Merry Christmas. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3043896]Joe, just highlighting that this was directed to the OP, Jones Lover not you. He seems unsure of the lay of the land in Mindanao. However, I'm sure you don't need any directions to find girls locally. 😁.

Merry Christmas. G.[/QUOTE]Oh no worries here. Yours and my methods and requirements differ, but we both seem to consistently seal our deals and end up winners. Yee hah!

I'm currently outside the Phils for a month-long holiday trip. The first two weeks of December brought a welcome change in Butuan City's streetwalkers near SJIT, as I consistently hit the girlie bars twice a week.

A few younger gals started appearing, dressing rather seductively in short shorts and mini dresses and moderately high and cute footwear. Stopped and chatted with a 19 year-old slim and slutty-looking cutie one night at 1 am, her price was P1,500. Told her I'd be back after stopping at 7-11 for condoms.

Returned 10 minutes later and saw my 25 year-old regular with the wonky teeth but a killer body and insatiable carnal appetite working another street corner. She also upgraded her wardrobe to seemingly compete with the youngsters. P1,000 for short-time and P200 at another 7-11 for snacks and refreshments before hitting the short time hotel.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3043905]Oh no worries here. Yours and my methods and requirements differ, but we both seem to consistently seal our deals and end up winners. Yee hah!

I'm currently outside the Phils for a month-long holiday trip. The first two weeks of December brought a welcome change in Butuan City's streetwalkers near SJIT, as I consistently hit the girlie bars twice a week.

[/QUOTE]You're starting to convince me that I should make a few more stops when heading north from Davao even if just to investigate some of the smaller towns you listed.

The girl in red actually lives near SJIT. That's where I always sent the Grab at least. Hopefully it was one of the boarding houses and not a street corner. 😁.

Enjoy your holiday away and the Christmas season.

G.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043890]Maybe the Philippines doesn't behave like other countries in the world. Usually where there is less tourism, the girls are more interested in being with you. This is a rule, although not a mathematical one. I believe that girls in Zamboanga chat much less than their cousins in the rest of the Philippines because foreigners are not interested in going. So perhaps contacting them online could be easier and therefore easier to meet them too. Those who know the Philippines well know how difficult it is to get a regular girl into bed on the first meeting.[/QUOTE]If you're sizing up a place for sexual conquests, it sure helps to have some surefire backup plans. Here in Butuan City, if the online scene isn't panning out, a horny tourist like yourself can try flirting at three malls with plenty of moderately open-minded Catholic girls. If malling fails, there are good-sized restobars with oodles of late-night groups of getting-drunker-by-the-hour ladies swilling from big bottles of Tanduay Select with an iced tea mixer.

If you're still striking out there, have a trike driver take you to the local past-midnight streetwalker area, or visit Butuan's two strip clubs and / or five small videokes with hostess girls available for barfining until closing time at 2 to 4 am.

Same story in Cagayan de Oro, Davao City, Surigao City, etc. Plenty of options.

Statistical gathering is rather tough in the Philippines. But attached is a Facebook screenshot of religion numbers which purportedly are from the census of 2020.

Roughly 40% of Zamboanga residents identify as belonging to the Muslim faith. That statistic severely limits the playing field.

Those of us who have lived here for years vividly remember the Marawi City attack and siege in 2017 as well as the personal safety shit-shows that have occurred on nearby Basilian and Sulu Islands.

That's enough to dissuade most guys from ever traveling to a Filipino Muslim area to find chicks.

What this means is if your online plans in Zambo don't pan out and you're faced with the prospect of sleeping alone, you probably aren't left with many available fast-acting options. I'm guessing that there aren't any strip joints or streetwalker areas in such a Muslim-packed city, but I could be wrong.

Maybe you're okay with going to sleep with a raging libido and full sacks of jizz after having your hopes cruelly dashed, but not me.

IMO, Davao City is a greatly underrated city for finding companionship.

Zamboanga? I eagerly await your reports which will hopefully prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3043888]Many here talk about mall hunting. Maybe I've never had luck because I don't take the plunge. I don't have the nerve to stop a girl walking down the aisles to do her shopping. Of course, talking to shop assistants is much much easier for me. But then they all have jobs and it's not possible to have them stay in my apartment for a few days. I'm looking for this!.[/QUOTE]Upon further thought, I understand your logic in going to far-flung areas to find a holiday girlfriend. But the WWW has made the world a smaller place, which has affected attitudes even in the world's isolated hamlets. Your plan was easily doable 15 years ago, but not as much today, for dozens of reasons.

I'm also of the belief that with each passing year, fewer and fewer Filipinas are willing to take a chance to cohabitate with an unfamiliar foreigner on a short-term basis as a fuck buddy without sizable financial benefits. Gifts won't cut it, they want some cash.

30 minutes ago, I finished chatting and talking online with a tipsy Filipina who lives in a small town near Butuan City that I know quite well both inside and outside the bedroom. In the room was a somewhat drunk close cousin, age 27. Let's call her Joyce. I'd visually rate her a 4 to 5, a somewhat blah looker with a simple but sweet personality.

No kids, no serious boyfriend, and works as a house cleaner. Perfect candidate as a week-long F-toy.

I asked Joyce if she would hypothetically be interested in JonesLover's arrangement. She asked if he was handsome. I replied she should assume he looks like me (he should be so lucky, haha). She then asked if he was looking for a wife, to which I replied he just wants a short-time deal for a week.

Joyce turned me (him) down. Then I asked if there was a daily monetary amount that might cause her to take the deal. After a significant pause, Joyce said maybe for P2,000 per day, paid daily, but they would have to stay at a location outside the local Butuan City area.

To satisfy my curiosity, here are two questions, pertaining to average-looking regular gals living in areas far outside Philippines' major metropolitan areas (not for professional or semi-pro sex workers):

JonesLover: What is the maximum amount of money you believe is reasonable to compensate a temporary live-in partner each day?

ISG Members: Either from personal experience or personal beliefs, how much money do you believe is a reasonable minimum daily offer for a holiday girlfriend?

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044001]

Statistical gathering is rather tough in the Philippines. But attached is a Facebook screenshot of religion numbers which purportedly are from the census of 2020.

Roughly 40% of Zamboanga residents identify as belonging to the Muslim faith. That statistic severely limits the playing field.

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Zamboanga? I eagerly await your reports which will hopefully prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044026]Upon further thought, I understand your logic in going to far-flung areas to find a holiday girlfriend. But the WWW has made the world a smaller place, which has affected attitudes even in the world's isolated hamlets. Your plan was easily doable 15 years ago, but not as much today, for dozens of reasons.

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ISG Members: Either from personal experience or personal beliefs, how much money do you believe is a reasonable minimum daily offer for a holiday girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Given all the hysteria, I'm surprised that Zamboanga is only 40/60. While I don't have a lot of experience with Philipina Muslims, experience elsewhere tells me that the location rather than religion and devoutness is the problem. Many Indonesian* girls and even crucifix wearing Catholic School girls (way back in my college days) can confirm that. There was a Mindanao girl who worked the bars in Sabang who was a real wild child but a sample size of one can't be generalised.

I agree that a real world, boots on the ground, report would be interesting and appreciated. There have been a few YouTube visitors who declared the area safe but that's not representative of our hobby.

I think the situation is actually worse in the provincial areas. If we take the two extremes: Manila has thousands of girls who are happy to meet foreign visitors who will splash the cash on nights out and taxi money in the morning while pretty Cabadbaran girls won't sit around waiting to share the one or two visitors a year who actually make it to town. A much better and reliable source for them is online sponsors who will pay for "load" without even seeing the girl let alone insist on fucking her. With the number of simps out there, it's not hard for a pretty girl to have several guys on the hook at the same time. Essentially money for nothing.

I've always recommend paying the equivalent of a ST a day for XLT. From me, that's 10 k a week. However, that's highly influenced on where you find the girl. A Manila bar girl is unlikely to go for that because she is use to receiving much more.

*Local knowledge and access is also a factor. I've been to many Indonesian towns that would burn a shop down for selling pork but there is always a bar or cat house hidden just outside of town. It would not surprise me at all to find that ZC actually has these places hidden away too. First impressions and plausible denial are very real.



Enjoy. G.

First of all I wanted to share with all of you who are not as horny as some think. Haahahah.

A horny man changes a girl a day. I would like to stay with a girl for 2 weeks.

Having said this, I can say that Goferring is right. Muslim girls in Indonesia often do tricks in bed that Catholic girls don't do. Then we also need to understand how many days of abstinence girls have before having sex.

Having said that, I think we also need to understand how much girls want to have fun at that particular moment.

I visited some places in the Philippines with my gfs and they were happy. One thing that surprised and annoyed me, however, is that most of them have stupid fixed points in their brains that are impossible to unhinge. I said "stupid" visits from the eyes of Westerners. I never refute their behavior and I respect them.

An example? But there are many.

Girls cover their faces in the photos they post on their social media profiles because they are afraid that men will masturbate while looking at their photos. They told me, I didn't invent it.

Then I understand that if we go to their country we have to start changing our habits.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044026]JonesLover: What is the maximum amount of money you believe is reasonable to compensate a temporary live-in partner each day?[/QUOTE]If I am with my GF in my apartment in full time for 2 weeks, I give her between 1000 and 1500 a day. But I buy her some gifts and I make her eat the most delicious things that she likes.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3044031]I've always recommend paying the equivalent of a ST a day for XLT. From me, that's 10 k a week. However, that's highly influenced on where you find the girl. A Manila bar girl is unlikely to go for that because she is use to receiving much more.[/QUOTE]Perfect. For city girls, the same as Go, our previous ST rate per day. For island (provincial) girls I give the LT rate to her per day (its cheaper than the city girl's ST).

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044154]If I am with my GF in my apartment in full time for 2 weeks, I give her between 1000 and 1500 a day. But I buy her some gifts and I make her eat the most delicious things that she likes.[/QUOTE]And perfect.

Caveat #1. Having agreed with both the fellas, I stopped traveling before covid with new girls (which is what JL wants, to meet with a fresh f*cklet and either travel with her or keep her for 2 weeks), as it runs the gammut from being fun, to her driving me crazy with her mouth or attitude. I only travel girls now to come from her location to meet with me for a few days, and do whatever TF I want, and I only travel gals whose personality I am already familiar with. When these girl come to me (bus, airplane), city girls get their ST rate per day while in the province, and province girls get their LT rate per day when in the city. You'd be amazed at how many province girls have never been an hour from their home city, have drudgingly boring lives (taking care of their kids, or nieces and nephews, or doing laundry for a neighbor), and are very happy to get on bus to come visit me in a nearby provincial city, or get on the bus with me and go do that. P1000/ day might be both a windfall, and exciting for her.

Caveat #2. Not only will pretty gogo girls not go with you for a ST rate per day. Oddly I run into province girls sometimes (who are new to me) who want outrageous large sums of money per night (ie, p10 k). They wildly inflate their self-worth (not knowing their self worth), and might refuse to drop that price. Strange, unusual, but it happens (dating site girls).

Language lesson in a picture. A comparison of English words, and their Indonesian and Filipino equivalents. And the similarity of the Indo / Phils equivalents.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044154]If I am with my GF in my apartment in full time for 2 weeks, I give her between 1000 and 1500 a day. But I buy her some gifts and I make her eat the most delicious things that she likes.[/QUOTE]Been with girls on luxury cruises, french, italian restaurants, nothing beats boxed chicken with rice or spaghetti with ketchup from Jolly Bee.

My fridge is stocked with italian salamis, hams, french cheeses (it took me a while to figure it out how to get them), do you think in almost 4 years together my GF or any of her Gfs that are constantly in our house was ever curious at least to taste any? NOPE.
I buy good quality meat, that I have to order in advance at the butcher, they do eat it if cooked simple without any spices, but their fav is pork belly with fat and skin, chopped in big chunks boiled in the magic sarap chemical brine, or fried. The list goes on and on, but I'll stop here.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3044198]Been with girls on luxury cruises, french, italian restaurants, nothing beats boxed chicken with rice or spaghetti with ketchup from Jolly Bee.

My fridge is stocked with italian salamis, hams, french cheeses (it took me a while to figure it out how to get them), do you think in almost 4 years together my GF or any of her Gfs that are constantly in our house was ever curious at least to taste any? NOPE.
I buy good quality meat, that I have to order in advance at the butcher, they do eat it if cooked simple without any spices, but their fav is pork belly with fat and skin, chopped in big chunks boiled in the magic sarap chemical brine, or fried. The list goes on and on, but I'll stop here.[/QUOTE]Plus French cheeses won't pay the bills for JLs girl.

The only reward she is interested in is cold hard cash.

G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3044185]

Caveat #2. Not only will pretty gogo girls not go with you for a ST rate per day.

Oddly I run into province girls sometimes (who are new to me) who want outrageous large sums of money per night (ie, p10 k). They wildly inflate their self-worth (not knowing their self worth), and might refuse to drop that price. Strange, unusual, but it happens (dating site girls).[/QUOTE]The pretty gogo girl also knows that she's going to be picking up fully priced LDs or even Barfines within minutes of entering the building. It makes no sense for her to accept cut price offers.

Welcome to the days of the internet. See my previous post about pretty provincial girls preferring to keep 8 sponsors on the hook vs actually meet the one visitor in town. Meeting JL would literally cost these girls money.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044026]

ISG Members: Either from personal experience or personal beliefs, how much money do you believe is a reasonable minimum daily offer for a holiday girlfriend?[/QUOTE]It all depends on the previous time I've spent with the girl.

Taking one away you've just met, can be tricky to judge, and risky, as you might get over each other after the first day or so. I'd expect to pay a premium here.

Generally, if you know the girl and have an idea of the FL long-time daily price paid prior, I generally offer a slightly lower daily rate but explaining that all accommodation and meals are on me (local food's generally cheap and a hotel room for two doesn't cost you anymore for the girl to stay with you).

So therefore, my general FL rate averages at 3 k per day.

I always say I'm going to reward them 'so much' per-day beforehand. If they don't like it (no one ever has) they don't have to come with me.

Play your cards right, with right girl, it can be very affordable with great rewards for all concerned.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3044201]Plus French cheeses won't pay the bills for JLs girl.

The only reward she is interested in is cold hard cash.

G.[/QUOTE]The cash is a total separate thing, who's here for that will get it. The fridge is just sitting there and gets ravaged regardless of fucking or just social visiting, but only shampoo flavored SML, Coca Cola, and mangoes are touched, the rest of the stuff is just looked at, in a way that resembles a goat looking at an alarm clock, no idea what it is, not interested in it, or in learning about it, and of course not capable of doing it.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3043439]Nothing wrong with anything you choose to do, I was just curious why Cebu? Now I know, is because of the reports you read here.

Lots of guys pick Cebu when stepping in PH for the first time, and that's why I was wondering about the motive, because is not the easiest mongering destination in PH, being mostly geared into collecting money online, and delivering virtual entertainment which can be accessed from anywhere, not necessarily by being there.[/QUOTE]Mostly I was thinking it's not as crowded as Manila, and the airport isn't as crazy as MNL.

Plus older reports say you just have to walk into a Cebu mall and you will be gang tackled by dozens of lovely ladies within seconds!

I've tried the Manila / Makati / BGC malls and so far haven't been tackled by anyone.

Also Boracay sounds nice to visit although it's the one place I haven't seen any monger mention at all.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3044308]The cash is a total separate thing, [/QUOTE]That was my point: JL shouldn't expect a discount because he's also providing niceties.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3044330]That was my point: JL shouldn't expect a discount because he's also providing niceties.[/QUOTE]What? But remember they are regular girls and not pro or semi-pro, si you give her what comes from your heart.

I have never thought about what they want, also because if they ask for money, I don't go with them. I'll tell you more: I don't like beautiful girls who look fake or dolls, I like normal girls and with them I behave in a normal way, highlighting our nice relationship.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3044329]Mostly I was thinking it's not as crowded as Manila, and the airport isn't as crazy as MNL.

Plus older reports say you just have to walk into a Cebu mall and you will be gang tackled by dozens of lovely ladies within seconds!

I've tried the Manila / Makati / BGC malls and so far haven't been tackled by anyone.

Also Boracay sounds nice to visit although it's the one place I haven't seen any monger mention at all.[/QUOTE]Hi Tom,

I can't remember reading about guys being gang tackled in Cebu malls.

I've been approached numerous times in Manila outside Robinsons, but the quality wasn't great.

Chatting to shop assistants in Tagalog anywhere in the Phils has generally been a great help to break the ice and start a convo. I've scored a few decent ones this way. Biggest problem is you usually have to wait until they finish their shift late at night. Great to catch up with them on their day off though.

Don't discount Boracay. Yes, a very nice spot though probably over-rated, but with the help of Pina, I've done quite well there despite it not being a typical mongering spot.

Someone's got to bed the tourists.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3044400]I can't remember reading about guys being gang tackled in Cebu malls.

I've been approached numerous times in Manila outside Robinsons, but the quality wasn't great.

Chatting to shop assistants in Tagalog anywhere in the Phils has generally been a great help to break the ice and start a convo. I've scored a few decent ones this way. Biggest problem is you usually have to wait until they finish their shift late at night. Great to catch up with them on their day off though.

Don't discount Boracay. Yes, a very nice spot though probably over-rated, but with the help of Pina, I've done quite well there despite it not being a typical mongering spot.

Someone's got to bed the tourists.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you've got game if you can speak halfway decently. So far I only know some of the most basic greetings and phrases. The girls do speak English, some of them quite well, however I've noticed most prefer tagalog. Many women I see at the malls are super cute. And they're quite shy. I bet anything to make them feel comfortable helps.

In Manila I've been approached the most times by FL's in hotel lobbies and bars. And the quality has been poor.

I'll eventually check out Cebu and also Boracay. I like youtube videos, mostly those travel guides that make those areas sound so nice. Although none of them typically touch on the subject of this website, they're still pretty good when it comes to basic travel info.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3044329]Plus older reports say you just have to walk into a Cebu mall and you will be gang tackled by dozens of lovely ladies within seconds!

I've tried the Manila / Makati / BGC malls and so far haven't been tackled by anyone.[/QUOTE]Would not hold your breath on any of that being tackled biz. Older reports from Phils especially are worth what you pay for them (including my own). Everything changes.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044348]What? But remember they are regular girls and not pro or semi-pro, si you give her what comes from your heart.

I have never thought about what they want, also because if they ask for money, I don't go with them. I'll tell you more: I don't like beautiful girls who look fake or dolls, I like normal girls and with them I behave in a normal way, highlighting our nice relationship.[/QUOTE]Go back and you'll find that several of us have posted about "free" hookups.

Good luck and enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3044471]Would not hold your breath on any of that being tackled biz. Older reports from Phils especially are worth what you pay for them (including my own). Everything changes.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'm getting a feel for it. It's an actual GF experience if anything. More of a shy sweetness vibe I guess.

I can spot tourists a mile away, I'm sure the girls can too. Maybe there's some saturation to a certain point, I dunno.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3044471]Would not hold your breath on any of that being tackled biz. Older reports from Phils especially are worth what you pay for them (including my own). Everything changes.[/QUOTE]Cebu malls in the foreigner bubbles are a great place to meet girls who we first contact elsewhere: online, at work, FB etc. However, they never were full of hot pretties waiting to find a 70 yo monger. Any girls hanging around were typically well past their prime. Now it's worse as regular girls walking around have tried of being hit on when they are just there to window shop or buy a dress. Many girls now actively avoid Ayala etc for this very reason.

Enjoy. G.

'Nuther tourism item in my feed.

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[QUOTE=Goferring;3044476]Cebu malls in the foreigner bubbles are a great place to meet girls who we first contact elsewhere: online, at work, FB etc. However, they never were full of hot pretties waiting to find a 70 yo monger. Any girls hanging around were typically well past their prime. Now it's worse as regular girls walking around have tried of being hit on when they are just there to window shop or buy a dress. Many girls now actively avoid Ayala etc for this very reason.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]A few months ago I spent three days in Cebu before jetting off to Bali. My nights were occupied with an "old friend", but I had plenty of spare time during the day while she was at work.

The hotel was within walking distance of the Ayala Mall, so I spent a couple of hours each afternoon strolling on all the levels. 10-15 years ago, I had great luck with freelancers there as they were numerous, of decent quality, and not outrageously priced.

On my recent visits, I was hoping to chat a bit with some like in the old days. I deliberately walked slowly and attempted to establish eye contact with potential targets. I also had refreshments at Bo's Coffee and Krispy Kreme and ate meals in conspicuous places along the corridors to make it easier for mall lizards to find me.

Over the course of two days and eight total hours there, I had nibbles from a grand total of three femmes.

One was an estimated 20 year old gal who returned my gaze and shyly smiled as we passed while she walking with a girlfriend. A great opportunity in the making, but my mind and body weren't ready to commit to anything, a decision I'd come to regret later.

The second was a 35-plus year old who stopped me while walking and eventually started interrogating me about my life like I was a job applicant. As it was becoming clear she had an agenda that wasn't readily sexually-related, I could only take two minutes of the irrelevant drivel before moving on.

The third was a sexily-dressed 60-year-old hag with whom I talked to for a minute but held zero interest for me. I will admit she was probably a looker back in the 1980's and 1990's, but time since had not been good to her. We never got around to negotiating a deal, as without a bra, her tits would probably be hanging lower than her belly button.

I spotted her the next day chatting with a dark skinned foreigner near the mall exit to the second floor terraces. Perhaps she could satisfy his fetish for grandmothers?

Anyway, I was taken aback by the lack of overt opportunities. I know my visits were small samples, but compared to the good old days, it sure appears Ayala mongering is bleak.

I hope some of you can share some recent mall success stories either here or over in the Cebu forum, as I'd like to make a return trip next year.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044500]

I hope some of you can share some recent mall success stories either here or over in the Cebu forum, as I'd like to make a return trip next year.[/QUOTE]Not recent but the biggest mistake I've made mall hunting is aiming too high in the quality of the mall. Lots of pretties in Ayala, Greenbelt, Abreeza etc but none of them want to suck my dick for $20 and a Chicken Joy.

Much better to head to your local Gaisano or even humbler, where the girls are far more approachable and adventurous. Language skills or local knowledge help a lot. I've had far more success in these malls over the years.

I mentioned that the better malls are good meeting points, after making first contact elsewhere, because they typically are easy to find and get to, have restaurants etc that the girls already know and may even have some western food options. Ayala Cebu for example is also a Jeepney terminal. However, as you found, they ain't pick up joints.

Hope that helps. G.

Last year I was in Cebu city for a week, always alone. I went to the most beautiful place in Cebu, next to a restaurant and a shopping mall. If I remember well the name is "Towers." I contacted many girls online who were kind and seemed willing to meet me, but then each one had an excuse: college, studies, work, family, etc. Etc. Only transsexuals contacted me. Only they really wanted to meet me. So I ran away from Cebu after seven days of nothing and would never return to Cebu again.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044527]Last year I was in Cebu city for a week, always alone. I went to the most beautiful place in Cebu, next to a restaurant and a shopping mall. If I remember well the name is "Towers." I contacted many girls online who were kind and seemed willing to meet me, but then each one had an excuse: college, studies, work, family, etc. Etc. Only transsexuals contacted me. Only they really wanted to meet me. So I ran away from Cebu after seven days of nothing and would never return to Cebu again.[/QUOTE]Hi JL,

Well, some places work for some and not for others.

Sometimes you have to look at your approach and tactics. What are you saying to these girls? How's your appearance and attitude? What's your offer etc. ?

Cebu has always worked for me. Actually, almost every place in The Phils has worked for me one way or another, maybe except for Moalboal.

It appears you've been searching around the world judging by your previous posts.

Sure, Uganda is a probably a bit different to Asia, but for me, Cebu has been very accommodating.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3044583]Hi JL,
It appears you've been searching around the world judging by your previous posts.
Sure, Uganda is a probably a bit different to Asia, but for me, Cebu has been very accommodating.[/QUOTE]I went to many African countries and every African country is a lot better than Cebu. .

In Cebu I rented an apartment in the best area of Cebu where in the evening there were many girls and more. I've seen hundreds but none of them looked you in the eye. So I'm not the type to pick up girls on the street. In the mall I talked to some shop assistants, but I didn't like them. I must admit that I am picky with beauty. Hahahaha So my only job was online. I have spent many hours online, but always without success. I assure you that elsewhere it would have been different, but Cebu is not for me.

I think there are too many semi-pros and perhaps they understood that I wasn't suitable for them. Heheheeh.

I will be going to the Philippines in the last days of February and I will be in the Davao area and surrounding areas until the end of March. Then I thought of going to Iloilo and staying there for a few days so I could get to know the people of Iolio and Bacolod. From Bacolod to Iloilo it is just an hour by ferry. Then I would have liked to go to Boracay, but I noticed that in April the prices have more than doubled compared to March, so I'm thinking of changing my mind. However, I would not have gone to Boracay to do social or beach activities, but only to visit places with beautiful sea and use a drone to watch Boracay from above.

Can anyone tell me if it's better to go to some other island with interesting resorts and the right price? For example, on the island of Panay or its surroundings, are there some interesting resorts and coasts with beautiful views from above?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044527]Last year I was in Cebu city for a week, always alone. I went to the most beautiful place in Cebu, next to a restaurant and a shopping mall. If I remember well the name is "Towers." I contacted many girls online who were kind and seemed willing to meet me, but then each one had an excuse: college, studies, work, family, etc. Etc. Only transsexuals contacted me. Only they really wanted to meet me. So I ran away from Cebu after seven days of nothing and would never return to Cebu again.[/QUOTE]Hey JonesLover, it appears you have a fixation with finding holiday girlfriends from the internet who, either sight unseen or within one day of meeting in person, will agree to stay in your dwelling for a couple of weeks as your live-in companion with the methods of compensation being gifts, unique travel experiences, and perhaps a small amount of daily money.

I'm not trying to find fault with your goal, as 15-20 years ago I also had great success finding holiday girlfriends in the Philippines via the dating websites as well.

But it appears you've recently spent a lot of time and money on your quests without receiving suitable companionship in return, as evidenced by your previous post-pandemic trip write-ups. I am sympathetic and feel your pain.

November 2022: You visited Cagayan de Oro for a week and had no luck finding what you wanted. Then you flew to Tacloban City and had a long dry spell until apparently finding a couple of a prospects.

Unknown month 2024: You spent 7 days in Cebu City with zero successes, then gave up and moved on to another place.

December 2025: You inquire about prospects of success in Zamboanga City, which is the farthest-flung large population outpost in the country and is the last city most experienced mongerers would recommend finding a short-time live-in partner.

Please don't take offense with what I write here, as I sincerely want you to enjoy your overseas hunting trips. But your methods indicate you're a dinosaur, stuck in modes of thinking and operating that have not adjusted to the realities of a worldwide changed female dynamic.

In a way, I suffer from the same fossilization of thinking. I miss the old Manila. The LA Cafe and Amazonia Bar from 20 years ago, full of thin gorgeous women for low compensation rates. Sidewalks full of sexy-dressed streetwalkers. Harrison Plaza, Ermita's Robinson Mall, the ESDA bar complex and plenty of Ermita district low-rent rendezvous bars that were fertile grounds for in-person first meetings. Mall workers who loved bantering with us and were up for meeting for dinner after their shifts ended. Freebees from oodles of semi-desperate Pinays searching online at dating websites, MIRC chat rooms, ICQ, and Yahoo Messenger for someone to rescue them from their miserable lives. Same thing in Cebu City and Davao City. Like shooting ducks in a zoo pond.

I've had to lower my expectations and change my game in the 3 years since the end of the Philippines' pandemic restrictions. I don't like it, but I suffer through. However, I'm fortunate to live in an area with a relatively low expat population, which has its advantages.

Sizing up paramours in person is much superior to doing so online, but the good old days are gone forever. The number of brick-and-mortar naughty establishments worldwide are shrinking fast. I don't like having to choose an online girl from behind either door #1, #2, or #3. Sometimes you have a grand time and other times you get zonked. But it is what it is.

If you're looking for a sure thing, perhaps it's worth checking out this holiday girlfriend website for visitors to Thailand. Its original language is German but is easily translatable to English.

[URL]https://thaisinglereisen.com/[/URL]

To the ISG moderators, I'm not advocating the services of this website, but rather include it here to illustrate another option might be suitable for guys like JonesLover.

Good luck to you and please keep us apprised of your quests. Plenty of guys here will benefit from both your successes and failures.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044644]

I've had to lower my expectations and change my game in the 3 years since the end of the Philippines' pandemic restrictions. I don't like it, but I suffer through. However, I'm fortunate to live in an area with a relatively low expat population, which has its advantages..[/QUOTE]Wth respect, I beg to differ. Lots of guys are commenting on the decline of the Philippines and the difficulty of locking down prime pussy. They should read my last trip report around Mindanao. While I did find the online games frustrating and, yes, worse than previous trips, I specifically commented that the despite the extra effort required, the quality of the girls that did meet had actually risen and was well worth the extra effort. Naturally everyone's taste differ but I also posted numerous photos so guys can make their own judgement.

Like you, I wish JL the best but I do think he's being overly fussy and making things far more difficult than they need to be.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2998262]

The flight to Gensan was packed but uneventful...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044618]I will be going to the Philippines in the last days of February and I will be in the Davao area and surrounding areas until the end of March. Then I thought of going to Iloilo and staying there for a few days so I could get to know the people of Iolio and Bacolod. From Bacolod to Iloilo it is just an hour by ferry. Then I would have liked to go to Boracay, but I noticed that in April the prices have more than doubled compared to March, so I'm thinking of changing my mind. However, I would not have gone to Boracay to do social or beach activities, but only to visit places with beautiful sea and use a drone to watch Boracay from above.

Can anyone tell me if it's better to go to some other island with interesting resorts and the right price? For example, on the island of Panay or its surroundings, are there some interesting resorts and coasts with beautiful views from above?[/QUOTE]Nothing spectacular to see in Boracay beside the sunsets, in regards to the birdseye view, for drone enthusiasts, also nothing. Go to El Nido and Coron for the views.

Girls wise: I know what you're looking for: a girlfriend without pay, that's beautiful, smart and sticks by you. Very rare but not impossible to find. The thing is you need to be ready to spend months looking, not a few days, than give up. The proximity of other mongerers is irrelevant (most of mine where in AC, not bar affiliated). All the GFs I had in the PH took at least 1 week in the happiest case to convince them to go out with me, some a lot longer, some never happened, the 3 year one that I'm with now took over 2 months of daily courting to get her. I did all this as a side project, I did monger every day discreetly, and far away from them, even having orgies, just appeared as innocent for the time being. If you're Brad Pitt then is a different story, I don't know about yourself, but I'm not, so I always had to work for it, but if you make it as an extra activity as I did you can even pursue 2-3 leads at once.

Money wise: as we discussed here on numerous times, the social safety net in PH involves all members of the family, and they are all expected to contribute, and also they have their own bills to pay. So if you yank her out of her place you're expected to replace her income to cover her role in the grand family scheme, and of course she's supposed to have a much better life by your side, after all she'll be the GF of a filthy rich foreigner, if she's FB-ing then she also needs to show off to her friends that she's better off now.

There are a lot of variables, and you'll need to provide. Everybody since the beginning of time paid for pussy, one way or another, even if you're married you'll do it in some form, that's the way it works, unless you were with the Wermacht 14th Panzer Division entering Paris from East.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3044618]I will be going to the Philippines in the last days of February and I will be in the Davao area and surrounding areas until the end of March. Then I thought of going to Iloilo and staying there for a few days so I could get to know the people of Iolio and Bacolod. From Bacolod to Iloilo it is just an hour by ferry. Then I would have liked to go to Boracay, but I noticed that in April the prices have more than doubled compared to March, so I'm thinking of changing my mind. However, I would not have gone to Boracay to do social or beach activities, but only to visit places with beautiful sea and use a drone to watch Boracay from above.

Can anyone tell me if it's better to go to some other island with interesting resorts and the right price? For example, on the island of Panay or its surroundings, are there some interesting resorts and coasts with beautiful views from above?[/QUOTE]You might consider Alona Beach in Bohol, well, technically Panglao Island.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3044661]Like you, I wish JL the best but I do think he's being overly fussy and making things far more difficult than they need to be. Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Agreed G. And I think we're getting off track here.

Many have offered loads of advice including replies to DM's.

Not being nasty, but It's just getting to the point that JL might have to go on Tripadvisor, as opposed to ISG, if we've now shifted the conversation away from pussy and onto scenery and drones.

_ Phil.

Manigong Bagong Taon! And Plenty of Pussy in the New Year!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3044929]Not being nasty, but It's just getting to the point that JL might have to go on Tripadvisor, as opposed to ISG, if we've now shifted the conversation away from pussy and onto scenery and drones.[/QUOTE]Happy New year ehehehe.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3044644]In a way, I suffer from the same fossilization of thinking. I miss the old Manila. The LA Cafe and Amazonia Bar from 20 years ago, full of thin gorgeous women for low compensation rates. Sidewalks full of sexy-dressed streetwalkers. Harrison Plaza, Ermita's Robinson Mall, the ESDA bar complex and plenty of Ermita district low-rent rendezvous bars that were fertile grounds for in-person first meetings. Mall workers who loved bantering with us and were up for meeting for dinner after their shifts ended. Freebees from oodles of semi-desperate Pinays searching online at dating websites, MIRC chat rooms, ICQ, and Yahoo Messenger for someone to rescue them from their miserable lives. Same thing in Cebu City and Davao City. Like shooting ducks in a zoo pond..[/QUOTE]How do you the changes for serious girlfriend? I have spent my last two years with a Filipina who was far better that whatever western woman but I broke with her because she was too lazy. So now I start again looking for tradwife.

[QUOTE=DonMalo;3045099]How do you the changes for serious girlfriend? I have spent my last two years with a Filipina who was far better that whatever western woman but I broke with her because she was too lazy. So now I start again looking for tradwife.[/QUOTE]You broke up with her instead of training her? People should lay out their expectations at the beginning.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045133]You broke up with her instead of training her? People should lay out their expectations at the beginning.[/QUOTE]My conclusion is that they are untrainable, or at least it has to be a compromise, some things, especially sex related can be easily taught, other ones involving house chores, cooking, cleaning, etc are well known by them, and therefore there is no need to even pay attention or at least try to do it your way. At first you get mad, but after a while you learn that in fact is the other way around, you're the one getting trained to their ways, at least partially, and that's due mostly to the fact, that you can't argue with stupid people.

I'm thinking that probably the writers of Star Trek got inspired to create the Borg by visiting PH.

"Resistance is futile!

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3045157]My conclusion is that they are untrainable, or at least it has to be a compromise, some things, especially sex related can be easily taught, other ones involving house chores, cooking, cleaning, etc are well known by them, and therefore there is no need to even pay attention or at least try to do it your way. At first you get mad, but after a while you learn that in fact is the other way around, you're the one getting trained to their ways, at least partially, and that's due mostly to the fact, that you can't argue with stupid people.

I'm thinking that probably the writers of Star Trek got inspired to create the Borg by visiting PH.

"Resistance is futile![/QUOTE]She was loyal and family oriented but lazy. She just laid on her bed after her work was done. She always promise that after marriage and stop her work, she would be a good housewife. I asked her to show it is true before a marriage. In two years of relationship she was not ready to do it. A big waste of time. She was from city, youngest daughter and she even never cooked or did other house chores. She gave all her salary to her parents and her mama was the one cleaning her small room. And she was really scared to have kids over 30 y old, as she was 27, maybe more than one should born on her 30+. That fear come from western propaganda against pregnancy that they see on socmed. She was loyal and good and even abroad to Europe with me (when she was 26).

This is why I want to try with one full month in areas that aren't common for tourists and try to date a young woman without socmed.

I had a GF for 2 years with a girl from Biliran. We weren't together often, but we met several times. But I couldn't train her. It seems incredible but after two years of knowing each other she has never managed to caress me, not even after asking repeatedly. He just wanted pure sex and that was it. But it had to be just me asking. Once I asked her for a caress 4-5 times, she wasn't able to give it to me so I left her. I couldn't carry on a relationship like that. An incredible but true story.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045196]I had a GF for 2 years with a girl from Biliran. We weren't together often, but we met several times. But I couldn't train her. It seems incredible but after two years of knowing each other she has never managed to caress me, not even after asking repeatedly. He just wanted pure sex and that was it. But it had to be just me asking. Once I asked her for a caress 4-5 times, she wasn't able to give it to me so I left her. I couldn't carry on a relationship like that. An incredible but true story.[/QUOTE]Two words _ Move on.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045196]I had a GF for 2 years with a girl from Biliran. We weren't together often, but we met several times. But I couldn't train her. It seems incredible but after two years of knowing each other she has never managed to caress me, not even after asking repeatedly. He just wanted pure sex and that was it. But it had to be just me asking. Once I asked her for a caress 4-5 times, she wasn't able to give it to me so I left her. I couldn't carry on a relationship like that. An incredible but true story.[/QUOTE]Are you sure she even knew what you meant? It seems many folks get caught up that since they can mimic words in English that they have understanding, which half the times they don't.

Last month I went to Puerto Princesa with a chick who works at a call center in AC. We were in the van on the way to the Underground River and stopped at a hotel to pick up more people. In front of the hotel was a Shakey's. I asked her if she wanted to eat at Shakey's tonight. She said no. I did not say anything else about it. When we dropped the people off in the afternoon I asked her why she did not like Shakey's. She said she liked it. I said but this morning when I asked if you wanted to eat there you said no. She said I did not understand what you were asking. I said then why give a random answer instead of asking for clarification. Well we ended up going to Shakey's that night and while there she said it was her first time eating at Shakey's and she liked it.

So she went from not wanting to go, to liking it, to it being her first time (so she could not have known whether she liked it or not.) You guys give these folks too much credit simply due to you hearing English coming out of their mouths. That does not mean they actually understand it. So you may have broken up with the chick simply due to a miscommunication.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045196]I had a GF for 2 years with a girl from Biliran. We weren't together often, but we met several times. But I couldn't train her. It seems incredible but after two years of knowing each other she has never managed to caress me, not even after asking repeatedly. He just wanted pure sex and that was it. But it had to be just me asking. Once I asked her for a caress 4-5 times, she wasn't able to give it to me so I left her. I couldn't carry on a relationship like that. An incredible but true story.[/QUOTE]Do you mean that she was not clingy outside sex? Like not hugs nor kisses often? If she offered sex often and she took good care of you, where is the problem? It is better sex instead of clingy like western men that can endure 2-3 without sex their husband. And Filipina usually take more care of their partner.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045269]Are you sure she even knew what you meant? It seems many folks get caught up that since they can mimic words in English that they have understanding, which half the times they don't.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this is not the case. At my age I need sex and love. But she just wanted sex only and she was passive, when I took her hand so that she could touch me, then she withdrew it. Ahahaha She wanted rough sex of any kind. She was hungry for sex and wanted it all the time, even in very early morning. But it was me who had to do it and not her. Hahahhaha Many Filipino girls are really weird.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045269]Are you sure she even knew what you meant? It seems many folks get caught up that since they can mimic words in English that they have understanding, which half the times they don't.

Last month I went to Puerto Princesa with a chick who works at a call center in AC. We were in the van on the way to the Underground River and stopped at a hotel to pick up more people. In front of the hotel was a Shakey's. I asked her if she wanted to eat at Shakey's tonight. She said no. I did not say anything else about it. When we dropped the people off in the afternoon I asked her why she did not like Shakey's. She said she liked it. I said but this morning when I asked if you wanted to eat there you said no. She said I did not understand what you were asking. I said then why give a random answer instead of asking for clarification. Well we ended up going to Shakey's that night and while there she said it was her first time eating at Shakey's and she liked it.

So she went from not wanting to go, to liking it, to it being her first time (so she could not have known whether she liked it or not.) You guys give these folks too much credit simply due to you hearing English coming out of their mouths. That does not mean they actually understand it. So you may have broken up with the chick simply due to a miscommunication.[/QUOTE]I learned that long time ago, even if my GF understands everything, she may not speak out her mind completely, what I mean is that she has it clearly in her head, but spills it out only partially, which many times leads to confusion or misunderstanding. It is like asking is it dark or still daylight outside, and she answers: Yes.

I'm explaining on daily basis that I cannot read her mind, and for the sake of her future, not just for me, to think about how what she's saying is understood by the people outside her head.

And I was observing this type of behavior a lot in many filipinas, and of course also the fact that they will give you an answer (mostly yes) even when they don't understand a thing that you're saying.

About what Don Malo is saying: mine does all the chores, but because I'm also fucked up in the head, I redo, or do them when she's not around (she takes offense), because she's not capable of doing them right, and not willing to change her ways to make her life easier. Like for example putting a lid on the frying pan when frying fish is a lot easier than cleaning the splashed oil of everything in a 3 ft radius, including the walls and the window, and the curtains, components that don't have nothing to do with, and shouldn't be involved into the cooking process.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3045366]I learned that long time ago, even if my GF understands everything, she may not speak out her mind completely, what I mean is that she has it clearly in her head, but spills it out only partially, which many times leads to confusion or misunderstanding. It is like asking is it dark or still daylight outside, and she answers: Yes.

I'm explaining on daily basis that I cannot read her mind, and for the sake of her future, not just for me, to think about how what she's saying is understood by the people outside her head.

And I was observing this type of behavior a lot in many filipinas, and of course also the fact that they will give you an answer (mostly yes) even when they don't understand a thing that you're saying.

About what Don Malo is saying: mine does all the chores, but because I'm also fucked up in the head, I redo, or do them when she's not around (she takes offense), because she's not capable of doing them right, and not willing to change her ways to make her life easier. Like for example putting a lid on the frying pan when frying fish is a lot easier than cleaning the splashed oil of everything in a 3 ft radius, including the walls and the window, and the curtains, components that don't have nothing to do with, and shouldn't be involved into the cooking process.[/QUOTE]Sometimes these Filipino girls baffle me. I believe that in their life they have never exercised their brain to do things, such as the curiosity to learn. Yesterday I told a beautiful girl from General Santos that if she came to visit me in Davao, we could go to Samal together. Do you want to know the answer? "What is Samal"? I replied that it is an island and she asked me: "where is it". I replied that it is located a few kilometers from General Santos, in front of Davao.

These things make you lose your mind, but then you think that no one has stimulated her during her life journey and then you begin to understand more.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045336]Unfortunately this is not the case. At my age I need sex and love. But she just wanted sex only and she was passive, when I took her hand so that she could touch me, then she withdrew it. Ahahaha She wanted rough sex of any kind. She was hungry for sex and wanted it all the time, even in very early morning. But it was me who had to do it and not her. Hahahhaha Many Filipino girls are really weird.[/QUOTE]That has nothing to do with being Filipina. That has something to do with being human. In 1999 I had an American girlfriend who was that way. She was a divorced school teacher with a doctorate degree. She was just not used to someone showing affection towards her and was not comfortable to accept it or reciprocate it. I did the same as you and broke up with her. Being older and wiser, I would try to have more patience with the person and teach them or maybe even seek therapy or counseling for them if I really liked them. You should not just write them off as being weird.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3045366]I learned that long time ago, even if my GF understands everything, she may not speak out her mind completely, what I mean is that she has it clearly in her head, but spills it out only partially, which many times leads to confusion or misunderstanding. It is like asking is it dark or still daylight outside, and she answers: Yes.

And I was observing this type of behavior a lot in many filipinas, and of course also the fact that they will give you an answer (mostly yes) even when they don't understand a thing that you're saying.[/QUOTE]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes. And I kept saying yes what. Which is better? Then she finally said french fries, but only due to the appearance of being frustrated as well. Hell, maybe she was thinking why doesn't this mf know what he wants and wants me to decide for him.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045429]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes. And I kept saying yes what. Which is better? Then she finally said french fries, but only due to the appearance of being frustrated as well. Hell, maybe she was thinking why doesn't this mf know what he wants and wants me to decide for him.[/QUOTE]A number of possibilities, and a possible fix in Phils.

1) Pinoy consider foreigners to be smart. They may answer YES to any question, even if they understood the question and have no idea the correct answer, and even if they didn't understand the question. Saying YES is a way to appear 'not stupid', and quickly get you out of her hair or on to a different topic. In the western culture if someone did this to your question, you'd consider them to be bullsh*ting you. In eastern culture it might be considered smart. As an example, on the street you ask someone if there is a Jollibee nearby. "Yes. There". She points south. You thank her and continue walking south. She walks north. She had no idea if there's a Jolli nearby, and she thinks she was clever in getting rid of you, and not appearing to be stupid. Later when you realize there is no Jollibee there, you think she's an idiot, and crazy. If you see this lady at a later time, don't bother confronting her about it. WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME? She will give you another answer that is also designed to minimize damage to herself, and you won't get any satisfaction from her answer. Venting won't help.

2) Pinay don't like making decisions, period. Girls here especially would rather that YOU lead and make the decisions. It doesn't matter what alternative you offer: Chicken / fries, Jollie / McDo, yada / yada / yada. She will want for you to decide. "Bahala ka (up to you)". Even if she's interested in making the decision, she won't admit that by making the decision. Such decision possibilities were culturally withheld from her since birth.

3) Pinay are not cultured or trained to understand or answer exclusive-or (XOR) questions. Sweetie, you want fries or nuggets? "Yes" (or Bahala ka / Up To You). This is her attempt to not answer your question. Or alternately, she did not understand the question and she won't admit that (save face). Exclusive or questions are meant to be answered with one or the other items. The respondent is expected to choose only one of the items (not both, which would be the Inclusive OR). Probably one of two things are happening: Either she doesn't care which item (fries or nuggets), or she just can't make the decision (culture) and wants to be left out of the process.

So here's the fix. Ignore the 'why' part of her strange non-answers. Approach the question like this: Sweetie I'm thinking either Jolli or McDo. Which would you like? If she answers either "Yes", or "Up to you", don't try to force a better / accurate answer. She's literally telling you in her terms to make the decision. THEN MAKE THE DECISION YOURSELF for the both of you. Don't hem, don't haw. Take her to Jollie or McDo. She's more interested in eating (which she loves) than decision-making (which scares her). She won't complain. Sweetie, chicken / rice or spaghetti for lunch? "Yes". OK, spaghetti then. "OK". Sweetie, the live band bar tonight, or the disco? "Bahala ka". OK, live band then. "OK".

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045538]A number of possibilities, and a possible fix in Phils.

1) Pinoy consider foreigners to be smart. They may answer YES to any question, even if they understood the question and have no idea the correct answer, and even if they didn't understand the question. Saying YES is a way to appear 'not stupid', and quickly get you out of her hair or on to a different topic. In the western culture if someone did this to your question, you'd consider them to be bullsh*ting you. In eastern culture it might be considered smart. As an example, on the street you ask someone if there is a Jollibee nearby. "Yes. There". She points south. You thank her and continue walking south. She walks north. She had no idea if there's a Jolli nearby, and she thinks she was clever in getting rid of you, and not appearing to be stupid. Later when you realize there is no Jollibee there, you think she's an idiot, and crazy. If you see this lady at a later time, don't bother confronting her about it. WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME? She will give you another answer that is also designed to minimize damage to herself, and you won't get any satisfaction from her answer. Venting won't help.

2) Pinay don't like making decisions, period. Girls here especially would rather that YOU lead and make the decisions. It doesn't matter what alternative you offer: Chicken / fries, Jollie / McDo, yada / yada / yada. She will want for you to decide. "Bahala ka (up to you)". Even if she's interested in making the decision, she won't admit that by making the decision. Such decision possibilities were culturally withheld from her since birth.

3) Pinay are not cultured or trained to understand or answer exclusive-or (XOR) questions. Sweetie, you want fries or nuggets? "Yes" (or Bahala ka / Up To You). This is her attempt to not answer your question. Or alternately, she did not understand the question and she won't admit that (save face). Exclusive or questions are meant to be answered with one or the other items. The respondent is expected to choose only one of the items (not both, which would be the Inclusive OR). Probably one of two things are happening: Either she doesn't care which item (fries or nuggets), or she just can't make the decision (culture) and wants to be left out of the process.

So here's the fix. Ignore the 'why' part of her strange non-answers. Approach the question like this: Sweetie I'm thinking either Jolli or McDo. Which would you like? If she answers either "Yes", or "Up to you", don't try to force a better / accurate answer. She's literally telling you in her terms to make the decision. THEN MAKE THE DECISION YOURSELF for the both of you. Don't hem, don't haw. Take her to Jollie or McDo. She's more interested in eating (which she loves) than decision-making (which scares her). She won't complain. Sweetie, chicken / rice or spaghetti for lunch? "Yes". OK, spaghetti then. "OK". Sweetie, the live band bar tonight, or the disco? "Bahala ka". OK, live band then. "OK".

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]AND NAND OR NOR XOR, somebody should come up with a graphical representation, similar to the TTL gates.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045538]

2) Pinay don't like making decisions, period. Girls here especially would rather that YOU lead and make the decisions. It doesn't matter what alternative you offer: Chicken / fries, Jollie / McDo, yada / yada / yada. She will want for you to decide. "Bahala ka (up to you)". Even if she's interested in making the decision, she won't admit that by making the decision. Such decision possibilities were culturally withheld from her since birth.

3) Pinay are not cultured or trained to understand or answer exclusive-or (XOR) questions. Sweetie, you want fries or nuggets? "Yes" (or Bahala ka / Up To You). This is her attempt to not answer your question. Or alternately, she did not understand the question and she won't admit that (save face). Exclusive or questions are meant to be answered with one or the other items. The respondent is expected to choose only one of the items (not both, which would be the Inclusive OR). Probably one of two things are happening: Either she doesn't care which item (fries or nuggets), or she just can't make the decision (culture) and wants to be left out of the process.

[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is why Philippinas are often dispassionate, but open to absolutely anything, lovers?

I've met many who are ok with anything. I've described several as unable to say no. A few have even told me point blank that I can do to them what ever I want.

At the same time they seem to have little interest in self pleasure or maximizing their own enjoyment.

That's why I like a girl who has been pretrained by a couple of pinoy boyfriends: she always has the attitude to do what ever keeps boyfie happy, no questions asked.

It's been very rare to find a girl who takes the lead.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3045541]AND NAND OR NOR XOR, somebody should come up with a graphical representation, similar to the TTL gates.[/QUOTE]Pretty much everyone in my culture understands that when someone offers you something where you must make a choice, you get only one of the items. Offer your American GF a choice between two restaurants (or pieces of jewelry) and she will quickly tell you which one she prefers. However in Phils all that goes out the window.

As an alternative to my fix from below. A slightly different fix to try if you want. When asking her to decide between two items (ex fries or nuggets), put the words "choose one ONLY" at the end of the question. [B]Sweetie would you like the fries or the nuggets? Choose one ONLY[/B]. Emphasize the word ONLY. You might be surprised when she says: "You want me to be the one to decide? I choose fries". The original question of: Sweetie would you like the fries or nuggets? (without telling her to choose just one) might be confusing to her P-english. Seems that they have the same meaning to me, but not to her. From her perspective: [B]Is he asking me to make a decision? I should choose only one? I can choose both? Can I choose none and not answer? AHHHHHHH! Is it easier to just say YES?[/B].

If you think I'm kidding about them not liking decision-making (they fear it with foreigners, but not each other), fall in line in any fast food venue. While waiting in a long line at McDo, watch them not looking at the menu while they wait in line. Friends will chat away with each other, waiting in line a solid five+ minutes. When they reach the cashier to order, THEN they start looking up at the menu. As a small group (say, 2-4 ladies), they stare and stare at the menu. Some or all of them might order, then change their order as the cashier is punching the order into the computer (or just after). They might leave the cash register line they were standing in while ordering, and walk away, looking at different parts of the menu several cash registers over, then come back and change their order again. Its a miracle sometime that the order for them finishes. While they are doing that, you have time to shave. You think to yourself: Five or more minutes in line, and they never once looked up at the menu. And now that they are ordering, they are just now finding out what they want, and they are changing their minds. Why didn't they have an approximate order ready when they hit the cashier? Yet, if she is with you in line, she may or may not have an opinion about what she wants, and she won't complain if you order her a cheeseburger-fries-coke, when she wanted spaghetti. For her, silence is golden when she is with a smart poriner. When she's out with her friends, the decision on what to order is delayed until the last possible moment.

Perhaps not surprisingly for you, when I say to you that when I choose to go to McDonalds (alone or with someone), I choose it because I want a specific thing there (ie, big mac, or sausage-egg-mcmuffin), not available elsewhere. The menu decision was made prior to door entry. But for many pinay. . .

So, ya, the XOR thing was for you Old and Wise fellas, not the pretties we date.

I remember that initially I got angry with my pinay when I asked 2 questions at the same time in chat. She always answered me just one question. But then I realized that it wasn't just my pinay mom's problem because they all behave this way. A pinay almost never answers 2 written questions, but always just one, perhaps the easiest one. So now I always ask one question at a time. Jejejeeje.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045429]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes.[/QUOTE]And there lies the problem MR. E,

Two shitty 'foreign' food choices.

No Lechon about obviously.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045564]I remember that initially I got angry with my pinay when I asked 2 questions at the same time in chat. She always answered me just one question. But then I realized that it wasn't just my pinay mom's problem because they all behave this way. A pinay almost never answers 2 written questions, but always just one, perhaps the easiest one. So now I always ask one question at a time. Jejejeeje.[/QUOTE]On the flip side, if they ask you multiple questions and you start by answering the first, they are totally lost and do not know what you are talking about. You have to remind them by saying look up (I suspect they literally look up in the air instead of looking up in the conversation) so they can see what they asked you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045643]On the flip side, if they ask you multiple questions and you start by answering the first, they are totally lost and do not know what you are talking about. You have to remind them by saying look up (I suspect they literally look up in the air instead of looking up in the conversation) so they can see what they asked you.[/QUOTE]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. A few examples, recently:

Parent #1. An educated Filipino with two sons, both in high school. "Thank God they shortened the schooling back. Its just not needed. We don't need to compete with western countries. Our schools are OUR schools. School should be a fun place where kids go to socialize". And, "Our economy is based on manual labor. The jobs for most people can be done by training a monkey. Don't need a diploma for that. Don't need schooling for that".

Parent #2. A HS grad who went OFW at least twice. "My son will graduate next year". He is finishing high school then. "Yes. But they reduce the time. Now only grade 10 to graduate. Like when I was in school". Apparently some students were grandfathered to the extended year system. "My son goes to school 1 day a week, for 3 hours only". That would seem to me, ma'am, that he will not get his last year's academics by going only 1 day per week, and half a day. "Don't matter. School don't matter. The are taking two years of my son's life". You make it sound like a jail sentence. "Not jail. But its taking. He can be working now maybe, if he's not in school". Didn't your job require a HS diploma when you OFW? "Yes of course but most of our people don't need that. I even keep my youngest son at home now". Really, how old is he? "Seven. He did Kinder and one level. Its enough. School is not important". You are in your 30's now ma'am. You came back from OFW before covid, have you worked since then in a long-term job? "No. I wash clothes the neighbors. P150 each day. Few days each week".

If the locals don't think its important, then it won't be important. We have discussed before at our chicas inability to do math, read, spell, write, talk, analyze, or think outside the box. Any wonder why?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045707]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. A few examples, recently:

Parent #1. An educated Filipino with two sons, both in high school. "Thank God they shortened the schooling back. Its just not needed. We don't need to compete with western countries. Our schools are OUR schools. School should be a fun place where kids go to socialize". And, "Our economy is based on manual labor. The jobs for most people can be done by training a monkey. Don't need a diploma for that. Don't need schooling for that".

Parent #2. A HS grad who went OFW at least twice. "My son will graduate next year". He is finishing high school then. "Yes. But they reduce the time. Now only grade 10 to graduate. Like when I was in school". Apparently some students were grandfathered to the extended year system. "My son goes to school 1 day a week, for 3 hours only". That would seem to me, ma'am, that he will not get his last year's academics by going only 1 day per week, and half a day. "Don't matter. School don't matter. The are taking two years of my son's life". You make it sound like a jail sentence. "Not jail. But its taking. He can be working now maybe, if he's not in school". Didn't your job require a HS diploma when you OFW? "Yes of course but most of our people don't need that. I even keep my youngest son at home now". Really, how old is he? "Seven. He did Kinder and one level. Its enough. School is not important". You are in your 30's now ma'am. You came back from OFW before covid, have you worked since then in a long-term job? "No. I wash clothes the neighbors. P150 each day. Few days each week".

If the locals don't think its important, then it won't be important. We have discussed before at our chicas inability to do math, read, spell, write, talk, analyze, or think outside the box. Any wonder why?[/QUOTE]I'm no expert but hasn't the absolute IQ number and world ranking risen sharply recently. A coincidence or not but this also aligns with the the School meals program. I don't think it's a long stretch to regard infant nutrition correlates to life long IQ.

Similar to the parents that you mentioned, I have family who will always have menial jobs, not because they couldn't get better but because they themselves believe that that's all they can get. It's not unusual for people to blame "fate" or "society" for their lot in life.

Philippines may have a real excuse beyond lack of ambition or drive. They have spent generations where not having the right political or family connection meant that they had effectively zero opportunity to change their lot in life. That's changing slowly but it's not coincidence that the wealthiest Asians come from family dynasties rather than self made go getters.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045429]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes. And I kept saying yes what. Which is better? Then she finally said french fries, but only due to the appearance of being frustrated as well. Hell, maybe she was thinking why doesn't this mf know what he wants and wants me to decide for him.[/QUOTE]Years ago I was at the mall buying a shit load of dried mangoes to bring home. I asked the man which was the better brand? He replied any of them from Cebu is good. Then I repeated which one is the better brand? He looked a little irritated with me and proceeded to tell that 2 small bags was equivalent to a days pay! Htf would he know what they taste like. He has never tasted a dried mangoes as most Filipinos couldn't afford it!

A lot of restaurant meals cost close to a days pay for them. That lady may have never ate a French fire or half a chicken nugget there. She couldn't answer which was better. Us dumb foreigners don't realize they don't have a similar life experience as us even though they speak English.

Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045707]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. why?[/QUOTE]Seems the same debate is going on in America. Many people think school is not needed because they can learn shit on youtube or whatever. It does though seem that the ones saying school is not needed are the ones that did not go to school.

I do not know how the educational system in PI works. Before covid I was dating a university dean. I even went to the school and it was more like high school. The students were young as shit. And it really tripped me out when she would talk about calling people's parents about academic or discipline issues. I was like, but these are grown people. What are you calling their parents for? So maybe their university is really our high school.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045770]Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Mate, it sounds like simple economics.

You've been offered a good rate to stay there a month.

That's the monthly rate. If you like it, take it and stay there for a month.

Work out where you want to go, and where you want to stay, and for how long at each place.

The prices will fall into line accordingly and you'll be able to get the calculator out to assist you in making a choice, whether to take the cheap monthly rent and travel elsewhere, or to book all digs separately.

Happy hunting _ Phil.

First of all, I thank you for the advice. I don't even have the slightest idea how much I can pay for electricity, water, and internet separately in one month. Every day I use my Computer to surf. Does anyone have experience with how much electricity, water, and internet expenses can amount to in a month?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045770]Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]What Phil said. You've been given a 50% discount so you could go to Samal for two weeks and still be ahead.

Note this doesn't include electricity which isn't cheap in PI. You need to factor this in. Some owners pass on the cost with a markup so ask how it's charged and at what rate. If you need aircon 24/7, then the box type units cost a lot more to run than the modern split systems.

With respect, given the number of questions that you have had answered here, it's about time that you posted an actual girl / city / trip report.

Enjoy. G.

Well, I published something, indeed! I inform you that I usually meet a girl and spend many days with her, so my reports can be disappointing.

The last meeting was with my GF and I have already talked about it.

She was from Almeria (Biliran), she seemed like a sincere girl, but I was wrong.

I had already met her 2 times and we talked a lot in chat and we had a connection. One day I asked her: where are you? She replied: I'm at home. But he told me hesitantly. So I checked: I chatted with her under another name, then asked her to make a video call. When she opened the cam she saw me ahahahaha and I saw her who wasn't at home, but was in Cebu. I told her to fuck off. But then after less than a year we resumed communication. Then we met again and went to Bantayan island together. On the first day I paid for the scooter and the hotel in advance. Then we went to rest. From that moment the ruckus happened. I kept asking her to caress and touch me, but she couldn't. He just wanted lots of sex, but she was just passive. The next day I asked her again to reach over my body and caress me and she couldn't. So I rushed away from Bantayan to Cebu. I paid for her transportation and never saw her again. End of story. It seems incredible to me that for a hand that wasn't extended, she missed out on a nice holiday. To tell the truth, I lost even more than her. Ahahahaa But it served as a lesson to me.

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I don't travel just to look for sex. I travel to visit places, take photos, look for a beautiful, sweet and kind girl. If that's not the case, I won't even approach her. For example, I was in Tacloban and after chatting for a long time with a girl, I asked her if she wanted to come with me to Bantayan island and then to Cebu. He immediately accepted and we arranged to meet at 6. 30 am in the Van Terminal. I waited 30 minutes after that time and realizing that she had screwed me, I went back to the hotel. Then she texted me again telling me she hadn't woken up. So we arranged to meet the next day. She was 20 years old and of a rare beauty. So we take the Van and leave. We arrive at Bantayan and she was very kind to me. Everything was fine with her. We rode all over Bantayan on the scooter, but didn't do anything at night. Hahahahaha he told me it was the first time he went with a foreigner, blah blah blah. I was sure of this, but I was also sure that he had also fucked a lot with his young friends. He always found so many excuses. But he did everything he could to make me happy. Hahahaha Every night she did a striptease in front of me with passion. Her body was exceptional, of a beauty never seen before in the Philippines. So after a week we went to Cebu. Same story. She was often naked next to me with ease. Once I grabbed her and forcefully asked her to have sex. She asked me that she wanted to watch a porn movie first. We watched it and then had sex. But her beauty gave me a lump in my throat. It was the first time I fucked a beauty like that. Ahahah ahhaha ahahah After that day we did lots and lots of dirty things together but not penetrative sex.

After 10 days we broke up and I gave her a little money and told her that if she made me fuck I would give her more.

But she was happy and we still chat. He also has a good heart. Ahahaha jejejej aghahahah.

If multiple questions are asked only one will be answered, typically the last one, but is not a rule. This applies not exclusively to PH but the whole SEA.

The amazing part and the most puzzling one is when the questions are in written form (message, text, etc) how do they chose which one to answer, and which to ignore, when the questions are staring you in the face?

I'm not talking about French fries, but about business related questions, their business, that eventually need to be answered anyway (lodging, airfare, boats, rentals, etc).

Probably this is the reason why the communication via emails is inexistent unless you're dealing with a western co.

The fucked up part is that I'm dealing with a similar situation right in this moment, while I'm writing this, and talking with my GF which is cooking something.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045770]Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]If you don't have nothing better to do, and lots of time on your hands, just do it, and see what comes out of it. I did the same a year ago I think, and at first it looked dry for about a week, then after "my eyes accommodated to the dark" I started seeing, and things started to happen.

Something new is happening to me.

I found a girl from General Santos who would come to Davao to visit me for a week, but we haven't decided exactly how many days yet. She's a beautiful, sweet and kind girl and I talk to her well. I've been talking to her for about a month and she can't wait to meet me. Today he asked me if I could meet his parents. I asked her why. I asked what is the purpose of my visit to his parents. In fact I was clear with her. I've always told her that I consider her my best friend, but nothing more. She replied that her parents would like to know who her daughter is going with. I would have no problem going to General Santos for a day with her to visit her parents and returning the same day, but it worries me because I don't want ties of any kind. Ahahahahaha.

What would you do?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045892] He always found so many excuses. She was often naked next to me with ease. Once I grabbed her and forcefully asked her to have sex. She asked me that she wanted to watch a porn movie first. After that day we did lots and lots of dirty things together but not penetrative sex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045889]I kept asking her to caress and touch me, but she couldn't. He just wanted lots of sex, but she was just passive. The next day I asked her again to reach over my body and caress me and she couldn't. So I rushed away from Bantayan to Cebu. I paid for her transportation and never saw her again. End of story. It seems incredible to me that for a hand that wasn't extended, she missed out on a nice holiday. To tell the truth, I lost even more than her. Ahahahaa But it served as a lesson to me.[/QUOTE]Mate, just reading between the lines, you need to just go out there and have a good time.

Pay a freelancer 2-3 k, grab something on Pina that's just after pay and shoot, or spend a heap in a bar.

You mention you're old and good looking.

Well, I'm in my mid 50's but no oil painting.

The biggest feedback I get is I smell nice and look after myself for a foreigner.

(Some of the older guys I see absolutely wasted in the Phils, and appearing really untidy, isn't a great look).

The reality is, we're old and still able to hook up with younger women in The Phils that is unlikely to happen at home.

Take advantage of it, don't over think it and don't fall in love.

Be realistic.

They're hookers.

And we're supplementing their income in the nicest possible way.

Enjoy _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3046027]Mate, just reading between the lines, you need to just go out there and have a good time.

Pay a freelancer 2-3 k, grab something on Pina that's just after pay and shoot, or spend a heap in a bar.

You mention you're old and good looking.

Well, I'm in my mid 50's but no oil painting.

The biggest feedback I get is I smell nice and look after myself for a foreigner..[/QUOTE]This is great realistic advice. At the end of the day, pretty young Pinays are not dreaming about falling in love with a grandpa, even if he considers himself a silver fox. Often there is a dissonance between the aspirations of the old foreigner and the nubile Pinay. He wants love and passionate sex. She wants money and a ticket to rich foreigner land where she can upgrade. She does not need grandpa to drill her with a Viagra boner. If she wants love, she can visit the nipa hut of her handsome Pinoy trike driver for a vigorous rock hard pounding for twelve rounds.

Plain and simple, she is only willing to meet the old foreigner for monetary and migratory benefits. It does not matter whether he looks like Brad Pitt or scrambled eggs. As for the girl wanting him to meet the parents, there is no mystery here. They want their cut of the action up front. He will be expected to buy some gifts, it could be anything from a case of Red Horse and a bottle of Tanduay to roasted pig party for the village. They will need to celebrate their daughter finally hitting the jackpot.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045979]Something new is happening to me.

I found a girl from General Santos who would come to Davao to visit me for a week, but we haven't decided exactly how many days yet. She's a beautiful, sweet and kind girl and I talk to her well. I've been talking to her for about a month and she can't wait to meet me. Today he asked me if I could meet his parents. I asked her why. I asked what is the purpose of my visit to his parents. In fact I was clear with her. I've always told her that I consider her my best friend, but nothing more. She replied that her parents would like to know who her daughter is going with. I would have no problem going to General Santos for a day with her to visit her parents and returning the same day, but it worries me because I don't want ties of any kind. Ahahahahaha.

What would you do?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3046027]Mate, just reading between the lines, you need to just go out there and have a good time.

[/QUOTE]Yet again, Phil is right on the money.

The best way to arrest a slide in performance is to grab any nearby girl and get back in the game. If that means temporarily dropping standards that's fine. Girls are expert at smelling fear and desperation so the important thing is to get a shot away, rebuild your confidence and continue on. I don't know how long your holiday is but if you keep procrastinating time will be up and you will be heading home empty handed.

If you're in Davao now, there are many girls there but if you are set on the Gensan girl, I'd go there to meet her. I've never been a fan of freighting girls around the country. Especially for a first meet. Too many risks.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046082]I don't know how long your holiday is but if you keep procrastinating time will be up and you will be heading home empty handed.
If you're in Davao now, there are many girls there but if you are set on the Gensan girl, I'd go there to meet her. I've never been a fan of freighting girls around the country. Especially for a first meet. Too many risks.[/QUOTE]I will reach Davao at the end of February. I have 2 months to have fun and above all to rest. As you advised me, I'm negotiating an apartment for 1 month next to People's Park, but I'm afraid of getting bored. A month in one area is perhaps too much. I don't know!! Then staying 2 months in Davao is a lot of days. I was also thinking about going to General Santos, but I read that it's not that great. Then, being a fairly small city, girls will be more difficult to get into bed.

So either I'll stay in Davao for 2 months, maybe changing the apartment to another area, or I'll go to another city, but where?

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3046053]At the end of the day, pretty young Pinays are not dreaming about falling in love with a grandpa, even if he considers himself a silver fox. [/QUOTE]Are you suggesting that 19 yo students may not find my magnetic personality and rugged good looks attractive? The fact that I need to fly half way around the world to pay farmers daughters to fuck me should give you an idea of my looks, personality and game. I'm a legend in my own mind so it's no surprise that the girls fall in love with me.

The ubiquitous 'age gap relationship' is very much accepted in the Philippines and is perfectly natural amongst foreigners and pinays. We can overlook that it's very rare amongst pinoy and pinays but that's probably an aberration. Young pinays seek similar aged pinoys to knock them up and abandon them. It's typically then that they suddenly find old white guys attractive. I'm sure they, the pinays, are seeking security and maturity rather than a meal ticket and support for their bastard child. Maybe there is a reason that age gaps are far more acceptable to illiterate peasant single moms than educated, intelligent and wealthy girls.

Me? I don't try to over analyse anything and just prefer to pay as I go. It's better not to ask the girls too many questions. Then I'm not disappointed by the answers.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046089]Are you suggesting that 19 yo students may not find my magnetic personality and rugged good looks attractive? The fact that I need to fly half way around the world to pay farmers daughters to fuck me should give you an idea of my looks, personality and game. I'm a legend in my own mind so it's no surprise that the girls fall in love with me.

The ubiquitous 'age gap relationship' is very much accepted in the Philippines and is perfectly natural amongst foreigners and pinays. We can overlook that it's very rare amongst pinoy and pinays but that's probably an aberration. Young pinays seek similar aged pinoys to knock them up and abandon them. It's typically then that they suddenly find old white guys attractive. I'm sure they, the pinays, are seeking security and maturity rather than a meal ticket and support for their bastard child. Maybe there is a reason that age gaps are far more acceptable to illiterate peasant single moms than educated, intelligent and wealthy girls..[/QUOTE]Yes. The old foreigner with young Filipina relationship is tolerated in the Philippines. It is understood that the foreigner old enough to be her grandpa is just a walking ATM, and she will have one or more young Pinoy lovers fucking her on the side. This is the part that they will not tell you. There are plenty of old men on the Tulfo Show who found this out after buying houses, land, and businesses in their Pinay sweetheart's name.

Too many old men come to the Philippines looking to live out Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast' story. They forget some key points about the story. Belle did not willingly agree to stay with the Beast. She was forced to swap places with her father who the Beast had thrown into his dungeon. After all, Belle had her pick of the best men in her village, and she was being wooed by the handsome buff Gaston. The last thing on her mind was fucking a drooling stinky but incredibly rich Beast.

Belle only somewhat softens her revulsion to the Beast after he suffers serious wounds while rescuing her from a pack of rabid wolves. Later on, Gaston shows up at the Beast's lair with a mob and fatally stabs him. As the Beast draws his last breath, the last petal on the enchanted rose falls and Belle relents declaring her love for him. This breaks the curse and he returns to his human form as a prince. Happy ever after follows.

Now, if you are an old foreigner who is actually a handsome young rich Pinoy who was cursed by an enchantress, and you need a passionate root from a beautiful young Pinay to return to your true form, feel free to ignore the warnings. LOL! Still, remember that the Pinay, like Belle, will only fuck you to save her family.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3046107]Yes. The old foreigner with young Filipina relationship is tolerated in the Philippines. It is understood that the foreigner old enough to be her grandpa is just a walking ATM, and she will have one or more young Pinoy lovers fucking her on the side. This is the part that they will not tell you. There are plenty of old men on the Tulfo Show who found this out after buying houses, land, and businesses in their Pinay sweetheart's name.

Too many old men come to the Philippines looking to live out Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast' story. They forget some key points about the story. Belle did not willingly agree to stay with the Beast. She was forced to swap places with her father who the Beast had thrown into his dungeon. After all, Belle had her pick of the best men in her village, and she was being wooed by the handsome buff Gaston. The last thing on her mind was fucking a drooling stinky but incredibly rich Beast.

Belle only somewhat softens her revulsion to the Beast after he suffers serious wounds while rescuing her from a pack of rabid wolves. Later on, Gaston shows up at the Beast's lair with a mob and fatally stabs him. As the Beast draws his last breath, the last petal on the enchanted rose falls and Belle relents declaring her love for him. This breaks the curse and he returns to his human form as a prince. Happy ever after follows.

Now, if you are an old foreigner who is actually a handsome young rich Pinoy who was cursed by an enchantress, and you need a passionate root from a beautiful young Pinay to return to your true form, feel free to ignore the warnings. LOL! Still, remember that the Pinay, like Belle, will only fuck you to save her family.[/QUOTE]Works for me! (and for thousands of others too).

What would be the alternative? Sit in the garage, with the door open, watch the empty street with a beer in hand, waiting to die? It may take a long time, 10-20 years.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3046107]It is understood that the foreigner old enough to be her grandpa is just a walking ATM, and she will have one or more young Pinoy lovers fucking her on the side. This is the part that they will not tell you. There are plenty of old men on the Tulfo Show who found this out after buying houses, land, and businesses in their Pinay sweetheart's name.[/QUOTE]Good post. Of note, I come across a new case of this insanity roughly 1-3 x per year in the province. Usually meeting some new fella in a mall, just saying Hi to some foreigner there. Or the foreigner is passing me sitting at Starbucks and stops to say Hi. Over a coffee he spills the beans on the exact same sob story where he purchased land in her name, then they constructed a home there. Often times he's cashed in his life savings (or his 401 k) for this purpose, leaving him peso-less, save his social security and / or retirement benefit.

Did this happen here in this city? "No, we lived in Xxxxxx city" (a few hours away). "I can't stand living there near her or her thieving family, so I am looking for a fresh start here or anywhere else". Ahh. And you didn't see this coming, the relationship unraveling? "Nah I thought it was fine. Few weeks after we moved into the new place she started to change. It all went to f*ck-all. She left one day and came back with her mother and brother and they wanted me out". I see. After, when they were wanting you out, who appeared to want you gone the most? "Her mother and brother". Did you consider that they might have orchestrated the whole thing? "Ya of course they did. After I got a hotel I started checking the internet and youtube and saw its common". And you only figure out this thing AFTER? "Ya. Didn't see it coming man".

In the days of the Internet, with stories like this scam being told regularly, and vloggers like Reekay and others recounting their own similar experiences for a decade or more, one can ask: How does this keep happening? [B]How much does love (or lust) blind a man? Here is how much: Enough to walk his retirement savings right out of his lap[/B]. I'd like to say that its amazing that it continues. But as it continues, it appears to be a niche market in the Phils economy.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3046107]Still, remember that the Pinay, like Belle, will only fuck you to save her family.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha.

The good news? A lot of pinay's families need saving. Regularly. Weekly. There's a new emergency coming, just around the corner.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3046127]Good post. Of note, I come across a new case of this insanity roughly 1-3 x per year in the province. Usually meeting some new fella in a mall, just saying Hi to some foreigner there. Or the foreigner is passing me sitting at Starbucks and stops to say Hi. Over a coffee he spills the beans on the exact same sob story where he purchased land in her name, then they constructed a home there. Often times he's cashed in his life savings (or his 401 k) for this purpose, leaving him peso-less, save his social security and / or retirement benefit.

Did this happen here in this city? "No, we lived in Xxxxxx city" (a few hours away). "I can't stand living there near her or her thieving family, so I am looking for a fresh start here or anywhere else". Ahh. And you didn't see this coming, the relationship unraveling? "Nah I thought it was fine. Few weeks after we moved into the new place she started to change. It all went to f*ck-all. She left one day and came back with her mother and brother and they wanted me out". I see. After, when they were wanting you out, who appeared to want you gone the most? "Her mother and brother". Did you consider that they might have orchestrated the whole thing? "Ya of course they did. After I got a hotel I started checking the internet and youtube and saw its common". And you only figure out this thing AFTER? "Ya. Didn't see it coming man".

In the days of the Internet, with stories like this scam being told regularly, and vloggers like Reekay and others recounting their own similar experiences for a decade or more, one can ask: How does this keep happening? [B]How much does love (or lust) blind a man? Here is how much: Enough to walk his retirement savings right out of his lap[/B]. I'd like to say that its amazing that it continues. But as it continues, it appears to be a niche market in the Phils economy.

Hahahaha.

The good news? A lot of pinay's families need saving. Regularly. Weekly. There's a new emergency coming, just around the corner.[/QUOTE]And this is why you have to be the conductor playing the orchestra from the shadows.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046082]The best way to arrest a slide in performance is to grab any nearby girl and get back in the game. If that means temporarily dropping standards that's fine. Girls are expert at smelling fear and desperation so the important thing is to get a shot away, rebuild your confidence and continue on. Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Good call G.

Find a good one, keep her in your contacts and utilize her performance at the right price on future visits.

My contact list varies between all visits; however, I always have something guaranteed and lined up whenever I arrive multiple times a year.

And on each visit, I find someone new to add to my rotating list of freelancers that are great in the sack.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3046127]Over a coffee he spills the beans on the exact same sob story where he purchased land in her name, then they constructed a home there. Often times he's cashed in his life savings (or his 401 k) for this purpose, leaving him peso-less, save his social security and / or retirement benefit..[/QUOTE]You left out that he likely sold his home to fund the move. Yes, he sold a dollar denominated, appreciating asset that he can return to. He's also forgone any rental income while he's away. However, he's exchanged it for a depreciating / zero value asset, denominated in a currency subject to wild fluctuations. Said new house was likely built on family land with dubious Title, if any. Good luck getting any resale value even if the family does allow it.

Let's not forget the biggest cost of getting it wrong: Western inflation. Most guys would be down several million dollars if they liquidated all their assets ten years ago and had to buy them back today. Just my house has probably gone up 50% in that time. It would take a lot of idle cash to fill that gap.

And people wonder why I have no compassion for idiots.

Be safe out there. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3046203]Good call G.

Find a good one, keep her in your contacts and utilize her performance at the right price on future visits.

My contact list varies between all visits; however, I always have something guaranteed and lined up whenever I arrive multiple times a year.

And on each visit, I find someone new to add to my rotating list of freelancers that are great in the sack.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks. My original post was more directed to newbies who may be struggling upon arrival but your right, it works for everyone.

To add to your comments, contacts are useful and can bookend trips. I've got girls who can get the phlegm off of my chest immediately upon arrival and others who, while not stunners, can get blood from a stone when my tank is running dry at the end of my trip. Everyone has a different skillset. 😳.

Enjoy. G.

Guys, now I have seen it all. A monger travels around the Philippines wanting girls to fall in love with him and not wanting to fuck hookers. If a girl agrees to meet a foreign guy for no strings short-term compensated sex over two weeks, that makes her a hooker. Good girls do not meet strangers in hotels for hard fucks with no commitment or long-term relationship, but prostitutes do.

Perhaps, there is a niche for old mongers who want to live out their missed teenage years. The girls can offer ultimate girlfriend experience where they pretend to not have been fucked too much. They will "fall in love" with the monger and tell him that he is more handsome than their 21 year-old stud Pinoy boyfriend. All compensation will be collected by a third party so the monger can feel like he is not paying a prostitute. LOL!

Maybe, this type of monger is the reason the old Western Angeles City bars offered "cherry girls" and "permanent bar fine". Some fellas just cannot get a boner unless they believe that they are seducing some innocent provincial farm girl.

I feel a mix of sympathy and exasperation reading these stories. Yeah, the scammers (often the whole family) are predatory and ruthless, exploiting lonely guys (older ones more prone) who just want companionship in retirement. Losing everything like that is brutal—no one deserves it. But man. With the internet full of identical warnings for a decade in multiple forums. It's hard not to think, at some point, due diligence has to kick in. Putting your entire life savings into property titled solely in her name, in a country where foreigners can't own land? That's not just love blinding you—that's ignoring every red flag. Still, I do feel sorry for them. Loneliness is a hell of a drug, and these predators know exactly how to weaponize it. Sad that I keep hearing / reading these stories more and more.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046292]You left out that he likely sold his home to fund the move. Yes, he sold a dollar denominated, appreciating asset that he can return to. He's also forgone any rental income while he's away. However, he's exchanged it for a depreciating / zero value asset, denominated in a currency subject to wild fluctuations. Said new house was likely built on family land with dubious Title, if any. Good luck getting any resale value even if the family does allow it.

Let's not forget the biggest cost of getting it wrong: Western inflation. Most guys would be down several million dollars if they liquidated all their assets ten years ago and had to buy them back today. Just my house has probably gone up 50% in that time. It would take a lot of idle cash to fill that gap.

And people wonder why I have no compassion for idiots.

Be safe out there. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3046455]I feel a mix of sympathy and exasperation reading these stories. Yeah, the scammers (often the whole family) are predatory and ruthless, exploiting lonely guys (older ones more prone) who just want companionship in retirement. Losing everything like that is brutalno one deserves it. But man. With the internet full of identical warnings for a decade in multiple forums. It's hard not to think, at some point, due diligence has to kick in. Putting your entire life savings into property titled solely in her name, in a country where foreigners can't own land? That's not just love blinding youthat's ignoring every red flag. Still, I do feel sorry for them. Loneliness is a hell of a drug, and these predators know exactly how to weaponize it. Sad that I keep hearing / reading these stories more and more.[/QUOTE]True, everyone thinks their girl is different and the horror stories don't apply to them. The trouble is that for every horror story that makes the news there are a hundred silent successful long term relationships. I've got many friends who have lived happily ever after for decades. The guys we've been discussing can't see which category they are going to join.

Your comment about a well worn path to disaster applies equally to the successful ones as well. They both have glaring neon signs as indicators and no one is surprised when they succeed or fail.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046469]True, everyone thinks their girl is different and the horror stories don't apply to them. The trouble is that for every horror story that makes the news there are a hundred silent successful long term relationships. I've got many friends who have lived happily ever after for decades. The guys we've been discussing can't see which category they are going to join.

Your comment about a well worn path to disaster applies equally to the successful ones as well. They both have glaring neon signs as indicators and no one is surprised when they succeed or fail.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Lots of expats where I am, all did the same "mistake" none were scammed so far. Some have young filipinas, some have older filipinas as companions, I don't know if they "wifed" them or not.

Never heard of horror stories, except of the internet.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3046469]True, everyone thinks their girl is different and the horror stories don't apply to them. The trouble is that for every horror story that makes the news there are a hundred silent successful long term relationships. I've got many friends who have lived happily ever after for decades. The guys we've been discussing can't see which category they are going to join.

Your comment about a well worn path to disaster applies equally to the successful ones as well. They both have glaring neon signs as indicators and no one is surprised when they succeed or fail..[/QUOTE]Well said. 1000's of successful relationships. About 8 years ago I had an attempted scam on me. First she was pregnant and then had complications and was hospitalized. Constant request for money.

I asked for proof and she got abusive about not trusting her. This is where I go silent. Then in a day she again angrily ask for help. I reminded her to go to local lab for blood draw pregnancy test. Again she angrily accused me of calling her a liar.

A few days later she says she in a province because of hiding the family shame and doesn't know where a lab is. I stay silent. A week later says she is in hospital and needs money for the hospital. I say send me admission papers. Finally she makes a fake hospital admission slip with a fake hospital name pasted on it. I laugh to myself as I see the Angeles zip code of 2009 on it.

Then constant nagging requests for money guilt me about not caring about her and the baby.

A month later tells me the baby died and need money for the hospital and funeral. I tell her I don't believe you and good bye.

Hard to get scammed if you vet out the information and use common sense.

Other than that one they have been mostly sweethearts.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046486]Lots of expats where I am, all did the same "mistake" none were scammed so far. Some have young filipinas, some have older filipinas as companions, I don't know if they "wifed" them or not.

Never heard of horror stories, except of the internet.[/QUOTE]Chiming in. Same to report here. Know many expats who are settled down with their pinay partner or wife, no such difficulties. Land grabs from rotten filipinas (or their families) are the exception, not the rule. However, all the nice expats that I know here who have purchased such land in her name, are at her mercy. Rose colored glasses or not, the situation is always precarious.

As they say: Its all good. Until its not.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3046503]Chiming in. Same to report here. Know many expats who are settled down with their pinay partner or wife, no such difficulties. Land grabs from rotten filipinas (or their families) are the exception, not the rule. However, all the nice expats that I know here who have purchased such land in her name, are at her mercy. Rose colored glasses or not, the situation is always precarious.

As they say: Its all good. Until its not.[/QUOTE]The expat has his neck in a noose and prays that the Pinay does not kick the chair from under him. He spends the rest of his life on death row. The Pinay and her family holds all the cards, and he must tiptoe on eggshells like a good little lad or else.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3046503]Chiming in. Same to report here. Know many expats who are settled down with their pinay partner or wife, no such difficulties. Land grabs from rotten filipinas (or their families) are the exception, not the rule. However, all the nice expats that I know here who have purchased such land in her name, are at her mercy. Rose colored glasses or not, the situation is always precarious.

As they say: Its all good. Until its not.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking about doing the same "mistake" , because with what I'm paying for rent in 4-5 years I can build a small house with all the necessary amenities. The one I'm renting now imitates the western standards, but was built by monkeys. The only thing holding me back is the frightening thought of settling down.

However if I do it I have a plan: buy it in my GF's name, but lease it from her for 20 years, and have a good lawyer involved to navigate the feudal PH laws, therefore no possible surprises if the "good is not good" anymore.

That might be due to selection bias. Most people tend not to share their failures publicly, while they're happy to gloat about their successes. So the stories we hear in person are often the positive ones, while the horror stories surface more online (where anonymity makes it easier to open up).

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046486]Lots of expats where I am, all did the same "mistake" none were scammed so far. Some have young filipinas, some have older filipinas as companions, I don't know if they "wifed" them or not.

Never heard of horror stories, except of the internet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046536]I'm thinking about doing the same "mistake" , because with what I'm paying for rent in 4-5 years I can build a small house with all the necessary amenities. The one I'm renting now imitates the western standards, but was built by monkeys. The only thing holding me back is the frightening thought of settling down.

However if I do it I have a plan: buy it in my GF's name, but lease it from her for 20 years, and have a good lawyer involved to navigate the feudal PH laws, therefore no possible surprises if the "good is not good" anymore.[/QUOTE]It's all very risky Ugly and the Phil's legal system is surprising to say the least.

Not that I'm really in a position to offer advice, but I have been told, that buying a condo can be done in your name.

You may have to check the legals on that.

_ Phil.

My point is why buy the property in someone else's name who is just a girl friend, whereas I fully agree if you marry her then buying under her name make sense. I would rather invest that money in some high yielding dividend stocks and use it to pay off your rent using the dividend.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046536]
However if I do it I have a plan: buy it in my GF's name, but lease it from her for 20 years, and have a good lawyer involved to navigate the feudal PH laws, therefore no possible surprises if the "good is not good" anymore.[/QUOTE]I do like your idea of leasing it back from your GF, not sure how feasible it is as I am not sure about the laws in PH.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046536]I'm thinking about doing the same "mistake" , because with what I'm paying for rent in 4-5 years I can build a small house with all the necessary amenities. The one I'm renting now imitates the western standards, but was built by monkeys. The only thing holding me back is the frightening thought of settling down.

However if I do it I have a plan: buy it in my GF's name, but lease it from her for 20 years, and have a good lawyer involved to navigate the feudal PH laws, therefore no possible surprises if the "good is not good" anymore.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3046578]My point is why buy the property in someone else's name who is just a girl friend, whereas I fully agree if you marry her then buying under her name make sense. I would rather invest that money in some high yielding dividend stocks and use it to pay off your rent using the dividend.

I do like your idea of leasing it back from your GF, not sure how feasible it is as I am not sure about the laws in PH.[/QUOTE]The property you lease can be anyone's, not just your GF. That way if the relationship doesn't work out, the girl is out (not you). Generally the lease will be valid for the contractual time. [B]Lawyer suggested[/B]. Also keep in mind that Phils has a common-law marriage system for non-married partners, making each responsible for the couple's assets and debts.

It's just an idea, probably nothing will materialize out of it, as I run out of fresh pussy here. There is plenty of unexplored ones, but mostly fat ones or at least said chubby, I just tried one the other day, and on top of being chubby, was also a starfish, I wonder how my dick stayed up for the whole duration of the session. The BJ was good.

Also right now I'm dealing with a dog infestation, one neighbor has 10 and the other ones follow close in numbers. Every time I'm going out there are a hundred dogs sleeping on my front terrace on the furniture, even on the table. The dogs are even dumber than the owners, I kick them, and they have no reaction, just look at me with an imbecilic sight, if that's possible for an animal.

If it was rats would have been easier to deal with them, poison being the solution, but I can't do that to the fucking dogs. Right now I'm conducting chemical warfare betting on their sensitive sense of smell, I'm not sure will work, the ultrasound contraptions that I had tried before, doesn't seem to affect them, only my GF was complaining about it, apparently she can hear as high as 20 KHz. My old concerts battered ears go only up to about 12 KHz, then is all silence. I apologize to all the animal lovers here, but right now I hate the fucking for legged creatures, and their owners even more.

I didn't feed them, they helped themselves from my garbage bags in the far corner of the yard, but for some unknown reason they think that I'm their master, or something along that line. The dogs are barking at everybody passing by on the beach "protecting" me, and they started to bring me shoes from the neighbors, today I even got somebody's door mat.

Tonight I sprayed all the furniture with bug spray, and I think they don't like the smell, because I just checked and there is no dog on my patio.

Tomorrow I'm buying 5 more cans of cheap bug spray.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046737]I didn't feed them, they helped themselves from my garbage bags in the far corner of the yard, but for some unknown reason they think that I'm their master, or something along that line. The dogs are barking at everybody passing by on the beach "protecting" me, and they started to bring me shoes from the neighbors, today I even got somebody's door mat.

Tonight I sprayed all the furniture with bug spray, and I think they don't like the smell, because I just checked and there is no dog on my patio.

Tomorrow I'm buying 5 more cans of cheap bug spray.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thespruce.com/use-dog-repellents-2132575[/URL]

You might find this link useful. I don't like all this humane stuff, like they object to some smell or other (they lick each other's arses ffs). My probme is mice under wooden floorboards and coming in through the garage, as I'll soon be back in Angeles. I have found sirens and smells useless and I have found the old reliable mouse trap the best.

I have a pole of rat poison and there are neghbours with dogs I don't like.

I did make my own bone meal and gave it to neghbours for fertiliser. Dogs immediately went for it.

Secure your garbage in a bin and drown the place in white vinegar. You could always divert them elsewhere, perhaps to some widow who won't 3 sum with you.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3046737]I didn't feed them, they helped themselves from my garbage bags in the far corner of the yard, but for some unknown reason they think that I'm their master, or something along that line. The dogs are barking at everybody passing by on the beach "protecting" me, and they started to bring me shoes from the neighbors, today I even got somebody's door mat.

Tonight I sprayed all the furniture with bug spray, and I think they don't like the smell, because I just checked and there is no dog on my patio.

Tomorrow I'm buying 5 more cans of cheap bug spray.[/QUOTE]Airsoft guns at half pressure. You're not trying to kill any thing just a really good scare.

Works great for stray cats on heat too.

Don't ask me how I know. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3046748][URL]https://www.thespruce.com/use-dog-repellents-2132575[/URL]

You might find this link useful. I don't like all this humane stuff, like they object to some smell or other (they lick each other's arses ffs). My probme is mice under wooden floorboards and coming in through the garage, as I'll soon be back in Angeles. I have found sirens and smells useless and I have found the old reliable mouse trap the best.

I have a pole of rat poison and there are neghbours with dogs I don't like.

I did make my own bone meal and gave it to neghbours for fertiliser. Dogs immediately went for it.

Secure your garbage in a bin and drown the place in white vinegar. You could always divert them elsewhere, perhaps to some widow who won't 3 sum with you.[/QUOTE]Cannot "gift" the dogs away, they're not mine, only they think so, and anyway the whole island is infested by them, owned and strays. No cats.

I have 4 trash bins, the biggest you can find here, but they are about the size of a big indoor one in the US, so they fill up pretty quick, especially that the trash collection times and days are a strongly guarded state secret here, so the trash is overflowing pretty quick, and the bags get ripped open by the vicious 4 legged creatures as soon as it gets dark.

Everybody seems to be just fine, with the trash, and the fucking dogs. If the bug spray works and they stay away from my patio I will settle for that.

[URL]https://manilastandard.net/news/314691721/russian-vlogger-vitaly-to-be-deported-dilg.html[/URL]#google_vignette.

[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2026/01/15/2501184/russian-vlogger-vitaly-be-deported-after-serving-his-time[/URL]

The above two stories are about a Russian vlogger who is being deported to Russia after serving his prison term. There is another asshole going around the Philippines and Thailand, asking women if they are ladies or ladyboys. Amd giving them a present, which is a condom. Let's hope he gets the same treatment.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3047514][URL]https://manilastandard.net/news/314691721/russian-vlogger-vitaly-to-be-deported-dilg.html[/URL]#google_vignette.

[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2026/01/15/2501184/russian-vlogger-vitaly-be-deported-after-serving-his-time[/URL]

The above two stories are about a Russian vlogger who is being deported to Russia after serving his prison term. There is another asshole going around the Philippines and Thailand, asking women if they are ladies or ladyboys. Amd giving them a present, which is a condom. Let's hope he gets the same treatment.[/QUOTE]Vitaly must of paid a tonne of cash to be released. It looked like they were going to lock him up and throw away the key there for a while and it was totally justifies given his actions. Personally, I would have preferred to see him held for a loooong time but someone from the BI / PNP must have decided to cash out. A shame really.

Simmi from Prolife Traveller was also arrested, declared Persona Non Grata and "self deported" after posting many sketchy videos around Duma.

Nuisance or Prank vloggers get no sympathy from me.

Here is another one from Estonia that did similar stuff, this one is the talk of the filipinos today:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/26265127956426023[/URL]

I hope they arrest some of the fuckers that go filming up and down Red Street in AC, putting everybody's marital situation in danger. Or at least somebody should punch them in the face.

Hi, has anyone had an experience in both Butuan and General Santos cities? I just rented an apartment in Davao for a month, then I would like to move to another city for another month.

Where is it easier to meet?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048019]Hi, has anyone had an experience in both Butuan and General Santos cities? I just rented an apartment in Davao for a month, then I would like to move to another city for another month.

Where is it easier to meet?[/QUOTE]Joe's first tip of the day.

Read this user-initiated thread from the ISG Philippines section, titled "General Santo City disaster":

[URL]www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4392-General-Santo-City-disaster[/URL]

Check out TexasPistol's posts from 9-02-24. This guy is your clone, as he attempted to traverse the same route and gameplan as you. It apparently did not end well.

Several readers provided meaningful feedback posts. Read them.

My recommendation:

Print a map of the Philippines on a legal-sized piece of paper. Attach it to a dart board. Pick up a dart, close your eyes, and throw. Look for a medium-sized city closest to where the dart lands. Make reservations and just go.

Plenty of guys here have been trying to iterate to you that in 2026, there's no magic undiscovered gem of a city that is full of online women looking for low-reward and limited-future relationships with senior citizens like us.

I'm not saying you can't have success. But it's going to depend on luck and how well you can sell yourself.

Many of us have told you over and over again that finding an ONLINE GAL who will provide you the experience you desire is not easy. But I'm of the belief there are still many REAL-WORLD GALS who would love the chance to brighten up their dreary lives by shacking up with you for a couple of weeks. Therefore, I give you:

Joe's second tip:

I meet and sometimes bang a fair number of semi-desperate and relatively young ladies in northeastern Mindanao cities. The key is to meet them while they are working at menial jobs, like as kiosk-minders at the outdoor fruit and vegetable markets, sales clerks at low budget downtown retail stores, and cooking and serving staff at small eateries. All are poorly paid, have little money for frills, and have very little contact with foreigners.

One common theme is they don't have smart phones. Many have never owned one because of the price. Or they had it, lost or broke it, and can't afford to replace it. They exist using old-style keypad phones or go through life without digital contact.

Smartphone women have realized in the past decade that they have oodles of options. Female worker-bees with analog phones who are toiling at super-shitty jobs have few prospects. With a little work, you can capitalize on their desperation.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what Philippine city you visit. Just be willing to be a bit adventurous. Take a trike and hike around the wet markets. Walk around downtown commercial areas and stop at the small shops. Eat meals at small eateries (carendarias) that appear to have cute servers. Be friendly, smile, and initiate conversation. Don't dress like a beach bum.

The potential for success is pretty good, no matter where you go.

BTW, since you'll already be in Davao, give it a try at the city's market areas. Search for "Public Market Davao" in Google Maps for locations and wear some comfortable shoes.

Joe's third tip:

General Santos is quite far from Davao City. A closer option is Tagum City, population 300,000 (same as Butuan City). Located about a 2-hour bus ride northeast of Davao. Has 4 good-sized shopping malls and is relatively easy to traverse by trike or multi-cab. I visit a couple of times each year and rarely see foreigners at the malls.

Book a couple of nights at the JRJF Hotel near the Tagum City bus terminal. Airconditioned rooms for between $10-20 USA per night. You get what you pay for, but your basic needs are covered. Vegetable and used clothing markets are within walking distance for your daytime flirting.

Nightclubs and videoke bars are nearby so you can have some fun engaging with the groups of female customers if you strike out during the day. Once you meet a suitable gal, go online and upgrade your lodging.

If you get tired of Tagum City, hop on the bus and head to Panabo City (population 150,000). The bus passes through it on the route between Davao and Tagum.

Or if you want to head south, stay a few days in Digos City (population 200,000), located on the national highway toward General Santos.

Joe's summary:

I've lived in the Philippines for 12 years. I'm convinced that there's significant foreigner fatigue in the larger cities.

JonesLover, you're planning on spending a couple of months here on your trip. Get out and do some exploring. Try some medium-sized cities (150 to 300,000 population) and hit the pavement. Turn on your charm switch and go for it.

You have no idea how much I liked your post.

You finally answered me comprehensively. Maybe I'm retarded hehehehe but only now do I fully understand how my behavior should be in the Philippines. Honestly, I don't have the right character to be the first to strike up a conversation on the street, but going to supermarkets or open markets, buying something from those desperate girls would be easier for me to talk to.

But if I fully understand what you are telling me, I can stay in Davao even for 2 months. In fact, the city is very large, with many markets and many other options. So I could also do without moving to other smaller cities if I didn't feel like it.

However I accept all your advice, but I have to correct you on ONE. You told me that Butuan is a 2 hour bus ride from Davao. Unfortunately, Butuan is slightly further from Gagayan de Oro from Davao. A bus from CDO to Davao takes 11 hours, I tell you this with utmost certainty.

Anyway, thanks for your valuable suggestions.

Apologies, I misread your post about the Davao-Butuan distance. You meant Davao-Tagum.

OK, however I must say that I read your detailed post with great attention and interest and I will do what I have read.

I think I'll do it this way:

In the month that I will be in Davao I would like to visit Tagum for one or two days (maybe I will go with a scooter). I will test the waters and if I can find some girls I will keep her "warm" for when I go to Tagum after Davao. I would like to stay in Tagum for many days because I believe it is really a fertile field. But maybe in those two days I will also be able to find a girl who likes to come to Davao to stay with me for a few days. You never know. The only problem is that I have never struck a button first with a girl on the street or in the market, and maybe I will find myself in difficulty. This is because I will also have many eyes on me while I talk to them. Maybe a card with my Whatsapp is the best thing. Ahahahaha.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048271]Maybe a card with my Whatsapp is the best thing. Ahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Market girls likely won't even have WhatsApp. It's only used by girls who regularly talk to foreigners.

Have FB preloaded and ask her to show you her profile on her phone or, even better, find it on yours. Don't just ask her name. There are a million Mary Rose's and you will never find the right one.

Message her later as this saves her the embarrassment of being seen talking to a foreigner for extended time and written chats are often a lot more comfortable for girls with basic English.

Unfortunately, a couple of days may not be enough so expect "where did you go" messages the day after you left town. 😭.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3048193]

BTW, since you'll already be in Davao, give it a try at the city's market areas. Search for "Public Market Davao" in Google Maps for locations and wear some comfortable shoes.

[/QUOTE]Davao has the famous Night Markets right in the centre of Poblacion. You can't miss it.

The front has all the BBQs and eateries mostly serving families and young couples. Very nice meals but the chances of scoring a lone girl are very low. Continue walking and there are tents of ukiuki stores selling cheap second hand clothes and seemingly endless phone covers, chargers and useless novelties. These are much more suitable.

It's a good night out and you never know your luck.

Enjoy. G.

Philippines introduces new 25% withholding and 12% Value added taxes on Foreign Online Service providers including online booking platforms and tour operators.

[URL]https://youtu.be/NZdQ6Rtlx5k?si=dzd88VH4rphBrTWf[/URL]

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3048318]Market girls likely won't even have WhatsApp. It's only used by girls who regularly talk to foreigners.

Have FB preloaded and ask her to show you her profile on her phone or, even better, find it on yours. Don't just ask her name. There are a million Mary Rose's and you will never find the right one.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately at the market I can have 1000 eyes on me while I'm talking to a girl; especially if I use my smartphone to ask her for her FB.

All this scares me a little, also because I have never spoken to a girl on the street to make advances.

I was thinking of leaving these girls a note with my FB profile. Do you think it's wrong?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048386]Unfortunately at the market I can have 1000 eyes on me while I'm talking to a girl; especially if I use my smartphone to ask her for her FB.

All this scares me a little, also because I have never spoken to a girl on the street to make advances.

I was thinking of leaving these girls a note with my FB profile. Do you think it's wrong?[/QUOTE]Scared of people watching you interact with humans in public?

My God, have you spent the last 30 years living under a rock? Your social life being solely a keyboard Romeo on social and dating websites?

Come on, buddy. You've previously visited the Philippines many times. It's the friendliest country in the world. Yes, you'll be a bit of a curiosity while pounding the pavement on the sidewalks and alleyways around the barangay and city markets, low-budget dry-goods stands, and small department stores.

Bystanders will glance and may silently judge, then quickly forget you. Nobody cares. Nobody is going to confront you about shamelessly conversing and lightly flirting with barely-legal workers. Unless you can't control yourself and reach out for some public boob squeezing.

I have the feeling you strike out so much in the online world is because your intentions are made too quickly and aggressively for the majority of non-prostitutes. It's going to be much of the same with these local girls if you don't tone down your approach.

Tell them you're here on a holiday but open to finding a girlfriend and possibly a wife. You don't trust online women, so you are hoping to just find a nice normal girl who wants a simple life with a caring partner.

Talk for a couple of minutes, then mention you're a little hungry and want to go buy some snacks. Ask if she would like something too. Take her with you, or bring back some chips and keep chatting.

After a while, ask if she would like to meet sometime for lunch or dinner to talk more. Exchange contact information or arrange to meet somewhere conveniently located.

It ain't that hard with these lower-class gals. Yeah, you're going to strike out much of the time. But that's how it is in the hunt for the snatch.

Be polite and friendly. Act as a caring and understanding person. Gain her trust. Then move in for the kill.

Remember, this is the International Sex Guide, not the International Love Them Then Leave Them Guide.

Most of us aren't actively pursuing two-week f*ck toys. We pay money with the expectation that they'll happily hit the road in an hour or the next morning.

Lastly, you're a moron if you sit around your hotel room at night, moaning and sulking about not finding what you want. Every town and city has areas with low to medium-budget videokes and restobars with potential victims. Oops, candidates. Any trike or taxi driver will be happy to take you there.

You'll be spending thousands of dollars on this trip. If you end a day without any female prospects, go outside searching for fun. Conversations with a table of tipsy-drunk regular gals while sharing liter bottles of San Miguel or Red Horse has got to be better than moping alone in your lonely rented room.

Lastly, while in Davao, don't waste your time trying to pick up a salesgirl at the major malls, because lots of foreigners try their luck there. You want the smaller and more run-down commercial outlets. Top low-budget department stores that have few foreign shoppers are the Felcris and NCCC stores. Check for them on Google Maps.

Unfortunately, the Victoria Plaza, my favorite low-end mall in Davao City, closed its doors for good on January 1. Very sad, as the salesgirls in the Victoria Department Store wore the shortest mini skirts of any mall-gals in the Phils.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048386]Unfortunately at the market I can have 1000 eyes on me while I'm talking to a girl; especially if I use my smartphone to ask her for her FB.

All this scares me a little, also because I have never spoken to a girl on the street to make advances.

I was thinking of leaving these girls a note with my FB profile. Do you think it's wrong?[/QUOTE]I think it is wrong you making it this complicated to talk to a chick.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048386]Unfortunately at the market I can have 1000 eyes on me while I'm talking to a girl; especially if I use my smartphone to ask her for her FB.

All this scares me a little, also because I have never spoken to a girl on the street to make advances.

I was thinking of leaving these girls a note with my FB profile. Do you think it's wrong?[/QUOTE]Why is this a problem? It's a good thing. If good girls only see you with $20 crack hoes then they will not want to be put in the same basket and will not interact with you at all. If they see you talking, eating or walking with other normal girls, they will be reassured that they can meet or at least talk to you with no issues.

Time to grow a pair and pull on your big boy pants. Philippinas everywhere are very approachable.

It's a bad idea. It places the emphasis on her to contact you rather than you taking the lead and making contact. Provincial Philippinas are very traditional. They expect to be persued. It's not their role to be assertive and chase a guy. In extreme cases, notes and phone numbers from random old guys can be found by boyfriends, husband's, father's etc with bad outcomes.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3048514]

Unfortunately, the Victoria Plaza, my favorite low-end mall in Davao City, closed its doors for good on January 1. [/QUOTE]No good. Any idea why? Business collapse or closed for redevelopment? It's an old building in a great location.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3048523]Why is this a problem? It's a good thing. If good girls only see you with $20 crack hoes then they will not want to be put in the same basket and will not interact with you at all. If they see you talking, eating or walking with other normal girls, they will be reassured that they can meet or at least talk to you with no issues.

Time to grow a pair and pull on your big boy pants. Philippinas everywhere are very approachable.

It's a bad idea. It places the emphasis on her to contact you rather than you taking the lead and making contact. Provincial Philippinas are very traditional. They expect to be persued. It's not their role to be assertive and chase a guy. In extreme cases, notes and phone numbers from random old guys can be found by boyfriends, husband's, father's etc with bad outcomes..[/QUOTE]You mean these Filipino fellas are not going to be thrilled to find out that Brad Pitt is in town handing out meet and fuck notes to their girls? It could be an interesting social experiment. We could get to see the reaction of the barangay captain and his tanod after an old foreign Romeo slips his daughter an invitation to come over to his rented flat for a casual two-week fuck fest. I am sure that he would be totally understanding that lover boy just wants to root his princess for a couple of weeks before he takes off to his next foreign adventure. He might even throw in her sister just so lover boy can have a famous Filipino threesome without breaking his budget. After all, Filipinos are known worldwide for showing foreigners their legendary hospitality.

Thank you all for the information and your heartfelt advice.

They will be very useful to me. I have never behaved as you suggested. I will try everything you told me. I'll go and then post. Even if I'm not looking for "hit and run" sex like the overwhelming majority of you are looking for. I am looking for a girl who can stay with me at least 7-10 days. I hope these are also in the pile.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3048526]No good. Any idea why? Business collapse or closed for redevelopment? It's an old building in a great location.

G.[/QUOTE]Article says the Robinson's Corporation bought it and plans to erect a 9-story office building by 2027. Great location, but it's outlived its usefulness as it was structurally deficient and positioned so close to the newer Abreeza and Big G malls.

[URL]https://mindanews.com/business/2025/12/davaos-victoria-plaza-closes-after-32-years/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3048532]You mean these Filipino fellas are not going to be thrilled to find out that Brad Pitt is in town handing out meet and fuck notes to their girls? It could be an interesting social experiment. We could get to see the reaction of the barangay captain and his tanod after an old foreign Romeo slips his daughter an invitation to come over to his rented flat for a casual two-week fuck fest. I am sure that he would be totally understanding that lover boy just wants to root his princess for a couple of weeks before he takes off to his next foreign adventure. He might even throw in her sister just so lover boy can have a famous Filipino threesome without breaking his budget. After all, Filipinos are known worldwide for showing foreigners their legendary hospitality.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Years ago there was a guy doing exactly that. I think it was in Greenbelt. Princess got scared went home and gave the note to Dad who messaged and feigned a meet up. Not with said daughter but with several far less attractive guys dressed in blue. Very To Catch a Predator-esque. You can guess how it all ended. Not pretty.

To take the other extreme, Bong Bong the resident trike driver might also be elated that his girlfriend returns with mucho deniro, cigarettes and bottles of Tanduay. Life couldn't be better.

Name cards can work but you have to be 100% certain that they will be well received.

G.

I like perving. Wish I could change my nickname at ISG to Perving Irving.

So, what's a perv? ISG has not yet posted a definition. For me, it's a guy who, while at a girlie bar, is not looking for intercourse as much as he is seeking onsite verbal and tactile attention with a playful hostess.

It can be done either seated at a table or sitting alone together in a locked VIP room. I rarely pay a bar fine to whisk a girl away because most nights, I get what I need while sitting on a white plastic chair.

I'm an old guy whose libido doesn't consistently boil like it used to. Some nights I want to f*ck, and I have a local network of gals in my Philippine city of residence, along with the knowledge of where to find short-time relief in other towns.

But most nights, I want to go out and be a perv. Buy inflated-priced "lady's drinks" (LD) for a sexy-dressed gal and watch her get progressively drunker and more brazen while, depending on the type of venue, we either watch dancers or sing songs from a kareoke machine.

Start with handholding and chatting. Then she puts her arms around my shoulder and swings her chair around to sit more comfortably while positioning her sexy high-heeled and short-skirted legs over the top of my lap. Cuddles closer and lays her head on my shoulder. Begins to rub my upper thigh and nibble on my ear.

During beer #3-4, she starts to caress my cock through my pants, and we unabashedly begin making out for all to see. Depending on the bar and the girl, she'll probably whip out a breast for me to touch and nipple for me to lick. As I gently rub the inside of her thigh, she may spread her legs and pull my fingers under her panties to explore. Once in a while, she will reciprocate by running her hand under my cargo shorts and start jacking me off. Sometimes I'll explode, but usually I just sit there at full mast, enjoying the attention.

No pressure to bar fine. No annoying mamasan shoehorning herself into our activities. Just us sitting there for a couple of hours, me buying 3,4,5, or 6 LD's and basking in the attention of a fairly attractive gal who seems genuinely into me and is not shy about disapproving eyes from bystanders.

The degree of perving I receive is dependent on how comfortable the girl is with me. Luckily, I'm a decent-looking guy who dresses well. I like to talk, laugh, joke, engage in meaningful conversations with asking questions about the girl and her life. It's amazing how many partners say that I am not like most foreigner customers, because I come across as unexpectedly fun and friendly. Plus, they say my English-speaking is easy to understand, as I attempt to speak slowly and clearly in my American-accented diction.

So, it doesn't take long for them to get comfy and let the alcohol soak in to steer the night down a friendly path. Some nights I blow my wad out in the open, and some nights I'll offer to pay for the VIP room, where the action gets hotter and I'll use the condom that I always carry in my wallet. Money is not an issue for me when perving. I just want to have fun and naturally see how far things can go.

Sometimes, I depart the bar basking in the glow of a fun night yet still feeling hot from not ejaculating. Oh well. If I'm in a big Mindanao city or at a club in the Colon district of Cebu, it's pretty easy to find a nearby streetwalker to cap off my night. Not my preferred option, but a P250 short-time room and my condom do the job.

Lots of you guys don't understand the logic of spending a good sum of money at a bar without getting laid. I understand your skepticism.

It's a lot easier in the Philippines to get laid than it is to have a successful perving night. Any guy who's armed with enough money and the knowledge of where to pick up hookers (online or in person) can get laid.

But to a degree, perving is an art form. It can't be forced on or automatically purchased from a gal. Not all bars allow it. It's best in dimly lit hostess clubs with semi-secluded tables. Plus, the more times I visit a particular club, the more action takes place, as there's familiarity with repeat customers.

In a way, I enjoy the challenge and the suspense. Makes me feel validated that I'm still desirable by at least a few women much younger than me.

I don't like giving away the names of my favorite bars, as I like being a big foreigner fish in small ponds.

But when I stay in the Manila area, my go-to perving club is the Bang Bang Ali strip joint in Cubao, Quezon City.

It's a Filipino-centric bar, with relatively few foreign visitors. The upstairs "fun" area has been closed down, so no private rooms. Nude dancing on two stages. No extra charge to sit at the seating area that circumvents the main stage, which I call the "Meat Rack'.

My eyes are always wandering in a bar, so I've spotted plenty of smooching, pelvic grinding, and tittie-groping at the other tables.

Customer beers are an initial purchase of two for P250, then P125 for the next ones. Lady's drinks are P350, and consist of bottles of Beer na Beer, none of the watered-down crap they serve at many foreigner-centric clubs. No entry fee.

No bar fining policy, unfortunately. Over the years, a couple of hostesses have offered to go home with me at closing time. But I would have to wait until 4 am, which is way too late for this guy.

As in most strip joints that cater to mostly Filipino customers, the women are average at best in looks. Chunky, clunky, and junky. If you require a hottie, don't bother coming.

Middling girls are fine as long as they give me the attention I deserve. Your mileage may vary, but I never fail to reach my perving pinnacle there.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048545]Thank you all for the information and your heartfelt advice.

They will be very useful to me. I have never behaved as you suggested. I will try everything you told me. I'll go and then post. Even if I'm not looking for "hit and run" sex like the overwhelming majority of you are looking for. I am looking for a girl who can stay with me at least 7-10 days. I hope these are also in the pile.[/QUOTE]7-10 days still "hit and run", and still taxable by the day.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3048646]I like perving. Wish I could change my nickname at ISG to Perving Irving.

....

As in most strip joints that cater to mostly Filipino customers, the women are average at best in looks. Chunky, clunky, and junky. If you require a hottie, don't bother coming.

Middling girls are fine as long as they give me the attention I deserve. Your mileage may vary, but I never fail to reach my perving pinnacle there.[/QUOTE]Joe,

My sympathies but remember you are not alone. I have been sober for a while but I too have Pervisimis and Reoccurant Butterface Attraction Disorder.

BAD can be particularly cruel because of ridicule from, and being ostracised by, those closest to us. This is likely why you have resorted to out of the the way clubs etc where you will not be recognised by friends and associates. Unfortunately once spotted by one friend, gossip and stories of one's condition is spread quickly. I can remember one particularly savage time when I was outed when a truly hideous past conquest came across to offer a repeat ride while I was drinking with a group of friends. That was years ago and, to this day, they still regularly remind me of my past indiscretions.

My last outbreak of Pervisimis was actually my last day in country when I stumbled across a pole dancer but could not and did not barfine her. Note that Pole Dancer Addiction, BAD and Pervisimis share a particularly savage but common comorbidity. I have struggles with PDA for decades now, try my best, but they appear at the most unexpected times and I often succumb.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3009015]

Then. They. Brought. Out. The. Pole. Dancers.

Now, I've been sober for ten years but I have to confess: My name is G and I've been addicted to pole dancers for 30 years. I spot 80 lbs of walking probable cause. 5' flat. Wearing 8" hooker heels. Covered in tramp stamps. Eyes that scream psychopath.
...
The VIP room not an option, she gets back to work on me. More tits. More tongue down my throat. More grabbing my tool. Hands down the panties suddenly becomes allowed and a finger is in her pussy. She spins around to face away from me. My hands are roaming everywhere. Her long toned legs stand up, she bends over and her ass is in the air bouncing around inches away from my face. Eating her out there and then is too obvious. I pull her g string to the side and she backs up to be more hidden inside the booth. My hand massages her butt and my thumb finds her ass hole. No complaints. She starts swaying back and forth, backing up harder on my thumb. Nothing vicious but soon thumb fucking a strippers ass inside the open bar is added to the list of life achievements. She thrusts a few times but doesn't let it continue forever. She brings the fun to an end by turning back around to face me and straddle my hips again. Back to a face full of tits and swapping saliva.

I wise up and decide that that's enough and it's time to quit while I'm ahead. She's not allowed to give her number out in the bar so it's too blatant for her to type directly into my phone's contacts. She calls over a waitress and writes her a note. I pay the bill and get that note with the change. Whether it's real or not, who knows but it's a number to keep for when I'm back. 4 k worth of drinks and good times.

I Grab home at 5 am after 'just a quiet drink'.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]When I'm back in town, maybe we can catch up. Who knows? If the time is right and we are both ready, we can help each other overcome these demons. If not, then no one will be around to see a hell of a relapse and bender. Like you, I know of several hidden places and dark corners where one's fantasies can come true. 😁.

Stay strong. G.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3048663]Joe,

My sympathies but remember you are not alone. I have been sober for a while but I too have Pervisimis and Reoccurant Butterface Attraction Disorder.

BAD can be particularly cruel because of ridicule from, and being ostracised by, those closest to us. This is likely why you have resorted to out of the the way clubs etc where you will not be recognised by friends and associates. Unfortunately once spotted by one friend, gossip and stories of one's condition is spread quickly. I can remember one particularly savage time when I was outed when a truly hideous past conquest came across to offer a repeat ride while I was drinking with a group of friends. That was years ago and, to this day, they still regularly remind me of my past indiscretions.

My last outbreak of Pervisimis was actually my last day in country when I stumbled across a pole dancer but could not and did not barfine her. Note that Pole Dancer Addiction, BAD and Pervisimis share a particularly savage but common comorbidity. I have struggles with PDA for decades now, try my best, but they appear at the most unexpected times and I often succumb.

When I'm back in town, maybe we can catch up. Who knows? If the time is right and we are both ready, we can help each other overcome these demons. If not, then no one will be around to see a hell of a relapse and bender. Like you, I know of several hidden places and dark corners where one's fantasies can come true. 😁.

Stay strong. G.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]In AC if you rent an apartment from Doctor A behind Astropark on 3rd st and C st, they come equipped with a small stage, and a dancing pole, surrounded by mirrors, all the girls that I brought in there had a fascination with the pole, and were spinning naked on it. This may be up your alley.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSL-oO3yg9w[/URL]

Filipina Pea is back. [I]10 More Things You Never Say To A Filipina. We Hate These![/I].

1:20 "We have a real problem separating fantasy from reality". [B]She said it, not me[/B].

5:02 "Never say: Shouldn't we be using a condom?" [B]Reasons: *They don't feel good (for the girl also). *A condom is a form of rejection for the girl. *Its calling the girl dirty (diseased). *Birth control is a sin. *Secretly wants your baby[/B].

8:12 "Never use sarcasm. Filipinas have no sense of sarcasm. We don't use it. We can't spot it. We assume that every word you say literally means exactly what you said".

8:42 "We don't understand analogy. We don't understand hyperbole. Same for idioms".

9:38 "Ours (humor) is more visual and slapstick. What you call teasing, we call bullying".

11:07 "In case you didn't know, being reasonable is not a filipina strong suit".

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3048657]7-10 days still "hit and run", and still taxable by the day.[/QUOTE]Mr Ugly,

Agreed.

JL,

7-10 days is just LLT. Rates are the equivalent of a ST paid every day.

In the province 10 k per week is more than sufficient. There would be plenty of takers.

Don't overthink things. Go have a good time.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3048694][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSL-oO3yg9w[/URL]

Filipina Pea is back. [I]10 More Things You Never Say To A Filipina. We Hate These![/I].

1:20 "We have a real problem separating fantasy from reality". [B]She said it, not me[/B].

5:02 "Never say: Shouldn't we be using a condom?" [B]Reasons: *They don't feel good (for the girl also). *A condom is a form of rejection for the girl. *Its calling the girl dirty (diseased). *Birth control is a sin. *Secretly wants your baby[/B].

8:12 "Never use sarcasm. Filipinas have no sense of sarcasm. We don't use it. We can't spot it. We assume that every word you say literally means exactly what you said"..[/QUOTE]Being with a Filipina for many days is often boring. You can't laugh, you can't joke, you can't do or say what you think, otherwise he gets angry. In fact, almost no Filipina can understand how much you are joking. It takes everything as true. So you have to change your way of being and this annoys me a lot. But then the Filipina repays you with a mixture of her warmth, sluttiness, kindness and sweetness.

I met a girl from near Davao who understood me immediately. But it only happened once. She was a 25 year old girl who was so passionate about me that she longed to meet me again. I remember that once I was in Cagayan de Oro and I sent her a greeting. She was drooling just to see me on cam even for just 5 minutes. When I opened the camera she was almost teary-eyed with happiness. But then I had a girl who was more beautiful than her, even if much less sweet. Eheheheheh.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3048775]Mr Ugly,

Agreed.

JL,

7-10 days is just LLT. Rates are the equivalent of a ST paid every day.

In the province 10 k per week is more than sufficient. There would be plenty of takers.

Don't overthink things. Go have a good time.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Mine eventually may be called long term, it entered the 4th year, but it only lasted this long because was played by my rules, and even so I take time off now and then, to be able to keep my sanity.

Here is an interesting article that may explain why most of us that are in SEA now, started to grow their pubic hair in the 70-90's, from [URL]rt.com[/URL] (Yes, I do read what russians have to say also, not only the americans):

"I came of age in the 1990's, when sex was everywhere. Not just in private life, but in public space. Advertising ran on the formula that sex sells. Some products logically lent themselves to erotic imagery; others did not. Yet a sexualized female body could be used to sell almost anything, including a glass of water. Newspapers, car magazines, even publications about the paranormal carried nude photo shoots. Television, long before late-night hours, included bedroom scenes as routine. Youth series revolved around the first sexual experience. Schools distributed brochures about contraception. Words once whispered were now spoken on air: orgasm, masturbation, intercourse.

The message was clear. Sex was not only normal. It was valuable, exciting, a permanent feature of modern life.

Thirty years later, we are told, almost casually, that sex is overrated.

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This is not anecdotal. Surveys reflect a real shift. Research by the NAFI analytical center shows that 22% of people aged 18 to 25 are not sexually active. More than half of respondents report problems in their intimate lives. Forty percent cannot discuss sexual issues with their partner. Large numbers report dissatisfaction, lack of desire, or pain. Among women, the figures are especially stark.

More revealing still are value rankings. Among people in long-term relationships, sex comes last on the list of what is necessary for well-being. For many young people, it does not appear as a value at all. Health, money, status, travel, peace of mind. Now these dominate. Sex has slipped off the agenda.

Given how problematized the intimate sphere has become, this is hardly surprising. Sex today competes with an entire digital universe. Short videos, streaming platforms, games, endless online content. Why invest emotional and physical effort when easier forms of stimulation are available on demand?

Add to this anxiety. Choosing a partner now feels like navigating a field of red flags. Fear of manipulation, abuse, psychological labels. Then practical concerns intrude. What if it leads to commitment? Marriage? A mortgage? In such a climate, withdrawal begins to look rational.

How did we get here?

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The period we remember as sexually liberated may have been a historical exception. Roughly from the 1950's onward, a unique combination of factors aligned. Contraception became widespread. Living standards rose. Housing conditions improved. Education expanded. Sexual behavior began to separate from reproduction and marriage. This was the so-called second demographic transition. Sex could exist for pleasure, independent of family formation.

For a few decades, sex became both accessible and culturally celebrated. We assumed this was a permanent achievement of modernity. But across most of human history, sex was not a sphere of self-expression. For the majority, it was tied to necessity, reproduction, obligation. Hygiene, privacy, comfort the conditions that make mutual pleasure possible were luxuries. Ideas like female orgasm or emotional compatibility were not central concerns for ordinary people.

We like to point to ancient erotic art or texts such as the Kama Sutra. Yet these represent elite or symbolic cultures, not the daily experience of most. What the late twentieth century did was briefly place sex at the center of mass culture.

That moment appears to be passing.

Now sex competes not only with digital entertainment but with a broader ethos of individual optimization. Time is a resource. Energy is limited. People prioritize career, fitness, mental stability, travel, consumption. Sex, with its uncertainties and vulnerabilities, looks inefficient.

The result is paradoxical. A society saturated with sexual imagery in the recent past is producing generations less interested in sexual practice. The language of desire remains in advertising and media, but lived reality is shifting toward disengagement.

Perhaps this is not decline but rebalancing. Sex, having enjoyed a period of cultural overexposure, returns to being one element among many, no longer the organizing principle of youth culture. Yet the contrast with the 1990's is striking enough to feel like a rupture.

That earlier era left a vast archive of films, novels, and memories depicting a world in which sex seemed easy, central, almost guaranteed. We may end up studying that period the way we study other brief cultural phases, through art and nostalgia rather than personal experience.

It turns out that the age when sex was treated as a universal value may have been an interlude, not a destination. And we are now living through the correction. ".

I need a suggestion from those mates who know Davao, the Philippines and the scene of every single place well.

I will spend 2 months in the Philippines. I have already booked a comfortable apartment in Avida Towers for a month via AirBnb, because I managed to find a good price. Then thinking that there is also the great University nearby, all this enticed me to book. But after a few days of booking and after speaking with the owner of the apartment, I had my first doubts.

In Avida Towers it is not possible to have a place for a scooter, it is not possible to have a place for a bicycle. Avida Towers is located on a major main road where there is chaos. As soon as you leave you are besieged by the chaos of traffic and noise. My flight will arrive at 6 am and check in is after 3 pm, although I can self check in, but only if the room is available.

Then there is also the fact that if I get tired of staying in that area, I will necessarily have to stay there because I have already paid for the entire month.

Since I can still cancel the reservation without incurring penalties, I would like your advice.

I also looked for other apartments in that area but they are almost all located in Avida Towers. I can also move to other places a little further south and book for 2 weeks and then see if everything goes well, but the apartments are not as interesting as those in Avida Towers and cost more.

What would you do? However I will not consider a hotel because I like to cook. Thanks for some dispassionate advice!

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048821]Being with a Filipina for many days is often boring. You can't laugh, you can't joke, you can't do or say what you think, otherwise he gets angry. In fact, almost no Filipina can understand how much you are joking. It takes everything as true. So you have to change your way of being and this annoys me a lot. [/QUOTE]Good call. That was the Pea's exact point.

Newbs beware, when meeting regular girls, you are often dealing with people who speak a limited amount of English. They speak with an accent (ox-cent); mix up the letters V and B -- "Look my phone, its bivrate"; and F and P -- "I want to fregnint"; they say 'she' when they mean 'he', and say 'he' when they mean 'she'; and she won't understand your humor while you won't understand hers. It can be a bit maddening. Then you get laid with a pretty girl who bangs you dry. Its an acquired taste. Welcome to it.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048821]I met a girl from near Davao who understood me immediately. But it only happened once. She was a 25 year old girl who was so passionate about me that she longed to meet me again. I remember that once I was in Cagayan de Oro and I sent her a greeting. She was drooling just to see me on cam even for just 5 minutes. When I opened the camera she was almost teary-eyed with happiness. But then I had a girl who was more beautiful than her, even if much less sweet. Eheheheheh.[/QUOTE]So you met a pretty girl who was into YOU, then you dropped her for a prettier girl who was less into you. And they say men are dogs.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049004]I need a suggestion from those mates who know Davao, the Philippines and the scene of every single place well.

I will spend 2 months in the Philippines. I have already booked a comfortable apartment in Avida Towers for a month via AirBnb, because I managed to find a good price. Then thinking that there is also the great University nearby, all this enticed me to book. But after a few days of booking and after speaking with the owner of the apartment, I had my first doubts.

In Avida Towers it is not possible to have a place for a scooter, it is not possible to have a place for a bicycle. Avida Towers is located on a major main road where there is chaos. As soon as you leave you are besieged by the chaos of traffic and noise. My flight will arrive at 6 am and check in is after 3 pm, although I can self check in, but only if the room is available.

Then there is also the fact that if I get tired of staying in that area, I will necessarily have to stay there because I have already paid for the entire month.

Since I can still cancel the reservation without incurring penalties, I would like your advice.

I also looked for other apartments in that area but they are almost all located in Avida Towers. I can also move to other places a little further south and book for 2 weeks and then see if everything goes well, but the apartments are not as interesting as those in Avida Towers and cost more.

What would you do? However I will not consider a hotel because I like to cook. Thanks for some dispassionate advice![/QUOTE]You left out the worst part. Avida has [B]VERY[/B] strict guest and curfew rules for Airbnb's. And they are enforced. No guests after 10 pm. Only guests registered at check-in. No additions or change outs. You won't be having random girls joining you throughout your stay.

I booked a week and walked away after one night. Fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB.

The road is busy but I wouldn't describe it as crazy. There are numerous apartment blocks further down, closer to Gaisano. I don't know if / where they are advertised. Maybe book somewhere in the area for a night or two and ask in person. Poblacion is a handy area to stay in: good transport options; easy for girls to get to; lots of eating and shopping; numerous universities and medical colleges nearby.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!!

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049100]You left out the worst part. Avida has [B]VERY[/B] strict guest and curfew rules for Airbnb's. And they are enforced. No guests after 10 pm. Only guests registered at check-in. No additions or change outs. You won't be having random girls joining you throughout your stay.I booked a week and walked away after one night. Fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB.[/QUOTE]You couldn't give me more precious news than this. In two days I will cancel my reservation and go somewhere else, but first I have to figure out where. You told me Poblacion. But Poblacion, but Poblacion area is very large. I need to think well before canceling my reservation at Avida Towers.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049004]In Avida Towers it is not possible to have a place for a scooter, it is not possible to have a place for a bicycle. Avida Towers is located on a major main road where there is chaos. As soon as you leave you are besieged by the chaos of traffic and noise. My flight will arrive at 6 am and check in is after 3 pm, although I can self check in, but only if the room is available.
[/QUOTE]Condo residences either sell or rent their limited parking slots to its residents. You will need to contact your owner / host and ask if their slot is available (if they have one). Alternately you can wait until you are there and ask Admin if they can rent you one that is not being used. I've never been in a condo where they allow anyone to park in their lot who hasn't paid for a slot. Its not an open parking garage, like at a mall (its a money-maker amenity). Someone else weigh in. Almost every time I've asked an owner / host if I can use their slot, they reply that they don't own one. However one owner was chatting me in the unit when I checked in, and when I asked him if I could rent a motorcycle and use his parking slot, he said that he owns one but does not allow his guests to use the slot. "Usually I just tell tenants that I don't have one". He said that he needs the slot open for himself when he comes to the building, as parking on the street in the area was limited.

And alternately, you can call Avida's admin before you arrive and ask about the parking situation.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049108]You couldn't give me more precious news than this. In two days I will cancel my reservation and go somewhere else, but first I have to figure out where. You told me Poblacion. But Poblacion, but Poblacion area is very large. I need to think well before canceling my reservation at Avida Towers.[/QUOTE]Finding a suitable condo etc will be much easier when you are physically in town. You will be able to check location, fitout, security issues etc in person vs online promises.

As I said previously, book a night or two accommodation anywhere in the area. Use that time to drive or walk around and do inspections in person. There are many condos in Poblacion, some of which are not listed on Airbnb etc.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049158]Finding a suitable condo etc will be much easier when you are physically in town. You will be able to check location, fitout, security issues etc in person vs online promises.

As I said previously, book a night or two accommodation anywhere in the area. Use that time to drive or walk around and do inspections in person. There are many condos in Poblacion, some of which are not listed on Airbnb etc.[/QUOTE]I used AirBnB again to find another apartment / Studio. I fould not far from Gaisano in Poblacion. It is in Ivory Residences.

I asked the owner: "Can I bring guests without problems? I mean 1 at a time. Or are there strict rules?" he responded like this: "You may bring 1 guest at a time. But must log in at the reception".

I don't know if the guest policy is as restrictive everywhere as that in Avida Towers.

Anyway, you told me to check in person once I'm there, but who should I ask? Do I have to go to a Real Estate Agency?

You don't specify where I should go and who to ask. I don't think it's easy in a big city, what you're telling me.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049177]I asked the owner: "Can I bring guests without problems? I mean 1 at a time. Or are there strict rules?" he responded like this: "You may bring 1 guest at a time. But must log in at the reception. I don't know if the guest policy is as restrictive everywhere as that in Avida Towers".[/QUOTE]That's not restrictive, its as good as it gets. The owner is saying you can bring your girlie guest in. Just register her at the reception desk. It would appear that you are ready to go.

I asked 3-4 condo owners of large buildings and they all gave me the same answer.

This thing bothers me a lot, not because I don't want to register my guests, but because there is mistrust about me. This bothers me.

If anyone can tell me what I can do to go to apartments or condos without registering guests, I would be happy, otherwise I get anxious.

Maybe I'll have to stay on the outskirts. Hahahaha.

However Davao is pissing me off!

This is their reply:

"If the visitors are not registered, they may not be allowed to enter the building otherwise not. This is part of the building's strict security policy.

These protocols are standard for most Airbnb units and hotels in Davao lately, especially following a recent incident involving an Airbnb unit in another building not in Messa tierra that's someone killed. As a result, building management has implemented stricter security measures to ensure the safety of all guests and residents.

This is a firm rule throughout Davao. At this point I don't know whether to cancel the Avida Towers reservation."

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049177]I don't know if the guest policy is as restrictive everywhere as that in Avida Towers.

Anyway, you told me to check in person once I'm there, but who should I ask? Do I have to go to a Real Estate Agency?

You don't specify where I should go and who to ask. I don't think it's easy in a big city, what you're telling me.[/QUOTE]Ayala is one of the nicest condo towers in town so it's no surprise that it also has the highest security. There might be some buildings where you can just walk in and up to your room unrestricted but they will be the oldest buildings with the worst features. Security is seen and marketed as a positive so the better the building the stricter it will be. Westie is correct in that guests (especially those of questionable intention) signing in upon entry is the default standard. To be honest, do you really want strangers to be able to enter and roam around the building unquestioned?

Just walk in the front door and there will be a reception desk where you can ask if there are any apartments available for monthly rent. It's that simple. I've never used a RE Agency.

Good Luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049249]To be honest, do you really want strangers to be able to enter and roam around the building unquestioned?[/QUOTE]But if a guest enter with me what is the problem?

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049249]Just walk in the front door and there will be a reception desk where you can ask if there are any apartments available for monthly rent. It's that simple. I've never used a RE Agency.[/QUOTE]Right but I was looking for something simpler not big buildings line Ayala or Avida. Skyscrapers have guest problems. For this reason it is not easy to find a condo.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049100]I booked a week and walked away after one night. Fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB.[/QUOTE]I found another condo at the same price by AirBnb. It's in "Mesatierra Garden Residence".

Do you think it is better than Avida when it comes to guest restrictions and other restrictions? I am able to cancel the reservation at Avida and book this condo at "Mesatierra Garden Residence".

I like Avida Towers because it's next to Peopl'es Park, but I think Mesatierra is also very well located.

What would you do?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049236]This thing bothers me a lot, not because I don't want to register my guests, but because there is mistrust about me. This bothers me.[/QUOTE]He can't talk to girls in public, and he doesn't trust his guests? There must be a language issue here.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049236]If anyone can tell me what I can do to go to apartments or condos without registering guests, I would be happy, otherwise I get anxious.[/QUOTE]Holy bajesus, it would be remiss of me to tell you what place you can not register your guest so that you can get robbed and / or drugged by some girl. There will be short time places nearby where you can take your girl and you won't need to register her.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049254]But if a guest enter with me what is the problem?[/QUOTE]No problem. Just sign her in with the guard or front desk.

Many condos are even ok with your girl entering alone (while you are in your unit). She registers at the guard or front desk, the guard or front desk calls your room to ask you if its ok for miss Jennifer to come up. You say yes and you avoid the walk of shame. She can depart the same way. Are you trying to avoid the walk of shame?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049254]Skyscrapers have guest problems. For this reason it is not easy to find a condo.[/QUOTE]What guest problems? Getting above floor 10 will get you away from a lot of street noise (cars, chickens, etc).

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049271]I found another condo at the same price by AirBnb. It's in "Mesatierra Garden Residence".

Do you think it is better than Avida when it comes to guest restrictions and other restrictions? I am able to cancel the reservation at Avida and book this condo at "Mesatierra Garden Residence".

I like Avida Towers because it's next to Peopl'es Park, but I think Mesatierra is also very well located.

What would you do?[/QUOTE]He's going to question us to death on this. "What do you fellas think about Knightsbridge? Girl friendly"? Then: "What do you guys think about Milano"? And so on.

Jones, we don't look at 'strict' = guest registration. We see strict as not allowing any guest to enter.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3049290]He can't talk to girls in public, and he doesn't trust his guests? There must be a language issue here.

Holy bajesus, it would be remiss of me to tell you what place you can not register your guest so that you can get robbed and / or drugged by some girl. There will be short time places nearby where you can take your girl and you won't need to register her.

No problem. Just sign her in with the guard or front desk.

Many condos are even ok with your girl entering alone (while you are in your unit). She registers at the guard or front desk, the guard or front desk calls your room to ask you if its ok for miss Jennifer to come up. You say yes and you avoid the walk of shame. She can depart the same way. Are you trying to avoid the walk of shame?

What guest problems? Getting above floor 10 will get you away from a lot of street noise (cars, chickens, etc).

He's going to question us to death on this. "What do you fellas think about Knightsbridge? Girl friendly"? Then: "What do you guys think about Milano"? And so on.

Jones, we don't look at 'strict' = guest registration. We see strict as not allowing any guest to enter.[/QUOTE]Unless his plans involves the girl never leaving...

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3049296]Unless his plans involves the girl never leaving...[/QUOTE]To next question will be about apartments with big freezers or refrigerators.

G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3049296]Unless his plans involves the girl never leaving...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Goferring;3049315]To next question will be about apartments with big freezers or refrigerators..[/QUOTE]The next question will probably be about where to find fresh fava beans, a good chianti, black trash bags, a large suitcase, and quicklime.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049315]I booked a week and walked away after one night. Fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB.[/QUOTE]You made a mistake in choosing a condo, I wouldn't want to make a mistake and waste time.

This is why I ask questions, so as not to make mistakes like you.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3049290]

He's going to question us to death on this. "What do you fellas think about Knightsbridge? Girl friendly"? Then: "What do you guys think about Milano"? And so on.

Jones, we don't look at 'strict' = guest registration. We see strict as not allowing any guest to enter.[/QUOTE]This is not unusual. We have had various posters ask repeated questions about the minutiae of a visit or their multiple specific preferences. Numerous members then reply utilising often years of or repeated visits only to have them discounted based upon quick Google searches or proforma hotel replies.

We can see these in JLs questions which have become pedantic and answers which are factually incorrect*. I'll repeat that the best way to solve very specific needs is to arrive and make one's own searches and decisions. If a monger is looking for accommodation three doors from a 7/11, with red carpets, blue door knobs and a king sized bathtub, then this is the best way to find it. Others can make suggestions but they will never satisfy numerous moving prerequisites.

*For the record, Avida Davao is not "next to" People's Park. It is several blocks away and a dark and lonely walk at night. There are several hotels which literally ring People's Park that have varying security requirements (down to zero) but they don't meet his kitchen and other needs. They are very familiar with having working girls entering and leaving because have a guess where Davao's main freelancer stroll is after 11 pm. 😉.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049387]We can see these in JLs questions which have become pedantic and answers which are factually incorrect*. I'll repeat that the best way to solve very specific needs is to arrive and make one's own searches and decisions.[/QUOTE]Possible Report Of Distinction, at least these two sentences. There you have it Jonesy. File us a solid report.

My routine involves buying fish in the morning and steaming it in a rice cooker. Besides fish, the other two sellers are pork and chicken, both of which are notorious for food poisoning, especially in tropical wet markets where they can be sitting outside as a feast for flies for hours on end. I get Pinoys are largely immune to most of the viruses they carry but what do foreigners do? Bleach them or lots of spice? Some nice pork chops would go down well but I don't want to be bed ridden for a week and the pork and chicken on open display looks fatal.

Also, what is with Pinoy fruit and veg, not the imported stuff? Why is it so expensive, especially vis a is pinoy wages?

My situation is compounded as I generally don't eat fried food but the Russian roulette nature of cheap food here makes me retreat into Western bubble who fry everything.

Food is my only consolation, I picked up a hooker at 11 am yesterday morning who promised 3 hours of debauchery and the world's best massage but was a super fat wham bam charlatan. The other negative about these street hookers is they are more observant than cops and some of them, sadly, never forget a face and pop up at inopportune times.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3049378]You made a mistake in choosing a condo, I wouldn't want to make a mistake and waste time.

This is why I ask questions, so as not to make mistakes like you.[/QUOTE]You're right. My bad. Best to just disregard my previous posts.

Enjoy your holiday. G.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3048386]Unfortunately at the market I can have 1000 eyes on me while I'm talking to a girl; especially if I use my smartphone to ask her for her FB.

All this scares me a little, also because I have never spoken to a girl on the street to make advances.

I was thinking of leaving these girls a note with my FB profile. Do you think it's wrong?[/QUOTE]Hey JonesLover, my story is from this morning's visit to our local wet market.

Hundreds of vendors out in the open, selling fruits and veggies. Been going there for years and it's rare I see another foreigner. Being an unescorted Caucasian there always gives me a degree of celebrity status.

I stopped by an egg vendor. As I was putting items in my egg crate, an older Filipina visiting from the city of Bacolod started a conversation with me. Asked where I am from, how long have I lived here, do I have a wife, blah blah blah. She excitedly offered to set me up with a niece, but I declined, as I'm not currently looking for a partner and don't want commitments.

Chatted for a couple of minutes, then asked if I would engage in prayer with her. Caught me off-guard, but I kindly bowed my head and listened. After a loud Amen, we said our goodbyes and headed on our separate ways.

As there are no walls there, plenty of vendors and customers heard parts of our conversation. No big deal to me, we're all humans.

Next to the egg seller was a kiosk with good looking red tomatoes. Manning the table was a cute-to-my-eyes sweetie, estimated 19 years-old. Short, petite, dark skin, long hair, no discernable belly fat. A bit reserved but inquisitive. The kind of girl that Korean and Japanese men think is ugly but most of we older Americans think is cute and appealing.

As I was selecting tomatoes, she started asking the usual questions. What country am I from? Why am I here in the Philippines? Where is my partner? Where do I live? Do I live alone? Who takes care of me and my house?

As she was handing me change from my 50-peso bill, she asks if I have Facebook. I lied and said no, as I said I believe FB is evil. But then I brazenly asked for her phone number on a piece of paper and promised I would send a text after I got home. Another day, another one of Joe's fibs.

Then I later stopped by a kiosk to buy apples, manned by another young, smiley, and moderately-cute seller. Based on her demeanor, I have little doubt I could have obtained her digits if I would only had asked.

Occurrences like this happen to me quite often when I am milling with the commoners. If I were more assertive, I could have a Rolodex full of phone numbers and FB contacts. But sweet gals like this aren't for me. I'm a somewhat seedy guy who likes spending an hour or two with an even seedier gal.

I understand the appeal and ease of using the internet to search for both long and short-term interludes. But Jonesy, I guarantee you a certain degree of success in Davao City if you engage with gals in the right places if you have even only a modest amount of "game". Go out on a few dates with these normal gals, and chances are good one will turn into the 10-day bedmate you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3049478]My routine involves buying fish in the morning and steaming it in a rice cooker. Besides fish, the other two sellers are pork and chicken, both of which are notorious for food poisoning, especially in tropical wet markets where they can be sitting outside as a feast for flies for hours on end. I get Pinoys are largely immune to most of the viruses they carry but what do foreigners do? Bleach them or lots of spice? Some nice pork chops would go down well but I don't want to be bed ridden for a week and the pork and chicken on open display looks fatal.

Also, what is with Pinoy fruit and veg, not the imported stuff? Why is it so expensive, especially vis a is pinoy wages?

My situation is compounded as I generally don't eat fried food but the Russian roulette nature of cheap food here makes me retreat into Western bubble who fry everything.

Food is my only consolation, I picked up a hooker at 11 am yesterday morning who promised 3 hours of debauchery and the world's best massage but was a super fat wham bam charlatan. The other negative about these street hookers is they are more observant than cops and some of them, sadly, never forget a face and pop up at inopportune times.[/QUOTE]The trick is to get there early in the morning before the flies and heat have their way with the meat.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3049478]My routine involves buying fish in the morning and steaming it in a rice cooker. Besides fish, the other two sellers are pork and chicken, both of which are notorious for food poisoning, especially in tropical wet markets where they can be sitting outside as a feast for flies for hours on end. I get Pinoys are largely immune to most of the viruses they carry but what do foreigners do? Bleach them or lots of spice? Some nice pork chops would go down well but I don't want to be bed ridden for a week and the pork and chicken on open display looks fatal.[/QUOTE]I have a few months of experience in the Philippines and I have always cooked by myself because I like cooking. For this reason I have always booked apartments. I rarely went to Jollybees. I can say that I have never had a problem. The only thing I ever managed to cook was cow meat. I've tried a thousand ways, even boiling it first and then cooking it, but to no avail. I've always thrown it in the garbage because it's too hard, inedible. For the rest everything is good. But I wash every type of meat thoroughly before cooking it. Since I like cooking, I bought everything and I also cooked pasta sauces with the fish. The chicken is the best I have found in the world and I have eaten many kilos of it. Ahahahaha.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3049478]My routine involves buying fish in the morning and steaming it in a rice cooker. Besides fish, the other two sellers are pork and chicken, both of which are notorious for food poisoning, especially in tropical wet markets where they can be sitting outside as a feast for flies for hours on end. I get Pinoys are largely immune to most of the viruses they carry but what do foreigners do? Bleach them or lots of spice? Some nice pork chops would go down well but I don't want to be bed ridden for a week and the pork and chicken on open display looks fatal.

Also, what is with Pinoy fruit and veg, not the imported stuff? Why is it so expensive, especially vis a is pinoy wages?

My situation is compounded as I generally don't eat fried food but the Russian roulette nature of cheap food here makes me retreat into Western bubble who fry everything.

Food is my only consolation, I picked up a hooker at 11 am yesterday morning who promised 3 hours of debauchery and the world's best massage but was a super fat wham bam charlatan. The other negative about these street hookers is they are more observant than cops and some of them, sadly, never forget a face and pop up at inopportune times.[/QUOTE]While your prudent watching the quality of the meats, I've always found anytime I've got really sick that's it's always been the water to blame. Different cities have different qualities of tap water. None is drinkable but some areas are known to have really bad water problems so even washing teeth, showering etc needs to be done with caution. Be careful not to get any tap water in your mouth when washing your teeth, face or hair for example. Ask around to get a sense of how much faith local residents place in their water supply and trust what they say.

For meals, I never get anything medium rare. Everything is well done. Yes, it doesn't taste as good but it's much safer.

I resort to the western eateries more for salads and veggies than familiarity. You would think tropical fruits and plant based dishes would abound but its woeful compared to Thailand, Indonesia etc.

Local dishes, where everyone knows how to source, store and cook ingredients, are generally much safer than western dishes. A local dish that turns over daily is much better than a Spaghetti Bolognese that may have been sitting in a luke warm fridge for a week.

Hahaha. I've got a million stories about being recognised by the wrong person at the wrong time. Forget about having a sly quicky and making an escape. The past often pops up again to haunt us.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;3049525]Next to the egg seller was a kiosk with good looking red tomatoes. Manning the table was a cute-to-my-eyes sweetie, estimated 19 years-old. Short, petite, dark skin, long hair, no discernable belly fat. A bit reserved but inquisitive. The kind of girl that Korean and Japanese men think is ugly but most of we older Americans think is cute and appealing.

As I was selecting tomatoes, she started asking the usual questions. What country am I from? Why am I here in the Philippines? Where is my partner? Where do I live? Do I live alone? Who takes care of me and my house?

As she was handing me change from my 50-peso bill, she asks if I have Facebook. I lied and said no, as I said I believe FB is evil. But then I brazenly asked for her phone number on a piece of paper and promised I would send a text after I got home. Another day, another one of Joe's fibs.[/QUOTE]Glad to know you met an honest girl that gave you change! I would've texted that fine tomato seller for sure.

I was at the Manila airport buying something from a vendor. She claimed not to have exact change. It was a small amount, so I said keep it. It seemed like she was expecting this response. Later I read that it's a common occurrence in the Philippines. So common that they made a law against it, the Shortchange act of 2016.

Beginner's mistake on my part. At least I didn't fall for sending "emergency" money to the FLs that keep requesting it over Whatsapp. I'm starting to think a few of these pinays aren't completely trustworthy.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3049651]While your prudent watching the quality of the meats, I've always found anytime I've got really sick that's it's always been the water to blame. Different cities have different qualities of tap water. None is drinkable but some areas are known to have really bad water problems so even washing teeth, [/QUOTE]Been all over PI and the only way I have brushed my teeth is using the sink water. Never had a problem. The only place in the world that I have not used the sink water to do it is the Sheraton Hotel Santo Domingo Dominican Republic where they have a sign below the mirror saying not to. In every other hotel or house in Dominican Republic I have had no problem doing it.

Has anyone tried verified girls from are / BeyondTheDistrict? There is a whole lot of talent there.

[QUOTE=TomGrand;3049678]Glad to know you met an honest girl that gave you change! I would've texted that fine tomato seller for sure.

I was at the Manila airport buying something from a vendor. She claimed not to have exact change. It was a small amount, so I said keep it. It seemed like she was expecting this response. Later I read that it's a common occurrence in the Philippines. So common that they made a law against it, the Shortchange act of 2016.

Beginner's mistake on my part. At least I didn't fall for sending "emergency" money to the FLs that keep requesting it over Whatsapp. I'm starting to think a few of these pinays aren't completely trustworthy.[/QUOTE]I'm retired, so I have a lot of free time. So I talk to a lot of girls online, also to pass the time. Maybe in these days I have spoken to about 50 girls and I think that 49 have asked me for money, both directly, but often in a more veiled way, that is, indirectly. When they understand that for this very reason I'm about to leave them and send them to fuck off, almost all of them become saints and apologize. Reason why I have about 30 girls lined up from Davao who want to meet me. Since I'm not naive, I hope to meet at least 2-3 of them and that they don't all vanish first. Jejeje.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049692]Been all over PI and the only way I have brushed my teeth is using the sink water. Never had a problem. The only place in the world that I have not used the sink water to do it is the Sheraton Hotel Santo Domingo Dominican Republic where they have a sign below the mirror saying not to. In every other hotel or house in Dominican Republic I have had no problem doing it.[/QUOTE]Getting sick from any source (water, meats, other people) might be dependent on each person's immune system. The water in any one place might make some sick, but not others. Have been to hotels in Phils, Indo, Mexico, etc that have a sign in the CR: "Do not drink the water".

Does it make any sense to complain to the authorities about poor sanitation etc in hotels. Or does anyone in this country give a fuck about anything? My hotel has a water problem a plumber should be able to fix in half a day at the outset but they see it as my problem, not theirs.

There are a lot of long term residents happy to live here with the rats but this should be a holiday place, not a front line Ukrainian trench. This [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] attitude is a godsend to corruption, sloth and much more.

I don't drink it, but I brush my teeth with it everywhere. Only while in India, I used distilled water for the tooth brushing.

If I would avoid it, the first thing to protect that comes to mind will be my dick.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3049882]Does it make any sense to complain to the authorities about poor sanitation etc in hotels.

Or does anyone in this country give a fuck about anything?

My hotel has a water problem a plumber should be able to fix in half a day at the outset

but they see it as my problem, not theirs.

There are a lot of long term residents happy to live here with the rats but this should be a holiday place, not a front line Ukrainian trench.

This attitude is a godsend to corruption, sloth and much more.[/QUOTE]No.

No.

Yes, so??

It was their problem before receiving payment. Now it's your problem.

Ever boiled a frog?

Those in power have implemented a system that facilitates bribery, corruption and cronyism?? And this is surprising??

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3049851]Getting sick from any source (water, meats, other people) might be dependent on each person's immune system. The water in any one place might make some sick, but not others. Have been to hotels in Phils, Indo, Mexico, etc that have a sign in the CR: "Do not drink the water".[/QUOTE]I've got a cast iron guts after living in some pretty out there places. I've noticed that I don't get sick often but when I do it's really severe. Typically bed ridden for days.

Once was being stupid enough to eat Spag Bog from a hole in the wall in Cambodia. The other was water in Butuan (as I said, a known problem).

Enjoy. G.

Heads up to the viagra / cialis / "antibiotics for no reason", users:

Apparently you can get into trouble at any border if you have prescription drugs on you without the prescription.

"When the man was detained, officers reportedly found that he was carrying four Viagra pills without a prescription. " This was just a sidenote in an article about a brit causing tantrum in the HK airport, but it caught my attention.

Here is the full article: [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/world/tourist-arrested-destroying-multiple-check-in-kiosks-hong-kong-airport-rampage[/URL].

Probably is not as bad as having coke on you, but if they want, they can charge you with possession if you have a big mouth.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052719]Heads up to the viagra / cialis / "antibiotics for no reason", users:

Apparently you can get into trouble at any border if you have prescription drugs on you without the prescription.

"When the man was detained, officers reportedly found that he was carrying four Viagra pills without a prescription. " This was just a sidenote in an article about a brit causing tantrum in the HK airport, but it caught my attention.

Here is the full article: [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/world/tourist-arrested-destroying-multiple-check-in-kiosks-hong-kong-airport-rampage[/URL].

Probably is not as bad as having coke on you, but if they want, they can charge you with possession if you have a big mouth.[/QUOTE]Ya, its SOP. Upon entry into the US, I have been questioned several times about this or that item that is labeled as 'prescription' in the US, which I didn't have a script for. One time they confiscated my Phils-purchased vitamin see pills, the other times they seemed unintrigued when I told them that I purchased them in Mexico, Phils, etc. And they let me keep it and waived me thru.

Another trick. Get a prescription from any doctor for some cialis and another for viagra. When purchasing in Phils, the pharmacists rarely write anything on the paper prescription, nor do they keep the script, they just shove it back across the counter at me and sell me the pieces I ask for. Keep both scripts with you when traveling, they are literally your get-out-of-jail cards.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3049935]I don't drink it, but I brush my teeth with it everywhere. Only while in India, I used distilled water for the tooth brushing.

If I would avoid it, the first thing to protect that comes to mind will be my dick.[/QUOTE]Yet another classic from Ugly.

Likewise regarding the water, I do the toothbrushing thing and have never had a problem with boiling it for coffee in a hotel.

Had a dodgy feed in Cebu City a few weeks ago, but popped an Imodium straight away.

Did a sizzling seafood platter in Bantayan not long after and expected it to go straight through me. Not an ideal issue to deal with when you have limited time and you're on the hunt for some talent. No probs at all.

India's surely not on my agenda Ugly.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052744]Yet another classic from Ugly.
Had a dodgy feed in Cebu City a few weeks ago, but popped an Imodium straight away.[/QUOTE]Imodium =m loperamide, it is of no use, on the contrary, it makes the problem worse.

You had to take a Normix = Rifaximin. The latter is a disinfectant, the other one stops diarrhea.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3052730]

Another trick. Get a prescription from any doctor for some cialis and another for viagra. When purchasing in Phils, the pharmacists rarely write anything on the paper prescription, nor do they keep the script, they just shove it back across the counter at me and sell me the pieces I ask for. Keep both scripts with you when traveling, they are literally your get-out-of-jail cards.[/QUOTE]Without stating the obvious, the same script can also be used again and again in the Philippines. Some don't care but others will refuse very old or worn copies but they have to be pretty bad.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052719]Heads up to the viagra / cialis / "antibiotics for no reason", users:

Apparently you can get into trouble at any border if you have prescription drugs on you without the prescription.

"When the man was detained, officers reportedly found that he was carrying four Viagra pills without a prescription. " This was just a sidenote in an article about a brit causing tantrum in the HK airport, but it caught my attention.

Here is the full article: [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/world/tourist-arrested-destroying-multiple-check-in-kiosks-hong-kong-airport-rampage[/URL].

Probably is not as bad as having coke on you, but if they want, they can charge you with possession if you have a big mouth.[/QUOTE]It appears that he failed his mission, as he was trying to leave Hong Kong with four unprescribed Viagra pills. Trying to travel with a severe case of blue balls is never a good idea, especially if he had recently consumed a fifth Viagra pill and was unable to find BBFSCIP to relieve himself. He should have visited the ladies on Waterloo Road instead of showing up at the airport hard in the pants.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3052801]It appears that he failed his mission, as he was trying to leave Hong Kong with four unprescribed Viagra pills. Trying to travel with a severe case of blue balls is never a good idea, especially if he had recently consumed a fifth Viagra pill and was unable to find BBFSCIP to relieve himself. He should have visited the ladies on Waterloo Road instead of showing up at the airport hard in the pants.[/QUOTE]While in HK I'm usually looking for off duty filipinas around Central, World Wide House, or international hookers around Temple St night market, tell me please about this Waterloo Rd location, to enlarge my horizons. I looked it up on the map, but it goes a long way.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3052837]While in HK I'm usually looking for off duty filipinas around Central, World Wide House, or international hookers around Temple St night market, tell me please about this Waterloo Rd location, to enlarge my horizons. I looked it up on the map, but it goes a long way.[/QUOTE]Look where Waterloo Rd forms a triangle with Dundas St and Nathan Rd. Gala Place shopping mall falls inside the triangle. You can usually find some street meat within that area.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3052843]Look where Waterloo Rd forms a triangle with Dundas St and Nathan Rd. Gala Place shopping mall falls inside the triangle. You can usually find some street meat within that area.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I marked it on the map.

This latest offer from the Cebu hottie sounds interesting.

She hasn't hit me up for a new iPhone just yet.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052917]This latest offer from the Cebu hottie sounds interesting.

She hasn't hit me up for a new iPhone just yet.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Some of us are dying of thirst while others are drowning in pussy.

👍.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3052963]Some of us are dying of thirst while others are drowning in pussy.

👍.[/QUOTE]Nahhh. No way.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3052917]This latest offer from the Cebu hottie sounds interesting.

She hasn't hit me up for a new iPhone just yet.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]3 some with a auntie-niece assembly, never did, only sisters 2 weeks ago.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3053032]3 some with a auntie-niece assembly, never did, only sisters 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]It's new to me too Ugly. Keeping it in the family might be better than the usual FL friends teaming up to earn more cash.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3052963]Some of us are dying of thirst while others are drowning in pussy.

👍.[/QUOTE]There are droughts G. The clouds have definitely delivered 'rain' lately.

_Phil.

Been silent, as mostly anchored now in Baguio.

And more catches in Facebook though groups disappear often.

Hopefully I will pop in again here sooner.

And a customary pic.

She was a random girl, appeared, and then I figured she's educated, and had some loans to settle. Aka, he father forced her to get him a car as she's eldest, graduate etc etc. And she has loans.

And after a few screws, one of the men customer decided to take her as permanent. Yeah crazy pinoy, dudes doing ok as well.

And then she's gone.

For now, sticking with the university girls here, who appear and disappear, and never available when needed. And other freelancers who make a facebook account when money is needed, then forget the password.

Life is fun in Baguio.

Add in, nearby La Union is overrun with freeelancers.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3049935]I don't drink it, but I brush my teeth with it everywhere. Only while in India, I used distilled water for the tooth brushing. If I would avoid it, the first thing to protect that comes to mind will be my dick.[/QUOTE]Been in the hobby for over 30+ years and have gone everywhere I could afford. In that time I have learned many lessons the hard way, and now go everywhere prepared. I take proper precautions, and bring my own supplies to fix whatever comes my way. The only thing I can't overcome in PI is the occasional sickness I get from that stupid AC. The water your body gets use to, but the air is almost impossible.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3055682]Been in the hobby for over 30+ years and have gone everywhere I could afford. In that time I have learned many lessons the hard way, and now go everywhere prepared. I take proper precautions, and bring my own supplies to fix whatever comes my way. The only thing I can't overcome in PI is the occasional sickness I get from that stupid AC. The water your body gets use to, but the air is almost impossible.[/QUOTE]Don't have it blasting directly on you. I don't have a problem with it but also I seldomly use it, mostly when physical effort is involved aka fucking. I got used to the heat, and a little bit of sweating is ok. I take 10-15 short showers every day, when I stay home.

My theory is that is not right to go from cold to heat and viceversa, aircon in the room, and heat outside.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3055682]The only thing I can't overcome in PI is the occasional sickness I get from that stupid AC. The water your body gets use to, but the air is almost impossible.[/QUOTE]I have that problem in Manila, elsewhere, not so.

Especially in northern luzon, it's fine.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3055707]Don't have it blasting directly on you. I don't have a problem with it but also I seldomly use it, mostly when physical effort is involved aka fucking. I got used to the heat, and a little bit of sweating is ok. I take 10-15 short showers every day, when I stay home.

My theory is that is not right to go from cold to heat and viceversa, aircon in the room, and heat outside.[/QUOTE]Just turn the thermostat right down. I'm the same: fine with the heat but I do use the AC to drop the humidity in the room. I sleep much better and it's refreshing after walking around town for a few hours.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3055841]Just turn the thermostat right down. I'm the same: fine with the heat but I do use the AC to drop the humidity in the room. I sleep much better and it's refreshing after walking around town for a few hours.

G.[/QUOTE]I'm one of the few, maybe the only one that loves humidity. I lived all my life in the dessert with around 4% humidity year-round, I love when it's raining, and the humidity I know I'm a weirdo. I only hate it when I'm sweating like a pig during sex.

Just thought I'd share a bit of experience, or a warning, with Pina Love for those who are new to it.

Initially I baulked at using it because I assumed I'd be waiting in a hotel room half the day trying to get a catch. I could've been out on the streets accepting advances from FL's. However, it became invaluable in areas like Boracay (not your typical mongering location) and the like. Other areas, it just doesn't bring results due to a lack of girls online there.

Generally, the best 'catches' are those who want to message you via WhatsApp and away from Pina after first making contact.

Just be sure to negotiate a price before they land in your room. Also make sure they're not 'one pop wonders. ' In the negotiation stage mention it's long time and agree on a price.

You don't want to be in that situation, where after the 'job's done,' that they turn it around and demand an extravagant price for a FL and they want to settle it by going down to the police station.

Happened to me once, but you learn by your mistakes.

Just my experience_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3055979]

Generally, the best 'catches' are those who want to message you via WhatsApp and away from Pina after first making contact.

Just be sure to negotiate a price before they land in your room. Also make sure they're not 'one pop wonders. ' In the negotiation stage mention it's long time and agree on a price.

You don't want to be in that situation, where after the 'job's done,' that they turn it around and demand an extravagant price for a FL and they want to settle it by going down to the police station.

Happened to me once, but you learn by your mistakes.

Just my experience_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I find girls' attitude are on a spectrum.

I've had good girls refuse any payment whatsoever. One even refused to see me again because I gave her P100 too much for taxi fare and she thought it labelled her a hoe.

At the other end there are girls who will try their luck, asking for exorbitant amounts. I've found a firm "that's fair" is typically the end of the conversation. I find it's easy to weed these girls out as they will also be the ones asking for transport upfront, help with dead grandma's etc. Just walk away and move on to someone else.

Yes, the straight up pros, eg street walkers or Burgos barfines, need to be finalised before hand.

Now I rarely discuss the financials before even meeting. I find I'm dealing more with the part timers who need a top up that week and are happy to receive anything. After the event, I pay a fair price without being silly so they often take it no questions asked. If course, it helps that I do know the going rate so that might be an issue for someone new to town. I do a lot of repeats so my maths must be close enough that they are happy to return. Returnees also have the benefits of allready knowing what's expected and what's going to be received in return.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3055979]Just thought I'd share a bit of experience, or a warning, with Pina Love for those who are new to it.

Initially I baulked at using it because I assumed I'd be waiting in a hotel room half the day trying to get a catch. I could've been out on the streets accepting advances from FL's. However, it became invaluable in areas like Boracay (not your typical mongering location) and the like. Other areas, it just doesn't bring results due to a lack of girls online there.

Generally, the best 'catches' are those who want to message you via WhatsApp and away from Pina after first making contact.

Just be sure to negotiate a price before they land in your room. Also make sure they're not 'one pop wonders. ' In the negotiation stage mention it's long time and agree on a price.

You don't want to be in that situation, where after the 'job's done,' that they turn it around and demand an extravagant price for a FL and they want to settle it by going down to the police station.

Happened to me once, but you learn by your mistakes.

Just my experience_ Phil.[/QUOTE]What a nightmare scenario. No monger wants to go see the friendly local policeman to negotiate appropriate compensation for the freelance pussy he just nutted in.

Pinoy Policeman: She make you cum, Sir? How many time, Sir? You pay her now sir, only 100,000 pesos, and 50,000 pesos donation to the police station.

Once upon a time, the police station in Angeles City offered unlucky mongers very expensive price arbitration services with freelancers who were dissatisfied with their compensation package.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3056061]What a nightmare scenario. No monger wants to go see the friendly local policeman to negotiate appropriate compensation for the freelance pussy he just nutted in.

Pinoy Policeman: She make you cum, Sir? How many time, Sir? You pay her now sir, only 100,000 pesos, and 50,000 pesos donation to the police station.

Once upon a time, the police station in Angeles City offered unlucky mongers very expensive price arbitration services with freelancers who were dissatisfied with their compensation package.[/QUOTE]First rule is to always settle early and to the most junior rank possible. Even better to avoid the cops all together.

It never ends pretty to escalate to higher authority.

G.

Anyone having problems with their ISG username / password combo being rejected numerous times.

It took me several attempts to log on.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3056128]Anyone having problems with their ISG username / password combo being rejected numerous times.

It took me several attempts to log on.

G.[/QUOTE]Yes. Logged on fine yesterday around 10 am. Then tried around 5 pm, and on the first attempt I got this (see pic): [B]"You have used up your failed login quota! Please wait 15 minutes before trying again"[/B]. Previously it was 3 failed attempts. I get this from time to time, after just one incorrect PW attempt. I waited and tried again later, careful to enter the PW correctly, but got the same message several more times during the evening around 7 and 10 pm. It worked fine this morning. The internet gods like to eff with me sometimes.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3056177]Yes. Logged on fine yesterday around 10 am. Then tried around 5 pm, and on the first attempt I got this (see pic): [B]"You have used up your failed login quota! Please wait 15 minutes before trying again"[/B]. Previously it was 3 failed attempts. I get this from time to time, after just one incorrect PW attempt. I waited and tried again later, careful to enter the PW correctly, but got the same message several more times during the evening around 7 and 10 pm. It worked fine this morning. The internet gods like to eff with me sometimes.[/QUOTE]Exact same. Something clearly was wrong with the site.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3056183]Exact same. Something clearly was wrong with the site.[/QUOTE]And. It happened again this morning.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3056196]And. It happened again this morning.[/QUOTE]Still having difficulties, same thing on login.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3055682] The only thing I can't overcome in PI is the occasional sickness I get from that stupid AC. The water your body gets use to, but the air is almost impossible.[/QUOTE]Aircon in some (most) hotels are not cleaned so the air blowing out is full of mold etc. I started coughing almost immediatly when entering the room. Complained to the front desk to have the Aircon cleaned, it was a higher end hotel so within an hour someone showed up with a ladder and flashlight, "Yes Sir, dirty". That same day a crew came with pressure equipment to clean it inside and the filter. After cleaning the air was great.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3056196]And. It happened again this morning.[/QUOTE]Mine wasn't rejecting an incorrect password. It's entered automatically by Google.

Maybe someone just doesn't like me. LOL.

G.

Seems the peso hit 60 to the US dollar today.

USA! USA! USA!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3056838]Seems the peso hit 60 to the US dollar today.

USA! USA! USA![/QUOTE]In keeping with, its still at 60 plus.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3059633]In keeping with, its still at 60 plus.[/QUOTE]The yuan I up higher than the dollar vs the peso and European countries also making out like gangsters Australians being the best preforming one out of the bunch.

The BSP is defending the dollar due otherwise it would be up around 65-73 right now if we get a perfect storm of prolonged fuel increase which they already rolled in gas prices above 150 pesos per liter in the Philippines until in the of June due to buying Russian oil at a horrible price plus taxes on transit and the Urea / fertilizer shortage due to then decimating natural gas production where the Philippines obtains 90% of their natural gas when this effects the rice yield for the 2nd planting season around the end of this year we will be rolling in pesos, one can only hope.

Past week I hit the exchange house 3 times.

1.60.30.

2.59.80.

3.60.00.

Overall the average came to 60.10 to the dollars exchanged.

As I am long past retirement age, health and health checkups become more important, even though I am in good fettle. I have found Angeles good for that (and haircuts. Physio and dentists) but I would like to get a full executive check up and am looking at Baguio [URL]https://notredamebaguio.com/executive-check-up[/URL] as it seems quite straightforward by Pinoy standards. I am unsure what some of the differences are between the various packages in all the offerings and consultants' fees are a worrying variable.

I prefer hospitals as opposed to clinics and I do realize they have to cater to locals of lesser means. Also, many of their websites are basic.

While in Angeles, I was referred to all the hospitals for various things, including a sleep study, intestinal check (to remove polyps) and much more; they ration a lot of the specialties between themselves which is good. Altogether, I dropped serious cash on all this but, if I want to hang around Planet Earth longer (5-15 years max), that is the price I have to pay.

I have checked a number of places in the Phils from Gen Santos to far up north and this seems to be the simplest. Manila is too big for me. ClarkMedical is not my thing.

I am prepared to go to Turkey or east Europe (Poland) too but there is the problem of not understanding the various packaes, the cold and the lack of LBFM fringe benefits.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3061288]As I am long past retirement age, health and health checkups become more important, even though I am in good fettle. I have found Angeles good for that (and haircuts. Physio and dentists) but I would like to get a full executive check up and am looking at Baguio [URL]https://notredamebaguio.com/executive-check-up[/URL] as it seems quite straightforward by Pinoy standards. I am unsure what some of the differences are between the various packages in all the offerings and consultants' fees are a worrying variable.

I prefer hospitals as opposed to clinics and I do realize they have to cater to locals of lesser means. Also, many of their websites are basic.

While in Angeles, I was referred to all the hospitals for various things, including a sleep study, intestinal check (to remove polyps) and much more; they ration a lot of the specialties between themselves which is good. Altogether, I dropped serious cash on all this but, if I want to hang around Planet Earth longer (5-15 years max), that is the price I have to pay.

I have checked a number of places in the Phils from Gen Santos to far up north and this seems to be the simplest. Manila is too big for me. ClarkMedical is not my thing.

I am prepared to go to Turkey or east Europe (Poland) too but there is the problem of not understanding the various packaes, the cold and the lack of LBFM fringe benefits.[/QUOTE]Thailand I would say is a better alternative to PH, been to Bangkok Hospital chain in Hua Hin, and was ultra modern, with robots roaming the hallways and raiding the elevators on their own. No such thing in the US.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3061288]I have checked a number of places in the Phils from Gen Santos to far up north and this seems to be the simplest. Manila is too big for me. ClarkMedical is not my thing.

I am prepared to go to Turkey or east Europe (Poland) too but there is the problem of not understanding the various packaes, the cold and the lack of LBFM fringe benefits.[/QUOTE]If you make the journey to Bangkok, you can try this: [URL]https://www.phyathai.com/en/ppg/page/allyoucancheck[/URL].

Key is understanding and ordering what tests you need to get at your age bracket to assess targeted risks. Good luck, AR.

I am going through several options and I want to explore the Pinoy one for a number of LBFM related reasons. If anyone has relevant info on Phils, please share. All other SEA countries are out for a variety of reasons.

Baguio appeals to me for a few days as long as they don't leave a scalpel in me. Other places are just too awkward and uncertain to get to.

As regards the PHP / US $ and oil, the PHP has quite naturally weakened against Western countries but not markedly so, as it is an exotic currency, not a major league player.

The PHP will plummet if overseas workers start getting expelled and / or their remittances dry up. Ditto India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

I feel sorry for the Phils but my tears won't fill bellies.

Hi All!

I'm planning my first trip to Phil. And it's so complicated! Too many islands and places to research.

Any suggestions on the best way to blend mongering and vacation? Angeles sounds too one-sided, a mongering destination and nothing else to do.

I'm thinking 2-3 weeks.

I see some have been fortunate enough to have a girly guide, that would be awesome, but don't have any contacts.

I'd be grateful to receive DMs and happy to share contacts back for those interested in Dubai.

Cheers, SW.

[QUOTE=SteveW;3061717]Hi All!

I'm planning my first trip to Phil. And it's so complicated! Too many islands and places to research.

Any suggestions on the best way to blend mongering and vacation? Angeles sounds too one-sided, a mongering destination and nothing else to do.

I'm thinking 2-3 weeks.

I see some have been fortunate enough to have a girly guide, that would be awesome, but don't have any contacts.

I'd be grateful to receive DMs and happy to share contacts back for those interested in Dubai.

Cheers, SW.[/QUOTE]Not complicated at all. Start with bigger cities and work your way to smaller ones. You have not listed any points of interests, hobbies or purpose.

You will land in Manila or Cebu. Venture out from there. There are many reports and forums listed here. Do some research.

Philippines is the easiest place to score, even on your first trip, you don't need any contacts there are lots of options I would start from Manila. Just skim a few pages on ISG or let AI summarize the good stuff for you. Angeles is pure mongering heaven too. For a proper 2-3 week mix of pussy + vacation, don't make it all Angeles.

I haven't done Cebu yet, but have heard its still solid for girls and has way better vacation stuff around it. Girly guide would be nice but most guys just wing it after reading reports.

[QUOTE=SteveW;3061717]Hi All!

I'm planning my first trip to Phil. And it's so complicated! Too many islands and places to research.

Any suggestions on the best way to blend mongering and vacation? Angeles sounds too one-sided, a mongering destination and nothing else to do.

I'm thinking 2-3 weeks.

I see some have been fortunate enough to have a girly guide, that would be awesome, but don't have any contacts.

I'd be grateful to receive DMs and happy to share contacts back for those interested in Dubai.

Cheers, SW.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteveW;3061717]Hi All!

I'm planning my first trip to Phil. And it's so complicated! Too many islands and places to research.

Any suggestions on the best way to blend mongering and vacation? Angeles sounds too one-sided, a mongering destination and nothing else to do.

I'm thinking 2-3 weeks.

I see some have been fortunate enough to have a girly guide, that would be awesome, but don't have any contacts.

I'd be grateful to receive DMs and happy to share contacts back for those interested in Dubai.

Cheers, SW.[/QUOTE]It's only as complicated as people allow it. Many guys arrive, having done a mountain of research, with a calendar full of minute by minute plans. They never eventuate and the guys leave dejected that their expectations were never met.

Much better to read up here to get a feel for what areas have the things that you are interested in and the girl options that you seek.

There are lots of options: natural beauty, snorkeling and diving, big cities, high end resorts, clubbing. Do you want point and shoot hookers, barfines, freelancers, good girls? Keep her for and hour, a few days after work, a weekend to Boracay, the whole stay (not recommend)?

The options to blend mongering and entertainment are to stay where there are both (Manila, Cebu, Subic etc) or BYOG to the quieter area (from Cebu to Bohol, Manila to Boracay, Palawan etc). As others have said, everyone's definition of "entertainment" is different.

Unfortunately, many members are reluctant to pass on direct contacts, even to known friends. Just because I like someone / thing doesn't mean that you will. You will also get more pleasure out of finding girls how and where you like anyway.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3061424]I am going through several options and I want to explore the Pinoy one for a number of LBFM related reasons. If anyone has relevant info on Phils, please share. All other SEA countries are out for a variety of reasons.

Baguio appeals to me for a few days as long as they don't leave a scalpel in me. Other places are just too awkward and uncertain to get to.[/QUOTE]I live in Baguio. Well, Notre Dame is very very good.

And have you been to Baguio? Yesterday was hot, like 27 degree see. That's hot for here.

[QUOTE=SteveW;3061717]I see some have been fortunate enough to have a girly guide, that would be awesome, but don't have any contacts.

I'd be grateful to receive DMs and happy to share contacts back for those interested in Dubai.

Cheers, SW.[/QUOTE]Do some look up on Peurto Galera, seaside and has a few freelancers.

If you are looking for wham, bham thank you ma'am. Deals, start with Angeles. Red street is filled with take out girl bars.

I am based and Baguio, loads of freelancer, none available at short notice. As they have studies or work. Not the best place unless you have a lot of patience. And of course, most of the girls here are visitors looking for extra cash.

Pesos to one US dollar: 61.62.

[QUOTE=EconoTech;3062063]I live in Baguio. Well, Notre Dame is very very good.

And have you been to Baguio? Yesterday was hot, like 27 degree see. That's hot for here.[/QUOTE]Baguio sounds good. Was there years ago. Silver filigree, strawberries, General Yamashita's gold and the first time I ate dog. Air prices are very volatile right now from Europe but the Chinese are going to clean up. If I take the Baguio route, I will go further north too, hitting the various towns in search of the perfect LBFM.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3063514]Pesos to one US dollar: 61.62.[/QUOTE]USD, AUD, EUR etc gained value against all Asian currencies. Strangely, they have dropped against Latam.

Time to go Long on LBFMs. 😜.

G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3063517]Baguio sounds good. Was there years ago. Silver filigree, strawberries, General Yamashita's gold and the first time I ate dog. Air prices are very volatile right now from Europe but the Chinese are going to clean up. If I take the Baguio route, I will go further north too, hitting the various towns in search of the perfect LBFM.[/QUOTE]Never ate dog here.

And nope, Chinese aren't interested in this part of PH.

Unlike Koreans interested in Clark area.

Did you grab yamashita's gold? Marcos wants it back.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3063531]Time to go Long on LBFMs. 😜.[/QUOTE]I can only afford to go about 6" long. . .

A question for any here who've learned Cebuano: was there any particular app you used and would recommend, or any online courses, videos etc?

I'm interested in learning some of the language to 'please my squeeze', although her own English is excellent, so would appreciate any tips!

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=EconoTech;3063596]Never ate dog here.

And nope, Chinese aren't interested in this part of PH.

Unlike Koreans interested in Clark area.

Did you grab yamashita's gold? Marcos wants it back.[/QUOTE]FYI, Marcos has already converted the gold to billions of USD in case you haven't heard.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;3063630]A question for any here who've learned Cebuano: was there any particular app you used and would recommend, or any online courses, videos etc?

I'm interested in learning some of the language to 'please my squeeze', although her own English is excellent, so would appreciate any tips!

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi Fly,

Congrats on looking to learn the local language.

Having a knowledge of tagalog has helped me so much.

It's a great way to get personal with the locals and they'll appreciate your effort. From the airport and customs staff, to the hotel staff, to the freelancers on the street. It even opens some 'doors' with the 7-11 girls.

It's also an advantage that the girls think that you know, what they're saying about you.

I've always got by with tagalog and english in Cebu.

As for Cebuano, you could pay about $8 per month to use [URL]www.learnbisaya.net[/URL] or similar, or you'll find the basics on YouTube just to please the squeeze.

I started out buying a Pimsleur CD pack and just had them on repeat on my drive home from work every night to learn the basics.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3063514]Pesos to one US dollar: 61.62.[/QUOTE]This fantastic for the hobby, moving into uncharted territory, pressure on oil is expected to last years. With any luck we maybe moving into a golden era of girls not being able to count on the local online hook up / walker market and gcash transfers and move back to sitting around in bars. These girls are literally starving they don't have food to eat at home, jobless and are "just another mouth to feed". I met with a local girl in the province and in her pictures she was normal looking and supposedly was going to be going to college but she was skin and bone not due to anorexia or illness but starvation.

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.

[QUOTE=EconoTech;3063596]Never ate dog here.[/QUOTE]Dogs here have mange on top of mange layers deep their skin is a dried up mass that crinkles when they walk like a piece of plastic. They have the most gamey smell like burnt tires mixed with 4 month old unwashed ball sack and you can never wash off even if you burn it I suspect you can still smell that. A stray dog was living in my storage area near some card board boxes it reeked so bad I paid a kuya to handle it and it still reeks smh.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;3063630]A question for any here who've learned Cebuano: was there any particular app you used and would recommend, or any online courses, videos etc?

I'm interested in learning some of the language to 'please my squeeze', although her own English is excellent, so would appreciate any tips!

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The fastest way I've found to learn is to take said girl on a 2 week holiday to an area that speaks the language you want to learn and tell her that from stepping on the plane to stepping off, no english is to be spoken. It's amazing how quickly you will pick it up.

A word of warning: it will drive her nuts and you will have to insist on not using english several times but it's worth it.

Remember that there isn't one 'Cebuano'. Different areas have different dialects.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3063675]

It's also an advantage that the girls think that you know, what they're saying about you.

.[/QUOTE]It's also an advantage when they don't know that you understand 😜.

G.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;3063681]Dogs here have mange on top of mange layers deep their skin is a dried up mass that crinkles when they walk like a piece of plastic. They have the most gamey smell like burnt tires mixed with 4 month old unwashed ball sack and you can never wash off even if you burn it I suspect you can still smell that. A stray dog was living in my storage area near some card board boxes it reeked so bad I paid a kuya to handle it and it still reeks smh.[/QUOTE]That's a very specific way to describe it. Haha.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3063669]FYI, Marcos has already converted the gold to billions of USD in case you haven't heard.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the whole 40,000 tonnes he was supposed to have discovered.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;3063680]...........

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.[/QUOTE]Same thinking here, so far, so good!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3063675]Hi Fly,

Congrats on looking to learn the local language.

Having a knowledge of tagalog has helped me so much.

It's a great way to get personal with the locals and they'll appreciate your effort. From the airport and customs staff, to the hotel staff, to the freelancers on the street. It even opens some 'doors' with the 7-11 girls.

It's also an advantage that the girls think that you know, what they're saying about you.

I've always got by with tagalog and english in Cebu.

As for Cebuano, you could pay about $8 per month to use [URL]www.learnbisaya.net[/URL] or similar, or you'll find the basics on YouTube just to please the squeeze.l.[/QUOTE]Thanks Phil, good advice. I was thinking of learning Tagalog, which she also speaks fluently (along with English), but figured Cebuano might be more appropriate and more personal. There's no way I could manage both though, LOL, I am in my 50's and my brain is far less 'plastic' than in youth, plus both languages are such tongue-twisters that one will be enough of a challenge. It astounds me that a sentence in English can be so much shorter, both in total length plus individual words, than the seemingly convoluted multi-syllable Tagalog or Cebuano equivalents!

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;3063630]A question for any here who've learned Cebuano: was there any particular app you used and would recommend, or any online courses, videos etc?[/QUOTE]I found an app called Ling that was (is) very good for cebuano.

The best way to learn any language is to use it, work in a store or charity where you have to use it with the pressure on to use it and you'll pick it up easy as pie.

Speaking of pie, three inches sure likes his grub. Jack Ruby's, Kennedy's killer. That costs plenty and, outside of the cost, gorging is not my thing. Now a good dog steak OTOH.

There was a good story about the British Ambassador to China who took his two little daughters to a meat market where there were dogs for sale and the two little girls demanded, as little girls do, two cute little puppies in the window. The vendor picked them out, smiled and chopped their heads off before giving them to the Ambassador, whose tots were less than happy.

I've had stuff with the locals which made me sick for a week. And without going all John Rambo on it, what the Korean Special Forces eat would make a billy goat puke.

Threeinches turns his nose up at prime dog steak but has no problem bonking skeletons. To each their own.

At least he is honest and I have met many like him, who are here to bonk their lives away. Many cut a pathetic scene going up Walking St on their canes and frames, like the human cows staring into space from Kokos and Phillies. Lost lives but perhaps no more lost than anyone else.

I guess one of the attractions of places like Angeles and Pattaya is old farts casn go along half cut and not get mugged, as would definitely happen in the West. Not so much a second chiuldhood as a second blue pill fueled frat house.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3063704]Remember that there isn't one 'Cebuano'. Different areas have different dialects.
[/QUOTE]Bisiyan can be difficult but now with current level of AI you can combine your immersion with understanding asking clarification on why they use the words what they mean and the derivation of the words which helps to clarify what usage the words carry. The reason why local say "Open the fan" in English because the word for Turn On being Bukas is polysemous something a local with very limited and with a lexicon filled colloquialisms even if they do attend college rarely understand the derivation of words especially their local dialect. So in Tagalog they would incorrectly translate Bukas to mean open in English and in Tagalog turning on a fan as bukas, opening as door as bukas, tomorrow and bukas. They will in turn tell you it means open which in those examples may be confusing. In Bisaya the words differ and don't carry such polysemy for this particular word to turn something electrical on would be suga, turning or opening something manually would be Ablihi and tomorrow would be Bukas in Bisaya. When learning a language knowing the correct derivation for a word you will be well equipped and sound as intelligent as you want to be the languages usage this is not always explained by local dialects and sometimes they are just using words their own language incorrectly or filling their local dialect they don't know the words for with Tagalog or taglish being that you are diving into the derivation of the word instead of the purely relying on usage in the laymen lexicon as that tends to be wrought with offences to the language itself you will beable to clear up misunderstandings much quicker, the girls will often even about their own language be unable to tell you why in Bisaya one word is used instead of another they will just say they don't know. AI solves this barrier to entry and allows you to use her as a resource for learning conversational Bisaya and still be able to understand it. Just keep your phone handy and Load Gemini or ChatGPT and load the live conversation app and ask it to explain the usage and pronunciation and if the usage is correct and when to use it if you don't fully understand.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3063815]At least he is honest and I have met many like him, who are here to bonk their lives away. Many cut a pathetic scene going up Walking St on their canes and frames, like the human cows staring into space from Kokos and Phillies. Lost lives but perhaps no more lost than anyone else.

I guess one of the attractions of places like Angeles and Pattaya is old farts casn go along half cut and not get mugged, as would definitely happen in the West. Not so much a second chiuldhood as a second blue pill fueled frat house.[/QUOTE]They are about to be hit by a tsunami of cheap puss. Some may not survive, even with the little blue pill. Artificial intelligence is about to decimate the call center and BPO industries. This is happening at the same time the Iran-US / Israel War is pushing Filipino OFWs out of the Middle East, while driving energy and food costs higher. That means a flood of desperate women into sex work at the same time that mongers balk at expensive flights and fuel surcharges.

It will not help you in any way, unless you're planning on spending your life in the same spot. They speak a myriad of totally different languages, not variations of a common one. You will not understand another if you have command of one of them.

Learn Tagalo if you want to watch the news, but not to understand conversations, because everybody speaks their local dialect, not Tagalo. On my island just few k of the Cebu mainland they speak Visaya, and on mainland they speak Cebuano, everybody speaks both, because cannot understand eachother. Some tribes speak in broken English to other filipinos when they go to the city for the same reason.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3063917]They are about to be hit by a tsunami of cheap puss. Some may not survive, even with the little blue pill. Artificial intelligence is about to decimate the call center and BPO industries. This is happening at the same time the Iran-US / Israel War is pushing Filipino OFWs out of the Middle East, while driving energy and food costs higher. That means a flood of desperate women into sex work at the same time that mongers balk at expensive flights and fuel surcharges.[/QUOTE]You forgot the Philippines is tooling up against China at a rate of knots and that costs big bucks Marcos does not have. The big one is the OFWs getting booted out, and the race to the bottom with call centres. I had sex with some of them for $$, as their salaries are not great, too many Indians running them.

Although some of the more pathetic expats are fixated on their dicks, the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up. Remove the semblance of law and order and these guys will be back jerking off in Florida if they can still get it up.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3064000]You forgot the Philippines is tooling up against China at a rate of knots and that costs big bucks Marcos does not have. The big one is the OFWs getting booted out, and the race to the bottom with call centres. I had sex with some of them for $$, as their salaries are not great, too many Indians running them.

Although some of the more pathetic expats are fixated on their dicks, the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up. Remove the semblance of law and order and these guys will be back jerking off in Florida if they can still get it up.[/QUOTE]Yeah despite the hate, Indian BPO operators are the biggest spenders in ph.

And Chinese host a lot of Pinoys and import PH banana and fruits.

BTW unrelated, does anybody know the cheapest dating site?

I used Facebook, loaded with Freelancers and scammers.

Looking for some casual connections if ever.

Got my plate Half full in Baguio though.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3064000]You forgot the Philippines is tooling up against China at a rate of knots and that costs big bucks Marcos does not have. The big one is the OFWs getting booted out, and the race to the bottom with call centres. I had sex with some of them for $$, as their salaries are not great, too many Indians running them.

Although some of the more pathetic expats are fixated on their dicks, the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up. Remove the semblance of law and order and these guys will be back jerking off in Florida if they can still get it up.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is tooling up against China, but it is too little, too late. They did little to stop the early stages of the Chinese incursion, and now they are entrenched. Chinese fishing fleets are rapidly depleting Philippine fishing grounds, while their navy is driving off Filipino fishing boats from their traditional fisheries. The Chinese navy is also preventing the Philippines from exploring oil and gas resources within its own Exclusive Economic Zone, leaving it heavily dependent on energy imports for the foreseeable future.

The Philippines faces the challenge of ramping up defense spending during a period of high inflation, weakened growth, and slowing investment. At the same time, it must contend with energy shocks and natural disasters. With high odds of a global recession, remittances are likely to dry up further pressuring Filipino consumers.

Historically, economic downturns in the Philippines often lead to an increase in "acquisitive" crimes like theft and robbery. So, a breakdown of law and order will certainly send even the horniest of expats scampering back to the relative safety of their homelands across the waters. However, many will run into the economic repatriation barrier, unable to return home and restart life at current Western costs. Their options will be remaining in the Philippines as economic exiles or fleeing to a neighboring Southeast Asian country with better conditions.

There are numerous expats in the Philippines who live in remote provincial areas. Some live in nipa huts with a native Pinay to suck their marshmallow, and a few mangy mongrels to drive off thieves. Sometimes, they appear in YouTube videos boasting about living like kings. To them, living like a coconut farmer and rooting their country bumpkin beats jerking off in their condo in Miami or bumping raw raisins with the lovely old hens at their Florida nursing home.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;3063680]This fantastic for the hobby, moving into uncharted territory, pressure on oil is expected to last years. With any luck we maybe moving into a golden era of girls not being able to count on the local online hook up / walker market and gcash transfers and move back to sitting around in bars. These girls are literally starving they don't have food to eat at home, jobless and are "just another mouth to feed". I met with a local girl in the province and in her pictures she was normal looking and supposedly was going to be going to college but she was skin and bone not due to anorexia or illness but starvation.

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.[/QUOTE]Your last paragraph is spot on, couldn't have said it better. I've tried to explain this to the local's but those type of women they have no idea what I'm talking about.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;3063680]This fantastic for the hobby, moving into uncharted territory, pressure on oil is expected to last years. With any luck we maybe moving into a golden era of girls not being able to count on the local online hook up / walker market and gcash transfers and move back to sitting around in bars. These girls are literally starving they don't have food to eat at home, jobless and are "just another mouth to feed". I met with a local girl in the province and in her pictures she was normal looking and supposedly was going to be going to college but she was skin and bone not due to anorexia or illness but starvation.

I spend about 25-40 k per weekend (including travel expenses) and my grocery bill is about 50-70 k a month fueled by my need to eat real food. This doesn't include eating out, Gordon Ramsay Bar & Grill for some, Ruby Jack's Steakhouse & Elbert's Steak Room where I spend a minimum of 10 k. This place really isn't cheap if you have one standard of living let alone "standards".

I don't live here to save money or to live cheaply or to live a local lifestyle I'm here for one reason. Even if I were to exhaust all my savings I could sustain this style of living for 30 years+ most likely indefinitely at least the rest of my life time. I'm here to enjoy as much pussy as possible before I kick the bucket that was never going to happen in America. I don't really see the need to come here and suddenly drop every single one of my western standards. BUT this place still has women that are amazingly naive the unwoke kind here that is worth being here for 100% and paying whatever price that is. American women of any race even filam's the thought of them turns my stomach their very nature is revolting, they send chills down my spine their screeching and Karen logic is unbearable.[/QUOTE]That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.

Expats relocate to the Philippines to enjoy an enhanced quality of life. I'm here for the tropical weather, low cost of living, and the easy poon harpooning.

But I'm sure there are more than a few here to escape nefarious aspects of their past lives.

If you know of an American who is in arrears in unpaid court-ordered child support payments, they soon could be in for a rude surprise, courtesy of the passport division of the USA State Department.

Old overdue threshold was $100,000. Looks like it's soon being dropped to a mere $2,500. The article says if the holder is outside the USA, they will have to apply for an emergency travel document to return to the States and face the music.

I've seen more than my share of foreign beggars on the streets here. I wonder how many of them have decided that living like a bum in paradise is preferable to returning home to face legal justice.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-start-revoking-passports-thousands-192857639.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3063917]They are about to be hit by a tsunami of cheap puss. Some may not survive, even with the little blue pill. Artificial intelligence is about to decimate the call center and BPO industries. This is happening at the same time the Iran-US / Israel War is pushing Filipino OFWs out of the Middle East, while driving energy and food costs higher. That means a flood of desperate women into sex work at the same time that mongers balk at expensive flights and fuel surcharges.[/QUOTE]Jarango: [B]the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up.[/B].

So, its possible that this little hottie will drop both her panty and her price point? I might have to start showering several times daily just to wash her hoo-hah off of me?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3064940]Jarango: [B]the Philippines could go tits up very easily if the remittances dry up.[/B].

So, its possible that this little hottie will drop both her panty and her price point? I might have to start showering several times daily just to wash her hoo-hah off of me?[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, that's a very nice smile.

[QUOTE=Beavis;3064918]That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.[/QUOTE]I covered it before, I spend around $5 K a month to have a regular life, without any other excesses beside pussy. Giving the fact that rent is maybe 1/4 of US for similar, I would say that life in the PH is actually more expensive than US if you want to maintain certain standards. I don't know the latest prices in the US since the Iranian war, but I'm sure that a bell pepper (1 piece) doesn't cost $3 like in the PH.

Jarango: [B]Remove the semblance of law and order and these guys will be back jerking off in Florida if they can still get it up.[/B].

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3064906]There are numerous expats in the Philippines who live in remote provincial areas. SNIP

To them, living like a coconut farmer and rooting their country bumpkin beats jerking off in their condo in Miami or bumping raw raisins with the lovely old hens at their Florida nursing home.[/QUOTE]You fellas been reading my diary? Hmmm?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3064955]I covered it before, I spend around $5 K a month to have a regular life, without any other excesses beside pussy. Giving the fact that rent is maybe 1/4 of US for similar, I would say that life in the PH is actually more expensive than US if you want to maintain certain standards. I don't know the latest prices in the US since the Iranian war, but I'm sure that a bell pepper (1 piece) doesn't cost $3 like in the PH.[/QUOTE]That's the same everywhere. If you want to live like the US, EU or Aus, then stay there. If you're happy to make use of local options only then it makes sense.

Becoming too familiar with the currencies, thinking everything is cheap and disregarding the USD equivalent cost are the dangers. In USD, I've seen some crazy prices: $100 k for a flatscreen Tv when they first came out, $10 for a lettuce, $20 for a small box of Kellogs Cornflakes, $15 for an ice-cream.

I've also had a dinner for $1 per head, a beach side room for $15, kept taxis for days at $2 per hour. There are also slanderous rumours that I paid girls $7 for the weekend (in the good 'ol days) or $40 for a 24 HR LT (now) but those are totally unfounded. 😜.

As always, YMMV. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3064969]That's the same everywhere. If you want to live like the US, EU or Aus, then stay there. If you're happy to make use of local options only then it makes sense.

Becoming too familiar with the currencies, thinking everything is cheap and disregarding the USD equivalent cost are the dangers. In USD, I've seen some crazy prices: $100 k for a flatscreen Tv when they first came out, $10 for a lettuce, $20 for a small box of Kellogs Cornflakes, $15 for an ice-cream.

I've also had a dinner for $1 per head, a beach side room for $15, kept taxis for days at $2 per hour. There are also slanderous rumours that I paid girls $7 for the weekend (in the good 'ol days) or $40 for a 24 HR LT (now) but those are totally unfounded. 😜.

As always, YMMV. G.[/QUOTE]At my age pussy is the prime factor in the equation, everything else is irrelevant. All other expenses can be adjusted, and lifestyle reinvented.

When I first moved here I was living like a Spartan (filipino) 100 P or less can fill you up at the local carinderia, but that was for experimental purposes, and after the experiment ended I reverted to "normality"
I always report to the US prices, because that's where my money comes from, and that's my reference, but I do that both ways: up and down. In the end it doesn't make much sense, the only thing I'm getting out of it is that the system is rigged in such a way for regular shmucks like me, regardless of the country, to get all your money, while keeping you alive to produce some more, only the level of comfort differs. Once you stop working, and don't need to be physically present to produce it, you have the freedom of taking the money allocated to keep you alive in an expensive place, and spend it in another where certain commodities that you're interested into, like "pork belies" or pussy are cheaper. Or maybe the weather is to your liking. And that's exactly what I'm doing.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3064998]Hi, I don't know Indonesia, at all.

Can you tell me if it's possible that a goodlooking old white guy (European) can get a regular girlfriend easily and stay with her full time for a week?

I would like to rent a comfortable apartment, often cook because it is a passion of mine and get a GF experience. Is this possible in Indonesia? In which city? How easy is it?

However, I always give some gifts and money before we part ways.

If all this isn't easy I'd go elsewhere. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Well, from Phils to Madagascar to Indonesia. He's baaaaaack. Jones, give us a FR of your Mindanao honey. Or the Malate honey. Did you find (temporary) true gastro-love?

Jones? Jones?

[QUOTE=Beavis;3064918]That's more like it. I see these posts every day asking if $1,000 per month is enough to live comfortably in the PH. Of course it is always followed by replies like "That's plenty" or "we have a family of 4 and eat out several times per month on less than that. " Maybe if buying 2 - 10 peso lumpia from street vendors is their idea of eating out. The market is considerably cheaper for fresh meat and produce and labor is still cheap but to have a quality of life you need around $1,000 per week.[/QUOTE]1000 a month, maybe in province doing nothing. 1000 a week sure you can do that even more depends on you. I've been coming over a decade and of course prices have gone up. I come back now nice condo in Makati for a month $1500 and spend around 6500 to 7 k when I visit. But this will not be my retirement budget. On my visits I'm wide open, bars every night, movies, dating nice restaurant's drinking allot everyday. I wake up every morning either with a girl I know or a new barfine. I may rest 4 or 5 days the other days its burning the candle at both ends. Could you spend more, I guess but for me ID be dead. I figure retired allot of things will change. One thing I will not go balls to the wall as ill have all the time in the world. Once or twice a week getting laid will be plenty and ill reduce the bars and drinking by allot. I do not need top notch condo just a decent one which can be found 500 to 750 a month, got buddies in those, they are fine. I figure 2 to 2500 will be fine probably more than enough, its just a matter of pace. Buddies on pension have no problem with this amount. Throw in some cheap province girls as when your there you'll have time to look around and meet. They all tell me you got 3 k you'll have plenty of fun, again its pace, balls to the wall will not be necessary anymore.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;3065348]1000 a month, maybe in province doing nothing. 1000 a week sure you can do that even more depends on you. I've been coming over a decade and of course prices have gone up. I come back now nice condo in Makati for a month $1500 and spend around 6500 to 7 k when I visit. But this will not be my retirement budget. On my visits I'm wide open, bars every night, movies, dating nice restaurant's drinking allot everyday. I wake up every morning either with a girl I know or a new barfine. I may rest 4 or 5 days the other days its burning the candle at both ends. Could you spend more, I guess but for me ID be dead. I figure retired allot of things will change. One thing I will not go balls to the wall as ill have all the time in the world. Once or twice a week getting laid will be plenty and ill reduce the bars and drinking by allot. I do not need top notch condo just a decent one which can be found 500 to 750 a month, got buddies in those, they are fine. I figure 2 to 2500 will be fine probably more than enough, its just a matter of pace. Buddies on pension have no problem with this amount. Throw in some cheap province girls as when your there you'll have time to look around and meet. They all tell me you got 3 k you'll have plenty of fun, again its pace, balls to the wall will not be necessary anymore.[/QUOTE]As a tourist, I spend about $US5 k per month. Some things that might be different in my case:

I'm a Cheap Charlie generally.

I don't need five star hotels but I do need western food.

I don't drink nor bar hop very much at all. Maybe binge one night for the whole trip.

I know the lay of the land and have an extensive Contacts list so my $/ shot is pretty low. Having said that, multiple girls per day isn't a rarity.

I travel around a lot while in country. This adds to my travel expenses and nightly accommodation costs.

Settling in one place would halve my housing and food costs. I doubt I would save any pussy costs.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3060846]Where I live, $1500/ mo would cover your rent and maybe your utilities for a very basic lifestyle. Certainly no eating out, rental pussy or social life. Most financial advisors peg a basic retirement at $30 k per year. Anything above subsistence living will be closer to $50 k at least. Again, no financial planners seem to include fucking 19 yo students in their spreadsheets.

I enjoy the Philippines but living there full time would drive me nuts. I've also got commitments back home. Hence, I fall into the category above the two week warrior but short of the full time resident. A 58 day stay cost me about US $5 k per month inclusive of everything:

$1000 International travel & visas.

$250 Domestic travel (P100/ day taxis and P1000/ week for bus or flights).

$2000 Hotels (2 star but good location).

$2000 Food & Drinks (P1500 per day for Western meals for me plus the occasional guest. I'm not a big drinker nor barfly).

$2000 Girls (P2000/ day province babe + 15 k Makati / Burgos blow out before leaving).

$1000 Sourcing costs (first dates, meals for her friends, finders fees, internet subscriptions etc).

$1000 Entertainment & Non mongering (P4000/ day diving plus tourist trips etc).

$500 Data & Incidentals.

Generally, I travel light, live simply but move around a lot. Relocating has its costs as I don't get cheaper monthly rentals but has the advantage of if I like somewhere, I stay, if I don't, then I move elsewhere.

As a comparison, a domestic holiday would cost the same weekly, not monthly and there would be no pussy included. Certainly no 20 yo pussy.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3065371]As a tourist, I spend about $US5 k per month. Some things that might be different in my case:

I'm a Cheap Charlie generally.

I don't need five star hotels but I do need western food.

I don't drink nor bar hop very much at all. Maybe binge one night for the whole trip.

I know the lay of the land and have an extensive Contacts list so my $/ shot is pretty low. Having said that, multiple girls per day isn't a rarity.

I travel around a lot while in country. This adds to my travel expenses and nightly accommodation costs.

Settling in one place would halve my housing and food costs. I doubt I would save any pussy costs.[/QUOTE]Another Cheap Charlie here G.

I don't need five star but can eat locally as opposed to Western. Except maybe street vendors.

I don't do the girly bars, but I do drink on the cheap. 7-11's in The Phils get raided of SML and Tanduay for when I want to relax with a bevvy at the hotel, or treat the girls to about three Red Horses. Any more than that can be problematic from experience.

Because my trips are business orientated to begin with, I need to have things planned in advance. So there's not a chance to make decisions on the run, like I used to when I was a fair bit younger. Therefore I have to sort an itinerary and hotels upfront.

I too had an extensive contact list. But I've trimmed it right back. Every now and then you need fresh talent, and even the ones you block on WhatsApp, still find a way of trying to contact you. The great thing about having the contact list is, you know you can get results immediately whilst looking for other options.

Great call from you a while back to keep a different phone just for The Phils.

Everyone has different personal expenses to consider. So it's hard to say how much money anyone would need to live or stay long-term.

If I didn't take the profitable FL route I'm experienced with, and started paying unreasonable bar fines, budgets would dramatically change for me.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3065507]Another pic for the fellas who like the smile. Or pretty gals. Or mocha skin. Or beautiful hair. Or schwanztooga-lickin' (its a bit like KFC). Or a gal who brings a bestie to man the camera while she p*rns up the room.

So many things to like here. Still spending more time most days washing the excess poon-juice off myself.[/QUOTE]Personally, I like all of the above mentioned things, but the smiles make my day.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3065589]Another Cheap Charlie here G.

I don't need five star but can eat locally as opposed to Western. Except maybe street vendors.

Because my trips are business orientated to begin with, I need to have things planned in advance. So there's not a chance to make decisions on the run, like I used to when I was a fair bit younger. Therefore I have to sort an itinerary and hotels upfront.

I too had an extensive contact list. But I've trimmed it right back. Every now and then you need fresh talent, and even the ones you block on WhatsApp, still find a way of trying to contact you. The great thing about having the contact list is, you know you can get results immediately whilst looking for other options.

If I didn't take the profitable FL route I'm experienced with, and started paying unreasonable bar fines, budgets would dramatically change for me.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I still eat well in the Philippines but I will admit I do miss the food from other Asian countries where I can walk into any restaurant and find a delicious meal. A personal favourite is Thailand, Indonesia etc with Michelin rated cholera carts on every corner. Their street food is delicious.

I'm the opposite: I pack light and book accommodation a few days at a time. If I'm having a good time, then I stay. If I'm over it, I move on. Its nothing unusual for me to wake up, decide that it's time to move on and be in another town by lunchtime.

My contacts serve multiple purposes. Most cities I go to now have zero set up time and known entities provide a good fall back if the apps aren't providing or there is a drought for whatever reason. My contacts also cover the full range: wild childs to librarians who are closet nymphos; stunning 19 yos to hot mamas who are built for comfort. I keep a couple who's expertise is to get blood from a stone when I'm tired and empty towards the end of a trip.

Bars serve a purpose for some guys just not me anymore. It doesn't help that I have fond memories of times when bargirls were hot, fresh and fun. Let's not discuss dance troupes and pole dancers who were truely entertaining. Now I can't sit and watch a bored girl shuffle around a pole only to be over charged for drinks and mediocre service.

All of the above are why I enjoy getting off the tourist track.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3035070]Smart Girl Philippines / Irish, is back, with some advice for getting laid. First piece of advice: Have a ticket booked when chatting up girls. Everything else is bolabola.

"That's because [B]winners[/B] have tickets [B]booked[/B]. Losers have [B]plans[/B]. And when you talk about plans, [B]she loses interest, and her legs start to close[/B]. So actions and tangible proof are extremely powerful in the hearts and minds [B]and the panties[/B] of filipinas".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEVjtNnvLpE[/URL]

Foreigner order of priority for filipinas:

1) Boots on the ground. 2) Have a ticket. 3) Everyone else*.

* More poon for 1) and 2), thank-you-very-much.[/QUOTE]I just started following her on youtube. Is her advice pretty sound or is it just shit?

[QUOTE=Superjet;3066739]I just started following her on youtube. Is her advice pretty sound or is it just shit?[/QUOTE]Westies advice was accurate when written but that was then, this is now. Now, by far the most attractive foreigner online to a Pina is some one back home who can be moulded into a LDR simp or Sponsor. Bonus points of he is recently divorced, lonely but has commitments that stop him coming to the country for a year or two. Two years of dead grandmas, sick buffaloes, new phones and maybe even a new house. This also gives her elbow room to have half a dozen guys in parallel paying to be the one and only.

The red flags are: if she is too good to be true (18 or 19 hottie who is quick with 'age is only a number'). No income, no job, no assets but sends bikini shots around resort pools; lives in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by jungle, dropped out of school at 12 but speaks perfect English; has encyclopaedic knowledge and instant recall of how remittance services and money transfers work.

Think I'm wrong? I have had many instances where girls were fascinated when they met me and happy to chat only to ghost me the instant they found out I was in country or even worse in town.

Remedies: it's a numbers game so keep going and find the diamonds in the rough; if you can't beat them join them by becoming a sidedick, getting cut price pussy while daddy is paying the condo lease, sisters exam fees, allowances etc. Be sure to highlight that you are only in town for a few weeks so won't be cramping her style.

After these, you have the also-ran's who actually meet guys. For these, in town now beats in country but another town beats tickets purchased beats cound be maybe might come sometime.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Superjet;3066739]I just started following her on youtube. Is her advice pretty sound or is it just shit?[/QUOTE]There are two vloggers I would recommend others follow. One is Smart Girl Irish, as in the vid link. The other is The Filipina Pea. Both ladies speak good english and "tell it like it is". SGI covers the raunch side of life in Phils more.

However, a caution: These ladies' intended audience is expats, or at least fellas interested in dating pinay. Their vids might be useful to the 2-week warriors, who return regularly and are interested in what makes filipina tick, but moreso their vids are for fellas wanting to live here for long periods of time. They are not talking about fellas who want to get into a pinay's panties TONIGHT, rather they are giving advice on how to win everyday pinay over to *your* end-game (including the raunch). Additionally both ladies admit that its easy to get into pinay panties. I've heard the same rumor myself.

Hey all,

Is it possible to send photos in private messages? I was trying to send something to a member and I just can't find any method to do so.

Thanks,

Baddhabbit.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3068449]Hey all,

Is it possible to send photos in private messages? I was trying to send something to a member and I just can't find any method to do so.

Thanks,

Baddhabbit.[/QUOTE]No, I don't think so.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3068449]Hey all,

Is it possible to send photos in private messages? I was trying to send something to a member and I just can't find any method to do so.

Thanks,

Baddhabbit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WestCoast1;3068455]No, I don't think so.[/QUOTE]WestCoast is right. You'll need to post it somewhere online like and then put a link to it in your DM.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3068455]No, I don't think so.[/QUOTE]Well, bugger. That was the conclusion I had reached, but I was holding that one last hope that maybe I was just being obtuse. C'est la vie.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3068466]Well, bugger. That was the conclusion I had reached, but I was holding that one last hope that maybe I was just being obtuse. C'est la vie.[/QUOTE]Member can trade WhatsApp numbers or similar via PM then send as many photos or videos as you want.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3068472]Member can trade WhatsApp numbers or similar via PM then send as many photos or videos as you want.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's what we've now done. Thanks!

Hi guys, just a quick question.

Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils?

Just wondering if there are any obvious advantages, apart from using hotel wifi and the like?

For example, setting the available server location to one in The Phils for online searches.

I've recently been advised to use one at home for work purposes and gaining access to certain websites.

It's all a bit new to me.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3070307]Hi guys, just a quick question.

Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils?

Just wondering if there are any obvious advantages, apart from using hotel wifi and the like?

For example, setting the available server location to one in The Phils for online searches.

I've recently been advised to use one at home for work purposes and gaining access to certain websites.

It's all a bit new to me.l.[/QUOTE]I constantly use NordVPN on my phone and tablet (and computers when I am home). 1. Some US websites and apps (one of my banks) will not let you logon if you are showing out of the USA. 2. I download torrents and have received cease and desist letters from studios about copyright violations. And like you say some networks will block sites like ISG if you are not using a VPN. I buy the 2 year plan.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3070307]Hi guys, just a quick question.

Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils?

Just wondering if there are any obvious advantages, apart from using hotel wifi and the like?

For example, setting the available server location to one in The Phils for online searches.

I've recently been advised to use one at home for work purposes and gaining access to certain websites.

It's all a bit new to me.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]I use one all the time whether I'm at home or abroad. I'm no IT whizz but it's meant to prevent (or reduce) websites being able collect your data / browsing history etc. In the UK it's essential now if you want to access porn sites. You have to set the vpn to a foreign server otherwise you need to confirm you're over 18 by inputting credit card info.

Using a VPN on my phone at work means I can use the work WiFi without them knowing who is accessing specific sites. I wouldn't access porn at work anyway but I wouldn't want them to know I occasionally browse dating websites during my lunch break LOL.

Basically there's not a good reason NOT to use one as far as I can tell.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3070307]Hi guys, just a quick question.

Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils? _Phil.[/QUOTE]Yes, I rarely run a a device without full e-2-e encryption. Its not quite as anonymous as the VPN vendors would like you to think, but its a good security step.

Like ME, I have a bank in my home country that does not allow login access if I am outside the US, so VPN-ing thru LA or LV is the saving grace. There are still a number of websites (http) that don't encrypt your data (https). ISG is one of those sites.

Downside: VPN vendors sometimes advertise that you can get Netflix or other streaming bigs access from outside your home country by using their VPN server inside of your home country. But the bigs know all the VPN servers and often restrict access based on that.

The ISP's (Globe, Smart, Xfinity, etc) routinely try to subvert or work around your VPN so they can see your web traffic (they don't make much money from your monthly internet fee; they make tons of money selling your browsing history and identity to advertisers).

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;3070338]Basically there's not a good reason NOT to use one as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]Concur.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3070307]Hi guys, just a quick question.Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils?
Just wondering if there are any obvious advantages, apart from using hotel wifi and the like?
_Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for your input and tips.

It makes sense.

Quite a few times I've been unable to access my bank at home when in The Phils.

And my browsing history can be quite interesting to say the least Westie.

_Phil.

JonesLover.

Posts: 372.

Originally Posted by OldAndUgly:

"You didn't told us in the PH forum how did it go for you after your PH visit, mongerers are still waiting for your report. ".

Ahahaha, yes, they have to wait a long because I didn't meet any girl. Or better, only one and then only ladyboys wanted to know me.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071026]JonesLover.

Posts: 372.

Originally Posted by OldAndUgly:

"You didn't told us in the PH forum how did it go for you after your PH visit, mongerers are still waiting for your report. ".

Ahahaha, yes, they have to wait a long because I didn't meet any girl. Or better, only one and then only ladyboys wanted to know me.[/QUOTE]And? We are shocked to hear that JL whiffed in Phils. Additionally we are completely shocked that he did not file a report.

OAU, good catch.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071026]JonesLover.

Posts: 372.

Originally Posted by OldAndUgly:

"You didn't told us in the PH forum how did it go for you after your PH visit, mongerers are still waiting for your report. ".

Ahahaha, yes, they have to wait a long because I didn't meet any girl. Or better, only one and then only ladyboys wanted to know me.[/QUOTE]LOL. After all that bullshit.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3071034]And? We are shocked to hear that JL whiffed in Phils. Additionally we are completely shocked that he did not file a report.

OAU, good catch.[/QUOTE]Regardless, this is just one more example that too much planning ahead of time doesn't lead anywhere.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071067]Regardless, this is just one more example that too much planning ahead of time doesn't lead anywhere.[/QUOTE]Agreed Ugly,

And the waste of time replying to his private messages.

Buy a flight ticket, book a hotel in Angeles, Manila, Subic or Sabang.

Get on Pina Love, hit up freelancers on the street or hit the bars.

Pay too much for everything but have a great time.

Learn from your mistakes and work out how to spot a Bakla.

And return with experience and a different plan of attack that suits your needs.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3070307]Hi guys, just a quick question.

Has anyone used a VPN (Virtual Private Network) on their devices when in The Phils?

Just wondering if there are any obvious advantages, apart from using hotel wifi and the like?

For example, setting the available server location to one in The Phils for online searches.

I've recently been advised to use one at home for work purposes and gaining access to certain websites.

It's all a bit new to me.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago when I was in the Philippines I tried using VPN in different locations when on Agoda to see if hotel prices would be different depending on where I set the VPN. I was looking for hotels in Subic and Sabang and didn't notice any big differences in prices. It was kind of a pain because it would report the price in the currency where I set the VPN. Like if I set the VPN to show I am in Bangkok then all the hotel prices would be in Thai Baht and I would need to convert back to USD.

[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;3071107]A couple years ago when I was in the Philippines I tried using VPN in different locations when on Agoda to see if hotel prices would be different depending on where I set the VPN. I was looking for hotels in Subic and Sabang and didn't notice any big differences in prices. It was kind of a pain because it would report the price in the currency where I set the VPN. Like if I set the VPN to show I am in Bangkok then all the hotel prices would be in Thai Baht and I would need to convert back to USD.[/QUOTE]I'm using proton vpn for bankong, but ISG doesn't work with the vpn on.

[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;3071107]A couple years ago when I was in the Philippines I tried using VPN in different locations when on Agoda to see if hotel prices would be different depending on where I set the VPN. I was looking for hotels in Subic and Sabang and didn't notice any big differences in prices. It was kind of a pain because it would report the price in the currency where I set the VPN. Like if I set the VPN to show I am in Bangkok then all the hotel prices would be in Thai Baht and I would need to convert back to USD.[/QUOTE]On Agoda you can change the currency in the upper tool bar.

[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;3071107]It was kind of a pain because it would report the price in the currency where I set the VPN. Like if I set the VPN to show I am in Bangkok then all the hotel prices would be in Thai Baht and I would need to convert back to USD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3071169]On Agoda you can change the currency in the upper tool bar.[/QUOTE]See pic. You can change the language and the currency. Same problem exists when looking at flights on google or kayak (pics 2 and 3).

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071131]I'm using proton vpn for bankong, but ISG doesn't work with the vpn on.[/QUOTE]ISG stopped working with my VPN about 6 months ago. I had to attempt different VPN settings, changing protocols from wireguard to OpenVPN, and changing city from what I had used before, and dropped obfuscation. It was an experimentation pain, but its solid now. ISG is in the minority of sites that don't use login encryption (see pic 4); I never browse here unless I'm VPN'd. Browsing unencrypted websites is giving away your username and password to any bad (or State) actor, and also without a VPN you are giving your entire browsing info to your ISP (they, of course, would never sell it -- or turn it over to LE).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3071189]See pic. You can change the language and the currency. Same problem exists when looking at flights on google or kayak (pics 2 and 3).

ISG stopped working with my VPN about 6 months ago. I had to attempt different VPN settings, changing protocols from wireguard to OpenVPN, and changing city from what I had used before, and dropped obfuscation. It was an experimentation pain, but its solid now. ISG is in the minority of sites that don't use login encryption (see pic 4); I never browse here unless I'm VPN'd. Browsing unencrypted websites is giving away your username and password to any bad (or State) actor, and also without a VPN you are giving your entire browsing info to your ISP (they, of course, would never sell it -- or turn it over to LE).[/QUOTE]I do move around a lot, and I just keep in mind a rough currency exchange rate, when browsing for air or hotels, anyway a few $ more or less it's not going to make a difference. For example if the price is in Peso, I just divide by 50 (I know is 60.5) for an easy mental picture, or in Indonesia divide by 15000 instead of 16849 or whatever. Much easier than fighting the regional settings of search engines.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3071189]ISG stopped working with my VPN about 6 months ago. I had to attempt different VPN settings, changing protocols from wireguard to OpenVPN, and changing city from what I had used before, and dropped obfuscation. It was an experimentation pain, but its solid now. ISG is in the minority of sites that don't use login encryption (see pic 4); I never browse here unless I'm VPN'd. Browsing unencrypted websites is giving away your username and password to any bad (or State) actor, and also without a VPN you are giving your entire browsing info to your ISP (they, of course, would never sell it -- or turn it over to LE).[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see that I have not been the only one who's had a problem using a VPN with this site. Several months ago it had gotten totally out of hand, making coming to the site an annoyance and a real pain. All the freezing up! But I too have noticed that things seem to have gotten much better in recent times. I experimented and made all kinds of adjustments to my VPN as well. I don't know if anything has been happening behind the scenes with the site that may have also helped. Additionally, I made some adjustments to my preferred browser which I seems to have made a difference.

Does anyone know how to search for posts with photos?

Eg find all goferring's photos that have been posted in the site? Or, even better, goferring's photos with the word "Davao"?

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071276]Does anyone know how to search for posts with photos? Eg find all goferring's photos that have been posted in the site? Or, even better, goferring's photos with the word "Davao"?[/QUOTE]There is no filter in the Advanced Search, so not to my knowledge. However, there is a brute force way with limitations. Go to the Photo Gallery TAB and filter by date range, forum (eg the Philippines) and sort by User Name. I did an example of all photos posted over the past 2 years to the Philippines forum sorted by user name. To find your posts, had to click through to Page 5. See attached. Only limitation is that the database will return only 3000 hits, so if you go back the maximum 6 years, the database will force you to refine the search. Enjoy, AR.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3071321]There is no filter in the Advanced Search, so not to my knowledge. However, there is a brute force way with limitations. Go to the Photo Gallery TAB and filter by date range, forum (eg the Philippines) and sort by User Name. I did an example of all photos posted over the past 2 years to the Philippines forum sorted by user name. To find your posts, had to click through to Page 5. See attached. Only limitation is that the database will return only 3000 hits, so if you go back the maximum 6 years, the database will force you to refine the search. Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]Good catch AR.

Pics attached. Go's stuff starts on page 4 of said search, and ends on page 5.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3071321]There is no filter in the Advanced Search, so not to my knowledge. However, there is a brute force way with limitations. Go to the Photo Gallery TAB and filter by date range, forum (eg the Philippines) and sort by User Name. I did an example of all photos posted over the past 2 years to the Philippines forum sorted by user name. To find your posts, had to click through to Page 5. See attached. Only limitation is that the database will return only 3000 hits, so if you go back the maximum 6 years, the database will force you to refine the search. Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3071321]There is no filter in the Advanced Search, so not to my knowledge. However, there is a brute force way with limitations. Go to the Photo Gallery TAB and filter by date range, forum (eg the Philippines) and sort by User Name. I did an example of all photos posted over the past 2 years to the Philippines forum sorted by user name. To find your posts, had to click through to Page 5. See attached. Only limitation is that the database will return only 3000 hits, so if you go back the maximum 6 years, the database will force you to refine the search. Enjoy, AR.[/QUOTE]Strange. I can see the words 'Filter By', but not the fields Date Range, Forum, and Sort By. So there's nothing that I can apply a filter with.
And I'm logged in, so that's not the problem.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3071349]Strange. I can see the words 'Filter By', but not the fields Date Range, Forum, and Sort By. So there's nothing that I can apply a filter with.
And I'm logged in, so that's not the problem.[/QUOTE]West Coast has a very detailed set of pics below. Note that you need to go to the Photo Gallery TAB (look at the top of the page between What's New and Abbreviations) and not the Photo Gallery Thread. Hopefully this helps. AR.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3071349]Strange. I can see the words 'Filter By', but not the fields Date Range, Forum, and Sort By. So there's nothing that I can apply a filter with.
And I'm logged in, so that's not the problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3071361]West Coast has a very detailed set of pics below. Note that you need to go to the Photo Gallery TAB (look at the top of the page between What's New and Abbreviations) and not the Photo Gallery Thread. Hopefully this helps. AR.[/QUOTE]Yes, see the pic. Follow the green arrow and click that first. On the next page, set the filter, date range, and Sort By.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3071371]Yes, see the pic. Follow the green arrow and click that first. On the next page, set the filter, date range, and Sort By.[/QUOTE]That's what I did. But there is nothing behind 'Filter by'.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3071373]That's what I did. But there is nothing behind 'Filter by'.[/QUOTE]I've noticed that the ISG page has been glitchy and very slow lately.

It looks like you are in the right page. Try to refresh it or go back one page and try again.

The search can be very slow as there can be many photos spanning many years.

As an aside, you can split up the max 3000 results by breaking up the years. Last year is 0 to 12 months ago; 2 years ago is months 13 to 24 (not 0 to 24) etc.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3071373]That's what I did. But there is nothing behind 'Filter by'.[/QUOTE]I've just tested it and it does work for me. Perhaps try a different browser?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3071371]Yes, see the pic. Follow the green arrow and click that first. On the next page, set the filter, date range, and Sort By.[/QUOTE]I just revisited some of my old forgotten pics from many years ago before I was Old and Ugly, back when I was only ugly, hahaha. Actually I had another user name, and for some odd reason I wasn't able to log in no more, so I simply started again with a new one.
But not in the PH forum, because the nr of results exceeded max allowed of 3000

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3071390]I've just tested it and it does work for me. Perhaps try a different browser?[/QUOTE]Thanks, that was indeed the problem. It doesn't work in Opera, but it does work in Edge.

Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me.

Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:

Vibrators $2-5.

Lingerie $1-2.

Maid costumes $5-10.

Plugs $1-2.

Has anyone bought similar items in country?

Are these legit? Do they actually arrive? Quality ok (not covered in plastic flashing that's going to cut girls up)?

If they are legit, I'm thinking of buying a range and just leave them with special friends when I return home. Possibly $50 very well spent. 😜.

What's the best way to get delivery if I'm only staying a few days to a week in any one place?. I'm assuming Manila delivery is the fastest. Maybe preorder for my first night there.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices: Has anyone bought similar items in country?

Are these legit? Do they actually arrive? Quality ok (not covered in plastic flashing that's going to cut girls up)?[/QUOTE]I swear by Lazada in Thailand. Being back and forth from the States, many things that I would buy on Amazon, I look for on Lazada. All the shit comes from China anyway. I save all the stuff to my wish list, then about 1 week before I arrive in Thailand I place my order. Last month on Lazada I paid $32 for a garage mat for my motorcycle that cost $129 on Amazon. I also paid $11 for a motorcycle cruise control on Lazada that was $155 on Amazon. You want to be careful if you are buying clothes and shoes. If you are buying it for an Asian, then it will be okay. But if you are buying it for a Westerner, then it will always be too small. When I bought a fishing vest from Lazada, I knew to order a 5 XL when normally I would have bought XL in the States. Shirts and shoes I have had to send back or give away because they were too small. No problem with the sex toys.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me.Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:Vibrators $2-5.Lingerie $1-2.Maid costumes $5-10.Plugs $1-2.
Has anyone bought similar items in country?Are these legit? Do they actually arrive? Quality ok (not covered in plastic flashing that's going to cut girls up)?
If they are legit, I'm thinking of buying a range and just leave them with special friends when I return home. Possibly $50 very well spent. 😜.
What's the best way to get delivery if I'm only staying a few days to a week in any one place?. I'm assuming Manila delivery is the fastest. Maybe preorder for my first night there.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]When I am in manila I pretty much have multiple packages being delivered everyday. Lazada, shoppee, IG, and temu are the ones I use. Depending upon which app you use, you are able to filter sellers location and sort of predict when they will arrive. Currently IG is probably the best of the bunch to use. As long as you don't have unreasonable expectations, you won't be disappointed, the items are on par with the stuff you buy at divi.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me.

Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:

Vibrators $2-5.

Lingerie $1-2.

Maid costumes $5-10.

Plugs $1-2.

Has anyone bought similar items in country?

Are these legit? Do they actually arrive? Quality ok (not covered in plastic flashing that's going to cut girls up)?

If they are legit, I'm thinking of buying a range and just leave them with special friends when I return home. Possibly $50 very well spent. 😜.

What's the best way to get delivery if I'm only staying a few days to a week in any one place?. I'm assuming Manila delivery is the fastest. Maybe preorder for my first night there.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]I buy stuff everyday. It comes in black or white plastic bags.

Lots of scams, got scammed twice, first a pair of used dirty shorts, no big deal, and second time a 5000 P industrial fan. Nothing to do about it, the seller disappeared, "it's the pilipins".

Make sure the store has a real name not xrtzx, and it has reviews.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me.

Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:

Vibrators $2-5.[/QUOTE]If you are concerned about bringing them from home through customs, just tell the customs inspector that you suffer from chronic prostatitis and the vibrators were prescribed by your urologist for a frequent regimen of prostate massages. You can give the wife the same explanation, and even demonstrate how you use them for prostatic relief.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3071673]I buy stuff everyday. It comes in black or white plastic bags.

Lots of scams, got scammed twice, first a pair of used dirty shorts, no big deal, and second time a 5000 P industrial fan. Nothing to do about it, the seller disappeared, "it's the pilipins".

Make sure the store has a real name not xrtzx, and it has reviews.[/QUOTE]Last year I was looking to buy something in Thailand. My girlfriend found it on Instagram. I do not have Instagram so I left it to her. She gave me the QR code to send the $60 and after I sent it the person blocked her. She profusely apologized, saying they had a lot of reviews and everything, but all I could do was laugh. I have had no problem buying things on facebook though.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me. Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:
Vibrators $2-5.

Lingerie $1-2.

Maid costumes $5-10.

Plugs $1-2.

Has anyone bought similar items in country?

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Our lingerie business sells them in Australia G. But I only take plugs and glass, or regular dildos, with me when I travel. Lithium batteries in the vibes are a customs issue.

So I can see why you'd be interested getting them cheap online in The Phils.

I think your biggest issue would be sorting out how long you are staying in one spot and the delivery estimation time as Tranny mentioned.

There's a few good vibe shops near Makati and around Mango in Cebu. A bit hard to find, but let me know if you're stuck.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3071848]Our lingerie business sells them in Australia G. But I only take plugs and glass, or regular dildos, with me when I travel. Lithium batteries in the vibes are a customs issue.

So I can see why you'd be interested getting them cheap online in The Phils.

I think your biggest issue would be sorting out how long you are staying in one spot and the delivery estimation time as Tranny mentioned.

There's a few good vibe shops near Makati and around Mango in Cebu. A bit hard to find, but let me know if you're stuck.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Most of the Lazada shops are advertising about 3 days shipping. I'm assuming that's to Metro Manila with the provinces longer. I can live with that by either placing an order two days before arrival or planning on a four day stopover upon arrival.

For those recommending IG, I never even knew IG had a Marketplace. I've never used it and would feel more comfortable with Lazada ratings, guaranteed shipping times etc. I'm not chasing A grade quality and durability as everything would be donated or left behind at the end of my 59 days.

The next obstacle is to work out a shipping address for a hotel or Airbnb but that shouldn't be too hard.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3071613]Last trip I had several girls want to try a walk on the wild side so I'm considering getting a few toys and novelties upon arrival. For various reasons I can't pack them at home and bring them with me.

Lazada Philippines is showing items at stupid cheap prices:

Vibrators $2-5.

Lingerie $1-2.

Maid costumes $5-10.

Plugs $1-2.

Has anyone bought similar items in country?.[/QUOTE]You can ordered them in advance from Amazon and have them delivered to your hotel in advance. Some items over $49 are free delivery. I find these shy girls like to take the toys home with them!

Bought 10 tabs packet of 100 MG from Generics Pharmacy made by Drugmaker's Laboratories Inc, and distributed by TGP Pharma, in Phils. One tab has no effect. Anyone here used these. Assume they're safe.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3072107]Bought 10 tabs packet of 100 MG from Generics Pharmacy made by Drugmaker's Laboratories Inc, and distributed by TGP Pharma, in Phils. One tab has no effect. Anyone here used these. Assume they're safe.[/QUOTE]Perhaps not exactly what you asked but my experience with ED meds in PH has not been good:

Years ago, when Viagra was first released, I took one genuine tablet. I was much younger then and it was purely for recreational and experimental use. There was no medical or performance need. It gave me horrendous headaches and upset stomach and left me with a semi for the full day. Not a pleasant experience and I have never tried it again since.

About two years ago, I had a session where I would get hard but was unable to climax so I tried 20 MG of Cialis daily. Again, an upset stomach and no improvement in ability to climax (my ability to get hard was never a problem). Due to no improvement, I also stopped taking them and never tried again.

I no longer take any ED meds. I can still get hard at will. However, climaxing may not happen after being particularly greedy or many days into a visit. My solution has been to either pace my self, accept fucking with out climax and / or call in girls I know who I know are especially skilled at getting me across the line.

I know other guys who have been very happy with locally sourced ED meds. I'm just not one of them.

Apologies for too much information.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3072107]Bought 10 tabs packet of 100 MG from Generics Pharmacy made by Drugmaker's Laboratories Inc, and distributed by TGP Pharma, in Phils. One tab has no effect. Anyone here used these. Assume they're safe.[/QUOTE]Location of TGP?

I have purchased similar from TGP between the Sogo and Andok's at the Burgos / Makati Ave corner. No problems.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3072114]Perhaps not exactly what you asked but my experience with ED meds in PH has not been good:

Years ago, when Viagra was first released, I took one genuine tablet. I was much younger then and it was purely for recreational and experimental use. There was no medical or performance need. It gave me horrendous headaches and upset stomach and left me with a semi for the full day. Not a pleasant experience and I have never tried it again since.

About two years ago, I had a session where I would get hard but was unable to climax so I tried 20 MG of Cialis daily. Again, an upset stomach and no improvement in ability to climax (my ability to get hard was never a problem). Due to no improvement, I also stopped taking them and never tried again.

I no longer take any ED meds. I can still get hard at will. However, climaxing may not happen after being particularly greedy or many days into a visit. My solution has been to either pace my self, accept fucking with out climax and / or call in girls I know who I know are especially skilled at getting me across the line..[/QUOTE]Years ago, after the first batches of dodgy generic Viagra pills hit the market, mongers were reporting loss of consciousness, heart palpitations, and priapism across Thailand and the Philippines. Many of the cases were caused by guys ingesting 100 milligrams of sildenafil citrate with the intention to wear out some poor bar girl's pussy all night. This was four times the 25 milligrams that they should have started out with, especially with pills from sources with questionable quality control. Some of the pills may have been a bit overclocked on the amount of effective ingredient. Another factor was that many guys were consuming the drug without a medical prescription while having medical conditions that prohibited its use.

Years ago, in Angeles City, there was a rash of elderly mongers being found dead in hotel rooms with stashes of dick pills and bottles of liquor.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3072128]Location of TGP?

I have purchased similar from TGP between the Sogo and Andok's at the Burgos / Makati Ave corner. No problems.[/QUOTE]Bought at Alona Beach on Panglao, Tawala branch, just near Jumbo Crab Bohol.

Have felt no effects one way or another for six hours.

AI tells me tha the cheapest hotels sre in Manils, Cebu and Palawan. They put that down to abundant supply but I would have thugh places out in the sticks would be cheaper as smaller demand.

I am planning another lengthy visit and cheap laces have their advances if bonking is the name of the game. My requirements are simple: door, lock, water, bed, desk, air con if hot. No point paying for extras, though I have stayed in places where extras were very much on the menu.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3072170]AI tells me tha the cheapest hotels sre in Manils, Cebu and Palawan. They put that down to abundant supply but I would have thugh places out in the sticks would be cheaper as smaller demand.[/QUOTE]You're experiencing Asian supply and demand. When demand goes down, price goes up. Why? Who knows.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3072107]Bought 10 tabs packet of 100 MG from Generics Pharmacy made by Drugmaker's Laboratories Inc, and distributed by TGP Pharma, in Phils. One tab has no effect. Anyone here used these. Assume they're safe.[/QUOTE]I've gotten the 50 MG sildenafil tablet from Southstar Drug on Fields Ave. Worked fine for me.

[QUOTE=Karikamiya;3072249]You're experiencing Asian supply and demand. When demand goes down, price goes up. Why? Who knows.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the real world.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3072132]Years ago, in Angeles City, there was a rash of elderly mongers being found dead in hotel rooms with stashes of dick pills and bottles of liquor.[/QUOTE]Can't think of a better way to go out.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3072420]Can't think of a better way to go out.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Word was like Rockfeller, they had a hard time closing the caskets until the pills wore off.

GG.

[QUOTE=KingSquared;3072281]I've gotten the 50 MG sildenafil tablet from Southstar Drug on Fields Ave. Worked fine for me.[/QUOTE]Save some money and buy the 100 MG and a pill cutter for 79 pesos. 5 100 MG comes in a box. Check the best use date on them. It gives me a goal!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3072712]Save some money and buy the 100 MG and a pill cutter for 79 pesos. 5 100 MG comes in a box. Check the best use date on them. It gives me a goal![/QUOTE]When in the US just buy generic 100 MG sildenafil from Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs, 90 for $15 delivered. Works out to about 10 pesos a pill and the source is certified by the FDA. That's what I do when I need more.

My 12-Night Romp in the Philippines!

Welcome to the Philippines!

Why the Philippines?

I returned because I had a great time my last trip two-years ago.

My itinerary was:

Manila – Four nights at New Coast Hotel.

AC – Eight nights at ABC Hotel.

Logistics & Other Stuff:

References:

I used two references: ISG members and Google search. Thank you ISG members!

Travel Insurance:

The SquareMouth web-site gave me over 50 quotes from over 50 different companies. I chose Trawick from National Mutual. It was for 12-days and cost $314.00.

Money:

All the money I quote is in Philippine pesos. During my stay, the exchange rate was around 60.00 to 1. I exchanged some US dollars in the airport (terrible rate of 59.20) and used ATMs when needed.

Flight:

I flew with EVA Airlines and the service was excellent. The flight was from LAX to Manila with a layover in Taipei each way.

Immigration and Customs:

Before I left, I used eTravel and complete the process for immigration. You can only use eTravel up to 72 hours of your flight.

"eTravel Declaration Form: All travelers must register on the eTravel Portal within 72 hours prior to their arrival. ".

I also completed the eTravel Declaration Form before I returned, but nobody asked to see the form!

Communication:

I have the T-Mobile Go5 GPlus55 plan; no worries whatsoever. For most of my trip, the service was through Globe Telecom. Sometimes the service changed to Smart.

Electrical voltage - 220.

Transportation:

While in Manila and AC, I used Grab and a few trikes. From the Manila airport to my hotel, the hotel sent me a driver and the cost was 1100. From Manila to Angeles City, I used Beeway and the cost was 4500. From Angeles City back to the airport, the cost was the same for Beeway.

The people:

I found the Filipinos to be extremely friendly, hospitable, and respectful. I leaned that in 1978 and it still holds true today. They always make you feel welcomed.

English:

During my stay, the majority of the people I talked to spoke English, whether it was broken or fluent. There were some exceptions, but not enough to be concerned about.

Trip reports:

I plan to write a separate trip reports for the two cities I visited. I had my trusty note pad and I am still trying to figure out my shorthand writing so I can post the correct information.

Overall thoughts on the Philippines:

I thought the cities were quite safe and I never felt threaten in any manner. Would I ever return to the Philippines? Last trip I said no, but I guess I changed my mind. Thus, I am not sure. Overall, I had a great time! Would I recommend it to other mongers? Absolutely!

Como siempre, ¡Solo mis dos pinche pesos, por supuesto!

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3073649]Overall thoughts on the Philippines:

I thought the cities were quite safe and I never felt threaten in any manner. Would I ever return to the Philippines? Last trip I said no, but I guess I changed my mind. Thus, I am not sure. Overall, I had a great time! Would I recommend it to other mongers? Absolutely!

Como siempre, Solo mis dos pinche pesos, por supuesto![/QUOTE]Good write up. Worth the reading.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3073649]Overall thoughts on the Philippines:

I thought the cities were quite safe and I never felt threaten in any manner. Would I ever return to the Philippines? Last trip I said no, but I guess I changed my mind. Thus, I am not sure. Overall, I had a great time! Would I recommend it to other mongers? Absolutely!

Como siempre, Solo mis dos pinche pesos, por supuesto![/QUOTE]Solid field report sir. Thanks for your 2 pesos worth.

Last year I think there was discussion of US Immigration seizing devices (started happening way before Covid), along with the other westernized countries.

[URL]https://www.uniladtech.com/news/tech-news/five-click-phone-trick-before-entering-us-customs-347292-20260707?utm_content=tech&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=facebook[/URL]

From the article, update on numbers of devices:

[I]Citing stats from the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the report revealed that border control searched 55,318 computers, cellphones and other devices in 2025, up 17.6% from the 47,047 devices searched in 2024 and up 32.4% from the 41,767 devices searched in 2023.[/I]

That's 150 per day. Fall in line sir.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3073723]Last year I think there was discussion of US Immigration seizing devices (started happening way before Covid), along with the other westernized countries.

[URL]https://www.uniladtech.com/news/tech-news/five-click-phone-trick-before-entering-us-customs-347292-20260707?utm_content=tech&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=facebook[/URL]

From the article, update on numbers of devices:

[I]Citing stats from the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the report revealed that border control searched 55,318 computers, cellphones and other devices in 2025, up 17.6% from the 47,047 devices searched in 2024 and up 32.4% from the 41,767 devices searched in 2023.[/I]

That's 150 per day. Fall in line sir.[/QUOTE]1984.

What can they find? Is personal porn illegal?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3073738]1984.

What can they find? Is personal porn illegal?[/QUOTE]Yes, if it comes specifically from Philippines (its a violation of Phils law if it involves any female nudity). Additionally any messages or pictures in your device that indicate you traveled for prostitution (a violation of federal law in the US) would incriminate you.

If you are not a US citizen and refuse them access to your device, you risk immediate deportation. Or worse, a week in Bakersfield.

If you are a citizen and they confiscate your device, they will ask for your device PIN or PW (they will also ask for your login and PW for each social media account, dating app, communication app like Telegram or WA, and email account). You either turn it over or you don't. If you don't, they can detain you for up to 7 hours and they will make a copy of your device's hard drive. Usually they give the device back at that point (they will look at the contents later) and send you on your way. If they keep the device they will give you instructions on how to get it back when they are finished with it. Its possible (and perfectly legal for them) to threaten not to grant you entry into the US if you don't comply; however they can't stop you from entering after 7 hours.

I posted links to an immigration attorney's vids on this topic last year. I also posted links or pics from Canadian immigration showing they too are confiscating large numbers of devices (just when you thought it was safe to f*ck fat girls and play hockey again).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3073764]Yes, if it comes specifically from Philippines (its a violation of Phils law if it involves any female nudity). Additionally any messages or pictures in your device that indicate you traveled for prostitution (a violation of federal law in the US) would incriminate you.

If you are not a US citizen and refuse them access to your device, you risk immediate deportation. Or worse, a week in Bakersfield.

If you are a citizen and they confiscate your device, they will ask for your device PIN or PW (they will also ask for your login and PW for each social media account, dating app, communication app like Telegram or WA, and email account). You either turn it over or you don't. If you don't, they can detain you for up to 7 hours and they will make a copy of your device's hard drive. Usually they give the device back at that point (they will look at the contents later) and send you on your way. If they keep the device they will give you instructions on how to get it back when they are finished with it. Its possible (and perfectly legal for them) to threaten not to grant you entry into the US if you don't comply; however they can't stop you from entering after 7 hours.

I posted links to an immigration attorney's vids on this topic last year. I also posted links or pics from Canadian immigration showing they too are confiscating large numbers of devices (just when you thought it was safe to f*ck fat girls and play hockey again).[/QUOTE]I think we talked about this a while ago. Where I'm from (Las Vegas) there are plenty of legal brothels, so I don't see how it will be illegal to travel somewhere for paid sex, if we have it right there in most of the counties in Nevada, licensed, with working girls ready to fuck everything that moves and has a few hundred bucks in the pocket.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3073795]I think we talked about this a while ago. Where I'm from (Las Vegas) there are plenty of legal brothels, so I don't see how it will be illegal to travel somewhere for paid sex, if we have it right there in most of the counties in Nevada, licensed, with working girls ready to fuck everything that moves and has a few hundred bucks in the pocket.[/QUOTE]Look up:

Federal criminal charges under 18 USC 2423 (illegal sex and travel).

[URL]https://www.gjllp.com/blog/federal-criminal-charges-under-18-usc-2423-illegal-sex-and-travel/[/URL]

From the articlej (written by a lawyer):

[I]Next, 18 U.S.C. 2423 [b]makes it a federal felony punishable by up to 30 years to travel across state lines, into the United States, or even to a foreign country (if that person is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident) for the purpose of engaging in illegal sexual conduct. So, this means that it is illegal to travel across state lines to hire a prostitute[/b] or have sexual contact with an underage person. It also means that it is illegal for a citizen or permanent resident to travel to a foreign country to hire a prostitute or have sex with a minor. Interestingly, a person can be guilty of this crime without actually engaging in the sexual conduct, so long as the prosecutor can prove the illegal purpose of the travel.[/I]

And:

[I]18 U.S.C. 2423 prohibits illegal sexual intercourse after having traveled across state lines or into the U.S., or even to a foreign country (if that person is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident). [b]Occasionally, U.S. citizens get arrested returning to the United States because Customs officers discover incriminating photographs or videos during border inspections of their laptops, phones, or cameras. Most people are surprised to learn that their electronic devices can be searched at U.S. Customs without probable cause or a warrant[/b]. Registered sex offenders returning from known sex tourism countries should be prepared to have their devices inspected at the border.[/I]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3073824]Look up:

Federal criminal charges under 18 USC 2423 (illegal sex and travel).

[URL]https://www.gjllp.com/blog/federal-criminal-charges-under-18-usc-2423-illegal-sex-and-travel/[/URL]

From the articlej (written by a lawyer):

[I]Next, 18 U.S.C. 2423 [b]makes it a federal felony punishable by up to 30 years to travel across state lines, into the United States, or even to a foreign country (if that person is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident) for the purpose of engaging in illegal sexual conduct. So, this means that it is illegal to travel across state lines to hire a prostitute[/b] or have sexual contact with an underage person. It also means that it is illegal for a citizen or permanent resident to travel to a foreign country to hire a prostitute or have sex with a minor. Interestingly, a person can be guilty of this crime without actually engaging in the sexual conduct, so long as the prosecutor can prove the illegal purpose of the travel.[/I]

And:

[I]18 U.S.C. 2423 prohibits illegal sexual intercourse after having traveled across state lines or into the U.S., or even to a foreign country (if that person is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident). [b]Occasionally, U.S. citizens get arrested returning to the United States because Customs officers discover incriminating photographs or videos during border inspections of their laptops, phones, or cameras. Most people are surprised to learn that their electronic devices can be searched at U.S. Customs without probable cause or a warrant[/b]. Registered sex offenders returning from known sex tourism countries should be prepared to have their devices inspected at the border.[/I][/QUOTE]The critical interpretation required with USC2423 is the word "illegal". If you are travelling to a destination where prostitution is not illegal, then you cannot be prosecuted under 2423. So, for instance, an American travelling between states for prostitution is going to contravene 2423 and can be prosecuted, but that same person travelling to Australia for prostitution cannot.

The article is fine as far as it goes, but it's too short and simplistic to delve into nuance.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3073832]The critical interpretation required with USC2423 is the word "illegal". If you are travelling to a destination where prostitution is not illegal, then you cannot be prosecuted under 2423. So, for instance, an American travelling between states for prostitution is going to contravene 2423 and can be prosecuted, but that same person travelling to Australia for prostitution cannot.

The article is fine as far as it goes, but it's too short and simplistic to delve into nuance.[/QUOTE]What I was saying is that millions travel across state lines to go to Las Vegas and lots of them go to the brothels, and that's no secret, so it has to be legal, and from Westy's post I take the excerpt: "for the purpose of engaging in illegal sexual conduct", so probably if you go to Vegas, Amsterdam or Munich is ok if you pay for it. For the PH travel we'll just tell them that it was for free, and delete all the whatsapp messages containing "how much?"

And of course don't take photos handing the money to hookers, only photos of the vaxxing process.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3073877]What I was saying is that millions travel across state lines to go to Las Vegas and lots of them go to the brothels, and that's no secret, so it has to be legal, and from Westy's post I take the excerpt: "for the purpose of engaging in illegal sexual conduct", so probably if you go to Vegas, Amsterdam or Munich is ok if you pay for it. For the PH travel we'll just tell them that it was for free, and delete all the whatsapp messages containing "how much?"

And of course don't take photos handing the money to hookers, only photos of the vaxxing process.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a plan.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3073832]The critical interpretation required with USC2423 is the word "illegal". If you are travelling to a destination where prostitution is not illegal, then you cannot be prosecuted under 2423. So, for instance, an American travelling between states for prostitution is going to contravene 2423 and can be prosecuted, but that same person travelling to Australia for prostitution cannot.

The article is fine as far as it goes, but it's too short and simplistic to delve into nuance.[/QUOTE]I'm not American so I'm surprised / amused at the concern.

Has anyone actually been stopped at the border and asked sticky questions or had phones searched?

I must trigger every alert possible. I'm typically a sole male traveller, returning from multiple trips to know flesh pits. Yet I've never been asked a single question.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3074031]I'm not American so I'm surprised / amused at the concern.

Has anyone actually been stopped at the border and asked sticky questions or had phones searched?

I must trigger every alert possible. I'm typically a sole male traveller, returning from multiple trips to know flesh pits. Yet I've never been asked a single question.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Yep.

They also get really butthurt if your phone is freshly wiped, so don't do that. Just have a burner that you toss locally or don't use your phone at all.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3074031]I'm not American so I'm surprised / amused at the concern.

Has anyone actually been stopped at the border and asked sticky questions or had phones searched?[/QUOTE]Yes, several times. They make a copy of your hard drive (s) while questioning you. They claim its a random search / interrogation (and that might be correct).

Hi Guys,

Our lingerie business recently got approached to trade back-links on our websites. This one we accepted.

It's an international escort website: [URL]https://escortfox.com/[/URL].

From a business POV, they were great to deal with.

I've checked out their Phils escort options, and although over-priced, it's an option for those who can't find anything on the ground.

(I don't know how that happens, with so many opportunities already available, but guys are often asking here about escort options).

Give us some feedback if you try them out _ Phil.

Thanks Phil for sharing. Options in Manila / Makati are quite limited, but there are a decent handful in Cebu. If any of my lineup flakes, I'll reach out to them as a backup. They do seem to charge a bit more though.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3074488]Hi Guys,

Our lingerie business recently got approached to trade back-links on our websites. This one we accepted.

It's an international escort website: [URL]https://escortfox.com/[/URL].

From a business POV, they were great to deal with.

I've checked out their Phils escort options, and although over-priced, it's an option for those who can't find anything on the ground.

(I don't know how that happens, with so many opportunities already available, but guys are often asking here about escort options).

Give us some feedback if you try them out _ Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3074509]Don't make the permanent move until you do a trial one for 3-4 months. I'm still on trial and not convinced yet, for 4 years now, the girls are the only incentive for me, absolutely nothing else. All the other stuff can be found for half the price and better quality in the surrounding countries in SEA. (food, housing, medical care, transportation, etc).[/QUOTE]+1 on an extended visit before moving permanently. It's very true when guys say that visiting and living permanently are two very different things.

I really enjoy visiting PH for multi month stays but I'd never live there. The generally crap food and crumbling services does my head in after a while. Sure, there are ways and places where these aren't a problem but they need to be searched out. They aren't universal. Unfortunately, I have lived in Asian cities where you can duck into any restaurant or colera cart and get a beautiful meal. The same for services: sure there may have been outages but the system isn't on the verge of total collapse like PI.

Everyone is different but I like the idea of alternating between countries 3 to 6 months at a time, taking advantage of the best weather and visa options. Maybe a rotation through PH, TH, VN and ID and thow in SG or MY when ever I want some western conveniences.

The girls?? We keep complaining about them but they keep drawing us back for very good reason. Pinas' big advantages are generally passable English and total acceptance of age gaps. These also apply in less transactional relationships. Again, I prefer a hybrid system of not settling down with one but roaming far and wide. Girls may object after too long but it's definitely achievable.

The big risk long term is health care. Most guys seem to last until their very late 70's or early 80's then either pass or move back home for advanced medical care. Given the quality of life of waiting to die in a western Aged Care home, I often thing a shorter but much more enjoyable life in the east is preferable to a much longer life of merely existing in the west. I'm happy to swap 85 years of bingo and trivia nights for 75 years of chasing 19 yos. 😃.

This really is an area where everyone's needs and desires are different but the moral is to look before you leap.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3074526]<SNIP>

The big risk long-term is health care. Most guys seem to last until their very late 70's or early 80's then either pass or move back home for advanced medical care. I often think a shorter but much more enjoyable life in the East is preferable to a much longer life of merely existing in the West.[/QUOTE]There is another option. Choose to live near a top-tier medical facility.

I bought a condo in Ortigas in Manila near The Medical City 20 years ago, and live a very relaxed life with an international health insurance scheme. There are 7 large malls within easy walking distance, and an MRT station nearby should I decide to visit Makati (south) or Trinoma (north).

I have no need to venture outside of the area except to go to the airport for work assignments in other SE Asian or Central Asian destinations or to holiday in my home country.

Best of both worlds I guess.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;3074606]There is another option. Choose to live near a top-tier medical facility.

I bought a condo in Ortigas in Manila near The Medical City 20 years ago, and live a very relaxed life with an international health insurance scheme. There are 7 large malls within easy walking distance, and an MRT station nearby should I decide to visit Makati (south) or Trinoma (north).

I have no need to venture outside of the area except to go to the airport for work assignments in other SE Asian or Central Asian destinations or to holiday in my home country.

Best of both worlds I guess.[/QUOTE]I'm not a doctor, used to be some sort of a medic in the service a lifetime ago, so I know the basics, but the few times I went to some clinics for myself or somebody else, it scared the shit out of me, the level of incompetence, and lack of knowledge is astonishing. I'm never setting foot in a medical establishment in the PH again, unless is for some prescription, that I'll suggest to the doctor myself, or if they carry me unconscious in. I would go to TH if is something minor, EU or USA for serious stuff.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3074658]I'm not a doctor, used to be some sort of a medic in the service a lifetime ago, so I know the basics, but the few times I went to some clinics for myself or somebody else, it scared the shit out of me, the level of incompetence, and lack of knowledge is astonishing. I'm never setting foot in a medical establishment in the PH again, unless is for some prescription, that I'll suggest to the doctor myself, or if they carry me unconscious in. I would go to TH if is something minor, EU or USA for serious stuff.[/QUOTE]I have gone to many clinics in the Ph and not just for the clap. Most tests, such as those in executive check ups, are routine and the computers do all the work. The hospitals in the clinic have to content with the poverty rampant there so you do not get the BS trappings of elsewhere. Outlooks like yours feed into the upselling problem.

Let's take knees as an example. A former team mate of mine, very good footballer, had knees not worth a shit, typical soccer injury. For years, he wouldn't get them done (finally had to have them replaced), going on about how bad / risky the local servce and Bumrumgrad were. According to him, the best knee surgeons were in Florida as lots of money, old and medics specializing in the old. At the pinnacle was some German geezer but you would have to be a heavily insured top footballer to see him. Way out of anyone's financial league here. In hte ned, he got them done locally and happy as a pig in shit.

I have lots of body parts going on the blink and, for an overall scan, I am more than happy with the Ph. When the Grim Reapper really comes a knocking, I will reconsider but, by then, it won't matter much.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3074804]I have gone to many clinics in the Ph and not just for the clap. Most tests, such as those in executive check ups, are routine and the computers do all the work. The hospitals in the clinic have to content with the poverty rampant there so you do not get the BS trappings of elsewhere. Outlooks like yours feed into the upselling problem.

Let's take knees as an example. A former team mate of mine, very good footballer, had knees not worth a shit, typical soccer injury. For years, he wouldn't get them done (finally had to have them replaced), going on about how bad / risky the local servce and Bumrumgrad were. According to him, the best knee surgeons were in Florida as lots of money, old and medics specializing in the old. At the pinnacle was some German geezer but you would have to be a heavily insured top footballer to see him. Way out of anyone's financial league here. In hte ned, he got them done locally and happy as a pig in shit.

I have lots of body parts going on the blink and, for an overall scan, I am more than happy with the Ph. When the Grim Reapper really comes a knocking, I will reconsider but, by then, it won't matter much.[/QUOTE]Tests done by a machine made in the west are ok, but for the rest of it I have my doubts. 2 years ago I had an MRI done in Davao in an old beat up Fujitsu machine, was ok, I just didn't trust the interpretation, and I sent the disk to US, was the same answer.

I got blood drawn for STD testing, and while I don't doubt the results, they where spitted out by the machine, the whole process of pocking me for the blood scared me: the guy had the gloves on already from the previous pacient, then put the needle in the syringe, left it on the table where he had chicken adobo with rice at lunch, then opened some door knobs, wrote stuff with a filthy pen, typed on the sticky keyboard, probably scratched his butt when not in sight, then proceeded on to pocking me in the vein few times. Now that's the stuff that I know about, and it got me worried. I witnessed similar stuff when over the years I took some girls in for different reasons, all involving needle handling.

FB reel on empty condos in NCR.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1054396516986826[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jarango;3074804]I have lots of body parts going on the blink and, for an overall scan, I am more than happy with the Ph.[/QUOTE]J. the best dentist I've ever had is in Subic.

Sure, week one of a visit might be painful, but that pain is nothing like the bill you'd cop back at home.

Having said that, I'm in the process of puting my father into aged care in Australia, which has turned into a complete sh*t-fight.

I'd hate to think how that would go in the Phils.

We'll all end up there one day.

Or, the lights may go out suddenly with a 27 year old hooker in the room.

I'd take the latter.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3074998]Having said that, I'm in the process of puting my father into aged care in Australia, which has turned into a complete sh*t-fight.

I'd hate to think how that would go in the Phils.

We'll all end up there one day.

Or, the lights may go out suddenly with a 27 year old hooker in the room..[/QUOTE]You are not the onlyy one recently posting about dying in the saddle with your boots on and your condoms off. One day I am zig zagging down the line, crossing, scoring headers and the next I am getting advice from you on how to push back Dementia day. Pal of mine, his brother got early dementia and they all chipped in for the bill. I asked him had they Pinay nurses and he said you'd be lucky to get them. Scary thought but old folks' homes are big business, fine if you are loaded and have a good place, not so good if the nurse has to make 60 beds an hour and must slap you about to get a move on.

I noted Chocha's post about some Yankee marine biologist getting whacked in his home Perils of playing away from home. God knows who or what was bonking the LBFM on the quiet.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3074998]

Or, the lights may go out suddenly with a 27 year old hooker in the room.

I'd take the latter.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Many Old Aged Homes have STD rates that would make a Patpong bordello blush.

[URL]https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12180883/[/URL]

Maybe dad isn't going to do so bad after all.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3075029]You are not the onlyy one recently posting about dying in the saddle with your boots on and your condoms off. One day I am zig zagging down the line, crossing, scoring headers and the next I am getting advice from you on how to push back Dementia day. Pal of mine, his brother got early dementia and they all chipped in for the bill. I asked him had they Pinay nurses and he said you'd be lucky to get them. Scary thought but old folks' homes are big business, fine if you are loaded and have a good place, not so good if the nurse has to make 60 beds an hour and must slap you about to get a move on.

I noted Chocha's post about some Yankee marine biologist getting whacked in his home Perils of playing away from home. God knows who or what was bonking the LBFM on the quiet.[/QUOTE]Dementia isn't pretty. A friend of the family is totally gone: doesn't recognise anyone and has no idea what she's doing anytime of the day. Sadly, her younger sister started showing early signs of heading the same way but died peacefully in her sleep. Even her husband agreed that it was the best outcome possible having seen what was coming in a few years.

The elderly are huge business. If grandpa's totally out of it, there as a time when he received a magic shot of morphine and nodded off peacefully. Now everyone is watching everyone else and very happy to hand them in. Add in that the seriously infirm have the lowest assistance, meals and activity costs so it makes good business sense to continue to have them just lying there, bringing in fees every day.

The staff are normally wonderful but the system sucks big time.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3075058]Dementia isn't pretty. A friend of the family is totally gone: doesn't recognise anyone and has no idea what she's doing anytime of the day. Sadly, her younger sister started showing early signs of heading the same way but died peacefully in her sleep. Even her husband agreed that it was the best outcome possible having seen what was coming in a few years.

The elderly are huge business. If grandpa's totally out of it, there as a time when he received a magic shot of morphine and nodded off peacefully. Now everyone is watching everyone else and very happy to hand them in. Add in that the seriously infirm have the lowest assistance, meals and activity costs so it makes good business sense to continue to have them just lying there, bringing in fees every day..[/QUOTE]Not to go all philosophical on a hooker board, but I genuinely never understand how people let themselves get to that point. Look at Bruce Willis, Lewy body dementia. He knew for years it was coming. I'm pretty sure if I knew for a fact that was my fate, I'd set a date to end it all on my terms.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3075058]Dementia isn't pretty. A friend of the family is totally gone: doesn't recognise anyone and has no idea what she's doing anytime of the day. Sadly, her younger sister started showing early signs of heading the same way but died peacefully in her sleep. Even her husband agreed that it was the best outcome possible having seen what was coming in a few years.

The elderly are huge business. If grandpa's totally out of it, there as a time when he received a magic shot of morphine and nodded off peacefully. Now everyone is watching everyone else and very happy to hand them in. Add in that the seriously infirm have the lowest assistance, meals and activity costs so it makes good business sense to continue to have them just lying there, bringing in fees every day..[/QUOTE]There are also some positives to having dementia. Every morning in your mind, you wake up to a 'new' LBFM in your bed. Every time you fuck the same pussy it feels like a 'strange' pussy. You never get tired of the same pussy. You cannot recall past grievances, and cannot remember why you were angry 5 minutes ago. You never experience anxiety or stress about things far into the future. You only live in the present. You forget about the hot spinner you were trying to fuck yesterday. You finally get a smoking hot chick in your bed and then you forget what you are supposed to do with your dick. LOL!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3074941]FB reel on empty condos in NCR.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1054396516986826[/URL][/QUOTE]Bit more on this. See the pic.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=122191573316872450&set=a.122153362292872450[/URL]From the article:

[I]With Metro Manila now sitting on a record [b]82,900[/b] unsold residential units, the Pag-IBIG Fund says affordable financing alone is no longer enough if homes remain out of reach for ordinary Filipinos.[/I]

The article says the glut has not reduced selling price, pricing filipinos out of the market. The government's plan? Build ANOTHER 7,000 units (27 sq meter), selling them to pinoys for p1.8 million, well below today's asking price of:

[I]Comparable units in many Metro Manila developments often sell for approximately [b]₱3.5 million to ₱4 million[/b].[/I]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3075274]From the article:

[I]With Metro Manila now sitting on a record [b]82,900[/b] unsold residential units, the Pag-IBIG Fund says affordable financing alone is no longer enough if homes remain out of reach for ordinary Filipinos.[/I]
[/QUOTE]There are many vids on YT about this so-called glut, and every one of them mentions that the data is skewed when Metro Manila is considered as a whole.

Not all areas are the same. The Bayside area (between Makati and the MOA area), has the highest vacancy rate due to the closure of the POGOs.

My area of Ortigas Center is holding very steady, and although I have no plans to sell, resale prices in my large condo are about 50% above what I paid in 2007.

Most of the newly built condos across the metro are very small, with low ceilings, and feel very claustrophobic to me.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3075274]Bit more on this. See the pic.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=122191573316872450&set=a.122153362292872450[/URL]From the article:

[I]With Metro Manila now sitting on a record [b]82,900[/b] unsold residential units, the Pag-IBIG Fund says affordable financing alone is no longer enough if homes remain out of reach for ordinary Filipinos.[/I]

The article says the glut has not reduced selling price, pricing filipinos out of the market. The government's plan? Build ANOTHER 7,000 units (27 sq meter), selling them to pinoys for p1.8 million, well below today's asking price of:

[I]Comparable units in many Metro Manila developments often sell for approximately [b]₱3.5 million to ₱4 million[/b].[/I][/QUOTE]Filipinos are firm believers in the 'Greater Fool' theory. They always believe that there is a bigger fool that will pay more than they did for overvalued property. It is not limited to real estate. They will try to sell used semi-obsolete goods like consumer electronics at higher prices than the latest new and improved models of the same item.

In the Philippines, up is down and down is up. Assume that you know how things work at your own risk. Take for example, the fact that some Filipino men will happily let a foreigner fuck the brakes off their Filipina wife or girlfriend, as long as she brings home the foreigner's money for cigarettes, beer, and lechon.

On the other hand, if a Filipino man starts fucking a foreigner's Filipina wife or girlfriend, the Filipino is not satisfied to remain in the background sneaking in occasional fucks and receiving monetary gifts secretly siphoned off the expat's largesse. No. Instead, he will assemble his minions and murder that foreigner. Often with the encouragement and cooperation of the foreigner's Filipina wife or girlfriend who benefited most from the relationship with the victim.

Just an observation guys regarding travelling all the way to The Phils versus paying for it at home.

Over the last few days I've been back in Sydney, Australia attending to some family matters and thought I'd try out the local brothel.

Back in the day, these establishments were staffed by Aussie girls who really knew how to offer a service. My first paid experience was when I was 19 after the 'first real love' cheated on me and I found a nice Aussie girl who was a great listener and offered a sexual experience that I could have only hoped for at that age.

It was the first and only time I got a hair job (girl strokes you and tickles your head with her long hair until you 'arrive').

Now, most of the knock shops in Sydney are all basically run by the Chinese.

It was AUD $200 an hour (or approx USD $140) and it was a surprise that a BBBJ was in the deal. Nice Chinese chick, great body and condom for full service.

Only problem she was in Australia and couldn't speak a word of English. So all communication was via a phone translator app.

Despite travelling to The Phils regularly and spending money on flights, hotels, and all the rest, it sure beats getting it in your home county after adding up the costs in my opinion.

You know the Pinas want to get into your wallet as much as you want to get into their panties.

But once you know how to play them, it works both ways.

I'll keep on paying the travel related costs, as opposed to the alternative in the home country. Plus, it's a holiday of sorts with endless sex on tap.

What more could one want?

I've had my fair share of Chinese pussy over the years, but the Pinas are way in front when it comes to service and negotiating LT etc.

Just my experience _Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3075840]Just an observation guys regarding travelling all the way to The Phils versus paying for it at home.

[/QUOTE]I'll admit I'm a Cheap Charlie and a total nerd so a few years ago, when I was looking for an alternative to returning over and over again to the same places in the Ph*, I actually did an objective assessment of all the options. I included the relative values of flying far and staying long vs flying locally for a short break. I even had a spread sheet of daily accommodation, travels and pussy costs.

Hey, I admitted I am a little different. 🤦.

The end result? No surprise that Ph worked out both the cheapest fuck per total dollar spent and also general smiles per mile.

It helps that I don't have to fly half way around the world and enjoy cheap provincial pussy but the numbers don't lie. It helps a lot that I know the lay of the land so don't have newbie tax and heart ache when I arrive at every city.

Enjoy. G.

* The remedy to getting bored was simple: I'm still going to the PH but including different areas. Week after week in AC would do my head in, the same for Subic. I've even given up on my old favourite, Sabang. All held great memories but it was time to move on. Now I have a great time bouncing between the big city neon lights in Makati and the small town provinces. Talk about compare and contrast. Both are very different places with totally different girls and wildly different price structures.

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3075840]Just an observation guys regarding travelling all the way to The Phils versus paying for it at home.

Over the last few days I've been back in Sydney, Australia attending to some family matters and thought I'd try out the local brothel.

Back in the day, these establishments were staffed by Aussie girls who really knew how to offer a service. My first paid experience was when I was 19 after the 'first real love' cheated on me and I found a nice Aussie girl who was a great listener and offered a sexual experience that I could have only hoped for at that age.

It was the first and only time I got a hair job (girl strokes you and tickles your head with her long hair until you 'arrive')..[/QUOTE]I am crying in my beer! Why, you say? I missed out on the glory days of Kings Cross and The Golden Mile. Now, I read Philjoy's report that all the Oz brothels are stocked with Chinese cunnies. What is a tourist to do in the Land of Plenty? We travel down under for creamy Aussie tits with pink nips and puss with even pinker clits. No more Aussie lasses tickling me balls with their golden locks in the local hoarhouses. What an outrage!

I wonder what Trump would do if he heard that 'Chyna' cornered the Aussie pussy market? Most likely, he would throw a fit and after kicking all his shit off the Resolute Desk, slap Oz with a 50% trade tariff. The Hon. Anthony Albanese MP would have to make a deal to get Aussie lasses back into the brothels instead of flooding the local market with imports from 'Chyna'.

Every Aussie monger should be writing his parliamentary representative demanding that they support their local knock shops as part of their social policies and initiatives. Running away to Southeast Asia is not a sustainable solution. With rising airfares and hotel rates, eventually the return on a root in the Philippines will become negative for the Aussie working man. There are signs that Aussie mongers are already feeling the pressure.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3075840]Just an observation guys regarding travelling all the way to The Phils versus paying for it at home.[/QUOTE]I don't shit where I eat, so all my mongering ventures are outside my home town (USA / Canada).

I've been going to the Philippines for the last 2 years now and it's turned into an annual pilgrimage (LOL). I'm hoping to make it multiple times a year soon, either by using my vacation time better or ideally getting work to send me there.

No doubt about the cost side for me either. Pussy is noticeably cheaper there and I don't even include the flight in my math. I need to go somewhere to relax and unwind anyway, so why not pick a top-tier sex mongering destination? The numbers just make sense.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3075840]
Now, most of the knock shops in Sydney are all basically run by the Chinese.
It was AUD $200 an hour (or approx USD $140) and it was a surprise that a BBBJ was in the deal. Nice Chinese chick, great body and condom for full service.
[/QUOTE]What are the ages and looks of these Chinese women in Sydney?

Here in the Netherlands, where I live, we also have quite a lot of Chinese P4 P women. Most of them are in their late thirties or forties; some of them even older. And most of them are only average looking, with average bodies (with often some overweight and baby damage). Only a few of them are in their late twenties or early thirties, and better looking, with better bodies.
But they are all sweet and friendly, and their service is usually very good. The common price is EUR 150 (USD 170) for an hour, or EUR 100 (USD 115) for 30 minutes, with BBBJ included. Add EUR 50 for BBFS, which most of them provide.

Of course you can get a much younger and better looking Eastern European girl for about the same price (but usually EUR 50 more) here in Holland, but their 'service' and attitude are usually horrible.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3075922]What are the ages and looks of these Chinese women in Sydney?

Here in the Netherlands, where I live, we also have quite a lot of Chinese P4 P women. Most of them are in their late thirties or forties; some of them even older. And most of them are only average looking, with average bodies (with often some overweight and baby damage). Only a few of them are in their late twenties or early thirties, and better looking, with better bodies.
But they are all sweet and friendly, and their service is usually very good. The common price is EUR 150 (USD 170) for an hour, or EUR 100 (USD 115) for 30 minutes, with BBBJ included. Add EUR 50 for BBFS, which most of them provide.

Of course you can get a much younger and better looking Eastern European girl for about the same price (but usually EUR 50 more) here in Holland, but their 'service' and attitude are usually horrible.[/QUOTE]USA: Similar. AMP's (Asian Massage Parlors) litter the west coast cities. A city of 100 k people probably has 4-8 of them. 'Asian' really means Chinese ladies. Rarely see a pina, Thai, Cambodian, or Indo girl inside. They are almost never under 30 in age; usually late 30's, 40's, 50's. Little english is spoken. They are always good at actual massage, and not all offer extras. When they do, prices (in addition to the massage) start on the lower end typically at: HJ $50-$75 USD, $150-$300 FS, all service is covered (difficult to get them to BBFS at any price, even the older hags). One pop and out (no set time limit, but you have about 30 minutes). Again those are lower-end prices; have been in some places where the girl (old hag) insisted on several times those numbers. You often pay the basic massage price (say, $75) up front.

OAU, how does that compare with Vegas?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3075922]What are the ages and looks of these Chinese women in Sydney. Of course you can get a much younger and better looking Eastern European girl for about the same price (but usually EUR 50 more) here in Holland, but their 'service' and attitude are usually horrible.[/QUOTE]Mog, probably around thirty.

In this case I'd probably go for the younger Euros after doing Russia quite a few years ago.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3075861]No doubt about the cost side for me either. Pussy is noticeably cheaper there and I don't even include the flight in my math. I need to go somewhere to relax and unwind anyway, so why not pick a top-tier sex mongering destination? The numbers just make sense.[/QUOTE]Agree Yen,

Although it fight be a f#ck fest, it's also a holiday.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3075859]I am crying in my beer! Why, you say? I missed out on the glory days of Kings Cross and The Golden Mile. Now, I read Philjoy's report that all the Oz brothels are stocked with Chinese cunnies. What is a tourist to do in the Land of Plenty? We travel down under for creamy Aussie tits with pink nips and puss with even pinker clits. No more Aussie lasses tickling me balls with their golden locks in the local hoarhouses. What an outrage!
[/QUOTE]I know Chocha, it's quite sad.

There were some great workers back in the day, and I got in from an early age with really experienced, down to earth Aussie workers. All the local knock-shops were staffed by Aussies.

The Cross was a last resort, or somewhere you'd visit if you wanted to kick-on after a night out or seeing bands. I'm glad I got to see it back then.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3075851] No surprise that Ph worked out both the cheapest fuck per total dollar spent and also general smiles per mile. I've even given up on my old favourite, Sabang. All held great memories but it was time to move on. Now I have a great time bouncing between the big city neon lights in Makati and the small town provinces. Talk about compare and contrast. Both are very different places with totally different girls and wildly different price structures. G.[/QUOTE]Your numbers stack up G.

And yes, I miss Sabang dearly as it was my first destination after many years away from the Phils.

I had multiple visits and girls, but being a small place it got complicated. My previous posts would explain why.

And everyone got to know me.

I'd still encourage newcomers to the Phils to try Sabang as an alternitive.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3075925]USA: Similar. AMP's (Asian Massage Parlors) litter the west coast cities. A city of 100 k people probably has 4-8 of them. 'Asian' really means Chinese ladies. Rarely see a pina, Thai, Cambodian, or Indo girl inside. They are almost never under 30 in age; usually late 30's, 40's, 50's. Little english is spoken. They are always good at actual massage, and not all offer extras. When they do, prices (in addition to the massage) start on the lower end typically at: HJ $50-$75 USD, $150-$300 FS, all service is covered (difficult to get them to BBFS at any price, even the older hags). One pop and out (no set time limit, but you have about 30 minutes). Again those are lower-end prices; have been in some places where the girl (old hag) insisted on several times those numbers. You often pay the basic massage price (say, $75) up front.

OAU, how does that compare with Vegas?[/QUOTE]Same price, same tactics, same ethnicity: chinese, but lately you will rarely get any massages, since sex is better paid and less work, few places are well known for offering barebone for extra pay, for massages you go to thai places, not so numerous, and far from tourists. If you go to the same thai girl long enough you may start getting HJs and BJs as a happy ending, no fucking unless you convince them to come to your place.

Also it used to be a lot of criptic adds online in the health and beauty sections for $2-300 naked massages done at the girl's place, mostly white yoga type, some will fuck you, most will only do HJ or BJ. They give you an address, usually next to their place where they can observe you thru the window, and tell you to call when there, for further instructions, but they tell the same to other 10 guys, and the first one that arrives there get's the the treatment, the rest just made the trip for nothing, because she's not answering the phone anymore, unless you're a regular and she's waiting for you. Then you have the street walkers, mostly black and fat, but inbetween you'll see some black stunning looking babes with extra long legs and nice melons, few white druggies in the mix also: $150-250 at their place somewhere close by, usually budget suites. Those are all pimped girls, and the hawks are watching, it may be dangerous. Up one level you have the casino hookers $300 and up, mostly white blondes and some blacks, latinas and very few asians, that's also dangerous, may get robbed, drugged, or it may be a police sting, to fulfill the quota. And finally above all are the luxury hookers , $5 K-10 K or more, you may do whatever you want to them, even weird stuff, but in addition to the $10 K you may end up paying for some gucci stuff also.

All this was before covid, our days it may be different.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3075840]Just an observation guys regarding travelling all the way to The Phils versus paying for it at home.

Over the last few days I've been back in Sydney, Australia attending to some family matters and thought I'd try out the local brothel.

Back in the day, these establishments were staffed by Aussie girls who really knew how to offer a service. My first paid experience was when I was 19 after the 'first real love' cheated on me and I found a nice Aussie girl who was a great listener and offered a sexual experience that I could have only hoped for at that age.

It was the first and only time I got a hair job (girl strokes you and tickles your head with her long hair until you 'arrive').

Now, most of the knock shops in Sydney are all basically run by the Chinese.

It was AUD $200 an hour (or approx USD $140) and it was a surprise that a BBBJ was in the deal. Nice Chinese chick, great body and condom for full service.

Only problem she was in Australia and couldn't speak a word of English. So all communication was via a phone translator app.

Despite travelling to The Phils regularly and spending money on flights, hotels, and all the rest, it sure beats getting it in your home county after adding up the costs in my opinion.

You know the Pinas want to get into your wallet as much as you want to get into their panties.

But once you know how to play them, it works both ways.

I'll keep on paying the travel related costs, as opposed to the alternative in the home country. Plus, it's a holiday of sorts with endless sex on tap.

What more could one want?

I've had my fair share of Chinese pussy over the years, but the Pinas are way in front when it comes to service and negotiating LT etc.

Just my experience _Phil.[/QUOTE]Just returned from a 2 weeks trip to Italy. After almost a yearlong SEA without any real western "mind rinse" I just felt the urge for a "go west young man" moment, so I started looking at flights anywhere for a break from this world into the other universe, at least for a week or so.

US was expensive, EU the same, but the bombing in the gulf started again, and Emirates dropped the price because I guess everybody is avoiding flying to a place that's 100 miles close to the Hormuz Straight. I got round trip Clark to Rome with layover in Dubai including paid hotel and meals for 2 nights for $470, I bought it without hesitation. I visited Rome, Napoli, Positano, Pompei, I forgot how fucking expensive it is.

The new generation of european girls now in their 20's started to look like humans again, extremely fuckable, very beautiful, but untouchable by old farts in vacation, compared to the previous generation now in their 30-40's that didn't looked human at all, and acted like the masters of the universe.

One night while on a terrace at a restaurant in Trastevere because the tables where so close, I witnessed a sugar daddy / daughter negotiation in english, he an old italian fart by the accent and looks, she a perfect blonde, with a killer body and face, most likely a foreign student, because the common language was english, and she spoke with a thick accent, probably slavic. Couldn't hear all of it because of the noise, but he was offering to pay the rent, utilities, and something else in exchange for daily fucks, and she was trying to get less fucks (politely, with schedule excuses) or more perks for the same nr of fucks, the conclusion is that if you have the dough, you can do it close to home too, wherever that is.

About the regular mongering situation, just as expected, very slim and pale in comparation with PH: I had only one good looking escort from one of the online agencies in Rome, 350 euros for one hour, sold as italian, but actually hungarian, good fuck at first glance, but everything covered even the BJ that started with the classic condom application by mouth, no kissing, not even a five minutes extension when the time was up.

Upon post coitus interruptus analysis, the conclusion was: extremely fake everything, if she would just faked it just for a few more minutes until I had come she would had me completely fooled, and get a tip and a second booking, because I figured it out that kissing old farts is not her strongest skill, and covered sex is expected in EU, but it doesn't matter how good looking they are, still stupid. So escorts got removed from the options list.

In Positano got a massage to try my luck there, the Poseidon Hotel where I was staying had a massage salon at the 3rd floor, and because nothing else was within walking distance without going up or down 2000 stairs in the heat (hotel to center town by the port was "only" 600 stairs), I booked a 50 minutes session there, they didn't have a price list, only a menu. Paid $300, got some expensive oil smeared all over my body, and a lousy rub by a good looking italian girl in her 30's, tip was expected on top of that, politely presented by the receptionists upon checking out in the subtle imported american way of asking about what percentage I would like to add to the bill. It was not the right place to ask for extras, I was afraid of public embarrassment. Fuck it, I didn't know it will cost an arm and a leg, but I guess if the hotel was $600/ night, that price range is to be expected.

Next in Napoli I had a massage with a good fuck by a chinese 40 yo, a lousy 3 some with same one and her colleague, and a BJ from a 40 yo Korean. I posted details in the Napoli section, which is voided of any info otherwise.

The best fucks P4 P are in SEA.

In Napoli around the train station at night are a lot of women with luggage that look lost, maybe an easy fuck for a safe place to sleep, but not understanding the language, can't feel them to see what's the deal with them, junkies, homeless, mugging bait, or just lost.

Europeans are beautiful, but the conclusion is that the best mongering while in EU still done with asians. Mongerers around these parts need to have deep pockets, and be easily pleased.

SEA and particularly the Philippines, rules!

Side note: sex sales! In Pompei there was a huge line in the sun waiting to visit the Lupanare (brothel). Nothing to see there, just 3 faded frescoes depicting fucking and the ruins of 3 small rooms where the fucking was done. Young, old, women and men all waiting to see it, I did too.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3076865]Europeans are beautiful, but the conclusion is that the best mongering while in EU still done with asians. Mongerers around these parts need to have deep pockets, and be easily pleased. SEA and particularly the Philippines, rules![/QUOTE]Great report Ugly.

Yes, the Euro chicks are stunning, but costly with lots of limitations.

The best time I had was in Russia. Hot, cheap hookers everywhere and they'd just approach you at train stations, or the hotel.

I'd be a little bit cautious heading there now.

_Phil.

As a Cebu resident for a few years now you definitely build up your roster of ladies that you can call on when you're needing a bit of distraction, varying from free to 2,500 peso. However, I just thought I would post something here today because it's been an interesting week!

First, the friends and family plan:

I have a lady (A) who will come to see me for massage plus any and all extras desired. Nothing barred. Not a particularly good looking lady, quite a bit heavier than is my preference, but as sweet as they come, and as I said open to anything. A few months ago she suddenly offered, unprompted, to bring friends over. She has introduced me to 2 at this point. The first one (B) is quite shy so A waits out in the living room while we have sex and then she comes in and they both give me a massage. The second one (C) is far more open and we have had some three-way play with A, although not at this point a true threesome (just focused on me).

A little while ago I happen to bump into B's profile on one of the dating sites and so connected to her there. I let A know that I had connected with C direct because of this but hadn't yet met her because I wanted to know if A was fine with me doing so. She said it was absolutely fine and all that she cared about was that I was happy! Since then however she has stopped talking to C and she did send me a message at one point saying how C has a live in partner. Seems that that is not true, and frankly I really don't care anyway. A continues to come over to give me massage and continues to claim that she has no problem with C. Filipinas and jealousy…

So C was over today and while here asked me if I would like her to bring her sister with her sometime. Let me think about that - yes! Note that C is 4'11" and describes her sister (2 years younger) as 'tiny'. They are part of a brood of 7 (5 girls, hmmm), and I worked out that the mother who is now 44 started pumping them out at the grand old age of 14/15. Yikes! Maybe after a threesome with C and sister it will be time to work on the mother too. Never done that!

Second, the LDR thirst trap.

I now have a new girl who may end up becoming the primary (and already knows about my other playmates). Oh my. Looks like might end up along the lines of Old and Ugly's setup. Turns out she has been chatting with a guy online who is sending her money, and wants her to find women for sex and record or stream it for him to watch. She wants me to help find the women (the scenario came up because she mentioned to the guy that sex with other women is her fantasy, and she's only done it a few times) and then watch them fuck, and after they have then she wants me to fuck them both. I think I'm okay with that scenario! C is already in the lineup for some of this play, and it will be her first lesbian encounter. As far as I'm concerned if she can string these types of guys along to send her money when he's not even here, then that is entirely on him, and I'll happily let him fund us having fun. She wants to use some of the money he sent her to buy me a new motorbike. I note OandU's advice re getting your girl to do the hunting, which I'm sure will eventually end up as the case here.

Yeah, IMFITP.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3080498]As a Cebu resident for a few years now you definitely build up your roster of ladies that you can call on when you're needing a bit of distraction, varying from free to 2,500 peso. However, I just thought I would post something here today because it's been an interesting week!

First, the friends and family plan:

I have a lady (A) who will come to see me for massage plus any and all extras desired. Nothing barred. Not a particularly good looking lady, quite a bit heavier than is my preference, but as sweet as they come, and as I said open to anything. A few months ago she suddenly offered, unprompted, to bring friends over. She has introduced me to 2 at this point. The first one (B) is quite shy so A waits out in the living room while we have sex and then she comes in and they both give me a massage. The second one (C) is far more open and we have had some three-way play with A, although not at this point a true threesome (just focused on me).

A little while ago I happen to bump into B's profile on one of the dating sites and so connected to her there. I let A know that I had connected with C direct because of this but hadn't yet met her because I wanted to know if A was fine with me doing so. She said it was absolutely fine and all that she cared about was that I was happy! Since then however she has stopped talking to C and she did send me a message at one point saying how C has a live in partner. Seems that that is not true, and frankly I really don't care anyway. A continues to come over to give me massage and continues to claim that she has no problem with C. Filipinas and jealousy

So C was over today and while here asked me if I would like her to bring her sister with her sometime. Let me think about that - yes! Note that C is 4'11" and describes her sister (2 years younger) as 'tiny'. They are part of a brood of 7 (5 girls, hmmm), and I worked out that the mother who is now 44 started pumping them out at the grand old age of 14/15. Yikes! Maybe after a threesome with C and sister it will be time to work on the mother too. Never done that!

Second, the LDR thirst trap.

I now have a new girl who may end up becoming the primary (and already knows about my other playmates). Oh my. Looks like might end up along the lines of Old and Ugly's setup. Turns out she has been chatting with a guy online who is sending her money, and wants her to find women for sex and record or stream it for him to watch. She wants me to help find the women (the scenario came up because she mentioned to the guy that sex with other women is her fantasy, and she's only done it a few times) and then watch them fuck, and after they have then she wants me to fuck them both. I think I'm okay with that scenario! C is already in the lineup for some of this play, and it will be her first lesbian encounter. As far as I'm concerned if she can string these types of guys along to send her money when he's not even here, then that is entirely on him, and I'll happily let him fund us having fun. She wants to use some of the money he sent her to buy me a new motorbike. I note OandU's advice re getting your girl to do the hunting, which I'm sure will eventually end up as the case here.

Yeah, IMFITP.[/QUOTE]Let the girl do the match up, because they are the uneasy ones, and have all kind of issues, we fuck everything that moves and has a pussy. If they never did a proper 3 some, get them slightly drunk before starting to take off the edge, but don't get them totally drunk because they will ruin it.

Be careful with the videotaping, you may become famous on some porn channel.

Getting a lot of page timeouts and "Bad Gateway" errors the past week or so. Anyone else?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3081977]Getting a lot of page timeouts and "Bad Gateway" errors the past week or so. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Absolutely. You're not alone, almost non-usable for several periods of time.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3081977]Getting a lot of page timeouts and "Bad Gateway" errors the past week or so. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've been getting heaps. Today seems the first time that it's working properly for a while.

I did experience quite bit of times in past one week, I thought it was limited to Philippines.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3081977]Getting a lot of page timeouts and "Bad Gateway" errors the past week or so. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3082046]I did experience quite bit of times in past one week, I thought it was limited to Philippines.[/QUOTE]They are upgrading the site to protect from attacks.

Things are looking better most everyday, 62.62.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3082500]Things are looking better most everyday, 62.62.[/QUOTE]Not really dollar value has gone up 10% and prices of everything have gone up 20%. It looks good on paper but reality doesn't reflect it. Everything is more expensive now.

Interestingly enough, I managed to get a rate of 62 at the airport. In most countries, though, airport exchanges don't give the best rates, so I didn't convert a large amount. In Makati, I checked several places and found a couple offering 61.50, while most others were at 60.5.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3082500]Things are looking better most everyday, 62.62.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beavis;3082995]Not really dollar value has gone up 10% and prices of everything have gone up 20%. It looks good on paper but reality doesn't reflect it. Everything is more expensive now.[/QUOTE]Are you a resident buying buying daily groceries, utilities etc?

As a monthly warrior, my biggest expenses are hotels, girls and food (in that order) and I haven't noticed a big increase in my USD cost. If anything, some prices have gone down.

This is in the last year or two. Yes, most prices doubled during / after Covid.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3083081]Are you a resident buying buying daily groceries, utilities etc?

As a monthly warrior, my biggest expenses are hotels, girls and food (in that order) and I haven't noticed a big increase in my USD cost. If anything, some prices have gone down.

This is in the last year or two. Yes, most prices doubled during / after Covid.

G.[/QUOTE]I live here full time and spend pesos every day. So whether you have noticed or not I have. The weakening peso isn't helping prices.

[QUOTE=Beavis;3083154]I live here full time and spend pesos every day. So whether you have noticed or not I have. The weakening peso isn't helping prices.[/QUOTE]Sure. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Merely pointing out that we may be buying different things so noticing different changes in prices.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3083177]Sure. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Merely pointing out that we may be buying different things so noticing different changes in prices.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]No problem but the weakening peso is only lucrative for a few days. During the pandemic it was 46 so anything over 50 is good. The prices at the local markets reflect it. Fresh Tuna (while still very cheap compared to western prices) has gone from 320 per kilo to 500 per kilo. Still much cheaper but just justifying that the weakening peso isn't helping the local economy. SML is now 65 vs. 45 before at Alfa Mart. It's all working out, To benefit, jump on quick before the local economy catches on. But even so, still less than half of US prices including airfare. As well the lack of customers has driven the girls to a point that they are more than willing to accept a much lesser rate than normal. Offer less and agree to adhere to normal rate for great service can become a good approach.

[QUOTE=Beavis;3083231]....................................................As well the lack of customers has driven the girls to a point that they are more than willing to accept a much lesser rate than normal. ............................................................................[/QUOTE]That's normal during the summer months.

Another ferry disaster in the Philippines! Man!

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/philippines-ferry-fire-6714628c11e1fafab17d93b8eece2aad[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3083450]Another ferry disaster in the Philippines! Man!

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/philippines-ferry-fire-6714628c11e1fafab17d93b8eece2aad[/URL][/QUOTE]Rescue has been halted due to nightfall, and will resume in the morning. Typical PH bullshit, they never heard of flashlights, spotlights, or just floating blind around the burning ship? So dear survivors please hang tight until the sunrise!

WTF, they even have fisherman boats full of downlights for fishing shrimp and octopus at night, they do that every night close to my house.

Scary, I take the ferry to get to the mainland, and I always think of bad stuff every time I set foot on board.

I used to live in Turda where the accident happened some years back when I was together with a drunk model that had a house there, and I managed to stay alive not from the burning boats, but from her drunk driving, what a nightmare that was.

It goes down and up more than a Burgos street girl.

Planning 1st trip to Philippines. So, so some basic dumb Questions. Manila / Angeles City / Makati. What are these 3 locations. All part of Manila metro? What is the best or rather the most optimal location for 3-4 day trip end of October- accommodation / girls / fun? Any particular differences between the locations?

Assuming it is an easy mongering location like Bangkok??

Any hotel recommendations.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085346]Planning 1st trip to Philippines. So, so some basic dumb Questions. Manila / Angeles City / Makati. What are these 3 locations. All part of Manila metro? What is the best or rather the most optimal location for 3-4 day trip end of October- accommodation / girls / fun? Any particular differences between the locations?s.[/QUOTE]All great questions which thru the magic of ISG all your answers are in the respective forum posts. Please read the past posts and make your own decisions. It is all there.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085346]Planning 1st trip to Philippines. So, so some basic dumb Questions. Manila / Angeles City / Makati. What are these 3 locations. All part of Manila metro? What is the best or rather the most optimal location for 3-4 day trip end of October- accommodation / girls / fun? Any particular differences between the locations?

Assuming it is an easy mongering location like Bangkok??

Any hotel recommendations.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Manila proper and Makati are a part of the larger Metro Manila metropolis of approximately 20 million inhabitants. Angeles City is about an hour outside of Metro Manila and is located near the former Clark Airforce base. I would say a week at the minimum should be allotted for visiting these 3 areas, two weeks would be better. About the girls, imo, the entire country is a red light district: filipinas are available everywhere found in multiple locales: bars, clubs, on the street, in malls, and, of course, via the internet.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085346]Planning 1st trip to Philippines. So, so some basic dumb Questions. Manila / Angeles City / Makati. What are these 3 locations. All part of Manila metro? What is the best or rather the most optimal location for 3-4 day trip end of October- accommodation / girls / fun? Any particular differences between the locations?Assuming it is an easy mongering location like Bangkok??
Any hotel recommendations.Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just 3-4 days, anticipate regrets. Although not my preferred playground, for any cherry trip, I would recommend AC. Since your trip is so short, just go directly from the airport straight to AC, and plan to do the same on the return.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3085395]Just 3-4 days, anticipate regrets. Although not my preferred playground, for any cherry trip, I would recommend AC. Since your trip is so short, just go directly from the airport straight to AC, and plan to do the same on the return.[/QUOTE]Or if you're willing to spend more then go straight to Makati and stay close to P. Burgos street and go to Lips first, V8 second and Kojax / Plan B third. There are more bars but those 3 should keep you plenty busy for 3 or 4 days.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;3085429]Or if you're willing to spend more then go straight to Makati and stay close to P. Burgos street and go to Lips first, V8 second and Kojax / Plan B third. There are more bars but those 3 should keep you plenty busy for 3 or 4 days.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for all the prompt thoughtful replies.
Got conflicting opinions AC vs Makati, for me 3-4 days is lot of time (beyond that boredom and nothingness kicks in).

Are both locations well connected to the Airport. Is it trains or cabs? How far are they from each other -commutable - doles not appear? Maps show Makati close to the airport and AC plenty far - is it worth the effort?
Assuming mongering options are similar??

If not for ISG how will someone make such esoteric complicated decisions from long distances.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085440]Thanks for all the prompt thoughtful replies.
Got conflicting opinions AC vs Makati, for me 3-4 days is lot of time (beyond that boredom and nothingness kicks in).

Are both locations well connected to the Airport. Is it trains or cabs? How far are they from each other -commutable - doles not appear? Maps show Makati close to the airport and AC plenty far - is it worth the effort?
Assuming mongering options are similar??

If not for ISG how will someone make such esoteric complicated decisions from long distances.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]All have good connections to NAIA. Cab or Grab (think Uber) to Makati or Genesis bus direct to AC.

Manila traffic is really bad so, at the wrong time, they can all be about an hour away from each other. You're not going to walk between any of them and with only 3 days, it's best to concentrate on just one.

Personally, I wouldn't leave Makati. You don't say how you prefer to find girls but Makati has more of everything:

I find Burgos bars more fun than AC. On site, girls are far more playful and some bars have VIP rooms where FS is available onsite. Barfine a girl and her tip is post paid (AC is fully paid upfront before leaving the bar) so there is a much greater incentive for the girls to provide a good time. Runners are rare.

AC really only has one freelancer bar where as Makati has many in Poblacion all within walking distance of each other.

There are hundreds of girls online at any time. Yes you do have to be wary of scammers but that's the same everywhere.

If you want to head upmarket, Seeking and the online outcall brothels have many options.

AC does have ready access to many cheap street walkers but they can be very rough.

I'd even argue that AC has lost its main drawcard. It's no longer a place of boundless cheap sex with hot young girls. Now a AC barfine is going to be 5 or 6 K vs 10 k for Burgos and the hottest girls there are often reserved for Korean customers.

There are pretty girls everywhere but I think it's fair to say that the hottest girls follow the money and end up in manila. You're going to find more blistering hot girls there and it also lifts the average of the typical girl you will find online or in person.

I look forward to reading a post of whatever you do decide.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;3080498]As a Cebu resident for a few years now you definitely build up your roster of ladies that you can call on when you're needing a bit of distraction, varying from free to 2,500 peso. However, I just thought I would post something here today because it's been an interesting week!

First, the friends and family plan:

I have a lady (A) who will come to see me for massage plus any and all extras desired. Nothing barred. Not a particularly good looking lady, quite a bit heavier than is my preference, but as sweet as they come, and as I said open to anything. A few months ago she suddenly offered, unprompted, to bring friends over. She has introduced me to 2 at this point. The first one (B) is quite shy so A waits out in the living room while we have sex and then she comes in and they both give me a massage. The second one (C) is far more open and we have had some three-way play with A, although not at this point a true threesome (just focused on me).

A little while ago I happen to bump into B's profile on one of the dating sites and so connected to her there. I let A know that I had connected with C direct because of this but hadn't yet met her because I wanted to know if A was fine with me doing so.[/QUOTE]Nice TR.

I am planning to visit Cebu for 2/3 days. Still debating whether to sgtay more days in manila or Cebu as this trip is more on sight seeing during the day time and evening few pops with some semi pros if possible.

I see online some waterfalls near Cebu are interesting which seems to be 3 to 4 hours drive.

Hence not sure if it is worth to a day trip or pickup some one in Cebu city and travel along with her so that no need to keep returning back to Cebu city.

Appreciate any local contacts who can travel along out of Cebu city. Got some hits on seeking but for obvious reasons I am not counting on them from here unless I get some vetted connections from expats down there.

Mak.

G,

Where is the freelance bar?

Regarding my previous post about digital pricing:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/5514080628818073[/URL]

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3085560]G,

Where is the freelance bar?[/QUOTE]In AC?? Mega Dance Club*. I guess you could also add Aqua at ABC to that description.

In Makati?? Lots on and around Burgos. But not where all the gogos are. The other side of Kalayaan. Google 'P Burgos Bars' and they come up.

Enjoy. G.

* Independent freelancers early in the night then bargirls after knock off hoping to get an (extra) customer for the night.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3085627]Regarding my previous post about digital pricing:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/5514080628818073[/URL]

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I watched it all, the conclusion is that we are fucked. AI is here already, is here to stay, is not used for our benefit, and is not destroying us in a glamorous way like we were imagining it with balistic missiles or the T1000 terminator model, but with accounting algorithms.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3085645]In AC?? Mega Dance Club*. I guess you could also add Aqua at ABC to that description.

In Makati?? Lots on and around Burgos. But not where all the gogos are. The other side of Kalayaan. Google 'P Burgos Bars' and they come up.

Enjoy. G.

* Independent freelancers early in the night then bargirls after knock off hoping to get an (extra) customer for the night.[/QUOTE]My mistake. I assumed from your statement that there was a dedicated bar in AC where FL's operated from and came and go. I don't stay up late enough for Mega Dance. I have seen a handful of FL in Aqua in the evenings. Hadn't partake in any.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3085677]I watched it all, the conclusion is that we are fucked. AI is here already, is here to stay, is not used for our benefit, and is not destroying us in a glamorous way like we were imagining it with balistic missiles or the T1000 terminator model, but with accounting algorithms.[/QUOTE]In the same way that first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a baby in the baby carriage: First comes digital pricing, then comes the Terminator.

[B]"I'll be back."[/B] -- Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3085444]All have good connections to NAIA. Cab or Grab (think Uber) to Makati or Genesis bus direct to AC.

Manila traffic is really bad so, at the wrong time, they can all be about an hour away from each other. You're not going to walk between any of them and with only 3 days, it's best to concentrate on just one.

Personally, I wouldn't leave Makati. You don't say how you prefer to find girls but Makati has more of everything:

I find Burgos bars more fun than AC.
There are pretty girls everywhere but I think it's fair to say that the hottest girls follow the money and end up in manila. You're going to find more blistering hot girls there and it also lifts the average of the typical girl you will find online or in person.

I look forward to reading a post of whatever you do decide.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]So looks like Makati is the winner. I will try plan suitably. Any hotel recommendations. Location, not exactly look for cheap "value ofr money" - assuming it is all 'girl friendly'?

Goiing to to new far away place requires plenty of effort / time / cost /. - nee as much information to make the decision / choice. So, very very much appreciate everyone's help.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085830]So looks like Makati is the winner. I will try plan suitably. Any hotel recommendations. Location, not exactly look for cheap "value ofr money" - assuming it is all 'girl friendly'?

Goiing to to new far away place requires plenty of effort / time / cost /. - nee as much information to make the decision / choice. So, very very much appreciate everyone's help.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you want to be close to the gogos or clubs there are hotels literally on Burgos or the side streets.

If you want better standard accommodation and / or things to do, then I prefer an Air BnB somewhere in Greenbelt. It's only 10 minutes to Burgos but a lot more to do withing walking distance.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085830]So looks like Makati is the winner. I will try plan suitably. Any hotel recommendations. Location, not exactly look for cheap "value ofr money" - assuming it is all 'girl friendly'?

Goiing to to new far away place requires plenty of effort / time / cost /. - nee as much information to make the decision / choice. So, very very much appreciate everyone's help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;3085904]If you want to be close to the gogos or clubs there are hotels literally on Burgos or the side streets.

If you want better standard accommodation and / or things to do, then I prefer an Air BnB somewhere in Greenbelt. It's only 10 minutes to Burgos but a lot more to do withing walking distance.[/QUOTE]Milano, Gramercy, or Knightsbridge residences (airbb condos) are a 6-8 minute walk from Burgos, and all are right next to the small Century Mall for Starbucks and groceries. About $40/ night for 3 nights. Right on Burgos is Makati Palace hotel, bit older, but nice big rooms. Across the street above Cubana Cafe (live band nightly) is the Royal Bellagio hotel ($50+ nightly). A block away on the corner of Makati Ave / Kalayaan St are the City Garden, and its sister hotel City Garden Grand; bit more pricey but CGG is well known for its GF-ly ways and its lovely rooftop pool and outdoor restaurant.

They are all GF-ly. Its difficult in the area to not find girl-friendly. Also on Burgos are 2 short-time hotels: Lokal (above and behind V-8 gogo bar) and Sogo hotel (corner Makati Ave / Anza, directly behind O'Reilly's gogo bar).

Greenbelt area is where the Ayala and Glorieta malls are located, more upscale, 1 mile west of Burgos on Makati Avenue. Google maps is your friend.

Get in there, punch some pink, write us a descriptive report.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;3085830]
Goiing to to new far away place requires plenty of effort / time / cost /. - nee as much information to make the decision / choice. So, very very much appreciate everyone's help.[/QUOTE]It's nice that you appreciate everyone's help, but with some time and effort you could have found most if not all of the answers to your numerous and mostly general questions yourself, by reading this forum. I'm surprised you got so many replies, and no straight RTFF.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3085920]I'm surprised you got so many replies[/QUOTE]On my part that usually means there has been a lot of rain here in the twigs for the past few days or a week. Difficult to get outside and for the girls to move about also. Gives me more internet time. Hope I can find a date soon.

The info site ******************** is down. Anyone got infos why? Hacked? Or did the side manager not pay the server-fees?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3085917]................... Right on Burgos is Makati Palace hotel, bit older, but nice big rooms. .........[/QUOTE]I have some nice memories from that place, very nice and relatively cheap for the area, but that's the place where I saw the biggest cockroaches ever, Indiana Jones style, so big that you can keep them as pets. It didn't bothered me, but I still remember it. Couldn't even step on it, because you'll make a mess similar to Texas roadkill, or you may loose your balance as they will try to take you for a ride.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3085987]I have some nice memories from that place, very nice and relatively cheap for the area, but that's the place where I saw the biggest cockroaches ever, Indiana Jones style, so big that you can keep them as pets. It didn't bothered me, but I still remember it. Couldn't even step on it, because you'll make a mess similar to Texas roadkill, or you may loose your balance as they will try to take you for a ride.[/QUOTE]Couple nights a week they have live band in the lobby / resto area. Guy plays guitar, girl sings love songs. Nice for a date.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3085987]I have some nice memories from that place, very nice and relatively cheap for the area, but that's the place where I saw the biggest cockroaches ever, Indiana Jones style, so big that you can keep them as pets. It didn't bothered me, but I still remember it. Couldn't even step on it, because you'll make a mess similar to Texas roadkill, or you may loose your balance as they will try to take you for a ride.[/QUOTE]Dayuuuum. I like to see tits and ass as much as the next guy but a pretty girl in a simple and cute dress presses the right buttons too.

Very nice. 👍.

G.

On my June trip to Angeles, I noticed that I did not get a complete refund on my Charles Schwab debit card. It was a sizeable amount, so I noticed it.

I called Schwab customer service. They said that Filipino bank did not breakout / separate their charges. So customer service had to write a ticket, and they investigated, and they refunded the money a few days later.

Schwab will refund the ATM charges on the last day of the month. It doesn't break out the refunds, so it's hard to verify that every ATM charge was refunded. Ya, Needham bank is better in regards that they will refund the money couple days afterwards. But the exchange rate is determined by your bank, and Schwab gives a slightly better rate than Needham (the last time I checked).

It happened on Fields. It was either PS or Metro Bank. Wondering if it is like that everywhere in the Philippines, or just Fields.

I hope they fixed the problem. I won't like having to call Schwab everytime I go to the Philippines.

Outside of North America, I stay away from ATMs, just keep $$ and exchange local currency on the need basis. I had few bad experiences, like ATMs not spitting out any cash, but confirming as if cash was received, crazy ATM charges, . List goes on.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;3087416]On my June trip to Angeles, I noticed that I did not get a complete refund on my Charles Schwab debit card. It was a sizeable amount, so I noticed it.

I called Schwab customer service. They said that Filipino bank did not breakout / separate their charges. So customer service had to write a ticket, and they investigated, and they refunded the money a few days later.

Schwab will refund the ATM charges on the last day of the month. It doesn't break out the refunds, so it's hard to verify that every ATM charge was refunded. Ya, Needham bank is better in regards that they will refund the money couple days afterwards. But the exchange rate is determined by your bank, and Schwab gives a slightly better rate than Needham (the last time I checked).

It happened on Fields. It was either PS or Metro Bank. Wondering if it is like that everywhere in the Philippines, or just Fields.

I hope they fixed the problem. I won't like having to call Schwab everytime I go to the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

If everything works perfect, you can withdraw max 10 k, about $200, and you end up paying $10 in fees, therefore I send each month western union to myself 100 k and pay about $4 fee.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087513]If everything works perfect, you can withdraw max 10 k, about $200, and you end up paying $10 in fees, therefore I send each month western union to myself 100 k and pay about $4 fee.[/QUOTE]Working with cash is the most expensive way to pay for things when overseas.

Last trip I lost my Wise card so, to conserve physical cash, I paid for as much as possible digitally. Flights, hotels, taxis etc were paid for online. Physical purchases were paid for with my Maya Pay / GCash. Even hookers were taking GCash without complaint. Transfer costs were trivial. I think fees were P15 to pay a girl for the night.

There was a time when the PI was largely a cash only society. That has totally changed as digital payments have exploded in popularity.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3087516]Working with cash is the most expensive way to pay for things when overseas.

Last trip I lost my Wise card so, to conserve physical cash, I paid for as much as possible digitally. Flights, hotels, taxis etc were paid for online. Physical purchases were paid for with my Maya Pay / GCash. Even hookers were taking GCash without complaint. Transfer costs were trivial. I think fees were P15 to pay a girl for the night.

There was a time when the PI was largely a cash only society. That has totally changed as digital payments have exploded in popularity.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I use GCash only to pay bills, send little money to girls for transportation, or Lazada, Visa CC for hotels, air, S&are. In rest cash is king, and leaves no trace.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087555]I use GCash only to pay bills, send little money to girls for transportation, or Lazada, Visa CC for hotels, air, S&are. In rest cash is king, and leaves no trace.[/QUOTE]I was cash everything. However loosing my Wise card meant that I was paying outrageous fees to use my home Mastercard to get it. Hence, I started looking at options and was amazed at just how little cash is required now.

I've since found out it's the same in most Asian hubs. Even at home, $100 lasts me months and there is actually a push on to use cash to keep it in circulation and limit the over reach of our friendly banks.

I'd agree that Cash is King for those who need anonymity.

Enjoy. G.

I still generally use cash as I get no charges at HSBC using my UK chase debit card. HSBC no ATM fees and chase don't charge.

But gcash is handy to have as others have said sending money to girls for transport, paying my globe load and some restos don't accept cash anymore. But I think you need an acr card to register although it may have changed now.

Anyone have problems accessing this site in ph? The site won't load using my condo wifi so I've not bothered trying for a while. But tried today just using my globe sim card and it works ok. Just wondering if it's a feature of just my condos wifi.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087513]If everything works perfect, you can withdraw max 10 k, about $200, and you end up paying $10 in fees, therefore I send each month western union to myself 100 k and pay about $4 fee.[/QUOTE]Additional Info:

Most ATMs in the Philippines will charge you either 250 or 300 pesos. Some of the $10 fee that some people pay is due to your shitty bank like BofA. Some banks will charge you foreign transaction fees, etc, etc. Get a better bank.

There is more cost for Western Union than the fee. Western Union will give you a lower exchange rate. That's how they make money. From my recollection, I believe it was between 1 - 1.3 lower than it should be.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3087614]I still generally use cash as I get no charges at HSBC[/QUOTE]

I would love to use the HSBC ATM. It also has a very high withdrawal limit. But there are no HSBC ATMs in Angeles.

There are at least 2 Union Bank ATMs in Pampanga in which you can withdraw 40K pesos (thanks to Mr. E for that info). Sadly, none of them are in Fields.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3087615]Anyone have problems accessing this site in ph? The site won't load using my condo wifi so I've not bothered trying for a while. But tried today just using my globe sim card and it works ok. Just wondering if it's a feature of just my condos wifi.[/QUOTE]I have this problem here on occasion when I travel inside Phils. Hotel or other residences whose units use a common ISP might have the site blocked. VPN around that system is a bit slower on page refreshes, but usually solves the problem. Alternately, as you said, using a different system (your phone or a cafe wifi) is the solution.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;3087633]Additional Info:

Most ATMs in the Philippines will charge you either 250 or 300 pesos. Some of the $10 fee that some people pay is due to your shitty bank like BofA. Some banks will charge you foreign transaction fees, etc, etc. Get a better bank.

There is more cost for Western Union than the fee. Western Union will give you a lower exchange rate. That's how they make money. From my recollection, I believe it was between 1 - 1.3 lower than it should be.



I would love to use the HSBC ATM. It also has a very high withdrawal limit. But there are no HSBC ATMs in Angeles.

There are at least 2 Union Bank ATMs in Pampanga in which you can withdraw 40K pesos (thanks to Mr. E for that info). Sadly, none of them are in Fields.[/QUOTE]I'm using other 4 shitty banks in US none is BoA, I'm not going to fly to US only to change the bank for a few peso less, WU works fine, each time I get a wad of money so big that doesn't even fit my pocket, and there is no need to chase for multiple ATMs to get the same amount. Anyway I never looked at the exchange rate, if I need it, then I need it regardless of the going rate. I'm very lazy lately, I don't even know what's the going rate exactly, but thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087725]I'm not going to fly to US only to change the bank for a few peso less, [/QUOTE]2026 is calling. No need to fly to the USA. You can open bank accounts online now. I have had Schwab for about 10 years and never stepped into a branch. For 5 or so years prior to that, I had HSBC and never stepped into a branch.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3087777]2026 is calling. No need to fly to the USA. You can open bank accounts online now. I have had Schwab for about 10 years and never stepped into a branch. For 5 or so years prior to that, I had HSBC and never stepped into a branch.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

I didn't step into a branch in long time also, but transferring money among banks in the US is a pain in the butt, and cannot Zelle to myself, because I tried and comes back to the same bank, the phone nr and email is the same.

Anyway as they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it! It works for me the WU way, and I've been doing it for years, don't really care if they take a small cut, and the most important thing is that it works everywhere in the world, I use the ATM as a backup.

Soon "they" will hit us with the red plague, and a new quarantine, I need to do a Manila or AC run before that happens.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087904]Thanks!

I didn't step into a branch in long time also, but transferring money among banks in the US is a pain in the butt, and cannot Zelle to myself, because I tried and comes back to the same bank, the phone nr and email is the same.

Anyway as they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it! It works for me the WU way, and I've been doing it for years, don't really care if they take a small cut, and the most important thing is that it works everywhere in the world, I use the ATM as a backup.

Soon "they" will hit us with the red plague, and a new quarantine, I need to do a Manila or AC run before that happens.[/QUOTE]True: each to heir own.

I must say that once I found that so much was payable online, and it was super easy, convenient tuen it quickly became my default payment.

No surprise that in the PH, instore payments are a cluster fuck of machines, phones and passwords. It's nowhere near as easy as VND etc but it still worked.

To this day, I'm still amazed at how readily and easily girls accepted GPay for services rendered.

To be fair, I don't have any concerns over payment histories or traceability. There are many guys for whom the anonymity of Cash is ideal.

Enjoy G.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3087614]
But gcash is handy to have as others have said sending money to girls for transport, paying my globe load and some restos don't accept cash anymore. But I think you need an acr card to register although it may have changed now.[/QUOTE]I understand from their website that you have to be Filipino, so I don't think GCash is available to tourists. Is that right?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3087979]I understand from their website that you have to be Filipino, so I don't think GCash is available to tourists. Is that right?[/QUOTE]GCash requires a foreigner to have a passport, local address and ACR card.

MayaPay doesn't need the ACR and will accept an Agoda booking as a local address.

Maya can recognise GCash QR codes and pay direct into business or private (eg restaurants or girls) GCash accounts.

Mayas big downfall is that GCash has Cash Out facilities everywhere. Getting physical cash out of your Maya wallet is far harder. Many exchanges, pawnshops etc refuse to do it unless you have a ATM card (which you can't get without an ACR card. Catch 22). I left PH with a positive balance because I couldn't spend my money in time and then couldn't get it out. No problem: it's still there for next time.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3087987]GCash requires a foreigner to have a passport, local address and ACR card.
MayaPay doesn't need the ACR and will accept an Agoda booking as a local address.[/QUOTE]Got it, thanks G.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;3087615]Anyone have problems accessing this site in ph? The site won't load using my condo wifi so I've not bothered trying for a while. But tried today just using my globe sim card and it works ok. Just wondering if it's a feature of just my condos wifi.[/QUOTE]Hi Jingo,

Like Westie, VPN works for me.

I've been using Proton and it's cheap and works.

I have problems accessing some banks at home and other online services while way.

I just switch my location with the VPN and all is fixed.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087904]but transferring money among banks in the US is a pain in the butt,.[/QUOTE]LOL. Man you must really be old if you call punching in the amount you want to transfer then clicking the button a pain in the ass! Yeah you can not zelle to different accounts using the same phone number and email.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3087904]Thanks!

I didn't step into a branch in long time also, but transferring money among banks in the US is a pain in the butt SNIP[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3087777]2026 is calling. No need to fly to the USA. You can open bank accounts online now. I have had Schwab for about 10 years and never stepped into a branch. For 5 or so years prior to that, I had HSBC and never stepped into a branch.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Haven't opened an account in a branch in at least 15 years. Opening, funding, and closing accounts is done on your device.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3088088]LOL. Man you must really be old if you call punching in the amount you want to transfer then clicking the button a pain in the ass! Yeah you can not zelle to different accounts using the same phone number and email.[/QUOTE]I have accounts at several major US banks (lets call them #1, #2, #3, and #4). You go into your account for #1, and tell it you want to link your bank #1 account to accounts at banks #2, #3, and #4. You have to give #1 the account and routing numbers for your accounts at #2, #3, and #4.

Once they are linked, you can transfer money to / from #1 and #2-4 anytime. I don't think there is a charge. Sometimes it might take up to 24 hours for the transfer to complete.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3088088]LOL. Man you must really be old if you call punching in the amount you want to transfer then clicking the button a pain in the ass! Yeah you can not zelle to different accounts using the same phone number and email.[/QUOTE]Routing number, account number, turn on the US phone nr to get the SMS with the OTP, open the app again from the OTP message, wire transfer fee, few days wait, and yes I am old and lately lazy.
WU, has all that saved in the app, just click resend, works like magic. For other more serious financial things I have to remote desktop into a computer in the US that's sitting in one of my friend's house in a closet and do it that way, because it's refusing to connect even via VPN, so when there is no workaround I get off my ass and do it.

Anyway, I do need advice on how to be able tu use my Wells Fargo CC in a simple way again, works fine for direct payments, but for about a year now whenever I do an online payment anywhere in SEA the "verified by visa" "let's make sure it's you" pops up regardless of the amount and purchase, hotel, flight, Bolt, Uber, Grab, etc. and I have to do the SMS, switch eSIM, open the bank app procedure, which is not feasible while on the street looking for a ride, I called the bank multiple times, and they're saying is not them.

Has anyone had their Globe Sim card cancelled for inactivity? I've received a generalist SMS saying that I should use it or loose it even though I have P600 of laid that doesn't expire until April 2027.

Can I just continue to buy topups before expiry or do I need to use the account?

"Are you still there?

Remember to top up or register to a Globe promo regularly to keep your Globe Prepaid SIM active. SIMs without load activity for an extended period may be at risk of expiration. ".

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3088435]Has anyone had their Globe Sim card cancelled for inactivity? I've received a generalist SMS saying that I should use it or loose it even though I have P600 of laid that doesn't expire until April 2027.

Can I just continue to buy topups before expiry or do I need to use the account?

"Are you still there?

Remember to top up or register to a Globe promo regularly to keep your Globe Prepaid SIM active. SIMs without load activity for an extended period may be at risk of expiration. "..[/QUOTE]Globe: Your SIM can expire if you haven't used it for a year since your last top-up. Additionally, if your balance reaches zero and you don't reload or use it for 120 days, it can be deactivated.

Smart: You have a 180-day grace period if your balance hits zero to reload and keep the account active. If you don't, the account is disconnected. Generally, an active SIM needs a reload or usage at least once every 180 days to stay valid.

DITO: This is the strictest among the major players. A SIM will expire if it is not reloaded or used for 90 days.

⚖65039; The "Prepaid Load Forever Act".

There has been a long-running push in the Philippine Congress to stop load credits from expiring. Bills like the "Prepaid Load Forever Act" aim to prohibit telcos from imposing expiration dates on prepaid load and forfeiting credits on active accounts.

The proposed compromise is that if an account becomes dormant (inactive for at least 1 year), the telco can deduct ₱1 per day from the remaining load until it runs out, rather than just wiping the balance clean. However, as of now, this is still proposed legislation and not the current rule.

How to Keep Your SIM Active.

To prevent your SIM from being deactivated and losing your number, make sure to perform at least one of these actions within the required timeframe:

Top up even a small amount (like ₱5 or ₱10).

Send a text message or make a call.

Use mobile data to browse or connect to an app.

If a SIM is deactivated, you usually cannot reactivate it. The number is returned to the pool for reassignment, and any remaining load credit is typically lost.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3088435]Has anyone had their Globe Sim card cancelled for inactivity? I've received a generalist SMS saying that I should use it or loose it even though I have P600 of laid that doesn't expire until April 2027.Can I just continue to buy topups before expiry or do I need to use the account?
[/QUOTE]Yes more than once my globe sim has been terminated. I've been topping up my acct every month or so and it seems to be working so far.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3088477]Yes more than once my globe sim has been terminated. I've been topping up my acct every month or so and it seems to be working so far.[/QUOTE]Just so I'm clear, was it terminated due to being empty of load for a long time or while you had load but didn't use it.

For the record, I've been using 12 month load packages but haven't been sending any smss or calls for a long time. Maybe I should send myself the odd message every few months.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3088491]Just so I'm clear, was it terminated due to being empty of load for a long time or while you had load but didn't use it.

For the record, I've been using 12 month load packages but haven't been sending any smss or calls for a long time. Maybe I should send myself the odd message every few months.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]If you don't make a call, txt, or use some data, there is a calendar-days limit. In the old days it was 90 days, but after covid they increased it. I don't think load amount matters. After the number of days unused the number expires. I thought that it was 365 days now. Out of the country I tried calling using the Smart SIM, but nothing happened. Same with txt or internet, nothing. I had to load a roaming promo (p150 I think), good for 3 stinking days. I made a txt from my country to Phils to keep the thing alive. That was around May of last year. Also my GC died on me about the same time. I kept getting "GC Welcomes you to YOUR COUNTRY!" notices me from the GC app. "Enjoy GC as you normally would in Phils on any wifi in YOUR COUNTRY". But after 30 days, GC stopped working and I had to Roam (again) every 30 days to get it working again. Great!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3088500]If you don't make a call, txt, or use some data, there is a calendar-days limit. In the old days it was 90 days, but after covid they increased it. I don't think load amount matters. After the number of days unused the number expires. I thought that it was 365 days now. Out of the country I tried calling using the Smart SIM, but nothing happened. Same with txt or internet, nothing. I had to load a roaming promo (p150 I think), good for 3 stinking days. I made a txt from my country to Phils to keep the thing alive. That was around May of last year. Also my GC died on me about the same time. I kept getting "GC Welcomes you to YOUR COUNTRY!" notices me from the GC app. "Enjoy GC as you normally would in Phils on any wifi in YOUR COUNTRY". But after 30 days, GC stopped working and I had to Roam (again) every 30 days to get it working again. Great![/QUOTE]Thanks. To be safe I just successfully sent myself a txt.

Sending the txt while at home, to my home number, used 20 p of load. I'll make a point of doing the same every few months just to keep everything active.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3088491]Just so I'm clear, was it terminated due to being empty of load for a long time or while you had load but didn't use it.
For the record, I've been using 12 month load packages but haven't been sending any smss or calls for a long time. Maybe I should send myself the odd message every few months.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]I don't ever let it get empty. It dies for various reasons, I can't really pinpoint which one it is. And yes even if it has load, and the date is still good for another 6 months, it has died on me before. I suspect it just needs some activity once in a while. So right now I add a little load every month or so, make sure I set ROAM ON for both globe and smart when I am away. I think its important to allow the sim to hit a tower every so often. Pretty sure if you have valid load, but are away from the PI for too long and don't have roam on and only use wifi, it will die, as it has for me before. I might be a little paranoid, but setting up a new sim and gcash if it dies is a hassle.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3088534] I might be a little paranoid, but setting up a new sim and gcash if it dies is a hassle.[/QUOTE]I'm the same. To be honest, the frequency of my visits has dropped off so I could easily get a new number each time but stepping off the plane with load, data, grab, MayaPay etc is worth the few dollars a year to keep everything active.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3088535]I'm the same. To be honest, the frequency of my visits has dropped off so I could easily get a new number each time but stepping off the plane with load, data, grab, MayaPay etc is worth the few dollars a year to keep everything active.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Same here, since covid, I am semi retired, and only do visits to PI every 6 months. Wish I could get my mayapay to work, since they added the OTP thing, I haven't been able to rely on mayapay to work.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3088539]Same here, since covid, I am semi retired, and only do visits to PI every 6 months. Wish I could get my mayapay to work, since they added the OTP thing, I haven't been able to rely on mayapay to work.[/QUOTE]Do you have everything turned on?

Have your Pay Maya phone number in a phone with the SIM turned on and roaming activated. You will then receive a txt to that phone / number even if overseas (ie not in PH). If I'm in my house, I received the OTP to the phone via WiFi. It doesn't even use load.

Suggest you double check all your phone settings.

Good luck. G.

NAIA Terminal 3 now has 24/7 ATM-type money changing machines. No idea the exchange rates or up-front fees.

More NAIA. Biometric immigration (considerably faster when I used them in my home country). Its quick, with no officer and no questions. You scan your PP photo page and in about 10 seconds, you either get a green light (pass) or a red light (secondary in-person screening).

How are Pinays with receiving oral? Thai women it is hit or miss but last time I was there it was mostly hit. Will I get a good meal with the girls of the islands?

[QUOTE=BadDances;3089685]How are Pinays with receiving oral? Thai women it is hit or miss but last time I was there it was mostly hit. Will I get a good meal with the girls of the islands?[/QUOTE]Name your price mate.

They generally go for full BBBJ and the full works, if they know and trust you.

The older girls have it perfected.

The younger ones still have some learning to do.

Just my experience.

_Phil.