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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1249596]That is the price they show you on the menu-card. I think they have noticed the tendency of many (newbee) farang to accept everything as long as it is printed.[/QUOTE]The next step is to have the menu card stamped and signed by the local Chamber of Commerce.
Hi all.
Wondered if anyone has any experience tracking down WGs who are Bi and perform with women?
My Filipino GF is meeting me in BKK this weekend and literally aching for pussy. We are planning some no-holes-barred fun with girls but want to be sure they're not just actresses who only want to help service me back at the room (my girl's got to have attention!).
Has anyone found places where bisexual WGs are more likely to be found? Any recommendations from others lucky enough to have the best of both worlds?
As we don't live there, AFF is a bit hit and miss and we want to focus on clubbing and collecting instead.
Any advice would be very welcome!
Also: hottest disco for freelancers? Still Intercontinental now the Nana Hotel's club has gone quiet?
I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.
[QUOTE=Asia Rob; 1250144]Hi all.
Wondered if anyone has any experience tracking down WGs who are Bi and perform with women?
My Filipino GF is meeting me in BKK this weekend and literally aching for pussy. We are planning some no-holes-barred fun with girls but want to be sure they're not just actresses who only want to help service me back at the room (my girl's got to have attention!).
Has anyone found places where bisexual WGs are more likely to be found? Any recommendations from others lucky enough to have the best of both worlds?[/QUOTE]As a measure of last resort, there is always Eden Club. But I would start by touring the agogos and perhaps asking the mamasan for some pointers.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250015]The fact that you point out she was not a stunner tells me all I need to know, yes I believe you paid 2000 baht.[/QUOTE]I prefer excellent service from a@non stunner@@non ugly@for 2000 thn starfish form an Optifuck for 4000. To each his own, mate.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1250029]Most expats choose to retire there because of cheap living and cheap pussy. They know where they can get cheap, unspoiled girls. There are plenty of non-descript bars where you can get non mercenary girls.
These girls you talk of probably avoid local guys too for the same reason.[/QUOTE]No doubt, but the hottest ones are going to be most sought after and will eventually command top price. Hence why the Oakland A's haven't been very good for quite a while since before Moneyball came out. Ya can't expect to get Albert Pujols like talent and expect to pay them a bench warmer's salary!
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1250158]I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.[/QUOTE]This rumour surfaces every so often, I think it is actually owned by the same indian family that owns the Landmark Hotel, but that could be a rumour also, most of the larger Sukhumvit hotels are owned by indian families, the Amari in Soi 5, the Westin and Sheraton, Landmark, JW Marriott etc. Maybe they need more car park?
wanting to make this a bj week i stopped in dj bj shop and while the set up was nice, the best looking girl in the bunch was the one receptionist or manager but she was not an option but i will be back to try it. went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and got the usual except the girl tried to use her hand too much so i had to keep moving it and told her only to suck, wanted a big tip for using mostly her mouth. also tried lolipop1 off soi 10. as soon as you reach that soi the sign for lollipop is there, the shop is in the alley behind the paradiso suites.
these girls were a better looking bunch and dressed cutely in their red tight fitting dress. had a light skin girl who jumped up and down as soon as she saw me turn the corner like i was her long lost friend, yelling hello, welcome. same set up as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s with the couch and curtains, two other customers next couch over but everyone knows the score so no shyness, just do it.
i crowned this girl the bj champion of the world when she was done as she used no hands and had a powerful vacuum suction. definitely going back to see her, she had a nice body and they do offer take out so for all you budget mongers, bjs bars are an alternative to the high priced go-gos. i like lollipop, lots of smiling by the girls and customers being made to feel like they are royalty for 700b, how can you beat this?
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1250158]I just heard a rumour about Nana Plaza being sold to land developers. Its merely a rumour at this stage. Can anyone else confirm this? My source is pretty reliable but I would like to see if anyone else heard this.[/QUOTE]Stickman reported on this last November. Was sold in fact but not to real estate developers. I expect he has his facts right as I have not heard differently.
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2011/Nana-Plaza.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250041]What is insane to you is peanuts to some people.[/QUOTE]That's not really the point. Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia? Believe me, almost all of the girls in the GoGo scene are Kias! For a Kia price they are ok, but not for the cost of a Benz. And hey, it is the punters who make the market, not the girls. But to echo Oldian's post, there will always be more and more suckers coming to BKK and keeping the prices inflated. More power to 'them. Of course I don't take GoGo girls as I find them a bit boring after all these years. After you have heard every story a million times, you just want service focused on you. As I have said many times before, I am not here to date working girls. Working girls are for service.
Hi guys,
Just a quick report to contribute something back to this great forum. To the locals, apologies if I overpaid, but I couldn't find a decent price estimate in the last 10+ pages I read through. The discussions here were a bit too lively. Also apologies if this report is too basic as I'm new to the scene.
Hit Soi Cowboy today. Actually visited every single one of the clubs but most seemed rather dead or felt bad. In the end, enjoyed Shark and Bacarra (sp?) the most. Ok music, attractive women and no sleazy feel. Bacarra was actually too full, so couldn't get a decent seat. Looked like it had better selection but hard to tell, since I didn't stay long. Ended up spending most of the evening in Shark.
Girls dancing on the stage rotated every 20 minutes. Once off the stage, the girls would sometimes approach you to chat. Bought a couple of drinks for them (100-200 baht) and chatted. In the end, took one home. Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST). Girl was cute, decent BJ action and friendly, but I wouldn't say GFE. English wasn't so great, but we muddled through. Had an enjoyable experience and would repeat with her again, although there were quite a few others in Shark that I would want to try out before returning to her.
Both Bacarra and Shark had large enough selections to cater to a lot of different tastes. There were the smoldering sexy ones, girl next door, innocent doe-eyed ones, etc.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1250339]That's not really the point. Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia.[/QUOTE]It is not a good analogy to compare cars to third world hookers, it is a simple fact of life that not all hookers are the same quality, they range from stunning to downright ugly, one may be more than happy to go LT for 2000 baht while her superstar sister demands (and gets) 4000 baht. You will never beat the power of market forces, if the girl is a stunner then she names the price not you.
[QUOTE=Bangkok2012;1250354]Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST).[/QUOTE]Was this a negotiated rate or did she just throw that at you and you agreed?
[QUOTE=Irjle; 1249658]For free? Did I say that, dear friend? What I said is that I was never, ever proposed 4k as a starting point nowhere in LOS. If that happened to you since 2006, I believe you and I am sorry for you, but for me is new and a rip-off. For LT I never went above 2. 5K for real stunners starting from maybe 3. 5 or 3. As you see I do not bargain that hard either. The real reason why I do not post much is that anything you say here, however innocent and in good faith, is modified or misunderstood and then thrown against you by someone who have too much free time and too little common sense.
Just like the other member that mentions 35. 000 baht as UK price: I do not understand how can you compare these two things. Dear fellow, next time you'll try to buy a home in UK for 400k GBP go say to the seller "Hey, but in Pattaya I can get the same flat for 30k GBP". Please record the reaction on camera and post it here, ok? That's entertainment![/QUOTE]It depends where you go and what your objectives are. True, you can get below 4000LT but this is a normal price there. Not a 'rip off' unless you consider 4000 Baht a rip off in general.
Personally I had the best experience in BKK for 600 (which was. Well. The barfine) from Rainbow 4. However I am content with 4000 baht as a going price for a girl I really like. It just doesn't make much difference to me whether it's 2. 5K or 4K or even free. If it would, I would go to places that are cheaper and I would also negotiate (I usually don't or just pretend that I do not to look like an idiot).
It also depends on your personal attitude and values. I don't bother going to a cheaper pub or bar to have my drinks in London to save money. Simply because I never save mone on it. Not because I'm rich (I'm not really) but because it's not something I can be bothered to 'save' on. I just go to a pub I like regardless if beer is £2. 5 or £4 there. 3000 or 4000 baht is not a sum of money that is going to make any difference to my financial situation despite the fact that being in one of those 'expensive' locations brings satisfaction which is worth more than that to me. It's a rather simple math here. If I wanted 'cheaper' I probably wouldn't even bother going to Thailand and spending several thousands of £ but just get a few hookers here in London. It would be cheaper.
Some are proud of bargaining down to 500 Baht LT. Fine. Not for me though. To everyone their own I guess.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1250276]Maybe they need more car park?[/QUOTE]Maybe more freelancers then? .
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1250339]Why would you pay Mercedes prices for a Kia?.[/QUOTE]Would we buy a pre-owned car from a mama-san who just made a deal with us for one of her girls? .
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1250451]Was this a negotiated rate or did she just throw that at you and you agreed?[/QUOTE]The 600 bar fine. 2,500 ST was thrown at me and my attempts to negotiate lower failed. I suck at negotiating and it was relatively early in the evening as well.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250424]It is not a good analogy to compare cars to third world hookers, it is a simple fact of life that not all hookers are the same quality, they range from stunning to downright ugly, one may be more than happy to go LT for 2000 baht while her superstar sister demands (and gets) 4000 baht. You will never beat the power of market forces, if the girl is a stunner then she names the price not you.[/QUOTE]Again, it is the consumer that names the price, not the supplier. If the customers won't pay, the price will go down.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1250398]This makes so much sense.
Gus who say they get [email]stuuners@short[/email] Time 1000-1500 woldnt know a stunner if one fell on their head from the sky. Hot chicks don't do 1000. 1500. Ok-some will do 1500 but thats it!
And its the attractiveness of the girl you are paying for not her pesonality-that comes next on down the line if you want to repeat.[/QUOTE]I find that very amusing. I have met girls that go to Spassos and ask for 3-5000 who then come into the Thermae or Gullivers and drop to 1. 5, I have met Rainbow go go girls who normally go 3-4000 who go for 1000 out on the street after work not having a customer. I recently met two lovelies in the BG who looked far upmarket and out of place, I asked them where they normally hung out and they told me Q Bar and Bed. I looked at them and point blank said,"wow, you must be taking quite a pay cut to come in here!" One laughed, and said yes, but that in those places there were too many guys trying to go for free, and too many ambiguities, whereas in the BG, it was plain and simple and everyone knew the score.
Actually, the rate of the girl has absolutely nothing to do with stunner (outside of the fact that a hottie can set a higher price because she probably has a lot more offers). It usually has far more to do with how many customers she has had that evening, how her finances are, how she likes you, how much time is left in the night, and a lot of other factors. One guy may pay 3000 for a girl whom another guy pays 1000 for. It actually is all up to the punter and what he is willing to pay, and frankly, too many guys I meet out there seem to think that the girl who is telling them an overinflated Bangkok price is the only one left in the universe. It also amazes me how many guys I see asking girls "how much?" In almost a decade here, I don't think I have done that once. I tell them, not the other way round.
My Bangkok trip was awesome. For all those looking for some action newly opened BOSSY near hotel skyotel in Batuna area is the best place. Its a disc with a entry charge of 300 batt with one drink. Worth it
Place is full of thai girls + some beautiful tashkent and ubeki girls. Low st and lt prices. Must visit place.
Enjoy life.
Shock 9 is a another disco but didn't do well to my expectations. Bar was nice same 300 batt with drink entry but all girls were not gud looking and even older in age. More of russians but old ones. Left ghe place in half hour and went back to bossy.) hehe hunting begins.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1250532]Again, it is the consumer that names the price, not the supplier. If the customers won't pay, the price will go down.[/QUOTE]The problem is that someone will always pay for quality, I met a guy last night who is staying at the Sheraton for 5000 baht a night, I asked him what he got that I didn't get in my 2000 baht hotel, he politely explained that money was not a problem and he lived in Dubai. This is the type of person you have to compete with.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250640]The problem is that someone will always pay for quality, I met a guy last night who is staying at the Sheraton for 5000 baht a night, I asked him what he got that I didn't get in my 2000 baht hotel, he politely explained that money was not a problem and he lived in Dubai. This is the type of person you have to compete with.[/QUOTE]Jimmy, the point is that you are not really getting "quality" out of a gogo. I have no problems paying for "quality" looks and "great" service, in fact I pay 2100 for an hour and a half at an oily, but the girls are always polite, have a good skill set, and there are many lighter skinned girls there as well. I also have no issue paying more for a looker at a Soapy, but to fork over the same amount for gogo girl who wants a rush job, no way.
Lower prices typically mean increased cycles. It's all pay for play but there are going to be different quality issues when a girl is doing 90 cycles a month vs. 30-40.
[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1248805]Is Easter a good time to come to Bangkok, in terms of weather, party atmosphere?[/QUOTE]No. Bad time to come. The girls don't fuck over Easter. It is about giving respect to religious festivals that involve death.
Hmmmmmm. But maybe you will get lucky and find a naughty one.
[QUOTE=Rosco4444; 1250688]No. Bad time to come. The girls don't fuck over Easter. It is about giving respect to religious festivals that involve death.
Hmmmmmm. But maybe you will get lucky and find a naughty one.[/QUOTE]Seeing that Thailand is mainly a Buddhist country I think not LOL. That's right, Soi Cowboy, Nana, Doc BJ's all closed for Easter! Ha ha Either bad joke or this guy is silly!
Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT. The range is based on time of the night, amount of customers, appearance level of the girl, distance to your hotel or apartment, your appearance / nationality, and how badly she needs money at the time. We can debate this topic until we are all blue in the face. There is no right or wrong price, nothing is too low or too high. Too many factors are involved. Just politely negotiate your deal with the girls and if it works out great, if not then move on to the next girl and or bar. You will find what you are looking for eventually. The best part of Bangkok is there are a wealth of Go go's, bars, massage places, BJ establishments and so on. Are you all really that cheap? I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I have seen some of the pictures posted in the photo gallery. Some I would not fuck with my dogs dick! But you know what? None of my business! Each of us has our own tastes, budget, experience and so on. Think about this the next time you brag about how well you negotiated or he paid too much. If you are so cool and full of yourselves, why do you have to pay for pussy? STOP THE MADNESS LOL. Just have fun and pay whatever you and the girl agree to. There is no right or wrong answer about the girls rates.
I have received a few PM's about my opinion about where to go in BKK. Here is my two sense worth. Believe me, maybe that is all it is worth LOL. For Go go's I prefer Soi Cowboy. It is cleaner and more organized. Only one Lady boy bar, which is clearly marked on the sign, no room for error. My favorite is Baccara. Best selection of girls, no bouncers in sight, drink prices and bar fine amounts are straight forward. You can always find one you like in there. The others are all hit and miss in Cowboy. If you have the time to explore then you can find one in another club. Freelance bars I enjoy are Climax, Thermae, and Insomnia. Sometimes the thrill of the hunt is fun. Massage places I enjoy are all outside the Huay Kwang MRT, just exit at number 3. My favorite is Nataree. The popason is straight forward with Farang prices, same as the locals, best selection of girls I have seen. Go in the right side. The left side is a scaled down version with bad girls. I really like Dr. BJ's, price and set up are straight forward, always good service. If you have more patience you can try the freelance / freebee scene. I use Date in Asia, Badoo, and Thail friendly. Sometimes it is a nice change but usually a lot of games and hassle, but you can get lucky sometimes. Cheers and happy mongering!
[QUOTE=Bangkok2012; 1250354]Hi guys,
Just a quick report to contribute something back to this great forum. To the locals, apologies if I overpaid, but I couldn't find a decent price estimate in the last 10+ pages I read through. The discussions here were a bit too lively. Also apologies if this report is too basic as I'm new to the scene.
Hit Soi Cowboy today. Actually visited every single one of the clubs but most seemed rather dead or felt bad. In the end, enjoyed Shark and Bacarra (sp?) the most. Ok music, attractive women and no sleazy feel. Bacarra was actually too full, so couldn't get a decent seat. Looked like it had better selection but hard to tell, since I didn't stay long. Ended up spending most of the evening in Shark.
Girls dancing on the stage rotated every 20 minutes. Once off the stage, the girls would sometimes approach you to chat. Bought a couple of drinks for them (100-200 baht) and chatted. In the end, took one home. Total damage was 600 bar fine. 2,500 for the girl (ST). Girl was cute, decent BJ action and friendly, but I wouldn't say GFE. English wasn't so great, but we muddled through. Had an enjoyable experience and would repeat with her again, although there were quite a few others in Shark that I would want to try out before returning to her.
Both Bacarra and Shark had large enough selections to cater to a lot of different tastes. There were the smoldering sexy ones, girl next door, innocent doe-eyed ones, etc.[/QUOTE]I can't believe you guys have a newbie apologizing on here for paying 2500ST LOL. This is just comical now. This is a more than fair price and the guy had a decent time.
Good report! I feel the same, Sharky is always my second choice if Baccara is too crazy. Always a few lookers there. No worries mate, you paid a fair price. Maybe you could have saved 500 Baht but woulld it have really been worth the trouble. Maybe you would have bought her and you another drink in the meantime. Then your saving is cut in half LOL.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1250739]L2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT.[/QUOTE]Where do your numbers come from? I have never heard or seen 2500 ST or 5000 LT being quoted anywhere, not even by the stunners at the top bars (and that's mostly who I go for). The top bars ask for 2000 ST and 4000 LT, as everyone knows and as reported many times in this forum. Sometimes you can negotiate. Less famous bars (Mandarin and Erotica in Nana for example) sometimes quote less even before negotiation, eg 1500 ST and 3000 LT.
Anything above the top bars standard rate of 2000-4000, I've never seen either in nana or cowboy.
Hi Folks,
Not my 1st time in BKK, but maybe one of you can enlighten me where the action is in Chinatown. I've seen a few well-worn pros up Yeowarat Road and in the "Soi Texas". Am aware of the Texas Massage and 199 Hotel, but that's not really what I am after. I've been told there is more, but where?
I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?
Thanks, Kenny
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1250810]Where do your numbers come from? I have never heard or seen 2500 ST or 5000 LT being quoted anywhere, not even by the stunners at the top bars (and that's mostly who I go for). The top bars ask for 2000 ST and 4000 LT, as everyone knows and as reported many times in this forum. Sometimes you can negotiate. Less famous bars (Mandarin and Erotica in Nana for example) sometimes quote less even before negotiation, eg 1500 ST and 3000 LT.
Anything above the top bars standard rate of 2000-4000, I've never seen either in nana or cowboy.[/QUOTE]One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1250745]I can't believe you guys have a newbie apologizing on here for paying 2500ST LOL. This is just comical now. This is a more than fair price and the guy had a decent time.
Good report! I feel the same, Sharky is always my second choice if Baccara is too crazy. Always a few lookers there. No worries mate, you paid a fair price. Maybe you could have saved 500 Baht but woulld it have really been worth the trouble. Maybe you would have bought her and you another drink in the meantime. Then your saving is cut in half LOL.[/QUOTE]. And I thought Sharky was in Phnom Penh. (Sharks is in Cowboy).
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1250828]One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
Giotto[/QUOTE]Of course! Someone who is so generous must stay in style all the way.
I tip when the performance is beyond what I expected. It has nothing to do with the initial price I agreed.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1250830]Of course! Someone who is so generous must stay in style all the way.
I tip when the performance is beyond what I expected. It has nothing to do with the initial price I agreed.[/QUOTE]Look, that cannot be right.
The lady is a service provider, and the fee is agreed upfront. Do you tip your doctor or dentist after treatment? No (because your health insurance does not cover the tip!). But - with a fee of THB 5000 she is somehow in the same service price range :) ...
I think this needs to be discussed urgently. We never had a real discussion about tipping!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1250739]Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT. .[/QUOTE]Total complete nonsense, I am there now. Never heard a fee of 5000 LT unless you are talking about the Russians in CM2, people like you simply drive prices higher.
I have been to several Gogo's and taken girls and never had a memorable experience. A great attitude and GFE not.
There are 1000's of SW's and FL's in the city that will fuck you good with GFE for 1K. No BF, no drinks, no loud music or BS. Why even go to these places.
But hey: its your time, money and sex life.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1250739]Look guys. All this crap about prices is really old now. It is so simple. Soi Cowboy and Nana is 150-160 Baht for a drink, be it lady or for us. Bar fines are about 600Baht. 2000-2500Baht ST and 3000-5000Baht LT.[/QUOTE]Talk about pricing is never old, and nothing in Thailand is ever fixed when it comes to pricing.
The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.
It really depends how well you can negotiate with the girls, and how shrewd or how much of a sucker you are. Remember, these girls are more ruthless and spoiled then ever before, so the lower price range is difficult but not impossible!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1250828]One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip?
Giotto[/QUOTE]Well. YES. We do not but as a big time hotel owner YOU do!
(I'd put in a smiley but it appears I have them turned off)
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1250839]Total complete nonsense, I am there now. Never heard a fee of 5000 LT unless you are talking about the Russians in CM2, people like you simply drive prices higher.[/QUOTE]Ummm. It looks like you're changing dogs in this fight Jimmy.
I thought we were talking "peanuts to some people"
I just wish that those who complain about the topic of discussion do not complain and then add their 2 cents into the topic.
I once took a girl years ago from Angel Disco, it was around 3am that we decided to take off to my room upstairs. Then while we were walking out the club with her girlfriend she said she was hungry and we all decided to have some food across the street with the street vendor (Thai style hot pot ). Maybe it was the MSG or something the next thing I know we were strip naked in the shower all together me getting a Thai club sandwich.
In the end, I had a great time with the both of them with condom wrappers all over the place and they left after noon. Price was never really discussed and my emotions and ego running high after and I was still a working man I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1250906](ship) naked in the shower all together me getting a Thai club sandwich. In the end, I had a great time with the both of them with condom wrappers all over the place and they left after noon. Price was never really discussed and my emotions and ego running high after and I was still a working man I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying? LBM[/QUOTE]Only if you paid for the soup!
[QUOTE=Giotto;1250828]One question: If I pay 5000 for LT, do I have to tip? Giotto[/QUOTE]Only if you are a rich American!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1250906]I pull out 5, 000 baht for the both of them. Was I overpaying?
LBM[/QUOTE]Yeah! Go back and ask for a refund. LOLOLOL
[QUOTE=Harold444;1250793]If this guy paid 2000 he would still be accused of overpaying![/QUOTE]I hope you mean 2000 Dollars LOL.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1250940]Only if you paid for the soup![/QUOTE]In fact, I didn't pay for the soup her girlfriend did? When she ask for the bill and the lady came she handed her a 1, 000 baht. While having soup and enjoying ourselves it was the girl that I pick that ask why I don't take her friend too? But regardless it just to show you in my book regardless of what anyone say we all at some point get burn or overpay.
LBM
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1250887]The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.[/QUOTE]No, 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1250951]But regardless it just to show you in my book regardless of what anyone say we all at some point get burn or overpay.[/QUOTE]Did you pay 5000 each or 5000 for both?
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1250887]Talk about pricing is never old, and nothing in Thailand is ever fixed when it comes to pricing.
The ranges you quote above aren't accurate, and will only lead to guys getting confused. It would be better to say that prices at Nana and Cowboy range from 1000-3000ST 1500-5000LT.
It really depends how well you can negotiate with the girls, and how shrewd or how much of a sucker you are. Remember, these girls are more ruthless and spoiled then ever before, so the lower price range is difficult but not impossible![/QUOTE]I am sorry but 1000ST is not common ad difficult as you said. I would not include that in the range! Even1500ST is not common on Soi Cowboy anymore unless you like fucking real dogs LOL. But to each their own.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1250913]This is all non-sense without pictures.
If you look at the girls in the phpto section (and don't vomit) I'd guess the avg paid is well below 1000.
I know this is too complex for some of you but some [email]girls@4000[/email] May be underpaid yet a 500 bahter may well be overpaid. God did create all girls the same same![/QUOTE]Well said!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1250829]. And I thought Sharky was in Phnom Penh. (Sharks is in Cowboy).
Giotto[/QUOTE]My apologizes I meant to say that.
Really I think the price issue should be dead. I don't care because I am tired of hearing all the crap about it! I have just as much right as anyone to complain because this forum belongs to all of us. The price issue is dead. There is enough info on here for 20 years of research. I agree with many other members. If you want to fuck a dog then go pay 1000 or 500 Baht. In Baccara many girls start with 5000LT if they are stunners. I have heard 5000Baht and I have heard 2500 for stunners. Who cares! The average range! Do you all know what average means? 2000-3000Baht ST, ok I will give you another 500. 2500Baht-5000Baht LT. What the f*k is the difference. As far as I am concerned if you can't afford an extra 500 Baht you should not even be doing this hobby for Christ sake! There is a well known site in Canada for this hobby. T*B. Never in my life have I heard this crap about someone causing prices to go up! If what some of you say is true and you can negotiate really low prices with the best stunners then when you combine it with those of us who pay too much LOL, it should all average out in the end.
Ok enough said please stop the madness!
Anyways went to Soi cowboy last night and took number 153. Best ass I have seen in a while, price was 3000LT. I love the way this girl rode me. The way she swung back and forth on my cock was pure bliss. All positions were on the menu. She gave a great BBBJ with DATY allowed. Two rounds later we fell asleep. Today round three ended 10AM. No tip and she was quite happy with the 3000Baht. In my book this is a fair price for LT for both parties. The girl is not seen as a cheater and we are not seen as an el cheapo ha ha.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1250814]You complainers are losing the argument by saying rainbow girls who normally go for 3-4000 short time are asking 1000 on the street. I'm very familiar with the most popular at rainbow 4 and they quote 2000 short time. AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING IT!
Not once has ANY rainbow girl asked for over 2000.[/QUOTE]I think you are misreading my post. Rainbow girls quote newbies, Japanese, or anyone else they think will be gullible enough to pay them 3, 4, or 5, 000 LT. And these girls did not ask for 1000 on the street, they pretty much figured out, after I spoke in Thai with them and they knew I'd lived here long enough and knew the ropes, that I probably wasn't going to pay more than 1 or 1. 5, and I agreed with them and told them I'd give 1, and they agreed.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1250592]On which planet does the customer set the price?
Re:500 baht short time girls. I'm sure a lot of guys get them at that price. Please look at photo section. Nothing but super ugly ass girls. Not even 1 who is just a littlte ugly.[/QUOTE]Were you here during the floods or during the mayhem of the preceding April / May? Prices were actually quite different. Thermae girls who normally don't budge from 2 or go with white guys were all of the sudden going with them for 1. 5. There just were no customers.
I traveled in Turkey years ago right after Ocalan, the Kurdish leader had been captured and reprisals had been warned. A good number of embassies had issued travel warnings about going to Turkey. Traveling along the coast, I went into lovely pensiones with balconies and marble floors, that normally went for $50 a night or more. When I asked about the prices, the owners would shrug their shoulders and look at me. If I said $20, it was okay, if I said $25 it was okay, it was just a complete buyers market and everyone knew it.
Everyone has their limits. If I normally work for 5000 baht an hour and someone offers me 4, I can choose to go below my normal wage and still earn good cash. If someone offers me 1, I can still earn cash, or I can choose to find that insulting and refuse.
Maybe a little less on treating the girls like a commodity on the stock exchange goes a long way into actually making the prices a lot lower for some.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1250965]No, 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.[/QUOTE]Of course it's not "normal", but it does happen, thus the range given.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1250965]No. 3000 ST-5000 LT is not in the normal range at all, and only paid rarely maybe by first timers who get ripped off, and even then that isn't tried so often.
Did you pay 5000 each or 5000 for both?[/QUOTE]It was for the both girls, I normally pretty much pay the going rate but this was an occasion I felt I got more than I expected and I was still working and the baht was 40 to 1 per the USD. Although I didn't pay for the soup indirectly in the end I did. I still have memories of that evening one of the best I've had in Thailand.
LBM
I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line. But, we are a grain of sand in the mongers who go to Bangkok. What % of mongers in BKK are on here? Maybe 1-2%. Most of us are not the ones who are paying higher prices. In fact some of the prices quoted here which seem high are much much less than many guys are paying out there.
You would have to try pretty hard to get a girl from a gogo bar for 1, 000 baht now a days I think. Maybe an ugly or old one.
The smoking hot girls all start at 2, 000 baht these days although I must say I am very out of touch with the gogo's as the service is poor, the attitudes terrible and the logistics are a hassle.
After 8 years in Bangkok I now only use 2 paid options (aside from Internet action) :
1. Tulip For 3 Holes, Deep Rimming, Cum In Mouth Porn Experience.
2. Nataree For Smoking Hot White Skin Thai Spec Girls.
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).
BB
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1250869]I have been to several Gogo's and taken girls and never had a memorable experience.[/QUOTE]
You are doing it wrong ;)
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1251086]It was for the both girls[/QUOTE]
5000 for 2 girls who took care of you until noon doesn't seem like too much to me :)
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1251116]
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).[/QUOTE]It's interesting you would rate Nataree so high after so much time here. Can you explain more why you think it's so great?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1251093]I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line. But, we are a grain of sand in the mongers who go to Bangkok. What % of mongers in BKK are on here? Maybe 1-2%. Most of us are not the ones who are paying higher prices. In fact some of the prices quoted here which seem high are much much less than many guys are paying out there.[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1250976]My apologizes I meant to say that.[/QUOTE]No problem at all.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1250898]Well. YES. We do not but as a big time hotel owner YOU do!
(I'd put in a smiley but it appears I have them turned off) [/QUOTE]OK.
I will tip. Let's think. How much?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1250980].
Never in my life have I heard this crap about someone causing prices to go up![/QUOTE]That's exactly the point.
Don't do never ever never ever ever never ever do don't do do don't do anything that could cause the prices to go up! That's bad. For all of us. Really bad.
WE are the customers. WE have pricing power (ask Mr. Bernanke if you want an explanation what that is). Let me tell you: It is NOT important how good your experience might be, it is IMPORTANT to keep the prices as low as possible! Really! You come to Bangkok to have fun, but please: DO NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY you have for others! Do not overpay! Keep the prices low!
LBM,
Fuck you!!! 2 girls LT for THB 5,000.00. That's very close to a deflationary scenario. Housing prices falling. That's bad. BTW, did you tip? May be not? You could have shared with me, and I then had taken over the tip. For sure, THB 50 for each. BASTARD!
The copper price was rising today, I was trading it on FXCM. I wanted to give tip. But there was no field where I could enter the amount. I complaint to the administrator of this stupid site. No tip field. How come?
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
Giotto
Ok. Suggestions on Prices taken. Back to the point.
I have been strolling around Nana Plaza since 2 days, visting every gogo bar possible. Time around 11 to 2pm. The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, Spankies undoubtedly has the best shows though.
I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed. I found more than 7-8 stunners there and others were not bad. I also got a girl along with me to my hotel room and there was no bar fine, however I had to pay for the girl upfront along with my bill. She did ask 2000 baht but happlily agreed for 1500 baht.
Regards,
A
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1251180]That's exactly the point.
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
Giotto[/QUOTE]I promise, I will not tip the girls at the LL, only the one who will successuflly open the marmalade portions at the breakfast. If she succeeds she deserve a good tip!
See you soon, Giotto!
[QUOTE=Kenny Rogers; 1250813]Hi Folks,
Not my 1st time in BKK, but maybe one of you can enlighten me where the action is in Chinatown. I've seen a few well-worn pros up Yeowarat Road and in the "Soi Texas". Am aware of the Texas Massage and 199 Hotel, but that's not really what I am after. I've been told there is more, but where?
I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?
Thanks, Kenny[/QUOTE]To Kenny,
If you want high end action Chinatown is not the place, I was in Bangkok China town few week ago didn't see many SW around outside of Texas massage but it was early around 5 pm most are low quality for 500-700 bht a pop, texas massage have a few girl only average 5-6 1500 bht not like 7 yr ago they have some nice sideliner.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1251093]I think having the price discussion is good. Maybe it will help some of us or others that read this down the line.[/QUOTE]Agree. Value for money is everything!
[QUOTE=Alpanico; 1251191]Time around 11 to 2pm. The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, Spankies undoubtedly has the best shows though.
I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed. I found more than 7-8 stunners there and others were not bad. I also got a girl along with me to my hotel room and there was no bar fine, however I had to pay for the girl upfront along with my bill. She did ask 2000 baht but happlily agreed for 1500 baht.
Regards,
A[/QUOTE]You realize why the Voodoo girls are the tallest and best looking? LOL
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1250592]On which planet does the customer set the price?
Re:500 baht short time girls. I'm sure a lot of guys get them at that price. Please look at photo section. Nothing but super ugly ass girls. Not even 1 who is just a littlte ugly.[/QUOTE]That is the nature of a market Harold. If customers won't pay the price, it goes down. As Oldian pointed out, if you were here during the floods and went to Thermae, gals who normally would never look at a Westerner were headed out the door with guys for 1500 ST as there were almost no Japanese to take them.
Folks tend to forget that the customer always has the power as we are the ones that have the money.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1251116]You would have to try pretty hard to get a girl from a gogo bar for 1, 000 baht now a days I think. Maybe an ugly or old one.
The smoking hot girls all start at 2, 000 baht these days although I must say I am very out of touch with the gogo's as the service is poor, the attitudes terrible and the logistics are a hassle.
After 8 years in Bangkok I now only use 2 paid options (aside from Internet action) :
1. Tulip For 3 Holes, Deep Rimming, Cum In Mouth Porn Experience.
2. Nataree For Smoking Hot White Skin Thai Spec Girls.
After trying pretty much every option here I am absolutely certain the above respresents the best of what Bangkok has to offer (especially Nataree).
BB[/QUOTE]Agree with you. My partaking is limited to Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, since I know what I am going to get, there is no drama, I am treated well and with respect, which I rightfully return, and the service is top notch. No need to go try to romance gogo girls.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1251180]That's exactly the point.
Don't do never ever never ever ever never ever do don't do do don't do anything that could cause the prices to go up! That's bad. For all of us. Really bad.
WE are the customers. WE have pricing power (ask Mr. Bernanke if you want an explanation what that is). Let me tell you: It is NOT important how good your experience might be, it is IMPORTANT to keep the prices as low as possible! Really! You come to Bangkok to have fun, but please: DO NOT FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY you have for others! Do not overpay! Keep the prices low!
LBM,
Fuck you! 2 girls LT for THB 5, 000. 00. That's very close to a deflationary scenario. Housing prices falling. That's bad. BTW, did you tip? May be not? You could have shared with me, and I then had taken over the tip. For sure, THB 50 for each. BASTARD!
The copper price was rising today, I was trading it on FXCM. I wanted to give tip. But there was no field where I could enter the amount. I complaint to the administrator of this stupid site. No tip field. How come?
Guys, let me remind you: The general rule is: It does not matter whether you have fun or not. Keep the prices low! It does not matter whether you have fun or not: do not tip! Think about the last copper trade you did, and YOU WILL BE OK!
Giotto[/QUOTE]With all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1251267]You realize why the Voodoo girls are the tallest and best looking? LOL[/QUOTE]They ate Wonder Bread as a child?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1251307]They ate Wonder Bread as a child?[/QUOTE]No, they were born with dongs!
[QUOTE=Alpanico;1251191]The best girls I found were only at Voodo's and next would be Spankies, I think Voodo choses only those girls who are tall, curvy and have some flesh where its needed.[/QUOTE]Would this "flesh where its needed" happen to be between their legs?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1251298]With all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.[/QUOTE]Word of the day: "Sarcasm" - Look it up.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1251364]Would this "flesh where its needed" happen to be between their legs?[/QUOTE]Not for me.
But is that where you look for the extra flesh in a girl (?)
Regards,
A
Some of the Japanese clubs in Pat pong.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1251298]With all do respect Giotto 2500Baht for each girl for long term? That is more than a fair price! Are you sure you understand? He did not pay 5000Baht each! I would really be curious to see the girls you fuck for 1000ST and 1500LT LOL Oh wait maybe even that is too much for you ha ha.[/QUOTE]Mooris7,
We need to discuss the difference between inflation and deflation ... next time.
THB 1,000.00 or THB 1,500.00 for LT? Naah, I don't pay that much. I am young and handsome, the girls usually pay for my drinks and go for free. Next morning I then get tip and money for the taxi home.
Life is hard.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1251231]Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.[/QUOTE]It depends on how ugly your girl is LOL.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1251231]Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.[/QUOTE]First thing to get straight on is you are building a house in Isaan, the wages are no more than $5 a day for workers / labourers, don't expect it will be built by real tradesmen. 100, 000 bht can buy a nice cement block room with a roof, and a veritable palace for not much more. One thing you should insist on if you do care somewhat about this girl / woman (assuming you do as you asked the question) is that you will only stump up for a house on land that is solely in her name. That stops the useless motorcycle riding ya ba freaks of brothers that will turf her out once the oldies die. Be prepared that you may well be older than her parents.
If you visit Isaan walk around a local mall, I once happened upon a local builder displaying homes, they were quite cheap for real houses that a farang would want to live in, most of us eschew the cinder block huts.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1251292]That is the nature of a market Harold. If customers won't pay the price, it goes down. As Oldian pointed out, if you were here during the floods and went to Thermae, gals who normally would never look at a Westerner were headed out the door with guys for 1500 ST as there were almost no Japanese to take them.
Folks tend to forget that the customer always has the power as we are the ones that have the money.[/QUOTE]So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1251705]So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?[/QUOTE]Thais don't care who gives them money, though, they do like the big spenders better.
Probably a lot easier to get the "farang" and cheap charlie dip shits to leave first.
Funny thing, from the looks of things these days, they already are!
A lot of talk about prices going up and the girls asking for more money. Is there a difference in another part of the world? If so I would like to know where it is located.
I can't afford a Mercedes but I can still have a car to get me to where I want to go. So it just depends on the model of your choice as some are more expensive than others. Just don't buy the extended warranty and rust protection.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1251817]What I don't understand is that prices are not going up. Guys say they paying the same 1000 baht for ugly girls that they paid years back. I don't see why the 1000 bahters complain so mut!
Re:2am nana [email]girls@1000baht[/email]! You guys do realize these girls are the ones who been on stage for 6 or so hours and werent able to pull a barfine. Try going to rainbow4 at 9 pm and midnight and you will be able to see tthe differnce in looks.
And do it several times-you will notice the same ones are dancing after 11 or so! These leftovers just can't compete with the pretty girls![/QUOTE]Makes you wonder why any guy worth his salt would be going to Climax, Insomnia, Bossy, or elsewhere at 2am, all those girls are just sub 1000 baht dregs who aren't good looking enough to be pulled. Must be something wrong with the male other brain.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1251746]A lot of talk about prices going up and the girls asking for more money. Is there a difference in another part of the world? If so I would like to know where it is located.
I can't afford a Mercedes but I can still have a car to get me to where I want to go. So it just depends on the model of your choice as some are more expensive than others. Just don't buy the extended warranty and rust protection.[/QUOTE]Of course you are absolutely correct. Moreover, there inflation that has happened over the year is very similar to the CPI anyway (as is documented ad nauseam here by people trying to make the opposite argument, spuriously). Not to mention that there is a much bigger market with much more variety BECAUSE of the market's attracting a variety of players.
But all of this is moot anyway, because ISG represents only a tiny, puny, irrelevant portion of the overall punters playing and paying, and there's simply no chance to create an effective collusion among mongers. None at all. Therefore anyone posting to this effect is doing it for entirely other reasons than his own benefit, or even the oft-purported benefit of all mongers.
I think 90%+ members of this forum are sick to death of this discussion, and I wish the moderator would ban it. Information on pricing is of course extremely useful. Endless bitching about people overpaying or prices rising is just clutter and has been the direct cause of otherwise helpful members (IMHO such as myself) becoming very uninterested in participating in this forum. Q. E. D.
ps - for the sake of clarity, I am not directing this post to or at anyone. I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic), and hoping that we can put the power of the community to actual use and, en masse, suggest that the moderator that we would like to end this nonsense for once and for all.
[QUOTE=Bonzo1; 1251943]Of course you are absolutely correct. Moreover, there inflation that has happened over the year is very similar to the CPI anyway (as is documented ad nauseam here by people trying to make the opposite argument, spuriously). Not to mention that there is a much bigger market with much more variety BECAUSE of the market's attracting a variety of players.
But all of this is moot anyway, because ISG represents only a tiny, puny, irrelevant portion of the overall punters playing and paying, and there's simply no chance to create an effective collusion among mongers. None at all. Therefore anyone posting to this effect is doing it for entirely other reasons than his own benefit, or even the oft-purported benefit of all mongers.
I think 90%+ members of this forum are sick to death of this discussion, and I wish the moderator would ban it. Information on pricing is of course extremely useful. Endless bitching about people overpaying or prices rising is just clutter and has been the direct cause of otherwise helpful members (IMHO such as myself) becoming very uninterested in participating in this forum. Q. E. D.
Ps. For the sake of clarity, I am not directing this post to or at anyone. I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic) , and hoping that we can put the power of the community to actual use and, en masse, suggest that the moderator that we would like to end this nonsense for once and for all.[/QUOTE]Thailand is perhaps the largest WG market in the world so while price information from experts who reside here is very valuable to those of us who have only visited short time a few times. There is a futility in trying to impact prices. The market is simply TOO big. In Bangkok alone, it has to be at least 10, 000 plus transactions per night, probably alot more. However I do consider those that reside here as having far more knowlede than ocassional visitors. So I carefully read everything they write. What I find particularly fascinating about this market are several things. 1 the ambiguity factor of G club dancers 2. The ratios of a dollar spend here on "social matters" relative to other major cities in the world. For example, comparing to NYC, its seems the cost of living in Bangkok is approx is one third that of NYC. But more importantly the (dollar assisted) social scene for an average middle aged guy would be approximately 10 times more valuable for each dollar spend in Bangkok. Lets say someone could spend $ USA 60, 000 after tax cash per year in Bangkok which is virtual poverty in NYC. Lets say 20, 000 was for the social factors and 10, 000 was for housing. Excluding food, transportation and miscellaneous. That would mean 60, 000 in Bangkok could be equal to at least after tax 260, 000 in NYC and even even then, I can't even imagine one being to acquire in NYC in pay for play related terms even at after tax $260k in NYC what I believe could be done in Bangkok. The point is the ratio could be far higher than 10 to 1, it might be 20 to 1 in regards to the social factor, even if could find it in NYC. Tokyo probably similar too, not sure. These are the kind of questions experts might have valuable insights into.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1251231]Help!
My thaigirlfriend wants me to buy a house in isaan for the family. You know-I don't want to overpay and ruin the market, can I get a range pf proper pricing.[/QUOTE]This is the reason you are having such a hard time comprehending overpaying for pussy? You are talking about building a house and overpaying? You are a farang you will overpay whether you like it or not!
Let me ask you this? What is the percentage wherever you come from that you would build a house for your girlfriend family. America the answer is no, England no too, Germany no too? Etc. Etc? As for Thailand what would be the percentage that she would ask a Thai man to build a house for her family? The big chance is that the Thai man would get some recycle material and nail and put up a tin can shack for them and that would be a upgrade. As for you when it comes to a house in this particular case just considering the request and not married is overpaying out of the gate. If you don't she will keep you in the pocket until somthing better comes along or build her the house?
LBM
[QUOTE=Bonzo1;1251943]I'm merely responding to the littering of the forum (witness even a week or two ago when there was something like 6 straight pages on this topic),.[/QUOTE]This thread has been been getting so boring, it hasn't been worth reading much lately (with the odd exception). I will be returning to BKK next week and will post on places where I found great new girls. Would be nice to have great girl mongering experience reports dominating this thread! Guys who want the cheapest should really leave Bangkok, or arrange a girl to come to Bangkok. I will be calling a girl I know in Prachinburi with D cups to come to Bangkok specially for me. She is a bit older but still a lot youger than me and hard up for money so I will get a good mult-session deal. I can't be bothered to go to her. Then I will move on to some soapy / oily / bar girls that I have been pining for (known reliable super girls that are always fab). Will still make time to try somone completely new, but only if irrestible.
[QUOTE=Nishu617; 1250601]My Bangkok trip was awesome. For all those looking for some action newly opened BOSSY near hotel skyotel in Batuna area is the best place. Its a disc with a entry charge of 300 batt with one drink. Worth it
Place is full of thai girls + some beautiful tashkent and ubeki girls. Low st and lt prices. Must visit place.
Enjoy life.[/QUOTE]Nishu. Thanks for this. Back to BKK in less than 5 weeks. What sort of time is best to be there and I presume busy Thurs / Fri / Sat?
Thanks Sir.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1251705]So, if all the japs leave nana / cowboy then prices will go down there also? Hmmm, how can we pull this off?[/QUOTE]Get a megahorn and walk thru the complexes at 1am. Announce: "Free Sushi on Soi 11". They will leave quickly.
Juist a comment from a previous contributor. It was mantioned that the girls going to the disco's are the left overs from nana and other places. I do believe that to be incorrect. I do know from personal knowledge that many of the girls work in places that are not busy on a certain night or they are looking for another round of activities for the night. I have a couple of friends who have done this and I will tell you they are quite good looking and have very nice figures.
Now personally I don't hit the disco scene, but I have to assume that other girls are in the same situation and like to add to their bank account. Some ever will dance the night away as it is also fun to them.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1252056]Juist a comment from a previous contributor. It was mantioned that the girls going to the disco's are the left overs from nana and other places. I do believe that to be incorrect. I do know from personal knowledge that many of the girls work in places that are not busy on a certain night or they are looking for another round of activities for the night. I have a couple of friends who have done this and I will tell you they are quite good looking and have very nice figures.
Now personally I don't hit the disco scene, but I have to assume that other girls are in the same situation and like to add to their bank account. Some ever will dance the night away as it is also fun to them.[/QUOTE]Seems to be mixing up apples and oranges. The original commenter was referring to go go's like Rainbow 4 and bar fines, then someone else mixed this in with discos like Insomnia. Climax and Bossy. The later category very much influenced by the spillover exiting from soapies, and given the astonishingly large number of massage girls working in Bangkok, its hard to believe you'd necessarily by 2 am always run out of top end FLs in these clubs.
There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."
[QUOTE=Cusland; 1251981]Nishu. Thanks for this. Back to BKK in less than 5 weeks. What sort of time is best to be there and I presume busy Thurs / Fri / Sat?
Thanks Sir.[/QUOTE]For BKK anytime is the best time. LOL
I am looking forward to the rainy season.
The airport immigration queues are bad at the moment, far too many "dumb tourists" around and generally not very nice at all.
Will be happy when we get back to low season and back to nice short queues at Swampy and much less human traffic on the footpaths / shops / malls / bars etc.
Humbug!
Last time I was in Bangkok, the Bangkok Beat bar was kind of slow / lacking talent. Has it picked back up? Or still more of the same?
I will have a few open minded female friends joining me in BKK next week. I am familiar with the Nana area so in the past, I have taken a female friend to Angelwitch because of their classy & somewhat artistic shows & to Carnival on the 3rd floor of Nana Plaza for the mechanical bull. These two bars were very nice & not pushy with lady drinks.
I also plan on taking them to the Bier Garten on Sukhumvit Soi 7 for the live music & 3 litre beer servings.
Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars? Thank you in advance for your helpful recommendations.
Arrived in Bangkok on a morning flight. Rested for a few hours and headed to Annie's. It is fairly simple to find it. Any newbie and prelocate it on the internet. As advised in the forum and website, took a taxi to a near by hotel. In my case J. W. Marriot. When you come out of the hotel, turn left and walk about 50 to 75 metres and you come to Annie's.
About 25 girls were in the fish bowl. I took No 28. Good energetic service. Managed 3 shots and took the allocated 2 hours. Got a decent upstair room. Price 2500 baht at entrance.
Chrismonger3
I also want to add that though the girls on the website has names with letters, what I saw in the fish bowl were numbers. I met 28 on my first visit to this place and as I can remember her name was "Nam." May be I missed a trick but I cold not locate ones on the website in the fish bowl. If other seniors who visit this place know anything on this let me know. It was my first time here. So I might have missed something.
The photo's of the rooms that were on the website however very accurate.
Chrismonger3
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1252134]There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."[/QUOTE]Great post, hilarious beliefs but mostly true for me too. PS:There may have been someone on the grassy knowl though.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1252667]On more than 1 occasion I notice pink pearls post come with medical tests for his hookers. Whats up with that?
In theory its a great idea. But in practice if a girl gets her own test, it would make me wonder WHY? Is she having unprotected with every tom, dick, and somchai for an extre 200 baht?[/QUOTE]Many of them are for no extra baht. Hope people realize that.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1252482]I am looking forward to the rainy season.
The airport immigration queues are bad at the moment, far too many "dumb tourists" around and generally not very nice at all.
Will be happy when we get back to low season and back to nice short queues at Swampy and much less human traffic on the footpaths / shops / malls / bars etc.
Humbug![/QUOTE]I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration, despite sprinting off the plane to beat the other 300 passengers. I suggested to the immigration officer that it didn't make tourists feel very welcome and perhaps this was their intention? I received a scowl for my efforts.
Luckily all thoughts of annoyance at the wait were put to one side when Jet Airways failed to deliver my bag."Still in Mumbai, Sir".
Great start.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1252574]Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars?.[/QUOTE]Suzie Wong is my favorite. Not pushy for LD, nice shows, good music (not too loud) and a nice line-up of ladies.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1252697]I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration, despite sprinting off the plane to beat the other 300 passengers. I suggested to the immigration officer that it didn't make tourists feel very welcome and perhaps this was their intention? I received a scowl for my efforts.
Luckily all thoughts of annoyance at the wait were put to one side when Jet Airways failed to deliver my bag."Still in Mumbai, Sir".
Great start.[/QUOTE]It is bad, but you got balls. I have seen them jack people up there. I don't know for what, but I personally would not give them any problems.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1252134]There is nothing new under the sun. As usual over 90% of new girls I try are throwaways, one and done. This trip I am batting 0 for 2, so sticking it mostly to those gems found in the haystack collected over the years. Luckily some of these are still available to me, while others have moved on & disappeared from my usual haunting grounds, as far as I can tell. Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels.
The other day my TG was sucking the banana for an hour, damn she is good, with the scenery of a bubble butt in the background. Then we proceeded to bare spoon humping doggie style, and wound up the second hour with BLS & CIM. Damage 4K or the equivalent of four 30 minute STs at 1000 B apiece. Fab deal & fully intending to repeat.
Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.
"I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."[/QUOTE]"Of course most sex starved visitors to the Pinnacle of P4P are happy just to be in the same room as a doable naked woman, so aren't picky as to service, attitude and looks as longtime residents in the City of Angels."
I nominate for line of the year.
As to Bumrungrad, no idea that Thais are getting doctor visits for 350, I thought it was around 700 for everyone, unless they have gone through the roof surcharging farang. Why on earth go to Bumrungrad for an HIV test when you can go to the Red X clinic which is highly professional, fast, efficient, without hassle, and very anonymous. I believe it runs something like 3-400 baht. Last time I went there, if you went in with a partner, testing was free for the duo.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1252667]On more than 1 occasion I notice pink pearls post come with medical tests for his hookers. Whats up with that?
In theory its a great idea. But in practice if a girl gets her own test, it would make me wonder WHY? Is she having unprotected with every tom, dick, and somchai for an extre 200 baht?[/QUOTE]I send or take the girls for the test and pay for them too. If she is negative then she is probably much safer than one who is of unknown status re how she would test. If she is positive you have nothing to do with her & thank the pooning gods you just dodged a bullet. So this is just one of various ways to make yourself safer if you prefer not to have sex with condoms.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1252719]Suzie Wong is my favorite. Not pushy for LD, nice shows, good music (not too loud) and a nice line-up of ladies.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply! I forgot to mention that it is one of the girl's birthday next week. Is there anyplace that she can be somewhat interactive with the girls? I'm not saying sex in a back room but something on stage as part of the show.
I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1252697]I arrived yesterday at 7. 30am and queued exactly 1 hour at immigration.[/QUOTE]Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
[url]http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html[/url]
FK
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1252796]Thanks for your reply! I forgot to mention that it is one of the girl's birthday next week. Is there anyplace that she can be somewhat interactive with the girls? I'm not saying sex in a back room but something on stage as part of the show.[/QUOTE]I have never seen it happen in Suzie Wong, but I may have just missed it.
Better ask the mamasan if such a thing is possible on stage.
Of course if you pay one of Suzie Wong's girls a LD, then she will come and sit with you and you can become somewhat "interactive" with her.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1252890]I have never seen it happen in Suzie Wong, but I may have just missed it. Better ask the mamasan if such a thing is possible on stage. Of course if you pay one of Suzie Wong's girls a LD, then she will come and sit with you and you can become somewhat "interactive" with her.[/QUOTE]If you want to have your girl get up on stage at Suzie Wong, find a friendly mamasan (or "'lead" server).
Then throw some money around, buy some drinks for some dancers (the "bi-er" the better), get them to "make out" with your girl, finger their p*ssies while your girl DFKs them, throw some more money around (tips), more drinks (tee-keee-laaa), etc.
Get your girl to hike up her skirt, and take off her shirt (sexy black underwear will do), and tell the mamasan you want her up on the floor / stage (tip, tip).
Loosen them up with alcohol and baht, and it will all come true. PM me if you want a wingman (they know me there). ;)
Then take them back to your room and have an orgy. Easy, if you step up to the plate and are willing to "pay to play." :)
[QUOTE=Florida Keef; 1252868]Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
[url]http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html[/url]
FK[/QUOTE]I might try this. At least you can get the rock star treatment upon arrival. And maybe even a date if you can charm the greeter LOL
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1252750]It is bad, but you got balls. I have seen them jack people up there. I don't know for what, but I personally would not give them any problems.[/QUOTE]I did wait until he had stamped my passport before commenting. :)
[QUOTE=Florida Keef; 1252868]Some might find this useful. Not exactly cheap BUT includes transport. Not tried it. But some of the greeters are worth a going over.
[url]http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html[/url]
FK[/QUOTE]The other option, if you fly Buysiness, is to choose Thai, in which case you can use the fast track line on the extreme right of the immigration area. I came also from Mumbai some weeks ago and arrived more or less at the same time than the Jet flight, but I was out, luckily with my luggage, in less than 15 minutes.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1252800]I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.[/QUOTE]This is very true but it works both ways too! Some guys think it is a one way street and go through more girls than the girl has gone through customers?
LBM
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1252134]Lady is recently tested HIV-N. As a local she got the Thai rate for doctor's fee in Bumrungrad of 350B compared to 1000 & up for farang. Although when I called the hospital was told the rate is the same for both, however this may have been in reference to the test fee and facility fee, which appear to be the same for both non Thai & Thai. 860 and 210 baht, respectively. BTW the overall cost for Thais seems to have gone up around 500B in the last year or two.[/QUOTE]It is very possible that Bumrungrad is doing bar girls test at a discount as a public service, I struck the same thing in Hong Kong 30 years before, a large GP clinic was giving free Hepatitis check for food handlers.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1252899]Finger a agogo dancer pussy on stage?
You want the guy carried out on a stretcher!
Man ohh man. What bars are you guys going to?[/QUOTE]Come on down to Pattaya and go to X-Zone. Not only do you get to finger, but they encourage you to fist them as well. I had one fist in a girl's pussy and the other in her ass at the same time. They put condoms on my hands and lubed them up beforehand though.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1253111]Come on down to Pattaya and go to X-Zone. Not only do you get to finger, but they encourage you to fist them. I had one fist in a girl's pussy and the other in her ass at the same time. They put condoms on my hands and lubed them up beforehand though.[/QUOTE]I know you are serious, but I cracked up on your read. They put condoms on your hand? WTF. That is hilarious.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1252899]Finger a agogo dancer pussy on stage?
You want the guy carried out on a stretcher!
Man ohh man. What bars are you guys going to?[/QUOTE]Suzie Wong. I once licked a dancer's pussy on stage. I was sitting next to the stage and one of the dancers came very close to me, teasing me with her nude pussy. Well, my tongue was faster than she was. I did give her a LD afterwards, of course.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1253114]I know you are serious, but I cracked up on your read. They put condoms on your hand? WTF. That is hilarious.[/QUOTE]More like sandwich bags and bear grease.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1253012]It is very possible that Bumrungrad is doing bar girls test at a discount as a public service, I struck the same thing in Hong Kong 30 years before, a large GP clinic was giving free Hepatitis check for food handlers.[/QUOTE]It is concievable. One TG I took there said it was the Thai rate. I've also been told there are clinics where working girls can get it done free.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1252800]I'm not one to preach on raw-dawging hookers in Thailand, but don't kid yourself just because a bar girl says she has a neg-HIV that she is in the clear. A false positive can occur up to 3 months after infection. Or she could be lying about having taken the damn test in the first place. A bar girl saying she is clean and free of STD is like a blind woman saying you're you're a hansum fella.[/QUOTE]This is why I insist on seeing the HIV test results with picture & other identification on the test papers. Otherwise it's a waste of time as far as my purposes are concerned.
[QUOTE=Oldian; 1252757]As to Bumrungrad, no idea that Thais are getting doctor visits for 350, I thought it was around 700 for everyone, unless they have gone through the roof surcharging farang. Why on earth go to Bumrungrad for an HIV test when you can go to the Red X clinic which is highly professional, fast, efficient, without hassle, and very anonymous. I believe it runs something like 3-400 baht. Last time I went there, if you went in with a partner, testing was free for the duo.[/QUOTE]On the phone they told me 1000 & up for doctor's fees, which vary from doctor to doctor, and they wouldn't give me an exact fee for the doctor before seeing one. Re testing where is the Red X located? I like Bumrungrad for it's convenience being close to my hotel and it's rep as a world class hospital. I also require the HIV results on paper, in English, and with picture and other identification, all of which Bumrungrad provides, so "anonymous" would not suit my needs, at least if I sent her alone. The process for being tested involves filling out an application, getting your mug shot, seeing a doctor, giving your blood for the test and seeing the doctor again re the results an hour or two later. The first two steps are for the first time only, and though there will likely be some waits, they are seldom over 30 minutes. This isn't an issue for you if you send the girl on her own. But, yes, Bumrungrad has a rep for being more expensive than other hospitals and clinics in Bangkok, let alone Thailand as a whole. It seems the feeling I've gotten from Thai people is that it is a more quality institution as well.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1253123]Suzie Wong. I once licked a dancer's pussy on stage. I was sitting next to the stage and one of the dancers came very close to me, teasing me with her nude pussy. Well, my tongue was faster than she was. I did give her a LD afterwards, of course.[/QUOTE]Sweaty and salty?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1252894]I might try this. At least you can get the rock star treatment upon arrival. And maybe even a date if you can charm the greeter LOL[/QUOTE]The total for both fast track and car service appears to be 1900 Bhat. Jamaica has something similar, I might try this in a few weeks
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1253203]Sweaty and salty?[/QUOTE]Sweet and spicy!
[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1252574]I will have a few open minded female friends joining me in BKK next week. I am familiar with the Nana area so in the past, I have taken a female friend to Angelwitch because of their classy & somewhat artistic shows & to Carnival on the 3rd floor of Nana Plaza for the mechanical bull. These two bars were very nice & not pushy with lady drinks.
I also plan on taking them to the Bier Garten on Sukhumvit Soi 7 for the live music & 3 litre beer servings.
Any recommendations in the Soi Cowboy area of similar fun bars? Thank you in advance for your helpful recommendations.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you're just planning on sightseeing or a little more, but maybe this helps.
My GF and I spent time at Soi Cowboy last weekend and bar fined a very energetic and accommodating girl from Shark (where we were impressed by the range and quality of girls, albeit the lack of a show). She sat down next to my girl while I was in the restroom, mistakenly thinking she was Thai (she is Filipino) and they were already exploring each other's pussies by the time I returned from what I thought was a pretty quick restroom break!
Next door is Baracca where GF enjoyed the glass floors and mirrors (the girls dance with loose miniskirts and nothing underneath).
Nana is really nowhere near as nice as Soi Cowboy (and I wouldn't take anyone to Patpong anymore). Angelwitch has good shows, but the bucking horse you refer to is now a ladyboy bar. And seemed to be closed from what we saw from standing on the other side.
We also enjoyed Climax, a nightclub which gets going from around midnight, on soi 11 (Sukhumvit). Access is through a car park under a hotel on the right hand side about half way down the soi. It's signposted. The range of freelancers inside was pretty good and the music. Live and DJ. Is good.
Hope that helps!
GF is back home now and already asking how soon we can go back for a repeat.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1253154]It is concievable. One TG I took there said it was the Thai rate. I've also been told there are clinics where working girls can get it done free.
This is why I insist on seeing the HIV test results with picture & other identification on the test papers. Otherwise it's a waste of time as far as my purposes are concerned.
On the phone they told me 1000 & up for doctor's fees, which vary from doctor to doctor, and they wouldn't give me an exact fee for the doctor before seeing one. Re testing where is the Red X located? I like Bumrungrad for it's convenience being close to my hotel and it's rep as a world class hospital. I also require the HIV results on paper, in English, and with picture and other identification, all of which Bumrungrad provides, so "anonymous" would not suit my needs, at least if I sent her alone. The process for being tested involves filling out an application, getting your mug shot, seeing a doctor, giving your blood for the test and seeing the doctor again re the results an hour or two later. The first two steps are for the first time only, and though there will likely be some waits, they are seldom over 30 minutes. This isn't an issue for you if you send the girl on her own. But, yes, Bumrungrad has a rep for being more expensive than other hospitals and clinics in Bangkok, let alone Thailand as a whole. It seems the feeling I've gotten from Thai people is that it is a more quality institution as well.[/QUOTE]Bumrungrad is a first class institution, it is just that the stories coming out of there about surcharging and price gouging in the past few years are becoming common. Bangkok General and Samitivej are also of equal caliber, same pricing, maybe a tad less chance of getting gouged? Yeah, if you want picture I'd, then Red X anonymous isn't going to be for you, but why not just go down with the girl and test together, then you get results together. The Red X clinic is near the Ratchadamri BTS station, need to get out and walk south towards Silom another 10 minutes, big octagonal beehive like building on your right, big sign saying Australian / Thai HIV research center or something like that. I tend to only use the fancy intl hospitals for major stuff, or if I want a guaranteed proficient English speaking doctor. Other stuff, far better to go elsewhere.
I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1253320]I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
Thanks[/QUOTE]There is a mamasan / manager walking around. Tell her what number you want and she will tell the girl to go to your table.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1253320]I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If your tilac is in a "line-up" dance then you can just smile at her and call her over, even during the dance. That is indeed the whole idea of the line-up.
If she is in a choreographed dance or show then you will have to wait until she is finished or (your best bet) , tell her number to the mamasan or a waitress who will take care that she will join you after the dance.
[QUOTE=Carrib;1253217]The total for both fast track and car service appears to be 1900 Bhat. Jamaica has something similar, I might try this in a few weeks[/QUOTE]I have been to Jamaica well over 150 times and I have never heard of this. The closest thing I found was [url]http://www.airportvipservices.com/service.php?sid=75[/url] Which seems to have world wide service but at a very steep price: $385 (US).
It has never taken me more than 20 min to completely clear into Jamaica, even with several planes landing at once. Jamaica has mastered the art of processing tourists with great efficiency. I'm usually in my rental car within 30 minutes of touching down.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1253444]I have been to Jamaica well over 150 times and I have never heard of this. The closest thing I found was.
[url]http://www.airportvipservices.com/service.php?sid=75[/url]
Which seems to have world wide service but at a very steep price: $385 (US).
It has never taken me more than 20 min to completely clear into Jamaica, even with several planes landing at once. Jamaica has mastered the art of processing tourists with great efficiency. I'm usually in my rental car within 30 minutes of touching down.
Pogo[/QUOTE]The jamaican version is only for fast track VIP departures if you purchase access to their lounge. It was 30 dollars the last time used it and you are whisked thru immigration and of course gain access to the Mobay lounge. The lounge opened last year and I used it in July. Same service is provided in Kingston.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1253442]If your tilac is in a "line-up" dance then you can just smile at her and call her over, even during the dance. That is indeed the whole idea of the line-up.
If she is in a choreographed dance or show then you will have to wait until she is finished or (your best bet) , tell her number to the mamasan or a waitress who will take care that she will join you after the dance.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Luvpuss;1253385]There is a mamasan / manager walking around. Tell her what number you want and she will tell the girl to go to your table.[/QUOTE]Thanks Guys, wish I had clarified this in advance. Ah well there is always neXXXt time.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1252913]The other option, if you fly Buysiness, is to choose Thai, in which case you can use the fast track line on the extreme right of the immigration area. I came also from Mumbai some weeks ago and arrived more or less at the same time than the Jet flight, but I was out, luckily with my luggage, in less than 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]Yes, I generally go this route as well. Useful. There is also Fast track in between the two regular immigration areas.
FK
[QUOTE=Margaya;1253504]Thanks Guys, wish I had clarified this in advance. Ah well there is always neXXXt time.[/QUOTE]I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
C
[QUOTE=Calcal; 1253667]I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
C[/QUOTE]The girl will ask you to. Just give her the money. Or the mamasan. Or the bartender. It's not nearly as difficult as it sounds.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1253320]I was in Baccara recently and under the imporession that girls swon over prospective clients as soon as they finish their dance but somehow did not see it happening. Girls were either all huddeling together in one corner or going behind stage.
So how excatly do you connect with a girl you like? I understand the usual smile and smile back part but what is the point if girls don't comve over to you after the dance? Are we supposed to ask the waitress for passing the message? Or are we supposed to get up and show some boldness by approaching her as soon as she finishes the dance?
Please enlighten me someone.[/QUOTE]
It depends on the bar. Baccara is Japanese style, which means the girls are taught not to bother the clients unless they're called for. Japanese guys don't want girls pestering them, and if you've ever had some unattractive girl sitting right next to you and not leaving, you can understand their logic. So if you want a girl in Baccara, it's often best to ask the waitress. Just ask for her by number, or you can point.
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1253704]In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.[/QUOTE]If you are shy and do not dare to approach the girls, go to Afterskool in Soi Cowboy. Guaranteed to have at least three girls asking you for a ladydrink before your but hits the barstool.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1253703]The girl will ask you to. Just give her the money. Or the mamasan. Or the bartender. It's not nearly as difficult as it sounds.[/QUOTE]In Suzie Wong they actually even give you a printed receipt for the bar-fine.
[QUOTE=Calcal; 1253667]I actually have a related question. In practice, how do you pay the barfine? Walk up to the bartender and say "one beer and number 17 please"? :P.
I've been hobbying in europe but going to Bangkok for the first time soon and haven't been able to find an answer to such a basic and maybe stoopid question.
C[/QUOTE]The bar fine you pay when you take the girl away with you, so a deal has been done by then. Often the mama-san acts and she will make sure that the barrfine is added to the bill and the story is short.
Suzie Wong lineup is rather poor now, with many very short puffy girls. Sister bar Shebas is a much better line up if you like slimmer girls like me. Shows are the same, even the bad ones like fire show, ping pong and needle show. Checked out Baccarat, and noticed that many girls chosen by Japanese customers were very plain looking to my taste. Pale washed out makeup look, pointy nose and small mouth. Still a few very nice lookers to my taste. Had drinks with two Buri-ram sisters whose faces were so alike I thought they were twins at first, although Tuk-a-taa was taller (possibly the tallest girl in the place) than older sister Taan. Just 1 year age difference. Both had big lips and big eyes and danced better than most girls. Didn't ask if they do double fantasy bookings. Had been with Tuk-a-taa previously.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1253798]The bar fine you pay when you take the girl away with you, so a deal has been done by then. Often the mama-san acts and she will make sure that the barrfine is added to the bill and the story is short.[/QUOTE]Having asked the girl if she wants to go with you, or be "bar-fined", you can just hand her the bar-fine cash, and she will go off and get her normal clothes on. You can well discuss with her first, how long she can stay with you, and the price. I am experienced but rarely discuss the price as girls take it for granted that I will pay them properly, as I don't have a stingy image. Probably because I speak Thai well too. As pointed out, bar-fine can be added to your bill. Any bar waitress can organise if a mamasan is not handy. So its simple. No need to be shy about it, as bar-fines are happening all the time and girls want it, unless they don't like the customer or are waiting for their regular customer, or having a period.
Be warned, that if you are really keen on a girl, don't take ages to get to the bar-fine part, otherwise, a guy who knows the girl already could just walk in off the street and bar-fine the girl imediately, even if you have been buying her drinks. Only take long enough to make the right choice on a girl that will suit to you.
There are some special dancers who go with customers only very rarely, but 90% of girls are keen to be bar-fined ASAP. Avoid Coyote Bars.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1253704]Japanese guys don't want girls pestering them, and if you've ever had some unattractive girl sitting right next to you and not leaving, you can understand their logic. So if you want a girl in Baccara, it's often best to ask the waitress. Just ask for her by number, or you can point.
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.[/QUOTE]This is one good thing about Bacarra IMHO. I hate annoying girls. Its not hard to make it known you are interested, just with signals. I find I can just give a girl a look or a wink, point to her, and make a drinking motion with my hand. She will understand I am offering to buy her a drink very easily. If she is unsure, she will point point to herself with a questioning look, and then you simply nod a Yes.
If you are shy, you can use a waitress to help, but be very sure she understands which is the correct girl. There are so many girls there.
You can get a knock back (or just nothing happens) when the girl already is with another customer, but sometimes have to be patient till she finishes dancing and has gone to toilet, etc.
Has anyone visited dr BJ on soi 7/2. Lately? How are their services. I walked upto it few nights ago. But didn't venture in. While pondering what to do, I met a girl at the place two doors next to it and spent the evening + dinner with her. Costed me 1800 baht inclusive of room and FS.
Chrismonger3
Had a second visit to Annie's. I personally feel, if they take the full two hours promised and minimum of two shots. The money spent is worth it here. This time choose a younger one. I think experience matters as the service and attentiveness was not as good as the previous encounter. But saying that, it wasnt as bad as some of the other places.
Chrismonger3
visited angel massage palour on sukhumvit soi 26. ask the cab to take me to tara imperial hotel and then just find soi 26 and walk down a few metres. the first lane to your right, you will see the place. i went in the early afternoon. surprisingly most girls were available. they have a good system for choosing girls where you look through a catelogue of the girls pictures. there are stickers placed on the page indicating if the girl is working today, busy or available. once you have an idea of 3 or 4 girls you like, you may peep your head into the room they are seated and do the final choosing. before i peeped my head in to choose rina came out. and as she was one of my choices, i didn't hestitate to take her. i like ones with big boobs.
her service was very good and her tits were amazing. she has some nice tatoo's on her back. which was a turn on. her massage was good. the only hitch. i do however feel the cost for massage and fs is too pricey. but since the service was very good, in this instance. i have no issues.
chrismonger3
Today had a look in Shark. Girls looked like clones of Baccara girls. Weird hairdos, bright lighting to make them look pale and washed out, and no real stunners to my taste. Didn't stay that long. Decided to look at Nana Plaza first time since last Nov I think. Vegas did not impress me. Decided to try Rainbow 4 again. Their lineup was extremely impressive. I have never seen so many stunners at one time even to Farang taste, not just for Japanese. This was a vast improvement on my previous visit, many months back, even though was past 11PM.
I was looking at No. 51 (incredible body) when she got called by a Japanese looking customer. They soon both disappeared (ST?). I was amazed to see her back dancing on the stage no more than 40 mins later. She didn't even miss her rotation of the 3 dance groups, I believe. I then spyed a girl from a distance who looked a bit bored but whose face reminded me of Dolores O'Riordan (of the Cranberries). I called her over for a drink but immediately regretted it. I spoke to her in Thai but she insisted on answering in semi-unintelligible English where normal girls will speak Thai. She admitted she was drunk, which seemed an understatement. Could not tell if was alcohol or something else. She didn't touch her drink and wanted to be bar-fined immediately, but I was taking it easy, so she said she would go away. Later she came back, but I had no interest any longer.
A customer walked in with easily the most stunning girl in the room, dressed like to go to a classy club, but seemingly returned to the bar and I was suprised to learn she worked there. Looked like mamasan was trying to get him to BF her again, asuming had taken her away earlier.
I liked 106 but she seemed to be busy with another customer.
I had watched an Issan girl with a great body 048, but she didn't want to look at anybody (seemed distant) and her jaw looked slightly strange due to braces, so ended up taking her friend / sister for short time instead. It was 1AM+ and she only asked for 2K, maybe because she could see I spoke Thai and was experienced. She said she normally would ask for 2. 5K. She performed quite okay but clearly not experienced, and complained I took a long time to come, but really not more than 15 mins of actual screwing. Is that too much? Anyway she was a quite enjoyable fuck, so that is what matters. Probably won't repeat unless her hot sister comes along too.
Really there were so many hot looking girls to pick from of various styles. Very limited fatties though.
[QUOTE=Chrismonger3; 1253919]Has anyone visited dr BJ on soi 7/2. Lately? How are their services. I walked upto it few nights ago. But didn't venture in. While pondering what to do, I met a girl at the place two doors next to it and spent the evening + dinner with her. Costed me 1800 baht inclusive of room and FS.
Chrismonger3[/QUOTE]I was there end of Jan. 700 or 1000 for BJ CIM depending on girl you choose. I thought the place was decent.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1253776]In Suzie Wong they actually even give you a printed receipt for the bar-fine.[/QUOTE]That is good to know. I will put it on my expense report for reimbursement.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1254114]are.
She said she normally would ask for 2. 5K. She performed quite okay but clearly not experienced, and complained I took a long time to come, but really not more than 15 mins of actual screwing. Is that too much?[/QUOTE]It is when you're competing with the japs! They've ruined every mongering scene they've touched! But, that's just the way it is nowadays. Got to put up with it or move to another spot.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1254295]It is when you're competing with the japs! They've ruined every mongering scene they've touched! But, that's just the way it is nowadays. Got to put up with it or move to another spot.[/QUOTE]Last week in Manila a taxi driver was telling me about those guys. He said they take out loans before they travel. That is how their paper gets to be so long. He also mentioned the 322 shit or whatever you guys call it. He said the girls here in PI rather go with them because they have small tools and as soon as they put it in it's time to take it out. He said the girls have small insides and they know if they go with an American he is going to stay up in her and stretch her out. It's easier and more money and less of a strain on their bodies to go with the Japanese brothers. I guess some guys on this forum know what they are talking about. Pic of a girl here in Cebu last night.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1254125]That is good to know. I will put it on my expense report for reimbursement.[/QUOTE]I am sure your accountants will be thrilled! Let them know their money was well spent.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1254295]It is when you're competing with the japs! They've ruined every mongering scene they've touched! But, that's just the way it is nowadays. Got to put up with it or move to another spot.[/QUOTE]From the other side of the story, the providers probably think the "scene" has improved. Oh, the irony!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1254114]I was looking at No. 51 (incredible body) when she got called by a Japanese looking customer. They soon both disappeared (ST?).[/QUOTE]I liked her as well, I talked to her once and she asked for 2500 ST. I declined.
I agree on Rainbow 4 selection being good. Partly it is because they have a lot more girls as well though. For example in Rainbow 3 or Shark, you only have 10-15 girls on stage. In Rainbow 4 it's more like 30 girls or more on stage. The same could be said about Baccara. More girls visible = more hotties.
Syzig, you can't be PMed, is that by design?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1254336]Syzig, you can't be PMed, is that by design?[/QUOTE]Yes absolutely Too many silly questions arrive by PM that should be asked of the forum. I don't really see a need for PM. I prefer to keep to myself and the girls
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1254336]I liked her as well, I talked to her once and she asked for 2500 ST. I[/QUOTE]I thought there were more stunners than I ever saw at baccarat. I don't mind paying 2500 for a top 5 girl but need convincing it will be a more than a real quickie. Girls trying to fit in many customers in a short time can be a problem. I don't have that problem with good Cowboy girls.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1254114]I had watched an Issan girl with a great body 048, but she didn't want to look at anybody (seemed distant) and her jaw looked slightly strange due to braces, so ended up taking her friend / sister for short time instead.[/QUOTE]I was there two nights ago, I was watching number 048 she was hot! But she's definitely not into making eye contact, or maybe she just likes better looking guys that me.
[QUOTE=Dorrty;1254368]I was there two nights ago, I was watching number 048 she was hot! But she's definitely not into making eye contact, or maybe she just likes better looking guys that me.[/QUOTE]Thats because she was too busy texting, talking to the other girls, and staring at herself in the mirror.
Thanks for replying. Very true about girls pestering if they are allowed to be approach clients.
While at Baccara my friend motioned to a pretty girl for a drink who were hoping to bar fine. Somehow in the confusion or intentionally on her part, she sent the girl standing next to her. Not our cup of tea anyways. Well we did buy her a drink and were just wodering how to get to rid of her when her "friend" chimed in and asked for a drink as well! Time to hit the exists.
But now I know what to do next time.
Cheers
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1253704]It depends on the bar. Baccara is Japanese style, which means the girls are taught not to bother the clients unless they're called for. Japanese guys don't want girls pestering them, and if you've ever had some unattractive girl sitting right next to you and not leaving, you can understand their logic. So if you want a girl in Baccara, it's often best to ask the waitress. Just ask for her by number, or you can point.
In other places the girls will be more friendly and walk around and come right up to you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1254485]Thats because she was too busy texting, talking to the other girls, and staring at herself in the mirror.[/QUOTE]Me Hi-So Supersta. IOW a WOT LOL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1254114]She performed quite okay but clearly not experienced, and complained I took a long time to come, but really not more than 15 mins of actual screwing. Is that too much? Anyway she was a quite enjoyable fuck, so that is what matters.[/QUOTE]Fifteen minutes is not even the warm up time for me, unless she's already sucked for an hour.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1254114]Decided to try Rainbow 4 again. Their lineup was extremely impressive. I have never seen so many stunners at one time even to Farang taste, not just for Japanese. This was a vast improvement on my previous visit, many months back, even though was past 11PM.[/QUOTE]About 6 months ago the street walkers had a better lineup than Rainbow 4. There was only one girl that caught my eye, who had a stunning face. No doubt a selfish starfish biatch.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254300]Last week in Manila a taxi driver was telling me about those guys. He said they take out loans before they travel. That is how their paper gets to be so long.[/QUOTE]Are taxi drivers now experts on and fluent in everything Japanese? Though at least he got the 333 stuff right.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1254361]I don't mind paying 2500 for a top 5 girl[/QUOTE]Is this ST price becoming more common? Guys, how often are you hearing a girl quote 2. 5k ST?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1254422]Is your heritage from darker continent by any chance? Your skin seems not to be the colour preferred by the types of girls the japanes like.[/QUOTE]I'm a 39 year old Black American. I never get into what type likes what type, or who is better than who. If two people can have fun together and / or tolerate each other then to me that is all that counts. I live in Pattaya. I don't go to bars or gogos unless I'm meeting a friend or ISG member there, so the Japanese/Korean factor does not affect me at all. I stick to non-pros, SWs for ST and disco girls for LT. I have had normal Thai gfs as white as snow and a couple my same color. And I have found that in Thailand, as anywhere else, it doesn't mean a thing. I'm not trying to impress anyone by walking around with someone because of there skin tone. Oh, and I don't much care for skinny girls either! I will be happy when Wednesday comes and I can leave the Philippines and get back over to Thailand where the women have more of a shape and some thickness to them.
I have been a lurker on this board for years and from time to time, the issue of race and / or preference comes up. If a girl refuses me, I simply go to the next one period. As for preferences, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. While some may frown at darker types from Issan, I have met some pretty dark thai with ass. In fact, there's a Facebook group for Asian ladies who are seeking Black males, go figure and they range from dark Issan types to lighter skinned ones
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254551]I stick to non-pros, SWs for ST and disco girls for LT. .[/QUOTE]Aren't SW and freelancers pros?
Well said Mr. E.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1254547]Is this ST price becoming more common? Guys, how often are you hearing a girl quote 2. 5k ST?[/QUOTE]Never.
A price quote of 2. 5K ST means "I don't want to go with you"
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1254617]Never.
A price quote of 2. 5K ST means "I don't want to go with you"[/QUOTE]Or perhaps it means that's the surcharged farang price because you're not Japanese. But if you can convince her you're only 3 inches and will last only 3 minutes, who knows what she might agree to, eh? In LOS such things are negotiable. But for me IMO gogos are a WOT and far better value is to be found elsewhere in BKK. That seems to be the view of most opinions on a few forums I read. Let the Tokyonians have NEP & Cowboy; they deserve each other! Same for Thermae.
Which places have the hottest girls atm for a real good Bangkok special soapy?
In case new travellers to Annie's is serching for the place. This is what it looks like from outside.
If someone is willing to invest right next to Annie's, this might be a good place.
Perhaps a bar for ISG forum members!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1254530]About 6 months ago the street walkers had a better lineup than Rainbow 4. There was only one girl that caught my eye, who had a stunning face. No doubt a selfish starfish biatch.[/QUOTE]Clearly things have changed at Rainbow and many newer girls are exceptionally pretty.
"Pretty" doesn't automatically equal "selfish starfish" but I am concerned if the girls are looking to break records for the most barfines per month.
Anyone can see though tough negotiating with the extremely pretty ones is not going to work well, since there are plenty of cash splashing customers there.
Its unclear to me if this bar is really a good place to hunt at all, or if most stunners will disappoint.
On another topic, last night I saw a magnificent girl in Cowboy's Soi 23 corner bar with burgers. She was the hottest thing (and pretty) I had seen that evening easily. Tall, hair up, big lips, a semi-latin look, curvy all natural, cute nose not flattened or faked, and big natural looking tits (maybe Ds) in a very tight body hugging top. The funny thing, for all those pale-skin lovers, was her skin was really quite dark, not just mid coffee coloured (not a problem to me at all). Probably an Issaan girl (e. G. Buriram, Surin, etc.) but maybe southern was just possible. Reminded me a little of a girl I had the hots for 18 years ago. I was too shy to go after her as she was with two younger guys already. She seemed to enjoy me looking at her though, and her face expressions came accross as confident without being arrogant, not showing any distain or boredom, but more like a classy style with sexual overtones. For me skin colour is not important. I clearly like Issaan girl looks (sometimes). They do have some absolute stunners. I would have paid a lot for a loooong-long time with someone so exceptional. Catching these girls in and available situation is tough though.
I was already with a favourite bar-girl who looked tiny compared to this model.
If anyone knows anything about such a girl, please comment.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1254491]While at Baccara my friend motioned to a pretty girl for a drink who were hoping to bar fine. Somehow in the confusion or intentionally on her part, she sent the girl standing next to her. Not our cup of tea anyways. Well we did buy her a drink and were just wodering how to get to rid of her when her "friend" chimed in and asked for a drink as well![/QUOTE]Sounds like a carefully planned tactic to get business for her boring looking friend and there were two of you. Should have just said, no was a mistake rather than buying her a drink really. My view is never buy a drink for anyone that shows up uninvited.
My bar-girl offers me this Herbal thing called Laet Lotion (meaning wayward or like a Rhino). She says it is supposed to make a guy really strong, as she is concerned that I sometimes take long time to cum. Anyway gave it a try on the privates and it started to tingle after washing off. It stuffed up the sex session completely and had completely the reverse effect. The feeling was so strong it squashed the normal sexual feeling completely, made if difficult to maintain erection once condom was on. Perhaps intended for prolonging guys who come too quick, but my problem is the reverse taking a long time to get there. So definitely only detrimental to me. Then had to wait a long time to go back to normal with herbal effect dissappearing.
just back from a nice bbbjcim with the letter c. she was in red so it was 1000. i chose her because of what was in the lineup. she was the prettiest one there. i was shown 3 white dress and 6 red dress. all of witch were ugly or fat. she earned her tip of 300 for how long she was on her knees. i do like the rooms at bj's over the booths at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. but i think the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] girls are prettier.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1254772]No offense sir. But sounds like the girl is not enjoying your sexual prowess! She wish you were from japan. Hahahahahaha![/QUOTE]You have misunderstood completely. She is actually a horny little thing, likes fucking, and even wants to fuck in strange places like the bathroom. Likes extended DATY too. She was only feeling sorry for me when she could come many times to my single.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1254547]Is this ST price becoming more common? Guys, how often are you hearing a girl quote 2. 5k ST?[/QUOTE]I don't really partake of go-go girls but friends do and some have told me recently of occassional large price requests among some of the cuter girls. One girl in Las Vegas asked for 3, 000 baht. Another in the same bar asked another friend for 4, 000 (both advertised on the poster of the welcome girl downstairs). In Billboard one of the sauna girls asked for 5, 000. In Rainbow 3 #5 asked a friend for 2, 500. As one poster says this may simply mean they don't want to go with you but in all three cases the guys were decent looking fellows in their 50's. I think this may be the wave of the future. Tiered pricing. The better looking girls realize they are a scarcity and so ask for a higher price. And so many of the go-go girls are ghastly these days that I can understand their thinking. Why should I get the same amount as that cow over there.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1255040]I don't really partake of go-go girls but friends do and some have told me recently of occassional large price requests among some of the cuter girls. One girl in Las Vegas asked for 3, 000 baht. Another in the same bar asked another friend for 4, 000 (both advertised on the poster of the welcome girl downstairs). In Billboard one of the sauna girls asked for 5, 000. In Rainbow 3 #5 asked a friend for 2, 500. As one poster says this may simply mean they don't want to go with you but in all three cases the guys were decent looking fellows in their 50's. I think this may be the wave of the future. Tiered pricing. The better looking girls realize they are a scarcity and so ask for a higher price. And so many of the go-go girls are ghastly these days that I can understand their thinking. Why should I get the same amount as that cow over there.[/QUOTE]The better looking girls can make good money just off drinks and tips and the base salary, so some of them don't want a lot of barfines unless it's a high price.
Remember these girls are sharing a small apartment on Ratchada with 2 of their friends, so they can afford to wait for the big dumb farang with his wallet falling out of his pants who will end up buying her a condo.
I met a very cute Las Vegas girl yesterday afternoon and paid her 1, 500. Made me pay an extra 600 for barfine though, despite it being 4PM.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1254739]My bar-girl offers me this Herbal thing called Laet Lotion (meaning wayward or like a Rhino). She says it is supposed to make a guy really strong, as she is concerned that I sometimes take long time to cum. Anyway gave it a try on the privates and it started to tingle after washing off. It stuffed up the sex session completely and had completely the reverse effect. The feeling was so strong it squashed the normal sexual feeling completely, made if difficult to maintain erection once condom was on. Perhaps intended for prolonging guys who come too quick, but my problem is the reverse taking a long time to get there. So definitely only detrimental to me. Then had to wait a long time to go back to normal with herbal effect dissappearing.[/QUOTE]Taking time to cum is not a problem. Its something most of us want to achieve! Interesting read.
Made another visit to angel. Wanted to get rina again, but she was busy. It was more towards the evening so I guess it was peak time. Only a very few to choose from and there were many guys sitting and waiting for their frequant providers to be free. Took a girl but her services were not good. Very mechanical. Dissapointed experience.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1254617]A price quote of 2. 5K ST means "I don't want to go with you"[/QUOTE]That is quite possible, I have to say say I didn't handle 51 very well, I was with a friend and distracted. It's possible she quoted that price to just get out of the situation and find a customer who would be quicker to ggo. It's the first time I've ever been quoted above 2000 ST.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1255052]The better looking girls can make good money just off drinks and tips and the base salary[/QUOTE]Not true as I've said before. Just sit in a Rainbow for 2 hours and count the number of drinks the hot girls get. It really isn't that much.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254551]I will be happy when Wednesday comes and I can leave the Philippines and get back over to Thailand where the women have more of a shape and some thickness to them.[/QUOTE]I thought Filipinos were thicker?
[QUOTE=Margaya;1254491]Somehow in the confusion or intentionally on her part, she sent the girl standing next to her. Not our cup of tea anyways. Well we did buy her a drink and were just wodering how to get to rid of her[/QUOTE]Smile and explain the misunderstanding next time. Don't buy drinks for a girl you don't want.
[QUOTE=Chrismonger3;1255082]Made another visit to angel. Wanted to get rina again, but she was busy. It was more towards the evening so I guess it was peak time. Only a very few to choose from and there were many guys sitting and waiting for their frequant providers to be free. Took a girl but her services were not good. Very mechanical. Dissapointed experience.[/QUOTE]I had rina before and didn't enjoy her. Way rougher looking than her photo. Tits are her only asset.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1255139]I thought Filipinos were thicker?[/QUOTE]Philipinos? Perhaps, but I think he was discussing Philipinas.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1255165]Philipinos? Perhaps, but I think he was discussing Philipinas.[/QUOTE]Spelling. Its either Filipinos or Filipinas
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1255256]Spelling. Its either Filipinos or Filipinas[/QUOTE]Its not a best spelling competition. I make typos frequently.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1255139]That is quite possible, I have to say say I didn't handle 51 very well, I was with a friend and distracted. It's possible she quoted that price to just get out of the situation and find a customer who would be quicker to ggo. It's the first time I've ever been quoted above 2000 ST.
Not true as I've said before. Just sit in a Rainbow for 2 hours and count the number of drinks the hot girls get. It really isn't that much.
Smile and explain the misunderstanding next time. Don't buy drinks for a girl you don't want.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you say here. Strangely in Cowboy, girls rarely quote me a price at all. They just assume I will be fair. I really like this, as I can pay based on how the girl performed for me. I would pay bare minimum for a crap performance, and more for a fantastic longer time. However I can imagine super hot girls wanting to make sure they will get a good reward for their time. There is a certain element in some bars where girls are aiming to be top superstar in the bar or top 3, top 10 etc. They hope to make more money per month than most girls in the bar, partly from high number of STs and partly from maximum Baht per ST. These goals are not compatible with guys who think it is same price for same service from every girl, regardless of her looks.
For me I can understand that an iphone costs more than a Hitachi because it seems sexier. I believe that bargain basement prices can be got from bargain basement looks on girls who have not much business. Girls that go several times per night are going to be less in a bargaining mood, as they are plenty of Japanese with lots of money who have a reputation of being quick too. I feel that to compete, I need the girl to really like me first, otherwise she might choose a Japanese guy in preference.
I believe that the real stunners have plenty of ability to pick and choose which customer they want from multiple guys interested. Its bad luck for us, but we have to get used to some knock backs, for one reason or another.
The most stunning girl in Rainbow 4 was with a handsome young Farang and spending a lot of time with him. So I guess she liked him a lot, or he was spending big money, or both. She wasn't concerned about fast turnover at the time.
Oilies and Soapies are where prices are set and knockbacks very rare.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1255256]Spelling. Its either Filipinos or Filipinas[/QUOTE]Yeah, but if you want to talk about girls (females) , it's Filipinas.
I totally agree that most of the girls don't look as good as the photo's. But with photoshop available, that is to be expected. Rina was better for me than the other one. And yes, tits were good. Who are the others who have natural big breast at this place?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1255154]I had rina before and didn't enjoy her. Way rougher looking than her photo. Tits are her only asset.[/QUOTE]
Had a fairly decent oil massage at Maurray garden hotel spa. Only HJ was offered but did it with alot of oil. Feeling the balls etc. For a massage it was good. But not much else compared to what you can get in Bangkok.
Which hotels are known to have decent massage / soapy in their basements. And what are the cost? I know they exist and was taken to one by a taxi guy on my last visit but I can't remember where. If I can find it on my own, I will save the taxi commission.
So any help would be appreciated.
As a frequent visitor to Billboard the juvenile section (Sauna girls) get 2, 000 bt for just 30 minutes sitting outside with a customer in Billboard. They get dressed up and will sit with you for 2k and drinks. I am quite close to a few servers and started asking questions on the Sauna girls (I use the term juvenile section for some of them are under 18). So getting 5k, though ridiculous to me, happens.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1255040]Snipped . In Billboard one of the sauna girls asked for 5, 000. Snipped[/QUOTE]
Yes some are teen. 16 years, don't go with any costomer, they asked me 2000 st. Thats after the specific girl.
Looked at me carfully. They have fake ID.
Landed at airport around 5:15 in evening. Straight went to visa on arrival section, there was long Q so decided to pay 200 bhat extra and use express service. Got the visa in 5 min and headed for train station.
The express train take 17 min to reach paya thai but the frequency is 40 min and the ticket cost 180 bhat. I reached there at 6:00 and the guy at the ticket counter told me that next train is at 6:30 that's mean I will be reaching paya thai at 6:47, so instead to waiting for 30 min I decided to take slow train. I was surprised to know that the slow train cost only 45 bhat. Boarded the train at 6:05 and at 6:30 I was at paya thai. I saved 135 bhat and 17 min of time. From paya thai took the another train to nana which coast me 25 bhat and another 15 min. So total coast was 70 bhat and time taken to reach destination in peak hour was 45 min. If I would have taken I taxi it would have taken more then 1 hour due to peak hour traffic and around 400 bhat.
I will recommend you guys take a slow train if you traveling light and solo or in small group so that you can same save money.
[QUOTE=Chrismonger3;1255488]Which hotels are known to have decent massage / soapy in their basements. And what are the cost? I know they exist and was taken to one by a taxi guy on my last visit but I can't remember where. If I can find it on my own, I will save the taxi commission.[/QUOTE]I think Nana Hotel (close to NEP) has an in-house massage shop. I did not partake of it though and stayed only one day in Nana Hotel, which was not at all to my liking.
But actually, why limit yourself to the in-house massage shop or only take a hotel with a massage shop? Most --if not almost all-- hotels in the Sukhumvit area will not bat an eye if you take someone with you and then you have the choice of all ladies from all massage shops. With a bit of negotiations they will come to your hotel room for a few hours and give you a private massage+!
The Teenies DO go out with a customer to the short time joint within Nana. They do not, as you say (from what the servers tell me) , go out to a customers hotel. Not my thing. Got to be over 20 for me.
[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1255599]Yes some are teen. 16 years, don't go with any costomer, they asked me 2000 st. Thats after the specific girl.
Looked at me carfully. They have fake I'd.[/QUOTE]
What's the deal with 16 year olds working there? Is that legal under Thai law?
The teens got all the attraction and they dance in a pool. The left side of the bar has older girls dancing in a pool.
I was there a few days ago with a senior monger. We asked the mama san, and she told us that it possible to.
Take the girl to hotel but she was not sure that all hotel wil acept the teens.
Now let me tell you that the working girls in Thailand do not worth a shit this days. This is why ladyboys all over.
The place. The reason is simple, Thailand aconomy is good, good looking girls can get decent jobs so.
Only the uglies and the older woman still around.
In order to be inovative and to gain market share, club owners forces to take riskes by bringing, outstanding.
Prettey girls with exceptionally good looking with super smooth white skinn. I was so amaized that could not belive my eyes, this a serius crime this days.
All mongers was watering including me but the teens are available only to costomers they personally likes. I am in ko chang now coming from Pattaya, both places are fry, full of uglies. Tomorrow I will come to Bangkok.
My plans? Well you can guess, but soon this phenomenon will gone away.
[quote=chill out;1255713]what's the deal with 16 year olds working there? is that legal under thai law?[/quote]in general, jackson bans the promotion of this sort of thing. its also not legal. in the days before thaksin came to power, it was quite normal to have **** and non thai girls working, e. g. from burma. when thaksin came in, these things were stamped out to some extent and girls were required to have official papers. also places started to be forced to close earlier. these days things have relaxed again, and many illegal things going on, including heavy drug usage by bar-girls.
i don't like to take girls too young, nor girls obviously on substances. generally girls 25 and up perform better for me although there are some younger girls 20-21 who already seem very experienced.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1255649]I think Nana Hotel (close to NEP) has an in-house massage shop. I did not partake of it though and stayed only one day in Nana Hotel, which was not at all to my liking.
But actually, why limit yourself to the in-house massage shop or only take a hotel with a massage shop? Most.if not almost all- hotels in the Sukhumvit area will not bat an eye if you take someone with you and then you have the choice of all ladies from all massage shops. With a bit of negotiations they will come to your hotel room for a few hours and give you a private massage+![/QUOTE]The MP at Nana does not offer (as reported here) nothing more than HE / HJ.If you take their "intimate" shaving option, and that is performed only around your little brother, the not young lady (but a nice level of MILF) will not do anything more than an accurate shaving of the whole area.
It was reported here that for the HJ you need to hire one of the younger girls (but I am not so sure I would surrender my little brother and surroundings to her razor skills.)
You are right in mentioning "why limit yourself". Most likely he can be a bit shy or newby and prefers the comfort of not going out hunting.
So your option of an out-call from a MP is wise and effective.
Below legal age is a touchy subject in all senses: legally and morally (I rate mongerers do have a moral too.)
Whatever is the opinion and approach of anybody, the ISG forum rules cut the story short. Girls below legal age should not be a matter of discussion in ISG.
I believe this can help somebody not familiar to ISG rules to undestand it is a "no-no" to debate on that age group.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1255713]What's the deal with 16 year olds working there? Is that legal under Thai law?[/QUOTE]They sneak. Sometimes the bar is aware of it and sometimes not. I know a couple of girls who started working at bars when they were 15. I know the legal age for them to go to a disco is 20. I'm not sure of the age to work at a bar, gogo, or disco.
[quote=mr enternational;1255781]they sneak. sometimes the bar is aware of it and sometimes not. i know a couple of girls who started working at bars when they were 15. i know the legal age for them to go to a disco is 20. i'm not sure of the age to work at a bar, gogo, or disco.[/quote]i believe 15 is the age the girls have to be to work in the bar. they can work as servers, cleaners, food handlers etc. there is a blurred line if she will be a dancer. thai bar owners do not obey any laws. so the girls officially maybe hired as cleaners but dance if the owner says so. i am sure it is illegal to barfine them but for a local thai guy it is immaterial. but i have a feeling foreigners whether they admit or not have had sex with **** girls worldwide. actually very few are caught usually as a dispute with money. most of the developing world age is not a barrier for anything. till recently cambodia was one place where all ****s went. but now it seems to have gone underground.
[quote=bionicman; 1255756]the isg forum rules cut the story short. girls below legal age should not be a matter of discussion in isg.
i believe this can help somebody not familiar to isg rules to undestand it is a "no-no" to debate on that age group.[/quote]it's still useful to know of the places to avoid. i didn't know some places had **** girls in nana. i won't be going to those.
[quote=chill out;1255825]it's still useful to know of the places to avoid. i didn't know some places had **** girls in nana. i won't be going to those.[/quote]i do agree the warnings are useful and important, but probably the debate is off the rules.
Nana is my favourite in Bangkok. For some reason, much prefer it to Soi Cowboy, like the layout of the joint, and most places have great quality when it comes to girls. Angelwitch is my favourite venue by far. Cheers for the updates and reviews.
Nataree is a place to avoid for the reasons mentioned.
Won't go into detail as that may be against the rules.
[quote=chill out;1255825]it's still useful to know of the places to avoid. i didn't know some places had **** girls in nana. i won't be going to those.[/quote]by naming places to avoid, we could be considered to be unintentionally promoting them, but i get away with subtle comments at times. anyway no doubt some of your favourite bars will have some suspect girls. so just choose wisely and check the id if not sure. i am well known enough that staff will tell me which ones are not okay.
there is a rumour that japanese customers like girls to seem like students, or nurses, etc. part of the fantasy process. i am simple. i just like nude girls with great curves.
right now there is a news story about soldiers in the south being prosecuted for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] even though the girl may have been willing, simply because she was under-age (not to mention the wrong religion). they collected their own evidence against themselves with a camera. now that must be considered a bit dumb. nomination for the darwin awards.
i just noticed the forum has paragraphs again. a wonderful thing, however the spelling mis-correcter is still annoying. :d
[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1255725]Now let me tell you that the working girls in Thailand do not worth a shit this days. This is why ladyboys all over.
The place. The reason is simple, Thailand aconomy is good, good looking girls can get decent jobs so.[/QUOTE]
I think that is one of the reasons certainly. Though it is clearly difficult to measure in any methodical provable way, but most guys, including myself that I talk to who have been coming to Thailand for over ten years feel there has been a real very obvious decline in the quaility of working women in Thailand. In fact, I'd posit that the working women are some of the least attractive women in Thailand with their hard faces, tattoos and increasingly man-made breasts and noses. Go to Terminal 21 or Siam and you will see more good looking girls in an hour than you will see in days of trolling through the go-go bars. I am honestly shocked at times at the low quaility on stage in go-gos these days.
I think the improvement in the economy is the main reason and that can be seen primarily in the lack of geographical diversification of the girls available. When I first hit Bangkok in the early 90's, it was as likely for a girl to tell me she was from Chiang Mai or Bangkok as to tell me Issan. Now I am taken aback if a girl is not from Issan. When Issan starts getting wealthier as it is doing, we will really be getting the riff-raff.
Another factor is that the birth rate in Thailand like nearly everywhere else is dramatically declining thus providing a smaller pool of women.
Also, Globalization has effected the supply of Thai girls on two fronts. Back in the 90's nearly all the sex toruists were from Western countries or Japan. Now a huge pct are from the BRIC countries and from eastern Europe. With so many more lonely sexually frustrated guys coming to Thailand it only makes sense that more and more girls, esp. the good looking ones, are being either sponsored or are marrying thus taking them out of the market. Another aspect of Globalization is that many of these girls have figured out that they can make a lot more money outside of Thailand than here. Nearly every girl I know who has been around for a few years has had a stint in Singapore, Hong Kong or in Europe. Was talking with a girl 2 days ago who works primarily out of Switzerland. She charges guys the equivalent of 3, 200 baht for 20 minutes. Doing guys here for 1500 or 2000 baht for as long as they take just seems silly to her.
A lot of girls are now Escort girls charging 5000 baht for short time. There are hundreds of them doing this. So ya, they are still in the market but aimed at a business clientele who don't know better.
I think some of these factors have effected the freelance girls more than the go-go girls but both are in decline. Finding an attractive freelancer these days is a Herculean task and please don't tell me about the great looking girls at Nana Parking Lot, Gullivers or at the Beergarden. They reek of decay. And when I go looking in go-gos I am amazed at how average to ugly most of the girls are with most go-gos having at most a few decent looking ones. And as we have read here recently, most of those are of an age that it is best to avoid.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1256353]I think the improvement in the economy is the main reason and that can be seen primarily in the lack of geographical diversification of the girls available. When I first hit Bangkok in the early 90's, it was as likely for a girl to tell me she was from Chiang Mai or Bangkok as to tell me Issan. Now I am taken aback if a girl is not from Issan. When Issan starts getting wealthier as it is doing, we will really be getting the riff-raff.[/QUOTE]You made a lot of very good points and I had to agree with nearly everything. However poor girls with poor education don't only come from Issaan. I have met northern girls in Baccara for example and have a favourite pale skinned Soapy girl from Chiang Rai. Very rare to meet Southern girls in bars, MPs etc. These days. 20 years ago there were a lot more southern girls. I knew a few of them at Thermae Soapy back then.
The overall standard of bar girls does seem to be dropping, however as I get older, I also get harder to please. For newbies, just about anything young will do. Walking outside in an ordinary street, I would say that only 1 in 10 girls are good looking or pretty and not even 1 in a hundred are stunning. Places like Terminal 21, Emporium, the averages of course are very distorted. However pretty girls working there still don't make a lot of money. So sex business can be tempting, specially for girls are horny.
Freelance bar-girls have it good as can turn up to work when feel like it, and only go with guys they like. If get bar-fined by someone undesirable, they can claim its their period, and no fucking. My current favourite bar-girl works like this. She recently knocked back a customer wanting to take her OS for a few days. Probably wanted to relax or do other things. She studies part time, to prepare for her non-WG future. Superior lokking bar-girls can do this and still get customers when they want to.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1256353]And when I go looking in go-gos I am amazed at how average to ugly most of the girls are with most go-gos having at most a few decent looking ones. And as we have read here recently, most of those are of an age that it is best to avoid.[/QUOTE]Not most, apparently just some in some specific places. I've never seen an under-aged looking girl so far.
How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1256366]Freelance bar-girls have it good as can turn up to work when feel like it, and only go with guys they like. If get bar-fined by someone undesirable, they can claim its their period, and no fucking. My current favourite bar-girl works like this. She recently knocked back a customer wanting to take her OS for a few days. Probably wanted to relax or do other things. She studies part time, to prepare for her non-WG future. Superior lokking bar-girls can do this and still get customers when they want to.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what my girlfriend is doing. Sometimes I actually get envious of her lifestyle. I've never seen anyone work so little and make so much. She works 2-3 night a week from 6 to 12. Every 2 or 3 weeks she takes a couple of weeks off. Her days are spent shopping and eating out with her girlfriends. Once in a while she is flown out by a client and makes a bundle for a weekend in a 5 star hotel in Singapore or wherever. Talk to her about doing something else and she looks at you like you are crazy.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall? QUOTE]
Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.
If you can get into one of the higher end Japanese oriented bars you'll still see this; they are full of beauties. The real deal is that the Thai's are keeping the best for themselves now days, and there are a lot more venues now so the available talent is spread more thinly on the ground.
The upcountry and Thai only places are packed with gorgeous, sweet lovelies. They move the girls into the farang venues if or when they aren't profitable in their own places. If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1256409]
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall? QUOTE]
Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.
If you can get into one of the higher end Japanese oriented bars you'll still see this; they are full of beauties. The real deal is that the Thai's are keeping the best for themselves now days, and there are a lot more venues now so the available talent is spread more thinly on the ground.
The upcountry and Thai only places are packed with gorgeous, sweet lovelies. They move the girls into the farang venues if or when they aren't profitable in their own places. If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.[/QUOTE]Ya, that is another factor in far fewer beauties in the Farang world. As Thai wealth has grown, they have opened up all these G Clubs and so on where I hear the girls are Grade A.
No doubt one's memory can play tricks as it fades over 20 years and likely one recalls the better looking girls. But I certainly don't remember going into go-gos back then as I do now and being recoiled by some of the overweight girls I see on stage. Even the supposed best go-gos like the Rainbow bars have a fair share of real plug uglies. I don't get the owner's thinking on this, is it just a game of numbers? I'd rather go into a bar with all quality girls even if fewer in numbers. Seeing some of these girls just make me turn around and leave. And I've noticed that many of the go-gos seem to have segmented the girls by looks so that they have the A team, B team and perhaps C Team. And if you get stuck having to look at the C team for 10 minutes every ounce of your sex drive that you may have come in with has been viscerated like a dead sliced fish.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]Not most, apparently just some in some specific places. I've never seen an under-aged looking girl so far.
How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall?[/QUOTE]I surprised you haven't seen excessively young looking girls. Plenty of Cowboy bars have them. Not sure if Baccara allows it though.
There weren't wall to wall stunners 20 years ago, but coming from my home country where girls were not very impressive and my expectations not high, Thai girls could look real cute easily. After seeing Scandinavian gils, French girls, etc, I view Thai girls with a different more critical eye now.
The very pretty girls usually get yanked out of the bar before too long, even if their character has been spoiled somewhat. "You can take the girl out of the bar, but it's difficult to take the bar out of the girl". Bargirls are can be okay as casual part time GFs, but many don't know how to behave as though they didn't come from the bar, acting a bit too wayward. MP girls seem to have a higher standard of behaviour once they are outside the work-place, and better GF prospects generally.
[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1256418]
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1256409]No doubt one's memory can play tricks as it fades over 20 years and likely one recalls the better looking girls. But I certainly don't remember going into go-gos back then as I do now and being recoiled by some of the overweight girls I see on stage.[/QUOTE]I think the standard was higher back then but your memory does seem to be playing some tricks. I remember thinking back then how come the bars the ugly ones too. Simple answer. To make up the numbers and pressure in order to keep the good lookers, they needed to take their ordinary friends too. Some bars had special standards though, like no real fatties, no silicone tits, etc.
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1256409][QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall?[/QUOTE]Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.
If you can get into one of the higher end Japanese oriented bars you'll still see this; they are full of beauties. The real deal is that the Thai's are keeping the best for themselves now days, and there are a lot more venues now so the available talent is spread more thinly on the ground.
The upcountry and Thai only places are packed with gorgeous, sweet lovelies. They move the girls into the farang venues if or when they aren't profitable in their own places. If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.[/QUOTE]No doubt globalization, the internet, and the age of low cost jet travel. Beauty is a commodity, and an ultra hot girl today no matter where she lives on the planet generally (excepting some extreme locales) knows her commodity value. Now she may be deferring that value, but she usually understands it. I haven't been to Rangoon in Myamar, but that's an impoverished country but noted for very beautiful women of hybrid asian and european backgrounds, controlled by a military elite, yet the traveling club to club nightclub "fashion shows" (due to various restrictions forced to act as lineups for pros) you will note the girls there, based upon you tube postings at least, tend to be somewhat average. Now you would think it might be like Thailand 20 years back, but globalization has changed that, even though most are restricted to not traveling.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1256090]Nataree is a place to avoid for the reasons mentioned.[/QUOTE]Why avoid Nataree?
[QUOTE=Naughty;1256409]Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.[/QUOTE]I don't believe this at all.
If anything, I suspect they were a bit rougher looking.
[QUOTE=Naughty;1256409]If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.[/QUOTE]I'll keep that in mind!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1256420]I surprised you haven't seen excessively young looking girls. Plenty of Cowboy bars have them. Not sure if Baccara allows it though.[/QUOTE]I've seen girls where I would be like: 'she looks kind of young, maybe 18-19. '
But never: 'holy shit is she 14? WTF? '
But I've been in Asia for a long while so maybe I'm better at estimating age. Schoolgirl uniforms etc don't fool me.
I just finished a week in Pattaya and I posted many reports & pictures. I am now in BKK entertaining friends. Tonight we went to Spanky's, Angelwitch, & Carnival for their spanking, great shows, & mechanical bull respectively. I am not as familiar with BBK bars as I am with the Pattaya scene.
At Windmill in Pattaya, customers may participate in fisting a girl's pussy & ass, watch darts being shot from a girl's pussy, & fuck a girl with a banana. Respectfully, will anyone please tell me which bars in Soi Cowboy, Nana, or Patpong have the raunchy shows like Windmill in Pattaya and when is the best time to go?
Please don't RTFF me as I have paid forward with many posts about what I did in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1256476]I don't believe this at all.
If anything, I suspect they were a bit rougher looking.[/QUOTE]I'll vouch for Gentleboner's statement. My mongering days in Thailand were in the 80s and early 90s. Boy were the girls great then. You were always spoilt for choice. Yes, there were ugly ones too, perhaps 2-3 per bar? I guess it's the opposite now.
Now that all the hot girl in Thailand are taken, where should one go to? Indonesia? Cambodia? Philippines? Africa?
[quote=tony hoeprano;1256556]now that all the hot girl in thailand are taken, where should one go to? indonesia? cambodia? philippines? africa?[/quote]hehe, good i made one my own then before supplies ran out.
end of april i will take a trip to laos with my thai tirac. there will be no need to sample the local fauna, but i will keep my eyes peeled and report.
[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1256525]At Windmill in Pattaya, customers may participate in fisting a girl's pussy & ass, watch darts being shot from a girl's pussy, & fuck a girl with a banana. Respectfully, will anyone please tell me which bars in Soi Cowboy, Nana, or Patpong have the raunchy shows like Windmill in Pattaya and when is the best time to go?[/QUOTE]Long Gun in Soi Cowboy (early right hand side when coming from Asoke) has some raunchy "pussy" shows, but I did not see any visitor interaction. In Suzie Wong (halfway on the right hand side when coming from Asoke) I once licked (briefly) a dancer's pussy on stage, but that was already exceptional. Last I was in Suzie Wong they started to have some "pussy" shows but still pretty tame: puling strings of flowers or ribbons from their pussies, nothing more wild. They do have some girl-on-girl action on stage.
Don't go to Patpong. It is for clueless tourists only. Much is promised by the touts on the street, few is delivered upstairs in the grimy clubs. The only thing they are good in is inflating your bin and emptying your wallet.
Bangkok isn't Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1256439]Why avoid Nataree?[/QUOTE]As mentioned, because they aren't quite legal regarding the topic at hand.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1256366]If get bar-fined by someone undesirable, they can claim its their period, and no fucking. My current favourite bar-girl works like this.[/QUOTE]The way I work is if I don't want to see a P4P TG regular who's been hounding me with 30 calls & 10 text messages before I even wake up & check my phone, I can tell her:
1) Sorry, today I go crocodile farm, golfing & sick buffalo hospital.
2) Little brother tired, not feeling well, tell me he want to see doctor.
3) Me broke. Chalkwow today, save money.
Then, of course, I call up another of my regulars to tap that fresh young shrimp.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1256353]I think some of these factors have effected the freelance girls more than the go-go girls but both are in decline. Finding an attractive freelancer these days is a Herculean task and please don't tell me about the great looking girls at Nana Parking Lot, Gullivers or at the Beergarden. They reek of decay. And when I go looking in go-gos I am amazed at how average to ugly most of the girls are with most go-gos having at most a few decent looking ones. And as we have read here recently, most of those are of an age that it is best to avoid.[/QUOTE]For years here I've read many disparaging comments like yours about the Nana Car Park (NCP) & have responded accordingly. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, most of the pics in the photo thread, even those that claim to be attractive, hot or stunners, I wouldn't go with if they paid me.
That being said, however, I haven't seen a decline in quality in the Nana Car Park since 2007. The price is generally the same, namely 1000 Baht ST. The looks are still there. The service is, if anything, better. Overall my experience certainly is. Last year I was amazed at the bodies of some of those I picked up. This year I haven't got out a lot, as I have my regulars I call but, from my observations, the numbers seem to be down for the evening workers, but up for the daytime. Some girls are also working the street nearby. Or indoors at bars & places like the Beergarden on soi 7. These changes are, I think, at least in part to avoid the LE raids to fine them (pocket) 1000 baht a head. As usual there is always the fresh meat; the new kids in town, from Bumfuck Isaarn. Last year, before the floods, when I paid a couple visits to Rainbow 4 in NEP, the lineup on the streets was better IMO. Also, of course, much cheaper, & probably better service & attitude as well.
[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1256353]I think that is one of the reasons certainly. Though it is clearly difficult to measure in any methodical provable way, but most guys, including myself that I talk to who have been coming to Thailand for over ten years feel there has been a real very obvious decline in the quaility of working women in Thailand. In fact, I'd posit that the working women are some of the least attractive women in Thailand with their hard faces, tattoos and increasingly man-made breasts and noses. Go to Terminal 21 or Siam and you will see more good looking girls in an hour than you will see in days of trolling through the go-go bars. I am honestly shocked at times at the low quaility on stage in go-gos these days.
I think the improvement in the economy is the main reason and that can be seen primarily in the lack of geographical diversification of the girls available. When I first hit Bangkok in the early 90's, it was as likely for a girl to tell me she was from Chiang Mai or Bangkok as to tell me Issan. Now I am taken aback if a girl is not from Issan. When Issan starts getting wealthier as it is doing, we will really be getting the riff-raff.
Another factor is that the birth rate in Thailand like nearly everywhere else is dramatically declining thus providing a smaller pool of women.
Also, Globalization has effected the supply of Thai girls on two fronts. Back in the 90's nearly all the sex toruists were from Western countries or Japan. Now a huge pct are from the BRIC countries and from eastern Europe. With so many more lonely sexually frustrated guys coming to Thailand it only makes sense that more and more girls, esp. The good looking ones, are being either sponsored or are marrying thus taking them out of the market. Another aspect of Globalization is that many of these girls have figured out that they can make a lot more money outside of Thailand than here. Nearly every girl I know who has been around for a few years has had a stint in Singapore, Hong Kong or in Europe. Was talking with a girl 2 days ago who works primarily out of Switzerland. She charges guys the equivalent of 3, 200 baht for 20 minutes. Doing guys here for 1500 or 2000 baht for as long as they take just seems silly to her.
A lot of girls are now Escort girls charging 5000 baht for short time. There are hundreds of them doing this. So ya, they are still in the market but aimed at a business clientele who don't know better.
I think some of these factors have effected the freelance girls more than the go-go girls but both are in decline. Finding an attractive freelancer these days is a Herculean task and please don't tell me about the great looking girls at Nana Parking Lot, Gullivers or at the Beergarden. They reek of decay. And when I go looking in go-gos I am amazed at how average to ugly most of the girls are with most go-gos having at most a few decent looking ones. And as we have read here recently, most of those are of an age that it is best to avoid.[/QUOTE]Agree with all that you state in your post. As a 12 year resident, I can say that the talent level in the Sukhumvit area has been on a decline for a few years. Now that decline is geometric. Much has to do with the low unemployment rate and the rising wages in Thailand. Globalization, the internet, and the increasing horror of women from fully developed countries. It is no longer an inexpensive scene and will never be again. Great looking women know their value! Pandora's box is open.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1256511]But I've been in Asia for a long while so maybe I'm better at estimating age. Schoolgirl uniforms etc don't fool me.[/QUOTE]The bar staff tell me the true ages when I ask, because know me for years. I don't have to rely on estimation.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1256556]Now that all the hot girl in Thailand are taken, where should one go to? Indonesia? Cambodia? Philippines? Africa?[/QUOTE]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive, the girls are ugly, they are all from Issan, Nana plaza is a dump, too many lady boys, Go go's are a rip off, too many Indians selling fake watches, Thermae closed its doors and reopened in Japan, the Japanese and myself pay too much to the girls driving prices up, and oh I can't forget the flood that will come every year! Why do you all come here to visit and live if you complain so much?
Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. There was a special show with five girls downstairs who all got completely naked on stage, normally only topless upstairs. A fair skinned beauty with long black hair caught my eye. Beautiful pussy and nice 36 see breasts. After her show I quickly moved to intercept her as she was going back upstairs to change her clothes. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on. Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1256409]
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall? [/QUOTE]
Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.
If you can get into one of the higher end Japanese oriented bars you'll still see this; they are full of beauties. The real deal is that the Thai's are keeping the best for themselves now days, and there are a lot more venues now so the available talent is spread more thinly on the ground.
The upcountry and Thai only places are packed with gorgeous, sweet lovelies. They move the girls into the farang venues if or when they aren't profitable in their own places. If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.[/QUOTE]
Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.
From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.
My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?
Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.
[QUOTE=Model Chaser; 1256788]Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.
From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.
My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?
Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.[/QUOTE]This comports with everything I've heard from my friends who have been in (or going to) Thailand since the 80's. Of course the legend of greener pastures sounds good and all, but it really makes zero sense. And as anyone who has been there in the last decade can attest, there's still plenty of hotties. This sounds like of like the (stupid) price myth in disguise, to me; regardless, it's not in the least bit useful information.
For hotties, go. Well, anywhere. You'll find hot Thai girls abundantly in Bangkok. The three red light districts, late night outside Nana, late night discos, earlier clubs -- they are everywhere.
Perhaps there were indeed better times (not unbelievable) , but it really isn't bad in Bangkok (or Thailand) at all now. In fact, it's great. Anyone who says otherwise has ulterior motives, or is just too spoiled or too cheap (or both) to enjoy it.
-B-
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on.[/QUOTE]Great report. So much for go-go beauties supposedly being terrible and overpriced experiences as we keep hearing here all the time. LOL
Now that's what we call a true GFE! Looks like you both really hit it off. Good on you mate! Who says you can't find chemistry in a GoGo bar pickup?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1256826]Now that's what we call a true GFE! Looks like you both really hit it off. Good on you mate! Who says you can't find chemistry in a GoGo bar pickup?[/QUOTE]For 4000 baht you should be able to find whatever you want.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive,[/QUOTE]Taxi Meter Rates Set to Increase in Mid-April.
BANGKOK:. The Transport Ministry has approved an increase in taxi meter rates planned to go into effect on April 16.
Phum Palang Taxi Cooperative manager, Kasemsan Chompoodaeng, said the Land Transport Department under the Transport Ministry approved the meter rate increase. However, he said the ministry has not yet concluded what form the price increase will take.
The Land Transport Department will discuss with the Energy Ministry, the PTT and taxi operators. All details will be finalized by April 16, which is the date that the new fares will begin.
As of now, four forms of fare hikes have been proposed. Firstly, the startling price of a cab will be maintained at 35 baht, while meter rates per mile will increase. Conversely, an alternative proposal is to increase the starting price to 40, 45 or 50 baht.
Kasemsan stated that taxi operators have been minimally affected by the energy price hike since the PTT has shouldered most of the burden on the Natural Gas for Vehicles, or NGV, at two baht a liter from January 16 through April 16.
After that, the taxi operators will be facing a gas price hike, so they will be forced to raise taxi fares. Moreover, the Transport Ministry will improve the standard of taxi services.
As of now, there are around 100, 000 cabs, and only 80, 000 of them has registered with the Ministry. The Ministry will set a limit on the number of cabs so that taxis do not outnumber passengers.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/540130-thai-taxi-meter-rates-set-to-increase-in-mid-april/[/url]
Tired of bath place I don't like bath because not clean.
Can someone reccomend some quick but good quality service?
If you have good contact please pm me thanks
[QUOTE=Model Chaser; 1256788]Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.
From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.
My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?
Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.[/QUOTE]Lest you forget, even 6-7 years ago the girls had no concept of g-strings or even remotely sexy underwear. You'd pull a stunner, take her home, and she'd be wearing the goofiest set of undergarments you'd ever laid eyes on. The concept of fashion in Bangkok, both under and out, in recent years has really been a joy to behold.
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1256716]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive, the girls are ugly, they are all from Issan, Nana plaza is a dump, too many lady boys, Go go's are a rip off, too many Indians selling fake watches, Thermae closed its doors and reopened in Japan, the Japanese and myself pay too much to the girls driving prices up, and oh I can't forget the flood that will come every year! Why do you all come here to visit and live if you complain so much?
Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. There was a special show with five girls downstairs who all got completely naked on stage, normally only topless upstairs. A fair skinned beauty with long black hair caught my eye. Beautiful pussy and nice 36 see breasts. After her show I quickly moved to intercept her as she was going back upstairs to change her clothes. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on. Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]At 4000 plus the 700 baht barfine, plus the 2 drinks at 150 or whatever baht, plus throw in hotels and travel fees to get to Bangkok, I imagine that is what a couple of first class escorts overseas might run one for an hour. Then again, if a $200 dinner is that tasty to the diner, well, it must have been worth every penny!
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1256804]Great report. So much for go-go beauties supposedly being terrible and overpriced experiences as we keep hearing here all the time. LOL[/QUOTE]Well I couldn't agree more. Hopefully the story was all true, but I treat all reports as stories that may be true. Bar girls can certainly perform when they want to and especially if they are in the mood. Some of the truly great girls are probably also capable of being terrible when the chemistry wasn't there.
I find if I pick girls that firstly dance well above average, have good looks and body, make good joke around conversation, and a little bit boisterous (but not too much) , then they usually turn out to be girls that like good sex a lot. There are plenty of orgasmic Thai bar-girls, and a percentage of duds. I find I have not chosen many duds in the last 2 years. Experience allows to make better choices. Some girls improve a lot with subsequent bookings, others go down hill.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1257031]Well I couldn't agree more. Hopefully the story was all true, but I treat all reports as stories that may be true. Bar girls can certainly perform when they want to and especially if they are in the mood. Some of the truly great girls are probably also capable of being terrible when the chemistry wasn't there.[/QUOTE]You find many guys talk about an oily girl, a gogo girl, a bar girl, etc. and the differences. But what about a girl who regularly crosses over from one venue to another? I don't think it is so safe to generalize. Last night I was in a disco in Pattaya and saw a girl that I liked. I waved her over to my table but she insisted that I come to the table with her and her two friends. She told me that she would go with me but she was on her period so she would only be able to do BJ and HJ. She recommended that I should choose another girl if I wanted FS. I told her that I didn't care about her period I would fuck her anyway. She finally came clean and said that she did not have her period, she was just scared because my dick may be too big for her. I reassured her telling her that it is really small. She grabbed my crotch and said no it is really big. I talked her into coming and she asked me how much I would give her. I asked her how much I needed to give her. She said 2000 and I shook my head no. She said 1500 and I shook my head no again. She said how much do you give me then? I held up one finger in front of my nose and said neung pun. She asked short time? I laughed and said no long time. She agreed and bid her friends adieu. It was 3:40am.
As we were walking back to my motorbike she said she had to stop at a bar to get her bag. After she got the bag she told me that she works at the bar, but each day she can decide if she works or not. If she works she has to be there from 6pm until 2am. If a customer pays a 300 baht bar fine the owner gives her 100 baht, and she gets 50 baht from each lady drink. She said that 8 hours is too long to be in a bar and 6pm for her was too early to be going to work.
I had noticed in the disco that she had hazel contact lenses. When we got into the elevator at my place she showed me that one of her eyelashes had come off. I said oh my Buddha. Fake eyes, fake eyelashes. Do not tell me those (pointing to her tits) are fake. She said yes they are. LOL. She is 21 and got them when she was 18 years and 2 months. She said it took her a while to save up the 60,000 baht to buy them. It leads me to believe that she must have been working before age 18. It was a very good boob job though. They made incisions in her armpit to insert the silicone. I teased her that everyone was going to think she was a ladyboy since she had fake tits.
We came into the room and took showers. A BBBJ ensued but then I wanted to start fucking. She was really afraid and showed me her micro-sized pussy. Now I realized why she was scared. She took KY from her bag and applied it liberally. We started off in mish. Very tight she was. I pulled her on top of me with one of my signature moves. When she got used to the size she rode me like a champ. We went to doggy but that was hurting too much for her. She ran into the bathroom and washed off some of the wetness. She came back and showed me where the skin at the bottom of her pussy had split. But she was willing to take more. We went back to mish and showed me how she could make her pussy pulsate. We finished and went to sleep.
I took her home at 2pm when a buddy called me wanting to get together. She called me about 4:30 while we were out and about asking if I was ready to pick her up again. I'm thinking damn I just dropped your ass off. But I told her that I would call to let her know later if I wanted her to come over again. I will definitely repeat, but not today.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm willing to bet that half the guys who were complaining the past couple of weeks will be filling your pm box with requests for a phone number!
Great post.
Anyone know a good place to try some BDSM / fetish type stuff?
I don't know if I'm really too into it, but want to try it out.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1256946]Taxi Meter Rates Set to Increase in Mid-April.
BANGKOK:. The Transport Ministry has approved an increase in taxi meter rates planned to go into effect on April 16.
Phum Palang Taxi Cooperative manager, Kasemsan Chompoodaeng, said the Land Transport Department under the Transport Ministry approved the meter rate increase. However, he said the ministry has not yet concluded what form the price increase will take.
The Land Transport Department will discuss with the Energy Ministry, the PTT and taxi operators. All details will be finalized by April 16, which is the date that the new fares will begin.
As of now, four forms of fare hikes have been proposed. Firstly, the startling price of a cab will be maintained at 35 baht, while meter rates per mile will increase. Conversely, an alternative proposal is to increase the starting price to 40, 45 or 50 baht.
Kasemsan stated that taxi operators have been minimally affected by the energy price hike since the PTT has shouldered most of the burden on the Natural Gas for Vehicles, or NGV, at two baht a liter from January 16 through April 16.
After that, the taxi operators will be facing a gas price hike, so they will be forced to raise taxi fares. Moreover, the Transport Ministry will improve the standard of taxi services.
As of now, there are around 100,000 cabs, and only 80,000 of them has registered with the Ministry. The Ministry will set a limit on the number of cabs so that taxis do not outnumber passengers.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/540130-thai-taxi-meter-rates-set-to-increase-in-mid-april/[/url][/QUOTE]Ok guys time to pull all the stops. If you want to go out now, don't use the taxis. Let's petition the Bangkok government to run MRT and BTS 24 hours. I can see it now. All you guys taking your dates home on the MRT and BTS. In the future we can even make it a new mongering destination. Girls will sit on the trains while the farangs proposition them. No lady drinks, no bar fines, no taxis, what a life for you guys! Car number 1,500 Baht LT, full of ugly ass lady boys and the 50 and up girls. Car number 2 and so on, you get the point. It's called inflation LOL, deal with it!
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1256716] (snip) Why do you all come here to visit and live if you complain so much?
Snip[/QUOTE]You know Morris I've thought of you many times when I've read reports of people enjoying themselves here in Thailand. (not just the Bangkok thread, if you insist on nit-picking. I'm thinking you will.)
I'm glad you had a great time but if you think you are the only one then you are reading selectively.
I say why do YOU continue to to complain on the Bangkok thread?
C4T
well i'm back in the shit hole for mongering the good old states. after a week at the dynasty grande. witch is in a good location for action. started the day off at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on the way to breakfast. then a few massage places and fl's. spent most evenings in billboard's. the best looking girls in there were the bubble girls. the best set is at the end of the little stage were they shower off the bubbles. had drinks with some of the girls. i asked one girl that wares a flower in her hair about lt. she told me only st. 600 barfine. 300 room. 2000 for here. i asked her age and she did not answer right away. then she said 18. i did not partake as she did not answer fast enough for me. late that night i did see some of the bubble girls over at nana liquid disco. the next night in billboard i had a few drinks with the girls and they were all very playful. i meet a fellow statesmen there and we talks for a while about the girls. if he reads this, #159 on the top left would nit have a drink with me. mamasan talked with her for about 15 minutes then told me she was booked for the night. had fun with a girl named nelly and she wanted me to take the girl that did not no her age so i said no and we all went over to liquid later and had a few drinks.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257051]You find many guys talk about an oily girl, a gogo girl, a bar girl, etc. and the differences. But what about a girl who regularly crosses over from one venue to another? I don't think it is so safe to generalize. .[/QUOTE]I would surmise it would be similar to the real workforce where people quit their current job and move on to so-called greener pastures- more money, better working environment, bored, less stress, more fun, their friends work there. Etc IMO, the laziest ones are the pure freelancers who do nothing but watch TV all day and play on Facebook, then turn a few tricks here and there when they need some money or have a few regulars on the side.
What about the G-club girls and the high end massage girls? Do they ever cross over? I guess a girl who has poor social skills would work out better at massage joint, all she has to do is buck, suck and fuck. Whereas, a a G-club girl has to get her hustle and grind one, create the illusion that she likes her clients and have them keep coming back for more.
IMHO, BKK has really changed since I hung out here in June 2010. I found the same SW near the Nana parking lot who remembered me and had charged me 1500 baht for ST anal now wanted 2000 baht for ST Anal. I had found similar results for girls asking for 1500 to 2000 ST baht on my walk back to my hotel from Nana to Asoke station.
There seems to be a nice selection of girls on the street after Thermae cafe headed toward Askoe away from Nana. This is where I found Noy, a 22 year old tiny spinner who went ST FS for 1000 baht. No anal but ok service. (As always, PM for number.) Tonight is my last night in BKK so I'll be out again. We are gonna party at Suzie Wongs around 10 PM tonight! Thanks again to all those that helped me with my questions earlier.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1257065]Ok guys time to pull all the stops. If you want to go out now, don't use the taxis. Let's petition the Bangkok government to run MRT and BTS 24 hours. I can see it now. All you guys taking your dates home on the MRT and BTS. In the future we can even make it a new mongering destination. Girls will sit on the trains while the farangs proposition them. No lady drinks, no bar fines, no taxis, what a life for you guys! Car number 1,500 Baht LT, full of ugly ass lady boys and the 50 and up girls. Car number 2 and so on, you get the point. It's called inflation LOL, deal with it![/QUOTE]For me, your posts were better when you left the satire out. With satire, I just can't be bothered to read it properly. Real life adventures can be much funnier or more interesting. Was good that a previous writer presented hopefully factual information about taxi fares, so that we don't get surprised by it.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257051]You find many guys talk about an oily girl, a gogo girl, a bar girl, etc. and the differences. But what about a girl who regularly crosses over from one venue to another? I don't think it is so safe to generalize. Last night I was in a disco in Pattaya and saw a girl that I liked. I waved her over to my table but she insisted that I come to the table with her and her two friends. She told me that she would go with me but she was on her period so she would only be able to do BJ and HJ. <snip>[/QUOTE]An interesting read.
What crossover? At first I thought you were going to describe a girl that works MP and bar, which would be very strange. Sounds like a normal free-lance bargirl to me. We can't ban bar-girls from attending discos at times. Free-lance girls can do as they please and turn up to bar when they feel like it, but they usually don't want to fuck for free. Anyway describing prices for a Pattaya girl is a little misplaced in this thread.
My favourite bar-girl is a free-lancer and I respect that. It gives her freedom to do what she likes and still make some money to finance her part-time studies.
Its also well known that many bar-girls, who didn't make enough money in the bar, subsequently end up at other pick up places like discos, Nana car park, on the street, etc. Because they need some more money.
In the photos, even with bra on, they are very obvious fakes, so you should not have been surprised.
Yesterday I saw a real stunner on the BTS but her tits were just too high and convex on top. So I thought 90% chance of silicones or else very push-up bra.
I have been told no fucking due to period, then later fucked the girl anyway, since I didn't care, and usual condom precaution. Like you I don't have strong blood phobia unless have cuts in pubic area. I go with concept that condom protects very well against HIV and most other STDs. I wouldn't do DATY in this situation though.
Hi.
Speaking of their ad "going the extra mile", anyone know of where they get girls in that get-up or where I can score a uniform (maybe get a tailor to make one, with velcro for quick tear off and crutchless panties?)
Maybe there should be a theme bar with cooperative air crew? Names anyone?"BJ Class","Flights with Benefits","Soi Cowboy Airways"?
Maybe they already have one in Japan?
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus; 1257256]Hi.
Speaking of their ad "going the extra mile", anyone know of where they get girls in that get-up or where I can score a uniform (maybe get a tailor to make one, with velcro for quick tear off and crutchless panties?)
Maybe there should be a theme bar with cooperative air crew? Names anyone?"BJ Class","Flights with Benefits","Soi Cowboy Airways"?
Maybe they already have one in Japan?[/QUOTE]Annie's 3 days week has.
Air lady uniform.
Cheer leader uniform.
Sailor / police uniform
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1257063]Anyone know a good place to try some BDSM / fetish type stuff?
I don't know if I'm really too into it, but want to try it out.[/QUOTE]There's a place in Soi 33 named Demonia I think. Watch out for grannys, insist on the youngest in the place.
[QUOTE=Aey Annies; 1257288]Annie's 3 days week has.
Air lady uniform.
Cheer leader uniform.
Sailor / police uniform[/QUOTE]Never flown Thai Airways, but wow they really have great ads, and I understand they all have to change into formal traditional outfits once they get on the plane. Here's (hot) Thai singer Pat Suthasinee) singing "Touched", very catchy.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lflsrPBIqW4&feature=fvst[/url]
Thaiair is fine but, try Singaporeair, outstanding! I have flown Japanese airlines, they are so so.
Was in BKK on Monday for a quick daily stop over.
Paid a visit to Nana Hotel MP for "shaving", not the beard, where a skilled lady does the job in a proper way and offered waxing (I denied for this time, must got her number for next visit)
I also had a quick look around.
Noon time is of course not the most appropriate time of the day to judge business at soi 4 and surroundings. But when I passed by at 8. 30pm heading to airport I saw quite lack of folks in the area and also on the usual busy sidewalks of Sukhumvit.
Has anybody seen a down in the business?
I will check next week when I spend 2 nights and can monitor during the mongering hours.
But having looked also at the bars of Soi 33 at 8pm I really feel the business is calm.
Should be a buyer market.
Staying a short 20 hrs in Bangkok for 1st time. Would like a good massage from hot girl with a HJ. I know I'm in the right country but could use some assistance on places close to the hotel or that provide outcall.
Thanks!
EK
[QUOTE=El Kapitan; 1257533]Staying a short 20 hrs in Bangkok for 1st time. Would like a good massage from hot girl with a HJ. I know I'm in the right country but could use some assistance on places close to the hotel or that provide outcall.
Thanks!
EK[/QUOTE]Nice hotel, but not much of a neighborhood for fun stuff. Outcall is your best bet. (or a taxi to one of the better areas for play.)
When I was there I arrived at 1AM. The bellman that showed me to my room offered to get me massage girl. 20 minutes later she was there and she spent the night. 500baht tip to the bellman. 2000 for the girl. It was the perfect finish to 28 hours of travel.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1257453]Has anybody seen a down in the business?[/QUOTE]Absolutely. MPs normally with a lot of Farang business have been light on for customers.
[QUOTE=Western787;1257341]Never flown Thai Airways, but wow they really have great ads, and I understand they all have to change into formal traditional outfits once they get on the plane.[/QUOTE]Ads mean nothing. I use Thai a lot but it is a middle of the road airline. Not great and not really bad. Singapore is way out in front as other poster mentioned."Singapore Girls" can make a long flight pass quickly. Singapore had better movies selection, better food, and really everything better last time I used them.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1257598]Ads mean nothing. I use Thai a lot but it is a middle of the road airline. Not great and not really bad. Singapore is way out in front as other poster mentioned."Singapore Girls" can make a long flight pass quickly. Singapore had better movies selection, better food, and really everything better last time I used them.[/QUOTE]Perhaps true, however I believe Thai was one of the very few, if any, doing non stop (via 4 engine ETOP exempted planes) NYC to Bangkok, obviously very pricey, but now discontinued with the same fate for their non-stop L. A. To Bangkok service. Now its mostly ETOPs and twin engines and stopovers. International trans-oceanic routes are one the few places left where you can a touch of glamour along with a meal. Domestic USA is basically peanuts and angry flight attendants.
I have a 15 hour layover in Bangkok on a Thurs night. I don't get in until 11:30P though. What would be my best bet? Looks like Soi Cowboy is open until around 2:30, Nightclubs later, soapies closed. I have been to Nana plaza a few years back and enjoyed it, but that is all I have done. Yes I have RTFF, but the search feature is not working correctly for me after I log in. Gives me links that are to wrong posts. No idea why, but research is a little challenging and trip fastly approaching.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1257594]Absolutely. MPs normally with a lot of Farang business have been light on for customers.[/QUOTE]Any idea why?
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1257593]Nice hotel, but not much of a neighborhood for fun stuff. Outcall is your best bet. (or a taxi to one of the better areas for play.)
When I was there I arrived at 1AM. The bellman that showed me to my room offered to get me massage girl. 20 minutes later she was there and she spent the night. 500baht tip to the bellman. 2000 for the girl. It was the perfect finish to 28 hours of travel.
Pogo[/QUOTE]Thanks Pogo!
Hi guys,
Just a quick questions. What areas of Bangkok do you recommend to try and find a hotel in (being a first-timer in Bangkok)?
It's rather difficult to decide on accommodation as you'd like somewhere nice and with girl action. But I've got no clue in what area to search.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Neeew; 1257673]Hi guys,
Just a quick questions. What areas of Bangkok do you recommend to try and find a hotel in (being a first-timer in Bangkok)?
It's rather difficult to decide on accommodation as you'd like somewhere nice and with girl action. But I've got no clue in what area to search.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I always stay at the Novotel on Siam square. It is a mid-price nice hotel. Right next to all the big malls and metro and has a good in-house pick up bar / disco (called CM2). Or, you can take a ride to Nana or Soi Cowboy and bring your own girl, simple no-cost registration at the desk and they allow the girl to go to your room.
[QUOTE=Spivey24;1257626]I have a 15 hour layover in Bangkok on a Thurs night. I don't get in until 11:30P though. What would be my best bet? Looks like Soi Cowboy is open until around 2:30, Nightclubs later, soapies closed. I have been to Nana plaza a few years back and enjoyed it, but that is all I have done. Yes I have RTFF, but the search feature is not working correctly for me after I log in. Gives me links that are to wrong posts. No idea why, but research is a little challenging and trip fastly approaching.[/QUOTE]Again, as I suggested to Neew, Novotel on Siam square is a good bet. You can check in, pick up a girl from their disc and take her to your room. Disc is open until about 2 am, I think.
[QUOTE=Neeew; 1257673]Hi guys,
Just a quick questions. What areas of Bangkok do you recommend to try and find a hotel in (being a first-timer in Bangkok)?
It's rather difficult to decide on accommodation as you'd like somewhere nice and with girl action. But I've got no clue in what area to search.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Depends on what you are looking for but since you posted the question in this forum I will assume that girls are part of the equation. If that is the case, look for something in the Nana / Soi 4 / lower Sukhumvit area. Anywhere from Soi 4 (intersects Sukhumvit which is a main drag) to Soi 17 is fine. Lots of restaurants, tourists, internet cafes, bars, billiards, hotels at all price ranges and so on. And girls. Lots of them.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1256598]That being said, however, I haven't seen a decline in quality in the Nana Car Park since 2007.[/QUOTE]Really? Really? NPL on an average night 5 years ago would get over 100 girls. When the Nana disco closed that number would shoot up. Lots of young things. Girls would still be coming out till 3am. Now on a given night you might get 20 and they are basically the same 20 every night and have been for the past 2-3 years. Not to notice this decline is hard to imagine. Beauty may be in the eyes of the beholder but numbers are numbers. The cops have scared all but the brave and desperate away.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1257753]Really? Really? NPL on an average night 5 years ago would get over 100 girls. When the Nana disco closed that number would shoot up. Lots of young things. Girls would still be coming out till 3am. Now on a given night you might get 20 and they are basically the same 20 every night and have been for the past 2-3 years. Not to notice this decline is hard to imagine. Beauty may be in the eyes of the beholder but numbers are numbers. The cops have scared all but the brave and desperate away.[/QUOTE]Not just the cops but the change in demographics over the last few years has scared a lot of the gals away. The area was always a bit shabby, but it is downright disgusting now.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1257765]Not just the cops but the change in demographics over the last few years has scared a lot of the gals away. The area was always a bit shabby, but it is downright disgusting now.[/QUOTE]?? HUH? Nana being shabby and disgusting is what makes it great.
Stay in Sukhumvit around Soi 3, 7 or anywhere along there. Do not go to Riverside. I've been there the last two nights and didn't even get laid.
[QUOTE=Neeew; 1257673]Hi guys,
Just a quick questions. What areas of Bangkok do you recommend to try and find a hotel in (being a first-timer in Bangkok)?
It's rather difficult to decide on accommodation as you'd like somewhere nice and with girl action. But I've got no clue in what area to search.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1257820]?? HUH? Nana being shabby and disgusting is what makes it great.[/QUOTE]Not to the point where the girls, except for the most hardcore skanks, are uncomfortable being there. Nana was always funky and that was wonderful. Now it is just dirty, trash on the streets and as I said very undesirable with the change of demographics.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1257889]Not to the point where the girls, except for the most hardcore skanks, are uncomfortable being there. Nana was always funky and that was wonderful. Now it is just dirty, trash on the streets and as I said very undesirable with the change of demographics.[/QUOTE]Just different of opinions I guess. You are buying a low end Bangkok SW. Not a Mercedes Benz. When was it ever clean?
To me the overall atmosphere and element in that area adds to the experience. That is why I go there.
[QUOTE=pinkpearl]That being said, however, I haven't seen a decline in quality in the Nana Car Park since 2007.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DRRonin;1257753]Really? Really? NPL on an average night 5 years ago would get over 100 girls. When the Nana disco closed that number would shoot up. Lots of young things. Girls would still be coming out till 3am. Now on a given night you might get 20 and they are basically the same 20 every night and have been for the past 2-3 years. Not to notice this decline is hard to imagine. Beauty may be in the eyes of the beholder but numbers are numbers. The cops have scared all but the brave and desperate away.[/QUOTE]This is a comedy of errors. First it seems you only read half of my post which spoke of "quality" and responded to that. But in your response, quoted here, to the subject of "quality" you are speaking of something completely different, namely QUANTITY. Secondly, if you had read my entire post, I already stated that from my observations the Nana Parking Lot numbers this year were down in the evenings.
[QUOTE=pinkpearl]For years here I've read many disparaging comments like yours about the Nana Car Park (NCP) & have responded accordingly. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, most of the pics in the photo thread, even those that claim to be attractive, hot or stunners, I wouldn't go with if they paid me.
That being said, however, I haven't seen a decline in quality in the Nana Car Park since 2007. The price is generally the same, namely 1000 Baht ST. The looks are still there. The service is, if anything, better. Overall my experience certainly is. Last year I was amazed at the bodies of some of those I picked up. This year I haven't got out a lot, as I have my regulars I call but, from my observations, the numbers seem to be down for the evening workers, but up for the daytime. Some girls are also working the street nearby. Or indoors at bars & places like the Beergarden on soi 7. These changes are, I think, at least in part to avoid the LE raids to fine them (pocket) 1000 baht a head. As usual there is always the fresh meat; the new kids in town, from Bumfuck Isaarn. Last year, before the floods, when I paid a couple visits to Rainbow 4 in NEP, the lineup on the streets was better IMO. Also, of course, much cheaper, & probably better service & attitude as well.[/QUOTE]
It's a parking lot, what do people expect to find there, Kim Kardashian for 1k baht ST?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1257808]Majestic suites or nana hotel is best for first timer.[/QUOTE]Really? Majestic Suites is not the best value for money in my experience, and Nana Hotel is just too shitty.
I would suggest Dynasty Grande, or Dawin in that area, or President Palace in Soi 11.
Sorry I'm in the wrong thread.
[quote=harold444;1257786]did you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her?[/quote]no, she was fine with it once she realised a little crimson would not put me off. sometimes girls on period are actually extra horny because of time of month and because didn't get any for a few days. other girls will not do it at all when period. it just depends on their beliefs and reasons.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1257788]Good massage, hot girl, and handjob. 2 out of3 is possible. I seriously doubt you get all 3 in one girl. LOL[/QUOTE]Right. The number of hotties really expert in massage is a little bit limited, but the HJ is not a problem. Not sure why someone would want a HJ only when could get BJ as well, but each to their own. Perhaps its to increase the chances of getting all 3.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1257895]Just different of opinions I guess. You are buying a low end Bangkok SW. Not a Mercedes Benz. When was it ever clean? To me the overall atmosphere and element in that area adds to the experience. That is why I go there.[/QUOTE]I like the thrill too. However, there's a difference between 5% diamonds in the rough and 5% acceptably rough among the absolutely revolting.
Few years back (up to 2007 or 2008) one could find true gems among the freelancers on lower Sukhumwit. On the patch between Soi 3 and 7 I remember finding more than a few 20-25 whyear old fresh freelancers, many out there part-time.
The area the is now mostly frequented by sub-Saharan and ex-Soviet refuse, along with way-beyond-expiration date full-time Thai skanks. The best one can hope for is one of the girls in business since the old times, but now 5 years older and far more crude now after 10, 000 miles of dick. No new entrants, and the good ones quit the business.
Bangkok freelancer scene is no longer worth a shot. Of course for newbies without a reference point, any place with 100+ working girls may seem like a good deal.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1257933]I like the thrill too. However, there's a difference between 5% diamonds in the rough and 5% acceptably rough among the absolutely revolting.
Few years back (up to 2007 or 2008) one could find true gems among the freelancers on lower Sukhumwit. On the patch between Soi 3 and 7 I remember finding more than a few 20-25 whyear old fresh freelancers, many out there part-time.
The area the is now mostly frequented by sub-Saharan and ex-Soviet refuse, along with way-beyond-expiration date full-time Thai skanks. The best one can hope for is one of the girls in business since the old times, but now 5 years older and far more crude now after 10, 000 miles of dick. No new entrants, and the good ones quit the business.
Bangkok freelancer scene is no longer worth a shot. Of course for newbies without a reference point, any place with 100+ working girls may seem like a good deal.[/QUOTE]Croc,
Very well stated, and the caliber of the working girls is just one of the problems. The new "customers" in the area leave a lot to be desired as well.
The freelancer scene is awful, well, in the high end hotel and late night discos, it is ok, but those girls would have been the norm in the BG Soi 7 or Thermae five or six years ago. Paying those prices, one might as well move home.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1257912]It's a parking lot, what do people expect to find there, Kim Kardashian for 1k baht ST?[/QUOTE]Nana lot was great when it was the emptying ground for Nana Plaza. Gals would stream out looking for another ST. 1k baht the rule. Now they make so much money, they have little interest overtime. It is amazing what a sixth grade educated gal from the sticks with a decent body can make now. Many far more than someone with a MBA and years of experience. Puts them way out of touch with the realities of this country, but they will get old! Seem them all the time. Gals that were in their prime when I moved here. Now sad old prostitutes. Should have latched onto a man years ago. Oh, well!
I've never understood why the BKK freelancer scene isn't any good.
It's very good in Phuket and Pattaya.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1257946]I've never understood why the BKK freelancer scene isn't any good.
It's very good in Phuket and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Several times last year in the low season when I went to the Nana Parking Lot, I was the only guy there & had my pick of about 30 ladies, many of whom I had never seen before, including pretty young university girls.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1257912]It's a parking lot, what do people expect to find there, Kim Kardashian for 1k baht ST?[/QUOTE]Just walk around pretending you're Lamar Odom and you might get lucky.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1257933]I like the thrill too. However, there's a difference between 5% diamonds in the rough and 5% acceptably rough among the absolutely revolting.
Few years back (up to 2007 or 2008) one could find true gems among the freelancers on lower Sukhumwit. On the patch between Soi 3 and 7 I remember finding more than a few 20-25 whyear old fresh freelancers, many out there part-time.
The area the is now mostly frequented by sub-Saharan and ex-Soviet refuse, along with way-beyond-expiration date full-time Thai skanks. The best one can hope for is one of the girls in business since the old times, but now 5 years older and far more crude now after 10, 000 miles of dick. No new entrants, and the good ones quit the business.
Bangkok freelancer scene is no longer worth a shot. Of course for newbies without a reference point, any place with 100+ working girls may seem like a good deal.[/QUOTE]Five years back, there was exponentially whatever percentage less of Thai internet information, monger information, et al. Five years back, there were exponentially less work opportunities available. Five years back, there were far fewer girls working the internet, chat rooms, web cams, or finding sugar daddies on such a level as now. Not to mention that 7-8 years back you had a free disco across from Nana where hundreds of girls went, plus the entire Nana Plaza traffic coming across into the parking lot. There was such a pool of talent, it was probably a lot easier to find plenty of diamonds, not to mention that the girls seemed a lot more game just to be happy to find a customer, as opposed to going on about the price or time. These days, if one is a regular on the scene, one notices that it really is 98% or so of the same girls night in night out, and most of them are looking rather expired or about to be. And if they aren't expired, they want a premium for as short a time as possible.
All that said, there still are some diamonds. I walked into the Thermae the other night, full of Japanese and loads of girls not giving white guys the time of day. Was about to leave when I saw a young lady I'd never seen before seemingly smiling at me. I figured it must be the Japanese guy behind me she was looking at, as this girl was tall, model type build, white skin, very pretty. But no, further investigation revealed it was me she had the grin for. Came over, talked a few minutes, claimed to be a Ramkamhaeng student. 22, and that her friend had just brought her there. She asked if she could go home with me (!) , no discussion about cash, super performance, great attitude, made me feel 10 years younger. Gave her 1500 baht and she asked when she could visit again. So I guess for all the flak we give the scene these days, there are still those moments to be had. It will be a sad day if that ever is not the case.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1257912]It's a parking lot, what do people expect to find there, Kim Kardashian for 1k baht ST?[/QUOTE]But the point of this admittedly pointless discussion is that five years ago you could get lots of very nice 18-22 year old girls in NPL for 1000 baht. But admittedly everything changes and one just has to adapt. But not so easy for an old dog like myself who finds go-gos and massage parlors too commercial and industrial for comfort. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1258078]But the point of this admittedly pointless discussion is that five years ago you could get lots of very nice 18-22 year old girls in NPL for 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]Rose glasses. To some of us, the talent in Nana carpark has been pretty sparse for many years. I recall struggling to find anything of interest back 5 years ago, but I am picky. I only ever found 1 girl really worth repeating there, and she wasn't exactly stunning, so you can image I never been there too regularly. Cheap was possible. Many complete amateurs back then.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1257946]I've never understood why the BKK freelancer scene isn't any good.
It's very good in Phuket and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Well I beg to differ. I think your question should be."I don't understand why I can't pick up a hot freelance chick for only 1000Baht". I have been to Insomnia, Thermae, and Climax. Climax is where I have had the most luck. When I mean luck, I mean with finding hot freelancer chicks, but unfortunately for you, not for 1000 Baht. Here is an example. Last weekend I went to Soi Cowboy and picked up a girl in Rio. Before going back to my place we decided to have a few drinks and listen to the band at Climax. Well this cutee got so drunk she could not go with me. I had to salvage my evening and this night there were so many hot girls there. I ended up finding another girl for 3000LT. She stayed until 2pm the next day. We talked about this very issue. She told me many guys will offer her 1000Baht or 1500Baht LT like it is a fortune to them. She does not even counter offer. She told me in her eyes they are cheap and it turns her off. She only does this part time and does not want to compromise on price when she can get more. Sometimes she goes to Hong Kong and can get 2000HKD or more LT so why would she accept 1000Baht or 1500Baht that these so called freelancers get who hang out in parking lots and beer gardens? Guys it is simple, most of the time if you want quality you have to pay unless you get lucky and find a freebie. LOL but even then you have to pay. For example I met a real cutee on Badoo. We went for dinner at CDC, Wine I Love You restaurant. The bill was 2700Baht. So guys in the end you pay for quality no matter what. If you want to spend 1000-1500Baht your girls looks will reflect that price. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to each their own. Anyone can spend a few Baht to get a simple lay, however I monger to fuck hot chicks, it is easy to pick up the average ones for free. To find a real beauty you have to wine and dine them sometimes for weeks to get into their pants and sometimes I would just like to skip all that. Paying a higher premium just seems to do the trick for me. In the end I get to fuck some really hot chicks.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1258138]The freelance customer isn't very good either. Nothing but guys who don't want spen over 1000 baht. Why would a hot chick want to deal with those people?
I've read in other forums Pattaya isn't better than BKK just cheaper![/QUOTE]I think free lance seen is improving. Try beer garden. You can find CIS, uzbek and arab free lancers arround Grace Hotel and and Indian restaurant betwwen sukumvit and grace hotel
Free Lance is hit or miss. Ironically, it seems that whenever you're out and about, but not looking for them, they're all over! But when you're on the freelance prowl, you can only find the kind you see in the photo section LOL
[quote=drronin;1257753]the cops have scared all but the brave and desperate away.[/quote]the bib have been raiding entertainment places since the 1920's & the nana parking lot "street walkers" for years. although reports i recieved from working girls last year suggested the raids were getting more frequent, as often as 6 in a night. this year i am hearing that the multiple sweeps in an evening continue. furthermore, i was given the impression that the ladies may now be required to go to the station for processing, which involves such things as a mug shot, fingerprinting, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] test, etc, and the fine has increased from 1000 to 2000 baht. this obviously takes time, which means loss of revenue, and may be embarassing. if the pussy seller or ladyboy cannot pay the fee, they are incarcerated for 10 days or 200 baht per day. although i am told if one begs and tells an officer that you don't have the 2000 & offer 1000, they may pocket it, return your i'd & set you free.
so, if true, this could explain why we are seeing fewer npl working ladies in 2012 as well as other sws in the area. instead of appearing as sws standing at a certain spot, they may be walking around the area trying to chat up or eyeball potential customers. like i said, look for them elsewhere in the neighborhood, like the nana hotel disco, nana liquid. from my experiences & reading, it is slow in the early evenings, but can get very crowded later.
as the le don't appear to do daytime raids, more sws are around then than before. the bars in soi 4, btw, seem much busier in the morning & afternoons now than in the low season last year.
from my contacts i am informed that ladyboys are the primary target of the bib due to the troubles they have been causing with assaulting, drugging & robbing farang clients.
[quote=pinkpearl; 1258258]the bib have been raiding entertainment places since the 1920's & the nana parking lot "street walkers" for years. although reports i recieved from working girls last year suggested the raids were getting more frequent, as often as 6 in a night. this year i am hearing that the multiple sweeps in an evening continue. furthermore, i was given the impression that the ladies may now be required to go to the station for processing, which involves such things as a mug shot, fingerprinting, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] test, etc, and the fine has increased from 1000 to 2000 baht. this obviously takes time, which means loss of revenue, and may be embarassing. if the pussy seller or ladyboy cannot pay the fee, they are incarcerated for 10 days or 200 baht per day. although i am told if one begs and tells an officer that you don't have the 2000 & offer 1000, they may pocket it, return your i'd & set you free.
so, if true, this could explain why we are seeing fewer npl working ladies in 2012 as well as other sws in the area. instead of appearing as sws standing at a certain spot, they may be walking around the area trying to chat up or eyeball potential customers. like i said, look for them elsewhere in the neighborhood, like the nana hotel disco, nana liquid. from my experiences & reading, it is slow in the early evenings, but can get very crowded later.
as the le don't appear to do daytime raids, more sws are around then than before. the bars in soi 4, btw, seem much busier in the morning & afternoons now than in the low season last year.
from my contacts i am informed that ladyboys are the primary target of the bib due to the troubles they have been causing with assaulting, drugging & robbing farang clients.[/quote]btw the reference to a bribe, offering 1000 to an officer, is at the scene of the "crime", not at the police station.
another reason some may feel is a cause of increased le hassles of sws is the policies of the new yingluck government.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1257341]Never flown Thai Airways, but wow they really have great ads, and I understand they all have to change into formal traditional outfits once they get on the plane. Here's (hot) Thai singer Pat Suthasinee) singing "Touched", very catchy.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lflsrPBIqW4&feature=fvst[/url][/QUOTE]How about Cathay Pacific?
[url]http://myxxxcentral.com/2011/08/pilot-and-stewardess-new-members-of-the-mile-high-club/[/url]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1258258]look for them elsewhere in the neighborhood, like the Nana hotel disco, Nana Liquid. From my experiences & reading, it is slow in the early evenings, but can get very crowded later.[/QUOTE]Have you or others been in Nana Liquid of late? It was taken over late last year by the owners of Billboard and Las Vegas and so I had hopes that they might turn it around. One girl who works in Billboard told me that the owners encourage the girls to go there after hours and that if they get guys to buy them drinks, they get the same as they do if someone buys them a drink in the go-go. Keep meaning to go but never seem to get around to it.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1258347]Have you or others been in Nana Liquid of late? It was taken over late last year by the owners of Billboard and Las Vegas and so I had hopes that they might turn it around. One girl who works in Billboard told me that the owners encourage the girls to go there after hours and that if they get guys to buy them drinks, they get the same as they do if someone buys them a drink in the go-go. Keep meaning to go but never seem to get around to it.[/QUOTE]I saw a farang gent go in there in the afternoon one day recently. The owner? It looks like they've may have been doing a bit renovations or something similar this month.
Also noticed some model types or total stunners in the near vicinity in the early evenings. One was hanging around out back near soi 4 using her phone, and the others sitting in the Nana hotel bar close to the entrance to Nana Liquid.
I've gone in a few times & it's been busy later on, certainly after 10 pm. It seems there is no entry fee & no one hassled me to buy anything or grabbed my arm as I did a walk through. I don't recall any cigarette smokers or extremely loud music. It was what I'd describe as crowded, perhaps all seating was taken as many people were standing or dancing, but the place is not big.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1258258]From my contacts I am informed that ladyboys are the primary target of the BIB due to the troubles they have been causing with assaulting, drugging & robbing farang clients.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there it was quite evident that LadyBoys were the main target or the police (who are not in blue of course) , and one or two wanted to sit with me where I was eating outside to look more innocuous, and they confirmed the police liked to hassle them. I have no clue what LE are.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1258410]Last time I was there it was quite evident that LadyBoys were the main target or the police (who are not in blue of course) , and one or two wanted to sit with me where I was eating outside to look more innocuous, and they confirmed the police liked to hassle them. I have no clue what LE are.[/QUOTE]LE is Law Enforcement.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms[/url]
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1258347]Have you or others been in Nana Liquid of late? It was taken over late last year by the owners of Billboard and Las Vegas and so I had hopes that they might turn it around. One girl who works in Billboard told me that the owners encourage the girls to go there after hours and that if they get guys to buy them drinks, they get the same as they do if someone buys them a drink in the go-go. Keep meaning to go but never seem to get around to it.[/QUOTE]The couple of times that I have been to Liquid I could count the number of people on two hands. It was pretty empty. Nothing like the old Angels Disco. There was a live band. My experience was totally different from Pink Pearl's. I guess YMMV with this place.
Nana Liquid is a waste of time. Barely any available girls and the live band is loud and bad.
Hi Gentleman and Ladies,
I am back after a several year hiatus.
Looking to go back to Giottos next week. Any news on his, or new, places?
Thanks,
EU
Understand that the is a royal funnel and that the bars have been requested to close for 8. 10 Apr. Will this be all areas, Pattaya, Bangkok, Nana, Soi. Thank you
[QUOTE=Strikesfun;1258790]Understand that the is a royal funnel and that the bars have been requested to close for 8. 10 Apr. Will this be all areas, Pattaya, Bangkok, Nana, Soi. Thank you[/QUOTE]What is a royal funnel?
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1258831]What is a royal funnel?[/QUOTE]Furneral! No alcohol, Bars closed? Right in the middle of Songkran?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1258844]Furneral! No alcohol, Bars closed? Right in the middle of Songkran?
LBM[/QUOTE]Songkran is 12-15, so if the bars are closed 8-10, everyone will be ready to party.
[QUOTE=Eucontracror; 1258787]Hi Gentleman and Ladies,
I am back after a several year hiatus.
Looking to go back to Giottos next week. Any news on his, or new, places?
Thanks,
EU[/QUOTE]Was there last week for a short spell daytime.
Seemed to me that Soi 33 was a bit quiet and so was the Sport Lounge, surprisingly as at dinner time it should be more equipped.
Will not take long before I can check again, including night time.
About what's new at LL it all depends when you were there last time.
In Bangkok now for 5 days. My tailor and the hotel guys all told me that they expect political trouble during Songkran. I don't know how accurate their prediction is but they live here. Have backup plans if airport is shut down or something.
[QUOTE=Funman13;1258900]In Bangkok now for 5 days. My tailor and the hotel guys all told me that they expect political trouble during Songkran. I don't know how accurate their prediction is but they live here. Have backup plans if airport is shut down or something.[/QUOTE]I Hope nothing happens but my flight out is anyhow scheduled on 11th morning since months.
Does anyone have any info regarding massage parlors snow white and annies, will it be closed like mango massage from April 13 to April 17?
Thank you.
I have been when it was suppose to be dry and still gotten served in places.
I have been dutifully reading the forum in preparation for a business trip to BKK. My model for a business trip is based on my Medellin experience, where life at the Mansion introduces a "can't fail" aspect to any particular day (or night!).
I thought that LL would be the Thai equivalent of the Mansion, but when I look at Giotto's forum, there is hardly anything written in the last few years. I am delighted that Giotto himself is still in business, but I have no idea if the Lodge is still an exciting and fun place. There really are very few reports, although there are clearly still people who like the place.
My impression is that LL is particularly good for those of us who do not know the city, but that the girls / BF at the sports bar (as well as Soi 33 in general) are probably a bit overpriced. That being said, Giotto himself has a treasure trove of information that he happily shares with his guests concerning other venues.
Is this a fair summary? Has anyone been there recently who could shed some light on this?
[QUOTE=Forest; 1259008]I have been dutifully reading the forum in preparation for a business trip to BKK. My model for a business trip is based on my Medellin experience, where life at the Mansion introduces a "can't fail" aspect to any particular day (or night!).
I thought that LL would be the Thai equivalent of the Mansion.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is wise to make this sort of comparison. LL is a place to stay that is in amongst a street with many Massage Places and Sports Bars. Failure to choose a suitable girl, with the right chemistry, is certainly possible. LL Sports bar attracts girls who want to work in a classier place than a go-go bar but don't want to do massage where they have little opportunity to refuse customers. LL Sports bar gives nice fun guys a chance to hook up with girls where a good chemistry exists, and helps these girls pay the rent too. LL is a relaxed laid back place, like an Oasis in the middle of a city, where can eat breakfast even when it seems to be lunchtime.
The girls in these places are mostly not likely to be porn-stars, but may still be suited to the customer if the chemistry is right. These girls don't last for a long time if they are really great, because they are mostly looking for a western boyfriend / husband and many of Giotto's girls have been indeed stolen away by customers. I don't know anything about the current set of girls there.
If you stay at LL and don't find the right girl in the sports bar, or they are too shy for your taste (assuming you look for wild and very experienced girls) , then there are plenty of other options around, like nearby Massage Parlours, or go-gos with naked girls in Soi Cowboy.
For a really almost cannot fail experience, check out reports about famous Oily Massage Places like Mango, Snow White, and Tulip. Wayward porn-star girls from there can be taken away for the night too.
Forgive me if I misinterpret your desires, but Latin girls seem like wild go-ers to me.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1259008]I have been dutifully reading the forum. My impression is that LL is particularly good for those of us who do not know the city, but that the girls / BF at the sports bar (as well as Soi 33 in general) are probably a bit overpriced. That being said, Giotto himself has a treasure trove of information that he happily shares with his guests concerning other venues.
Is this a fair summary? Has anyone been there recently who could shed some light on this?[/QUOTE]One thing is for sure, as a first timer you can't go wrong with LL. It is not the cheapest place but it is more than worth it's price. There is no requirement that you have to get the girls from the Sports Lounge. (BTW the barfine goes down after midnight or so). I have stayed many times and I would recommend it highly. Where else you can get a mentor for free, who can give you all the insights of BKK night and day scenes.
Guide for dating thai girls, with more the expat in mind:
1. Don't try to date a bargirl. Just don't. They're for fun. Enjoy them. But leave it at that. Find one with no connection at all to the nightlife. Seems hard at first, but gets easier with time.
2. Be careful with girls under 25. Especially if you're over 40. Thai girls are fairly immature in general, but if she's under 25 forget it. If you're an older guy, thai women in their 30s and 40s seem to make for very happy and stable relationships.
3. Be very firm about money. She will try to test you to see if you're dumb and loose with it. If you are, she will lose respect for you and treat you like an ATM. However, if you are modest and fair then she will respect you. Remember that it doesn't take a lot of money to offer thai girls a better life than what they're used to.
4. Find a girl with a job. Make her keep it. If she sits around your place all day doing nothing, she may become bored, lonely, spoiled, fat and / or unpleasant, none of which will work out well for you.
5. Be extra careful with girls from Isaan. There are certainly many nice ones from there, but there's a reason why that region supplies 95% of prostitutes.
6. If she tells you it's customary to support her family financially, don't do it. And possibly break up with her. This is just a scam.
7. Some more things to watch out for: a "brother" she seems awfully close to. 50 or 100 farang "friends" on facebook / skype / etc. If she's not working but seems to have enough money to live on. Good English despite a very low education.
8. Don't rush into marriage and children. Many of them push these things hard because they want to lock a man down. But take your time.
9. Be prepared that she will be extremely jealous, especially in the beginning. Looking through your phone, calling you constantly to check on you, etc. Once she feels safe that you aren't about to break up with her, she'll relax and give you some leeway.
10. It's somewhat customary and accepted by thai women that their man will play around on the side. As long as it's nothing serious, is discreet and doesn't interfere with her, they'll generally look the other way. Even if she suspects you spent the afternoon at the massage parlour, she'll be fine if you come home to her every night.
11. Thai women flip out and go nutty if you leave them home alone for a few days. They'll even start seeing ghosts. Be careful about long trips unless you want to deal with hysteria.
12. There are nice legitimate girls to be found on the main e-dating sites, but a good number of the girls on there are "grey area" semi-pros. Looking for free holidays, new cell phones, or unusually large taxi bills to come visit your hotel. I've found multiple gogo girls on dating sites before too, even ones I had slept with before. You have to wade through all of this if you want to find a dateable girl on an internet dating site. If possible, it's better to meet girls through work, through friends, or just while out at restaurants or shopping areas (away from Sukhumvit).
Anything I missed?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1259055]Guide for dating thai girls, with more the expat in mind:
1. Don't try to date a bargirl. Just don't. They're for fun. Enjoy them. But leave it at that. Find one with no connection at all to the nightlife. Seems hard at first, but gets easier with time.
2. Be careful with girls under 25. Especially if you're over 40. Thai girls are fairly immature in general, but if she's under 25 forget it. If you're an older guy, thai women in their 30s and 40s seem to make for very happy and stable relationships.
3. Be very firm about money. She will try to test you to see if you're dumb and loose with it. If you are, she will lose respect for you and treat you like an ATM. However, if you are modest and fair then she will respect you. Remember that it doesn't take a lot of money to offer thai girls a better life than what they're used to.
4. Find a girl with a job. Make her keep it. If she sits around your place all day doing nothing, she may become bored, lonely, spoiled, fat and / or unpleasant, none of which will work out well for you.
5. Be extra careful with girls from Isaan. There are certainly many nice ones from there, but there's a reason why that region supplies 95% of prostitutes.
6. If she tells you it's customary to support her family financially, don't do it. And possibly break up with her. This is just a scam.
7. Some more things to watch out for: a "brother" she seems awfully close to. 50 or 100 farang "friends" on facebook / skype / etc. If she's not working but seems to have enough money to live on. Good English despite a very low education.
8. Don't rush into marriage and children. Many of them push these things hard because they want to lock a man down. But take your time.
9. Be prepared that she will be extremely jealous, especially in the beginning. Looking through your phone, calling you constantly to check on you, etc. Once she feels safe that you aren't about to break up with her, she'll relax and give you some leeway.
10. It's somewhat customary and accepted by thai women that their man will play around on the side. As long as it's nothing serious, is discreet and doesn't interfere with her, they'll generally look the other way. Even if she suspects you spent the afternoon at the massage parlour, she'll be fine if you come home to her every night.
11. Thai women flip out and go nutty if you leave them home alone for a few days. They'll even start seeing ghosts. Be careful about long trips unless you want to deal with hysteria.
Anything I missed?[/QUOTE]I think that you have covered all the major points very well.
Just ONE THING that I would add.
In my experience of Thai girls they do have just as many problems in understanding Farrang Culture as we do in understanding them!
What, to THEM, seems perfectly normal behaviour, to us guys is completely CRAZY!
And, by the same token some of the things that WE do, say and think must seem absolutely incomprehensible to them.
Just TRY to accept that we are so, so different and just accept that you will NEVER completly understand Thai behaviour and you will not be far wrong!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1259020]Forgive me if I misinterpret your desires, but Latin girls seem like wild go-ers to me.[/QUOTE]I am not entirely new to BKK, as I spent two nights and three days there a few years ago. I don't think Latin girls are "wild go-ers" any more than the Thai girls I met. There are many major differences between the scenes, such as the Go-Go bars I saw in Soi Cowboy, the soapy and the Blow Job Bar I went to (NOTHING like these exist in Latin America). The Medellin Mansion is nice because there are almost always really nice chicas who are hanging around there ready for a customer. There is no bar fine for mongerers at the mansion either, and the prices are only slightly higher than in the clubs. What I was referring to in comparing LL to the Mansion was only that girls are easily available on the premises.
One major difference that I did note was that non-pro Thai girls were very hard to conquer for the traveler in BKK. In contrast, with a little internet preparation (tagged, badoo, etc) , I have never fail to get a non-pro in Latin America who is half my age, even if I am there only a few days. Even though I plan to be in BKK an entire week, I doubt I will succeed in conquering a non-pro (I would be delighted to take advice on this if someone thinks they can help!).
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will book my room with Giotto.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1259075]One major difference that I did note was that non-pro Thai girls were very hard to conquer for the traveler in BKK. In contrast, with a little internet preparation (tagged, badoo, etc) , I have never fail to get a non-pro in Latin America who is half my age, even if I am there only a few days. Even though I plan to be in BKK an entire week, I doubt I will succeed in conquering a non-pro (I would be delighted to take advice on this if someone thinks they can help!).
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will book my room with Giotto.[/QUOTE]You might want to try more online dating sites in addition to Baddoo and Tagged. Also try not to shoot for the moon and go for a 20 something Hi-so girl. Hell even a young hansum Brad Pitt look alike would have a hard time pulling that. Try for a nice looking MILF in their 30's and you might find better luck.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1259075]I am not entirely new to BKK, as I spent two nights and three days there a few years ago. I don't think Latin girls are "wild go-ers" any more than the Thai girls I met. There are many major differences between the scenes, such as the Go-Go bars I saw in Soi Cowboy, the soapy and the Blow Job Bar I went to (NOTHING like these exist in Latin America). The Medellin Mansion is nice because there are almost always really nice chicas who are hanging around there ready for a customer. There is no bar fine for mongerers at the mansion either, and the prices are only slightly higher than in the clubs. What I was referring to in comparing LL to the Mansion was only that girls are easily available on the premises.
One major difference that I did note was that non-pro Thai girls were very hard to conquer for the traveler in BKK. In contrast, with a little internet preparation (tagged, badoo, etc) , I have never fail to get a non-pro in Latin America who is half my age, even if I am there only a few days. Even though I plan to be in BKK an entire week, I doubt I will succeed in conquering a non-pro (I would be delighted to take advice on this if someone thinks they can help!).
Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will book my room with Giotto.[/QUOTE]Non Pro is easy. I am in my 50's and get them in their low 30's. Thai friendly and Thai Lovelinks. Easy pickins.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1251741]Thais don't care who gives them money, though, they do like the big spenders better.
Probably a lot easier to get the "farang" and cheap charlie dip shits to leave first.
Funny thing, from the looks of things these days, they already are![/QUOTE]How do you know this? Are you guessing? Is there any reasearch to support your comments?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1258213]Well I beg to differ. I think your question should be."I don't understand why I can't pick up a hot freelance chick for only 1000Baht". I have been to Insomnia, Thermae, and Climax. Climax is where I have had the most luck. When I mean luck, I mean with finding hot freelancer chicks, but unfortunately for you, not for 1000 Baht. Here is an example. Last weekend I went to Soi Cowboy and picked up a girl in Rio. Before going back to my place we decided to have a few drinks and listen to the band at Climax. Well this cutee got so drunk she could not go with me. I had to salvage my evening and this night there were so many hot girls there. I ended up finding another girl for 3000LT. She stayed until 2pm the next day. We talked about this very issue. She told me many guys will offer her 1000Baht or 1500Baht LT like it is a fortune to them. She does not even counter offer. She told me in her eyes they are cheap and it turns her off. She only does this part time and does not want to compromise on price when she can get more. Sometimes she goes to Hong Kong and can get 2000HKD or more LT so why would she accept 1000Baht or 1500Baht that these so called freelancers get who hang out in parking lots and beer gardens? Guys it is simple, most of the time if you want quality you have to pay unless you get lucky and find a freebie. LOL but even then you have to pay. For example I met a real cutee on Badoo. We went for dinner at CDC, Wine I Love You restaurant. The bill was 2700Baht. So guys in the end you pay for quality no matter what. If you want to spend 1000-1500Baht your girls looks will reflect that price. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to each their own. Anyone can spend a few Baht to get a simple lay, however I monger to fuck hot chicks, it is easy to pick up the average ones for free. To find a real beauty you have to wine and dine them sometimes for weeks to get into their pants and sometimes I would just like to skip all that. Paying a higher premium just seems to do the trick for me. In the end I get to fuck some really hot chicks.[/QUOTE]Wow where do I start with this post.
After the girl you barfined from Rio got too drunk (on your bill), you paid 3000 LT to a Climax girl, bragging about how she stayed until 2PM? Wahahahaha.
You paid 2700 for dinner with a girl from Badoo? Ahahahaha.
And then on top of that, you posted a photo of a completely average looking thai bargirl.
Treating hoes like princesses. This is how places get ruined.
[QUOTE=Forest;1259075]One major difference that I did note was that non-pro Thai girls were very hard to conquer for the traveler in BKK. In contrast, with a little internet preparation (tagged, badoo, etc) , I have never fail to get a non-pro in Latin America who is half my age, even if I am there only a few days. Even though I plan to be in BKK an entire week, I doubt I will succeed in conquering a non-pro (I would be delighted to take advice on this if someone thinks they can help!).[/QUOTE]It depends on the quality of girl you like. There are a lot of non-pro throw backs to be had for free.
If you spend some time in BKK and look around where couples usually hang out together, you'll RARELY notice a QUALITY non-pro Thai girl with a foreigner. For the most part, non-pro Thai women have zero interest in foreigners. There is no need anymore for them to waste there time on non-thais. Thai men have enough money now to keep the goods to themselves. Thailand is not conducive for hooking up with non-pros unless you like the scraps.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1259213]It depends on the quality of girl you like. There are a lot of non-pro throw backs to be had for free.
If you spend some time in BKK and look around where couples usually hang out together, you'll RARELY notice a QUALITY non-pro Thai girl with a foreigner. For the most part, non-pro Thai women have zero interest in foreigners. There is no need anymore for them to waste there time on non-thais. Thai men have enough money now to keep the goods to themselves. Thailand is not conducive for hooking up with non-pros unless you like the scraps.[/QUOTE]
Some truth to this, but not entirely.
They don't have a lot of interest in sleeping with men twice their age wearing shorts and flip flops and a tattered t-shirt who looks like he just stumbled out of a taxi that came from the nana hotel.
There is interest in a respectable employed farang not here on holiday with an age not so far away from hers.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259055]Be extra careful with girls from Isaan. There are certainly many nice ones from there, but there's a reason why that region supplies 95% of prostitutes.[/QUOTE]The reason that there are so many working girls from Isaan is not that they are naturally inclined to prostitution. If is because Isaan is the most poverty-stricken region of Thailand and the only marketable commodity for many families is their daughters' pussies.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1259209]Wow where do I start with this post.
After the girl you barfined from Rio got too drunk (on your bill) , you paid 3000 LT to a Climax girl, bragging about how she stayed until 2PM? Wahahahaha.
You paid 2700 for dinner with a girl from Badoo? Ahahahaha.
And then on top of that, you posted a photo of a completely average looking thai bargirl.
Treating hoes like princesses. This is how places get ruined.[/QUOTE]I would be interested in seeing pictures of some girls you dated? This girl is 100 percent hotter and cuter than any girl I have seen posted by others in this photo gallery. Put your money where your mouth is a post some photos of your conquests. Thai girls by the way don't need a lot of alcohol to get drunk. I store a bottle at climax and she drank 3 drinks from it, and since she does not drink too much she got toasted! The girl from Badoo was someone I was dating for a while. I like to go to nice places, and not back packer alley like most expats in Bangkok. Anytime you want go looking for freebies together and see who can pick up the hottest one you can PM.
[QUOTE=Dazednconfused;1259223]The reason that there are so many working girls from Isaan is not that they are naturally inclined to prostitution. If is because Isaan is the most poverty-stricken region of Thailand and the only marketable commodity for many families is their daughters' pussies.[/QUOTE]There are many NE TH / Isaan villages where very few, or no, women go to work as prostitutes. How do you explain this?
There are many Thai prostitutes that are not from Isaan. Thai men actually prefer women from north Thailand, and the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.
You could write a dissertation (and many have) about the roots of poverty in Thailand. Your statement,"the only marketable commodity for many (Isaan) families is their daughters' pussies," is a very simplistic view of reality.
Every "working" Thai woman I've met and gotten to know has a different story.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1259193]How do you know this? Are you guessing? Is there any reasearch to support your comments?[/QUOTE]I live in central Bangkok, have for years, and see it everyday. I know a lot of "working girls" as friends. And, I am trained in sociological and economic research.
So, not guessing.
Research? On Thai working girls preferring money spending Asian men over "cheap charlie" farang? That's funny.
One only has to spend a little time on Soi Thaniya, or in Soi Cowboy's Baccara, to figure this one out.
Btw, I do my research with a cold beer and a high performance camera!
[QUOTE=Dazednconfused;1259223]The reason that there are so many working girls from Isaan is not that they are naturally inclined to prostitution. If is because Isaan is the most poverty-stricken region of Thailand and the only marketable commodity for many families is their daughters' pussies.[/QUOTE]I understand that. But it also makes it more likely that a girl from Isaan will want to date a foreigner for all the wrong reasons ($$$).
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1259230]the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.[/QUOTE]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Really? You have checked their accounting?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259230]There are many NE TH / Isaan villages where very few, or no, women go to work as prostitutes. How do you explain this?
There are many Thai prostitutes that are not from Isaan. Thai men actually prefer women from north Thailand, and the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.
You could write a dissertation (and many have) about the roots of poverty in Thailand. Your statement,"the only marketable commodity for many (Isaan) families is their daughters' pussies," is a very simplistic view of reality.
Every "working" Thai woman I've met and gotten to know has a different story.[/QUOTE]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too? Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not. Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds. A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess. Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?
There must be many relevant issues.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1259271]Really? You have checked their accounting?[/QUOTE]If Thais ranging from waitresses up to high government officials were not making significant money off of it, much more than they could make from the local industry, Cowboy and Pattaya would be shut down and cease to exist.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1259209]Wow where do I start with this post.
After the girl you barfined from Rio got too drunk (on your bill) , you paid 3000 LT to a Climax girl, bragging about how she stayed until 2PM? Wahahahaha.
You paid 2700 for dinner with a girl from Badoo? Ahahahaha.
And then on top of that, you posted a photo of a completely average looking thai bargirl.
Treating hoes like princesses. This is how places get ruined.[/QUOTE]Here are some pics of some freelance girls and freebies from my recent outings. I am still waiting for yours!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1259291]Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds.[/QUOTE]Its all economics!
There are plenty of Thai guys who like Isaan girls and fuck them all the time. It's just farang / japs will pay way more than Thais to to fuck these Isaan types, so they gravitate towards farang / jap venues to make the most cash.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1259291]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too?[/QUOTE]Isaan on the whole is not as backward as people often think. It is the home to more than 25 million people and there are large cities (Khorat, Khon Kaen, Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani, Nakhon Phanom) , with thriving economies and good schools. The countryside is mainly agricultural and seasonally dry, however, it is very productive in the wet season. The generic poverty that I've observed is more related to lack of infrastructure investment (roads, etc.) , poor quality education, and restricted access to private capital. Of course, peoples' habits and bad luck can create personal poverty.
In general, Thai men prefer young girls who've not born children, and with light skin. You don't find a lot of Isaan women who meet these criteria. Most of the white skinned women come from Bangkok, the north and central regions. Also, Isaan women generally speak a different language (Isaan / Lao) than moneyed Thai men.
[QUOTE]Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not.[/QUOTE]Thai people will go wherever they can to make money. I lived in the south for awhile and met a lot of people from Isaan, and other parts of Thailand, as well.
Chiang Mai is close to China in more ways than just geography. White skin, beauty, and elegance are valued here in female characteristics.
Malaysian men, who form the predominant group visiting frequent Hat Yai, probably are not as interested in white skin as their Thai counterparts.
[QUOTE]Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds.[/QUOTE]A lot of farang men prefer darker skin women. Generally, the women who work in exclusively farang venues cannot get jobs in the Thai venues. The exception would be low end place for "cheap charlie" Thais.
[QUOTE]A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess.[/QUOTE]They have to send "milk money" back to mama.
[QUOTE]Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?[/QUOTE]Part of Thai Buddhism and Thai culture is a strong principle that daughters are indebted to their mother and father, and must always take care of them, no matter what. This is especially true for the eldest daughter.
[QUOTE]There must be many relevant issues.[/QUOTE]You might take a look at this link:
[url]http://www.siamhoney.com/thai_second_class.php[/url]
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The domestic business is huge compared to the tourist business.
Ever been to Ratchadaphisek Road? [url]http://www.bangkoksite.com/entertainment/Ratchadapisek.htm[/url]
There are karaoke bars, massage shops, and brothels in just about every Thai city and town. The tourist business is limited to a handful of well lit, well known locales.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1259291]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too? Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not. Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds. A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess. Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?
There must be many relevant issues.[/QUOTE]I don't think its as complicated as you see it.
The Thai government itself has admitted Thai IQ's in general are below international standards, and Isaan is well below even the Thailand average. The Thai government then takes the politically correct stance that low IQ's are fixable, when in fact beyond marginal IQ improvements with better education and nutrition and so forth, IQ's are very slow to change, as their causations derive over thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of years. Now as far as Bangkok and other areas such as Phuket, they have benefitted from a 1000 years of Chinese migration and intermarriage, which of course acts as an offsetting factor given that China, Korea, and Japan on an aggregate basis have the highest IQ's of any group in the world. As has been widely reported "more than 80% of top 40 richest people in Thailand are Thai of full or partly Chinese descent". Raw IQ being largely innate from birth may be unfair, but it can and often does influence what type of occupation one ends up working in.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259322]Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The domestic business is huge compared to the tourist business.
Ever been to Ratchadaphisek Road?
[url]http://www.bangkoksite.com/entertainment/Ratchadapisek.htm[/url]
There are karaoke bars, massage shops, and brothels in just about every Thai city and town. The tourist business is limited to a handful of well lit, well known locales.[/QUOTE]I've seen plenty of local places in small towns. Business was terrible.
Pattaya likely makes more in a week than the the domestic places in every small town in Thailand make in a year.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Gentle Boner. The thai men only allow us poor foreigners to fuck their brown skinned poorer people from Isaan etc, the white skinned thai girls are reserved for the locals and command a huge price. On Ratcahaphisek Road there is a huge brothel, actually two hotels joined together and they simply won't allow farang inside unless brought by a thai. Next time you are in Cowboy do a little research, sit by the cashier and count the money, count the empty beer bottles outside at the end of the night, count how many bargirls go home alone, even in the best of bars the takings are not all that huge, and don't ever believe a bar owner, his only way out of his "investment" is to suck in the next guy.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1259348]On Ratcahaphisek Road there is a huge brothel, actually two hotels joined together and they simply won't allow farang inside unless brought by a thai.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place? How much are the girls?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1259190]Whats in it for the girl if farang not willing to HELP? If girl just asks shouldn't guy just run anyway-kinda obvious what girl wants![/QUOTE]She already is being helped. Farang pays the rent, pays the bills, pays the food, pays for everything when they go out. If they met in a bar, chances are that her education level is low enough that she is already being given a life (at least economically) far better than anything she has ever known. If she wants more, tell her to go out and GET A JOB, try being useful, and try showing her farang that she is actually a prize well worth keeping and that she has something to contribute to the relationship other than the space between her legs.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259230]There are many NE TH / Isaan villages where very few, or no, women go to work as prostitutes. How do you explain this?
There are many Thai prostitutes that are not from Isaan. Thai men actually prefer women from north Thailand, and the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.
You could write a dissertation (and many have) about the roots of poverty in Thailand. Your statement,"the only marketable commodity for many (Isaan) families is their daughters' pussies," is a very simplistic view of reality.
Every "working" Thai woman I've met and gotten to know has a different story.[/QUOTE]Well agreed, a bit too simplistic and there are a lot of different realities. I have been to many of the Thai massage places on Petchaburi or Ratchada where a papasan has told me that a girl is from Chiang Mai, only to get to the room and discover that she is from Udon or Buriram. And while it is true that the general mid-Hi so Thai spec is white skin and northern, there are plenty of mid-Hi so Thai men out there with Isaan giks, gf's, mia nois, and ST companions. I was up at the Saphan Kwai gogos awhile back and was surprised to see that 80% of the girls looked more or less exactly like the girls at Nana or Cowboy, not necessarily more white skinned, prettier, classier, or anything else. Conversely, many northern girls have asked me why farang don't like them, or why farang like dark skin. I always tell them that in general, farang are probably a bit less discerning than their Thai counterparts. Farang like women who are nice to them, make them laugh, have a good heart, and are fun to be with. In general, especially when the girl is good looking, skin color or tone is probably much further down the line in importance. However. 95% of the farang in Bangkok go to Nana / Cowboy areas to find their women, and probably 90% plus or minus of the girls who go to work in these places are from Isaan. And there is probably a higher percentage of girls from Isaan who happen to have darker skin. If Nana was full of white skinned Chiang Mai / Rai hotties, I am sure farang would be just as busy seducing them as anyone else.
Isaan does have the most rural poverty in the country, but as Fon Dok says, not all villages nor Isaan girls become prostitutes or look for farang, same as not all Isaan people become maids, taxi drivers, som tam sellers, or so forth. I have said some of the worst things about girls from Isaan and have certainly met some 100% stereotypes of the evil hooker, and some of my best Thai friends are also from Isaan and are some of the most decent, hardworking, nicest people you will ever meet.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259293]If Thais ranging from waitresses up to high government officials were not making significant money off of it, much more than they could make from the local industry, Cowboy and Pattaya would be shut down and cease to exist.[/QUOTE]By the same reasoning the "local" sex scene would then have ceased to exist long ago already. I am not convinced by your arguments.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259322]Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The domestic business is huge compared to the tourist business.
Ever been to Ratchadaphisek Road?
[url]http://www.bangkoksite.com/entertainment/Ratchadapisek.htm[/url]
There are karaoke bars, massage shops, and brothels in just about every Thai city and town. The tourist business is limited to a handful of well lit, well known locales.[/QUOTE]Every town does seem to have karaoke, massage and brothels but that does not mean that large sums of money are being made. If you look at most of the establishments in non-tourist areas (the ones with no English signage) , you will generally see that they do not get very packed. We all also know that locals generally pay significantly less than non-locals, something that strongly impacts the bottom line. For example, if 100 local men pay $10 / girl and non-local men are charged $100 / girl, the volume of local men will be higher but the amount of money made from them will not be.
I doubt that any of us could prove it with hard numbers, short of investing in establishments for locals only and for anyone to have access to the books, but I strongly believe that tourists / ex-pats spend more on the sex trade than locals.
Some local men that I have met (full disclosure I have not talked to that many) told me that they rarely use those places. In contrast I have met expats who claim to go through more than 200 women / year. In cases where a local (someone I befriended and had no financial stake in taking me) has taken me to a brothel or massage place, in only 1 out of the 7 times did they partake and he was only 19 which may have explained it.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]You are wrong on this one and Fon Tok is right, the domestic business is way bigger. And older. I read a book about this years ago, I can't remember the stats now but it was something like 90% domestic to 10% tourists. Not even close.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1259627]You are wrong on this one and Fon Tok is right, the domestic business is way bigger. And older. I read a book about this years ago, I can't remember the stats now but it was something like 90% domestic to 10% tourists. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Correct. The farang scene is nothing compared to the scene for the Thais. There are brothel all over this country.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1259635]Correct. The farang scene is nothing compared to the scene for the Thais. There are brothel all over this country.[/QUOTE]They must very un-noticeable to the average farang.
Last night I was walking in the proximity of Soi 22 and noticed a spa massage where only Thai were getting out of it.
So indeed there are!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1259651]They must very un-noticeable to the average farang.
Last night I was walking in the proximity of Soi 22 and noticed a spa massage where only Thai were getting out of it.
So indeed there are![/QUOTE]Most farang never get out of the tourist areas. Most Thai places are not in tourist areas.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1259669]Most farang never get out of the tourist areas. Most Thai places are not in tourist areas.[/QUOTE]Last week, I was driving on the highway on the perimeter of a small city, Uthomphon Pisai, in Sisaket Province (Isaan). There were 8 or 10 karaoke "lady bars" in about a 1000 meter stretch of highway, and more in the town.
I've traveled all over Thailand. You are never far from a "lady bar," wherever you might go! If you know what to look for, how to act, and speak a little Thai, you can always find sex.
Amazing Thailand.
It's the same all over Asia by the way. In China brothels are freaking everywhere. 99, 9% of them for locals.
Question about opening times: what time do go-gos (Nana & Cowboy) actually open? I've always been after 9PM so I'm not sure. Is there an official time where all girls have to be there to start work? Do they trickle in over a few hours?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1259756]Question about opening times: what time do go-gos (Nana & Cowboy) actually open? I've always been after 9PM so I'm not sure. Is there an official time where all girls have to be there to start work? Do they trickle in over a few hours?[/QUOTE]I don't know about Nana but on Cowboy the official start for the girls to arrive is about 8PM in the Go go's. You will see a few early arrivals before and the two or three bars that are not Go go's are going all afternoon.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1259397]Where exactly is this place? How much are the girls?[/QUOTE]I have not been personally, was told about it by a friend who was working in Bangkok, a client took him, he said it was not all that expensive compared to the other thai places on ratchadaphisek, not sure but maybe it was Poseidon?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1259756]Question about opening times: what time do go-gos (Nana & Cowboy) actually open? I've always been after 9PM so I'm not sure. Is there an official time where all girls have to be there to start work? Do they trickle in over a few hours?[/QUOTE]I would say after 7pm action starts, but probably gets more live after 8pm.
You see the girls already arriving at 5 and 6, some go to the hairdresser, some get their make up, some indulge at the food stalls and all of them say a little prayer to Buddha.
The monks come in the morning, tho'
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1259602]Every town does seem to have karaoke, massage and brothels but that does not mean that large sums of money are being made. If you look at most of the establishments in non-tourist areas (the ones with no English signage) , you will generally see that they do not get very packed. We all also know that locals generally pay significantly less than non-locals, something that strongly impacts the bottom line. For example, if 100 local men pay $10 / girl and non-local men are charged $100 / girl, the volume of local men will be higher but the amount of money made from them will not be.
I doubt that any of us could prove it with hard numbers, short of investing in establishments for locals only and for anyone to have access to the books, but I strongly believe that tourists / ex-pats spend more on the sex trade than locals.
Some local men that I have met (full disclosure I have not talked to that many) told me that they rarely use those places. In contrast I have met expats who claim to go through more than 200 women / year. In cases where a local (someone I befriended and had no financial stake in taking me) has taken me to a brothel or massage place, in only 1 out of the 7 times did they partake and he was only 19 which may have explained it.[/QUOTE]I've seen bored hungry girls sitting outside Thai karaoke places all over small towns of Thailand. They weren't doing much working. Thais just don't have the disposable income that farangs on holiday do.
Being known as the world's brothel is an embarrassment for many Thais. Cowboy and Pattaya are allowed to remain open only because they make so much money, which many people have their hand in.
Farangs who tell you vague stories about the secret Thai-only places that only they know about are generally just trying to impress newbies.
LOL-is this it?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259826]Farangs who tell you vague stories about the secret Thai-only places that only they know about are generally just trying to impress newbies.[/QUOTE]See [url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/reader/reader291.html:[/url]
Quote: "Compared to the survey which indicates that every day at least 450, 000 Thai men visit prostitutes, the "farang" component represents only 10% of the total daily visits to prostitutes in Thailand."
The figure is roughly the same as what I read years ago in an academic publication.
It's not about the mythical Thai place in Soi whatever that has the most beauties on earth, it's about the thousands of small places all across the country. It adds up.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259826]I've seen bored hungry girls sitting outside Thai karaoke places all over small towns of Thailand. They weren't doing much working. Thais just don't have the disposable income that farangs on holiday do.[/QUOTE]That is true if you paint a broad brush, but the Thais that do go to the karaoke places do have money. I own several Thai only karaoke places in different areas of Thailand. The average check for a table of two men is around $60 US. That will include dinner, a bottle of booze, and tips for the singers. As a whole the men do not take the ladies home, they only come to party with the girls and then everyone goes home alone. On an average night I will have 20 ladies, and perhaps 2 will go home with a customer. So, the money is out there, but not everyone has it.
i came across this old post from 09 while doing a search and i'm quoting it below because it's pretty informative, it will be useful for new guys.
it's also the first time i hear about the 10, 000 baths lifetime barfine. is that accurate?
[quote=andybkk; 901204]i haven't posted for a while, so i thought i would add something to this forum.
many guys come to bkk for the very first time and experience the awesomeness of the go-go bars here, but have many misconceptions of how the bars functions. here's a short list of what you need to know about them in no particular order of importance.
-all of the girls "must" come to work. the girls and the mamason all get 2 days off each month. if they do not show up to work they will have to pay for the bar fine that day, usually 600b.
-most of the girls will come on time 6:30-7pm. if they are late they will be fined by the bar, resulting in a deduction in salary.
-it is better to tip than buy a lady drink. here's why, the bars normally charge 120-160 for a lady drink. she only gets 50b of that, so i usually buy one drink if press for another one by the manager, i'd refuse, instead i would slip the girl a 100b note that will get her to smile.
-girls who are bar-fined for short time will come back, not all but a lot will. when i first went there i read somewhere on this forum that once a lady gets bar-fined she can not return back to work for the night that is false info. so it is better to go early if you want the "first shot".
-thai girls, even girls working in go-go bars are extremely jealous. if you go with one, one night and return to go with another, don't expect her to be please with you. she might refuse to go with you again ever because you have made her "lose face" in front of her bar friends. so if she really like a girl and you want to repeat with her, simply avoid her bar for that night. she will understand.
-thai girls love teddy-bears, then again all girls do. 300-400b can get you a lot in return, so it is a good return on your investment. remember a lot of customers tip, but not many give gifts. besides she can look at the bear and long for the day you will return to thailand. (yeah, right.) freebies will be had if you do this.
-the staff, mamason, and girls working in the bars will lie bluntly to you about everything and anything. for example, i was in a nana bar when i notice a really good looking girl sitting with another customer. so the moment the customer leaves i motioned for her to come sit with me. granted i was drunk, but i came to realized that "she" was a "he". a very good looking "he", but nevertheless, a "he". i asked the servers and the mamason about this and i was repeatably assured "there are no lady boys working here". well, i did not pay the bar fine and went to another bar, only to fine out from other girls i know who used to work in that bar that there are lady boys. so be warned, trust no one, not even yourself.
-there's a 10, 000b lifetime bar-fine. if you plan to spend a little time in thailand and have decided to spend it with your sexy new friend. you should do the calculations.
if you plan on spending more than 16 days with her, you should ask the mamason about the 10k life-time bar fine for her. this means that for as long as the girl stays with you, you're covered. even on the next time you come to thailand.
i would only do this if you are sure that the girl is someone you want to spend a lot of time with. i have done this on one occasion and the investment is worth it.
for the girl, it is a honor to have a customer paid this amount. so she will be very pleased with you.
this works in most go-go bars. just ask the mamason.
-the mamason / staff / girls will try to squeeze you for tips. say no. there's no shame in it because it is there job to squeeze you and it is your choice to say no.
-a lot of girls like simple food, so do take them to fancy places where they will feel out of place and can not eat the food. i can not recall how many times a girl i am with will tell me about a unpleasant experience eating sushi, mcdonalds, arabic food. (i like all time of food) just take them to a nice thai restaurant and feed them, if you want, otherwise send them home, so they can get their papaya salad. (this alone will save you a lot of money)
-most (almost all) girls are looking for sponsors, who will spend them money each money, so they can brag to their girls-friends about it. so be warned.
-dancers are paid 7-10, 000b per month, waitress are paid 5000b-6000b per month. 50b paid to the lady for a lady drink. mamason are paid 15, 000b per month.
-you can bar-fined the waitresses. many will go with you, the only reason why they don't dance is because they're either too shy to or don't know how.
-the many girls are **** in the go-go bars, so if this is a concern check their ids. this year is 2552 for the buddhist calendar, so do the math. (if the police shows up and your girl runs and hide in the back, then she's ****) you don't need to worry, the police are their to collect their bribe money. they will not even look at you.
-most are either in a relationship or looking to get into one with a thai guy. many girls will lie about their "brother", who is actually their thai bf. if your thai girl has a brother / male cousin living with her or just hangs around, then you will know. thai girls do not live with brother / male cousin alone! (i've been fooled by this.)
-you can not rescue them. simply because they do not want you to rescue them. some of these go-go bars girls enjoy a carefree lifestyle and i have seen many sponsor expect them to stay home and not go out at night. unless you are living here, this will not happen, so please get that out of your head. the relationship will end with you being called a controlling freak (no offense, i've been called that once or twice)
-now and then a thai girl, who is working in a go-go will fall in love with you for one reason or another. these reasons can be genuine so you can open your heart if you want. the choice is up to you.
i hope my article will save you from reading some mis-information and give you a better understanding of the underbelly of bangkok go-go bars. i don't have much insider experience for pattaya, but my guess is that most of what i've written here can be apply there too.
i apologized for the many errors in grammar and spelling.
i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please.
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1259844]See.
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/reader/reader291.html:[/url]
Quote: "Compared to the survey which indicates that every day at least 450, 000 Thai men visit prostitutes, the "farang" component represents only 10% of the total daily visits to prostitutes in Thailand."
The figure is roughly the same as what I read years ago in an academic publication.
It's not about the mythical Thai place in Soi whatever that has the most beauties on earth, it's about the thousands of small places all across the country. It adds up.[/QUOTE]
That's volume of visits. It says nothing about money, which is what this discussion is about.
Farang areas generate much more money because prices are much higher, and much more is spent on drinks and barfines.
All the guys coming into this forum and bragging about the Climax girl they gave 3000 baht to for a night is a clear indication of that. Even forgetting about all the money that was spent on drinks before that, it takes about 5 or 6 Thai men visiting a brothel to match it.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1259863]That is true if you paint a broad brush, but the Thais that do go to the karaoke places do have money. I own several Thai only karaoke places in different areas of Thailand. The average check for a table of two men is around $60 US. That will include dinner, a bottle of booze, and tips for the singers. As a whole the men do not take the ladies home, they only come to party with the girls and then everyone goes home alone. On an average night I will have 20 ladies, and perhaps 2 will go home with a customer. So, the money is out there, but not everyone has it.[/QUOTE]
Sure, there's just not enough of it to compete with all the tourists flocking in to blow their holiday money.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1260031]That's volume of visits. It says nothing about money, which is what this discussion is about. Farang areas generate much more money because prices are much higher, and much more is spent on drinks and barfines, which most Thai brothels don't deal with.[/QUOTE]Nope.
Tourist entertainment areas, (not only for farang, BTW) , just have brighter lights.
The Thai only venues in Bangkok (usually soapies) are often in large buildings that look like hotels. One of these business might be larger than all the bars in Cowboy (in square meters). And, there a number of these very large places. Ever take the motorway out to BKK at night? You can see them from the road.
Cowboy, Nana, Patpong are very small. Pattaya is spread out, but mongers are a small percentage of the visitors these days. Mongers that prefer to go there are either keen golfers, or members of the "Cheap Charles" species. That leaves Samui, Patong, Chiang Mai, and a few other isolated locales that have services for tourists.
Boner, you're over your head with this one. Give it up. :)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260035]Nope.
Tourist entertainment areas, (not only for farang, BTW) , just have brighter lights.
The Thai only venues in Bangkok (usually soapies) are often in large buildings that look like hotels. One of these business might be larger than all the bars in Cowboy (in square meters). And, there a number of these very large places. Ever take the motorway out to BKK at night? You can see them from the road.
Cowboy, Nana, Patpong are very small. Pattaya is spread out, but mongers are a small percentage of the visitors these days. Mongers that prefer to go there are either keen golfers, or members of the "Cheap Charles" species. That leaves Samui, Patong, Chiang Mai, and a few other isolated locales that have services for tourists.
Boner, you're over your head with this one. Give it up. .[/QUOTE]You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are. You've said nothing to refute that.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260037]You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are.[/QUOTE]Plenty of Thais have buckets of money and spend it on women. And, there's a lot more of them out there on any given night than tourist visitors.
Thais drink a lot more whiskey than foreigners, eat food when they go to clubs, and "take" more women & men than foreigners (usually to rooms on site). That's money in the bank for Thai business operators and the mafia (read: police and army).
And, as far as using "square meters of buildings" as a way to gauge income generation? That is how real estate economists estimate income.
You obviously know very little about this topic. Just go and get laid, if you can, and do some homework. Bye. ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260050]Plenty of Thais have buckets of money and spend it on women. And, there's a lot more of them out there on any given night than tourist visitors.
Thais drink a lot more whiskey than foreigners, eat food when they go to clubs, and "take" more women & men than foreigners (usually to rooms on site). That's money in the bank for Thai business operators and the mafia (read: police and army).
And, as far as using "square meters of buildings" as a way to gauge income generation? That is how real estate economists estimate income.
You obviously know very little about this topic. Just go and get laid, if you can, and do some homework. Bye. .[/QUOTE]Correct. Thai men spend vast amounts of money on gals. Would put the majority of Farangs and other Asians to shame. Spending money in droves gives "face," and the wealthy will spend spend spend. They will also support girls with apartments and cars. Take a look at the parking lots of most G-Clubs. The Benzes and BMWs belong to the customers and the Toyotas to the girls that work there.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260037]You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are. You've said nothing to refute that.[/QUOTE]Have you been to RCA, Thonglor, Rachada, or to Ekkamai? Perhaps to any of the G-Clubs around town? About all Thais and all Thais spending way more money than most Farangs. This is not the same city I moved to 12 years ago. Salaries for Thais are through the roof and they are spending it.
Farang are a drop in the bucket when it comes to nightlife in Bangkok. Losing that biz would not really effect most of the nightlife venues in this town.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260031]That's volume of visits. It says nothing about money, which is what this discussion is about.
Farang areas generate much more money because prices are much higher, and much more is spent on drinks and barfines.
All the guys coming into this forum and bragging about the Climax girl they gave 3000 baht to for a night is a clear indication of that. Even forgetting about all the money that was spent on drinks before that, it takes about 5 or 6 Thai men visiting a brothel to match it.
Sure, there's just not enough of it to compete with all the tourists flocking in to blow their holiday money.[/QUOTE]More expensive? No way. Thai clubs and discos are far more expensive drink wise than what you see in Farang areas. Yes, there are some cheap places to have a beer, but 180 baht is the norm on Ekkamai or Thonglor. Not to mention that most buy bottles and they also buy food. When it comes to P4P the average Thai man will spend far more on the girl before he closes the deal. The good looking girls are not looking for a 3k ST, they are looking for a "sponsor."
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1260061]Correct. Thai men spend vast amounts of money on gals. Would put the majority of Farangs and other Asians to shame. Spending money in droves gives "face," and the wealthy will spend spend spend. They will also support girls with apartments and cars. Take a look at the parking lots of most G-Clubs. The Benzes and BMWs belong to the customers and the Toyotas to the girls that work there.[/QUOTE]Your talking about upper middle and upper class Thai men here. Although, what you state is true, I wouldn't hold it as a benchmark for normal thai spending on prostitution. In fact I know places in BKK where middle class thais pay 800ST.
Lets look at the average massage parlour (nation wide) prices that services the average thai guy. A run of the mill fuck will cost a Thai somewhere between 1200-2000 for a ST 2 hour fuck. Now compare that with the average amount a foreinger spends in a touristy area (excluding drinks) : barfine 600 + 1500/2000 ST =2100/2600. Or maybe a beer bar; barfine 300 + 1000 =1300. Who spends more?
seeing that i used this site extensively in planning my current trip, i thought it only fair that i post a quick trip report.
i flew in very late at night but fortunately immigration was much faster than i had been expecting and customs was pretty much a joke. *consequently, i managed to make it on the very last train into town bang on midnight. *i jumped off at makkasan and grabbed a taxi over to soi 4. *checked in, quick shower and was back on the street at a bit after 1am. *nana and the surrounding streets were pumping but i was pretty knackered and really just wanted to grab a girl and hit the sack. *i walked the length of soi 4 to sukhumvit and on the return leg, saw a cute fl in the nana carpark. *she wasn't a stunner but had a great little body and a really friendly sexy demeanor which counts for a lot in my book. *i grabbed her for 1400 lt down from a starting price of 2000 (she later told me that i was her first customer for the night and that things are apparently quite slow at the moment). *back in the room, we showered and had dfk, mutual uncovered oral and coved sex. *we went to sleep but i tossed and turned for a few hours due to jetlag and having a stranger in the bed. *we had round two at about 5am which involved fingering, a hand job and covered sex. *i really wanted to try and get some decent sleep and suggested that she go home which she did after another shower. *
after finally getting up, i did a bit of sightseeing before making my way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] at around mid-day. *there was around ten very friendly and eager girls out front but i selected a cute and busty little number called mew. *having already popped twice, she had her work cut out for her but managed the job like a superstar. *excellent enthusiastic effort and just 700 baht. *
after some more sightseeing and a very 'friendly' oil masage where i declined all of the extras on offer, i finished up at nep around 5pm. *watched the hordes of girls trickle in and eat, pray and preen themselves. *i had a few beers in a couple of different bars before settling in at angelwitch. *they had what i thought to be an excellent selection although the bored dance / shuffling on the stage was a bit of a let down. *i met the mamasan who did a great job introducing me to various girls and trying to find the right match for me. *funnily enough, it was a short, slightly pudgy and busty waitress who really caught my eye and the girls all went wild with cheers and laughter when i asked if she was able to be barfined. *the deal was done and after paying for my drinks and the 600 baht barfine, we went back to my hotel. *she turned out to be anything but the innocent wallflower i had been expecting and put in a great performance that involved dfk, uncovered mutual oral and covered sex. *i had really wanted to go for lt but i got the impression that the mamasan had talked her out of it and so it ended up being short time only. *total damage of 1000 baht plus 600 barfine. *probably a bit expensive but still great fun. *so all up it was three girls, four pops. 3700 baht and a hell of a great first day in bangkok.
can anyone recommend a place for more enthusiastic western-style dancing. i'd also be keen for recommendations for full nudity and a place where i could catch one of the more extreme sex shows without getting scammed.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1260095]Your talking about upper middle and upper class Thai men here. Although, what you state is true, I wouldn't hold it as a benchmark for normal thai spending on prostitution. In fact I know places in BKK where middle class thais pay 800ST.
Lets look at the average massage parlour (nation wide) prices that services the average thai guy. A run of the mill fuck will cost a Thai somewhere between 1200-2000 for a ST 2 hour fuck. Now compare that with the average amount a foreinger spends in a touristy area (excluding drinks) : barfine 600 + 1500/2000 ST =2100/2600. Or maybe a beer bar; barfine 300 + 1000 =1300. Who spends more?[/QUOTE]Good points.
But, for the sake of this discussion (the TH "entertainment" business versus foreigner), remember that there are XX million Thai men who do this year round (quite few just in Bangkok).
Compared to what? Maybe XXX thousand mongering foreigners, (farang, asian, black, middle eastern, indian), who come here for a week, or two, mainly in high season. Many of them are older and only "play" every other day, or so, if at all!
And, we all know that the foreign guys that live here are careful with their cheese! ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260122]Good points.
But, for the sake of this discussion (the TH "entertainment" business versus foreigner) , remember that there are XX million Thai men who do this year round (quite few just in Bangkok).
Compared to what? Maybe XXX thousand mongering foreigners, (farang, asian, black, middle eastern, indian) , who come here for a week, or two, mainly in high season. Many of them are older and only "play" every other day, or so, if at all!
And, we all know that the foreign guys that live here are careful with their cheese! .[/QUOTE]I've heard Thai men don't have much of a sex drive & that once a month is all they need. Probably just some ridiculous gossip, eh?
"Rather than add more numbers to these lists our research looked at the official Thai government estimates of the numbers of sex workers in Thailand. The Thai government largely bases its estimates on the number of Entertainment Place registrations and the number of sex workers visiting government STI clinics (Sexually Transmitted Infection) via records and mapping. We found that only about one third of our workplaces have ever been registered. We also found many of us are not part of the government health service register, as we choose to use private health clinics. So the official figures are likely to be lower than reality. Still government estimates of 200, 000 to 300, 000 19 feel a lot closer to our reality than the wild numbers put forward by some groups e. G. 800, 000 to 2. 6 million! [p. 10]
"Another measure of the size of our industry is the amount of revenue we generate. In 2003, the Thai sex industry was said to yield an annual income of US$4. 3 billion which is likely to have increased significantly over the last 8 years, as the Thai economy and tourism sector has developed. 20.
"Much of the tourism industry is dependent on the sex industry which has been estimated to make up around 7 percent of national GDP. More than rice exports. 21 [p. 10]
"As far back as 1998 it was estimated that sex workers in urban areas of Thailand sent close to USD300 million annually to our rural families, a sum that exceeded the budgets of government-funded development programs. 22 This amount will have also increased significantly over the last decade. Migrant sex workers are also sending huge amounts of money to their home communities. Migrant sex workers working on this research project all send between 15 to 26% of their monthly income home to their families. [p. 10-11]"
[url]http://www.chezstella.org/stella/Hit-and-Run-RATSW.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260035]Nope.
Tourist entertainment areas, (not only for farang, BTW) , just have brighter lights.
The Thai only venues in Bangkok (usually soapies) are often in large buildings that look like hotels. One of these business might be larger than all the bars in Cowboy (in square meters). And, there a number of these very large places. Ever take the motorway out to BKK at night? You can see them from the road.
Cowboy, Nana, Patpong are very small. Pattaya is spread out, but mongers are a small percentage of the visitors these days. Mongers that prefer to go there are either keen golfers, or members of the "Cheap Charles" species. That leaves Samui, Patong, Chiang Mai, and a few other isolated locales that have services for tourists.
Boner, you're over your head with this one. Give it up. .[/QUOTE]By "Thai only venues" aren't some of these really "farangs not allowed venues"? In another words, only Thai and Japanese and other east asians allowed.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1260095]Your talking about upper middle and upper class Thai men here. Although, what you state is true, I wouldn't hold it as a benchmark for normal thai spending on prostitution. In fact I know places in BKK where middle class thais pay 800ST.
Lets look at the average massage parlour (nation wide) prices that services the average thai guy. A run of the mill fuck will cost a Thai somewhere between 1200-2000 for a ST 2 hour fuck. Now compare that with the average amount a foreinger spends in a touristy area (excluding drinks) : barfine 600 + 1500/2000 ST =2100/2600. Or maybe a beer bar; barfine 300 + 1000 =1300. Who spends more?[/QUOTE]I would agree with your point, however as stated by Fon Tok, there are far more Thai men "partaking" then Farang, so the total spend is much higher. Also, I would sau the spend in G-Clubs is far more, and the money they tend to spend at regular clubs trying to impress "good girls" is up there as well. Added together way more than the total spent by us foreign devils.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1257431]Thaiair is fine but, try Singaporeair, outstanding! I have flown Japanese airlines, they are so so.[/QUOTE]ANA flight staff are warm and friendly, but I found that JAL too cold and distant for mine.
I'd be willing to bet the blue collar / lower class Thais alone spend more baht than the falangs. Some of those Thai long haul drivers get high on yaba not only to stay awake, but to have enough time to make a deposit at the brothel on route to their destination.
A far more compelling argument is what smells worse, a Thai construction worker who just worked a 10 hour shift, or an Indian man who just took a shower.
[quote=fon tok;1260035]the thai only venues in bangkok (usually soapies) are often in large buildings that look like hotels. one of these business might be larger than all the bars in cowboy (in square meters). and, there a number of these very large places. ever take the motorway out to bkk at night? you can see them from the road.)[/quote]not to mention the hundreds of little two or three or four girl shops that service the local trade in areas like thonburi and khlong toei slum which cater to the less affluent thai men and teenagers in rather dismal clapbooard and sheet metal shacks and on the roofs of buildings etc. locals can get laid in these places for very cheap prices by surprisingly attractive (and sadly often ****) service providers.
there is a lot of pfp sex going on in siam that has nothing to do with tourism. farangs never see this side of the industry unless they are very good friends with or family of (married to) local people.
my ex'es brother has taken me to places where we both got some for 300b from very attractive girls on many occasions. while i was still marrried to his sister! up in the tiny villages in the sticks of issaan you can still find these prices if you are connected to a local.
[quote=nekama;1260119]can anyone recommend a place for more enthusiastic western-style dancing. i'd also be keen for recommendations for full nudity and a place where i could catch one of the more extreme sex shows without getting scammed.[/quote]soi cowboy has full nudity in several a-gogos such as suzie wong. in between the "bangkok shuffle" line-up shows they have choreographed shows (oil massage, body painting, fake-lesbian show, .) and some "pussy" shows with girls pulling flowers or ribbons out of their pussies. nothing really extreme however.
actually i like the "bangkok shuffle" best since the girls are nude and allow you a good peek at them and you can call them over at any time. the girls in a choreographed show will not come to you until the show ends, so it is always a bit of a hit-and-miss thing to get her before another monger intercepts her.
[QUOTE=Naughty;1260240]My ex'es brother has taken me to places where we both got some for 300B from very attractive girls on many occasions.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is the classic upcountry "song" = no-frills brothel. Normally not quite indentured labour, but not far off it. They were usually about B50 when I was starting out, which seemed quite wonderful for a guy who was young, horny, and poor. But eventually they got depressing. The girls are young and, as you say, they can be remarkably pretty. But not surprisingly they generally seem like a pretty unhappy lot. Eventually I realized that for a bit more money I could find girls higher up the commercial sex food chain (for example at op ap nuat places) who were considerably happier. So I can't very well condemn them, since they provided me with years of sleazy fun, but they really are aimed at locals who want to get laid as cheaply as possible rather than those of us who want a somewhat nicer all around experience.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260037]You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are. You've said nothing to refute that.[/QUOTE]Well Gentleboner,
You complain that the girls I was with are average and I spend too much but where are your pictures? We have not seen any yet? Now to the point in question. I frequent.
Nataree, a popular massage place. It is known for having young Thai girls with white skin. The girls start at 1800-2000 for one pop in the fish bowl and 2200-3600 for the sideline girls.
The majority of customers I see there are Thai. For every Farang there is 10 Thai customers. They are drinking and usually spending money like crazy on the sideline girls, the more expensive ones. The building beside the Nataree complex is a high end massage for Thai men. I frequently see expensive cars, men in suits entering and exiting. One day I popped in and was able to talk with the popa son. He said they normally don't let Farang in but they will make exceptions if they are dressed well. He commented most Farangs try to come in with shorts, t shirts, and sandals LOL. I think this holds true for most Thai places don't let foreigners in very often. A perfect example is our friend here Gentleboner. Always complaining about prices. Thais will spend a lot more for quality then most Farangs. What about the G clubs? Thais will spend 3-5000Baht just to sit and drink with a girl for the evening, and then maybe more to take her home after. Many members complain on here about prices, do you think the Thais have a forum like this? If they do do you think they complain about high prices? Of course not. If they see a girl they like then they pay whatever it takes. It is common sense. Whatever your budget is you go to a place that is within that budget. Why make yourself look cheap by going to a high end place and offering below the market price there? Gentleboner you can't go shopping at Central malls and expect to pay night market prices. * Just a note for admin. I posted this using the Google chrome browser. When posting the text does not wrap around like normal. Have the words appears on the upper line and the other half on the lower line. This could be the reason for the hard returns on some posts. Instead of pressing return I just pressed the space bar until the word moved to the next line, hope that helps!
I'm checking out google maps for Khlong Toei, is it at all possible to just trawl the streets and get invited
Or would a farang not speaking thai just get robbed and left to go home empty handed?
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1260558]Well Gentleboner,
The majority of customers I see there are Thai. For every Farang there is 10 Thai customers.[/QUOTE]From 1983 to about 2005, I regularly visited LOS . Average 3 or 4 visits to BKK per year. And always go out with my local Thai friends to the Soapy MP.
You are absolutely on the ball. The percentage of locals to farangs is overwhelming. And more often than not, whereas farang picks from fishbowl, most locals take the sideliners. Patpong, Nana and Soi Cowboy rely on farangs and overseas visitors but the rest of the p4p relies primarily on locals. It's not even close!
If we're going to reference what upper class Thais spend at G-Clubs and soapies, it's only fair to compare them to what an upper class farang spends on women while visiting Thailand.
Would anyone care to claim it's less than 5000 in a night? I doubt it.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260750]If we're going to reference what upper class Thais spend at G-Clubs and soapies, it's only fair to compare them to what an upper class farang spends on women while visiting Thailand.
Would anyone care to claim it's less than 5000 in a night? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]I would venture the visitors from the regional asian countries [yes, including Japan and Korea] spend more than the farangs [yes, the Yanks, the Nobs and others].
I mean, we got guys here who say they never tip, or complain when other 'over-pay'. These same guys are the ones who want the best lookers, the best service and at the lowest prices. LOL.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1260750]If we're going to reference what upper class Thais spend at G-Clubs and soapies, it's only fair to compare them to what an upper class farang spends on women while visiting Thailand. Would anyone care to claim it's less than 5000 in a night? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]How many "upper class" farang visit Thailand for pussy? Maybe six.
It is obvious you know very little about what actually goes on in Thailand beyond Soi Bright Lights, and are just a persistent troll. :)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260762]How many "upper class" farang visit Thailand for pussy? Maybe six.
It is obvious you know very little about what actually goes on in Thailand beyond Soi Bright Lights, and are just a persistent troll. .[/QUOTE]Yes, only 6 rich farangs visit Thailand per year. That makes sense.
Personal attacks aren't a proper replacement for a good argument.
Clearly you're mad because I insulted farangs who marry an Isaan girl and support her family, which is likely what you're doing.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260764]Yes, only 6 rich farangs visit Thailand per year. That makes sense.
Personal attacks aren't a proper replacement for a good argument.
Clearly you're mad because I insulted farangs who marry an Isaan girl and support her family, which is likely what you're doing.[/QUOTE]Not mad. Or insulted. I've got a great family.
Humored. You knowledge of Thailand, is, well, not worth an argument. Never mind, troll onward my friend, troll onward. ;)
[QUOTE=Gorgon; 1260578]I'm checking out google maps for Khlong Toei, is it at all possible to just trawl the streets and get invited
Or would a farang not speaking thai just get robbed and left to go home empty handed?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great idea. Be sure to report back. If you can.
Just wondering if there are any burmese (myanmar) girls
Available in Bangkok. Bros who are experience in BKK, kindly share if you have any info ya.
Thank you very much.
[QUOTE=CrazyUSA; 1260913]Just wondering if there are any burmese (myanmar) girls
Available in Bangkok. Bros who are experience in BKK, kindly share if you have any info ya.
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]There used to be 3-4 regulars in the BG soi 7 who were Burmese, haven't seen them in awhile. Unless you spoke really good Thai, you wouldn't know they were Burmese and they wouldn't tell guys either.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260750]If we're going to reference what upper class Thais spend at G-Clubs and soapies, it's only fair to compare them to what an upper class farang spends on women while visiting Thailand.
Would anyone care to claim it's less than 5000 in a night? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]If your idea of upper class is spending approx 2200-3500Baht on a sideline girl at a soapy then you need to give your head a shake. I would hardly consider Nataree to be upper class An upper class massage place would be Poseidan where the girls start at 6000Baht.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1260762]How many "upper class" farang visit Thailand for pussy? Maybe six.[/QUOTE]I'm intrigued. Who are the other five?
I have seen some cute burmese girls in Indian restaurants on Suk 11 and Suk 8. Didn't have time to explore but looks like they are game. They seem to be working from 11am to 11pm, which might make it difficult to get them out. Also check with CD shops on the streets. They are mostly managed by Burmese guys. They will have some recommendation.
Hifly.
[QUOTE=CrazyUSA; 1260913]Just wondering if there are any burmese (myanmar) girls
Available in Bangkok. Bros who are experience in BKK, kindly share if you have any info ya.
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]
Google Street View added Thailand today, including a drive down Soi Cowboy (in the daytime). Image quality seems higher than usual, but they seem to have some magic that detects and blurs faces. Could be virtual beer goggles.
So far I have not found anybody mooning the Google-mobile, but there's always hope.
They did not drive down Soi 4 or Soi 33.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1260764]Personal attacks aren't a proper replacement for a good argument.[/QUOTE]What you write is clearly unaware to 90 percent of the forum, or at least those who have many years of experience.
You can disprove yourself very easily by taking a tour of Thailand and checking out enterntainment venues in every province.
Even if you visited a hundred Soapy Massage Parlours in and around Bangkok, you would see that most of the customers are Thai or at least East Asian.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1261185]What you write is clearly unaware to 90 percent of the forum, or at least those who have many years of experience.
You can disprove yourself very easily by taking a tour of Thailand and checking out enterntainment venues in every province.
Even if you visited a hundred Soapy Massage Parlours in and around Bangkok, you would see that most of the customers are Thai or at least East Asian.[/QUOTE]East Asians are foreigners.
All this talk of farang this vs thai this complain about price blahblahblah.
In case you haven't figured out WHY farangs complain about price:
They come to Thailand as a CHEAP (er) mongering destination.
The local thai guys. They are locals, obviously they are not complaining about the prices because THEY travel somewhere else for CHEAP mongering.
As for koreans and japanese, do they complain? You bet your ass they do, just not on ISG as this is generally an english speakers website.
If you think thai men, Hong kong guys, Chinese guys, korean guys, japanese guys, every country and every language guys do not have their own version of ISG where they complain about the exact same things including price and service. Well, I might just have pretty young beautiful girl waiting for you at the end of this dark alley!
The cycle goes on and on, sadly, I am leaving the Bangkok thread. In a place where the P4P scene is so open, theres nothing to discuss except for price vs service and the inevitable decline of one and the awful increase of the other. Until another spot becomes the new favorite.
I hear the mongering in africa is good.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1261197]East Asians are foreigners.[/QUOTE]Yes, but they are not "Farang". I shouldn't have mentioned them.
[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1261258]All this talk of farang this vs thai this complain about price blahblahblah.
In case you haven't figured out WHY farangs complain about price:
They come to Thailand as a CHEAP (er) mongering destination.[/QUOTE]The purpose of this thread is to share useful information about mongering in BKK. That should be obvious. It is not useful for guys to publish total nonsense or endless whinging about about others spoiling the market. Bangkok is not the cheapest place in the world for mongering. So to all those where price is paramount, I would suggest go elsewhere. I have heard you can get a girl, out of town who doesn't speak English, in Cambodia for $5. I am sure Africa is much cheaper too.
Okay would be nice to see good informational reports start to dominate this thread and others. Sensible questions allowed too, where answer is not toally obvious or very difficult to find out. Yes I am not the thread police, but I merely think its worth thinking about how a forum can be useful.
[quote=crazyusa;1260913]just wondering if there are any burmese (myanmar) girls[/quote]what does it matter what country she comes from? there are a wide variety of ethnic races in burma (myanmar) , so maybe you should be more specific about what types particularly appeal to you. i am only familiar with so called "thai yai" that come from the northern mountains close to china / tibet and are in conflict with and persecuted by burmese goverment / military. their language is slightly understandable to me with some similarities to issan and northern thai. there are huge numbers of thai yai that have fleed from myanmar into thailand in northern provinces like chiang rai, mae hong son, chiang mai. not sure if that many in bangkok these days, but i heard there is a hotel that employs them.
many small islands have burmese working their that don't speak thai, like koh tao, koh samet, for example. i didn't find these types of girls to be specially pretty, to my personal taste.
largely girls from other countries are not officially permitted to work in the sex industry and could be quickly deported. when thaksin came to power, many foreign girls and **** were expelled from the sex industry venues due to not having the right identity card, but they seem to be creeping back these days.
With all this talk about prices I was reading an article online yesterday that a street worker in Bangladesh is US $0. 60 or 60 cents. Haven't heard of much cheaper than that.
Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?
Nana bars where I regularly get girls for 1500 ST:
Spanky
Mandarin
Erotica (2d or 3d floor)
Share yours.
On a different note, I went into Hollywood in Nana today, it is just me or do the girls look and behave like ladyboys?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1261276]With all this talk about prices I was reading an article online yesterday that a street worker in Bangladesh is US $0. 60 or 60 cents. Haven't heard of much cheaper than that.[/QUOTE]And I can imagine the price police will be in action the minute somebody will admit having paid US$ 0. 99. As the market will be spoiled, being well over 50% the ongoing rate.
Interesting comments.
[QUOTE=]100% accurate. Thais spend billions of dollars on skin whitening products just to have the illusion of being white. Ridiculous, but that's the culture.
I live here in Bangkok in the Sukhumvit area.
The majority of non-tourist black people I observe milling arount in the streets of Sukhumvit are from Nigeria and other west Africa countries. They basically hang around slinging drugs (men) or street hooking (women.)
Regarding P4P, the majority of the Thai working girls here may still have problems dealing with men of color. The only color they should be concerned with is the color of green or in case of the 1000 baht note, cream. That's their hangup. The Russian bitches who are here might be a better option. Not sure. I stay clear of those types.
Male tourists who are black can find all sorts of cheap trim on Soi 4 Sukhumvit adjacent to Nana Hotel starting at about 1:00AM. Place is choke full of hot looking cheap young working girls at that hour. Easy picking.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TonyGoa;1261291]Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Friday evening between 5PM-7PM just hang out at the Asoke BTS stop and you'll see hundreds of beautiful MILF's getting off work. Good luck Mr Goa.
[QUOTE=TonyGoa;1261291]Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Just go to the Beer Garden on Soi 7. Lots of 30ish women in there.
I am sure any one of them will tell you they work in an office, if you like. ;)
[QUOTE=TonyGoa;1261291]Where do I get MILF type / office going women in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Many uzbek / Russian girls by Grace hotel are in their 30s and they will tell you that they have office jobs back home.
I got the same impression about Hollywood 2 days back.
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1261331]Nana bars where I regularly get girls for 1500 ST:
Spanky.
Mandarin.
Erotica (2d or 3d floor)
Share yours.
On a different note, I went into Hollywood in Nana today, it is just me or do the girls look and behave like ladyboys?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1261197]East Asians are foreigners.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1260037]You're talking about the square meters of buildings. What does that have to do with anything?
Thais are not spending the money on nightlife that farangs are. You've said nothing to refute that.[/QUOTE]How long have you lived in Bangkok for? East Asians are not considered Farangs! You did not say foreigners in your argument, you said Farangs. Give it up! Every place I go I see Thais spending more money. Again 3500 Baht is not an example of upper class. Places like Nataree, Tulip, Annies, and other massage places are not upper class. We were never discussing Thai G clubs, but places like Soi Cowboy, Nataree, and most of the average massage places. Still waiting for your photos of the cheap, young, and gorgeous ass you got for 500 BAHT, or are your photos too average LOL.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1261464]Just go to the Beer Garden on Soi 7. Lots of 30ish women in there.
I am sure any one of them will tell you they work in an office, if you like. .[/QUOTE]Actually Thailand is a place where office girls sometimes like to suppliment their income. There is a blurring of the division between hookers and office girls, because lots of part time hookers exist. In the west, girls go pick up a guy but do it for "free". In Thailand the girls may be short of money, so why not go pick up a guy and suppliment their low office pay as well. O.K. Its possible that some of these girls eventually give up their office job if the returns from the other method are better. I do understand that some girls may also bullshit that they work in an office, but real office girls hooking do exist. Most girls I met met myself doing a little freelance, also had other jobs, like shop assistant, telephone switchboard operator, factory worker, etc. I don't claim to have had many office workers myself but aware they exist. If you ask the girls, some will know who is an office worker. Some office girls become MP workers part time in the evening. Some do escort work. I don't use escorts myself for various reasons. Alternatively you might be able to find girls that dress like an office worker and maybe that is good enough for your fantasy. For me, looks and performance matters more than how intellegent she is and her social standing.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1261426]Some guys just don't get it!
No such thing as hot looking cheap and young. LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually, the parking lot last night at 1130 did have a fairly impressive array of hot, cheap, and young. However their attitudes leave loads to be desired. The majority of them want to go across the street for all of ten minutes and deliver starfish impersonations, so at 1000 a pop, actually not the best of deals.
[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1261258]All this talk of farang this vs thai this complain about price blahblahblah.
In case you haven't figured out WHY farangs complain about price:
They come to Thailand as a CHEAP (er) mongering destination.
The local thai guys. They are locals, obviously they are not complaining about the prices because THEY travel somewhere else for CHEAP mongering.
As for koreans and japanese, do they complain? You bet your ass they do, just not on ISG as this is generally an english speakers website.
If you think thai men, Hong kong guys, Chinese guys, korean guys, japanese guys, every country and every language guys do not have their own version of ISG where they complain about the exact same things including price and service. Well, I might just have pretty young beautiful girl waiting for you at the end of this dark alley!
The cycle goes on and on, sadly, I am leaving the Bangkok thread. In a place where the P4P scene is so open, theres nothing to discuss except for price vs service and the inevitable decline of one and the awful increase of the other. Until another spot becomes the new favorite.
I hear the mongering in africa is good.[/QUOTE]The reason the Thai guys don't complain is because at most of their venues, they get good service, it is expected and guaranteed. At most of the Thai massage places I frequent, you get at least 2 pops in 2 hours, and the girls don't spend time telling you what you can't do. Contrast that with Sukhumvit girls who ask for more money (Thai massage places on Phetburi run 1300-1900 all in for 2 hours, whereas Cowboy and Nana you will be fighting to get 1500 ST plus the lady drinks plus the barfine of 6-700) and then come home and pull the starfish or jakajee or yai maak jep routine. And obviously in the Sukhumvit scene, plenty of guys must put up with it because the girls know they can get away with it. I once had a non performer in a Thai massage place. I promptly picked up the phone, called the papasan, and within 5 minutes, I had a new girl in the room.
ok, it's long overdue for me to write the trip report for my january bkk and pattaya trip. before i forget all of the details, and before i go back over easter:
i'm breaking report into chunks, as otherwise the post will fill most of a page. so, here is the first night and second day:
after arriving in late in bangkok fairly late at night, i met with a friend made through thaifriendly at my hotel. she was fairly attractive (but not to the standard i would date back home) , also in her early to mid 30s, and in a fairly well paying (for thailand) office job. i was surprised (and pleased) that she had an overnight bag packed to stay over, as she did not seem that forward on webcam chats we had done up to that stage. she gave me a welcome gift, took me out to a late dinner (her shout, even though i insisted) , then for drinks to meet some of her friends. most of the conversations from her friends were about how young and handsome i am (true to an extent, but not close to the extent they were saying) , and how great their friend was if i was looking for a thai girlfriend. the night was fun, and although i tried to be generous with drinks, i did not spend too much money as the girls kept also insisting on buying rounds as well.
later, back at my hotel we did not get past kissing and groping before she said she was not the kind of girl to "go all the way on a first date" (which she really did not seem to be (she was only on thaifriendly for about 3 weeks before complaining that most men just contacted her to try and have sex-cam chats) , though it could also have been seeing my pasty white body semi-naked that put her off. hopefully she didn't tell her friends if this was the case) , so we went to sleep. the next morning we had breakfast in the executive lounge of the hotel i was staying (a nice luxury property) , and knowing that i was only in town briefly, asked what i was doing for the rest of the few days i was there. i made an excuse of meeting with ex-pat friends later that day, but said i would meet up with her and go to the zoo (her idea) the day before my late flight out of bkk (i had truly meant to keep this catch up, but earlier on the day i we had set i had trouble getting through to her phone, and by the time she called back (about 9 times. scary) , i was already busy with other less innocent pursuits).
anyway, after breakfast and saying goodbye, i decided to visit sol (star of light for newbies) , as my hotel was in the patpong area, and i had serious blue balls. it was my first time to the patpong strip (on purpose) , and after a bit of difficulty locating the bar and checking google maps, i realised i was standing out the front of it (the signage is only obvious when coming from suk, and i was a little hungover and jetlagged). sol looked fairly closed, but just as i went to walk off a mid to late 30s lady came rushing out, and asked me to "come in for fun". i was offered a drink, and had the sol prices and services explained to me (i was surprised that there were no curtains under the bar-top, as this was what i thought i had read quite a few times). there was only this lady and one other early 40s lady available, neither terribly attractive. but knowing that looks don't always translate to the amount of fun that can be had, i decided to stay. the 30s lady was quite plump. not obese, but larger than chubby, and from memory was a 5. 6 facewise, but seemed enthusiastic. although the bar was empty, i decided to utilise the bathroom rather than one of the very-non-private benches for my first sol blow'and'go.
the bbbj was excellent, especially at the 700 thb price tag, and being able to take the occasional swig of beer whilst it happened. not quite eye-crossing, knee-weakening, about-to-pass-out good like my first [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bj (with an early 20s girl, and a solid 8/10 face and body) , but not too far off. even though i had blue balls from the night before (and from not getting laid for a few weeks before the trip) , and i was shaking with pleasure (very rare for bjs for me) , it was not a 5 minute blow like i was expecting for my first monger back. the lady even offered an upgrade to fs at a discount (an extra 200 thb) if i was not enjoying the bj enough after about 20 mins. i said no, that it was really good, and kept going until blowing. at first in her mouth, then down her tits and on her face (blue balls do have some advantages, like plenty of ammo). i thanked her, finished my beer, tipped a couple of hundred thb and said i'd be back after she said anal was also available with some ladies there including herself.
later in the day, after moving to my next booked hotel which was more accessible to the sukhimvit line, i decided to also visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. i chose the cutest girl available out the front, and after the usual cold wet-wipe wi****wn she got down to business. her technique was much more standard. though still better than most non-thai women (fls and regular girls) , and she started with far too little skin showing, though the very cute face bobbing up and down was still making me thankful again of being in thailand. after asking whether it was ok to touch her (i'm somewhat of a gentleman) , as i did not think i would blow just from her clothed oral, she took all clothing off revealing a killer little body, amazing hard and long nipples, and a very smooth and wet muff, all of which she was more than happy to let me play with, and would move to accomodate whatever i was reaching for. the combination of thes helped a huge amount, and i was done within 5 minutes of her disrobing (i'd have been embarrassed if it wasn't a paid encounter). as i really wanted to experience being inside her amazing body, whilst biting on and playing with those amazing nipples, i asked if she was available for fs. she said that there is a room upstairs if i wanted to come back for st another day. i believe it was around 400 thb for the room hire, and 1200 thb for her (though can't quite remember) , and said which days and times she was available. i left, though forgot to tip (i don't usually tip at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] unless it was amazing anyway) , and 5 minutes later cursed myself for not trying to get her number for possible fl action instead. the girl would have been early 20s. 7.8 face. 9 body (though in miniature size) , and it was the usual 700 thb, no drink bought.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1261525]Actually Thailand is a place where office girls sometimes like to suppliment their income. (snip)[/QUOTE]One of the he woman I met the other night in the Beer Garden said her day job was raising frogs.
She was quite hot, too. Didn't smell like a frog farmer. ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1261548]One of the he woman I met the other night in the Beer Garden said her day job was raising frogs.
She was quite hot, too. Didn't smell like a frog farmer. .[/QUOTE]How does a frog farmer smell? How would you know? .
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1261552]How does a frog farmer smell? How would you know? .[/QUOTE]I used to catch frogs.
bkk2.
second night and third day:
after enjoying a few too many complimentary martinis and food at the second hotel's lounge, i decided to take a quick nap, with the plan of heading down to soi cowboy via the skyrail around 9ish. unfortunately, the drinks helped me to sleep through my alarm, and i awoke closer to midnight, so caught a taxi instead.
after having the taxi driver try to convince me to go to soi nana to a bar he recommends instead (read: gets kickbacks from), which i assured him i had visited many times (i hadn't, and if i remember what it is, i'll stay away because of this); then having him take me a convoluted way to soi cowboy (i told him the extra money he made taking me the long way was less than i would have tipped him), my night wasn't starting well.
deciding i needed a cigarette and a drink, i made a beeline for baccara, where it didn't take too long to get a seat and a good view of some amazing talent. although disappointed that the pleated-short-skirt and open-white shirt brigade were not on, my night started to get better when a cute gogo girl i had barfined last trip came over and started lavishing me with attention. a lady-drink later and she was asking if i wanted to "take her home". as my night had just started, and the girls on stage had removed clothes and were putting on a good show, i decided not to take her yet, so she went back to dancing. this was possibly a mistake, as a few drinks later she had been barfined by another punter.
for the next hour or so i bought another few lds, but was quoted 3000 thb lt from two girls (they were not as good as the girls i had got for 2000-2500 thb last trip, would not negotiate below 3k, and said definitely no cameras); and 1500 thb st from another girl who was amazing, but would not do lt. i decided i would come back later if i had no luck elsewhere, and checked out a few other gogos before deciding to go for a wander to walk off some alcohol.
at one of the tiny street-bars just outside soi cowboy, a cute girl grabbed my hand as i walked past, and pressed it to her ass in a cheeky way. i turned around, she kissed me, and asked me for a drink. i asked the price of lds, which was fairly cheap, so i agreed. her personality was cheeky more than sexy, which i liked, and in the dim light, she looked very sexy. after we finished our drink, i asked her how much to come back to my hotel, and whether she would allow photos. she said 2000 thb lt, and photos were fine, as long as i didn't put her face all over the internet (as did many of the girls this trip, hence me censoring my photos unlike in the past). as we were leaving, the bartender (a very manly looking lb) said i needed to pay a barfine. i laughed, as it was not a real bar; he said it was only 300 thb, so i payed and grabbed a taxi.
when back at my hotel, in better light, i could see she didn't have great skin with a few old zit scars on her face and back, and what appeared to be an old c-section scar. but despite these flaws still was quite attractive (see pictures to be the judge). she also had an amazing, skinny-type body (i like this body type, as well as athletic and curvaceous, depending on the woman), and kept her cheeky and rebellious attitude, which made for a mostly fun night.
the only real problem i had with the night was that on the second round of sex after a few hours sleep, she kept trying to put me inside her without a condom (which i sternly refused, i don't bareback except for oral); and on the third round the next morning, she grabbed onto the bottom of the condom whilst we were going hammer and tongs, which made it tear. i pulled out immediately (and was fortunately still covered where it counts), and told her off. she said "it ok, i'm clean, we no need condom", i said hell no, and was going to get her to leave straight away, but my libido got the better of me, so i put another condom on and finished.
later in the day, i decided to go out mongering one last time before leaving los for a couple of weeks. after dropping into a couple of nana beer bars, but not finding anyone i wanted to bf for st, i went back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. the girl from my previous visit wasn't there, so i chose the cutest girl available (about a 6 face, 8 body), and got a serviceable bbbj. i am surprised at how much the quality of the girls (looks and technique) varies between visits. sometimes it is hard to choose, as lots of the girls are hot, other times they are all very average.
i have attached a few non-action shots of the street-bar girl to this post; more pics (including x-rated) and screen grabs from videos taken will be put into photo gallery thread when i have edited them.
I think gentleboner needs some motivation. Still no photos. I will post my BKK collection of average girls as Gentle puts it with the hope that he can top it with pictures of his own.
Oops I forgot more photos for you. I really look forward to yours Gentleboner. I want to see what I am missing and also what you can teach me about mongering in Bangkok.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1260762]How many "upper class" farang visit Thailand for pussy? Maybe six.
It is obvious you know very little about what actually goes on in Thailand beyond Soi Bright Lights, and are just a persistent troll. .[/QUOTE]I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.
The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1261656]I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.
The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.[/QUOTE]Amen to that one. I want to keep the money I have. No need to impress anyone.
[QUOTE=The Pro;1261656]I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich.[/QUOTE]So based on that logic, we can assume that you are actually pennyless and merely claim to be rich, not that anyone actually gives a rat's ass. Its good to dress appropriately in Thailand for the situation. Many of us don't need to appear anything at all when it comes to income or wealth. Sometimes the "rich" appear excessively mean or stingy. I don't think Fon Tok was refering to "millionaires" so he wasn't counting you in the 6.
I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.
Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".
Thanks F.
P. S. Should anyone have the name of a reasonably GFE traveling companion, be she pro, non-pro or something in between, feel free to share! I promise to treat her with respect.
[QUOTE=Forest;1261796]I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, (snip). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.[/QUOTE]Unless you have met the girl "in the flesh" it is always and everywhere a bit of a hit or miss matter. I had some good experience with girls I met on DIA, but I had one who disappeared at the very last moment too. If you trawl the bars in Bangkok, you can try and find someone from Chiang Mai who can show you around in her hometown, but it is always advised to first sample her before committing yourself.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1261618]I think gentleboner needs some motivation. Still no photos. I will post my BKK collection of average girls as Gentle puts it with the hope that he can top it with pictures of his own.[/QUOTE]First round of photos in challenge 1 did not upload for some reason so I will post the links to the photo thread for our friend Gentle to see. I look forward to his reports with his photos and how he did them all for free or 500 Baht.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261614#post1261614[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261616#post1261616[/url]
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1261620]Oops I forgot more photos for you. I really look forward to yours Gentleboner. I want to see what I am missing and also what you can teach me about mongering in Bangkok.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Not impressed.
But I don't post photos of girls I sleep with. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1261757]So based on that logic, we can assume that you are actually pennyless and merely claim to be rich, not that anyone actually gives a rat's ass. Its good to dress appropriately in Thailand for the situation. Many of us don't need to appear anything at all when it comes to income or wealth. Sometimes the "rich" appear excessively mean or stingy. I don't think Fon Tok was refering to "millionaires" so he wasn't counting you in the 6.[/QUOTE]
But he knew you were going to use his own logic to conclude that he's actually poor. Which means he wanted to look poor. So really he's rich.
Honestly I've found it's always best to dress modestly as a white person visiting poorer countries. You can look nice and modest. But wearing anything flashy is like putting a target on your chest.
Try this. You might find some companions. I did find one, but did not work out at the last moment.
[url]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/trv/[/url]
Hifly.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1261796]I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.
Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".
Thanks F.
P. S. Should anyone have the name of a reasonably GFE traveling companion, be she pro, non-pro or something in between, feel free to share! I promise to treat her with respect.[/QUOTE]
Are they nice places close to the Hyatt hotel?
[QUOTE=The Pro;1261656]I am a millionaire, but I fcuk girls out of the Beer Garden, Cowboy, Thermae. So what. I also wear flip flops and shorts often. Its generally really rich people who try to appear poor, and its poor people who need to try to appear rich. The man with the nice watch and brand name clothes is often the poor one. Not the rich one.[/QUOTE]No worries. I was not thinking about you when I fictitiously mentioned the 6 or 8 "upper class" farang guys who GB thinks spend more than the Thai playboys, and somehow tilt the revenue generation model for entire TH entertainment industry.
I consider you to be in a one man group. The "Pro class." You've more than established that on this forum, many times.
Sort of like James Bond with a fake Omega, camo shorts, and flip flops. We just never see you when you are in TH.
[QUOTE=Forest;1261796]I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing, but from what I have read on the board, the scene in Changmai is not so great. Indeed, the last year's worth of postings make Changmai out to be more like Iowa than Thailand (my apologies in advance to the Iowans who read this board). Thus, I think I will look for someone to bring from Bangkok with me.[/QUOTE]Its only one day, so you don't really need to take someone with you for such a short time. It is possible to get a fuck in CM, e. G. Go to Soapy Massage parlour in Chiangmai. I would only take a girl with me if knew her well already. E. G. A bar girl that you get on well with and already have spent time with her in BKK a couple of times.
In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1261913]Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.[/QUOTE]Harold, please stop trolling and how about contributing something useful to this forum?
[QUOTE=Spivey24;1257626]I have a 15 hour layover in Bangkok on a Thurs night. I don't get in until 11:30P though. What would be my best bet? Looks like Soi Cowboy is open until around 2:30, Nightclubs later, soapies closed. I have been to Nana plaza a few years back and enjoyed it, but that is all I have done. Yes I have RTFF, but the search feature is not working correctly for me after I log in. Gives me links that are to wrong posts. No idea why, but research is a little challenging and trip fastly approaching.[/QUOTE]I would make sure to book a hotel right on Sukhumvit close to whichever of Nana or Cowboy that you aim to hit immediately. Either should work fine for your needs. I usuallly fly in at that time, and I literally throw my bag in the room, super quick shower, fresh clothes and head straight out the door to maximize my first night there. Jet lag and all. There's nothing like that culture shock of, within a short time, moving from a cramped airline seat to one in a Rainbow bar. Insomnia disco is along that stretch between NP and SC, as is Thermae, and both those are worth a visit at late hours. With that small window of time on my first night, I might even (for example) walk into Thermae and instantly decide whether its worth sticking around and exploring or not. If not I just head back up the stairs and move on to the next place, which would probably be one of the gogo bar areas. For maximum effect of being overwhelmed and culture-shocked, one of the huge bars like Rainbow 4 in Nana or Baccara in SC can't fail.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1261913]Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.[/QUOTE]Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOL
[QUOTE=Forest;1261796]Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to find a traveling companion? Would it be to go to a bar and find a compatible girl to invite? Try and make an offer on a dating site (all of the dating sites have some girls who are really P4P; I have already gotten some names of dating sites that are pretty good) ; or "other".[/QUOTE]Any working girl would luv to take a day trip or overnight trip with you, all expenses paid. Like others have posted, best to test drive her out to make sure she's the right gal. No need to use dating sites, find someone at one of the go-go bars or oilies. If you enjoy your night with them, ask them to accompany you. Make sure to agree on the finances before hand.
FWIW, Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a sports bar on onsite. Ask for Giotto or visit the Livingstone Lodge thread for more details. Gals there often travel with clients.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1262100]Any working girl would luv to take a day trip or overnight trip with you, all expenses paid.[/QUOTE]Not correct, while some girls like it, many do not, for various reasons. Boyfriend in Bangkok, more money with less hassle with short times, etc.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1261913]Please stop posting photos. There are other threads for that. Are you guys deliberately trying to keep guys away from Thailand to keep the prices low.
The girls are getting uglier and uglier. If thats possible. LOL.[/QUOTE]The rest of us are only amused that you think you are funny. There is nothing wrong with posting pics in this thread. We typically get a better standard than in the Photographs thread. You could ignore them or just ignore this thread completely. I ignore the Photos thread these days because I got bored with it.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1262107]Not correct, while some girls like it, many do not, for various reasons. Boyfriend in Bangkok, more money with less hassle with short times, etc.[/QUOTE]Have to agree. Some working girls have to do a shift of looking after their baby, where the Thai boyfriend is often long gone. Some girls still even live with their parents, although this should be rare. Some girls claim that they cannot sleep at night time and only sleep during the day (fishy story). However plenty of girls are still available. Some say they can't go away when actually they can. One bargirl recently told me about the customer who wanted to take her to Hong Kong, the money was good, but she still didn't want to go, because she didn't want marathon sex with little or no sleep. She had originally told me she didn't do LT, but later it turned out she did, once I became a regular. Girls have rules but they do break them too.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1262100]FWIW, Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33 has a sports bar on onsite. Ask for Giotto or visit the Livingstone Lodge thread for more details. Gals there often travel with clients.[/QUOTE]Did you take any away yourself? Were they good enough to hold your full attention for several days? I suspect that the best ones may be heavily booked up.
[QUOTE=Muffinman; 1261961]In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?[/QUOTE]Quick and cheap FS? Sure, it's called freelancers, such as in the Nana Parking Lot or Beergarden in BKK, or Pattaya Beach Road SWs. If your hotel is located with these ladies just outside the door or within a block or two, then it is very quick, depending on how quick you are to walk & shoot your load. Prices are usually in the 500 or 1000 Baht range, depending on the girl, the town and the pickup spot. If you have cell numbers, then it may be even quicker to call a FL up to your room.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1262044]Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOL[/QUOTE]Your two posts of photos did have about 2 or 3 ladies that would be of interest to me, although over the last 5 years I have found many of this quality at the Nana Parking Lot (NPL). While often there can be uglies at the NPL that I wouldn't go with for free, if one is lucky enough to be there at the right moment you can also find a number of attractive girls willing to go with guys ST for a measly 1000 baht.
In the following link you posted 9 pics, including 4 of one TG named Nung. What stood out to me here was a few of the ladies appear to be quite white, which is something I like & is very rare to find at the NPL. In fact I can't ever recall seeing one there as white looking as those pics, though perhaps they are not the same in person. Although once in the past half a decade I did see a snow white SW in the vicinity.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1261620#post1261620[/url]
Of the 9 pics I think number two with the shades, who looks like she might be up for some FK, seems to be my type. Namely young slim pretty with coloured hair. While the face looks white, her neck & arms appear as a more typical tan Thai colour. I'd definitely pick up this girl if she were in the NPL, & I have found those of comparable quality in looks there on many occasions.
While busty ladies are also a type that interests me, we don't really see what assets Nun has in that regard as per a nude pic. In the NPL, OTOH, I've found a few naturally very large bosomed females over the years, not katoys (ladyboys) , including one who was quite beautiful, thick lipped with & wearing a nurse's uniform. Speaking of uniforms, BTW, I've also encountered the slim young type who looked very sexy in her school girl outfit.
In your other post of photos you gave us 10 images to look at. For me number 6 clearly stands out from and miles above all the rest, who are not much to write home about. While I prefer big lips for BBBJs and kissing, this petite oriental looking doll more than makes up for that with her very cute slim face, pretty eyes, & gorgeous hair. She reminds me of two girls I was boinking last year, one from NPL and the other an ex NPLer from the Beergarden.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=1261614#post1261614[/url]
Finally your pic number 1 in the set of 9 is also worthy of honourable mention. Overall I'd agree the 19 photos offer much more than the typical photo thread offerings. And as such are IMO giving pooners a better idea what they'll come across in BKK, should they be enquiring whether or not to holiday here.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1262138]Did you take any away yourself? Were they good enough to hold your full attention for several days? I suspect that the best ones may be heavily booked up.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to imply it's 'easy, snap your fingers' and they come like crazy. That's why I said talk with Giotto, the owner [or better yet, his better half, she'll know much better]. There are no best ones; everyone has different tastes, etc. You know better than anyone I suspect, right?
[QUOTE=Forest;1261796]I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing[/QUOTE]
He said for one day, not multiple days. If I was going for more than a night or two, would be hesitant to take along unless I really knew the gal [and I almost never want to get to know them real well]!
And if you have some positive ideas, we're all ears.....
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1262203]Quick and cheap FS? Sure, it's called freelancers, such as in the Nana Parking Lot or Beergarden in BKK, or Pattaya Beach Road SWs. If your hotel is located with these ladies just outside the door or within a block or two, then it is very quick, depending on how quick you are to walk & shoot your load. Prices are usually in the 500 or 1000 Baht range, depending on the girl, the town and the pickup spot. If you have cell numbers, then it may be even quicker to call a FL up to your room.[/QUOTE]Beer Garden. As in the night club on Sukh. 19?
Hello, guys, just planning my next holiday in SE Asia (Thailand) , what's Bangkok like during Songran? I've found a great price on airfare, but its right before songran. Not sure if I should take it or not, I hear the girls leave for the sticks and you end up getting wet everywhere you go LOL I could just take a detour in Macau though.
[QUOTE=Muffinman; 1261961]In China they have these little shops where the girls sit around waiting for customers to take them in the back for a very quick half and half or sometimes just a FS. Its a nice service for when you're in a hurry. Cost is 100-150 yuan (500-700 baht, for those of you without a currency converter) depending on your negotiating abilities.
Anything similar in the LOS? Sure there's the soapies and the 1-2 hour massage places and the BJ bars. But I'm just wondering if there's quick and cheap FS.
Now of course, Dr. BJ and others offer FS, but the price is ridiculous.
Anything interesting services in Chinatown?[/QUOTE]To Muffinman
I was in China and Thaikand last month did check out BBK chinatown didn't see any SW 2 yr ago I saw some low quality SW from mainland China working the st very cheap 500 bht a pop, I think you are looking for BBS action like in Shenzhen and Guangzhou but in Bangkok is mostly massage place and fish bowl that you pick the girl no take out FS is done onsite, you can go to bar or gogo bar to pick up girl bring back to hotel but it will cost alot more than 150 rmb.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1262244]He said for one day, not multiple days. If I was going for more than a night or two, would be hesitant to take along unless I really knew the gal [and I almost never want to get to know them real well]!
And if you have some positive ideas, we're all ears.[/QUOTE]I was asking about if you tried it yourself and found it to be good. I guess you didn't take any away yourself. Could be risky.
Just 1 day is hardly worth it. I already mentioned I have only ever taken away girls that I knew really quite well. 3 in all to Chiang Mai but two were in GF status, and not from LL. Had a fairly good time with girl I knew least well, but I had to be very careful not to cause issues many years ago when just starting to learn about Thai ways and manners. I wasn't as classy (not refering to money) as what she expected from me, even though she was a working girl.
This post is sort of Bangkok because we are talking abouting picking up a girl in Bangkok. A side note to the guy complaining about lack of relevance in posts.
[QUOTE=Muffinman;1262152]This thread needs some attention. I'm a bit disappointed to see what's going on here. This thread is for Bangkok Reports.[/QUOTE]And you want to talk about cheap China knocking shops, and complain sex is too expensive here? Bier Garten is in Sukhumvit Soi 7, I think. Post a Bangkok experience report yourself!
[QUOTE=Forest;1261796]I want to go to Changmai for a day of sightseeing[/QUOTE]I doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1262342]And you want to talk about cheap China knocking shops, and complain sex is too expensive here? Bier Garten is in Sukhumvit Soi 7, I think. Post a Bangkok experience report yourself![/QUOTE]Thanks.
Went to Snow White awhile back. In Jan. Rang up Belle for 2 hours. That's 700 for the massage fee and 1500 for FS. The service was spectacular and her spoken English is good. No tattoos, breasts a little saggy. She has a kid. But she seemed happy to fill any request. And she's literally very flexible. She started right away with anal rimming. Did I say rimming. More like probing. Then she pulled out 6 condoms and placing them up on the bed. She asked how many shots I wanted. I said two and stayed for three. She has great charisma and likes to chat during rests. Yet eager to get back to business. Missionary, doggie style, cowgirl. She's a seasoned pro.
We were late getting downstairs and I had to pay for another half hour.
All in all a great time. Was totally wiped out afterwards.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1262346]I doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.[/QUOTE]Well the flight time is only an hour or so, but door-to-door would be half a day. Personally I prefer to sight-see by myself, so I certainly wouldn't fly a girl up there just for company. Much better to fly there, stay one night and fly back the next. You can find company either for ST or LT in Chiang Mai. It may be uncertain but no more so than taking a chance on a girl from BKK, which would be a very expensive option with flights.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1262314]what's Bangkok like during Songran? I hear the girls leave for the sticks and you end up getting wet everywhere you go LOL I could just take a detour in Macau though.[/QUOTE]Surely BKK will be' wet! And you will be no exception.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1262346]I doubt if it would be worth it. It is quite a trip from Bangkok to Chiang May: it will take you the better part of the day, unless you go by night train or night bus, but then you arrive quite tired. One day in Chiang Mai = three days away, so you will need to find a companion for three days which will add to the cost.[/QUOTE]While chiang mai is not a real mongering destination there are plenty of girls to be had, actually this is just the conundrum that they don't find customers. They might not be pornstars but they will service you just fine and the fun is also as always in the hunt. If you come here (to cm) and cannot find any give me a shout. I will help out.
Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?
[QUOTE=Turnover27;1262562]Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?[/QUOTE]Spasso bar is right in the hotel but supposedly with a large cover charge and expensive FL's
I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?
Want to hook up with a MLF in banglok or Pattaya any suggestions.
MILF can be of any race.
[QUOTE=Turnover27;1262562]Anybody has an idea what is going on close to the Hyatt Hotel? What are the shortest destinations for hot fun from this place?[/QUOTE]You can just go down to the disco in the hotel and check out the talent there. The Spasso bar suppose to be night club after the restaurant operations shut down and the talent should be fine, just costs a little more. Kind of like the extra cost of room service.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1262695]I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]I don't see how any of you guys can take those pills. They make my Dick sleepy and limp for the entire next day.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1262418]Well the flight time is only an hour or so, but door-to-door would be half a day. Personally I prefer to sight-see by myself, so I certainly wouldn't fly a girl up there just for company. Much better to fly there, stay one night and fly back the next. You can find company either for ST or LT in Chiang Mai. It may be uncertain but no more so than taking a chance on a girl from BKK, which would be a very expensive option with flights.[/QUOTE]Air asia has cheap flights from BKK to Chiang Mai. Me and my Thai virgin (Ex now) went there and stayed for a week. Really like it. Cooler weather. We did lots of touristy trips including going into Myanmar and Laos.
Lots of tribes in that area and the tribal girls are quite pretty (atleast the ones they show to tourists ). Lots of beautifull temples, Folk dances with dinner etc. I believe if somebody finds a GFE girl in BKK it is really worth the trip. Ofcourse got to love the touristy stuff. If somebody is Just going there to find girls and staying in the room it is a waste. There are plent of pretty girls in Chiang Mai and Chiang rai. I do not know if they are normal girls or working girls. Once my guide said he can get me Tribal girls when I kiddingly ask the pretty tribal girl if she was looking for a bf. I did not pursue it because I had a wonderfull pretty companion with me.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1262695]I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]I always use Ambien when I travel. Helps me sleep on the plane. But they are prescription.
It seems you can get Ambien without prescription in Bangkok. Anyone can recommend a pharmacy for it? Generally speaking, can I just walk in any pharmacy as they are all legit, or is it important to get "one of the good ones" in Bangkok to avoid fakes? I have no experience with pharmacies here.
Went to Rainbow 4, only because of the prettiest girls. 6-9 months ago the standard wasn't as high. Maybe the floods have brought some new pretty girls. Decided to call over one witha stunning face. Body not quite super but okay Smallish tits, no problem. She was showing little real interest and encouraged me to call over any other I so much as glanced at. She explained she was waiting for her husband, I guess she meant her regular, and in any case she goes for a high price. She was certain I wouldn't be interested since I speak Thai, and all the guys that speak Thai are careful with the prices. Actually I was willing to take one for the forum, even at an inflated price just to see if she would be a starfish or what. It was obvious she was not in a negotiation mood and suggesting other girls, for me. In the end she agreed to go with me but only to ST hotel in Nana so that she would be able to get back to her regular later.
In the room she explained that she never goes with guys over 38 (why the magic number?) , but she made an exception for me since I was clearly not like the average guy, but actually gave her a quite good nice guy impression. Anyway I have been mistaken for high 40s, but 38 would be stretching the imagination much too far. She was from Lopburi with quite pale skin and had only been in the bar 4 months, which figures. I don't expect excessively pretty girls would last too long. Sh acted somewhat shy for a bar girl and did not have a great deal of skills. BJ was not greatly useful. No matter, for a girl so pretty, I can get horny easily enough. She even let me do a little DATY. I got myself hard while gently playing with her pussy, and she moving her body as though she was feeling okay with it. Even got to insert finger a little. She then wanted to change the condom in case was damaged. Never mind I was still moderately hard. During the sex she was prepared to raise her knees up to her chest to give me best entry, so the screw was quite enjoyable in the end, with only her pretty face being some compensation for her lack of skills.
So although too expensive, it was pleased that it was not a complete disaster as I half expected. Next time I will try one with a knockout body to go with the face I think. Its a bit hard to tell though unless they at least go topless.
In between girls I had to call my GF pretending to be at the Airport Gold Lounge, ready to fly out. Actually in a restaurant at the Landmark.
Later called in to Rainbow. Not same standard but a couple of pretty girls there. Went with a Ding Dong type from Udon later. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at all. She forgot her telephone in my Hotel room. Soon realised and called me up of course. No. 68 at rainbow had a very high hip to waist ratio, and cute face, and reminded me of one of my favourite Soapy girls from Chiang Rai, so might try her next time.
Mr. D Cups,
Rainbow has a girl dancing with at least E to F sized cups, and not silicone I reckon. Enormous. Too much for me to handle, she is not slim obviously, but not really too fat either.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1262769]I don't see how any of you guys can take those pills. They make my Dick sleepy and limp for the entire next day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning.
I tried Laet (Rhino) Lotion, and it killed all feeling in my dick for some time. I guess it was intended for guys who cum too quick, to weaken the sensations. I take a long time to cum, so was hoping for something to increase the sensation instead of masking it.
Another warning. I once took cough medicine for a problem cough. I found after that, my dick wouldn't stay up too. It seemed to be somewhat anaesthetised (not just the throat only) , and I wasn't blown by someone drinking the cough medicine either.
[QUOTE=TonyGoa; 1262697]Want to hook up with a MLF in banglok or Pattaya any suggestions.
MILF can be of any race.[/QUOTE]Cripes pal, you asked the same question about 7-8 times, and you still don't have any idea? There's another thread with photos of nothing buy MILF's, maybe the proprietor of that thread can help you out with some of his models!
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1262897]Thanks for the warning.
I tried Laet (Rhino) Lotion, and it killed all feeling in my dick for some time. I guess it was intended for guys who cum too quick, to weaken the sensations. I take a long time to cum, so was hoping for something to increase the sensation instead of masking it.
Another warning. I once took cough medicine for a problem cough. I found after that, my dick wouldn't stay up too. It seemed to be somewhat anaesthetised (not just the throat only) , and I wasn't blown by someone drinking the cough medicine either.[/QUOTE]I have the same limp Dick problem with muscle relaxers, sleeping pills, cough syrup, nyquil, Xanax, etc.
Anything that makes me "relax" also makes my pecker relax. I try to avoid that shit when on mongering trip.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1262860]It seems you can get Ambien without prescription in Bangkok. Anyone can recommend a pharmacy for it? Generally speaking, can I just walk in any pharmacy as they are all legit, or is it important to get "one of the good ones" in Bangkok to avoid fakes? I have no experience with pharmacies here.[/QUOTE]I've never found a chemist that will sell Ambien without a scrip here, and I have asked. Valium and Xanax, yes, but the first makes me feel like I've been smacked over the head with a frozen salmon, and the latter gives me wild dreams, which isn't too bad but it also has a reputation for causing psychosis. If anyone finds a shop in BKK that will sell Ambien or generic zolpidem please let us know!
I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.
[QUOTE=Naughty;1263013]I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.[/QUOTE]Could go to the "Generral" thread, where most non-mongering topics go.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1262891]Went to Rainbow 4, only because of the prettiest girls. 6-9 months ago the standard wasn't as high. Maybe the floods have brought some new pretty girls. Decided to call over one witha stunning face. Body not quite super but okay Smallish tits, no problem. She was showing little real interest and encouraged me to call over any other I so much as glanced at. She explained she was waiting for her husband, I guess she meant her regular, and in any case she goes for a high price. She was certain I wouldn't be interested since I speak Thai, and all the guys that speak Thai are careful with the prices. Actually I was willing to take one for the forum, even at an inflated price just to see if she would be a starfish or what. It was obvious she was not in a negotiation mood and suggesting other girls, for me. In the end she agreed to go with me but only to ST hotel in Nana so that she would be able to get back to her regular later.
In the room she explained that she never goes with guys over 38 (why the magic number?) , but she made an exception for me since I was clearly not like the average guy, but actually gave her a quite good nice guy impression. Anyway I have been mistaken for high 40s, but 38 would be stretching the imagination much too far. She was from Lopburi with quite pale skin and had only been in the bar 4 months, which figures. I don't expect excessively pretty girls would last too long. Sh acted somewhat shy for a bar girl and did not have a great deal of skills. BJ was not greatly useful. No matter, for a girl so pretty, I can get horny easily enough. She even let me do a little DATY. I got myself hard while gently playing with her pussy, and she moving her body as though she was feeling okay with it. Even got to insert finger a little. She then wanted to change the condom in case was damaged. Never mind I was still moderately hard. During the sex she was prepared to raise her knees up to her chest to give me best entry, so the screw was quite enjoyable in the end, with only her pretty face being some compensation for her lack of skills.
So although too expensive, it was pleased that it was not a complete disaster as I half expected. Next time I will try one with a knockout body to go with the face I think. Its a bit hard to tell though unless they at least go topless.
In between girls I had to call my GF pretending to be at the Airport Gold Lounge, ready to fly out. Actually in a restaurant at the Landmark.
Later called in to Rainbow. Not same standard but a couple of pretty girls there. Went with a Ding Dong type from Udon later. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at all. She forgot her telephone in my Hotel room. Soon realised and called me up of course. No. 68 at rainbow had a very high hip to waist ratio, and cute face, and reminded me of one of my favourite Soapy girls from Chiang Rai, so might try her next time.
Mr. D Cups,
Rainbow has a girl dancing with at least E to F sized cups, and not silicone I reckon. Enormous. Too much for me to handle, she is not slim obviously, but not really too fat either.[/QUOTE]Obviously a very pretty girl (long legs too?) who is in some kind of denial mode that she's even a WG, so she has all these supposed rules, thus making it (in her mind at least) more like having sex with mostly younger to younger middle aged guys who happen to be generous, and that she perhaps has some attraction toward. If she has sex with an older guy, she would then know for sure she's a WG. Brad Pitt is 48, but would he be turned down? Odd she's not working G clubs and out trolling for rich guys and sponsors. Beyond having small tits what made her body "not super"?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1262891]. She moaned a lot and thrashed around wildly a bit but I was not convinced by the act at all[/QUOTE]You are making progress ;) ;)
[QUOTE=Naughty;1263013]I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.[/QUOTE]Anyone with a great mongering report can cut through anytime. In the meantime, I'm still looking for a good pharmacy in BKK ;)
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1263036]Could go to the "Generral" thread, where most non-mongering topics go.[/QUOTE]Your wasting your time complaining about this. I have decided that the members don't care too much about mongering on the Bangkok thread, and don't know the difference between Bangkok reports and general conversation. Don't fight now, you will lose and I already lost.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1262695]I'm going to make Moris happy by introducing a new topic: sleeping pills!
I tried these years ago that put you to sleep within 30 minutes, gave you a nice deep sleep, and you would wake up very easily and without feeling drowsy. I can't remember the brand though.
I tried something from 7/11 last night and woke up feeling almost hangover from the after-effect.
Can anyone recommend a good brand (clean sleep and wake-up) and a good pharmacy to get them in Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]Be my guest! This board has gone to hell anyways. No one understands the difference between the General thread and Bangkok reports. In fact I think Jackson and other members have created a separate thread for every topic you guys insist on posting in the the section reserved for Bangkok reports. Well won't last much longer because the Thai gov't just blocked ISG and you will now need a proxy to access it.
Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.
[QUOTE=Naughty;1263013]I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't want his forum to degenerate into a "where can I buy psychotropic drugs" board.[/QUOTE]Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.
[QUOTE=Sanook D;1263152]Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.[/QUOTE]You don't need all those heavy medicines? When I travel now on a long flight, I usually have two glasses of red wine with my dinner. Lately I got a hold of some natural herbal tea's, Ashwagandha and Passion Flower, make yourself a cup after your dinner and you are out. Ashwagandha in particular really relaxes you and when you wake up you feel energized! All ready for the action that awakes you in Thailand.
LBM
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1262188]I wasnt referring to your photos becoz yours are obviously not genuine. Look like they taken from some other source.
All in fun guys. Don't take things so seriously![/QUOTE]I think you are totally out to lunch. These photos belong to me. They were either take from me or given to me by the ladies in question!
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263139]Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.[/QUOTE]I did not know we could advertise in this forum but great pics!
[QUOTE=Sanook D;1263152]Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.[/QUOTE]I use Ambien for jet lag as I fly a lot. Have never been able to buy zolpidem in BKK without a scrip. Can buy in India very easily if you are passing through.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1263227]I think you are totally out to lunch. These photos belong to me. They were either take from me or given to me by the ladies in question![/QUOTE]I noticed this too. A few of them looked like they were taken by you, but a few looked like they were taken from a dating site or what not.
Kind att Dr BJ
Nice to see the website updated
But for your information Old is Gold and you cannot deny the fact.
The mature ones are the ones who will keep the standards of your place specially the ones from Annies
I please request you to number the ladies as it will be easier to identify the ladies when we come over
The names are very difficult to pronounce for a non Thai and are long too
So please code them as it will be good for the customer as when you are having more than 30 ladies spotting the special one will be difficult.
Hope you consider my suggestion.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263139]Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.[/QUOTE]
Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris - ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1263202]I've never partaked in a BJ bar.
Ugly brown skin and pretyy white skin are like oil and water, they just don't mix.[/QUOTE]A silly metaphor, IMHO. Its all personal taste man. I am not so fussy when it comes to skin colour, being a Farang. A pretty girl can be white (light) , brown or black (quite dark). Isn't Naomi Campbell a hot girls for looks? I am also very fussy about looks and don't go to BJ bars much, not expecting to find the best lookers in the world on average, however have managed to find acceptable girls in the past. Bear in mind not everyone is so fussy as us for looks, and some are more interested in big tits, real or not, and BJ technique for a good price.
I suggest you go to Rainbow 4 bar, as you will find some stunning pale skinned girls, at a massive price, whose blowjob technique sucks, to be honest compared to BJ specialist places, but still worth a visit for the sheer beauty. Why mouth off about something that is of no interest to you? Post a review of some place you liked instead.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1263407]Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris. ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]ISG is blocked at some Hotels. In that event can use internet tethering to your phone. I don't do freelancers much anymore, so its difficult to estimate without the adequate experience. Probably a low percentage. However have definitely had a few part-timers over the years. Recently a girl was in Sheba for her friends birthday, but she doesn't work the bar currently although used to, and doing something else now. However she was willing to go with me that night (no bar fine required) , so hadn't given up hooking completely. I was also informed that 1 girl at EZ massage has a regular job as well as doing some work at EZ to suppliment.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1263411]ISG is blocked at some Hotels. In that event can use internet tethering to your phone.[/QUOTE]Or use a proxy server. [url]http://freeproxyserver.net/[/url]
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1263407]Here is a question on BKK freelancers: how many of them would you say are occasional (regular girls with a job looking for extra cash a few times a month) and how many are out there every night and doing it professionally?
PS: Moris. ISG is not blocked at all as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]Difficult to give figures. Some of them I've seen around for years (including having a real job during the day) , some do it only during a few month because they have a specific problem (I. E. Pay studies) , or do it a few days a month to pay their rent. Then it's a question of flair to identify them. I would tend to think that most 28+ girls are regular freelancers (with or without day job) , while the (few) younger ones probably only do it for a limited period of time in the year. When I find a pretty young FL in the street or in bars, I usually take her phone number to meet them again when I come back to BKK. Usually, this number doesn't remain active more than 6 months.
[QUOTE=Sanook D;1263152]Ambien is for jetlag not recreation, unless sleep is recreation. Important to people who fly long distances to get here. Move it to the General if you like but the question is about where to buy it in BKK.[/QUOTE]Whatever. As I said, not really my business.
I say it is just the opposite with freelancers or any hooker with a job. The day job is something they do for extra money and to socialize. Give thier lifestyle some balance.
None of them are truly career oriented, none of them have alot of prospects. They are looking for some old geezer to sponsor them, and then they still might sell themselves for fun.
I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve. Even after they get boyfriends or sponsors, they will still want to go and hang out with thier hooker friends.
Not many "Babes in the woods", in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1263427]I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve.[/QUOTE]You certainly have no idea about Thai family monetary problems, specially for girls with baby but husband long gone. Medicine / treatment for sickness in the family is an obvious high cost item, schooling for close relative also. Sure a friend may suggest a place to work, but surely money is the prime motivation. Not socializing with friends.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1263427]I believe most Thai working girls get into the business because they have a friend who is in the business first, not because of pure desperation. Sure, they might have been poor, but rice, chicken, and papaya is cheap. There families were not about to starve. Even after they get boyfriends or sponsors, they will still want to go and hang out with thier hooker friends.[/QUOTE]You got that right. Have you ever tried to pull some of these chicks away from their friends when they are out partying? Then a couple of weeks ago I reported about a Pattaya girl who has a boyfriend that bought her a 30000 baht phone and sends her money and she still goes with guys. And he knows it! Amazing Thailand.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1263430]You certainly have no idea about Thai family monetary problems, specially for girls with baby but husband long gone. Medicine / treatment for sickness in the family is an obvious high cost item, schooling for close relative also. Sure a friend may suggest a place to work, but surely money is the prime motivation. Not socializing with friends.[/QUOTE]They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.
Picked up a two girls from Sheba last night, one from the lesbian act, and one I know well. The lesbian act girl was cute enough that several guys were wanting to call her over so got my other girl to check with her and get her bar-fined promptly before it was too late. I was later embarassed to find out she was only 18 but an exquisite fuck.
For those of you have never tried screwing a girl at the same time as having another lick your balls, I can highly recommend it. Got a really special feeling from that. Can't wait for the next session.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1263202]Never did I see a light skin pretty girl anywhere near the premises.[/QUOTE]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1263202]Ugly brown skin and pretyy white skin are like oil and water, they just don't mix.[/QUOTE]I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1263435]They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.[/QUOTE]Sure working girls feel entitled to have a cell phone, and wear clothes, and some are wasting their money, but not all. Not many can afford an iphone / ipad. I am certainly aware of Thais in desperate financial straits, who are not working as pros, so the temptation to become a hooker could be strong. Some at least become part time hookers when they absolutely have to get money for the medical bill or even next month's rent. Those that get reasonable money as hooker, no doubt become somewhat more relaxed finacially and may start to party it up with the friends. I can promise you though, that if a more highly paid job was a available to them, or had the fiance to start their own business, many would quit being a bar / MP girl quite quickly. E. G. Cherry massage has just been started up by ex working girls.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1263443]E. G. Cherry massage has just been started up by ex working girls.[/QUOTE]Ex-working girls my ass. Cherry would quit Mango every few months to shack up with some punter for a while. Falangs are the money, behind Cherry massage. I promise I could still fuck Cherry if I wanted to. Jane also. Boyfriend or no boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1263435]They might send 10, 000 baht back home, tops. Probably not that much. They could make that much money working anywhere. They spend all their money on dumb shit like cell phones and clothes.[/QUOTE]True for some but not for all. My "girlfriend" sends way more. She sent half a million baths to her family for a new home, most of that was wasted away on gambling by the dumbass male side of the family (father and brothers). Amazing Thailand. I'm trying to convince her to stop giving money to anyone except her sisters.
Also they could most definitely not "make that much money working anywhere". What they would make as provincial girls with no qualifications is 6 or 8 or 10K a month or something, depending where they work (which company and which location ie home village or Bangkok). Most of that little salary would be eaten up by basic necessities expenses so there would be nothing left to send. They can send a lot more doing this job and have a better lifestyle to boot. There is a reason why girls enter the trade, they aren't stupid.
Sure, hookers fuck for money. But that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about hookers that have a normal jobs also.
I believe that most just say that shit to someone so they will agree to a quick short time session."Sorry, I have to work in the morning","Sorry, I have class in the morning" is better than saying "I'm in a hurry, my boyfriend is waiting" or "Sorry, I have not smoked any ice in a few hours".
Most Thai hookers are lazy and like to party. They like the job. They like the lifestyle. It is not sick buffaloes and bills to pay.
If I could choose between fucking and working hard. I would choose fucking.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1263464]
If I could choose between fucking and working hard. I would choose fucking.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Sometimes I envy my girl's job. Couple of hours of work a week. Good pay. Weeks or month off whenever she wants. Travel in luxury on some guy's dime. Party time and lunches with girlfriends every other day. Not a bad deal. If I had the option I would probably do it too.
A lot are paying off 2-20% per month loans to private money lenders that it is unlikely they'll ever be able to f* their way out of.
[QUOTE=SimonIndia;1263356]I please request you to number the ladies as it will be easier to identify the ladies when we come over The names are very difficult to pronounce for a non Thai and are long too So please code them as it will be good for the customer as when you are having more than 30 ladies spotting the special one will be difficult. Hope you consider my suggestion.[/QUOTE]Already done for you.
Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Thanks
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]She looks scared in the middle photo. I would suggest hiring a photographer who can bring out happier emotions!
[QUOTE=Wiild;1263641]Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Thanks[/QUOTE]One gal that sticks out is a light skinned girl working at Bacarra. She was hot with nice fake ones. She was sitting with a Japanese dude of course.
[QUOTE=Wiild;1263641]Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Thanks[/QUOTE]At least 3 girls I have BFd from baccara have fake boobs; though I think at many Gogos you will find at least one lady with them.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]OMG. Seriously?
I come to this forum for the intel of the savvy punter with first hand experiences and boots on the ground, and not to be marketed to by owners with a vested interest in puffing up the truth while pushing their wares.
Sad sad sad turn of events here.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]In protest to this blatant add, I have come out of posting retirement to give a review. A fair review though.
I frequented Annies a lot in the last year that I have lived in Bangkok, but when they ditched their fishbowl girls and went to 2500 girls only I started to look else where. Dr BJs appealed to me from the website so I popped in to see what the score was. I went for VIP in the full on at the top of the building suit.
Walking in, down stairs is nicely done out. Biggest grumble is that the girls parade on a balcony on the next floor and you can not really see them, certainly not their bodies. I picked the girl that looked cutest but in reality was ropey at best during the action. Walked up 3 or 4 flights of stairs, through the 1st floor bed area where the girls most likely live / sleep and was gerenally very untidy and told a story that on the face of things, they want to look flash and smart but underneath they are no different to anywhere else.
The VIP was a BIG let down. It is an old poorly maintained and decorated studio apartment, complete with 1980's decor and bed. The Bathroom had been refitted and there was a token lilo for soapy massage but compared to the facilities on Ratchada it leaves a lot to be desired.
I won't comment on the performance of the girl too much. They seem to be the old fishbowl girls from Annies that are not hot enough to graduate to the 2500 sideline price tag. She was mechanical, learnt all she knew from watching porn but not in a good way (very very mechanical, and I actually started to lose interest within about 10 minutes).
My basic view is; over priced, misleading website if you are interested in something more that an BJ; poor quality of girls, and somewhere I have no interest in returning to. I have stopped going to Annies as well because of the lack of the odd gem you would find in the fishbowl as well. Ratchada all the way for me now.
@Dr BJ. Try harder.
Probably wrong on this but Dr. BJ Salons recent pictures had a girl that looked like she had bolt ons. When I showed the pictures to the Thai wife her response was 'circle' which is her way in saying fake.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1263677]At least 3 girls I have BFd from baccara have fake boobs; though I think at many Gogos you will find at least one lady with them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1263699]Probably wrong on this but Dr. BJ Salons recent pictures had a girl that looked like she had bolt ons. When I showed the pictures to the Thai wife her response was 'circle' which is her way in saying fake.[/QUOTE]Very obvious fakes. So what?
A Previous poster was looking for fakes. I could care less. Not my taste.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1263709]Very obvious fakes. So what?[/QUOTE]
[quote=akka76;1263697]the vip was a big let down. it is an old poorly maintained and decorated studio apartment, complete with 1980's decor and bed. the bathroom had been refitted and there was a token lilo for soapy massage but compared to the facilities on ratchada it leaves a lot to be desired.[/quote]vip has always been a gimmick i think, but in most places you get a bigger room.
i never can cease to be amazed by the high expectations. this is a bj joint in a very down market location. comparing to a luxury ratchada soapy appears slightly ridiculous. okay i conceed that you are expecting fab bj skills, and hopefully way better than soapy girls, but my experience in bj places is that not all girls have the same skills. however i would suggest go to a bj bar where can sit and talk to the girl first to see who you like. i always rejected eden due to the style being expected to choose girls immediately without delay.
you have 3 bj joints in sukhumvit now to choose from, would be interesting to read a comparison of all three. i have only tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on occasions where could only escape from gf for max of 30 mins without too much suspicion. some girls were acceptable looking but very few. at the other, forget the name, (maybe "lollipop"?) didn't see a girl that was appealing at all. so didn't stay.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1263513]Already done for you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the same hope it helps others too.
[quote=syzygies; 1263724]vip has always been a gimmick i think, but in most places you get a bigger room.
i never can cease to be amazed by the high expectations. this is a bj joint in a very down market location. comparing to a luxury ratchada soapy appears slightly ridiculous. okay i conceed that you are expecting fab bj skills, and hopefully way better than soapy girls, but my experience in bj places is that not all girls have the same skills. however i would suggest go to a bj bar where can sit and talk to the girl first to see who you like. i always rejected eden due to the style being expected to choose girls immediately without delay.
you have 3 bj joints in sukhumvit now to choose from, would be interesting to read a comparison of all three. i have only tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on occasions where could only escape from gf for max of 30 mins without too much suspicion. some girls were acceptable looking but very few. at the other, forget the name, (maybe "lollipop"?) didn't see a girl that was appealing at all. so didn't stay.[/quote]for dr bjs. vip does not mean vip, and i knew this from the start. it means a bed, bathroom, and soapy mat. however with such effort in the bj rooms to charge more to sit in a bed sit is rediculous. also you can easily compare ratchada to this place not least because dr bjs offersfull service in a room with bathroom and soapy mat. the room was similar to nataree in quality, more expensive and certainly no where close in terms of quality. quite happy for the tourists to flood these low down rip off joints; i'll do as the locals do and stay local.
[QUOTE=Wiild;1263641]Where is the best chance of finding girls with fake boobs? I like 'them firm and big. Any specific bar / freelance heavy club etc with higher concentration of this type of girls? I tried to search the forum but only one post mentioning one girl at Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Thanks[/QUOTE]Silicones abound everywhere. Not hard to find in bars or MPs. What is the problem? Maybe you should be specifying the size, if you look for something out of the ordinary. Look on MP websites with girl pics. Plenty are obvious silicones. Nearly every bar in Cowboy or Nana Plaza has biggish silicones on one or more girls. Ladyboy bars have the highest concentration of them. One girl at Rainbow bar had really massive tits (F cup?) , but I thought they might actually be real, as not in the coconut shell shape.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1263696]OMG. Seriously?
I come to this forum for the intel of the savvy punter with first hand experiences and boots on the ground, and not to be marketed to by owners with a vested interest in puffing up the truth while pushing their wares.
Sad sad sad turn of events here.
SunLover[/QUOTE]Out of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.
OK, cool, thanks Syzygies It's been 3 years since my last BKK trip and at that time there was not much silicone around, visited most Nana Plaza bars and all the silicone I saw was bolted onto ladyboys' chests. I like big firm tits on small framed girls. Good to hear there is progress. I shall browse up some MP sites as you suggested although I prefer the evening bar scene better. If anyone spot a girl with big silicone tits anywhere, let me know thanks.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1263665]I would suggest hiring a photographer who can bring out happier emotions! .[/QUOTE]Fon Tok? Kaintuck? . They are the best photographers the Thai sections of ISG have!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1263839]Fon Tok? Kaintuck? . They are the best photographers the Thai sections of ISG have![/QUOTE]Yes, not sure if mr FonTok does studio gigs, he seems to specialize in street photography. Kaintuck is a good studio guy, but his choice of models are somewhat controversial LOL.
Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht!
I believe that if a girl or establishment has been receiving some bad reviews then they are aloud and should have the opportunity to post a response to some of the comments. What I don't agree with is the posting of the girls photographs on the main board, they should have been posted in the classified section. There is a well know board in Canada that allows WG's and Escort agencies to have memberships and post. On that board many WG's and agencies will post phony reports or shills to try and offset the bad reviews. I commend Dr. BJ for not doing this thing. Please remember one thing about business and customers. Rarely do customers sing praises about any business. It is expected when one pays a fee for a service it should be exceptional. Customers however will always talk about and complain when the services are not good, it is human nature. BJ I suggest you purchase a simple membership for 19. 99USD to support the board and post your ads in the classified section if you want. I am not sure how much time Jackson spends on the board but I suspect it is not a full time gig for him. I don't see a lot of ads so I assume this to be true. If he sees your activity then I am sure he will take a paid ad from you. Why not post a girl of the week in the classifieds section. Maybe offer a special for the members here. The secret code is "sure are a lot of girls here" or at least it was the code in China to identify forum members in Beijing bars.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1263769]If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I am not in Authority and could be wrong, but I think that Ads are acceptable in the Escorts Classified Thread even if its not strictly about Escorts. We don't have hundred threads so have to find the one of best fit.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1263969]Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.
I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht![/QUOTE]Hello, Tony, as you can probably guess from earlier post, I am a Baccara fan, mainly because there are at least a few girls this hot most nights. I think quite a few of the flashier (and more expensive) Gogos on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza should have some girls this hot most nights, as well as some of the better massage parlours (I'm trying to remember the name of the website that has photos of lots of girls from various shops). I believe ST will be a fair bit more than 1K (BF will eat most of that up) , and you will generally have to hit it off or be fairly generous with LDs (and offered fee) to make it happen.
I have managed to BF a few girls around this level of hotness from Gogos (ands MPs) , but seeing as most Gogo girls say no to photos, many of the stuners say no to LT (which I usually prefer after a night out at Gogos) and in my experience generally aren't the best in bed, they have mostly not been my favourite experiences. Once in a while you will get a stunner that gives it 100, so it is still worthwhile to aim for this level of attractiveness; but I quite often also go for cute to attractive ladies with better attitudes as well.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1263969]Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous?[/QUOTE]I'd try some G-Clubs like The Bank, The Pimp or St. Moritz.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1263969]I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht![/QUOTE]I really doubt that this amount will get it done with a really stunner
Sometimes it can be surprisingly efficient to get through BKK Suvarnabhmui Airport and into the action. This happened yesterday:
00:45 (am). My flight from Europe touched down on the runway a few minutes early due to tailwind. It arrived at gate D4 which is very close to immigration / passport control.
01:05 (am). Sitting in a metered taxi already. Immigration was quick with only two people in front of me. And of course I never check luggage.
01:40 (am). In my room at Grand Millenium on Sukhumvit Soi 21. The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, he obviously wanted to gawk at all the streetwalkers along this rather dark stretch of road. And he kept pointing them out to me and saying "Lady Market! Lady Market!" and laughing. These gals probably cater mostly to locals, I would presume. Some were quite nice looking though.
01:50 (am). In Soi Cowboy after a very quick shower and change of clothes after having been travelling for 14 hours. Headed straight to Dollhouse go-go.
02:15 (am). After a beer and a lady drink for one of the girls in Dollhouse, the upstairs nude section, barfined her. 600 baht. I could probably have waited until the bar closed and saved the barfine, but I was eager to get things going. In fact, one of the reasons I was a bit stressed about hitting Soi Cowboy before 2 am was that I thought they might be closing at that time.
03:45 (am). Falling asleep after two rounds with a very nice girl. Slim, nicely done bolt-ons, very passionate, lots of fun.
Next morning (or later in the same day if you like) I headed to Soi 24 for a nice oily, but that's another story. At 2pm I headed to the airport again. It was a good way to spend 13 hours in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Harry Dude;1264060]The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, .[/QUOTE]Happened to me last time when I caught a taxi at departure level eading to LL at soi 33. All were asking 400b. (11. 15pm) and I rejected a few, then one said 400 incl highway toll. OK, I said, spent less otehr times, but what the heck, not going to spend the night at departure level looking for the deal of the century. 400-70 makes 320, acceptable for a night ride. The bestard of the taxi driver paid the 25b. Toll and then after sometimes gets out heading in town. I was surprised as I know usually they go through another toll gate and exit at Soi 4 and reaching Sukhumvit at Asoke. The bestard! Used the cheapest part of the highway and slipped the 45b. Toll gate!
All in all the trip length was ok and, damn! I am not going to make a fuzz for 45b.
PS: congratulation for your efficiency. I usually do a 16hrs stop over but in the wrong hours: landing at dawn and departing at midnight... can still to quite something, tho'
Too much primer on her face.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]
Nothing like a little pimping.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263139]Helllo BJ here.
A quick update regarding the Salon.
When we first opened I was told some interesting theories about Thailand's P4P forums by Aey, who is a small percentage holder in the salon. I must admit I was skeptical as to the validity of what I was told. She and now even owners and moderators of some forums basically explained to me that I should not be too concerned about some of the beyond belief posts, as they are probably written by people who have never even visited.
There is one forum which neither Aey nor myself even bother posting on, even though we are members and read it for a joke, the post's there are past ridiculous which only until the last few weeks have been not constantly negative and frankly outlandish.
For example.
Look like right slappers. If they look rough all tarted up, then they must be growlers in the flesh.
I agree. I would rather jack to Internet porn then be with them.
I left speculating I had just had my first (unintentional) experience with a "post-op".
Ruining the reputation on 7/1.
Sounds like crap. I ain't going.
I popped in and the motley crew at the balcony were very motley!
The rest were, really horrible, old and fat, some closer to 45 than 25.
I will probably never return unless they drop the age limit of their staff. Jeez they were too old and ugly to be working in a normal girly bar never mind a BJ bar, IMHO.
Dr BJ, should give them all a retirement certificate.
No young lookers in a BJ bar shock!
When we opened at the end of October we did have the odd few ladies who came here from Annie's mostly working in the morning, to get the business up and running, however as time has gone by we have recruited to our maximum capacity and the odd few Annie's ladies we did have are now blended in, at present 4 or 5.
Some of the criticism was that all the girls are past their sell by date, it is true that we do have some mature ladies here simply because a percentage of our customers want this type of lady and they are kept constantly busy, if they were not busy trust me they would have left or we would have moved them on. One of the best negative post's was that the salon has the ugliest girl's In the whole of Thailand, so I have posted some pictures here to let the forum readers decide for themselves.
I would like to add and I would post this as I own BJ's that we have some ladies that are better looking than many go-go bars and most massage shops, never mind a BJ bar in a back street of Bangkok.
In answer to some interesting comments on another forum about us having Japanese ladies, the younger white skinned girl pictured on this post is half Japanese; her friends call her something like Suki or a Japanese word I do not understand that seems popular in Thailand.
These are only a few of our ladies and I have now updated our site with a lot more pictures.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263769]Out of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]This is a membership forum, and we do not want to be bombarded with ads. Having said that, I believe Jackson does have some banner ads (or used to). I doubt if you sent a mail to Jackson as he is very courteous and does give a reply. So please stop proselytizing your bar in the forum. Go start another thread and you will have your own following.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1263969]Where can one find the cream of the crop girls in BKK, similar to the hottie in Bangkok Dangerous? I like girls like these ones, IMO, their hotness makes up for their aloofness.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zauberfee;1264038]I'd try some G-Clubs like The Bank, The Pimp or St. Moritz.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1263969]I would be willing to go above and beyond 1K Baht![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zauberfee;1264038]I really doubt that this amount will get it done with a real stunner[/QUOTE]The Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
Level 1: Rainbow 4. There are usually 4 or 5 very attractive girls on right hand stage when you enter R4. Standard prices apply: 600bt bar fine plus 2000bt ST, but don't be surprised if one of the hot ones asks for 2500bt.
Level 2: Soapy massage parlors – my favorite is La Belle – they have some very attractive girls here comparable in quality and price to Macau Sauna 'model' girls. The major differences are Chinese girls vs. Thai girls, there are more stunners in the Macau saunas at any given time than at even the best BKK soapy, and the price in Macau is around $250 for a 'model'. But be aware, La Belle charges a farang tax of 1000bt for white guys. I challenged the mamasan about this on one of my last visits. She played it dumb and insisted the fee goes straight to the girl ignoring my question of the add on charge. I responded that I was not questioning the price just the add on charge because I am white. She only repeated herself. So there you are. Take it or leave it. I take it and go there anyway because I like some of the girls and they are indeed a step up in quality from the Go Go's. Copa Cabana is another good place that I like and there is no farang charge here, but the quality is more hit or miss than at La Belle.
On my last visit to BKK in March, I visited La Belle twice. One time I took Yo #S70 – a nice looking girl who showed me a good time. S class girls are priced at 2700bt for a 90 minute session. Adding in the farang tax and Yo cost me 3700bt. On my 2nd visit to La Belle this March, I choose Nuy #P2. Nuy was a better looking girl with a better body and was naturally a higher priced girl than Yo. P class girls are priced at 3900bt so I was charged 4900bt for 90 minutes with Nuy.
We started with the Jacuzzi, then on the bed she licked me all over front and back including an anal rim and then she performed a good BBBJ. We finished off with a shag, cowgirl style. She was very sexy and I reached orgasm with more than 25 minutes still on the clock. I asked her for a 2nd shag. She said ok if I tipped her. I asked her how much of a tip she wanted and she smiled and said up to you. I agreed and she gave me a 2nd BBBJ to get me hard. This time I had more staying power. We started the 2nd shag with cowgirl again, then she twirled around my cock and we did reverse cowgirl. After a while I sat up and moved her into doggie. We went into overtime and I finished her off in mish. She is a real nice spinner girl in my book. She was ok with my taking some photos of her. I tipped her 500bt for the 2nd session and she was happy. She escorted me back to the lounge area where we kissed and said goodbye. I hung around and had some dinner. The squid in lime sauce was excellent (225bt). It was after 10pm when I left. I noticed a couple of real stunners had just arrived. One girl that was really gorgeous caught my eye. She was a D class sideline girl – or 4900bt not including the farang tax. Another time I told myself as I left.
Level 3: The G clubs. If you want the top talent in BKK, this is where you go. There are many different types of memberships available at these clubs and they are all negotiable. Basically you will pay a set fee for a certain number of bottles and / or lady drinks credited to you account. For example, a 20, 000bt membership will buy you 10 bottles of alcohol or 6 bottles of alcohol and 40 lady drinks. A membership is the way to go if you live in BKK and want access to this quality of girl. You will get a better response from the girls when they know you are a member. But, you don't have to buy a membership and you can just walk in as a quest and check things out if you want.
You are charged a lady drink approximately every 30 minutes or so that a girl is sitting with you. If she is a dancer (coyote) you are charged while she is dancing. A lady drink is about 300 baht. Don't even think about going to one of these places if you are not willing to spend 4, 000 – 5000bt and believe me, it is not that hard to spend a lot more if you are not careful. What does this get you? An amazing night and an introduction (access) to the best looking girls in BKK. That's all. There is no bar fine. If the girl likes you, she will give you her phone number and you can text her or call her up later and ask her out on a date. If all goes well, eventually on the 1st. 2nd, or 3rd date you will shag her. There is no guarantee. You are playing in the big leagues now.
Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
[url]http://www.maiake.com/[/url]
Great report! The price police will be all over you but who cares. I feel the same as you. I was wondering about these G clubs and now you have finally given some good info on them. I will check it out this weekend.
[QUOTE=Harry Dude;1264060]The taxi ride was extremely quick, the only detour was when the taxi driver decided to get off the freeway early and drive along Thanon Phetchaburi before turning left onto Soi 21 / Asoke, he obviously wanted to gawk at all the streetwalkers along this rather dark stretch of road. And he kept pointing them out to me and saying "Lady Market! Lady Market!" and laughing. These gals probably cater mostly to locals, I would presume. Some were quite nice looking though.[/QUOTE]Its actully quite normal to get off freeway before Asoke / Ratchadaphisek to avoid traffic jams, using Phet Uthai and then Kampangphet where those girls hang out, but maybe not necessary in the wee small hours.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]Can someone please direct me to the site for this be j bar so that I might try this little hottay out? If its against the rules to post lincs here you can send it to me via pm I am a member. Thanks in advance
LekNomForMe
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1264208]Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263442]One thing I can say is that unlike other similar shops in Thailand to us, we do not push all our ladies to sit outside the full day. I remember walking around some months ago checking out the similar outlets, seeing all the poor girls drenched in sweat, the odd lady that did put makeup on, you would see it all falling off their faces. Outside BJ's there is a token 3 or 4 at best, all the rest are relaxing inside with airconditioning being taken care of. The idea is, you come in and view the ladies in the lobby at your leisure, not walk briskly past see a few ladies and assume that is the sum total of our staff.
I would suggest then to allay your fears or disbelief that you should book one of our lovely white skin young ladies in advance and for sure, she will be waiting for you, as all pictures of our ladies are real and they all work for us.
Maybe this fine young darling with white skin attached.[/QUOTE]MR DR BJ.
I would like to ask you the lady you put just hear is she a Nurse. Or Consultant?
I have been to you BJ bar And I did see it on the web befor I go there and I think AKKA76 is right your site is misleading website when I was go there. There was only one Nurse. And maybe 15 consultant and 700 is the price for a BJ not 1, 000.
So there was only one to pick from?
If all lady's are Nurse price I will go back if not I will not go again.
For whoever is interested, I found Ambien in the pharmacies in PatPong. They are easier to deal with than the ones in Suk.
Good report on G clubs Natty, thanks for that.
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1263777]I won't even be giving Dr BJ the benefit of the doubt after his recent ramblings on these boards. Disrespecting potential customers and attacking your competitors is not the way to make a good impression of a new business trying to make it in a tough market.[/QUOTE]I don't know Dr BJ and I don't even go to BJ bars, but I haven't seen him disrespecting anyone. Are you delusional? And the man posted a lot of posts about his experiences with no marketing in them, I think he is allowed the odd informative post about his bar. I don't see why we need to be negative about it. I wish we could get such easy access to every bar owner in BKK!
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1264371]Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.[/QUOTE]Now if that girl will provide PSE sex then maybe it will be worth it. But I still question, why? You can stay home (wherever that may be) and spend that kind of money and go on "dates" with pros or non-pros.
If I am spending that kind of money, it really better be all about me, not about trying to romance a gal who is looking for a "sponsor." But to each his own. Glad it is out there for you to enjoy.
Nice write up Natty, it sounds like a good time for sure. I've never been to these G-clubs yet, but will be going for sure next time I'm in BKK.. which.. will be in a few weeks :) I enjoy the hunt for hot chicks and will not settle for low quality. (that's why I don't drink too much when I'm out and about LOL)
The G-club thing ain't for the cheap charlies that's for sure. Seems whenever the these venues get brought up, the cheap charlies come out of the wood work and say it's paying a lot of money for nothing, but it goes beyond just picking out a dark skinned issarn girl for 1k baht..
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1264400]The G-club thing ain't for the cheap charlies that's for sure. Seems whenever the these venues get brought up, the cheap charlies come out of the wood work and say it's paying a lot of money for nothing, but it goes beyond just picking out a dark skinned issarn girl for 1k baht.[/QUOTE]Indeed, I never understand why someone has to flame if somebody decides to go the upper level and pay for that. If one can afford it.
Something is paying 3000 for the same girl anotehr one just had for 1000 (but even then.) , something else is having a totally different experience, location etc.
An airplane flies you from A to B and all passengers leave and arrive at same time, be them in first class, business class and coach. According to the cheap charlie concept first and business shoudl not exist. They do not see the point that maybe first and business class give the airline some extra revenue allowing cheap fares in coach.
It is also true that when mongering the higher price doesn't necessarily mean higher return, but when one goes in a club, in general and on principle, the service and environment is better than a mobile bar on a sidewalk.
YMMV and each one his own.
I don't condemn (much) the cheap charlies for their attitude, they should not criticize the high spenders.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1264382]I wish we could get such easy access to every bar owner in BKK![/QUOTE]Very good point! Just as Aye gives interesting contributions on her Annie's establishment, it is not bad to get the insights from Dr. BJ.
I don't rate those as ads, but updates or news bulletin. And honest.
I also agree, Dr BJ often reports on his own mongering adventures. So at the end he mixes all up pretty well.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1264208]Arguably the hottest G club at the moment is the Maiake Club. I checked this place out when I was last in BKK and I was very impressed. The club is amazing. I spent around 3 hours in the club. My tab came to over 5000bt. I met a seriously beautiful girl there and we got on well. I did not get a chance to lay her because I did not have enough time left in BKK to go out with her. I have her cell number and we have been Yahoo Messaging each other since we met. Hopefully, she will still be around when I return to BKK in October.
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
[url]http://www.maiake.com/[/url][/QUOTE]G clubs appear in part to be a farm system for rich and powerful Thais and East Asians to skim off new talent for their personal collections, meaning the top end girls generally aren't going to around very long anyways.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1264424]Very good point! Just as Aye gives interesting contributions on her Annie's establishment, it is not bad to get the insights from Dr. BJ.
I don't rate those as ads, but updates or news bulletin. And honest.
I also agree, Dr BJ often reports on his own mongering adventures. So at the end he mixes all up pretty well.[/QUOTE]I like his reports as well. Nice to hear info from the owner's mouth.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1264448]I like his reports as well. Nice to hear info from the owner's mouth.[/QUOTE]Let's not forget the add-on of an owner psoting here: he reads also comments and can address issues regarding his own establishment and that maybe he is not aware of or does not think of.
He promptly adjusted the photogallery of his website with references to each girl.
Very effective.
I can't imagine the same happening in a normal situation with a custoemr writing to the website postmaster etc.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1264371]Congratulations on paying 5000 baht to get a girl's Yahoo Messenger name. I can only imagine all the stimulating conversations you have.[/QUOTE]Can you post a report please?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1264208]The Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
[url]http://www.maiake.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link to this club. There are indeed some beauties in there. I can see that spending a night with any of them would be expensive, but worth it.
As far as spending in that price range, if you can afford it. Why not? We only have a short time on this planet and can't take the money with us. Money buys experiences of all sorts. I am a cheap charlie at heart. I actually enjoy down and dirty, low budget venues like you can find in Chinatown. But I also like to fly and stay in the higher classes and also enjoy a high class entertainment venue on occasion.
Even so, this club can still tickle the cheap charlie in me if I compare it to somewhere like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada where a monger can easily spend those same figures but in USD and still not get anything as delicious as I see on this club's website. A US$5000 three hour party is standard for the hotties in Nevada, so 5000 or 10, 000 baht for those girls is damn cheap!
This club will be a must do for my next trip.
Thanks.
Pogo
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1264208]The Cream in BKK.
* Warning: Don't read this post if spending large bothers you *
For those who might be interested, here is the club's website:
[url]http://www.maiake.com/[/url][/QUOTE]THANK YOU, after a few weeks of ethnic bashing, trashing other's spending habits, and other pure bullshit, finally some new information that's worth sharing. Nice report NB.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1263769]Out of all of my posts this is only the second or third regarding the salon. Most of them have been about my experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya, how many field reports have you posted? Not singular comments but actual real life experiences I. E a savvy punter with boots on the ground etc? This is not a dig at you, as I am genurly interested in your posts, if you can add links to the forum, I will read through and take on your insider knowledge.
In respect of my post being advertising "no it is not" it was more in reply to multiple questions across many forums but if it is taken as that then ok my bad but this was not the intention. I have actually tried to contact 2 regional moderators and Jackson himself over a period of 5 months to enquire about paid advertising on this forum and got no reply. I have the banners and everything ready and waiting. If anyone in authority could contact me if advertising is possible I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion regarding banners?
Around a year and a half ago? A big discussion accured on this board regarding a particular banner. It got pretty heated and lots of accusation and negative opinions were thrown at Jackson. In the end, he deleted many of the post and some members were moderated for their harsh opinions. During that time I can only remember two Banners, Devils Den and Penthouse Hotel which started the whole thing. Once the banner went up the Penthouse also got their own thread and a heated discussion started after a member posted a negative review of the hotel. Many negative opinions directed at Jackson whether he should have even accepted the advertisement banner because many felt within his own ISG rules there was not to be any discussion about Ladyboys? Many felt Penthouse Hotel was a Ladyboy hotel or the club within the hotel was full of ladyboys? My own opinions directed at Jackson, wasn't of whether the hotel / club was for ladyboys it was that the owner of the hotel or spokeman was unprofessional regarding addressing the negative comments assuming that the poster was a liar or just making up the review or never even staying there. Regardless, this is all under the bridge and need no further discussion!
Regardless, I did notice the last time the site was shutdown to be revamped when it came up all the banners were gone? Penthouse and Devil Den. Based on the above respond and just reading some of the comments directed at B. J. (I have nothing against him) personally I hope you will not be able to post your banner. The signs are already there that it will get out of control although I agree you have been pretty objective regarding your post and not pushing your establishment. I'm not a big fan of starting more thread in fact I wish Jackson would consolidate and deleted many. Once everything is cleaned up maybe a new thread B. J. Establishments?
LBM
This is disturbing:
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm[/url]
Apparently every time a foreigner enters a hotel with a prostitute, that information will be added to his immigration records. Presumably that could possibly be used against a foreigner if he were were applying for a job or visa. Also, Thai prostitutes who have sex with foreigners off the premises of their place of employment will be required to get an ID card and have it renewed every 3 months. This ID card must be presented to the hotel and she must be registered before she'll be allowed to enter a room with a foreigner.
There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? Will this apply to short time hotels? What will the effect be on freelancers or semi-pros? (To get the ID card, the woman needs to have no criminal record and be willing to go to a government hospital every three months at renewal time to get an STD check.)
[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1264522]This is disturbing:
[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Naughty-Boys-Hell.htm[/url]
Apparently every time a foreigner enters a hotel with a prostitute, that information will be added to his immigration records. Presumably that could possibly be used against a foreigner if he were were applying for a job or visa. Also, Thai prostitutes who have sex with foreigners off the premises of their place of employment will be required to get an I'd card and have it renewed every 3 months. This I'd card must be presented to the hotel and she must be registered before she'll be allowed to enter a room with a foreigner.
There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? Will this apply to short time hotels? What will the effect be on freelancers or semi-pros? (To get the I'd card, the woman needs to have no criminal record and be willing to go to a government hospital every three months at renewal time to get an STD check.) [/QUOTE]Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1264578]Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicized it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.[/QUOTE]Like so many things, it's not how the law is written, it's in the 'implementation'. If they can't implement the registration card, then nothing else will fall into place. I wouldn't be too worried for now.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1264598]Like so many things, it's not how the law is written, it's in the 'implementation'. If they can't implement the registration card, then nothing else will fall into place. I wouldn't be too worried for now.[/QUOTE]You're pulling my leg, right? They tried this in San Seriffe years ago, and it didn't work then.
[url]http://wikitravel.org/en/San_Serriffe[/url]
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1264578]Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.[/QUOTE]
Stickman:
"Every hotel in Thailand is required to report to the Immigration Department on a daily basis all foreigners staying in the hotel. The report includes the guest's name, nationality and passport number. This system has been in place for a long time. The new regulations mean that the sex worker's details must be recorded to show that she spent time with the foreign national. Essentially, these details are added to the foreign visitor's Immigration record, and not a central database of the Foreign Service Worker Card holders!"
LOL. Fantastic weekly column!
Stickman is a bastard. I will kick his ass when I meet him next time. ROFLMAO.
Giotto
PS: Most likely the Thai immigration will report all the details to the families address of the "foreigner" ... you then reach San Serriffe by Tsunami!
[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1264522].
There are some interesting ramifications. Does it mean your good girl date is going to be accused of being a prostitute and barred entrance to your hotel? .[/QUOTE]Tiny 12,
Don't worry.
Mrs. Giotto applied for the "Foreign Service Worker's Card" already. And she still doesn't feel like a prostitute. I am more worried about the RFID chip inside the card. Connected to a movement detector we have to install below the bed that registers all activities. Damned Thai bureaucracy! They definitely want to know everything.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound; 1264443]Who are you? The Dr BJ apologist? Either that or he has been servicing you.
The facts are he came on here giving it the big one on here and has put alot of potential business off coming his way. If you have a little look back through his posts you will see the disrespect, attitude, and unnecessary attacks that I am referring to.[/QUOTE]Wolf Hound,
With all due respect: Who are you (if I am allowed to ask )?
I know Dr. BJ, he is a nice guy (strange nationality though). What beef do you have with him?
Look, write some reports about the places you like. And if you don't like the Salon - Ok! Of course - Dr. BJ runs his business here in Bangkok, but WE ALL KNOW THAT. HE TOLD US FROM THE BEGINNING.
So what?
Giotto
PS: 10 posts, and NO INFORMATION for the members at all.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1264644]Mrs. Giotto applied for the "Foreign Service Worker's Card" already.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Mrs. G or do you mean Auntie? LOL.
PS. Mouse. I was trying to keep the chit chat going, you ruined it!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1264647]Mrs. G or do you mean Auntie? LOL.
PS. Mouse. I was trying to keep the chit chat going, you ruined it![/QUOTE]T1234,
Difficult to distinguish. No comment without talking to my lawyer first.
Giotto
I took a day off today. Spending some time in the lower Sukhumvit area.
Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
Spent some time at Bangkok Beat Soi 7/1 (where the Eden Club is).10:30 pm. 11:30 pm, the selection of girls was a catastrophe (compared to a year ago, when I was there last time). The place is a gay mens club now.
Midnight: Climax. Still ok, though empty. Some lookers there. But not many. And - lots of young men competing with me handsome young man with a large wallet. Fuck them! Damned, if the young men cannot get laid any more without coming to Thailand - how will all this end up?
The nightlife scene in Bangkok is changing. I have no idea what is going on. But what I saw today is worrisome. I would not call this a "selection" at all.
Last week I visited Patpong, first time in 18 months. Forget it! Gogo Bars empty. Lot's of ladyboys! No fun at all.
Yikes! I hope the yellow shirts will close the airport again, for the next 2 years or so.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1264653]Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
Giotto[/QUOTE]The times are a'changing. So sad. Hope things turn around!
In regard to Stickman's report which he published on April 1 (April Fools Day in most Farang based countries even Iran) , when I went to cross check the story, I couldn't find any original sources, nor does Stickman provide any links. I could only find a reference to certain Governors in Thailand calling for enforecement of an old exixting rule on hotels tracking foreign guests, but this to help the with terrorist issues.
1. The story if true in practical terms would probably take down a large portion of the commerical sex trade in Thailand, along with much of the economy. Among other things, every married visitor doing ST or LT to a hotel (but not ST in a ST bar I would guess) with a with a bar girl would end up with a permanent record containing precise info of every single bar girl he has been with, along with time and location. Supposedly not at a central data base but just on his permanent immigration card? LOL You believe Thailand will do that? The article talks about Thais concerned about Farangs parading WG's around, but the regulations do nothing to address any such displays. Thais of course exempted from all this. LOL.
2. It appears to exempt massage parlours, escort services, and and many other venues.
3. Those renting apartments or having long term stay arrangements would be exempt.
4. Not only no impact on free lancers, it would encourage even more workers to become free lancers, probably adding to the HIV issue.
5. The regulation does nothing to fix the central crisis in regard to HIV in Thailand, the extraordinary high rates of HIV in the gay community. Stats currently show one third of all gays in Bangkok show up as HIV positive, an incredibly high number, and it would seem they would stop Lady Boys from engaging in prostitution as that is where the major problem is, yet the regulation does nothing.
6. As far as Thais supposedly disgusted with Farangs behavior, what about the 2nd wives issue, which is known to be prevalent in Thailand. That's also a moral issue.
7. For many ex Pats living in Thailand would be a windfall as WG prices would drop, and as non hotel users, they would be exempt. Not sure if the government would want to encourage more Sex Pat types
What's with the sudden rash of posts from this Giotto character. Is there anything useful at all in them, as I cannot take anything he says seriously. Is he gearing up for the next flood season? Is he trying to upstage BJ man for advertising? Is soi 33 really dead? Does one have to be a guest at his lodge to get helpful advise? C'man, Gboy, tell us what you found in low sukh, the FL & SW's there, with pics of course, and especially the NPL & hotel. And don't forget Liquid disco. LOL.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1264575]Hahahahahaha! We all know good girls who go to hotels are prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Harold, Actually all girls who f*ck are prostitutes.
Rehashing what many have said before, it's just that the wives and girlfriends cost a lot more. Mrs. G for instance -- it's refreshing that there's at least one woman in this world that recognizes that and has even gone so far as to get her Foreign Service Worker's Card.
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1264443]Who are you? The Dr BJ apologist? Either that or he has been servicing you.[/QUOTE]No, I've never met the guy, never been to his bar and not planning to go, I don't do BJ bars. I just don't like negative attitudes and I think your criticism is unwarranted. Brighten up and post something useful. So far Dr. BJ beats you easily in the useful posts category.
[QUOTE=Western787;1264726]In regard to Stickman's report [b]which he published on April 1 (April Fools Day[/b] in most Farang based countries even Iran) , when I went to cross check the story, I couldn't find any original sources, nor does Stickman provide any links.[/QUOTE]Duh....
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1264653]I took a day off today. Spending some time in the lower Sukhumvit area.
Soi 33 is dying, no customers at all. We had the worst March ever. And I doubt that the road will recover.
Spent some time at Bangkok Beat Soi 7/1 (where the Eden Club is).10:30 pm. 11:30 pm, the selection of girls was a catastrophe (compared to a year ago, when I was there last time). The place is a gay mens club now.
Midnight: Climax. Still ok, though empty. Some lookers there. But not many. And. Lots of young men competing with me handsome young man with a large wallet. Fuck them! Damned, if the young men cannot get laid any more without coming to Thailand. How will all this end up?
The nightlife scene in Bangkok is changing. I have no idea what is going on. But what I saw today is worrisome. I would not call this a "selection" at all.
Last week I visited Patpong, first time in 18 months. Forget it! Gogo Bars empty. Lot's of ladyboys! No fun at all.
Yikes! I hope the yellow shirts will close the airport again, for the next 2 years or so.
Giotto[/QUOTE]I would say the scene will never recover its former glory. Development has caught up with BKK and the "scene," especially Sukhumvit. Reasons? Lots of 'them. Changing demographics for one. Lower Sukhumvit is a disaster. No longer the domain of Western tourists, the place is now populated with Middle Easterners, Africans, and Indians, not the working girls favorites for sure and I believe it keeps many of them out of the area. The street market till midnight and the bars littering the street at night see filth at a new level. BG Soi 7 is abysmal. Most of the ladies working there could be grandmothers and many have the stones to ask for 1. 5k. Thermae is indeed the playground for the Japanese now, and to tell you the truth there are some cuties there but nowhere near what was seen even a year ago.
Working girls also are well aware of their value now. Hotties work the late night discos, Hotels, G Clubs, and with the atmospheric rise in salaries among Thai workers (educated that is) , there are fewer "part timers." GoGo girls that are attractive work in a few select bars where they command big money, leaving most GoGos devoid of talent. So the "market" is in fact killing the "market." There seem to be way more punters than there are great looking girls these days, a trend I am afraid will continue.
Prices are another factor. BKK is not longer a cheap playground, and before all of you start your "I'm rich" ranting please just look at the economics. Dinner and drinks with the boys, drinks, BF, and ST with a GoGo girl used to run around 3k baht or 75 USD "back in the day." I would say you would be hard pressed to do that for double these days. Yes, that does effect business and does effect the number of guys that come here from Western countries. I see fewer and fewer of the regulars here.
Me, I rarely go out to the "bars" these days. Prices aside, it is just not really "fun" anymore. There are other things that I love about this city and country, food, the up and coming Thai Football league, hanging with friends and drinking a good beer (for the same price as a local brew in Cowboy) , and hitting the oilies in the afternoon when the mood stirs within me.
Things change. BKK is the most dynamic place I have ever lived. It will continue to evolve and the "scene" as we know it will change along with it, and I would think not to most of our likings, but hey, every day there is some newbie who is getting his first piece of bought Thai tail and thinks he has found heaven and for awhile he will sit on his cloud while we are left with our memories of the "good ole days" and to try and squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of the place while we still can. I'm staying.
Peace!
Arrived in BKK at 5am this morning and checked in at hotel two hours later. I do recommend the VIP service at:
[url]http://www.limousine.in.th/fast-track-immigration.html.[/url]
Really smooth sailing through immigration out to the waiting limo. At 3600 BHT roundtrip it is a steal when you have been flying all night.
After a little nap and shopping of essentials went for first goal: Annies Soapy Massage which is just around the corner from hotel. Good selection of girls at 2PM and I choose nr 69. She's a tiny girl with a nice bubble butt and proceedings followed what I assume is the standard schedule. Soapy massage with the little tiny thing sliding around both front and back then into the tub for a thorough scrub. Then followed a very nice BBBJ in the tub until CIM.
Wash off and onto the bed for an oil massage that proceeded into an oily HJ. Decided to not cum cause I wanted to save it for later but she had a lovely tight pussy (trimmed but not shaved, just the way I like it). Very nice to eat from behind.
Basic english with loads of accent so hard to understand but a nice personality I got along fine with and a trooper who BJ to completion although her small mouth was stretching rather wide. I called it quits after 1. 30 hrs and went to get a beer at a bar across NANA. Seems to be a good selection of young SWs in the afternoon already. Some SG types if you're into that. Now naptime and NANA later, an establishment I conveniently can look down at from my room. Good times in LOS,
Cal
[QUOTE=Harold444;1264214]I respect you and what you pay. But please stop implying stunners will go with you for 1, 000. For 1000 you'll be lucky to get below avg. Looker![/QUOTE]Huh? Maybe re-read my post, I said quite the opposite: "I believe ST will be a fair bit more than 1K (BF will eat most of that up) , and you will generally have to hit it off or be fairly generous with LDs (and offered fee) to make it happen." 1K will only cover the BF and lady drinks for most 'stunners', especially in Bangkok, and then you will pay a pretty penny for the lady as well.
All girls I consider stunners (and even a few that were not) cost me 2000K. 3000K LT, and that is after BF, LDs and a fair amount of shmoozing.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1264646]Wolf Hound,
With all due respect: Who are you (if I am allowed to ask )?
I know Dr. BJ, he is a nice guy (strange nationality though). What beef do you have with him?
Look, write some reports about the places you like. And if you don't like the Salon. Ok! Of course. Dr. BJ runs his business here in Bangkok, but WE ALL KNOW THAT. HE TOLD US FROM THE BEGINNING.
So what?
Giotto.
PS: 10 posts, and no information for the members at all.[/QUOTE]Practice what you preach!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1264730]Is soi 33 really dead? Does one have to be a guest at his lodge to get helpful advise?[/QUOTE]Soi 33 is not seeing much action otehr than the ladies trying to pull in the few men passing by.
This is what I have witnesssed in a few nights in the recent 3 weeks.
Livingstone Lodge sees a new bunch of girls in the Sports Bar, but language is at a challenge in communicating with some of them due to english skills. Seems a refreshening took place in the last weeks.
Probably the team is not yet sorted as one I picked up one night was not there anymore less than a week later, and was not missing as BF'd.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1264876]I would say the scene will never recover its former glory. Development has caught up with BKK and the "scene," especially Sukhumvit. Reasons? Lots of 'them. Changing demographics for one. Lower Sukhumvit is a disaster. No longer the domain of Western tourists, the place is now populated with Middle Easterners, Africans, and Indians, not the working girls favorites for sure and I believe it keeps many of them out of the area. The street market till midnight and the bars littering the street at night see filth at a new level. BG Soi 7 is abysmal. Most of the ladies working there could be grandmothers and many have the stones to ask for 1. 5k. Thermae is indeed the playground for the Japanese now, and to tell you the truth there are some cuties there but nowhere near what was seen even a year ago.
Working girls also are well aware of their value now. Hotties work the late night discos, Hotels, G Clubs, and with the atmospheric rise in salaries among Thai workers (educated that is) , there are fewer "part timers." GoGo girls that are attractive work in a few select bars where they command big money, leaving most GoGos devoid of talent. So the "market" is in fact killing the "market." There seem to be way more punters than there are great looking girls these days, a trend I am afraid will continue.
Prices are another factor. BKK is not longer a cheap playground, and before all of you start your "I'm rich" ranting please just look at the economics. Dinner and drinks with the boys, drinks, BF, and ST with a GoGo girl used to run around 3k baht or 75 USD "back in the day." I would say you would be hard pressed to do that for double these days. Yes, that does effect business and does effect the number of guys that come here from Western countries. I see fewer and fewer of the regulars here.
Me, I rarely go out to the "bars" these days. Prices aside, it is just not really "fun" anymore. There are other things that I love about this city and country, food, the up and coming Thai Football league, hanging with friends and drinking a good beer (for the same price as a local brew in Cowboy) , and hitting the oilies in the afternoon when the mood stirs within me.
Things change. BKK is the most dynamic place I have ever lived. It will continue to evolve and the "scene" as we know it will change along with it, and I would think not to most of our likings, but hey, every day there is some newbie who is getting his first piece of bought Thai tail and thinks he has found heaven and for awhile he will sit on his cloud while we are left with our memories of the "good ole days" and to try and squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of the place while we still can. I'm staying.
Peace![/QUOTE]Thailand has basically zero unemployment now, many places cannot get workers for real jobs, let alone being a slapper. This leads to increasing wages and prices and a big drop in the supply of girls.
The girls are getting more educated, they know its easy to rip farangs off via the internet, they know they can get more money for less bang by going to nighclubs, hotel clubs, G-clubs. And so this leads to a drop in girls servicing tourists.
The girls themselves are complaining over a lack of farang tourists and this is leading to many changing their profession or the way they go about it.
I enjoy BKK greatly, but I am not a tourist and have the luxury of time, which allows me to play the game how I want to play it.
The girls too are complaining that the scene is changing. They are not happy as well. But change it will. Even if all parties are not happy about it. Things always change.
With all the negative Nancies on here proclaiming BKK is about as fun as spending time with middle aged soccer moms in Utah, I should just cancel my holiday, stay home, and fap to kaintuck's photo thread!
I'll still take my chances.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1265043]With all the negative Nancies on here proclaiming BKK is about as fun as spending time with middle aged soccer moms in Utah, I should just cancel my holiday, stay home, and fap to kaintuck's photo thread!
I'll still take my chances.[/QUOTE]Ha ha Tony, couldn't agree more. Reading 40+ posts back in this thread and I'm considering killing myself because I just bought a ticket for BKK. Reading here makes it seem like the worst mistake of my life.
I have to say that I was a little bit disappointed by heaven aka. Nana Entertainment Plaza. If I was in a bad mood I'd call it dirty, smelly with hundreds of bored to death girls shuffling their feet. However, I assume it's an acquired taste and I'll certainly be back to try my luck again.
Went through 6 or 7 gogos without finding anything in particular but, go figure, in Obsession the LB's were obviously the most gorgeous bunch of them all. Haven't had one since Amsterdam two years ago so I happily invited Joy over for a drink. There is no way I could have told that she's not a pure lady. Extremely pretty early 20's preop with decent English (she claims she's 19 and I could believe that if I didn't know better). Took her short time upstairs for some fun and games. She's got a super realistic see-cup, tight ass and great body but she's very passive. Will not repeat even though she's smoking.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1264975]9 years going to BKK and I've seen little change, maybe a little change in popular venues but BKK is same same! Corrupt countries see very little change-which is what most of us want. Hahahaha.
We don't need another Hong kong or Singapore on our hands.[/QUOTE]But in effect, that is what you are getting, well, on the surface that is. Sukhumvit is turning into one big mall. From Siam to The Emporium, all you have are shopping malls and hotels. They are even tearing down the Scala theater to make room for more shopping. They are doing their best to emulate Sing and HK, except they don't have the infrastructure, the transparency, etc. So in effect, it is the worst of two worlds.
The only problem with Sing is the cost. Bars stay open late and there is plenty of P4P available and you can actually make money there.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1264891]Practice what you preach![/QUOTE]Mooris7,
Now you make me feel bad! Sitting here, completely depressed, how could it happen that I did not live up to the high standards of the reports in this thread? Shouldn't we continue our discussions about overpaying and tipping? You really made me think, my friend.
Let's see, what I can do for you.
I was out again yesterday! Let's start with the area around Washington Square.
[b][u]Washington Square[/b][/u]
Most of the bars are now closed there. They had to move out on 01. 03. 2012, a major construction project is due to start soon. But. Obviously there are some delays, the last remaining bars got an extension of their lease agreement for another 3 months, and some managers are expecting this to continue until the end of this year.
[b]Bourbon Street:[/b] Gone. They opened somewhere else. I read that somewhere, but I don't remember where.
[b]Sportsmanclub[/b]: (the bar located on the ground floor of the old Mambo cabaret building) Deserted. 5 customers in this huge bar / restaurant / pool bar.
[b]Dubliner:[/b] Still some customers, BUT NO LEFFE BEER. What the hell ... why do I go there then, if they don't have LEFFE draft?
[b][u]Soi 33[/b][/u]
[b]Wall Street:[/b] 5 girls, no customer.
[b]Lookie Lookie:[/b] some girls, no customer.
[b]Green Parrot:[/b] some girls, no customer.
[b]No-name bar:[/b] (A new bar at the end of the side road close to Wall Street, left hand side) had some customer, but no girls.
[b]Dali:[/b] first time, that I was in there in years now. Dali made my day yesterday.
The owner merged Dali with Monet (same owner) on the old Dali premises. The arrangement is strange. Dali was cut in half, a wall was build in the middle of the old Dali. The bar (before a round setup in the middle of the old Dal)i is now cut in half, too. One half is in the new Dali, the other half in Monet.
Dali still employes the 204 year old beautiful Mamasan, one of the unique "landmarks" of Soi 33. And. There are approximately 10 girls working there. 4 or 5 of them lookers. Tall girls, slim. Nice to look at. A friend of mine took one of them out, THB 840 bar fine (after 11 pm, strange amount). A looker, but a non-performer.
[b]Monet:[/b] The other half of the old Dali. 4.6 girls dressed in red yesterday, not worth to mention. The older generation of the combined Dali / Monet girls crew. Grandmothers party.
That was it for yesterday.
...
Mooris7, I hope makes up a little bit for my disastrous contributions of the past to this forum. And I would really post a photo, but I simply don't have a picture from you. So sorry!
OK, now you, something informative like this:
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1240339]...
Don't insult me again or I would be happy to meet you somewhere and we can see how far from middle school I really am. You know I hate people who talk big behind a computer but can't do anything in person. Sorry Jackson in advance for posting this but he rally got under my skin! I apologize to other forum members![/QUOTE]I hope you don't feel insulted by my report about Washington Square and Soi 33 – I apologize for my writing style, but sadly I did not make it to middle school.
Giotto
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1264929]Thailand has basically zero unemployment now, many places cannot get workers for real jobs, let alone being a slapper. This leads to increasing wages and prices and a big drop in the supply of girls.
The girls are getting more educated, they know its easy to rip farangs off via the internet, they know they can get more money for less bang by going to nighclubs, hotel clubs, G-clubs. And so this leads to a drop in girls servicing tourists.
The girls themselves are complaining over a lack of farang tourists and this is leading to many changing their profession or the way they go about it.
I enjoy BKK greatly, but I am not a tourist and have the luxury of time, which allows me to play the game how I want to play it.
The girls too are complaining that the scene is changing. They are not happy as well. But change it will. Even if all parties are not happy about it. Things always change.[/QUOTE]The Pro,
I completely agree, precise analysis.
It's more important than ever to know the places that are "in" right now, and also to know the service providers of the oilies / soapies. Bangkok still offers plenty of opportunities to have fun. But more than ever before the hunters need to know where and to whom they need to go.
Giotto
C'mon you guys! Stop whining and complaining about the state of play.
What Bangkok was like 5, 10 or 20 years ago is irrelevant. It's what it is like today that counts.
Bangkok is still loaded with chicks, ready, willing and able to play. Pro's, part timers and amateurs abound in this city!
You don't have to lower your standards, but you may have to raise your game in this more competitive market.
This board is about the exchange of information to enable you to do this.
There are many social media available to be used, the game is changing, adapt or miss out.
The glass is half full, not half empty.
Enjoy this great city and everything it has to offer!
Tuck.
Unemployment is very low in Thailand (officially 1%). That said, what an uneducated Isaan girl straight off the bus can make in a job (about 7, 000 baht monthly) still makes the working life an attractive one.
I think the problem is more that bar-oriented farang and japanese tourists are at a real low. Between the 2008 economic crisis, the 2011 EU crisis and the Japanese earthquake, less people are in a heavy spending mood, despite some of the bragging you see on this forum. Thai Tourism is trying to replace them with Chinese, Russians and Indians. But the Chinese come in big tour groups of 50 or 60 with women and children and don't speak any English, Russian men always bring their wives and girlfriends and don't seem too interested in thai bargirls, and the Indians aren't allowed into gogo bars.
I visited Pattaya recently and it's now almost all Russians except for a few Indians. I heard it in Phnom Penh too. "Boring now. No customer".
Put all this together, combined with rising prices and an exchange rate that isn't as great anymore, and revenue is likely dropping.
Washington Square and Soi 33 are dying first and only the biggest name places seem to still have a good flow of customers. The industry as a whole will have to rethink itself.
Many I'm sure would like Bangkok to turn into Singapore or HK, but I can see that failing. There simply isn't the international business here to make that sustainable.
For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill;1265244]For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]Yep.
To make a long story short, OTH got himself into a pissing contest with Jackson and lost.
He found out the hard way it's Jackson's forum.
It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market).
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck; 1265228]C'mon you guys! Stop whining and complaining about the state of play.
What Bangkok was like 5, 10 or 20 years ago is irrelevant. It's what it is like today that counts.
Bangkok is still loaded with chicks, ready, willing and able to play. Pro's, part timers and amateurs abound in this city!
You don't have to lower your standards, but you may have to raise your game in this more competitive market.
This board is about the exchange of information to enable you to do this.
There are many social media available to be used, the game is changing, adapt or miss out.
The glass is half full, not half empty.
Enjoy this great city and everything it has to offer!
Tuck.[/QUOTE]Tomorrow I plan to pay my first visit to Nana Plaza. I plan to check out playschool. Anyone interested PM me
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1265196]Mooris7,
Now you make me feel bad! Sitting here, completely depressed, how could it happen that I did not live up to the high standards of the reports in this thread? Shouldn't we continue our discussions about overpaying and tipping? You really made me think, my friend.
Let's see, what I can do for you.
I was out again yesterday! Let's start with the area around Washington Square.
[b][u]Washington Square[/b][/u]
Most of the bars are now closed there. They had to move out on 01. 03. 2012, a major construction project is due to start soon. But. Obviously there are some delays, the last remaining bars got an extension of their lease agreement for another 3 months, and some managers are expecting this to continue until the end of this year.
[b]Bourbon Street:[/b] Gone. They opened somewhere else. I read that somewhere, but I don't remember where.
[b]Sportsmanclub[/b]: (the bar located on the ground floor of the old Mambo cabaret building) Deserted. 5 customers in this huge bar / restaurant / pool bar.
[b]Dubliner:[/b] Still some customers, BUT NO LEFFE BEER. What the hell. Why do I go there then, if they don't have LEFFE draft?
[b][u]Soi 33[/b][/u]
[b]Wall Street:[/b] 5 girls, no customer.
[b]Lookie Lookie:[/b] Some girls, no customer.
[b]Green Parrot:[/b] Some girls, no customer.
[b]No-name bar:[/b] (A new bar at the end of the side road close to Wall Street, left hand side) had some customer, but no girls.
[b]Dali:[/b] First time, that I was in there in years now. Dali made my day yesterday.
The owner merged Dali with Monet (same owner) on the old Dali premises. The arrangement is strange. Dali was cut in half, a wall was build in the middle of the old Dali. The bar (before a round setup in the middle of the old Dal) I is now cut in half, too. One half is in the new Dali, the other half in Monet.
Dali still employes the 204 year old beautiful Mamasan, one of the unique "landmarks" of Soi 33. And. There are approximately 10 girls working there. 4 or 5 of them lookers. Tall girls, slim. Nice to look at. A friend of mine took one of them out, THB 840 bar fine (after 11 pm, strange amount). A looker, but a non-performer.
[b]Monet:[/b] The other half of the old Dali. 4.6 girls dressed in red yesterday, not worth to mention. The older generation of the combined Dali / Monet girls crew. Grandmothers party.
That was it for yesterday.
Mooris7, I hope makes up a little bit for my disastrous contributions of the past to this forum. And I would really post a photo, but I simply don't have a picture from you. So sorry!
OK, now you, something informative like this:
I hope you don't feel insulted by my report about Washington Square and Soi 33 – I apologize for my writing style, but sadly I did not make it to middle school.
Giotto[/QUOTE]I don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back. How about a massage report? Your last experience at Nataree perhaps. Not to years ago but recently. Anyways cheers to you bud for being the king of Bangkok. Where in your mind, prices are too high. The young guys steel all the stunners, bar fines are too high bla bla bla. I invite you out tomorrow to go to Nana for my first visit there. Beers on me. I want to see the legend in action.
I think there is a good chance OTH has left Thailand anyway because he got canned from his relatively well paid university job and is probably pushing 60, which makes his chances of getting something similar quite remote. He seemed tired of Thailand in general and Thais in particular. When that happens it is time to pull the plug and move back home. JMPO
[QUOTE=One Tree Hill;1265244]For some reason it just dawned on me that he no longer post here. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]Quite a few who have left the Board since OTH's rantings of a couple of years ago.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1265265]I don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back. How about a massage report? Your last experience at Nataree perhaps. Not to years ago but recently. Anyways cheers to you bud for being the king of Bangkok. Where in your mind, prices are too high. The young guys steel all the stunners, bar fines are too high bla bla bla. I invite you out tomorrow to go to Nana for my first visit there. Beers on me. I want to see the legend in action.[/QUOTE]Are you then looking to know how stretchable is the girl p* to host the big farang boner?
Do you want to know if that specific girl, forgetting YMMV, is a performer? Maybe supported by gyno pictures proving it was a real intercourse and not only leaning a dick in the proximity of the girl holes?
I honestly prefer to have some information as those just posted by Giotto. They can be enriched by some feedback on girls, but that will not represent the hessence of a report.
Unless one is looking for some porn novel, full of details. But then location is irrelevant as the benefits of that can be enjoyed at home, typing with one hand.
We are now curious to read your first report on your first Nana experience. Are we getting it day after tomorrow?
[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1265265]...
Where in your mind, prices are too high.
... bar fines are too high.[/QUOTE]Mooris7,
Did I really mention this? I am not so sure.
Thanks for the invitation, BTW, but I am not really into Nana. I usually don't go to this HiSo entertainment areas. I prefer the street walkers around Lumpini Park and the Thai KTV's in the suburbs, serving the foreign construction workers. As for Nataree, I don't go there any more, the girls are simply too old for me.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Chill Out;1265257]It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market).[/QUOTE]I think the issue is more with the dwindling number of new faces in the "biz."
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound; 1265324]What do you mean who am I? As in my real name? Why would that have anything to do with regards to my opinion on [b]Dr Crock[/b] Aka Dr BJ?
Tell you what Giotto, bring yourself out from your [b]dead ass bar[/b] And meet me for a beer and I will gladly show you who I am. Just because someone has a different opinion about a business than you gives you no right to ask 'who they are'!
I'm in Bangkok on business next week and [b]you really don't want to rub me up the wrong way[/b]. You ain't dealing an [b]overweight sissy[/b] Giotto.[/QUOTE]My oh my,
Things must have changed lately. Mongering seems to be a very very serious business nowadays.
Giotto
PS:
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1264443][b]Who are you?[/b] …[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1264646]...
With all due respect: [b]Who are you[/b] (if I am allowed to ask )?
...[/QUOTE]
It was possibly just a 'rhetoric' response?
Does anyone know where I can purchase an Asian Flight Attendant uniform (preferably the one with the little hat) In or around Bangkok? Maybe a costume store?
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound; 1265324]What do you mean who am I? As in my real name? Why would that have anything to do with regards to my opinion on Dr Crock aka Dr BJ?
I'm in Bangkok on business next week and you really don't want to rub me up the wrong way. You ain't dealing an overweight sissy Giotto.[/QUOTE]WH,
Take it easy! It's all in fun- a good repartee would have done your job!
I don't think aggression is called for. Just go out and enjoy yourself.
i' really mixing it up on is trip but on the other hand, how can you not when the offerings are so varied? as reported earlier started with a standard looker at annies soapy the first day followed by a pretty lb later the same day. on to day 2.
day2.
went back to nana although i had plans to see soi cowboy but i was too lazy with nana just around the corner. went through almost the reminder of bars i didn't visit the first night and got pretty wobbly even though i tried to leave some fluids in the glass. i couldn't really decide what to choose so figured i walk out and recuperate. obviously, fate decided at that moment i should try one of the teeny type sws outside the parking lot because 10 minutes later i found myself in the short-time room back at nana with 19 yr old (she claims and i could believe it) joy. a joyful experience and she was quite happy to stay a while and give me a back rub. sweet girl actually.
day 3.
isn't really over yet since i plan to go back and watch the zoo at nana when 2am comes rolling in. however, i had a blast in las vegas which obviously specializes in schoolgirl types. i'm sure they were all 20+ but they looked barely legal. anyway, very few customers and floor girl smiles sweetly at me when she brings my black and coke and i offer her a drink just because she's cute. she promptly returns with a tequila, informs me she's going to get drunk tonight, toss it down and cuddles up. suddenly her equally cute friend shows up and yeah, i ended up buying 2 or 3 rounds for the whole floor staff including mamasan so quite a party was developing in my corner and i had no limbs left for more girls. this obviously interested the dancing crew and one of them had already made me laugh several times cause she's a wild package. she was dancing like a maniac pretty much all the time and frequently jumped down and ran around the room, arms waving. looked a lot like a drunk kitten, seriously! obviously i couldn't let her down so she got a couple of shots too before i took her to the short time room.
this mae (or may maybe) is by far the tiniest girl i ever fucked. 32 kg and complaining she's fat and want to go down to 30! my hands could reach around her waist and she could almost suck me standing up without even bending down. she was great fun and cuddly with all the bits and pieces in the right places despite her small frame. however, when i flipped her over into missionary and started entering her she started waving her arms, kicking in the air and squeal so i'm like "oh sorry, i hurt you". she stops, big smile."no". i'm thinking ok and starts pushing further and she starts waving and kicking again."oh, too big?"." no, too small". well ok then, i go at it full speed ahead and she kicks, waves and squeal. totally surreal, she's putting on some kind of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] act and i'm almost laughing. she's getting very wet after a while so its a bit hard to cum but when i finally am empty she smiles up at me, gives the thumbs up and go "good bombom?" fine, but weird thank you mam.
guess i should take a shower and head back down. can't waste the last evening in the hotell room.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden;1265270]I think there is a good chance OTH has left Thailand anyway because he got canned from his relatively well paid university job and is probably pushing 60, which makes his chances of getting something similar quite remote. He seemed tired of Thailand in general and Thais in particular. When that happens it is time to pull the plug and move back home. JMPO[/QUOTE]Yup. I am pretty sure I know where he used to teach. He did put it "out there" on this forum. Perhaps he got "outted" at his Hi-So University for things implied and otherwise on the forum (including uni-girl pics).
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1265391]No offense but the farangs seem to be a BIT of a whiny crowd. The market is what it is-deal with it.
The Singaporeans seems to have a lot more fun and are more upbeat in their postings.
They started to post about Saphan Khwai area, cheaper than Nana and Soi cowboy as Thais are main clientele, anyone here have opinions or reports?
Seems you can feel up pretty girls at reasonable prices. LOL. It s on my to do list![/QUOTE]The market is what we the customers make it. Letting one's ego get in the way is what effects it more than anything else.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1265726]Another thought on why so many angry guys here. I get the feeling most of you brought up socialists-you have no idea how markets work. AND NO THE CUSTOMERS DO NOT DRIVE PRICES alone- supply also plays a part.
Socialist are just angry people-they will never be happy. Free market people work to their best ability and have fun. If they think los is too expensive they go to Burma. LOL.[/QUOTE]Please take your patronising, simplistic and irrelevant comments elsewhere. This is a forum for exchange of information on mongering, not primary school politics.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1265391]No offense but the farangs seem to be a BIT of a whiny crowd.[/QUOTE]None taken.
Whiny? Not like your good self?
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1265726]Another thought on why so many angry guys here. I get the feeling most of you brought up socialists-you have no idea how markets work. AND NO THE CUSTOMERS DO NOT DRIVE PRICES alone- supply also plays a part.
Socialist are just angry people-they will never be happy. Free market people work to their best ability and have fun. If they think los is too expensive they go to Burma. LOL.[/QUOTE]Really? Now, are those are the free market bankers that ruined the world economy? Sorry it is trickle up not trickle down. We know supply side does not work, we are living through the aftermath of it now. So, yes, the consumer is the market, always has been and always will be. Same is true here in BKK. If punters would pay 1k baht, that would be the market, but of course ego gets in the way and a male will pay pay pay.
But, I live here, so I can happily wait till low season and get for a song what folks will pay dearly for during high season.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1265882]So, yes, the consumer is the market, always has been and always will be. Same is true here in BKK. If punters would pay 1k baht, that would be the market, but of course ego gets in the way and a male will pay pay pay.[/QUOTE]Customers always control prices. If guys are willing to pay 2-3k ST then that's what girls will ask. Apparently there is no shortage of punters in BKK and Pattaya willing to pay prices like that today. Things have changed!
If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time. The market is what it is. Yes, customers do have a say in pricing, but they (nor suppliers) have 'control' over the market. For one, customers aren't some unified amoeba. They all have their self interests and requirements. I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock; 1265932].
I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. Only the rich can drive cars then. That's what I call a "socially balanced" idea!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1265889]Customers always control prices. If guys are willing to pay 2-3k ST then that's what girls will ask. Apparently there is no shortage of punters in BKK and Pattaya willing to pay prices like that today. Things have changed![/QUOTE]You are correct sir! Yes, they have changed and will continue to.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1265932]If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time.[/QUOTE]And this is a good thing that the hot girls are more $$$$. If I want a hottie, I wouldn't want her after she just got done banging some filthy backpacker who can't afford a bar of soap. High prices keep the undesirables away from their pollutants!
[QUOTE=Jbranch23;1265588]Does anyone know where I can purchase an Asian Flight Attendant uniform (preferably the one with the little hat) In or around Bangkok? Maybe a costume store?[/QUOTE]In Patpong across from the Beer Garden there is a shop that sells all types of these uniforms.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1265932]If all the sideliners at Tarawadee (or rather Tarawadee itself) was charging 500 Baht a round (instead of 3700 to 8500 a round) , then it would be as packed as a Tesco Lotus all of the time. The market is what it is. Yes, customers do have a say in pricing, but they (nor suppliers) have 'control' over the market. For one, customers aren't some unified amoeba. They all have their self interests and requirements. I think a driver license and car registration tags in Bangkok should cost X thousand USD per year (better for the environment too) , but I doubt most of the local (and many tourists and expats) population would like that very much. It'd be smooth driving getting around town though.[/QUOTE]The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1265949]In Patpong across from the Beer Garden there is a shop that sells all types of these uniforms.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir!
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1265265]I don't plan to research your posts but I would not call that a report. Just rambling about what you saw on a tour of some bars where you did not spend any money LOL. Let's here a report about a girl you bar fined recently. One in the last 30 days though, not ten years back.[/QUOTE]Actually, the post was a reasonable summary of the lack of action going on in the area. He can't post about his mongering as he is not anonymous and GF might check his posts too. People need some privacy which is why I don't have a PM facility. You should not worry so much about what others are posting, and just keep providing yourself. If others post a load of rubbish, they will get well known for it.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1265968]The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.[/QUOTE]A recent report in the BKK post said that almost 400 new vehicles are registered in BKK every day and I would imagine most are private cars, not taxis. The infrastructure of this town is ill equipped to handle the volume of cars that are currently here. Easy cheap credit is an issue as is the want of every person making a decent salary to gain face by owning a car. The public tranny is already stressed. The platforms and trains are not adequate to handle the increasing number of commuters in BKK. I see no palatable solution to the issue. Perhaps a ERP zones like Sing has would discourage some drivers, but I fear far too few. With Thailand being a hub of auto production in Asia, the gov will not do anything to raise the ire of these companies, so we will be faced with a deteriorating situation as time goes on. The impact on productivity will be huge.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1265948]And this is a good thing that the hot girls are more $$$$. If I want a hottie, I wouldn't want her after she just got done banging some filthy backpacker who can't afford a bar of soap. High prices keep the undesirables away from their pollutants![/QUOTE]What does it really matter? A shower and she is as good as new. No way for you to tell who she has been with.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266066]What does it really matter? A shower and she is as good as new. No way for you to tell who she has been with.[/QUOTE]It's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. Would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? If I want cheap, I'll head to McDonalds or burger King. There's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. There will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but I won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1266099]It's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. Would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? If I want cheap, I'll head to McDonalds or burger King. There's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. There will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but I won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.[/QUOTE]
Fine dining in the nightlife areas of Sukhumvit, where hundreds of new STD infections are shared every day and cockroaches scurry about on the pavement?
Delusional.
Such ego on this forum.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266055]Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong![/QUOTE]Work on mastering the there / their distinction before you worry too much about macroeconomics.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266055]Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong![/QUOTE]Partially correct? It was the govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to those who couldn't afford it. But it was the free market that sold and sold and sold throughout the world those mortgages that were worthless and lied everyone they were good!
LBM
[quote=tony hoeprano; 1266099]it's like paying extra for fine dining, you not only pay for the food but the ambience, decor, and service. would you appreciate it if you're in a fine restaurant and you're sitting next to belligerent neanderthals? if i want cheap, i'll head to mcdonalds or burger king. there's nothing wrong with it, it is what it is. there will always be a premium on the finer things in life, whether it's cars, wine, real estate, or women.
don't get me wrong, i'm not naive in thinking these girls are untouched, but i won't be paying a premium if she lacks class and allows mouth breathers and unclean people to sex her up.[/quote]that's great that you do but next time try to visit the kitchen of those fine dining places. you might be surprise what is so fine aside from the ambience, decor and service isn't? the guy that cooks that nice prime rib you like so much might have just taken a shit cleaned his ass with his hand with the hose from the toilet and then went straight back to marinate you prime rib his hand? or while his was taking his shit, the prime rib was being licked by the soi dogs who accidently roam into the kitchen area. your vegetable taste better too since it was laying on the floor and the same soi dog urinated on it while he was leaving.
looks can be deceiving so can ambience and decor. its like picking a stunner and not knowing most of the time what you are going to get? gfe / starfish?
when it comes to prices regarding low and high season you might be right not too much difference like 2000 st, at a go go now she takes 1500 st? but being in thailand when things get slow or tough they raise their prices or stubbornly stand put? low season might also mean a stunner who wouldn't travel far to your place might now?
enjoy, lbm
Hi, BJ here (again!)
I had a business meeting recently and the person I was meeting insisted on meeting at Spanky's in Nana (odd place to try and discuss business I know but that's what they wanted). There is a fine young lady there who I met in the Pattaya branch when I was down there for a Christmas party back in December. On that occasion the demon alcohol caught me out and as soon as the condom went on it was all over. I have taken her out of Nana a few times which has made the rest of the girls very reluctant to entertain me, I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phenomenon. No need to panic if I fancy a change I'm not exactly bereft of choice for other bars.
The discussions were wrapped up in about an hour and the lady in question had ceased dancing when I went in and had been grinning next to me the whole time (in case anyone is under the misconception I'm on some kind of peter string-fellow swaray again, name dropping myself everywhere I go, the lady has no idea who I am or what I do. In fact I prefer to remain anonymous as much as possible). Something I have learned from other business owners and through my own experiences.
The lady is, IMO, very good looking, although may not appeal to all. She is about 5 feet 2' tall has a sort of dyed blonde bob hair cut, enhanced breasts which look fabulous all the same, a tiny waist and a fabulous arse, other aspects which are fabulous and some other fabulous things about her. Did I remember to mention I think she is fabulous? Do not panic the good doctor is not about to get married and move to Chiang Mai with a fabulous young lady named Tic.
After getting back to my place and showering. I was reminded of the only down side to her, she does not do BBBJ she insists on a condom being used. However the compensating determination in her technique does make up for the condom being used, added to this I never try to strongly persuade / bribe these girls into doing anything they are not comfortable with. As some will remember I always start with the lady on top to get me warmed up and I have to say she was no star fish, she was very enthusiastic. Doggy was the next one and I grabbed her buttocks and pushed them apart until the red tea towel holder was winking up at me. I was in full swing now and smashed her for a good 5 minutes. At my age I was a bit tired by now so I whipped her over and united her ankles with her ears. She increased her moaning, real or not was not a paramount concern for me. A few minutes later and I blew my load, NICE!
To my horror when I took my wallet out I was 200 short. I really couldn't be bothered putting clothes on and going to an ATM so I promised her I would drop it off the following evening, because It wasn't the first time I had taken her out she agreed, kissed me on the cheek and told me I was very good (yeah, yeah I bet I'm the first guy you said that too). True to my word I went back to the bar and paid the lady what I owed her plus a tip at 8:30 as agreed. I had to hurry out of the bar as I was expecting a call from a nice young lady who had come up to stay with me for the three days I decided to take off work. Sure enough as soon as I walked out of the Plaza my phone rang and I took a deep breath and arranged to meet this lady in the beer Garden in Soi 7. I am planning to go to Pattaya for Songkram and will be meeting up with her so will post my experiences in due course.
In short Spanky's is a great bar which I highly recommend to everyone and Tik is a fantastic lady who I would urge anyone to try out (she has 4 tattoo's on her upper back area, see front of post for other identifying features).
Regards BJ
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1266227]That's great that you do but next time try to visit the kitchen of those fine dining places. You might be surprise what is so fine aside from the ambience, decor and service isn't? The guy that cooks that nice prime rib you like so much might have just taken a shit cleaned his ass with his hand .... [/QUOTE]LBM,
Normally your stuff is readable, but this time I had to stop. Please return to normal.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1266221]Partially correct? It was the govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to those who couldn't afford it. But it was the free market that sold and sold and sold throughout the world those mortgages that were worthless and lied everyone they were good!
LBM[/QUOTE]100% correct. Allowing banks free rein has been the ruin of the US on several occasions. It is always the people vs the banks.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1265968]The number of really pretty girls at Tarawadee, like most soapies, is rather limited. Lines of fake noses don't impress me. Many are over priced. I decided it was just not worth the trip out there any more.
There are many ways to improve the traffic situation. One would be to long ago limit the total number of taxi licenses. There are at least twice as many taxis as what is needed in Bangkok. Taxis are a very major contributor to traffic jams. I often look down the line of a traffic jam to see at least 30% of vehicles are taxis.[/QUOTE]
Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties,' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.
And yeah, when you limit the number of licenses (whether taxi or private vehicle) , you're invariably increasing the 'value' (and hence price. Whether up front or under the table) of available licenses. There's too many vehicles of all types, IMO. Money is the best way to weed out the market, especially when it's becoming increasingly more difficult for the masses to acquire it.
:)
[QUOTE=Harold444;1266055].In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.[/QUOTE]Whoa. Slow down man. There was never a govt. Policy as all the banks have been de-regulated. So your analogy doesn't hold up.
What does any of this have to do with sex in Bangkok? I thought ISG was the one place free of US rightwing political wingnuttery. I guess Obama's secret Muslim Nazi liberal socialist police state has shut down all the more appropriate forums. Either that, or it's Clinton's fault again.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1266406]Whoa. Slow down man. There was never a govt. Policy as all the banks have been de-regulated. So your analogy doesn't hold up.[/QUOTE]Correct. Never a govt. Only the rich pulling the strings!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266055]Politics does have impact on sex scene. In USA it wasn't the free market that caused the meltdown-it was govt policy requiring banks to give mortgages to people who could no way in hell pay it back. There is concern that same govt policy toward student loans is going to blow up next.
I really doubt their is that big a difference in prices between Hi and lo season. Saying you wait till low season is absolutely insane- but good on you if that's what you do.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Goat-his economics are just all wrong![/QUOTE]Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1266148]Fine dining in the nightlife areas of Sukhumvit, where hundreds of new STD infections are shared every day and cockroaches scurry about on the pavement?
Delusional.
Such ego on this forum.[/QUOTE]I never mentioned sukhumvit, and anyways what do you care how I spend my money? LOL
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock; 1266342]Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties, ' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.
And yeah, when you limit the number of licenses (whether taxi or private vehicle) , you're invariably increasing the 'value' (and hence price. Whether up front or under the table) of available licenses. There's too many vehicles of all types, IMO. Money is the best way to weed out the market, especially when it's becoming increasingly more difficult for the masses to acquire it.[/QUOTE]I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. But I have found the great looking gals in those establishments to be real under-performers. Covered blow jobs, plain vanilla sex, boring. A pretty face it not enough to justify the price tag, but a great looking girl that is dripping and oozing sexuality would be.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266466]I would have NO issue paying the higher prices .,.,., If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. .[/QUOTE]Most Thai Girls have no idea about seduction and how to turn a guy on, Maybe they do not have to for 90% of the customers or the Thai BF, Its just open up the legs and go at it,
I look at some of the OK looking webcam girls and they really know how to move their bodies and tease, much more sexy than just a pretty naked girl spreading eagle!
Maybe we need to start a seduction school.
BK
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock; 1266342]Of course, it's not some hidden treasure trove oasis, that's for sure. Definitely still worth a regular look and dip though, at least for me. Along with Utopia, Plaza Aqua 6th, Long Beach sideliners, Emmanuelle L class girls, Pretty Relax HJ (and sometimes more) 'pretties, ' take the average 'better looking' girl at those places and compare to what most folks (in particular tourists with a limited time frame and range of roaming) consider 'high' end in the tourist pits and beer gardens, it's hard to argue in broad daylight that it's the same 'product' with just a different price tag. Nothing to do with ego or room decor either. It's easy to compare, it's not like those of us who have a certain preference have never visited the low end like V2, Viva, Biwa, Riviera, etc. Just for grins I've even visited places like Annie's and Darling in the past. Hardly the 'same thing' as Copa Cabana model lounge.[/QUOTE]Well stated analysis and sounds like you really appreciate what's available in Bangkok. The question that interests me is how (ignoring all other costs: housing. Food, transportation etc) lets say for example $50, 000 per year (USA) directed at female "entertainment" in a city like Bangkok for an average middle aged full-time or part-time resident. Would compare to the same amount spent in a city like New York. Its my impression based on 2 brief visits over 3 years and this forum and other info I'm hearing. That its probably not duplicable in NYC even at 5 to 10 times that amount.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266463]Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.[/QUOTE]Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266466]I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. But I have found the great looking gals in those establishments to be real under-performers. Covered blow jobs, plain vanilla sex, boring. A pretty face it not enough to justify the price tag, but a great looking girl that is dripping and oozing sexuality would be.[/QUOTE]Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over. Performance wise, I find that if you represent a ticket to something better, you'll get the show you're looking for. I think a lot of times guys start to 'price' or 'value' these little price differences in local terms. Sure, if you're earning in Baht, it's hard not to, but for most of us on the board, surely we still have income in dollars, Euros, etc. And a lot of the arguments / debate / discussion (and some of it seems to be rather amusingly 'heated') on this subject really are over just US$50 to $90 price differences. You can't even buy a good beginner tennis racket for that amount of money.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1266293]LBM,
Normally your stuff is readable, but this time I had to stop. Please return to normal.[/QUOTE]I had some great old pussy the other night and after reading a post about fine dining remember a few years back at a hotel 4/5 star in Bangkok (which I won't mention) who had a great reputation for food. I was in the bathroom just finishing up washing my hands I saw a cook come out of the stall, as he walk pass me he wiped his hands on his pants and then smell his hand. I followed out and as he enter the kitchen backdoor a dog came walking out. The rest of the story I added?
LBM
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1266466]I would have NO issue paying the higher prices if I got porn star performance from the lookers at those establishments, no problem at all. In fact those would be my venues of choice. If they understood seduction, sexuality, and how to really play and turn a man on, not just go through their "script," then it would be well worth it. [/QUOTE]I agree, and the best service I have had is with the least expensive FL I've taken, that I now have been with a total of 9 times. She is not hot by any sense of the imagination, but is attractive in a cute kind of way. She is happy, friendly, playfull, speaks English pretty well; she allows anal, threesomes, photos / videos etc; and for most of these services she charges less than the barfine at most venues. I do enjoy BFing hot girls from GoGos as well; but generally leave a much more satisfied customer with her.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1266612]I agree, and the best service I have had is with the least expensive FL I've taken, that I now have been with a total of 9 times. She is not hot by any sense of the imagination, but is attractive in a cute kind of way. She is happy, friendly, playfull, speaks English pretty well; she allows anal, threesomes, photos / videos etc; and for most of these services she charges less than the barfine at most venues. I do enjoy BFing hot girls from GoGos as well; but generally leave a much more satisfied customer with her.[/QUOTE]Most of the best experiences I've had have been with freelancers who didn't ask about price and let me pay however much I thought fair.
And I paid them fairly, and saw them again and again because their attitude was so good.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1266550]Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?[/QUOTE]Not communist at all. In the US we have socialized the risk and privatized the gains. We basically forgave and bailed out all the banks in the US, but let the population rot. Communism is defined as gov ownership of the means of production. I would and have never advocated that. Certain things work quite well in a "market," consumer goods to mention one. Some things do not, health care and education are two things that do not. Banks have always been self serving unless regulated properly. Canada had no banking issue during the latest crisis because there is proper regulation. In the US our banks are under-regulated and the stock market is over regulated. Let the stock market free wheel and keep the banks tight and solvent. Communist enough for you?
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1266505]Most Thai Girls have no idea about seduction and how to turn a guy on, Maybe they do not have to for 90% of the customers or the Thai BF, Its just open up the legs and go at it,
I look at some of the OK looking webcam girls and they really know how to move their bodies and tease, much more sexy than just a pretty naked girl spreading eagle!
Maybe we need to start a seduction school.
BK[/QUOTE]I agree 100. Many of the working girls here know very little about sex, even though they have been with countless men. Their skill set both technically and psychologically is poorly developed. The oilies are the exception technically, but they are still psychologically lacking. When was the last time you had a Thai gal come into the room dressed in lingerie, crawl across the room like a cat, and do a long slow seductive tease, all the while talking dirty? Nope, just not in the psyche of most of the girls here. I find Thai women very accommodating and agreeable when it comes to being a mate. They are SO easy to live with and make great companions, however, they do lack a bit in the sack. I remember making certain not unreasonable requests from a bar girl once and being told,"I am not a dirty girl." Amazing statement when you think about the amount of see*k she has gobbled in her career.
Now, I have had a very different experience with Indonesian girls. Very dirty, fun, and willing, and of course Western women as well. Perhaps it is monotheism that makes gals fun in bed!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1266504]You don't understand- a girls price is based on her looks! Get real man. If a pretty girl also put out sexually we wouldn't be able to afford them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Harold, that is the Asian way of pricing, for sure. You are buying "face" not performance. Unfortunately as there are fewer and fewer Westerners here, this trend will continue to get worse. I find that FLs are willing to put less and less effort into the act. Also there are fewer and fewer FLs that are out to party, well at least outside of the disco crowd. You rarely see a gal in Thermae with a drink. Used to be one big party every night. When the girls were partying the sex was a lot more fun. Guess the Japanses mongers are turned off by girls who are drinking, having fun, and are aggressive sexually. Too bad, they don't know what they are missing. But I sure miss it.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1266550]Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you[/QUOTE]Oh no, does that mean I grew up in a communist country (Australia)? I am too young to have benefited from the free University period (it is now interest free loans, that are paid back as a small percentage of Salary when earning over $45K) ; but we still have public health.
I don't want to start a big argument, but inferring that Governments trying to look after their people with some public systems is flat out incorrect. Imagine if everyone in the USA was more valuable in the workforce due to being generally better educated and healthier; I would think you would have a much stronger economy.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1266633]Oh no, does that mean I grew up in a communist country (Australia)? I am too young to have benefited from the free University period (it is now interest free loans, that are paid back as a small percentage of Salary when earning over $45K) ; but we still have public health.
I don't want to start a big argument, but inferring that Governments trying to look after their people with some public systems is flat out incorrect. Imagine if everyone in the USA was more valuable in the workforce due to being generally better educated and healthier; I would think you would have a much stronger economy.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It is a shame that so many Americans can't see this. OZ is not a "left wing" country in any respect. I would say most Aussies I know over here are pretty conservative, but they have health care, education, vacation, and a good pension. Perhaps one reason the US is in the s*t is because instead of taking care of the population we spend on wars and corporate welfare. Too bad there is not a citizenship exchange. Would love to trade my US for Aussie, NZ, or EU!
Enough of the eco and political talk, unless it deals with mongering.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1266590]Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over. Performance wise, I find that if you represent a ticket to something better, you'll get the show you're looking for. I think a lot of times guys start to 'price' or 'value' these little price differences in local terms. Sure, if you're earning in Baht, it's hard not to, but for most of us on the board, surely we still have income in dollars, Euros, etc. And a lot of the arguments / debate / discussion (and some of it seems to be rather amusingly 'heated') on this subject really are over just US$50 to $90 price differences. You can't even buy a good beginner tennis racket for that amount of money.[/QUOTE]Dash, the lookers I have had in the states have tended to be just as kinky and fun as their less attractive sisters, in fact some more so.
In defense of Thai girls, I've yet to smell one with a rotten cooch. Unfortunately, I can't say that about some of the falang girls I've had the unpleasant experience of being with. Usually, it had to do with me having a case of beer goggles and shagging something less than stellar. No more I say. No more and I'll stick to Thai and Asian girls.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1266640]In defense of Thai girls, I've yet to smell one with a rotten cooch. Unfortunately, I can't say that about some of the falang girls I've had the unpleasant experience of being with. Usually, it had to do with me having a case of beer goggles and shagging something less than stellar. No more I say. No more and I'll stick to Thai and Asian girls.[/QUOTE]Tony, I would say that far fewer have bad odors. I have had a few, but that number is very small. When a Thai girl does smell bad, it tends to be really bad, and in many cases I suspect a sign of infection.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1266550]Right on, comrade Trotksy!
I'm sure the mongering scene will be much better for all of us when the whole world is commie just like you.
Why not just forgive ALL loans and let the banking system go down the toilet taking the free markets with it?[/QUOTE]The banks and the free markets are doing a perfect job to take the world financial system down themselves.
Uncontrolled inflation and currency devaluation are tried and true ways of discounting the government's loans all over the world. And I think you can hardly find any country in history that did not default on its loans at one time or another, either openly or through devaluation / inflation. No need to be communist. Communists countries have probably a better track record in that respect.
But we are getting far off topic now.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1266603](snip) and as he enter the kitchen backdoor a dog came walking out.[/QUOTE]And as a dog has a much keener sense of smell and taste than humans, it probably is a sign of quality to have a dog in the kitchen and eating of the food there.
My cat regularly refuses to eat some meats it considers "marginal" long before I see anything wrong with it.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266463]Actually the world could have withstood the bad loans easily. It was the repackaging that crashed the economy. There should be only small student loans. It is insane that US Uni students have to go into the workforce heavily in debt. School should be paid for by tax money as should health care. If there is any left over let the military and the Justice Dept fight over it. Would love to see the pres forgive all student loans and force the banks to write them off. Would do the US population good.[/QUOTE]Well personally I do not agree. Why should the tax payer have to foot the bill for other people to have a better education and higher wages? The fact is that in the U. S as in the U. K student loans are given at very low or zero interest and the recipients are not required to pay the loans back until they reach a certain wage bracket. The Uni student benifits for the rest of his / her working life so they should pay for this higher standard of living themselves.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266623]Harold, that is the Asian way of pricing, for sure. You are buying "face" not performance. Unfortunately as there are fewer and fewer Westerners here, this trend will continue to get worse. I find that FLs are willing to put less and less effort into the act. Also there are fewer and fewer FLs that are out to party, well at least outside of the disco crowd. You rarely see a gal in Thermae with a drink. Used to be one big party every night. When the girls were partying the sex was a lot more fun. Guess the Japanses mongers are turned off by girls who are drinking, having fun, and are aggressive sexually. Too bad, they don't know what they are missing. But I sure miss it.[/QUOTE]As Chill Out stated "It's funny how some say there are too many guys coming to Thailand these days (and it's ruining the market) , and others say there aren't enough customers these days (and it's ruining the market)." Now your saying there are less westeners? Ok so less americans, canadians, and south and central americans? As far as non-westerners, in regard to arabs and indians I realize they are not particuarly favored by Thai WG's, yet WG's tend to be somewhat favorable in regards to euros and aussies.
Do you get the impression WG's in general seem to have a perception that Bangkok is being overwhelmed and overrun by arabs, indians, and russians? If so, is that the actual trend?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1266637]Dash, the lookers I have had in the states have tended to be just as kinky and fun as their less attractive sisters, in fact some more so.[/QUOTE]Of course there will be exceptions. Attractive women tend to simply need to 'try' less. That's why they say 'bald men try harder. ' In most cases, it's because they need to because they know life won't be handed to them on a platter.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1264578]Gosh, this is so worrying. It will change the face of the sex industry incredibly.
Great that Stickman has publicised it so well. And so timely, on the first day of the new month. Of April.[/QUOTE]You were right, it was an April Fool's joke.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1266590]Yeah, one's results may vary. And lookers tend to 'try less' the world over.cut .[/QUOTE]Really? (dripping in sarcasm)
Not only does this occur in the p4p world,
Think back to even high school day people. Did the "lookers" in the class ever work to the same level as us "normal / average" folks?
Still remember one back from college days, yes a bit of looker and a bit slutty to boot,
Forever honeying up to who ever could assist her, heck even the teachers were probably on her to do as well.
Well guess what, she did graduate, bottom percentile of class, but do future employers ever really care about grade score?
Still probably trying to blow her way into something better, unless she found a dumb husband.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266835]Sir you said you were going to stop the non sex chat. You really have no clue sir! You prolly think Obama isn't a socialist. THIs is not my line but it is classic-Obama s problem is how to govern as a socialist while not admitting to being one. I really do the the majority of americans have figgured this out (EXCEPT YOU). THe 2010 elections was all about Obama. If he could have been voted out then he would have been.
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?
Ps I don't think goat is as much a commie as he is a dunce (couldn't use stronger word. LOL).[/QUOTE]Perhaps we should move the discussion to a thread entitled,"Political Opinions of Mongers who Love Thailand?" And by the way, I really don't appreciate the name calling and flaming. One can have a discussion without it, at least I can, but when someone disagrees with you, that does not make the person a "dunce."
The old Firing Line debates were always funny civil affairs. Bill Buckley was a conservative that I had the utmost respect for and agreed with many of his opinions. Most modern political discourse descends into name calling, and both sides are to blame for that!
And on a sexually related note, was out and about the last couple of nights and the usual push to get money to take home for Songkhran is on. The BG was filled with faces I have not seen in a long time and there were some new cuties about as well. The "Lot" was also stacked and packed and most gals in the BG and Lot were quoting 1k and the ones that quoted 1. 5k would drop to 1k in an instant.
However, Thermae was quite thin on gals near the midnight hour on Friday night. Quite a surprise. Perhaps those gals are a bit better at saving a few baht.
So gentleman, get out there are support your local gals! Peace!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1266835]Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Can you give one country where affordable healthcare for everyone prospers in a free market environment?
I have been busy since I got back this week.
Just came back from LOS splitting my time between BKK and Pattaya. I went out with a few regular girls and tried the local bar scenes in BKK. Passed by Q-bar and saw some amazing stunners, Bacarat on Soi cowboy had to me the prettiest working girls but there were quite a few Japanese big spenders who I am told have been fucking up the BG scene with their spending sprees. I can't hate the players, hate the game. What's a BG to do given a choice of making 7-8k baht for little or no work vs getting pounded? My buddy told me that one BG girl says a few Japanese men simply wanted to take her out and paid her thousands of baht just for hanging out, go figure.
I had a couple of bad experiences with Bar girls in BKK but I dispatched them rather quickly. I stopped by DR BJ and did one girl, first time ever at a BJ spot, it was cool, clean and nice. The scene in Thailand is changing, big Japanese spenders and booming economy have given some of the girls options but this is still Thailand. I went by this pickup bar called Spassos, women were dressed to a tee! I was there with a few local girls so I only looked.
More in dept report later, my computer is down. My airline cancelled my flight coming into BKk, so they gave me a decent credit as compensation. I could be back soon
Dear Fellow Mongers,
The Japs and Koreans have invaded BKK just before the Songkran holidays. This weekend, Thermae was out of control with stunners demanding baht 7000 ST which these guys were ready to pay. One Jap retiree had 3 girls with him booked for the next 2 weeks of his vacation at a cost of baht 100, 000 each I was told. If any of us speak their language we need to give them the real facts so that our dicks can get some action also.
Sayonara (Goodbye) and kahmsa hanmida (Thank you). That is all I know in Japanese and Korean. I do not want to hear that from the bar and massage girls I want to have a good time with.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1266863]Can you give one country where affordable healthcare for everyone prospers in a free market environment?[/QUOTE]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Who cares. You get to live out your geriatric years in Pattaya on your prole's pension because birth accident put you in a place that takes care of its bottom-feeders. Just enjoy yourself.
Spending the last day of a four day business trip here in Bangkok. Here's a run down of a few places I visited:
There's a decent looking massage place on Suk between the JW Marriott and Nana. I stopped in one night just looking for a good massage. I picked something like a 900 baht scrub massage package. The line up (all sitting down by the window at the entrance) wasn't anything special, so I picked one of the ones with better demeanor. Half way through the massage, she asked me if I wanted anything extra, and once I said no, she started complaining, and this went non-stop until the end. Initially, I was annoyed, but after a while I just stopped noticing her bickering. I would not go back.
Sazanka on Thong Lor soi 6 remains one of my favorites, and I stop by there to have the Sazanka massage at least once every time I am in Bangkok. This time was no exception, and as always, I was not disappointed. Koi was who I had this time, and I would highly recommend.
One night looking for Mango, I came across this Japanese looking massage parlor in that area (I don't remember the name). I was presented with an album of girls many of whom looked very good. I picked 'guitar', and as we were going to the room, the receptionist said the whole FS package costs 1, 500 Baht. Once in I easily negotiated down to a lower price, although I don't remember how much, probably 1, 200. Guitar was very nice looking and very accommodating. I would go back.
Earlier I had stopped by BKK48. There were a number of very nice looking girls on the menu which showed one hour at 1, 900 Baht. I remembered having gone there a year and a half ago, before it was called BKK48 and the new nice storefront, and it cost a lot less. I passed. Does anyone else have any recent experience at this place? Was I getting the gringo menu this time? I don't know.
I also visited Akane. This was my second time there. My first Akane experience, although not bad, was nothing to remember. This time, I got there late, and had a choice of two girls, neither very attractive. I picked the one who was smiling. She was very accommodating and willing to please in any way. I was glad I picked her. Unfortunately I don't remember her name.
Digits
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266835]Sir you said you were going to stop the non sex chat. You really have no clue sir! You prolly think Obama isn't a socialist. THIs is not my line but it is classic-Obama s problem is how to govern as a socialist while not admitting to being one. I really do the the majority of americans have figgured this out (EXCEPT YOU). THe 2010 elections was all about Obama. If he could have been voted out then he would have been.
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?
Ps I don't think goat is as much a commie as he is a dunce (couldn't use stronger word. LOL).[/QUOTE]There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? The reality is that America has many forms of socialism the problem now is that those in the Free market believe it only exist for them. Look at our tax system it is laced from beginning to end with socialistic deductions! The Free market say America has the highest tax rate and say that is Obama fault but he has kept Bush tax rates and if it is so high why didn't G. E. Pay any taxes? Why because of all the socialist tax deductions.
Now as the elections is coming both parties talk about Entitlements like we average people invented and cause the overrun of these programs. The same politicians who are running for President spend time in the system in Congress or Senate since the Reagan years. Played along all these years collecting their own Entitlements taking " one for the team " as Santoran quotes and created many of the problems we have with our social programs today! The original concept of many of these programs were well intended like Social Security, which by the way like many of you put into, just like you put into a 401K plan now because they used all the money and put in a useless I. O. U. To pay for all the wars it is my fault that it is broke! Now they are labeling guys like me a Entitlement generation. If I live beyond the years they projected for Social Security it is my fault! Politician being so goddame smart should have figure that out? I'm not asking for the world I just want what I put in is that too much to ask. It's amazing how these politician say the Government can't run anything when they have been voted in to run the government all these years and have the nerve or Entitlement to get before a camera and say something to that affect!
Starting in the 70's we had a oil problem today after 40 years we have a oil problem. Twenty years every politician knew the health problem and cost was coming and today guess what we have a problem but nothing was done because each and everyday Lobbyist are park outside these politician office making sure nothing is done! Now because they don't like Obamacare, they talk about Constitution, Free Market will take care of the problem while allowing insurance company sell across State lines, Tax credits, Health saving accounts etc. Well how Free has it been since prices continue to rise, you can't sell across State line because companies lobbyist are park right outside making sure it doesn't happen. How is the average guy going to save for a Health Saving account when they don't make enough or don't have a job. What is a tax credit going to do if you can't pay for the high cost of health insurance from the offset while your tax credit comes at the end of the year. And to give you back a tax credit from the governent that is complaining they are broke and isn't that socialism?
It took 2 years to get Obamacare pass and the politician since his election in 2008/2012 continue to complain that we can't afford it and let the free market take care of it? Politician complain about Canada / British / Europe about the bad the health program but if they are so smart and great why can't American politician create and come up with a health program that everyone likes and want to join that addresses, high medical cost, allows help for more young people to want to be doctors, addresses the drugs overcharges and reforms in every area so that instead of complaining or being scared of socialize medicine actually do something about it instead of talking against it and taking money from lobbyist to make sure the status quote exist.
The same morons that claim we can't afford it and that we as Americans feel entitled to these program give millions and billions to country throughout the world who don't like us and want to kill us. Countries year after year get their Entitlements for no oversight but when I want to collect my Social Security it is now a Entitlement? The money they gave to China to reseach how smoking affects the Chinese could take care years of Social Security or Medicare for Americans for years?
The big picture is many Americans don't get it because they have been drawn into the politician game " of divide and conquer " They got us all fighting and calling each other names while they continue their B. S. And lies to keep their own Entitlements! The big losers are us! Instead of complaining and asking what other countries has this or that the question we should ask is why if America is so great and our politician know exactly what is wrong with other countries program why haven't we come up with a comprehensive program that everyone likes? There isn't anything wrong with socialism or free market but neither has taken care of the problem up to now? As long as our politician are allow to blow hot air we are heading down the same road as the problem with oil.
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.
LBM
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Hey Daddy!
Somewhere up there in cowboy heaven, John Wayne is looking down and has a big smile!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1266977]There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? (snip)
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.[/QUOTE]Amen.
Maybe they, the powers that be (whomever they be) , can come up with an affordable voucher system for P4P sexual services.
That would make it a lot easier on us old guys. ;)
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1267012]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.[/QUOTE]
Not even Australia has a "free market" healthcare.
As found in: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Australia[/url]
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Health care in Australia is provided by both private and government institutions. The Minister for Health and Ageing, currently Tanya Plibersek, administers national health policy, elements of which (such as the operation of hospitals) are overseen by individual states.
In Australia the current system, known as Medicare, was instituted in 1984. It coexists with a private health system. Medicare is funded partly by a 1. 5% income tax levy (with exceptions for low-income earners) , but mostly out of general revenue. An additional levy of 1% is imposed on high-income earners without private health insurance. As well as Medicare, there is a separate Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme that considerably subsidises a range of prescription medications. In 2007-08, Australia spent 9. 1% of GDP on health care, or A$4874 per capita.
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Unless there is a levy on "better off" people, it is impossible to have universal healthcare. None of the private insurance companies will "solidarize" their income to help the poor and the "bad" risks will not find insurance for any reasonable price.
Wait until you get a heart condition or a chronic disease and see how fast your insurance company either drops you or increases your rates. See, if you can then still laud the benefits of the free market.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.
The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.
This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1267012]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.[/QUOTE]And believe it or not, health care outcomes in Cuba tend to be amazing. More Drs per-capita than anyplace else in the world.
Hi,
Visited Poseidon Friday, only 8 WG left in fish bowl due to Songkran, mostly from Issan. Below is my mongering report:
Name : Dunno.
Boob : C Cup.
Height : 4'11"
Duration : 2 hours.
Attractiveness : 7/10.
BJ : 5/10.
HJ :/10 enthuaistic.
Rimming : None given, dunno how to ask. Cannot speak Thai.
GFE : 6/10.
Overall : 6/10.
Cost : 2500 baht up front, plus 100baht for the ice latte she ordered.
Remark : constantly pestering for tip.
Choose WG from fish bowl, they sat under pink light which make them more alluring. The fish bowl at second floor, battleground on 6th floor. Once in room, she switch on warm water for bath tub 4 ft x 8 ft. Man sit with leg spread on her lap, she use hand / boob to massage little brother. She wash everywhere from toe to neck. The back washing and massage is nice.
After bath dried up and proceed to bed. Start with leg, nipple, armpit, ball licking. Then BJ and cow girl, end with missionary. There are still 30 minutes after the deed, so she massage me again for the remaining 30 minutes.
Pussy loose for such a small lady. Apart from the constant request fro tips, overall good experience.
Macrot out
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1267034]Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.
The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.
This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.[/QUOTE]Goatscrot,
Easy on the King of Jomtien! You got to know that Daddy07 is from the Joe MacCarthy era plus he is from the Midwest! Until a few years ago he thought we Asian all look alike too? He use to go to work with a Tin Can cowboy hat and a pair of snake skin booths? Each greeting went like this Howdy Daddy!
See many Americans put off health care because they take this attitude that it is a free world and its my body! Don't want anyone or the country to tell them what to do! My older brother was such a person today he lays in a military long term hospital with throat and lung cancer waiting to die given up! Two years ago his doctor at the Veterans hospital suggested he go and have a check and it was free all he had to do was go in the next room and if he had done that things would certainly be different instead he said why " fix something that isn't broken ". Today I'm sure he thinks about that day?
LBM / Howdy!
Milk the tit, military lifers. The most entitlement bunch there is, when the entitlement is all for themselves. And, they're anti-communist, too. Without irony.
Hi, BJ here (again!)
I had a business meeting recently and the person I was meeting insisted on meeting at Spanky's in Nana (odd place to try and discuss business I know but that's what they wanted). There is a fine young lady there who I met in the Pattaya branch when I was down there for a Christmas party back in December. On that occasion the demon alcohol caught me out and as soon as the condom went on it was all over. I have taken her out of Nana a few times which has made the rest of the girls very reluctant to entertain me, I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phenomenon. No need to panic if I fancy a change I'm not exactly bereft of choice for other bars.
The discussions were wrapped up in about an hour and the lady in question had ceased dancing when I went in and had been grinning next to me the whole time (in case anyone is under the misconception I'm on some kind of peter string-fellow swaray again, name dropping myself everywhere I go, the lady has no idea who I am or what I do. In fact I prefer to remain anonymous as much as possible). Something I have learned from other business owners and through my own experiences.
The lady is, IMO, very good looking, although may not appeal to all. She is about 5 feet 2' tall has a sort of dyed blonde bob hair cut, enhanced breasts which look fabulous all the same, a tiny waist and a fabulous arse, other aspects which are fabulous and some other fabulous things about her. Did I remember to mention I think she is fabulous? Do not panic the good doctor is not about to get married and move to Chiang Mai with a fabulous young lady named Tic.
After getting back to my place and showering. I was reminded of the only down side to her, she does not do BBBJ she insists on a condom being used. However the compensating determination in her technique does make up for the condom being used, added to this I never try to strongly persuade / bribe these girls into doing anything they are not comfortable with. As some will remember I always start with the lady on top to get me warmed up and I have to say she was no star fish, she was very enthusiastic. Doggy was the next one and I grabbed her buttocks and pushed them apart until the red tea towel holder was winking up at me. I was in full swing now and smashed her for a good 5 minutes. At my age I was a bit tired by now so I whipped her over and united her ankles with her ears. She increased her moaning, real or not was not a paramount concern for me. A few minutes later and I blew my load, NICE!
To my horror when I took my wallet out I was 200 short. I really couldn't be bothered putting clothes on and going to an ATM so I promised her I would drop it off the following evening, because It wasn't the first time I had taken her out she agreed, kissed me on the cheek and told me I was very good (yeah, yeah I bet I'm the first guy you said that too). True to my word I went back to the bar and paid the lady what I owed her plus a tip at 8:30 as agreed. I had to hurry out of the bar as I was expecting a call from a nice young lady who had come up to stay with me for the three days I decided to take off work. Sure enough as soon as I walked out of the Plaza my phone rang and I took a deep breath and arranged to meet this lady in the beer Garden in Soi 7. I am planning to go to Pattaya for Songkram and will be meeting up with her so will post my experiences in due course.
In short Spanky's is a great bar which I highly recommend to everyone and Tik is a fantastic lady who I would urge anyone to try out (she has 4 tattoo's on her upper back area, see front of post for other identifying features).
Regards BJ
Where's a good place to take a lady for 10-30 minutes or so of DFK? Apart from one's hotel room or a ST hotel. But a bar, restaurant, outdoor location, etc, that is fairly dark and / or private.
Could this attract the attention of the kissing police? Is it illegal or just frowned upon in BKK? Would a P4P TG be too shy to do this in public? Maybe a poorly lit spot in NEP, Soi Cowboy or Giotto's lodge? Or a taxi cab or limo?
[quote=harold444; 1267209]stop with all the jibberish. world leaders come to the usa for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to cuba.
except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. i'm sure obama would let hugo have access to usa medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. hahahaha.
well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. if one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.
its all about freedom-and freedom don't come easily![/quote]in all due respect, world leaders who come to the usa for healthcare is a small percentage i doubt if it is 1% of the overall people who need healthcare in usa and those world leaders can afford it because their citizens are paying for it. your remarks basically confirms what one of the complaints about our healthcare system is turning into. for those who can afford it! and those who stand before the t. v. like so many in the tea party say " i like the system the way it is don't pay the full amount for their their insurance their employer does whoever that might be? there is a very small percentage of the population that can pay the full premium themselves a basic medical policy for a individual in california will run you $700. 00 per month and that gives you a indication what it would cost for a family?
i don't want you or anyone to loose their freedom, but the issue of socialism and healthcare personally is being sold to scare people. if they were to socialize water, electricity, gas, food so that everyone would be able to afford it would you feel you have lost their freedom? i in no way agree that the current pass healthcare by obama is perfect, in fact i believe he screwed it all up! but the way our system is going now and the rising cost put it out of reach for millions and will eventually put it out of reach for you!
all many americans are asking like myself, is if every country system is so bad, and we don't want socialize medicine then with all the suppose brain power of knowledge and greatness of america why have we been fighting and giving lip service instead come up with a plan to cover to make everyone happy including retaining your freedom! instead we have been debating and fighting amount ourselves which gets to my point! this is the way our politicians want it harold444, so things don't change! what is the point of having freedom? if you are a citizen of the usa pay taxes your whole life and in a blink of a eye you loose everything because of a illness laying in the street homeless while every country in the world is getting a hand out and entitlements who have never made a contribution? please harold444 if that was you how would freedom taste then while you lay in your own [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]? if socialize medicine isn't the answer please give me something other than you are scare of loosing your freedom?
lbm
It's 4 AM and my ride to Chicago O'Hare Airport is arriving in exactly 1 hour. You know where I'm going otherwise I wouldn't be writing this. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand marking this airport taxi as a ride I surely would not want to miss. I have all the essentials of a 2-week millionaire dispersed across my bed with an empty suitcase in the middle soon to be filled with said essentials. Packing my suitcase is the last remaining obstacle between me and another episode of LOS. My process becomes interrupted though when I feel a lump in the front pocket of my suitcase as I pick it up to load it. Curious I stick my hand in the offending pocket to see what it is. I haven't touched this suitcase since I unpacked it from my last trip to Thailand 7 months ago. I reach in and pull out two objects and study them. I never use the front pockets of my suitcase and I don't smoke so why was it that I had in my hand a half full pack of cigarettes and a pink lighter. The pack was silver and green in color and was a bit wrinkled and compressed. It had Thai script written across the front and down the sides. The pink lighter was. Well. It was pink. I pull out one of the cigarettes and smell it. More so as a memory jogger than for any other reason. Muted tones of menthol. It had the intended effect. It was mental chloroform as my memory laid down a path to the only possible explanation. It was about 7 months ago.
Her name was 'Lek. ' She table danced at Mandarin in Nana. She was #xx. I typically can never recall both the name and badge number of a girl but I remember both for Lek quite clearly for reasons I'm about to disclose. I had just landed in Bangkok and decided to go to Mandarin in Nana because it's always what I do first when arriving to Thailand. I wasn't looking for anything in particular but she possessed everything that I had in mind. Most of the dancers 'Bangkok shuffled. ' Some seizured themselves around their poles occasionally hitting a beat by sheer accident. Not Lek. She danced in the middle of all this in a way that contrasted the other dancers but complemented her personality perfectly (I would come to find out later). Their uniforms were short, see-through, slightly flared skirts with sub-micro bikini tops. Perversely high heels with sliver ribbon straps that criss crossed up the calf and then tied right below the front of the knee. With a petite and tight body, Lek wore this uniform as she slow-motion swiveled her hips. She held on tightly to her pole with her arms extended, keeping her extremely high heels near the base of the pole, as she moved her hips in rhythmic, geometrically sound, concentric circles. Moving slowly towards the ground and then back up again. She kept the same pace and pattern no matter the music. Slow or fast, techno or mellow; she always sensually spiraled at the same rhythm while making half song revolutions around the pole. She paid attention to no-one. Not the other girls, not the music, not even the customers it seemed. She only looked at herself and would slowly run her hand from her hair to her cheek then down between her breasts then slowly across her mid-section whenever her half song revolutions had her facing the wall length mirror nearest her pole. She wore her hair in an untypically short bob style with one of her eyes completely covered and the other partially covered so it was really hard to tell what she was seeing in the mirror. Everyone else was in the Mandarin club in Nana. Who knows what world she was in. I paid the bar fine to see what the weather was like where she was.
I usually make 2 big mistakes on my first night in Bangkok. I got the first one out of the way when I asked a tuktuk driver at the Nana entrance to take us to a place that had good Thai food. Me overcharged and him over-commissioned I'm sure for the place that he took us to. While eating the overpriced food, Lek gave me a quick rundown of her story. She spoke quietly. She looked not as good but still great in her street clothes. One eye fully covered and the other partially covered by her hair. Age 26. She had worked at an a go-go for a couple of years a few years before. An eventual drug problem while dancing before had her sister and a farang sponsor helping her off the drugs and out of the go-go. She came back to dancing again just 6 months ago. She's been off the drugs for 2 years now. I took it all in because I always find these mini bios intriguing for some reason. With me having just landed from a 24 hour journey I suggested that we go back to my room at the Dynasty Grand. She had an opposing suggestion which was also the better one. We went to Foodland to purchase a large bottle of whiskey and a large bottle of soda to be mixed and consumed in my room. She led to me to the whiskey and I chose. She then led me to the cash register and I paid. She added a silver and green pack of cigarettes with Thai script on the front and down the sides, as well as a pink lighter, as the cashier was ringing us out.
Back in my room we toasted to the pure random occurrence that sponsored us meeting like this. We proceeded to Polish off about half of each bottle. She would pause after each glass in order to light up and smoke a cigarette from the silver and green pack I had just purchased for her. She had to do it out in hall, blowing the smoke out of an emergency exit door, as my room was non smoking. After the drinking and smoking were done we checked off the last item. She performed exactly as she danced. Before she left I gave her the remaining whiskey as a tip and as a thank you. Not so much for the service but for not taking advantage of the 2nd of my 2 mistakes that night. I had allowed her to mix my whiskey and soda unsupervised. I thanked her for not drugging and robbing me.
The next day was quite uneventful. A double soapy, a short time, and then the rest of the afternoon catching up with past acquaintances at Big Dogs. My intention was not to barfine Lek again but there I was that evening at the Mandarin with Lek curled up in my lap as quietly sexy as could be. We both watched, transfixed on Som as she danced for us on our table. 19-year old Som pranced and danced on the stage with enthusiasm I don't see much anymore. She humped the stage, the pole, the waitresses, and the customers. Nothing was safe within a 4-foot range of her performance. Lek said that I should barfine Som so I did. While in the process of placing my order with the mamasan I decided to go double or nothing. To Lek's partial surprise I barfined her again as well and left with two of Nana's finest.
We passed a young-looking, middle aged Thai man once we got off the escalator to the ground floor of Nana. Som spent some minutes talking with this man as Lek and I stood by in a holding pattern. The Thai man gave me a thumbs up as he finished up his conversation with Som. I assumed it was Som's Thai boyfriend and I asked her as such. Turns out the guy was actually her father! They used to work at the same go-go where he was the DJ and she was a dancer. A featured dancer at that. He would occasionally buy her drinks and watch her go off with customers nightly. They now work at separate gogo clubs but they often see each other in passing in Nana. He would often drink with her and her customers when they run in to each other but he had to go and was unable to join us. Even Lek had to take a minute to process that one.
Good thing I had two girls though. First reason being that Som was nearly lights out drunk by the time we go back to the hotel after hitting up a few bars. Lek came in handy when it came to assisting Som back to the Dynasty Grand. Lek was also a bit motherly (her being 26 to Som's 19) when it came to making sure that Som was ok and would provide the proper professional customer service that was expected of them both. It turns out that Som had been to this hotel before. Last time she was here she was paid 10, 000 baht as the customer professionally filmed their encounter for website purposes. This piece of information caught Lek a bit off guard for some reason. Like she was finally getting the know the girl she'd been dancing next to for months at Mandarin.
Lek and Som both wanted to smoke so out came the same silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter. Rather than smoke out in the hallway as Lek did before they opted to smoke out of the open windows in my hotel room. While leaning out the window, Som noticed a naked Thai girl in the bedroom window across the way. The naked girl sat on the edge of the hotel bed in her room and brushed her hair while watching television. All 3 of us watching as a customer entered into view, standing in front of the girl wearing nothing but a towel wrapped around his waist. Before I knew it the towel had dropped and the Thai girl in the window on the edge of the bed started to do some "smoking" of her own. Time for me to exit left. I retired back to the bed as Lek and Som stayed at the window and enjoyed the command performance going on across the way. I was actually enjoying my view as well. Each girl in my room was on her tiptoes leering out the window. They were both wearing the shortest shorts this side of the Mekong. It was a close competition to see whose shorts were shorter. An intense rivalry. Lek's blue denim shorts vs. Som's black denim shorts. It was Red Sox vs. Yankees, Brazil vs. Argentina, All Blacks vs. Wallabies. I was the obvious winner. I sat back and surveyed the scene as if casually contemplating a Monet and a Manet in the Louvre. Two disparate words that I never would have paired together came to mind;"butt, cleavage."
Being that Som was apparently an internet sensation, her and Lek switched positions so to speak. Som became the mentor as Lek had never been with another girl before. No one at a time while the other waited in the bathroom on this one. Som directed while Lek listened and dove in head first. Eventually Som went from director to doing some heavy lifting as well as she posed us and constructed scenes that we played out through the night. Som was still a bit tipsy so she reverted to only speaking Thai while Lek translated her directions and such. When it came to describing Som two more disparate words came to mind that I never would have paired together before this moment;"sexual, prodigy."
It was a short time so the moment came when I held up my end of the bargain with some baht for services rendered plus tip. As a final farewell I watched those two walk down the hall to the elevators. I just couldn't resist. Had I been paying more attention to their possessions rather than their assets I would have noticed that Lek no longer had her silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter.
No mobile numbers or emails were exchanged. So there were no text messages of 'I miss you. ' No emails of 'I love you' upon my eventual return home but Lek had secretly placed these two objects in the front pocket of my suitcase before leaving my room that night. The silver and green pack of cigarettes and pink lighter were her retainer. Nothing overt to keep me on Lek's hook upon my return home but I found that these objects retained my thoughts of our night together thereby retaining my thoughts of her. Playing within the bars and gogos can be like being in a candy store where the only condition is you can only keep what you can retain in your memory.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1267209]Stop with all the jibberish. World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba.
Except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure Obama would let hugo have access to USA medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. Hahahaha.
Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.
Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily![/QUOTE]Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.
Freedom = Not having to enter the workforce 100k in debt with student loans.
Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks vacation a year.
Freedom = Knowing that your retirement is rock solid.
Freedom = Knowing that if your employer lays you off (normally to increase shareholder profits) that you will not be ruined.
That my friend IS FREEDOM!
It is not about socialism. It is about providing health care. I suppose you consider OZ a mecca of socialism since they have a public health care system? Obama is FAR from a socialist.
The large corps already have the population of the US by the throats.
World leader used to come to the US. The rest of the world has caught up.
[quote=littlebigman; 1267368]in all due respect, world leaders who come to the usa for healthcare is a small percentage i doubt if it is 1% of the overall people who need healthcare in usa and those world leaders can afford it because their citizens are paying for it. your remarks basically confirms what one of the complaints about our healthcare system is turning into. for those who can afford it! and those who stand before the t. v. like so many in the tea party say " i like the system the way it is don't pay the full amount for their their insurance their employer does whoever that might be? there is a very small percentage of the population that can pay the full premium themselves a basic medical policy for a individual in california will run you $700. 00 per month and that gives you a indication what it would cost for a family?
i don't want you or anyone to loose their freedom, but the issue of socialism and healthcare personally is being sold to scare people. if they were to socialize water, electricity, gas, food so that everyone would be able to afford it would you feel you have lost their freedom? i in no way agree that the current pass healthcare by obama is perfect, in fact i believe he screwed it all up! but the way our system is going now and the rising cost put it out of reach for millions and will eventually put it out of reach for you!
all many americans are asking like myself, is if every country system is so bad, and we don't want socialize medicine then with all the suppose brain power of knowledge and greatness of america why have we been fighting and giving lip service instead come up with a plan to cover to make everyone happy including retaining your freedom! instead we have been debating and fighting amount ourselves which gets to my point! this is the way our politicians want it harold444, so things don't change! what is the point of having freedom? if you are a citizen of the usa pay taxes your whole life and in a blink of a eye you loose everything because of a illness laying in the street homeless while every country in the world is getting a hand out and entitlements who have never made a contribution? please harold444 if that was you how would freedom taste then while you lay in your own [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]? if socialize medicine isn't the answer please give me something other than you are scare of loosing your freedom?
lbm[/quote]very well stated. americans pay lots of taxes and that becomes even more when you look at the outrageous health ins premiums paid. and again, private insurance because provide no health care. they simply market and profit. there is no sense in it. americans get nothing for their taxes except a bloated military and an out of control criminal justice system. want to talk about freedom then talk about rolling the clock back on the justice system to pre-rico days and releasing all non-violent drug offender, oh, and ending all foreign wars, foreign aid, and closing all overseas bases!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1267209]Stop with all the jibberish. World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba.
Except mr hugo chavez-always exceptions to the rule. I'm sure Obama would let hugo have access to USA medical technology, bird of a feather flock together. Hahahaha.
Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.
Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily![/QUOTE]So I assume you will not ever be drawing Social Security and never will use Medicare? Because those are both "socialist" style programs.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1267209]World leaders come to the USA for healthcare where there are very good outcomes, they sure as hell don't go to Cuba. Well anyway, taking over public healthcare isn't about healthcare its abouts socialism. If one wants to socialize a country a big win is to socialize medicine-then you got the people by the throats.
Its all about FREEDOM-and freedom don't come easily![/QUOTE]I go to other countries for healthcare where there have been very good outcomes and good prices, sure as hell don't go to a healthcare provider in the USA. Provision of public healthcare is all about profits, if one wants to exploit a country a big way is to manipulate the cost of medicine. Then you got the people by the throats. IT has nothing to do with freedom.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1267465]Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.
Freedom = Not having to enter the workforce 100k in debt with student loans.
Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks vacation a year.
Freedom = Knowing that your retirement is rock solid.
Freedom = Knowing that if your employer lays you off (normally to increase shareholder profits) that you will not be ruined.
That my friend IS FREEDOM![/QUOTE]I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.
US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?
Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.
Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1267483]I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.
US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?
Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.
Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.[/QUOTE]
Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F
[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
I agree, let's talk about important topics, such as pussies, etc.
I just barfined a girl for ST from Rainbow 4 at 11:30. I had barfined the same girl in November for 2000 ST, which I find already expensive enough. My hotel is 5mn from Nana plaza, so it took her about 1 hour, travel included. And she enjoyed it as the stains on my bedsheets show (in case you would like to check! Ah! Ah!). I did not talk price before and after we finish, she asks me 2500 and was angry I (should I say only?) gave her 2000.
Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?
When we talked in Rainbow 4 around a lady drink, she complained there were too few customers. No wonder!
[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]Nana Entertainment Plaza, Nana Hotel carpark, Soi Cowboy. 1AM is still at least an hour before "official" closing time and many bars and clubs seem to run to a different timezone!
[QUOTE=El Frances;1267576]I agree, let's talk about important topics, such as pussies, etc.[/QUOTE]That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1267582].
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Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?
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[/QUOTE]Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1267600]Nana Entertainment Plaza, Nana Hotel carpark, Soi Cowboy. 1AM is still at least an hour before "official" closing time and many bars and clubs seem to run to a different timezone![/QUOTE]Arriving at the hotel at 1 AM, checking in, taking a shower, getting dressed ... 2 am, --- an alternative would be to go to Bumrumgrad in Soi 3, discuss some healthcare issues. Otherwise Climax, Sukhumvit Soi 11.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1267351]Where's a good place to take a lady for 10-30 minutes or so of DFK? Apart from one's hotel room or a ST hotel. But a bar, restaurant, outdoor location, etc, that is fairly dark and / or private.
Could this attract the attention of the kissing police? Is it illegal or just frowned upon in BKK? Would a P4P TG be too shy to do this in public? Maybe a poorly lit spot in NEP, Soi Cowboy or Giotto's lodge? Or a taxi cab or limo?[/QUOTE]No question at all. Take a limo to Giotto's Lodge. We will find a fairly dark spot here somewhere. And the kissing police will serve a bottle of champagne before DFK happens. Afterwards we can discuss the healthcare issues connected to DFK, and the limo can bring you back to Bumrumgrad, Soi 3, for the necessary treatment.
All this is - quite strange, somehow.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]Forest,
We both know - life is hard. And the life in Bangkok is very hard. I can tell. Let's go into details.
People are not taking time outs from discussions here in Bangkok / Thailand. They usually occupy the Rajprasong intersection and stage a demonstration for approximately 65 days. And then - they get shot from time to time, somehow. And afterwards ... nobody takes over the responsibility for what has happened. Never mind. That's how it is.
As the shooting method is quite unpopular an alternative is just under development. The drowning method. First test of the government took place last year. Let's wait for the outcome. Some optimization has to be done, the water did not get to the Rajprasong intersection. Damn!!!
Beautiful Thai girl - beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For sure you want a tall fat big chested Isaan girl from the South, with fair skin, skinny, small tits. Ahh, black hair and brown eyes? I see, a standard Thai girl, and of course a superb BBBJ provider (daily check, of course). But healthy, not infected with anything, under the watch of the Thai healthcare system. Initiated by Thaksin: pay THB 30, and you are healthy! No BBBJ will ever hurt you!
Downtown Bangkok - where is that? Chinatown, close to the palace? Sathon Road? Silom? Siam? Lad Phrao? Sukhumvit, lower or upper part? It must be somewhere.
I hope I got "back on track". If not --- I apologize. This is Thailand, but the people HERE are --- strange somehow, so strange.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]I was in the exact same situation a week ago. I arrived at my hotel at 1:40am:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1264060&viewfull=1#post1264060[/url]
Basically, arrived at Grand Millenium on Asoke at 1:40am and was in the Soi Cowboy gogo's shortly after, barfined a hot dancer at 2:15am.
Hi, It's me again (4 am in Bangkok).
After my ST, I went to Insomnia to test the disco nightlife. Comparing with previous experience, it seems to be better than Climax. It's Tuesday and full enough for a weekday, and plenty of girls. And you don't have to stand a live band as in Climax. Standard repetitive disco music, nor good nor bad.
It's quite fun and lively. However, it is like the antithesis of Gogo bars. In Gogo bars, it's mainly about older men picking up young girls. In Insomnia, it's mainly about young men picking up older girls. It's probably cheap (from the profile of the men there, I would say max. 1500 LT) , but as I am an older guy I prefer young girls, so I just had a few beers and left.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1267609]That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!
Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.
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Giotto[/QUOTE]You were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?
I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.
You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1267465]Freedom = Not having to worry about financial ruin if you get ill.[/QUOTE]Freedom = Not having to worry about finding a stunner at Beer Garden for 500 baht LT.
Freedom = Not having to enter a Go-Go bar without 100K of someone else's baht in your pocket.
Freedom = Knowing that you will have 4 weeks of any girls you want in Bangkok at someone else's expense.
Freedom = Knowing that your dick will always be rock solid when you're ready because you want it to be.
Freedom = Knowing that if you forget to bring your wallet to a Thai restaurant, the proprietor will give you your dinner free.
That my friends IS FREEDOM!
It's not about socialism. It's about getting what you deserve even though you've not earned it. It's about taking what you want from the pockets of your betters. It's about having everything you want for FREE! That is FAR from socialist.
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1267644]Hi, It's me again (4 am in Bangkok).
After my ST, I went to Insomnia to test the disco nightlife. Comparing with previous experience, it seems to be better than Climax. It's Tuesday and full enough for a weekday, and plenty of girls. And you don't have to stand a live band as in Climax. Standard repetitive disco music, nor good nor bad.
It's quite fun and lively. However, it is like the antithesis of Gogo bars. In Gogo bars, it's mainly about older men picking up young girls. In Insomnia, it's mainly about young men picking up older girls. It's probably cheap (from the profile of the men there, I would say max. 1500 LT) , but as I am an older guy I prefer young girls, so I just had a few beers and left.[/QUOTE]Gals at the late night discos often charge more. 3k baht is the figure that comes to mind. Lots of lookers there, but as you stated, lots of younger guys. Many of the younger guys are looking for freebies, but a younger better looking guy that is willing to pay more than us middle aged dudes it trouble, well at least for us!
[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]Well, depending on closing times for that night, you could hit Cowboy or Nana for an hour and if nothing suits your fancy head off to Climax or Insomnia. Also Nana parking lot.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1267657]You were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?
I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.
You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,
Thanks for taking me seriously.
You are right, this "explosion" is worrisome, I have to contact my shrink. I was under the impression that despite the declared purpose of this forum it was still a kind of fun place, where things are not taken too seriously ... but I am obviously wrong. Never mind.
Giotto
PS: Are there really forums where you can practice sarcasm?
[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]Bad health or no healthcare equals no pussy! Bad eyes no healthcare to treat it hard to see at that time of the night to see anything beautiful? I suggest maybe you book ahead or just wing it. Beautiful is nice but at that time of the night you might want to go to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy. Your first night just get laid and think beautiful later?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1267760]Bad health or no healthcare equals no pussy! Bad eyes no healthcare to treat it hard to see at that time of the night to see anything beautiful? I suggest maybe you book ahead or just wing it. Beautiful is nice but at that time of the night you might want to go to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy. Your first night just get laid and think beautiful later?
LBM[/QUOTE]But even worse is bad pussycare! Then we are all in trouble!
Boiled over?
[quote]Originally Posted by Giotto [View Original Post]
That's correct, pussy is much more important than healthcare!
Depends on the performance. If good you get it for free. Otherwise you go mongering in New York, that's much cheaper.
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Giotto.[/quote]You were quiet for so long, and then. Explosion?
I have been bored by all the non-mongering reports, but since you seem to like politics, what's eating you? I mean, you seem to be just a little grumpy? IMHO, you could do with toning down the sarcasm, just a little. There presumably are other forums, for non-mongers.
You have to expect nearly everyone here is pretty much pussy crazy.
I agree!
[QUOTE=Admin; 1267551][blue]Gentlemen,
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Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Thank you Jackson! Now my first visit to Nana. Kinda ironic but I met this girl Lisa on FB. Found out she works at Playskool in Nana Plaza. We decided to meet there because she could not get the night off work and of course needs her bar fine LOL. We went to Mixx club before heading back to my place for some action. Big tits and nice face. She gave a great BBBJ and was wonderful to see riding me ha ha. Damage was 2500ST two shots. Overall I thought Nana much bigger than Soi Cowboy but I really did not like the atmosphere. Bars were bot that busy and too many Lady boys for my liking. If you have to take a second look to decide whether it is a girl or not then it is not the place for me. I did however like the Nana beer garden in the middle. Seems like a good place to meet a freelancer. Do the go go bars allow that? Her photo below if you want to go find her.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1267483]I think the Founding Fathers: John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington would be shocked with your definition of Freedom. What you are describing is Utopia. It will never happen. All the European countries with the exception of Germany are in bad shape fiscally speaking. The US federal government is 16 trillion in debt and basically bankrupt. Nobody thinks the US will ever pay off this debt. The plan is to inflate the currency by printing more money. If a real solution is not found to stop the government borrowing, the US currency will face severe devaluation which will destroy the middle class and be a catastrophe to the poor. The problem with implementing your Utopia is there is never enough money. If you tax everybody in the USA 100% on all income over $100, 000. It still won't make a dent in the debt and the economy will tank.
US healthcare was far from perfect and many improvements could have been made. But the one thing that made US Healthcare superior to all nationalized plans was immediate availability and care, no wait times. How long does a patient have to wait to see a specialist in Canada, England or Australia?
Obama promised his healthcare plan would not bend the cost curve. He lied. His estimate was $900 billion over 10 years. The latest estimates are $2. 6 trillion over the same period. It is also now estimated that Obama care will cost over $60 trillion over the next 50 years. In other words even if the Supreme Court does not declare the law it unconstitutional, it is still doomed.
Freedom means it is up to you to make it or fail. Government is not the answer. It is the problem.[/QUOTE]Your affirmations regarding waiting times are wrong. There is no waiting time at all in, for instance, so called "socialist" France. Neither in nermany. Nor even in other continental Europe countries. The only European place where this is an issue is the UK.
Your argument that you can HAVE immediate access in the Us is flawed: Only those who can make a big cheque in the emergency room have such access.
Actually, in so called Socialist Europe, you can also access private care and pay, just like in the US. But if you can't you can still be treated without wait in the public sector.
I am happy and proud to live in a country that takes care of ALL its citizens.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1267804]Your affirmations regarding waiting times are wrong. There is no waiting time at all in, for instance, so called "socialist" France. Neither in nermany. Nor even in other continental Europe countries. The only European place where this is an issue is the UK.
Your argument that you can HAVE immediate access in the Us is flawed: Only those who can make a big cheque in the emergency room have such access.
Actually, in so called Socialist Europe, you can also access private care and pay, just like in the US. But if you can't you can still be treated without wait in the public sector.
I am happy and proud to live in a country that takes care of ALL its citizens.[/QUOTE]I hope you end this discussion soon, but the record needs to be set straight.
Since the socialists in here insist in keeping the political discussion going. They at least owe it to others in here to stop distorting reality. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a USA Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. The level of treatment beyond that point can depend upon a variety of factors, including the type of insurance, but in the USA many will by default qualify under medicaid and various other programs including various private charities, but in any case the USA still generally provides care comparable or better than most other countries in the world. While we may have a european-socialist US President. Who is now running a media-supported hate campaign against hardworking and successful people. Who is willing to bad mouth and distort facts about america every chance he gets. It doesn't mean what he is saying is true. Even illegal immigrants in most cases generally receive a very high level of care in the USA, unlike nearly any other country.
As later documented by Governor William Bradford when the Pilgrims arrived in America, at Plymouth in 1620, they tried socialism the first several years, and the result was starvation and famine. When they changed the rules to allow producers to keep a portion of their goods to make profits, production quickly rose and things greatly improved for everyone. Same thing in China several decades back when they moved from the communist / socialist model and introduced elements of capitalism. Allowing farmers to keep half their crops for personal profits, a huge increae in production, benefitting all and helping increase the standard of living.
Socialism is great in theory, however its success when it has has occured has been mostly in group-centric homogeneous cultures that keep outsiders out and limit benefits to these same parties (e. G. Japan) , yet in most countries has not worked well in practice as it tends to demotivate and disincentivize societies most productive and skilled individuals, instead encourgaging dependency and lack of effort. Socialism does one thing very well and that is: divide up all the poverty it creates.
By the way Thailand which of course still has many problems, is very close to pure capitalism, however if you believe socialism would have produced better results, then you better tell us how adjoining and nearby socialist-centric countries have done better.
Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1267582]I just barfined a girl for ST from Rainbow 4 at 11:30. I had barfined the same girl in November for 2000 ST, which I find already expensive enough. My hotel is 5mn from Nana plaza, so it took her about 1 hour, travel included. And she enjoyed it as the stains on my bedsheets show (in case you would like to check! Ah! Ah!). I did not talk price before and after we finish, she asks me 2500 and was angry I (should I say only?) gave her 2000.
Where will it go? In 6 month time will they ask 3000 ST?
When we talked in Rainbow 4 around a lady drink, she complained there were too few customers. No wonder![/QUOTE]Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.
You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1267897]You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.[/QUOTE]The girls have an uncanny ability to remember their customers. They have better memories than we do.
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Let's get back to the subject.
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[QUOTE=Admin; 1267932][blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
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Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Please do come back regularly and check this thread. After the politics, we may go back to orchids, prices, taxis, water, STDs, LBs, airlines, ATMs, restaurants. Last time I dared to say something, I was told to get out and "get a life". Which I did.
[QUOTE=Gwailo;1267886]Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.[/QUOTE]How about socialism based pussy? Lots of it in the China thread!
[QUOTE=Dreams;1267936]Please do come back regularly and check this thread. After the politics, we may go back to orchids, prices, taxis, water, STDs, LBs, airlines, ATMs, restaurants. Last time I dared to say something, I was told to get out and "get a life". Which I did.[/QUOTE]Did what, get a life? Problem is that there're no clear rules or guidance as to what is acceptable so this is the result. The posters discussing the topics you mention will tell you that they are all relatable to the BKK sex scene. And since no poster's opinion is more valid than another and there're no penalties or fouls you will always have these types of postings.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1267897]Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.
You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.[/QUOTE]Where did he say they both agreed to the price ahead of time? Also, he said he was only 5 minutes from Nana and the one hour was all inclusive, yet she still later asked for 2500. Price increases apparently are the trend, maybe customers currently living in Bangkok might have some thoughts on what's going on with prices. I heard in Myanmar (Burma) prices have doubled in the last year, but I guess that's a currency issue, as investors (many east asians) are streaming into the country to take advantage of the new reforms. Plus Cambodia supposedly is no longer cheap. So what's that leave? Phillipines and living with high crime?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1267785]Thank you Jackson! Now my first visit to Nana. Kinda ironic but I met this girl Lisa on FB. Found out she works at Playskool in Nana Plaza. We decided to meet there because she could not get the night off work and of course needs her bar fine LOL. We went to Mixx club before heading back to my place for some action. Big tits and nice face. She gave a great BBBJ and was wonderful to see riding me ha ha. Damage was 2500ST two shots. Overall I thought Nana much bigger than Soi Cowboy but I really did not like the atmosphere. Bars were bot that busy and too many Lady boys for my liking. If you have to take a second look to decide whether it is a girl or not then it is not the place for me. I did however like the Nana beer garden in the middle. Seems like a good place to meet a freelancer. Do the go go bars allow that? Her photo below if you want to go find her.[/QUOTE]You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. Congrats
[QUOTE=Western787; 1267829]I hope you end this discussion soon, but the record needs to be set straight.
Since the socialists in here insist in keeping the political discussion going. They at least owe it to others in here to stop distorting reality. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) is a USA Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment. The level of treatment beyond that point can depend upon a variety of factors, including the type of insurance, but in the USA many will by default qualify under medicaid and various other programs including various private charities, but in any case the USA still generally provides care comparable or better than most other countries in the world. While we may have a european-socialist US President. Who is now running a media-supported hate campaign against hardworking and successful people. Who is willing to bad mouth and distort facts about america every chance he gets. It doesn't mean what he is saying is true. Even illegal immigrants in most cases generally receive a very high level of care in the USA, unlike nearly any other country.
As later documented by Governor William Bradford when the Pilgrims arrived in America, at Plymouth in 1620, they tried socialism the first several years, and the result was starvation and famine. When they changed the rules to allow producers to keep a portion of their goods to make profits, production quickly rose and things greatly improved for everyone. Same thing in China several decades back when they moved from the communist / socialist model and introduced elements of capitalism. Allowing farmers to keep half their crops for personal profits, a huge increae in production, benefitting all and helping increase the standard of living.
Socialism is great in theory, however its success when it has has occured has been mostly in group-centric homogeneous cultures that keep outsiders out and limit benefits to these same parties (e. G. Japan) , yet in most countries has not worked well in practice as it tends to demotivate and disincentivize societies most productive and skilled individuals, instead encourgaging dependency and lack of effort. Socialism does one thing very well and that is: divide up all the poverty it creates.
By the way Thailand which of course still has many problems, is very close to pure capitalism, however if you believe socialism would have produced better results, then you better tell us how adjoining and nearby socialist-centric countries have done better.[/QUOTE]Western787,
I believe in some form of socialism, I believe in many conservatiive, liberal, and even like many of the ideas Ron Paul preaches. Although you cited the law which is very true you have brought and have been brainwashed to this in the real world it doesn't work exactly like that. My second job was a partime with a major insurance company I have had insurance all my life but when I retired the company terminated retirees insurance in court. So now I'm in Thailand, I have studied nearly every medical policy being offered in Thailand and have visited every private and public hospitals in the Chon Buri area and your right it is very close to pre captialism whereas even when they have a law like you stated in the USA a majority International accredited hospital will ship a dying American down the road because they couldn't confirm he could pay for the treatment. Capitalism is they ask you how are you going to pay while you are in dying pain? Captialism is when they charge you double for a hospital stay and then tell you they gave you a 50% discount on the room. Their medical system is lace with discrimination against pre-conditions and seniors and policy are sold to humans like they sell medical policies to dogs in America.
This is the application of our law in the USA this is my experience a few years back! While visiting home I came down with a medical problem which is my fear whenever I come back to the USA for a short visit. The problem grew and so did the pain. I couldn't get a private practice doctor to do the procedure in their office so to make a long story short I ended up at the General hospital clinic in S. F. While sitting for 5 hours waiting in a room that I knew were full of low income and most likely illegal Mexican my turn came just to fill out some forms first thing they wanted was my S. S. Number. Another hour later I was in the surgery clinic, I ask the doctor can I fly back to Thailand and do the procedure " will I die " it would be much cheaper? His reply " do you want it cut or not we don't get into personal we are just here to treat you " will in the end the cost was over $2, 000, for fifteen minutes of work and some pills. If the private doctor was able to do it the cost would have been $350. 00. I went back to Thailand and the bills kept rolling in because I had a legal address and a S. S. Number, now they were threatening collection? Finally I was able to return and I went into their office to explain my situation along with my financial in the end " Medi-Aid " will only give assistance if you have no more than $10, 000 in USA funds and no income.
To get on with things I wrote them a check. See! Guys like me pay because I have a legal address and a S. S. Number! If you don't and you care they come after you and can get at your bank account (so much for freedom and this didn't just happen because OBAMA) the government can ruin you and your credit! The system is this buddy, if you are a Illegal it is free " you and I pay for it already " sure there is a law and yes they don't refuse you but the system requires you to use ALL your money life savings until you are below their requirment then you get aid! This is a good example why people won't get off medicare or assistance why get a job if you can't get medical or afford it with your mimimum wage job? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME FORM OF A NATIONAL HEALTHCARE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT! The law isn't what it seems you don't have the Big full picture! This is a feel good law but it doesn't work much in practice it is just another Theory!
Can't talk about healthcare but can reference LB?
LBM
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268096]You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. Congrats[/QUOTE]Certainly looks like a "postie".
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1268102]Western787,
I believe in some form of socialism, I believe in many conservatiive, liberal, and even like many of the ideas Ron Paul preaches. Although you cited the law which is very true you have brought and have been brainwashed to this in the real world it doesn't work exactly like that. My second job was a partime with a major insurance company I have had insurance all my life but when I retired the company terminated retirees insurance in court. So now I'm in Thailand, I have studied nearly every medical policy being offered in Thailand and have visited every private and public hospitals in the Chon Buri area and your right it is very close to pre captialism whereas even when they have a law like you stated in the USA a majority International accredited hospital will ship a dying American down the road because they couldn't confirm he could pay for the treatment. Capitalism is they ask you how are you going to pay while you are in dying pain? Captialism is when they charge you double for a hospital stay and then tell you they gave you a 50% discount on the room. Their medical system is lace with discrimination against pre-conditions and seniors and policy are sold to humans like they sell medical policies to dogs in America.
This is the application of our law in the USA this is my experience a few years back! While visiting home I came down with a medical problem which is my fear whenever I come back to the USA for a short visit. The problem grew and so did the pain. I couldn't get a private practice doctor to do the procedure in their office so to make a long story short I ended up at the General hospital clinic in S. F. While sitting for 5 hours waiting in a room that I knew were full of low income and most likely illegal Mexican my turn came just to fill out some forms first thing they wanted was my S. S. Number. Another hour later I was in the surgery clinic, I ask the doctor can I fly back to Thailand and do the procedure " will I die " it would be much cheaper? His reply " do you want it cut or not we don't get into personal we are just here to treat you " will in the end the cost was over $2, 000, for fifteen minutes of work and some pills. If the private doctor was able to do it the cost would have been $350. 00. I went back to Thailand and the bills kept rolling in because I had a legal address and a S. S. Number, now they were threatening collection? Finally I was able to return and I went into their office to explain my situation along with my financial in the end " Medi-Aid " will only give assistance if you have no more than $10, 000 in USA funds and no income.
To get on with things I wrote them a check. See! Guys like me pay because I have a legal address and a S. S. Number! If you don't and you care they come after you and can get at your bank account (so much for freedom and this didn't just happen because OBAMA) the government can ruin you and your credit! The system is this buddy, if you are a Illegal it is free " you and I pay for it already " sure there is a law and yes they don't refuse you but the system requires you to use ALL your money life savings until you are below their requirment then you get aid! This is a good example why people won't get off medicare or assistance why get a job if you can't get medical or afford it with your mimimum wage job? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE WHO WANT SOME FORM OF A NATIONAL HEALTHCARE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT! The law isn't what it seems you don't have the Big full picture! This is a feel good law but it doesn't work much in practice it is just another Theory!
Can't talk about healthcare but can reference LB?
LBM[/QUOTE]The USA may soon have to copy Thailand in certain regards, loosen medical malpractice tort laws (for damage suits) and allow drugs stores and other sub-licensed entities to become part of the treatment options (more drugs available etc) , as the USA health system eventually collapses under it own weight.
All countries have hybrid systems, the issue is one of percentage, both the absolute level, and the overall trend, and the case with China is a clearcut example of what can happen when you unshackle socialist restraints and move toward capitalism if only in incremental steps.
I'm well aware of the larger picture. The fact that the United States is a sinking ship now listing on its side, weighed down by an ever expanding entitlement state overlayed by a de facto open borders policy for at least three decades now, where illegals often have more benefits and handouts than citizens. The (must treat) law was cited simply to refute the nonsensical idea of someone being taken out of an ambulence, then supposedly dying outside the emergency room because short of funds, and course (as an unfunded mandate) it has huge problems, one of which is of the significant cost shifting to those of us paying private premiums, such premiums having doubled or tripled in recent years, in part to pay for such programs. National health care won't solve the problem if the USA continues an open borders and open welfare policy for all such immigrants. By the way, Obamacare if not rescinded, is perhaps only one or two federal court decisions away from illegals qualifying under its various new entitlements (since constitutionally speaking they are deemed, by mere physical presence in the USA,"persons" and thus guaranteed certain rights) so Obama was in fact "lying" just as Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina stated.
Every new entitlement or welfare program intented to solve a certain problem, ends up causing a 1000 new problems.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268096]You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. Congrats[/QUOTE]News story out tonight. Miss Universe is now going to officially allow transgender entrants. (whether each one's true gender will be kept private in the contest, not sure) Discrimination can be wrong at times, but with a WOMENS pageant, its nice to know (for sure) that all are actual women. Ok, they were maybe born with the wrong equipment, but they're in effect forcing us to accept them as women, when in fact they never can be women.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1267994]Did what, get a life? Problem is that there're no clear rules or guidance as to what is acceptable so this is the result. The posters discussing the topics you mention will tell you that they are all relatable to the BKK sex scene. And since no poster's opinion is more valid than another and there're no penalties or fouls you will always have these types of postings.[/QUOTE]This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.
BTW, there are clear rules and guidance, but they are not followed, and, yes there are no penalties. This is because Jackson is alone, and does not monitor. I know of many other sites which have delegated monitoring to more people, and such non mongering posts would eitehr be deleted, or reassembled in new threads. Can't understand why we can't have some more threads about restaurants, politics, whatever, and keep one just for sex.
But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1268174]This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.[/QUOTE]Now this is actually on topic, but remember the "arab spring", supposedly that was triggered by food price inflation, which they've connected to the Fed (which to keep the now quasi- socialist USA going) is running the printing presses. The USA in effect for years has been able to export inflation, and we know something like this is occuring in China, which is definitely tied in part to what the Fed is doing, and now it looks like inflation in Thailand of some type. So maybe that's where its all headed, and perhaps only the Phillipines a few other asian places remain cheap. I also see on the Pattaya site talk about "agency" girls pushing prices up.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1267744]Syzygies,
Thanks for taking me seriously.
You are right, this "explosion" is worrisome, I have to contact my shrink. I was under the impression that despite the declared purpose of this forum it was still a kind of fun place, where things are not taken too seriously. But I am obviously wrong. Never mind.
Giotto.
PS: Are there really forums where you can practice sarcasm?[/QUOTE]Detecting sarcasm implies the lack of taking you seriously. No need to say this since you were sarcastic yet again I guess!
The part of taking you seriously, was only that you seemed grumpy.
The only problem with the sarcasm, is that its probably more fun to write than to read.
Possibly comes from working with a guy once, who just used sarcasm 100% of the time, Thinking it was smart, and I got real bored by it.
Its gets a bit dull, if overdone or none too subtle IMHO. There are other techniques to create humour, rather than purely writing the opposite of what is common sense.
Looking back at some of Nic Frenchies older posts, and I see some really funny stuff, in a non sarcastic way because of the purely funny experiences, perhaps from culture clash and misunderstandings (when he was in a good mood, that is).
I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1268174]This is very specific to the BKK thread. You do not have such stupid ratio (50/1) between mongering and non mongering posts in any other thread. Well so be it, if this what the local BKK ISG members want to do. There are other sources of info elsewhere for those of us who just want, as Jackson says, to share info on sex. So, yes, I went elsewhere to "get a life", and got it.
BTW, there are clear rules and guidance, but they are not followed, and, yes there are no penalties. This is because Jackson is alone, and does not monitor. I know of many other sites which have delegated monitoring to more people, and such non mongering posts would eitehr be deleted, or reassembled in new threads. Can't understand why we can't have some more threads about restaurants, politics, whatever, and keep one just for sex.
But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.[/QUOTE]This is not what the local BKK 1SG members want; if you look at types of post you're referring to they're posted mostly by a squadron of members who have high jacked this thread. Most of them don't even appear to be in Thailand. If Admin can't win this issue though, no one will so enjoy the reports you can and ignore the ones you can't. There's fun to be had out there in this land.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1267897]Let's see. You did not negotiate the price, took her an hour to travel to your place, you enjoyed it very much and you did not pay her what she asked. It's people like you who make others look bad.
You think she remembered you from the last time? For her every dick looks the same. You should be ashamed of yourself instead of bragging it here.[/QUOTE]Duni,
It took her an hour total. She made 2k for 1 hour (including the travel time of 5 mins) (not too bad) and he was expecting to pay the same as last time, since the price wasn't discussed. I don't negotiate price up front normally, but I don't think I would pay whatever the girl asked for afterwards, nor do I think you would. I would pay a fair amount, and probably same as last time, unless she had clearly worked a lot harder than normal, or was a very long ST.
Girls do get slightly baffled by me at times, because I don't pay exactly the same every time. Shit I can't even always remember what I paid last time. I tend to pay based on effort, performance, and duration, with some bonus for top looks and body. However I am known to be very fair or better than fair I think.
Girls that make a habit of pleading for extra money when have already been paid very well, don't thrill me much, and tends to put me off getting the hots for them next time.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1268174].
But who am I to say that. I should go away and get a life.[/QUOTE]Nahhh,
You better stay.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1268211].
The only problem with the sarcasm, is that its probably more fun to write than to read.
Possibly comes from working with a guy once, who just used sarcasm 100% of the time, Thinking it was smart, and I got real bored by it.
I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,
No idea where it comes from. Grumpy?
My idea is: You stick to your straightforward writing style, and I stick to my straightforward sarcasm. And both of us are happy, ok? Let's not get too serious about writing styles.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Forest; 1267492]Goatscrot, LittleBigMan and Natty Bumpo: perhaps you can take a time out from your debate and help me with an IMPORTANT issue: Where can I find a beautiful Thai girl if I arrive at my hotel in downtown BKK at 1 am?
Thanks in advance for getting back on track. F[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know where your hotel is, other than "downtown", but let's assume it's near NEP. Then you have these options:
The Nana Parking Lot.
The Nana Entertainment Plaza.
Nana Liquid disco.
The bars & streetwalkers in the nearby vicinity.
I wouldn't bother with Annies, as they seldom have any beautiful girls at any time of day, let alone 1-2 AM, if they're even open. I'd expect much the same with Dr. BJ's. Maybe they could try recruiting a handful of the 1000's of drop dead gorgeous females one can see in or near MBK every day.
I think Wolfhound is acting out of line.
This poster needs a warning from Jackson.
At the airport, after checking into immigration, I walked toward the luggage area and noticed a horrible stench of BO, mind you, I've played a lot of school yard basketball, but this was the foulest odor I've had enough misfortune of smelling. I looked to me left and there were 7 or 8 indians standing there. I feel sorry for anyone other has to sit next to these stinky peoples in the airplane!
Anyways, Just got back from Dream Heaven massage on Soi 33. This place has quite a few hot girls from what I saw. I chose Tip, this girl has nice big tits and hot ass, more curvy than the average thai girls. I chose the nuru option for 2300 and it was well worth it. Got in the shower with her (naked of course) and I'm not sure where all this crap about thai babe's not being seductive came from, but this girl had it in spades. Service was great for such a hot chick too, great BJ and the whole 9 yards. After the first shot she gave me massage, I actually fell sleep. LOL. Got another round with her for extra 500. I might go back and pick 2 girls.
Hi Tony,
I have traveled to Delhi and Mumbai quite a few times from BKK and had the misfortune to sit next to a few of these stinky people who are totally illiterate, uncivilized and morons. I was told by the flight attendants that they work as carriers / mules bringing electronic and other contraband items into India for a small fee. The general educated Indian population does not fit this category. I have tons of Indian friends who carry themselves professionally and smells better than many westerners I frequent with. Thailand has a huge population of these stinkos who are leaving a bad impression of the Indians.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1268211]I don't claim to have any great writing skills myself, but try to keep it straightforward.[/QUOTE]Here I go away for a long while and I see you're still complaining. Things haven't changed. (Except the prices at Annies Maybe) hahahahaha.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1268211]Looking back at some of Nic Frenchies older posts, and I see some really funny stuff, in a non sarcastic way because of the purely funny experiences, perhaps from culture clash and misunderstandings (when he was in a good mood, that is).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1268435]Here I go away for a long while and I see you're still complaining. Things haven't changed. (Except the prices at Annies Maybe) hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Speak of the devil. Good to see you back.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1268464]Speak of the devil. Good to see you back.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Good to be back.
Done the non-P4P for too long, time to get back to some serious Massage-time. Reviews will come soon.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1268255]Nahhh,
You better stay.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Too late, have already gone. But I may come back, don't worry, there is too much fun to be had in BKK, even without the "help" of useless posts on ISG.
Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?
Good to see you back, Frenchy.
[QUOTE=Admin; 1267932][blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.
Hi all, I'm going to Thailand end of May, for two weeks, with my gf and two other couples (6 in total. All friends)
We arrive in Bangkok spend 3nights then travel to coh Chang spend 5 nights, then back to Bancok for another 3 nights (don't ask why the gf booked it! LOL).
I desperately wanted to go without the Mrs but because she's already been, there was no way she was gona let me go alone so we ended up in this group situation. Being as its 3 boys and 3 girls, the lads will Defo have a boys night out (a few if its up to me!)
My friend at work says pattya is a must for one night at least and we also intend to attend a moon party whilst were in co Chang one of the neighbouring islands are hosting one, just needed some advice on how best to punt and manouver to get the best possible experiences given the situation as I would want to slit my wrists if I came back to London without adequate exploration. Thanks.
Hi all, ima taking a verything is already pre booked and paid. Were arriving in Bangkok sat 26th may and are [email]staying@glow[/email] Trinity hotel, on 29th we take private minibus to Trat. Ferry to koh Chang, once in koh Chang were [email]staying@aana[/email] Resort until 6th June then back to Bangkok by minibus / ferry to stay at sky tower hotel leaving Bangkok for London on the 8th June. I understand there are loads of small islands surrounding coh Chang so I want to visit as many of them as possible, just looking for maximum experience out of a limited situation, I think I may have to feint argument just before holiday to gain some freedom / leverage. Hehe. Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Madam;1268563]Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?[/QUOTE]No one will come that far for an outcall unless you pay 1000 baht extra for the cabbie. The best bet is you take a taxi to Sukhumvit area, get to a massage joint like Mango, Tulip etc and enjoy the full service there, do some shopping and then head back to the hotel. Instead of the cab, you may opt for the far cheaper airport express train option.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1268622]I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.[/QUOTE]And what does your post add to anthing you're talking aobut?
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1268622]I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.[/QUOTE]This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.
[QUOTE=Madam;1268563]Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?[/QUOTE]None of my business, but are you forced to stay in that hotel?
Nana is appr 40' taxi ride.
[QUOTE=Gwailo;1267886]Can we please stop discussing socialized medicine and maybe get back on topic.[/QUOTE]All of that really shows you that kicking us Expats out of these pages achieved nothing. These Topics still will come back and be discussed here. Got to love Anarchy.
[QUOTE=Madam;1268563]Guys, I will be visiting Bangkok next week, however I will be staying at Hotel Novotel Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport. Any idea of action near there? Or advice for outcall services to my hotel?[/QUOTE]How long are you going to be staying in BKK? I mean, out of all the Hotels to pick, Novotel Suva is the worst. If you absolutely need a Novotel, they've got a nice one at Ploenchit.
Novotel Suva is ok for a few hours to relax and take a shower but if you got a Whole night, then better go in the city.
I know some will say that there is the Airport Link and Whatnot. Well, as far as I am concerned, Airport Link is shit if you have luggage. Actually, even if you don't it's still shit LOL.
I travel a lot and for me, can't beat a nice taxi to relax after a plane ride. I don't care about the price.
LAst week I was talking to some dumbass tourist who was proud to have taken the A-Link and saved 200thb. I nodded and smiled but was thinking "Dude! You come all the way to Thailand to save $5 on Airport Transportation?" Give me a Fucking Break!
(Sorry, it's my first week back here and I'm in a "I don't give a Shit mood". I'm sure it'll pass. After I get laid)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1268827]I travel a lot and for me, can't beat a nice taxi to relax after a plane ride. I don't care about the price. LAst week I was talking to some dumbass tourist who was proud to have taken the A-Link and saved 200thb. I nodded and smiled but was thinking "Dude! You come all the way to Thailand to save $5 on Airport Transportation?" Give me a Fucking Break![/QUOTE]For me, at certain times of the day, a short taxi ride to/from the fast Phaya Thai Express train can be faster than a taxi all the way from the airport (I live off of Sathorn).
Go get laid.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1268622]I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.[/QUOTE]And its been said many times before you. Its clear that saying these things doesn't work in the long term, even if causes some temporary abatement.
Creating the Expat Forum doesn't help much. I for one, don't look at the Expat threads, and probably many others don't too. Therefore Expats won't wish to stay in those threads, even if they wish to write on non-mongering topics. Many expats or long term members don't appear to wish to write much about actual mongering experiences. But this is what the forum is about. Top places to find hot girls. If we didn't get some reports in this mode, the forum would become next to useless. Which bars are good, which soapies have nice girls, which Oilies are pornstar, which are good for GFE, which are best freelancer spots, etc. Personally, I include plenty of actual experience reports, particularly if at a new place or tried a new girl. I do understand if long term members don't want to report on the same place / same girl they have reported on before, but would still like to see an increase in the experience reports, particularly where posters had a good time. Posting experience reports should not be just for newbies!
Thread off-topic reports are a fact of life. However the General Thread is a good place for starting those topics.
I didn't post this report originally as was busy.
Hooked up with my regular girl at Sheba. Little thing, but with fabulous best bottom in the house. Only A cups but I don't care. She is a bit Dingk-Dong (crazy). Smokes, drinks, probably takes mild drugs, is too loud, you name it, everything is wrong just like a typical longer term bar-girl. She is a lot of fun and made her a long term friend, but never could be a GF, since its doubtful if she could behave properly for extended time."You can take the girl out of the bar, but you cannot take the bar out of the girl!" She works the bar freelance to finance her studies at that well known part-time university looked on with total scorn by the likes of OTH. So isn't a "real" uni student. As freelance, she only turns up to work when she feels like it, but certainly if I call, she will show up. She is sometimes very horny, and likes to have sex in various places around the room, not just on the bed. Sometimes demands very extended foreplay before getting to the real fucking. Was very happy when I bought her a high quality rechargable vibrator, for when she is not working. Likes to watch me fucking other girls, and often asks me to put porno movies on during foreplay before sex.
Took her and another little thing (out of the lesbian show) that appealed to me, to do the two on one. Had to wait a while, as other customers were also showing interest in the new girl, buying her drinks, but I indicated that if they really wanted her they had better BF her before I did it. I gave the girl the opportunity to choose her customer too. There was little doubt I would winout unless another guy BFed her promptly. Later found out the new girl was just legal (embarassingly) , even though had a baby already, as I had little idea about her age initially.
My regular girl asked me to put some porn on to warm us up. I didn't have any porn DVDs, so had to get X-Art off the net (redtube).
The new girl turned out to be an incredibly great feeling fuck. Something about her body shape, curvature, and pussy feel, was well above normal.
I like very much having my balls licked while fucking another girl. I also like kissing two girls at the same time, with extra tongues floating around my mouth. Even though the girls haven't worked togther before, they warmed to each other quickly.
My regular girl got fucked a bit less than the new girl, as the new girl's pussy could take me deaper (all the way). However my regular girl was willing to return to me in the morning so I get a morning fuck too. She doesn't stay all night, usually, since often wouldn't sleep at night and prefers to party with other bar girls (and sleep in the daytime).
The experience was so pleasurable, that I had to repeat again the next night, despite the cost of two girls. The bar tried to get me to take 3 this time since another girl I have done several times was available. Since I couldn't imagine any improvement, I stuck to the two girls again. By this time, they were used to each other and doing "lesbian style" pussy licking on each other too. They are not true lesbians, but like to receive good licking from wherever, and are willing to serve.
Next time I might to get both girls for all nighter, since then I could possibly get more fucking than sleep, with my tag team.
Recemmendation: When taking two girls, get them from the lesbian show if possible, as these girls are used to performing with other girls. Choose a girl and get her to help you choose another that she particularly likes, as well as you liking. Better if at least one of the girls is reasonably experienced.
The girl that was pointed out to me as the top Sheba girl, didn't interest me at all. Face average (boring), not quite a full Thai look, haircut to appeal to Japanese, tits big natural but saggy shape, bottom and legs average, overall slightly over weight, age very young (too young?). Fortunately my taste is very different, prefering slimmer "models" (okay they are too short to be models) with great bottoms and cute noses.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1268896]If we didn't get some reports in this mode, the forum would become next to useless.[/QUOTE]Very well said! So to start things off, I'll give you the [b]twitter version[/b] Of my experience yesterday:
Massage soi24 2shots 2300 all in. Great face / nice boobs #will repeat
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1268911]Very well said! So to start things off, I'll give you the [b]twitter version[/b] Of my experience yesterday:
Massage soi24 2shots 2300 all in. Great face / nice boobs #will repeat[/QUOTE]Ha Ha! :D And you know very well, you are supposed to write proper English, or at least "near English" like me. ;) Which Massage?
[QUOTE=Western787; 1268161]The USA may soon have to copy Thailand in certain regards, loosen medical malpractice tort laws (for damage suits) and allow drugs stores and other sub-licensed entities to become part of the treatment options (more drugs available etc) , as the USA health system eventually collapses under it own weight.
All countries have hybrid systems, the issue is one of percentage, both the absolute level, and the overall trend, and the case with China is a clearcut example of what can happen when you unshackle socialist restraints and move toward capitalism if only in incremental steps.
I'm well aware of the larger picture. The fact that the United States is a sinking ship now listing on its side, weighed down by an ever expanding entitlement state overlayed by a de facto open borders policy for at least three decades now, where illegals often have more benefits and handouts than citizens. The (must treat) law was cited simply to refute the nonsensical idea of someone being taken out of an ambulence, then supposedly dying outside the emergency room because short of funds, and course (as an unfunded mandate) it has huge problems, one of which is of the significant cost shifting to those of us paying private premiums, such premiums having doubled or tripled in recent years, in part to pay for such programs. National health care won't solve the problem if the USA continues an open borders and open welfare policy for all such immigrants. By the way, Obamacare if not rescinded, is perhaps only one or two federal court decisions away from illegals qualifying under its various new entitlements (since constitutionally speaking they are deemed, by mere physical presence in the USA,"persons" and thus guaranteed certain rights) so Obama was in fact "lying" just as Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina stated.
Every new entitlement or welfare program intented to solve a certain problem, ends up causing a 1000 new problems.[/QUOTE]Western787,
I will give you your respond in the Expat Opinions thread! This is certainly not being done for you M7 and others. Many of you haven't been on this board long enough to understand why some of these threads were created and certainly many of you impatients individuals don't want to know why?
LBM
Anyone Remembers this place? Was there yesterday.
I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?
I Believe I do. It is in Washington Square which is becoming a wasteland of sorts. Some places still exist but on real short leases. I had a girl there in the bar one time last year. Most of them were, hmm, less than a 5."If" I am correct in it being in Washington Square.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1269017]Anyone Remembers this place? Was there yesterday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1269045]I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?[/QUOTE]I don't know, but I've noticed that too. Also more sex toys for sale.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1268622]I have said it many times but I think I will try one more time. I believe the general thread and the Thailand expat forum were created to discuss the other topics. Can you guys please start to utilize those threads for the purpose they were created for? This thread is for the topic stated above my admin. If for nothing else when a new member joins they will know what to expect when they read a thread.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Syzygies;1268896]And its been said many times before you. Its clear that saying these things doesn't work in the long term, even if causes some temporary abatement.[/QUOTE]Perhaps a more proactive approach would be to focus on the BKK sex reports already made by commenting on them and asking for additional details or info. IOW milking the guys telling you their experiences with girls for all they're worth. Who knows, maybe by responding to their posts and saying something about them, they'd be encouraged to offer more of the same about the ladies. I think so. At least it would bring more attention in the direction you want it.
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1269077]I Believe I do. It is in Washington Square which is becoming a wasteland of sorts. Some places still exist but on real short leases. I had a girl there in the bar one time last year. Most of them were, hmm, less than a 5."If" I am correct in it being in Washington Square.[/QUOTE]Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.
You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds ( 500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.
Simple.
Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1269240]Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.
You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds (500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.
Simple.
Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country![/QUOTE]Wonderful memories of Miss Big Bird and Khun Tee Hee as well. Think I saw that scenario your described played out several times there. Was a great bar!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1269283]Wonderful memories of Miss Big Bird and Khun Tee Hee as well. Think I saw that scenario your described played out several times there. Was a great bar![/QUOTE]Just for a second I thought that guy was me, but no. Alas, in my case, the girl had NOT swallowed. Not good! Held my nerve and did not give those fuckers the laugh they were looking for. Great idea, but luckily, after we played swapsies for a minute or two, she realised she was out-tongued amd swallowed what was left! Oh yeah, I won that one.
Tuck
Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1269475]Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing![/QUOTE]Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1269475]Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing![/QUOTE]Some falang think, despite being 6-3 and built like Warren Sapp after a cake eating contest, they'll suddenly be transformed into a little Thai guy after celebrating Songkran. Kinda like Mexicans coming to the USA and celebrating Hanukkah so they can be rich Jews.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268766]This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.[/QUOTE]Post op ladyboy! I think you need to give your head a shake! Since when do post op ladyboys have children. If you have nothing useful to report please stay off the forum! I would beg to differ on your observation. I know she has children!
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268766]This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268096]You paid 2500 ST for a post-op ladyboy. Congrats[/QUOTE]You are just a troll, I am sorry! You have nothing useful to say! One member says she is decent looking and you think she is a post op ladyboy LOL
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268766]This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.[/QUOTE]She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOL
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1268766]This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.[/QUOTE]And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself!
Recently I have had a lot of luck on Badoo for freebies. I met this 30 year old a few weeks back. We had dinner a few times after the second date she invited herself back to my condo. Told me she had not had sex in 2 years. She has two children and spends most times looking after them and working. I started with DATY and I swear this chick went nuts. After 10 minutes of this she grabbed my cock and yelled fuck me! She tried to put me in with no condom. I was tempted but managed to grab a cover. I swear this chick was so loud someone actually banged on the floor from upstairs LOL. She was surprised I could fuck so long. LOL I only took 30 minutes LOL. The best part about her was her nice small round firm ass. Anyways if you don't mind going on a few dates then Badoo is a good source for freebies. I also went to mix club recently and picked up a half Thai half Singapore girl. It was great fun picking her up and fucking her at the end of the night. I did not get a pic of her personally but asked me to send me one. I will post these in the photo gallery. Anyways check out mix as an alternative to Climax, Insomnia, and Therma. I found it to be a meat market full of willing chics, some freebies and some freelancers. Maybe a little pricey for some of you guys LOL!
Sounds like an excellent time! Thanks for the great post! I'm heading to Thailand in June. Can't wait to try a duo like this.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1268909]I didn't post this report originally as was busy.
Hooked up with my regular girl at Sheba. Little thing, but with fabulous best bottom in the house. Only A cups but I don't care. She is a bit Dingk-Dong (crazy). Smokes, drinks, probably takes mild drugs, is too loud, you name it, everything is wrong just like a typical longer term
Recemmendation: When taking two girls, get them from the lesbian show if possible, as these girls are used to performing with other girls. Choose a girl and get her to help you choose another that she particularly likes, as well as you liking. Better if at least one of the girls is reasonably experienced.[/QUOTE]
Very high quality post! Any more details on what goes into a 2-week millionaires suitcase? I'll be making the same journey in about 8 weeks.
[QUOTE=Drai; 1267446]It's 4 AM and my ride to Chicago O'Hare Airport is arriving in exactly 1 hour. You know where I'm going otherwise I wouldn't be writing this. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand marking this airport taxi as a ride I surely would not want to miss. I have all the essentials of a 2-week millionaire dispersed across my bed with an empty suitcase in the middle soon to be filled with said essentials. Packing my suitcase is the last remaining obstacle between me and another episode of LOS. My process becomes interrupted though when I feel a lump in the front pocket of my suitcase as I pick it up to load it. Curious I stick my hand in the offending pocket to see what it is. I haven't touched this suitcase since I unpacked it from my last trip to Thailand 7 months ago. I reach in and pull out two objects and study them. I never use the front pockets of my suitcase and I don't smoke so why was it that I had in my hand a half full pack of cigarettes and a pink lighter. The pack was silver and green in color and was a bit wrinkled and compressed. It had Thai script written across the front and down the sides. The pink lighter was. Well. It was pink. I pull out one of the cigarettes and smell it. More so as a memory jogger than for any other reason. Muted tones of menthol. It had the intended effect. It was mental chloroform as my memory laid down a path to the only possible explanation. It was about 7 months ago.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1269475]Thank fuck that Songkran is over now (at least in Bangkok) for another year. The novelty of been water cooled by some idiot who thinks that they are some kind of aqua Rambo rapidly wears thin. And am I the only one who find the sight of grown adults running around with water pistols quite disturbing![/QUOTE]Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.
And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th.
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room.
The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.
Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1269240]Yessss you are correct! This used to be WILD COUNTRY in Washington Square. I have fond memories of Wild country, Used to be (for me) one of the Sleaziest place in BKK.
You walk-in, Pay 60THB / Glass Cheap Whisky to the Girls and they would do anything you want. Usually you buy a few rounds (500thb) and tip 200 300 thb the lady that has Sucked you.
Simple.
Now, I recall a Story from a Punter that made me Run away from this place. This Senior Member was at Wild-Country having a BJ and just "Came" in the girls mouth. The Girl Swallowed immediately when a Customer waled-in. She rushed to him and asked him to sit down. Sat beside him and French Kissed the Dude. THAT is my image of Wild country![/QUOTE]I was in BKK late June of last year looking for Wild Country but it had already met its demise the previous week. A week too late! Strange as it was, nobody around Washington Square seemed to know what had happened.
So, I headed down to Patpong for some Kangaroo Club afternoon sleaze which fit the bill.
Question: is there another bar anywhere in BKK like Wild Country? I know Soi Cowboy has After Skool which is "hands on," but it doesn't seem quite the same as what I've heard about WC. Besides Pattaya Soi 6, anywhere to get the "all hands on deck" attention for a round of cheap whiskey?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1269634]Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.[/QUOTE]No offense mr Boner, but judging from your online demeanor, I think you would enjoy seeing acts of animal cruelty!
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1269598]Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.[/QUOTE]No thank you. I experienced the Thai water torture Pattayan style last year and once is enough. At least in Bangkok, if you are reasonably dressed, most will demur from soaking you and all you tend to get are a few restrained squirts. In Pattaya you know that no matter if you were dressed as the pope, you would be a soaking wet pope within yards of leaving the hotel.
I went to Panthip Plaza yesterday and did a lot of walking, past many groups throwing water about. I was within yards of my hotel and congratulating myself for escaping relatively unhosed. But I failed to spot the 4 year old boy with the bucket of water. Aaaaarrrggghhh.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1269661]No offense mr Boner, but judging from your online demeanor, I think you would enjoy seeing acts of animal cruelty![/QUOTE]If you equate getting shot with a water gun to animal cruelty, it's possible you may take yourself a bit too seriously.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1269598]Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already. And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room. The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.[/QUOTE]Paradise with an ocean view (and BJs, too), huh?
Daddy, I took "one for the team" yesterday and got a little wet. It must have been fun as I work up late this morning with a slight hangover and some sore joints (including my face from laughing too much)!
See you after Walking Street dries out. ;)
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1269598]Why don't you com'on down to Pattaya, Mr. Stunt. The celebrations are just getting going here after 3 days of it already.
And we have 4 more days to go before the grand finale on the 19th.
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying a great vacation in my room.
The girls who come to see me are soaked to the bone.[/QUOTE]Yep Pattaya is a joke as it never fucking ends, thus my recent trip I bypassed Pattaya but fucked up coming back from Cambodia by a day and copped it big time in Soi 4 Nana Bangkok. I had to use Dynasty Inn Taxi (twice the cab rate) via the back door so I could escape dry. I will make sure I miss the crap on any future trips. They should just restrict it to certain areas and stop the dudes driving around as the local papers report of the fatalities and injuries caused by idiots and drunks. I saw a article where someone recommended total alcohol ban, now that would get people thinking and screw up tourism.
If you have the slightest suspicion of her being a lady boy, stay away!
[QUOTE=Apeman 28;1269696]Yep Pattaya is a joke as it never fucking ends, thus my recent trip I bypassed Pattaya but fucked up coming back from Cambodia by a day and copped it big time in Soi 4 Nana Bangkok. I had to use Dynasty Inn Taxi (twice the cab rate) via the back door so I could escape dry. I will make sure I miss the crap on any future trips. They should just restrict it to certain areas and stop the dudes driving around as the local papers report of the fatalities and injuries caused by idiots and drunks. I saw a article where someone recommended total alcohol ban, now that would get people thinking and screw up tourism.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1269692]Paradise with an ocean view (and BJs, too) , huh?
Daddy, I took "one for the team" yesterday and got a little wet. It must have been fun as I work up late this morning with a slight hangover and some sore joints (including my face from laughing too much)![/QUOTE]Yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be OK. One day of the madness would be enough too. A week is far too much.
If it were on one day only, I might even partake, as I did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. Got my face painted by a little girl while I stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. Got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. It was fun for awile.
But last year there was no escaping it from where I live. A motorbike ride the length of Jomtien Beach Road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. Some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 KMH. It's dangerous. Not fun. Now I just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.
I still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.
Low season is here at LAST!
See you soon, Fon Tok.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1269757]Yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be OK. One day of the madness would be enough too. A week is far too much.
If it were on one day only, I might even partake, as I did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. Got my face painted by a little girl while I stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. Got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. It was fun for awile.
But last year there was no escaping it from where I live. A motorbike ride the length of Jomtien Beach Road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. Some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 KMH. It's dangerous. Not fun. Now I just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.
I still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.
Low season is here at LAST!
See you soon, Fon Tok.[/QUOTE]I think many of us farang feel that one. One day would be perfect. Go out, party, and have fun. But three days, as in the case with BKK, and a WEEK, in the case of Pattaya is overkill!
[quote=daddy07; 1269757]yeah, if they would only restrict it to certain areas and not allow the drive by shootings it would be ok. one day of the madness would be enough too. a week is far too much.
if it were on one day only, i might even partake, as i did once a few years ago at the beach wearing a swimsuit. got my face painted by a little girl while i stopped and bent down to let her have her way with me. got soaked with buckets of water and squirt guns. it was fun for awile.
but last year there was no escaping it from where i live. a motorbike ride the length of jomtien beach road is like a gauntlet through a crowd of savage sadists. some of them have ice water in their buckets and will splash you with 5 gallons as you're driving along at 40 kmh. it's dangerous. not fun. now i just stock up on groceries the week before the mahem, hunker down and wait it out.
i still get serviced in the usual manner so it's not that bad.
low season is here at last!
see you soon, fon tok.[/quote]daddy07,
you got to loosen up as i told you i got you cover? you still got your hair and it is i say a good full set! come out i have been at it for 3 days now and will do 2 more until the 19th. if you do please don't wear your speedo that you wore a few years back!
let get wet and wild where else can you have this much fun at our age?
So far in Bangkok I have:
*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)
*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)
*Got a good BJ at Star of Light.
*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.
*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.
I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.
Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1269634]Conversely, I love seeing uptight joyless sexpats getting soaked with a water gun despite their glares for mercy.[/QUOTE]Ahah! So do I.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1269482]Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.[/QUOTE]Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over. Now if you were 60+ y/o I can understand, but if you are young you should participate and not be a dour falaang. Life is not all about orgies, or is it? .
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1269561]She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOL[/QUOTE]In my judgement she is a lady.
It appears that she does not like you much though.
C4T
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1269897]Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over.[/QUOTE]Uh; maybe he has business. Do ya think?
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1269852]So far in Bangkok I have:
*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)
*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)
*Got a good BJ at Star of Light. Why.
*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.
*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.
I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.
Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]They sell a ton of imitation jeans at MBK, I've heard the quality was actually decent. Yeah, you'll need to definitely dress better to step up your gamefor free girls, ain't no hiso thai girls spreading their legs for khaosan road backpackers staying in hostels
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1269852]So far in Bangkok I have:
*Been hustled at a Ping Pong show (the one where some tout says it's free to watch and 60THB for a coke, you stay for 5 minutes and they try to charge you 6000THB because the bitches have put drinks on your table and they say you must pay the door fee.)
*Had fun at a legitimate Ping Pong show and took a girl from their (big mistake taking the girl who sticks inanimate objects up her pussy for a living)
*Got a good BJ at Star of Light.
*Picked up a chick under an overpass on her way home from Soi Cowboy on NYE.
*Picked up a FL near Nana Complex.
I will be back in Bangkok at least 2 more times on my way to and from Burma and need some advice so that I can step up the quality of service I have been getting and possibly step down the price. At the moment my wardrobe is limited to flip flops, shorts and a pretty cruddy pair of trail shoes. I saw tons of clothes / shoes for sale on the streets and was wondering if those of you who live in BKK buy your clothes here or elsewhere. I'm really just looking for a pair of jeans (maybe slacks) that fit well and a pair of boat shoes or casual loafers. When I go back I hope to go to Annies and possibly a couple of the night clubs where people report finding freebies. If luck pays off I may also be able to get a date through one of the various meeting sites. I want some better clothes because it is my understanding that although I am a tourist, I may get a better reception from the Thai ladies if I dress a bit better.
Lastly, and I hate to ask and feel a bit awkward doing so, but is anyone open to hanging out and showing me around a bit when I come back into town.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I don't know what to say about this post. You want to get better service, lower price, and your clothes are crap. I suggest you go to one of the central shopping malls or Terminal 21 and pick yourself up some decent threads. It sounds like you are looking for more cheaper ladies. You have two choices. Number one you can find many ladies in Bangkok for 500-1000 baht but you will really have to sacrifice in the looks dept. If you want freebies you will have to up your game a lot. Take them for dinner and of course you can't dress like a slob. If you do this then it is the same as spending 1500-2500 Baht for a much better looking WG either in a go go or at a club!
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1269897]Just lighten up and enjoy. Why would you want to go around in a business suit when you KNOW there will be water thrown all over. Now if you were 60+ y/o I can understand, but if you are young you should participate and not be a dour falaang. Life is not all about orgies, or is it? .[/QUOTE]Really? Some people still have work to do. The folks I saw "well dressed" we older tourists, probably 60 up. No one should be "forced" to participate. It is one of the most passive agressive displays I have ever seen. Some of us don't enjoy having freezing water thrown on us and dousing someone who is unwilling is rude in ANY culture.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1269045]I have noticed an increasing number of vendors selling viagra / cialis etc in the Sukhumvit night market. Has anyone bought from one of these guys? Did it work or is it just nasty counterfeit shit?[/QUOTE]I can tell you that the Kamagra gel packs sold on Sukh night market work great and are fine and normal. But if in any doubt, go to the pharmacy thats next to the Bully pub, gas station on Sukh, extrance road to Nana. They only sell genuine generics LOL.
Flying in a couple of my boys from the US to celebrate a bachelor's party / birthday party. Small group of us 4.
Only in Bangkok for 3 or 4 days, so looking for a laundry list of things to do, sorta like a mongering Anthony Bourdain.
Not into creepy sketch pump and dump places, more upscale places, but not upscale prices that our Japanese and Korean brothers pay LOL.
Seems like a soapy is the best bet? Which might be the most upscale one while keeping in line with bang for buck? Simply cannot rank with all the feedback on this forum. I guess we're looking for tried and trusted. Can't explore with this limited time.
Also, is there any place from which it would be best to say take out 4 girls, back to the pad, for a house party kinda thing? Are there any places to stay where you can rent out a space w / multiple rooms, living room, kitchen area?
Thanks for the expert advice, brothers!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1270091]Really? Some people still have work to do. The folks I saw "well dressed" we older tourists, probably 60 up. No one should be "forced" to participate. It is one of the most passive agressive displays I have ever seen. Some of us don't enjoy having freezing water thrown on us and dousing someone who is unwilling is rude in ANY culture.[/QUOTE]Maybe if you tell your mommy she'll help you change into some dry clothes and make you a nice warm cup of hot chocolate so you feel better
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1269561]She is clearly not a post op ladyboy! Take a look at her figure. Anyways you guys can debate over these pictures and judge for yourself. I did not know that Thai doctors could do such a good job that at post op can get pregnant LOL[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mooris7;1269565]And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself![/QUOTE]Part 2.
Originally Posted by GentleBoner [View Original Post]
This thread is for discussing sex with women, not sex with post-op ladyboys. You should go back and flag your most recent post.
And you all know where she works so you can go see for yourself!
It seems either GentleBoner has been banned or has blocked me from seeing his posts. It takes a real man to make fake ladyboy comments and then block so no response can be made or so one cannot see anymore. Well anyways back to the topic at hand. I have received many requests for the girl in questions contact details. I will only provide them to a senior member who makes good contributions to the Bangkok forum.
Thanks
thanks all for the advice.
i did not mean to imply that i'm looking for five star service at rock bottom prices. i am simply looking for good value for the money. i have often read that thai sex workers seem to be more transactional, and perhaps i have been spoiled in the surrounding countries, but i don't think paying a girl 1500 baht st and then having her close her eyes and turn her head is a good value. i am not looking for some kind of love connection, but when a woman shows visible signs of not wanting to be there i feel like i am [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her. i know that some men just want to find the youngest or prettiest thing to pound away on but i don't find much joy in that.
more often than not the thai women i have slept with have been duds and i cannot figure out if i am picking the wrong ones, going to the wrong places or if poor performance is just par for the course. as a rule i don't generally go for the youngest or the prettiest, i tend to favor the ones who show a bit of flirtation towards me because those are the ones i had the best time with in other countries. i know that if not me it would be some other guy; however, i think things are more fun when the woman wants to show you a good time just as much as she wants your money.
i asked about the clothes because i have noticed that outward appearance seems to mean a lot to asians and my thinking, perhaps naively, was that by presenting myself better i may be able to get a woman who will at least pretend to want to be in the bedroom with me and make me want to repeat because i prefer consistency over variety. i've also noticed that in some places the men who are dressed a bit nicer (even if it is just jeans / polo / tennis shoes) tend to get a better reception from the women.
as far as asking about the freebies. we all have to have a dream!
[QUOTE=Nick Depalma;1270116]Not into creepy sketch pump and dump places,[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, that's the flavor dejour these days as BKK is becoming too expensive for the cheap charlies.. Soon the complainers will be making a beeline towards Cambodia LOL.
[QUOTE=Nick Depalma; 1270116]Also, is there any place from which it would be best to say take out 4 girls, back to the pad, for a house party kinda thing? Are there any places to stay where you can rent out a space w / multiple rooms, living room, kitchen area?
Thanks for the expert advice, brothers![/QUOTE]Just go to Soi Cowboy or Nana plaza and see what you like and talk to Mamasan with your idea. Money talks in LOS.
Long story short I met a girl on ThaiFriendly and she wants to meet up with me. I said I'd take her for dinner and some drinks.
She's leaving it up to me where to pick, but did ask that we not go out in Nana, where I'm staying, because all the guys asking to take her home makes her feel uncomfortable (aren't we awful). We get along well and have had some pretty sexy chats online so I'm hoping that she might come back to my hotel at the end of the night.
So my question to you. Where can I take her for a nice meal with a decent bar nearby (where we'll be able to chat so not loud music). She said she's not fussy on food (western, thai, whatever) and it doesn't need to be 5 star but still nice.
Any suggestions please are welcomed.
Where are you staying? Easier to give suggestions if we know.
Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.
[QUOTE=Vittu;1270826]Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.[/QUOTE]I too was going to suggest cabbages and condoms on Suhk Soi 12 because it's good Thai food. Get her to guide you on unusual choices and the setting cannot be beat at night. Try to get a table by the fountain. If it goes well she might not care what hotel you are in.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1270636]Unfortunately, that's the flavor dejour these days as BKK is becoming too expensive for the cheap charlies. Soon the complainers will be making a beeline towards Cambodia LOL.[/QUOTE]Bangkok is becoming boring, losing its "edge," and is just like most other major cities now, with the noted exception that the value for money here is now quite poor and NO that is not a cheap charlie statement as I think that Singapore is a great city where everything works, you can make good money, and things are of quality.
was showing my visiting friend around last night. she's open minded and bi playful.
went to baccara and straight upstairs to the "naked" part. this choice was based on isg reports and maybe stick's column. i'm not a gogo kind of customer. prefer the oilies. my friend commented that the ladies upstairs acted like we were not even there. meaning the entire audience. they danced for each other and looked at each other with zero audience involvement. personally i don't see how a punter could want to choose in those circumstances. and no one did while we were there. we left our $5 beers and went looking.
we popped into doll house saw 5 or 6 shufflers and no customers and walked back out.
we asked at suzy wong about the show and then went into a small bar called. well i'll post that later. they had 3 or 4 dancers on stage who would engage with the audience but we got snagged up by a hot one who responded well when i asked if she liked "lady lady". she sat between us and we bought her a couple of drinks. she was wildly friendly and would raise herself up off the seat for exploration by both of us. it was great fun for a 580 baht bar bill. we went back to suzy wong to catch the show. there was one on stage that i believe 90% of us would agree is a stunner. the show was worth seeing. my friend flew home this morning and i might go back to find "our adopted daughter" tonight. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] is best. the family that lays together stays together.
c4t
[QUOTE=Pita123;1270818]Where are you staying? Easier to give suggestions if we know.[/QUOTE]Staying at Maxim's Inn on Soi 7/1.
[QUOTE=Vittu;1270826]Noobmonger. None of my business, but since she is uncomfortable with Nana, I would change hotels pronto, if that is possible. Once that is settled, nothing else matters. You could even take her to Cabbages and Condoms. She will see it as great fun and will be in a giving mood.[/QUOTE]I got the impression she had no issue with where I was staying. It was more that she would have to walk alone through Nana to come and meet me there that she didn't like. I will consider changing, but I figured Nana would be a good place because if she doesn't come back to my hotel afterwards then I've got plenty of options on the doorstep for female company.
Also one thing I forgot to mention. I'm only in BKK for one night and won't get into my hotel until about 8pm so it'll need to be a placethat opens fairly late.
I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1270894]I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.[/QUOTE]I mean no offence when I say that your handle seems fitting. I think it's quite unusual. No, actually nearly impossible. For her to be shy and reserved and still talk about sex and the possibility of coming to your room. Do not be surprised if she turns out to be "semi-pro". Take her to C&C and you'll be glad you did.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger; 1270891]I got the impression she had no issue with where I was staying. It was more that she would have to walk alone through Nana to come and meet me there that she didn't like. I will consider changing, but I figured Nana would be a good place because if she doesn't come back to my hotel afterwards then I've got plenty of options on the doorstep for female company.
Also one thing I forgot to mention. I'm only in BKK for one night and won't get into my hotel until about 8pm so it'll need to be a placethat opens fairly late.[/QUOTE]Only one night? I guess you move fast LOL. Why not a sure thing at Soi Cowboy, nana, or any of the oilies?
[QUOTE=Noobmonger;1270894]I did consider Cabbages and Condom, but I've never been before and wasn't too sure if it might seem a little too forward. Whilst we've discussed sex during our chats and even the possibility of her coming back to my hotel if we hit it off she is quite shy and reserved. I wasn't sure if going somewhere that had condoms everywhere might be a little much.[/QUOTE]Cabbages and Condoms has a great history in BKK. The restaurant is excellent, and now they have one in Pattaya, which I go there every visit. The food is reasonable priced and great.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1270904]I mean no offence when I say that your handle seems fitting. I think it's quite unusual. No, actually nearly impossible. For her to be shy and reserved and still talk about sex and the possibility of coming to your room. Do not be surprised if she turns out to be "semi-pro". Take her to C&C and you'll be glad you did.[/QUOTE]No offence taken.
We've been talking for quite some time, not just a few days, and really only recently has the topic of sex been something she was comfortable discussing. Previously when I'd mentioned it she just went quiet or changed the subject. I've always been open with her about my intentions, not looking for a relationship etc. The talking about coming to my room is something I've dropped in as a kinda "joke" so I could claim I wasn't being serious if she took offence. She laughed it off and then eventually said "maybe, we will see".
I have mentioned C&C to her and she hadn't heard of it, but she didn't have a problem with meeting at Asoke so it could be a go.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1270905]Only one night? I guess you move fast LOL. Why not a sure thing at Soi Cowboy, nana, or any of the oilies?[/QUOTE]I'm just passing through on the way home from Cambodia. Originally I booked my room at Soi 7/1 specifically because of it's location. But as things developed between me and this girl I figured I'd give it a shot. I guess it's the thrill of the chase. If at the end of the evening I just put her in a taxi then nothing really lost because I'll just go on the prowl in Nana or Soi Cowboy. On the plus side I will have had a chance to spend a few hours having a nice dinner with someone I get along with well.
[QUOTE=Iowaska; 1268642]Hi all, I'm going to Thailand end of May, for two weeks, with my gf and two other couples (6 in total. All friends)
We arrive in Bangkok spend 3nights then travel to coh Chang spend 5 nights, then back to Bancok for another 3 nights (don't ask why the gf booked it! LOL).
I desperately wanted to go without the Mrs but because she's already been, there was no way she was gona let me go alone so we ended up in this group situation. Being as its 3 boys and 3 girls, the lads will Defo have a boys night out (a few if its up to me!)
My friend at work says pattya is a must for one night at least and we also intend to attend a moon party whilst were in co Chang one of the neighbouring islands are hosting one, just needed some advice on how best to punt and manouver to get the best possible experiences given the situation as I would want to slit my wrists if I came back to London without adequate exploration. Thanks.
Hi all, ima taking a verything is already pre booked and paid. Were arriving in Bangkok sat 26th may and are [email]staying@glow[/email] Trinity hotel, on 29th we take private minibus to Trat. Ferry to koh Chang, once in koh Chang were [email]staying@aana[/email] Resort until 6th June then back to Bangkok by minibus / ferry to stay at sky tower hotel leaving Bangkok for London on the 8th June. I understand there are loads of small islands surrounding coh Chang so I want to visit as many of them as possible, just looking for maximum experience out of a limited situation, I think I may have to feint argument just before holiday to gain some freedom / leverage. Hehe. Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?
Thanks[/QUOTE]U are definitely coming here to get ripped off.
Read this forum extensively, before coming or else your boys night out without any useful info will be a super waste of money.
I live here and I can meet up over a beer if you need and give some useful info.
But most importantly before you come here RTFF
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1269482]Agreed! Just don't like it. Sorry when someone is in business clothes and does not want to get doused with water and you douse them, it is inconsiderate, in every culture. I have tried to like this holiday but just can't. I at least get out once during the three days and amble to Cowboy for a bit, but whenever I pass someone that obviously does not want to get wet, I would not even think about dousing them. Passive aggressive this holiday is. Now if they would turn this into a three day feast and orgy, I would be game.[/QUOTE]Well clearly you are not into the spirit of Songkran: my TGF (not a WG) really spurred me on to join the water games: She said "If you wet people you wish them happy and freshy", which may be strange English but expresses it so well.
If you have to wear a business suit and do some business during Songkran then take a taxi from door to door and above all stay away from the Nana or Soi Cowboy area. The water gives both sender and receipient good karma, so far from it being rude it is actually part and parcel of this holiday and you'd do well not to import your boring western philosophy into the LOS. Next thing you will tell us is that you cannot stand the massage girls calling you "hansum man" as it is rude to lie to someone.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1270920]Cabbages and Condoms has a great history in BKK. The restaurant is excellent, and now they have one in Pattaya, which I go there every visit. The food is reasonable priced and great.[/QUOTE]Ate there a few days ago. It is really good. The place was packed. I recommend the Steamed fish.
[quote=joe looking; 1270545]thanks all for the advice.
i did not mean to imply that i'm looking for five star service at rock bottom prices. i am simply looking for good value for the money. i have often read that thai sex workers seem to be more transactional, and perhaps i have been spoiled in the surrounding countries, but i don't think paying a girl 1500 baht st and then having her close her eyes and turn her head is a good value. i am not looking for some kind of love connection, but when a woman shows visible signs of not wanting to be there i feel like i am [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her. i know that some men just want to find the youngest or prettiest thing to pound away on but i don't find much joy in that.
more often than not the thai women i have slept with have been duds and i cannot figure out if i am picking the wrong ones, going to the wrong places or if poor performance is just par for the course. as a rule i don't generally go for the youngest or the prettiest, i tend to favor the ones who show a bit of flirtation towards me because those are the ones i had the best time with in other countries. i know that if not me it would be some other guy; however, i think things are more fun when the woman wants to show you a good time just as much as she wants your money.
i asked about the clothes because i have noticed that outward appearance seems to mean a lot to asians and my thinking, perhaps naively, was that by presenting myself better i may be able to get a woman who will at least pretend to want to be in the bedroom with me and make me want to repeat because i prefer consistency over variety. i've also noticed that in some places the men who are dressed a bit nicer (even if it is just jeans / polo / tennis shoes) tend to get a better reception from the women.
as far as asking about the freebies. we all have to have a dream![/quote]one of the best short times i have had recently was with a lady from baccara in soi cowboy. her name is ant (or that is what she told me anyway) and her i. d is number 25, i would highly reccomend this lady
I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1271261]I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?[/QUOTE]Some guys cannot differentiate between attractive and unattractive, especially the newbies. It takes time.
Good, leaves the tasty ones for us, until they wake up and start to become discerning. I hope your hiso gf trades her car in for another new one, once the ashtrays are full, otherwise she will not be hi-so for very long. How do you do it? Hansum? Pay above the going rates? Big dick? Please let us in on it, a bit of hi-so every now and then does wonders.
i haven't been in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in years. in fact the last time i went there was when a friend was visiting from overseas.
the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down and try and make you cum as quickly as possible using their mouth as a stimulant! that is not a blowjob.
i find it absolutely pathetic that none of the girls in a "blow job" bar knows how to give a blow job! amazing thailand.
last time i went i was with a friend who was fresh off the boat and feeling as horny as a tom cat. he said he couldn't cum and the blow job was the worst he had ever had. i seconded his opinion at the time and also couldn't cum.
went there today with 2 friends here on holiday and all 3 of us this time couldn't cum and all 3 thought it was the worst blow job (as stated you cannot honestly call that a blow job) they have ever had.
this is absolutely pathetic for some where that calls itself a blow job bar. surely you would expect a blow job as the baseline rather than someone just bouncing their head in your lap with their mouth open and you cock inside it!
what a f*king joke that place is!
the real reason not to go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.
[quote=chill out;1271355]the real reason not to go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.[/quote]yep agree i was there last friday and a real dog grab me to go inside, i said [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and grab another scrubber, they are all good sorts when you close your eyes.
700 bt, beats spanking the monkey.
i didn't even go past [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] this year, it's all about the competitors now.
the latest lollipop visit was in the middle of the day, got a sweet thin girl that sat me down with a drink and was going to explain to me what kind of a place it is. she got a bit red faced when i said "i know what you do upstairs already" while smiling. sweet girl.
anyways, expert blowjob but i wanted some fs also, she got up to fetch some condoms but i was prepared and brought my own of a good size. she is one of the few people i have seen that just took the dick in one go without warming up or going for the ky tube. she just fell down on it and got going. not a hot dog in a hall way lady either.
good times and no complaints from me.
[QUOTE=Apeman 28; 1271362]Yep Agree I was there last Friday and a real dog grab me to go inside, I said [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and grab another scrubber, they are all good sorts when you close your eyes.
700 BT, beats spanking the monkey.[/QUOTE]Disagree. Does not beat spanking the monkey at all!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1271261]I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?[/QUOTE]To anser your troll with a troll.
Some guys look for girls that aren't empty shells of persons like the working girl dolls. Dolls expect to be treated like the dolls on soap tv. If they go TGF psyco as they do sometimes they know they still hold all the cards, after all they are high quality tits and ass. Homely girls past 25 that doesn't come from a broken home make good mothers if that is what you are looking for. They know they are on equal terms and behave there after, like normal people. If they loose it and go TGF crazy they know they will be treated as a crazy person and not calmed down with a pile of baths and a golden pendant.
I was in khon kaen for songkran and we visited a family resturant by the beach. The working girl fams, you know them, matriarch BG, sister BG, sister BG and son tuk tuk tout, dragging some farang around. They were screaming up the place, drunk as sailors, giving their ATMs lapdances in the resturant and so on. I'm sure they will settle down with their farang and start raising chickens for an actual job any time soon.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1271396]Disagree. Does not beat spanking the monkey at all![/QUOTE]Mate a Head job or Root is better than a wank, Especially in the land on Beer, Bars and Birds. How else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits!
[quote=apeman 28;1271406]mate a head job or root is better than a wank, especially in the land on beer, bars and birds. how else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits![/quote]my experience in bkk is very limited, as i really just stopped in the city for a few days on the way from australia to holland on a business trip where returning to the usa between meetings just did not make sense. this was about 2 years ago. i had on my menu of things to try: bj bars, go-go girls, a soapie, street girls and non p4p (this did not happen; my agenda was too ambitious for a 3 day stay). even though i thoroughly enjoyed the bj bar i went to (star something or other) , it is absolutely true that the bj bar did not have the prettiest girls, and that the speed my girls head went up and down was absurdly rapid. but i enjoyed the experience immensely.
in contrast to the raw experience of the bj bar, i found the bbbj in massage parlors to be a more tranquil way to get a blow job.
i remember that there was a street perpendicular to the end of soi cowboy; from my examination of google maps, i think it is called sukhumvit soi 23. if one turned left at the corner or cowboy and 23, a large quantity of massage places were available for one's entertainment. as an aficionado of the bbbj (like a few others on this board) i picked out a pretty young girl who was sitting on the curb by the road, and asked her quietly if she would give me a blow job. the cost was 1000 baht (this was 2 years ago) and she not only stripped for me in private, but gently sucked me for nearly 30 minutes and gave me a massage afterwords. the cost was only 300 baht more than a bj bar, and the selection of girls in these massage places was fantastic: many of them were beautiful and young (some of them were ugly and/or old, but i was under no obligation to choose them). as i was ostensibly paying for a massage by the hour, the girl was not rushed simply to get me to come in order that she could move onto the next customer.
on my last night in bkk, i had to catch a 1 am flight ams. i therefore went down to this area of massage places at 10-11 pm-ish and picked out a sweet, but quite inexperienced beautiful young woman. while she agreed to the bj, it was clearly reluctantly. i discovered that she was a new girl, aged 19, and did not know how to give a bj. i spent some time giving her instructions and finally gave up and fucked her. she was clearly quite relieved when we switched from oral to vaginal, and did not charge me the additional 500 baht for full service (indeed, she was so happy to change from bj to fucking that she almost fucked me without a condom. i had to insist). i gave her the extra cash anyway. my god was this girl beautiful! my plans for my next trip to bkk in june, when i have an entire week, are to go to a massage place everyday for a daily blow job. i think that going before soi cowboy, say at 5 pm before dinner, would be perfect.
[QUOTE=Noobmonger; 1270814]Long story short I met a girl on ThaiFriendly and she wants to meet up with me. I said I'd take her for dinner and some drinks.
She's leaving it up to me where to pick, but did ask that we not go out in Nana, where I'm staying, because all the guys asking to take her home makes her feel uncomfortable (aren't we awful). We get along well and have had some pretty sexy chats online so I'm hoping that she might come back to my hotel at the end of the night.
So my question to you. Where can I take her for a nice meal with a decent bar nearby (where we'll be able to chat so not loud music). She said she's not fussy on food (western, thai, whatever) and it doesn't need to be 5 star but still nice.
Any suggestions please are welcomed.[/QUOTE]Go to Central World, Emporium, Siam Paragon. Go to Dinner and then a Movie. Then drinks or. Your place
[quote=chill out;1271355]the real reason not to go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] is because they have some of the ugliest girls in the country. it's hard to find really ugly girls in thailand, but they have managed it well. what a team! the 45 years old lady selling you hot dogs in the street is a supermodel compared to the girls there.[/quote]damn, too bad wild country is closed! then you would have been dead wrong. anyway, i think many of the shitty outdoor bars of soi 22 have much uglier girls than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
Does anyone know if it can be ordered online?
Thanks and happy horndogging.
[quote=apeman 28;1271406]mate a head job or root is better than a wank, especially in the land on beer, bars and birds. how else does a 3rd world country survive without any tourist $$$ and sperm deposits![/quote]yeah normally i know what you mean. but this is why it was just sooooo pathetic. it genuinely was way way worse than a wank. punching yourself in the nuts would be a more sexually pleasing experience than a blowjob at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. and that's not even getting into how ugly they are, i am even giving them the benefit of the doubt on that front and just judging them on their so called craft (or total lack thereof).
[quote=bowerboy; 1271350]i haven't been in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in years. in fact the last time i went there was when a friend was visiting from overseas.
the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down.
this is absolutely pathetic for some where that calls itself a blow job bar. surely you would expect a blow job as the baseline rather than someone just bouncing their head in your lap with their mouth open and you cock inside it!
what a f*king joke that place is![/quote]since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. lead by example, man and not by complaining. you want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1271462]Since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. Lead by example, man and not by complaining. You want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)[/QUOTE]Woop woop woop. Good one.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1271261]I was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new Honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?[/QUOTE]The true hiso girls drive Mini's or other European imports.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1271261]I thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad Pitt, huge Jackman, and and tom Cruise. Perhaps the Thai tourist industry has decieved us?[/QUOTE]LOS has moved well past 1980's.
I have been reading over the forum for a while before my trip there in the next two weeks. I have a fair idea what I want to cover off, but just interested in other professional member's suggestions or comments.
I am planning to go vist:
Soi Cowboy.
- Baccara, check out the dances or shows, see if can see anything interesting.
- SuzieWong. Check out again
- Rio kiss Deja Vue, avoid this places as per shit reviews.
Afterskool.
- try the BJ in the bar exp.
Nana Plaza.
- Rainbow 1.
Massage.
- Tulip.
- Mango (can not seem to find the location on this one)
If I am off the mark, let me know.
I went for a 2 days business cum sex trip to Bangkok last few days and was intro by my friend to this place in rachadapisek. Since it was songkran which is their new year so not much stuff left to choose. On the First day I went to Emxxxxxx place and only have 7 gals to choose and decided to check out the nearby. Finally saw this place call Naxxxxx, went in and to my surprise there had more than 100 gals to choose although it's the songkran festival now. To save my time I did a quick scan and decided to choose this fresh chick. My fr:-
Day 1.
Place:emxxxxx.
Name: tip.
Age:19.
Face:8. 5/10.
Look: CFM uncle.
Service: b2b, BJ, ar, fj, including rub and scratch you during the jacuzzi session.
Time allow: 2 hours (no rush)
Damage: bt2600
Wir: yup as the mandarin speaking out told me they even have model looking which cause bt4000 as they went home for festival.
Room condition:6/10.
Day 2.
Place:VIP
Name:Ning.
Age:18.
Face:9/10.
Look:fresh from oven.
Service: BJ and fj (although no experience but tight) I'm loving it.
Time:2 hours.
Damage:500bt (for massage) + 1500 bt (fj) = 2000.
Wir:yup
Room condition:4/10 the room condition and the environment is a bit down.
[QUOTE=SuperRaven; 1271653]I am planning to go vist:
Nana Plaza.
- Rainbow 1.
If I am off the mark, let me know.[/QUOTE]You are off the mark by a factor of 3: go upstairs to Rainbow 4 instead.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1271462]Since they haven't had a good teacher, perhaps you could show them how to do it. Lead by example, man and not by complaining. You want it done right, you damn well show them how to do it.:-)[/QUOTE]IME how Bowerboy described the BBBJ is how the vast majority of FL TGs I've met do it, which would be a sample size of a few dozen, perhaps. Many of them may already know other ways to do it, but may find by doing it mechanicly it makes it easier for their mind to think of other things and be somewhere else.
But if they haven't learned other techniques, then by all means teach them. On my latest trip I found that some girls who had been lacking in their skills previously had upped their game in certain regards. Clearly many sex workers have the advantage of having many teachers from all over the world. And that's a good thing. They should be the sex experts of all women. I've certainly learned a few things from them, and taught them a few too.
As to BBBJ techique, I actually prefer the same motion for the most part. Sometimes I'll ask them to go a bit slower or faster, tighter or less tight. Sometimes I like a bit of teasing or build up to the main BBBJ event, or some variety, as in BLS or licking the knob in various ways, or banging it on her tongue, etc, the kind of stuff you see and learn about in porn.
Also I'd have to agree with Bowerboy that a BBBJ can be worse than a do it yourself HJ. IME some things that can ruin an erection, or cause it to never happen, are talking too much, especially mentally retarded or rude comments, having no skills like it's her first time or she's not even trying, stopping every 5 seconds to spit, etc. In these cases it can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off for a few days, in that I'd rather be alone & wank than be with any woman. So some TGs can spoil it for others who are worthy.
[quote=superraven; 1271653]i have been reading over the forum for a while before my trip there in the next two weeks. i have a fair idea what i want to cover off, but just interested in other professional member's suggestions or comments.
i am planning to go vist:
soi cowboy.
- baccara, check out the dances or shows, see if can see anything interesting.
- suziewong. check out again
- rio kiss deja vue, avoid this places as per shit reviews.
afterskool.
- try the bj in the bar exp.
nana plaza.
- rainbow 1.
massage.
- tulip.
- mango (can not seem to find the location on this one)
if i am off the mark, let me know.[/quote]i guess you will be curious about the gogo's. but, i would skip everything you want to do but the mp's. the gogo's are a rip off with mediocore service from my experience. i never go to them anymore.
i would go to biergarten and gulliver's for fl. the grace hotel area after midnight for sw's. hit up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and dr. bj. also there are many mp's that are not mentioned here that will give great fs at reasonable prices.
[quote=luvpuss; 1271878]i guess you will be curious about the gogo's. but, i would skip everything you want to do but the mp's. the gogo's are a rip off with mediocore service from my experience. i never go to them anymore.
i would go to biergarten and gulliver's for fl. the grace hotel area after midnight for sw's. hit up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and dr. bj. also there are many mp's that are not mentioned here that will give great fs at reasonable prices.[/quote]i would not take luvpuss's advice if i were you, especially as you probably don't have such a tight budget and are probably not so price oriented. not everyone likes the same stuff. i don't do freelancers much. its hard to find really pretty ones (while they do exist) , and i am happy to pay more for a really hot looking girl. watch out for ladyboy free-lancers too. some of them can look so good, you can be fooled.
i suggest you try every different style so you will be able to decide what you like and what you don't.
mango is very easy to find. enter sukhumvit soi 24. after 50 metres when at emporium, turn left. you can't miss it.
i would recommend trying a soapy like coba cabana, or emmanuelle (with body slide available) , or nataree (body slide) , or annies.
while doing bars, rainbow 4 really has some super lookers. also compare sheba with suzi wong. sister bars but sheba may have better looking girls. both are good nudie bars.
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1271445]Does anyone know if it can be ordered online?
Thanks and happy horndogging.[/QUOTE]The jelly is really stupid stuff IMHO. 100 mg per pack is far too much for most people, so what are you going to do, try to consume 25 to 50% of it and keep the rest for later to spill and make a mess?
Kamagra pills can easily be broken into pieces and can keep the rest for later more conveniently. They don't take that long to take effect (maybe 20-25 mins unless have just eaten a lot). Even if the jelly acts 10 mins quicker, I don't see the point, unless you don't mind throwing away what is left over.
There are also chewable tablets available which probably taste better but cost more.
I have not ordered online myself, but have heard some say its possible.
However since Kamagra are illegal (against patent) copies, I would be careful about which Country you try it from.
This is a Thai forum and its real easy to buy in many Sukhumvit pharmacies, especially small ones in the Sois. When in Thailand just stock up and hope you don't get caught in customs.
Cialis or Apcalis is supposed to work for a much longer time period (up to 48 hours verses 4 hours) but is not as strong in effect as Kamagra, so I reckon its not worth bothering with.
I find I don't need any Kamagra when fucking girls I know well, when everything is nice easy and relaxed, but Kamagra can certainly assist with a non-relaxed situation, e. G. The girl is scared of your big dick and because she doesn't know you well yet, and so she doesn't exactly open the legs wide, relaxed, and invitingly, or when girls fuss and want to change condoms part way through. Anyway you can understand that there are various mood dampeners that Kamagra can help overcome. It doesn't counteract too much alcohol very well though.
[QUOTE=Bond 007;1271744]Emxxxxxx Naxxxxx CFM uncle fresh from oven.[/QUOTE]Message decoded and understood. Q has an interesting wristwatch for you. Don't break it.
[quote=bowerboy;1271447]yeah normally i know what you mean. but this is why it was just sooooo pathetic. it genuinely was way way worse than a wank.[/quote]everyone (almost) knows that all places have their good girls and their crap (unskillful newbies maybe) girls. its a mixed bag. you roll the dice and if you get lucky, you get a fantastic bj. when you get a crap girl, put it down to experience, and quickly find a replacement. i sure that not all [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] girls give bad bj. they would go out of business very quick if that were true.
i recall going there for a bj when i had only 20-30 mins away from the gf, and she was having her period. i have had a rather ordinary to boring one and also had good ones including full sex.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003;1271945]Message decoded and understood. Q has an interesting wristwatch for you. Don't break it.[/QUOTE]What about the bit starting with "Wir:"? That was just plain jumblish to me (and my stuff is only "near English"). Obviously not the British Bond or was he a victim of the auto spelling-correcter having a virus in the works? ;) Perhaps he was trying to type his message on the special watch-internet-phone.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1271932]I would not take Luvpuss's advice if I were you, especially as you probably don't have such a tight budget and are probably not so price oriented. Not everyone likes the same stuff. I don't do freelancers much. Its hard to find really pretty ones (while they do exist) , and I am happy to pay more for a really hot looking girl. Watch out for ladyboy free-lancers too. Some of them can look so good, you can be fooled.
I suggest you try every different style so you will be able to decide what you like and what you don't.
Mango is very easy to find. Enter Sukhumvit Soi 24. After 50 metres when at Emporium, turn left. You can't miss it.
I would recommend trying a Soapy like Coba Cabana, or Emmanuelle (with body slide available) , or Nataree (body slide) , or Annies.
While doing bars, Rainbow 4 really has some super lookers. Also compare Sheba with Suzi Wong. Sister bars but Sheba may have better looking girls. Both are good nudie bars.[/QUOTE]That is because you really have no idea what you are doing. Don't you know how to figure out if it is a LB??
The Gogo's are commercial establishments set up for the inexperienced monger. That is why they are full of Japanese and Korean business men and tourists who have no idea where to find the best girls. Pretty lame tourist traps really.
It is not a price issue. It is quailty of service.
Much better options for service and attitude and looks away from those places.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1271957]That is because you really have no idea what you are doing. Don't you know how to figure out if it is a LB?[/QUOTE]Just a friendly warning for inexperienced newbies.
Yes we understand you don't like gogo bars. I still think every tourist wants to have a look so they will know what it is about. Then can decide its total shit or otherwise.
I have been coming to Thailand for 20 years and speak Thai very well. Despite that I still like to look at girls with great bodies dancing nude occasionally. Its a mental abberation. If I was on your budget, I wouldn't. No its not just for Japanese. I know a Farang guy who has lived in BKK for over 20 years and he still goes to gogo bars. Must have the same sickness as me but worse. He often doesn't take a girl away but still likes to drink and look. I don't find that gogo girls have bad attitude, assuming a wise choice. I guess what you mean by "bad attitude" is unwillingness to go for your price.
I don't have the time or patience to go looking for top free-lancers any more and get bored at Biergarten very quickly by the lack of lookers. Each to their own preference. No doubt there are better places but not all of us have the time available to research it (my leave pass from GF is usually not that long). I rarely go to a BJ bar unless desperate for a quickie, since they don't exactly have any lookers either.
For me, its all about finding hot girls, wherever they can be found. So try everything, I say.
Hi all.
I went to Baccara on Saturday night just before 12 and was very surprised to be refused entry until I had bought a drink at the outside bar. I was there on a Thursday night previously and did not receive the same reception. My protestation that there may not be any seats (Saturday night is usually busy there) and my assurances that I would buy a drink upstairs made no difference. I really like Baccara and will go back but did not appreciate being treated like that.
[quote=tony hoeprano;1271261]i was riding around with my new hiso gf in her new honda and noticed a strange phenomenon, most falangs had ugly girlfriends, mostly dark skinned either too skinny or too fat, and flat-nosed. i thought all thai girls like falang, comparing them to movie stars like brad pitt, huge jackman, and and tom cruise. perhaps the thai tourist industry has decieved us?[/quote]
only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t.h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite déclassé.
[quote=bowerboy;1271350][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s...
the reason i never go there is because they are hopeless at blow jobs. all they do is bounce their head up and down and try and make you cum as quickly as possible using their mouth as a stimulant! that is not a blowjob.
i find it absolutely pathetic that none of the girls in a "blow job" bar knows how to give a blow job! amazing thailand.
[/quote]
bowerboy you could not be more right! [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. you get a far better blow job (and for about the same price) from any streetwalker back in the bad place. the only place i like to go to bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong - it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
i think the reason thai girls are so bad at bjs is they absolutely hate giving them - i think many western prostitutes view the bj as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. that and i think thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the western male's sexual needs - they think we are like thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact thai men prefer their service providers to be good at [i]pretending not to be experienced[/i], not to be good at sex).
Opebo,
The king's eldest daughter, Princess Ubolratana, married an American while attending MIT. Plus many thousand more upscale Siamese from the time of King Chulalongkorn onward.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1272210]I think the reason Thai girls are so bad at BJs is they absolutely hate giving them - I think many Western prostitutes view the BJ as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while Thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. That and I think Thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the Western male's sexual needs - they think we are like Thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact Thai men prefer their service providers to be good at [i]pretending not to be experienced[/i], not to be good at sex).[/QUOTE]Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.
There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Kaintuck; 1272258]Opebo,
The king's eldest daughter, Princess Ubolratana, married an American while attending MIT. Plus many thousand more upscale Siamese from the time of King Chulalongkorn onward.[/QUOTE]Opebo says:
"Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM"
He's talking about now, not decades ago.
Most of the thai girls you see now days with farang are low level throw backs. It's all economics really. If western currencies tripled overnight and Asian currencies crashed, then farang would be the "in" thing again.
[QUOTE=Jayf1970; 1272267]Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.
There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I'd recommend Pookie working at the Hillary Bar. When I saw her she was standing at a table with a small party going on. Her ass is very nice and she turned to me and asked if I wanted to play pool or play her. Turns out she works there. She is not jaded and provided a very good time for 2, 000 LT.
C4T
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1272277]Opebo says:
"Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM"
He's talking about now, not decades ago.
Most of the thai girls you see now days with farang are low level throw backs. It's all economics really. If western currencies tripled overnight and Asian currencies crashed, then farang would be the "in" thing again.[/QUOTE]The farang wasn't really "in" back then either. You'll note the other part of the story was omitted: where a particular individual who is HIGHLY regarded in this country stripped his daughter of her title and unofficially exiled her to the US because she decided to do the local equivalent (in many social circles) of 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner' mentioned in this thread.
There are certainly exceptions of course, but those are along the lines of Obama becoming president. It certainly doesn't mean you can say something like 'see, blacks are doing great in America! ' (conveniently ignoring prison, welfare, unemployment, unwed mothers, etc. Figures). A farang and Thai couple where both met in college in the US, or who are both executives at the same multinational, roughly the same age, and so forth is NOT quite 'the same' as a the multitude of couples where the age difference is 20+ years, one party is relatively educated (guess which) and the other is likely first generation off the farm with a 3rd grade equivalent education. That latter couple can't really look to the former couple and say, 'see Wheezy, we're moving on up. '
[QUOTE=Jayf1970; 1272267]Thats insightful. Totally agree. I enjoyed BKK when I was an amateur monger, but no longer do so for this exact reason.
There is another reason, which I am hoping some of you can help mitigate. I like my women to have some meat on the bone and BKK / Thailand simply doesn't have many full figured beauties with nice round asses that I crave. Having said that, I did have the pleasure of meeting a few over the years. My question is can you recommend any full figured ladies that give decent service? Kate at Mango seems to fit the bill. Any others you can recommend?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I can't agree more, I love full figured girls, with round asses and get very few of them, most girls here are gazelle type, which I believe the mongers too prefer.
Any information about full figured girls will be welcome.
I wanted to start a thread especially for that, but as soon as I proposed, one monger objected to it, so I didn't start a thread.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1255322]Yeah, but if you want to talk about girls (females) , it's Filipinas.[/QUOTE]Of course, thats what I was alluding to.
[QUOTE=Mooris7;1262044]Every girl I posted here and in the photo gallery is better looking than most or all in the photo gallery. I think you and gentleboner need to get together in the Nana parking lot. I think you can find a girl that will give you a 2 for 1 special since you probably can't afford much else. LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, but they are tourist photo's. Anyone of us can do that. No indication they ever made it to your bedroom, plus you repeat same photo's of same girls too much.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1272210]Only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang ATM, T.H. The vast majority of Thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. Thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite déclassé.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree with the lowest of lower class. Maybe the lowest class have free sex with taxi drivers LOL. One cannot fault the Thais for forming negative opinions of the falang. Face it, its not like the cream of society are pulling down their britches at BJ bars.
Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.
Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1272478]Not sure I agree with the lowest of lower class. Maybe the lowest class have free sex with taxi drivers LOL. One cannot fault the Thais for forming negative opinions of the falang. Face it, its not like the cream of society are pulling down their britches at BJ bars.
Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.
Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.[/QUOTE]LOL, and of course those classy russians in Pattaya. I'm afraid the typical farang stereotype will be the norm for many years. Now offsetting this to a small degree, they do encounter ocassional gentlemen farang like the Global Nanpa guy, a german excutive of some type, who is doing alot of video shooting, including a very recent high definition exceptionally well done video at Club Sherbert over in Ekamai. That guy really knows how to charm Thai women to get the videos he wants. I guess the dollars he's throwing around do not hurt either.
[quote=opebo; 1272210]only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t. h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite theéclassé.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. the only place to get bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong. it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
right, opebo,
this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.
i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?
regards.
fv
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1272478]Anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. Yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.[/QUOTE]IMO that's s longshot, even if she lives, manages to be continuously relected, and all of the following don't occur again:
Sieges of airports and cities.
Half the country being underwater.
Coups, bombings & assassination attempts.
Hysterical mass political riots.
Tsunamis {e. G. Phuket, Japan)
War in the South.
Thaksin living in LOS.
Worldwide economic decline.
General ineptitude.
Porn sessions in parliament
I heard the girls there are old and ugly.
[quote=flyingvisitor; 1272534]this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.
i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?[/quote]i don't see why it's important whether or not you're an exhibitionist. are you suggesting that if you're not willing to show the entire bar your sex acts that you don't deserve to have fun? exhibitionist or not. either way is okay. it's a personal choice. the important part is how much you enjoy the bj. i've had good experiences with sol and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in the past.
today i decided to visit a bj bar. i called to make a reservation for dr. bj at 4pm. it was going to be my first session ever. i showed up early and was told that my girl called in sick. how inconvenient! i wasn't really enjoying soi 7/1 or dr. bj with its weird setup. why do they put the lineup on the upper level? what's with the 2 different prices for service, and why weren't they clearly displayed in the lineup? why did the host expect me to pick some total stranger after i spent my time reading their website carefully and making an appointment?
instead of staying i decided to try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, which is more of a "sure thing" in my mind. my regular girl at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is on the night shift and starts at 4pm. luckily even though i arrived at 3:45 she was there. i had a fantastic session as usual. i'd gladly repeat. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s does have some talented staff. i don't spend any time at all wondering why it's a popular spot.
I popped in and noticed Rabbit has returned. If you enjoyed rubbing your bell end against her tonsils in the past, you can now repeat.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1272662]I hear the same same. Some of the girls sit outside and they are as you describe.[/QUOTE]I will go to check it out now. If the girls are too horrible then I am heading to Annie.
It's all relative. The girls at Eden are indeed older and less attractive. Not to mention the weft of (perhaps somewhat imagined knowing what goes on there) excrement that one smells when the door opens there. Annie's, Darling, a bit younger perhaps, but also pretty darn ugly. OMMV.
[quote=tony hoeprano;1272478]anyways, enjoy it while it lasts. yingluck's mission is to eliminate poverty by 2020.[/quote]the demise of our fun will not be because of any 'anti-poverty' efforts of the current regime, but primarily due to the enormous decline in the thai birthrate. there simply aren't very many young people to replenish positions which (in theory) require a modicum of attractiveness, and after all, they haven't been driven to it by desperate poverty as such for a decade or more. its just easy, big money.
if there is any regime-effect it will be the ever-increasing prudery and social control which is brought on by democracy. 'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1272478]Obese german sex toursts, smelly backpackers, criminal types, and creepy ESL teachers give the falang bad name! It's like Ringling Bros Circus coming into town, but they get free admission at the gate.[/QUOTE]Like these are what you see skulking lower Sukh? Not hardly.
Reality is dessicated old, hanging-gut distended, incipient geriatrics on barstools draining pints into heads big as watermelons; this is what you see at Nana, they're soapie and oily patrons. The kind of guys who show up when you call a number in the yellow pages to have something unclogged or trash hauled away. Lifelong proles who had the fortune to be born into countries with a social welfare system. How could any Thai above subsistence poverty be caught dead on the arm of one of these? No offense to anyone like this living out the string in Bangkok, but keep it real
Just went there. The girls were looks were pretty lame but I did them anyway.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1270854]Bangkok is becoming boring, losing its "edge," and is just like most other major cities now, with the noted exception that the value for money here is now quite poor and NO that is not a cheap charlie statement as I think that Singapore is a great city where everything works, you can make good money, and things are of quality.[/QUOTE]You do not know, what you are asking for.
The real name is Singa-bore, boring. Expensive, lousy service, drinks watered down, average restaurants.
Perhaps we could change jobs? You come to Singapore, I go to Bangkok.
[quote=flyingvisitor; 1272534]
[quote=opebo; 1272210]this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.
i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?[/quote]i don't claim to prefer [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and have tried both places. it purely depends on which girl you get.
sometimes the choice of venue comes down to which one will take less than 5 mins to get to, when time is really short for getting a quick bj.
yes i have had sex in the public bar, but it is not a requirement to be public to enjoy a blowjob by any means. that would be a mental sickness.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1272441]I can't agree more, I love full figured girls, with round asses and get very few of them, most girls here are gazelle type, which I believe the mongers too prefer.
Any information about full figured girls will be welcome.
I wanted to start a thread especially for that, but as soon as I proposed, one monger objected to it, so I didn't start a thread.[/QUOTE]She Annies thread for the girl with super F cups. Can't comment on the ass. I prefer Apple like ass with gap between the upper thighs.
[quote=flyingvisitor; 1272534]
[quote=opebo; 1272210]only the lowest of the lower classes are interested in the farang atm, t. h. the vast majority of thai women would find it a bit of an embarrassment to be seen with the farang. thais generally see farang as inferior and somewhat repulsive, and because of the sex-industry factor, for a woman to have a foriegner boyfriend is seen as quite theéclassé.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is one of the worst, but it is true that a good blow job is incredibly rare in thailand. the only place to get bjs in thailand is star of light in patpong. it is still not as good as an 'american girl' blow job, but much better than places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
right, opebo,
this is also my strong opinion. in the past i regularly was disappointed at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and prefer to go to sol in pat ii.
i wonder, why a major number of mongers like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. may be they are too shy to enjoy in the public of a bj bar?
regards.
fv[/quote]hi,
i love a good bj i have been [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s lots an a open bj bar but never been to sol can you tell me where it is?
how to find it?
what soi it on all what it near.
an how much it cost $
what time it open.
thanks
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1272908]Reality is dessicated old, hanging-gut distended, incipient geriatrics on barstools draining pints into heads big as watermelons[/QUOTE]Hey! That's enough of reality, OK? Reality sucks.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1272210]I think the reason Thai girls are so bad at BJs is they absolutely hate giving them - I think many Western prostitutes view the BJ as much preferable to give rather than regular sex, while Thai working girls would always rather be rogered than suck the penis. That and I think Thai girls typically have little or no understanding of the Western male's sexual needs - they think we are like Thai men who require virtually nothing to cum. (in fact Thai men prefer their service providers to be good at [i]pretending not to be experienced[/i], not to be good at sex).[/QUOTE]I kinda disagree with parts of what you say just because from my own experience, I got a different feeling. Let me explain.
During the last couple years I stayed away from P4P and went only with Regular thai ladies (your run of the mil office worker if you will) and I can attest to one thing: They LOVE having a cock in their mouth. They love to play with it, kiss it, suck it. They (again, this is only my experience) understood the pleasure it brings to a guy and how they can be "in control" just by toying with it, Hand or Mouth.
I can also tell you that ALL non P4P ladies did not bat an eye when I "came" inside their mouths. Some would finish sucking and RUN to the bathroom to spit, some would swallow the whole load and refer to it as "Protein".
As for the rest, I can tell you, you are dead-on! EVERY Thai girl I have been with started to open up about their Thai Boyfriends that always want to fuck on the bed (I like to Vary) and only is interested in Cumming as fast as possible. No Foreplay, No care for the woman's orgasm.
I have been very successful in hooking up with girls and one thing I learned, they LOVE to have their pussies Licked. One thing Thai Guys don't do.
[QUOTE=HotForever; 1272996]You do not know, what you are asking for.
The real name is Singa-bore, boring. Expensive, lousy service, drinks watered down, average restaurants.
Perhaps we could change jobs? You come to Singapore, I go to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]And you have Batam and the other wh (*e islands just a hop away. Michelangelo's is one of my favorite Italian restaurants in Asia.
[quote=opebo; 1272898]the demise of our fun will not be because of any 'anti-poverty' efforts of the current regime, but primarily due to the enormous decline in the thai birthrate. there simply aren't very many young people to replenish positions which (in theory) require a modicum of attractiveness, and after all, they haven't been driven to it by desperate poverty as such for a decade or more. its just easy, big money.
if there is any regime-effect it will be the ever-increasing prudery and social control which is brought on by democracy. 'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.[/quote]the population pyramid inverted here in 97. you are correct.
[quote=opebo;1272898]'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.[/quote]sorry for going off-topic, but that's the most brilliant quote i heard in a decade. where did it come from, who wrote that?
sums up my feelings about living in thailand. we farang have absolutely zero say about running the thai society (to the point that even well-meaning, qualified advice is unwelcome) , yet we are more free here than back home (where we do have a stake and a voice).
I never done this. My third pop came when I asked for oil rub in my room and next thing you know I paid 1k Baht for a HJ.
I actually just want to eat and get a traditional thai massage until tonight.
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[quote=flyingvisitor; 1272534]i love a good bj i have been [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s lots an a open bj bar but never been to sol can you tell me where it is?[/quote]patpong soi ii, about 50 m from foodland (going towards surawong road). the sol door is in the back row, obscured by the beer bar in front. always a few girls sitting and eating in front. price is 700 baht last time i was there, might have gone up in the meantime. open all day, whether from 10 am or noon i'm not sure, but certainly suitable for a daytime pop.
sol is way better than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] imo, but certainly a niche place, as the works are done in public and it doesn't have private booths (unless you count the toilet).
[QUOTE=Western787;1272533]LOL, and of course those classy russians in Pattaya. I'm afraid the typical farang stereotype will be the norm for many years. Now offsetting this to a small degree, they do encounter ocassional gentlemen farang like the Global Nanpa guy, a german excutive of some type, who is doing alot of video shooting, including a very recent high definition exceptionally well done video at Club Sherbert over in Ekamai. That guy really knows how to charm Thai women to get the videos he wants. I guess the dollars he's throwing around do not hurt either.[/QUOTE]I'm familiar with the Global Nanpa dude's videos. He's more a rich and extremely smart dude than a true charmer. I believe he graduated at MIT. However, some of his videos are painful to watch, sometimes you can really tell the girls he's with aren't into him. Check out his Maiake g-club videos, those are some smokin hot girls!
Just planning to get a haircut and nails done. I absolutely never would do this anywhere back in my country, but watching a beautiful Thai or asian girl do my nails might be fun. I recall a place near Soi 2, and it was right on Sukhumvit Road, but when I went by a few months ago, it looked like the place was gone, due to new building construction I believe.
The girl that does my hair doesn't have to be a beauty, but I definitely want some nice girls doing my nails.
Sorry if I chose the wrong section of this forum.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1273404]Just planning to get a haircut and nails done. I absolutely never would do this anywhere back in my country, but watching a beautiful Thai or asian girl do my nails might be fun. I recall a place near Soi 2, and it was right on Sukhumvit Road, but when I went by a few months ago, it looked like the place was gone, due to new building construction I believe.
The girl that does my hair doesn't have to be a beauty, but I definitely want some nice girls doing my nails.
Sorry if I chose the wrong section of this forum.[/QUOTE]Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1273431]Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.
Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1273449]Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.
Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.[/QUOTE]Walk in the direction of Soi 5 on Suk, you will find the salon about 40 meters on your right.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1273431]Try August Salon. 109 Suk. In between Soi 5 and 7. I have been getting my haircut there for 10 years, and they do a good job. There is an "older" gal Tem that gives an excellent haircut. The younger set do the mani / pedis. Tell them that "KFC" sent you over.[/QUOTE]That's my favourite too. Good attentive service. They do also foot massages and I have seen a lot of guys getting face treatments. Serves both men and women. 800b will get you haircut and mani / pedi services.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1273452]Walk in the direction of Soi 5 on Suk, you will find the salon about 40 meters on your right.[/QUOTE]The guy has to be aware that shortly before August, coming from Soi 2, there is another salon attended by LB's, very obvious looking. Nothing wrong with it, but some guy might feak out. Never tried, BTW.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1273288]I'm familiar with the Global Nanpa dude's videos. He's more a rich and extremely smart dude than a true charmer. I believe he graduated at MIT. However, some of his videos are painful to watch, sometimes you can really tell the girls he's with aren't into him. Check out his Maiake g-club videos, those are some smokin hot girls![/QUOTE]Yes, the Maiake video is excellent and I see it was linked in here a month of two back. The new Sherbert video (below) is also excellent, with great house music and a full 10 minutes in 1080 HD. The girls as far as I can tell seem to act all giddy around him most of the time. Probably a little bit of charm and a lot of cash flying around, but in any case he's presenting a postive image for Farangs. The guy definitely spends as he will rent out penthouse level suites in top hotels, in part just to put them on his site. Seems like he gets permission or approval for some of his filming, and I believe tries for example to keep the camera off customers in G clubs, so I guess the clubs know he's trustworthy.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9UoYolu-g[/url]
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1273449]Thanks very much. I hope I will have some more replies, maybe I can try one different salon every 2 weeks.
Is August Salon right on Sukhumvit road? I am usually going by Soi 7 and Soi 7/1 (Coffee World / Subway) , as I try to stop by Magic Table once in a while.[/QUOTE]Could you give us a report on Magic Table?
I've been past it many times and maybe I'm missing something good.
On the same soi, try Loong at Plame Massage. About 30 years old or so and maybe would be a star at Mango's or similar famous place.
Tell her that guy from Ranong sent you. I get her for an hour at 1200 tip and 400 massage fee. She'll get right to it if you tell her what you want.
C4T
Hey C4t,
Magic Table is NOT a massage place, although by the name it might seem like it is. Go check it out. It's very relaxed. Lots of room inside, as well as outside, with a pool table. Only place like it on Soi 7/1. I'm not sure, but I believe that when you are sitting next to "Table" where girls dance, you can look up and see underneath = Magic. Yes there is also a VIP room.
It is located right next door to Dr BJ (have not been in).
Any more recommendations for hair salons?
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1273656].
Any more recommendations for hair salons?[/QUOTE]Soi 15. It is on your left hand side (about 150 feet) as you enter the Soi. They also have foot massage next door by the same owner. Been using them for many years.
Stopped by there last December. Not much in the talent at that time, but times change, Yes they do forget to put their panties on when they go to work. Seats are lower than the stages so the view can be fun and most interesting. Sadly, never have I partaken in the offerings.
Where in BKK is this place sherbet? Or did I miss that part?
[QUOTE=Western787; 1273608]Yes, the Maiake video is excellent and I see it was linked in here a month of two back. The new Sherbert video (below) is also excellent, with great house music and a full 10 minutes in 1080 HD. The girls as far as I can tell seem to act all giddy around him most of the time. Probably a little bit of charm and a lot of cash flying around, but in any case he's presenting a postive image for Farangs. The guy definitely spends as he will rent out penthouse level suites in top hotels, in part just to put them on his site. Seems like he gets permission or approval for some of his filming, and I believe tries for example to keep the camera off customers in G clubs, so I guess the clubs know he's trustworthy.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v9UoYolu-g[/url][/QUOTE]Gee, it doesn't take much to please you. Video is too dark, underexposed, too repetitive, girls look constipated, many none better than attractive girls at gogo bars. After 3 mins I could only think of one word, boring, and switched off. You must be new to the scene, move around, more exciting stuff than that can be found in Thailand, I assure you. Video guy needs to move around too, and capture more exciting stuff. Think both he and you are newbies, especially if as you suggested, he is paying big money to video that. Needs a decent camera that can capture images in low light too, by the way. Anyway, thanks, but no thanks, certainly not excellent.
What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen!
Hi guys,
I stayed in China for a while.
Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.
I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.
Sometimes cause I know Chinese.
So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.
Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.
Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.
Where to go? Any tips?
1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1273842]What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen![/QUOTE]The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.
Anyone try the high end MP's like Emmauelle or others on Thai Massage Models? Interested if the girls are remotely close to their pics.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1273842]What gets me is this global nanpa guy stays at 5 star hotels and resorts, hits the g clubs and hangs with sexy gclub / hiso girls, eats at expensive restaurants, and then shoots video in a dump like Climax where ugly girls are a dime a dozen![/QUOTE]He comes across as en excited newbie. Don't worry, he will do his money and fizzle out. Maybe Climax is an indication his money is already running out.
Next vid, Chinatown LOL
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1273641]Could you give us a report on Magic Table?[/QUOTE]I read online that their gimmick was their mirror tables, so that you could easily look up the skirt of the dancing girl. I stopped by there a few weeks ago for a beer, and found the truth was a little different.
Yes, there are mirror tables, but they are so worn and dinged up that you can't actually see any reflection. Fortunately the girls are well above you, so you just need to look upwards for your view. When I dropped by the dancing was a bit more enthusiastic and interesting than most Nana places I've ever been to. Plus one of the ladies dancing was gorgeous! Maybe an 8. MT has potential.
[QUOTE=Ivanba;1273859]The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.[/QUOTE]As far as I can tell there are very few good quality HD videos of the upscale G clubs in Bangkok nor even many decent regular videos. G clubs must simply value their customer base too much to risk exposure on the internet. I thought the Maiake video was excellent as it shot the video as if one were entering the club and had some great shots of the dancers, and of course he must have had permission. As for Sherbert, the sound quality was quite good, and I like House Music especially the first 5 minutes. To me the girls looked pretty hot, especially the one on the extreme right side of the stage, who only briefly appears within camera view 1 or 2 times for a second or two. As for the lack of videos, for example the only videos of Pegasus I've seen are basically a confused mess, obviously shot in stealth. Same with the few I've seen on other clubs.
[QUOTE=Ivanba;1273859]The videos aren't that great. Dark, no real editing, bad sound, etc. I've not been to a G-club, but from what I can see in those videos, I've seen ladies that look just as good or better at Bed. And I bet Bed is more economical too.[/QUOTE]A while back I posted about a night I had in one of the "videoed" G clubs. I will tell you that at least on that night, the place was full of some of the most attractive womenI have seen anywhere and they were a LOT of fun, really great attitudes as well. Now the down side was that there was not an expectation that they would necessarily go home with you. In fact I only saw one or two guys leave with girls. Having said that it was one of the most enjoyable evenings of entertainment I have ever had. Anywhere.
That was only my experience, but there were four of us there that night and we found ourselves the rest of the trip looking for go go bar girls that we thought could possibly work in the G club we went to that night. To be honest we didn't find many. As I said, it was one night, and one guy's opinion, but there you have it.
Just to be clear, its at 4:39 on the video that I see what I consider to be two very hot dancers, the one on the extreme right side and the dancer third closest to the right side. I'm not saying all the other girls are stunners, but I did see at least 6 or 8 others that I might describe that way.
Sky and Western are right. Certain G-Clubs, Maiake for one, have girls on the highest rung of the BKK pussy ladder. In my experience, only a couple of girls in Rainbow 4 and a few girls in the best high end soapies (example La Belle) can match the really pretty G-Club girls in looks. On the social scale, if that is of any importance to you, I think the G-Club girls are higher up (better educated and more financially secure) so they have more to offer personality wise. Shagging performance is independent of all this and depends on the particular girl no matter where you find her. There are great G-Club lovers and not so great ones like everywhere else. The downside of hunting in G-Clubs is price of course and the fact that there are no guarantees. But, if your game is on, you will most likely be able to connect with a G-Club girl and she will give you her phone number. The rest is up to you. This venue is obviously not for everybody.
[QUOTE=ChinaReise2012; 1273857]Hi guys,
I stayed in China for a while.
Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.
I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.
Sometimes cause I know Chinese.
So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.
Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.
Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.
Where to go? Any tips?
1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sorry, looks like you are too cheap to even spend sometime RTF (Read the fucking forum). On that note, I am too cheap to give you the info.
ok, so i'm back in bkk after a much too long 10 months wait, and of course i'm here to share some experiences.
i'm only been here for a day (and night) , so this is how far i went in the meantime.
my plane landed at noon, and as soon as i registered at my hotel (phachara suites. one bedroom executive expensive (3200 bath a night) but worth it and walking distance to nana) , i went to annie's for a relaxing soapie.
took number 23, that i would recommend to anyone not very familiar with soapies, as i am (had 2 in the past, one at annie's, one at nataree, that were miles away from the quality 23 provided). she's got a great technique, and will walk you through the entire experience in a great way, especially if you don't really know what you're doing. great bath (1 bbbj pop) , than a wet body slide with some more bbbj, off to the bed for one of the best oily massages i've gotten (period! even compared to "professional" massage places) and a good fuck helped by and amaziingly tight pussy. i'm not extremely used to mongering, and she made me feel comfortable at all times. she's "only" a 7 (small titts. 32. looks 25, of course) , but i would definetly recommend her.
after a short nap, off to soy cowbow (nothing special) and then nana. rainbow 4 definetly has the best looking girls, but spanky's and mandarin have the ones that appear to have the most fun on stage, which is important to me. i would tend to avoid all the ground floor bars, that are very pushy, and rather concentrate on the 1st level and some bars on the 2nd.
after almost taking a girl at mandarin (but somehow, the fact that they don't dance topless or naked made me not to) , i left for climax, which was packed and fun, but felt way too drunk and went home, talking a sw along, which i met right in front of my hotel. huge natural breast, a littly saggy but who care at 5am, right? dfk, bbbj, some positions but mostly titty fuck and cob. damage 1000 baths, which made her happy.
next morning (today) , after a few hours at the hotel pool, i decided to try dr bj: big disapointement. i've been to bj bars before ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, a couple of times) and i thought this new venue would upgrade the experience. big mistake. of the 15 girls available, the best looking one was a 5, with lots of 2 and 3s among the crowd. maybe i was there at a bad time, but if 8pm on a friday night is a bad time, i don't know what a good time would be. decided to give it a try anyway, and the bj was very average; nothing i haven't experienced before, nothing a girl not specialised in bj couldn't do. won't go back again, for sure.
i'm off to pattaya in a couple of days, hopefully i'll have more interesting things to write about!
[QUOTE=ChinaReise2012; 1273857]Hi guys, I stayed in China for a while. Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days. I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.
Sometimes cause I know Chinese. So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST. Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.
Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT. Where to go? Any tips? 1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this? Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can probably find beer bar girls that will go LT for that. Patpong 2, & Sukhumvit Soi 22 come to mind.
[QUOTE=ChinaReise2012; 1273857]Hi guys,
I stayed in China for a while.
Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.
I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.
1500 Baht LT would be great. Where to go for this?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]What is your budget for airfare, food and accomoodation?
Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.
In return, I have a few real GFE semi-pros in Rio to whom I could introduce you, although I know this is of limited value to most of the guys on the BKK board. They are all young (although quite legal), beautiful and bi, just the way I like them!
[QUOTE=Forest;1274068]Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.[/QUOTE]You know what its about. Go find your own. We aren't match makers here. Know one knows who will suit you or even if you are a psycho case (purely hypothetical so not implying nything about your character at all).
[QUOTE=ChinaReise2012; 1273857]Hi guys,
I stayed in China for a while.
Now will take a cheap flight to Bangkok for some days.
I used to pay 32 USD in China for ST.
Sometimes cause I know Chinese.
So I wanted to ask for average pricing in Bangkok for foreigners. ST.
Seems to me LT in Thailand is cheaper than in China.
Actually I want to try Thailand cause for some cheap LT.[/QUOTE]Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China. Go to Pattaya or better still Phnom Penh.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1273119]I have been very successful in hooking up with girls and one thing I learned, they LOVE to have their pussies Licked. One thing Thai Guys don't do.[/QUOTE]A small percentage of the working girls don't like it for very long, because they are liking it too much and scared they will come. ;)
[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1273904]He comes across as en excited newbie. Don't worry, he will do his money and fizzle out. Maybe Climax is an indication his money is already running out.
Next vid, Chinatown LOL[/QUOTE]Excited Newbie? I don't think so. I think the guy if anything should be commeneded for trying diverse venues. He's openly stated he believes southeast asia presents the most opportunities. Sorry to tell you, but some guys just don't run out of money.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1274051]1500 is readily available. JUST don't expect any pretty girls to take you up for 1500 though.
I hope you go for mature personality type chicks.[/QUOTE]Lots of lookers available for 1500 ST.
I am thinking of going to BKK for the second time for this New Years Eve and have a few questions.
1. How expensive is the accommodation during that period?
2. How much will it cost to get a girl for NYE for the whole night? Do the agencies charge extra for this period?
3. Is it a good idea to travel to BKK during this period? .
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder; 1274146]I am thinking of going to BKK for the second time for this New Years Eve and have a few questions.
1. How expensive is the accommodation during that period?
2. How much will it cost to get a girl for NYE for the whole night? Do the agencies charge extra for this period?
3. Is it a good idea to travel to BKK during this period? .[/QUOTE]Accomoodation: browse on hotel booking website and simulate a stay, no need of ISG for this.
LT girl for a NYE night: most likely the usual LT price, ISG gives tons of infos on prices. Account from 2000 to 4/5000bahts, sky and wallet is the limit for this. Depending where you pick up your girl from.
Agency: if you take the time to RTFF you will quickly realize going though an agency in Thailand is a waste of money, time, and the cause of missed opportunities. Visit a go-go, a soapie' a MP (you can book the for a full night from there too)! Check a FL on lower Sukhumvit, pay a visit to a bar, Thermae, Gulliver, Bangkok Beat. Here too sky is the limit. No need of a blind date through an expensive agency that will fool you with photoshopped images and a big question mark on the girl chemistry. Ma LT requires a degree of chemistry, otherwise it is just going to be a piping draining job.
Period: December is rated high season so airfare might be higher.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1274091]Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China. Go to Pattaya or better still Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Bangkok may be getting expensive, but looks like working girl inflation all over the place including Cambodia and Myamar, the later situation in part due to investors and speculators arriving looking for opportunities. Also in regard to the presidential secret service scandal in america, the argument with the "escort" in Columbia started because the agent refused to pay for what would have been equal to 24, 000 baht if it had occured in Bangkok. She wasn't that hot either.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1274091]Bangkok is not so cheap and certainly more expensive than most places in China.[/QUOTE]That's not accurate. The average place in China (big cities) that you can compare with the gogos or Nataree-Show White-Mango etc, the cost will be about 800 RMB ST which means 3900 baths. For short time not long time. One shot only. And the line-up is small, the girls aren't as beautiful and the service isn't as good. Not by a long shot.
I spend a lot of time in China, I rarely partake there. It's not worth it compared to BKK.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1274208]That's not accurate. The average place in China (big cities) that you can compare with the gogos or Nataree-Show White-Mango etc, the cost will be about 800 RMB ST which means 3900 baths. For short time not long time. One shot only. And the line-up is small, the girls aren't as beautiful and the service isn't as good. Not by a long shot.
I spend a lot of time in China, I rarely partake there. It's not worth it compared to BKK.[/QUOTE]Strangely while most writers rave about China, I agree with you. I didn't like it much. I haven't tried Macao.
Most of the BJ bar reviews have been negative. Yet the reviews keep coming. LOL Ugly girls and terrible blow jobs but the price is right. I keep telling myself I'm going to visit one of these places for a good laugh.
I think the only scenario where you'd find a pretty girl working at one of these joints is if she was fearing for her life from her crazy ex-boyfriend and needed a place to hide. He would never look here!
April 19:
Arrived to Spasso around midnight and it was very busy with plenty of choice. I chose a pretty girl in a white dress with a nice buddy and great smile (Souki). Had a few drinks with her & friends and I noticed that the drinks were very expensive (550 BHT for a glass of wine). Danced and drank till the place closed at 2pm and then went back to my hotel and cost was not discussed. When Souki undressed her body was not as nice as in the dress that was slightly disappointed but she had great personality and smile that made the difference. When undressed, she immediately commented that I was big (I am not). Showered together then DATY and BBBJ and she would not stop to let me fuck her and continued till I came.
It was now around 5am; all the sudden she said that she had to leave and was very apologetic. I was visibly upset since but since we had no discussion of money, I gave her 2000bht and let her go.
April 20:
Had a good night sleep and woke up around noon, went up to the lounge for a quick bite then went to 'Health Land' for a legitimate massage that was really good with no sex play.
Had an early dinner, a nap, then off to Soi Cowboy. I wanted to check if the girl I enjoyed last time at Tilac is still there otherwise I will continue to Baccara. I entered Tilac around 10:30 and 'Trimboli' was the first girl to greet me at the dance floor and I was ecstatic to find her since I had a duo with her last time and I really wanted to have her alone but my happiness did not last long as she refused to go back with me and kept on sending me her friends. Well it felt awful to be stood by a GoGo bar girl.
There were few nice looking girls and I know the place and the mamsan well so I decided to stick around Tilac. I was interested in 2 girls and chose the one who spoke good English and she was a knock out 9 for sure (Yead). I guess these girls really make good money from the drinks since the girl wants to continue to drink and does not want to leave; I did not mind since I also enjoyed talking and playing with the girls and coyotes. Around 2am yead asks me if I can bar-fine her younger sister (Bee) who is not nearly as attractive; I had too much to drink already so I agreed and we left around 2:45 and Trimboli did not go with anybody so my ego was intact.
I was now hungry so all 3 of us went to dinner and during dinner Yead asked Bee can come with us and just sleep. I really did not want her to come but Yead had me wrapped around her little finger so I agreed but made sure they both know that Bee is not getting paid.
Arrived to the hotel well passed 4am and both Yead and myself are somewhat drunk. 3 of us took a shower together and was slightly disappointed that Yead had silicone implants but they were so perfect that I could not tell earlier or maybe I was too drunk.
Yead and I started kissing and to my surprise Bee started BBBJ and I had to stop her because I was getting too excited. Yead kept on moaning that she was very Horney and it was confirmed by her wet pussy; went into action for 15 minutes, shot my load, and was ready to sleep. Yead and I took a shower together then back to bed and yead continued to play with my dick while moaning that she is still Horney so I requested a 69 so Yead flipped over and to my surprise, Bee went back to give me the BBBJ and not Yead. I did not ask but I am guessing that Yead does not like to give BJ that is very strange in this business. I went to work on Yead pussy, pumped very hard in all positions for about 30 minutes. She came twice but was still begging for more and I had too much alcohol to come again. Yet another shower, daylight is now seeping in and I am completely exhausted. Back to bed and Yead is still playing with my dick and now she is playing with herself but there was no way I can do anything about it so I watched till she came again and went back to sleep. The girl was a dynamo.
I woke up the girls around 1:30pm and they were surprised that they slept so long. I had taken a shower already so I asked Yead to take a shower and that's when I was attacked by Bee who claimed to be very Horney and would not take no for an answer. It was a nice morning session but I would have rather play with Yead. The girls were now in a hurry and there was no time for another session with Yead. Money was never discussed till then and I tried to give 3000bht but they complained that they both worked on me and we finally settled for 5000bht but it was a great session and I would have happily paid double this amount as yead was a Gem.
April 21:
I went to lunch and did not have time to go to 'Health Land' as planed because the girls left so late so I settled for a foot and shoulder massage at a place close to JW Marriott but again without any sex. Took another nap and wanted to go back to Tilac take yead again for dinner and disco but when I arrived neither her nor Bee had showed up to work but I was not disappointed since a good dancer (Dada) whom I missed last night as she was taken by the customer ahead of me and my experience is that good dancers are usually very good in bed. I had not have anything to eat so I only took one drink at Tilac and told Dada that we have to leave for dinner then Disco as I really wanted to enjoy her dancing. We left to dinner then to Insomnia nightclub; arrived early at the club and took a table right at the stage. I was not going to repeat last night mistake and get loaded on hard liquor so I ordered a bottle of white wine while dancing and watching Dada dance (she is not very beautiful but so sexy). Three young girls asked if they can sit with us on the table, I did not mind but had to promise Dada that no matter what happens I will go with her at the end. I started dancing and playing with the 4 girls but my attention was mainly on Dada; ordered another bottle of wine and really liked the looks of one of the girls (Nan) so I asked for her phone number and she reluctantly gave it and while writing, one of the other girls (Air) jumped in and gave me her number.
Dada now claims to be drunk and wants to go so we got a taxi and back to the hotel. Dada went into the bathroom to take a shower alone and locked the door that was fine with me. I took my shower and once I stepped out Dada was ready for me and she was a firecracker even better than I expected. Great BBBJ, fucking in all positions, I came twice in an hour which is unusual after all the drinking but I tend to fear better with wine than hard alcohol. Took my second shower and when I got out Dada was already dressed and wants to leave, I did not mind sleeping alone especially since sleeping with 2 girls the night before. Again no money was discussed earlier so I gave her 3000bht and she left.
April 22:
Woke up rested for a change; my flight leaves at 3am so I can enjoy myself till about midnight and was debating what to do. I can either go back to Tilac as I have my site set on another girl but was not sure she will be available early and I had no time or I can call one of the 2 young girls I met in Insomnia last night but there is no guarantee that there will be sex from the first meeting. I decided to call Air as she was more interested in me to chat so she will not forget me when I come back to Bangkok next time. During the conversation I asked her where she worked and she replied 'La Bell' so everything has changed and I know that sex will be on the menu so I asked her if she can come back to the hotel for dinner and sex afterward and she asked to call her back in 10 minutes. I called back and she asked for 5000bht and we settled for 3000bht.
She arrived promptly at 8pm and she is a different person, in a dress with hair do and she looked stunning. We stayed for dinner at the hotel as to save time and she was very happy and so was I. Went up to the room where she insisted on showering me and treating me like a king and I did not have to do anything. We had 2 hours long session since she was very good and not at all in hurry we both came twice and she claims that she had not come in 2 months; everything was on the menu BBBJ, sex in all position, even anal but I am not to interested. Once finished she insisted on going with me to the airport and she insist that she is my girlfriend and she shoots me at least one email per day and frankly speaking, I am puzzled how can a girl that works at 'La Belle' and gets fucked at least once a day thinks that I will be her boyfriend but I figured I will take the occasions to explore any secrets or information that 'La Belle' has so if anyone has questions please forwarded and I will ask Air.
Here is some information that I was able to get about 'La Belle' from Air:
1. The girl gets most of the money and the house only gets 1, 000bht per session.
2. Air works about 20 days per month and makes 60, 000 to 80, 000 per month.
3. The girls get tested every 2 months by 'La Bell' and receive a clean bill of health card.
4. Farang on average don't have the biggest dicks that honor belongs to 'India White' and they are very aggressive. The girl is usually out of action the next day after having one of them.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1274068]Does anyone care to share contact information on a semi-pro or an independent and very GFE pro in BKK? I am looking for someone who might want to travel with me and is fun to be with. Bisexual would be preferred, as I would like to do some mongering in BKK as well. I would, of course, contact her before I go to BKK to make certain we are compatible so no one should feel that I would hold them responsible if things don't go well. Please pm me.
In return, I have a few real GFE semi-pros in Rio to whom I could introduce you, although I know this is of limited value to most of the guys on the BKK board. They are all young (although quite legal) , beautiful and bi, just the way I like them![/QUOTE]Forest,
It is always difficult to make any recommendations as us guys tend to like different things in a Playmate!
For the sort of relationship that YOU are looking for I would suggest that you post an ad on Craigslist a few weeks before you travel.
You then have the time to make a selection (there will almost certainly be SEVERAL replies) and you can 'get to know' potential companions!
Then, when you get to BKK you can meet your selected girl (OR girls) and take it from there.
Craigslist has been good for me in Thailand and I have met some GREAT playmates. Some who I have been seeing for several years now!
Best of luck and ENJOY (I DO!)
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Samata61; 1274240]I figured I will take the occasions to explore any secrets or information that 'La Belle' has so if anyone has questions please forwarded and I will ask Air.
Here is some information that I was able to get about 'La Belle' from Air:
1. The girl gets most of the money and the house only gets 1, 000bht per session.
2. Air works about 20 days per month and makes 60, 000 to 80, 000 per month.
3. The girls get tested every 2 months by 'La Bell' and receive a clean bill of health card.
4. Farang on average don't have the biggest dicks that honor belongs to 'India White' and they are very aggressive. The girl is usually out of action the next day after having one of them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I like to see this kind of insight.
I've never been to La Belle but from reports I know it's on the priciest side of BKK. How much do clients pay for her? 60 to 80K per month doesn't sound like so much for that kind of expensive place. My "girlfriend" works in a pricey place too, she makes the same kind of money but working a lot less. 2-3 times a week so 10 days a month or so. Between what she gets from the shop and the extras at hotels (where she makes more) it doesn't take 20 days to get to those amounts.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1274219]Most of the BJ bar reviews have been negative. Yet the reviews keep coming. LOL Ugly girls and terrible blow jobs but the price is right. I keep telling myself I'm going to visit one of these places for a good laugh.
I think the only scenario where you'd find a pretty girl working at one of these joints is if she was fearing for her life from her crazy ex-boyfriend and needed a place to hide. He would never look here![/QUOTE]I would like to invite you to sample the Salon, but first have a look at our ladies from the website.
[url]http://www.bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/url]
If you decide to try it out please let me know who you are when you come in and I will buy you a beer before you go upstairs.
Regards BJ
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound; 1274184]Just back from a 3 day business trip in Bangkok, and will be returning in 3 weeks for a longer stay.
Decided to visit Dr BJ to see if it lived up to expectation, and it was nothing short of brutal. The ladies were honking, the whole setup is a joke, and the man on hand to 'advise' you is rude and obnoxious.
I didn't even take one of the baskervilles and instead opted for a visit to Mango where their service continues to please. Dr BJ is definitely not for me and I will not be going back.[/QUOTE]Judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as I can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards Dr. BJ, I wonder if the above report is true. The lack of any details whatsoever and his previous out of line rambling makes me suspect this member only wants to discredit the establishment, for whatever reason.
I hope me saying that does not result in Wolf Hound posting a reply that the admin will again have to delete "because it appeared to be a threat made towards other Forum members".
(Not that I am recommending Dr. BJ. I have never been there, but will say that Dr. BJ's posts are in general much more interesting than Wolf Hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. As far as I can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. Perhaps Wolf Hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a BJ from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?)
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1274308]Judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as I can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards Dr. BJ, I wonder if the above report is true.)[/QUOTE]I hesitate to get in the middle of a good pissing match, but I felt inclined to check out the Dr. BJ website.
It all looked fine and good, judging from the "nurse, etc." photos and all. But after jumping to the FAQs page I am a little suspicious: If that is not the very popular Chinese-American porn star Evelyn Lin and truly a member of the, er, ahem, staff, then I am jumping my booking to Bangkok up from June to, like, right now. C'mon, doc! That kind of thing is a trust-breaker.
Guys, I have been to Dr. BJ's. It was last December. The ladies in the pictures are real. My service at the time was very good and the there were some nice looking ladies there. Remember, just because you like it or don't doesn't mean a lot. We are all different. Just look at your buddies wife and ask how many of them you want to get it on with.
The place was clean and there was no leading you down the path. But again, everyone is different in what they like. So instead of bad mouthing something just say you didn't find anything that interested you. Remember, someone has seen you with something that we wouldn't touch with that 10 foot poll.
Disclaimer, I don't have anything to do with Dr BJ's except as a client when I am in town.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1274308](Not that I am recommending Dr. BJ. I have never been there, but will say that Dr. BJ's posts are in general much more interesting than Wolf Hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. As far as I can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. Perhaps Wolf Hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a BJ from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?)[/QUOTE]I've visited the same shop twice and will say that most of the ladies in the shop looked nothing like the pics on the web site, granted those pics are enhanced in an effort to lure one in. It may be that they may not have had their make up at those times. Wolf may be crass in his delivery but his ultimate message about the lack of beauty is very true. Overall, BJ bars will never have beautiful ladies and why would they? A beautiful woman is not going to suck cocks when she could make much more money doing much less (star fish) work for much more money. I still say the girls at Lollipop are the best BJ chicks in town in terms of looks and accommodations. Skilled BJ artists are an endangered species over here.
[quote=werqweq; 1274308]judging by this members previous posts, some with very negative and as far as i can see, completely unwarranted attitude towards dr. bj, i wonder if the above report is true. the lack of any details whatsoever and his previous out of line rambling makes me suspect this member only wants to discredit the establishment, for whatever reason.
i hope me saying that does not result in wolf hound posting a reply that the admin will again have to delete "because it appeared to be a threat made towards other forum members".
(not that i am recommending dr. bj. i have never been there, but will say that dr. bj's posts are in general much more interesting than wolf hound's and he does not seem rude or obnoxius. as far as i can remember from the webpages, there is some fairly attractive staff there too. perhaps wolf hound was offended because he came in expecting to get a bj from the doctor, but the doctor turned him down?) [/quote]as my post was the starting point of a dr bj debate, i want to set a few things straight, eventhough i know i wil be considered as a newbie on this forum, given my number of reports (i read more than i write, and i know that's a bad thing).
i agree that one shouldn't be expecting perfect 10's at a bj bar, because if they were, they would be working somewhere else. i'm also very ok with going for a 5 or a 6 at a bj bar, cause after all, her face and figure does not matter as much as her skills in that particular area. and i like the concept, cause you can just blow your load in a short time, without further introduction, which i like right before going out (to be more in control during the crazy bkk night to follow) or before going to bed (if i haven't found anyone special and don't want to go through all the steps linked to a sw experience).
as is wrote before, i have been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a couple of times, and it was ok.
i expected the dr bj experience to be and upgrade on the concept, and it just wasn't.
my expectations came from the fact that dr bj is very well marketed, with a great website, and a personal engagement of the dr himself on isg. it all makes you think that the guy understands us, and wants to bring the concept to a higher level.
this is where i felt fooled. aside from the dispapointing quality of the girls (about the same one as in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, if not worse. again, i was there on a friday night a 8pm, with 12-15 girls available) , of the bj itself (very average) , i was dispapointed by the setting of the venue. yes, the lobby is kind of clean and design which is a change, but you have to go trough the 1st level with girls sleeping on the floor to reach the 2nd floor where you get your bj in what i tought was a tiny and run down room with no sound protection whatsoever.
again, dr bj (i know you're reading) , i'm personally dispapointed mainly because of the over promosing marketing around that place. i see that you are planning to open several additional locations all over thailand, and i honestly wish you the best of luck. and i'm sure that the soi 7 experience will help you create the ideal bj experience you are aiming for, and that a lot of people in bkk (and on this website?) are dreaming of.
and let me finish this post by making clear that this is only my personal opinion, and that i think that every bj bar fan should make his own opinion by giving the places available a try.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1274244]Forest,
It is always difficult to make any recommendations as us guys tend to like different things in a Playmate!
For the sort of relationship that YOU are looking for I would suggest that you post an ad on Craigslist a few weeks before you travel.
You then have the time to make a selection (there will almost certainly be SEVERAL replies) and you can 'get to know' potential companions!
Then, when you get to BKK you can meet your selected girl (OR girls) and take it from there.
Craigslist has been good for me in Thailand and I have met some GREAT playmates. Some who I have been seeing for several years now!
Best of luck and ENJOY (I DO!)
Hotman.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a reasonable approach. I will try Craigslist.
I will add that you shold not feel reluctant to share contact information, as the girls are the real winners when you do this. Of course I would not blame you if your GFE were the equivalent of what I felt was a hard core pro. Chacun à son goût, as they say. I have shared contacts on many occasions, and although from time to time it clearly did not work out, it usually was good.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1274319]Overall, BJ bars will never have beautiful ladies and why would they? A beautiful woman is not going to suck cocks when she could make much more money doing much less (star fish) work for much more money.[/QUOTE]Also IME most TGs would rather starfish at bareback sex than do a BBBJ. Further, they would prefer to perform a BBBJ over DFK, LFK or any kind of kissing. I confine myself to streetwalkers, but perhaps it's different elsewhere. Are gogo, MP & beer bar workers usually up for BBFS? I'd guess those Rainbow iv girls with an attitude are not.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1274249]Thanks for this. I like to see this kind of insight.
I've never been to La Belle but from reports I know it's on the priciest side of BKK. How much do clients pay for her? 60 to 80K per month doesn't sound like so much for that kind of expensive place. My "girlfriend" works in a pricey place too, she makes the same kind of money but working a lot less. 2-3 times a week so 10 days a month or so. Between what she gets from the shop and the extras at hotels (where she makes more) it doesn't take 20 days to get to those amounts.[/QUOTE]I am not certain how much she makes per session; It is either 2200 or 3200 net without the house. She is a little girl around 155 cm so maybe she can't take a lot of pounding.
Does anyone know what all those African boys are doing here? One approached me and I just passed him, don't know wt the heck is he after! I see them all around sukm road, I noticed few african gals but boys are like 100s so it is not make since if they are pimps, are they gangs, tourists?
[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1274184]I popped my head into Livingstones but unfortunately the man himself wasn't there, as I was going to introduce myself. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was told the same thing a week ago when I went to see him. Seems he is resting a lot. Hey Giotto, come out of your room a little will you! Hahaha
[quote=dr bj; 1274264]i would like to invite you to sample the salon, but first have a look at our ladies from the website.
[url]http://www.bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/url]
if you decide to try it out please let me know who you are when you come in and i will buy you a beer before you go upstairs.
regards bj[/quote]interesting website. always was a big fan of sol and never liked [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. how does that service compare?
[QUOTE=Forest; 1274343]This sounds like a reasonable approach. I will try Craigslist.
I will add that you shold not feel reluctant to share contact information, as the girls are the real winners when you do this. Of course I would not blame you if your GFE were the equivalent of what I felt was a hard core pro. Chacun à son goût, as they say. I have shared contacts on many occasions, and although from time to time it clearly did not work out, it usually was good.[/QUOTE]You should try "Tagged" as well, I have been very successful with it.
Personally, even if I knew girls that fit what you need, I would never share their contact with you. If we were Friends and knew each other, maybe, but why would anyone share a girls contact with a dude they never met? Or don't know well?
That's my opinion.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1274565]You should try "Tagged" as well, I have been very successful with it.
Personally, even if I knew girls that fit what you need, I would never share their contact with you. If we were Friends and knew each other, maybe, but why would anyone share a girls contact with a dude they never met? Or don't know well?
That's my opinion.[/QUOTE]I completely agree; Sharing girls contact information with someone you don't know will only back fire. I've gotten few requests, consult with the girls, and they have the same opinion.
[quote=nicfrenchy;1274561]interesting website. always was a big fan of sol and never liked [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. how does that service compare?[/quote]i feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. i will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.
regards bj
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1273945]Sky and Western are right. Certain G-Clubs, Maiake for one, have girls on the highest rung of the BKK pussy ladder. In my experience, only a couple of girls in Rainbow 4 and a few girls in the best high end soapies (example La Belle) can match the really pretty G-Club girls in looks. On the social scale, if that is of any importance to you, I think the G-Club girls are higher up (better educated and more financially secure) so they have more to offer personality wise. Shagging performance is independent of all this and depends on the particular girl no matter where you find her. There are great G-Club lovers and not so great ones like everywhere else. The downside of hunting in G-Clubs is price of course and the fact that there are no guarantees. But, if your game is on, you will most likely be able to connect with a G-Club girl and she will give you her phone number. The rest is up to you. This venue is obviously not for everybody.[/QUOTE]This from 15 months ago but looks like Sherbet, and hopefully some will agree shows some some pretty hot girls, like the tall one in the middle. Yes she is skinny and I can't see her face but there is something very sexy about her.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywDQSwXbYTQ&feature=related[/url]
Ok I guess what makes her so sexy to me is two things, first she's technically in a general sense a very very good dancer and second her exceptionally interesting and sexy body movements especially her hips show a better range of motion than you typically see anywhere. They say these things are all about the female fertility cues that the male (usually) subconscious mind will pick up on. That must be it.
[QUOTE=Western787;1274636]Ok I guess what makes her so sexy to me is two things, first she's technically in a general sense a very very good dancer and second her exceptionally interesting and sexy body movements especially her hips show a better range of motion than you typically see anywhere. They say these things are all about the female fertility cues that the male (usually) subconscious mind will pick up on. That must be it.[/QUOTE]
Flailing spaghetti arms and a mixture of crappy club dancing and the Bangkok Shuffle. I've seen better at Insomnia.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1274633]I feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. I will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.
Regards BJ[/QUOTE]Bullshit answer, come on, you can't even comment on your business service levels? What, you think not commenting on other businesses will get you brownie points here?
By what I read, it looks like forum members aren't very fond of the place which is why I needed an honest answer. Now I am not sure I even want to visit the place. I guess I'll stick to SOL then.
Regards, NF
[url]http://youtu.be/kmph5wQ-2XE[/url]
Another good one for Maiake g-club.
Hello all. I am flying into BKK for a quick 1 day trip next month. I always stay in the same hotel, in Silom a few blocks from PatPong but I rarely go to PatPong at all, since I have my usual favorite places. My problem is, this time I'm arriving at my hotel around 2 AM and leaving the next afternoon. My only chance to have some fun would be between 2 and 4 that morning!
Does anyone know any places / services / anything! That might be open that late? I hate to just go and hang around patpong that late, it seems like it could be frustrating and not very satisfying. If only the Eden club were open all night!
Any recommendations appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken
What is a white indian?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1274686]Flailing spaghetti arms and a mixture of crappy club dancing and the Bangkok Shuffle. I've seen better at Insomnia.[/QUOTE]Well, as the long as the voice was (reassuringly) high in pitch I would have at least bought her a few rounds of LD's. Bangkok shuffle? You certainly must mean the other girls, because with one its definitely high end coyotee dance style. As for Insomnia, yes you may SEE certain girls, but that's all that's guaranteed, I mean its not like you're going to be in the club socializing with her the better part of an evening G club style.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1274385]I am not certain how much she makes per session; It is either 2200 or 3200 net without the house. She is a little girl around 155 cm so maybe she can't take a lot of pounding.[/QUOTE]So the average La belle girl is only typically doing 7 or 8 customers a week? I guess there must be alot of fishbowl time or hanging as a sideliner then.
[QUOTE=Western787;1274954]So the average La belle girl is only typically doing 7 or 8 customers a week? I guess there must be alot of fishbowl time or hanging as a sideliner then.[/QUOTE]I am reporting what I was told and might be incorrect but she did say that she does 1-2 customers per day and she does not go with client afterward. She is young and only been working there for 3 months.
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;1274846]What is a white indian?[/QUOTE]Someone From India dressed in a White outfit. I guess
Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? ;)
[QUOTE=Samata61;1274980]she did say that she does 1-2 customers per day and she does not go with client afterward. [/QUOTE]
It's true that there are differences in how many customers different girls do, which of course makes a difference in their income.
From what I've seen it depends on:
-a- How much the girl interacts with customers and invite them to take her. Some girls really turn the charm on, some just wait passively to be picked.
-b- How much the girl is priced.
My girl doesn't go to work so often but she will do 3 customers or more in a few hours when she does. She looks fun to be around (and she is!) and stands out in the line-up compared to most of the others. So she gets a lot more customers when she does go.
Also, she is mid-range in price. Not priced at the bottom or the top. I asked her why she didn't get upgraded as a "super-premium" girl to get more money. Her answer: it's much harder to get lots of customers per night if you are at the top. So she prefers to get a bit less per client but get more clients. That also helps her get more requests for outside work where she can make more cash.
She also confirmed that Asian clients are easier (shorter time, not much feeling) but she likes farangs because it's more fun and "spicy"...
Amazing Thailand.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1274992]Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? ;)[/QUOTE]I am, I am! But sometimes, I listen to the little "carnal" voice in me, you know, that little devil with a pitchfork. Haha
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1274704]Bullshit answer, come on, you can't even comment on your business service levels? What, you think not commenting on other businesses will get you brownie points here?
By what I read, it looks like forum members aren't very fond of the place which is why I needed an honest answer. Now I am not sure I even want to visit the place. I guess I'll stick to SOL then.
Regards, NF[/QUOTE]I respect a lot of what you say about my business and others, it is all ways honest and strait with no reasing behind it, but please be honest with this, if BJ said.
Go to me because, do not go to there because, what do you think happen next on here? It is far better just to leave it to others on forum to comment about a place. I learned that lesson with one week of posting on another forum, I think I got about 100 nasty posts back about being no professional as I talked about another place. I learned an important lesson about western culture that day.
Also at present like with any still new business, there are things that people like and do not like but for the most it is very positive at BJ's on all forums and just as important in person with the customers face to face.
BJ himself is a westerner and nice to talk to even though he has a strange accent which is hard for me to understand sometimes. Come in talk with him, he will help and make sure you have a great time at BJ's which of course is what we all want to happen including you.
I hope that make sense.
Taken from BJ's site.
Some of the many business class extra's we are offer to the industry:
The patented 'Rotated Salon Booth System'
Dr BJ's Salon Bangkok is the home of the R. S. B. S.
No frozen alcohol infused, dry my manhood to death, whilst freezing it with a towel in a packet service:
Dr BJ's salon Sukhumvit (BJ Bar) is also the home of the Soapy Bubble Clean Sack Service. S. B. C. S. S.
We strive to have a minimum 30 staff in one shift and a 2 rotating shift system, you can be sure of finding the right member of staff for your time with us.
Fully stocked clean bar, well lit bright surroundings, Perfect location. 30 second walking distance of Nana BTS and the same side of the Sukhumvit road to Soi cowboy, which can be walked to within 10 minutes. Our bar area is very clean and bright, in case you wish to spend a little time with one of our staff before heading to the service areas, an outside smoking area, private bar zone, area for viewing staff and much much more. All staff wear designated clothing, to show there level. Our BJ Bar carries 2 levels of staff.
Nurses and Consultants, which are easy to differentiate by the clothing they wear.
All customers as part of the in house price, will receive, standard BJ bar services, along with it taking place within a private area, not a curtained off sofa. This private comes with quality lighting, seating, air con, washing facilities and of course one of our ladies. If you wish to take more than one lady, then pricing of course is x2 for two ladies and x3 for three ladies etc.
For the customer that does not want to be seen walking in the front entrance, we also have a real entrance vie soi 9. Please call us and we will let you in the quite back passage.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1274633]I feel it would be unprofessional for me to comment on a competitors business. I will leave it to the other forum member's to respond.
Regards BJ[/QUOTE]Not trying to start a war here. BUT, if you're going to advertise on this thread, then you should be prepared to answer questions. Or move your comments to the classified ad thread [or better yet, Annies thread -- given her comments below].
[quote=aey annies;1275016]i respect a lot of what you say about my business and others, it is all ways honest and strait with no reasing behind it, but please be honest with this, if bj said.[/quote]hi aey,
thank you for the honest answer.
i did not expect drbj to trash other businesses but just point out why his place was better, that's all.
i also run a business and i never bad mouth my competition but i sure am telling my customers why they should buy from me instead of others.
in the area, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is a hopeless place and you of all people should know the scams the mamasan runs there to keep the girls trapped working there.
wild country (not really a bj place but offered quite a different vibe and bj available at the bar) , afterschool's naughty boy corner is not what it used to be. so there is a gap in the market, you and drbj saw that and i guess that is how the place was created.
good luck with the place.
by the way. how is #3 at annies? i am thinking about trying her.
[QUOTE=Aey Annies;1275016]BJ himself is a westerner and nice to talk to even though he has a strange accent which is hard for me to understand sometimes. Come in talk with him, he will help and make sure you have a great time at BJ's which of course is what we all want to happen including you.[/QUOTE]I usually avoid going to places using my ISG name as I don't want to get any special treatment. My reviews are always non Biased and as Honest as possible.
Obviously, having been here a long time, places know me and some even know my ISG name but I try to stay under the Radar.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1275063]the Scams the Mamasan runs there to keep the girls trapped working there.[/QUOTE]Really? Can you explain?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1275063]By the Way. How is #3 at Annies? I am thinking about trying her.[/QUOTE]We try to keep the reviews on the website as close as we can to what is said to us in person or what we read on forums. I can tell you that from what I have seen and reading, she is very good fun, a good sign of a lady offering what customers want is they walk out from the room with her and ask to book her for another day or for a take out. This happens a lot, I would like to say as well, she may have many people liking her not for her service but her chest, it is hard for any man to talk to her face, it is funny.
I would put her not in the low end of service 'no way' but not in the top either. If you want big natural perfect shaped lady chest, and good fun lady with nice smile, that enjoys her work, I would recommend her, if you want a lady to make your head fall off with things that only a women that has been working for 7 years with 10 customer a day, this is not her.
Welcome back to Bangkok, I not see you on forum for a long long time, I hope your break from Thailand made you like it more.
Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.
Best places visited on my last trip.
Baccara.
Tilac.
Annies.
The Bank.
Rainbow 4.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1275098]Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.[/QUOTE]I'd stay clear of any types associated with organized crime or pimping, such as also often found with Russians. Seek out FL independant sex workers, instead.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1274992]Frenchy, why are you such a big fan of SOL? I thought you were a man of means and refined taste? .
It's true that there are differences in how many customers different girls do, which of course makes a difference in their income.
From what I've seen it depends on:
-a- How much the girl interacts with customers and invite them to take her. Some girls really turn the charm on, some just wait passively to be picked.
-be- How much the girl is priced.
My girl doesn't go to work so often but she will do 3 customers or more in a few hours when she does. She looks fun to be around (and she is!) and stands out in the line-up compared to most of the others. So she gets a lot more customers when she does go.
Also, she is mid-range in price. Not priced at the bottom or the top. I asked her why she didn't get upgraded as a "super-premium" girl to get more money. Her answer: it's much harder to get lots of customers per night if you are at the top. So she prefers to get a bit less per client but get more clients. That also helps her get more requests for outside work where she can make more cash.
She also confirmed that Asian clients are easier (shorter time, not much feeling) but she likes farangs because it's more fun and "spicy".
Amazing Thailand.[/QUOTE]Love this form. No place for error.
I went back and ran the math by my girl and you guys are correct; I guess she was trying to hide how many customers she fucks since she considers herself my girlfriend (go figure)
Anyway, she does 3+customers per day and makes 6000 to 8000 bht per day. She claims I understood her English wrong with 60-80k per month and she meant 6-8K per day.
I don't think I will keep her on the leach too long so any other questions?
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1275098]Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.[/QUOTE]Have had several. Did not part with more than 600b to 1000b ST, all in Bangkok. Attitudes are a mix, overall results been worthwhile. However, in future if I am to play again whilst in Thailand, she is really going to make a significant impression upon me. I find them spoilt for price, way cheaper in Africa. Punters must be paying however, I will leave African mongering to my home trips in future.
Mc Don, check out:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand[/url]
[QUOTE=Aey Annies;1275092]Welcome back to Bangkok, I not see you on forum for a long long time, I hope your break from Thailand made you like it more.[/QUOTE]Nah nah, AA! Self imposed exile was fruitful for all. Word is, He being turned away from the Secret Society Of Disillusioned Mongers. Now the virus is back LOL.
Perhaps I will make a turn next month. X looks the choice.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1275098]Has anyone tried the african girls? How much do they charge? Are they after ST only? I have been approached in the past but never bothered with them but I am now thinking about it just to break the monothony.[/QUOTE]From what has been written here, not much recommended for lack of service, attitude and general safety. Not generalizing, but I prefer to stay away, although some stunners are visible. Most of them represent the answer to those looking for a big booty.