Monterrey

[QUOTE=Unspongebob; 1072636]No worry El Cabron 007. She's a he. He can visit El Infinito and not worry about it. Besides, all that he posts about Monterrey, and about "me," is bogus bullshit. So, no matter what he makes up to post, there are never any real details, which even further reveals he is not knowledgeable about Monterrey, or about me. He certainly doesn't know anything about El Infinito or he would have known that simple fact you so eloquently pointed out El Cabron. WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED.

Here is what has been going on everyone. The poster that likes masquerading as a female believes he knows "ME." He believes he can fuck me in the forum by posting with screen names that he believes relate to my true identity.

At first, I was concerned that he was posting the name I've always used as an alias in Monterrey, and frankly, all over the world. After all, I've been meeting people in Monterrey, and in other venues, using my alias for years. I remember when I first used the screen name. I just picked the name from the past. Then, I just stuck with it. It was easy to remember.

I never actually dreamed that my alias would ever be revealed in the forum. Frankly, I always used my alias because I feared the girls, and what they might try. I always expected it of the girls. I am, frankly, shocked that a fellow monger would stoop so low. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But, the reality is, what's in a name, verdad? That's the purpose of an alias. When you've been at this as long as I have, you learn to take precautions. But, that isn't how my stalker got the name of the alias. He got the name of the alias directly from me via internet correspondence, and he has spread it around to a very few number of our other detractors, most of which do not respect the opinions of others, and just can't behave with any proper cyber etiquette.

He wouldn't know me if I walked up behind him and tapped him on the shoulder, or worse. The poster that likes masquerading as a women in the forum, using names that relate to my alias, etc. Lets just say he is inextricably linked now to what is going on in the life of my alias by his own hand. Lets just say suspicion upon the actual perpetrators has been diverted, and the more our Mastermind involves himself with the evidence, the deeper he implicates himself in life's consequences outside this forum.

But, he has caused me to change my alias. I have now adopted a new alias, mostly because I don't want to be inextricably linked to a real person whose real life might cost me my own freedom through association.

I've stayed silent long enough. He thinks he's some kind of "Mastermind." But, were I him, I would think twice about linking myself to a real person I know nothing about. Notice, I said "person, ' and not "name." What's in a name?

I know my nemesis' name, I know his personal details, I know who he freelances with, I know his legitimate cyberlife, I know his profession. I don't desire to "spar" with him in the "ring," or react to his taunting. That's why I have ignored him up to now.

Enough said, back to the purpose of the forum, and lets stop the nonsense, trying to fuck each other just because our egos can't tolerate the opinions of others, or their contribution within this forum.[/QUOTE]I'm serious the fact you need profesional help. One of the girls in infinito say to us that sometime the girls see you talking when nobody else around you. That maybe you talk with one of you various personality when you alone at the table.

[QUOTE=Larbo; 1162959]I am in Monterrey at least once a month, for at least three days at a time, but usually for a week at a time. I feel no different from a safety perspective now than I did six or eight years ago. I have no experience regarding driving or bussing across the border, as I always fly in. I do have a lot of experience in Zona Centro, mostly early in the evening, as I tend to get my selection done early and retire with her to my hotel.

I will be in Monterrey again next Wed. And Thursday, and flying back Friday. This is my second trip this month. On these shorter trips I usually rely on call-ins of a favorita or two. But, if Mother Nature or some other circumstance should intervene, I will go on down to Infinito's and report on my perception of personal safety both there and the Zona Centro in general. No promises, my favoritas come first, but I will try to do my part to lay this safety crap to rest. [/QUOTE]Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here.

[QUOTE=El Cazador;1162994]I'm serious the fact you need profesional help. One of the girls in infinito say to us that sometime the girls see you talking when nobody else around you. That maybe you talk with one of you various personality when you alone at the table.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do. Need to be seen by a professional that is...

Know of a good accountant in Monterrey? me recommenda?

Funny, the girls say I "sit" in El Infinito, uhhhh? Not that I really believe you have even been there. But, for the sake of argument...I guess you mustered some courage to go down in the lion's den. I thought you said it was just toooooooo dangerous for any sane person to go there? Uhmmm, more BS...

I no longer spend considerable amounts of time in El Infinito anyway...actually, almost no time. I walk through, and out. I simply have no interest in spending much time in these kinds of joints these days. I am there for one purpose, and one purpose only. I am looking for girls I can see on the side, away from their jobs, and really couldn't care less about sitting with them, talking to them at their tables, groping at them from the stage, etc...

I am not even satisfied groping them in the privados. I am a hardened monger, and have graduated to the hard stuff, the top end...the sitting in a cum infested cubicle doesn't particularly appeal to me much any more...

But, of course, I understand the attraction for most that like partaking in the privados. It's just that I am a hard core monger these days, and am only satisfied with my own control of all scenarios. That's why you won't often find me lingering in the bars. I don't have to linger. I have endless time to spend working the girls individually on a very gradual basis, outside the clubs now. Oh, sure, I find them initially in the clubs. But, I don't waste my time on them there, throwing money at them there.

Furthermore, I do not stalk my fellow mongers, nor am I obsessed with their activities, nor do I strive to disclose their personal details to the world in order to get off like some people I know.

[QUOTE=Larbo; 1162959]I am in Monterrey at least once a month, for at least three days at a time, but usually for a week at a time. I feel no different from a safety perspective now than I did six or eight years ago. I have no experience regarding driving or bussing across the border, as I always fly in. I do have a lot of experience in Zona Centro, mostly early in the evening, as I tend to get my selection done early and retire with her to my hotel.

I will be in Monterrey again next Wed. And Thursday, and flying back Friday. This is my second trip this month. On these shorter trips I usually rely on call-ins of a favorita or two. But, if Mother Nature or some other circumstance should intervene, I will go on down to Infinito's and report on my perception of personal safety both there and the Zona Centro in general. No promises, my favoritas come first, but I will try to do my part to lay this safety crap to rest. [/QUOTE]

Larbo is totally and completely correct. But, Larbo, he's just going to think we are one in the same guy. We know differently, but he has an agenda to discredit anybody that comments with any actual knowledge about the mongering scene in Monterrey.

I keep telling everyone he has a different kind of agenda. Seriously, don't say too much, report in generalities, or make up some stuff like names, and places, etc...to protect the "innocent."

He has but one agenda with respect to mongers, and we are all in his sights. Just a word to the wise...

I don't know what the fuss is about. I think that unspongebob's reports are accurate for the most part.

I come to Mty for 7-10 days every month for the past 12 years or so. I first started mongering by getting the cabs to take me where they thought the most action was at. While he took me to Casa Blanca which is an interesting place especially 6. 12 years ago. Now it's pretty quiet. Now I spent at least 2 or 3 times a visit at El infinito or Tangalay. I may be a bit more cautious than before but I have not slowed down. I go a lot of the different SC's, a few MP's and a few dance clubs. Unlike Larbo, I do not spend much time in Centro but more along Madero and Colon area and the area around infinito but have seen little difference from years ago. I have never had any problems and I go out every nite unless I need some catch up sleep.

Does any know the link for the map with the location of most of the MP's and SC's. There was one which is a little outdated but still pretty good for a lot of the better clubs. I have some friends going to Mty and I think that the easiest for them to find their way around.

[QUOTE=El Cazador; 1163175]Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here. [/QUOTE]Nobody has disputed that Mexico has problems. When we first started this discussion, well over a year and a half ago, things had not escalated to the point of there being the dangers there are now to the average Mexicano living in Mexican culture and society.

It isn't a matter of what might be dangerous for the average Mexicano. You think that I wrote things about your culture to insult you? I wrote them to illustrate that for the average Mexicano living in Monterrey the dangers are much more acute than for the average visitor.

The average visitor that spends a few days doesn't feel, and will NEVER feel the effects of your dangerous culture upon you and your amigos.

This cuts to the heart of my comments to DadFun555 about who consults the ISG Monterrey section for advice. It was not historically Mexicanos that consulted ISG over the last ten years, it was Gringos, and visitors from other parts of the world. It was not primarily Mexicanos. It is still not primarily Mexicanos by a huge margin.

The average visitor that chooses to visit El Infinito, or one of the other bars, should not be warned that it will be "LIKELY" that they will be victimized by the present condition in Mexican society. It simply isn't true. As a visitor of only a few days to Monterrey, which most of them are, does NOT have a statistical likelihood that they will be victimized by the condition of your culture and society.

You're used to commenting to an audience of primarily Mexican Nationals on Mexican blogs concerning Mexican issues, dangers, etc. The members that consult with ISG-Monterrey are by an overwhelming majority Gringos from the US, or other Visitors to Monterrey from other foreign countries.

Addressing them as you do, under the same assumption as you address your countrymen on a Mexican blog or website, the content and validity of your commentary is totally lost. But, more importantly, your commentary is NOT accurate for the majority of readers, not because it isn't true for Mexicanos living in Monterrey, but because it isn't true for foreign visitors to Monterrey.

A readership pool comprised of potential "Visitors" to Monterrey, and not of Mexican Nationals living through the dangers in Monterrey, are two entirely different audiences with two entirely different concerns, and two entirely different sets of vulnerabilities.

If you want to offer a service to the mongering community, offer suggestions on how to be a little more careful while they're here, acknowledging that they are in Monterrey under an entirely different scenario than the average Mexicano that lives here. Give them some usable advice to help them have a nice time, rather than fear mongering advice.

Most of the guys coming to Monterrey are here to work, they're here only for a few days, then they're off back to where they came from. The dangers for them are just not quantifiable like they are for your amigos on the other Mexican blogs and local Mexican, Spanish speaking, websites you undoubtedly comment upon.

You're warning an audience whose potential for being victimized is almost non-existent. People can warn others to watch out, be a little more careful, etc. And that's wise advice. But, to completely recommend that nobody visit Mexico, and to base their likelihood for being victimized upon the same likelihood that Native Regios might possibly experience, is a misguided objective at the least, and a complete and total misrepresentation and dis-service to the mongering community on the ISG-Monterrey Section at the most.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob;1162816]I say that ISG-Monterrey Section is primarily comprised of Gringos, many of which live in Texas, frequent Nuevo Laredo, and occasionally visit Monterrey, and also comprised of primarily Gringos that fly in occasionally from other States, mostly for work, and usually for just a few days at a time at most. Most never get the opportunity to return. There is an occasional visit to the ISG-Monterrey Section from mongers living in California and Arizona who like to comment on the differences between the two venues.[/QUOTE]I still don't believe this is true. If you look at the posting histories of others who post in Monterrey, there is nothing to indicate they are from US. If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested. I would like to see numbers supporting your assertion. Many of them have posting history from places far away and they are in Monterrey on business, I see no evidence this is a US centric site (when I say "site", I mean the whole thing. Not just the Monterrey topic). I doubt anybody who lives in Texas and goes to Nuevo Laredo goes to Monterrey. Maybe back in 2009 or so but not anymore due to the violence. I stand by assertion this is international site and not US centric.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob]Well, the fanny pack thing isn't accurate at all..It's a "European Man Bag,"...along with my ruby slippers and my "Manzier," or "Bro", depending on whom is having a sale. Bet you don't even get that one, but all the Gringos will.[/QUOTE]Right. Everybody outside of the states is just a giant bunch of uncultured ignoramuses who have never heard of Seinfeld. On the reports, I guess your damned if you do, damned if you don't. SpongeBob says Monterrey is too dangerous to post detailed reports. If you post reports you are a naive fool who doesn't know what dangers await you from narcoterrorists lurking in the shadows. If you don't post reports you are an alter ego of one of SpongeBob's numerous nemeses over the past decade and you don't actually monger in Monterrey.

I heard "G" girl from "I" club just arrived back into town after lengthy absence. Try as she may I wouldn't recommend letting her barebacking you. Insist on wrapping it. Trust me, you don't want to catch SpongeBob disease.

I will totally agree with el Cazador to the fact that the Monterrey of today is nowhere close to the Monterrey of not just 6 years, make it 3.

In many of his points el Cazador is dead on, specially Barrio Antiguo that simply just died from one day to another and it's lost with no possibility of damage control or nothing.

Yes, it has become a very violent city, but to mongers coming to Monterrey for a couple of days. They might not even notice. Not even if they go to the Madero-Villagran area, where Pax Romana, peace by the force, has been imposed.

That is a hard fact. When you are not involved in the day by day matters of the city, you just won't notice.

But anyway, Monterrey is still far away from the likes of Tijuana or Nuevo Laredo where mongers are hasseled 24/7 by police or dangers really lurk in every shadow of the streets.
I've read the threads and I've talked to mongers and are those cities really dangerous to mongers...

[QUOTE=El Cazador; 1163175]Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dad Fun 555;1163601]I still don't believe this is true[/QUOTE]

ISG-Monterrey was the subject of our discussion, not the entire world. Believe whatever you want to...makes no difference to me what you believe.

I can tell you that of the guys that actually do come to Monterrey, I have personally met and assisted large numbers of them on the ground here. So, of the guys that actually do make it Monterrey, and contact me for assistance, an overwhelming number of them have been Gringos.

Like I said, what Mexicano needs ISG-Monterrey?

[QUOTE=Dad Fun 555;1163612]SpongeBob says Monterrey is too dangerous to post detailed reports[/QUOTE]

Oh, very good, you got the Seinfeld reference...Mexicanos do not generally appreciate the decidedly American cultural humor of Seinfeld. I've found that most Mexicanos are unfamliar with Seinfeld, and that's because the humor of Seinfeld is lost on them. It has not been terribly popular with the working classes. They don't really get where we Gringos are coming from sometimes, and the humor isn't Mexican humor.

That's why I said that he would not get it, not because he couldn't understand it, but more because it was quite likely that he would not relate to the inside jokes unless he actively engaged in watching the show, which most working class Mexicanos do NOT. Maybe it's something lost in the translation. Because, most people in Monterrey do not speak English, and the show, when it is aired in Monterrey, is sometimes, and sometime not, translated into Spanish. Something is really lost in translation with respect to jokes.

And, you're putting words in my mouth...To reiterate,

I did not say that Monterrey is too dangerous to post reports. I said there are too many assholes on ISG for members to report too many details.

I recommended that members remain relatively aloof about their activities, lest they be stalked, and attempts made to out them. Your comments, goals, and objectives, where I'm concerned, prove my point in spades...

And, while you might believe you're an island yourself, and that somehow your own comments won't reveal details about your own circumstances, the more you comment, unless you are very careful, the closer you come to your own activities being revealed by some future assholes that have some unprovoked axe to grind against you some day.

Unfortunately, assumptions made by you concerning my own activities are based on very ancient history, obtained from informants that are recollecting the distant past, their representing my past exploits at El Infinito as my current range of activities. And, to a certain extent, your comments already have revealed certain suspicions I have about your actual identity that might just surprise you.

After 10 years, you can rest assured I have spies everywhere in the bars of Monterrey, even El Infinito. So, you see, while you're warning me about the "dangers" of my supposed visibility, you're are equally visible, and equally obvious to my own spies that anticipate you in advance. How easy it is to feed them full of unadulterated BS when someone comes looking for the "Cookie Man."

They, meaning your informants, long to delight their taste buds, and they can't forget me, no matter how hard they try. Their loyalty is to me. Well, someday soon, I guess I should bring them some delectable treats in compensation. Unfortunately, my source for what they crave no longer exists. They will be very disappointed indeed. It's Licorice and chocolates for now. But, I do have another delectable treat that is exclusively my own, something that I have never disclosed here, and will never disclose...and you know why.

Unfortunately for you, and your obvious agenda, I will never disclose my present day activities, and haven't done so in quite a long, long time on ISG, on account of what I call the ASSHOLE factor. So, keep on guessing...

But, when ISG members wonder why we have such a pissing contest here in the ISG-Monterrey, and why there is very little actually posted about our exploits, they will understand what limits our being candid with details. Some on here can not have a friendly disagreement of philosophies without making it personal.

[QUOTE=Monterreydude; 1163656]I will totally agree with el Cazador to the fact that the Monterrey of today is nowhere close to the Monterrey of not just 6 years, make it 3.

In many of his points el Cazador is dead on, specially Barrio Antiguo that simply just died from one day to another and it's lost with no possibility of damage control or nothing.

Yes, it has become a very violent city, but to mongers coming to Monterrey for a couple of days. They might not even notice. Not even if they go to the Madero-Villagran area, where Pax Romana, peace by the force, has been imposed.

That is a hard fact. When you are not involved in the day by day matters of the city, you just won't notice.

But anyway, Monterrey is still far away from the likes of Tijuana or Nuevo Laredo where mongers are hasseled 24/7 by police or dangers really lurk in every shadow of the streets.

I've read the threads and I've talked to mongers and are those cities really dangerous to mongers. [/QUOTE]Is funny when the unspongebob make the fight with me and others last year with his multiknicks challenging the dangers in monterrey when you and I who live here know better. Sometimes I read this foolish gringo think he know more about monterrey that even you. It annoy me and maybe you as this foolish gringo does not know anyone here in monterey to make such foolish words. He sure does not know a bar owner that have the good club in barrio antiguo that has to leave monterrey last year for texas after he not pay the cartel and they beat one of his employees and treaten his family and kidnapp the son. Or a owner of a liqour store who must sell the business in santa catarina when he is beaten by the cartel. Or my friends friend who is beaten in the daytime after he not pay the cartel and he spend three week in the hospital and lose half the eye, ear and have the broken bones and almost lose the life. No, this foolish gringo only open his mouth and know everything when he should listen than talk. He rather argue with everyone that don't agree with him and attack with all his multiknicks.

I don't say this last year but the girls at the infinito all laugh for long time when I say the spongebob cookie man maybe look like richard gere or sean connery as he brag on this foro how all the girls love him.

The say he appear more like the homer simpson.

[QUOTE=Unspongebob; 1163763]Oh, very good, you got the Seinfeld reference. Mexicanos do not generally appreciate the decidedly American cultural humor of Seinfeld. I've found that most Mexicanos are unfamliar with Seinfeld, and that's because the humor of Seinfeld is lost on them. It has not been terribly popular with the working classes. They don't really get where we Gringos are coming from sometimes, and the humor isn't Mexican humor.

That's why I said that he would not get it, not because he couldn't understand it, but more because it was quite likely that he would not relate to the inside jokes unless he actively engaged in watching the show, which most working class Mexicanos do NOT. Maybe it's something lost in the translation. Because, most people in Monterrey do not speak English, and the show, when it is aired in Monterrey, is sometimes, and sometime not, translated into Spanish. Something is really lost in translation with respect to jokes.

And, you're putting words in my mouth. To reiterate,

I did not say that Monterrey is too dangerous to post reports. I said there are too many assholes on ISG for members to report too many details.

I recommended that members remain relatively aloof about their activities, lest they be stalked, and attempts made to out them. Your comments, goals, and objectives, where I'm concerned, prove my point in spades.

And, while you might believe you're an island yourself, and that somehow your own comments won't reveal details about your own circumstances, the more you comment, unless you are very careful, the closer you come to your own activities being revealed by some future assholes that have some unprovoked axe to grind against you some day.

Unfortunately, assumptions made by you concerning my own activities are based on very ancient history, obtained from informants that are recollecting the distant past, their representing my past exploits at El Infinito as my current range of activities. And, to a certain extent, your comments already have revealed certain suspicions I have about your actual identity that might just surprise you.

After 10 years, you can rest assured I have spies everywhere in the bars of Monterrey, even El Infinito. So, you see, while you're warning me about the "dangers" of my supposed visibility, you're are equally visible, and equally obvious to my own spies that anticipate you in advance. How easy it is to feed them full of unadulterated BS when someone comes looking for the "Cookie Man."

They, meaning your informants, long to delight their taste buds, and they can't forget me, no matter how hard they try. Their loyalty is to me. Well, someday soon, I guess I should bring them some delectable treats in compensation. Unfortunately, my source for what they crave no longer exists. They will be very disappointed indeed. It's Licorice and chocolates for now. But, I do have another delectable treat that is exclusively my own, something that I have never disclosed here, and will never disclose. And you know why.

Unfortunately for you, and your obvious agenda, I will never disclose my present day activities, and haven't done so in quite a long, long time on ISG, on account of what I call the ASSHOLE factor. So, keep on guessing.

But, when ISG members wonder why we have such a pissing contest here in the ISG-Monterrey, and why there is very little actually posted about our exploits, they will understand what limits our being candid with details. Some on here can not have a friendly disagreement of philosophies without making it personal.[/QUOTE]You say that you are to be stalked and that you have spies.

And that you have suspicions of sombodys actual identity?

And that you have informants with your spies?

And you give your spies and informants chocolates and licorice for compensation?

All this drama and stalking and creating multinicks in your life for this monterrey sex foro? Are you for real?

You need help with the voices in your head. You have serious problems that need more than medicine.

Does anyone have the link to the map of the MP's, SC's and some of the hotels that I think that Amigomio once posted. I remember it as a google map but I haven't used it for a while and seem to have lost the link. Can anyone help.

Jesus fooking Christo. This pissing contest has gone way beyond the purpose of this forum. Tell us where the girls are, tell us where to find the best bang for the buck. Keep the posts on topic or STFU. We read enough in the news media to form our own opinions about the safety, or lack there of. Girls man, girls, that's why we go, so let's stick to that, OK? I feel for those that go and spend the amounts they would spend in the US, but it is what it is, and let it be that. Some guys venture with an almost unlimited budget, it is what it is. Personally I can't see paying more than 400 pesos for good pussy, and believe me, there are many, many, girls you can get for that. If a guy wants to spend more it's his option, fine go for it. But tell the truth, tell us where it's at. There will always be the high rollers that ruin it for everyone else, nothing you can do about that, it is what it is. I see truckers that come to Nuevo Laredo with hundreds or even thousands to spend in a weekend, girls flock to them. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off? Yes, but what can I do? It is what it is and that's what it is.