Berlin

[QUOTE=Altered Ego;1110599](Note: may I just state for the record that I have read the Forum before posting this to try to find the answer myself, including searching the Reports of Distinction as far back as 2007!)[/QUOTE]The reason you can not find much is that there isn't much, other than the places you mention, with the parameters you describe. And yes, lap dances are expensive. Berlin is not really the place to come for the activities you seem to want and keeping your image with your work colleagues in tact. There are a few other bars where you can take girls to a room but they are generally nasty, high pressure places where you will be asked to buy expensive bottles of champagne by the girls. I mention them in my club report from a couple or so years back. Summer 2009 I think, or 2008.

You can also check my blog, linked below, The Berlin Scene.

AM

The German forum reports that the prices have risen significantly at the local apartment bordello Mon Rouge. The report I read says that a half hour session has risen to €100 plus extras, putting it as the most expensive bordello in Berlin currently. Sorry I do not have full info and this is based on one report. Maybe one of our regular members has some more info. Kimino-you were planning an upcoming visit weren't you? Might be best to give them a call and clarify this before going. Don't want to get any nasty surprises.

Predictably nobody is very pleased with this over on the German forum. We will see if, or how long, the new rates last. Unless other apartments follow suit I can not see it staying this way. But who knows, maybe the Berlin scene is due for a price hike?

AM

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1110599]So are there any other places in Berlin where you can have a couple of beers, watch naked (or semi-naked) women, possibly chat to them, possibly take them to a side room. Or even back to your hotel. In a fairly relaxed atmosphere without too much pressure to partake, and where you don't have to change into a robe (or walk around naked!) in front of a group of men you've never met before?[/QUOTE]Cafe Pssst.

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de/[/url]

As I remember it matches your requirements, though I haven't been there for years and so don't know the current set up. It has a pub atmosphere and it does get pretty full with business men so I would advise going early if you want to get a seat and don't like too much cigarette smoke.

[QUOTE=Eddy Berlin; 1110886]Cafe Pssst.

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de/[/url]

As I remember it matches your requirements, though I haven't been there for years and so don't know the current set up. It has a pub atmosphere and it does get pretty full with business men so I would advise going early if you want to get a seat and don't like too much cigarette smoke. [/QUOTE]True this is a Berlin mainstay but it gets almost universally bad reviews if it is reviewed at all. There is not much out there about the place. As far as I can understand it, it is a freelancer club. That is the ladies there pick up business men and take them upstairs for some fun and pay the house their cut. Sounds like a good set up but it does not seem to work. The ladies generally seem to be older and service spotty. It could be an option but not one that I would strongly recommend.

On the other hand-we could use a report from here so if you feel like taking one for the team.

Another untested option would be Candy's Paradise.

[url]http://rotlichtadressen.de/Setcards/candys/index.html[/url]

It is a bit out of the way in the east part of Berlin and again, untested. Reports on the German boards seem to suggest that they have trouble finding/keeping girls and the place is often staffed by only a couple of girls. I report would be nice from this place but if your reputation with your colleagues depends upon it, this place would be a long shot. I have no idea about pricing but you do not pay to get in the door.

There is also Chateau, but my experience there was grim and I actually had to flee the place, after spending €10 on a bottle of Heineken, as I was being pressured into spending €200 in a bottle of champagne just to sit. Not on my personal list of recommendations but hey, it is close to the action.

[url]http://www.chateau22.de/[/url]



AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1110871]Kimino-you were planning an upcoming visit weren't you? Might be best to give them a call and clarify this before going. Don't want to get any nasty surprises.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up Angus!

Yes I'll be there 1 and 2 of February, and was actually planning to visit a couple of places before reaching Artemis.

Mon rouge was definitely in the list.

I'll check before going, and diligently file a report, if I get some info.

All the best.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1110859]Your other, cheaper and sleazier, option is a sex kino. Here you will pay entrance (usually 5-6 Euro) but will pay just for a CBJ, around 30 Euros. While the kino option sound cheaper I have experienced that the level of service is spotty.

[/QUOTE]I agree on the spotty service. However, I did enjoy myself a couple of times about a year ago at Tinas Sexkino in Charlottenburg:

[url]http://www.tinas-oase.de/[/url]

One nice thing was the low-low prices, €6 entry, €10 CBJs and €15 quickies (!). The service was sometimes as good as what you get for €30-40 in the laufhauses.

Just wanted to say thanks for the informative replies from Angus and Eddy. You have confirmed my susplcion that Berlin may not be the best place for the kind of 'vanilla' experiences I'm thinking about (although clearly there are many other interesting diversions!).

If and when I do visit (which now looks like it won't happen until April at the earliest) I will make sure I post a report here.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1110930]True this is a Berlin mainstay but it gets almost universally bad reviews if it is reviewed at all. There is not much out there about the place. As far as I can understand it, it is a freelancer club. That is the ladies there pick up business men and take them upstairs for some fun and pay the house their cut. Sounds like a good set up but it does not seem to work. The ladies generally seem to be older and service spotty. It could be an option but not one that I would strongly recommend.

On the other hand-we could use a report from here so if you feel like taking one for the team.

Another untested option would be Candy's Paradise.

[url]http://rotlichtadressen.de/Setcards/candys/index.html[/url]

It is a bit out of the way in the east part of Berlin and again, untested. Reports on the German boards seem to suggest that they have trouble finding / keeping girls and the place is often staffed by only a couple of girls. I report would be nice from this place but if your reputation with your colleagues depends upon it, this place would be a long shot. I have no idea about pricing but you do not pay to get in the door.

There is also Chateau, but my experience there was grim and I actually had to flee the place, after spending €10 on a bottle of Heineken, as I was being pressured into spending €200 in a bottle of champagne just to sit. Not on my personal list of recommendations but hey, it is close to the action.

[url]http://www.chateau22.de/[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1111012]Just wanted to say thanks for the informative replies from Angus and Eddy. You have confirmed my susplcion that Berlin may not be the best place for the kind of 'vanilla' experiences I'm thinking about (although clearly there are many other interesting diversions!).

If and when I do visit (which now looks like it won't happen until April at the earliest) I will make sure I post a report here. [/QUOTE]Another "vanilla" experience would be to observe the goings-on on OranienburgerStrasse in the late evening.

It's worth having a beer in the locality and then slipping out to see the get-up of the "ladies" and their attempts to "snare a customer".

Hard to say for sure about Cafe Pssst.

Certainly you won't find any naked ladies there but it's interesting to see the interaction between the ladies and visitors.

Been there but haven't participated in the action.

However, I have a hunch it could be good if you take your time, have a good look round and interview a few likely candidates.

VG.

My friend and I visited Berlin in early November. We just wanted to thank the people that added their experiences with an account of our excellent weekend. We had a smallish budget so after researching various forums including Angus' blog decided to go to the King George flat rate club for Friday, A brothel for Sat and then Artemis for Sunday. This is what happened.

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Friday Night:

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We arrived at The King George for three pm realising that it was not open (we just wanted to ensure we could find it in daylight so as not to get lost and miss out on some much needed punting) To our surprise the door was open and a short scruffy man called Drago was in the entrance smoking a cigarette. We introduced ourselves and he showed us around the club. Our first impression was that it was smelly, grubby and quite dodgy looking. There were no girls to see but we decided against our better judgement to try the place out. We came back at 5pm, paid the 99 Euro entrance fee and made our way in. To our surprise we were the only people in the club bar a few OK looking girls and one attractive girl – from reading Angus' blog we realised that this was Petronella – we got our drinks and sat down followed by Petronella and another fairly attractive girl Roxanna.

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We chatted for a while, which was nice as there was no pressure to buy drinks everyone seemed calm and quite professional. After about 30 minutes of some good conversation Petronella asked me to go to the room with her, which again surprised me (I thought I would have to work a lot harder to get them in the room). Once in we both stripped and showered – the room was OK not immaculate but in line with the theécor of the rest of the club. Petronella is slim, attractive, tall with firm fake breasts, which were nice. She put the rubber on me with expertise using her mouth and started sucking me off quite vigorously which again was very enjoyable after about 10 mins she stopped and we took the mish position where upon after a further 10 mins I finished. This ladies and gentleman was my mongering virginity well and truly lost and in enjoyable style. I really enjoyed my session with Petronella she was attentive and seemed like she truly wanted to show me a good time and not just a quickie in and out. I vowed to have another session with her before the night was out.

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I sat back in the bar with my friend and relaxed drinking Jim Bean's and Cokes. The girls would get up and dance on the odd occasion but remain fully clothed apart from their bras. I was now stalking my next victim but to be honest apart from Petronella there were not many attractive girls present. A few would approach and chat but thankfully were not pushy in anyway and all seemed pleasant enough. My friend went off for a session with another girl that I liked as well. Whilst he was gone I got chatting to another Romanian girl who was OK but a little pushier about buying her a piccolo. I rebuffed this request but she was fine with this. She then suggested that we go for a threesome with her friend. Unfortunately her friend was a proper moose so I said that I would but only with the girl that my friend was with. On their return the four of us went to a room together (my friend is a bit of a voyeur as well so he watched whilst I opted to fuck both girls)

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To my disappointment the girl wouldn't let me shag her and instead I ended shagging the girl my friend had been shagging. Whilst doing her mish her friend decided to spank me, which then my friend did as well. So not only was I being watched I was getting a good spanking for my troubles. I soon stopped and got out of there as it was becoming more painful than enjoyable.

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We both went back to the bar and sat down for a good few alcoholic beverages and to discuss our experiences so far. After an hour or two we were starting to feel hazy from the booze but had opted to both experience Petronella together. Again she was ever obliging and was more than happy to take the both of us back. In short the girl blew us away she was great, again so attentive and willing to please. She didn't want anything in return but to just pleasure us both she was up for most things and allowed us to spit roast her amongst other postions. At the end of the session we tipped her well, which again she did not want to accept but did and we went on our merry men both having experienced an excellent evening for only 99Euros! Unbelievable value for money!

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Saturday Night:

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After Friday nights success we decided, as we were on a budget, to go back to the King George. This evening was as good as the last we shagged every girl in the club most were rubbish but experiences none the less. We asked Petronella for a repeat of yesterday and again she agreed with no hesitation. On this occasion I asked her if I could tie my friend up which she was pleased to do so we tied him up, laid him on his back whilst she rode him with vigour. She then turned around and rode him reverse cowgirl she looked up at me, laid back and put my cock in her as well as my friends. Please don't think we have needle dicks we are both averagely hung but Petronella took us in her stride and we both fucked her at the same time, in the same hole. All I can say is she is an incredible girl with many talents and I would recommend her to anyone.

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We settled down for more alcohol and ended the night with the best session of the two nights. Roxanna had spoken to my friend on the first night but we, on reflection, harshly dismissed her as she looked slightly older and not as confident as the other girls. She agreed to take us both into the room together – she immediately gave us both BBBJ, which was against the norm of the other girls. She was experienced and did a fantastic job of this we then had a mind-blowing session where we both fucked her hard in every position we could. Let me tell you that girl has stamina and is a hidden gem in the King George club. I ended up finishing myself off all over her belly. Roxanna was lovely we ended up tipping her but she didn't want to take it, we had to almost force the money in her hand and she felt shy about this, which is a shame as she is worth so much more.

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In summary of our two evenings at the King George we had a great time, the girls were lovely if not a bit mad at times, the atmosphere is relaxed if a bit dull as the place does smell a bit and is certainly seedy (I personally like this as it adds to the ambience of what we were there for). I couldn't get over how willing the girls were and how they wanted to just please we didn't feel rushed and would definitely recommend to anyone on a budget looking for a cheap night out.

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Sunday Night:

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After saving our money over the past two nights we both had a large budget for our trip to Artemis. We were both so excited as we had read so much good stuff about the place. Again as explained in Angus' blog and the ISG forum we paid our entry fee, got our lockers, had a shower and robed up ready for our Artemis experience. The place is huge and is like heaven on earth I don't think I have seen so many beautiful women in all my life and they were all naked! We walked around to have a look at what was on offer and the facilities, we decided to perch in the bar area and wait to see what talent came to us. A few girls approached us and were extremely beautiful and pleasant however they didn't really want to talk they just wanted to ply their trade, which is fine as that's what they were there to do. We decided to bide our time and see all of them before making a decision.

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After a few hours of chatting and looking I had pangs of disappointment, which were strange. All of the girls in my opinion were absolutely stunning with hardly any blemishes they were like models, there were also so many to choose from I didn't know where to start. I did see a few girls who I really wanted to session with but they were sitting around chatting to other girls and were not even trying to pull guys and TBH I didn't have the confidence to approach them and ask them for sex. I know there has been so much info on the girls in this forum but this is forgotten in the heat of the moment. I then saw a girl that I liked and she wasn't perfect. Her name was Evelina from Poland, you can't miss this girl as she has the widest ass in the place, which I like. I spoke to her for all of 2 minutes before going up to the room with me following her up the stairs with onlookers nudging each other thinking I must have been drunk.

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The session started off in a bad way when Evelina stated she needed to go to the toilet first (for me this is a bit of a turn off and ensured that she was getting no cunning lingus from me). Anyway after she finished in the loo she started sucking me off which was very toothy and actually quite sore. I stopped her and then laid on my back for her to ride me cowgirl, which she did well given her large frame after about ten mins I chose to do her from behind and finished off after a further ten minutes. TBH this was a really dull experience and very mechanical she was a pleasant girl but a waste of money. After this we spent a further 15 minutes at Artemis and then left with a pocket full of cash.

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On reflection of our weekend I certainly have learnt a bit about myself. I like the dirtier seedy side of mongering, never judge a book by its cover like I did with Roxanna and finally don't ever have a threesome with two Romanian girls! Maybe I have been harsh in my critiquing of Artemis and maybe we made a rookie mistake by emptying our tanks too prematurely after the previous two evenings.

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I was pleased about how lovely Petronella and Roxanna were at The King George, they certainly are the Jewels in the King's Crown and as much as they are slightly rough around the edges they offer an excellent experience for very little money. Some of the girls at Artemis I found to be rude including a girl that did not want to talk to us unless we were going to go to a room with her. Maybe it was my approach, maybe she really was too busy to talk but after paying my entry fee I left feeling out of pocket.

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[QUOTE=Greg173;1113863]My friend and I visited Berlin in early November. We just wanted to thank the people that added their experiences with an account of our excellent weekend. We had a smallish budget so after researching various forums including Angus' blog decided to go to the King George flat rate club for Friday, A brothel for Sat and then Artemis for Sunday. This is what happened.[/QUOTE]Hi G 173,

Excellent, entertaining and informative report here. Thanks for taking the time to document your adventures here on the forum. I find your conclusions interesting with respect to which venue you and your friend most obviously enjoyed. Perhaps the KG experience coloured your time at Artemis or perhaps you simply enjoy the sleaze aspect of a place like the KG. Whichever it is it was an interesting perspective.

Petronella was also my favorite at the KG. I found her to be a step above (way above) the rest of the crew on the night I was there. One wonders really what she is doing there as I am sure that she could work at a way finer bordello and make far better money. All I can guess is that she is comfortable with her Queen status at the club. In my opinion she is one of the top bargains in the city of Berlin.

Once again, many thanks for the report. I will post it in the RofD thread.

AM.

PS-Double Vag. penetration-this has to be a first, or at least very rare, service to receive. Especially at such a place as the KG. All I can say is good for you. Not many guys I think would have the stomach for that. You and your friend deserve a gold star for that.

Thankyou Angus for your positive response. KG was / is IMO a great club, of course made great by Petronella. It was interesting when we were there we noticed another gent waiting at the bar rebuffing all advances from other girls and was waiting for Petronella only. It seems she has a following. As far as the double vag entry penetration was concerned it was a shock to us both as we had not asked for this she offered, which I thought was an offer not to be missed. Another point I wanted to make was that both Petronella and Roxanne genuinly seemed like they just wanted to please and were not overly bothered about trying to hustle moremoney out of us.

We are now planning our 2011 expedition and would love to try more flat rate clubs. If you have any suggestions let me know.

Thanks again.

G

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1110859]Well any of the places regularly recommended here (RTFF) would provide this for you. At an apartment bordello you will not pay any entrance fee, just chose and get your service. If you do not want to fuck, just don't ask for a fuck. But you pay for time so do not expect to get a discount. There are massage places where you can get a hand job for less (usually a 10 min. Time limit) and some of these might offer french, but one never knows which or where. The massage parlours, if they offer it, do not advertise as such due to licensing considerations. That is, if they are licensed as a massage parlour they are not allowed by law to offer oral or sex.

Your other, cheaper and sleazier, option is a sex kino. Here you will pay entrance (usually 5-6 Euro) but will pay just for a CBJ, around 30 Euros. While the kino option sound cheaper I have experienced that the level of service is spotty. Ultimately I believe it more comfortable and pleasant to pay the higher cost and get better, nicer service. But maybe that is just my preference. For sex kino's again, RTFF. Specifically my report from a couple years back covering all options. I also have some info about this somewhere on my blog if you care to look.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62[/url]

Please remember to write a report what ever you decide.

AM[/QUOTE]Okay so I got a good time in Freudenhause for 40 euro, and for that price I could call her anything I wanted to. I found the place in another of your posts, thank you for the recommendation.

I would like to know if anyone in here knows where I could make sexy sexy with an arabian / turkish girl.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Mrfuckdick;1114263]I would like to know if anyone in here knows where I could make sexy sexy with an arabian / turkish girl.[/QUOTE]There are Turkish girls throughout Berlin. In the better bordellos they often do not say 'Turkish' rather 'Oriental'. Turkish is often considered a bit rough.

I would recommend you look here.

[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/melissa1.html[/url]

It is a small but reasonable (and inexpensive) bordello in NeuKoln).

AM

[QUOTE=Greg173;1114246]We are now planning our 2011 expedition and would love to try more flat rate clubs. If you have any suggestions let me know.[/QUOTE]Berlin is not really the place for the flatrate club. There is one other, Caligula, very close (15 min. Walk) from the KG. However, reports out of Caligula are almost universally bad, here and on other forums. The KG does seem to be able to motivate its' girls somehow. Guys report from Caligula that it is actually rather difficult to get a girl nto a room and when you get there the sex is totally lack luster. Have a look in the German partytreff section of the forum. If you like this style of club you might consider visiting some of the clubs in western Germany rather than Berlin.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/caligula-bordell-berlin.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1114402]There are Turkish girls throughout Berlin. In the better bordellos they often do not say 'Turkish' rather 'Oriental'. Turkish is often considered a bit rough.[/QUOTE]I think genuine homegrown German Turkish girls are actually a bit of a sought after rarity in Berlin, since they generally don't do it because of religious reasons. Sometimes they advertise girls as Turkish when in fact they are really from Bulgaria, Georgia, Tatarstan, etc.

I notice e. G. At Kamilla Dee that the nationalities of the girls are not mentioned, unless they happen to be German or from places like France, USA, Italy etc. I've never seen them explicity write that a girl is Ukrainian or Russian, they just indicate this indirectly by stating that the girl speaks good German or English, rather than having German as her mother tongue. Curious state of affairs.